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Shamrock will probably have a fruit of his own, as well
with killinghams fruit, does the person have to be dreaming about the item currently before killingham can manifest it, or can he just go through their dreams and pick anything from it?
Shamrock & Loki being Temu Blackbeard cause they got “ 2 devil fruits “ lol
Sommers paramecia is kinda mid compared to killingham and gunkos to me tho
it's fuzzy
Yeah the weird unique fruits of the Holy Knight have been very refreshing after most of the antagonists of Wano and Egghead were Zoans or Zoans with "natural disaster"-type powers
His application of it so far is interesting
I think they have to have dreamed about it recently at least for it to be made into a monster
Sommers also has a very versatile one though
like transparent thorns
i love it though cause it means even more that Teach is getting a 3rd to set himself apart
as well as a thorn dragon
true, its definitely becoming one of my favourites
alright
because all the nightmares have been based on the drawings the kids made recently or them hearing about demons while asleep
I'd prefer if he doesn't tbh. Because then it would mirror Shanks, just with their sword styles being different. Shamrock would rely more on DF based attacks and Shanks has haki
Its kinda something I’d expect of a thorns fruit tho, like its not particularly outstanding compared to kil’s and gunkos
Probably
I think it continually "updates" the spawning of the dream creatures, like we saw with demons being created, and some of the giant knights being on fire this chapter
i think that Shamrock will have Cerberus, Devil fruit and Haki
I do think Sommers probably has more abilities
He's maxxing out his build 😭
definitely
i won’t even be surprised if Oda says Gryphon is a DF sword
you'd expect transparent thorns?
Sidenote; i'm glad the early mistranslation of Somers' thorns being "powered by the amount of love of the target" seems to have been mostly forgotten
killinghams fruit is very OP, but for a fight it seems very situational based. Like if he was fighting lets say zoro, he won't really be able to spawn anything
he can probably pull things from his own dream as well
given he got the bow from nowhere
Doesn't he also have to put his opponents to sleep ? That's a drawback as well
I still see people saying Buggy couldn't go to Laugh Tale cause he got Usopp's island disease lmao
I actually hope he can
Killingham fruit feels like Doffy with Birdcage in a way … it’s tough and annoying to deal with but once you reach Killingham himself , just take him out and they all go away
Its not something i would consider esoteric, like I wasn’t really shocked as I was Gunko or Killingham’s
fair
All of them are having more abilities up their sleeves we gonna see them when they actually fight a close battle
it's a good fruit for a war, like belo's but less useful in a 1v1 scenario (from what we currently know about both fruits)
yeah
I don't really remember, but weren't the kids concious the whole time or?
They were initially sleep walking iirc
they were sleep walking at some point
He has to put them to sleep yeah
Killingham can also give people sleep paralysis apparently
Which is a major issue against competent fighters
that was post creation of the monsters, when imu sent out a conq blast, they were knocked out but kept walking due to gunkos fruit iirc
Lmao, just realised sommers get insta diffed by Blackbeard
He never sleeps
Wait i mean killingam mb
im pretty sure it was way before imu showed up
I think I might have to reread elbaf
He also slept when he created that salt
For their lunch
Oh yeah true
Inb4 the nightmares are weak to salt.
So that's definitely a drawback

i wouldn't be surprised if Killingham can enter people's dreams
Killingham also has sleep paralysis abilities and another thing people forget is he can make flame arrows
Now im not sure if its tied to the kirin
yeah this is the start
i think he conjured up the flame arrows and bow from his own mind
I wanted to see Gunko in an actual fight before Imu took over
She pretty much solod the SH
Alright thanks for the clarification
If he can pull stuff from his dreams that’s even crazier
Well Imu seems to be able to use the abilities of whoever they're possessing
in addition to their own powers
Killingham has such a broken DF
Has the most aura out of the three too 
Still Hilarious to me that Imuko pulled a gun from a book
fr
also as far as we know Killingham didn't have to physically interact with the kids to put them to sleep nor grab the nightmare creatures from their nightmares
He seemingly did it while away and standing still
it looked almost as if he himself fell asleep and did it through that
Would be pretty broken if he can automatically put you to sleep as well
Killingham should be their first priority
definitely
The dude is a walking army glitch the hell
no matter how many they defeat they'll just keep coming too
I'm kinda confused on which form is supposed to be Killingham's hybrid, because they both look like hybrid forms
Imu is smart for picking Killingham as a unit
i think that when Shamrock said they'd send one more, he was meaning to send Killingham to Elbaph
Sommers then came as Shamrock neeeded to be on Marijoa
when Killingham monsters & Domi Giants start dancing to the beat once Luffy goes G5
I think the Dragon form is not a hybrid
Seems like what we see above is Hybrid
And funny form is full
Elbaf starting to look like peak Psychosis
Well it is true lmao
LMFAO
meanwhile Kid is still at the bottom of Elbaph's ocean 😭
THE DANCING NEVER ENDS
The centaur form probably in general.
Im just noticing he awakened his DF 😭😭
Oda cooked so hard with his design
Since theres a lot of human animal overlap
the fact that he can fly too, lol
Yeah, one of a my favourites
hybrids have the scarf before awakening as well … Yamato , G4 Luffy .:. best to just wait for Oda to outright say it
didn’t Oda even call that form his hybrid
It seems killingham can cause people to go to sleep then
Im guessing Killingham has 3 forms
He might not be Nusjuro fast but id assume he is fast enough to run away from potential capturing
There's a handful of "centaur"-style hybrids like Jack and Black Maria
It matches the pattern
insane, as he wasn't even there with them
his initial appearance, I think only his top half was zoan
think Black Maria's specifically was stated to be due to drugs tho lmao
It's really only his head at first, his limbs seem to be pretty human in his first form
multiple hybrid forms are probably possible, as long as you're used to the fruit you have
If it's a zoan it's a weird looking zoan
Forced awakening by drugs sounds messy
Like full zoan
here Oda confirmed it’s his hybrid form but not his awakening sadly
Ahh
i'll just go with the idea that he has multiple hybrid forms
Meaning he has a stronger form than the ones we have seen so far?
yeah if he awakened his DF , his awakened form should be his strongest form
He would end up looking like the Gorosei
we saw with Kaido that his strongest attack was in his full zoan form but not his hybrid form cause he didn’t have a awakened form
Either Killingham has 3 forms or his first appearance is his full form
it would be strange if that was his full form, lol
i'd expect something more fully horse like
i think it’s his first appearance is his full zoan , his hybrid is the one we see now and we haven’t seen his base form
Also the air helmet is noticeable
His design mirrors biblical angels that herald the apocalypse with that horn. Never noticed that
i'd expect this type of creature for his full transformation, these proportions too
If Killingham’s weakness gag is that damn bubble helmet…
Why does he have human limbs in his full zoan
I mean look its the surface world air I get it
Maji do you actually believe killingham is stronger than loki
I wouldn’t want to breathe the same air as pirates either
But the job has to get done
it could just be what Oda version of the mythical being Qilin looks like
the Gjallarhorn?
how many more chapters we got with Jarul still being alive lol
I said this earlier lmao
I mean, it COULD be like Lucci.
Lucci has 3 forms (4 now cuz awakening)
He has 3 forms
The centaur is hybrid coded to a tee.
i'm excited to see him to be honest, his speech made me hype
Lucci’s slim form is a technique
Yeah that too
Killingham could be using a technique
So can we assume the cloud thing is not always awakening?
Its probably an awakening for normal zoan but mythical zoans can have it without awakening in some cases
facts !! that speech sadly gave me death flags though .. it got me hyped though
i think his death will complete him
I forgot about heimdall, it makes perfect sense
yeah but we knew that already .. G4 Luffy has the cloud , Yamato also has the cloud as a child when she first got the fruit
Okay but like why would his hybrid have the body of a horse and not his full zoan
Killinghams fruit is so OP
I mentioned these cases but some still argue its awakening
slumbertized, lol
Because oda is a funny man that sometimes isn't consistent with his work
such a funny word
It would be crazy if killingham is actually a fishman, and he could only be expected by them if he turned into an actual dragon
Or you can be very nerdy and claim his centaur and his appearance are both hybrids
i see
i definitely don't think he is a fishman
Jinbei vs killingham
I always thought Killingham and Maffey would be the Power Pair
The fishman dies
Since they both have sharp teeth
Yeah like can’t be Crocodile cause of this scene prior to rain showing up and it can’t be Smoker cause he deadass debunked this, so only logical it’s Vivi herself who unintentionally caused it.
unless they think Yamato awakened her DF as a child when she first got it 😂
Literally love how this artist draws Vivi
Awakening a DF as a child is a crazy feat ngl
yeah as of now Kaku got the best awakening feat
If Yamato was awakened Oda would have made it more clear
Maffey unfortunately is probably an old lady
man i always forget Alabasta isn't the name of the island itself lol
awakened his DF after just 2 years is insanely fast
That is true, no deep sea covenant for her
it's so funny that Kaku's love of giraffes is what made him awaken to me
CHAT THIS IS HOMING
Especially after that performance from Primebeard holy
They said she can since she wanted to protect wano even when she is a child
thats doflamingos dad
Sliced in half from a man with no scars on his back
maji the GOAT of the Killingham agenda 🔥🔥
Record stays clean Whitebeard
Hes on Vira causing havoc btw
i don't think so
Hes the main antagonist of Vira
lmao if that was the case we would’ve saw G5/Nika with Sabo & Ace & Dadan since Luffy always wanted to be free 😂
please change your mind please please please
hmm
Cute
thats not me i will get revenge for this
Nahh that skull dude looks like some post apocalyptic necromancy
so homing

Yes
that skull dude might be Rimoshifu for all we know
+1
WHO IS THAT
That guy might be Shiki for all we know
Rimoshifu is the same family as Killingham
oh okay
Bro switched sides during God valley
i want it to be homing cause that'd be a cool and unexpected twist
Hes running for the Circle K 5 dollar menu deal
The skull helmet was just a prop
i love cool and unexpected twists
unless/until Teach awakens the yami & gura .. Kaku will continue to have the fastest awakening feat .. that trophy goes to a giraffe lol
Yeah Arabasta is more of country, just like how Wano country is multiple archipelagos
not to be like that, but i don't think Homing could be a God Knight
i love cool and unexpected twists
like i see Homing's personality as very anti God's Knight
i've written a lot on the idea i'll try to find and forward it
Blackbeard will most likely be awakened for sure
We don't know. For all we know, Gunko was some orphan he adopted or his crewmates daughter
I don’t think BB is awakened just yet. Particularly because we know how he flexes his powers when he has something new
sabo will get the fastest awakening feat EOS
unless he flexed it offsceeen ? lol realistically though the first fruit to be awakened would be the yami and everytime he start use the yami Oda goes offscreen lol
TLDR homing is an inversion of a character from classical literature and his "insanity" was giving up his knighthood instead of becoming a knight
wait its important that he's giving up his knighthood with good but foolish intent
Fact: Next time we see Lucci, he will be a Holy Knight
yeah I expect Sabo to awaken
I think BB awakening the yami yami will be an on screen thing, especially since I think it reflects his character so well.
hype
i never considered lucci (evil)
I think BB will get an onscreen awakening like luffy
🥹 new lucci form
Perfectly showing two sides of the same coin
oda is finally giving the people what they truly want
he only loses because he has to
yeah your right , both would probably be revealed on screen .. a gura gura awakening would be hard for anyone to miss since it would probably affect the entire world regardless what island your on lol
My bad I thought this was another "Mosa is Mjosgard" theory
Lucci will stay CP0 because Robin is his EoS opponent and sadly she will not have ACoC
either WB did awaken the gura gura but never used it or due to the type of person he was he would’ve never been able to awaken the gura gura .. too kindhearted
Fact check: true ✅
Confirmed by real WG patriots
Or bootlickers
It doesn’t make sense to me if WB awakened it yeah
Gura Gura is an inherently destructive fruit
Its built in to destroy
And its a threat to all allies
You’d have to be kinda selfish
You could apply this logic to every story in fiction, why do people use it 😭😭
Mailbox what if I dm you picture of cups that are too close to the edge of a table
plus that would explain why as soon as Teach got the fruit he was able to use all the moves that WB was cause they were all just the basic gura gura moves since he never awakened it
Blackbeard is of course a destructive enough person he probably can and will awaken it
If BM isn’t an awakened user i swear thats a scam
i mean .. Big Mom was the worlds strongest woman lol
He did also spend years on Whitebeard's ship so he probably observed how Whitebeard used the fruit
BM absolutely should be awakened
no, Imu is
Imu possessing Lucci first chance they get
imu is a it
What a useful cat he is
Imu is beyond the concept of gender
I mean he could already destroy the world. What could awakening even be ? Like destroy other planets from afar?
Uhhh lemme think
i think the destroy the world line is based off the awakening
Unconscious destruction.
You'd need some medium for the waves to travel
So no
It'll simply be every movement causing quakes.
Lucci 3rd fight as a Holy Knight just to milk it
Not just concentrated ones.
I think it will just be “stronger quakes” ngl
Like earthquakes have a magnitude scale
Gura awakening to me would be like Blackbeard grabbing an opponent and making quakes on the inside of them, which would just tear them up from the inside
Kinda like shock wille
The gura gura probably increases the magnitude
Except even stronger
Tbf WB was literally bending air
Would be WILD
Lucci as CP9- Loses to Luffy
Lucci as CP0 - loses to Zoro
Lucci as Holy Knight - loses to Sanji ?!
😂 he just keeps going further down the straw hat roster
So there's no saying what his awakening would be
Even worse, loses to Brook
Thats why i say it applying to tje environment would be odd
I still don't understand what he was doing with air
It basically already does that
YOHOHO
Loki, white beard and kaido walk into a bar
lol yeah now that you mention it ..: I don’t see how grabbing air is tied to shockwaves/earthquakes 😂
I was about to say we haven’t seen BB do that move yet but forget he literally did seconds after getting the fruit
Like it'd make sense if he punched the water or the ground but instead he's grabbing onto Nothing 😭
Sending shockwaves/tears through the air?
The gura gura also cracks the air itself
That too
As much as I rag on the anime adding random effects.....I do have a huge soft spot for Whitebeard just straight up WARPING Akainu in the anime
just looks sick
Awakened Gura will cause flooding. Blackbeard holds the same power as Imu
yeah and Teachs was way more destructive cause it almost destroyed Sabaody with
tsunamis .. lol WB was trying to keep people safe
I think the cloud is also for deity fruits
Animation is insane here
The way this island looks…
Toei is so extra with the fights
He’s shaking the heavens
Not complaining though
I mean, it does do that. I guess maybe what WB grabs is being sent through the air that results in splitting the ocean, idk
What do you mean
I thought of it too
He’s forming the pressure into quakes

bro almost destroyed Sabaody with a attack at marineford .. i understand why the world wanted that fruit gone 😂
That could be another parallel too lowkey
Shanks watched roger do divine departure
Blackbeard watched whitebeard as he used the quake fruit
Everyone was literally fearing what would happen to the world once BB got it 😭
The terror of the gura gura is wild
That stance…no, it cant be”
Imagine being a regular marine on marineford, bro I'd quit immediately and start my fishing business
Wb was a pacifist
Them boys was SHOOK
imagine watching that shit at your house and you realize the attack you just saw on tv is about to fuck you up as well 😂
Any major official translation changes?
This would give me hope
Thats me losing hell nah
as soon as this happened .. i’m going AWOL …. better catch me while you can Akainu
This ep was so PEAK
Imagine living in the OP world and just reading the newspaper every day
Me watching Kizaru and Kuzan aura farm at 99% HP instead of doing anything
i understand why Koby was crying 😂 I would’ve been too
"huh, zombies invade Fullalead, thats interesting"
Wdym the world is gonna sink
It literally is gonna irl
it is called Weiner Island .. I meant Winner Island
Did people forget about global warming being real
“Demons and giants starting a war across the whole world…?”
Fr
Vegapunk is talking about an apocalypse casually
Enjoy the next 3 decades before the glaciers melt
Im moving to the moon
With enel
Actually nvm, i have a feeling the moon is coming to the planet once Enel builds a ship
Its not even worth it
VP really said “ i’ll tell the rest of the world about them dying after I die “ 😂
Kizaru is just too lazy to do anything
Kuzan is a bum
Honestly, Skypiea seems like the safest place rn
And i guess holy land but not going there for obvious reasons
Yeah its got no marines no wg no pirates
true , i wonder since VP speech how many pirates have tried going there
If I was Teech knowing Sky Island exist, I would Gura the air just to keep the rent there low.
Akainu do not send Greenbull to Elbaph
Thats wild
everybody gonna be on equal grounds soon after VP speech .. either everybody in the world on the ground fighting (including CDs) or everybody on the red line fighting (including civilians )
Where were the holy knights when the revs attack the holy land
lmao ODAAAA
Teech hiding as a coward in weiner island is pretty poetic ngl
Almost divine subtle storytelling
the Heart pirates lost everything at Weiner island
Weiner Hut Jr
U know ur design is ass when a censorship version is miles better than the original
Quoting NikaBoy (@nikaboy___)
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#ONEPIECE1172
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︀︀WHO MADE THIS BRO 😭
Kid mightve lost everything, but at least he didn't do that in weiner island
Be*
Basically yea
LMFAOOO
LOST AT DICK ISLAND
No fucking way lmao
Law losing in weiner island is a lot more humiliating than losing to Shanks off the shores of Eblaf
our first D clan vs D clan fight since Teach vs Ace and this is what Oda does 😂the symbolism
Brothers through combat
Weiner island
D vs D
I mean, it makes sense
Someone confront oda in an SBS about this
Oda is so childish
That's why he is the goat
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Davys D vs Trafalgars D on Weiner Island
Nami vs cat devon at vaghena island
they still exist ? lol
i like him too but didn’t know his stan’s were still around lol
They're hibernating
i used to always see kid stan’s in here
I never thought about how this is makeup. I assume he just looked like that
But I'll never stop liking Kid.
Its like a measuring contest but you illegally castrate the other guy
Hes a diva Indigex of course hes powdering up in makeup all the time
Shanks ain’t no killer .. he ain’t got it in him
Thats a bar…
yeah............
extremely cursed image
Woah
I almost forgoy kidd
Ideas eh? Guess its more than what youve been thinking of Jinbe
Damned punk + Acoc
Also Im surprised Robin got herself to stand
Its so peak
Zoro thought of something faster than Jinbei did.
Giants of Elbaph when they realize they killed the guy who co-defeated Big Mom, their species' most hated nemesis, for the crime of pointing a railgun at a fleet in front of their island
Didnt even get notified of the situation as quickly
Kid & Law will both return much stronger, some fans will complain about Oda giving them that much of a power boost offscreen & their agendas will be back in here again lol it’s like clockwork when it comes to Oda
I’d be devastated
Im sorry Gex. Jinbei still couldn't think faster.
Preach it brother
Is Jinbei a fraud thinker?
Oh Jarul is lying in a way that protects both Harald and Loki rep
Cant fuking wait for Kidd comeback 
That’s what he gets for yelling at Nami
Its kind of damning for the Haraldbros that every character is covering up his story
😭
it’s inevitable .. we had a whole ass prophecy about those mfs on the rooftop leading the new era …. they aren’t done
Kid uses his powers on the colossal sword
Captain John really could never move like Kidd when it came to the Magnet fruit ngl
True!
Captain John wasnt like that
don’t worry jinbe’s plan will be so much more thought-out
John is whack
Perhaps the old generation wasnt all that...
The Egghead boxes will come in handy.
He barely can awakened!
we done with the 90s
That box he had is ancient anti-dream technology
athletes today are just physically better 😂 that’s how Oda is moving with the pirates
It’s Iva and Luffy @spice cairn @tranquil blade @hot cairn @digital spear @ashen perch
How cute
Jinbei will have a 5 page flashback where Lilith explains that VP wanted to ruined people dreams with this box
Wait it is the strawhat
And Jinbei remembers and will spit out of his mouth
Vivi 
Yeah this is a much more reasonable take
Its clear Bon Clay fondly remembers the raid
Those two are his heroes.
Bon Clay Deep Lore swans vs Kuzan Deep Lore Glasses
I pray for him to come back every chapter unironically.
Its such a nice surprise to see Oda draw an entire page for him
That was a very nice treat.
I hope went he escapes, he founds the BFF pirates with Barto if he stumbles on him.
Would also be kind of interesting given their fruits were a big thing during Wano's flashback
truee...
And how their fruits are constantly intertwined
They’re young talent they aint dead
Perhaps both fruits were manifested from lovers

Which will led to Barto and Bon Clay meeting and forming an alliance
wonder what creature this is
Yoooo
YOOOOO
A draugr but with a helmet on
really?
In Norse myth, they refuse to go with the Valkyrie’s when they die
i know what a draugr is, but why would one be without any armor and one with armor
Dreams be like that
Bonney will be able to save the kids
how do i get the embeds role?
Talk in this server to get lv 10
i see
Basically, just interact with the server.
Join an agenda
how do i do that?
You don't
Shu shu
Agenda fuel us

You are already in an agenda
hope this will be elaborated on somewhat soon
Did you 1 star 14?
would also further solidify the Oars + Wano connection
Oh yeah I was about to ask you to watch me ace that base
I'm gonna rock the shit out of it
I did 1 star with my mini account
I don't think we will be getting this before void century
Your mini account is what 7 ?
Or 6
6
Cute pfp cam 
I love 1997-2001 Pokémon official art!!!!!!!!!

Year of the Ken Sugimori coloring the OP manga
I love kawaii chopper
Can't believe Robin died eos
Was there a rule change, why did rules light up
LMFAO
its all coc now
clash of clans
And if my heart doesn't burn to protect others, I don't want it.
Bruh wtf
I hate this feature
Literally I had BBwised people being serious on accident and I've felt embarrased
That deck has some high walls
!rmd 1y has usopp done anything yet?
Cool
Goated catch
And theres only 1
Like literally just one joy boy card
And you had to buy corn flakes to get it in your box of cereal.
That is the catch
My default is 🥀 this and I don't know how to change it
@dense rapids
Do yall think joy boy smacked his ass like Luffy
Ok I do know how to change it
On phone, tap-hold on a message
at least once
Joy Boy's drums were from his cheeks
Walk up to Overtaken but the baseline is joy boy smacking his ass
I changed it to gigglehearts
Gigglehearts
Both world’s strongest men in one piece started the wars
Summit War
Final War
We about to get a flashback of Jarul being the one with Emet 😂
That doesnt line up
It does. Jarul is 400+ years old
Emeth even tho he's from the void century, he did activate 200 years ago
how did emet wake up, or was he already awake and just fell asleep after the attack on holy land
what do yall think
Either he was already awake or he heard the drums of liberation
Or he was sent 600 years into the future
“Joy boy where did you go. You were right there. So sad, so very sad”
👀
either he was talking about the drums of liberation from luffy or joyboy himself
probably the first but won’t rule out the 2nd option
Damn
Jarul tried to slime the WG 200 years ago
Post the panel where Jarul talks about Elbaf once having a great enemy, alluding to it being the WG
Jarul is the guy
im sad brain damage jarul didn’t end up real
i guess his helmet really did just tank it
He can't recreate the magum ops that was brain damaged Linlin
He can recreated Backstab piece 50+ times but the Anemsia stuff is saved for big plot characters
I can't wait for Killingham to turn into an actual horse
So he can do this
should’ve given him horse ears in his hybrid
And Sommers goes "WOW!, my my Killingham I didn't know you were horsing around! In the case.." and then Sommers just pulls out a comedically large spiked up Base Ball Bat.
Then be monologs about how love hurts like baseball because hitting the homerun requires a lot of sacrifices or some stupid NBL metaphoring
Oda tends to be fucked uo quite often
Im a perfect world Killingham would simply be a horse that looks so stupid but silly enough.
We could've had Mooey 2 but actually evil
Oda if truly a good Mangaka, he could've had a Tapnir zoan
And not whatever a quillinham is, which stupidly sounds like ham enough to the point where I can't take him seriously.
He definitely knows more than the other giants about it, I'm sure he's known the WG is the enemy
so let me get this straight jarul knows that loki is innocent so where's this plotline of him getting a sword stuck in his head going
the galleila giants sent a letter saying we have been captured😂😂😂
i forgot that detail
No where 
now it got me thinking why would it be the previous ragnir user who did this
It was ragnir itself 
The messenger squirrel
@dense rapids @digital spear @ashen perch @stone tulip @hot cairn @hallow herald
Numbers 14:11
The speech wasnt even that crazy man relax 😭
He LOVES huh.
man cant they make pills smaller such a pain smh
Only like 2 giants have conq
rush that shit down with water
He drinks the blood of innocent people
I would've loved Baku Killingham
Qilin dont have dream powers in any myth afaik but I still love Oda's design for him
Would've been great to have a Tapnir Killingham
They been on some chill shit
Usopp vs Killingham is bottom 5 theories now
Its Usopp and Bonney vs Killingham
Bonney will probably be a massive counter against the nightmares.
i can’t deny it seems like the type of gimmick fight usopp would be fit for
seemingly invincible enemy that plays on some non physical thing
It was
the giants are the strongest race
Usopp definitely might be able to go toe to toe in a way I can believe
That's my reaction as well
If he gets serious
But I think he'll get help in some form
And not in a way that's stupid imo.
i don’t want 1v1s so i’m all for that
Not impressed. He should've loved it more and broke out of the arrows
He doesn't love elbaf enough

Maybe Usopp has so many nightmares it overloads Killingham's fruit
Idt Ussop in a thousand years can genuinely get into a 1v1 position against something like Killingham
wouldnt it be funny if Killingham's powers ends up being a negative towards him because the nightmares he would create from Usopp would frighten him to oblivion as well 
But if it does happen itll be in a unconventional way
he shouldn’t unless there’s some giant weakness

Perhaps like someone mentioned, Ussop can overload Killingham's gimmick in some way
regardless usopp can’t beat killingham anyway since he can’t do anything against regen
Since he is a cowardly guy, he probably has a lot of stupid irrational fears
so he’ll need at least some help
Bonney is probably the best partner imo
well she doesn’t have acoc either lol
Its fanfic fumes but Bonney is another dreamy character.
What if the weakness is that if Killingham feels fear, his fears start to get manifested as monsters as well but attack him specifically
A fight of dreamers would be interesting
Distorted future: show me a future where I don't have nightmares
Definitely will be a thing
Nightmares might work in a way where they target the vulnerable in that regard.
Or Ussop's nightmares manifest and aid him in some way
I had a somewhat similar idea to this but based on his lies
He lies about having nightmares and Killingham actually takes it seriously and manifests them but it backfires?
I can see that.
yeah
I don't know, in any case, regardless of what Oda writes, a fight between them would be fun
But I think they'll be some rooted fears he has but he'd be able to overcome them though if he were to fight Killingham though tbf.
Idt Ussop needs to "kill" him
It wouldn't kill him but it might put him in a position where he has to deactivate his ability
Yeah prolly the only HK getting turned is Gunko
I still hope its not a 1v1 though
and the others are fleeing after being defeated in some sense
Zoro and Usopp 
I wonder if knocking them out would make them plop back to where they came Ala Elders.
Might be the case?
yeah I think it's likely
Yeah idt theyll die.
Just simply port back to where they're stationed in a knockout
But Sommers I can see dying for some reason.
When Imu loses control over Gunko, it'd probably weaken them, and then Imu will pull the others back
before Imu loses any more HK
cuz losing HK weakens them
I just want a Sanj and Sommers fight
brook is a holy knight and he will betray
The love stuff is so ham fisted in
Sanji finds out Sommers hurt Robin and goes berserk
@grand flower Ok so
I'll decide what lineups I want after the next chapter
I want to see what pace we are proceeding with
What if Zoro's plan is to egg on the giants to make them go against eachother over who is stronger.

You right bae
He bouta ask Dorry and brogy who won
Egg
Zoro’s plan is slashing holy knights with his swords until they say I give up
Hes probably going to gloat over who is "stronger"
And their greedy part of themselves would argue over it. Making them infight to stall time
Perfect toss into the rivalry idea between them and how that was used to solidify Zoro and Sanji's relationship
Wait, I think Zoro’s plan is to call Mr. 3
Planting my foot down
This aint his plan
Probably isn't, no.
But I think its cool.
Itll probably be something a lot more simple and on brand for Zoro.
And not whatever fumes im on in regards to the relationships the giant duo have and homage-piece.
have to wonder what'll become of Gunko if she ends up falling here and is freed from Imu and GK control while surviving in the end with no sudden death moment like with Saturn
she can't really stay in Elbaph and if she goes out in the world on her own, Imu will want her back :d
I think shes dying.
it would make the most sense for her to go with the SHs if shes alive but i know oda wont let that happen (for an extended period of time)
I know that sounds pretty stupid but, Imu using her body must take a big toll on her
she doesnt really have much of a place in the world other than going out on her own after that
Im not advocating for her death here and there but I think that might be the case
tbf, there could be an argument that she might want to stick with Brook considering their connection which seems to run deep ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I suppose thats fair.
I think she dies
Yeah like I said all the abuse from Imu's possession plus what might happen to her body might be too much
at this point does oda have it in him to kill off a semi major character like gunko
Everyone who manages to escape from Imu’s influence ends up dead
Its one of those things that ill be genuinely shocked if she survives all of this and manages to break free
😔
That is the devil's contract
On brand for Imu
honestly, I actually think Gunko will survive this somehow. There's clearly alot of flaws in those contracts, and another might end up being exploited like what happened with Harald.
after both kuma and vegapunk surviving i really cant place any faith in oda killing off major good-aligned characters (in the present)
I mean, does T-Bone count
Kuma is a very odd situational thing though.
hes not a major character so no
alas
Vegapunk yeah I can't argue
but he served his role in dying very well
shows that cross guild is not in fact good for adovcating the hunting of marines
T-Bone fuilied his part in the plot.
In that the leverage against the Marines is so bad that even good ones like him aren't safe
But he probably let himself die for the old man's sake
That is his character
actually wait, do we count Doji and Izou as major "good" aligned characters since they ended up perishing in the raid and were clearly major allies in Wano.
Yes
Izo is definitely good align.
i dont think we even saw doji die, we just learned it happened lmao
I mean, we saw him get blown up
the problem was that no one could tell if he was actually deceased or not until it was confirmed.
same with Izo where he got finger-pistol'd but no one thought he actually died until it was confirmed.
Well we saw him get blown up
Oda just ruined the threat level of bombs is all
oh neat
izo i would count as a major death yeah
Tbf this felt very finale-esque
chapter in 4 days🐶
somewhat, but you have to also understand that it was somewhat vague since there were other moments where it looked clear but not really, and this happened to be another one of these moments.
i think it's meant to be Harald
yeah thats supposed to be Harald I think, there's horns there
gunko will survive but be old
she doesn't have nearly as many years as saturn did
she'll only be like 65
so old
old people in one piece are built different
if thats so old, then what the fuck is Brook and Kureha
and mind you, Brook may be 90 but his body is still that of his late 30s since that was when he died the first time lulz
unless oda dislikes you
i don't think she'll survive
she'll be old
wait this is an interesting idea actually
I can see that as the alternative to her dying
Oh naw we saw him die , explosion , hit the ground , panel of him on the ground lifeless
Sorry it wasn’t a close up of his dead eyes for you but that’s what we got to confirm it
poor doji
I kept thinking he was gonna get up 😔
that didnt stop vegapunk
Wano deaths were a bit weird
some of the scabbards had to go
The people I expected to get up and survive ended up actually dying, and then other characters that I didn't even realize were killed ended up dying too like Izo
well yea not kinemon apparently
oda spun a wheel and killed the two people it landed on post-raid
i thought Kinemon would die
he's too cool
Nah oda doesn't like to let people go
oda doesnt have the balls for that
he loves baiting us with emotional conclusions
we need kinemon alive to return in the final war, declaring himself a member of the SHs alongside momo
every1 freaks out that the samurai are here declaring themselves as SHs
To me it was just pure consistency with people in oda’s explosions , Pell was holding the bomb and then let go of it , perospero was held close against it but used armor candy defense to mitigate the damage , ashura was hugged with the bomb never letting go and stabbed all around his body on the way down
People who took enough damage to die and are expected to die survived and even walked like nothing happened few mins after the war. Kinemon and kiku
!falcon
Kinemon built differently
People not realizing the pell dropped the bomb and had the time to probably get out of the radius is something that is reasonably plausible but Oda's framing absolutely did not help.
This is unfortunately an Oda inflicted dummy moment
it was nice of kaido to slice the part of kinemon that had been sliced once before
maybe hes not so bad after all
Yeah agreed tho lol
It could’ve definitely been depicted as such
He just wanted the bait
Oda just didnt have it in him
And I respect that.
At least to some degree of mental gymnastics, it made sense
i just remembered that kuma is technically in elbaf
Pagaya is probably a lot worse imo.
But I dont see people mention that often as pell.
Kaido in the lava about to die: “vertically!!! It’s vertically next time!!”
But not that im complaining since Pagaya is a fucking GOAT
unfortunately i dont think anyone remembers pagaya
Because pell is the first
Well I can chalk it up to people just glossing over Skypeia.
Oda loved death baiting so much pre ts
pell is more relevant characters
Maybe more than post
Which considering its an unironic meme, that is likely the case for a lot of people.
he just baited every single vegapunk in egghead
that was like the most baits per arc
no one does
😭
goda
Oda going "ERM ACKSUALLY KUMA ISNT DEAD HES METAPHORICALLY INSIDE THE HUSK" is probably the best troll in Egghead in terms of deaths.
Ok he had to catch up to his pre ts score
Oda: i will kill vegapunk in egghead
Also oda: let me create multiple versions of vegapunk so his death will have no meaning
And he outdid it with the Vegapunks like soon after.
i can genuinely forgive the satellites surviving as long as stella didnt
please someone destroy the clone box
so people believe that Usopp will beat Killingham
TypicalJoe is like 80% spitballing theories.
Did anyone even feel a little bit of sorry for vegapunk death? I felt none, not a single drop
barely
I felt the Atlus sacrifice
Nah we will get young vegapunk
If people were gonna complain about kuma tho they should’ve started when he started moving on his own to rescue Bonney
i did a little but i was too much in my doomposting phase then
Be consistent if you do it
i didn't like the satellites in general though
That arc had a lot of critics that were complaining about the stupidest thing possible.
sabaku hates robots
So im not really surprised.
Real
well they all felt a bit, i don't know
meh?
Uneducated
he don't got internet
He probably never went to new world
man im still annoyed about how tone deaf the seraphim creation is
i have a theory that the will of D is for destruction 👿 setting the stage for gear 6
vegapunk felt bad about creating war machines from kuma then did the EXACT same thing but arguably worse
the seraphim in general feel a bit underwhelming
well they are just character repeats
and not a single thing in the story acknowledged that him making the seraphim might be bad
the solution to the seraphim were basically just trapping them in bubbles
They were captured offscreen 
yeah sure just make living nuclear weapons and give them to the world government for free use im sure itll go fine
But not everyone will have bubbles
the solution to Loki was just trapping him in sea stone
i recognize ur name were u ever a helper or mod
you're right, since they conveniently destroyed all of the bubble guns
No
But see its okay because it was very convenient that he gave Bonney complete control over all the Pacifista's (And probably even Seraphin theorically) conveniently behind Saturn's back!

ah
cyg is a hidden mod
i mean, yeah
Exposed
It's over for you cyg
new helpers
Meek, SB, Rich
Even if they are not destroyed, the bubbles are limited to vegapunk and his sattilites and maybe wg. Pirates will not have it as seraphims are created to capture pirates.
The reason bubbles may have existed is to control seraphims if they went rougue while developing them. There might be some trials and some may have gone rougue
either cygneto or cygoneto or smth
the bubbles were also sea stone 
i know that it's not everyone who has them, i just wanted to sound a bit cynical
i remember the mark of the hammer
It's him
or wrench
SO I WASNT TWEAKING
Socrates missed it, if only he didn't get banned
yes, which makes me question even more why sea stone tools have been so rare
“the mark of the hammer”
is he cooking

Smoker had the sea stone baton, at least
You are thinking of someone else i think
what hapepened to him 😭
because Oda's a hack
Whats the current scaling
Haki sisters....
nahhh idts
Shows how overwhelming they are physically
Fair enough, i also personal felt seraphim are lame. They just like tanks.
do you know how much I would have enjoyed seeing something other than haki being regen weakness?
even sea stone
or Elbaf's sun stones
i guess so, yeah
Never been a staff so I don't know what to tell you
@prisma yacht how dare you nerd react me 
Or Wano's moon stones?
i think the main thing i dislike about them, is that they're other characters but with lunarian genes
Indeed Cygento has never been staff
though i get that's the whole idea behind them
meek is a periodical high tier
Does this server has nerd react?
this woman above me
fish react her
see you are literally doing the erm akscually
i feel like it would've been cooler if maybe the seraphim were normal people, who have been made into these lunarian robots
Thats just how i type...
ima become staff to push kizaru agenda and purge the rest
they're other characters but with lunarian genes
I didn't understand this
Denied
Thanks for confirming
nooooooooo
bluko what if this came true
they've got the appearance of characters we know and love, but with lunarian genes added onto it
Dolfius is promoted via draft
Congrats
thats not what i meant
i’m becoming a seraphim
They will be more interesting if those traits that are dormant comes out
i hope mihawk adopts s-hawk
that's probably true, though i'll probably always prefer to see the original character instead of the seraphim
I cannot comment on the situation
though i imagine it’ll be kinda weird as he grows up
Now, remember how you used to look as a kid. Because seraphims are kid versions
like if i was to choose between seeing S-Gecko or Moria, i'd always say Moria
Pack it up, we are moving you in to the Mod sharehouse
i hope he shows up on a volume cover
gneuinelty FUCK the covers i thought bon clay was gonna come back from the leaks :(((
So pretty
you didnt even bald him correctly he still has hair

receding hairline
you should say fuck the leakers, not the covers
balding luffy
Obviously, but imagine if oda created seraphims based on dead characters instead of warlords 
He would have received so much hate
u got baited by redon
Dragon moment
bluko clearly isn’t aware of the balding fanbase
every week he has a guaranteed cover hint
Cuteee
yeah fuck SERGIO
Gunko is balding
yeah, i think the best would've been if the seraphim were civillians experimented on, or even like no-named pirates who have been caught in order to be transformed into these monsters
Imu restored her luscious locks
I thought Loki was gonna show shapeshifter powers from it because Norse mythos
I applied for admin, how is it going?
Using the blood of orphans...
imagine if lokis final form is this tree like structure would kinda make sense considering ragnir is a squirrel







