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And Gunko isn't gonna hold off luffy and loki
It’s Imu
We must return to the era of city states according to Oda
Fan base going crazy if Imu just does them like Rocks
Imu is not gonna be as strong possessioning someone as imu by themselves is
We’re still missing one devil fruit
😭 they wont undo it tho it wld be like a balance and haj - usopp are perfect for this
usopp being the most rational guy
and haj having traits of both ida n harald
Well Gunko is stronger than mentally buffed (thinking) Jinbe so maybe with Imu's help it's possible
Bro we already saw what Imu was capable of
i also think that Loki will be domi reversed
🤞 
why wld you even add zoro to the list 
Lol, I know it'll be a jump up but not that much

zoro was one of the three that was against what elbaf had become
Yeah, we have and loki and luffy got this
that squirrel need to come with usopp. he has already wasted enough of its life in that bum island
im so ready for luffy's special White powers to undo all the domi reversi
Gear Reverse
the power of reversing someone is the most tricky part when discussing this
since if it's Loki and Luffy, sure it's fine and dandy but if Loki for example becomes domi reversed then the tables are immediately turned
imu literally neg diffed rocks
oh was he? hmm... well i dont think he wld be interested enough to do something about it
we saw how Imu dealt with Xebec by sending him against his own
what says that Imu won't do the same with Loki
white power huh. what does Oda mean by this
Joyboy wasnt on GV
true he wasnt
Neither of them will be, luffy is gonna start flipping people in this skirmish himself back to his side
i hope luffy knows how to play reversi
You cant curse what's already accursed

He might need Bonney this time
if only we had someone here who could explain it
bonny might need to get involved too given how you need 2 white pieces iirc
But next time he'll be able to do it himself
i can see it, though i wouldn't personally enjoy it as it would basically diminish domi reversi as a concept, not as freightening anymore
also pasta
Well, it's a game move
i already dislike domi reversi so im for anything that gets rid of it
yeah i know
can't rule out him literally painting them white with a brush
I'd be impressed if Oda managed to make an ability that wasn't solved with acoc
I'm crying reformed shanks fan 😭😭😭
I still haven't forgotten that dream this is the funniest thing I've heard still
imuko shld be around the same power lvls of saturnmu
and we know how broken saturnmu was
was he?
there is hope for everyone
we running back kaido with this one
Gunko is def weaker than Saturn. So this possession will be weaker
i dont think the difference wld be that significant
ye
im not saying imuko will stomp
but there wld be a middleground lol
If Imu managed to keep Shanks around we could've gotten possessed Shanks but that'd probably be too strong for anyone to fight
He'd just beat everyone
unless…
this time for sure
300 chapters after Imu is introduced
Luffy and Loki will be hype tools for Imu 
at this point the imu face reveal being in the next movie isn’t impossible
what is u typing saya
Imu face reveal will happen when Blackbeard invades and grabs Imu’s body with a Black Vortex
i see no way that oda will conclude elbaph without showing imu real appearance
“Zehahaha… so this is the real you”

this is oda
prolly

so this is how the rat king looks like

Imu Killer 

The manga will be crazy once Imu and Bb are in the same location
Every chapter will be people arguing about if he does it or not 😂
ywah lol
Let's see if it will be any more successful than ZKK
ZKK is still possible
Kaido is bones, trust
im pretty sure there will be an insane hype wave the next time bb appears on the manga
i shld sleep
its 4
am
goodnight yall
If he’s actually in the Holy Land it’s gonna be crazy
kaido comes back from the dead as a skeleton like super mario bros style and steals the princess (vivi) and zoro has to save the one piece kingdom
wld be too quick for that
Yea everyone is hunting for the OP
how long ago did he fight law
It makes more sense if he’s searching for MMBF
Tho there’s lafitte at the red line so who knows
or the ancient weapons
Blackbeard will be the reason final war starts now or after laugh tale
That would just mean he loses. No way Oda's going to have Garling and Shamrock taken out without ever actually seeing them fight. I think it's gotta be something else. Maybe Stelly planned a coup lol
WORORORORORO!
Haven’t seen you in a while
Let’s argue like the good ol days
I've been here all the time, I just took a break at the same time as the break
Also Gachiakuta took over my time then too, so I've been over at that server as well
Anything new in math?
You mean science? Nah, Still teaching Earth Science and A&P currently
We were off this friday because of the cold. Yeah I do dissections
We're supposed to do the chicken wing lab soon if I can get some
What’s that?
Students explore the bones and muscles via dissecting a chicken wing
That sounds really cool
he'll be surprised soon when Vivi meets up with the crew again
so all conquerors users are related?
It's actually one of the easiest, we later do eyes, heart and brain
Just found out about the penguin :(
What penguin?

Penguin




Whoever did this emote chain didnt line it up and it aggravates me dearly
whos excited for spoilers in a few days
New chapter is coming 🥳
MODS
only official for present time chapters
tragic emote catastrophe
Blue
Peak
Unc version of doflamingo ahh
whats up fellow break enjoyers
Aren’t they like the same age
untapped parallel between Blackbeard absorbing Ace’s fire n Imu absorbing Sabo’s
lowkey
instead of breaks we should just fully switch to biweekly
OP twitter cooking tf out of Oda recently
well that guy looks like an unc
What’re they saying
it started off of a tweet saying like can you imagine if Oda wrote Maki
she's a character from JJK
it's really just a lot of people criticising Oda's writing of women in OP
is that impling jjk has well written women?
what if oda wrote baki
Odas writing isn’t that bad imo it’s just super long in some places for no reason at all
well a lot of them are saying one is better than none so
yes, that's what I've seen so far. People saying JJK has better written female characters than OP
Pure jokes.
Shakky and Hancock alone clear
Hancock is pretty good yeah
And Shak Attack
Better writing but not nearly as fun tbh
Baki is so unique
I wanna send the “If Oda wrote Maki” image but it counts as jjk spoilers.
I didn’t understand the image at first ngl, I still don’t
A lot of them are stupid
shakky dude?
really?
literal TEXTBOOK damsel in distress
sponteaneously quits piracy to open a bar for some reason, gets kidnapped despite supposedly being a strong pirate
becomes relegated to a mcguffin
she was handled horridly
big mom is the best post timeskip villain
How was she supposed to be handled?
She's literally the cause of God Valley
The biggest event before Marineford in god knows how long
she could have done a better job defending herself in the last chatpter before silvers rescued her
You are correct
or oda could have found a different motivation for godvalley
If you look, it won’t be hard to find women talking about how theyre tired of having to be strong. They don’t want men to tell them “theyre strong.” They want people who give them the space to be vulnerable, to cry, to be soft and to be carried so they can have a break from being strong
Sommers finding Shakky and Ray beating Sommers is a sequence that pays respect to this reality women live through. She projects strength by beating the guards and then attacking Sommers. Sommers talking about how he wants to break Shakky is because he knows she’s scared and vulnerable and he wants to rip that out of her.
Rayleigh apologizing by saying “I’m sorry I let this happen to you” and her bursting into tears is a representation of how to love strong women. She’s not a damsel in distress, Shakky is powerful. Rayleigh gives her the space to not have to be powerful. That’s why she leans into him and cries. That’s something plenty of real women want
Shakky opening the rip-off bar is also pretty strong stuff
Men objectify her
They see her as an object of their desire first before seeing her as a person
She tells them no and they keep trying, ignoring her autonomy
Rayleigh is the only man who treats her like a person by just having an eye to eye conversation with her
hence all said above is true
Holy fucking shit
You did a great analysis
Genuinely well done
Shakky definitely is not a damsel in distress
it wouldve helped if we saw rayleigh and shakky interact for the first time
Shakky and Rayleigh's relationship is pretty much, "that's nice I guess"
Why would you say that? I loved her story
Shakky turning the objectification she faced into profit by ripping off men is also pretty real
Women who work in those industries understand theyre bound to be objectified so they use it to their advantage
don’t need to, we know when we saw them interact ray was the only one kept his cool
as it is in the manga it kinda feels like the trope of "beautiful character falls for the only person who doesnt immediately fall for them"
I mean it is
The "damsel in distress" storyline gets a bad rap, but I don't mind it at times personally
yeah tropes and cliches exist for a reason, theyre typically solid to use
I mean it's a regularly recurring thing in this series
Rayleigh talking to Shakky like a person while every other man is a literal sea of people who keep objectifying her is more than enough
i should do this
shake what my momma gave me
Every other man talks past Shakky
Rayleigh talks to her
The storytelling is in that contrast
It’s the same as Luffy telling Hancock he hates her
Hancock hates that everyone else overlooks what she does because she’s beautiful
yeah they found it interesting
But she has to use that to keep her people safe
Just like Rayleigh, Luffy kept it real with Hancock
how come men like luffy & ray exist
Cut through the bullshit and said “yo you really suck”
First person to treat Hancock like a person
Yeah they had no idea noble men could exist
When the first man you met is a savage
Just seeing Rayleigh breaking down into tears with shakky
And subjected you to savagery
i thought it was boring but people have their preferences
It makes sense
Would Zoro keep it real with Hancock too?
How you gonna see this and say generic shi
Yes
Zoro is a little more stoic
Well a lot more
He’d probably hate her but I feel like it’s 50/50 in if he’d say something
it was boring until i saw shakky cried when ray came
In the same situation, probably
i genuinely moved
Oh we’re talking shakky and rayleigh
I think Luffy is the supreme king due to time travel
the op women writing discourse has reached here😂
that sommers situation was fucked up so hard
seen it on twitter earlier
Thoughts?
If they interacted more, you'd maybe feel something
Awful
did u see what shuron cooked up tho
Slop I’m assuming
Seeing how much of real life was reflected in their story made me feel something
there was some crazy takes I was seeing
Theres value in short stories
probably
Aloha!
@hazy turret yo
Sup
@hazy turret
her tear panel is enough
Can I just chime in?
sharon's essay
though im also just not that interested in shakky so i dont know if getting more wouldve done anything for me lol
Respectfully
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Remove Kaido and Big mom from Blackbeard pirates and include Kuzan and Caribou.
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Have Loki be part of grand fleet.
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Weevil should be with Neo MADs cause Buckin was former member of the old MADs, instead add Doflamingo and Mr 2 to Cross guild, Stussy will be sticking with Edison or go solo for now.
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Majority of red hair pirates are missing in the actual line up along with cross guild too.
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Dressrosa kingdom should also be there cause I imagine Kyros, Viola, and Rebecca will get involved in final war.
And I think that’s it cause other than that the rest is fine.
I’m not reading that
if you have been in a relationship maybe you’ll feel something 
i wish gloriosa got to have more
she got screwed over for basically no reason it feels
Only because I’ve heard those points before
I still feel nothing lol
So I’ll only feel something if I’ve experienced it?
Nothing strong. Just a "that's good for them"
It’s why luffys speciality is supreme king Haki. When Luffy goes back in time, interacting with him is how humanity will discovery they can use Haki/Supreme King Haki
“Haki of the Supreme King” = Joy Boy’s Haki = Luffy’s Haki
The Haki belonging to Luffy, the supreme king
I see
time travel isnt happening tho
Yes it is
nu uh
i love how shuron keeps trying to bring things back to the time travel, truly their magnum opus
Well he did say he is gonna drop the manga if that happened.
But I think he is just ragebaiting with how most of his arguments are being repeated while refusing to listen to other opinions by blatantly missing the point so I just wouldn’t bother with him lol.
I mean... we've already got it in the forward direction
time travel what
Yuh huh
toki is dead
Well foward travel is a little less ass
Joy Boy is Luffy
But didn't Oda say in an SBS about not wanting to implement it in the other direction?
Not Toki
i dont think so
Nope
oh nope
Never talked about it
The only thing I agree is Luffy’s speciality is conquerors Haki and his connection with Joyboy lol.
dropping the manga if Vivi meets up with the strawhat's? he's cooked
The bell on Skypeia has monkeys wearing straw hats
He did ?
you talking about ellie & sieghart in rave kind of stuff
Nope

What
not gonna happen
Even if he did, it really doesn't put it off the table. He said he didn't want any flying characters, and yet we've got Shiki's fruit reverse imported into the main story
I dunno actually. I only vaguely recall time travel being mentioned in an SBS
And thought it was brought up at some point
only 5 df give you flight
big news morgans is too good to fly
And he’s kept Shiki as the only one
Holy sjit
Shiki being mentioned in 2026…
Holy shit
oda said he cannot fly
If we ever had a Chinese island in OP
Y’all
luffy can essentially fly now, doflamingo can essentially fly
Shiki is tuff
I WANT THE NAME OF THE CHINESE KING TO BE SZECHUAN
exactly
Shiki boring
basically any logia can fly
i think the country chinjao is from is supposed to be china themed
Shanks told me in the dream that Shiki was cool
long arm tribe
w shanks
Shiki dead
Explain how Greenbull flies
flower
His little flower propeller
You dreaming bout OP now?
flower on his back
Well that message was a lie but I did have an actual dream about Shanks that made me an actual Shanks fan
Before this dream I hated him
didnt you see? Avery is a Shanks fan now because it appeared to them in a dream
look at em go
Pell’s flight list
- his fruit
- marco
- greenbull
- ?
- ?
tomorrow is chapter week
kaido
Incredible


kaido doesnt fly
finally seen the light, Shanks is the goat fr
Yeah I think he did say that lol
dragons grab flame clouds
momo explained it
Greenball ???
luffy can fly now
for no real reason
It was said to be almost biblical as a dream
gear 5 just makes luffy stay there in the air
I've noticed it
he can move around in the air and like zoom around
whats it called again, divine revelation or something
It was
levitate
luffy can fly except when the plot requires him to
he flies by grabbing the sky
its a form of flight
true
Weird, first time I heard of this one
Lemme actually take a peak to make sure to see if I'm hallucinating . Thought it was part of an SBS about the Toki Toki no Mi
i hate hallucinating sbs entries
Yeah I checked Toki Toki no mi on the wiki and there's nothing in the references. So it doesn't exist
There's another non-canon time manipulating fruit though?
The Riba Riba no mi?
First time I'm ever hearing about it
Weird, so they can force-rewind people
is that the one ain used in film z
It's a different one
The Riba Riba no mi was revealed during the One Piece Premier Show last year
It was a live show from last year. The user of it was a character called Snitcher
Who was acted by this guy
That's the actor in his Snitcher get-up lol
Ain's is the 10 year reversal one
Modo Modo no mi
Kizaru Marco greenbull stronger lafitte Pell the spin guy Shiki
There’s more I just shot the ones off the top
Why would there be 20 kingdoms (meaning there are king and queens) then? If Davy D. Jones was the king of the world
The same reason imu is king of the world
But there are still kings and queens
Ancient kingdom was the WG equivalent
He was this was said
Joyboy left the ancient kingdom to become a pirate
Imu wasn't really king of the world per say, it was a secret that he is, there are kingdoms now bc of WG
Imma go eat my food, ill ttyl
Kk
Nice
Goated artist
Peak
lesson: never trust Pell
I think Imu made a false promise to Davy Jones that he would give him the throne if he did some favor to him and went back on it, that’s why Xebec kept mentioning the promise.
Davy Jones and imu vs joyboy?
that'd actually be sick. In the past, Davy jones and imu team up against joyboy but imu betrays jones. In the present, Davy Jones and Joboy team up against imu but jones betrays joyboy
spawn a new cycle where eventually luffys virtuous world will strive too far and be taken down by jones and imu again
or whatever imu like
itll be so interesting to see young imu. I think its so unlikely that imu was as deeply evil 800 years ago as he is today
sorta like doffy
nah i dont think so. i think doffy is like present day imu. i think imu has changed a lot over 800 years of ruling the world
20 countries including alabasta is so much support. I don't think they're a legion of doom I think imu had some kinda legitimate concern
I’m the same way it makes zero sense for the 20 kings to just be evil
Why hide the void century flashback atp
There’s clearly something more nuanced involved
And frankly VP blatantly confirms this
it’s conflicting because on one hand, the ancient kingdom has been portrayed as fairly good/victims in all, especially cause they had joyboy on their side and the mural
This is actually incorrect, ancient kingdom has been portrayed as neutral to leaning on bad
but on the other it’s just hard to believe the same people who developed(?) the ancient weapons and had 20 kingdoms across the world all unite against them could be fully innocent
Joyboy has had some positive portrayal but the AK absolutely did not
It’s mainly theories that carry the AK convo
i mean i feel everything has been fairly sympathetic to them so far
other than vegapunk
In the text they’re primarily condemned and even to some degree regret creating the weapons
Clover
was he critical of them?
When clover is describing the ancient kingdom he doesn’t condemn the WG for taking them out and if anything gives a pretty great reason why
The threat they posed (ancient weapons)
More neutral leaning on neg
He doesn’t sugar coat the weapons at all
Purely shit portrayal
The only weapon that can be seen as possibly used for good is Poseidon as of now
Uranus is straight up a nuke 😭
the biggest question is whether this represents the ancient kingdom or not (on the right)
And even then it’s extremely morally questionable since they condemned an entire lineage by genetically modifying their offspring to be artificial gods
if it does then i think its like nigh impossible to portray them as bad, unless the mural is heavily biased
IMHO the mural is not one event
I don’t think it portrays any specific world
I think it’s primarily a soup of just
A general concept
The Harley doesn’t go with the mural, they’re two different reveals
Ofc because the general idea of the Harley is portrayed here
A endless cycle
i guess it depends on how you interpret it
That’s what makes it fun
The mural is a telling of the Harley in art form
My interpretation has its own issues because the right CLEARLY depicts the 19 kings alongside imu
But that also means it’s not going chronologically
From one world to the next
In the sense that it’s one major story yes
IMHO the Harley is meant to express the actual conflict of the story
the right side is super bizarre
Which is the constant battle for power
Every single world ends with the oppressed becoming the oppressors
A cycle we see happen pretty effectively in wano itself
The kozuki were not wholesome they p much persecuted an entire family for one persons actions
though wano doesnt really address the problem either
kurozumi clan planned to wipe out a child and then kill the other clan members
it sort of does in the yamato cover story but not that far
I think that’s what makes the final saga interesting
Beating imu isn’t the solution
how the WG, marines and celestial dragons will be handled post-defeat is genuinely one of the things im most curious about
praying oda doesnt take the easy way out with the CDs
They have to somehow break the cycle
If at all
Or at least acknowledge it
They might even flash forward and show that. Yeah. They best IMU but they can’t stop another oppressor from taking over
i get what oda is saying in this sbs but it stills really annoys me lol
wdym think about it ourselves, how about YOU show it
its a fairly important plot point for her and wano
I wouldn’t even want it solved necessarily
Have it be something acknowledged
Ye exactly
Because it IS a issue
Also I bring it up a lot but
The shit with zuniesha is glossed over WAY too much by the community
There is nothing remotely wholesome about his relationship with joyboy/the kozuki
well theres not much to really do with zunesha yet in terms of discussion/theory crafting
its just piling on mystery after mystery
We did get one giant reveal in wano
That zuniesha is like this because they committed some crime
Meaning they only take orders from momo as a punishment
Effectively making zuniesha a 800 year old slave
though why would zunesha come to wano in the first place, its not like momo called for its help
Gorosei soft revealed why
It was part of the prophecy
The walls were supposed to break that night
Momo saying no was not part of the plan
That’s why they sent WG ships to Wano
Because they expected the walls to fall and planned to immediately invade
When they didn’t they just
Dipped
i feel like this implies a pretty amicable relationship between zunesha and joyboy
unless you interpreted it as zunesha hoping luffy could free him
Nah joyboy and luffy are expressed as different ppl here
“I think WE should put our faith into this boy”
When speaking to joyboy
i mean...
They def positively view him
yeah zunesha putting their hopes into luffy
Oh then yeah possibly
Because their relationship with joyboy is def different from emeth
Emeth felt like a actual friend
Zuniesha almost worships joyboy
And this wouldn’t be the only time a slave worshiped or praised their master
Ik it’s other series I’ll delete 😭
Zunesha probably lived during the first world and saw the first Nika
THAT would be interesting
Do we know its age
quite old
Just that it’s over 1000 years
Also there’s a specific scene that seriously has me question his relationship with joyboy/kozuki
Lemme find it
“It’s only been ALLOWED to walk”
He’s asking for permission to protect himself from death 💀
If zunesha lived during the first world he could’ve been cursed during the end of that
Nah he committed the crime 800 years ago
its probably not a serious punishment
Nvm then
Bro he literally wasn’t allowed to preserve his life 😭
like keep moving type of thing for a bigger reason that only joyboy knows
For 800 years
wym
The scene where he’s asking for permission is him asking if he can protect his life
While Jack is cutting him down
yea like the punishment probably has an ulterior motive
I don’t see what’s beneficial about dying
If zuniesha dies he cannot complete whatever task was ordered of him
yea idk
He’s also able to go against OG orders if Momo says so
Rn he isn’t following the joyboy prophecy at all
Luffy and Loki v Imu
He broke it when Momo asked him not to break the walls
*Bonney
loki is kinemon hes not gonna make it all the way to the real imu fight
Sanji is already gonna neg Sommers
Same with Zoro against killingham
This has racial undertones.
Or am I being too extra?
Nope
Nope
Interesting match ups, what about rest of the crew
Dorry and brogy duty.
And other dr giants
And other nightmare monsters
So theres plenty to work with
loki and hajrudin are on dorry and broggy duty
sorry loki but inherited will or whatever clears your desire to beat up the wg
Bonney vs Gunko makes way more sense
What does Gunko fear most again
expecting loki and hajrudin to fight together is the same as expecting luffy and usopp to duo
there is no way its gonna be an entertaining fight because oda would have to dumb it down
usopp and haj can duo and bond about being outshined but still contributing
I feel like ussop has to at least try and fight dorry and broggy

You are being extra
Bro translates the chapters he lowkey has low grade immunity
He is not immune to consequences
The way bro be acting sometimes I think he likes consequences
Usopp hate in the long run
1️⃣ yes
2️⃣ no
let democracy decide his fate.
Give it 32 minutes
Shanks wins
Was rereading skypiea and doesn’t this mean this symbol we always see predates the void century
presumably so
well, unless the ancient Shandorians adopted it during the Void Century before Shandora fell and became ruins.
Why twitter suddenly hate on oda ? Is it because of watsuki ?
They’re saying Oda can’t make good female characters
They are calling oda pedo because of watsuki. It's honestly hard to defend rn . Wish oda never supported watsuki

But yea now it's filled with hatred . It's even reached my tiktok
unfortunately, other high profile mangakas support Watsuki as well ¯_(ツ)_/¯
😭😭
That's just dumb
Yea but not as much as oda did by calling him kindest human or something.
Honestly oda is dumbass for that
Even I can't defend that
😭😭😭😭
loda
Comparing it to a certain bum series as well 
Luffy standing on top of Loki’s fruit in Chapter 1 

I wonder who built his ship
I used to think it was giants since it looks so viking inspired, but it only occured to me now that that a giant making a ship of that size would be like a human building a lego-ship and expecting it to be be fit for sailing 
i suppose its not impossible though
I mean
1000 years ago was probably the height of the ancient kingdom
uh okay?
Thoughts on the Loki fruit?
none of us were talkin bout that before you brought it up
last time it was brought up here was was 20min ago
Sorry. I just had the urge
Spontaneous combustion
If you catch my drift
control your urges
i think that was very straightforward, idk what drift there is to catch there, seems more like a straight road
Twitter is a cesspool of hate and degenerates. It's better for your mental health to stay out of there
Twitter is 50% bots that either repost the same few tweets that are guaranteed to go viral or copy other people’s replies
Yea, and animetwt is no different, its all a competition for engagement, they'll do anything for a drop of Elon bucks
whats up
Why did you decide to make someone's name feet related?
the blue check made it worse. the users who have it relies on ragebaiting people to get attention and even stealing contents! it happened to me twice, word for word w/ pic. Sh*t was infuriating.
oh well I just thought it would be funny, nothing else, not motivated by ANYTHING
yeah, people always used to chase after virality online but the feature of monetization made them way worse
all they do is ragebait for engagement, steal content, posts the same posts over and over again
Me when I lie

Cant believe we let Sandman live, he does this every week
posted the Oda GPT thing for the 67th time and got a banger off it for the 67th time
even though Oda was obviously just playing around lmao
now we've got people saying Oda's greatest arc since WCI (Elbaf) is AI generated smh
HOLY
Aloha, Arsal!
Been a minute
someone pls tell me good anime except these
One piece
Demon Slayer
JJK
AOT
Solo leveling
Death Note
One punch man
ask #other-series
uhhh
I want to do a reread cause there's a lot I am starting to forget but my current top 5 would be
Skypiea
WCI
Water 7
Dressrosa
Alabasta

been really high on Alabasta lately, it really is special
also I am counting them as the full sagas as they are intended to be, so Water 7 is the whole 150 chapter deal
Yeah water7 is fine
Alabasta gets bonus points from me for being my favorite arc when I was 13-14 years old
It's really weird to see skypiea so up above
thigh u must be following op from a long time
Yeah, but arsal is special
Well. I started around 2004
I don't remember exactly when
Yeah I knew his list wld have some weird rankings 
I bought my own computer in 2003, so I know it was after
its weirder to not see it so up above actually
yeah
why do you like it sm
well should be in everyone's top 5 atleast, if not top 1
It's in the lower half for me personally
Shanks wins.
Damn no wano top 5
The biggest arc in one piece?
Wano in top 5 is wild
Is Enies Lobby included in water 7?
Wano is a mid 5 arc
Wano is top 5 arc
What is this wano hate 💔
i have jaya above skypiea 
biggest isnt better, it has plenty of lows even though the highs are high
did you mean the whole saga for every arc u named
Wano has not much low compare . But high are just tooo high compare to others
Okay
Not really hate, other arcs are just a lot better
I read it weekly
yeah
Oden flashback still the best flashback for me
Scabbard has some really cool character
But then we have saboady, impel down mf post mf amazon lily
That's why you need to re-read it in one go
People hate WCI because they read it weekly when it came out
WCI is actually the best arc in one piece.
Kinemon was awesome and funny even with fake death
Fair ig
Only thing sad about wano is carrot
Same with Wano btw
it has the lowest lows of any arc ever lol, downright atrocious lows while the other arcs' lows would be at best mediocre
Im not rereading wano, i did watch it all in one go later in anime
Very mid
Wano also has the highest highs
Wci was good but pudding change after sanji said her third eye is so beautiful feel so sudden
Yeah
loved the themes as well
Act 1 and Act 2 are very strong, Oden Flashback is still one of the best ever but Onigashima is where the issues start to pop in
Disagree ..
Fake deaths are only low in wano
It's different when u binge read it
Probably
Thriller bark, Whiskey Peak, LRLL etc. have lower lows ngl
Wano has gear 5
Coolest sanji and zoro development as warrior and characters.
Awesome fighting moment for robin after 20 long years
And tons of other
Although I can understand the weekly frustration
Kaido was great as villain
Yeah, that shit was too long
What
What's wrong with them
Kaido was so great that people didn't believe when he actually was defeated in the chapter
The fake deaths, the very underwhelming fights for the SHs like Ulti/Page One and Sasaki, the Jack and Perospero fights as well, and the pacing is a total mess. There's parts that drag way too much like half the arc and there are parts that are far too short like Kaido's flashback.

I am saying they have lower lows than wano
Not that they're bad arcs
I'm asking what's the "lower lows" in them
They really dont, LRLL is a very consistently fun arc, TB is consistently very good as well, Whiskey Peak does have Luffy v Zoro but you can atleast dismiss it as a gag
I hated luffy during whiskey peak ngl
Fake deaths sure but alabasta and skypiea had ton of them as well
Jack and perospero fights was perfect with sky splitting as well.
Only thing drag was ice oni
But I agree kaido backstory could have been better and longer but we got god valley
So it's all cool
Yeah lrll and whisky peak are too short and full of fun + they are buildup arcs
I don't see what's wrong with them
Problem with thriller bark is that it's boring
Alabasta had one, Skypiea had really one too because the others werent necessarily portrayed as deaths
I loved thriller bark, it felt like a thriller
Jack and Perospero fights were a mess lol, the end was the only good part
Skypiea had tons as well.
It's felt like deaths but nothing happened.
It's made enel power seems like a joke
Alright calm down bro
Atleast with kinemon ,you can say because of law
The absolute lowest of lows is not in wano
Thriller bark was so much fun lol
But can't excuse enel power on them
That would be thriller bark.
Sanji vs absalom.
Yeah lowest of low is fmi sanji
The middle part of Thriller bark was super bad. I think it has the lowest lows in one piece.
I guess you can give a pass to LRLL and Whiskey Peak
I like thriller bark other than sanji vs absalom
Also you gotta remember we read wano weekly
Imagine reading THRILLER BARK weekly after enies fucking lobby

Imagine reading skypiea weekly
Wonder how many people dropped op there
Imagine reading the fucking PRIEST FIGHTS weekly
Then we see everyone coming back to life in that one chapter
Skypiea is actually a very underrated arc
FR
It's very good
Who we thought were dead
skypeia is great if you skip a third of it
Great arc for sure
You seriously could skip the shitty priests and the story is only improved
Nobody is weeping over robin’s “fight” in skypeia
I like the priests
Do you like the priests enough to wait a week on a priest fight cliffhanger?
Zoro vs that bald priest dude .
It was hilarious
With big dog
Thats the best fight in skypiea
In the middle of Armageddon 😭
Not many options ngl
Any fight with enel is amazing
Robin vs fat guy
tons is ridiculous, its never usually implied that any of them were dying, just knocked out cause Enel's promise was to put everyone out of commission except for 5 people
which he did
Pagaya is the only one that seemed like a death
I just realised
and Pagaya's death does have an explanation too, its not any more sillier than the Kinemon excuse
except Oda REALLY REALLY goes all in on making you feel for Kinemon
Pell is the one example that is comparable to Kinemon, both perfect deaths that were undone but at the very least, Pell did not come back in such a joke of a way
If I sit down and really really think about hating on an arc from op
I can't find any
yeah I dont hate any arc entirely, even the worst have their redeeming qualities
I really love one piece 
yeah they were fun
in an ideal world the entire series would be paced like that but Oda doesnt have eternal youth unfortunately
its really the perfect arc, Oda's art is at its best ever, the pacing is at its best ever
Skypiea Oda's One Piece would be like two hundred chapters longer but it would be worth it smh
same... chapter soon though
Pre ts was really awesome
Alabasta saga
Skypiea saga
Water 7 saga
Mf saga
Gahdamn
Oda
What's taking so long Arsal
imo
East Blue - downright slow by current standards, but its good
Alabasta - > Water 7 arc - pretty much perfect
Enies Lobby -> Dressrosa - issues start to pop in by this time
Zou - Pre Onigashima Wano - Oda starts to ramp up the pacing and this is where he did find a right balance between going faster without sacrificing quality
Onigashima and Egghead - Mess
Elbaf - a most good balance again
oh I was trying to rate the pacing throughout the series
I am still a bit sick so it takes a bit for me to type everything
I'm enjoying elbaf's pacing so far
Oh I didn't know u were sick
it is very fast but it doesnt usually feel like we're missing something, so thats nice
Get well soon 
tyty
Yeahh
but the real test is going to be this year, where Oda claimed he is going to ramp up the pace even further
hope its not too bad
really excited to see how oda handles things with the current timeline
I wanted this arc to be like for the development of each sh
but let's see how it goes
I really dont believe its ending anytime soon for that reason
Pink still believes it is the case
all the setup is here for this to be a big SH arc, well its already been focusing on them but the payoff is needed here
I wld love it if elbaf stretches a bit
Me too
ALSOOOO
ITS HAJRUDIN SEASONNNNN BABYYYY
HELLYEAHHH

yeah, theres just a lot of characters that are gonna need that extended arc
and I think it will extend, probably got atleast 50-ish chapters imo
How many chapters are we already in?
45
40+?
Hmm
Hellyeahhhh
Always wanted it to be more than 30+ chapters once the fb ends

we have got this big battle here, which itself might take a while to resolve
and what follows it? we have still got nothing on the heaven realm, that seems like a big one to me
a big enough reason for the arc to extend
Mosa still a mystery, Elders of Elbaf still silhouettes, Heaven Realm still entirely unknown, that Robot shaped lab in Elbaf from 3000 years still a total mystery
Gotta see the traitor theme unfolding as well
I dont necessarily consider it a twist, but I think we're going to shift towards a battle against the Domi giant pirates and Domi Loki and its gonna take a while to resolve
they somehow manage to drive out Imu but he still ends up getting what he wants, which is the kingdom under the grasp of King Dorry and King Brogy

Also if imu decides to stay a lil longer...do u see the brook gunko plot unfolding?
yeah
I think Oda sees it through to its completion right here
Imu has decided to stay already btw, he is in no hurry to leave
he will stay until he's forcefully driven out
also when he finds out it was loki who killed harald
and thats where Brook will play his role
Muhehehhe
Scary to imagine 
What do you think happens in the next chapter
Also not to mention it really has been just 3 minutes
an update on the people in Sun Realm, like the rest of the crew and we'll see Dorry and Brogy try to kill Jarul I Imagine
yeah its been 3-4 minutes at best lol
we'll cut back to right where we left, like Jinbe trying to think of a solution, Robin trying to free herself, Dorry and Brogy marching towards Jarul
I think they will break free this chapter
No
Hmm
then what wld be the point of it
It's gonna stay for a while
well Robin is going to succeed in freeing herself atleast cause shes good
not all of them tho
I'm betting on jimbi being in the next chapter, so I hope they cut to the other strawhats and give them a bit of time
yea the arrows were uncuttable or whatever, but I am sure Robin will try again
first half is going to be about them imo, 2nd half about Jarul being nearly killed before Loki, Luffy and the others arrive
The official translation confirmed loki can fly right
It would be funny if the strawhats combined their haki to create conquerors haki together. The fanbase would be fuming
i hope mommmy mommy mommy imuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu will be on the next chapter 😭😭😭
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What the fuck dude
calm down son
doctor rocks
morgan freeman
Glad rocks got his phd

Dexter morgan
Good morning you cuty patooties
he’s just like u but w imu

w

This must be that palworld I've heard so much about
@ あぽ
Blue hair and pronouns
Woke piece💔
Zoro got so lost he appeared in the past in Luffy’s flashback in chapter 1
It wasn’t Luffy who’s time traveling it’s Zoro
Crack theory, Ryuma is a time traveling Zoro
And we’re going to ignore Thriller Bark it’s non-canon
Gunko is a lot older than Shamrock.
loda
Twitter takes are irrelevant, they dont even read the series
maybe but I support all oda slander
if it was legitimate maybe, but stuff like "Oda has been using ChatGPT" is just pure bs lol, he played around with it once for a joke and thats it
and its coming from fans of that shonen slop so its hard to take it seriously in the first place
or from OP fans who cannot read, they are the same thing though
crazy how all the Oda slander is being used to prop up mf Gege of all writers
right lmao, something something glasshouses and stones....
most of it is engagement bait though, they will go back to glazing Oda when the chapter comes out, when its what will get them likes
arsal is mad there is no one to censor the truth like mods do here
discordians are too soft
JJK is mid, I just enjoy the oda slander
You know, I wouldn't mind Oda using ChatGPT if it made his job easier
elbaf has so many mistakes it kinda explains it
I would 😭
there's nobody who has been more annoying about my dislike for aspects of the series in staff than me lol
i'd rather Oda quit the series rn then use chatgpt
ye
it would be the opposite lol
he'd be less likely to make mistakes if he was actually looking this stuff up
Oda is getting older and he's got health problems. All that accumulated stress and what have you is due to him working long hours. He's close to being overworked, so if he used ChatGPT and it lessened his workload, that sounds good to me lol
But he'll never do it I'm sure. He takes pride in drawing his own manga
I'd rather him use a different schedule even if it takes a lottt longer for chapters to come out than use AI
AI wouldnt be looking up stuff online per se but its kind of the same thing because its also pulling from the same online sources
plot twist: he already does
what he needs isnt AI to reduce his workload, he just needs a radical work schedule change
like going monthly
yea I agree
the guy doesnt even let digital tools touch his manga, he's not ever using AI on it
he's the biggest traditionalist in the manga industry right now, most of his peers decided to move to digital
He can change the schedule, but you'd get the chapters out at the same time and he wouldn't have to stress as much is what I'm saying
His productivity could even go up honestly
Sandman is the biggest instigator for OP slander on any platform
he's still going strong on the traditional path, even when doing his manga digitally would be another SIGNIFICANT improvement for his lifestyle
so thats where he is at, if the guy wont even go digital because of his traditionalist mindset, forget AI lol
sandman knows all of this too, he wont mention it though, cause thats not what gets him engagement anymore
In a perfect world, manga authors can draw manga on their own terms. Without the gun on their head from greedy corporations.
Honestly Oda probably has a lot of pull at Jump
Like if he really wanted to, they'd orient around his scheduling
But Oda likes getting that chapter out every week
I know you're just speaking generally tho
are you friends with Oda? Did he tell you that himself?
Yeah
its the opposite where he's being FORCED to do less
Told me just the other day
he doesnt want the breaks, he doesnt want to be limited to 17 pages per week
Yeah
he wants to be doing 30 pages straight every week
Oda is by all means a workaholic
Oda said, "If I'm allowed to draw 30 pages each week, I'll soon finish submitting them". Editor said Oda spends much time on deciding how to cram his ideas into 17 pages
editors are the ones who are forcing him to work less right now
which is better for his health
yeah
thankfully, otherwise it would be a deathcase for his health
Part of me wants Oda to just do what he wants but I'm glad that the editors are there as well to keep him from working himself to death
agreed
i think he should take as many breaks as it is required for him to be able to steadily work on the manga to the degree where his health allows him to finish it
i mean most other manga authors take plenty longer and more breaks than Oda does, so i think it's unfair when the fandom constantly hammers him for taking breaks most of which he doesn't want to take but is forced to take like Arsal said
chapter week
lets see if I can resist reading spoilers this week
So now that regeneration is confirmed to be just be bypassed by haki, is kaido above the gorosei
we might get normal discussion back





