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So the time won't move fast for them?
i hope they just fix the pacing
Nope
1 chapter per episode
I really hope they do more than 1 chapter per episode.
yeah same
that would be nice but they might stretch those episodes because if they stick with 1to1 the ending point for the first part would be the mural episode
also did they confirm its still going to be 1ch per ep?

we'll get 26 episodes per year but like 33 chapters, whereas before we got 33 episodes and 33 chapters per year. it will be slightly better, but not much
They won't unfortunately
and the season would end before the start of the flashback
thats ass
yeah the 2nd one would end right after imu shows up
which would start 2027 with the flashback
well I hope the part where they can be faster is at the start then
1127-1129
the rest is hype enough
26 episodes a year i believe
season 1 won’t have a lot of things to heavily animate
That will be cool but I still wish we had better pacing
the pacing is pretty much the same
Watch 2027 just have 20 episodes with the Rocks flashback 😭
if its rocks then i got no problem ngl
2027 part one will be 1152-1164 then 1165-1177 if they follow the 13 ep 2 season format
Plottwist they animate until chapter 1159 right before God Valley and then they release God Valley as a movie 
heaven
would be cool if the rocks flashback was a whole movie
the anime will definitely animate the combo attack wonderfully
some fights that were offscreened might be shown too
Noooooo
Oooooo
The time for Canon One Piece movies has arrived...
Im wondering how they will actually adapt the mural
Do they just show Franky standing before the mural for 3 minutes
While Robin is reading the text
they will conveniently leave out the centre part that franky is hiding
u think theres something in the middle
?
100% definitely
hmm
the roots for example, they exist on the right but not on the left
wait you might be on to something here
there's definitely something going on with that lightning arrow thing
It's nami. Nami is in the middle
I've been saying this since the first time I saw the mural 
but yeah probably something that destroyed the tree, it's the part with the talk about "demons being released" and such
maybe its whatever that lightning bolt is hitting
or something that gotta do with 'elbaph'?

Clearly nami is summoning it
all I know is there is definitely something there
franky was staring straight at it too
chopper
remember that mural is biiiiiig af
who knows, might actually be true, the previous owner of his df or sum shit, who knows 
yeah we talked about stuff being hidden at the top also
as you see between those pages
also ignore that translation
oh dudee
i never thought abt that
i think most of the top is covered by the roots
that part just looks like small celestial objects idk
One Piece planets and moons
ye
if this thing is as old as i think it is then it could have covered the history of the moon people
why on Elbaph though
its old
wouldn't it be more reasonable if that was on Birka?
no, not the one on the moon
well thats different
maybe the birkan's were just too bad at drawing 
What on Elbaf
there's probably more to this for example
it looks like a small part of a bigger mural
i think its safe to assume enels city birka had all the good history stuff but those gone now
maybe some of its survived sure why not
why would the moon people have written their history on Elbaph?
i am talking about the Birka on the moon
It wasnt the moon people, it was random kids who drew what was going on and that covered the moon people
atm i think moon people migration is 1st world timeline
right
yeah iv e seen the popular theories that the moon people are the original D clan
that doesn't make much sense, as the D clan was formed by Joyboy from what we know
said who
well
that never stated
joyboy is 2nd world timeline
or implied
how are we sure the D dint exist during the first world
i say the D clan implies the original members of the country that didnt join the 20 kingdom alliance thingy
again oda made this whole cycle that keeps repeating itself
all we know about Joyboy is that he was also likely a D but never said he started it .. the king of the world back then was a D too
so far we at the 3rd cycle
the fact that Davy Jones name was Davy D Jones as king of the world makes me believe the D initial stuff started before Joyboy
well, Imu used the D as a label for the enemies of the 20 kingdoms
so, that pretty much says that it started in the Void Century at least
yeah
no one wants to talk about the first world cuz of how little we know
so eveyone just focused on joyboy 20kingdom and the void war
that's natural, given how little we know of the first world like you say
he Davy Jones King of the World reveal changed a lot . before we just knew about Joyboy & Imu now we find out a D clan member ruled the world before Imu
it even changed how i look at the mural now lol
before we just knew that Davy Jones was a legendary pirate
we barely have any crumbs to base the guessing on, though there is some leads i suppose
Imu is the bitter sibling of Davy Jones
we got plenty of stuff to go on
first the moon people going to earth
then we know there are winged people spread across the area also
so Teach & Imu related ? lol that would be a interesting reveal
it's interesting though as Imu doesn't label Davy Jones as king of the world and Imu existed back then, unlike Xebec. i definitely think that there's more to the story than just Davy being the king.
loki saying the mountains of elbaf is tens of thousands of years old
= first world
first world is also where the red line was inhabited by "gods"
japanese readers said the tone imu replied in was child like / bitter .. i think it’s as simple as Davy Jones was viewed as King of the World by most of the World except Imu and the 20 kings
the mystery 4th winged person on those drawings enel saw
thats a very good theory tbh being lunarians
could be
it’s like if Imu was revealed to be King of the World in present day , everybody isn’t gonna accept that and recognize Imu as their King
do we 100% know now that lunarians was living at the top of redline?
i forgot the wording of that
it's pretty much guaranteed
tbf I don't even remember who said that bit
yeah it was Newgate via Marco
back then , being King of the Ancient Kingdom probably came with being viewed as King of the World too since the Ancient Kingdom was so much more advanced than everybody else and more than likely had the ancient weapons
i do think the Davy Clan & D clan come from the Ancient Kingdom
these guys might have some connection with lunarians?
wiki, guess its confirmed 
theres 1 hidden winged person
what
more specific now
Ancient Kingdom could’ve been full of D clans and Buccaneers but the Davy Clan were the “ Royal Family “ of the Kingdom .. its possible Joyboy was also Davy Clan
ignore the top circle
with how Imu seems to hate Davy Clan more than every other D clan
we still need to find out what these "crimes" were that zunesha and buccaneer comitted
Imu basically confirms that the D is a label for the enemies of the 20 kingdoms
hose who opposed Imu and their regime, are the D
Marco has the worlds durablest glasses
and Saturn calling the Davy Clan bloodline special 🤔
Could be something as simple as they advocated for Joyboy to be King over Imu
Africaaaaaa
it could either be cause Davy Jones was just HIM and insane or Davy clan had both Davy Jones & Joyboy
That's my GOAT 🥹
All got melanin
Coincidence?
so what is it? was imu already king during the void war and joyboy was the rebels?
what did the ancient kingdom do? did they rule the whole world?
is the history we know now about 20kingdoms vs anicent kingdom just a lie
Where are the ear parts of the glasses
He's using haki for that
Wifi haki
🤯 Teach Kuma Kuma pops Rocks Davy Jones
you know what? ill consider that idea that the 20kingdom vs ancient kingdom history might have been made up
I see what Oda really doing
guys what u do when u get sent a friend request thats not from any mutual servers but is kinda of an old account
no wonder when the CDs saw Teach Grandpa they asked if he was a Buccaneer too 🤔🤯
he used the worlds strongest adhesive otherwise they would fall of in his phoenix form
Davy might've been king over the ancient kingdom while Imu later took control and labaled those whom opposed their rule and invitations were later labeled as the D
Probably still spam niggas get hacked everyday, B. And hey Ari hru. Wyd today
Oh the one on the left is the tonttata
Yessir
are we just going to say imu saying
"davy jones was never king not even for a second"
just a lie?
Or he melted them hoes into his temples so they never come off lol
Seemed childish
well...
what?
Seemed vindictive
i never neglected that thought, lol
more like imu got insulted
and iirc after that rocks aid "its just words" or some shit
Seemed like something that the NOT next in line would say
I am gooodnbroo Saturday toodayyyyyyyyyy yayyyyayayaya
Wbu
well yeah Imu lived through it, Xebec didn't
Got any fun plans?
Buying more Fate merch?
i get it we hate imu and hes a scumbag but consider what was being said
Gotta find some Ruler stuff
Nah I just gamed for the most part and then went out with friends to maid cafe
Maid Cafe huh
an evil character can be telling the truth you know
Is it what it sounds like

i agree, it's not like Imu lied about what they told Cobra
at least they have no reason to lie about it
speak for yourself! I ❤️ Imu-sama
Im open to both options
We shall see
imu is too arrogant to lie
I was the only female costumer there 😭💔
But yeah
It's sugoi
Imu calls Rocks “Davy Jones”
then later on Imu says Davy Jones & Joyboy will never return (already proven wrong )
then Imu said “ as long as I kill Rocks , Davy Jones & Joyboy won’t come back “ proved wrong once again
Imu says Davy was never King but has been terrified for centuries about the Davy Clan fulfilling the promise based around Davy being King 😂🤦🏾♂️
I gotta go to Japan
Ong
exactly xebec dont know the full history
but i think this promise stuff is accurate tho
whatever that is
You right but those arent lies as much as it's just Imu being wrong
😭
xebec dint even know about nika
which that alone making me question how much this mf knows
yeah that's odd
I eat spicy food, but I should be careful because of my acid reflux
Living on the edge
that’s open for interpretation
i thought for sure that he'd know about Nika, though seems like he just knew about Joyboy
i can cope that xebec knows nika
but in another name
Convenience man
Ain't it great
I've mostly stopped taking the meds for it now. Seems like I'm doing fine
Hello penny
Hi Arisu
Is that a super hero?
I feel like there would be some natural remedies out there that would be better
oh yeah not lies just contradictions and Imu just spazzing out cause Rocks told them that Davy Jones was King and Imu didn’t wanna hear that
Oh cool you're in Japan?
Yess
How has it been
Well avoid fatty food, avoid sour food, avoid chocolate, don't smoke
Sounds like something the runner up would say
Amazing so far, will be here for a couple of months too
I'm cooked
who do i trust with these translations man
tell me
Imu probably finessed Davy Jones for that spot lol Imu pulled a Blackbeard on Davy Jones 😂
how reliable is sandmans translations
That's awesome, enjoy
“ King of the sewer rats “ makes sense now lol
i feel like this is becoming more slander than a discussion, lol
Bb learned it from then
We have no reason to think Davy Jones is a trustworthy source
hm… seems like Joyboy, Davy Jones and Imu were the original monster trio
Of course his descendants are going to have a bias
You mean Rocks
Imu not gonna be terrified for centuries over something that ain’t even true lol
why even care if it ain’t true lol
Only things I think suck is the spicy and sour ones. I can do without the others
bore the name of the king of the ancient world
ngl i like this wording
cuz what does ancient mean in this context
They want his position
What spicy foods do you like
why is imu so terrified of davy jones coming back and fulfilling their promise that imu seems to know about if it was just all a. lie anyway
there’s clearly truth to it
They know time is running out
dint imu said "those people" wont ever come back again
not THAT person
Yeah
he said Davy Jones & Joyboy wouldn’t come back
yeah Imu meant Joyboy and Davy Jones
this promise thing seems like a Zelda-esque Ganondorf curse
which we know was wrong anyway
Damn Imu so racist
You people is crazy
that person is part of those people so its the same thing
CD are racist? wut
This is news to me
well yeah which brings us back to the cycle of events that keeps happening
i don’t think rocks would declare him as king if he was just a competitor .. i do believe that at one pint davy was king but Imu just never recognized Davy as their King (which is normal )
I think the truth is somewhere in the middle
Saturn isn’t calling Davy Jones bloodline “ special “ if they were just competitors lol
they were clearly viewed a certain way in the past
Good point
im still 50 50 on the idea of imu being alive during the first world
which would be tens of thousands of years ago
Saturn or gorosei or CD has never viewed any other D clan as having a “ special bloodline “ except Davy Jones 🤔
Their relation to Davy Jones is what makes them special, but the history passed down by the Davy clan doesn't necessarily have to be 100% true
i like the idea that it's more of a primordial evil ordeal
you don’t have to know about nika lmao
he knew about joyboy and that’s more than enough
Imu only talks about Joyboy as well
Buccaneers & Giants were the ones who praise Nika
so do people think jones had a nika DF?
and don’t speak of joyboy
Well that's Joyboy's power
everybody always talks about one or the other but never both
i mean if he wasn't Joyboy, then definitely no
Imu knows about both anyway
nah
why
Joyboy & Davy were likely the same era
Seems to be only one and JB had it
Davy probably had some shit teach got or gonna get
cuz theres a cycle ye? 1st world nika also appeared no?
wouldn’t be surprised if yami yami was Davy Jones DF
and that’s what davy jones locker is
The drums are associated with joyboy not jones
the explanation for davy jones locker in one piece is just the yami yami so far lol
but what about the nika during the first world timeline
we ignoring that?
I need to read the mural I dont wanna misquote but I think it says Nika was in the first world but icr if he was physically there or if thats when the "idea" of him was born
what do you mean ignoring?
we've been talking about the Void Century
cuz they said nika showsup when the world is about to reach some great turmoil ye?
yami yami has been theorized for over a decade to be deep sea water since the actual translation of one of his moves is dark water
i mean, yeah?
and luffy being the one changing that stuff
What if I failed twice
yeah I’m a believer that Davy Jones had the yami yami … Teach entire journey of becoming king of the world was all based around him getting the yami yami first and if he didn’t he would’ve given it all up
pls dont destroy the world
Sometimes needs must 😔
Eris must’ve told him some shit that her & Rocks knew about it
at least let oda finish OP first
I think Eris is the one who made the plan in the first place but I can't prove it
agree , makes the most sense .. she knew about rocks plan
even said he was too early , and gonna . make sure to don’t make those same mistakes with their son
so what luffy and teach follow the same ideals
but luffy focused on the freedom part
while teach followed the ruling /king of the world part
It's so funny to imagine Eris telling him to go join Whitebeard's crew and wait for the fruit to appear and if it doesn't he just rots and dies
I think Rocks was the power but she was mostly the brains
Rocks had high battle iq but he didnt even know who Nika was when he talked to Loki
I think Eris is the one who came up with the plan I think everything that Rocks knew he learned from her in the first place
it would be sad/funtny/fucked up if Eris told him to betray WB after getting the DF 😂 “ once you find the DF , fuck newgate he’s no longer useful “
would definitely be a crazy reveal if all this was somehow orchestrated by eris
Ares is
oh ok
She looks too much like Robin and both BB and Robin are in world archeologist, i would argue the only thing Robin has BB doesnt is the ability to read the ancient language other than that he has been so far very knowledgeable when he needs to be
possibly but idk since Teach is the only one in history ever able to do that , idk how Eris would know he can do it
Goddess of Chaos and Discord
i think that Xebec knew from the start, passed it on to Eris and then Eris passed it on to Blackbeard
unless she had some shit done to him as a child that made it possible for him to have multiple DFs later on
Kinda sad that we didn't get a single clue about how the multiple fruits thing works in the flashback
i honestly didn’t expect it this flashback anyway lol
hey wait a second, was clover ever on GV? 
hohoho
I doubt it
But I'll say, not that we know of
did i hear eris
Maybe
We got told in MF, it’s cause of his unique bod. Just follow his gym routine
sadly knowing Oda .. Eris probably died a brutal death right in front of Teach
I think theres a solid chance shes still alive
lol cmon now
If she is dead she may have just died
Anything really
lmao let’s be fr here
possibly at teach's hands
i don’t think so
i definitely think that Eris died
did we have any matricide so far?
Teach himself killing her would be fire
we know that Blackbeard was an orphan when he was found by Whitebeard
Other than doffy has anyone else killed their parent?
But Oda would never
Shit Teach was plenty traumatized by GV him watching his mom get slimed out is just overkill
I think that’s a special class of evil
You'd have to look hard for anyone less wimpy than me when it comes to food
i think a Holy Knight or Gorosei killed her .. they found out she survived god valley somehow
theres like a 10% chance eris died at god valley
What's spicy food like over there
huh
oof, kuma just transporting a corpse? possible
Maybe Kuma teleported them over a volcano
so do you guys think thats why imu blew up lulusia
Wtf are we doing
i think it's just because it was the close proximity
i don't think it was any more grand than that
we saw how serious Imu was about not letitng Eris & Teach escape so they would def spin the block if they found out they survived lol
well doesn't seem like BB gives a shit about that so I kinda doubt it?
They said, "cause its close" but they could be hiding more
but if we saying HK found Eris in lulusia
If that's why it genuinely retroactively ruins the Lulusia scene
you know imu could know
I think Imu be lying. He’s a spiteful creature
It’s time for a new nickname
Won’t admit to have such petty motives
this is possible
Eris seems to have made sure that BB and her stayed off the radar until Teach was ready
Not overly spicy. Though you can find crazy stuff if you go off menu on certain restaurants
CDs have been proven liars this entire series .. it’s consistent lol
among those 500 people kuma saved there may have been more D's, true
sure is, though i don't think they're lying about Lulusia specifically
they've got their eyes on Blackbeard now, whom they know is living on Hachinosu
Is food made spicy with like sauce or is it mainly spices
maybe Eris & Teach never even made it to Lulusia and Kuma sent them somewhere else
Most definitely
their desperation for this purely stems from the idea of Xebec suffering by seeing his wife and child die by his hand
Oh I don’t think it was to get bb. Just he’s spiteful at places where enemies rose up against him in the past. I expect bad things for Arabasta too
Not too many places they could have gone unless Kuma made more stops as a child slave that we didnt know of
its not , its about the fact that Imu believes that killing all Davy Clan will stop Davy Jones & joyboy from returning like they told rocks .. especially rocks own family
Only places for sure known are Mariejois and Sorbet Kingdom
“ such dangerous lives can’t be set loose on the world “
ah i see, well maybe yeah
though i don't think they'll do much against Arabasta as they already plan to sink the world
I dont think its impossible to think that Kuma made more stops along the way we just don't know where
Chances are they ended up in Sorbet
true cause it’s not like Kuma heard her tell Rocks to meet at Lulusia and he ain’t have time to ask her so who knows where he sent them lol
Sorbet makes no sense because they'd stop at the red line and he'd have to paw them away again
reminder that kuma basically sent the weakest SH to the arguably most dangerous place
it's definitely part of making Xebec suffer
they turned Xebec specifically for him to hunt down his own family as well as his lineage, and then go berserk on the whole island until nothing is left but himself only for the island to sink into the bottom on the depths
It makes sense for him, Ginny and Iva but literally hundreds of people?
I doubt Mariejois is where he sent
It's probably some random islands he stopped at along the way to god valley
It comes down to the places we know he visited up until GV and he was a child slave
do we know which island Blackbeard was found at by Whitebeard?
This is serious
At least the Arabstan people will have water now 😅🤣
lol, that's dark but true
Yea this is probably what it is but we havent been told about any of those places explicitly
This is like the 2nd or 3rd questiom u ask on the first date
Shit your guess is as good as mine
maybe he was sent to Drum Island
though, it's not likely
i'm just saying it because he visited it before
I like this idea because its seems to be the first place he went after he left WBs crew and it was the first place we learned about the D
It has to be west blue, north blue or new world
But again no confirmation he actually went there
yeah Imu wanted to make Rocks hurt but regardless if it was rocks or someone else , if Imu saw davy clan about to escape , that was their biggest worry since their biggest fear is Davy Jones & Joyboy returning … this the same clan that they said they’re been trying to find for over 800 years just to wipe them out
Norwegian food itself is not spicy at all. But we import a lot, so both
yeah, also if Kureha took care of Eris and Teach for a while
i think that would make sense
East blue, south blue and paradise are on the other side of the red line
No way
she's so mysterious
wtf did Davy Jones & Joyboy do to Imu .. centuries long PTSD is crazy 😂
kureha met BB
nothing
they both lost because they didn’t have woro parallel
easy to answer, Joyboy and Davy Jones were the closest to ending their reign
Im glad they censored D*mn
i wouldn't be surprised
He made Wapol run away which implies to me that he was either targeted by him or at the very least Wapol was in his way, between him and something/someone he wanted
Crud
yeah, it's definitely something to that
no it's canon, I read up on that recently, BB was the one who destroyed drum island and kicked out wapol
yes, but i mean i wouldn't be surprised if he was there to see Kureha
oh, yes, true
My question is "why"
Why did he go there first
After he got his fruit and left WB it was the first place we know of that he went
yeah right good timing, after BB left and kureha instantly met luffy next, yapping about the D and all
maybe it was for the aid of Kureha, she is a doctor after all
My counter would be he has Doc Q. Seems lore related imo.
Chopper does not have a medical degree
was Doc Q on his crew at that time?
a even crazier question is how tf did he have his crew members that fast .. was he recruiting while on WB ship or was he like Luffy and just speed running the recruiting process lol
who was that dude from the west blue with that "incurable" disease anyway?
Yes
damn, maybe Doc Q wasn't knowledgable enough for a certain area
so he had to seek out Kureha
maybe to find crew members
wouldn't surprise me if it was related to eating two devil fruits
who? wapol?
what would kureha be able to tell him about that
Maybe
He seemed to be open to it. He definitely asked Ace to join.

although hey wait, wapol did invent that super alloy, maybe BB did want his DF
why not? Kureha is a mysterious woman
we know almost nothing about other than that she knows of the D
scientists have tested and did experiments on the multiple DFs stuff and stuff so he should go to them instead of a Dr
she was also called a witch
she’s a doctor not a scientist
Only thing I can think of is something only someone as old as she is would know...
Kureha was the first one to reveal Roger’s
name
if the gorosei didn’t know how Teach was able to do it , i don’t see why Kureha would .. they older than her
and know more
Doctors are practitioners of medicine, not scientists 
I don't think he went to her to learn about Devil Fruits
i think them calling her a witch will be a big part
could be linked to how hes able to use 2 df powers
yeah the drum island visit he had is a mystery
Another point
maybe her 100 years of practicing quackery actually yielded results, unlike saturn
and even funnier that half the citizens of Drum Island view him as a hero for running of Wapol 😂🤦🏾♂️ it only they knew who this man was
Ceasar is a better scientist than Saturn as far as I’m concerned
Shes 143
Maybe he needed to know about something and shes the only one he knew who was old enough to know and wasnt a tight lipped Celestial Dragon
i wouldn't say they viewed him as a hero
I could buy that too
The legendary 2 Augurs panel
LOL
Mhm
Biblically, even
Kureha knew of Roger's real name, so i wouldn't be surprised if she did know of Xebec as well
cause Rocks Pirates didn’t have a doctor on their crew right ?
maybe Kureha was his doctor lol
Unrelated but this was a decently accurate silhouette. Not 1:1 but it’s mostly there
Its just Doc Q without Stronger
he would go visit drum island
Oh yeah cus the d
Kureha may know about the Davy clan
Crocus but before him no not that we know of
I think so
oh hey right wait a second, who the fuck is even bink? joyboy or what?
That may be the case, but it’s funnier for me to imagine that Oda accidentally drew Auger’s silhouette twice
Does Kureha translate to anything
True lmaooo
prosperity
Would love an edit of creepy nuts otoniki with her
There is that idea that he was after Chopper's fruit
Right right
Maybe he thought it was another human human type
(I never watched that show
)
That song is still fire
why did Teach attack Drum Island
why did Teach attack Baltigo
I don’t believe the reason Morgan’s gave in the papers “he wanted their weapons “
Teach heard the mistranslation and thought he could achieve enlightenment if he ate the Human Human fruit
wait it's the only hito hito normally known, right? maybe he thought it's the nika DF?
he should’ve hurried up w his plan before woro was born
Hell nah I wouldn't buy ts if I had exact change
like why the only pirate crew who fucks with the Revs is Teach crew …
Yeah it's possible
everybody else just leaves them alone lol
baltigo was just a middlefinger to the revs for being competition
Oh you should it's good infact the Japanese dub has luffys voice acctress and they say wild ass thing compared to Luffy lmao
He does things for a specific reason. You’d think BB would want to work with the Revos since they want to bring down the World (Imu)
I think its more to it
Too goody goody
Blackbeard is extremely dumb to even consider going after the Revolutionaries, when he should just wait it out and swoop in when the Revolutionaries are pulling their trigger
It really is honestly creepy nuts got all bangers
I never thought about why BB was at drum island until now. He never does something out of nowhere
Yessir
Wake up Rob
I’ve been woke
Smell the dark coffee
maybe just looking for any useful info, like on poneglyph locations or whatever, maybe swoop some cool DFs along the way?
You woke but now you awake too
I actually don't think it has anything to do with Kureha
She doesn't seem to have met him
maybe to gain reputation
You think its the fruit
Or Wapol
question is are u awake yet?😂
She only says the thing about the D clan after she meets Luffy
by the way the thing about Blackbeard destroying the island before they even knew what was happening could just be Lafittes hypnotizing powers at work
Ts aint nothing to me man
I think the fruit
was any of the island destroyed when Luffy got there?
bodied that drank
Im not today so I dont get dependent
No Wapol or maybe even the Issho
Or however its spelled
The devil fruit part maybe but the revos wouldn’t have any poneglyph location. The only thing I can think of is just to pick up Burgess and get revenge if anything
There’s nothing to gain by attacking drum island tbh
from what we know
Maybe they stole some tech from Lindbergh and used it to save Burgess
ace was there
Pleasure?
Ace was there after BB. BB wasn’t looking for Ace, Ace was looking for BB
word on the street is zoro soloed an army equivalent to the navy
woro
Right right
Idk about Wapol but maybe it did have something to do with the doctors, Drum is known for that
what if the island had a hidden poneglyph
could be just someone with a DF they want also
i think that’s kinda what he’s plotting do .. it seems everything was leading up to whatever Teach & Lafitte are about to do to/with the Revs now
Maybe Doc Q needed something
you're right
You’re right from what we know there’s nothing on drum island except … doctors 
Maybe it could have something to do with Lafitte
still, it's dumb to make a move against them and not just wait it out
not really
hopefully he keeps his patience now
my goat
now that we know pirate island has a glyph
maybe BBP was also collecting some stones
what’s the point of waiting if you can attack them now and gain something from it
it’s not like it messed up his chances later on
he just sees an expoitable opportunity and seizes it, the revs might have found out BB knew their location
well, there's a lot of points to it especially since the revolutionaries goal is clashing with Blackbeards, he should just let them dethrone Imu, do the hard work and then swoop in and sweep the rewards just like he did in Marineford
I'm late
Dragon way of doing things & Teach way of doing things are so completely different that it would be waste of time trying to wait it out
I thought BB really went for baltigo too take revenge for burgers
he know’s they ain’t dethroning imu though
To what, White Rabbit?
he’d be waiting for nothing lol
When we leave Elbaf we might find out that BB is raiding Mary Geoise or something
But most likely the reason he took a advantage was the same reason he was after Colby and ace
He wanted to use dragon or Sabo as leverage to get into the kingdoms
Peak but I doubt it, I feel like its Dragon or something else unforeseen
well you're failing to see the bigger picture here, i am saying that he should wait for the Revolutionaries to start with their side of the war so he can have an easy path towards to rewards that they're setting up, for example like dethroning Imu while they're taking care of the other stuff.
that's just york throwing a BM style fit after finding out there's a food shortage going on
probably given their were no casualties on Baltigo
the Revs have been at this for decades .. how long you want him to keep waiting lol Teach & Luffy aren’t waiting like the Revs are
If Shaggy is Shirahoshi he's probably going to FMI
!cook
I think it's ether BB or sakazuki. Would be crazy if it was a wild card like the cd are upset that there is a void century so half of em started revolting
he can’t just back and wait on the revs when he also has to go after the one piece which is gonna involve everybody
How long has it been since swamp boy made contact with bb pirates
doesn't matter, it's a smart choice to wait for the Revolutionaries to pull in their men into the warfront so Blackbeard can go behind them and sweep the rewards
and it seems that Blackbeard is currently waiting for the Revolutionaries to make their play
Uh like 3 days I think?
Wait sorry why would bb wait for the revs
it’s not a smart choice though cause the revs aren’t doing that
Not a lot of time passed after egghead
your saying. teach should wait for the revs to do something that they NEVER do lmao
have you considered that bb might be stupid?
So he probably is going to make contact with bb by the time elbaf ends right?
what do you mean they never do?
But hey, if Shanks can get to Marineford in like 1 afternoon...
they aren’t going to the frontlines to fight Imu and the CDs .. Teaxh would be wasting time waiting on that
Probably already happened offscreen
Luffy more likely to do that than the Revs
we know that they're preparing for a war, lol
at this point you're only downplaying them
Bro using his arm to warp lmao
I think Oda will show us this tho since we kinda have followed Karabou whole journey
well, i wouldn't say that he is stupid but luck certainly plays a large role in the outcome of his efforts
i’m not downplaying them i’m saying how dumb it would be for Tesch to wait on these people who’ve been doing the same thing for decades when his actual competition are constantly making moves
Wheww edit fix
waiting on the revs would be the worst decision for him
and still he is waiting?
Blackbeard is waiting as we speak
that's why he told Lafitte to hold on
he’s not waiting though , he still robbed them & destroyed their base
still making other moves
unnecessary moves
unnecessary ? lmao huh
you don't know that
Directly invading Mariejois doesn't fit Teach
BB probably moving on to the next step of his plan since he has Garp as leverage and knows location of two ancient weapons
well, it is
Teach has bigger stuff to deal with than wait on the Revs lol
You know I am curious tho wtf laffiette is doing tho
okay, have you considered that BB thinks it necessary to aura farm? 
capturing garp , getting saturn appearance , getting poneglpyhs are unnecessary moves
it’s more than the revs have ever done
devon said that was the mission
though tell me what he gained from raiding Baltigo
Instill don't get how the f that's going help when homie is all bones
not really
Unless she copies powers
dragon is already dead and was replaced by devon 
Or a clone
yeah, but they didn't know that Saturn was there
we domt know that
Devon piece and clone piece
their plan was probably to steal the apperance of a satellite
that headcanon though
the manga never says that at all
all the manga showed was when devon touched saturn she said their mission was complete
it was probably to control the pacifistas
ooooh, that's the best suggestion for the "why" I've heard yet
Devon & Augur were at Egghead and stayed the night yet the mission wasn’t complete til they ran i to saturn .. they could’ve touched the other satellites at any point while they were sleep if that was their mission
My little brother just told me
Skibidi Warcury
Tung Tung Tung Saturn
Im so proud 🥹
Im also proud of my father who said Nusjuro is Mr. Clean
!cleansing2
what the actual fuck 
who the hell makes these commands
imu
The past goats of op discord
she also says that him being there helped them quite a bit, which implies that it wasn't their goal at first but it made a suitable replacement
not to mention she said that it was unheard of seeing the elders descend from the holy land
maybe they expected imu to show up 
I thought she meant leaving the ship
?
she says it after saying that she never heard of elders descending
like them descending from Marijoa aided their mission
She originally wanted vegapunk's brain fruit, but an elder is better
maybe it's just "get a copy of any of the marked ones"
it's interesting that they didn't stick around longer, maybe they didn't know of the punk records
I mean. Why stick around in a place like that
none of this implies they didn’t know he was coming … Devon saying him coming made their job easier doesn’t mean they didn’t know he’d come , it could simply mean their plan was to always copy a gorosei appearance but now that one isn’t in mariejois is made their job much easier .. it doesn’t mean they didn’t know one was coming to egghead with the marines
i think they wanted to get the appearance of anyone who was in the hierarchy for the seraphim as Blackbeard recently saw one in action on Amazon Lily
She was going after seraphim control imo. That's why vegapunk was an original target but gorosei are even better
we have different interpreations of it clearly
but Devon & Augur were around the satellites for 2 days and didn’t touch any of them
yup
even while they were sleep
i don't remember where it stated that they were there for 2 days
Only we have to go on is when the ship arrives
ah
gorgeous
My GOAT
I don't remember the day stuff myself tho. I thought it was just one day
yeah, me too
w
That’s the official OP account
it was that mini timeskip I think, we dont know how long it was
Oh wait
They do it for everyone’s birthday
Why am I not reading well today
Think it was just the night we skipped
They don’t do it for everyone’s birthday but yeah Oden is pretty important so they did it and rightfully so
Piratefolk told me that oden is a bottom 5 one piece character
What’s the big idea
PirateFolk is filled with braindead morons
agreed
Piratefolk is usually not a reliable source
the brains they had have turned into mush
😭
piratefolk is the 4chan of one piece
Is this real
Yeah
No
How big is ragnir
those are just universally good memes, "pirate folks only" memes are what is problematic
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Luffy might be the King of Pirates, but one day, I'll be the greatest eater on the Grand Line!!
We ordered one of everything (in stock) at the One Piece Cafe, in Las Vegas, NV!
Curry, Cakes...
Common wafalo W
i've never understood the appeal of memes to be honest
they're fun 
Or it aided the Blackbeard pirates in general and their mission only started when they heard Saturn was on his way
Anyone eating anything close to luffy's amount dies in the process
Play metal gear solid 2 Kojima will explain it 10 years before mems were even a thing
Did the bodhichoppa guy get banned
Long time coming
It seems we go in waves
Guess they just got tired of the guy doing the same gimmick
wasn't the term "meme" coined in like 1800 something?
We get an influx of white names lol
could be, though i think they just got lucky in this instance
In the 80s or 90s
Yeah I'm going to screw this up but I believe a meme is like a thought that multiplies between minds and consciousness ?
But Kojima predicted we would all be about memes in a few years mgs 2 was like 2004
Maybe 2002
wait wtf, that's 50 years ago, memes have their 50th birthday this year?
Terms change. Like the hipsters of today are nothing like the hipsters of the 40s
Memes were parasite 🪱 waiting for the Internet to come in and evolve so it could infect it lol
Richard Dawkins came up with the concept in 1976, as a concept of a unit of culture that is carried transmitted down the line through a variety of ways
Shits crazy in it self but basically inside jokes
Internet meme came into popularity because a singular item is carried by the internet rapidly proliferating through it
Richard Dawkins famously shared funny cat pictures and astro boy panels with funny texts
Im not sure hipsters are even a thing anymore
They aren’t
Lol I always think of the GTA scene with Trevor
Theyre called performative now
When Michael calls him a hipster 🤣
depends on the culture, they very much still exist
Hipster culture has entirely declined in popular consciousness like 10 years ago
I feel like Cali and ny still has hipsters
Valid crashout
Waiting for the documentary: the last hipster
Hipsters are now true Monsters
"but everything changed when the fire nation attacked" ahh
Man that scene had me lmao people don't understand how that game was so fresh when it first dropped lmao
I need to find the last hipster to restore my honor
No. It's just a fake lumberjack owning a tiny bee farm somewhere
Uncle Illoh...
Damn it's witing it self !!
I'm dying from laughter btw, it's so beautiful 
Did you know this btw
oh my
Wait this was before the Shamrock reveal
I love how this is secretly a Shanks twin brother = burnscar man theory
girlfriend is a waterbender and can make whirlpools, lol
the more I think about this, the more perfect it becomes
whos shamrocks gf
Iroh would be proud
nvm im slow i havent watched avatar
Sandman did say that shamrocks appearance would matter soon
And he appeared surrounded by fire

you should, its great
gunko
i might
i should also watch Avatar
its her year
the year of the horse
the horse of agreement's year?
those blue people are cool asf
has a sequel too, and a live action show, it does not have a live action movie, trust me. oh and more animated and live action to come
creature design on top
Everyone decides to watch Avatar in the year of the horse
oooo
what was his gimmick
Chocolate box
when do i get embed perms
!pics
You are able to post pictures after you reach level 10. Check your level by typing ?rank in #bots.
oo alr ty
Good theories
They silenced him because he exposed the Shanks facade
bro almost figured out what happened in the VC and staff (wg) slimed him
he was ragebaiting for sure
His theory is incredibly funny because dude just never accepted evidence that was presented contrary to him
exactly
And the story itself is evidence to the contrary of his theory
he never backed his theories when someone countered smthing
what was the reason he got banned for tho
was that his gimmick tho
Being arrogant and not being receptive I guess
just bad theories?
i see
if he was ragebaiting it def worked on me
were they the one who said that Shanks and Shamrock are the same person
Wait who got banned
they once said gold roger faked his death and is still alive
based if so
lol
i keep coming to this server to look for spoilers but i forget that its break week 😔
where is barch btw
I will say most of you guys don’t even know how to theorize. You just random bullshit for engagement farming
havent seen them in a while
Who is engagement farming in here bro lmfao
Buggy
wait was it that blue name guy just named "Buggy"?
I don’t think he was “engagement farming” per se
Nah iagl the otherday when he said “blackbeard doesnt even have blue hair” i almost slammed him on his neck
Yeah he has a Twitter too. Just mass producing theories
peak theory 🔥
Buggy and Evil Buggy are different
and he's the one who got banned? or did I mistunderstand that?
I don’t think so
Bodhichoppa (evil buggy) got banned
But he’s the one that comes to mind when I think dogshit mass theories
yes exactly, that's why I'm asking
idk if anyone does tbh
and now Usopp will fight Killingham because he always has to fight his nightmares ... good theory if you ask me
Yeah but evidence from a non canon filler is not really a good argument
so glue
holy nerd
Thats joe being joe
I think Oda drew that but let me check
This typical joe guy just throws whatever at the wall and hopes it sticks
I only know Joe cuz he has beef with Grandlinereview
i mean i was convinced by denies lobby for a while
Joe is never engagement farming when theorising btw he deadass believes what he writes
I’ve argued with him on Twitter a bunch of times
Basically he said YouTubing is easy and got told to do it and he was like “well…”
im part of the demographic that falls for stupid theories
I don’t think he engagement farms but his theories are pretty stupid
I miss high quality theories from here like Loki is the hellfire serpent
By our MARTYR Socrates
WE ARE SOCRATESSSSSS
They are so stupid, it's at a point where I'd rather be glad if he was engagement farming instead of being serious
channel dead after he got banned
Someone posted a good theory recently #manga-theories message
Peak schizo posting
Nah facts that nigga had every loki connection possible
Shoutout Cricket in the corner
Like I don’t like stupid theories but I like schizo theories
Shamrock killed kidds mom
It’s kinda funny that he ended up being more like the monster in the middle of the mural
I still think he has a shapeshifting zoan
I seen that
Seconding an Omni-zoan
Shamrock/shanks and kidd have a 16 year gap between em, so ill assume kidds mom dies around the time shanks is 24-25 (pre blackbeard fight) shamrock for some reason probably had to kill kidds parents (or just his mom because oda) which lead to this hate for shanks
Bro went after shanks 3x, beckman blew his arm off and he still dont gaf about benn
Something had to have happened
It would be crazy if kid had a connection like that

I really though he was shanks kid tho
I think he’s just a raging bull that saw red
When they first introduced him
Shanks nor kidds story is done yet so hopefully oda touches up on that
They took the same arm as shanks right
I gotta few decent theories 
Doesn't that play into the whole left eye right eye theory's
Like was shanks making a kid a n Allie of Luffy forcefully
Yea
I kinda want there to be a larger connection between them now
Or did shanks take kids arm lmao
He going to show up with this weird ass arm to fight Mihawk
"I'll save it for later"
Dead ass
It would be crazy if he had like a bunch of arms he switched in an out and could use there devil fruits
But wasn't it beckman or someone else who took it?
You know that scene where Luffy has a sword and Zoro just wants to see it
"Happy birthday cap'n"
I imagine that's what happen with beckmen and shanks 🤣
"Hey beckmen let me see that arm "
Beckmen be like na cap this mine right here
"It's nice and firm, and muscular too..."
Proceeds to use the arm like a hammer
predictions for next chapter?
Everyone dies
will we finally get the the luffy vs imu confrontation
No
Monsters lunch
luffy is near the docks, is that far from where imu is?
Imu has to have at least one moment more with brook before luffy shows up
Because oda
I have seen the patterns!!
!patterns
Hands off my musician
"I'm sorry luffy. I'm leaving the crew. This is the last time we'll see each other"
"Tell me you want to live brook!"
Insert "but im already dead" joke
I wish someone lamer would have replied, so they could walk right into my trap
@hazy turret did your guys make it into fats’ account like you were telling me about?
@grand flower did you apply for staff?
@proud pivot just continuing the chain
No, I go on dates
Good for you bro
Bro touches too much grass and got bougie
Bro's a pookie
Our musician comrade
Real cutie patootie shit
im gang
Pattern: Luffy has punched every character and being in the series associated/named/is “dragon”.
Except for one.
pattern: sanji has not hit women yet, so i dont think he will in the future.
Cracked ???
He hasn't punched Belo Betty
this sounds glue
They were met by a powerful guardian spirit
They couldn’t defeat it
I hate this dog
im kinda sad oda had all these dinosaurs in wano but trex was some rando
Counterstrike?
the trex fruit user
I don’t recall any dragon representation or title with Belo Betty. She neither is, is named, or is symbolically a dragon.
There isn't one
Do you mean Drake
no drakes an allosaurus
Associated with Dragon 
exactly
Did he punch Belo Betty ? Am I missing a chapter?
I'm confused on what your point is
As just stated
No, and that’s what I’ve said twice now
no cool trex 😥
Hopefully 
Y'all aint ready for HIM
But what if she is, some dragons can shapeshift
TRUE
