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Then luffy fights
even during battle
young money dash is on dressrosa
I feel really sorry for all his slaves 
The guy is on Dressrosa
I was like why does this look good
Then i remembered fmi got a remaster
Indeed, I love that the strongest in the world of the title is talking about them.
Corrida Colosseum
The power of a mothers love is the strongest in the world
Much better dragon than Loki could ever hope to be 😎

I do hope he does something differently from breathing fire
Yet another mera downscale

I mean, from this shot you can tell they are all engaged in combat. That's what the background is for
what is the best anime in the world?
Fairy tail
How does Kaido feel now that he is only the second strongest big horned dragon zoan user who tried to khs from a high place and looked up to Rocks
Azumanga Daioh
i think kaido well back
What do you think it is?
black clover
loki is the lebron to kaidos michael jordan
Its actually kinda bothering me
Loki and kaido never met?
Kaido would try to adopt this guy
WB did meet him
Maybe? Not sure how many times Rocks brought his crew with him and most of the time Loki didn't care about any of them, only Rocks
and Stussy
i think emo is the final boss in one piece
Why the heck would Kaido adopt Loki?
Hes strong and they have similarities
Wouldve been cool but Oda seems to only want Loki as a Kaido replacement
Its almost like looking in a mirror in some ways
And?
And thats what Kaido wants
Honestly yeah he's what Kaido wishes Yamato was
I think there was more to that, plus they happened to be at the same facility together. Kaido may not have even known Loki. Plus Loki would have been a kid for much of Kaido's career. They do grow 3x slower
Because god valley sucks ass
Loki mightve gotten too strong later tho but in his younger years Kaido def wouldve wanted Loki
WB was too strong to be at GV
We are saying if Kaido knew Loki
Oda had to make an excuse to remove him from the island
I try not to think about it

Honestly true Sb
WB would literally never abandon his captain
Just pretend like it never happened
thats out of character
true, really doesn't make sense
😭
Kaido could have taken in any giants if he wanted to, but none except for the lab created ones
Whitebeard sees theres clearly something wrong with Rocks and leaves him alone, but Rocks enemies Roger and Garp know something is wrong
Garp of all people figures out it's a curse of some kind
Well ask Oda what happened since that's what happened
its bad writing
Or maybe WB is more complex than you give him credit for
Whitebeard sees Rocks with demon wings, fangs, white eyes, being double in size, and just attacking BM and Kaido. Then decided to leave. Very unlike him
Not every person is going to act the exact same way in every situation
Maybe Whitebeard thought it was a Zoan
YESSS...
Hilarious dialogue
Its so funny
yesss
oh Sb I haven’t seen you in a while
What? Youre evil?
Yurrr
You could say that. But he literally saw Xebec get stabbed then transform and then start attacking his crewmates instead of Imu
I took it as, WB helped Rocks, then Rocks went against him and he got wiped out, said "okay then, I'm out"
Wb: ok
LMAO
leaves
Oh yeah Gram exists
Yeah it doesnt make much sense lol
He was on his way to leaving and Gram happened into him
howdy
Shame we'll only learn about his fate in an sbs
what have you thought of the last few chapters?
Hopefully Marco will talk about him
I hope nothing is ever said about him again
Like the other Rocks Pirates leaving makes sense they cared more about themselves but Whitebeard is like Rocks day 1
Bit of a slow start to the year, but looks like things are getting interesting now
Imagine how much more hype it would have been to see Roger, Garp and Whitebeard vs Xebec. Maybe Oda thought that would make Domi Xebec look too strong, who knows
But why 😭
I see
Marco is PoloGram
Thats true but I do need the Polo Marco namedrop
Seeing those 3 fight Rocks would be the best thing ever
The Pheonix fruit revives you...
WB just wasn't on that level yet
Yep. I think gram had the pheonix fruit, died somewhere, and got revived and idk changed his name to Marco
I think its because he already established Roger and Garp vs Rocks and couldnt go back on his word now, but yeah wouldve been cool
I just saw a comment say that Sugar is Monet’s sister, is that true???
Yes
How did BM figure it out but not WB 🤦♂️
She's older than Monet too I think lol
Or Whitebeard didnt need to fight Rocks but help them by fending off Holy Knights or something
that’s crazy
W Mom
I think the readers would have been okay with that and just said the government didn't want to make it seem like Garp was working with another pirate or something along that lines, so decided to pretend Garp only teamed up with Roger
Yes lol
I don't think she really figured anything out either. Cause she said who cares just as fast
''What did it do to you'' implies she sees the change in appearance
I think shes still younger
It could be that she just thought him injured
The rocks pirates will forever remain the strongest pirate crew, even when one piece ends
at least use the superior TCB translation and not this third-rate one.
I think she's older, she's just stuck looking young
mihawk stakeholder, is mihawk automatically yonko level by proxy of shanks
I looked it up Monet is 29 Sugar 22
Big Father
Yeah, you're right. I don't know why I thought Sugar was older
Locked in as soon as I read monet
Idk where I got that from either
what did you even lock in from
Good character
Yes, but I think current zoro's strength also shows that Mihawk is at least Yonko level, cause Zoro still isn't as strong as Mihawk
#somethingsshouldbekeptsecret
Viz has been and always will be the go to, sorry. Even Meek makes mistakes
opscans
I think someone might automatically think that if they heard of this scenario that the sister is way older than she looks so it creates the funny situation if she is older. But Oda just made the sister younger that is younger anyway
so we can assume that eos zoro will be yonko level too, and oda said sanji is equal to zoro, so sanji will be up there too
SH crew will be cracked EOS, I'm not sure about rock pirates holding that crown forever
they didn’t even use VIZ, but some lowest quality third party translation
Im so glad Oda gave us at least 1 Rocks and Loki talk lol
We need more Rocks scenes ngl
So glue...
we 100% will get more with the Roger flashback
That's like, the last thing we need
We need to learn where he met Eris and why Lulusia was important...
we HAVE to see how they met
Why Roger cares about him so much
Facts
This motherfucker hijacked an entire flashback

Yeah, but the Rocks pirates had Rocks, BM, Kaido, WB, Shiki, etc. I guess I could see the strawhats getting stronger, but the rocks pirates still seem like they'll have more overall top tiers
good
Sommers gave us like 10 new reactions from this chapter alone
I love Rocks why can't he still be alive and become the MC by killing Luffy
I have been wondering. What if Imu just strips Sommers of his rank and takes his contract back, leaving Sommers alive and weakened, but in disgrace. Imu says he'll let Joyboy and his minions finish Sommers off 🤣
I need to know how Roger and Rocks know each other
Loki will surely avenge Rocks
This would one oieve make good ti think
I am sure @urban lodge would love this idea and support it
Roger flashback ?
i guess they were shipmates in their childhood
This would be cool
I understood this
W
Yeah we'll probably learn more about Roger in the future cuz of Shanks
One piece becomes solo leveling
they probably met in a similar way as to how Luffy met Law and KID, they just ended up at the same place
naah, oda is gonna make him suffer
A 10/10 ?
I need a ASL flashback but for Roger, Garp and Rocks
we could get a Shanks flashback but Roger hijacks it
Finally some real fun 🗣️🔥
Ah OP scans, the one that was sure that Imu was confirmed as "he" this chapter even though Imu's totally male at this point that is beside the point
I’m tired of flashbacks bro
what’s ASL?
Oda should just make an old gen manga at this point
Roger is Luffy Rocks is Ace Garp is Sabo
Imu might give sommers a slap on the wrist but sommers brings up that it was imus fault causing imu to fully crash out
Well we are having another one soon with Princess Shuri and Brook
Do we really need a 15 chapter + flashback every arc bro

Fake fan detected
Ace, Sabo, Luffy
I feel like Oda has been presenting Sommers as too much of an asshole for him to not get a painful death or something similar
Sengoku is dragon. Kong is Dadan
It’s always about how their parent died as well
Exactly
I don't think they knew each other that well. Rocks and Roger barely engaged the entire flashback. I could believe it of Roger and Garp though
Whatever encounters happened that made Rocks trust Roger and Garp enough to be the ones to kill him
Asl were brothers
this fuckass holiday
ASL with Akainu Kizaru Dragon when
why does Ace wear BB’s jacket?
He is evil
Forgot flowers?
what are you doing for valentines sak
He kind of had no choice he just knew they were good people and strong enough to do it
Get some money and forget about them hoes
You can cry for people that are not your friends. Especially if you feel their emotions so viscerally. I think that's what happened with Roger. They even said something to that effect
I don’t think they need some deep relationship
I didnt say they needed one i want that
nothing much i can do at 9 pm im committing DUI
We all need this
The question is, why did BB steal Ace's jacket?
Theory: Blackbeard is Ace
we have a break next week life sucks
!break
Bro smoke a blunt and relax
People still believing Dragon even knows who Akainu is...
more importantly, why did Ace steal two of Zoro’s swords?
Fuck my break week chud life
Sak either call that bitch and get her back or stfu
I still want to believe Oda can write well
Can you park and not do that please?
bro life been better since i left her fym get her back
Then whats with all this Rah Rah
Crying and shit
Ripley being a mom and still being alive. She might as well be top 1.
What if she's the first mom to die in real time
Zoro lost them 😏
😭Ari lmaoooo
Gaban has good taste in women
I would've climbed that mountain too
5 moms just survived this isnt Oda
they wouldve done called me the mountain destroyer
5'3 tonttata brw
suddenly i want to explore caves
LMAOO
Gaban honestly got the better pick compared to Rayleigh
Ripley is gonna look that good for ages
they survived only to die more tragic deaths later
Collun was trying so hard to be Luffy but he has a loving mom, an present dad, a full healthy childhood with school and friends and toys? Collun could never be a pirate at this rate.
Let’s not lie now
ay oda answered in an SBS its possible
speed laugh is universal
I'm being fr, Shakky has aged... Ripley is staying that way until Gaban dies of old age
Ray just be drinking and cheating on his wife
Elbaf parents are breaking all the one piece parent stereotypes.
Wait 5'3 is crazy
Imagine a fish is telling you youre cooked
Scopper and ripley have a much better relationship
Idk
😭
5'5 aint any better than 5'3 so i guess im 5'3
Yeah but she’s like 20 metres tall how would it even work
Self nerf is crazy
5'5
Im 3'8"
Chin up so you can reach your cabs sak
Well when a man & a woman love each other....
Sak stands for Short Ass King
5'5 with shoes then, that's basically 5'7 dawg
thats foul
at least im a king
It’s like cave diving though
Truly
we take these
One great cave to explore
You will meet your Taq soon
At least its not as bad as BM & her Tontatta baby daddy
It's crazy 😂
Hmm I like small ass bitch better as nickname tho so I am not gonna change it
why is that my nickname boy
Would ripley even feel it
LMAO
Pookie nickname
Gaban coated it with AdvConq
She feels that Conq
YO BRO WE HAVE BETTER THINGS TO TALK ABOUT


This is important Sak
Its called haki emission
😭
axes might help
Was about to say something insanely out of pocket but imma shut up
loki's dragon aura will vanish once his color turns out to be purple or someshit instead of black
purple is aura fym
Purple would be good
purple is aura for short men maybe
Purple would be lit to match his hair
As long as its a dark colour is good
Loki is like a country big
Stop talking
He should stay all black
Yeah
nigga who is you
Wait Lokis fruit is the dragon from the mural right
man scrap elbaf bro i wanna see my glorious goat
Make a poll YC do your job
I just remembered this
He might look too much like Imu if he's all black
or drop a remind list
a nga who fw purple
the purple fucker 🔥
Does Kaido dragon form have more aura or Loki
Purple does = win tbf
I think Kaido still got it ngl
But Loki should stay black
depends on the whack ass color oda will give loki's
Shanks: Kid, if I took you out to see, your father would hunt me down and kill me and then your mother would raise me from the dead just to kill me a second time. So the answer is an emphatic: NO WAY

YO
Kaido's dragon looks like a little newt compared to Loki
Bro just scaling off of the plot moving along
Even put a picture in there YC wen above and beyond
You aren’t ready for him
Purple is quite literally the best color
its oda so its gotta be the worst color possible

Dragon is stronger than both shanks and mihawk
Wrong^
True
I’m not taking any other opinions on this.
He isn't ready for the story
That colorspread is how people guessed Loki could have this fruit and why purple would be cool
I’ve decided I’m right.
Until I see Loki not just be a gigantic ass dragon, Kaido still my fav dragon
Dragon wishes
The rat and painter don’t compare to the goat
And the wish is granted
Hope 🙏🙏
Black or purple, its a W either way
i fw this western dragon
Dragon > Shaks and mikuagwk or whatever
Mikugawk
One of them does nothing but drink and party the other sits in his mansion all day while the goat is fighting to take down imu
Is that French

Fighting ?
YC mod applications are open
Close them
shit who actually applied
Do you know what that means
i forgot it was open
Dragon is the waiter
wonder if shakky will be involved in the final war
Applying in 2026 
If you fail to get promoted for the 3rd year in a row I will continue to make fun of you for it

She's gonna get the final blow on Sommers
Fail suggests I tried
Sommers dying this arc
nah nigga need her to beat his ass in a 1v1
Do you have to ask to get promoted?
sommers aint making it out of elbaf
wont mind if oda gives her coc
he getting saturn'd
what do you think 😭
Loki is just killing him
No idea tbh I never even thought of trying 
Bro really thinks the King of the World is gonna accept responsibility
That if you do good work (no life in this server) that it just happens
youre right
Sanji will kill him, after Imu takes his contract back. Imu will then laugh
Shit I'd be surprised if she didnt have it atp
im of the same thought
Sanji killing Sommers

we in for wanji's CoC awakening
Yessir
We yes we are all ready
YESSWE
When he sees Robin tied up hes gonna crash out and get a haki bloom
Cocji in chapter 1177
Actually if Imu takes his power back, Sanji won't need coc
Keep talking
He still gets it
Sanji needs CoC to hang now icl
It would just be Thorn DF vs Warrior of Science
Arisu already looking for the next bet
Oda hinting, as always 
Stop it
Yc
Does this chapter count as Lokis df getting revealed
!rmd list
technically no
Look at 3
bitch no get muted for 2 months please
The new meta for beating the enemies is making them seem so incompetent to Imu that their powers are stripped awa?
I'll bombard your dms with joe butt gifs
arisu how you have a whole lot of things in your plate irl then go on and apply for staff
like bitch you aint moderating shit
Look at the fucking date you dumb prick
Id say yes I think we will get the name next chapter anyway
oh
LMAOO
Oda has got a serious issue with silhouettes
my guess was elbaf finna be 100 chapters how many chapters in are we now
like whats the point in hiding it STILL
hes addicted like its crack
Imu might mention it, which would be cool since I guess he knows them all. Liked how he sees Loki and Luffy and he's like 'Interesting...
Plus I'm totally going to kill Sommers but...interesting'
Im so excited for Tony Stank D Hokages message
Don't fucking jinx it 😭😭
yo btw what yonko did they try to take down again at punk hazard i forgot like the plan of the team up with law
Oh alright
So it's 4-0
all 4 of them
4 bets won so far
wait fr?
Law wanted Kaido
Kaido
aight
Luffy just said all 4 for aura
!rmd list
ty ty for the info
People making fanart and colorings of the chapter is so funny
I recognize this artstyle
whats the remind command
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!remind
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ban this person
Thighbreaker innit
this the command
Oh yeah hope that happens
i think so
Yes
oh yeah thats thighbreaker
the design is so cool my only issue is the nostrils
That means no dragon df for Dragon
I'm happy Oda is making more full spreads
Wind logia 
I hope its black and the stomach purple or something
Same
we fw a wind logia
it's gonna be like the Gorosei
WIND LOGIA DRAGON 
Killy:
"I had nothing to do with this, this was all Sommers. I did my job my lord!"
bright
Built like a fucking bat bruh
Also hoping it's not some storm fruit either cause then it's just discount loki 
Derpy dragon
What in the fairy tale
Could it be storm logia so its Smoker Caesar Monet Enel and Nami/Zeus in one
OMG
We've had like 4 dragon dfs, it's still open
Nah, unfortunately Dragon is gonna have a myth dragonish zoan
LOL
bro
Dragon Piece Z
THATS FIRE ON EVERYONES SOUL
Please delete this
PIN THIS
Except mine
I knew this would be prodouced
LOOK AT GEAR 5 
It’s the most obvious logia thats not used.
Well we have eastern dragon Kaido and western dragon Loki I think we are fine now
along with earth
What about northern and Southern
African culture Dragon 
Who will be the earth bender
Good question erm
do dragons exist in african folklore?
Tokikake when he becomes Admiral Brown Pig
Sommers is genuinely sick😭 . He reacts to children dying the same way luffy reacts to meet or sanji reacts to women
I sadly dont know
Good thing he's dying later this arc
They are all sick. Rank them on who is more sick
I mean he kinda the goat tho like
Makes me laugh and shi
the world actually needs 3
So it's all good really
Sommers is the best Holy Knight
Reason no.1453 Kaido os dead
Sanji(unfortunately)/sommers then luffy
I think he has the most screen time too

so it checks out
Unoball
Kaido and Bm gonna show-up and we gonna get a Dance of Dragons vs Luffy and Loki, you heard it hear first
Self replying
They are dead Adam, move on
Killingham Kaido momo and loki
Tensei (Admiral Black Horse) with the iron/blood logia. Like either he controls metal and then fucks up your blood or he controls blood.

bring kidd back before bringing kaido and bm back
he deserves to be alive more than they do

No SB
https://x.com/mazaochizao/status/1988649827299913802?s=20 @steel stirrup @pine scaffold @wet heron
No one likes Kid that much
Bro is crying tears of joy, drooling and all that from seeing kids die
How about all 3 
Crazy
This chapter did a solid job of setting up the next generation of Yonko (Loki Luffy Kidd and Imu)
is there an "absolute sommers" meme yet
THIS IS SO GOOD
Sb think the entire internet is just Jjk subreddit, piratefolk and onepiece part of twitter
Kid sneak
Damn, grammar issue
Meek L
but at the same time lokis dragon form is so big i cant figure out how he actually looks in that dragon form lol besides his head and neck
rocks art always a hit fr
The big sword is right there
when kid comes back they will have to close all the airports because the internet traffic will disrupt the planes 😔
i miss rocks bro
Yeah Rocks looks like a demon, Roger + Garp look great as well
The one in wano?
No elbaf sword
Do you know something for Pink Rabbit tho, cant think of anything
icl its actually so disrespectful to kaido to give loki that fruit though 😭
Ngl I wish we went back to the flashback
what is wrong with oda bro
lokis probably big enough to swallow kaido in one bite
20 more chapters of Rocks
why is every female character a bimbo
jumping spider zoan
how broken would yall say this devil fruit is
i really cant think of better alternatives
besides like maybe 2 or 3
i just realized
prob would be a fruit that haki can negate
Im kinda angry Toei bastardized her design (or maybe it was Oda before them iirc
it was a great flashback
i wish it was longer so we could have seen more but i dont miss it
How does this drawing keep returning years after years
oda should have made god valley a mini arc
Glue
I think it needed another 10-20 more chaps
someone probably has a remind list every year to post it
i dont miss the flashback honestly
yeahh
Cook, and Kaido and Big Mom will be skeletons
not after that last chapter
Its called curves mate. Best decision oda made in his manga ngl
we do not want a sakura
seeing Rocks kill an admiral on screen would be insane
imagine we actually got to see it
Oh yeah, saw this, it was hilarious. Poor Luffy
Cant think of any either. Cloud logia?
Holy shit. The great Marin resurgence
In hindsight its kinda funny how Hinas fruit isnt just the iron fruit
We ain't seeing him backstabbing
BB and Rocks both excel in off screen Ws
Its a family secret
And then Chopper fights her and thinks shes cotton candy
Because pink clouds
I'd rather see all the Davey back games Rocks used to win everyone onto the crew
I actually want to see Loki fight and then compare him fairly to Kaido. Loki might be bigger, but Kaido seems to have more experience and much longer endurance. It would be interesting.
Lol i was thinking cotton candy df first xd
Chopper would betray luffy for her
@digital spear pls generate a chapter
Your former pfp becomes true

chopper
chopper
Lowkey if he wanted he could kill off the whole crew easily
You fraudulent
The whole crew is dead if Chopper ever gives in to his intrusive thoughts
Not cure their injuries and make them worse, poison them, give them the wrong blood group etc.
One pot of mushroom soup will also be enough
Assuming no one has sleep CoO like Whitebeard, the entire crew could kill the whole crew 
Sanji cant.
Jinbei can drown them
Yes I know

Do you know what I hate the most about Usopp it’s the fact that the movie version of him is further along with his observation haki than he is
https://x.com/i/status/2021987292479729728
@fossil nimbus @high wolf
Roblox mihawk
Tuff?
It is actually
I don't want to say yes
You will
When the day of reckoning comes 🔥🔥
damme damme
Cope
It’s not cope it’s true movie Usopp uses observation way more than series Usopp
Year of Usopp
Year of Pasta


are u guys a fan of loki's dragon form
The sunny gets destroyed for real this time
Unlike the last 2 times
Where we said it was gonna be destroyed
He's cool
i expected something better than kaido's form ngl
Like?
He's gonna end up bright orange don't worry
And he is
hell nah
Yeah Kaido’s is visually more popping
exactly
Silhouette piece never ends 
The day of reckoning is coming for sure

He managed to silhouette an island sized object
if Loki isnt a silhouette, his design is extremely lackluster
Its great
????
Buddy hit me with the quad marks
Its NOT just a big black dragon with his tongue out.
Woah 
I might be the only one seeing a dog 
Its simply a masterpiece of simple design
It might be unfair to compare this design to Loki
but I will anyway
cuz people keep comparing him to Kaido
constantly
This is better than kaido imo
A nice blend of goofy and intimidating
Even if it's just as a silhouette
The more I look at this double spread, the more I dont like it
I cant tell what's going on
the perspective is off
I still think it's a chimera
Im more concerned over what's going on at the bottom
Is that bird ok?
Hes phasing out of existence
Those are killing ham nightmare constructs
oda error
I guess?
He sliced him with his beard
But thats an Oda error
I think it could be an intentional thing
No It might be an error. You can see it's mirrored
It's not that uncommon to have that trailing image effect for illusions. It could be an error though
Chapter tmr
Kill and Murder Oda
For a mistake he didnt do

Love is in the air guys
oh so that’s what that smell is
Yeah idk what that entails bjt
Love is definitely in the air
Its also Big Moms birthday I believe
Idk if its on the 15th or 14th
But I vaguely remember her birthday as I tend to do with Big Mom things
Did this happen?
I compare him more to Maleficent, the superior dragon
This might be where Oda peaked for dragons, or even full zoans in general...
I dont think it can be beat
I hope it's a silhouette cause I don't like the dragon face looking like a cow
Finally someone else who thinks it looks like a cow
By far my favorite devil fruit
Western dragons are cool but he'll have to create an equally perfect version of it to match what he did with Kaido's fruit
Favorite DF is still Marco's for the zoan class, Law's for the paramecia class, and Karasu's and Ace's are tied for logia
Well..
I think it’s kinda looks dog faced myself
Maybe it should be expected

Marcos come really close for me too
My favorite logia is Kizaru
Favorite Paramecia is soul soul
The amount of people that think Loki is unbeatable simply because of how big he is, astounds me. This is One Piece for goodness sakes
When has size really mattered in terms of beating someone?
True it’s getting a little wild
Not to mention it’s prob not the optimal form for him to fight
That’ll be hybrid
Exactly what I can't understand, it's okay to think he is top tier but people are confirming this as he is stronger than Joy boy and imu 
Bounty scaling tells us King and Queen > Zoro 
I'm watching Syv's review right now, and he's like he can't see how anyone can beat Loki, Shanks, Imu, anyone. And I'm like....you know that being that big actually makes him a bigger target right? And since when has being "big" stopped people like Shanks, Luffy, or basically ANYONE in One Piece. Doflamingo was like "Oars Jr? Bet." Zoro "Pika? Bet" Garp "San Juan Wolf? Bet"
i thought her bounty was higher than croc
might have them flipped
Nah
Nope
at some point someone becomes too large
Dragon scales and all
And let's not forget about Koby and his fighting against an island man
not really
Yeah, shanks might be even more busted if he beat loki fair and square.
He's going to get scaled down even since Oda has to actually have him interact in scenes
I mean maybe some attacks would feel like mosquito bites
You might actually have to dish out a good amount of power to hurt him
In dragon form
that's not really a problem for anyone who would fight him
It could be
In the upcoming chapter I'm pretty sure he will change to hybrid, it's not feasible to draw interesting fight in that scale
at the end of the day he should be less durable than kaido
It depends, like the rooftop guys did pretty well in being able to hurt kaido, scales or no
cause kaido on top of being a dragon also had absurd haki
They did ok
Plus Loki is way bigger
And his durability is yet to be seen
I wouldn't be surprised. Honestly, I think there's more than one person who could have done it.
Still it’s not always about using a big attack on a big entity
i mean every shanks upscale is immediately blackbeard and mihawk upscale
I predict Loki will end all nightmare monsters with a single attack. Then something unexpected will happen
Small attacks can pack a punch
Glad to see you’ve found your sense
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I don't think bigger would make a difference, especially with how oda has his characters fight. They can use one tiny fist and knock out someone 10,000 times their size
You had me worried for several months
Ye but bc that fist packs a punch
my opinions never changed
I’m saying it has to
Pack a punch
But due to his size and potentially durability a mid tier attack may not do much
i mean size is also a downside
he's a massive target
like he's not dodging anything
For sure
Wouldn't Mihawk nor BB not be affected by anything Shanks accomplished after his fights with them? Like if Shanks got quadruply strong after his run in with BB or Mihawk? And neither of them have faced him since, how would that reflect on them?
But maybe his size makes it so that attacks don’t feel like much
Unless they’re really strong
Same
mihawk is eternally stronger than shanks for zoro's dream to not be fraudulent, and bb has yet to have his real fight with shanks
Loki can still get his head lobbed off
If he’s as big as an island
We’ve worked with that before
Shanks defeated Loki by using Haki to shoot him self through the air with his sword pointed out like a missile and Shanks shot straight through his gallbladder
Mihawk is objectively stronger than shanks
And idk bout BB
That would def have power
But that’s assuming Loki didn’t change forms
There is also a reason why they say "the bigger they are, the harder they fall", Loki feels to me to be an impulsive fighter. A brawler with not a lot of sense. I can see many opponents outmanuvering him
Shanks is a Yonko. Mihawk a fired Shichibukai. Therefore Shanks > Mihawk
Like that matters
You think Zoro's going to be stronger than Shanks by the end? Really?
I will always conclude mihawk and shanks as equals, cause we are never going to get the confirmation of who is stronger than the other
That would be a diff way to go about it yea
Mihawk is a better swordsman and shanks is a better haki user
Ye theyre basically relative
buggy was also fired. therefore buggy > buggy
There isn’t much of a distinction these days
We’ve seen high level haki fights now
That’s likely how Mihawk fights
Shanks and him are likely just relative in haki too
Like I could see Shanks trying to reason with Loki because of some plan he has or that Loki is going to get himself killed if he keeps going the way he was going, but Loki doesn't listen and then tries to get Shanks out of the way and doesn't realize that the aoe of his attack would take out a lot of collaterel. Shanks would definitely take him out to protect others and to protect Loki
Not bad tbh
He say my dragon pink
People often say Mihawk has superior swordsmanship than anyone but so far, he just awkwardly holds a huge sword with 2 hands and slashes in the air with it. How is that in any way good swordsmanship?
He looks like he's covered in bubble gum
Honestly, I think Mihawk and Shanks can't be equals.
There can only be one strongest, and that's mihawk.
Because It's literally his entire character, him having an equal just doesn't make sense to me.
And oda has already called him stronger than shanks multiple times in the series.
does anyone else think his eyes make him look domi reversed
I don’t think we can judge off how it’s drawn
We just take the statements as is
It's a confirmed fact that mihawk has better swordsmanship than shanks, iirc it is literally said in the manga
But yea he wields his sword kinda like a bat
Imu uses Loki to burn Elbaph to the ground and everyone has to escape to the Heaven realm and we finally get to see what's up there
pink? 😭
He has better swordsmanship than shanks.
this oda we talking we talking aboout
the manga can say shit for all I care. If there is nothing to back that up, it’s worth nothing
Zoro has certain techniques that are probably “graceful” but overall
hes a bastard
He’s a power type
We can't be resorting to these types of arguments when it comes to the agenda lol
Mihawk is the WSS
When was the last time they fought again? Was it around the time of Harald's death, because Shanks looked to be still growing about then
he bought the title
So, just ignore what oda says.......... Sure..............
forget zoro, sanji is going to be stronger than shanks by the end
We've got better arguments we can resort to
i mean its simple
He has only said that is swordsmanship is better than shanks. We never got confirmation who won in their duels plus we can now clearly see shanks gotten stronger after losing his arm and we know he didn't fight mihawk after losing his arm
mihawk is the wss
Oda has been proven on numerous ocasions that he is an unreliable source
if you object to this you are wrong
I don’t think Shanks’s strength can be judged off how he did against Harald bc Gaban basically did equally as bad
I mean he did have other people have the "strongest" title and ye they got beaten
It's not confirmed when they fought iirc
But, Mihawk got stronger too, became the WSS in reality.
and that means every single swordsman is weaker than him
The same is true of Roger and Garp vs Rocks
Hakiman
Yeah, I'm dumb for taking ODA AS A RELIABLE SOURCE
zoro is basically equal to sanji and zoro > mihawk > shanks
not sure what the issue is
But how would he know that if he doesn't actually fight Shanks
He’s just built different
Mihawk being called the WSS by the Omniscient narrator multiple times.
AND, Oda blatantly calls him stronger than Red-haired in his vivre card.
i support your cause but vivre cards aren't oda
Lol, it took me a second to figure out what I was looking at
Oda did supervise the early vivre cards
damn lol
This at the least is big enough to compete with Loki
When Sanji ends up above Roger, Imma gonna be “ told ya so”
I can't wait for that 
old gen overrated highkey
Recency bias
???
that form is mid diffing loki lol
iirc Vivre doesn't explicitly state mihawk is stronger than shanks, only something with swordmanship plus vivre card have been wrong before.
Anyways i don't argue with these topics, as i stated , my opinion never changes until we get the confirmation from oda in the manga
The same people that probably yapped about Kaido not being able to use haki to hurt regeneration users
They got owned
ion know bout dat but cook for the sake of agenda
loki mid diffs kaido
i will remind you all that aside from everything else kaido has every type of haki
also loki lost to shanks
Oda did supervise the early vivre cards iirc
And no, it actually calls him stronger than shanks.
But yeah, I respect your opinion nonetheless.
so there's no argument regarding kaido
Plus depending on Loki’s dura that shit is gonna burn
Theres an argument if loki didnt lose fair and square

kaido also lost to shanks
(no)
(yes)
Not possible
i mean its just objectively false kaido claims nobody before luffy challenged him as much
did people think shanks just gave kaido the wrong directions in marineford
no people think he stopped him by being with his entire crew
and kaido not taking the fight
crew issue
well yes
At most, they clashed
No but it’s ridiculous to think Shanks would come out anywhere near unscathed in a proper fight
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im sorry but youre being pushed away by shanks bum ass crew ur already cooked
Shanks upscale
They probably fought
isn't it more likely loki lost in a 1v1 though
have y'all seen the theories that it was Shamrock who stopped Kaido, lol
also you'd have to believe shanks beat kaido without scarring him
But I imagine it was like the clash with WB
if pre yonko shanks beat Loki in a 1v1….get Loki above BM bro
something bum ass zoro managed
Mayve
wifi haki doesnt scar
Im not sure
🥀
But i do have shanks > loki until i see otherwise
Kid didn't get cut 
i don't think pre/post yonko shanks matters as much here since he became yonko that same year they fouhgt
Wifi haki does 0 damage
i could see Shanks offering a great booze to Kaido, causing him to leave
either that or Shanks told something about Joyboy maybe
Wifi haki and shanks scenerio
yeah me too
like, Kaido wouldn't get to see Joyboy here but if he kept steady and stayed put Joyboy would eventually come to Kaido
its funny how loki brings kaido back into consideration again
it's just two arcs bro
I said this before but the fandom cant let go of him
Well Loki seems to be using bits from Kaido
the thing which is most funny is how people so quickly took Kaido off the boards
we've got like 2 more left in the entire story
Kaido name will be relevant even in the final war
smh
just goes to show the people who are reading, lol
Kaido is simply the power metric for the series and thats clear
i've seen kaidoscaling a lot more recently with people saying 2-3.5 kaidos 😂
that sounds so dumb
5 kaidos
When it comes to haki, shanks is the one to be compared and if it's strongest then it's kaido. Kaido's intro was that good and his strength lived up to the hype
not really


