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He does have aura
its meatheaded enough and just the right amount of clever without being too clever for Zoro
on the way to FMI and on the way to Egghead
Why is his horse body white
Zoro vs Killingham soon
Oda can’t shade colors
I like this guy better in his goofy form
I like the holy knights, Idk why people hate on them
Kill-ingham
Do people hate on them?!
So he's going to destroy a whole village?
Killing Ham 😔
yeah all the time
it should be empty now
Only con is that they’re colored like a circus
They expected all of them to be admiral level or higher 😔
They’re stupid
It's not tho
the colors are cool
Why would this matter? There's no one in the castle anyway?
This arc will end in nigh-destruction of elbaf, might as well start it off tbh
Killingham might have more than just the 3 standard Zoan forms btw, he's currently in hybrid but the first form we saw him in shouldn't be full zoan, it looks more like a hybrid 2
skill issue from their part
It mostly is, they were evaucating already but Jarul and a few warriors chose to stay
@lofty fern have you read the Law novel?!

Sadly no
I don’t like immortality being New World Logias
I have
Dude you gotta get on that shit
well the point was that he would take the Giant Pirates there lol
It’s so fucking good
I dont think Oda would write something like that here
I cried dude it made me cry 😭
I've heard it's now in English
I love Bepo so much
I couldnt resist reading what other backstories Law will make up
The village and a castle is a small price to pay if it works out
I dont mind
They’re beating their asses and Elbaf allies with SHs to fight in the final war like that mural predicted.
Same
“Why did you let them beat you like that? You could surely beat them back with your size and strength?”
“I thought that maybe after they were done, they would want to be my friends.”
Just gotta make sure no one falls tho
But that would just kick the can down the road? You're not killing them and they would just come back up. Especially with the rainbow bridges
BABY BOY NO
Besides the bad guys
SWEET BOY
I'll have to see if its available near me
It’s so good
I felt so bad lol
Its so Bepo
I kinda wish the giants were on the WG side to make them more of a threat but I know that isnt happening
thats fine, it would save Jarul's life right now atleast and let them focus on the other enemies, the HKs and Imu
It’d be an interesting twist if they lost but I’m so tired of hearing the same shit over and over again. “SHs lose this arc” for the 5th arc in the row isn’t cutting for me. They are winning. Like always. Especially in such crucial moment where Nika has to fight the evil people directly.
That’s good. That means their heel heat is working
Villains should get hated 
How many books is it?
HKs hate is 99.99% because of GV specific powerscaling takes
I really like how being super pensive and hard on himself is a running theme, and as the novel goes on Law, Penguin, and Sachi start becoming more and more encouraging to him to compensate
It would only give them like 20 mins max
If SHs lost this arc btw it would mean really bad news for both Luffy and USOPP.
Just one! It’s 4 chapters and an epilogue
I read half of it in like, 5 hours
Luffy will lose to Kata
The raid will fail
Egghead the SHs lose
Elbaf gets taken by Imu
Gotcha, looks like Walmart has it
this is the first time I would prefer if it happened but I get what you mean Imu isnt going to win
in what way?
eh probably a lot longer, I am sure that fall would hurt them bad enough to force them to regenerate for a bit as well
yeah it's just stupid
Law learning how to use the Op Op was really cool and well detailed too. I liked how, even though it was written before G5, there’s similar themes between the two
And how the Op Op “spoke” to law via his heartbeat
Bear in mind tho
It’s not hating when it’s Garling
Bear in mind?! 
Garling is legit the most pathetic nigga
Yeah, I like lumberjacks
he is pathetic yeah but theyve gotta respect Maffey
do you know how long 20 mins is in a manga?!
I didnt know people were saying Luffy will lose to Kata, seems that this cycle always repeat itself lol
thats like 60 chapters
her being cut by a stray slash from WB is not worth slandering her for
its ridiculous
Facts look at them bazongas
In the way that Nika losing sets up a bad precedent that the nation that believes in him sees his failure directly.
And for Usopp it would mean that his character arc would be in shambles. He’s the guy who should round up giants to follow him into the battle, to motivate them, yada-yada, something like that. And it should happen NOW
Zoro can also use Foxfire since that’s Elbaph weakness
I mean he doesnt seem to do it right now so maybe he would do it after they lose
fair enough
Flying Flames of Hell Slash Destroyer 
But destroying the land won't get rid of Imu and the knights 😂
Almost misread that as Fortnite
but I dont see Usopp doing anything this arc (I'm coping and I hope I'm wrong)
It’s about separating the giants so you don’t get in between them
Scatter the pieces
That still means the first point is valid. These guys came to save Elbaf. And their group losing is just really bad for the plot this time.
"Just kill all the giants so Imu doesnt have anyone to control and leaves"
Oh yeah sorry I didn't scroll up my bad lol
Hmmmm smart actually 🤣
They’ll survive
If we destroy Elbaph, they can’t take Elbaph 🤔
Considering what Oda's been doing with time? It's hard to tell
Everyone who’s fallen to the underworld has survived in some way 🤣
its a lot longer than 20 mins put it that way
Like the whole situation revolves around children. If they lose that means the children are taken hostage and WG has the call to execute or torture them at any point. They have to win, lol.
You channeling your inner demon I see
regen from fall damage or anything like that takes seconds. We see that from Saturn
Bepo in mind as we say here
eh theres a difference in heights here lol
"let the kids fall, we dont care! we'll still kick your asses"
but the point is, it will stall them long enough to deal with the HKs
thats the whole idea here
wtf why is the quality so bad for that ss
AI infected it
yeah this is why I dont see them losing
I don't think "dealing with the HK" is going to be some walk in the park and I think it will take longer than 20 mins

Let’s goo I have had this theory for so long lol
Ever since I saw the tree
Wyper returns with 100 reject dials so they can bring the Adam tree to fall like the Giant Jack
If Uranus comes to elbaf and nukes the top of the tree we could see Zoro cut the top of the tree
Zoro commits mass genocide 🥹
Holup that could be a w plan
Zoro needs a big cut double page spread
Another
I miss days of pica
Next chapter 
Zoro makes all of Elbaph homeless and much more succeptable to Imu's control. All because of Zoro
They still want the children

I don't think that's what he was saying lol
he is trust
Lowkey you right that arc does lack all 3
the kids deserve to fall for being little shits anyway
Colon the only cool one
well and the speech girl
Ronja or whatever
The depressed girl is also cool
the one that people thought was gonna be Loki's kid?
Collun is the reason why they’re still a hostage so
What about Road’s lil bro
Think she’s an ancient giant
I mean the adam tree could fall on the demonic giants
Yeah
Road having a redeeming quality for once is nice to see
Jarul’s grand daughter is also adorable
Writing: Kuros genius plan
Hype moment: When Luffy and Usopp beat Kuro and Jango at the same time
Aura: Wuro
What more do you want?
He at least cares about his brother
Holy shit, this is the most zoro mindset I’ve ever heard
It can work

Or zoro goes into the abyss and cuts the ties with the demons, bringing the original souls back into the giants 👁️ 
King of Hell cuts their ties
YC this sounds so gpt generated
i think only the Wuro part saves it
maybe im just an AI programmed to push the Kuro agenda
if you throw one of those dashes uhh em dashes or whatever it would be 10/10
Is the odyssey coming out this year or next year?
This
Big
Huge
Humongous
Collun nearly got his dad killed
uh? based?

Gaban should have been faster, simple as
I would disown Collun ngl
outsped by Gunko
I wonder if Ace visited Elbaph
If Collun spent more time in class maybe he wouldn' t be such an idiot
Probably
Another ace fb incoming
He's been around the world at this point
Ace was actually friends with Gunko
I can see Gaban having met Ace at some point
where did Ace meet Oars Jr anyways
Heaven realm!?
I think we saw them on an island though, meeting for the first time
We have a bunch of people waiting for us up there
What if it actually is heaven
no wonder he needed that huge hat for the shade
And Ace returns
We bring Ace and WB and Roger all back to life
Roger teaches luffy a super secret haki technique
okay I guess this was just with the WBP
also Oda is insane, I forgot he had directly namedropped Wano here
Tama foreshadowed Goda
this reminds me of an argument Oli had for T4N
T4N was simpler times
that she was foreshadowed here because she's meant to be a future SH
T4N = Tama for Nakama?
the idea of her being an apprentice like Shanks and Buggy, that was fun as hell
give Luffy an apprentice
Tama would solo Ragnir with her devil fruit
true
so true
thats actually one possibility with Usopp and Ragnir btw
Usopp did get a lot of dango to convert the Gifters
what if
he still has some of it?
though, it would require a regular squirrel to have eaten a hammer fruit
wont matter
idk if that would be a thing
Tama needs to give orders
right true true
Usopp could feed the dango but he wouldn't have control over Ragnir
???????
okay he can just befriend him the old fashioned way, thats fine too
Tama would have been cool, would do better than Usopp
One kick from gunko wouldve disintegrated tama
Tama negs Imu so false
Mayor Boodle buff incoming
why was he so cold tho
Hes always tuff
cant believe I survived a 2 month break for this mid ass chapter
Someone gonna ride the Holy Land elevator and see a moment exactly like this during the final war 😭
Well we're about to go on a 6 month break so buckle up
GODA 
it wasnt mid it was
alright
Kinda good ngl
I gave it a 6 too
What’s the point in even rating a pure setup chapter
It’s not meant to be strictly good or bad. It’s just necessary
i was rating just to say 67
I’ll allow it
damn that was long ago
yeah you're right I guess
Actually tbf
This chapter isn’t pure setup
The Jarul speech is genuinely a good scene
yea it would hit a lot harder if we didn't see him get mogged by 5yo linlin
Young BM really fucked up the powerscaling for Elbaf.
yeah it's pretty good, it lowkey sets up the giants standing against the WG
in the future
LOL
I believe Snod and someone else proved that was AI coloring a few weeks back
Cloud logia
me noticing there's lyrics in the corner of the album I'm listening to, and it makes no sense
gerd
Love how ai gave usopp back his melanin
W ai
It’s luffy lol
AI has defeated Oda
Wait never mind it’s gerd
the more I think about the more I like Jarul's speech, it def hits harder after he told Loki to not fight the WG last chapter
So true
Yea it makes me think back to the authors note like Loki chose to chained up by shanks to protects harald legacy
Na words don’t matter
Only hype, aura and strength

AI saw this dude
it saved the chapter
Maybe gerd
That’s ganfell
No Waldo is on laugh tale

That’s why no one can find him
Pandaman is the Waldo of One Piece. 
yall genshin is coming to fortnite before one piece
It's fine. One Piece fans deserve to suffer.
Good. Fortnite is filth, don’t let it sully one piece
Yeah I remember that. Super cool.
One piece is finally coming to Fortnite but I don’t care they’re 5 years too late
Find Tama
is don chinjao's head still back to normal?
didn't sai ruin it again?
not before Leslie Knope and Young Sheldon
wasnt it Lao G? I dont remember
maybe it was
Leslie Knope is goated
I’d unironically buy a Leslie Knope skin
It was Sai
Thats why he was declared the leader of the Happo Navy, he was deemed worthy of succeeding Chinjao with that feat by Chinjao
Sai and Baby 5 were having this whole argument because Baby 5 actually nearly killed herself when Sai jokingly told her to do it and Chinjao was like "just let her do it" and Sai kicked him for it lol
Yea lol
that was some underwhelming chapter
Oda fell off?
No
And a good chapter at that
oh lol yeah now I remember
twas a set up chapter, those type of chapter always come around
The reactions have actually been positive here, I'm glad
its fine
i was afraid that people were going to become spoiled by the flashback
We're still the normal part of the fanbase, its nice to see
Twitter was going insane over it, acting like Oda dropped some filler
typical
standard twitter behaviour
This might sound crazy but I didnt care for the flashback
Oda could drop the best manga chapter in all of manga & twitter would still say Oda fell off
i think that's fair too
at the end of the day, you're reading the manga for different reasons
I went in there to see some reactions and it's like people dont know what series they're reading
some read it for lore, some for fighting some for both combined
i read it because i love One Piece
I am actually loving what's going on right now mostly
exact opposite is also true. he could drop the biggest stinker and some will still glaze it
you are the elbaf war?
People if a chapter doesnt have boobs or combat slop
oh
Jesus man its been ridiculous over there lol, every single take makes me scratch my head because how did we as a fanbase get there
boobs (balls) or combat (guns) slop
i see it
No malrin smh
personally, i've enjoyed both aspects there's been so much new stuff spoon fed to us from the flashback, knowing that we still have a major conflict in the present not solved yet it has brough out a sense of excitement for what's next no matter if it's the flashback or present time
I like the characters in one piece
the thing you said about Brook being evil is crazy lol
We’ve made fun of “setup chapter” detractors in this server since before the pandemic. There’s always going to be that side of things unfortunately
ILLU IS TYPING??????
Lies
I align with this more or less. It was just Rocks in particular I didnt care for.
I am not sure which one it is? People having short term memories? Or just not reading at all? But being so offended by a kind of chapter that Oda has dropped a million times over the course of the series has me shocked.
that's understandable, considering that it came outta left field more or less
I knew twitter would call this a filler chapter, I predicted it the second I read it
But thats the thing yknow, I thought people would be more accustomed to the idea of it by now
they should expect this type of chapters from time to time tho, it's kinda silly
We've been getting gold these past few years and all they want to talk about is what we're not getting.
Life shifted around a bit so I got more time to pop in lol
Also yea welcome back illu, long time no see
Wait huh, we are making fun of set ups now
too much gold, makes you stop appreciating silver
is a quote a read somewhere, feels fitting
setup/recap chapters like these are needed when we have 12 different things happening across the island and shit
We've had setups since alabasta tho
fandom dynamics never change, regardless of franchise
Did you hear gold and silver crashed in the stock market today, much to think about.
I dont understand their mentality, this is part of every single arc. Maybe it was because of the long december and January breaks that made people react like this to this one specifically.
You can blame leak culture (especially worst gen) for this
Its funny because the pacing has only gotten faster and faster, you wouldn't just have one setup chapter just 10 years ago, you'd be having whole stretches of setup chapters
did people actually expect we wouldn't get a setup/recap chapter after coming out of the fb?
Syrup Village arc was like half setup chapters lmao
And readers would be more justified in complaining back then for sure but now...
if anything we're going so fast some would say its too fast leaving behind more in depth stuff or something like that
Nah people react to that cause this chapter isn’t agenda focused
Exactly yeah
god could you imagine what twitter would be like if dbz was coming out now instead of like the early 90's
it would be hell
Imagine today’s fandom while Luffy and Co. were still on that goddamn ramp against the Black Cat Pirates for another damn chapter
and z is the one that is the most gas compared to the others lol
i'm so thankful that it was spared from agenda
I mean beginning of Elbaf was pretty much set up chapters before holy knights showed up
I didnt notice the set up chapters until I caught up to weekly back in 2020, we might be spoiled lol
though the new Super news will undoubtedly recieve it's fair share of agenda posters
People even back then were saying the Syrup Village battle was long in the tooth
We're going lightning quick now, as Oda himself said. Any faster would be straight up problematic, it even has been already honestly
lmao, people would drop like flies
Yeah Toriyama would get even more slander than any current mangakas right now 💀
Qbz you're not ever allowed to talk about this
Cross Guild finds the one piece next chapter
Birdcage would be considered fandom genocide
i get it, having objectively correct opinions just shuts down the discussion
Yeah it’s massive deal for sure
I like your Garfield pfp. It’s peak
i wonder how people would react to LRLL if it released today
All Garfield pfps are peak
LONG RING LONG LAND BABYYYY
probably whining
Trueee
nah we're at the middle rn the perfect pace, I dont want to go fast
people wouldn't like Foxy, because he is too goofy
they'd say that there's no real threat
LRLL was great
Foxy has the St Chromotopia hair
loved it since before it became linked to Rocks
Qbz wants this shit to end in like 3 years I'm convinced
If we could speed up every fight a little I wouldn’t mind
The debates about the Davy Back fight would be unbearable
“You edgelords just hate fun”
“Oda worshippers loving literal manga filler”
Etc etc
about 120-150 chapters seems right to me, 4-5 years
See like that's ridiculous
Disappear again and ima get mad. Only warning
i remember enjoying LRLL a lot when i watched it in the anime, because if i remember correctly it had a animation update at the time when those episodes came
7 years
Anyways speaking of Elbaf’s pacing and length https://x.com/emunopla/status/2017300054898299196?s=46
It feels like cheating to include the god valley flashback
Yeah LRLL arc would be very miserable to experience that weekly in modern days 😭
crazy that a good chunk was just the fb
am i crazy to say that i wouldn't be surprised if Elbaph reaches Wano's length
late 2032-anytime in 2033 is the time one piece will end
a lot can happen in 150 chapters, we fighting ice oni 150 chapters ago
It was our 3D2Y 
its gonna be top 3/4 by the end
Yeah you’re insane
God valley flashbacks is still within Elbaf arc so they count
I think it’ll surpass Enies Lobby or Alabasta tbh
I am expecting that tbh
and waiting for the 5 mintues that it took luffy to get back in g4 LOL people would hate it to oblivion
I know but it’s like a detour. It’s not really Elbaph content
So yeah bareminimum 6 years but probably more likely to be 7
Yeah and we still have shit ton of stuff that is yet to wrapped up too, Elbaf will be staying for a while
if it were up to you Imu would be defeated this same arc lol, so no, in this specifically you're tweakin
Definitely surpassing Egghead like at least I am expect 70 chapters at minimum.
i can see it be a 100 chapters arc tbh, but i think around 80-90 is where we'll end up
nah nah we're good like this
I think it'll be a little longer than Egghead, maybe Dressrosa length at most
if i were the editor id probably shave down the beginning of elbaf just a tiny bit. say 3-5 chapters. Id also have shaved down the end of egghead about 5 chapters.
Yeah, but not all that you're thinking of. The war alone is going to be as long as you're thinking the remainder of the series will be.
It is elbaf content cause what happened at god valley is relevant to current day Elbaf and how it impacted Harald
I prefer that Oda takes his sweet time instead of rushing
maybe i am being tricked into thinking so, just because the scale of Elbaph in of itself
but right now it feels like one of the last giant arcs, similair to Wano with the rooftop and all that, we've got different layers on Elbaph too
Will surpass even Egghead
i prefer the final war not be uber long. MF was perfect.
tweakin
Act 3 was like 100 chapters on its own, no way that final arc can be shorter than act 3
things can go faster as threads converge. see marineford. The fact that there are more threads to converge doesnt change that principle it just slightly affects the scale
120 chapters, when Elbaf itself at the most minimum has 30 chapters left, leaves you to deal with the rest of the story in 90 chapters. How could that possibly make any sense
im hoping its 3 only if it ends up with the much needed upgrades and training they clearly need.
i count the start of Egghead, as the start of the final war
id disagree elbaf has 30 chapters left
Reading Elbaf is weird. It’s undoubtedly 10/10 content but it just isn’t hitting for me personally as much. I think I’m just not a fan of Viking stuff all that much. Loving the lore reveals and what not though. And Loki is the goodest boy and should be protected at all costs. Not a SH tho
Does post reverie content between Wano acts count towards Wano run time?
it's going to surpass Alabasta probably
Yeah like I don’t think it will be as long as Wano but Elbaf could easily be either Dressrosa length at most or WCI length at least.
yes
I just dont believe Oda can get everything else done in like 50 chapters to have 100 chapters for the war because that's not enough time for that final arc or for any of the stuff leading up to it
ah i was counting the moment fists start flying in a physical battle at the new MF
yeah no matter what i think its gonna be top 5 length
understandable, the mention of the final war having been in the background ever since Vegapunks message has just stuck with me
it will be long. oda will make sure everyone is on the reaction piece xd thats been the setup since the start. MF and Egghead was mini test runs
i think if some of yall had your way we'd still be going 20 years from now. And thered be another timeskip or two in there
i do, however, see Egghead as the start of the final saga
Yeah I think Elbaf might end up being one of the longest arc before the final one, but after Egghead I had learned my lesson to not underestimate how many chapters the arc will have anymore lol
you would be fired fr
Earliest I can see op ending is like 1380's-1390's
Its funny to still say that the arc has 30 chapters left, cause thats what was being said 10 chapters ago too, and will be said in the next 10 too
oh yeah maybe that's more accurate
i see it as the prelude
Post reverie does 100% count in this
oh yeah, people thought Egghead would be anothe Zou
egghead does have an arguably slow start
Fanbase still traumatized by 3rd act
Wano had literally two sections of set up with a massive cast of characters, it's not the same at all
Yeah and most likely Skypiea and Egghead too.
Marineford is not a good comparison, I always say this
there are quite a few that don't want it to end anytime soon because they are not ready for it mentally
does Marijoa being on fire with fighting and foood shortage count as the final war technically?
i feel like it's similair, maybe not as many characters but the scale of Elbaph in itself is massive and we still don't have a clue on what's going on in the heaven-realm
Yeah, possibly even top 3
it's all i got for reference
Yeah if Enies Lobby is separate from W7, why not Onigashima and Wano?
good chance of it yeah
I was one of them lmao
Final War is either going to feel dragged on or cut too short. Not underestimating Oda but I’m just setting my expectations to be surprised if it’s done well
considering we call the arc final war and not final battle, probably 
Because Onigashima is labeled act 3 of Wano.
act 4 soon
the Viking aesthetic is def better than whatever egghead was imo, and yes Loki is the goat
egghead being long doesnt mean every subsequent arc need be long. It being long means it covers more ground (introducing all gorosei, making everyone in the world aware of the stakes) and therefore subseuqent arcs can be shorter
Wano is split into 3 acts including Onigashima and Onigashimo is still within Wano's borders
I'm hoping we just get it short and sweet from oda and then toei just extends it. Like we get like a bartolomeo fight against someone, we see maybe 2 panels in the manga, but maybe it's like 5 minutes in an episode
I actually had the same feeling about Egghead lmao
Just seems arbitrary. I don’t think Wano should be split up, but Enies lobby should be considered a continuation of W7
Meanwhile W7 and Enies Lobby are conjoined but still exist as their own arcs.
Onigashima is literally the 3rd act
ridicoulus
W7/EL is one arc ngl, idc what people say
Jaya/Skypiea too?
I can see your point but “Less is more” sounds real prudent until the things you wanted resolved get absolutely chopped ngl
We saw that in Wano
Wano had like 50 chapters of set up, Elbaph had like 10 before things started to roll. Not a good comparison.
I think the problem with the Marineford comparisons is that it was meant to be quite the one of a kind arc, the main focus is Luffy solo and everything surrounding him is just a massive storm that he's caught up in. Oda very comfortably gets away without showing much, admitting that each chapter of Marineford would be 60 pages if he did need to show everything. In reality its a 90 chapter arc condensed into 30 because of its nature.
i mean we're still in the set up of Elbaph, i feel
Eh, well i mostly just mean plot points are still worked out but stuff like fights are all condensed
we dont have a good reference of how the final war can go down tho, it'll be something massive
Jaya has a distinct conflict. W7 and Enies Lobby have the through line of CP9
Luffy and Loki aren't even on the main conflict yet
true
Oda, use Uranus to kill half the cast and shorten the war
i think i will only believe we are in the final war after it ends and theres no more wars
elbaph conflict won’t be as long as ppl think
Oda would try to make it as short as he possibly can without compromising too much for rest of the series. age is not on his side and he would want to see the whole thing through. i can see the pace getting even faster at some point
I feel you. If I HAD to choose I’d prefer more dragged out moments so that nothing feels like it’s missed. I feel like it’s going to be a mix of the two depending on the subject matter.
Doc Q can make the "Kill everyone that is padding the story" disease
I swear if I see Kuro fighting in that war I'm done
I think a similar effect will occur. Everything will not be shown. Some things will just be implied. I dont think showign every little thing is actually going to be good, thats what made the raid on onigashima bad. Well not bad bad but worse than it could have been
that's fair, if I had to choose between those two option I would prefer it to feel dragged lol. I hate when things are rushed because you're close to the finish line
fuck fuck fuck
guys i just did a major fumble
Marin what did you do
huh
went into my irl group chat and sent a whole ass message in english
who'd you kill?
i crossed the streams
lol
You were caught englishceling in front of the hoes
😂😂
Its over
fuuuuuuuuuuuuck dude
the seahawks in 2015
englishmaxxing 
Marin is never recovering from this
might be homeless soon
they're winning this super bowl
Redemption is coming
This did happen
You’re gonna get burger’d
super bowl might be one sided this time
I think Oda should waste 60 chapters showing us the natural progression of how Den Mushis are made.
are they in the superbowl this year
anyway im done lunch bye again. Im sure the reality will meet in the middle of these two extremes and both sides of the spectrum will have a mix of happiness and disappointment
yep
eh, I dont think so
i haven't watched a single game but february is coming up
Bye bye
hope they lose agian
me too
Rams lost, so i don't care
who are they against
that doesnt mean things arent already set up
patriots
patriots are kinda outta place here
They’re playin the patriots correct yourself
no fucking way
Possible but usually in one piece arcs set up arcs tend to be shorter than the rest of arcs within sagas, Egghead is a set up arc so it isn’t far fetched to assume Elbaf might end up longer than that.
they are like luffy in marineford😂
Patriots sre dangerous
i rooted for the patriots the first time
and my pages are full of drake may edits
Fuck the Patriots anyways but double fuck Stefon Diggs so
I dont know what football is I just root for whoever is winning
Final war has a chance to surpass Wano in chapter length for sure if it’s the same arc as Laughtale.
pats fan 🥹
Plus the Seahawks got Punished Darnold on a warpath
Would Luffy like the Patriots
Can anyone who likes football confirm this
I DONT KNOW
Man I didn't read this Onigashima that showed every little thing lol. A lot of things were offscreened, or very briefly shown. Even with that type of pacing, an arc of that nature that had to involve the entire crew and so many other characters and move through different stages of ups and downs for the good guys took 70 chapters, with the final war the scale is on an entirely different level
5 year long arc LET’S GO
Would Luffy even like american football
He's a soccer guy methinks
The only one who would like Football is Franky
I'm convinced that the final war will include multiple arcs, there's no way it's just one huge arc with the amount of things at stake
He would mald over the Dolphins losing their 50th game
I think he’d like both but hate field goals in gridiron
it might happen lol
1 year long flashback for another Shanks triplet reveal
elbaph is panning away to other locations by 1190 @hot cairn
same arc but different viewpoints
Ks he teaming up with the other guy
I think the final war is going to be the most overly ambitious most annoyingly long arc in all of One Piece
Marineford but worse
he'd punch people while holding the ball just like he used the katana in wano lmao
wasn't this a command?
it's already building up to that
Oda literally did the entire rest of the manga as a prologue with it in mind. Of course
It's gonna be exhausting
This is what Jarul is going to tell Luffy when they lose completely to Imu without much resistance
Oh Marineford would look cute in comparison
wdym
Get Franky on a football team he would go crazy
Leave it to luck
Wano already made Marineford look cute tbh
I mean its going to be more of a spectacle but I feel like it won't live up to it.
Cause Wano itself is filled with multiple islands being formed as country including Onigishima, while Enies Lobby is whole different island all together separated from water 7 if I recall correctly.
That is my personal opinion
What would Franky’s Gatorade hair look like?
Marineford despite its flaws is still a very unique arc.
this is what people who think one piece is ending in 150 chapters dont get
You have to understand that Oda has literally geeked out over this shit on 6 or 7 different occasions
He has been waiting his entire life to draw this final war
cutaway to whatever is happening in the holy land
i don’t think imu will stick around for more then 15-18 chapters
won’t have a very long drawn out fight with luffy and loki either
I hate you so so much
maybe Loki actually gets flipped
Ok and I geeked out over Big Mom for 6 or 7 years
If it takes place on Laugh tale then most likely
And look what happened
and that’s Luffy main fight in Elbaph
taking his sweet time smh
then the arc might just end by then
One piece in Oda’s mind
I dont think it'll take place on laughtale
imus possession of gunko seems different then the saturn one

Would be ironic cause that was originally how Oda wanted to end one piece early on since it was first serialized
nasty burn lmao
Laughtale is the Teech arcm
LOL it might not be too far from that
but yea, Its gonna be the arc that he goes the most insane in, I genuinely, lowkenuinely, lowkirkenuinely wouldn't be surprised if it actually goes well over 200 chapters on its own
It’s 50/50 for me
Hopefully it isn't just clash piece
How do we tell them?
200 chapters is crazy
it’s going to be clash piece unless u are one of the main characters
Especially with so many threads that are in front of us.
Is is 100% going to be clash piece
200 chapters of haki clash
anime will extend the fights, I dont mind if we just clash in the manga
60/40, 60 being clash piece
we dont need to see every fight
60/70
Anime extending it with more clashes
I don't think so
I dont need to see Kreig fighting soldier number 7
I used to remind people all the time that the Shichibukai arcs were like… literally not supposed to exist. We were supposed to get right to the Emperors lmao
@fossil nimbus what would you do if zoro vs mihawk ends up being a single clash
200 chapters is like 6 year at his current pace, right?
Oda will get carried away with it, its an arc that will start at 130 chapters in his mind and go 220
If that happens I might just have to erase one piece from my memory
Yea 6-7 years of final war is the idea
Oda literally can’t help himself when it comes to throwing in new content to ongoing arcs
oda getting closer to 60 as a shonen mangaka and thinking he can extend it to 200 chapters is funny.
230 chapters left
Oda is old man
as if Oda is getting younger lol
200 chapters of final war is way too much
it might not be 200 chapters long
Yeah
the final war has almost begun technically
there is a very real chance Oda might die before finishing the series at this rate. welcome to the real world
200 chapters of the final war is insane
Don't even entertain that lmao
don't bury your heads in the sand about this
Good thing hes been training me
one piece would be left unfinished forever if that happened
final war will be 30 chapters
No it wouldn't.
Ayo I love you Buffy but shut the hell up wtf 
its not as important as wano
They plan this out well. IE Berserk.
Well I hope not is all I can say to that lol
no one wants it
Arsal think about it
dont say it
how old is Oda
Nobody wants it.
51
51
Its a hard reality to think about it.
he wont do 200 chapters of final war
as of jan 1
it might be divided into sections
He's my dad's age, the lack of sleep is the main thing I worry about

Honestly his age isnt so bad till you remember his health issues alongside the copious of hours he spends.
oda should have someone willing to help. hell, he should be getting help now
My prediction is that at one point, Oda will make a permanent schedule change
Oda is COOKED
yeah his age isnt bad but he has a lot of health issues
Yeah plus Vivi, Rob Lucci, entire Super Nova weren’t supposed to be a thing either.
Hell Law wasn’t supposed to be that important at all.
lack of sleep, bad diet, stressful deadlines
he should let someone else draw while he still work in the story
He absolutely needs to take care of himself. Which is why I have never been angry of a break. In fact I actually think he needs it
Relatable
I wonder if he smokes
he sounds too relatable
I want him to take long breaks if he feels better after it.
i'd be happy if he sketched out the pages and got someone to ink for him
Doesn't he also have relatively bad eyesight too

Its gonna have to happen, no avoiding it at some point. I think that's key to longevity and he'll have to understand it
Or at least worsening faster than usual.
One Piece will never end if this happens
this is what clones are for
he used to be a chain smoker. oh, and mangakas are naturally sedative and probably get little exercise
Nah he did get eye surgery, its better now
he had surgery
literally no fan would complain if oda did 2 chapter then break every single time for health reasons
it'd be more consistent
you know that OP would never end if that happened right?
I don't think so
they did surgery on an oda 😭 💀 🫱
Picked up and dropped the habit last year, terrible thing to put on your body and does next to nothing to actually relieve the stress
stick to coffee like me
yeah man
He needs to follow the path of Arakiism
I don't think he should rush towards the end at this schedule thinking he can just relax after its all done
what does he do?
damn he looks fantastic
I wanna start drinking tea instead of coffee and energy drinks but I've never really had tea much
Araki is the main example that I always have in mind when I talk about schedules lol
bro uses cheats
Switched JoJo’s to monthly and is now making the best manga of his life at like, age 60
i love tea so much: black, oolong, green, and white.
araki mogs oda
what does he do?
He's 65, doing monthly manga, and he's going strong
Hope 1173 is actually a good chapter
Art has never looked better
Story has never been better
Oda needs to take notes
oh
how long are the chapters
Weekly manga is the chitlin circuit made mainstream
White tea???
His monthly shift was at like, age 40, and then he did his best work ever since then yeah
I imagine Oda still believes he can keep going at his current rate. and may be too prideful to ask for help
I feel like if OP goes monthly Oda would die before it's over @graceful belfry @ashen perch
Holy shit, Illu
op isn’t gonna go monthly most likely
Yeah I second this. One Piece being monthly would be a mixed bag for me.
Interesting
the shonen jump dies if op goes monthly
if something happens to Oda it might
Does it taste like vanilla?
shonen jump as it is right now needs one piece more then ever
On one hand, Oda being able to rest monthly would be fantastic but I think this creates its own issues
But as I was saying Jesus, I think thats a flawed way of looking at things but I do think Oda probably agrees with you lol
Nah it'd probably just be the equivalent of one less chapter a month in terms of pages, if the chapters are longer to compensate for being monthly
I think OP would be finish in my 60s in it happened
Such as my sadness
it does
black, oolong, green, and white tea all come from the same plant: camellia sinensis
Oda should drop one piece and start a harem isekai manga
Fully unleash his inner perv
a milder flavor than green tea
Now I wanna try it
I think monthly would only be really bad if it was still like 17 page chapters
I feel like he doesnt want to die before finishing, and doing it monthly would 100% end on his death before the manga is over
that would be pain
This schedule kills already
I’ll reverse soul snatch Oda to keep him alive
what if it's like black clover and it's the same amount of pages
Weekly manga production is hell, see any mangaka's thoughts on it and they'd say the same thing
but if it's like 50 pages a chapter once a month thats not that bad
read bakuman
Idk what that means
Its lifespan shortening, its suicidal
I’d weep from joy and fear
I dropped black clover
Black Clover comes out every 3 months to 17 chapters lol
Well that would be pretty bad yeah
I don't think thats true, it drops multiple chapters together
I'd just drop the series
He ended up taking a surgery which resulted in one month hiatus during egghead
that's what I did
Actually Jesus there's no way that's true
I swear I saw it drop 3 chapters together lol
Well thats still pretty bad
same😂
publish every 3 months kills the hype tbh
3 17 pages chapters every 3 months is still basically a 17 page chapter a month
4 months wait for 51 pages
But yea, the way I see it, going through this weekly hell for the remainder of the series is more likely to claim Oda than a monthly schedule ever could
if u gonna drop 10 chapters a year, at least make them longer then usual
v jump chapters are around 35-40 pages monthly
Yeah it would take longer to end the series but he would be doing it on a healthier schedule
Is it health issues that the author does that
And its worth it for that
Fuck his health
bro
do it
You won't have manga at all if his health is fucked man
You're starting to sound like socrates you might be him
Wrestlers sacrifice decades to graps
no one will complain if its 1 chapter every 2 weeks
Oda gives himself CTE
Yea wrestlers are very stupid though
maybe they'll switch if Oda gets really sick
Well I'd hope they avoid getting to that stage lol
there is people who complains when there is break after 3 chap streak just saying 
it would literally never end
but yes if Oda goes monthly, a roughly 50 page chapter every month would not be that bad
oda hasn’t taken a extended break in a while
last time he was out for weeks is surgery
Watch I get nipple cancer for saying this
or even like 45 pages, either way
so true just get back to work and give me more OP fr fr
the 1 month break in summer was a good idea but he stopped doing that
if an author dies does the series keep going?
Uhh it depends on the series
if this year he is involved in s3 of live action i feel he gonna take 1 month break again
I think the amount of breaks they give him is fine to avoid that
You don't give them breaks when it gets to a point where they can barely function, you give em breaks to avoid them getting there. This is the thing that always baffles me about Togashi's situation because it could've been avoided if the industry cared about its mangaka
I mean he already does drop at most 3 chapters a month, and often less so it's not necessarily too bad compared to other mangaka but I'm sure it takes a toll still
so it's good that they're giving Oda breaks then no?
I’ll finish OP if he does
Oda probably gets more breaks than the average mangaka if I had to guess
but idk if there's a universal schedule at this point or not
I love you brother, but I would drop if this ends up happening

no cap
I know what Oda is thinking
Yeah the industry has gotten better at this after the horrific stories that have come out but its still not quite enough I feel
no you dont
Oda also is stupid about this sadly
He'd rather there be no breaks at all
He's insane
Oda is like King Workaholic
He's hardly the only one who thinks like that though
Sui Ishida somehow got it set up to where he can release Choujin X chapters at whatever times are most convenient for him
You could argue there's almost a culture in the industry to take as few breaks as possible and work for as long and as hard as possible
I think manga artists should be encouraged to write smaller stories on average. But that doesn't pay the bills. The longer the series runs, the more money
Yeah he isn't but I have never heard a mangaka say "damn I'd soon finish drawing 30 pages every single week if they let me"
Its like he doesn't care about himself
Well that's because Oda just has too many ideas in his head
and he wants to do all of them but he cant
longer series are kinda better too
He's overly ambitious
at this times its almost impossible to a manga to run even half time as one piece
it feels like he’s been itching to get to the endgame for decades now lol
20-30 volume series is the realistic sweetspot for Shonen series, probably
I understand him
They can be. And then there are opposite examples like Death Note.
Oda HAS to have the plot written out somewhere in his room for someone to continue it
Manga have definitely been trending to be shorter on average I feel, I dont think most of the new series mangaka want to go for as long as any of the big 3 did
he probably does but there’s probably too much
He’s like the Charlie Day meme
Yea I have heard of that. This would be so good for the entire industry, honestly. Like people would initially miss the buzz generated by weekly or whatever but I feel like they'd get on board and maybe the further anticipation would generate more buzz? Idk, but still the ideal situation for mangaka atleast
Mid piece
Otherwise there's gonna be a ton of video essays on "The overly ambitious author"
Can Shonen continue One Piece, the current story, without his consent if he were to theoretically quit?
they tried many times to make parallel to the big 3 with the new generations but is difficult to think there will be another big 3
I'm convinced he's got a whole room for it
I doubt that tbh, but they'd never let him and he'd never anyways
maybe the generations that start after one piece ends can do it
Oda would never quit
Oda's kid will continue the manga
Haikyuu could have gone on forever if Furudate wanted, but he had enough 
in her artstyle too
This me and Oda
????
I wish more people were open to the idea of less hype in exchange for a simply better manga industry overall. You’d think everyone would want that, but there are some people too addicted to their weekly fix and some mangaka who are clear workaholics, which is a broader Japan issue really
Togashi feels like a very unfortunate case even now, since he was clearly so talented it's just he cant really do it anymore
You dont want to pull a RaG
I understand him
"they'd never let him" sounds like a threat
no wdym by “lower”
i dont need to know what that means but furudate is a good writer so it wouldnt happen
Huh? Where you see that at?
Rent a girlfriend is RaG
I remember when Araki went from weekly to monthly on SBR and the difference was actually incredible.
I know your tricks
yes i know i was referring to the "to pull a RaG" part
Dragging
I think some younger mangaka have just decided that they're gonna be done by a certain point instead of letting the series they're working on get to be like 500+ chapters long
Monthly chapters who are longer and better drawn are way better
just because something goes long doesnt mean it's dragging
that's just the author being inept
furudate is not inept
Yup, still furry
furry
You asked
Like I cant think of any new series that have the potential to go on for even 400 chapters
ichi the witch definitely can if it wants
If anybody in here guesses my favorite song I’ll send you 10 whole dollars
i dont think it will, but it could
We are socrates
I'm like 30-40 chapters into it and idk I feel like it'll be 200 chapters at most
Aqua - Barbie Girl
We honour his name
Yea I think people don't consider that they'd get used to it anyways, their weekly fix is not worth the lives of these people. I also like Togashi's current schedule because its similar in letting him work at his pace but its unforgivable that his health got bad enough in the first place.
is that manga actually good i read a couple times someone talking about it but not much more than that
Its unbelievable yeah, and he's 65 now and he's still going really strong because of that schedule
Sounds like my type but no cigar
The mega shonens with like 700 chapter continuous journeys were a symptom of the international anime and manga boom but younger authors have now seen the toll that kinda production has on said authors and the length of time they take to publish
They have other alternatives now
Ichi the witch can and might. The author already has a 400 ch manga
Nishi sensei
Kendrick Lamar
I wonder what the average corporation is like in Japan nowadays in regards to work-life balance. 'Cause we all know the stereotypes.
i still can’t fathom how you work on two weekly series at the same time while also staying healthy
Dolfius... nishi said she started Ichi because she felt like she was being to lazy....
scary
i'd say it's good. If you want to read more WSJ, it's one of the top 5 series serializing atm
Might be a silly thing to say as a One Piece fan but it'd be a lot cooler if authors that are actually so talented would produce more series at their own pace instead of tirelessly going at it on a single one for a thousand chapters
Chat if you were in a fantasy world would you rather be an elite swordsman, mage, or archer?
Mage
Its a shame that there may really not be another Oda series after One Piece
Same
nah fuck that
It's pretty decent
i mean the guy will be like 60
Swordsman
Im tryna demolish shit
Maybe
Nigga too violent
Swing my stick like the goat
A mage more violent cmon now
This chapter is depicting what will happen atop the red line
You can inject niggas with random poisons and diseases and shit
You can set someone on fire
Mage and use magic that lets me punch really really hard
"this"
RIP Katherine ohara 😔
Who is that
yep
Home alone mom
send me the 10
I dont think most series should have more than 3 seasons
she was my tv mom
I think Big Mom should've been the protagonist.
I can’t say the f word anymore
I was gonna curse you out
You onto something
And I need the plug that gave it to you
Im always onto sometimes
Well they don't have to be too short, but I'd love to see more 200 chapters-ish series from them atleast.
Big Mom had the most shounen protagonist potential and Oda fumbled
I wish we had a big mom spin off just about what the fuck she was doing as a teen
nah the baccano writer will do anything except finish baccano, he can stop writing shitty bleach ln
It’s called “Euphoria”
Or Shameless
Maybe Skins

