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Yall are really traumatized by time travel 
as soon as time travel to the past is introduced shit gets bs
It can be good if the entire story is written around that concept
bro every work of fiction including it just fumbles everything
makes 2375239857343489753 plot holes
worst theories of all time are Joyboy possession and Luffy going back in time and being the actual Joyboy
The 2nd one I don't even take seriously tbh
yeah true, if the entire thing is about time travel then fine
BOTH will happen. Luffy possesses himself
That was was kinda really bad fopr weekly readers, everyone was going crazy
someone here does…
i like ocarina of time
ocarina of time was the last Zelda game i played
It was ridiculous, but it was just Archer and Spice pushing for it
but yeah, time dialation thing was never going to happen
Well Jesus
Ratatoskr is possessing Ragnir

i just hate time travel to the past because then you get people who are just like "repeatedly travel back until you win duh"
i'm so confused about this btw
Time travel is inherently a risky and convoluted trope. I think Oda handled it well in Wano
was Ratatoskr just an actual squirrel that became a fruit or was it a squirrel that ate the Ratatoskr fruit & then Ragnir ate the fruit in both scenarios or what
Me too like can you just reincarnate via mythical zoan?
If people believe in you
i hope Oda explains it
Looks at Marco
Ratatoskr fused with the war god's hammer
though i think it's more or less just the hammer eating the fruit of Ratatoskr
Ragnirdocking
I wonder if weekly readers got scared with that plot being introduced
It was an actual squirrel apparently, Ratatoskr, the hammer was another thing, then later we have Ragnir turning into Ratatoskr
Jarul said Ratatoskr later possessed Ragnir so it probably died, there was a fruit of it and it went into the hammer
that's what I was saying
That week was real bad
not as bad as the oden is back week but still bad
I never got the fuss
really? Lol
I thought you were talking about the 1043 cliffhanger
But that was in the flashback no?
We find out that they were sent to the future so people thought “oh fuck time travel”
Its not even really timetravel in the sense that it breaks space time continuum, its just time freeze
that took a long time in between
It was the chapter that ended with kinemon saying we are from the past
^
Yeah the chapter after Toki said it
So once again op fans cant just wait 1 chapter
They can't
The small flashback yes
Immediately after Kinemon said it
by the way do y'all think that Vegapunk was attempting to recreate Nidhogg specifically, or was it just dragons in general?
just whatever he could get
since i've seen a lot of posts who say that Vegapunk wanted to create Nidhogg, though i found no mention of it being specified as a specific dragon in the manga
He mightve had his hands in Elbaf
so
Ratatoskr the Ice Squirrel just existed
it somehow became a DF? VPs dreams/wish theory, maybe War God Giant wished for Ratatotskr to live again or something before he died?
Ragnir the Hammer later on somehow consumed the fruit
Yeah something like this, Ratatoskr seems to be a figure like Sun god or Nidhogg that people want to be or want to return so it became a devilfruit like them
or maybe its something like
Ratatoskr the Ice Squirrel just existed
it became gravely injured in battle
its soul was place inside of Ragnir to "save it"
Or that but the transformation seems devilfruit like in my eyes
The Nightmares running from Loki was pretty funny
i think that Ratatoskr was alive, then his spirit passed into a fruit which was later eaten by the hammer
the nightmares having a type of free will and emotions is a funny thing
Im wondering if zoans are based on 1 specific animal or the whole species
Like the giraffe fruit Kaku ate, is it based on every giraffe or that one giraffe that existed
Because Ratatoskr is that one squirrel. Is this the difference between regular and mythical zoans?
Real Nidhogg vs Nidhogg from Temu 
Imagine if this is how devil fruit weapons are explained and not during the vegapunk arc
what if this ties back to the trees with Noland, iirc wasn't it said their "ancestors" inhabited the trees, what if Ratatoskr inhabited the Adam tree & in birthed a DF
interesting that the horns are reversed
Just cuz lokis horns are probably
i wonder if the old god of war had a different set of horns as he transformed
lillith just goes "oh yeah i based my findings off the story of ragnir"
That would be very funny
So does Ragnir have lightning powers too
i would assume so
Considering Loki summoned lightning while chained
Oda forgor
It also is “Iron Thunder”
weird how the nightmare machinations can feel emotions
I think its ragnir
maybe Ragnir had the lightning powers, Ratatoskr has the ice powers
nightmare creatures are people too
The one ironclad rule in this series is seastone nullifies df powers
i could see Ragnir being enchanted way before Ratatoskr possessed it
Nidhogg is the lightning dragon though
Ye that’s what I assumed
maybe some Elbaphian echantment of lightning
Ragnir stand-alone has lightning
well he had seastone on him so he couldnt have
yeah, but Ragnir caused the lightning strike as Loki was in sea stone
Ragnir might have something other than lightning & ice
Ratatoskr granted it ice powers
well... if you're like me then you subscribe to the "to truly block 100% of an ancient Giants DF you need shit tons of seastone" then its fine, 1 chain isn't enough
also like Sanjuan walks through the ocean
x3 the size of Loki sure but still
didn't Loki say that his powers are hindered even by the 1 chain
im lost
I think ragnir is basically a big battery
he definitely could, based on that lightning strike from Ragnir
the god of war charged it with lightning by fighting
Kaido’s design really is one of one
He even says "you think 1 is enough?"
& then he does another lightning strike & sets fire to the tree
he probably just uses Ragnir as a way to channel his powers
yeah Ice is 100% Ratatoskr
Ragnir could still be imbued with powers for a third element though
some sort of Mjolnir type shit
i wouldn't be against that
maybe some of the hammer-warriors who are frozen, were essentialy the blacksmiths
wont say impossible
Great
"remove that location over there"
remove east
same vibes
lokis dragon breath vs kaidos boro breath who wins
i wonder if Kaido knew about Loki
one would think he did, given Xebec was buds with Harald
Kaido went to find Loki when he heard he went to sea, then he got humbled & thats why he says DFs & shit, haki transcends all
loki is is the strongest creature
Imu maybe but not gunko imu
i agree, but i also dont see imu struggling
elbaf will fail tho
like, imu's first fight wether over wifi or physically has to be a domination
nigga still holding onto the raid will fail joke 💔
I'm so glad that Oda knows what a western Dragon actually looks like & gave Loki 4 legs
Too many works use "Dragon" & then show a Wyvern
we already got one back in punk hazard
True
his first fight will be against dragon
and what you say is true
Imu gunko just getting the boot
dont mind gunko getting merked
I really feel bad about Imu taking an L here as their first real showing but idk how i can argue for it anymore
but imu's aura must remain intact
Loki looks fucking insane
Gv was his first fight and he did show domination
Sometimes i wanna share stuff from twitter but see a blue checkmark and dont do it
neg diffed by shanks btw
They're pirates, they don't play by the rules
that’s just not true
We learned this in chapter 1
He ain't bb, when oda says he is defeated by shanks i assume it's 1v1 but if it's bb it's jump piece
ppl really think oda is gonna draw shanks fighting another pirate with bonk punch lucky roo and hongo😂😂
How tf is Shanks beating this, come on
the goats? sure
Whats next? Transformation blocker haki
On top of obs killer
And wifi haki
Also is it really a 1v1 if Loki uses Ragnir
Loki probably fought him in his hybrid form and shanks just has stronger haki ig
shanks is simply HIM
however the fight went, it wouldn't be easy for either of them
Shanks is simply stupid
Wily from the top rope
It won't be kidd 2.0 for sure 
When people mention Shanks. Theres a 50% chance I come in and be a hater
Morj has different hair every time i see him
i dont even hate Shanks as much as it may sound like i do
Me either I just hope he dies
i just dont see how he beats Loki in a 1v1 without some knew random haki ability or some shit
oh BB victim is 100% a BB victim
Yea its not hate at all i just think thats the best direction to go
Shanks wouldnt be a coward because he ran it would be because he did something dirty to win
I dont either
It was an 8 year gap between him beating harald and fighting shanks so shanks obviously got a lot stronger
i used to be silly & think that Shanks vs Luffy would be a Davy Back but then i grew up & realised he's gonna die before they meet again
Its just fun to pick on someone my size
I mean that's pirate shit
loki comment was purely ragebait
But i still think he cheated
the panel literally proves it
Yea
But loki doesnt have to take it that way
so would have Loki
8 years to master his fruit
Yea Loki is a warrior he would definitely look down on the use of any trick
and learn to fight with Ragnir/Ratatoskr
shanks has a higher growth rate and pulled ahead
Whereas pirate Shanks let us know from day one, ain't no fair ones on the sea
idk if loki would start crying about dirty tactics
like grow a pair
sees how much luffy is cheesing about shanks, grins then says it😂
he was with Shamrock
& Gunko
dirty tactics? grow a pair?
Shanks can grow a new pair of arms!
Shanks talk no haki'd Loki into coming back to Elbaf & being chained up for 6 years to wait for Luffy
I think the cross symbol is connected to the moon people while the sun symbol is for the ancient kingdom
shouldn't have gotten caught ig
his brothers dirty tactics got him caught smh
People of the moon
People of the half moon
& then this other red headed mfer comes along with more dirty tactics
No shot
that excuse was already use for kaido
get a new one
I think if shanks started to lose a fight his crew isnt just gonna watch it happen
definitely not
ehh ig loki should've gathered a crew too
skill issue honestly
you dont have to be cowardly to use dirty tactics
Lola was ruthless


who cares what kaido says he's a certified yapper
what dirty tactics would even work against loki
Jumping
Kaido just regurgitates what he saw on reddit
who knows, so use them all
shanks having loki drink 50 gallons of poison he purchased from his pal magallan
Probably using Tokis powers
Send him to the heat death of the universe 
Maybe they took ragnir hostage 😂
Since shanks has no df users it would be smart to abuse seastone
Ragnir might be able to 1v1 all of Shanks crew
naw
Harald couldn't beat him
Ragnir is top 3 alive
or shanks is the eagle from norse mythology so ragnir refused to help
just behind baby loki
Type shit
shit
Ragnir was fighting Nika himself they’re fodder
Nika upscale
the fact Nika could hold his own against THEE Ragnir is impressive icl
everyone was way weaker back then
you right
Nika kinda that guy
this is my favourite interpretation
1v1ing Ragnir & some chump using his clout to call himself "War God"
imu and ragnir weren’t strong everyone just sucked back then
Niggas was not going for no bullshit look at bro he ten toes down
why does it look like he's going for Ratatoskr too 
and you can see how nika is focused on ragnir
And lil bro still aint worried
Pre Hammer Merge btw
there's a reason ragnir is still here
Joyboy hated that fucking rat, and rightfully so
and you know who isn't
this could have been Chopper
Ratatoskr #1 threat in OP
Nika but prio on him over Imu
has rival status
have we seen Blackbeard use any nika like symbols? Like the cross or sun shield?
Imu is just some kid who's obsessed
not that i know of
still kind of funny rocks was aware of imu and all that but had no clue who nika was
the only sun I have seen Blackbeard use is the kind of evil one (connections to AXIS powers.)
it's just the buckteeth. people hate buckteeth
racist!
Sunbell shouldve spit some game
against Squirrels
fucking Nika the racist, i cant believe it
Love squirrels
Got to design an experiment for them for my ecology and evolution course
Poor squirrel 😢
You were attaching bionics and shit to it 
I wish
But more introducing them to cinnamon toast crunch
Theyre all probably dead by now but thats a high they chased for the rest of their short lives

War God of War Land
Ganfall trying to argue but
He didnt question calling the leader of the country God?
Dumbass
Enel is lucky he has the shield of probably being well written
If he was like Kuro I would tear him apart more
Im always rooting for Enel
if Luffy wasn't made of rubber...
I think he deserves to flex as much as he did prior to be domed by Luffy
oh my, seems I stumbled in here just in time for an "uhm akshually"
the title of "god" and "king" or ruler or whatever has historically been completely interchangable
I want Enel to return
same
I want Enel to return and join someone or something with that man or thing
what if enel joins imu's side tho 
i don't think Eneru is physically able to be underneath anyone
I'm only allowing Enel to return
his god complex won't allow it
Under the condition he's violently one shot
Well he better change
Doesnt matter who does it tho
Hes not in kansas anymore
Enel has a lot of backbone
Loki already showing off better lightning feats than him
maybe the low gravity made his bones brittle
enel teams up with luffy cause they are fellow gods
he's been listening in to every conversation on the planet
Last time that happened, he had to be beaten into submission by Luffy with a well placed Gum Gum to the face
Physically underneath someone, like on the ground after getting jumped? Aye. Serving someone else...?
Nah
serving someone else i mean
Eneru isn't physically able to be underneath anyones command other than his own
hmm, is he the scheming kinda guy tho? tricking imu?
ofc enel cant be under anyone since he's at the highest place in the world
Yknow Enel is in a higher plane than Imu is.
wait does imu know abput enel? 
maybe he's squatting in imu's old place
Rocks is fire scar
Aint even know about nidhogg
So glue
I really can't decide whether that's an imu L or an oda L
Neither, he's not supposed to be omniscient
he can't even read his own slaves' minds
I know it's a meme but from what we've seen enel is literally a lot more "omniscient" than imu
in space, no one can hear enel cry
except his army of tiny robomen 
Did anyone here call Nidhog?
yes
Who
i don't remember who but ive seen it mentioned many times even before we saw dragon form
same
a lot of people said Nidhogg lol
what about Urouge
it was only a handful of choices to pick from with the norse myth
by who
people went from Fenrir, Garmr and Nidhogg basically
oh, Jormangundr too
and Surtr
im very happy with the color
I went for ratatoskr way back, but that was wrong
Who has the worst silhouette compared to what they actually look like
Kaido
jinbei/moria
probably
The warlords as a whole
the warlords looked sick
Their first silhouette was a bunch of Mihawks
Kaido or Big Mom or Loki
this one is accurate
Im seeing a lot of crying about one pace episode 1015
I wholeheartedly believe they were what the holy knights were supposed to be originally
Just enjoy your toeislop!
I wonder if Oda is ever going to mention Loki/Lola again
what went down there?
When nami talks with Loki after the fighting
They cut a lot of the extra stuff, yk cuz thats their entire purpose
did they cut a lot of the episode?
Like the luffy yamato thing
that whole episode is cinema
1015 with less Yamato? Sounds like heaven
so people are upset that a format of One Piece that is meant to reduce filler, is reducing filler
Some filler can be good tho
Like g8
sure, though if you like the filler why would you watch One Pace, lol
i'm sure that people knew beforehand what it was meant to be
Because you don’t want to deal with the unnecessary filler, you want the filler that actually add something
G8 is only good because it follows skypeia, so you're used to shit
woa woa woa now
not a silhouette, but honorable mention
Skypiea isn’t shit
that's literally impossible given what's good and bad filler is subjective
in the anime it is
skypeia is ok in the manga
skypeia is good but recently ppl have been rating it higher then it should just because of g5
You’re going to sit here and tell me that the 5 minutes reaction shots are better than the extended sequence of luffy vs kizaru

Skypiea is peak in the manga
I'm lukewarm on it
Whiskey Peak is peak in the 4kids dub
no, i'm telling you that if you want to watch the filler, watch the toei anime
one pace is meant to reduce said filler
hence it's dumb for people to cry about it, when they know what they're getting into
actually I'd argue 4kids reverse mountain is better than toei reverse mountain
one piece has one of the smallest amounts of filler for a shonen anime
that too
Bc its baked into the episodes
shouldnt be what One Pace is meant to remove padding and not filler?
Thats arguably much worse
Thats a pretty significant difference
But they follow the law of equivalent exchange so they have terrible pacing
but reverse mountain is my lowest ranked arc
where's the main place yall read the manga
That iceberg… chills… 
what are your top 5 OP arcs?
mangaplus
id put whiskey peak lower, but hey thats just me
mangaplus/viz
and tcb
weeb central
cubari, manga plus and weebcentral
Idk what’s my least favorite OP arc
maybe syrup village?
i'm inclined to say that my least favorite is punk hazard
hm.... in no particular order: I like water 7, enies lobby, Impel down, Egghead, aaaaand... I'll leave the 5th spot open for now I think
maybe sabaody? I'm not sure
punk Hazard used to be mine too but it has grown up on me because of all the set up it had
noice
punk hazard cannot be hated, we got all them body swaps, that alone is better than syrup village imo
through the little hole i made in odas wall.
i disagree
i think the body swaps were very meh
Punk Hazard is kinda of boring if you’re not interested in Law
which I’m not
i hate PH for character assassinating Smoker
the body swap would’ve been funny if it wasnt for Sanji
in what way
he really carried it over from FM to PH
Oda only did it as an excuse to put Sanji in Nami's body too
at home
it's actually funny how the sanji body swap was so shit, yet smoker and tashigi worked so well for me at least
sure, though i still think it's meh
i guess i don't like the body swaps gimmick
franky and chopper one was funny
Oh and Smoker in Tashigi's
with robins reaction
and the funniest joke in all of that chaos was franky in chopper and robin's reaction
my least favorite arc is punk hazard
least favorite flashback is god valley
yeah, but that one I actually think works. because smoker just doesn't give a shit
damn you can only read OP chapters once on it
latest 3
ye
Yeah he's not actively being a creep like Sanji but it was still done for the sake of the fan service
yeah deadass that’s probably literally the only reason he did it
It was worse in FMI at least it wasnt every time he was in a panel
for sure, but I'm not totally against fan service as long as it's funny
ah yeah the Smoker and Tashigi one wasnt bad
Yeah it's not inherently bad, I just think Oda does the bad kind most often
he can't help it
but idk, the body swap would’ve been better if Oda actually wanted to do something with it besides gags
also remember Kid spying on them, lol
I don’t think Punk Hazard is bad but it’s kinda boring for me
but it’s basically a set up arc
anime punk hazard was actual torture
- Law
this might be controversial, but punk hazard would have been better if Oda dropped the junkie kids plotline
check weebcentral, it’s a good page after comick went down
thriller bark is worse than punk hazard
Punk Hazard is too long
i kinda agree to be honest
my favorite recent chapters are 1166 1167 1171 and this most recent chapter
it is somewhat important to later stuff in the series, but it was just really boring
I can imagine, if even the manga version was kinda boring i couldn’t imagine how it is in the anime
yeah very much so, it could've been wrapped up a lot faster too
I wasnt a fan of the kids plotline either
It was boring
i would've liked it more if oda dropped more DF lore in PH
nahhhh thriller bark has the better moments and it’s actually hilarious
I think so yeah like 50-60
what lore did we get on Punk Hazard?
i don't remember all of it
Sakazuki and Aokiji's impact on the island was very cool
what do you think of the kids plotline in Elbaph?
it's working for now.
Cant judge PH before Galleila is freed
this is cool too
it looks like it’s over too
Oda has been very efficient with it, and gave some great sommers moments
oh shit thank you
Elbaph going back to this is peak ngl
hopefully we'll see them be released
why not?
Kinemon, momo, the frozen giants, and the simile fruits
yep, agreed
think that’ll probably happen closer to the final war
watch Loki just smack them with Ragnir as the ice cracks around them and they walk out, lol
We didn’t get lore per se
The arc that we got bombarded with lore was Zou
I love Zou
Zou was neat
lol, reminds me of some other series
rumbling
oof
I was watching some people watch Zou in the anime and went back to the manga and it’s surprising how much gets revealed that arc
more like they fall to the ground, long dead due to suffocating in the ice.
yeah, it went by so fast too
not a lot of time to process what was revealed lol
ouf. I tried rewatching the anime at some point, and decided to skip dressrosa and go straight to zou.
zou was painful to watch
made me give up the rewatch
damn
I call it a rewatch, but I had only read the manga
i gave up on the anime mid Dressrosa, so i never watched Zou
the anime is always slow but during the post time skip is on a different level…
damn
why??
He said it was boring and he watched a recap
dawg lmao
"man, I wish this story was longer, and that there was more one piece"
gets song about cat viper, and the straw hats fighting bees
Thriller Bark is overhated
Just found a cool detail
that bee shit was ridiculous 
If the first world ended year 2600 of age of heaven
That connects with Loki’s 2,600,000 bounty and his fruit causing th3 destruction of the first world
the worst part was momo spending an entire episode giving the elephant the command to attack
Age of sea circle started during the year 2600
so, the fruit can't be the reason for why the special bounty
as Imu didn't know of it until now
I’m not saying that
i know
wait... nidhog is pronounced need hog in norwegian... need hog... Lola????
i'm glad that Absalom is no more
@dense pike
insane man, the anime is truly unwatchable
i'm glad that it has become a lot better
when is it Vivi time
I'm very smart
All the time
First World - ???
Second World - AoH Year 2600/AoSC Year 0
Third World - AoH Year 3341/ AoSC Year 741
First world if it’s based in AoH means it started 4141 years ago
From Loki we know its existed for 10s of thousands of years
So there’s one world erasure we don’t know about
There’s a world before the first
🤦🏾♂️ and so it begins …. smh
yawn
l-o-l
Smh it just had to be a mutual of mine💔
is this what being a Mihawk fan is all about ? lol seems miserable
Don’t let a shanks fan see haki
Soon, maybe next chapter, maybe end of the arc, or maybe even next arc.
Either way 2026 or 2027 is her year trust.
I don’t think black sword is related to conquerors but rather Armament 💀
Also checking the chapter again I noticed Imu no longer fights Brook
Brook is MIA and Franky was never seen since the flashback had ended.
Yeah, Brook died 2 chapters ago. It was just off-screen. Now, we can finally focus on Usopp.
Brook is already dead
yoooooohohohohoho
Wait until that guy hears about Zoro vs Monet

even after Mihawk & Shanks lose in the story , their stans will still be fighting for upscales from other characters
But seriously last time we saw Franky was with Ripley right ? But after the flashback he is nowhere to be seen and the same with Lilith and Bonney
Sounds like that one manga
He's still at the robot with Lilith and bonney
Was Franky last seen at the 3,000-year old factory?
Yeah but is he still there or not ?
an ancient robot will save the day again
Yes, he never left
Or better yet Battle Franky 39
Only Ripley left
I suppose and he was seen fighting MMA too
He was last seen fighting with MMA
And that’s it
mma?
Wonder if Oda is saving him for something important
Dream monsters
what does mma stand for? i've yet to see that acronym utilized.
need Kuma to come back to us & hit Imu with one of these ..
LOL Kuma is still barely hanging on to life. i forget he's still just lying around
lol right .. Oda can’t have a Buccaneer sidelined the entire time in the Land of the Giants .. he’s part giant
This is what I found
Ripley is about to fall under the mom curse
So, in the Japanese they called them MMA?
I feel like all of us are looking over Killingham
they are called Muma in Japanese
Oda hasn't focused on him too much. more his dream monsters
His abilities should be connected to how DFs were created not literally but like a parallel
So is MMA something that only the wiki is assuming?
First dream fruit we’ve seen
then its impossible you remember bonney was in this arc right
i kind of did forget she was here. she kind of just stopped being shown much
I think MMA is a tcb thing
i must not have paid it much attention. i just call them dream monsters mostly. mma sounds dumb to me
plus easy to confuse it with real world MMA
Yeah I call them dream monsters too lol
Killingham will be defeated by God Usopp
Zoro, Sanji, Luffy, & Loki are too busy going after the strongest god knight, Saint Sommers
i like how, 800 years later, Imu is just like "huh, so it was here."
Usopp will be a Killingham power boost because the kids no longer fear their nightmares
Sommers is already knocked out
Sommers didn’t hear the bell ring
His vines disappeared
lot of people will be surprised when bonney andl lilith suddenly appear 
i do remember lilith has the new VP model with her with that goofy coffin
He heard a lightning punch to the face though
Random thought
He still said Nika isn’t real afterwards
But what if Joy Boy was crucified like how they do CDs
My goat
plz no. i don't need any other christ metaphors
I fear we’ve been past that 😭
Sommers has a sword. What if it was him in that panel of top contenders for the One Piece 
jesus is boring. find another god and/or savior in history to utilize, oda.
I thought it was a club
Well more like Muma
He elongates his sword into a big spiky club
but then again norse myth is boring and overused at this point
You're boring and overused!
you're right.....
SIKE
fuck you i'm cool and original
She is getting the Carrot treatment being background character but at least her character had satisfying conclusion lol
Sommers should make Elbaph into a forest of thorns and unleash a Thorn Monster the size of Nidhogg
Yasuie was crucified“smiling”
Joy boy was crucified
Sanji will burn it all anyways
vivi clears
Literally Sanji is greatest counter to Sommars
She is rejoining anytime soon
Although it would be so funny the moment I go spoiler free only for Vivi to actually show up next chapter lmao, imagine that
idk about the island but we gonna see her this arc
Could be end of the arc or immediately next arc, either way high chance it’s new year cause of great encounters
THIS DEMON WILL BE UNLEASHED 
the middle-end of the year one piece chapters gonna go crazy
Speaking of Vivi, next week we should be getting new color spreads for OPLA
I assume its spelled out MMA in the raws and then the "Muma" in Japanese is superimposed over it
New Vivi art from Oda soon yipe
next chapter with imu finally taking action against luffy and loki might be peak
we'll see
Imu true devil form next chapter on double break week 
Yeah Elbaf is already intense right now and it’s gonna escalate even more
We should be getting the sbs before next chapter releases as well
Gonna be a packed week
Buggy
I wonder if anyone sent in a question asking why rocks and buggy do the same poses
I have question
Yo
He makes mochi
the sbs coming out tmrw
there will be one rocks related question for sure whether its serious or not i don't dare to guess 
Really?
should be sometime tmrw
I am at ep 50
I think it’s focused on the rocks pirates
It’s the rocks volume
Does he make motchi not curry?
Both
Is episode 50 much?
im crine no one told me pearl was getting upscaled
I watch onepace is onepace good?
i hope he talks at least about rocks age in god valley or bounty
Pearl wanted to be the Sun God 
Holy spoiler😭
about the admiral he killed i know he ain't answering that 
Bro aint him🙏
I could see him answering and giving a epithet
“Yea he killed grey rat”
Buggy what episode are you?
yeah he killed white rabbit
Guys luffy killed 1 person who was it?
sanji
^
unless u want to get spoiled
xD
I am at the escape with big moms cake
Here hunger pangs
And whole cake is so boring
Not really boring but ig slow
wedding cake
Im really excited to see gear 5 over 200 ep😭
Yeah that
With sanji and puding
And germa DOUBLEEE SIXXXX
https://x.com/buggy/status/2027857711199613237?s=46
bro be remembering everything😂
That is too much reading for me
i'd tell you to try one pace but today i saw one thing they did that felt a bit like a crime
NAHH
Nika has not awakened her Devil Fruit ????
I aint gonma try onepace
@dense rapids how u get year 2600
Why skip fillers the are amazing😭
4141-1521
Age of Sea Circle is only 1521 years
that is a crazy coincidence
"Casual readers have probably forgotten those even exist."
Yep, I sure have.
👋
Probably is the actual Nika
I think it’s intentional
First world ended year 2600 of age of Heaven
The year the red line formed I guess
I know it's the original nika, but I find it strange that he didn't wake him up.
OK, I just forgot. ez. gg. Goda.
I wonder what 4141 means
Odd number to choose
Alabasta palace was only built like 110 years after the age of Heaven began
is it?
read the manga, it’s way better
My bad 1541
i think he did it for the gomu thing but its interesting
The fact that there’s an age before the age of Heaven that we know don’t know of is crazy
the final timeline of one piece when its all over is gonna be so insane
when we know everything
It would go
Age of Dinosaurs - 10,000,0000+ years ago
Age of ??? -
Age of Heaven - 4141 years ago
I was like how does little island work, because no way after millions of years that is still uneffected...unless its basically a jurassic park situation
which I can see. Grand line could have been experimental areas set up 5000 years ago
it's a pre-ts situation probably long before Oda had everything figured out. But he may set up everything so that retroactively Little Garden makes sense.
maybe, but he has dinosaurs and giants, which are important pieces
we’re probably not going to find out about everything in the OP world tbf
there’s just too much stuff and Oda is becoming an old man
a lot of things will be missed
and its comprehensible cause he ain't taking 20 more years
buggy, dont you need a void Gen?
Huh
huh
Romeo does not exist!!
did the sbs come out?
I heard tomorrow
i see
the volume officially comes out tomorrow i think, i guess leakers didnt bother
Yeah the upcoming week is hella packed, which is funny cause my birthday is around that time too.
Thanks but it’s not my birthday yet
But next week it is
happy week before your birthday
Leakers always posts sbs when the volume is out
Especially when it won’t get translated until way later
Thank you
i see
Actually it turns out that volume 114 won’t be released until this upcoming Wednesday
But we may get sbs far earlier I suppose
Elbaf looks like franky
wdym
Tbh black beard messed up he should of ate loki fruit and sanjuans
youre saying this as if Vinsmoke Romeo wasnt real?
The way the depict god if war elbaf looks like franky
huh?
that'd be dope
though after garp throwing him MID AIR i feel like size just doesn't matter whatsoever
Lokis old fruit user was the god of war right ?
yes
What panel are you referring to
But for what ever reason lokis fruit supposed to be stronger with your size?
we've got a lot of mythical df currently
we have like some
Mythical is the new coc
but what are you saying, god of war looks like franky?
the era of haki is over
Yeah in the panel they showed em
devil fruits were always true power
can we go back to the era of just physical stats
Oda just needed to nef em to make em relevant again later when they end up beating the nerd ( awakening )
Like we learned haki to deal with like kizaru and Karabou
Lol
is it just me not seeing it at all
just realized oda has the chance to say nika only beat the previous nidhogg because he was conveniently immune to lightning to upscale loki again

LOL
In all fairness ratotoskr wasnt a weapon yet
no haki?
They can have haki, but if lightning is a huge part of your kit, it being nullified can mean you lose a battle you wouldnt normally lose
do more people say that?
its like if akainu fights a dude whos immune to magma, yes he can still use haki but thats a big nerf
haki immunity
new bit? its march 1st
happy april fools day🥳
another thought: the previous user of the Nidhogg fruit was an ancient giant and Imu didnt think it was in elbaf?
like if he never went to retrieve it cuz the forces there were too strong, sure. But youd think if youve got intel of so many other places, and the previous user was an ancient giant, the fruit probably would be in elbaf
imu might've not known the previous user
Who's the big guy on the right? Barbel?
Ye
I think its unlikely Imu didnt know the previous user. He knew of Nidhogg enough to be thinking about where it has been
Maybe imu didnt know, but I find that hard to believe
maybe he knew that nidhogg the creature existed at some point but nothing else
Imu has 0 in points in investigation
Closer to Usopp’s beard tbh
I think thats unlikely
if the gow fought the og nika it would make sense imu didn't know him
Imu very well may have been around when nika was around too. This is getting into speculative territory, but regardless yes there is a world where somehow imu didnt know about the user of Nidhogg.
Im saying that scenario is unlikely
Thats not the kind of knowledge I think the around 1000 year old final villain wouldnt be aware of
I think it's just as likely that imu didn't know as it is that he did
but at the same time from imu's perspective the location of the fruit (if he even knew it was a fruit) was very likely not known by anyone as anyone that found it would want to eat it and expose themselves
especially people like the elbaf giants
if you know that the previous user was an ancient giant, you know youve never seen it since, but also you have access to almost every other island in the world, I think your best guess would be that it is in elbaf
if you think somehow its a 50/50 shot that imu did or didnt know the previous user was a giant sure , but I dont see it
we dont even know what the world looked like back when the og user lived
Im aware
I still think its unlikely
you can bring in whatever specific scenarios where maybe imu didnt know, Im saying those are unlikely
Well rn I think the guy lived during the first world and as far as I know imu was born during the second so there's long enough time between them that the information could've easily been lost
Please I don't feel like hearing the usopp haters they ant ready for that
I could say how that's definitely usopp at the end of onepeice
But than the usopp haters will come falling out
I think its unlikely Imu wouldnt know that, even if they were born after, thats not the kind of info that seems inherently so secretive in the world that imu couldnt find out
I see it
doesn't have to be secretive. simply forgotten and lost in the sands of time
I think it's inevitable
What was?
I dont think Imu would not be able to find out that information if its not particularly secretive
there might not be any records of it
clearly people know of it
well the giants do cause they live so long
I’m certain he definitely knew about it. If we think the big demon on the left of the Harley is Imu, Nidhogg is on the Harley
imu has lived longer than them
but his ancestors didnt
jaruls grandparents probably lived during the void century
first you dont know that imus parents werent in this first world, for all we know imu was born in the first world
imu was alive during the void century, its the same thing
and the giants also didn't forget as they worship the guy
imu and his family might not have
maybe imu is one of the devils inside the fruits
I see Imu that is more like a tick sucking life energy from the Eve tree.
I still want to know how the D fit into all of this
I think they’re talking about how weird it is that Imu didn’t know the Nidhogg was in Elbaph
Everything about Imu lately makes him seem like a Dark Nika
likely stands for the name of the kingdom
Why would he
DFs can spawn anywhere
We dont know the last time the DF was used. Its possible its been 4000 years
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Do we ?
Nvm I read that wrong
Idk, Laww is the one saying that he should
It’s very likely imu wasn’t in the first world though
its possible Imu is a bit like venom. somebody born during the void century, but found/contacted something buried and ancient.
There was a discussion like that in spoilers that didn’t make sense either
The first and second world are likely 1000 years apart
That Imu should know because he’s smart
And it’s heavily implied imu was apart of the 20 families
Ngl this is kinda a guess
there was a name that was similar.
Imu nerona
It’s pretty much said Davy was the king of the world before imu
also maybe the angel near the maybe noah is a seraphim
do they have white wings?
no but theyre the only other angel like thing we got
I am going with sky people on that one
luffy isnt pitch black like nika
Man marked by flames ship
Isn’t that zunesha
why would ju peter be there but not any of the other 4
the lunarian wings seem much larger in the mural
Not Noah
he's #1 hes the most important
Why is BB the moon
?s are the more speculatey ones. hes associated with the moon
uranus is likely top left, where we see the rain coming down
Why would jupeter be part of the first world
And I don’t think that one is Blackbeard
i think its more likely jormungandr
Only parts I disagree with lowkey
who is jormungandr?
i know who it is like in a mythology sense
but who in one piece
Thats the red serpent
Fr
the Red Line
I just realised
i dont think its literally jupeter i think jupeter may be in the image of this hisotrical first war wg aligned worm
It will come out of red line
Will we have to do a first world flashback
Then a second world & void century flashback
This is gonna turn out to be Teach
Or will it all happen at once
three devil fruits buzzing around his head, yeah
still no idea for the wolf
thinking on it though the whale is probably fishmen>?
jinbe summons whales
It looks too similar to that transformation imu had vs sabo
World united to bring him down
Oh I know
Looks like Imu
Ig it could work if bb takes imus power
Laboon
I can’t wait to see what Blackbeard does
Everything he’s been doing has been done with the ulterior motive of taking out imu
dies
mechanical city could maybe be pluton? Or just a representation of the ancient kingdom
Including both of his fruits
Wants to be king of the world
I wonder what his play with ratifying Pirate Island will be
the easy answer is a trip to marijoa
BB is doomed to fail. He has 2 opponents to overcome and both of them are protected by plot
Via the reverie right
arent there oaths associated with the empty throne?




