also-manga

[royal orchid]

you don't trust the protagonist to handle the magic apple powers smh

[rich hornet]

You know it just made sense

[dense rapids]

Like people couldn’t believe Luffy had a fake DF name

[hot cairn]

Pringles and Burst were pushing that like crazy

[dense rapids]

I was a shanks twin believer since Marineford

Even though that didn’t turn out to be the reason

[hot cairn]

I hated that shit

[pseudo gulch]

Pringles 🕊️ and Burst 🕊️

[hot cairn]

Archer and Spice

[hot cairn]

I miss Burst

[pseudo gulch]

Archer 🕊️ and Spice 🕊️ (soon hopefully)

[hot cairn]

I still talk to him

[pseudo gulch]

Same, he was pretty unhinged sometimes

[pseudo gulch]

Is he still a heavy Tashigi fan

[hot cairn]

I was so against it at first lol I couldn’t believe my eyes

[pseudo gulch]

It's a case of so bad it's so good

[hot cairn]

I think so

[gloomy light]

I laughed at people until I saw Shamrock’s luxurious locks

[hot cairn]

Shamrock existing?

[pseudo gulch]

The whole evil twin theory

[urban lodge]

I was an evil twin believer since 1083

Though I was half joking

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-fanart-fananimation-shamrock-shamrock-one-piece-gif-2941531481325250327

[pseudo gulch]

I don't think someone was actually serious about it

[urban lodge]

But I was fully convinced that the silhouette resembling Shanks was intentional

[pulsar timber]

I can’t believe my pookie shanks slayed that massive dragon

[urban lodge]

I just thought it would be like his dad or something

[pulsar timber]

I kneel before my king

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-shanks-gif-22177715

[hot cairn]

Socrates would say otherwise

[gloomy light]

Tbh I feel like it shouldn’t have worked but somehow it did

[pseudo gulch]

Shanks Gilgeous Alexander

[royal orchid]

I still think the hooded shanks in marijoa was actually shanks because why would shamrock need to be hidden to talk to his superiors

[runic dock]

He did the same thing to Loki as he did to Kaido

[hot cairn]

genuinely it was memes at one point

[runic dock]

[pseudo gulch]

Just like the best series ever (Kagurabachi)

[pulsar timber]

Two goats

[runic dock]

Great quote

[hot cairn]

me too, I was against it because I thought it would be weird but then chapter 1137 happened

[runic dock]

The twin shit completely blindsided me , did not expect it at all

[hot cairn]

and Oda proved me wrong

[hot cairn]

better than a Shanks clone like some people were saying

[balmy lava]

I think you just revealed something else in this picture!

[urban lodge]

That reminds me of how insane the spoilers for 1083 were

[hot cairn]

the spiral?

[urban lodge]

We had Cerberus Garling, Kaido and BM clone HKs

[runic dock]

The number of clones should be highly limited thanks to vp and his pesky funding problems

[urban lodge]

Though they were kinda cooking with Cerberus Garling in a way

Close enough

[balmy lava]

same spiral imagery for those that eat the smile fruits, and on the vearth gods on skypiea

[pseudo gulch]

#KILLVEGAPUNK

[pseudo gulch]

That was so cool

[hot cairn]

Cerberus Garling? I don’t remember that

[urban lodge]

Yeah

[hot cairn]

I see

[urban lodge]

For some reasons we had so many fake spoilers around that time

[pseudo gulch]

Imu face reveal

[urban lodge]

It was around the time of Sanji supposedly breaking his leg

[hot cairn]

that was hilarious

[gloomy light]

Spoilers have been such a travesty

Albeit hilarious ones in some cases

[pseudo gulch]

Like Sanji breaking his leg lol

Which chapter was that again?

[gloomy light]

Wasn’t there one that said Luffy got low diffed by Gaban

[urban lodge]

Idk the chapter but it was like 1070 something

[royal orchid]

https://x.com/hisashimitsuis/status/2027162584416436466?t=pmBUetfVtjGj3tz4-0pzKQ&s=19

siska (@hisashimitsuis)

Oda is supposed to draw only the three main characters but ofc that greedy tanuki is there too

X · Feb 26, 2026, 11:23 PM

[dense rapids]

This chapter made me fall in love with niddhoggr

The one from last chapter seems weird

[hot cairn]

when they were fighting s shark

[urban lodge]

Yeah it looked weird last chapter

[royal orchid]

the angle made him look rounder

[urban lodge]

The eye placement is kinda off

[rich hornet]

Gotta love the nightmare version trembling at Loki

[dense rapids]

You vs the guy she tells you not to worry about

[dense rapids]

The size comparison is crazy

Island level attack vs city level attack

[royal orchid]

"oh the ginormous dragon? no no that's actually chopper he found another transformation in his fruit"

[dense rapids]

“Didn’t you know reindeers can fly”

[royal orchid]

"why do you think he's called chopper?"

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-nico-robin-ms-allsunday-robin-tickling-gif-20584874

[runic dock]

Is this the current issue?

[runic dock]

Kaido not even city level attack , that’s like focused on one building lol

[dense rapids]

I tried to upscale him a little 😭

[runic dock]

Let’s not give him too much credit

[royal orchid]

no that's like 2023

[runic dock]

Damn , missed a free card

[wraith mantle]

Meek why is chapter late this week

[royal orchid]

who the fuck is meek

[runic dock]

Wrong meek 💀

[wraith mantle]

Why is TCB so fucking slow

Never the wrong meek

Because they are the same person

[hot cairn]

it’s out tho?

[wraith mantle]

Service level was breached

[royal orchid]

meek didn't even do the chapter this time lmao

also it was late because Monday was national holiday in japan

[urban lodge]

Poor Meeks, it's always him getting mixed up and never Neek

[wraith mantle]

Neek?

That’s a bad word in Arabic 😭

[urban lodge]

Hm

It's also a user in here so

Ask him

[runic dock]

What about neeka

[trim lily]

thats too close to neeko

[honest garden]

We only acknowledge english cuss words here

[lofty fern]

thorheim feels like a better name

Good chapter, and nice to see Sommers get what's coming to him, but I still feel like there is going to be more trouble to come.

Also, I guess Brook died. 🪦

And nice to see the holy land is fine.

[stone terrace]

Ehh some pain doesnt do it for me

A guy like sommers needs a psychological breakdown

[formal wagon]

sommers should frown

[stone terrace]

WOAH

[trim lily]

sommers has too much whimsy and freedom in him to do such a thing

you could even call him a joyboy

[hot cairn]

Sanji will give it to him

[olive sun]

Luffys attacks got so many qualifiers now man it's like reading genre tags on steam

He should recruit an editor onto his crew

[lofty fern]

I don't think Sanji can do any worse than Luffy

[prisma idol]

Imagine if Sommers died by loki stepping on him here

[ornate tartan]

chopper telling us soon what ragnir has to say

[trim lily]

i hope ragnir is extremely foul mouthed

[formal wagon]

i don't that would be problematic

i hope he's very polite and well mannered

a

nd he believes in kindness and stuff

and he thinks luffy is a cool guy

[trim lily]

he might

[hot cairn]

it’s crazy that Oda showed this in chapter 701 but the context wouldn’t be shown in like 200 chapters

[trim lily]

i would never assume the personality of a squirrel based solely on its appearance

[formal wagon]

yeah thats really crazy

[hot cairn]

I wonder how much he really has in mind beforehand

[formal wagon]

he planned everything

[hot cairn]

idk if you’re being sarcastic but I think Oda is a madman

[formal wagon]

not everything, but i am genuinely in the camp that oda has planned a lot of the major stuff

[stone terrace]

Ratatoskir is a shit stirrer and ragnir looks the part tbh

[trim lily]

theres some he obviously did but i think some other stuff is sillier

i think oda tends to do better at taking something he wrote in the past and reworking/expanding it to fit a new narrative

[runic dock]

It’s crazy that he would have like several of these type of events setup in a row happening one after the other like a cascade

So much to keep up with mentally

That’s why he’s goda

[ornate tartan]

flying gotta be the one of the most simple but coolest abilities to have

[tawny panther]

Loki was on the seas for all those years and the Imu never found out he had the Nidhogg fruit ?! i highly doubt Loki never used his DF

[runic dock]

Oda juggling all these important events to pay off at proper times later but somehow still making sure he remembers to do Franky/queen 39/93

[runic dock]

Maybe Loki was too traumatized to fully use it after killing his dad

And after he got to tell his whole story he felt better

[ornate tartan]

wouldn’t make sense if he did

maybe hybrid form but he most likely never revealed his full zoan form

he’s too big to go unnoticed

[runic dock]

There’s been instances in the story as others had pointed out to me where Luffy or someone else would claim they’re not fighting as good as they could cause thy didn’t get shit off their chest yet

Luffy did this against Katakuri

[dense rapids]

I think that}lol be the name

[ornate tartan]

that boy ragnir older then imu😂

[cosmic hamlet]

God of war Loki 👀

[stone terrace]

So when does kratos come in and ruin everything

[runic dock]

I wanted him to be god of war this chapter 😔

[runic dock]

Harald already stole his look anyway

[runic dock]

I loved this bit of Zoro glaze from Luffy

[frigid gulch]

Captain and Vice Captain

[runic dock]

WHen luffy gets authoritative

[frigid gulch]

I guess Oda was really tryna play it up

[cosmic hamlet]

Bro, for a moment luffy looked like those zoro fans 😭

[frigid gulch]

Luffy is a Zoro fan tho

[sacred nimbus]

ngl, gunko and zorro r gonna be a bad matchup lol

[frigid gulch]

Maybe top 1

[pulsar timber]

We are all Zoro fans

[runic dock]

Nah man when luffy starts talking like that it activates something in me

More of that please

[pulsar timber]

Freaky

[runic dock]

[ornate tartan]

sanji fans was crying about this scene

[ornate tartan]

like luffy didn’t say he can’t become the PK without sanji in whole cake

reactionary ass mfs😂

[runic dock]

Need luffy to talk like that about Usopp to somebody

[frigid gulch]

Man this is dope

[runic dock]

“See that mf? He’s the one that’s gonna make you forget you even saw me right now “

[ornate tartan]

he is when they run into the red hair pirates

he’s going to glaze usopp

[safe cove]

this page has great art

[runic dock]

Excellent upper left panel

Crisp Art

[frigid gulch]

Ye that one is great

Kaido’s Boro Breath doesn’t compare at all lol

But I suppose the size difference is naturally gonna make it like that

[runic dock]

I like how the inside of his mouth is detailed from any angle lol

Even here

[formal wagon]

true dragon vs stupid fish

[frigid gulch]

Nidhogg vs Judge Jr.

Who wins

[runic dock]

You can fit a whole city in that mouth

[formal wagon]

the world's strongest carp vs character that doesn't have to rely on titles

[formal wagon]

judge junior

[frigid gulch]

I mean this is just a crazy blast radius

[honest garden]

How strong is Imu gonna be to where an island sized dragon isn't the main fight

[formal wagon]

whats the main fight

[runic dock]

Hopefully that’s when he shows his transformations and other mythical abilities since he also has a zoan form

[formal wagon]

eustass?

[frigid gulch]

I’m seeing some ppl say Imu gave up control of Gunko

[ruby cape]

Can’t believe THIS… will inevitably get DR

[frigid gulch]

And is gonna come back like in GV

[formal wagon]

elbaf is ending soon and we are finally going to vira 🥰

[runic dock]

Imu is probably jealous he can’t get his jaw that big

[formal wagon]

imu is gonna forget he can do that

[frigid gulch]

DR Loki will prob fight in base

[runic dock]

Nah then he’s truly incompetent lol

Half of the flashback was purely to set up DR

[formal wagon]

thats how oda lets the protagonists win

thats why the Shs survived egghead

[frigid gulch]

Idk Imu so far spamming this control gimmick

[wraith mantle]

@hazy turret @scenic dirge @indigo yacht

We need a server bet, will Loki get domi reversi’d or not

[formal wagon]

saturn forgot he could do stuff

[runic dock]

Not every time , otherwise this manga would be midland like fairy tale

[frigid gulch]

Unlikely he’ll forget

[ruby cape]

If Imu loses this arc just donate the DF to Blackbeard at this point. Give the trilogy.

[runic dock]

Just untrue

[runic dock]

That was minor compared to how bad this would be

[frigid gulch]

Domi Loki to complete the Rocks’ parallel

[runic dock]

I hate imu but he has to be at least this competent

[frigid gulch]

[ruby cape]

Hell yeah this would be dope

What do you think Khalid?

[formal wagon]

server bet on when elbaf ends

[runic dock]

Luffy gonna need some help in that final MASS attack

[fallen meteor]

december, seems so

[formal wagon]

egghead ends december

NOT ELBAF

[fallen meteor]

that too?

[trim lily]

this december

[fallen meteor]

woah

[blazing mantle]

1200?

[frigid gulch]

Elbaf ends December

[formal wagon]

EGGHEAD..... ENDS?!?!

[blazing mantle]

What chapter would December be

[formal wagon]

fuck reply fail

[ruby cape]

Chapter 1199 just to keep a gamble

[runic dock]

Elbaf ends this time next year

[trim lily]

my wise orb informed me elbaf will be ending in july

[formal wagon]

EGGHEAD.... ENDS?!?!?!?!

[fallen meteor]

endhead

[novel zinc]

hi

[formal wagon]

my orb is stupid

[fallen meteor]

endbaf

[cosmic hamlet]

🤨

[trim lily]

[formal wagon]

WHY ARE YOU LOKING AT ME LIKE THAT

[blazing mantle]

In hindsight how did they not break the thorns faster if the solution was literally just fire

[formal wagon]

im so mad i lost a game of overwatch and it wasn't my fault

it wasn't my fault

it wasn't

[ruby cape]

My insider sources have told me Elbaf will end when the arc is complete

[cosmic hamlet]

How do you know about the server bet 👀

[runic dock]

I forgot the detail that the thorns are still made of steel too

Regular fire wouldn’t work

[formal wagon]

no

[cosmic hamlet]

Sure 😂

[runic dock]

Sanji fire burns hotter

Because of love or some shit

[blazing mantle]

So I guess holding a torch near it wouldn’t work?

[formal wagon]

i got so mad i went over the replay and spectated my teammates 😭

[ruby cape]

Quantity means a lot too for fires right

So Sabo would be able to burn it off

[runic dock]

If they’re really that tough apparently not

Sanji is like molten hot lava burning with love so it only hurts what he wants lmao

[blazing mantle]

Anything for sanji to beat summers

Ok Oda

Like it wasn’t already obvious they were gonna fight

[cosmic hamlet]

They betrayed you?

[trim lily]

wait so are sommers thorns invisible or not

[blazing mantle]

Maybe it’s like a proximity thing

[formal wagon]

yeah

[cosmic hamlet]

Where does it say they are invisible?

[frigid gulch]

The ones on the kids were

[formal wagon]

the ones around the kids are

[cosmic hamlet]

🧐

[blazing mantle]

They look invisible sometimes

[formal wagon]

we see them translusent this chapter, and when we are introduced to the power we're told they're invisibile

[runic dock]

Oh he did it differently on Robin , because for the kids it was part of the torture

[formal wagon]

we're also shown they're invisible to oda's credit

[cosmic hamlet]

Maybe they are not invisible, they just activate if someone touches them 👀

[cosmic hamlet]

Ohhhh

[blazing mantle]

The others don’t even see it

[frigid gulch]

Sommers is pretty good with his fruit, to his credit

[cosmic hamlet]

Okay they are invisible here 😐

[wraith mantle]

I am team Loki getting domi’d

[trim lily]

he just decided to make non invisible thorns for the strawhats

for some reason

[runic dock]

The thorns were always visible on Robin

[stone terrace]

This dude called mailbox whiffed a doomfist ult in a lobby i was just in

😂

[trim lily]

surely not the same mailbox i know

[edgy socket]

You just want to see him get even bigger

[wraith mantle]

Lmaooooo

I wonder if Brook will get domi’d

[sacred nimbus]

i for one wants that too, i wonder if he'll switch to asking for panties to asking for bras or he starts asking man for their panties

[formal wagon]

this is not real

i have forsaken doomfist for junkerqueen

but i do whiff all doomfist ults

[ashen rose]

MORE THAN A YEAR OF THEORIZING AND IT'S FINALLY HERE

[ashen rose]

Elbaph is gonna be a burned up twig by the end of elbaph

[formal wagon]

everyone thought loki would be glue logia

[cosmic hamlet]

Xdrake and loki df has same base name

👀

[formal wagon]

they owuld be friends i think if drake was taller

[ashen rose]

Just a tad bit y'know

[woven heron]

[astral zephyr]

its GOD

[ashen rose]

Holy shit those teeths

It looks odd, the lower part is missing

[pure scaffold]

That implies the existence of a paper logia

Also sup Mailbox o/

[formal wagon]

hello

[runic dock]

Yo wait

Loki nidhogg is an Ancalagon the black reference

[cosmic hamlet]

Where is this from

[celest mauve]

lord of the rings

[cosmic hamlet]

So god of war used to fight nika?

[celest mauve]

the silmarillion specifically

[runic dock]

The goatmarillion

“Myths from the first age “

I see you Oda

[balmy lava]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-dorry-brogy-dorry-one-piece-brogy-one-piece-gif-5906056634068479135

[cosmic hamlet]

🧐

[formal wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-doggie-trained-dog-dog-training-dog-carry-gif-12125736216390932776

[formal wagon]

that gif...

[celest radish]

[restive lintel]

🐦‍🔥

[keen quiver]

Good chap

And no break too

[wet condor]

Loki and Rocks have just been really good

[keen quiver]

So that boosts the chapter rating

[wet condor]

Oda did good with both of them so far

[frigid gulch]

[runic dock]

[restive lintel]

Yeah plus oda cooking another color page

[random hinge]

might be the best oda has ever drawn big mom

what was that one fanart

yeah

[restive lintel]

Big Mom indeed

[dense haven]

thicc

[cosmic hamlet]

👀

[dense haven]

yall liked the chapter?

[prisma yacht]

guys

kinda sick af

[cosmic hamlet]

Mid

[cosmic hamlet]

You are sick

[prisma yacht]

im having cough now

[cosmic hamlet]

You said you already recovered yesterday 🤔

[prisma idol]

She does give off a sick Shiloutte

[prisma yacht]

its viral

[cosmic hamlet]

Ohhh, get well soon

[prisma idol]

How many likes?

[prisma yacht]

thanks

:/

[cosmic hamlet]

Did you get caught up with that manhwa? I wanna ask a question

[prisma idol]

Sorry I got caught up reading dungeon odyssey

[cosmic hamlet]

Understandable

It was not harem though🤨

[proud pivot]

The sheer aura of everybody in this image

Except whitebeard who isn't excited that stussy is sitting on his lap for whatever reason

[restive lintel]

Not even lap lmao, she just riding his arms

Crazy size difference

[proud pivot]

The storks were workin overtime when weevil was born

[prisma idol]

It doesn't have to be a harem for me to read. Thats just a massive added bonus

[cosmic hamlet]

Then read all my suggestions

[prisma idol]

After I reread bachi, and catch up on all the other manhua im reading

[cosmic hamlet]

Manhua? Wtf?

There is not a single manhua I haven't dropped in the middle

[prisma idol]

Not manhua manhwa sorry

I get them confused

[dense haven]

you ever read this mahua called one piece

[unique lagoon]

im sure robin will go and try checking on sauls condition
maybe try saving anything in the library
so that biblo owl can do something finally

[dense haven]

biblo is fried chicken

[cosmic hamlet]

😐

[solemn summit]

[dense haven]

https://klipy.com/gifs/post-this-15

[prisma yacht]

Guys did y'all enjoy the 5th worst chapter of this year

[rose rune]

which one was which again? I forget

was wa korean?

[craggy vapor]

too late. It’s February 28th now.

[opal pivot]

The strongest crew of all time

[restive lintel]

True but they aren't gonna put much of a performance

[opal pivot]

?

[restive lintel]

Well if Rocks, BM, Kaido & WB team up that's enough

[restive lintel]

They keep trying to backstab each other

[opal pivot]

Those are the best teams to be on

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/NadalCaique/status/2027488743024709759/photo/1

NadalCaique (@NadalCaique)

Loki - One piece 1175

X · Feb 27, 2026, 8:59 PM

[restive lintel]

Shiki, Captain John, Wang Zhi gonna work against the group instead

[restive lintel]

Tho Rocks pirates all star lineup is just too strong

[dense haven]

yall liked the chapter?

[keen quiver]

Btw

Kaido meant so little imu just sent him off to be experimented on

😭

It makes me wonder how disappointed he was when the fruit they found wasn't the right dragon.

[safe cove]

when sbs will come out?

[iron oriole]

Goda/10

[pine ridge]

1/1

[unique lagoon]

shame the hammer cant grow in size so a dragon can use it

maybe thats still possible

[pine ridge]

there's still that massive sword

[ornate tartan]

between today and tmrw they said, maybe later

[fluid cedar]

If loki uses it that puts him below mihawk, making it possible that shanks beat loki in a fight

[unique lagoon]

the crazy thing is that massive sword is still wayyyyy bigger compare to the dragon

[pine ridge]

good point

[unique lagoon]

now if the user of that sword manage to have the nidhogg df back then

[restive lintel]

He was just strong, no lineage or historical importance

[unique lagoon]

you know what that giant sword might be just first worlds nika sword

[keen quiver]

And a fruit that was replicated and tossed away for being pink

[unique lagoon]

also saying that nika and former nidghogg user clashed
sound like roger and garp or shanks and mihawk deal

[fluid cedar]

Aren’t luffys power temporary now

[unique lagoon]

nah im saying the real nika was very big

which fits with that hat imu is keeping

[fluid cedar]

The Squirrel is his normal size in the jarul picture

can’t be that gigantic

[prisma yacht]

wow didn't know this was a sbs weekend

[vernal ravine]

yeah i thought the same they could be friends and clashed for fun

[prisma yacht]

heard they were going to drop a big announcement as well?

[unique lagoon]

good point
its confusing but still if the sword is from first world then there was big ass people walking around

[pine ridge]

luffy can grow. if the og nika was originally ancient giant sized, he could've grown way bigger

[unique lagoon]

also theres another weird thing with the nidhogg size depending on user
why does that matter? aint that the same with all zoans ?

aint kaido bigger than adult momo

or is jarul talking about specific race for the size to change

[pine ridge]

yeah it's the same with all zoans

[unique lagoon]

so hes just throwing that info around
an already known one

[restive lintel]

Kaido personality wasn't compatible with the fruit at all

Non wonder it never awakened

[unique lagoon]

im not even mentioning loki was chosen to be the second coming

[pine ridge]

it's just a reminder

cause nidhoggs size is it's biggest selling point

and such the size of the user matters more than before

[fluid cedar]

Luffy looks like the same size as the nika depicted

In his giant form

[vernal ravine]

but in zoan types it's a similar ratio, in nidhogg's case, he's specifically saying that it makes you the biggest dragon no matter what you are, even if you're a tonttata.

[pine ridge]

yeah but I bet he could grow even bigger

at least in the future

[keen quiver]

The fruit does not like mean, warmongering drunks

Still have to see how big the hybrid form is

[fluid cedar]

a little taller than harald it seems

[tough dust]

u can gauge it based on the castle encounter with harald

[restive lintel]

Prob around half his full size

[restive lintel]

That could just be size inconsistency tho I hope his hybrid form is bigger tho

He didn't break the castle when he fought Harald

[tough dust]

normally hybird don't make you bigger its actually the opposite

a good example is kaido lol

[unique lagoon]

mythical hybrid just varies

look at marco

[safe cove]

okiee thx

[tawny kraken]

2 chapters without brook, worrysome

[opal pivot]

We don't know that. I'm under the assumption he was.

[restive lintel]

You're under assumption that Kaido fruit awakened?

Why would you assume that?

Kaido didn't even believe in devil fruits

Only Haki transcends all

[maiden charm]

We've gotten multiple examples of an awakened zoan, mythical, regular, and irregular(gorosei). Kaido not having a cloud/flame scarf of any sort should indicate he didn't awaken

[iron oriole]

Kaido: man WB that DF is so cool! I gotta get myself one of those!

[maiden charm]

Also hybrid size is very difficult to scale since it factors in the base bodies regular traits and capabilities. Dalton by all logic should've been bigger than luccis hybrid form given him being a bison and Lucci being a leopard but thats not the case at all.

[iron oriole]

Also Kaido: what?! You mean it Linlin?! You'll give me a DF???!

[warm sierra]

My guess would just be that with zoans having a will of their own the fruit just didnt choose Kaido as its the protector fruit of Wano and hes everything but

[restive lintel]

Hybrid Nidhodd is probably the size of Loki

But with Dragon torso

[maiden charm]

Maybe, I think hybrid will be slight bigger than base loki. Idk how an ancient giants genes would convert.
Im just going off lucci with his training, and techniques being able to artificially manipulate his hybrid sizes

But it could all just be oda being oda.
I mean the impel down guards were huge for being a duck,zebra,a koala?(not sure). So they were just big just cause or the guards they took over were big to begin with

[unique lagoon]

the gorosei so called hybrid form looks different also

[maiden charm]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-ethanbaron-v-nusjuro-badass-sword-gif-14558450722932773717

Same scarf as lucci

[unique lagoon]

i dont think any of the gorosei had a humanoid hybrid
unless you count the silouette that when cobra died

[restive lintel]

Peter hybrid form was best

[maiden charm]

That human shape was imu so thats a whole nother can of worms tbr

[maiden charm]

Peter went hybrid ?

[dense haven]

a can of jupeters

[maiden charm]

I thought it was saturn and nosjuro that did

[grand flower]

Yeah

Theyre the only ones who did

[unique lagoon]

nah i mean this

did we see this silhouette in egghead?

[maiden charm]

Ohhhh, I think this is nosjuro. Looks like his horse leg,his robe and his head

[restive lintel]

Yeha

Wait my bad

Nasjuro

[unique lagoon]

yep

saturn had 2 forms also

[restive lintel]

I meant Nasjuro

[unique lagoon]

i think only saturn and Nas has 2 forms

[restive lintel]

Great form

[maiden charm]

Yea for real, favorite gorosei display so far

[unique lagoon]

that guy was just styling on everyone in that arc

[maiden charm]

https://tenor.com/view/nusjuro-nusjuro-one-piece-ethanbaron-v-nusjuro-venus-venus-one-piece-gif-11382209813886610115

Like bro what

[subtle salmon]

Nusjuro glaze

I’m home

[unique lagoon]

i mean look at him

[maiden charm]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-egghead-labophase-cloud-nusjuro-gif-2941148278250601913

This was my fave scene from the gorosei bar none

[subtle salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/nusjuro-nusjuro-one-piece-ethanbaron-v-nusjuro-venus-venus-one-piece-gif-5371034243251640904

[pine scaffold]

Nah their intro was the best scene

[subtle salmon]

This was executed perfectly in the anime

[pine scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-luffy-face-off-the-five-elders-the-five-elders-intro-title-card-the-five-elders-arrives-on-egghead-sun-god-nika-luffy-vs-the-five-elders-gif-10776732232459252302

[subtle salmon]

Valid

[maiden charm]

Ehhh, it was great but when half the roster looks like the jungle book you lose me

The execution 10 out 10
The contents thooo....

[unique lagoon]

and to think sanji manage to hit this mf

[pine scaffold]

Lots of people think all the gorosei showing up was a bad idea

[unique lagoon]

i thought he burned his head there for a sec
but that his transformation to this

[maiden charm]

I dont think it was a bad idea they just had a horrible showing. Didn't really display the top of authority of the world
They were a bunch of stooges during the broadcast

[subtle salmon]

Garling will make the Gorosei great again

Mark my words

[pine scaffold]

I feel like the Gorosei needed to look way stronger tbh

[maiden charm]

Nosjuro and warcury were Great tho,they did the job

Mars could've done more and ju Peter was just a dihh

[unique lagoon]

i mean look at that transformation
you can still see the shape of his head there and the horse skull just spawns out of his chest

[opal pivot]

Yet the jailer beasts were stated to be awakened

[subtle salmon]

Ju Peter wasn’t trying my goat is the traitor

[steel stirrup]

Yea Warcury and Nusjuro had a pretty good showing imo

[opal pivot]

Says who?

[prisma yacht]

[pine scaffold]

The same kinda thing is happening in Elbaf rn ngl

The holy knights aren't looking good and the monsters

idk why Oda keeps making the WG look like bums bruh 😭

[opal pivot]

Correct. All the top tiers have top tier haki

[ornate tartan]

there’s only 1 holy knight that hasn’t looked good

[steel stirrup]

Yea but its a failed awakening

They let their own wills be overridden by the will of the fruit.

[subtle salmon]

He has something up his sleeve

[grand flower]

@hazy turret being handsome is great isn’t it

[maiden charm]

An improper awakening. Its when the users will is consumed by the zoans will because their will and body aren't able to match that of the zoan.
Vegapunk talks about this kinda stuff when luffy vs lucci happen

[unique lagoon]

not wrong tbh

[pine scaffold]

as soon as Killingham gets more screentime, he's gonna be next 😭

[steel stirrup]

Name em

[ornate tartan]

sommers

[pine scaffold]

Killingham is gonna lose his first on screen fight

😭

[ornate tartan]

gunko and killingham have no antifeats yet

[subtle salmon]

Luffy could just snipe each one by one

[maiden charm]

Killingham and gunko really the ones to do shi

[pine scaffold]

in the flashback as well

remember how the roger pirates kept defeating the knights

Garling in GV

[steel stirrup]

Only ones im worried about are Gunko, Shammy, and Killingham

[pine scaffold]

I don't think we are supposed to take the WG seriously apart from Imu

[ornate tartan]

there’s several more that haven’t been introduced too

why do people think there’s only 4 god knights😂

[restive lintel]

Says Kaido

[steel stirrup]

It definitely feels that way the way they get jobbed out and hypetooled

[dense haven]

sb do you like loki now

[opal pivot]

He never said that?

[grand flower]

Because theyre the rich elite

[pine scaffold]

I do but I like Rocks more still

[maiden charm]

We def were,they were propped as those guys around marineford

[subtle salmon]

Well in essence the WG are spoiled and haven’t had proper battle experience in years

[steel stirrup]

If the ones we've seen so far are anything to go off of my expectations are very very low

[pine scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-rocks-d-xebec-gif-17441576166473385864

[dense haven]

not for long

ur already turning

[pine scaffold]

NO IM NOT

😭

[grand flower]

Do you think he’s fire scar?

[ornate tartan]

this when yall powerscaling mindset takes over

the wg is basically invincible

[steel stirrup]

Ain't the nigga dead?

[pine scaffold]

Yeah this could be a reason as well, might be intentional

[ornate tartan]

there has to be several prophecies that come together all at the same time just to take the Wg down

the 5 elders are literally unstoppable bar like 4 ppl on the planet

[pine scaffold]

The more we are seeing from the WG, the more likely BB is the final villain ngl

[subtle salmon]

I do kinda miss these cleaner panels

[steel stirrup]

On my immortal everlasting soul

[steel stirrup]

Yea the paneling this chapter was kinda ass tbh

[subtle salmon]

He’s always been that imo

[dense haven]

oda fell off

[pine scaffold]

Nah

[unique lagoon]

if you list it all down WG kinda ass in the past arcs
2 admirals got outsmarted by revos
sabo escaped 5 gorosei + imu
CP0 failed wano also failed Egghead
GB got spooked in wano
akainu failed to stop kuma
Gorosei failed in egghead saturn dies
imus best HK got killed in elbaf
HK was ass in god valley
now sommers just got owned
gunko about to ruin imus plan cuz of brook

[steel stirrup]

Ls on top of Ls

[subtle salmon]

There were still some great panels

[grand flower]

Go back to that scene and tell me it doesnr come across like Oda tryna be slick

[pine scaffold]

The worst part is that this list is gonna get longer

[restive lintel]

Elbaph has many clean spreads & panels compared to Egghead

[pine scaffold]

by the time we're done with elbaf

[ornate tartan]

none of those are Ls until something actually happens

of major consequence

[restive lintel]

Bb is final villain, he is Davy Jones

[dense haven]

bowler hat was tasked with killng luffy and he did it

[steel stirrup]

Yea he did cut away last minute. According to Lafittes rumors tho MMBF is a WG affiliate

[dense haven]

whatever happened next its not on him

[restive lintel]

Davy Jones vs Joyboy

[unique lagoon]

you telling me saturn dying is not a major consequence

[maiden charm]

Only thing id change is the 2 admiral part. They have no fucking chemistry lmao
Only reason they lost is because Fuji and GB fought

[subtle salmon]

No doubt, one of my favorites gotta be Loki shattering Harald

[steel stirrup]

Saturn died for ts tbh

[grand flower]

You can see it in their designs. Their colors are over the top, way too busy. Especially Garling’s outfit, it’s complete nonsense.

Even their long, complicated names.

All of it is supposed to convey theyre ostentatious. All of it is loud and full of hot air, but also completely devoid of taste because the CDs insist on themselves more than they deserve

They demand importance without being important

[unique lagoon]

the VP broadcast IS a major consequence buddy

[maiden charm]

Guernica

[unique lagoon]

people downplay how much dmg to the WG that VP speech did

[dense haven]

what did you call me

[steel stirrup]

If you could ask Saturn I'll bet he'll say he suffered a major consequence

[maiden charm]

Guer nica

[grand flower]

@pine scaffold Dude is wearing a V-neck jacket with a popped collar that’s also a button up crop top

It’s definitely intentional

[unique lagoon]

if you go back to the gunko speech before she owned the SH crew
that part was the consequence

[maiden charm]

Maha,gismonda, Guernica u best learn their names

[grand flower]

The CDs arent as cool as they think they are

[pine scaffold]

[maiden charm]

https://tenor.com/view/cp0-gismonda-gismonda-one-piece-joseph-joseph-one-piece-gif-27117449

[pine scaffold]

wtf is this man

😭

[grand flower]

Part of that is, they get MOLLYWHOPPED

[steel stirrup]

A v neck button up vest is wild work

[grand flower]

CDs are basically a bunch of rich kids whose daddies paid for them to be in the football team

[subtle salmon]

Except Shamrock he’s tuff

[grand flower]

The dude eating sugar on oatmeal for dinner probably gonna rip his ass apart

[maiden charm]

These fits too tough

[steel stirrup]

What department store even carries such an article of clothing

[pine scaffold]

They all got regen but they get tossed around like flies by the actual top tiers

[unique lagoon]

just wait
this guy about to fuck shit up

[ornate tartan]

to imu it wasn’t, otherwise he wouldn’t have done it

[unique lagoon]

most sus CP0

[steel stirrup]

Just enough for them to not die in one hit every time

[subtle salmon]

He got imus fit in white

[opal pivot]

I don't get it

[grand flower]

Outfit so bullshit you KNOW he had it custom made

[pine scaffold]

They'd all be dead if they didnt have regen

[unique lagoon]

whats with the box head there buddy

[ornate tartan]

the biggest L that the WG took so far is the Vegapunk broadcast

[restive lintel]

Elbaph gonna be Usopp's arc

[pine scaffold]

there would be no knights 😭

[tawny panther]

is it safe to say the Davy Clan knows about more important info than what’s at Laughtale when you find the One Piece ?

[grand flower]

It’s even mirrored

[restive lintel]

Ykb

[steel stirrup]

I know the designer was confused as fuck when that order came thru

"You want me to make a what?"

[maiden charm]

YES, been a Gismonda and Joseph believer since day 1

[grand flower]

Maybe not more, but they may have context the Roger pirates didjt have

[restive lintel]

They share some forbidden knowledge definitely

Can't say its more imp than Laughtale tho

[grand flower]

I just realized too he had the nerve to put that shit on and only button the top button

[tawny panther]

yeah it’s weird cause i wondered how does Rocks know stuff that people who went to Laughtale don’t

Rocks knew about Imu

Post Laughtale Gaban didn’t until Shanks told him

Rocks knew about Nidhogg

Post Laughtale Gaban didn’t until Jarul told him

Rocks knew what’s needed to bring down the Holy Land

Post Laughtale Gaban didn’t

🤔 WTF 😂

[pine scaffold]

😭

[unique lagoon]

ok i believe in gismonda
but joseph got intercepted by BMP ship
that guy prob dead or being tortured for information by smoothy

[tawny panther]

feels like Joyboy left out a lot of important info at laughtale lol

[grand flower]

You know what, laugh tale probably gives you the joy boy half of the story

And the Davy clan have the other half

It makes sense

Joy Boy orchestrated laugh tale

[pine scaffold]

Oda is going kinda crazy with the damage here

[ornate tartan]

the mural is just a drawing by the elbaph kids
why do people think that’s on laughtale

[pine scaffold]

I dont think he'd draw that if they didnt have regen

😭

looks like a diff manga

[tawny panther]

yeah this actually makes a lot of sense now that you mention it 🤔

[unique lagoon]

Joseph is gone bro

[tawny panther]

Laughtale is Joyboy half of the story , Davy Clan have Davys half of the story .. only when you know both is when you’ll get the full picture

[unique lagoon]

1 elite CP0 and his fodders vs BM crew

[tawny panther]

I can see Teach straight up telling Luffy what the Davy Clan knows during a fight since Luffy is Nika 3.0 &.. that way Luffy would get the full story

[grand flower]

I’m leaning in even more now that Rocks is Fire Scaf

[maiden charm]

Hell nah, I believe in Joseph.

[grand flower]

Scar*

Fire Scar was first mentioned by Kid

Kid’s post-TS bounty says “ghost of Jonah,” just like Blackbeards

[tawny panther]

what’s your theory on how he could’ve survived god valley

[maiden charm]

On the note of Cp0, Jabra awakening will clear luccis awakening

[grand flower]

Garp and Roger finished off Rocks with the ONLY fire-based moves Theyve ever used

Neither of them are primarily fire users

And they BOTH bust out random fire moves to finish Rocks?

[unique lagoon]

how many contender for fire scar man we have now
gaban, shiki, another roger pirate or former rocks member

i truly believe WB has something to do with the man

[tawny panther]

you forgot Dragon lol

[unique lagoon]

oh god

sure i guess

[tawny panther]

that’s another popular theory i see for it a lot lol

idk why but is it lol

imagining dragon having the 4th poneglyph and not telling Robin (a o’hara survivor who’s on your son crew)for 2 years is hilarious 😂😂

[unique lagoon]

im a big fan of the whirlpool ability is the mans pet sea king

[ornate tartan]

the guy who refuses to even go to the grocery store wouldn’t be sailing a black ship on the seas 24/7

[grand flower]

I think the way the scene is framed, someone took him

When the blade hits him, the screen goes dark and we don’t actually see if it’s even Rocks being stabbed. Then the same knights that killed Rocks just allowed Gaban and Rayleigh to take Roger and Garp? And then Rayleigh was dodgy about the question, hesitating before saying the knights killed Rocks

[unique lagoon]

it just follows the ship around protecting it

[grand flower]

So I think the panel of the SHUNK in the dark was someone saving Rocks

That was the knights being attacked

Someone took his dying body and told Ray and Gaban not to tell they took Rocks

Maybe it was Whitebeard

[tawny panther]

so going off of your theory , Teach is gonna have to fight/meet his pops for the final poneglyph ?

[grand flower]

Probably

I think Rocks is crippled maybe

He can’t do it anymore so he’s waiting for his successor to give the ponegliff too

Maybe a parallel to Luffy in Zou

[tawny panther]

you think Eris is still alive too ? or she dead

[grand flower]

Both get a freebie red ponegliff

Nah shes probably dead

I bet Blackbeard ate her

[tawny panther]

uhh damn lol that’s dark

[grand flower]

I have no real hard evidence for that

I just have this gut feeling she told him to do that lol

[ornate tartan]

is that why his stomach so big

[maiden charm]

Blud just cause the attack is wise man of the fire god doesnt mean its actual fire
Its not like kizaru is shooting the actual royal jewels of japan

[unique lagoon]

do people think blackbeard does cannibalism cuz of how BM got her DF? eating caramel

[grand flower]

Yeah whatever bruh

[ornate tartan]

that’s too grotesque for this story

[grand flower]

Garp’s fists are literally on fire

[tawny panther]

yall think Big Mom parents ever tried visiting her again once she was older and became famous .. or if Linlin herself ever tried reconnecting since she was all about “ family “

[digital spear]

This was Eris when she died

[ornate tartan]

if they did she would kill them

[grand flower]

Hell naw they were probably scared of her

[tawny panther]

lmao true

their child grew up to become one of the most famous people in the world lol i know they felt some type of way

[maiden charm]

Either that or since the dark fruit negates devil fruit effects, he was able to negate the reincarnation cycle of the fruit by becoming a container of darkness ultimately trapping the gura aura within

Dark fruit is a logia and most like can turn the user completely into darkness when immersed in darkness

[unique lagoon]

yes but that goes back to how burgees manage to steal a fruit without BB there

[grand flower]

Don’t believe it’s mere coincidence that Garp’s fists are on fire

And Roger also just so happens to use the only fire themed move he ever has

As Garp is also using the only fire themed move he ever has lol

[steel stirrup]

Where the Ice fists at

Where the lightning fist

[maiden charm]

Bb doesnt need a bag of fruits like Burgess does,thats why I think the dark fruit is what makes the difference because what's stopping the bb pirates from canabalising their victims

[digital spear]

Pokemon attacks

[tawny panther]

from what i seen that was most of those theories are based around … but based off rocks knowing about stuff that post laughtale gaban didn’t , I think Teach is the same and somehow either his mom, rocks or the davy clan had some forbidden info about how it’s possible to take the fruit or someone else

[steel stirrup]

Wtf is a Pokémon

[unique lagoon]

you can argue blackbeard does something with a normal FRUIT*
infusing it with the yami power
like a magnet for the DFs soul when user dies

[tawny panther]

i don’t think the davy clan has knowledge on how to eat multiple DFs though cause Gorosei said Teach is the only one in history ever able to do it … unless Oda is gonna say the Davy Clan knows stuff that the Gorosei don’t either

[ornate tartan]

every character in op uses fire attacks damn near

[grand flower]

Who’s the PFP

[ornate tartan]

rzn why fire is the best element

[grand flower]

I feel like people being able to do this is because people touched the forbidden sun in the first world

[unique lagoon]

cuz we know now that Blackbeard can store a DF he stole ye?
he said he could sell or use Laws DF

[tawny panther]

yeah he somehow knows a way to take the fruit right then and there without eating it first

[digital spear]

Vinsmoke Romeo kicked it 😭

[tawny panther]

so he could’ve just stole WB fruit and sold it if he wanted to instead of eating it

[grand flower]

Just have the host fruit with you

Kill the nigga

It respawns with you

[steel stirrup]

I think her name is Ms Bunni but I might be wrong

[maiden charm]

That could be it too. I just firmly believe the dark fruit is how bb is able to consume multiple fruits.
If you want to actual get the fruit itself,then the fruits are needed ie.BB pirates and the cart of apples shinokuni ate
The fruit is just a container for the devil fruit will/soul/desire
Ie. Jabra talking about eating two devil fruits, gura gura reincarnation, the first world mural, and vegapunks hypothesis

[grand flower]

I’m bouta find out

[tawny panther]

yeah the mystery with teach isn’t really about how he’s taking the fruits , cause even his crew knows how to do that .. it’s moreso how that mf can eat multiple fruits … i’ve been now seeing people say he did what Ratatoskr did but idk

[grand flower]

FUCK

[digital spear]

WHAT

[steel stirrup]

Hold on

[unique lagoon]

he wanted it so bad cuz its the most destructive DF out there
now that i think about it maybe the gura DF was just his second choice for destructive DF since he cant get the Nidghogg df

[grand flower]

Eris did that shit bruh

She did sumn to him

That woman is wicked

[tawny panther]

like she did experiments on him ?

[grand flower]

I know shes wicked cause I think her depiction is attractive

You can’t fool me Oda

[grand flower]

Or magic

Rituals

[tawny panther]

damn your plot lines for Eris are so dark 😂

she seemed so nice and sweet in god valley lol

[grand flower]

I saw her and was like “whoa”

[unique lagoon]

Eris is a morbid character tbf
was prep to kill her kid there in GV

[grand flower]

That’s why I don’t trust her

[grand flower]

Exactly

And she attracted a mad man like Rocks

[abstract heath]

The artistic quality of the manga really has dropped off in recent years..

[grand flower]

What you want us to do about that

[tawny panther]

yeah I did think she was gonna die in god valley .. i was 100% convinced

[digital spear]

Do you think Eris got more morbid as time went on and treated Teach badly

[abstract heath]

The content is interesting but its just not nearly as visually appealing

[digital spear]

Until he killed her or something

[urban lodge]

I hope evil mastermind Eris is real

[maiden charm]

I like the idea of the davy clan being the last practitioners of " magic" or whatever mysticism used in the first world that allowed them to grow and pass on their desires to the next world

[tawny panther]

her surviving was one of the biggest shocks of god valley lol

[urban lodge]

It would be so funny

[unique lagoon]

old man being forced to work forever by corpos

[digital spear]

Eris = Lafitte

[abstract heath]

?

[abstract heath]

Yeah I'm not coming for oda specifically tbh

[maiden charm]

Cook,there's more to lafitte than we know

[abstract heath]

But the manga just does not look good these days

[tawny panther]

lol if Oda make Eris so dark that she wanted Teach to slime out WB 😂ima be weak & shocked cause Eris seemed so sweet

[digital spear]

Lafitte knew Teach since they were children and they concocted their plan together, later while Teach was on WBs ship Lafitte collected Burgess, Augur, Doc Q and Rockstar...

[abstract heath]

You get 1-2 solid panels or spreads every chapter then the rest of it is just congested boxes of squiggly lines and text

[unique lagoon]

thing is blackbeard said that he did respect WB
i think he was really thankful that WB took him as a kid
things just changed

[tawny panther]

“ listen up son , once you get the yami yami , kill Newgate & take his power too … i heard he abandoned your father at god valley “ 😂

[tawny panther]

true , he said he looked up to him , but he stopped caring once WB got old lol which is funny but also fucked. up 😂

“ i used to look up to you man , but you got old and slow so now you gotta die “

[maiden charm]

Rockstar lmao.. but yea, I definitely think lafitte and teach have been partners way longer than the founding of the bb pirates

Maybe like a Rayleigh roger situation

[tawny panther]

plus the fact that Lafitte is the only pirate we know who has the same title as Sabo “ Chief of Staff” of the crew

he might’ve been Teach first mate

[digital spear]

hes also the only one older than the rest of the first group

[maiden charm]

Yup,Burgess was first mate but lafitte got the CoS spot

[grand flower]

I’m just being a jackass

[grand flower]

Vivi is gonna have that

When she joins the SHs

[proud pivot]

!rmd list

[grand flower]

She’s gonna be the diplomat that bridges the gap between Luffy and the grand fleet

[proud pivot]

Wait yc

Does this chapter count

For the sommers thing

[grand flower]

Paw Paw Vivi might even be able to blip around the ships of the fleet in different locations

“We need to get this message from Leo to Ideo” and Vivi does it

[maiden charm]

Vivi and the paw paw fruit

[digital spear]

These are the ages

BB 40
Lafitte 41
Burgess 29
Doc Q 28
Van Augur 27
Rockstar 26

[tawny panther]

you think Kuma is still dying ? i did in egghead but oda continuing to drag him along and Lilith saying she can maybe fix him , made me start thinking Kuma ain’t dying lol

[grand flower]

I think he’s already lost the fruit

When he goes to pick up Bonney his palms look bare

No pun intended

I think kuma is indeed “dead”

But something about being a Buccaneer keeps him tethered

[digital spear]

When did you even do the reminder

[grand flower]

So it’s good enough for the fruit to have been released back into circulation from his body

[proud pivot]

2 chapters ago probably

[digital spear]

Well yeah he got his ass beat

[proud pivot]

4-0 I really am the goat man

Jeez

!rmd list

[tawny panther]

probability of this happening in Elbaf ? I give it 95% 😂

this is the island that worships Nika after all

anytime a arc has supernovas , they always get involved

Loki : “ there’s two Nikas ?! I thought I was the Sun God “

[grand flower]

Bonney, Urouge, Kid and Shiki’s son killer

We eating GOOD in Elbaph

[digital spear]

So glue

[maiden charm]

Bonney already had her time. Its time for HIM

https://tenor.com/view/urouge-one-piece-urouge-one-piece-mad-monk-one-piece-stampede-gif-13659912243863298446

[digital spear]

So is the fruit not related to why Loki thinks hes the sun god?

[restive lintel]

Urogue & Enel

[digital spear]

Or did the god of war fight with the sun god to become the sun god or something

[tawny panther]

at the beginning of elbaf i thought they said most elbaf giants believe they’ll be the sun god ? I remember Rodo also calling himself the Sun God

i thought we would get Loki reaction to Luffy going G5 but guess not lol

[craggy vapor]

this is Urogue

[tawny panther]

Urouge a lunarian ? lol

[craggy vapor]

he has wings and probably can fly

[muted hedge]

that's probably Alber if anyone

[digital spear]

Yeah the giants seem to know what the Sun God is supposed to look like but Loki doesnt seem to care?

[tawny panther]

or a Seraphim or that’s the past and it’s a lunarian we don’t know

[muted hedge]

well the seraphims were newly made

so it has to be a lunarian of some sort

[craggy vapor]

that mural person is too huge to be Alber. Remember Urouge can increase his body size

[muted hedge]

maybe Alber's ancestor

[proud pivot]

Kill all seraphims

[tawny panther]

woah woah woah

[muted hedge]

you do know that Alber is huge

[tawny panther]

some of these seraphims more interesting than the OGs lol

[proud pivot]

Not at all

[craggy vapor]

but not THAT huge that he is the size of Laboon’s head

[muted hedge]

i definitely disagree, so far they're a blank slate with fruits

[grand flower]

It’s VERY interesting he’s assuming the role opposite to his fruit. Hmm

HMMMMM

I WONDER

The dragon that the sun god fought claiming to be the sun god?

The ome with the sun god fruit distancing himself from the mantle?

https://tenor.com/view/hmmm-thinking-will-smith-gif-15302481

[muted hedge]

what?

[steel stirrup]

Nigga I cannot find her name i used to know it tho

[grand flower]

You’ve failed me

BIDEN
BLAST!

[proud pivot]

Who's name

[grand flower]

I’ve been saying for a few years now Imu won’t be defeated by Luffy

[muted hedge]

oh

[steel stirrup]

JADA FIRE

[grand flower]

And I’ve pushed back against the “ofc he will, he’s Joy Boy” by saying that it’s contradictory to Luffys character for him to fall in line with expectations and responsibilities like that

[digital spear]

Well now it would be Loki, or are you saying Dragon because his name

[muted hedge]

Luffy has to do it, if you ask me.
i would probably feel a bit disappointed by the overall conclusion if Luffy isn't there to do it

[tawny panther]

i’m more interesting in S Hawk than Mihawk , same with S Snake & Boa

[steel stirrup]

My pfp

[muted hedge]

that's wild

[grand flower]

It’s still Dragon because his role in the story is directly contested with Imus

[steel stirrup]

Wyd today

[grand flower]

Dragon literally exists to tear down what Imu built

Like not just metatextually

In universe that’s what the nigga lives for

[tawny panther]

waiting for decades to learn something about mihawk doesn’t work for everybody lol S Hawk little interaction with Zoro when he talked about him being more human was more interesting than anything we got with Mihawk so far

[proud pivot]

Dawg should've just reverse searched it

[muted hedge]

well, weither he thinks he is Joyboy or not doesn't really matter as fate is leading him into the path of Joyboy none the less, by all means of it, he is the spiritual successor to Nika and Joyboy even if he doesn't think so himself.

[steel stirrup]

I did

[grand flower]

“Luffy has to do it” is exactly where it won’t happen

[steel stirrup]

Its Jada Fire i just remembered

[grand flower]

You tell Luffy “you have to do XYZ” he’s gonna tell ya to fuck off

[grand flower]

The nostalgia…

[proud pivot]

Watching twitter while waiting for fsf episode

[grand flower]

Remember in Baratie

[steel stirrup]

Got me thru middle school

[proud pivot]

It's amazing

[grand flower]

When Luffy HAD to do chore work on the ship

What happened?

[steel stirrup]

Fsf?

[muted hedge]

well, yeah, but if a friend is in need like for example Vivi.
he'll do it without batting an eye at it

[grand flower]

He absolutely fucked it up

[proud pivot]

Fate strange fake

[grand flower]

Dragon owes Vivi

[muted hedge]

also doing chores on the ship isn't the same thing as going against the definition of oppression, if you ask me

[grand flower]

The evidence keeps rolling in Yamu favor

Trust me, I can flip it all

[muted hedge]

what?

[grand flower]

Cause I’ve heard it all

[steel stirrup]

Oh shit you get to watch it live

[grand flower]

The Revos made the choice to allow Kobra’s name to be slandered because it was getting them recruits

Dragon talks about how people are under the impression that Sabo killed a bad king

So they were emboldened to join the Revos

[proud pivot]

No bro I am still watching on illegal sites in Japan cus they don't have subtitles here 💔

[muted hedge]

yes, they're using that in their favor you're right

[steel stirrup]

I need to catch up and refresh with Fate its been a sec

[steel stirrup]

LMAOOO

[grand flower]

Aside from Kobra saving Sabo’s life, theyre allowing smut on his name

[proud pivot]

You should, the new one is fire

[grand flower]

Dragon taking down the man who killed Kobra will rectify that

Trust me dawg

Any reason you give for Luffy

[muted hedge]

but i still think it's a very odd and quite honestly dumb decision if Luffy isn't there to put a stop to Imu who is the literal reason for why people aren't totally free, as Luffy believes that people should strive to be.

[grand flower]

I can make it even better for Dragon

[muted hedge]

Dragon will be in play too, but Luffy has to do it

[grand flower]

“Freedom vs authority theme” dragon is a great liberator

[muted hedge]

i won't accept any other outcome for this Shuron

[grand flower]

Started his group as “the freedom fighters”

Dragon has also separated more island from the WG than Luffy has

[steel stirrup]

No other plans for the day?

[grand flower]

Dragon had probably hundreds

[muted hedge]

yeah he is, but he isn't the embodiment of Nika the warrior of liberation

[grand flower]

Luffy is on the scoreboard with a whopping Zero

[grand flower]

Or the warrior of destruction

[steel stirrup]

Im tryna live vicariously thru you Ari you gotta go out and do shit while you in Japan

[grand flower]

Or the warrior of laughter

[muted hedge]

that's more Loki at this point

[digital spear]

I mean Luffy will definitely fight Imu at some point, maybe thats the reason Oda brought him to Elbaf so Luffy can fight him here and Dragon later lol

[grand flower]

Almost like Oda immediately threw a wrench in that

[grand flower]

TALK TO EM

[muted hedge]

i don't see why you don't want Luffy to beat Imu, lol

[proud pivot]

Yeah not really

[muted hedge]

it makes perfect sense

[grand flower]

Because I’ve seen the vision of dragon doint it

[muted hedge]

Luffy is the definition of freedom, Imu is the definition of oppression

[grand flower]

And it makes perfect sense

[muted hedge]

i've seen visions of Luffy doing it

[grand flower]

So is Dragon

[proud pivot]

LMFAO bro I've done tons already

[muted hedge]

i would agree 100% with you, if Dragon had the fruit of Nika

[grand flower]

Unlike Luffy, Dragon is actually a hero who indiscriminately saves people from the WG

[proud pivot]

I am here for a couple of months so I'll take things slow

[muted hedge]

Luffy is the warrior of liberation

[grand flower]

Oda has already diluted this in Elbaph

By revealing that’s one interpretation

[muted hedge]

i'm talking through the readers view, we know that Luffy is the embodiment of Joyboy and Nika, even if he chooses to deny it

[grand flower]

Nika exists in multitudes

So does Luffy

That’s what makes em disrupters

The point is you can’t put them in a box

“It will be Luffy because he’s nika” ironically enough goes against what they embody

[muted hedge]

no, it makes perfect sense

as that's what the story has built up so far

[grand flower]

It doesn’t make sense for a character defined by being self-driven and defiant to outward expectations and responsibilities to fall in line with an external responsibility

If luffy finishes off Inu

It won’t be because “that’s his job because he’s Nika”

And that’s the only one that argument had going for it

[muted hedge]

it absolutely does, when you take into account that he'll be saving his friends by it

[grand flower]

Oda diluting the warrior of liberation thing hurts that argument a lot

[muted hedge]

Imu desires Vivi is a perfect lead in into it

Imu gets Vivi, Luffy gets Imu

[grand flower]

The fact that Nika exists outside off the warrior of liberation interpretation means we now get the door open

[muted hedge]

i don't see it as you do

[grand flower]

That luffy will be nika without falling in line with that

The fact that people interpret nika as more than just a warrior of liberation means the person who awakens nikas power doesnt have to be JUST the warrior of liberation

[muted hedge]

i won't ever accept anyone except for Luffy being the one who takes down Imu after all this build up, i'm sorry Shuron, i just won't

[grand flower]

They can deviate from that expectation

Which is how differing interpretations would come to exist in the first place

Deviating from expectations is what Luffy(and Blackbeard) are all about

The climax of the first third of the series was about that entirely

And you have Luffy himself establishing tjis is already his mindset

Think about this for a second

[muted hedge]

i've told you reasons for why Luffy would do it

[grand flower]

No

[muted hedge]

i have

[grand flower]

Actually hearme out before you respond

[rose rune]

It's 7°C outside. I can actually sit here with an open jacket and enjoy some pad thai

[grand flower]

Because this is something I’ve never seen people address

We all know Luffy is slow as fuck

[muted hedge]

if Imu gets Vivi, then Luffy will go save her.
it's that easy

[cosmic hamlet]

People are saying the skull from onigashima is god of war🤔

[muted hedge]

Imu saying outright that they desire Vivi
is a clear lead up into her being kidnapped by them, if you ask me
which will then proceed into the final war with Luffy against Imu

[grand flower]

The fact that Luffy is not very smart only adds emphasis to the fact that Luffy is the one in this scene who puts two and two together

No one else tells him “hey Luffy you’re like nika” here

He himself comes to that realization by connecting the dots

[muted hedge]

Luffy doesn't need to see himself as Nika or Joyboy for him to go in the path that they took.

[grand flower]

He puts that conclusion on himself