#also-manga

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^

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And Gunko isn't gonna hold off luffy and loki

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We must return to the era of city states according to Oda

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Fan base going crazy if Imu just does them like Rocks

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😭 they wont undo it tho it wld be like a balance and haj - usopp are perfect for this
usopp being the most rational guy
and haj having traits of both ida n harald

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i also think that Loki will be domi reversed

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why wld you even add zoro to the list QueenKEKW

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that squirrel need to come with usopp. he has already wasted enough of its life in that bum island

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im so ready for luffy's special White powers to undo all the domi reversi

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we saw how Imu dealt with Xebec by sending him against his own

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what says that Imu won't do the same with Loki

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Joyboy wasnt on GV

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true he wasnt

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i hope luffy knows how to play reversi

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bonny might need to get involved too given how you need 2 white pieces iirc

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But next time he'll be able to do it himself

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also pasta

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i already dislike domi reversi so im for anything that gets rid of it

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yeah i know

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It wasn't a terrible concept

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It snowballs

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Sure

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I'd be impressed if Oda managed to make an ability that wasn't solved with acoc

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I still haven't forgotten that dream this is the funniest thing I've heard still

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was he?

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Gunko is def weaker than Saturn. So this possession will be weaker

ornate tartan
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physically maybe

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but the hax abilities should be the same

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i dont think the difference wld be that significant

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im not saying imuko will stomp

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but there wld be a middleground lol

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He'd just beat everyone

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anyhow

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elbaf shldnt end before atleast 35 chapters

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unless…

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shh

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im manifesting it

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Elbaph will end on ch 1206

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and that will be Imu face reveal ch too

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300 chapters after Imu is introduced

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Luffy and Loki will be hype tools for Imu BBWise

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at this point the imu face reveal being in the next movie isn’t impossible

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what is u typing saya

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Imu face reveal will happen when Blackbeard invades and grabs Imu’s body with a Black Vortex

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i see no way that oda will conclude elbaph without showing imu real appearance

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Imu Killer BBWise

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BBKI

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BB Kills Imu

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*BBAI

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Blackbeard Absorbs Imu

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we need a bb pat emoji

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The manga will be crazy once Imu and Bb are in the same location

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Every chapter will be people arguing about if he does it or not 😂

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ywah lol

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ZKK is still possible

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Kaido is bones, trust

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im pretty sure there will be an insane hype wave the next time bb appears on the manga

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i shld sleep

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its 4

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am

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goodnight yall

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If he’s actually in the Holy Land it’s gonna be crazy

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hellyeah

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its unlikely tho

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wld be too quick for that

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Yea everyone is hunting for the OP

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how long ago did he fight law

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It makes more sense if he’s searching for MMBF

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Tho there’s lafitte at the red line so who knows

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or the ancient weapons

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Blackbeard will be the reason final war starts now or after laugh tale

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Let’s argue like the good ol days

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I've been here all the time, I just took a break at the same time as the break

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Also Gachiakuta took over my time then too, so I've been over at that server as well

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Anything new in math?

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You mean science? Nah, Still teaching Earth Science and A&P currently

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Anatomy and physiology?

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Do you do dissections?

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We were off this friday because of the cold. Yeah I do dissections

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We're supposed to do the chicken wing lab soon if I can get some

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What’s that?

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Students explore the bones and muscles via dissecting a chicken wing

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That sounds really cool

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he'll be surprised soon when Vivi meets up with the crew again

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so all conquerors users are related?

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Just found out about the penguin :(

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What penguin?

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Whoever did this emote chain didnt line it up and it aggravates me dearly

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whos excited for spoilers in a few days

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We're Dragon Ball fans now

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Nobody gives a DAMN about some One Piece

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😂

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New chapter is coming 🥳

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only official for present time chapters

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Blue

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whats up fellow break enjoyers

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OP twitter cooking tf out of Oda recently

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Idk who that is

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is that impling jjk has well written women?

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I don’t have any context about maki or jjk so I don’t understand the criticism

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what if oda wrote baki

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Odas writing isn’t that bad imo it’s just super long in some places for no reason at all

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Shakky and Hancock alone clear

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Hancock is pretty good yeah

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And Shak Attack

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Baki is so unique

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I wanna send the “If Oda wrote Maki” image but it counts as jjk spoilers.

I didn’t understand the image at first ngl, I still don’t

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literal TEXTBOOK damsel in distress

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sponteaneously quits piracy to open a bar for some reason, gets kidnapped despite supposedly being a strong pirate

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becomes relegated to a mcguffin

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she was handled horridly

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big mom is the best post timeskip villain

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She's literally the cause of God Valley

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The biggest event before Marineford in god knows how long

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she could have done a better job defending herself in the last chatpter before silvers rescued her

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or oda could have found a different motivation for godvalley

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# scarlet nacelle literal TEXTBOOK damsel in distress

If you look, it won’t be hard to find women talking about how theyre tired of having to be strong. They don’t want men to tell them “theyre strong.” They want people who give them the space to be vulnerable, to cry, to be soft and to be carried so they can have a break from being strong

Sommers finding Shakky and Ray beating Sommers is a sequence that pays respect to this reality women live through. She projects strength by beating the guards and then attacking Sommers. Sommers talking about how he wants to break Shakky is because he knows she’s scared and vulnerable and he wants to rip that out of her.

Rayleigh apologizing by saying “I’m sorry I let this happen to you” and her bursting into tears is a representation of how to love strong women. She’s not a damsel in distress, Shakky is powerful. Rayleigh gives her the space to not have to be powerful. That’s why she leans into him and cries. That’s something plenty of real women want

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Shakky opening the rip-off bar is also pretty strong stuff

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Men objectify her

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They see her as an object of their desire first before seeing her as a person

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She tells them no and they keep trying, ignoring her autonomy

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Rayleigh is the only man who treats her like a person by just having an eye to eye conversation with her

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You did a great analysis

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Genuinely well done

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Shakky definitely is not a damsel in distress

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it wouldve helped if we saw rayleigh and shakky interact for the first time

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Shakky and Rayleigh's relationship is pretty much, "that's nice I guess"

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Shakky turning the objectification she faced into profit by ripping off men is also pretty real

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Women who work in those industries understand theyre bound to be objectified so they use it to their advantage

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as it is in the manga it kinda feels like the trope of "beautiful character falls for the only person who doesnt immediately fall for them"

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I mean it is

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The "damsel in distress" storyline gets a bad rap, but I don't mind it at times personally

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yeah tropes and cliches exist for a reason, theyre typically solid to use

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I mean it's a regularly recurring thing in this series

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Rayleigh talking to Shakky like a person while every other man is a literal sea of people who keep objectifying her is more than enough

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shake what my momma gave me

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Every other man talks past Shakky

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Rayleigh talks to her

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The storytelling is in that contrast

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It’s the same as Luffy telling Hancock he hates her

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Hancock hates that everyone else overlooks what she does because she’s beautiful

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yeah they found it interesting

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But she has to use that to keep her people safe

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Just like Rayleigh, Luffy kept it real with Hancock

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how come men like luffy & ray exist

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Cut through the bullshit and said “yo you really suck”

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First person to treat Hancock like a person

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Rayleigh x Shakky being devalued was insane

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Loved that story

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When the first man you met is a savage

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Just seeing Rayleigh breaking down into tears with shakky

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And subjected you to savagery

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It makes sense

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Would Zoro keep it real with Hancock too?

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How you gonna see this and say generic shi

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Well a lot more

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He’d probably hate her but I feel like it’s 50/50 in if he’d say something

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In the same situation, probably

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i genuinely moved

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Oh we’re talking shakky and rayleigh

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the op women writing discourse has reached here😂

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that sommers situation was fucked up so hard

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seen it on twitter earlier

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Rokaya's not a fan

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Of Shakky neither

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did u see what shuron cooked up tho

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Slop I’m assuming

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Seeing how much of real life was reflected in their story made me feel something

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there was some crazy takes I was seeing

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Theres value in short stories

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Aloha!

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@hazy turret yo

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Sup

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her tear panel is enough

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Can I just chime in?

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sharon's essay

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though im also just not that interested in shakky so i dont know if getting more wouldve done anything for me lol

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  1. Remove Kaido and Big mom from Blackbeard pirates and include Kuzan and Caribou.

  2. Have Loki be part of grand fleet.

  3. Weevil should be with Neo MADs cause Buckin was former member of the old MADs, instead add Doflamingo and Mr 2 to Cross guild, Stussy will be sticking with Edison or go solo for now.

  4. Majority of red hair pirates are missing in the actual line up along with cross guild too.

  5. Dressrosa kingdom should also be there cause I imagine Kyros, Viola, and Rebecca will get involved in final war.

And I think that’s it cause other than that the rest is fine.

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I’m not reading that

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i wish gloriosa got to have more

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she got screwed over for basically no reason it feels

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Only because I’ve heard those points before

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Nothing strong. Just a "that's good for them"

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“Haki of the Supreme King” = Joy Boy’s Haki = Luffy’s Haki

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The Haki belonging to Luffy, the supreme king

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time travel isnt happening tho

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i love how shuron keeps trying to bring things back to the time travel, truly their magnum opus

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I mean... we've already got it in the forward direction

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time travel what

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toki is dead

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Well foward travel is a little less ass

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But didn't Oda say in an SBS about not wanting to implement it in the other direction?

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i dont think so

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Never talked about it

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you talking about ellie & sieghart in rave kind of stuff

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not gonna happen

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Even if he did, it really doesn't put it off the table. He said he didn't want any flying characters, and yet we've got Shiki's fruit reverse imported into the main story

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we have so many characters with free flight

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or effectively free flight

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And thought it was brought up at some point

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big news morgans is too good to fly

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I want a Hawaiian island in one piece

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I want a Chinese island in one piecr

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Holy sjit

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Shiki being mentioned in 2026…

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Holy shit

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If we ever had a Chinese island in OP

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Y’all

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Shiki is tuff

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I WANT THE NAME OF THE CHINESE KING TO BE SZECHUAN

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Shiki boring

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basically any logia can fly

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Shanks told me in the dream that Shiki was cool

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long arm tribe

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Shiki dead

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oh yeah he can too

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pikmin greenbull w

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flower

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His little flower propeller

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Before this dream I hated him

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look at em go

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Pell’s flight list

  • his fruit
  • marco
  • greenbull
  • ?
  • ?
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tomorrow is chapter week

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dragons grab flame clouds

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its the same thing lol

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he can fly

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momo explained it

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What was the dream Avery san

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Green Bull is a helicopter

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luffy can fly now

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for no real reason

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It was said to be almost biblical as a dream

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I've noticed it

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he can move around in the air and like zoom around

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It was

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levitate

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luffy can fly except when the plot requires him to

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he flies by grabbing the sky

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he floats by grabbing the cloud

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its a form of flight

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true

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Lemme actually take a peak to make sure to see if I'm hallucinating . Thought it was part of an SBS about the Toki Toki no Mi

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i hate hallucinating sbs entries

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Yeah I checked Toki Toki no mi on the wiki and there's nothing in the references. So it doesn't exist

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There's another non-canon time manipulating fruit though?

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The Riba Riba no mi?

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First time I'm ever hearing about it

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Weird, so they can force-rewind people

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is that the one ain used in film z

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It's a different one

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The Riba Riba no mi was revealed during the One Piece Premier Show last year

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It was a live show from last year. The user of it was a character called Snitcher

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Who was acted by this guy

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That's the actor in his Snitcher get-up lol

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Ain's is the 10 year reversal one

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Modo Modo no mi

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There’s more I just shot the ones off the top

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Why would there be 20 kingdoms (meaning there are king and queens) then? If Davy D. Jones was the king of the world

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But there are still kings and queens

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Ancient kingdom was the WG equivalent

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He was this was said

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Joyboy left the ancient kingdom to become a pirate

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Imu wasn't really king of the world per say, it was a secret that he is, there are kingdoms now bc of WG

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Imma go eat my food, ill ttyl

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Kk

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Davy Jones and imu vs joyboy?

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that'd actually be sick. In the past, Davy jones and imu team up against joyboy but imu betrays jones. In the present, Davy Jones and Joboy team up against imu but jones betrays joyboy

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spawn a new cycle where eventually luffys virtuous world will strive too far and be taken down by jones and imu again

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or whatever imu like

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itll be so interesting to see young imu. I think its so unlikely that imu was as deeply evil 800 years ago as he is today

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nah i dont think so. i think doffy is like present day imu. i think imu has changed a lot over 800 years of ruling the world

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20 countries including alabasta is so much support. I don't think they're a legion of doom I think imu had some kinda legitimate concern

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Why hide the void century flashback atp

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There’s clearly something more nuanced involved

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And frankly VP blatantly confirms this

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it’s conflicting because on one hand, the ancient kingdom has been portrayed as fairly good/victims in all, especially cause they had joyboy on their side and the mural

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but on the other it’s just hard to believe the same people who developed(?) the ancient weapons and had 20 kingdoms across the world all unite against them could be fully innocent

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Joyboy has had some positive portrayal but the AK absolutely did not

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It’s mainly theories that carry the AK convo

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i mean i feel everything has been fairly sympathetic to them so far

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other than vegapunk

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In the text they’re primarily condemned and even to some degree regret creating the weapons

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was he critical of them?

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When clover is describing the ancient kingdom he doesn’t condemn the WG for taking them out and if anything gives a pretty great reason why

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The threat they posed (ancient weapons)

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He doesn’t sugar coat the weapons at all

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Purely shit portrayal

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The only weapon that can be seen as possibly used for good is Poseidon as of now

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Uranus is straight up a nuke 😭

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the biggest question is whether this represents the ancient kingdom or not (on the right)

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if it does then i think its like nigh impossible to portray them as bad, unless the mural is heavily biased

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well yeah

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it depicts potentially three

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im talking about the conflict here

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I don’t think it portrays any specific world

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I think it’s primarily a soup of just

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A general concept

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The Harley doesn’t go with the mural, they’re two different reveals

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but the fact that theyre shown together means they must be connected

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in some way

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A endless cycle

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i guess it depends on how you interpret it

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My interpretation has its own issues because the right CLEARLY depicts the 19 kings alongside imu

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But that also means it’s not going chronologically

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From one world to the next

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IMHO the Harley is meant to express the actual conflict of the story

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Which is the constant battle for power

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Every single world ends with the oppressed becoming the oppressors

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A cycle we see happen pretty effectively in wano itself

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The kozuki were not wholesome they p much persecuted an entire family for one persons actions

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though wano doesnt really address the problem either

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kurozumi clan planned to wipe out a child and then kill the other clan members

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it sort of does in the yamato cover story but not that far

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Beating imu isn’t the solution

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how the WG, marines and celestial dragons will be handled post-defeat is genuinely one of the things im most curious about

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praying oda doesnt take the easy way out with the CDs

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They have to somehow break the cycle

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If at all

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Or at least acknowledge it

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They might even flash forward and show that. Yeah. They best IMU but they can’t stop another oppressor from taking over

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i get what oda is saying in this sbs but it stills really annoys me lol

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wdym think about it ourselves, how about YOU show it

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its a fairly important plot point for her and wano

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Have it be something acknowledged

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id just like it acknowledged in story

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yeah

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Because it IS a issue

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Also I bring it up a lot but

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The shit with zuniesha is glossed over WAY too much by the community

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There is nothing remotely wholesome about his relationship with joyboy/the kozuki

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well theres not much to really do with zunesha yet in terms of discussion/theory crafting

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its just piling on mystery after mystery

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That zuniesha is like this because they committed some crime

Meaning they only take orders from momo as a punishment

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Effectively making zuniesha a 800 year old slave

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though why would zunesha come to wano in the first place, its not like momo called for its help

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It was part of the prophecy

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The walls were supposed to break that night

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Momo saying no was not part of the plan

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That’s why they sent WG ships to Wano

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Because they expected the walls to fall and planned to immediately invade

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When they didn’t they just

Dipped

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i feel like this implies a pretty amicable relationship between zunesha and joyboy

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unless you interpreted it as zunesha hoping luffy could free him

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“I think WE should put our faith into this boy”

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When speaking to joyboy

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i mean...

fringe escarp
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It’s referring to luffy

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yeah zunesha putting their hopes into luffy

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Oh then yeah possibly

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Because their relationship with joyboy is def different from emeth

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Emeth felt like a actual friend

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Zuniesha almost worships joyboy

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And this wouldn’t be the only time a slave worshiped or praised their master

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Ik it’s other series I’ll delete 😭

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Zunesha probably lived during the first world and saw the first Nika

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Do we know its age

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quite old

dense rapids
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Also there’s a specific scene that seriously has me question his relationship with joyboy/kozuki

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Lemme find it

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“It’s only been ALLOWED to walk”

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He’s asking for permission to protect himself from death 💀

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If zunesha lived during the first world he could’ve been cursed during the end of that

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its probably not a serious punishment

dense rapids
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like keep moving type of thing for a bigger reason that only joyboy knows

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For 800 years

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wym

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The scene where he’s asking for permission is him asking if he can protect his life

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While Jack is cutting him down

maiden crystal
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yea like the punishment probably has an ulterior motive

fringe escarp
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I don’t see what’s beneficial about dying

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If zuniesha dies he cannot complete whatever task was ordered of him

maiden crystal
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yea idk

fringe escarp
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He’s also able to go against OG orders if Momo says so

vital heart
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Zoro and Usopp v Killingham

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Sanji and Robin v Sommers

fringe escarp
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Rn he isn’t following the joyboy prophecy at all

vital heart
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Luffy and Loki v Imu

fringe escarp
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He broke it when Momo asked him not to break the walls

dense rapids
dense haven
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bonney will be fighting alongside luffy tbh

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shes luffy level

thick mango
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loki is kinemon hes not gonna make it all the way to the real imu fight

dapper tree
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Bonney and Luffy will flip people back

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And MAYBE make white warriors

dapper tree
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Same with Zoro against killingham

vital heart
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Or am I being too extra?

vital heart
vital heart
stone tulip
vital heart
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Dorry and brogy duty.

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And other dr giants

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And other nightmare monsters

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So theres plenty to work with

trim lily
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loki and hajrudin are on dorry and broggy duty

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sorry loki but inherited will or whatever clears your desire to beat up the wg

fast pagoda
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What does Gunko fear most again

dense haven
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expecting loki and hajrudin to fight together is the same as expecting luffy and usopp to duo

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there is no way its gonna be an entertaining fight because oda would have to dumb it down

thick mango
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usopp and haj can duo and bond about being outshined but still contributing

tardy crane
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I feel like ussop has to at least try and fight dorry and broggy

dapper tree
vapid flower
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meek has never not been extra

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but its okay hes our special guy

dapper tree
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He'll be banned one day

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For a bad bet

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Cause he always losing them

steel stirrup
dapper tree
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He is not immune to consequences

steel stirrup
coral chasmBOT
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Usopp hate in the long run

tropic novaBOT
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ban meek

1️⃣ yes

2️⃣ no

vapid flower
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let democracy decide his fate.

prisma idol
high wolf
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Shanks wins

prisma yacht
dense rapids
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Was rereading skypiea and doesn’t this mean this symbol we always see predates the void century

ionic palm
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presumably so

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well, unless the ancient Shandorians adopted it during the Void Century before Shandora fell and became ruins.

dense rapids
outer flax
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Why twitter suddenly hate on oda ? Is it because of watsuki ?

dense rapids
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They’re saying Oda can’t make good female characters

outer flax
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But yea now it's filled with hatred . It's even reached my tiktok

ionic palm
prisma yacht
outer flax
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Even I can't defend that

prisma yacht
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😭😭😭😭

dense haven
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loda

rain cedar
dense rapids
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Luffy standing on top of Loki’s fruit in Chapter 1 BBWise

dense pike
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I wonder who built his ship
I used to think it was giants since it looks so viking inspired, but it only occured to me now that that a giant making a ship of that size would be like a human building a lego-ship and expecting it to be be fit for sailing BBPieSmile

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i suppose its not impossible though

prisma yacht
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That's true for a loki sized giant

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which we know others aren't

fast pagoda
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1000 years ago was probably the height of the ancient kingdom

vital heart
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If you catch my drift lol

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Anyways lets move on

dense pike
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uh okay?

vital heart
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Thoughts on the Loki fruit?

dense pike
dense pike
vital heart
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Spontaneous combustion

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If you catch my drift

dense pike
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i think that was very straightforward, idk what drift there is to catch there, seems more like a straight road

rose rune
cunning narwhal
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Twitter is 50% bots that either repost the same few tweets that are guaranteed to go viral or copy other people’s replies

ashen perch
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Yea, and animetwt is no different, its all a competition for engagement, they'll do anything for a drop of Elon bucks

frail kindle
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Hey arsal

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I have a question

ashen perch
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whats up

frail kindle
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Why did you decide to make someone's name feet related?

tidal rune
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the blue check made it worse. the users who have it relies on ragebaiting people to get attention and even stealing contents! it happened to me twice, word for word w/ pic. Sh*t was infuriating.

ashen perch
ashen perch
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all they do is ragebait for engagement, steal content, posts the same posts over and over again

ashen perch
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posted the Oda GPT thing for the 67th time and got a banger off it for the 67th time

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even though Oda was obviously just playing around lmao

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now we've got people saying Oda's greatest arc since WCI (Elbaf) is AI generated smh

vital heart
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Aloha, Arsal!

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Been a minute

ashen perch
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hi

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yea just been busy

red cove
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someone pls tell me good anime except these
One piece
Demon Slayer
JJK
AOT
Solo leveling
Death Note
One punch man

prisma yacht
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Wait

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Arsal

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what are ur top 5 arcs

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@ashen perch

ashen perch
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uhhh

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I want to do a reread cause there's a lot I am starting to forget but my current top 5 would be

Skypiea
WCI
Water 7
Dressrosa
Alabasta

prisma yacht
ashen perch
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been really high on Alabasta lately, it really is special

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also I am counting them as the full sagas as they are intended to be, so Water 7 is the whole 150 chapter deal

prisma yacht
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Yeah water7 is fine

rose rune
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Alabasta gets bonus points from me for being my favorite arc when I was 13-14 years old

prisma yacht
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It's really weird to see skypiea so up above

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thigh u must be following op from a long time

rose rune
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Yeah, but arsal is special

rose rune
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I don't remember exactly when

prisma yacht
prisma yacht
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My birth year

rose rune
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I bought my own computer in 2003, so I know it was after

ashen perch
prisma yacht
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I doubt it

ashen perch
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yeah

prisma yacht
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why do you like it sm

ashen perch
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well should be in everyone's top 5 atleast, if not top 1

rose rune
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It's in the lower half for me personally

high wolf
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Shanks wins.

outer flax
rose rune
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Wano in top 5 is wild

high wolf
tidal ice
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Wano is a mid 5 arc

outer flax
#

Wano is top 5 arc

high wolf
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What is this wano hate 💔

prisma yacht
ashen perch
ashen perch
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jaya is part of skypiea

prisma yacht
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did you mean the whole saga for every arc u named

outer flax
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Wano has not much low compare . But high are just tooo high compare to others

high wolf
rose rune
tidal ice
outer flax
#

Oden flashback still the best flashback for me

prisma yacht
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So drum island is with alabasta aswell

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Hmmm valid af

outer flax
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Scabbard has some really cool character

prisma yacht
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But then we have saboady, impel down mf post mf amazon lily

high wolf
# tidal ice I read it weekly

That's why you need to re-read it in one go

People hate WCI because they read it weekly when it came out

WCI is actually the best arc in one piece.

outer flax
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Kinemon was awesome and funny even with fake death

outer flax
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Only thing sad about wano is carrot

ashen perch
tidal ice
prisma yacht
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Wano also has the highest highs

outer flax
high wolf
prisma yacht
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loved the themes as well

ashen perch
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Act 1 and Act 2 are very strong, Oden Flashback is still one of the best ever but Onigashima is where the issues start to pop in

outer flax
tidal ice
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It just overstayed its welcome for me

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!act3

prisma yacht
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It's different when u binge read it

tidal ice
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Probably

high wolf
outer flax
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Wano has gear 5
Coolest sanji and zoro development as warrior and characters.
Awesome fighting moment for robin after 20 long years
And tons of other

prisma yacht
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Although I can understand the weekly frustration

outer flax
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Kaido was great as villain

high wolf
prisma yacht
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What's wrong with them

outer flax
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Kaido was so great that people didn't believe when he actually was defeated in the chapter

ashen perch
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The fake deaths, the very underwhelming fights for the SHs like Ulti/Page One and Sasaki, the Jack and Perospero fights as well, and the pacing is a total mess. There's parts that drag way too much like half the arc and there are parts that are far too short like Kaido's flashback.

outer flax
prisma yacht
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!kaido

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!koido

high wolf
prisma yacht
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I'm asking what's the "lower lows" in them

ashen perch
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They really dont, LRLL is a very consistently fun arc, TB is consistently very good as well, Whiskey Peak does have Luffy v Zoro but you can atleast dismiss it as a gag

tidal ice
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I hated luffy during whiskey peak ngl

outer flax
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So it's all cool

prisma yacht
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Yeah lrll and whisky peak are too short and full of fun + they are buildup arcs

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I don't see what's wrong with them

outer flax
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Problem with thriller bark is that it's boring

ashen perch
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Alabasta had one, Skypiea had really one too because the others werent necessarily portrayed as deaths

tidal ice
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I loved thriller bark, it felt like a thriller

ashen perch
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Jack and Perospero fights were a mess lol, the end was the only good part

outer flax
outer flax
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Atleast with kinemon ,you can say because of law

fringe escarp
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The absolute lowest of lows is not in wano

prisma yacht
outer flax
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But can't excuse enel power on them

prisma yacht
fringe escarp
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That would be thriller bark.

Sanji vs absalom.

tidal ice
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Yeah lowest of low is fmi sanji

high wolf
outer flax
fringe escarp
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Also you gotta remember we read wano weekly

Imagine reading THRILLER BARK weekly after enies fucking lobby

prisma yacht
outer flax
#

Imagine reading skypiea weekly

tidal ice
fringe escarp
#

Imagine reading the fucking PRIEST FIGHTS weekly

outer flax
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Then we see everyone coming back to life in that one chapter

high wolf
fringe escarp
high wolf
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It's very good

outer flax
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Who we thought were dead

fringe escarp
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skypeia is great if you skip a third of it

outer flax
fringe escarp
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You seriously could skip the shitty priests and the story is only improved

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Nobody is weeping over robin’s “fight” in skypeia

outer flax
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I like the priests

fringe escarp
outer flax
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Zoro vs that bald priest dude .
It was hilarious

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With big dog

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Thats the best fight in skypiea

fringe escarp
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In the middle of Armageddon 😭

outer flax
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Oda was cooking in that

fringe escarp
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Any fight with enel is amazing

outer flax
fringe escarp
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Not many options.

outer flax
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Fight with enel was great

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But final chapter is just one hit

ashen perch
#

which he did

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Pagaya is the only one that seemed like a death

prisma yacht
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I just realised

ashen perch
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and Pagaya's death does have an explanation too, its not any more sillier than the Kinemon excuse

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except Oda REALLY REALLY goes all in on making you feel for Kinemon

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Pell is the one example that is comparable to Kinemon, both perfect deaths that were undone but at the very least, Pell did not come back in such a joke of a way

prisma yacht
ashen perch
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yeah I dont hate any arc entirely, even the worst have their redeeming qualities

prisma yacht
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I really love one piece ChiyoCry

ashen perch
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in an ideal world the entire series would be paced like that but Oda doesnt have eternal youth unfortunately

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its really the perfect arc, Oda's art is at its best ever, the pacing is at its best ever

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Skypiea Oda's One Piece would be like two hundred chapters longer but it would be worth it smh

ashen perch
prisma yacht
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I'd say it's water 7 where the pacing is peak

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But yeah kinda the same phase

ashen perch
#

well it does continue after the skypiea arc

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yeah

prisma yacht
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Pre ts was really awesome

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Alabasta saga
Skypiea saga
Water 7 saga
Mf saga

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Gahdamn

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Oda

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What's taking so long Arsal

ashen perch
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imo
East Blue - downright slow by current standards, but its good
Alabasta - > Water 7 arc - pretty much perfect
Enies Lobby -> Dressrosa - issues start to pop in by this time
Zou - Pre Onigashima Wano - Oda starts to ramp up the pacing and this is where he did find a right balance between going faster without sacrificing quality
Onigashima and Egghead - Mess
Elbaf - a most good balance again

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oh I was trying to rate the pacing throughout the series

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I am still a bit sick so it takes a bit for me to type everything

prisma yacht
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I'm enjoying elbaf's pacing so far

prisma yacht
ashen perch
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it is very fast but it doesnt usually feel like we're missing something, so thats nice

prisma yacht
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Get well soon SerieHeadpat

ashen perch
#

tyty

ashen perch
#

but the real test is going to be this year, where Oda claimed he is going to ramp up the pace even further

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hope its not too bad

prisma yacht
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really excited to see how oda handles things with the current timeline

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I wanted this arc to be like for the development of each sh

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but let's see how it goes

ashen perch
#

I really dont believe its ending anytime soon for that reason

prisma yacht
ashen perch
#

all the setup is here for this to be a big SH arc, well its already been focusing on them but the payoff is needed here

prisma yacht
maiden charm
prisma yacht
#

ITS HAJRUDIN SEASONNNNN BABYYYY

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HELLYEAHHH

ashen perch
#

yeah, theres just a lot of characters that are gonna need that extended arc

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and I think it will extend, probably got atleast 50-ish chapters imo

prisma yacht
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How many chapters are we already in?

ashen perch
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45

prisma yacht
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40+?

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Hmm

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Hellyeahhhh

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Always wanted it to be more than 30+ chapters once the fb ends

prisma yacht
ashen perch
#

we have got this big battle here, which itself might take a while to resolve

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and what follows it? we have still got nothing on the heaven realm, that seems like a big one to me

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a big enough reason for the arc to extend

prisma yacht
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I'm having this hunch

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that there's still a plot twist waiting for us

ashen perch
#

Mosa still a mystery, Elders of Elbaf still silhouettes, Heaven Realm still entirely unknown, that Robot shaped lab in Elbaf from 3000 years still a total mystery

prisma yacht
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Gotta see the traitor theme unfolding as well

ashen perch
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I dont necessarily consider it a twist, but I think we're going to shift towards a battle against the Domi giant pirates and Domi Loki and its gonna take a while to resolve

prisma yacht
#

dr lokiFrierenShock

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this wld explain all the gas but I don't want this

ashen perch
#

they somehow manage to drive out Imu but he still ends up getting what he wants, which is the kingdom under the grasp of King Dorry and King Brogy

prisma yacht
prisma yacht
ashen perch
#

yeah

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I think Oda sees it through to its completion right here

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Imu has decided to stay already btw, he is in no hurry to leave

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he will stay until he's forcefully driven out

prisma yacht
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also when he finds out it was loki who killed harald

ashen perch
#

and thats where Brook will play his role

prisma yacht
#

Muhehehhe

ashen perch
#

yeah

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thats when Imu will really want to Domi Reversi Loki

prisma yacht
#

Scary to imagine FrierenShock

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What do you think happens in the next chapter

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Also not to mention it really has been just 3 minutes

ashen perch
#

an update on the people in Sun Realm, like the rest of the crew and we'll see Dorry and Brogy try to kill Jarul I Imagine

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yeah its been 3-4 minutes at best lol

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we'll cut back to right where we left, like Jinbe trying to think of a solution, Robin trying to free herself, Dorry and Brogy marching towards Jarul

prisma yacht
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I think they will break free this chapter

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No

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Hmm

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then what wld be the point of it

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It's gonna stay for a while

ashen perch
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well Robin is going to succeed in freeing herself atleast cause shes good

prisma yacht
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not all of them tho

rose rune
#

I'm betting on jimbi being in the next chapter, so I hope they cut to the other strawhats and give them a bit of time

ashen perch
#

yea the arrows were uncuttable or whatever, but I am sure Robin will try again

ashen perch
prisma yacht
#

The official translation confirmed loki can fly right

rose rune
#

It would be funny if the strawhats combined their haki to create conquerors haki together. The fanbase would be fuming

noble haven
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i hope mommmy mommy mommy imuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu will be on the next chapter 😭😭😭SadHoshi😿😿😿😿SadHoshi😢akihypeakihypeakihypeakihypeakihypeakihypeakihypeKaidoPopcornKaidoPopcornKaidoPopcornKaidoPopcornKaidoPopcornKaidoPopcornKaidoPopcornKaidoPopcorn🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃

prisma yacht
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What the fuck dude

noble haven
#

ok

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break week making me tweak

prisma yacht
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Reminder if loki gets dr'd

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He will be stronger than dr rocks

dense haven
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doctor rocks

spice python
#

Are Morgan and Morgans the same character?

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Or Oda ran out of names?

dense haven
#

morgan freeman

tardy crane
spice python
prisma yacht
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Dexter morgan

ocean sigil
#

Good morning you cuty patooties

vapid flower
muted hedge
cosmic hamlet
stray prism
graceful grove
rose rune
muted hedge
#

@ あぽ

vale heath
#

Blue hair and pronouns

final trench
#

Woke piece💔

craggy vapor
vale heath
#

Zoro got so lost he appeared in the past in Luffy’s flashback in chapter 1

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It wasn’t Luffy who’s time traveling it’s Zoro

#

Crack theory, Ryuma is a time traveling Zoro
And we’re going to ignore Thriller Bark it’s non-canon

craggy vapor
frozen aspen
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oda getting cooked on twitter

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based

dense haven
#

loda

ashen perch
#

Twitter takes are irrelevant, they dont even read the series

frozen aspen
#

maybe but I support all oda slander

ashen perch
#

if it was legitimate maybe, but stuff like "Oda has been using ChatGPT" is just pure bs lol, he played around with it once for a joke and thats it

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and its coming from fans of that shonen slop so its hard to take it seriously in the first place

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or from OP fans who cannot read, they are the same thing though

coral vapor
ashen perch
#

right lmao, something something glasshouses and stones....

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most of it is engagement bait though, they will go back to glazing Oda when the chapter comes out, when its what will get them likes

dense haven
#

arsal is mad there is no one to censor the truth like mods do here

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discordians are too soft

frozen aspen
wet condor
#

You know, I wouldn't mind Oda using ChatGPT if it made his job easier

frozen aspen
#

i would

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doubt he does though

dense haven
#

elbaf has so many mistakes it kinda explains it

ashen perch
frozen aspen
#

ye

ashen perch
#

he'd be less likely to make mistakes if he was actually looking this stuff up

wet condor
#

Oda is getting older and he's got health problems. All that accumulated stress and what have you is due to him working long hours. He's close to being overworked, so if he used ChatGPT and it lessened his workload, that sounds good to me lol

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But he'll never do it I'm sure. He takes pride in drawing his own manga

coral vapor
ashen perch
craggy vapor
ashen perch
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what he needs isnt AI to reduce his workload, he just needs a radical work schedule change

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like going monthly

coral vapor
#

yea I agree

ashen perch
#

the guy doesnt even let digital tools touch his manga, he's not ever using AI on it

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he's the biggest traditionalist in the manga industry right now, most of his peers decided to move to digital

wet condor
#

He can change the schedule, but you'd get the chapters out at the same time and he wouldn't have to stress as much is what I'm saying

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His productivity could even go up honestly

coral vapor
#

Sandman is the biggest instigator for OP slander on any platform

ashen perch
#

so thats where he is at, if the guy wont even go digital because of his traditionalist mindset, forget AI lol

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sandman knows all of this too, he wont mention it though, cause thats not what gets him engagement anymore

craggy vapor
#

In a perfect world, manga authors can draw manga on their own terms. Without the gun on their head from greedy corporations.

wet condor
#

Honestly Oda probably has a lot of pull at Jump

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Like if he really wanted to, they'd orient around his scheduling

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But Oda likes getting that chapter out every week

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I know you're just speaking generally tho

craggy vapor
wet condor
#

Yeah

ashen perch
#

its the opposite where he's being FORCED to do less

wet condor
#

Told me just the other day

ashen perch
#

he doesnt want the breaks, he doesnt want to be limited to 17 pages per week

wet condor
#

Yeah

ashen perch
#

he wants to be doing 30 pages straight every week

muted hedge
#

Oda is by all means a workaholic

ashen perch
#

Oda said, "If I'm allowed to draw 30 pages each week, I'll soon finish submitting them". Editor said Oda spends much time on deciding how to cram his ideas into 17 pages

#

editors are the ones who are forcing him to work less right now

wet condor
#

which is better for his health

ashen perch
#

yeah

muted hedge
#

thankfully, otherwise it would be a deathcase for his health

wet condor
#

Part of me wants Oda to just do what he wants but I'm glad that the editors are there as well to keep him from working himself to death

muted hedge
#

agreed

#

i think he should take as many breaks as it is required for him to be able to steadily work on the manga to the degree where his health allows him to finish it

#

i mean most other manga authors take plenty longer and more breaks than Oda does, so i think it's unfair when the fandom constantly hammers him for taking breaks most of which he doesn't want to take but is forced to take like Arsal said

ornate tartan
#

chapter week

craggy vapor
#

lets see if I can resist reading spoilers this week

lavish breach
#

So now that regeneration is confirmed to be just be bypassed by haki, is kaido above the gorosei

coral vapor