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[digital spear]

Yurr

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/S7S_H/status/2027873903952162940/photo/1

DaVinci (@S7S_H)

#حرق_ون_بيس || #ONEPIECE1175

Nidhogg

X · Feb 28, 2026, 10:29 PM

[tawny kraken]

where's ratatoskr

[pine ridge]

luffy was hungry

[sudden dock]

@muted hedge the black dragon of the apocalypse is here

[muted hedge]

behind the horn

https://x.com/Jeriafterdark/status/2027883424862949818/photo/1

Jeri (@Jeriafterdark)

I... I see the vision
#onepiece #PokemonWindsWaves

X · Feb 28, 2026, 11:07 PM

scary how well it fits, lol

[maiden saffron]

So this was Vegapunk's failed recreation of nidhogg?

[digital spear]

Probably

Man ANOTHER Kaido and Loki similarity if that is true. Vegapunk did experiments on both

[prisma yacht]

He so ugly

[maiden saffron]

don't be mean

[prisma yacht]

Ok I'm sry

[digital spear]

https://tenor.com/view/toothless-dance-discord-toothless-dance-discord-how-to-train-your-dragon-gif-6290816749207650700

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/toothless-toothless-dragon-lizard-dance-dancing-gif-18147614732076936345

[tidal ice]

mango hater typing

[cosmic hamlet]

Vegapunk who made it possible for inanimate objects to eat zoan devil fruit.

However there is not a single inanimate object who ate a zoan df in egghead 🤨

[maiden saffron]

The zoan propaganda in modern one piece is crazy

a little funny how weak logias feel compared to paramecias and even zoans now lol

at this level

[grand flower]

Ofc

[grand flower]

He sold em

[grand flower]

Awakening will change that

We’ve gotten a few clues now that Logia Awakwnings are super destructive

Either through sheer scale or potency

[maiden saffron]

I just thought it was about lasting effects, like on punk hazard

i also feel like oda has showcased that he's not firm on the rules and limitations for awakenings

[grand flower]

I also think about Ace and Crocodile changing the weather on Alabasta and Drum

But also, the Admirals keep getting into situations where the story highlights that they can’t destroy the environment

I think that’s been Oda’s excuse to not show the logia awakwnings

Kizaru uproots a tree on Sabaody and they tell him to hold back. In Egghead he had to protect the labosphere

Marineford is Marineford

Marijoa is Marijoa

But when the Admirals cut loose, we get punk hazard

Idk if it’s a coincidence

[maiden saffron]

I'm thinking they can do something like detach the produced elements from their body so it can't be targeted by haki

I think beyond pure destruction they would need something like that to truly be powerful

Because destruction is something the admirals can cause already, even without awakening, if the story allows it

There isn't anything preventing them from doing it as they are

[sudden dock]

Seriously I can imagine the angry look on imu when he'll punish sommers

[tawny panther]

who you think will be the first awakened Logia we see

Teach ?
Akainu ?
Sabo ?

someone else

[maiden saffron]

Akainu

sabo is too early for now

[warm sierra]

I dont even think Sommers is leaving Elbaf

[sudden dock]

Seriously he's so careless that he'll end up a skeleton like saturn

[tawny kraken]

[tough igloo]

i think we’ll see the awakened yami yami before the others but i lowkey don’t think the yami yami remains a logia , so i’ll go with sabo

or Dragon if he’s a logia

[prisma yacht]

Smoker is also a good choice

[sudden dock]

Say what happened to those marines who saw saturn death

were they forced into silence

[prisma yacht]

Yami Yami will be awakened on screen

[tawny kraken]

oh my, yes, oda do it, PLEASE

[tawny panther]

yeah i can see smoker if Oda stops treating him like a punching bag like he did in punk hazard

since smoker was the first logia we saw in the story

[prisma yacht]

Yeah he needs a powerup and this might be it

[grand flower]

I see what you mean

Raw power can seem kinda flat for how much it’s been built up

[floral dome]

no

[grand flower]

But if it’s powerful enough that can sometimes be enough

[grand flower]

100% Smoker

[grand flower]

I thought it would have been making clones

Like imbuing your sapience into your element

Now you gotta fight two Akainus or two Kuzans

[tawny panther]

I hope so, Smoker needs a big comeback after we last saw him and it’s been so long since then so everybody got so much stronger since then

[tawny kraken]

last time we saw him was him transporting something, right?

with his water biker or whatever

[tawny panther]

everry very strong person now in the final saga has either a awakened DF or ACOC .. Smoker can’t come back without either one

[grand flower]

Smoker been getting beefy

[grand flower]

His billow bike yeah

He had a box attached

[final trench]

Awakened smoker

[graceful belfry]

I wonder if Smoker has ever sent his smoke into someone’s lungs until they suffocate from inhalation

Has he ever maybe triggered lung cancer in someone

[tawny kraken]

jfc calm down satan

[graceful belfry]

What about smoke in the eyes? Seems like it’d be effective

[graceful belfry]

I’d use his fruit better than him for sure

[prisma yacht]

Smoke in the eyes?

that sounds painful

[tawny kraken]

yo I actually happen to know why, it's acrolein (at least in german), a highly reactive substance that is creating by fire (incomplete combustion)

it's like acid and melts your eyes away

fun stuff

[prisma yacht]

Ah

fun stuff

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-angry-cat-funny-cat-memes-gif-14595486679217135725

[dense haven]

yall liked the chapter?

[tawny kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-meme-spongebob-pray-praying-gif-12211607851496084120

[unique lagoon]

https://klipy.com/gifs/bad-movies-rule-dragonheart-movie-2

[pseudo gulch]

A couple of dialogues felt fanwritten

Apart from that I enjoyed it, I love Loki's full zoan form

Did you like it?

[digital spear]

I wrote them

[tawny panther]

Oda also needs to make smoke as a logia seem more powerful cause as of now Smoker logia is viewed one of/if not the weakest logia DF

[unique lagoon]

which dialog

[final trench]

True

[final trench]

Always

Dragon loki form too tuff

His hybrid form bouta be peak

[muted hedge]

i love the ears he has on his full zoan form

[final trench]

I didnt even notice them im ngl

Also why he eating marcus mars

[cosmic hamlet]

I don't care what others think but these dream creatures are just lame concept 🫩

[final trench]

Lore purposes

[muted hedge]

he likes chicken

[cosmic hamlet]

Its not that I don't care what they are, I just don't care about the fight against these dream creatures

[final trench]

I feel dat

Imu’s probably gonna tell killingham to call em off anyway

[muted hedge]

speaking of Kilingham, wonder if we'll see him next chapter

reacting to Loki slaughtering all of his sleeptids

[prisma yacht]

Well there's no fight that happened here

loki just massacred the nightmares

more of an execution

[cosmic hamlet]

I'm sure we will just get so many panels with them still and i will continue to don't care

[prisma yacht]

The nightmares are dead for now

[candid slate]

My friend was saying Loki will have to die cause he doesn’t leave much room for others to fight ofc I disagree with that

[cosmic hamlet]

All of them?

[prisma yacht]

Unless you mean killy makes more of them

yeah mostly

[cosmic hamlet]

Tell your friend to come here and say that 👀

[muted hedge]

Kilingham doesn't even need to make more, as they just keep coming lol

[prisma yacht]

they don't?

[cosmic hamlet]

Where does it say that all of them are dead?

[prisma yacht]

Just check the panel

[candid slate]

What do u think

[scenic tinsel]

Shanks is stronger than loki

[candid slate]

She also said if that happens usopp will get ragnir

[scenic tinsel]

Now let that sink

[prisma yacht]

in elbaf? Yes there's a high chance he will get dr'd

[cosmic hamlet]

Show me

[prisma yacht]

W friend

[muted hedge]

remember?

[prisma yacht]

Fk off

[cosmic hamlet]

Loki won't die

[cosmic hamlet]

No

[cosmic hamlet]

So it didn't happen in manga, you just made it up

[prisma yacht]

They're awake now so yeah there were only a finite number of them

[muted hedge]

that's never been said though

[candid slate]

Yeah I hope so too I would hate if usopp gets ragnir without him earning it

[prisma yacht]

It did , I just don't want to show u

[cosmic hamlet]

Sureeeee

[cosmic hamlet]

He ain't getting it, don't worry

[prisma yacht]

You can literally see almost every monster getting annihilated by that thor beam or whatever

[muted hedge]

here's the full page

[candid slate]

Loki is kinda overpowered rn I wonder what holy knights will do

[cosmic hamlet]

Not all

[prisma yacht]

what's "earning it" according to you? overpowering ragnir?

[cosmic hamlet]

Just few

[grand flower]

Get washed

[prisma yacht]

I said almost

[cosmic hamlet]

So all of them are not dead?

[grand flower]

Killingham is just gonna revive them

I think next chapter he’ll do that and theyll target him

[candid slate]

I would imagine something on lines of zoro’s “nothing happened”

[prisma yacht]

Ye

[grand flower]

I wonder if Imu will Reversi Loki and then return the knights to Marijoa

[prisma yacht]

[candid slate]

I just want him to be brave tbh

[hexed ridge]

what do you think about Zoro fighting Killingham, but Killingham brings out a nightmare version of Mihawk?

[digital spear]

Maybe but wouldnt Loki need to die then

[grand flower]

Nah theyll figure out how to break it without harming allies

[cold steppe]

Shu is more accurate

[grand flower]

Killingham doesnt bring out automatic fears or anything

[digital spear]

Nightmare Kuina

[grand flower]

You have to be actively thinking about it

Zoro woulf have to be thinking about nightmare Mihawk for some reason

If anything Zoro will have death on his mind

[candid slate]

Tides will turn probably next chapter

[grand flower]

That’s more likely to get manifested

[prisma yacht]

Why wld he need to die

[hexed ridge]

True, but what if in the middle of the fight Killingham asks Zoro "what is it you're most afraid of?" and Zoro tries not to think of anything but he accidently thinks of Mihawk

[grand flower]

So far Harald and rocks both died

They have to find a new method

[hot cairn]

not before meeting Luffy

[prisma yacht]

Both different cases

[hot cairn]

[grand flower]

You better pray

[digital spear]

but Loki would be one of those cases

[grand flower]

What?

[prisma yacht]

[digital spear]

He means Rocks was Domi Reversi and Harald was Holy Knight

[candid slate]

Also what use a sniper will have of hammer anyway, be his bodyguard?

[grand flower]

Either way

There’s a need rn to figure out a new way to break the curse

[hexed ridge]

Nah, I can see Loki and Luffy teaming up against Imu/Gunko. Plus I am almost 100% sure Imu/Gunko demolished Brook, which will make Luffy angry and want to fight Imu

[grand flower]

They can’t rely on Haki

That would just maim or kill their allies

[cold steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/babe-babe-one-piece-one-piece-mr-4-mr-4-one-piece-gif-6870527688111956544

[grand flower]

This isn’t a valid argument tbh

Usopp has already used a hammer

[hexed ridge]

I miss when Usopp was the goat in pre timeskip

[candid slate]

I mean ragnir can protect usopp if someone comes close to him

[muted hedge]

i don't know if Ragnir would view Usopp as worthy

[candid slate]

Yea I’m just saying if he gets it

[digital spear]

Usopp will feed it nuts

[prisma yacht]

Yea

[cosmic hamlet]

Its a losing cause 🧐

Loki and ragnir are not seperating

[prisma yacht]

I think the Nika vs god of war is a mythical tale and not an actual incident

[grand flower]

Usopp has that dawg in him

[final trench]

Exactly

[grand flower]

Usopp highkey has the same dawg as the monster trio

[cosmic hamlet]

Especially after we found out about the history between squirrel and god of war

[final trench]

Usopp got a whole garden as soon as ragnir got revealed to be a squirrel ik it was over

[grand flower]

Him telling the samurai “I’m gonna do everything I can to fight off dying” is exactly what Luffy, Sanji and Zoro are all about

[graceful belfry]

What’s the theory for how Usopp picks up the hammer or did I miss the reveal that it can alter its size?

[grand flower]

He just said it in a goofy way

[rich hornet]

Ragnir waits 1000 years for someone like his master to return, master gets caught for another 6 years but as soon as he’s free he dips to go hang with some skinny kid. Makes sense to me

[prisma yacht]

meaning it doesn't mean ragnir is hella old it's origin cld still be from the void century itself

[hexed ridge]

NGL it sucks that Egghead was gonna be Franky's arc, Franky does jackcrap

Elbaf was gonna be Usopp's arc, Usopp does Jackcrap

[grand flower]

The hammer will move itself and usopp will pretend he’s doing it

[graceful belfry]

Good enough for me

[grand flower]

Cmon dawg

[prisma yacht]

Usopp has that dawg in him

[grand flower]

I got vision

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-the-boys-gen-v-no-homelander-no-gif-5144619848989128837

Elbaf aint over, so it aint over for usopp

[grand flower]

Egghead was never “supposed” to be Franky’s arc

Unlike Elbaph we never knew egghead was coming

Egghead was set up for franky

[final trench]

All roads lead to the sniper god

[hexed ridge]

Okay but I WISH Franky got something out of it

[grand flower]

He’s very obviously gonna perfect thr mother flame research

Franky is gonna figure out the ancient fuel

Also

When they saw the Vegaforce the first thing they said was, it’s bigger than the battle franky

[final trench]

Lilith is with these niggas anyway franky pulling through

[cosmic hamlet]

😂😂😂😂😂 please say this to usopp fans

[digital spear]

Yeah we learned Egghead existed 1 chapter before the Egghead arc started

[grand flower]

Obviously franky is gonna surpass the Vegaforce

[hexed ridge]

I just hope after elbaf the SH's get some form of training, cause if Elbaf is meant to be the thriller bark parallel, I hope it makes the rest of teh crew realise they need to get stronger .

[candid slate]

Usopp hasn’t done anything in elbaf people said he would do

[digital spear]

The only problem was Franky and Vegapunk ignored each other mostly

[grand flower]

You think Elbaph is the TB parallel? Interesting

[digital spear]

But Vegapunk is still around so

[grand flower]

Remember that we had an entire night skipped

After Wano, we got flashbacks of convos we didn’t see

[digital spear]

Well yeah if they talked during that time we shouldnt have skipped that

I hope we see it

[grand flower]

When franky does something Oda is gonna flashback to him talking to VP

Just like he showed us chopper and Caesar talking about his drugs

Oda doesnt show us stuff like that because it frees him to do whatever later

[hexed ridge]

Both arcs hava a brook focus, giant island, ancient giant introduction, people getting possessed and their humanity taken away, bodily control. Plus both arcs had the rocks crew as zombies and the rocks crew in a flash back.

[grand flower]

He can have an idea for Franky and freestyle any convo he wants to justify it

[digital spear]

Caesar being Choppers Rayleigh was one of the funniest moments ever

[prisma yacht]

Also bcs of the adams tree elbaf was more important to franky than egghead arc

[grand flower]

I wanna know why they were even talking lmao

[final trench]

🤔

[digital spear]

Chopper hanging around with a child experimentor

[final trench]

You think thriller bark is an elbaf parallel and you dont have faith in usopp?

Crazy times

[hexed ridge]

I remember when people were like "ceaser for strawhat" and it was like "my brother in christ, the man experimented on kids and tried to kill people"

[graceful belfry]

Thriller Bark is a lot better than people give it credit for

[digital spear]

Well this would mean its Brooks arc actually

[hexed ridge]

it was a good arc, people had issues with it?

[prisma yacht]

What's ur problem mellow

[grand flower]

Elbaph also comes after the Water 7 mirror arc in Egghead

Elbaph and TB also both have very obvious genre themes, Elbaph being Phable backwards with a fantasy aesthetic

We also learned about Kozuki Moriah this arc

[prisma yacht]

with usopp wielding ragnir

[cold steppe]

I think the reason is simple. It's because people are expecting it

[candid slate]

I don’t have problem with it but i think he has to earn it current usopp is just not it

[maiden charm]

@prisma yacht

[prisma yacht]

Ragnir shld earn usopp 😤

[digital spear]

Yummyyy

[digital spear]

SO GLUE

Stupid rodent

[maiden charm]

https://tenor.com/view/hamster-tussiniiduk32-gif-27701794

[prisma yacht]

Omg so many little catolotls

[hexed ridge]

Oh I keep forgetting Elbaph has a PH at the end....I guess it's meant to make it more unique cause Elbaph sounds like Fable backwards

[digital spear]

Oda cant decide either

[hexed ridge]

He should just stick with Elbaf, plus the f makes it sounds more fierce

[graceful belfry]

People don’t dislike it, but it’s definitely not as well regarded as the two arcs it’s sandwiched between, for instance. It’s mostly a Moria thing, though. But even Moria has become a lot more popular in recent times lol. So maybe it’s not as slept on as I think. Anyways, there’s just a lot within TB that connects to various different points in the story

[tawny kraken]

ph D

[digital spear]

House md

[digital spear]

I always believed in Woria

[graceful belfry]

Moria Kozuki still sounds surreal

[digital spear]

I hope he can read the glyphs

[prisma yacht]

So cg can have their own glyph reader

[graceful belfry]

Me too. It’d be funny

[digital spear]

And its something irrelevant to him like he just learned it from the Kozuki and when Cross Guild reacts to that theyre like WHAAAAAT

[prisma yacht]

yay

[dense pike]

same

[cosmic hamlet]

Honorary

[tawny kraken]

jinbe should betray luffy and join cg

[digital spear]

So glue

[graceful belfry]

I’ve gotta tap back in tbh. Even if he’s just honorary, though, it’s still cool. And he could still know how to decipher poneglyphs (depending on the timeline?)

[grand flower]

I think as time goes on people stop thinking of arcs individually and more like as part of the bigger story as more and more lore comes out

It’s kinda like how people started being kinder to Skypeia after G5 brought back imagery from that arc and the sun god stuff

[tawny kraken]

"so plants are weak against fire" - jinbe

[digital spear]

Bro is the thinker

[grand flower]

People think of Moria less like

“The underwhelming villain of TB”

And more as the guy who fought Kaido and escaped Mf and is Perona’s father and pulled up to Hachinosu

Etc etc

[cosmic hamlet]

He was said to be born outside of wano somewhere, I don't know how he would know how to decipher poneglyph unless someone from wano who can read poneglyph escaped wano and taught moria

[potent pier]

Reminder that the one piece wiki still fails to aknolodge that Moria is a Kozuki

Even though all of the context clues fits.

[prisma yacht]

West blue

And ur wrong

[potent pier]

Okay I think the next SBS is going to probably say yes

[glacial bear]

Gecko Moria two blade style

[prisma yacht]

with the timeline

[digital spear]

Annoying how people are like "Skypiea makes sense NOW, its clear NOW what the point of this arc was, Skypieas ONLY purpose was to foreshadow the endgame"

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/gecko-moria-scissors-sword-scissor-sword-anything-goes-gif-19985124

[final trench]

Facts

Cg going to wano and see moria there

[digital spear]

Aura

[grand flower]

lol yeah it’s crazy the arc didn’t change at all Skypeia was always dope

[graceful belfry]

He’s genuinely a good character tbh. Pulling up for Absalom, as scummy as he is, really endeared me to Moria’s character considering what Kaido put him through

[rose rune]

True. Skypeia never made any sense, and it will never do

[final trench]

And facts moria stepped for his 2nd home

https://tenor.com/view/gecko-moria-kaido-kaidou-gif-3307991764237697606

[grand flower]

55 years ago a group left Wano

10 of them formed Shimotsuki

15 of them kept traveling

[grand flower]

And he did it completely alone

[digital spear]

[prisma yacht]

Fk absalom

[cosmic hamlet]

Rule 1: I'm always right

[final trench]

They didnt even know the goat could lose

[cosmic hamlet]

Is this in manga?

[digital spear]

[prisma yacht]

Weren't we supposed to be getting a sbs this weekend?

[graceful belfry]

Yeah, someone would have had to teach him is what I meant. There’s a clear link there, though. Otherwise Oda wouldn’t have put it into the story imo. Like I don’t think the Kozuki thing is just for flavoring

[final trench]

👀

[cosmic hamlet]

How would they know moria is kozuki though?

[final trench]

He would tell them

Moria got ties fr

[prisma yacht]

[final trench]

Then alvida will slip his fat off

Prime moria

[graceful belfry]

Jaya and Skypiea are genuine masterpieces even outside of their relevance to the grander story. That’s the peak of Oda’s visual storytelling to me

[final trench]

Then they steer near impel down and doffy hops on the ship

[graceful belfry]

How would who know? The person who taught Moria? It’d have to be a Kozuki link since they’re the ones who made the Glyphs. It doesn’t have to be direct to Moria, as far as I understand. He could be a descendant of someone who was connected to a Kozuki clan member

Someone who’s more up to speed on One Piece could probably come up with a better answer. I’ve not really been keeping up too much or thinking about the story since the end of the flashback tbh

But I promise I’ll be rereading the manga sometime this year lol

[cosmic hamlet]

I meant the people of wano, they wrote kozuki moria in the grave right?

[cosmic hamlet]

Nah, just read new content

[graceful belfry]

So you’re suggesting that he only got the Kozuki name after being defeated by Kaido and “buried?”

[cosmic hamlet]

They gave him a honorary title maybe thinking he fought for wano with kaido?

Tbh we didn't get full details on how moria invaded wano. Its not easy to bring an army to wano without inside help

[digital spear]

I dont think theyd just call him Kozuki then I think he would be raised by Kozuki to some extent

[stone terrace]

Scammed lordship

[digital spear]

Except if he lied to them that he was a Kozuki but how would he know then

[stone terrace]

[graceful belfry]

LOL wait

[cosmic hamlet]

If i have to be honest, there are lot of contradictions in both sides. I think we just need more details regarding moria vs kaido

[cosmic hamlet]

Lol, so he lied that he is kozuki to enter wano with an army saying he came to fight kaido as a kozuki?

😂

[digital spear]

Yeah but that would be random

If he didnt know about Wano before

[tawny kraken]

moria is to wano as usopp was to tontatta

[cosmic hamlet]

I still think the mystery lies in that battle

[hot cairn]

This is how I view OP arcs, they’re just smaller pieces of a big puzzle, that’s why binging arcs is a different feeling than reading it weekly

[cosmic hamlet]

Moria is a human right?

[heady smelt]

Hilarious but most probably accurate

[tawny kraken]

[digital spear]

If there is a god then Kaido and Moria are both Oni

[cosmic hamlet]

His body is weird for a human, he must be a very old kozuki clan member who fought with kurozumi to overthrow them and he was believed to be dead but is alive

[maiden saffron]

so many arsal alts here

[cosmic hamlet]

You are also one

[maiden saffron]

im the original

[tawny kraken]

I am alpharius

[cosmic hamlet]

👀

[tawny kraken]

"hmmm what would be a good gift for a 4 year old... wait I know!" ahh

[cosmic hamlet]

Sbs is written by oda, oda is not reliable so its filler

[grand flower]

I see

[maiden saffron]

who is this oda guy

and why do we care what he thinks anyway?

[prisma yacht]

some con artist

[tawny kraken]

oda is the friends we made along the way

[digital spear]

Ados father

[maiden saffron]

he's so tuff

[digital spear]

Hes so MAD

Angry ass squirrel 😭

[tawny kraken]

ratatoskr with og god of war and og nika: >:(

ratatoskr with loki nd luffy

[hexed ridge]

Yaknow, a lot of Nika's depictions seems to involve a blade and a shield

[maiden saffron]

possibly cause the myth originates from elbaf where the warriors always wield a similar sword and shield

[cosmic hamlet]

Man this is so cute 😂😂

[unique lagoon]

oda silhouette tech really is evolving

[hexed ridge]

I might be wrong

but was Nika said to also be a war god?

well a god of destructions

I like to think BOTH legends are true?

Nika was destructive but that destruction also came with Liberations

[unique lagoon]

heres the dialog

[cosmic hamlet]

We will get official in 15mins

[unique lagoon]

before i was saying the nika shows up during a time of great change in the current age
now im taking that as nika is just the mediator between these big figures to balance it out

[tawny kraken]

to this day I could swear I read that nika was originally created to "free the slaves" in the "deep mines" by killing them. must have been some translation error or something, I've been searching for that since forever but cannot find a single clue

[hexed ridge]

My guess is that in the ancient times before the void centurt, maybe powers and abilities existed before the concept of devil fruits existed

when devil fruits came about, that's when those lost powers and legends got brought back

[tawny kraken]

my theory is still that zoans are prisons

awfully convinient that all the gods are fruits

that can just be locked away for eternity

[unique lagoon]

and im starting to think this is not the nika user at all

nika was suppose to make these 2 people meet

[hexed ridge]

so Nika, the Giant who can becoke Nidhog, Ratatoskr, all of them WERE god like beings, but Ratatoskr was the first "zoan" to enhabit an object.

THEN either by magic or science, devil fruits came to exist, and that lead to the fruits recreating the lost legends.

[grand flower]

Bet I might as well wait

[unique lagoon]

there is something wrong with all the iteration of the nika failing twice tho

maybe thats on purpose being the underdog

so right now my best bet is its Poseidon and Nidghogg meeting but never did

[dense rapids]

Time to realize those aren’t silhouetted

Like how Imu isn’t a silhouette

[unique lagoon]

why would you like that aint that boring af
a design with no detail

[dense rapids]

We don’t even have the explanation of why

So there’s no reason for me to judge it yet

[unique lagoon]

ofc we dont cuz odas dumbass aint revealing it
hes just giggling with his new teasing tech

[dense rapids]

How is it teasing when it’s just how they look?

[unique lagoon]

how do you know that

man that would be straight up ass if all the versions of imu we have seen is just a black blob
its funny as a meme but holy

[dense rapids]

They literally call Imu a black monster on god valley?

[digital spear]

Lily = dead
Lilys brother = King of Alabasta
Lilys brothers descendants = Cobra and Vivi
Lilys descendant = Buggy

[unique lagoon]

sorry if i missed that
please post the panel

or if anyone can confirm this

[tawny kraken]

it's true

[unique lagoon]

man mfs fighting lava lamps now

atleast theres still hope for the main body in the castle

[digital spear]

Whats left of Imu is a black blob that can switch between bodies maybe

[dense rapids]

^

[unique lagoon]

like the real body?

sitting on the throne ?

[dense rapids]

I don’t think we will see his true appearance till laugh tale

Or if someone negates his power

(Blackbeard)

[digital spear]

I hope earlier

[dense rapids]

If Luffy isn’t able to damage him like rocks

Then Blackbeard is probably his weakness

Like the rubber lightning thing in Skypeia

But it’s Blackbeard and Imu this time

[tawny kraken]

all time classic

[unique lagoon]

reminds me of toei version of imus hand

well close enough i guess

[digital spear]

Imu looks so much like a princess there

Like a bride

[unique lagoon]

cuz he is

[dense rapids]

Man in a woman’s body

I don’t think it’s lily’s body tho

[digital spear]

maybe Liliys?

FUCK

[dense rapids]

She escaped

[digital spear]

and brithed Buggy

[unique lagoon]

that would be extra fuck up
if real imu did fell in love with lili
but for some reason took her body for his own has a vessel

[dense rapids]

I want Davy buggy

[digital spear]

I mean Buggy sr. sr. sr. sr. sr.

[digital spear]

Joy Buggy better

[grand flower]

https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/s/yQk8hWavMo

Nature is healing

[unique lagoon]

or the imu invankov was talking about is already dead
and was taken over

[dense rapids]

Half the fan base knows this now

It’s just rage baiters who keep saying the WG is stupid

[unique lagoon]

what are the chances Imu IS Uranus ancient weapon

went sentient somehow

[pine scaffold]

How does everyone feel about Loki's design

after we got better angles this chapter

[unique lagoon]

cool but could have been better

[pine scaffold]

I think its much better looking this time

[muted hedge]

10/10

[pine scaffold]

The angles last chapter weren't the best

[forest pumice]

Maybe it's a technicality. Moria needed strong shadows for stronger zombies. So, maybe IMU needs a weak will for a better control.

[unique lagoon]

comparing the design with kaidos dragon and punk hazard dragon

[pine scaffold]

I couldn't tell wtf was going on lol

[pine scaffold]

Yeah, Kaido clears design wise

thats not a debate

[unique lagoon]

then again im a sucker for detailed art

the cool thing about this dragon is its extra edgy and gigantic

[unique lagoon]

now post the punk hazard one

[tawny kraken]

it's pretty goofy actually

[unique lagoon]

i can cope that oda still has a better drawing

his skin dont look like scales at all
more like a shiny black lizard

[pine scaffold]

We won't see much of this dragon

[digital spear]

not really

[pine scaffold]

Loki will go hybrid

[digital spear]

like not more than other dragons

[pine scaffold]

I'm very curious on how his hybrid looks

[distant vine]

"If you're here then at least this place is safe"

[tawny kraken]

it is, it's more goofy than edgy anyway

[unique lagoon]

very slick skin

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/iamosix2/status/2027793705290125773/photo/1

OSIX /COOMS OPEN! (@iamosix2)

Nidhogg and nika ...

#ONEPIECE1175 || #حرق_ون_بيس

X · Feb 28, 2026, 5:11 PM

[unique lagoon]

literally the black dragon in that aniamted movie

[digital spear]

fiery eyes and black teeth are very edgy

[tawny kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/skyrim-margin-awake-marginskyrim-gif-20155428

[unique lagoon]

nvm this thing has scales

[distant vine]

Its frying me how Sommners really stood there and focused on the half dead parents while Luffy, Zoro and Loki are nearby

😭

[tawny kraken]

in principle yes, but in this execution, no

[final trench]

Oh no bro

That shit was hell

[digital spear]

I dont see it

[tawny kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout4-gif-5924860

[unique lagoon]

maybe this was foreshadowing how little detail the loki dragon will have

[final trench]

Nidhoggr

[digital spear]

This
Child

[unique lagoon]

i mean the skin

[distant vine]

W chapter

[muted hedge]

i mean obviously Loki has a lot of details, we just don't see it since he is fucking massive

[distant vine]

Luffy and Zoro fighting together is always cool

[tawny kraken]

toei sweating so hard rn

bet they're extra glad they switched to 6 month schedule

[distant vine]

Robin was gonna be freed anyways so Oda lowkey gave Sanji a fake win

Whatever tho

[unique lagoon]

i think one guy was right
either oda forgot the upgraded dream monsters
or hes reserving them for later

or cope that brook distracted the spell

[digital spear]

I think he forgor

[unique lagoon]

or messed with it

[digital spear]

Not like something would change

Just a bit stronger

[tawny kraken]

[unique lagoon]

that dragon looks extra bad ass tho

[tawny kraken]

but yeah what about brook anyway

2 chapters without him now

[unique lagoon]

forgot killin said this

[tawny kraken]

I mean I'm not getting worried, even if he got pulped, throw a bottle of milk at him and he'll be fine

[unique lagoon]

wait no thats imu?

[tawny kraken]

which chapter is that?

[unique lagoon]

1150

you know maybe those dream monsters just went between dorry and broggy and got converted automatically

[tawny kraken]

uhhhh I don't see the panel, only this, that's the closest one

u sure it's 1150?

[digital spear]

It is at the end

[digital spear]

Here

[tawny kraken]

oh, that was well hidden

[unique lagoon]

imu is talking so i guess its just imu saying it
fits with imu ordering em to kill jarul

[elder umbra]

Hi there chat

[tawny kraken]

yeah then it was imu I guess, but about the giants, not the mma (if that even was the question I cant remember)

[unique lagoon]

also this part just telling me destroying elbaf is an option

so yeah im expecting the imu ship will visit elbaf

[dense haven]

elbaf will fail

[digital spear]

Imu ship?

[warm sierra]

Uranus Ig

[unique lagoon]

you know the imu ship with lasers

lulusia

[dawn gazelle]

Sbs when?

[final trench]

Bro might be morj

[warm sierra]

we have no indication they can use the weapon rn

[muted hedge]

i don't think that's Uranus

[unique lagoon]

yep

[muted hedge]

i think that it's something else

[unique lagoon]

im slowly thinking it might not be uranus

could be just another Pluton since they can make more of those

[muted hedge]

an imitation of Joyboy's power

[unique lagoon]

or parts of pluton

maybe the took the weapons of pluton only and put it on a cloud island

it was casting a massive shadow also

[dense haven]

pluton the god of the underworld is a flying ship

that sounds about right

[alpine trench]

Time to read chop

[dense haven]

I guess uranus lives underground because why not

[alpine trench]

Haven’t been spoiled on anything this week

[unique lagoon]

maybe just maybe they using an emperor cloud to move around

[alpine trench]

Luckily

[muted hedge]

hmm, reminds me a bit of what was said in this latest chapter

[unique lagoon]

getting kinda too coincidental

[digital spear]

wait this is a good find. Emperor Cloud that blocks out the sun and exists for thousands of years...

[warm sierra]

Loki

[muted hedge]

Loki's dragon form being pitch black, massive and blotting out the sun

[unique lagoon]

reminder lulusia attack happened during the night ye?

well no that thing is being powered by motherflame

surely its not a dragon

[muted hedge]

at least not an organic one

maybe an imitation, made

[unique lagoon]

we doing mecha godzilla now?

[muted hedge]

i wouldn't be surprised

[unique lagoon]

sure maybe
since tech was advance back then

[digital spear]

Its either Uranus or a fake Uranus like there was gonna be a fake Pluton

[unique lagoon]

but dint VP said its prob an ancient weapon that did it?
so we saying uranus ia mecha dragon?

i dont know man

[muted hedge]

i don't think it's Uranus that's the thing

i think that Nidhogg is Uranus and Imu is imitating the powers of it

by this construct in the sky, powered by the mother flame

[unique lagoon]

with the weapons of pluton

im seriously pushing the idea that its just a flying pluton

also its specifically stated that the emeperor cloud IS a cloud

[muted hedge]

i don't think it's Pluton either though

the emperor cloud callback would be interesting though

[vernal ravine]

if nidhogg is already related to a god i don' t see him as an ancient weapon

what imu has is uranus 90 % but maybe oda can surprise us

[muted hedge]

why not?

[vernal ravine]

too much for only one power

[wraith mantle]

A dragon being the sky ancient weapon makes sense

[muted hedge]

the god of war techinically being Uranus back then, would make a lot of sense for why they could hold their ground against Nika

[unique lagoon]

remind me was it some form of emperor cloud thats under skypeia
reason it can support all that infrastructure?

theres 3 layers iirc

[muted hedge]

i'd have to reread Skypiea, i don't remember

[vernal ravine]

also i think ancient weapons were created in ancient kingdom and the nidhogg powers are from the first world

[muted hedge]

there's the imperial culumus i guess

the fossilized cloud

[unique lagoon]

too lazy to find the panel so ill take AI search for now

the whole white sea and white white sea still confuse me sometimes

[golden valley]

Its all within the emperor cloud

[digital spear]

The emperor chud

[unique lagoon]

but if emeperor cloud covers the sun then why is there sunlight in jaya

is the emperor cloud the reason why its so dark in that area where brook got lost

[muted hedge]

we still don't know what this is, do we?

[thin quest]

that was the Florian Triangle which is slightly different I think

[unique lagoon]

was it just the mist covering the sun

[thin quest]

I think so

[unique lagoon]

yeah that works i guess
says there also the emeperor cloud also moves around = skypeia also moves

?

[spice python]

Fujitora maybe?

[unique lagoon]

fuji or shiki

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/oval_1ce/status/2028111910395404544/photo/1

awfull eyes | COMMS OPEN (@oval_1ce)

alliance of the Gods #ONEPIECE1175

X · Mar 1, 2026, 2:15 PM

[lofty fern]

I like thorheim, and Imu sounds a bit more insidious here rather than enraged

[unique lagoon]

shiki had floating island base in the movie strong world

[balmy lava]

on the mural, do you guys think the dragon is fighting the serpent, or are they teaming up to attack?

[muted hedge]

i don't think it's Fujitora or Shiki

[unique lagoon]

looks like it

[muted hedge]

i mean why would they be bothered with Capone Gang Bege?

[unique lagoon]

ive seen that convo here before when mural was first shown
people debating if the dragon and serpert are fighting
who is breathing fire
or if the arc maxxim is involved

[muted hedge]

Imu definitely seems more determined rather than afraid

[lofty fern]

I've thought teaming up during the first world

[lofty fern]

I don't think he's afraid at all

[muted hedge]

i think that Imu will domi reversi Loki, ultimately repeating history with the god of war against the sun god

[spice python]

2 years ago he was one of the supernova, and as a new admiral recruit maybe you want to start out impressing the fleet admiral by catching him? It's a reach idk

[muted hedge]

same

[wraith mantle]

I want to know more about the previous nika

[craggy vapor]

the wait is over y’all. New chapter dropped.

[muted hedge]

i don't think Fujitora is on the mood to impress Sakazuki, lol

[wraith mantle]

Did he have the same personality as luffy?

[unique lagoon]

oda set up imu to be this big baddy
then he better have something to deal with nika and nidgogg
simple domi maybe

[lofty fern]

He's been just floating there watching. He was more angry with Brook than he was Luffy or Loki

[spice python]

I mean this is during the timeskip, they probably didn't start out the way things ended up imo

[lofty fern]

It's been out for half an hour lol

[muted hedge]

maybe we'll get to see the giant demonic form on the mural come into play

https://klipy.com/gifs/one-piece-imu-the-king-of-the-empty-throne-one-piece-imu-vs-sabo

[unique lagoon]

i wont mind loki dragon getting domid tbh
reliving the nika vs god of war duel

more history repeating itself stuff

[muted hedge]

feels like that would be the most natural

especially with this build up on them fighting years ago

but this time Loki will successfully be rescued by the sun god

[unique lagoon]

i also think nika and GoW fight was somekind of rivalry
not actually hating each other

[muted hedge]

yeah, similair to Roger and Whitebeard

[unique lagoon]

yep or shanks and mihawk

[muted hedge]

yeah though we've got so little of that

[unique lagoon]

giants love waring so i guess thats just their culture back then

beat up each other and laugh it off after

[muted hedge]

yeah

[unique lagoon]

constantly fighting means their haki gets stronger also

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/moosgiwara/status/2028132209903702166/photo/1

Moose (@moosgiwara)

Warrior Gods #ONEPIECE1175

X · Mar 1, 2026, 3:36 PM

[tawny kraken]

wasn't there a lil checkov's gun when they freed loki?

like zoro said "he might go crazy" or smth

and luffy said "if he does I'll just beat him up"

[muted hedge]

that's been a thing all across the arc

even when they encountered Gaban and he told them about Loki's rampage, Luffy said that he'll just beat him if he does anything

[tawny kraken]

yeah

[unique lagoon]

remember how a lot of people thought loki is the big baddy of elbaf

[tawny kraken]

but I mean it could all just be a red herring, everyone telling luffy to stay away from him

they just didn't know the truth

[spice python]

He's gonna turn on Luffy, just waiting for the right time

[unique lagoon]

that would be hilarious

[tawny kraken]

hey wait

loki thinks he's the sun god, did the god of war think so too?

[spice python]

[dense rapids]

Hear me out

[unique lagoon]

glad you noticed that we still havent seen a proper reaction from loki when luffy first went nika mode

[dense rapids]

I think Nika vs war god is happening in the underworld

[dense rapids]

I think he doesn’t care

[unique lagoon]

or oda offscreened that convo

since he skip that

also loki might mention nika
but luffy wont care

like when jarul talked to him

cuz hes a dumbass

[balmy lava]

Nika vs war god likely happened in 1st world, when it was a place of darkness and cold

[unique lagoon]

oh i look exactly like this nika legend you guys worship?
totally not me btw
-luffy

[dense rapids]

Best panel Oda has drawn since pre ts

[unique lagoon]

oh that robot emet said i look exactly like this joyboy guy?

[trim lily]

i’m guessing we’ll see it either in a beautiful moment after loki is domi reversed or after the fight

[tawny kraken]

btw

why is that emote called JuPeter

[unique lagoon]

try to connect the dots
luffy edition

[unique lagoon]

its the clueless emote

[trim lily]

that’s peter

[unique lagoon]

get it?

[tawny kraken]

I see

[stone terrace]

Thats where thou were!!

[trim lily]

imu finally finds their lost pet after 800 years

[warm sierra]

that statement is still a bit baffling

[tawny kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/where-are-my-krabby-patties-pattys-spongebob-squidward-did-you-check-under-the-plate-platter-no-i-didn't-gif-3887328153519715287

wait, dammit, that doesn't even fit

[stray prism]

https://tenor.com/view/hsr-honkai-star-rail-blade-hsr-blade-fortnite-hsr-fortnite-gif-12530993892866110505

[wraith mantle]

https://x.com/pewpiece/status/2028124785075511330

Pew (@pewpiece)

NEW OFFICIAL ONEPIECE BIRTHDAY ART FOR SANJI

X · Mar 1, 2026, 3:06 PM

[stray prism]

Oh yeah sanjis bday is in march

[thin quest]

I just realized Sanji can probably smoke cigarettes and not receive any negative health effects because of his Germa body

[muted hedge]

i love that VIZ describes Nidhoggr as an obsidian dragon

[prisma yacht]

His lungs are normal

♥️

he is an inspiration

[thin quest]

Sanji and I are both March birthdays and both Pisces

[prisma yacht]

Me too

idk about fishes

[muted hedge]

do we know any new birthdays?

like Xebec, Loki, Shamrock, Sommers, Kilingham or Gunko?

or Harald

[alpine trench]

last two spreads of last ch in HQ raws

[prisma yacht]

How are bdays even determined?
By vivre cards?

[stray prism]

March best month fr

[muted hedge]

wonder if the birthday of Loki will be 17th December

[tawny kraken]

what if it's february 29

[muted hedge]

or August

[scarlet nacelle]

what if it's tomorrow?

[tawny kraken]

I don't even have a gift yet

[grand flower]

Sometimes people submit em by SBS

[alpine trench]

just like that, if the fans want a character to have a birthday on some such day or something, oda does it

he doesnt care about birthdays in that way

[cosmic hamlet]

People say like zoro birthday is on march 15th

Oda will respond with "sure"

[prisma yacht]

I see

[grand flower]

I think he does it to encourage fans to think about the goroawasw stuff

[tawny kraken]

about the what

[muted hedge]

well we know Shamrocks birthday already

shared with Mihawk and Shanks

[prisma yacht]

Japanese number readings

[tawny kraken]

wait that's a real word?

[prisma yacht]

Gorowase

Yea

[tawny kraken]

I see

[sly belfry]

Shanks and shamrock are not only twins but also share birthdays ?
Talk about stealing your whole flow

[prisma yacht]

Unreal shit

[strong wadi]

Can also be Sbs

Oops wrong comment

[alpine trench]

yeah mostly through SBS

[alpine trench]

eh idk

[tawny kraken]

reminds me, there were people here asking how shamrock can be the older brother if they're twins

[sly belfry]

What

[muted hedge]

Shamrock is 2 minutes older

confirmed by Oda

[vale heath]

Mimzee

[digital spear]

HES SO HAPPY

YAAAYYYYY

YIPPIIEEEE

[warm sierra]

Its still not super clear but VIZ translations makes me think that the god of war was a fruit user more

[alpine trench]

https://x.com/37_BLUE_STN/status/2028002499370881372?s=20

subin ⚒️ (@37_BLUE_STN)

(^_^)
\📷/ ⋆｡˚ W7 PHOTOBOOTH ...⛲️

X · Mar 1, 2026, 7:00 AM

[final trench]

Holup luffy got the lightning spear in his hand 👀

[vale heath]

Dawn Thor rifle

[final trench]

He almost there

[vale heath]

The Thor is from the lightning bolt

[stone terrace]

Ragnir gets to fight after 8 years

[digital spear]

I need Loki to spit a lightning and Luffy to surf on it

[vale heath]

Me when I get hurt

[tawny kraken]

hmmmm

(the lightning I mean)

[vale heath]

Well I mean
Top middle shares a lot of similarities

[tawny kraken]

oh wait

[stone terrace]

Id love to see an alternate reality where loki flies over skypiea during the events of the arc

Enel just fucking shits himself

[tawny kraken]

erm I just realised, if the sea level was much lower during the void century, does that mean the elbaph tree was atop a mountain or is mostly submerged mayhaps?

[pine ridge]

loki could just eat all of skypiea with one bite

[grand flower]

Enel can probably still hurt Loki

Fire still hurt Kaido

[pine ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/tawatawa-gif-7173041373909167823

[grand flower]

His arrogant ass would probably just try to shoot it

[steel stirrup]

Bro said "I dont need Ryou, hold this"

[warm sierra]

Oda giving the HK regen so he could draw more gore sure is something

[vale heath]

I do think this is a way better impact frame than either time Charlos got it

[dense haven]

well oda could rip charloss to pieces like he can with sommers

[distant vine]

OP fans should read this

[stone terrace]

The point is correct but not really

[tidal ice]

brook no diffs

[stone terrace]

Its NOT sadder objectively in that case

[distant vine]

Luffy's move is really cool

[stone terrace]

More tragic perhaps

[grand flower]

I mean that as in

Loki probably isn’t immune to being hit by lightning

Hurt*

And Enel is arrogant enough he’d probably shoot even that massive dragon

[muted hedge]

i don't think it would result in much

[distant vine]

Though then again he was making the point thats what people who quanitfy sadness view it as

[latent hamlet]

Ye sadness is just emotion

Tragedy is more objective in the sense of "how bad is the overall situation"

[grand flower]

Idk Logia seem to just have their power

[muted hedge]

yeah but i mean even if Eneru succesfully hit Loki, i don't think it would result in much when it comes to hurting Loki

mostly due to the massive size difference

[grand flower]

What a long winded way to say “the way it’s written matters”

[tawny panther]

who needs Uranus when you got Nidhogg lol

[grand flower]

Yeah no shit

[muted hedge]

Eneru would need a deathpiea scale attack

[heady smelt]

Imu needs Uranus because he doesn't have Nidhogg XD

[grand flower]

Idk shooting a needle through someone’s heart might still be fatal

There’s probably an idiom for that

[blazing depot]

This subreddit is pretentious as hell tbh. Like I agree mostly with the post but that sub is so lame

[tawny panther]

Nidhogg & Gura Gura the only two DFs that’s bare minimum island level in terms of destructive capability ?

[distant vine]

I'm okay with pretentiousness sometimes

I like to partake myself

[stone terrace]

Niddhog if eaten by an ancient giant ye

[muted hedge]

there's more devil fruits than those two that are island level

[tawny panther]

which ones

[muted hedge]

the magma fruit for example

[dense haven]

pizzaro can turn into an island so hes island level

[pseudo gulch]

I'm sure this is an Elden Ring reference Goda back at it again

[tawny panther]

can pizzaro destroy a island with his power?

[blazing depot]

Yeah you can be right about something but if you’re annoying and up your ass about it I won’t agree

[sturdy steeple]

That just comes down to presentation of the said story. It’s the same as with character depth. You might write tons of layers but if the presentation is lacklustre most wouldn’t care.

[muted hedge]

wasn't the magma fruit said to be the most destructive logia

[tawny panther]

only fruits with the capability to destroy islands easily that we’ve seen so far is Gura & Nidhogg with a ancient giant

[muted hedge]

there's definitely more

[tawny kraken]

*gura

pretty sure

[muted hedge]

it's not a logia

[tawny panther]

Nika can too with Bajrang gun

[tawny kraken]

oh logia specific

[tawny panther]

so Gura , Nika & Nidhogg

maybe Fuji but idk

the meteors be destructive

[muted hedge]

Magma, Kirin, Lightning, Flame, Darkness, Gravity, Azure Dragon...
there's alot which could potentially reduce an island to smithereens

[tawny panther]

Puncture Willie was enough to create a huge crater but idk about island level

[tawny kraken]

awakaned fuji gonna crash the moons into the planet

"try dodging this"

[distant vine]

Captain VC actually in use wow

[trim lily]

the council is discussing

[tough igloo]

not many DFs that could completely destroy islands in one single attack , but there are some that can do it overtime

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-hmm-pepehmm-table-council-gif-16396395487368552941

[tough igloo]

i think only the gura gura & nidhogg can do it in one attack and maybe bajrang gun depending on how much bigger luffy can make it

which i assume he has no limits to how big he can make it cause that’s what the fruit is all about having freedom

[dense rapids]

This is insane

The fact Gin fought Pearl too at the end of the arc

[trim lily]

pearl is nika

[grand flower]

Kaido can do it

He lifted an island

[dense rapids]

Chapter 56

[dense rapids]

Gomu

[grand flower]

Kaido can turn an island into a bomb

[tough igloo]

yeah i forgot about kaido , he can def do it

so kaido teach loki luffy can destroy islands in one attack

[grand flower]

Just pick up an island and drop it

[trim lily]

well it has to be a floating island

[grand flower]

What bruh

[tawny kraken]

awakened kuma touches the ground and the planet yeets into the sun

[grand flower]

Kaido…made it float

[alpine trench]

Kaido blew a hole all the way through Onigashima with his Boro Breathe too

[grand flower]

Doflamingo with bird cage

[warm sierra]

red serpent on gin's jacket, god of war = nidhoggr, destroying the red line

[trim lily]

wasn’t onigashima on the surface of the water rather than connected to the ground

[alpine trench]

It was an offshoot peak of Wano

Part of a mountain

[grand flower]

No Kaido ripped it out of whatever land it was on

[trim lily]

oh huh

[forest pumice]

The scale of Loki will get wild once we get out of Elbaph acnd see him on a normal island.

[trim lily]

didn’t know he had that in him

[alpine trench]

It was joint to Mount Fuji

[muted hedge]

Law probably could destroy an island as well, though it would take all of his stamina

[vale heath]

Loki in dragon form is likely as big as an island

[muted hedge]

as he'd need to engulf the entire island inside of his room

[grand flower]

That last wille move law used

Kuzan froze enough water, he can probably also do it

[muted hedge]

bigger than the average one probably

[trim lily]

shiki might be able to depending on the limits of his fruit

[muted hedge]

like, Loki's dragon state is probably bigger than all of Dressrosa even, including the green zone

[distant vine]

I think Law said making his room bigger takes years off his life

[tough igloo]

i just remember him saying it drains his stamina in dressrosa

[distant vine]

So if he sacrifices his whole life maybe he could destroy a whole island lol

[dense rapids]

ITS THE SAME CHAPTER WITH THIS COVER STORY

[forest pumice]

Uses his stamina

[muted hedge]

i don't remember it saying that Law's fruit drained his life

[alpine trench]

Bro blasted Luffy all the way down with a single blast breath

[tough igloo]

i know the anime added a line about it draining his life but in the manga i just member him talking about it draining his stamina

[vale heath]

No way

[distant vine]

Ik it uses his stamina but there's a point in Dressrosa where he gets the whole castle in his Room and I remember him saying something like that

[tough igloo]

which by the time wano happened , i guess that drain was gone with how much he was spamming it lol

[muted hedge]

hm

[prisma yacht]

What? What about this chapter?

[tough igloo]

yeah that’s a anime only thing

[prisma yacht]

Oh the pearl's shield one?

[tough igloo]

manga has always just talked about it draining his stamina since dressrosa

and his awakening drains it even more

[muted hedge]

i can only imagine what the former user of this fruit was capable of

such an insane fruit, lol

[vale heath]

Here we indirectly get reference to Nika probably having fire abilities?
Lightning dragon, ice squirrel, there’s a mainstay of a trio missing but a third element here

Electricity ice fire

[tough igloo]

they were just a doctor so probably couldn’t do half the stuff Law can

[distant vine]

Man, Law before the protag nerf...

[sweet anvil]

He did ?

[tough igloo]

Law being a fighter AND. a doctor likely discovered more stuff it could do

[steel stirrup]

I think its a safe assumption

[distant vine]

I'll look for it later

[vale heath]

Or I’m probably reading too much into this specific framing

[muted hedge]

i don't think they were just a doctor, lol
probably a warrior doctor if anything, going by the latest reveals of the old world champions

[sweet anvil]

I thought him making a big room just depleted his stamina quicker

[steel stirrup]

I dont think its crazy to think that the Sun God had fire powers

[tough igloo]

we’re told by drake pops that it was a doctor who was famous for performing miracles while dling surgeries on people … nothing about him being a fighter

most people would likely only use it to be a doctor anyway , Law is just crazy

and a D so makes sense. lol

[vale heath]

I think the perception of the fruit limits its powers

[tough igloo]

Law probably the first to awaken that fruit in centuries lol

[vale heath]

It’s clearly a lot more than just a surgery fruit, but because people see it as the surgery fruit, there’s a limitation preventing you from using it beyond that

[tough igloo]

bro had to go through hell just to awaken it lol

[muted hedge]

i don't think that needs to be mentioned, for it to be revealed later

[sweet anvil]

Idk I think it’s really well rounded I feel like it would be possible for someone to become an assassin with it

[steel stirrup]

Bro had to get a belt a few times first

No pain no gain

[forest pumice]

What I don't get is Momonosuke dragon size is the same as Kaido. So, I think that this aspect of the fruit is only applied to Loki's fruit.

[tough igloo]

oh yeah i’m not denying that it’s not possible , i’m just saying a fruit like that would be a fruit that most medical field people would try to get to use for that and not for fighting some of the strongest people in the world like Law has been doing with it

[muted hedge]

i think Momonosuke is the same size as Kaido, though i could be wrong

maybe Kaido is a bit bigger

due to his natural size

[warm sierra]

adult momo should be pretty tall

[muted hedge]

looks about even here

[tough igloo]

i don’t think the famous doctor who was performing miracle surgeries who had Law fruit before he did was out here fighting yonkos and stuff like Law crazy ass is

CD probably had the fruit for the longest then somehow lost it which is why it’s worth more than yonkos now

[muted hedge]

well it's worth is mostly because of the eternal youth operation i assume

[tough igloo]

yeah i’m saying CDs were doing that and that’s why they want it back

and why Imu has it worth more than every yonko cause of how bad they want it back

[forest pumice]

Momo height 322 cm (10'7") (current)

Kaido height 710 cm (23'4")

Official

[muted hedge]

Imu shouldn't have any trouble recovering it, though it seems that they're not determined to get it back as of now

[tough igloo]

it’s hard to track down fruits

[muted hedge]

i guess it could be because Imu already underwent the procedure

[tough igloo]

they’re been trying to get the nika fruit for centuries and never could

[muted hedge]

the Nika fruit is a completely different case

[tough igloo]

they wouldn’t. put a 5 billion price tag on a DF it they didn’t want it back badly .. it’s just hard to track down DFs

any kind of DFs , we see them a lot as readers but they are rare and super hard to find

[muted hedge]

well they could just capture Law i guess

[tough igloo]

that’s not easy either

[tawny kraken]

CDs when DVDs enter the rooom

[tough igloo]

they had trouble capturing bonney lmao let alone Law

[muted hedge]

easy or not, i think they would succeed at it

[tough igloo]

well clearly they couldn’t lol

they couldn’t even kill Doffy

even though they tried multiple. times

[muted hedge]

well there's a reason behind that

Doflamingo is actively blackmailing them

[tough igloo]

it’s not , they just couldn’t kill him

[muted hedge]

it is

[tough igloo]

no Doffy said they tried killing him multiple times and failed

he literally says this

they tried to but couldn’t

then he started. blackmailing them

[dense rapids]

Oda foreshadowed Nika vs War God all the way in chapter 59

[vale heath]

Doffy tried dying multiple times and fail man’s just not mortal

[muted hedge]

i don't remember him saying that they've tried before, i just know that they're actively trying now

[tidal ice]

I think oda just casually made up a new concept given the sheer size difference between humans and giants, it didnt need to be explicitly mentioned until now

[wet condor]

He said "once they figured out they couldn't kill me, they became quite cooperative"

or something along those lines

They tried killing him, but he kept slipping away lol

[muted hedge]

why wouldn't they be able to kill him, lol

that's so strange

[wet condor]

He had an inside man

Vergo

[tough igloo]

ask Oda but Doffy flat out says it

[wet condor]

That's part of the reason why

[tough igloo]

once they realized they couldn’t kill him , they became cooperative and he started blackmailing them

[wet condor]

Just had a good intelligence network most likely and he's also just a tough guy lol

[vale heath]

Doffy has plot armor and knows it

[muted hedge]

eh, not that tough compared to what we see currently

[wet condor]

And he also has certain people backing him like Kaido

[tough igloo]

CDs have never been good at doing their jobs so them not being able to kill a decently strong pirate is consistent with CDs

[wet condor]

What I mean is that Cipher Pol agents aren't capable of killing a guy like him unless it's maybe CP0

Obviously he's not a Yonko

[muted hedge]

yeah it probably was the CP agency

[frozen ravine]

Their strongest soldiers are the holy knights 😔

[tough igloo]

lmao exactly

the CDs just suck so of course they couldn’t kill Doffy

[frozen ravine]

Their greatest feat is stabbing tied up loki

[muted hedge]

and here it turns to slander

great

[tough igloo]

CDs deserve slander

[muted hedge]

slander ruin any discussion

[tough igloo]

there wasn’t a discussion. lol it was just us telling you that CDs failed at killing Doffy multiple times

[frozen ravine]

They killed 1hp rocks too I guess

[muted hedge]

lol, that's exactly what a discussion is

a discussion is people talking to eachother

[tough igloo]

the whole point was CDs suck so they couldn’t kill Doffy and they wouldn’t be able to track down the ope ope

[muted hedge]

and i disagree

[forest pumice]

I think it is only related to special fruits like Loki's, considering the official height. If you compare Kaido vs Momo it doesn't make sense.
Momo height: 322 cm (10'7") (adult)
Kaido height: 710 cm (23'4")

[tough igloo]

the one time they were able to track it down , they couldn’t get it cause of Corazon

and they aren’t about to try to go after Law cause they aren’t dumb lol

especially now

[muted hedge]

well, i still think that if they wanted to they could send Shamrock for example and make Law their hostage, then kill him and cause the fruit to be passed on to a nearby one

[tidal ice]

It doesnt make sense because oda invented a new thing on the spot

[muted hedge]

but plot demands otherwise

it's that simple

[tough igloo]

and imu not sending gorosei out to get DFs

so it’s just a lost cause

maybe a pre timeskip law before he became a warlord sure they could send a HK to try and get his SF but now they not sending any HKs after Law and nor were they crazy enough to when he was allied wit Luffy

[muted hedge]

i thought you said that they desperately wanted the ope-ope

you're going against your own words now

[tough igloo]

i literally said they desperately wanted it then chalked it up as a lost cause when corazon took it … up until Law became a famous pirate they didn’t even know who had it

pre timeskip law would’ve been their only chance to take it

but again like i said Imu ain’t sending any HKs or gorosei out to get it from him

[muted hedge]

alright

[tawny panther]

Law DF being worth more than every character bounty except WB & Roger is insane 😂 Imu really put the highest bounty on that shit