also-manga

[grand flower]

I think so too

I think kings can request an audience with the elders

Kings in the WG

Kinda like parlay from the PoTC movies

[graceful grove]

How do you see it playing out?

[grand flower]

Teach gonna use that to get a pass to Marijoa

[sweet anvil]

You’re acting like Blackbeard is less important to the plot than imu and luffy the way I see it it’s all three of them just like it was Davy imu and joyboy in the void century

[rose brook]

i think teach isnt in the mural

[sweet anvil]

I think it’s possible for Blackbeard to fulfill davys promise

[thick mango]

he is doomed to fail to luffy. But i dont think its 100% hes doomed to fail vs imu

[balmy lava]

the elders have been trying to get rid of teach for a bit

[sweet anvil]

Yeah I agree with that

[balmy lava]

I mean once the elders sent Akainu to murder teach, I think both sides know betrayal is to be had

[sweet anvil]

Wait

[thick mango]

i think decent shot luffy+bb vs imu. Its would be the natural extension of the moment in impel down where he has to choose to let bb go so he can pursue his noble goal instead. Its an even harder ask to have to ally with bb for the greater good

[sweet anvil]

Him making pirate island official would get him a seat at reverie right

[thick mango]

not specifically no there just was a reverie

[balmy lava]

BB murders the people Luffy cares about. It seems antithetical to his dream.

[thick mango]

we're not waiting 3 years the story only has like 6 weeks max in world i think \

[sweet anvil]

Yeah that’s what I was going to say

It’s pointless

[sweet anvil]

1v1v1

[vital heart]

I deserve to be banned from this server for eternity.

[sweet anvil]

Why

[vital heart]

I provide no benefit for this community

[thick mango]

thats what makes it hard. I can cite an example from another series of a similar development where the sort of pinnacle of the main character's maturity is reluctantly allying with exceedingly distasteful people because its the responsible thing to do against a greater existential threat

[vital heart]

As Edgar Allen Poe once said: "Let there be light!"

[balmy lava]

you literaly anwswered a translation question for me an hour ago lol

[sweet anvil]

Aren’t you the guy that always makes those bets with people

Keep making bets

[balmy lava]

I think Imu and BB represent opposites for luffy. One is the negative Nika and the other is the Negative D.

it is why BB only uses the sun symbol that is getting close to Axis WW2 symbology, and no others.

[thick mango]

like in impel down, the childish impulsive thing to do is to fight bb right here and now out of revenge. But that wont help ace get saved. The responsible thing to do is suck it up and move forward in saving ace, and thats what luffy does

[balmy lava]

Its kind of like a hitler/stalin non agrression pact

[vital heart]

no politics please

[balmy lava]

well, luffy isnt stalin, but you get what I am saying

[vital heart]

no politics please

[thick mango]

and i think it would be appropriate for post ts final war to have an echo where the responsible thing to do is to look past your hate for bb for now. This could especially work if bb kills/defeats shanks

[grand flower]

Oh good thinking. They’re gonna plan it as an ambush, that’s when he and York steal the Seraphim

[sweet anvil]

Is it just me

[balmy lava]

EXACTLY. BB is going to want to be betrayed, because he has a betrayl on top of a betrayal.

[sweet anvil]

It feels like since the reveal of Davy and the mural the story has been building up to Luffy imu and Blackbeard all meeting at once

[grand flower]

Forcing himself in is what teach does best tbh

[keen quiver]

The mural is jack shit

Why does everyone take the mural like its the gospel truth

The mural has emeth on it

And he's dusted

It's also missing shanks and bb

And no dragon

[sweet anvil]

It’d be interesting if all three of them build up their forces and the final war ends up being a three way between them

[balmy lava]

The mural might represent concepts than directly people. So Nika on the mural could represent three different people over different eras.

[keen quiver]

That mural is not a vision of the future.

[grand flower]

Luffy and Teach are gonna cause what’s more readily apparent in the mural to get deviated from

The mural is definitely meant to be undercut

[sweet anvil]

Might I say Blackbeard taking over cross guild could be in the cards

[hot cairn]

I think the mural is only showing the first world and the second world

not the third one

[rose brook]

i mean i think no one who teach inherited his will from is in the mural

[graceful grove]

Because they dies

[rose brook]

most figures in it can be connected to a present day character

[blazing depot]

I would not call those Elbaph children who made the mural reliable sources

[sweet anvil]

It’s franky 🥹

[keen quiver]

Pretty clear teach inherited the will of davy jones

[blazing depot]

Remember when we were kindergarteners? We were fucking stupid

[civic dust]

😭 people ignore that Emeth is literally right there

[grand flower]

Them being children is exactly what makes it reliable

[rose brook]

Yes, he was alive in the void century i think tho

[sweet anvil]

How long do you guys think the flashback will be

[grand flower]

OP has a very strong ongoing motif if associating childhood with innocence and purity

[keen quiver]

The void flashback ?

[grand flower]

But most of all, honesty

[keen quiver]

Like 30 chaps

We might be in it

[sweet anvil]

Whether it’s the first and second world together or seperate

[grand flower]

Luffy is the embodiment of a child

[keen quiver]

For a year

[grand flower]

According to Oda

[sweet anvil]

This is very conservative

[hot cairn]

true

[civic dust]

Davy jones king of the ancient kingdom

[sweet anvil]

The rocks flashback was 18 right

[grand flower]

Ripley saying that it’s the dream of a child

That’s an endorsement from Oda

[blazing depot]

Wrong! Foxy

[grand flower]

Not a reason to dismiss it

[blazing depot]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-pirate-festival-stampede-one-piece-stampede-one-piece-movie-stampede-gif-6093668643074180588

He continued Davy Jones’ legacy of the Davy back fight…

[grand flower]

There’s no guarantee Emet is the only of whatever he is

Collun had a toy of a robot like Emet

[sweet anvil]

It’s franky trust

[rose brook]

Kinda weird that joyboy got erased from history but davy jones is a famous pirate

[hot cairn]

I don’t think the third world is shown on the drawing

[sweet anvil]

He’s going to get the mother flame and build his own robot

[prisma idol]

Nope

I agree

[balmy lava]

I think it is to some degree.

[keen quiver]

Imu's biggest fumble

[grand flower]

He’s going to figure out how to make mother flames himself

Not get one

[thick mango]

I think the deal for recognition could be garp + moving against the revos

[grand flower]

Convert the Sunny into a giant robot

[prisma idol]

What i believe is shown is the first world on the right and the second world (Joyboy vs Imu) on the left

[rose brook]

davy jones was after the void century right

[hot cairn]

I agree 100%

[deep chasm]

well being a famous pirate being used as a tale is a big step down from king of the world. I could imagine Imu is fine with davy jones just being seen as a strong pirate back in the day

[keen quiver]

He was the king of the ancient kingdom

According to rocks

So no

[blazing depot]

Imu might be the dumbest dark lord in fiction

[grand flower]

Rocks implies it’s before

[grand flower]

How so?

[civic dust]

Before

[keen quiver]

Davy jones lived at the same time as joyboy

[balmy lava]

I think the left side of the mural shows the final war, the one that has not finished yet. The left side is the start of the void century till tomorrow.

[rose brook]

fr?

[blazing depot]

He keeps fucking up

[summer obsidian]

Will we see Davy jones locker

Holy

[balmy lava]

vegapunk even noted the war against Imu hasnt finished. The war of the 2nd age is not over.

[rose brook]

I guess

[keen quiver]

Starting to think blachole is davy jones locker

[thick mango]

the revos are causing real problems that might move the wg to make a deal. Theres weird unresolved conflict between revos and bbp. And also the revos cant be too successful or they usurp luffy's role.

[grand flower]

That’s probably where Kid is

[keen quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/blackbeard-law-yami-no-mi-devil-fruit-gif-12746760983508509970

[civic dust]

😭 “those wano walls are to tall i better sit my ass in this flower garden for 800 years”

[rose brook]

davy jones was a pirate so if joyboy was the first pirate he was alive during or after joyboys time

[sweet anvil]

I don’t think he’ll be able to build a mother flame tbh or it would at least take a lot of help from the vegapunk satellite

[keen quiver]

Gv have us who the important figures back then we're:joyboy, imu, davy jones, poseidon and Lilly

[civic dust]

Davy jones was originally a king. We don’t know if even was a pirate or that was just propaganda to slander his name

[grand flower]

Franky is def doint it

He’s a main protagonist

Franky is gonna perfect VPs research

[keen quiver]

It could be he was a king and had to turn to piracy later

[balmy lava]

Nika == , BB == . And BB's is def. the most dangerous.

[rose brook]

Was he stated to be the king of the ancient kingdom or only implied all that rocks said was that he was the king of the world right

[thick mango]

Heres a sequence of events I can see

• In exchange for recognition, BB moves against the revo blockade. Revos are defeated but not completely
• While BB is in town crushing the revos, he goes down to fmi to try and get shirahoshi
• Meanwhile, BB moves against wano to try and get pluton and shanks tries to stop him but is defeated
  BB will have defeated both luffy's father and his kinda adopted father

[grand flower]

Yeah rocks said king of the world

[sweet anvil]

Blackbeard won’t defeat dragon

[deep chasm]

thats a good thought

[rose brook]

The only identity we don't know is the previous poseidon

Imvest in shirahoshi

[sweet anvil]

I don’t think it’s a possibility if I’m being honest

[formal wagon]

whats sad is that the world is called planet blue or something so rocks is kind of a bum

[keen quiver]

Teach was obsessed with the darkness fruit for a reason

[sweet anvil]

And the elbaf war god now

[balmy lava]

People with DF powers are at a supreme disadvantage against teach. And teach was able to knock around Shanks.

[thick mango]

but the revos cant just win right? Luffy has to be required to win. So the revos need to get defeated. And whats the deal with the revo/bbp animosity in dressrosa and other times? Shouldnt we expect that to build to something?

[hot cairn]

what’s the correlation

[balmy lava]

The Dark Sun that steals powers of the devil

[keen quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/you-keep-talking-explain-idris-elba-point-question-gif-4892661

[formal wagon]

world has bad name
rocks wants to be king of the world

[grand flower]

Teach is a black hole for sure

An abyss

[balmy lava]

and what is a black hole, just a dead sun

[formal wagon]

@hot cairn what should my march bit be

[sweet anvil]

You’re right but if I had to guess I don’t think the revs who’s goal is to take out the wg will get taken out of the final war before it even starts if anything they’ll stalemate and the Revs will pull out

[grand flower]

Exactly

[formal wagon]

i cant type

[rose brook]

If the ancient kingdom is presumably underwater doesnt it make sense for it to be davy jones' locker

[balmy lava]

it is why when BB uses his darkness, its a dark sun

[sweet anvil]

Dragon being defeated offscreen before he doesn’t anything also doesn’t feel plausible to me

[balmy lava]

the dark dark fruit is connected to Nika

[grand flower]

Blackbeard takes the Seraphim

Dragon takes them from Blackbeard

Trust me

[civic dust]

Implied to be king of the world by rocks. But clearly the ancient kingdom would be that kingdom and imus reaction pretty much confirms that it’s true

[formal wagon]

yeah

[keen quiver]

How can you not love this man

[rose brook]

Nika is probably an antihero (dawn and dusk)

[grand flower]

Dragons in the system

[balmy lava]

BB has the strength to take almost anythign right now, but how is he going to get pluton, fight the marines, take the holyland, and find the one piece in the next few weeks.

[hot cairn]

Elbaph starts on April

[keen quiver]

Pluton is the right play

Getting pluton for teach would be huge

[formal wagon]

wait thats fire

[grand flower]

He won’t

[formal wagon]

okay i'll do that

[grand flower]

Akainu is taking Pluton

[keen quiver]

Akainu taking pluton

Is very far fetched

[rose brook]

I think when vivi reunites with the straw hats we will find out teach invaded alabasta

[keen quiver]

Like saying coby is getting poseidon

[grand flower]

You can laugh but I have plenty of evidence for it

[civic dust]

😭 😭 bro is to scared of the samurai to go there

[grand flower]

Nope. Just a descendent of theirs

[balmy lava]

Only think Akainu is doing is staying around holy land. He has hinted that. Morally the only people Akainu is going to have no problem going after is pirates. BB is one person he will attack on site without question.

[thick mango]

i think the bb/wg recognition negotiations will be successful. So im kinda working backwards from there. I think thatll really piss off akainu and could be the key marine/wg wedge issue that breaks the camel's back. I dont think bb is spinning up a plan on screen to just go, 'ah that didnt work out lets try something else'. I think we should expect his plan to play out. Its also just the type of thing we should expect from bb being similar to his impel down plan. I think we should expect it to happen.

But garp alone isnt going to be enough. So what can bb do to sweeten the deal? Move against the revos who hes already had animosity towards during post TS. And also BB cynically and amorally crushing the most significant threat to the WG in decades would be a further point to strongly distinguish him from rocks who seemed to hate the wg on principle.

[keen quiver]

The guy who's gonna get pluton everyone

[vital heart]

I really wanna get banned from here one day

[keen quiver]

Scared of the akazaya

[vital heart]

@keen quiver Mute me for 10 hours

Goodbye !

[gloomy tree]

i mean i can do that right now for you Meek

not a problem

[keen quiver]

Already got it

Do not worry

[balmy lava]

Or, maybe BB is a lying dude who says his fake plan outloud so spys and marines feed it back

[gloomy tree]

i meant the ban

[keen quiver]

Oh lmao

[hot cairn]

@grand flower he’s kinda right

[balmy lava]

last time BB tried to negotiate with WG, Akainu came an inch away from murdering the entire BB pirate crew

[hot cairn]

The WG trusting BB again will look so incredibly stupid ngl

[balmy lava]

BB knows this, Akainu knows this

[naive marsh]

Does he know?

[keen quiver]

Akainu has zero info on pluton, the holy land is burning and he's still looking for that lobster on marijoa

[rose brook]

they would never work with bb unless he has some sort of crazy blackmail like doffy did

[thick mango]

their key treat is arrogance. The last thing was more a marine problem than a cd problem. And thats more fuel on the fire to enrage akainu and get the coup that probably needs to happen. And theyre desperate. The holy land is in such turmoil that sha had to be called away from elabf, a very important target

[balmy lava]

the CDs a few chapters ago wanted to punish Akainu too after this for not stopping kuma.

so Akainu on a lot of peoples poop list

[thick mango]

i dont think bb is sharing his plan for the day after negotions I think hes presenting it to his crew as just being worthwhile in its own right. And in that case counterspying doesnt give you anything that the existence of the negotations doesnt already communicate

[keen quiver]

He has no time to be messing around currently

[civic dust]

pluton gonna be revealed to be Davy jones ship. My guess it’s powered by a Klabautermann

[keen quiver]

His crew definitely knows certain details about the plan. But I think only the truly loyal know whats going on.

[thick mango]

I agree akainu would never ally with BB again. But thats what would make it a perfect thing to overrule him on. And make a pirate island country? What could akainu hate more. Its perfect to final spark that fire

[balmy lava]

playing the meta-game here, but we are at the end of one-piece. BB wants the world, Rocks wanted the world. Rocks even laid out his plan was to destroy the marines, and then take the holyland.

[keen quiver]

Caterina seems to be fully into teach and the cause

[balmy lava]

I mean Akainu literally tried to murder the BB pirates last time he saw him.

[keen quiver]

I nean the world here feels like code for imu

[balmy lava]

exactly, BB already has an island, now he wants the world.

[thick mango]

exactly so how do you think hell feel if hes told to shut up and listen the five elders have decided bb can become a king

[keen quiver]

The island for sure was a step in the plans to become a yonko

And gain influence over the new world.

[balmy lava]

right, he is going to try and set-up teach to murder him. Feel a sense of justice. And bam, BB going to flip it on him.

[keen quiver]

These last 2 years teach hasn't really stopped grinding for his plans.

[grand flower]

@balmy lava @civic dust

[balmy lava]

The holy land is already falling apart. The reverie and the WG are collapsing as we speak.

[keen quiver]

Same as luffy and his crew. They haven't veen sitting on their asses being lazy.

[thick mango]

thats why theyre desperate and might need to agree to deal with bb

at face value its a great deal

[balmy lava]

this could happen, after marineford has sunken

then BB would have true leverage

[thick mango]

they get garp back, they get the revos crushed and siege lifted, and all they have to do is let bb pay them taxes

and let him do his thing which theyre already doing cause hes a yonko

[balmy lava]

BB does not want to be a recognized island lol. He wants to do the recognizing. He will at minimum make a deal with WG to be ruler of the blue sea.

[keen quiver]

If they agree to a deal with teach that cannot go well for the wg

😭

[thick mango]

sure but im talking face value terms of the deal

[balmy lava]

If Dragon and Akainu fall to BB pirates, then the only person able to help feed the WG and provide security will be commodare (or emperor) teach.

[thick mango]

yeah but they might be too arrogant to realize that. And also desperate if the situation is dire enough shamrock got called back

[keen quiver]

What the hell is going on up there

That it's going this badly

[thick mango]

i think its just the siege

[balmy lava]

at a minimum, the CDs are basically starving

[keen quiver]

We really need that pov change after this

[thick mango]

enough time has passed that theyd be starting out to actually run out of food, not just specific dishes like a while ago

and the marines cant police the CD

only gods knights can

[keen quiver]

Fantastic news

[balmy lava]

Akainu is borderline going to be eliminated by the WG. The marines are getting shaky, and have suffered major defeats recently. BB sinking marineford gives him actual negotiation power. Garp as a trade piece is ONLY to get the marines all together to make a deal.

BB NEEDs a reason to lure the Marines to be in one place, to make a deal, and betray him. Because the seraphim are BBs effectively.

BB needs all the seraphim at one location. And him making a deal and pulling up to marineford is the moment the marines will do that.

Count on Akainu being Akainu. Its going to be marineford 2.0. BB has seen how the WG reacts to a pirate grand fleet pulling up to a marine base.

[hot cairn]

yeah I just don’t see it happening

[hot cairn]

idk it’ll just look extremely stupid on the government’s part

[thick mango]

imu eliminating saturn in front of the vice adirals was extremely stupid

[balmy lava]

I can see BB going 'Akainu, you never will change will you. A pirate can always count on you for your hatred of us.' As the serphaim and admirals jump at the BB pirates in a surprise ambush, boom, serpahim flip.

[thick mango]

they are extremely stupid. they think humans are insects. Theyre blinded by extreme arrogance

[grand flower]

@balmy lava @civic dust

[hot cairn]

how would that be any different than the Warlord system, he didn’t seem to have any problems with having Pirates do their dirty work

[hot cairn]

The holy land looked nice and clean this chapter

nobody is attacking it

[balmy lava]

It is going to be a major secret that only a few people know about. Which means York wont know either.

[balmy lava]

Either 1) oda miss draw. 2) its really just chaos, but nothing burning 3) Shamrock killed all the CDs.

[thick mango]

but im saying imu could have waited like a few days done it after saturn got back. Achieved the exact same outcome. All he had to do as apply a tiny bit of self control in the moment and not impulsively lash out. But imu couldnt do that. Thats who we're dealing with. Thats the kind of thought process that will ally with teach again if things in the holy land are desperate

[balmy lava]

realistically Imu seems like an immortal 13 year old

[thick mango]

and even if it did look physically fine, shamrock being called away from elbaf, a very important mission, indicates there is a dire sitaution in the holy land

[hot cairn]

It was yes

[hot cairn]

I think it’s just 2

[hot cairn]

@thick mango

[balmy lava]

Agreed, although we did see garling execute a CD

[hot cairn]

that’s true

[thick mango]

cause hes not like a tool thats being used and could be thrown away hes being integrated into the system. To a certain extent, at that point the marines partially exist at the service of bb

its now akainu's job to defend pirate island if it were to be attacked

[maiden saffron]

https://vxtwitter.com/EMUNOPLA/status/2027902360576573593/photo/1

EMUNOPLA (@EMUNOPLA)

🚨After the release of Chapter 1175, Elbaph Arc has now reached 50 chapters since its beginning📊

🪓Only 1 more chapter is needed to reach 9th rank.

vxTwitter / fixvx · Mar 1, 2026, 12:22 AM

so called short arc

[pseudo gulch]

Holy cow it's been 50 chapters already

[maiden saffron]

kinda crazy how used we are to long arcs in one piece now

no issues with it though

[pseudo gulch]

As long as it's good

[deep chasm]

tbf I think post timeskip is just the problem

[pseudo gulch]

Do you think it'll end up in the top 5?

[maiden saffron]

well i don't think its a problem. I like these arcs

[deep chasm]

its still short so far compared to our last 3 arcs

[maiden saffron]

top 5? Nahh

well maybe ...

have to see the how it concludes

and what it leads to

[deep chasm]

to get top 5 it only has to be 67 chapters, Id say so

if its at 50 rn?

[maiden saffron]

oh i thought you meant quality

Lmfao

[deep chasm]

oh

[maiden saffron]

probably not top 5

[deep chasm]

I guess idk what they meant

[pseudo gulch]

It's like 6 more months

It's not impossible

I meant in length lol

[maiden saffron]

i dont think we have 17 more chapters tbh

[deep chasm]

if top 5 in length yes, top 5 in quality I dont think so but its been a pretty good arc so far so maybe

[deep chasm]

I feel like theres still quite a bit to do

[hot cairn]

I don’t see The difference really, Fujitora was forced to defend Doffy

[deep chasm]

and you consider clean up chapters, like the party from wano for example

[hot cairn]

time flies by

[maiden saffron]

I think the holy knights will end up fleeing

[deep chasm]

thats at least like 5 chapters of cleanup

I think we can get 12 of them fighting and whatnot

[maiden saffron]

and apart from that, there's not a whole bunch of stuff to do. Like 5 more chapters of fighting and stuff and 5 more of cleanup sounds alright to me

[hot cairn]

what’s the problem?

[pseudo gulch]

I absolutely love Loki's zoan form, which one do you like more between Loki and Kaido?

[thick mango]

but that was because he was king of dressrosa not because he was a warlord. doffy is both

[deep chasm]

arcs in post timeskip are longer than pre timeskip

[pseudo gulch]

To be fair 4 arcs in the top 10 are pre ts

[hot cairn]

what happens if Loki gets domi reversid

[pseudo gulch]

But they're more down the list compared to the post ts ones

[maiden saffron]

conquerors haki

he resists it

unlike his dad

[hot cairn]

hard choice ngl

I want to see it animated first

[deep chasm]

and in the bottom 17 theres only 2 arcs that are post timeskip

[civic dust]

Luffy will probably be able to undo it with the Nika fruit

[deep chasm]

Im not countign reverie as an arc

but even if you do thats 3 arcs out of bottom 17

[maiden saffron]

post ts arcs are definitely much longer

like wano alone is longer than alabasta and skypiea which are the longest pre-ts arcs

[deep chasm]

yea, inflation lately too. The difference between the longest post ts arc and longest pre ts arc is over double

149 to 66 is insane difference

[pseudo gulch]

Wano on its own is longer than many series

[hot cairn]

well it’s def passing FMI, W7 and Ennies Lobby I think

[pseudo gulch]

If we go by number of chapters alone

[hot cairn]

yeah, and BB would be the King of Pirate Island

[hot cairn]

I don’t think that’s a problem

[pseudo gulch]

Yeah I think it'll end in 5th place

[hot cairn]

if Rocks didn’t resist it, Loki is cooked

[thick mango]

and you think akainu would be happy about that development? The change is happening right now under his watch when hes in the position of greatest possible power

[deep chasm]

thats not my point Im just saying that is why elbaf seems to be so long for a "short arc"

compared to post timeskip arcs its not so long, more like average if that

[thick mango]

you think akainu's reaction will be... well if i take a step back and really think rationally about this bb being king is no different from the warlord system which I served under for many years and blah blah... thats not what akainu is like

[hot cairn]

I don’t buy that theory, I think it’s clear with Roger and Garp vs Rocks that you just need to beat the shit out of them

[hot cairn]

again, he wasnt against the Warlord system so no. Fujitora tho? That’s someone that could be mad

[civic dust]

The god of liberation will definitely be able to liberate Loki. Garp and Roger didn’t have the Nika fruit with them

[hot cairn]

I don’t buy that theory

[thick mango]

i think youre crazy if akainus gonna be like ah thats perfectly fine for bb to be a king by blackmailing us with threats against our marine hero

[hot cairn]

ahh I get it now

yeah you’re right

[outer silo]

Is it me or does elbaf feel short

[hot cairn]

Elbaph will def end up in the top 6 at least

[outer silo]

Feels like nothing happened

[urban lodge]

If Oda isn't washed it will be top 3

[hot cairn]

and people keep thinking that the final war can be short because of Marineford lol

[outer silo]

Yeah not sure about that

Elbaf has been kinda meh

[hot cairn]

things are different now

[outer silo]

So far

We haven’t gotten legit fight

[urban lodge]

Top 3 longest I mean

[outer silo]

Just epic fucking double spreads

[hot cairn]

is that the only thing that can guarantee an arc to be good? Lol

[grand flower]

@balmy lava @civic dust

[urban lodge]

But I think it's been really good with the exception of the flashback

[outer silo]

Been feeling kinda short

[outer silo]

Yes

I need fights

Not EPIC FUCKING DOUBLE SPREADS

[grand flower]

@balmy lava @civic dust

[hot cairn]

That’s a silly way to see One Piece

[grand flower]

Listen to that idiot over there if y’all want to

[outer silo]

It’s a battle shoneon tho

[grand flower]

I have PLENTY to think Akainus gonna take pluton

[maiden saffron]

we'll get fights like we always do

[grand flower]

Everyone thinks Teach will claim Pluton, the ultimate battleship right?

[hot cairn]

do you only read OP because of the fights?

[outer silo]

I donno man we haven’t gotten anything

[grand flower]

What did Akainu prevent teach from claiming after Marineford?

[tough igloo]

i wonder if the gorosei would tell akainu to shut up and sit down again if he tried giving his opinion on the Garp matter lol

[grand flower]

Stay woke nigga

[outer silo]

If one piss had no fights I wouldn’t read

[maiden saffron]

even if we don't get any fights. It doesn't really matter

[outer silo]

Garling alone solos him

[outer silo]

If we don’t bottom 3 arc

[maiden saffron]

That's a sad way to look at a manga

[outer silo]

Worse than fishman island

[hot cairn]

that’s a ridiculous way to see the story

[outer silo]

No fights = trash

[maiden saffron]

For your sake I hope you're a troll

[outer silo]

Story?

[maiden saffron]

but anyway moving on

[outer silo]

No I’m being deadass

[tough igloo]

lol if Akainu didn’t respect the OG Gorosei , he for sure no gonna respect Garling 😂

[hot cairn]

yes? You know, the thing we’re reading

[grand flower]

Lmaoooo idk who these dudes think Akainu is

[outer silo]

Akainu doesn’t wanna catch the fade

Garling wrecks him

Garling is top 5

Why does everyone call me a troll for saying that

He legit is

[grand flower]

Akainu walked into a room with all five elders

Called them dumbasses

[outer silo]

To talk

[grand flower]

Said don’t do that shit again

[outer silo]

Probably pissed his pants

[grand flower]

And capped off with they some bitches

[maiden saffron]

W

[tough igloo]

lol akainu gonna respect Garling the least

[outer silo]

Garling wasn’t there I think

[grand flower]

He was insulting them the entire time lmaoooo

OP fans really don’t read they own atory

[outer silo]

Was Garling there tho

[maiden saffron]

the elders might be bums honestly

[outer silo]

I skim through

[maiden saffron]

alongside garling, well ig he's an elder now too

[grand flower]

Akainu ain’t bouta give two fucks about Garling lol

[outer silo]

Exactly wacury and Garling

[outer silo]

Garling is over shanks

You aren’t ready for him

[grand flower]

Side note

[tough igloo]

to Akainu … Garling is just another HK lol

probably won’t even view him as a gorosei lol

[grand flower]

It’s funny how the mockers vanish when panels start dropping

Flimsy indeed

[outer silo]

To Garling akaniu is a dog

[balmy lava]

Akainu keeps getting hate by the CDs. He may be a scapegoat for execution.

[civic dust]

“Damn yall are scrapping the barrel for new recruits”

[grand flower]

This is just set up for his rebellion

[outer silo]

Brooo Garling mogs akainu

[grand flower]

People forget Akainu believes in the Navy, not the WG

[outer silo]

It’s not close

[tough igloo]

“ damn … yall should’ve at least went with Shamrock instead of Garling “

[hot cairn]

gotta tag them

[formal wagon]

people forget akainu is really cool and has aura

[hot cairn]

But you already know my opinion on that storyline

[outer silo]

Garling beats his son

[grand flower]

I tagged em for every set of images

[tough igloo]

powerscaling & garling in the same sentence .. just seems like a recipe for trolling lol

[balmy lava]

if BB sinkes marineford, brings food to the CDs and said he will protect them, they are dumb enough to go for it. 'Akainu sucked, so lets go with this BB rat, he at least brought steaks.'

[grand flower]

Exactly lol

[grand flower]

Check them tags

Akainu claiming pluton

Learned from his parents who emigrated from Wano

Trust

[outer silo]

I’m being serious

[tough igloo]

that’s the sad part of it all

[outer silo]

Garling is top 5

[balmy lava]

nobody in wano knows about pluton except like 3 people

[outer silo]

Once he proves it

[formal wagon]

good for garling

[grand flower]

Post proof that none of the people who left 55 years ago know about it

[civic dust]

😭 it’s a top secret why would he know

[formal wagon]

sukiyaki, oden, and robin

i guess moria might know

[grand flower]

#also-manga message

[balmy lava]

oden only knew because it was a royal family secret.

[formal wagon]

yeah nepo baby oden

[grand flower]

There’s zero proof that among the people who left Wano, none of them knew about Pluton

And Theres zero proof they can’t be Akainus parents

[balmy lava]

Kaido lived on top of pluton, and had access to most of wanos secrets, and had a fishman under wano and still couldnt find it

[grand flower]

So the theory remains viable

[grand flower]

Csuse it’s in a volcano

[formal wagon]

there is zero proof imu isn't luffy's mom

[grand flower]

Yes that’s how theories work you geniuses

They’re viable as long as there’s nothing that says it’s not

Yall get on my nerves lemme go do sumn else

[hot cairn]

starting a reread of WCI, I wonder if people had any theories on Pudding being evil or if it was a surprise weekly

[grand flower]

I was surprised

[hot cairn]

I wasnt expecting it at all during my first time reading

[dapper tree]

Some people thought she was evil

But it wasn't a lot

[proud pivot]

Just usually exaggerated plot twist

[signal fiber]

I never thought she was evil but I thought the slime on her shoulder meant something

[formal wagon]

how marianne DECEPTIVELY would've been moving at marineford if she had access to elbaf rainbow chalk:

they're called painters

will they ever be used again or go the way of dials light effecting gauntlents and food

maybe they'll use them to invade marijoa

theres no proof they won't

[dapper tree]

When can Whitey Bay return to the plot?

[steel stirrup]

Hopefully soon

[dapper tree]

[keen quiver]

Rough being a pirate in these haki seas

[steel stirrup]

LMAOOO

[scarlet nacelle]

once saw someone saying that the reason roger went down pk and rocks didn't was simply because roger got to choose the terms of his death

which, honestly is smth worth thinking about

rocks being defeated and eventually erased compared to roger's true legacy

not calling roger a fraud though. i just find this idea of him accepting death interesting

[sacred nimbus]

roger didn't know the world's history and went onto reaching laugh tales meanwhile rocks knew he'd hv to defeat imu to change the world and possibly unlock one piece and he didn't succeed, ppl didn't know what one piece is even now, roger "claimed one piece" but only his crew knew the real story, he's the pk alright

[scarlet nacelle]

the one piece itself and roger's expanded knowledge also are big factors

[keen quiver]

That's a valid way of looking at it.

He also found the one piece which is something to be remembered for

The news sold it as him conquering the grandline

[hot cairn]

I’m surprised Rocks wasnt even interested in the OP

[keen quiver]

The government did try to wipe out his blood line for it

And in the end succeeded

[scarlet nacelle]

well the OP is joyboy's story
rocks prolly more interested in davy

[grand flower]

Other way around but yeah

[keen quiver]

Either davy jones din't know about it. Or its not a weapon to kill imu.

[grand flower]

Roger was able to choose the terms of his death because he was made of sumn worthy of being PK

[keen quiver]

It feels like whatever the op is

Has zero info on imu

[tough igloo]

yall think Toki was Team Joyboy or Team Davy Jones ?

[grand flower]

It was never meant to be Rocks

[grand flower]

Team Joy boy

[tough igloo]

yeah feels most likely

[keen quiver]

Ngl

I don't care about toki much

😭

[grand flower]

Wano doesnt leave a lot of room for otherwise fr fr

[keen quiver]

She doesn't do much for me

[grand flower]

For a second I thought maybe she was team Davy and was looking for joy boy to kill him

But Oden was so pro Joy boy I dismissed it

[tough igloo]

would’ve been interesting if toki had went to laughtale with oden and saw what joyboy left behind .. she could’ve given som
more insight on it since she personally knew him

[grand flower]

Exactly why she couldn’t go

[keen quiver]

She just has nothing to say about the void century

Just nothing

[tough igloo]

so far with all the void century people we’ve met , they seem to be Team Joyboy (emeth , toni , zuniesha ) … i wonder who was Team Davy back then .. we know Imu had the 20 kings on their side

[keen quiver]

And again nobody seems to know anything about imu

Gaban was confused as to what was happening with harald

And the other GK

[ocean sigil]

What is a must have One Piece volume? My brother is in Japan and I want him to bring me a Japanese volume but I cant decide which

[grand flower]

I wanna know how Toki knew what would happen 20 years after odens death @tough igloo

[keen quiver]

So either joyboy dint give any info on imu. Or imu getting powers happened the same fight as joyboy. It could be he just remained in the shadows till the last second.

[grand flower]

cough cough

[tough igloo]

it seems to be set up like

Joyboy/Laughtale gives info on how the world came to be at laughtale

Davy clan have info on Imu specifically and how to bring them down

[ocean sigil]

Awakened fruit could look into the future

[tough igloo]

cause Rocks knew stuff that a post laughtale gaban didn’t

[keen quiver]

Info on everything except imu it seems

Don't mind the meme

Lmao

[tough igloo]

yeah cause Gaban didn’t know about Nidhogg or Imu yet Rocks did

[keen quiver]

Just what would happen if newgate cared about laughtale

[tough igloo]

but Gaban likely knows other stuff that Rocks doesn’t due to laughtale

[keen quiver]

Very likely davy jones has info joyboy lacked

Or I guess had

[tough igloo]

so if laughtale doesn’t give you the full story then how will Luffy & robin ever find it out if they just go to laughtale lol

through Teach ?

[keen quiver]

Gonna have to find out via teach speech

Lmao

[dapper tree]

Team Vander Decken I

[keen quiver]

Gonna need to bust out another iconic moment

[tough igloo]

hmmmm Vander Decken did have his own Flying Dutchman (a ship heavily associated with davy jones in lore ) .. maybe the OG Vander was Team Davy or was a fan of Davy later on

[keen quiver]

Let me catch oda trying to parallel this when joyboy and davy meet

[keen quiver]

Starting to think he was a crewmate

[dapper tree]

Davey Jones, Vander I, and Joyboy all made fun of Imu

[keen quiver]

Of course davy has a Fishman in his crew

Every big pirate crew

Ends up with one

[trim lily]

except shanks

[tough igloo]

lol well he’s a CD by blood sooo….

[keen quiver]

Og vander decken was the dumbell

Of his crew

[keen quiver]

Let's not make that joke

💀

[balmy lava]

flying dutchman has no relation to davy jones except in a johny depp movie

[keen quiver]

I meant it as I wouldnt be suprised

If he had such a varied crew

[tough igloo]

Shanks said nah i’m good lol

[keen quiver]

Davy jones sounds like he was a ruthless sob

[dapper tree]

They were the big 3 of the void century

[grand flower]

Doesnt invalidate it

Oda draws on pop culture

[tough igloo]

which is what he’s most famous from & Oda loves Disney

[indigo yacht]

Maybe Davy jones was a chill guy

[grand flower]

Lokis first appearance and his horns/helmet are marvel references

[tough igloo]

I think Davy Jones was more like Teach than he was like Rocks

[balmy lava]

sure, but lets make it clear we are basing on other movies or shows

[scarlet nacelle]

bro just wanted his gold

[tough igloo]

davy jones in movies having a ship name flying dutchman, said to be king of the world , believed to be ruler of ancient kingdom .. i think Davy Jones Flying Dutchman was Pluton

[keen quiver]

Also likely evidence davy and imu fought

[indigo yacht]

Real shit dude was chill asf getting money

[keen quiver]

In some way

[hot cairn]

Shanks did tell him about the “great one”

[tough igloo]

and that’s why Teach is gonna get it

[balmy lava]

same shirts?

[tough igloo]

Pluton is his birthright

[trim lily]

i think those are just prisoner outfits lol

[keen quiver]

Davy would spit in the face of god

[formal wagon]

OMG vander decken disscussion

[scarlet nacelle]

the giants in here seem to be in prisoner outfits (also do you just have this image on standby?)

[keen quiver]

Same as teach would if given the chance

[hot cairn]

[formal wagon]

its been so long since i've seen people talk about him

[tough igloo]

yeah he probably got hit with the good ole domi reversi smh lol

[trim lily]

make sure to specify which decken

[tough igloo]

i’m so tired of that attack lol

[formal wagon]

i think og VD has been on all of my serious bingos since i started making them

[balmy lava]

I have everything on standby

[keen quiver]

Think for sure the story got warped in 800 years

[balmy lava]

https://tenor.com/view/eyebrow-hmm-gif-25634245

[formal wagon]

he's one of those mysteries im really excited about

[dapper tree]

Davey Jones, Joy Boy, and Vander I all fought Imu

[trim lily]

does this mean our vander decken will too

[dapper tree]

Yes

[keen quiver]

@tough igloo but the conflict with a god of some kind and a curse are consistent

[trim lily]

finally the vander decken rennaissance the people have been clamoring for

[dapper tree]

Unironically he'll be important

[formal wagon]

true

[harsh sinew]

Are they on the mural Oda have us

[formal wagon]

the v in vander stands for...

[trim lily]

valentines

[tough igloo]

maybe the void century was like a royal rumble everybody for themselves lol

Joyboy vs Davy vs Imu vs Lunarians vs Vander Decken

[keen quiver]

The mural isnt the gospel truth

[formal wagon]

the decken's ruled that island

[dapper tree]

[formal wagon]

that sounds bad actually, i mean vira

[dapper tree]

[keen quiver]

It's looking like the war was more complicated

[trim lily]

oh i forgot a new one piece academy chapter dropped

[tough igloo]

yeah cause i don’t think it was as simple as everybody against Imu .. i think Davy & Joyboy had beef with each other too and was fighting each other

[formal wagon]

will there be more novels

[trim lily]

one piece if oda was a good writer

[keen quiver]

Unwilling allies at best

[trim lily]

probably

[keen quiver]

Big bro teach

😭

[trim lily]

uhhh hack spinoff novel next

[formal wagon]

one piece spin off disscussion always makes me think about that french manga that was an OP rip that i never got around to actually reading

[balmy lava]

there is one idea I was playing around with lately. That the weapon Imu used to destroy Lulusia made a hole through the planet, and it won't fill in because the gravity has been all messed up. So the strawhats might get closer to the redline in the new world, and see a coupe of giant holes in the ocean, but these connect to Enes lobby and Lulusia.

[dapper tree]

It was a 4 player game. Imu, Vander, Davey, and Joyboy

[hot cairn]

It has only been used 2 times in the story lol

[tough igloo]

lol Koby slowly realizing he’s in the wrong timeline

[dapper tree]

Imu last one standing

But the game hasn't ended yet

[keen quiver]

Imu about to lose the game

😭

[tough igloo]

God Valley Davy Clan , Elbaf Giants , Rocks ::. it’s been used 3 times already in the same arc it was first introduced lol

and we ain’t done

Loki might be next

[keen quiver]

Davy and joyboy both had winning plans that formulated in luffy and teach 800 years later

[unkempt sable]

https://tenor.com/view/imu-imu-speed-imu-ishowspeed-speed-imu-ishowspeed-imu-gif-5082088216306763781

[keen quiver]

😭

[keen quiver]

"Don't know shit man"

😭

[scarlet nacelle]

do you guys think we'll ever learn more from the war god who originally held nidhogg's fruit

who was he? why did he fight nika

whats his deal

[unkempt sable]

Probably not one of those guys you hear about once never again like Bogard

[trim lily]

i still cant take this fully seriously, but after reading up on decken again i do think youre onto something

[tough igloo]

maybe Jarul (who acts clueless ) will drop some more lore as he commentates the events on elbaf lol

[trim lily]

kind of gives off domi reversi vibes...

[dapper tree]

Imu been winning for 800 years

[tough igloo]

for a giant who claims he doesn’t really know anything , Jarul sure knows a lot lol

[formal wagon]

jarul noland flahsback any day now

[dapper tree]

I'm on this train now

Vander 1 is important

[harsh sinew]

The maddness is domi reverse

[unkempt sable]

Tho we could see it when we get that 50 chapter Nika flashback

[formal wagon]

@sanjuan cow piece is real

[scarlet nacelle]

i mean he had to had some reason to fight nika?

[dapper tree]

TRUE

[trim lily]

i dont think he'll be that important but decent chance he'll play at least some role in the void century flashback

[dapper tree]

[dapper tree]

He is

[unkempt sable]

For shits and giggles

[scarlet nacelle]

unless he really WAS a war god through and through and did it for the love of the game

[keen quiver]

Forgot this gem

[formal wagon]

[unkempt sable]

Nika said his squirrel was trash so he had to square up

[formal wagon]

If thats real goda is back for real this time

[harsh sinew]

I think shanks will be why they win this time ngl

[tough igloo]

Jarul a couple chapters ago : yeah i don’t know anything about this DF

Jarul this chapter : “well yeah i know it’s the Nidhogg DF & it used to be used by a god of war , it transforms you into a colossal dragon depending on the users size “

HUH ?!

[formal wagon]

if oda had domi planned from FMI we're so back

[wraith mantle]

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[scarlet nacelle]

the sword lodged in his head prolly fucking with him

[hot cairn]

yeah why did Jarul said he didn’t know anything about the fruit lmao

[trim lily]

i was looking at a fmi chap for vander decken stuff and saw this

[formal wagon]

i want that sword to be a meitou so bad

[tough igloo]

😂😂 that sword gotta be messing him up

[unkempt sable]

He had to keep up his act

[trim lily]

luffy gassing up that one hody henchman lmao

[unkempt sable]

[hot cairn]

a what?

[formal wagon]

graded sword

aren't they called meitou in one piece

[hot cairn]

ah

[hot cairn]

Idk about swords

[formal wagon]

it being supreme grade would be hilarious

i think tcb called it a famous blade but viz didnt

[tough igloo]

who’s more likely to die this arc

• Jarul
• Kuma
• Dorry & Brogy
• Gaban
• any giant who’s a Mother

[trim lily]

make jarul's and greenbull's swords supreme grades

do it oda

[keen quiver]

Ngl baffling to me this man is so clueless for being 800 years old

[trim lily]

kuma dying would be extremely funny

[tough igloo]

lol Oda just dragging along his lifeless body

[dapper tree]

Imu doesn't get out much

Imu has been winning for 800 years

Things are now just going wrong

[keen quiver]

Winning so hard he's about to lose

[formal wagon]

dorry and broggy

[dapper tree]

Maybe a hiccup or 2 has happened

But thats about it

[scarlet nacelle]

hot take
loki as a character is good but his implementation into the story is contrived

the whole thing around him and nidhogg and prophecy and imu feels super shoehorned in and has had ZERO set up

[keen quiver]

Tbh

[trim lily]

well yeah it was only set up this arc

[keen quiver]

That happens every arc

If we being honest

[scarlet nacelle]

for a guy who gets constantly applauded for foreshadowing he really dropped the ball for loki

[dapper tree]

In his 800 year win streak, his only Ls started like last month

[keen quiver]

Wrong

His biggest L so far was god valley

[dapper tree]

Not wrong

Not really at all

[keen quiver]

About to receive another L

[dapper tree]

He didnt lose any thing in God valley

[keen quiver]

Let dragon and teach get away

[formal wagon]

the prophecy stuff feels a bit shoehorned but i think with the build up we've gotten for him, and the richie dream he feels like he's earned his spot to me

[keen quiver]

Which will cost him

Everything

[dapper tree]

That's not a loss

[trim lily]

they didnt even know who dragon was then lmao

[dapper tree]

Dragon was a nobody

[trim lily]

but yeah letting the davy child get away was an oversight

[keen quiver]

Shitty cover up job

[trim lily]

they didn’t account for kuma

[dapper tree]

Not even a bad job

[trim lily]

(saturns fault)

[keen quiver]

Pretty bad job

Nobody recognized teach either

[dapper tree]

Considering no one really knows about it

[indigo yacht]

This one isn’t even good slander

[keen quiver]

Man has the exact same face

[trim lily]

dragon would’ve died in prison if not for his dad

[indigo yacht]

There’s no Nordic mythology in one piece

[dapper tree]

Also true

[keen quiver]

This and the Saturn one aren't good slander

Since he dint even know about emeth

Till it was too late

[formal wagon]

well almost no one knew about it, and the people that did were terrified to speak about it. we only found out anything from magic memory bubbles and idek how tf loki knew any of that stuff.

[dapper tree]

But God valley wasnt an L in anyway.

[trim lily]

on the other hand, luffy calls some of his electric attacks thor

[formal wagon]

like have we actually heard anyone speak about god valley

[dapper tree]

Teach and Dragon doing something now. Don't make god valley an L retroactively

[keen quiver]

I think imu is gonna be screaming about how he fucked up. When teach rams his fist through their chest

😭

[scarlet nacelle]

not really. other important figures get establishment of who they are before their respective arcs. villains like BM, kaido, or doffy. or even non-villain characters like vegapunk.
no character is like loki in how they have this BIG AN IMPACT with this little set up

[dapper tree]

God valley was just another deleted island

[formal wagon]

well we got the lola stuff and the richie dream though

[trim lily]

i don’t think loki has had that big an impact yet

[keen quiver]

We already got told how strong loki was

So I wasn't really suprised

[scarlet nacelle]

the lola stuff was a passing mention in someone else's backstory. we knew he was prince of elbaf but thats it
and richie's dream is most definetely a coincidence

[keen quiver]

@scarlet nacelle

Not really passing

[scarlet nacelle]

no part of this mentions loki being stronger
it says the GIANTS AS A WHOLE were strong

[trim lily]

well she referred to the giants of elbaf here

not loki specifically lol

[keen quiver]

Read the 2nd one

[scarlet nacelle]

the fighting force of whats held to be the mightiest nation in the world

[indigo yacht]

Maybe Thor exists (Enel also has an attack called thor) in some mythos but it’s not Nordic in the context of the op world

[hot cairn]

richie dream?

[keen quiver]

The giants were a nice bonus to forces. But the real catch would have been marriage to loki.

[scarlet nacelle]

the second one only talks about the power bm would've gained
which still coincides with the idea of the focus being on the giant smilitary strength

[indigo yacht]

Luffy probably stole the attack name from Enel thinking on it

[scarlet nacelle]

no point does she explicitly say loki himself is the reason

[trim lily]

i’m going to be so pissed if we leave elbaf without seeing the lola loki flashback

[trim lily]

luffy being unoriginal yet again

[keen quiver]

Retroactively we can easily assume it was loki now

[formal wagon]

richie dreams of a red haired lion (represents shanks as well as richie himself) fighting a dragon that looks just like loki

[tough igloo]

i do think not letting Doffy come back and making him a. HK was a mistake .. a Conqueror on his own who’s talented enough to awaken his DF.. would’ve been one of your better assets .. now he’s against you

[trim lily]

when will his plagiarism end

[keen quiver]

So I don't see the problem really

Maybe its just a me thing

But it doesnt really bother me

[scarlet nacelle]

yea but we're talking about how it was set up for loki
and retroactivity doesn't mean anything in terms of that

[somber flare]

Doflamingo powerspike is comin

[trim lily]

doflamingo admiral level soon

[formal wagon]

heres a better image of it

ignore the fuck ass theory lines

[keen quiver]

We also got bubkis about bm outside that one appearance and the giant experiment. It took till her arc to get a solid picture of anything.

[formal wagon]

doffy is already > katakuri so that would be pretty wild

[tough igloo]

Doffy with the Deep Sea contract is better than 99% of the HKs they got now

[hot cairn]

you think Loki’s importance wasnt planned beforehand? Well that silhouette in WCI would support that lol

[balmy lava]

that is a rare sun symbol

[scarlet nacelle]

ok. but even if it was foreshadowing
foreshadowing and set up are different things
foreshadowing eludes to something soon to come. set up details the thing, explaining why it is noteworthy

[trim lily]

i hope someone asks oda about the wci silhouette in an sbs

[tough igloo]

i wonder if we’ll have a Donquixote HK who’s like Doffy cousin or something

[trim lily]

i just want to see what excuse he comes up with

[hot cairn]

yeah that’s also true, we’ve only seen his impact on Elbaph

[scarlet nacelle]

honestly no

[dapper tree]

Don't do this to me

[trim lily]

doflamingo is weaker than jack btw

[dapper tree]

Very true

Doffy sucks

[hot cairn]

that’s really funny

[dapper tree]

Jack would have solo'ed his whole crew

[tough igloo]

until sugar touches him lol

[trim lily]

he might lose to sugar

[tough igloo]

then we got a stuffed animal mammoth

[dapper tree]

Jack hakis it

[trim lily]

nope

[dapper tree]

[trim lily]

i forbid haki nullifying it

kaido would in fact lose to sugar

[tough igloo]

Jack haki stronger than Chinjao’s ? lol that’s a first

[dapper tree]

I unforbid it

[trim lily]

[trim lily]

its chinjao so maybe

[hot cairn]

Do you guys think the mural wasnt also something planned and something that Oda came up with this very arc?

[dapper tree]

Well yes, granted Jacl doesn't have coc

[rich hornet]

Sugar should be pirate king if Oda wasnt a hack

[tough igloo]

Chinjao made a post god valley Garp train to beat him 🤷🏾‍♂️

god valley was a lot of chinjao upscale lol

[dapper tree]

But that doesn't matter

[trim lily]

clearly you dont know about the theory of everyone in the previous generation just sucking

[dapper tree]

Chinjao was always peak strength back in the day

[tough igloo]

old chinjao was having conqueror haki clashes with Luffy

[hot cairn]

[tough igloo]

that’s better than anything jack has done haki wise

[trim lily]

has jack ever used haki actually

visibly at least

[dapper tree]

But Jack would just like 0 diff chinjao

[dapper tree]

No

[tough igloo]

we’re talking about Jack haki specifically

not if he would overpower chinajo other ways

[dapper tree]

I used to argue he had no haki ans was just a muscle powerhouse

[tough igloo]

Jack haki ain’t strong enough to break out of sugar DF based off what we’ve seen from him

[scarlet nacelle]

old or new chinjao?

[dapper tree]

I'm not doing that haki only nonsense and no other stats

[dapper tree]

Old

Prime chinjao was a whole other story

[formal wagon]

hmmm

[dapper tree]

Don't do it

[formal wagon]

i like to pretend jack doesnt exist

[trim lily]

so mean

[scarlet nacelle]

why did i call prime chinjao "new"

[dapper tree]

Well he's dead

[trim lily]

jack isnt dead

[dapper tree]

So he may as well not exist

[formal wagon]

thats crazy 😭 maha is alive though

[dapper tree]

He's dead

My son

[formal wagon]

maha fandom unite !!!

[trim lily]

oda forgot to show jack in the wano cover story but he'll be in the next one

[trim lily]

i thought this said mha at first

[formal wagon]

IT DIDNT

[dapper tree]

I also thought that

[scarlet nacelle]

he becomes an honorary satelitte

[dapper tree]

He's buried next to Moria

Rip the goat

[hot cairn]

that Yamato cover story is so funny

Oda just randomly drops that Moria is a Kozuki and ends it lmao

[dapper tree]

That's what Yamato was designed to do

[tough igloo]

funny enough , Jack is the only All Star who Vivre Card doesn’t even say he has haki 😂😂🤦🏾‍♂️

[dapper tree]

Give Moria background

[trim lily]

jack w he made it all the way to the top without even needing haki

[dapper tree]

It got confirmed later

[hot cairn]

Yamato’s sole existence was dropping lore

[dapper tree]

That's what I argued for years

[hot cairn]

Franky feat

[dapper tree]

Franky is now that guy

[tough igloo]

when lol

[dapper tree]

Bruh, idk i remember every yelling at me for telling me I was wrong

[dense rapids]

Luffy is in hybrid

Dark Nika is full zoan

[dapper tree]

An update to his vivre card

Just checked his wiki

And the reference

For his haki

[tawny panther]

orrrr the crazy old theory that Nika got split into 2 DFs because of the 2 different beliefs of him & the Dark Nika is another DF 👀🤔

[dense rapids]

So Blackbeard would be the erasure of the rubber

Since he stops powers

[dapper tree]

Everything bounces off luffy, everything hits BB harder

[tawny panther]

“ Nika was so strong nothing worked against him “

turned into Yami Yami negating DF abilities as one of its powers 👀

[dense rapids]

Og Nika didn’t have a beard

[balmy lava]

🌗 🌓

[grand rain]

And inspiring a whole new generation of cosplayers

[stone tulip]

It’s gonna set up Moria joining cross guild by revealing that he can read the poneglphys

[stone tulip]

That’s another reason why Yamato didn’t join the straw hats, cause we already have a straw hat who explains the lore anyways like Robin!

[formal wagon]

whats the word for when something is like by itself

[ruby moat]

isolated, solitary, remote

alone

do u need more

[honest garden]

The word is 'bartsky-like'

[ruby moat]

hey yeah can i talk to an admin a moderator is bullying me

altho it would be cool to have a word with my name in it

[hot cairn]

lol

[hot cairn]

cook

[formal wagon]

shit isolated was what i was thinking of but i used solitary, oh well. thanks though

[ruby moat]

🫡

[wraith mantle]

spoilers soon

hopefully next chapter is actually good

[ruby moat]

wdym actually good

was 1175 not good

i liked 1175..

[prisma yacht]

so

next chapter predictions pls

Imu pulls up uranus?

[trim lily]

imu doing something crazy and wacky to turn the tables is the cliffhanger for it

honestly its probably just domi reversi

unless loki has some magic resitance to it

[prisma yacht]

why do you think imu went back to mj

[trim lily]

i dont think they did

the shot at the end shows how imu does their sort of remote possession

[prisma yacht]

Hmm

[formal wagon]

damn been a while since iv'e seen people do predictions

idk if i can do serious ones

[hot cairn]

But this chapter was good

[formal wagon]

PREDICTIONS:

sommers regens
loki roars at imu or something
brook freaks out some more
usopp does nothing
Hajrudin complains about loki
Jarul dumps lore

[prisma yacht]

more lore

Hellyeah

@sleek plume @dense rapids yeah this is still imu

[stone tulip]

Either way Moria is joining the guild regardless along with Perona

[sleek plume]

interesting, i wonder why Oda decided to not draw the double ringed eyes here on Gunko if Imu was still taking over?

unless he just settles for this when the eyes are too small to draw them

[stone tulip]

Hard to guess considering from where we left off but I think we will get straw hats who got freed take action right now and as well as Franky and Brook status update, maybe something in the chapter that would reflect on OPLA season 2 color spread cause last time we had OPLA related color spread it was during the Koby chapter and we know that Koby had a lot focus on season 1 too.

[formal wagon]

moria/ perona might still be blackbeard's ticket to wano. We haven't actually seen that they escaped

also likely that moria will get a redesign since oda hid him on hachinosu

[stone tulip]

It was confirmed that they had escaped when Blackbeard scolded Pizarro for allowing them to leave.

[formal wagon]

ohhh okay my bad

[stone tulip]

Anyways speaking of OPLA there is new clip that got released btw.

I love Vivi but she didn’t move like this at all in actual story 😭😭😭

[formal wagon]

😔 it looks like CW action scenes

[hot cairn]

can Nami fly or something lmao

what was that jump

[muted hedge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/one-piece-karoo

[stone tulip]

@ornate tartan @glacial bear pinging you two for this

[stone tulip]

It’s one piece, characters had jumped higher than that before lol

[hot cairn]

the live action is kinda a CW show

[jade rain]

One thing I like about LA is that nami doesn't seem useless in fights at the beginning

[formal wagon]

whats the budget for this series again?

[hot cairn]

1 billion berries

[formal wagon]

okay i googled it its 18 million usd per episode

[hot cairn]

that’s a lot

8 episodes

[stone tulip]

Makes sense but sounds like making Nami being outclassed by Vivi of all people might be add more depth to her having Climatact

[formal wagon]

thats comparable to house of the dragon's 20 million per episode budget

[prisma yacht]

Ouu so this is why you said we might see vivi in this chapter

[formal wagon]

OPLA looks like a show with a 1.5 million dollar budget

[stone tulip]

Not specifically Vivi but something related to OPLA like Chopper or Dorry and Brogey if you get what I mean.

[prisma yacht]

Yeahh

[hot cairn]

this season def needs the budget ngl and things will just get crazier as well

[stone tulip]

But Vivi showing up in next chapter would be nuts though

[hot cairn]

I think it’s part of the charm

[stone tulip]

It looks good most of the time compared to other shows anyways and fight scene is huge improvement

[stone tulip]

I miss Karoo

[hot cairn]

they cut him from season 2

[stone tulip]

I meant in general

Including manga

Cause Oda shouldn’t have separated him from Vivi

Although his absent in season 2 is also an L but maybe he might show up in season 3

[stone tulip]

But seriously Vivi seemed far brutal in this cause she deadass almost killed Nami 😭

Oda better let Vivi have this energy when she fights again in the manga lmao

[glacial bear]

Thank you GOAT 🫂

[stone tulip]

No problem 👍

[stone terrace]

Theres genuinely no way they can turn a profit on a 150m budget

[jade rain]

Season 1 had around the same budget but it did turn profit for them

[still mason]

She popped her staff open and used it to propel herself upward (still wtf for me though)

[dense haven]

yall liked the chapter?

[keen quiver]

It was like an 8 action wise

No brook still is a bit crazy

[prisma idol]

Might rematch the LA since the next season comes out in 9 days

[keen quiver]

We rematching it together

We'll beat the LA

[prisma idol]

[keen quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/rb-world-4-rb-world-rbworld-rb-world-3-rb-world-2-gif-11063592377622979204

[urban epoch]

Reminder

The more Luffy laughs

The stronger he becomes

[stoic roost]

Don't forget Sanju might bark for robin or gunko

[opal pivot]

Shaq and afro Kobe is a crazy duo

[keen quiver]

Luffy and loki currently

[grand flower]

I wonder if that’s what Kaido said FD

[urban epoch]

Oda said that

In one of his notes

[grand flower]

Oh yeah

There’s a scene where Kaido starts that phrase

[urban epoch]

The more he laughs the stronger he becomes

It's in nature with his DF

[grand flower]

But doesnt finish it

[urban epoch]

Youre not wrong there

[grand flower]

Or rather, we don’t hear the rest of what he says

I wonder if it’s the rest we saw in Oda’s quote

Or if Oda went with something different

Was that one of the phrases that was scratched out?

[urban epoch]

Im not sure

Its in Odas road to Laugh Tale guide

Also I like his new attack

Twists his arm grabs lightning

And just brutally electrocutes his target

I knew the lightning grabbing thing wouldn't just be a gag against kaido

It actually got some good use now

[jade rain]

That was a legit attack, why would that be seen as a gag?

[unique lagoon]

cuz nika is always goofy also kaido simply dodged it

[urban epoch]

Because it pretty much didnt shit and Kaido dodged it

So ive view it as a gag

[sudden dock]

I wonder if sanji will awaken conqueror haki and advanced