also-manga

[ashen perch]

Here you go Jesus btw

[steel stirrup]

Yamato's hair is my favorite thing about him

The side boob is nice too tho

[ashen perch]

Well I can't punish all of Twitter now can I

I'd love to but

I can't

[trim lily]

unless…

[brittle basin]

I started liking Yamato for the color scheme, I didn't pay them much attention until then. Good job, Oda.

[hot cairn]

Luna agenda

[digital spear]

Yeah this is for sure the worst thing Twitter ever did

[ashen perch]

Twitter is the source of this rumor, some people who really really are stupid who can't read Japanese for shit started it

[formal wagon]

THAT sense

[runic dock]

Soon

[prisma yacht]

Goodnight yall

[steel stirrup]

THAT man

[steel stirrup]

GN Fr0

[runic dock]

This is my Bible

[prisma yacht]

[digital spear]

Gn

[hot cairn]

Yessir

[runic dock]

I live by this post

[warm falcon]

gn

[formal wagon]

THAT um

oh THATs not...

[trim lily]

oh omusubi actually was in the concept art area

people just can’t read

[steel stirrup]

That 2nd Giant Sword

[ashen perch]

Yeah Dolf

[wanton sundial]

what if lodestar island is the sun and what if one piece is in the moon

[ashen perch]

It was literally written right there

[hot cairn]

thanks, check it out @cosmic hamlet

[ashen perch]

But people who can't read JP just saw the pictures...

[brittle basin]

so the story was different at this stage?

[trim lily]

yeah

[hot cairn]

are you a weevil fan?

[digital spear]

Its kinda funny tho how Oda just drew Omisubi randomly in there

[hot cairn]

the only weevil fan I know it’s Euge

[steel stirrup]

Oh shit was Oden gonna live???

[upbeat yarrow]

whats chekhov first giant sword

[runic dock]

I was after that post , because I have faith in what Oda said

[trim lily]

you can see the yamato concepts here https://mangadex.org/chapter/98cfb59d-7f06-4796-bada-f288df42d1f6/2

[formal wagon]

the one in wano

[glacial bear]

Weevil agenda starts today

[digital spear]

Earl has been way before Euge existed

[upbeat yarrow]

oh truee

[brittle basin]

i'm guessing in this version, Oden still dies but Yamato became a member alongside Shinobu, Kin, and the rest.

[steel stirrup]

Why you wait the VA dies

You fake

[cosmic hamlet]

Ohhh

[hot cairn]

fair

[ashen perch]

I think this is just about him becoming a Scabbard

[glacial bear]

I didn’t realize his true greatness until it was too late. I have to pay tribute & carry his name!

[steel stirrup]

Damn that Yamato would've been way older

[brittle basin]

Oda can't write this good.

[hot cairn]

ahh I didn’t know that

[brittle basin]

shoot good point actually. hmmm, you might be right then

[ashen perch]

I'm also a Weevil fan, I trust Oda

[ashen perch]

He wouldn't lie to me

[digital spear]

Maybe Yamato wouldve timejumped too

[brittle basin]

I'M NOT A WEEVIL FAN. UGLY PIECE OF SHIT.

[trim lily]

i don’t trust oda but i’m still a weevil fan

[hot cairn]

I don’t see the vision with Weevil

what role will he have in the story

[steel stirrup]

Oh nice

[trim lily]

if the next time i see weevil he looks handsome and slim then one piece is over

[digital spear]

Fight Blackbeard

[brittle basin]

Oda got Weevil captured to remove him from the story.

[formal wagon]

dont you worry about that

[ashen perch]

But Oda has a vision for Weevil, I'm willing to let him coook

[formal wagon]

doesn't concern you

[brittle basin]

there is no impel down 2

[fast pagoda]

Weevil is chill

[formal wagon]

you dont have a choice pal

[ashen perch]

Weevil is going to join Cross Guild

[steel stirrup]

I imagine that Kaidou wondering where his child went but not actually searching very hard

[brittle basin]

weevil is the opposite of chill

[glacial bear]

@fast pagoda are u here?

[fast pagoda]

With his sister yes

[wanton sundial]

he's going to be just loki but better and then he's going to join the straw hats replacing luffy

[digital spear]

You dont want to free Bon Clay and Doffy? Wow

[fast pagoda]

Yeap

[formal wagon]

steamy

[brittle basin]

i feel stuck between a rock and a hard place

[digital spear]

Hot

[formal wagon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/164971940648321024/1296735777085984778/picmix.com_12095862.gif

[hot cairn]

could be

[fast pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-stussy-one-piece-succubus-stussy-one-piece-vampire-stussy-one-piece-anime-one-piece-gif-13106308006122090703

[runic dock]

There’s a chance he won’t be like the mvp of something but it’s a subversion , but the very least he will be plot relevant and important one time somewhere

[ashen perch]

Well that's kinda his mother

[hot cairn]

I don’t know why Oda threw him in impel down

[ashen perch]

But yea, she'll join too

[glacial bear]

AWESOME! I’m gonna answer ur cross guild question rn

[hot cairn]

that’s an odd choice for a character yet to be explored

[digital spear]

Mailcocks is also a huge weevio fan he has a ton of pixmix of Weevil

[cosmic hamlet]

You didn't know the initial plot was different?

No time travel and oden doesn't die 20 years ago. He dies few months ago from current timeline by comitting seppuku

[steel stirrup]

Oh yea I forgot to tell you that im gonna stop reading spoilers from now on

[hot cairn]

the only characters I see joining cross guild are Moria and Perona

[fast pagoda]

Cool go for it!

[glacial bear]

• 1. Doflamingo 🦩 : I don’t see him being thrilled to be bossed around by anyone at all. At least in Cross Guild he’ll be able to bully Buggy around since he’s smart enough to know to let Buggy be the scapegoat and hearing the plan of a Utopia with people like Mihawk & Crocodile involved will make him happy to be able to go after the World Government since he hates them as well. Especially when his focus now seems to make the Celestial Dragons pay.
• 2. Gecko Moria 🦇 & Perona 👻 : They have nowhere else to go. Moria looks implied to be a Kozuki, so there’s a possibility he could read Poneglyphs since Cross Guild doesn’t currently have someone who can read Road Poneglyphs. Perona has depended on Mihawk for 2 years for a place to stay and will likely seek him out again for a place her & Moria can seek shelter in.
• 3. Eustass Kidd 🤖: He has lost everything. Will likely be saved & offered a spot on Cross Guild by Sir Crocodile upon hearing that Kidd is one of the 2 people responsible for Yonko Big Mom’s defeat. Kidd’s focus could be shifted towards revenge against Shanks. Which is a benefit to Cross Guild. Also with his Jiki Jiki no Mi, his magnetism devil fruit could activate the compass that leads to Captain John’s treasure that Buggy The Clown has been actively seeking since the pre-timeskip.
• 4. Edward Weevil 💪: I mean, realistically where else could he go. He hates Blackbeard just like Moria, so that’s another personal vendetta against a Yonko.

— 5) Miss Buckingham Stussy 👵: Wherever her son goes, she’ll follow. Plus with her inclusion, I think it’s safe to say a NEO Mads collaboration with Cross Guild is possible. Meaning we’ll get Dr Vegapunk’s old group back together with Judge Vinsmoke, Queen The Plague, & Caesar Clown.

• 6. Boa Hancock 🐍: In the same way Gloriosa left to sail the seas to chase after Gol D. Roger. I think Sir Crocodile, being the businessman that he is, can remind Boa that he & Buggy both were on Luffy’s side during Marineford and helped saved his life from Akainu. Allowing Luffy to escape with Law. And that they can help her find Luffy if she goes with them & helps them take down the World Government/Navy that tried to kill her beloved. Which would be a convincing enough reason. Also if the Croco theory about him being originally a woman is true, maybe that adds an extra layer of trust.
• 7. Wapol 🦛: Why not? Lol. Why not. If Vivi doesn’t get kidnapped & reunites with Luffy’s crew. I feel like we’ll also see Wapol at Laugh Tale & Cross Guild seems like a good fit for him. He can provide Wapol-metal, the strongest type of metal, for NEO Mads & Eustass Kidd, as well as provide valuable information about Mariejois just like Doflamingo. He’s a silly evil fella like Buggy & Mr 3, so he’s perfect for comedy gags imo.

[solid mantle]

justice for mr 2

[formal wagon]

why mailcocks

[digital spear]

SO GLUE

[ashen perch]

Weevil is in Impel Down so that Cross Guild can recruit him at the same time as Doflamingo

[hot cairn]

I’ll trust Oda

[digital spear]

COOK

[formal wagon]

like why

[digital spear]

SAYABUSA IS RIGHT

[ashen perch]

And Bon

[digital spear]

WITH EVERYTHING

LETS GOOOOOO

[glacial bear]

Ty ty Ik it’s a long read but I genuinely thought about this for days 😭

[storm anvil]

gang was waiting for this moment whole life ✌️

[ashen perch]

Wapol in Cross Guild isn't happening

[wanton sundial]

this wasn't even copy pasted, you were just really fast and typed everything just now

[fast pagoda]

Nah its alright, I get like that too

[steel stirrup]

My W2 just came

[ashen perch]

He'll join the Revolutionary army

[solid mantle]

why does this seem like a chat gpt answer

[ashen perch]

Wapol is being redeemed

[brittle basin]

Ah, then yeah I was completely unaware of this.

[steel stirrup]

The format seems AI-ish

[brittle basin]

and I will forget this again 4 minutes from now

[glacial bear]

THANK YOU YC 🫶

[cosmic hamlet]

@steel stirrup

[wanton sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/benny-benny-lego-movie-lego-movie-the-lego-movie-lego-gif-2708904522197395240

[cosmic hamlet]

Fair because that plot is ass

[digital spear]

Duality of man between Jesus and Sayabusa

[steel stirrup]

Oh shit

[fast pagoda]

Honestly I'm amazed you remembered that random question I asked a few days ago and gave me such an in depth answer

[glacial bear]

LMFAO

[hot cairn]

only Moria and Perona I see happening

[ashen perch]

Sayabusa forgot about Neo-Mads, not a cook

[brittle basin]

i'm curious how long it took Oda to correct it and if his editor or assistants were involved.

[ashen perch]

Oh wait its part of the stussy section nvm

[formal wagon]

the only characters i see joining cross guild are

[brittle basin]

I am curious if Oda has ever asked his assistants if a story idea was good or not. Or if it's illegal and he can only go through his editor.

[wanton sundial]

sayabusa how about don krieg and gin

[steel stirrup]

Seppuku definitely doesnt hit as hard as being boiled alive

[storm anvil]

Oda was cooking with neko my goat from day 1 🔥

[glacial bear]

The moment you asked that question I was typing it out in chat. But realized I was writing a super long paragraph so I just used my notes app and continued writing for later

[pseudo gulch]

Speedreading discord messages now??

Welcome to the club

[ashen perch]

I wasn't looking at the explanations yeah, just the names 😭

[brittle basin]

For as long as he was boiled alive, I wonder how often people forget it was a single bullet that actually did Oden in.

[cosmic hamlet]

I think this happens for almost all arcs, he never actually goes with what he initially plans. The story changes so he has to adapt and change according to new plans

He probably have to make lot of changes to other future things if he change plot in one arc

[glacial bear]

I would’ve included them but I think they’re part of Blackbeard’s Yonko crew now 😔

[steel stirrup]

Get yo shit together

[brittle basin]

I'm more curious then how much is week-to-week decision making vs long-term planning.

[ashen perch]

I'm old

[wanton sundial]

oh mann ..

[brittle basin]

ElderWise

[cosmic hamlet]

[solid mantle]

if you are old, then we are old together

[brittle basin]

Oda just really, really needs to do a longform interview asking all the hard hitting questions about how he tackled certain aspects of the story. In depth.

[cosmic hamlet]

I don't know, maybe he spends lot of time just to make these decisions

[brittle basin]

smh Oda just making this shit up as he goes.

[digital spear]

@glacial bear

[ashen perch]

I wouldn't say that the Oden change happened late though, we knew the timeline since Zou. This is from like Punk Hazard and earlier.

[glacial bear]

Great minds think alike! 🙌

[storm anvil]

this cooks never thought about it that way

[cosmic hamlet]

Yes, however its chain reaction. If he changes things in one arc he have to correct future arcs according to the new changes he did in current arc

[solid mantle]

don't we need three more people? also how's boa joining? maybe in an attempt to meet with Luffy, I could see that...

[ashen perch]

Wano's story has not really been indicated to have changed much from the initial plan, the core anyways. I mean things like BM were probably late additions for sure

But generally, its stayed consistent

[brittle basin]

He consistently made Wano long

[solid mantle]

Wano was hell

[cosmic hamlet]

I wonder when he decided to introduce time travel

[digital spear]

@glacial bear wait I did a really huge one here holy shit

[fast pagoda]

I wonder how long Oda has has an idea for a Wano arc

[ashen perch]

There's a hint to time travel during Zou, when Momo says he met Roger

[digital spear]

the 7 I listed there have all been warlords

Boa will be convinced by Gloriosa (she joined a similar group in the past)

[glacial bear]

I explained it in my essay lol. So my reasoning is that Sir Crocodile & Buggy were critical in saving Luffy’s life in Marineford & Mr 3 helped save both Ace & Luffy from Sengoku.

They can help her reunite with Luffy while also helping in their goal of taking down the World Government/Marines, the same one that tried to kill her beloved

[ashen perch]

He said its the arc he has wanted to draw for the longest of time

So I imagine it was a certain location since day one atleast

[cosmic hamlet]

Oh yeah

[glacial bear]

Oooo i LOVE IT. Each one is a titanic captain!

[fast pagoda]

I kinda wished that I didnt have to see the Donquixote Family again

[upbeat yarrow]

most people say since thriller bark but i feel he had ideas for wano before that

[fast pagoda]

But not a bad list

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/itstheenami/status/2016492686690378045/photo/1

dipan ia for awhile (@itstheenami)

hello👋🏼

X · Jan 28, 2026, 12:44 PM

[fast pagoda]

I still dont see Hancock joining. I get the reasoning, Sayabusa had a good explanation but eeehhhh

[ashen perch]

Some of those early interviews from Oda are fascinating to me because its clear that he had so many ideas from like day one really, but he wasn't quite committed to them just yet

[fast pagoda]

I cant see her joining with a man not named Luffy

[hot cairn]

I wonder since when did he had Gear 5 in mind then. Nika was such a late addition to Wano

[cosmic hamlet]

I don't like how Mr 3 is under Mr 1

[ashen perch]

Even As far back as 2002, he was already saying "If I draw everything that I have in mind for the story, it'd take me 20 years to finish the story"

[cosmic hamlet]

Yayyyyy, sabaku posting fire nami arts 🔥

[hot cairn]

well… he wasn’t wrong lol

[solid mantle]

bro's pushing for 30

[hot cairn]

we’ll get to 30

[solid mantle]

nah

[ashen perch]

He said " a long time"

[digital spear]

Idk ask Oda if theyre gonna go along Doffy when he gets freed cause he definitely will

At least Senor Pink will because he will meet Franky

[brittle basin]

God. Fucking. Dammit.

[ashen perch]

Well keep in mind, this is very early on so Pre Supernovas

[fast pagoda]

I feel like posting my chart again

[digital spear]

This is how numbers work

[ashen perch]

Supernovas probably added a decade to the series

[solid mantle]

true that

[hot cairn]

Gear 5 conceptually probably yes but the Nika stuff feels like a late addition

[ashen perch]

He said the Warlords were the biggest reason why the series has been so long but I imagine the supernova are #2 there

[hot cairn]

whats this

[fast pagoda]

My final war prediction thingy

[ashen perch]

I think its just too integral to the series and its lore to be a late addition

[cosmic hamlet]

He is under buggy now

[ashen perch]

Joyboy is literally the man who left One Piece at Laugh Tale, and the void century is all going to connect even further back to Nika

[hot cairn]

I wonder why he waited so long for the Nika name drop then

[ashen perch]

I mean Sun God was mentioned in Elbaf and Skypiea

[hot cairn]

eh

[cosmic hamlet]

Lily definitely played a role in creating laughtale, not contents but the concept of people finding the island

[ashen perch]

I can see that yea, Road Poneglyphs were also spread by her for sure

[digital spear]

Officially theyre all but Mr. 1 and 3 are both under Croc, I just sorted them like that so we have a good oversight of how the members are connected to each other and 1 and 3 were in baroques

[glacial bear]

And Mr 3 seems more loyal to Croc than Buggy

[ashen perch]

I think Oda just has a timing with these things, we don't need to know until we need to know

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-cross-guild-egghead-galdino-galdino-one-piece-gif-7392918145727141907

[cosmic hamlet]

I was referring to how you created another sub below mr 1

[ashen perch]

He keeps a lot of things hidden from us for a long time, Xebec was literally confirmed to be one of those things

[hot cairn]

Xebec might be a late addition too but yeah you have a point

[ashen perch]

Well Xebec/Rocks is the lurking legend

[digital spear]

Oh I dont know why discord did that, it happened with Alvida, Perona, Marigold, Stussy and Trebol too

[cosmic hamlet]

Why is stussy in cross guild 😭

[digital spear]

Because Weevil is

[cosmic hamlet]

You mean original stussy?

[hot cairn]

that doesnt make sense

[digital spear]

Miss Buckingham Stussy

[digital spear]

Yes

[cosmic hamlet]

Ah fair

[hot cairn]

but also that lurking legend thing was late

[ashen perch]

!legend

[tropic nova]

The lurking legend is the tale of the Rocks Pirate that was kept hidden from the readers for 900+ chapters, connected to Whitebeard like author Eiichiro Oda himself said, while the greatest enemy that the Strawhats face so far is the Big Mom-Kaido Alliance.

[hot cairn]

ah

[upbeat yarrow]

what would you guys consider a late addition? like what would be the starting point to be a late addition character/plot?

[cosmic hamlet]

😭

[ashen perch]

The phrasing of that statement is important, lurking referred to it being HIDDEN from the readers

[solid mantle]

If Bon Clay isn't a part of the rev army by the end of the series I'll bald oda

live on stream

[hot cairn]

I was thinking it didnt make any sense because oda said the strawhats were going to fight it

[solid mantle]

irl

[hot cairn]

anything from Wano onwards imo

the holy knights are a late addition

[cosmic hamlet]

When did you guys realised there is someone above gorosei

[hot cairn]

that's funny that there's a command for this lol

[digital spear]

Im surprised you didnt already

[wanton sundial]

like a few hours ago

[digital spear]

Damn

Holy shit my discord is fucked up

[cosmic hamlet]

🐌

[digital spear]

Since yesterday

[ashen perch]

It was annoying to deal with

So we had to lol

[cosmic hamlet]

Explain because I'm also facing some. Wanna check if its the same

[brittle basin]

When Imu sat the throne.

[hot cairn]

that didnt cross my mind during my first binge reading of OP so I was shocked to see Imu when he appeared

[brittle basin]

wait why did I answer that question, that's the only answer

[ashen perch]

Anything??

[cosmic hamlet]

Wasn't it referred in dressrosa that there is someone above gorosei?

[solid mantle]

what happened

[brittle basin]

you mean Doffy?

[prisma idol]

When imu was shown

[brittle basin]

like he said something?

you'll have to show me the panel.

[hot cairn]

anyhting new yeah like the holy knights

[cosmic hamlet]

No, akainu

[wanton sundial]

when akainu was shown

[brittle basin]

ok then yeah i'll need the panel

[cosmic hamlet]

So you all missed when akainu said it?

[digital spear]

I sent those messages repliying to Nash but they sent way later without reply

[ashen perch]

Eh, I do think Oda had the idea of HKs in mind before Wano, I mean we literally saw Shamrock before Wano

[digital spear]

Im surprised you didnt already

[digital spear]

Damn

Like this

[brittle basin]

Well, I missed that one.

[hot cairn]

I was confused by that but I didnt pay it any attention, that's what happenes when you dont read the story weekly lol

[rich hornet]

Did we? Pretty sure it was Shanks at reverie

[cosmic hamlet]

When akainu asks gorosei about the whole fake doffy demotion, it was mentioned that the decision was from someone higher than gorosei

[ashen perch]

This was interpreted as a conversation between Cipher Pol and Akainu back then, I remember

[digital spear]

Wakainu casually exposing Imu

[hot cairn]

I still think it was Shanks

[solid mantle]

yeah, I'm going straight to his house

[ashen perch]

Well maybe

Maybe not

[hot cairn]

that doesnt make sense tho

[muted hedge]

i hope that Akainu actually pulls through with his own justice and cuts the strings with the Celestial Dragons

[solid mantle]

I think I even vegapunked him lol

[prisma idol]

You see I watched the anime when catching up and then read the Manga later, this scene passes so quickly that you dont think twice about what Akainu said

[digital spear]

I thought it just meant the celestial dragons and the Gorosei arent CDs

[muted hedge]

we already saw him fume when he was fighting Kuma

[glacial bear]

Boss brought pizza and I just finished eating Panda Express

[muted hedge]

it's clear that he doesn't want to be ordered around by the whelps of Marijoa

[cosmic hamlet]

If it was cipher pol there is no reason for akainu to say this because he would know there is someone above cp0 obviously

[hot cairn]

but anyways arsal, anything new from Wano onwards can be considered "late" imo

[ashen perch]

Yea it doesn't, it makes sense to have been about Imu now but we didn't think of that back then

[hot cairn]

fair enough

[cosmic hamlet]

Yep, happens to me alot tbh. When i said that people said its my wifi fault 😭

[ashen perch]

We thought he was just surprised that the Gorosei were the ones who ordered CP0 to get involved

[ashen perch]

I disagree

[muted hedge]

is a Marine civil war possible?

[cosmic hamlet]

Yeah, i actually watched anime

[hot cairn]

the lurking legend is obviously Imu, I dont get why there's still people thinking Oda hasnt answered that

[tranquil blade]

What

[cosmic hamlet]

You speed reading akainu panels?

[muted hedge]

it was the alliance between Kaido and Big Mom

[tranquil blade]

lurking legend was the rocks pirates was it not?

[prisma idol]

Sorry I only care about relevant characters

[ashen perch]

I think of Oda's own words when the final saga started, he specifically mentions that he's going to reveal all the secrets of the world that he has been keeping hidden from us. I think all that we have seen in the final saga has simply just been purposefully hidden for a long time.

[tranquil blade]

because Kaido and Big Mom allying was seen as like a return of the Rocks pirates

[cosmic hamlet]

This is a fair take, it was revealed during wano that gorosei are cds right?

[muted hedge]

speaking of which a Marine civil war could be the cause why Mairjoa is in a sea of fire maybe

[ashen perch]

Whether that's this Davy Jones thing or the Demonic Celestials, HKs etc

[muted hedge]

if the Marines are revolting against the higher ups

[ashen perch]

I think to Oda, this was just a matter of timing

Its being revealed now because its the final saga, not because he's literally making it up now

[hot cairn]

!legend

[tropic nova]

The lurking legend is the tale of the Rocks Pirate that was kept hidden from the readers for 900+ chapters, connected to Whitebeard like author Eiichiro Oda himself said, while the greatest enemy that the Strawhats face so far is the Big Mom-Kaido Alliance.

[cosmic hamlet]

Are you saying akainu is irrelevant?

[rich hornet]

Always has been

[hot cairn]

Idk I know Oda is master planner and stuff but something he just wings it lol, we know because of all those story decisions he made on the fly like the warlords, vivi etc

[ashen perch]

Oda makes a cheeky little reference to it too, when Akainu and Fujitora are talking about the return of Rocks, he says "don't speak of it like its a legend"

[brittle basin]

And he's very much doing that, slowly drip feeding it as Egghead and Elbaf moved along. Egghead was the beginning of the final saga for me.

[hot cairn]

there's stuff he has to be making up now tho

[prisma idol]

I am

[hot cairn]

Loki clearly wasnt like planned to be like this lol

considering his sillhoutte in WCI

[ashen perch]

The things he has admitted to yeah, but the things that he hasnt? I have zero reason to believe its new.

[ashen perch]

I can agree with that yeah

[muted hedge]

i wonder when Loki was changed

[wanton sundial]

all writers wing it

[ashen perch]

Loki definitely has been changed, but its HKs that I disagree on

[tranquil blade]

Loki was probably changed some time around Wano

[muted hedge]

Loki probably wasn't even meant to be such an important figure in Elbaph at first

[ashen perch]

This is Oda, ofc he had a big villain group in mind for the WG outside of the Gorosei

[hot cairn]

well we wont know what things he has winged about the final saga until it's over anyway

[rich hornet]

Is this about the existence of Holy Knights? We’ve got like no evidence of them before final saga. It could easily have been a recent addition

[ashen perch]

Every single villain has their main villain group

[hot cairn]

yeah that's what I'm saying

[hot cairn]

idk, there was absolutely no mention of it before post wano

[ashen perch]

With how integral this all is to Shanks's story, I think they definitely always existed

[hot cairn]

that's what I'm saying

[ashen perch]

There's just been no reason to mention them

[rose rune]

oda got a reason when he started to run out of enemies

[ashen perch]

There's no mention of anything until the time is right, that's kind of how things work

[muted hedge]

do you all think we'll get an explanation to what the God Knights have been doing? or will it just be oh well they spend most of their times up above and tend to not spend time on the things below

[hot cairn]

that's not true, not a single tease about it during the reverie or during fisher tiger's escape

[muted hedge]

since we practically already knot that

[hot cairn]

the reverie not having a single holy knight makes me think they were a late addition because Oda was running out of enemies to fight

[rich hornet]

Oda is a fiend for hinting at scary strong guys with ominous silhouettes. The lack of a emperor-esque hype panel for them leads me to think he just came up with them

[muted hedge]

i think that he had Shamrock planned for a lot longer than the rest of the knights

[hot cairn]

think it's just the "they never go down" excuse

[wanton sundial]

probably fucking around because really pirates are integral to even imu for the world government to actually control the world through fear and the "peacekeeping" of the marines

[muted hedge]

but the group as a whole was probably planned a decent time back

[ashen perch]

The only thing that we knew about Fisher Tiger's escape was a brief summary of what people thought he had done, we never got a flashback to it. Also again, I think we saw Shamrock during Reverie lol

[hot cairn]

I dont think that was Shamrock, makes no sense

[fallen meteor]

i think its still Zoro by the reasons you pointed out. Sanji can live a regular life but Zoro would die at some point

[rich hornet]

Makes less sense, at least

[ashen perch]

He did this in the final saga, because the time is right

[hot cairn]

why is he hiding under a cloak lol

[hot cairn]

yeah he did it as soon as he had them in mind lol

[ashen perch]

There wasn't a point to hint at these scary strong guys before they were even doing anything

[muted hedge]

probably just to keep us guessing

[ashen perch]

They had 0 role to play in the main story, they weren't going to be threats to the protagonists yet

They weren't even mobilizing yet

[tranquil blade]

because Oda likes being mysterious

[rich hornet]

The fact that they weren’t doing anything is also glaring. You have to make up reasons they weren’t involved in the story until now

[tranquil blade]

Well they were doing stuff it was just not related to the strawhats

[ashen perch]

It really just comes down to Oda being mysterious

[rich hornet]

We see things moving on a global scale also, not just SH

[ashen perch]

Yeah they've been involved in stuff, just not in the present time until recently

[muted hedge]

i wonder if Shamrock had something to do with stopping Kaido from going to Marineford

though i doubt it

[tranquil blade]

now idk if the whole "unkillable unless it's acoc" thing was planned as far ahead, but I think he had an idea for them probably at least since early timeskip

[hot cairn]

the elders literally tell him "what is a man of your status doing here" that's 100% not Shamrock

[ashen perch]

Yeah the dialogue is vague and mysterious

[hot cairn]

that was absolutely not planned ahead either lol

everything about the HK's screams "I made it up recently"

I'm not saying that's bad tho

[ashen perch]

He's the captain of the HKs, he's not supposed to be at this summit, its not part of his role to be involved in a Reverie

[hot cairn]

we needed a final group of villains

[ashen perch]

It can mean anything like that

[muted hedge]

they didn't think Garling was authorized to be there either, until they heard him getting a promotion

[hot cairn]

but it was def a late addition

[rich hornet]

The Gorosei meant “why are you trying to get involved in the story this early”

[dark nymph]

if I hit legs i'm fucking finished

[ashen perch]

Yeah

[tranquil blade]

Why does his body resemble an upside down bowling pin

[muted hedge]

no idea, lol

[ashen perch]

There's nothing really that goes strongly against it being Shamrock

[dark nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-d-garp-garp-the-fist-garp-the-hero-of-the-marines-garp-chujou-one-piece-garp-gif-3418941681348053225

[ashen perch]

The whole idea is that it can still be either of them

[hot cairn]

my point still stands, the holy knight were def not thought of from the beginning

[cosmic hamlet]

Official doesn't say this.

They said he doesn't have anything to do with politics which actually proves more that he is shamrock

[tranquil blade]

Well I definitely dont think they were planned chapter 1 or anything

[dark nymph]

doesn't everyone know that?

same with G5, shanks lore, etc

Imu

[cosmic hamlet]

But tbh, i also agree that gorosei wouldn't treat a holy knight like that

[hot cairn]

"why would you come all this way" doesnt make sense if it's shamrock lol they live in the same place

[ashen perch]

They treated Garling the dame way

[barren token]

Ummm it actually has to be shanks because he only has a goatee while shamrock has a fuller beard

[hot cairn]

arsal disagreed

[ashen perch]

They don't though Jesus, he lives in Shangora

[cosmic hamlet]

I agree on that

[hot cairn]

that's still marijois

[tranquil blade]

They were actually more disrespectful to Garling funnily enough

[rich hornet]

Thats cuz they knew garling is trouble for them

[cosmic hamlet]

Define beginning, chapter 1? Definitely not

[hot cairn]

I'm of the opinion that Oda made them up during Wano

[prisma idol]

Garling was a high ranking lady in Britain?

[muted hedge]

their interaction with Garling just proves that the gorosei doesn't associate themselves with the God Knights normally

it wouldn't surprise me if Imu is the only one who orders the God Knights anyway

[tranquil blade]

I guess Shamrock scheduled a meeting or something ahead of time and Garling did a walk-in, I guess that could explain the difference

[cosmic hamlet]

I think he made that decision somewhere during the whole taking down kaido plan

Its just a speculation but i think he took a big leap in plot changes when he introduced kaido

[ashen perch]

Yea but still not Pangaea Castle, its different parts of what is the world's largest continent lol

[brittle basin]

The secret Figarland triplet will have the Fred Durst facial hair.

[tranquil blade]

They seem to largely operate as separate forces

[muted hedge]

yeah

[cosmic hamlet]

Introduced kaido as in, when he fall from sky

[hot cairn]

idk, nothing screams to me that it's shamrock

we'll see

[muted hedge]

maybe that's one of the main reasons for why the gorosei didn't call upon the God Knights on Egghead as well

[prisma idol]

If we are talking Shandora its in the realm of the gods no? The place where all the CDs actually live

[ashen perch]

Shuncs, the uncle of Shanks and Shamrock

[barren token]

Arsal counter argument to the facial hair allegations?

[prisma idol]

Different sides of the map

[hot cairn]

yeah that works too he just def didnt have them from the beginning, they would've been introduced earlier

[cosmic hamlet]

What is the name of the island which has gold in sky piea?

[barren token]

Oh you have none?

[rich hornet]

They were all involved for Harald

[hot cairn]

again, I'm not saying that's bad

[muted hedge]

yes, under direct orders by Imu

[prisma idol]

Shandora. I said the name wrong lmfao

[muted hedge]

it's not like the gorosei have ordered any God Knight as far as i am aware

it seems like Imu is the one doing that

[cosmic hamlet]

What is the name where cds live?

[tranquil blade]

The facial hair is a little inconsistent tbf, I'm almost certain Shanks has been drawn not like that at least once

[rich hornet]

It’s hard to tell, being they were such a recent addition lol

[muted hedge]

Shangara

[prisma idol]

The domain of the gods, where the HK temple Shangara is

[cosmic hamlet]

Oh its shangara, d is replaced by g. Took me time to realise 😭

[brittle basin]

Shucks, cousin to Gawrsh Figarland.

[prisma idol]

I had gotten the name wrong

[barren token]

He hasn't.

[ashen perch]

The facial hair thing doesn't really matter cause Oda's been inconsistent with facial hair yeah

[cosmic hamlet]

Even i was confused when arsal said, g completely sliped my eyes

[barren token]

Ok then post a panel with shanks with a fuller beard or shamrock with a goatee

[ashen perch]

Oh yea its Shangara, not Shangora

[runic dock]

I’m sure they could since they rank above them ?

[runic dock]

There’s the G

[hot cairn]

cunk might be cooking

[muted hedge]

logically yeah, though i could also see Imu being the only one who orders them given they're god's knights

[steel stirrup]

"Im you but stronger"

[hot cairn]

shamrock has a full beard?

[ashen perch]

Kinda

Idk why its cropped this way

[muted hedge]

very identical

Shamrock has a bit more stubble, though it's very slight

[cosmic hamlet]

Shamrock recently dyed his hair

[barren token]

Fuller, the stubble goes to the sides of his face instead of the goatee shanks has

[ashen perch]

Like this

[cosmic hamlet]

That is shamrock acting as shanks to deceive pirates

[grand flower]

You can’t boil down being a damsel in distress merely to “the character was a woman and there was a point where they needed help.” Doing so makes the trope meaningless and makes Luffy ome as well

If you acknowledge all the other context that’s needed, you can’t call Shakky one becausw that context doesnt apply to her

[cosmic hamlet]

Irrespective of all this, i think the plot will be interesting if its shanks and not shamrock

[grand flower]

Either way, there’s no valid argument behind the take that Shakky was a damsel in distress

[tranquil blade]

Does Shamrock have it here?

[graceful belfry]

This is the only reason I’ve ever needed

[tranquil blade]

It could be either one really

[cosmic hamlet]

Yeah why would shamrock want to talk about a certain pirate

[muted hedge]

definitely has it here

[ashen perch]

Yea he doesn't

[tranquil blade]

I wouldnt say Shanks talking to the gorosei is deconfirmed but idk if this stubble thing is gonna be what convinces me it cant be shamrock

[cosmic hamlet]

I love how he has a typical young master hair style

[muted hedge]

at the end of the day i am indifferent to who is talking with the gorosei
both options are interesting

[brittle basin]

I congratulate Oda on anthropomorphizing the word douche via Shamrock's visuals.

[muted hedge]

i don't think he looks like a douche

[brittle basin]

I do.

[cosmic hamlet]

Typical noble young master douche

[muted hedge]

i think of Kuro when i think of douche, lol

[cosmic hamlet]

He doesn't look like a douche

Have you ever seen a douche

[muted hedge]

i think he does

[cosmic hamlet]

Kuro is more like cunning

Douche actively shows his attitude

[tranquil blade]

He kinda looks like a more racist Shanks

Which well

[brittle basin]

Kuro is secretly a bastard. He looks like a Butler of a high end mansion, and talks like one.

[tranquil blade]

That is kinda what he is

[brittle basin]

Goda

bro captured racism with a drawing

[cosmic hamlet]

Shamrock thinks that his hair color is superior to shanks

[ashen perch]

Has Shamrock been racist yet

oh I guess he was kinda to Loki

[brittle basin]

his existence is racist

[tranquil blade]

I think the main distinction I see with Shamrock is his eyebrows, he looks constantly pissed off

[cosmic hamlet]

How?

[ashen perch]

didnt he call him an insect

[brittle basin]

i'm pretty sure you cannot be a GK without being a very hateful bastard

[muted hedge]

i don't think so

[tranquil blade]

Gunko did

[cosmic hamlet]

Oh you mean, typical cd behaviour racism on general people?

[brittle basin]

I'm sure the vast majority of people in Marijoa are racist.

[cosmic hamlet]

I have used typical too many times in last 5 mins, i should stop

[ashen perch]

typical cyg

[muted hedge]

Shamrock reigned Gunko in most of the time, like when he asked Loki if they were to spare his friend he'd join them.

Gunko didn't want Shamrock to talk about his sibling, Shamrock did so quite openly surprisingly

[graceful belfry]

It’s metaphorical, but something about calling one of the largest men on their planet an insect is sweetly ironic

[cosmic hamlet]

We have to find who is not racist among the group

[brittle basin]

Doffy's father?

[ornate tartan]

shamrock is innocent

[craggy vapor]

Shamrock’s scarf has the same color as Gunko’s hair

[cosmic hamlet]

I'm curious, doesn't your name contradicts your other beliefs?

[ashen perch]

wdym

[tranquil blade]

and Gunko's scar is almost the same color as Shamrock's hair

Just a bit too pink

[cosmic hamlet]

You believe elbaf doesn't end soon, by that logic you have to wait for next year for usopp to shine (if he shines that is)

[muted hedge]

he called them useless people

[craggy vapor]

Gunko’s left eye has Shamrock’s hair color

[muted hedge]

but that's the worst he said, if i remember correctly

him saying that Loki if he was to survive should seek him out and try to kill him also shows that Shamrock isn't as arrogant and more humble than the rest of the God Knights

[ashen perch]

I dont think so, he's going to shine this year too, and then the next, and the next, and the next, you get the idea

[muted hedge]

Oda is making very clear distinctions between him and the others in my opinion

[cosmic hamlet]

Dressrosa was more than 10 years ago which is when he last shined

[craggy vapor]

whenever I see this panel I see this. Internet has corrupted me.

[ashen perch]

when did you start watching

[graceful belfry]

Lmfao

[cosmic hamlet]

One piece? 2014-15 i think

[tranquil blade]

[muted hedge]

can't wait for this to be officialy colored

[ashen perch]

because you cannot be talking about how many years its been if you werent actually there 10 years ago, I am tired of new readers doing this bit

well its fine then

[graceful belfry]

Yes they can

[grand flower]

He shined in Wano

[ashen perch]

they cant because they talk about it like they have been waiting that long

[cosmic hamlet]

No, i watched it when i was in 2nd year of my college as my friends recommended it to me.

Which is 2014-15

[ashen perch]

they havent, I have, and I am still waiting with more patience than them

[ashen perch]

yeah its fine then

[cosmic hamlet]

When i caught up with anime, it was 2 episodes before luffy defeated doffy

[grand flower]

The 10 years thing is a pretty corny argument

[graceful belfry]

They can’t act like they’ve been waiting that long, you’re right. Stating an objective fact is different. Not like I assign myself to the belief that Usopp hasn’t done good stuff since Dressrosa, though

[grand flower]

As if there wasn’t ten years of other stories happening lol

[craggy vapor]

i want doffy to return. He is wasted being Magllan’s coffee date

[grand flower]

I’m cool waiting for Usopp’s story cause OP is filled with cool characters having cool stories

[graceful belfry]

Well put, Sharon

[ashen perch]

they arent actually doing it merely to state a fact though is the thing, I wouldnt have an issue if it was just that

[cosmic hamlet]

If doffy didn't return it means its not that deep yet. He knows the secrets of mariejois so we have to go more deep in the story for him to appear

[cosmic hamlet]

When did you started one piece arsal?

[ashen perch]

2014 as well

[cosmic hamlet]

Oh nice

[ashen perch]

well technically I first watched it way earlier

but it was like an episode or two, then caught up in 2014

[cosmic hamlet]

You dropped it?

[ashen perch]

nah, it was just on the TV lol

I didnt commit to watching it

[cosmic hamlet]

Who recommended it to you?

[craggy vapor]

I have a theory that because Impel Down is below the sea, it does somethinh to devil fruit users when they are there for a prolonged time. Like, slowly making them stronger

[grand flower]

I think they get stronger cause of the prison labor

[cosmic hamlet]

Crocodile power up

[grand flower]

We saw Daz Bones doing manual labor

[cosmic hamlet]

This actually makes sense

[grand flower]

You can probably also just work out in your cell, not much to do in prison

[muted hedge]

sadly Doflamingo is in a lot of chains

[cosmic hamlet]

Its also because they do it with sea prison stone so their physical stamina itself will increase

[grand flower]

In a cell by himself too

[grand flower]

Yeah true

[ashen perch]

I wouldnt say I really was recommended the show, cause I just saw it on TV and picked it back up properly later lol

[graceful belfry]

I miss my goat 🦩

[craggy vapor]

what labor is there to do?

[cosmic hamlet]

Fair enough, for me lot of my friends recommended it

[grand flower]

The first person who recommended OP to me tried to get me to read it by saying there was boobs

[muted hedge]

lol

[grand flower]

We saw Daz Bones turning some big wheel

[cosmic hamlet]

Is that the reason you read it? 😭

[grand flower]

At first

[ashen perch]

I guess what directly lead to me watching it in full was DBZ lol, the movie had just come out back in like 2013 and thats when I heard of it again

[grand flower]

But I was like 8

[cosmic hamlet]

Wtf

[grand flower]

I picked it back up when I was a freshman in high school

[ashen perch]

I saw that there was a One Piece Film (Z) that had also come out recently around the same time

[muted hedge]

rest in peace

[graceful belfry]

Rest in peace 💔

[cosmic hamlet]

Couple more

He voiced

[ashen perch]

Majin Buu famously

[cosmic hamlet]

I'm talking in one piece

[royal orchid]

rest in peace 🙏

[ashen perch]

Weevil is likely inspired by him but I wont get into that

oh yeah in One Piece too

[cosmic hamlet]

No more genzo voice

[royal orchid]

he was also pappag and genzo

[cosmic hamlet]

Thats a lot

[craggy vapor]

nooooo 😭

[cosmic hamlet]

They practice so many different voices i wonder if they sometimes forgets their original voice

[cosmic hamlet]

So you watched movie first?

[ashen perch]

nah

I just heard about it, then watched from the first episode till I got there

[royal orchid]

also the server is almost 10 years old now?

https://tenor.com/view/kiritwt-gif-23073153

[cosmic hamlet]

Rokaya said they are going to give free nitro to all active users

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/back-pain-old-man-gif-9142855911073346397

[ashen perch]

no

[royal orchid]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/818948004622499849/1462547313720299571/twitter_2012721609468268736.gif

[muted hedge]

i've got 2 weeks i can redeem, but i'm unsure

[cosmic hamlet]

Arsal also confirmed

[ashen perch]

dude

this is why being sick is bad, I am too slow right now

[royal orchid]

slow mods? time to post other series spoilers

[ashen perch]

I'd have nuked that message before you could even see it

[cosmic hamlet]

I'm just faster

[ashen perch]

and I cant type for shit fuck my stupid life

[royal orchid]

are you on mobile?

[ashen perch]

yeah

[muted hedge]

that's pain

i hate mobile

[royal orchid]

learn to drag write for real 🗣️

[muted hedge]

what the hell is drag write

[cosmic hamlet]

I always use discord on mobile

[cosmic hamlet]

Its called swipe and it sometimes sucks

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/witch-montypython-holygrail-shesawitch-gif-18421113243521844256

[muted hedge]

looks unpredictable

[ashen perch]

I do use swipe write sometimes but its not super accurate

[royal orchid]

Diagnosis:

skill issue

[cosmic hamlet]

Especially if there are 2 same letters back to back

[royal orchid]

but swiping is moving the whole screen smh

[cosmic hamlet]

They gave it a name so use it, don't question it

You gonna ask why its called building if its already built?

[royal orchid]

it shows you similar words if you didn't get it 100% but mostly it's just a nice way to write without needing to just click all day

[muted hedge]

interesting i'll try it someday

[storm anvil]

good question

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/cadaver-fancy-ghoul-mmm-gif-818813642279335214

[cosmic hamlet]

Its actually super fast once you get used to it

[royal orchid]

an edifice.

hmmmmmmm

[storm anvil]

a casket

hmmmmm

[royal orchid]

a cadaver

hmmmmm

[storm anvil]

a ghoul

hmmmmmmm

[cold steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/party-pooper-dragon-ball-z-abridged-tfs-super-kami-guru-gif-6916187771599882595

[fallen meteor]

An hemomancer

Hmmm

[vale heath]

Blood logia

[spice cairn]

Blood logia

Loki is a hemogoblin

Gobli gobli no mi: Mythical hemorrhage model

[muted hedge]

a bone paramecia would be cool

[rapid ridge]

Brook

[muted hedge]

he is more of a bone zoan

[rose rune]

bladder paramecia

only to be upstaged by piss logia a few arcs later

oda really hates us

[brittle basin]

Kidney Stone logia

[rich hornet]

More devastating than magu magu

[scenic dirge]

I’m the best wingman

[digital spear]

HUH

Erm what was the image ... just curious

[digital spear]

Holy

This is who I strive to be

[rose rune]

you have my seal of approval

[brittle basin]

Should I gamble with the clickbait title (I don't know who this is)?

[rose rune]

that's Shane D.

don't ask me who that is cause I don't really know

[brittle basin]

well in the first 2 minutes, it seems genuine and this video will be super critical.

dammit, he solved it!

[gloomy tree]

https://x.com/Dexerto/status/2016574352318218344

Dexerto (@Dexerto)

Anime and manga piracy reportedly cost Japan $38 billion in 2025, up from $13 billion in 2022

X · Jan 28, 2026, 6:09 PM

[brittle basin]

I'm sure the overall situation is more complex. One famous factor is some people who pirate were always gonna pirate, regardless of how easily available and cheap they made the product. But then you have me, who used to pay for Viz and then stopped 'cause I think it's a shitty product, but I also buy volumes physically.

[dark nymph]

i dont wanna give crunchyroll money

[brittle basin]

I think you can watch some Crunchyroll for free, right?

but with ads?

that's what I do since I so rarely watch new shows anyways

[rose rune]

I dunno, it locks some stuff if I remember correctly

[dark nymph]

their catalogue is region locked asf

[brittle basin]

oh i had no idea

[rose rune]

I know I can't watch one piece there at least

[brittle basin]

oh weird wtf

[rose rune]

I mean, I could if I bought a subscription

but I don't want one

I don't really watch a lot of anime nowadays

[brittle basin]

let's just sit down and pretend anime in our days was better anyways

[hot cairn]

complaining about this is pointless ngl

[rose rune]

https://open.spotify.com/track/4kAvjI5GpVsO7xNCNQPiKT?si=075e124772c742ad

[hot cairn]

good thing that he dropped it

[brittle basin]

but he solved it! I...I can't consume One Piece anymore.

[torn kite]

Random question but is zoro’s conquerors even strong enough to fight the holy knights

[ornate tartan]

38 billion lost to piracy in 2025

wow

[digital spear]

Imagine dropping on like the last arc where this will be the case

[brittle basin]

probably. but if not, he's gonna have to get it strong enough in the middle of the fights, because they're all gonna be heading up to where they are soon

[trim lily]

i read this like a casualty count at first

[digital spear]

If piracy costs this much why do they keep buying it?

[pseudo gulch]

A little bird told me Socrates was banned???

He glazed too close to the sun 😔

[brittle basin]

he was

[ornate tartan]

while ago

[brittle basin]

he was banned for loving Loki too much

[pseudo gulch]

Does that mean we all don't love our favorite characters enough

Since we're all still here

[brittle basin]

yes

[digital spear]

Yes, we're all frauds

[brittle basin]

fake fans the lot of us

[rose rune]

I really should glaze robin more

https://tenor.com/view/panzer-dragoon-saga-ne-rai-azel-atolm-panzer-dragoon-gif-25821397

[digital spear]

Sarie Nantokanette is the best character in One Piece

[torn kite]

Another question if you cut off a holy knights head will their head grow a new body or will their body grow a new head

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/robin-batman-forever-batman-gif-7473086

[rose rune]

ask gunko

[rose rune]

the only robin

[digital spear]

Wow it seems like the liveaction did the scene of Robin appearing on the Going Merry pretty well

[torn kite]

I would but she’s like possessed and stuff

[rose rune]

she lost her entire upper body

or do you mean will the old body part lie there while a new one grows

[torn kite]

Yes, that’s what I mean

[brittle basin]

lmfao, ok i gotta give this YouTuber credit. He said "One Piece doesn't just have slow pacing, it has hostile pacing." That's pretty fucking funny.

[rose rune]

like if you decapitate sommers a lot, will there be lots of sommers heads

[torn kite]

Yeah

[rose rune]

maybe

[digital spear]

Loool

[inner agate]

if ur not banned yet do u really love ur fav character enough

[dark nymph]

its hard to glaze Robin, you fight for your life in this chat just to acknowledge that she did something significant vs Summers

[steel stirrup]

Type beat

[rose rune]

yeah I mean. if fights were my primary interest I would never have been a robin fan

[steel stirrup]

Her and Usopp did some crazy shit but the regen made it pointless

[muted hedge]

Robin outsmarted Sommers

tricked him

left him hanging, literally

[steel stirrup]

No regen she would've beat him with zero haki or FMK

[muted hedge]

depends, maybe Sommers would've locked in if he couldn't count on his regeneration

it's clear that he wasn't taking them seriously

[steel stirrup]

Perhaps

But I hear that all the time

"Without regen they wouldn't get surprised as much"

[rose rune]

yeah, I feel like the god's knights are kinda careless because they can

[steel stirrup]

And thats true

But still

The carelessness is kinda trash imo

[muted hedge]

suits him, lol

[steel stirrup]

But I understand the complacency

I just don't like it

[muted hedge]

that's fine

[rose rune]

yeah, but it makes sense when you consider that they rarely have to consider defense

[muted hedge]

it's a bit of a crux at the end of the day

[rose rune]

regen is the new logia

[muted hedge]

essentialy yeah

[steel stirrup]

But they still feel pain apparently so you'd think they avoid the particularly devastating ones

[rose rune]

they just tuff

[muted hedge]

i think Shamrock will be probably the only god knight who has actually taken into consideration all assets of a fight

[steel stirrup]

I just thought about what Gunko must have been thru to be able to get her torso blown off and still not even express pain

[muted hedge]

the others are probably a bit too over reliant on the regeneration

[steel stirrup]

Shamrock has Cerberus too

I cant sleep on Cerberus as much as I'd like to

[muted hedge]

probably another power as well, given his wording when he chose Cerberus

[rose rune]

I hope the weaker strawhats get conquerors haki by holding hands

"together we are strong"

[muted hedge]

it would be hilarious if Oda introduced haki knots just to give the other members some form of combative counter

[rose rune]

Nami will drain haki from zoro and luffy and put it into knots

[muted hedge]

though i'd prefer dials

[trim lily]

weather haki is the next step

[glacial bear]

Yeah the other reason why I have her listed is cuz the same way Gloriosa, a Kuja Empress, sailed out to sea & left Amazon Lily in hopes of finding the man she loves, future pirate king Roger. Is the same way Boa Hancock, also a kuja empress, left Amazon lily to find Luffy, the future pirate king.

I believe Boa will find Luffy again at Laugh Tale. And the only possible way for her to even get there is with all 4 Road Poneglyphs. Which I do see all Yonko crews, including Cross Guild, achieving

[steel stirrup]

So can Imu read minds?

If you have the covenant

[muted hedge]

seems like it, or at least influence ones mind

[steel stirrup]

How tf did Saturn get to disobey orders

It seems like they dont have complete control

[trim lily]

imu would have to do it at will

they’re not constantly aware of everything

[steel stirrup]

Yea it seems they have to have it active

[glacial bear]

Freeee falllllling

Also Sommers is t-posing lmao

[muted hedge]

i do like the symbolism with Imu's main trait being a red peering eye, almost to indicate that they see everything. though it seems like they see what they want to see i guess

[steel stirrup]

Seems they have to "open" the eye

Otherwise mfs can do whatever

[glacial bear]

Saturn did a really bad job 😭

[steel stirrup]

Maybe it takes energy to do the whole control ting

[glacial bear]

Like why would you defy the order to destroy Emeth

Had that whole thing not happened. The board cast would’ve been stopped way sooner

[muted hedge]

or, Imu let it pass just to see if Saturns own arrogance and greed would catch up to him in the end

[glacial bear]

Broadcast I mean

Idk if Imu is that omnipotent

[steel stirrup]

Saturn said the tech could benefit the wg forces but tbh the way he looked at his scientist from 200 years ago he seemed to have not wanted to disappoint them

[glacial bear]

Cuz I doubt Imu saw that Gunko had a flashback of Brook

[steel stirrup]

That would be intimidating

[glacial bear]

He had a good reason yeah but man it’s just funny to think he plays a part to blame lol

[glacial bear]

They will solo the god knights.

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-egghead-nami-zeus-zeus-one-piece-gif-18096238560023984494

Honestly a very powerful weapon

I could see why Oda doesn’t bother giving them Haki but at the very least I do wish they had armament haki to shield themselves.

[gloomy tree]

but that takes time to learn, which they dont really have

[glacial bear]

I suppose the next upgrade is sea prism stone w

Like Zephyr with his smasher arm

https://tenor.com/view/sanji-one-piece-one-piece-film-z-one-piece-z-film-z-gif-11487974636265702577

[solid mantle]

I hate the one piece fandom

[glacial bear]

why

Did something happen Nashixt?

[solid mantle]

Here I was enjoying my usual dark humour youtube videos and as soon as I ended one out of nowhere a reel appeared with a thumbnail with spoilers for the new chapter

stay out of social media

that's my advice

[glacial bear]

Ohh yeah I hate that

[solid mantle]

I WASNT EVEN WATCHING ENGLISH VIDEOS

fuck me

fuck YouTube

[glacial bear]

Ngl I barely have anything related to the one piece manga or anime. If anything is one piece related, it’s mainly either the TCG or bounty rush

[brittle basin]

I mostly getting Tekking or Morj. Rarely do I get other OP related videos on YouTube.

[rose rune]

I haven't seen any of those since a few years ago when I went hard on the "never recommend this channel" spree

[tidal ice]

My play is immediately doing "not interested" on any op related content

[solid mantle]

I DONT WATCH ANYTHING RELATED TO OP IN ANY OTHER PLATFORM

[solid mantle]

imma do that

[glacial bear]

Oh I can’t OPTubers except Tekking101, King Recon, Hidden Island, & uhhh. I think that’s it

Well actually I do like the reaction videos

[rose rune]

I used to do that, but blocking the channels was way more effective

[muted hedge]

damn, i think i also saw the thumbnail Nash is talking about

[glacial bear]

What’s the thumbnail?

Or better yet, what’s the channel?

[muted hedge]

Zhoniin

[glacial bear]

I’m willing to bet it’s O’Hara or something like that

Ohhhh

[solid mantle]

Just run from everything op related

[glacial bear]

Saint Killingham spawns one piece spoilers from his nightmare portals

It’ll be one giant walking text saying the one piece….is fake!!!

[brittle basin]

"I quit." - Oda

Like, Killingham spawns a word bubble that says I quit.

[muted hedge]

i wonder how versatile Killingham will be when he engages a 1v1

theoretically he should be able to turn any match into his favor

by the use of his dream powers

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/vomit-puke-throw-up-gag-barf-gif-11199247647189633146

[solid mantle]

I hate that whenever I start to peel a banana my fucking dog spawns right next to me and if I don't give her a piece, she'll bark at me for like half hour straight, and if I do give her a piece that's too big, she won't eat it, and stares at me like she is Gordon Ramsey or sth, waiting for me to cut it into little baby slices.

I love her with all my heart.

anyways yeah

[scarlet nacelle]

i can understand that for everyone but robin
the revos had multiple haki users yet she just didn't learn a LICK of haki all timeskip

[trim lily]

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/john-cena-wwe-i-quit-give-up-never-give-up-gif-11413433971523636113

[glacial bear]

In the anime it’ll be A word bubble but with impact frames!

[thin quest]

no Dawn & Dusk/LunaPien?

he's the GOAT

[glacial bear]

Oh wait I actually like Dawn & Dusk videos!

And LunaPien too. They’re the same person yea?

[thin quest]

yup, he also does weekly translation breakdowns

he's a polyglot for sure

[glacial bear]

Yeah I enjoy their content

[muted hedge]

i wonder what color the MMA monsters will have in the anime

i'm envisioning a deep purple tone

[glacial bear]

It’ll definitely be cool

[muted hedge]

but knowing toei they'll probably turn it liquid green

[glacial bear]

That’s possible

But I feel like Green would be used for Sommers thorns no?

[muted hedge]

i feel like red thorns would be cool

[glacial bear]

I was honestly expecting brown

[glacial bear]

YES

[muted hedge]

but... we've seen him have green on the cover so my hopes are crushed

green looks good though

[glacial bear]

I was also hoping for Sommers to have red gear

Purple doesn’t look bad on him but still- would’ve went perfect with the thorns vibe

[muted hedge]

maybe once he captures the children within his specialized thorns, those can be red

[glacial bear]

Oooo

I think the yellow has grown on me for Killingham

[fallen meteor]

green thorns with red tip

[muted hedge]

oh yeah

[muted hedge]

i love it, it looks almost enlightened

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/thorns-dark-magic-gif-18499722

When I saw Sommers powers is thorns. I was hoping it gives off the same vibe from sleeping beauty cartoon movie

[muted hedge]

same

[fast pagoda]

Yeah

I like the thorn serpent he rides on

[glacial bear]

Me too

[muted hedge]

are the briars here haki coated?

[glacial bear]

It’s cool that so far, it looks like Gunko, Sommers, & Killingham have a way to rise up to elevated heights thanks to their devil fruit powers

[fallen meteor]

i have this thorns thing in mind but i dont remember from where

[glacial bear]

Gunko with the arrow bird, Sommers with the thorn serpent, & Killingham cuz of the small clouds his hooves step on.

[muted hedge]

the invisible thorns are so cool

[fallen meteor]

it might be just Zyra from LoL

[glacial bear]

Ooo could be. Hard to tell

[glacial bear]

YESSS THAT TOO

The stronger the love for the target, the stronger & more painful the thorns become

[muted hedge]

don't forget Shamrock riding upon a Cerberus head

[distant vine]

This about to be Shirahoshi 🥀

[glacial bear]

OH YEAH

I bet Cerberus when fully formed can also jump super high

[muted hedge]

probably

[glacial bear]

Oof

I feel bad for her family. She’s always been the victim of abduction

[rose rune]

man, I feel like those duck's blood cubes are some sort of lifehack. while they don't really taste much they are really pleasant to eat

[glacial bear]

First Vander Decken, then Saint Charlos, and now likely Blackbeard

[fallen meteor]

cerberus i think beige into deep brown/black

[brittle basin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP9XQj4WtUY here ya go, he is quite passionate i'll give him that

[rose rune]

love how everyone uses ai now

[brittle basin]

Can't wait for Oda to use it in the manga

[rose rune]

finally we can get some good art

[muted hedge]

could be, personally i'd hope for dark beige with red eyes or something

though white would be cool too, just makes the eyes clash even more

[fallen meteor]

like this a light beige on the white parts and a dark brown on the black

[muted hedge]

i can see that

[rose rune]

imagine how good this could look if oda used ai instead @brittle basin

[fallen meteor]

and hopefully the colors mix better and are not so hard cut

[muted hedge]

this looks clean in my opinion

[fallen meteor]

yeee like this
but i'd try a brown instead of the black
maybe yellow eyes???

[muted hedge]

yeah that'd work

though, knowing Oda he'll probably not make it so ordinary if that makes sense

[distant vine]

Id rather not provide engagement to an AI slop thumbnail

What does he say in the video?

[glacial bear]

I wonder if Oda purposely didn’t give Saint Garling a devil fruit because he’ll eventually gain a yokai demon form later on as an Elder

[muted hedge]

he could've had one, just not gotten the chance to use it

[glacial bear]

Mhm. I do think Garling is strong, just not Rocks level strong at that point

[tardy crane]

I think imu directly gave the elders their fruit, so garling will recive one due to being promoted

It'd be funny if imu gave him saturns fruit

[muted hedge]

you know what would be cool, what if Cerberus is a bunch of various tones of red with peering yellow eyes

[glacial bear]

Cuz with a -10,000 point penalty. He still pulled ahead in the lead in competition against his fellow immortal peers

[glacial bear]

Ahh

[glacial bear]

lol imagine

[muted hedge]

that looks good, what would the eye color be?

[brittle basin]

He complains about everything we complain about. But with more energy and gusto to the point he dropped the series.

[brittle basin]

flesh colored fur

[rose rune]

I dunno, I didn't give it much thought

[brittle basin]

blood red. in fact, use your own blood.

[rose rune]

there's a lot of fun things you could go for

oda should consider nurgle colors more often

https://tenor.com/view/nurgle-warhammer-warhammer-40k-gif-2955973579021310407

[muted hedge]

lol

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/rainbow-endless-spiral-colors-knot-gif-5039960

[glacial bear]

I’m firin’ mah laser!

[remote maple]

onigashima anime be like

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-hakai-kaido-big-mom-conquest-of-the-sea-zoro-hakai-hakai-one-piece-gif-26231804

[muted hedge]

maybe?

[remote maple]

https://tenor.com/view/zoro-vs-king-zoro-king-dragon-damnation-103-mercies-gif-10385677576482571235

[glacial bear]

For some reason I was expecting the Zoro & king kiss meme during that impact frame 😭

[remote maple]

down bad

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-trio-luffy-zoro-sanji-gear-5-ifrit-jambe-king-of-hell-gif-9060372773839643214

[remote maple]

evil luffy

[muted hedge]

oooh that looks cool

Oda can really go crazy when it comes to Cerberus, lol

hopefully he'll do some fun palettes for the MMA's as well

it would be funny if not all of them shared a palette

[rose rune]

fixed it

[mighty shell]

zoro why you trying not to laugh

[fallen meteor]

do beige with dark brown dark parts with yellow eyes for me thigh if you can

[fallen meteor]

yeeeeee

see this looks clean to em

[glacial bear]

Cerberus merch gonna go crazy hard 🔥🔥🔥

[tidal ice]

shrimps

[dense rapids]

Shanks brother is shamrock ☘️

Shanks son has green hair

[scenic dirge]

really hope there's more to Shamrock's arsenal than haki + cerberus sword

Not saying Cerberus sword wasn't fucking awesome

it was

but y'know

[hazy turret]

Meh

[dense rapids]

Only other thing he could have is a DF himself

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[vital heart]

hi

[muted hedge]

i definitely think that he has his own devil fruit, just like Loki has Ragnir as well as a fruit

and he considers sending Cerberus out as not dirtying his own hands, so...

[scenic dirge]

Yea definitely a potential interpretation of this. But it could also just mean he didn't want to use any sort of his own physical attacks which includes his own haki prowess. But you're right, maybe Shamrock's arsenal might reflect Loki's a bit given that's where we first see it used

[muted hedge]

i 100% think that's where Oda is going to take it. if it was up to me he'd have Cerberus, his own devil fruit as well as haki on top of that

[vital heart]

hi

sabaku

[muted hedge]

hello

[vital heart]

sabaku

fak u

fak kyuuu

sabasabasaba

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/chinese-guy-funny-chinese-guy-chinese-noodles-eating-chinese-noodles-funny-chinese-meme-guy-gif-14566633223927159374

[vital heart]

Pho

[muted hedge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/keenan-thompson-confused

[grand flower]

Wow

[dark nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cam-cat-camera-cat-wide-cat-wide-gif-16729570673879006163

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/mouth-slurp-weird-mouth-boba-mouth-pov-gif-12495572323355907886

[tidal ice]

https://tenor.com/view/eating-hamster-cute-chew-gif-16914578

[frail cradle]

wff am i seeing

[frail cradle]

horse?

[formal wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-horse-playing-piano-horse-playing-piano-with-nose-meme-mozart-gif-10156172935830611026

[remote maple]

🐴

[frigid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-you-have-alerted-the-horse-alert-alert-horse-horse-alert-gif-10675569724654458517

[dark nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/essica-monthly-squirrel-29th-gif-7091476323168748570

[normal trail]

Time zones

[tidal ice]

who invented them and why

[normal trail]

What I’m saying

[royal orchid]

https://fixupx.com/EMUNOPLA/status/2016465852464300456?t=DWzTuI2N8ugoEH40jkxoHA&s=19

EMUNOPLA (@EMUNOPLA)

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FixupX · Jan 28, 2026, 10:58 AM

this is amazing I can't lie

[tidal ice]

what material is it to be $60

better not be hollow plastic