also-manga

[muted hedge]

is it? i think it's just reciting that the size is what causes the sky to be blot by the large frame of the dragon

[tardy isle]

Im wondering if void century had something to do with DF creation

[urban lodge]

Quite a glow up

[ashen perch]

yeah

[hot cairn]

I'm glad it's confirmed black

[rose rune]

he had nothing to chew on, so his teeth grew

[obtuse imp]

Dark-Dark fruit coupled with an ancient giant that can turn day into night

[dense rapids]

Prime Ratatoskr > Elbaph Arc Ratatoskr

[hot cairn]

I think so yeah

[tough dust]

isn't that obvis lol

[obtuse imp]

It’s crack I know but still

[brittle basin]

he will have to draw scales again if momo is back in action

[hot cairn]

I'll be right back, going to read the chapter with my sister

[unique lagoon]

ok old man spill all that info
this mf might die soon

[shell sinew]

no its just because hes big and blocks out the sky, he doesnt actually turn day to night lol

[tough igloo]

apparently not lol had a lot of people telling me it’s joyboy cause DFs didn’t exist in the 1st world so the god of war having one means it’s the 2nd world

[restive sierra]

imu is going to kill him

[blazing depot]

Vagueposting king, you love to see it

[stone tulip]

Yeah the chapter is better and it’s proving my point

[tough dust]

im assuming people just don't know that nika pre date joyboy by a lot

[muted hedge]

i'm definitely leaning towards it being Nika, though it could still be Joyboy

[tough igloo]

i don’t remember it being confirmed that DFs didn’t exist in the 1st world though ?

i thought that was just a theory

[stone terrace]

Years of no worthy challengers

[hot cairn]

I think it’s just because he’s huge

[pine ridge]

I think so

[unique lagoon]

ok im convinced now the loki eye has something to do with it

[muted hedge]

probably

[dense rapids]

Ratatoskr is older than zunesha

[ashen perch]

yeah, He also just drew Kaido in his dragon form again even when he didnt need to

[hot cairn]

I wonder whats gonna happen now, I don’t see the crew + Loki losing here

[unique lagoon]

the loki eye is basically the cycle of poseidon
but longer cooldown

[hot cairn]

things are going well

[stone tulip]

After what happened this week with another series (not even manga but rather a comic got leaked 2 weeks in advanced btw) I am legit considering it.

[muted hedge]

i'd say the chances for the next color spread featuring Nidhogg are pretty high, would you agree?

[restive wedge]

It would be hilarious if this transitions into a void century flashback lmaoooo

[tough igloo]

2 questions

1.) will Loki have a awakened form ?

2.) how soon til we see his hybrid ? (hybrids are always the best zoan designs imo)

[stone terrace]

Every 500 years someone with both the serpent eye and niddhog technique is born...

[ashen perch]

has this been posted here already btw? seems quite likely to me that Ryuma slayed a Niddhogr in Wano

[blazing depot]

Did Imu lie about the holy land burning it looked fine in that last page 😭

[unique lagoon]

also lokis mom fearing the eyes might have some point to it as morbid as it may seam

[brittle basin]

ah shit you got me there

[blazing depot]

I assumed that was the dragon from the Monsters OVA, since that spread is promoting it

[unique lagoon]

she prob aint that crazy after all

[stone terrace]

Yea it mightve been niddhog

[jade rain]

I think there were very few and just mythical zoans, in the second world is where the ancient kingdom created df's we know today just like VP created some

[formal wagon]

please censor kaido

[fast pagoda]

Imu isnt scared of Nidhogg

[urban lodge]

Huge Zoro upscale

[ashen perch]

the dragon from Monsters is not Jet Black, it stands out a lot now because of the color

[stone tulip]

Well we knew there are actually dragons outside Niddhogr in punk hazard so that might not be it

[pine ridge]

domi reversi can flip the odds very quickly

[blazing depot]

It’s a silhouette DUMMY

[hearty shore]

you mean the onigashima skull is actually a helmet and not a real skull?

[fast pagoda]

Oda's Sommers bullying boner is getting annoying now though we get it

[muted hedge]

what are the chances that the Nidhogg of the past was domi reversed, which is why Ryuma had to deal with it?

[unique lagoon]

you know what that onigashima skull dont have the tusk of an ancient giant right?

[tough dust]

btw joyboy fights the same way as luffy so he doesn't have the sheild and sword like nika

for those whos still not convinced lol

[ashen perch]

Oda drew that dragon in the color spread as jet black for a good reason, especially after we just got confirmation that that is one of Nidhoggr's main characteristics

[stone tulip]

I mean we don’t know when it was created officially, it’s all speculation based on the Harely text.

[tardy void]

skull too round

[obtuse imp]

What if the sword and shield have always just been symbolic

[unique lagoon]

this looks like regular giant teeth

[ashen perch]

nah I doubt that

[blazing depot]

Occam’s razor, might come in handy

[stone tulip]

Both Nika, Joyboy, and Luffy look similar to each other

[pine ridge]

for luffy they are

[unique lagoon]

does elbaf has their own version of ancient giants?

[dense rapids]

That might be him

[unique lagoon]

cuz oars jr is not from elbaf ye?

[dense rapids]

But how did he get to Wano

[ashen perch]

I think we're gonna see all 3 variations that Jarul talked about

God of War Elbaf - Regular Giant with Nidhoggr
Dragon that Ryuma slayed - Human with Nidhoggr
Loki - Ancient Giant with Nidhoggr

[dense rapids]

From the first world

[muted hedge]

it's possible that there were more human looking ancient giants back then as well

[unique lagoon]

yes

[muted hedge]

not all of them had to look like Oars

[brittle basin]

Are these the only instances in the entire manga of horns like these?

[unique lagoon]

oars

some giants also

[ashen perch]

also I dont think Onigashima is connected tbh, I think thats just the first Ancient Giant, not a DF user

[brittle basin]

kaido too?

[unique lagoon]

yes i think kaido has the same shape

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-kaido-yonko-the-four-emperors-kanabo-gif-24870026

[pine ridge]

the god of war has the horns

[dense rapids]

finally someone sees what I see Arsal

I said there must’ve been a human who used it because why else mention it and people said that’s nothing

That’s literally a Chekhov gun

Either a human used it before or a human will use it in the future

[unique lagoon]

but the giant horns varies

[brittle basin]

ok yeah he did have those horns

or close enough i guess

[crimson valley]

theres probably other dragon dragon fruits

[ashen perch]

he is wearing a helmet, the same as Jarul, who is a regular giant

[muted hedge]

what human will use it in the future?

[safe cove]

the one who fought god of war was nika or joyboy?

[dense rapids]

Black dragon

Black beard

[dim idol]

Nika

[muted hedge]

eh, i don't think so

[unique lagoon]

you have these horns also

[fast pagoda]

Blackbeard doesn't need the dragon

[dense rapids]

A human in the past makes more sense tho

[muted hedge]

it wouldn't fit with the narrative of only ancient giants being able to draw out the full power

[forest jacinth]

[pine ridge]

look at the size of ragnir. it matches loki scale

[fast pagoda]

Give him Kaido or Orochi's fruit instead

[ashen perch]

yea, I think the one that Ryuma slayed was the human user

[odd rune]

im watching OP with my friend for the first time and he was surprised at the size of Pica, looooool

[muted hedge]

i am sure that Blackbeard knows of this, if his father did

[brittle basin]

I need to know Nidhogg's narrative importance. What role did it play that Imu desires it so badly?

[odd rune]

he'll love loki

[brittle basin]

the red line?

[dense rapids]

So

First World - War God (Giant)

Second World - ??? (Human)

Third World - Loki (Ancient Giant)

[hot cairn]

that wouldn’t make sense no? Ryuma and Nika werent on the same age

[safe cove]

if bb gets it it won't reach it's full potential

[muted hedge]

probably just an asset capable of matching with Nika

[unique lagoon]

its hard to tell which one has the real horn cuz they put the helmet ontop of the horn sometimes

[brittle basin]

aw dammit

[odd rune]

ryuma was 400 yrs ago

[brittle basin]

i want something interesting

[hot cairn]

do it, it’s also a better reading experience

[dense rapids]

WAAAAAAAIT

[unique lagoon]

ok i see people mentioning this
but people also saying thats fake news

[muted hedge]

i mean, maybe this Nidhogg fruit could be Uranus

[hot cairn]

yeah and the OG Nika is from like the First World

[muted hedge]

that would be interesting, if you ask me

[unique lagoon]

where did that 400 years camefrom again

[dense rapids]

Is this the human in its hybrid form ?

[ashen perch]

Yeah, that doesnt mean its an Ancient Giant, I think the giants just were that big in ancient times lol

[brittle basin]

until further proof, i still assume Uranus is in Imu's possession.

[wraith mantle]

Rate chapter

It’s a solid 7/10

[formal wagon]

okay/10

[muted hedge]

10

[obtuse imp]

The sun in Imu’s hand is the Mother Flame

[dim idol]

10

[odd rune]

man i love that mural

[forest jacinth]

It's decent

[wraith mantle]

I notice you always give 10s

[hot cairn]

with Loki you mean?

[pine ridge]

maybe the only one capable of destroying the redline. as a dragon was shown fighting the serpent in the mural

[ashen perch]

I mean that its a previous user of the fruit

[brittle basin]

btw these koalas are cute as heck

[pine ridge]

yes or luffy

[candid slate]

I’m praying loki doesn’t die

[muted hedge]

yes, since they've been great

[dim idol]

Nah

[odd rune]

i wonder how the anime is gonna do the mural

[safe cove]

10/10

[wraith mantle]

I see

[dense rapids]

That’s never been confirmed canon

[brittle basin]

i can believe this, Loki is such a fat ass in dragon form.

[ashen perch]

@hot cairn

[obtuse imp]

That mural had Shirahoshi, King, Loki and I’m 90% certain the random fish is Jinbei

[ornate tartan]

shanks crumbs

[wraith mantle]

https://x.com/ccbuckwheat/status/2027375408543588640

🌟Mcbuckwheat🌟 (@CCBuckwheat)

💕🤌💕

X · Feb 27, 2026, 1:28 PM

[odd rune]

this one drawing alone makes sabo/koala better than most one piece ships

[ashen perch]

pretty much is, Ryuma defended the country from the Celestial Dragons when they lusted after it. That could only happen after the Void Century.

[tardy tulip]

loki is next nakama after owl give him ablity to shrink/enlarge --reaminder 2y

[muted hedge]

i think that chances of that serpent on the mural being Jormangundr rose very high, maybe since Nidhogg is the lightning dragon the Jormangundr would be a wind serpent? going with the idea that Dragon could've eaten that fruit, possibly

[dense rapids]

Wait

Just thought of something

A human couldn’t had have eaten it

No one ate it since the war god

[hot cairn]

that also makes no sense considering Harald has said that the fruit has been there for a long time

[dense rapids]

And that was first world

[unique lagoon]

yeah i guess ill just take that info with a grain of salt

[dense rapids]

Loki is only the second user

[unique lagoon]

ryuma vs nidhogg still possible

[hot cairn]

mmm

[muted hedge]

i think it's less likely

given what Buggy said

[odd rune]

this is true but the magazines contain actual canon material lol

as far as im aware

[crimson valley]

his pride wont let that happen

[dense rapids]

That’s correct right?

[ashen perch]

400 years is a long time

[dense rapids]

Ragnir was guarding it since the previous user died

[muted hedge]

if what Jarul told us is correct, yes

[dense rapids]

So nobody ate it since first world

[muted hedge]

no one has been worthy ever since then, until Loki

[unique lagoon]

im just confused tbh
one of those which is which

[hot cairn]

not in giant years

[dense rapids]

Yea so nobody else could’ve have eaten it

[muted hedge]

yeah, sounds like it

[formal wagon]

road to laughtale is canon

[wraith mantle]

So is Loki Roger level?

[dense rapids]

Which means it’s a Chekhov gun a human in the future may eat it

[wraith mantle]

Semi joyboy level?

[strong wadi]

Trying to force zoro upscale i see...

[muted hedge]

i don't think so, given that it wouldn't fit the narrative being propped up

[trim lily]

all the concept art is also in universe canon

[dense rapids]

Ancient weapon level

[rose rune]

they're so happy

[blazing depot]

Shoutout Killingham for being the only one good at their job

[trim lily]

oh yeah what happened to jinbe's plan

[brittle basin]

this was a sanji and zoro chapter btw

[formal wagon]

shoutout lucci

shoutout lucci

[warm sierra]

his plan was for the other SH to come

[muted hedge]

if a human chose to eat the Nidhogg, it would essentialy be wasted
given it wouldn't be able to extract the power relative to if an Ancient Giant ate it, which is why Xebec didn't eat it himself

[unique lagoon]

did he have one? i thought he was still thinking

[dense rapids]

Brook really got turned into a pack

[urban lodge]

Give him another year or two of thinking

[trim lily]

he deserves nothing for getting lucky with his fruit choice

[brittle basin]

told you brook was going nowhere against imu

[ashen perch]

also this isnt really important, whats important is Onimaru's own words. He is not talking about some distant void century or pre void century past, he is talking about a time when the World Nobles, the Celestial Dragons came after Wano and Ryuma send them all packing.

[trim lily]

hes just been sitting around while the portal spawns mobs

[blazing depot]

One of my favorites tbh. Like if King Von was offered a job at the CIA

[copper heron]

Why the translation looks way off from the preview 😂

[warm sierra]

the nightmares are getting their asses kicked rn what is killingham actually achieving

[ashen perch]

Brook definitely got thrown away miles by the attack that people incorrectly assumed was a block lol

[hot cairn]

okay so now that we know the fruit’s name, why do you guys think Rocks wanted the fruit specifically?

[maiden saffron]

mogging that bum kaido so hard

thats my verdict

[urban lodge]

Because he conveniently knew something about the previous user with no explanation

[maiden saffron]

goodbye

[sonic oasis]

Just getting into One Piece, should I skip to Wano?

[brittle basin]

yes

[ashen perch]

Elbaf

[muted hedge]

probably due to the prophecy that Jarul spouted last chapter

[brittle basin]

Wano thanks amirite

[odd rune]

Elbuff*

[warm sierra]

skip one piece

[trim lily]

oh right brook

[brittle basin]

elbarf

[trim lily]

poor guy is a pile of dust now

[strong wadi]

Galleila recognizes whoever has the fruit as their leader

[brittle basin]

usopp, do something buddy. anything

[pine ridge]

nah just skip straight to elbaf

[hot cairn]

but he didn’t know about Nika

[hot cairn]

that’s what I think yeah

[sonic oasis]

Gotcha, I'll skip to Elbaf. The art style is kinda weird anyways

[muted hedge]

you're right, but he knew about Joyboy so it's possible that he just didn't know that the powers of Joyboy were that of Nika, but he knew of Joyboy's fruit or something in that vain

[hot cairn]

that the Galleila are the followers of whoever has that fruit

[ashen perch]

this really should be the default assumption now

[hot cairn]

and Ragnir

[dense rapids]

Ngl I’m surprised Elbaph wasn’t an ancient giant

I expected the war god to look like oars

[ashen perch]

Brook didnt get offscreened or anything, he just got oneshotted

[wraith mantle]

https://x.com/r_a_ine/status/2027365213461426400

Raine (@R_a_ine)

🦖

X · Feb 27, 2026, 12:48 PM

[unique lagoon]

for some reason first time reading this i thought world nobles just means the kings and queens back then
but thats what the 19 families where called

[muted hedge]

i think he definitely was, partly at least

[wraith mantle]

@spice cairn

[pine ridge]

true and everything before elbaf is filler anyway

[warm sierra]

Imu so smart sending Brook miles away when he wants an answer from him

[wraith mantle]

Marx likes Ulti right?

[dense rapids]

He looks like Jarul tho

[hot cairn]

with this chapter, Elbaph is officially 50 chapters long…

[muted hedge]

well, sure
but i don't think that disproves anything lol

[ashen perch]

yeah, World Nobles is what the world at large calls CDs, regular Nobles are just called Nobles.

[ashen perch]

too much power

he didnt realize Brook was that weak

[muted hedge]

Marijoa didn't seem to be in much distress anymore, i assume that Shamrock dealt with it?

[dense rapids]

No I’m saying that Jarul wears the same helmet with horns and he isn’t a ancient giant

[urban lodge]

Maybe it was a metaphor after all

[unique lagoon]

also if first nidhogg was from first world timeline
then thats impossible for ryuma to face the guy

[hot cairn]

One Piece is never ending

[dim idol]

Aside from Loki's size. this is one of the reasons I think Loki won't join. He will have his own adventure and revive the frozen gallela giants in some way. He has ragnir who has ice powers so maybe he can defrost them and be their new captain

[dense rapids]

This guy just seems like a regular giant

[unique lagoon]

theory is dead then

[muted hedge]

it's not the same, i think it's just an ancient giant who looks a bit like Jarul and Jorul combined with Harald even

[urban lodge]

Ragnir top 5 Elbaf characters

[odd rune]

god that 50 chapters went quick

[hot cairn]

his fruit doesnt fit the numbers theory so he’s cooked

[dense rapids]

Wdym they’re the same helmet

[pine ridge]

the size of ragnir doesn't make sense tho

[odd rune]

half the length of dressrosa soon

[maiden saffron]

funny little critter

[ashen perch]

I think the distress exists in the city of the Celestials, and its just about them rebelling due to the food crisis. The assumption that theres a foreign attack on Marie Geoise was pretty baseless

[dense rapids]

Zoro and Oden

[formal wagon]

elbaf has like 4-5 chaps left i recon

[strong wadi]

When the vibes are just too good

[steel stirrup]

Hammer and a sword again

[maiden saffron]

the 5 chapters to go stuff is already starting?

[muted hedge]

that's true i guess

[ashen perch]

we're only 50 chapters away from the prediction I gave you 50 chapters ago, how you feeling

[brittle basin]

elbaf feels both like it's over and that it never truly begun

[hot cairn]

I think it was because of the celestial dragons going crazy because of no food

[pine ridge]

enma isnt a living creature

[muted hedge]

shocking then if they listen to Shamrock but not Garling or the other elders

[formal wagon]

i forgot egghead

[thick mango]

But if we assume mosa shirioshi doesn't that imply a broader crisis? I guess it's possible that assumption is false or they're two different events

[unique lagoon]

why did killingham designed his dream monsters to feel fear anyway
these aint real things

[formal wagon]

i thought we were 1 out for like 10 chapters

[hot cairn]

they really did, we’ll hit 2 years of Elbaph later this year

[muted hedge]

they are sentient, so i guess it comes with it

[clever idol]

Self preservation is bettee than not

[ashen perch]

different, I think BB is attacking FMI

[dense rapids]

You guys know the El Baphomet theory

El Baphomet = the devil

The War God Elbaph is the devil like how oars is called the demon

[odd rune]

[hot cairn]

I’m feeling good, I don’t see it going to 100 tho let’s see what goes down now that Luffy and Loki are here

[hot cairn]

I get what you mean

[ashen perch]

Elders are likely just uninvolved I imagine, its the HKs who are tasked to deal with the matters of the lower Celestial Dragons. Garling dealt with Mjosgard when he was the Supreme Commander, now its Shamrock's turn

[unique lagoon]

why? they will just get dispelled anyway
i can argue it would look cooler if these things fought mindlessly against a dragon they have no chance against

[thick mango]

The only thing about different though is it's a pretty big coincidence. Fmi is attacked and marijoa is in turmoil within a few hours of each other and no common cause?

[muted hedge]

yeah that makes sense

[hot cairn]

I agree 100% with this, it’s exactly what I’ve been saying

[clever idol]

The poiny is for loki to look cool and not them

They had their moment

[unique lagoon]

both

can work

[ashen perch]

the Marie Geoise situation has been boiling up for a while, I dont think it has to be connected if its just the Celestials finally reaching a breaking point

[unique lagoon]

these monsters trying to bite loki climbing on his body
and him just demolishing them would look better
but thats just me i guess

[thick mango]

Yeah but you get what I'm saying right reaching that boiling point right when teach happens to atk fmi is pretty coincidental

[odd rune]

moist critical title

[dim idol]

Can't wait for toei to make them all CGI including dragon Loki lol

[clever idol]

Sure but one is more important to the author

[rose rune]

I call this piece: "the duality of one piece fans"

[odd rune]

the marie gois situation is crazy

[ashen perch]

lmao

[dense rapids]

“Yea Dragon and Blackbeard are definitely about to destroy Mary Geoise one of them has it in a sea of flames”

[unique lagoon]

well no shit
im literally just saying my preference

[urban lodge]

Imu is a drama queen

[dense rapids]

Never taking Imu word for anything anymore

“Thou was never king”

[hot cairn]

I’m glad we got that panel on the right, now people can stop saying BB or Dragon are attacking. It was always too soon for that

[blazing mantle]

This chapter was genuinely peak

[brittle basin]

i don't know how to eplain it either. just a gut feeling i have. it hurts to say but at times what's going on in elbaf feels like a sidequest lol. i think it's because I don' think too highly of the god's knights and the severity of their mission/goals

[dense rapids]

I meeeeeeaaaaan

Wafitte is lurking

[blazing mantle]

Summers might be top 10 villains

[muted hedge]

too soon, lol
only 1000+ chapters in

but yeah i get your point

[stone tulip]

I guess, considering there is a chapter next week I may try and stay blindly I suppose

[ashen perch]

I do think BB has a broader plan here that involves his entire crew moving at the same time, so at the very least I expect him to get involved in MG too

[unique lagoon]

oh he got that godzilla spine or that one dino creature i forget the name

[rose rune]

stegosaurus or something

[unique lagoon]

wait no godzilla has 2 layers of spikes i think

[dense rapids]

“Loki used Thunder”

[safe cove]

say hey to zoro 👋

[rose rune]

damn! I was right for once

[hot cairn]

it is a sidequest lowkey and compared to how much shit went down in Egghead it makes sense that you feel that way. But I think this will be a really important/needed arc looking back when everything is over. It has heavy set up for the final war.

[hot cairn]

cook

[hot cairn]

Ik it sounds crazy to say lol but yea it is too soon

[tall wharf]

sea of flames does means motherflames or what?

[unique lagoon]

oh its 3 rows not 2

[hot cairn]

this is what makes me think that MG isnt being attacked and it’s just the lower celestial dragons goin crazy because of no food

[dense rapids]

Did anyone call the holy land not being in flames?

Or were all of us bamboozled

[hot cairn]

it is

[ashen perch]

Loki getting Domi Reversi'd is looking quite likely now, that was a major point in favor of the arc going a while longer. Its still difficult to say if my whole Heaven Realm retreat thing happens after it for sure, but we're getting a 2nd phase of the battle for sure now.

[unique lagoon]

did those dreams run towards imu ?

[hot cairn]

you won’t regret it

[blazing mantle]

I think they were just running away from Loki

[ashen perch]

the pieces are just blasting towards Imu

[hot cairn]

I did

Arsal too

I remember

[dense rapids]

Loki isn’t getting DR Imu left Elbaph

[brittle basin]

both egghead and wano felt like the stakes were higher. probably because Egghead had the mother flame and the gorosei all showed up with legions of navy ships. and wano had its whole oppressive history

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/JansenCTP19/status/2027479745638613122/photo/1

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Fiz um desenho rápido do Loki em sua forma Dragão

X · Feb 27, 2026, 8:23 PM

[ashen perch]

yeah, I have been doubting the idea of BB or Dragon launching a full scale attack on MG from the start, but I was fully confident that its a CD thing especially recently

[tall wharf]

that's why I have to wait for the official and im not sure

[dense rapids]

The only place getting attacked rn is FMI

[brittle basin]

but it's good to remember wano and egghead are complete, who knows what twists, turns, or stakes might be applied to elbaf going forward

[clever idol]

How so

[dense rapids]

Then BB will make his way up to meet with lafitte at red port

[dense rapids]

Mosa

[clever idol]

Oh ok

[forest jacinth]

Usopp dies

[forest jacinth]

This is a joke

[tall wharf]

Speaking of dark nika that made me think similar to Imu?

[hot cairn]

yeah the whole retreat thing is whats making me doubt it, I can see Loki getting domi reversid tho. Also, what do you think will come out of the previous user of Loki’s fruit being against Nika?

[unique lagoon]

i still cant get over this helmet piece stuck on the dragons forehead
is it just fused on his skull? wut

[urban lodge]

Yeah that's really weird lol

[jade rain]

This could have been the actual form all oda had to do was not make him fat, he just couldn't help himself

[unique lagoon]

thats why im saying its half silhouette cuz i cant see that shape at all

[tall wharf]

what if motherflames on helmet probably? just guess

[ashen perch]

also Jesus, you asked me what I think of the pace and like I said, nothing unexpected to me. We're rapidly moving towards a total Imu victory followed by Imu being forced to go back to Marie Geoise because of Brook, while the Domi Giants continue to rule Elbaf for him. Trust.

[brittle basin]

oda killing usopp without him doing anything would be so bad i would just die laughing at the absurdity of it.

[hot cairn]

yeah Elbaph is quite a different arc when you compare it to those two. But I think it’s a good one

[dapper tree]

Loki for SH

I'm still at work

So laters

[forest jacinth]

[ashen perch]

Might have been on Imu's side, if he did exist back then

[ionic palm]

I mean, seems like he did

[thick mango]

So are folks more or less bullish on reversi'd loki after this chapter. Imu taking a special interest says more to me

[hot cairn]

It just never made sense to me that they would attack NOW considering Dragon isn’t reckless and it’s waiting for the Holy Land to make a move and BB has other stuff going on

[brittle basin]

i still like it, and i love that imu is there somewhat. i just don't think the god's knights are doing it for me much as villains. like, gunko's powers and story are semi-interesting and sommers is goofily evil, but that's about it.

[hot cairn]

yeah true

[unique lagoon]

it looks way weirder here
odd design from oda

[ashen perch]

we're on chapter 4 out of 10, for reference

[tall wharf]

Does means it's part of lore when 3000 years ago (pls correct me if im wrong with math) that Nika and others?

[woven talon]

I just realzied

[hot cairn]

we still have a whole realm unexplored

[woven talon]

where is Brook?

lol

[clever idol]

It could happen and if it does we will see the key to beating domi reversi via luffy

[ashen perch]

yupp

[urban lodge]

Plus the fucked up eye anatomy

[warm sierra]

I have been saying this and people were just saying thats normal for zoan transformations

[unique lagoon]

wat

how is piece of metal on the head normal for zoan

[muted hedge]

i think it looks perfect, lol

[brittle basin]

i still do hold out hope for the heaven realm and UROUGE BABY LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOO

[hot cairn]

we’ll see

[muted hedge]

probably in pieces

[tall wharf]

Still figure out about gunko/Imu that what he thinks what was going on.

[ornate tartan]

bro is shocked every chapter😂

[hot cairn]

number theory hits again

[brittle basin]

Can't believe Oda killed Brook off-screen.

[unique lagoon]

did loki got injured in the past so they just fixed it with a metal plate at the top of his head

[dense rapids]

If Luffy claims Elbaph as his territory will that start a beef with Red Hair since that’s what happened with him planting Luffy’s flag on Gartel?

[hot cairn]

that’s really interesting ngl

[tough igloo]

Yonko Commander Usopp

[urban lodge]

If the helmet adjusted to his head and he was still wearing a helmet that wouldn't be that weird, but yeah, it literally fused with his head

[dense rapids]

Or is Elbaph not shanks

[clever idol]

Queen keeps his cigar (which grows in size) as well as his glasses. Its jjst a design choice

[brittle basin]

Shanks is now going after the one piece, so will there be time to care?

[tough igloo]

it’s not any pirate territory .. Shanks is just cool with them

[jade rain]

I'm not a fan of the fat dragon

[dense rapids]

He has time to care about bartolomeo

[hot cairn]

I’m enjoying them but I’m don’t see just 3 of them as a HUGE threat to the crew. Imu being here helps a lot tho yeah

[muted hedge]

i don't think so, given that Imu has stated that Elbaph and the World Government haven't been compatible and won't ever be, as they're "D"

[warm sierra]

but usually thats their entire outfit then. Here its not the entire helmet loki is wearing but just the metal piece for some reason

[hot cairn]

ahh I see

[clever idol]

Elbaph doesnt need shanks protection. Its the strongest nation

[unique lagoon]

its literally his helmet plate thing with rivets

[tall wharf]

How did Shanks beat up Loki 💀 guess his haki gonna against it

[brittle basin]

oh i thought you meant he would try to kill luffy

[dense rapids]

I mean not kill but they feel like people can’t just take their turf

[hot cairn]

cook

[clever idol]

Yea in full zoan queen has some of his own accessories too. Jack even keeps his haircut. Kaifo keeps his coat.

[dense rapids]

Idk what they’ll do

We saw how Yasopp is

Idk if Elbaph is shanks territory though

[oak sage]

Luffy knew that bastard is immortal, right? Because that hit was a killing one.

[dense rapids]

Nobody has said anything like that

[ionic palm]

Luffy and Shanks will likely ineviably have beef and clash later due to both now having the same goal, so Shanks and friends will presumably be an obstacle for Luffy and friends post-Elbaph

[ornate tartan]

Elbaph has Loki

[warm sierra]

jack keeps his entire coat too but loki doesnt keep the entire helmet

[brittle basin]

i hope it doesn't happen. i'd prefer petty beef like that put aside for the sake of the one piece and the sinking world and the overall endgame unless a plot point like that played directly into the endgame.

[hot cairn]

it isn’t, we would’ve been told by now

[dense rapids]

FMI has Poseidon and Wano has Momo they’re still the Strawhat territory

[muted hedge]

i think that Nika and the War God just sparred, similair to Whitebeard and Roger

[clever idol]

Yes. Im just saying its an accessoties thing. None of it is really consistent

[dense rapids]

This is one piece use the correct word

*Clashed

[unique lagoon]

did he make a fancy chair or is that somekind of tank hatch

[clever idol]

Looks like a tank hatch

Which is cool

[dense rapids]

You guys think Sommers is awakened?

[hot cairn]

why didn’t he use conquerors tho, is he stupid

[clever idol]

Or chair too tbh

[dense rapids]

Bro morphed his vines into machine guns

[ionic palm]

Luffy claiming FMI and Wano as his territory is more or less just some sort of "insurance", if Luffy did the same in declaring Elbaph his territory, then it would also be another case of insurance

[dense rapids]

Yea I agree with that

[ionic palm]

only difference I would say is that Elbaph can easily defend itself

[urban lodge]

He can do so much shit with his fruit that it wouldn't surprise me if he was awakened

[ionic palm]

FMI and Wano is a bit more iffy

[unique lagoon]

gotta give it to my boi sommers
he can be creative with that DF

[urban lodge]

He can even turn the thorns invisible

[ionic palm]

albeit, Wano can technically do the same

helps that their ruler has access to an exact copy of a mythical zoan fruit

[dense rapids]

I’m saying if it’s Shanks territory would they feel some type of way like about Bartolomeo putting Luffy’s flag in gartel

[ashen perch]

Speaking of that, I have been thinking about that. Elbaf is the name of the God of War, as mentioned by Dorry during Little Garden. If Imu is referring to the dude when he says "Elbaf IS D.", then whats the implications of that? Was he actually the first one to ever oppose Imu as early as during the First World? Maybe they were on the same side at first, until Nika turned him against Imu. I haven't been quite able to figure out but its super interesting.

[ornate tartan]

shanks and gaban are just two highly respected people by the whole nation of elbaph who were close with harald and have jarul trust

they even gave scopper loki keys

[oak sage]

He probably used it. Conqueror haki isn't enough to kill them.

[dense rapids]

When’s the last time we’ve seen a person this creative with their DF

He feels like Doflamingo

[tall wharf]

i guess he didnt alive next chapter (probably)

[dim idol]

I remember gunko saying that she fears Nika when sommers asked her. What if imu goes back to mariejoa at some point then killingham makes a Nika version from gunko's fear. I remember reading chapters ago someone saying that the mma monster are base on kids nightmares and questioning if they'd be stronger if they knew the real thing. What if killingham makes a stronger version of Nika from gunko's fear and that's what Loki is gonna fight and Luffy fights a nightmare version of Loki.

[rare ivy]

Yeah his days are numbered

[unique lagoon]

yeah i think oda made some mistakes here
he forgot to turn them transparent

[ashen perch]

they are transparent

[muted hedge]

yeah it's very fuzzy, though i definitely think that the war god is called Elbaph and he is a D like you say. i'd even go so far as to say that Harald is a direct descendant from Elbaph, hence Hajrudin, Harald and Loki are all D's as well

[ionic palm]

I'd rather Sommers stays alive as long as possible, him dying here would be giving him the easy way out.

[safe cove]

dang it this supposed to be usopp's ability

[unique lagoon]

thats a different shade

[urban lodge]

Sommers for straw hat

[dense rapids]

God Usopp wielding War God’s hammer soon

[unique lagoon]

was robins thorns the transparent version?

[ashen perch]

its definitely transparent here too, just the screentone making it unclear

[brittle basin]

usopp sadly feels like such a footnote in elbaf so far haha

[stone tulip]

Yeah I am gonna try and do that

[ionic palm]

Ragnir for new SH pet 😤

[brittle basin]

Ragnir for new emergency food

[urban lodge]

I keep forgetting how ugly Usopp's outfit is

[unique lagoon]

well no if you look at the first image you can see the outfit under the thorns
but others its covering them

[dense rapids]

Why’s Ripley acting like she’s dying 🤣🤣

[brittle basin]

RIPley

[stone tulip]

Don’t think I will, but I do hope i won’t lose to temptation or someone spoiled me

[dense rapids]

Another mom about to be gone

[ruby cape]

Manga chat frying my brain too much Usopp slander going on what’s good

[rose rune]

I do this every time I go to sleep

[dense rapids]

Bro went into the forbidden place

[brittle basin]

Bro, I think that squirrel just likes violence.

[stone tulip]

They are brain rotted

[clever idol]

Hes in the right place then

[ashen perch]

maybe yea, it was funny how the nightmare Nidhoggr was itself terrified of the real thing lmao, so maybe it comes back as a stronger Nidhoggr if Qilingham wants it to. Same with Nika MMA

[forest jacinth]

We are here for Usopp slander

[hot cairn]

I love this panel

[ornate tartan]

ragnir just vibing every chapter❤️

[dense rapids]

The kids won’t fear Niddhogg though since he’s saving them

[safe cove]

i mean hes a weapon from god of war, ofc he likes chaos

[ashen perch]

you can see furry coat underneath here in that panel

[ornate tartan]

love the lil guy

[dense rapids]

Shouldn’t this make the nightmares weaker?

[hot cairn]

itll be fine after the first week

[safe cove]

he's just happy to be there

[dense rapids]

The kids are getting saved by their nightmares

[rare ivy]

Monster Trio

[clever idol]

Yea this could be a thing

[ashen perch]

eh, he's still a massive dragon that has been very mean about the whole thing, idk, theres still gotta be a ton of fear

[dense rapids]

Those are the kids talking

[clever idol]

Its not just nidhogr, its nika, as well as even the mom. I could see oda going the route of kids overcoming their fears by beinf saved by them here sinces its been a thing

[dense rapids]

They were getting attacked by nightmare Nika and Niddhogg and now getting saved by them

[dense rapids]

Yea the nightmare moms too

You can even say nightmare draugr for Brook

[clever idol]

Plus i dont think qilingham will do the same thing

[dense rapids]

Nightmare storm for Zeus

[clever idol]

He may try something different

[dense rapids]

They’ll inevitably get saved by their nightmares

[ashen perch]

true true yea, I guess Qilingham will just need to rely on a different MMA when he fights

[dense rapids]

Bro gonna take over Usopp 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[ashen perch]

because he would be severely weakened if thats true lmao

[dense rapids]

“This is true fear”

[clever idol]

He can showcase othee abilities arsal lol

[dense rapids]

Bro I would die if Usopp is a Killingham power boost 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[unique lagoon]

i dont know what you are seeing but the right version is clearly covering the details on the outfit and the helmet
compare to the left
oda also dint bother putting thorns on the other kids which i get i guess they are invisible

[dense rapids]

We’re gonna be seeing the drugged out nightmare monsters

[clever idol]

But it being fear based inevitably means its weakened if they overcome the fear

Qilingham could even just make himself a nightmare lmao

He can give them something to be afraid of

[ashen perch]

I mean this part, the vines are transparent, thats how the furry outfit below is visible here

[ashen perch]

true but MMAs are a big part of his arsenal

[dense rapids]

So Ratatoskr is like 2,000+ years old?

[unique lagoon]

call it inconsitent then cuz its covering the helmet

[stone tulip]

I hope so

[urban lodge]

Wait did we even see the domi reversi'd nightmare monsters?

Did Oda forget?

[ashen perch]

there were no Domi Reversi'd monsters, they were just coming out looking Domi Reversi'd because thats what the kids were imagining now

[urban lodge]

Eh

[ashen perch]

Shuron kind of explained the difference to me, I was confused at first too

[ruby cape]

Does this push away the idea of Ragnir eating a Zoan?

[dense rapids]

Is Niddhogg (Thunder Dragon) its actual name or what they call it

[urban lodge]

That's so boring then

[shell sinew]

i imagine its a weapon that ate a squirell fruit and not a squirell that became a weapon.

[sturdy steeple]

Really good art this chapter

[dense rapids]

Like Nika is called the sun god but his name is Nika

[sturdy steeple]

Oda using more white space is good too

[unique lagoon]

sommers needs to ask greenbull for some tips
GBs plants are fire proof

[dim idol]

He'll turn gunko and sommer's fear into mma. Making a stronger version of nightmare Nika and nightmare Loki. Then real Luffy v nightmare Loki and Loki v nightmare nika

[urban lodge]

Even if they weren't literally domi reversi'd why did he not even keep the appearances

[ashen perch]

this is what was happening

[vital heart]

No theyre not

[clever idol]

Thats a cool idea but i dont think the mmas are enough here tl be a threat tbh

[unique lagoon]

dint raizo flame blast him
and he faked being hurt by it

[vital heart]

Nope

[stone tulip]

Yeah that’s how I interpreted it too

[vital heart]

Akainu burnt GB

[unique lagoon]

what are you on about

[urban lodge]

Isn't this just summoning little nightmare demons because the kids fear demons

[ashen perch]

I think the Draugr that Loki froze had horns

[trim lily]

he specifically had flame retardant plants

oh wait youre arguing in favour of that

nevermind

[unique lagoon]

he even mocked raizo for thinking fire would be his weakness

[ashen perch]

nope, he's resurrecting all of them this way

[stone tulip]

Yeah something about it huge improvement

[trim lily]

thats kind of silly

[urban lodge]

I don't buy it

[dense rapids]

Enel needed a ship to create clouds

If he was in the new world he would rival Loki

[trim lily]

why would their fear of demons combine with every fear

it would be two seperate ones as seen in those panels

[ashen perch]

because they are children

[trim lily]

oh ok

[unique lagoon]

you think nidghogg is immune to enels electricity?

[trim lily]

probably

[unique lagoon]

HOLD UP

[ashen perch]

they see demon, they think scary, they associate their features with other creatures

as a former child, I can verifiably say that this is how I would think too

[trim lily]

ive never been a child so i cant say for certain

[ashen perch]

yeah I thought so

[urban lodge]

That's not how the fruit has been shown to work tho

[ashen perch]

but this is what it starts from, Imu asks him to basically do better

[unique lagoon]

nika fought a lightning dragon ages ago
luffy immune to lightning fought a lightning DF user

[ashen perch]

and he just......... does better

thats it

[runic dock]

domi loki soon

[trim lily]

man i hate that its so likely

[ashen perch]

man it feels wrong to be so right lately

[trim lily]

luckily luffy can use his White powers to undo loki's domi reversi

[unique lagoon]

skypiea arc really is a prototype huh?

[runic dock]

tbh it looks less likely this chapter but we look onward!

[ashen perch]

it feels like I am using up all my right points, and I am going to be mega ultra wrong in the arcs after Elbaf

[runic dock]

cause imu went out of gunko

[unique lagoon]

or one big foreshadowing arc

[trim lily]

i mean with how overwhelming loki looks here i feel like its being setup for him to have a grand fall at the hands of imu

unless the arc just concludes in 10 chapters

[urban lodge]

Did he? I think Oda just forgot the second eye rings

[runic dock]

this is still true yeah

[ashen perch]

Yeah^^

[runic dock]

maybe that was it lmfao

[hot cairn]

why do people keep saying that Imu left, was that in the spoiler summary??

[runic dock]

u right

classic oda

[urban lodge]

Because it doesn't look like Gunko's normal eyes

So yeah Oda forgot

[trim lily]

combination of gunko not having the double ring eyes with seeing imu in mariejois

[mighty shell]

why would imu leave though

[trim lily]

exactly

thats very stupid

[ashen perch]

Gunko's eyes arent heterochromatic, but they arent ringed either, I guess maybe its a halfway state here

[hot cairn]

it clearly isnt Gunko’s normal eyes tho

[unique lagoon]

hes such a cockroach
this mf going to regenerate and stab jarul in the back

[dim idol]

Scared

[trim lily]

yeah

[ashen perch]

so the eyes are kind of in the middle

[unique lagoon]

nah thats a copout answer
imu wants elbaf too much

[ashen perch]

not ringed, not the usual heterochromatic eyes, just half and half

[runic dock]

gunko has one dilated eye and one normal eye, normally

[trim lily]

especially now that imu knows nidhogg is here i imagine theyd want to destroy or claim it

[unique lagoon]

you need to realize the complications if imu let elbaf fall for the enemy

[hot cairn]

What do you guys think will happen now that Luffy and Loki are here

[proper egret]

Omgggggg

[clever idol]

Nika + Nidhogg. Imu should either have the hk retreat or lock in

[trim lily]

either the arc ends in 10 chapters or imu turns this around on them

[clever idol]

Things cant continue as they are

[runic dock]

so is nika actually pitch black too?

[dim idol]

Luffy will play too much and Loki gets Dr

[urban lodge]

Domi Reversi Loki is inevitable

[proper egret]

In the first world sun of god & god of war fought against each & here, they are fighting together

[ashen perch]

big crazy attacks, big crazy interaction between Imu and Luffy, big crazy end idk

[unique lagoon]

i can argue if imus army lost here
imu would just go and try blasting elbaf into the void

[trim lily]

arsal do you still think we're going for 60 more chaps

[ashen perch]

Imu will win, he will beat them both, and then Domi Reversi Loki

[ruby cape]

Imu attempts to Domi Reversi Luffy and it don’t work 🔥

[trim lily]

ah

nevermind

[proper egret]

I think imu was a god of something

[ashen perch]

keep up, we're at 50 chapters of the arc now, I only need 50 more to be correct

[proper egret]

Or a devil or some

[leaden rivet]

Getting closer to Domi Loki

[quiet ice]

Loki lowkey the only one we seen one shot an immortal holy knight... an ancient giant on par with rocks at that. Luffy can’t KO sommers with a named attack #agenda

[ashen perch]

I was saying 60 when we were at 40 smh

[trim lily]

please oda give us the counter to domi reversi soon

[hot cairn]

I doubt this arc ends in 10 chapters

[proper egret]

I believe that’s just a silhouette lol

[ruby cape]

We just saw Loki be a hell of a beast of a dragon I am not ready for him to be domi reversid 😭🙏

[ashen perch]

Imu will wrap up his side of things in 6 chapters

[dense rapids]

Enel was Loki foreshadowing all along

[ashen perch]

more or less

[proper egret]

I mean I think they will disband the fight

And imu will try to capture lol

Loki*

[unique lagoon]

loki can block that ye?
to save elbaf maybe destroy the spaceship
not sure if he will survive tho

[hot cairn]

I’m really excited for the Luffy and Imu confrontation

[ashen perch]

same

[dense rapids]

Yea I think that branch he’s attacking his bigger than Lulusia

[proper egret]

Luffy will b so confused lol

[ashen perch]

its so close, maybe the big staredown as early as next chapter...

[trim lily]

oda would never tease it then put it off for several more chapters

[unique lagoon]

i can see nighogg blocking the ancient weapon blast
but he might just die trying

[ashen perch]

youre right, I am getting a bit ahead of myself, theres gonna be focus on the rest of the crew I reckon

[trim lily]

i wanna say i doubt loki is dying here but i dont know how oda plans to balance this fruit

[ashen perch]

next chapter

[proper egret]

Well, it’s been a while since someone who isn’t a government or a og pirate has this much power. He was locked up for a reason

But he doesn’t have ill intentions and he seems to have full control

[ashen perch]

but the one after... pre break week chapter? yeah would make sense to end it with the big staredown

[trim lily]

like genuinely loki has to be kneecapped or something after all this

or at least not just be an ally

[proper egret]

Wym not just an ally

[unique lagoon]

loki would be a great propaganda figure
we got a big ass dragon and he hates WG Join the resistance!

[trim lily]

idk a neutral party or wild card lol

how do you balance a character like loki as an ally

[proper egret]

?

I’m sorry, why does there need to be a balance

[urban lodge]

He'll be an ally but he'll be too busy going after Shaggy to be involved in anything else for now

[trim lily]

it kind of trivializes future fights no?

[mighty shell]

he really does kinda destroy the powerscaling huh

luffy's past allies have been like. law and kid. yamato. this is a little insane lol

[trim lily]

the 300ft death dragon is a little strong

[proper egret]

Do you guys not understand what is happening and the meaning behind why he was locked up

[trim lily]

i probably dont no

[ashen perch]

you just have to understand that Loki is not even actually Rayleigh level

[proper egret]

And you guys want to talk about “balance” and him being the strongest after witnessing and noticing there’s more to him than what meets the eye?

[ashen perch]

okay too much, but uh, I think people are overestimating him

[proper egret]

He isn’t the only one clearly.

[quiet ice]

He one shot his old man he’s just that strong brother get over it

[ashen perch]

we will see how powerful he is when he gets beaten in an amped up form by just Luffy

[mighty shell]

what does this mean

[trim lily]

i really dont know how else to gauge his strength

[ashen perch]

special anti regen powers

thats my belief

[trim lily]

you cant deny his size is absurd

[dense rapids]

This shot reminds me of pre ts for some reason

[proper egret]

You guys are that baffled by Loki? Not knowing what tf he ate and what he is?

[hot cairn]

however convinient it is for Oda

[proper egret]

He is a bit on par w Luffy

[dense rapids]

The shading

[ashen perch]

I mean theres one very clear point of reference but people are in denial

[proper egret]

What’s wrong w that lmao

[trim lily]

yeah im baffled how this'll work out story-wise lol

[ashen perch]

Shanks beat him

[trim lily]

well maybe

[brittle peak]

When is Loki getting nerfed?

[trim lily]

after the flashback we have no idea how the shanks thing went

[urban lodge]

Never underestimate late shonen power creep

[dim idol]

Even his teeth is black huh

[dense rapids]

Yea

[trim lily]

he couldve just beaten him (shanks w) or he convinced him somehow

[ashen perch]

Well yea we will see, but I do think Shanks just beat him

[mighty shell]

why is he so damn big

[urban lodge]

Shamrock will have something equally broken

[proper egret]

It means he isn’t the only strongest one, and that there are hidden powers within fruits that are from first world generation along with the will of D

[brittle peak]

One Piece will be different ( I am delusional )

[trim lily]

hes so cool he'll get two fruits

[ashen perch]

I was gonna say, the other point of reference, is that Shamrock would also beat him

[trim lily]

i mean yeah base loki is pretty chill, even with ragnir i think its pretty normal

but this zoan form is absurd

[proper egret]

There’s also BB w the DF tryna get a third

[ashen perch]

yeah big big dragon, but I feel like that would make fighting more inconvenient if anything

[urban lodge]

Shamrock will have the serpent zoan from the mural

[proper egret]

Idk why u guys r tripping over Loki beating everyone in a power scale

[trim lily]

i guess you could go with the "loki might hurt his allies if hes in dragon form"

[golden valley]

I thought you were gonna mention rocks

[proper egret]

1. It’s a given 2. There’s other gods out where we aren’t aware of

[trim lily]

i wonder whats stopping loki from just flying to mariejois and blowing it up

[urban lodge]

Rocks too, he is Loki upscale

[proper egret]

We know of 2 so far

[trim lily]

or i guess what stopped him

[mighty shell]

it just feels like if he's an ally there's not currently many enemies who would beat both luffy and loki but also i guess oda's working on introducing more enemies

[golden valley]

Well he couldn’t bc of Shanks

[ashen perch]

He is not even Egghead Luffy level, this will be further confirmed when Luffy beats up an amped up Loki

[proper egret]

I already miss my spoiled people

[dense rapids]

Isn’t sbs tomorrow

[trim lily]

maybe

[proper egret]

They were way easy going than mfs here

[ashen perch]

it could be

[tough dust]

high chance

[golden valley]

Egghead Luffy is a fraud

[dense rapids]

Insane rocks lore incoming hopefully

[trim lily]

kizaru beats him

[ashen perch]

well does that say about Xebec...

[dense rapids]

God valley lore

[golden valley]

Rocks would kill kizaru

[trim lily]

if we go down the ladder does this mean kizaru beats xebec

kizaru w

[proper egret]

Isn’t power scaling not allowed to be discussed anymore

[ashen perch]

Egghead Luffy would have also beaten Kizaru, it was just the timer

[golden valley]

You will see that elbaf and egghead luffy arent the same

[trim lily]

i dont think so but its a bit more frowned upon here

[wraith mantle]

Two and a half men

[mighty shell]

xebec wasn't even that strong everyone around him was just really weak. is my newest slander

[urban lodge]

"Oda-sensei, how does Rocks know so much?"
"Dw about it"

[ashen perch]

I literally believe this

[trim lily]

the old gen sucked actually

[wraith mantle]

I miss rocks

[golden valley]

White Star Gun isn’t an admiral finisher attack
Rocks Abyss attack is tbh

[ashen perch]

I think Xebec died before peaking, he died before anyone around him peaked either

[proper egret]

Because everyone has different opinions & they deny the facts. Why? Because we know a fight between rocks and Kizaru won’t happen but ofc ppl wanna c the vision. I hate to break it but rocks would merk him.

[trim lily]

we all clowned on chinjao but he was very representative

[golden valley]

I didnt

[wraith mantle]

No one could beat rocks except Imu

[ashen perch]

Chinjao>Xebec

[hot cairn]

who cares about powerscaling

[urban lodge]

I always believed in Chinjao

[golden valley]

I literally said Chinjao was a Yonko level dude

[trim lily]

this is a fact

[wraith mantle]

Imu had to come down to deal with rocks

[golden valley]

But I kinda take this back

[mighty shell]

all i'm saying is chinjao survived a garp encounter and xebec didn't

[trim lily]

oh absolutely he would

[trim lily]

but it’s funny to imagine kizaru beating rocks

[proper egret]

Right but u c how mfs are quick to go “well Loki needs to be balanced now that he’s so op if he will become a SH” like tf

[golden valley]

Chinjao is carried by his drillhead

And only his drillhead

[mighty shell]

you gotta calm down lmfao

it's not that serious

[wraith mantle]

How yall rate the chapter

[urban lodge]

Don't sleep on the continent splitter

[golden valley]

Without it, hes sub Sai level

[dense rapids]

8.5/10

[mighty shell]

this is really good

[wraith mantle]

Too high

[ashen perch]

and yet it did definitely knock him loopy, the fight wasnt going in his favor for sure if it was going to continue

[shell sinew]

9

[mighty shell]

i love this stupid ass squirrel

[dense rapids]

You every week

[ashen perch]

so true

[wraith mantle]

Love him too

[ashen perch]

I thought the chapter was a 9

not enough SHs, hopefully next chapter

[trim lily]

it was fun

solid 7

[wraith mantle]

Loki killed a bunch of mma monsters let’s gooo

[mighty shell]

i did like seeing that sommers' thorns had a natural counter

[hot cairn]

your pfp is cool

[mighty shell]

sanji upscale you love to see it

[hot cairn]

I don’t think Lok’s joining the crew

[dense rapids]

Some people really think Sommers is dead

[proper egret]

Yes but 80% of the ppl in this channel care about who’s the strongest, and if they will join no one can be stronger than the trio. They even frowned upon Jinbei and think he’s weak too now that some fucking ancient giant who ate a legendary fruit and has a companion from the first world bla bla what ever. Like I get it, but at the same time it was a given and we shouldn’t consider others weak because of what Loki has inherited and how the history is being brought to life etc. this is what the original world had, what’s wrong w it being brought to light again if its destiny?

[hot cairn]

are they stupid

[mighty shell]

what do we think about the cover page

[wraith mantle]

It’s trendy to hate on rocks here

[tough igloo]

can’t wait to see the other Elbaf Giants reaction when Nika Bonney pops up 😂

[hot cairn]

Oda forshadowing that Sabo and Koala will have 4 children together

[dim idol]

Nah wait for nidhoggr bonney

[tough dust]

i comptetely forgot about the existence of bonney

[golden valley]

thanks, wishing we got g5 elbaf fit

[proper egret]

Well they’re racist.

[mighty shell]

oh yeah we got vegapunk 2 still somewhere on the island

[warm sierra]

Bonney shouldnt have to fight this arc imo

[urban lodge]

Meanwhile Vegapunk's body is still rotting

[dense rapids]

OG Nika actually looks like he was going around causing destruction

[tough igloo]

we in the land that worships Nika too .. you know Oda won’t be able to stop himself 😂 Bonney gonna do it again this arc

[wraith mantle]

Lowkey true

[mighty shell]

og nika got the dogs out man

for free too

[steel stirrup]

Is it the black skin

[hot cairn]

yeah it looked so cool idk why Oda didnt use it again

[proper egret]

Well, I hope he does. It seems like Luffy likes him.

[shell sinew]

its not just about the trio. Oda has carefully crafted the four yonko to be relatively similar in strength to one another. Loki just destroys the power balance, strawhats would overwhelmingly dominate everyone in the verse. Loki + Luffy duo unstoppable

[hot cairn]

where tf is Franky

[dense rapids]

Word on the street Ratatoskr was in battle with OG Nika for 56 days

[proper egret]

Need to buy the figurine now lmao

[mighty shell]

franky season incoming

[dim idol]

What's with the og Nika? Isn't it just a df?

[hot cairn]

the number theory officially disqualifies him so the dream is over

[proper egret]

I believe it lmaoo against sun god yep. But now they’re fighting together, so the god they will fight against is imu

[hot cairn]

man I’m sounding like Archer now

[dense rapids]

There’s Nika Joy Boy and Luffy

[golden valley]

Ion think og is 1:1 like this ngl

[tough igloo]

nah the DF Nika has clouds , the one this chapter doesn’t

[dense rapids]

I think that’s actually the og

It isn’t a silhouette

That’s why we see ragnir and Elbaph

[mighty shell]

bro that's just awakened lucci

[proper egret]

Lowkey u not wrong

[tough igloo]

joyboy nor luffy also use a sword & shield

[golden valley]

I dont think its a silhouette either

[tough dust]

that makes a lot more sense

[proper egret]

Isn’t he also destruction

You’re about to scare me..

[dim idol]

A real Nika exist before the fruit?

[dense rapids]

Yea

[golden valley]

I think its Elbaf’s interpretation of what OG nika looks like

[proper egret]

The god or some lol

[dense rapids]

Naw because we see Ratatoskr before he got fat

[proper egret]

Isn’t sun of god kinda also destruction

[formal wagon]

HOT TAKE: that squirrel sucks and is stupid

[dim idol]

Looks like I need to reread lol

[proper egret]

He got buck teeth now lol

[tough igloo]

and his ears changed lol

[dense rapids]

That squirrel was 2v1ing Og Nika btw

[stone terrace]

Bro got chopperfied

[proper egret]

Well it’s been 800 years lol big changes

[formal wagon]

mascot = fraud

[dense rapids]

*1500+

[runic dock]

atp i dont trust oda, even imu was called that "black monster"

[proper egret]

Anyways isn’t the good of Nika of destruction as well

[formal wagon]

I DONT KNOW

[dense rapids]

Yea from what we’re told

[golden valley]

And growing a bigger two front tooth?

[tough igloo]

so .. does this also mean … Shanks was 2v1ing Loki & Ragnir? 👀

[ripe sedge]

Holy shit Luffy just half decapitated that guy!

[formal wagon]

he fucking hates the bums on his head W loki

[ripe sedge]

Not half as in he almost took off that fucker's head, but half as in he knocked off half of his head

[mighty shell]

i can't get over the fact that this is already giant luffy

[proper egret]

I believe the original Nika couldn’t control and became destruction. Luffy became liberation or some but he can destroy if it consumes his mind and soul

[runic dock]

luffy is highly destructive and goes around causing destruction everywhere too if u dont look at the details of how and why

[mighty shell]

how big is loki 😭

[runic dock]

big enough

[formal wagon]

like walmart sized

[mighty shell]

some would say too big

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/eggman-dr-eggman-sonic-announcement-this-big-gif-3748882616174241124

[formal wagon]

loki is as big as a wlamrart

[proper egret]

No he doesn’t look at his pretty eyes

[hot cairn]

insane

[proper egret]

He feels underwhelmed

I just find it cute how the squirrel hasnt questioned the son god nika unless Luffy isn’t the god of sun lol

[dense rapids]

Ratatoskr is the forest god

[ornate tartan]

he too busy vibing lol

[proper egret]

Like why he just going w the flow

[unique lagoon]

so how many SH will deal with killingham

[runic dock]

i assume the fight between nika and god of war is from the first world before devil fruits were invented

[proper egret]

Lmao cute he’s like “this is how it was supposed to be! Yay!”

[runic dock]

because ratatoskr and ragnir are separate

[hot cairn]

so how does the God of War transform into a dragon then

[dim idol]

Zoro fight him, Sanji fights sommers

[dense rapids]

It’s like Ratatoskr turned himself into a devil fruit without the fruit part

[runic dock]

fuck wait i forgot that part lol

hold on im thinking again

[tall wharf]

does means they fight without devil fruit that why.. it gotta be interesting when cook about how did devil fruit created

[hot cairn]

LOL no worries, I was thinking the same thing til I realized that

[tough dust]

at least we can put to bed that this is loki's power coated in the hammer

[runic dock]

to be fair, this is jarul recounting a legend, im sure some is lost within that, the details of how he combined with the hammer

[celest mauve]

I like the detail of even the monsters made out of nightmares being terrified of loki

[dense rapids]

Yea that makes sense

He could’ve just got turned into a DF

[unique lagoon]

i feel like gunko can easy cover the whole dragon with that arrow

[dim idol]

So the real Nika died and someone wished for the same powers and was reincarnated into a fruit

[tough dust]

pretty much

[dense rapids]

Yea

[runic dock]

well now i dont know, because god of war could turn into a dragon during that same fight

[dim idol]

Makes a lot sense now

[tall wharf]

Oh wait, if Joyboy actually get Devil Fruit Nika for the first time when they created devil fruit. So what do u think?

[runic dock]

but yeah that could be it anyway

[unique lagoon]

im just asssuming loki wont fight gunko in full from
and shrink to hybrid

[runic dock]

yeah

[runic dock]

im assuming loki wont fight any bad guys, because imu having DR

[unique lagoon]

whats DR again

[runic dock]

if u have DR and dont use it on such a large beast youre kinda stupid

at least try

domi reversi

[proper egret]

No. Ragnir probably understood.

[dense rapids]

But it’s weird

The war god could turn into a dragon

[proper egret]

?

[dense rapids]

Wouldn’t that mean DFs were already a thing in the first world

[runic dock]

^

yeah...

[unique lagoon]

well yeah imu will def try doing some domi

[dense rapids]

Jarul said the war god could turn into a dragon

[proper egret]

Yes we established that already

[mighty shell]

maybe he could just Do That

[dense rapids]

And the DF is Niddhogg

So that means DFs were already a thing in the first world

[unique lagoon]

now it just depends if luffy can cancel out the spell

[runic dock]

like god of war turning into a dragon naturally? shit maybe

[formal wagon]

WELL

[proper egret]

Bro what u tryna say? Mfs can turn into dragons if they giant?

[runic dock]

who knows how first world looked

[odd rune]

at least one loki big

https://tenor.com/view/usa-eeuu-trump-thumbs-up-gif-15528478

[dense rapids]

Wait that means the Ratatoskr fruit and the Nika fruit could’ve been created at the same time

[tall wharf]

Trying to figure out what makes Nika lose?

[proper egret]

R we gonna say kaidou a half giant and can turn into a dragon w his df

[unique lagoon]

i mean luffy cancelling the casting time of the spell
since the imu that dealt with rocks aint here

but im expecting blob imu to showup

[proper egret]

Spell is crazy works lmaoo

[scarlet nacelle]

as big as you think he is
not even jokes i feel like a random ass guess is the best way of finding out

[runic dock]

for me personally, i was trying to make sense of ratatoskr and ragnir being separate entities during the time of the nika fight, i thought it might be from the first era due to that, but i forgot god of war is stated to have already been able to transform into nidhogg during then, so df's must have already been around

[mighty shell]

i've been wondering if the first world has the properties that anyone was free to be anything through willpower. you didn't need the nika fruit to be nika, you could just do that. splitting it into requiring devil fruits was a way to subjugate the world

[runic dock]

possibly this battle was after first world still

[mighty shell]

i don't really know though

but i could see oda doing that

[tough dust]

i dig his fruit

[unique lagoon]

yeah we dont know this spell book works
with imus casting circle

[odd rune]

can we talk about how loki is 63 and in giant years thats like 16

[proper egret]

Yes they were a forbidden fruit for a reason

[runic dock]

that would certainly be something

[dense rapids]

Waaaaaait

So is the og Nika a DF user too?

[mighty shell]

isn't it more like 21

[dense rapids]

He doesn’t have the clouds

[safe cove]

it's like 21

[mighty shell]

giants live like 3 times the length of humans right

[odd rune]

no thats closer to 9+10

[runic dock]

theres also another theory that imu won in the first era and turned all the losers into devil fruits

[mighty shell]

no that is 9+10

[dense rapids]

Nvm probably not

[tough dust]

is it actually 16 ? i thought he will be around 20 something

[woven talon]

Thor is defo the previous wielder of Ragnir btw

[odd rune]

ok everyone is right and im wrong fiiiiiiiiine

[unique lagoon]

i dont know why people are taking that image as a 1 to 1 copy of the real ones

[hot cairn]

Isnt it 21?

[proper egret]

Cause if yall gonna come up w some crazy so will I

[odd rune]

STFU

[runic dock]

so were df around during the time of original nika?

[tough dust]

yeah 21 makes much more sense lol

[mighty shell]

idk macks i feel like loki might be closer to 21

[proper egret]

21 savage?

[mighty shell]

did you hear us the first time

[hot cairn]

you mean the god of war guy is Thor?

[runic dock]

i thought the df event was like a marking of coming into the second era but maybe not

[runic dock]

wouldnt the god of war in viking myth be Tyr or odin?

[tall wharf]

63 divided by 3 = 21 that easy

[odd rune]

https://tenor.com/view/javert-falling-les-mis-les-miserables-gif-16665771013826551159

[proper egret]

Lolllllllll

[runic dock]

tyr and then odin were both gods of war

[proper egret]

Stop

[ionic palm]

its 21

[proper egret]

The man wanted to cook some diff allow it

[ionic palm]

Loki in human years is basically the same age range as the SH original 5 lulz

[unique lagoon]

smh why they get 2 god of wars

[runic dock]

one killed the other i think

[proper egret]

?

[runic dock]

or something

[light rune]

To balance each other out

If there's only one god of war who will stop him?

[mighty shell]

?

[proper egret]

Ok, guys. Hear me out because yall r so confused idk why.

[tough dust]

63 divide by 3. yeah hes 21 lol

[runic dock]

tyr and odin both beng gods of war at certain points in viking myth

[unique lagoon]

you saw the images of the TV show? first image released already

[tough dust]

same as zoro and sanji funny enough

[mighty shell]

i have never played these games i'm sorry

[proper egret]

No. If you pay attention rn, the sun of god is more popular than god of war, why? Especially in Elbaf.