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Why did Oda make it so that Yamato was born in the same year as Momonosuke, just like Kaido was born in the same year as Oden?
Another good example of how OP fans don’t deserve OP
Niggas was hot we didn’t see the prejudice in Wano get addressed
Two make them mirrors of each other I guess
Kaido/Oden enemies
Momo/Yamato friends
Yamatos cover story does and people say “nothing happened”
That’s all?
What more do you think there will be to it?
No, not will be
It was followed through in Wano
Literally
Like, it narratively did something in Wano
Hmm I wonder why this cover story about life in Wano after Kaido left is showing people eating a lot
Could it be that Kaido starved them for 20 years
Reminds me of my nephew
Feeling extra condescending today aren't we
under the radar
we had a cover story of Yamato m8.
Just today?
Hajrudin laugh is Diga
Loki laugh is Doga
and keep Yamato away from the story as long as possible, I don't want to hear more fucking powerscaling or gender discourses again regarding them.
I dont look at what you do every day. There's other folks to talk to.
By under the radar, I mean the widespread response to Yamato shows most folk didnt engage with what Oda was using him for
Sadly Yamato is definitely showing up for the final war
No offense to buggy
But his response to my question kinda showed exactly that
There’s a point to Yamato and Momo being born in the same year, just like Kaido and Oden were
back to the inevitable gender and powerscaling discourses Yamato produced, how fun
Oda can intend to use anyone in any way he wants with the story. But people aren't obligated to like that on an objective level.
Was the answer not valid? The reason could just be that simple
That was just people being stupid on both counts
Kaido, Oden, Momonosuke and Yamato are jam packed with details that make them foils to each other
Momo and Yamato are meant to reflect and contrast each other ans their parents to highlight why they failed
? Momo definitely does but how does Yamato
Prime example: Kaido and Oden both had individualist mindsets but in different ways. Kaido believed in survival of the fittest, Oden just wanted to shoulder everything himself
Yuderon... what
Twitter messed up the translation
I don’t really see how Yamato correlates
Momonosuke makes sense, they make pretty explicit comparisons to oden and how Momo doesn’t end up following in his stead
Which ends up being what saves Wano
Yamato and how the audience is meant to perceive them doesn’t really grow beyond the first few chapters
Yamato doesn’t make any hard decisions that or character defining moments that change the course of the arc beyond what any akazaya would have done
Like if you’re seeing something I’m not then please elaborate
might just have two different interpretations
one thing i like about yamato is how she didn't join the straw hats. not because i dislike but because it goes full circle. the entire reason why wano fell to ruin was because oden left to join a pirate crew, and left his land to get raided
but with yamato staying to protect wano
we avoid falling into the same mistake
but it also sort of leads into the carrot trap
Kaido and Oden were both unruly and powerful children who were cast out of their homes before eventually joining legendary pirates. Yamato ans Momonosuke were both born on pirate ships, and then brought to Wano afterward.
Momo and Yamato both ate their fruits unintentionally due to hunger while trapped on an unfamiliar island.
But there’s also Yamato adopting Oden’s identity while Momonosuke ends up being a dragon just like Kaido.
Yamato inherited Kaido’s bodily might, but has a heart unlike his father. Momonosuke didn’t inherit any of Oden’s might, but he inherited his heart, courage, and love for Wano.
Kaido forced Oden into a situation where Oden ended up dying because he tried to shoulder everything on his own. Yamato encourages Momonosuke to trust in the allies he recruited and talks him out of sacrificing himself just to save Wano.
When Kaido is beating on Yamato, he projects his own experiences onto Yamato. Kaido was a child soldier, so he’s made Yamato fight since he was a child. Kaido was imprisoned and tortured, so he imprisoned Yamato and tortured him. Kaido was betrayed due to people fearing his strength, he didn’t trust people; Kaido isolates Yamato and attempts to pit the samurai against him.
The point of them having these details is to plant the thought process of comparing and contrasting them in the readers’ minds
forced to stay on an island when they wanted to explore the seas
Kaido is mighty and powerful and he loses
though in yammy's case it wasnt really forced (narratively maybe)
Yamato inherits his might and succeeds
That prompts you to look at what Yamato had that Kaido didn’t
In tjis case, it’s Yamato maintaining an altruistic heart
Unlike Kaido who was a savage and individual minded
You see the same with Oden and Momo
Oden was mighty but failed in spite of it
Momo is a wimp but succeeded
So what does Momo have that oden didnr? Momos willingness to accept help
Oden, much like Kaido, always wanted to do things on his own
Kinda the whole point of Kaido fighting up on the roof alone with no one coming to help nim while Luffy constantly has allies or crewmates carrying him around when he’s tired and feeding him, etc
Taking back the protector of wano's fruit and leadership position and becoming the type of man his father could be proud of.
Thats basically the gist of it
We've seen in Op refusing help and now having a reliable team leads to doom.
Momo had the scabbard and support from all the yakuza.
So worked out in his case
Unlike Oden, Momo actually leaned into having assistance
Momo and Yamato share that similarity
Unlike their fathers who wanted to shoulder their conflicts on their own, they both yearned for companionship and help
Momo HAD to because he couldn’t rely on brawn like Oden could
I mean yeah that's the main difference its why the panel exists of oden refusing help from the roger pirates.
Shouldering everything got him killed
My point is that Yamato and Kaido exist as part of this dynamic to make these details stronger
Both sets of father and sons are bound by these contrasts and similarities
And they have crossover where Yamato is similar to oden and Momo is similar to Kaido to emphasize the contrasts
Same reason there are differences between the fathers and sons
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Momonosuke did inherit odens strength, when he becomes an adult they specifically make mention of how similar he looks and how his body is comparable to that of oden when he ages up.
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Yamato didn’t encourage Momo into not sacrificing himself, if anything Yamato is encouraging Momo to fight at all, where his plan was for EVERYONE to yield to prevent the loss of more lives. It wasn’t a conflict of sacrifice vs trusting in allies, it was not giving up in general.
Yamato choosing to oppose his father for his entire life was a hard decision
? Not really?
Yamato decided this literally the moment they read the journal
Our first glimpse into Yamato as a 8 year old is opposing their father
And that’s the same year they decided to adopt odens identity
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That’s more than likely the dragon durability. And even if Momo’s adult body got stronger, he definitely didn’t inherit Oden’s strength. Oden was a physical monster from birth
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Momo was going to turn himself into Kaido to stop the war. Yamato talks him out of committing this act of sacrifice and his speech in doing so highlights to Momo that he has Luffy fighting for him, and he should rely on that ally’s help instead
Yes it is because Opposing Kaido meant getting his ass beat by Kaido
Yamato chose to endure that
Kaido’s MO is to intimidate, torture, or beat someone into compliance
Yamato resisted that
Brother they mentioned this while Momo was in base form, not dragon form lol
Momo was NOT gonna turn into Kaido to stop the war, I’m gonna need panels for this
Every time Kaido beat Yamato down, Yamato was making a choice to endure that again when he decides to tell Kaido no
And it was never portrayed as difficult for them to decide
It was never a conflict it was already definitive
The contrast is that Oden was born powerful while Momo wasn’t
Get with it
But Momo ends up inheriting the strength
It’s not like he remained a weakling forever
So the point doesn’t really make much sense when he does at some point between 8-28 gains odens physique
Especially since this seems like he naturally gained it
Rather than training
And I’m going to be real Yamato identifying as oden is a pretty poor plot point in general and is never given actual depth to explore who Yamato is as a person
It’s getting beaten by Kaido
Kaido is trying to kill you
Every time you say no
You know that’s coming each time you say no
And Yamato never expresses how difficult it is for them to do this?
It doesn’t matter
UNfun fact
the FBI had sent MLK letters telling him to kill himself
It kind of does lmao your argument is that he never inherited the strength, then it’s he didn’t have his strength at age 8 specifically
You need to be explicitly told that Kaido trying to beat you to death every day for 20 years is a difficult thing to endure?
My point is that Momo being born without strength while oden was born strong is a contrast DURING the Wano arc
Yeah? Because for some characters this kind of decision is inherent to them, and for others it’s a lot more difficult for them to commit and it becomes a defining moment once they do
I said to buggy, these contrasts were used for Wano
You are bringing up what may be true after that story concluded
Which went out the window when he gained his strength IN WANO
No it doesn’t because Momo gained that strength specifically because he was too weak as a child so he needed help
That still contrasts oden who was independent because was strong from childhood
Oh also
Except we have no idea when Momo would’ve gotten that strength
?
What is this supposed to prove
This goes completely against you saying he’s gonna pretend to be Kaido and sacrifice himself
I said he was gonna turn himself in
As in…turn yourself into to an authority
Not transform lmfao
Brother you said “Momo was going to turn himself INTO kaido”
What was I supposed to assume that meant 😭
Turning himself in means smth completely different
But whatever shite grammar but I get what you meant
That’s not him sacrificing himself though he’s basically having everyone surrender
This isn’t a situation where he surrenders and everyone goes free
He just sees fighting as pointless because everyone is going to die regardless, which is less of a sacrificial decision and more of a “our side is cooked let’s dip” decision
If Momo turned himself in to make a deal with kaido that would’ve been a more fair comparison
Also having a lot of parallels doesn’t really mean anything when that doesn’t actually develop Yamato into a character worth discussing or attributing to anything actually meaningful
You mad at me cause you misread me
How’s that my fault
Bruh idk what you even tryna argue at this point
lol the hell I will
What I said was correct
Get your reading up lil bro
Yo quick question
Shoot
If I said “Momo turned himself into Kaido” does this have the same meaning as “Momo turned himself in to Kaido”
You did just say the same thing
“In to” not “into”
Hmm
They're different but it's not a big deal
"
Into" (one word) shows movement, direction, or transformation (e.g., He went into the store, caterpillar into butterfly), while "in to" (two words) happens when "in" is part of a phrasal verb and "to" starts an infinitive verb (e.g., turn in to the police, come in to help). Think of "into" as a single concept for change/motion and "in to" as separate words for separate actions
Thank you lol
Into means becoming something though
I turned in to the police means I gave myself up to the police. I turned into the police means I morphed into the police
^^^
But it's a simple typo. Point it out and move on
Walked in to the room
Nah walked into the room
If someone gets upset about it being pointed out, maybe you shouldn't worry about what that person thinks
Yknow what fair
What started this if you don't mind me asking ?
It takes two bullheaded folks to get into a long argument about grammatical errors
Grammar piece ?
I hate grammer, spalling
Basically they were saying I’m illiterate for thinking they said Momo transformed into Kaido instead of giving himself up
is english your first language
Hope there’s no break after 1172
5 second google search brother
I mean we all know he turned himself into kaido so I don't understand the confusion there.
i was just askin
We also know that Momo was going to surrender too
Just for you I'll tell oda to take another break
you fucks are still in this Yamato gibberish? its been almost an hour now 🥀
thats how we roll in also manga
You right I gave too much time to that bum
No we're talking about something worse now
cyclical arguements that go nowhere
Keep their ass in onigashima
At least I can read
Grammer powerscaling discussions
drops are enabled, enjoy the show and get the free loot
Couldn’t believe my eyes
Oda should quit tbh take a break for a year 😊
niggas be like grammar this grammar that, i never needed it in the real world
Chapter so ass niggas arguing about grammar
Owarida the worst one piece chapter is better than 5 seconds of talking about bumato
if 10 million fireflies
wtf is bumato
Yamato

objectively better than the past 92 chapters
She ain’t ass
2 more years of their cover story bro?
Yamato is a baddie so they cannot be a fraud
Why are you rage baiting 💔
he got kaido in him, for sure ass! apple dont fall too far from the tree
I enjoyed the cover story
Yamato is rule 34 use only
ragebait nah, wanoslop and eggslop ruined odas legacy
elbaf put him back on the map
The most interesting part of the cover story is kozuki moria
Yamato + grammar discourse, what are we doing
But yeah Yamato and his cover story are both dope
Tama beating that smile user was a better moment
tama the toko victim
tama lowkey has an insane durability feat
I want Tama to scream city boy
Bruh not even like an hour ago the original clip of this moment appeared in my YouTube feed
I do fuck with Tama being stronger and seeing all them real niggas prosper and seeing them eat so much and the prejudice being tackled also Ulti and Pay Pay joining Yamato
you dont like egghead?
chapter was good
I think we all had bigger expectations about the cover story
It was fun
My favorite part was seeing Wano recovering, gaining new allies
I think too many people expected the Blackbeard fake out ending with them on the horizon or something, which would've soured the mood the cover story set up.
And yknow, would've completely just ruined it in general imo. Seeing all the payoff of reconstruction and flourishing after the events of Wano just to have a "And then Teech comes LMFAO" would just be stupid generally.
the moria reveal is still so silly
i’ve been saying that for so long
how do you do bb attacking wano without ruining the end of the arc
CG going to wano first
Like, people complaining about it being too long will be the same crowd going "Erm what was the point if Blackbeard comes and destroys everything anyways?"
COOK
You never win
I hope teach removes pluton totally stealthily
True
Thats where they meet moria
People underrate how cool it was to see Yamato walking around and seeing how everyone and everything handled the after events
Moria’s gonna visit wano now that kaido is gone
if he can do that with a giant battleship buried in the country then props to him
Yamato probably read about Moria in Oden’s journal
seeing the locals reaction to yamato was good
sort of addresses the whole cycle of hatred they have going on
Its a very cool cover story for this alone
Cross Guild will get their first poneglyph from Wano
Tama the Goat
@quiet ice this?
To put them in the race
They been mellow for too long now
Yamato thumbs up
They get moria (their poneglyph reader
) and pluton(crocodile is obsessed for some reason)
Yesss
couldn't they have just went a bit to the right instead of circling the whole island on the left
are they stupid
that's a really good question
Meeks that removes the fun of the cover story
Simply not have it at all. Or even a funnier notion
They get sent back home
Duke Dogstorm & Car Viper can let Buggy know they can find a poneglyph on Zou next
i put forward the idea that blackbeard sees dragon momo, mistakes him for kaido and runs
Pluton will be sneaked out by Caribou in an ha ah moment while the crew gets pushed back.
So everyone wins
Wano stays save, BBP gets humiliated but at least get Pluton on them assuming Caribou doesn't ditch them or whatever.
The Wano citizens can offer Mihawk some good wine
LMAO that would be hilarious
lmao
also now that yamato completed their wano journey they can go to elbaf and join the crew :)
Pluton is actually a cannon
Right right
Like the ones in Kirby
I think its a submarine
Nah its a submarine cannon
blasts into imu just as they strike down luffy
Where you go inside it and you can fly to your destination
A submarine with a cannon
What if Yamato joins Cross Guild? Same way Kaido was in Rocks Pirates
you know this isnt happening
i do
This is not the Oden way
but what if
Oh true but Oden’s family is in Cross Guild. Kozuki Moria
The Pirate of justice!
she would be the strongest member
for real
jack will reunite with ulti and yamato to form the new kaido pirates
he's dead
Bugging out

Isnt Jack like eternally drowning

you fell for the jack fake out
Like is he just eating moss at the bottom of the ocean
Zunesha joins Cross Guild next
Jack's a fishman so he'd be a rock for eternity :3
He dead, only one not shown anywhere
That way they’re safe from the flooding since Zunesha is so tall
My glorious Queen
Seeing her actually content on panel without any malice
ulti feels no remorse
I love her
what a cover story bro, we learned moria was a kozuki and that yamato unwillingly recruited the dino siblings, truly world-changing events
I too like when a cover story is more centralized into the world we just visited and how it recovers from the turmoil of a psychopath war monger
Who would be the one to say the crew’s full in Cross Guild
Not every cover story needs to tickle your ADHD bone
Sometimes its chill and thats fine.
The expectations of a BB invasion was way too high
do you guys think we'll get cutaways this arc?
I didn't like it being chill and far less interesting compared to the germa cover story 😭
I mean after the VP message
Might as well lmao
Prob
Yamato has not gained a single lb from this cover story
Extremely impressive
Metabolism scaling?
too strong
Yeah it was all right
meanwhile we have Usopp who was not too long ago a prime example of not having the metabolism and gained enough weight to be a qualified candidate of 600 pound life :d
he lost it like in like 2 days
I hope yall ready for when oda rewrites yasopp into being a great dad
Hes been trained ala Luffy
So thats exprcted
the Germa cover story was heat
That outweighs the meat he ate
Ate and left no crumbs 💅
Yasopp was actually out looking for medicine the whole time for uspps mom
Yassop was looking for the best doctor to help him
oh COOK
tbf, weight gain is often long term and not immediate
you need food to get energy
Yamato will not gain a single pound
Its going straight to her muscles
I wouldnt be surprised with his next return, hes literally Kaido shaped
Or Oden shaped, if you are more lore accurate
Yamato has been walking through the nation of Wano. Of course he will eat lots of food because he will be burning it as he walks which is a lot of activity
Ulti however is a slop fatass
LMMFAO
Eating copious amount of apples
Disgusting
Shes definitely going to have a Big Mon-like 50s
I would kiss her forehead
he doesn't know how to do that
what about mine marx
what about my forehead
Since you asked
A bedtime forehead skooch
Smooch
god is good
Don’t project
I ain't
its too late, the time to be a good dad is over
If oda has taught me anything is not to be a good father
The chances of dying are too high
nah oda hates the mothers more
Since im having Ulti fixation hour, I really like the brown coloring for her Dino here.
Personally feels a bit better than the green
cringe
So I need to get a wife so that it’s not me who pays the price
San Juan how come you dont have a wife yet
because you didn't say yes
Im waiting for my knight in shining armor
No it was the king telling Rebecca she had to marry him or some shit
you called?
Why am I being called out 
Well wouldnt you feel flattered
After all im saying this in a "wow San Juan is such a good guy im surprised he doesnt have one" sort of way
luffy got it
Allergic to bees
I win
Socrates came first
What if Imu gets love tapped by Luffy
I wish I did but that’s life
So end of elbaf or whatever we're getting cutaways. Who's first? Who needs to be included?
All the emperors need one I think. And bb and shanks might have the same one
Might see marines reacting to garp stuff but that isn't as guaranteed might come later
I hope we see Cross Guild adventures
Cross guild has been out for the longest they need it the most
I hope the next time we see them they have Kozuki Moria & Perona
I wonder if they’ll have a new outfit color scheme the same way Mihawk & Crocodile did.
I wasn’t expecting Mihawk to ditch the red & wear yellow instead
revs in the holy land
we need to see whats with them
True that is the direct cause to smarock leaving elbaf, it has the easiest link
It could work pretty well if sh win and imus like if only sham coulda stayed then we see why he couldn't
What if dragon tells shamrock he’s sorry he couldn’t save him
I think he'd be insulted by that
I’d love to see any of the scientists, from Neo mads, to vegapunk, to stussy, sentomaru, queen
True
Shamrock scares me
Evil Shanks smh
He seems competent too
I think you can metagame him being pulled out of elbaf to indicate he's very important
That it's too early for him to be resolved in any way
i feel like he's being set up as equal to shanks
so a shanks level figure working with gunkimu would be too much
I need a cutaway to Jesus Burgress killing more homeless bums on fullalead
And then claiming its part of his training
His belt being a championship belt is awesome
Glad they went back to basics
Wasn't a huge fan of the Dressrosa fit however it was fitting for the colosseum
Mhm
yall like one peice?
He looked strong during dressrosa too and extremely competent
I want Cross Guild
he got dogwalked in dressrosa
Got rotated
Unfortunately Oda hates ball
If we do a round of cutaways and cg isn't included I'm thinking 90% chance cg is focus of next arc
Hope we see him shirtless in the final war again
Not sure why he decided to put back the shirt
makes sense
His lariat was pretty sickkkk
It fries me how Sabo really broke this dudes skull
He brain was probably leaking like craY
He hasn’t fought that video game boss who has the vampire fruit tho
great, now I wanna listen to that soundtrack
Gym goals
It’s cool how elbaf looks like a nuclear bomb went off after we had the arc with the nuclear bomb scientist
franky blows up elbaf with a bomb confirmed
#ONEPIECE #THEORY
︀︀Do you think it is possible that St. Figarland Garling was once a good man?
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︀︀Perhaps when he met the mother of Shanks and Shamrock, he only had a Shallow Sea Pact, allowing him to retain his original personality. At that time, he may have believed he was a god, much like Harald did when he received the Deep Sea Pact and became a Holy Knight, viewing himself as a superior being under the direct influence of Imu.
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︀︀When Shanks and Shamrock were born during the God Valley Hunting Game, Garling likely received the Deep Sea Pact and became a Holy Knight himself. This event completely changed his personality; from then on, the only people he saw as a superior race were the Celestial Dragons or those of his own blood. Anyone else, such as his wife, was viewed as inferior and thus eliminated.
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︀︀Under Imu's influence, Xebec was reportedly ready to kill his own wife and son, so it is entirely possible that the same thing happened t…
imagine if
gargling redemption arc
the whole idea that the Celestial Dragons might be under the direct influence of Imu and that's why they're doing what they do... it intrigues me
War Land
I wanna make an OS reference
@runic dock IYKYK
IYKYK
I do not know
yes you do
Check it out
Chud son that I love
huh
It’s not even the same
good-guy-garling agenda 💔
i miss that copium but the theory completely ignores dialogue from garling in chapter 1158 lmao
We know thats your account mimi
Why are yo a mihawk fan
I see what you’re going for
Is he a top 5 blood fathers in one piece?
A bit off
if i alted it would be to glaze garling without shame 
i miss pre-GV garling UGH


Mihawk fans are rare fr
Jupiter will be fine he has smitty Werbenjagermanjensen buff
Should I be scared?
He was number 1
What does the German word mean?
I dunno. Maybe it does mean something I never thought to check
thats not very schandenfreude of you
Yes of course, bundestag
How does he compare to the other admirals?
just below Imu
above most commanders
Noland didn’t have haki otherwise he could’ve survived his execution
oneshot material
How do you feel the admirals rank?
Just above imu
For me, I feel it's Noland > Akainu > Blackbeard > Kizaru > Aokiji > Fujitora > Ryokugyu
i'm so sorry but what is that coloring
I don't know, I found it
Don krieg is the pirate fleet admiral
It's true.
You forgot orlumbus
Therefore, there are 7 admirals currently alive.
It's true, this is quite a hidden pull.
Hidden pull?
All admirals in One Piece in total:
Noland, Blackbeard, Olumbus, Don Krieg, Sengoku, Akainu, Kizaru, Aokiji, Fujitora, Ryokugyu, Kong, RocksVictim
There have been 12 admirals in total thus far. @muted hedge
Excluding Zephyr because he's non-canon.
Of course it’s a Mihawk fan
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN
It's okay mimi 

The 13th Admiral shall appear in the next arc
WDYM 😭
@cloud adder How would you rank all the admirals at strength, let's say in their prime?



all primes:
noland >> zephyr >> kong >> don krieg > BB > akainu > aokiji > kizaru > fujitora >>>>> rocksvictim >> Ryokugyu > midgoku > orlumbus

your turn 
Kong > Noland > Don Krieg > Akainu > Blackbeard > Kizaru > Aokiji > Bumgoku > Zephyr > Fujitora > Ryokugyu > RocksVictim > Olumbus
!kong
do you think kong is of the monkey d?
WHY ARE YOU PUTTING MY GOAT ZEPHYR BELOW MIDGOKU 😭
What’s with the orlumbus hate?
dressrosa killed the stocks of so many of it's chars
“My goat zephyr” Mihawk fans 
WTFFFF 
wtf is this zephyr disrespect
have you even seen film z 💔
😭 😭 😭
film z is the most canon of the films if you HAD to fit one of the films into the canon
I own the volumes and there’s no mention of it at any moment or zephyr
He's not of the fraudulent Monkey D clan
He's the monkey himself
He's HIM
One piece fan arts are such a mystery to me
Sun Wukong DF holyyyyy
He was lowkey getting thrown by the Goat @mighty gust zoro
This is from OP Fanon
get your eyes checked 😭
Donk E. Kong is crazy
but have you considered this hmmmm
Insane Zephyr downscale
I don’t care what oda does during his breaks. Doesn’t make those movies canon. If it’s not in the volumes I’m not interested
theres no downscale because Zephyr hasnt made his present time appearance yet, Oda is saving best admiral for final war 
HES SO COOL
Fuck I forgot
14 admirals in total

Zephyr and Smoker the only navy ppl actively using a sea prism weapon, theyre so goated
noooo unlucky 13 was a cool thing to look forward to
Shiki is a cool concept character though
I just wish oda had saved him for later in the actual story
Rather than making him weak AF in the film
real
prison breaking after doing a double amputation is kinda peak
i dont understand why oda didnt let the films be completely non-canon
He doesn’t like aspects of films or canon reveals being sprinkled in them
yeah i know that bit
oda could solve his own problem by letting the films being completely non-canon
let the film villains be completely new chars and let the film writers connect them to the existing world in whatever way since it wont matter for the actual canon
basically what stampede and gold did
It’s a business and making a character canon means more money
I'm fine with villain characters being characters that exist canonically in certain cases like Bullet, Uta
The problem with shiki is that he's a very relevant character being a rocks pirate that's still alive
Using him for a movie where he's portrayed much weaker than he should be just seems like a waste when he could have appeared in the main story
He still can it'd just be weird
erm, bullet and canon in the same sentence 

Gold did that well
And I do like tesoro
tesoro's flashback was peak
zephyr and tesoro are my secret canon darlings
whats the full panel for the left pic
“You are the moon unaware of the dawn”
Look at Saul’s index finger
If it’s a lunar phases then he’s pointing at the half moon
“Those of the half moon dreamed”
its the same symbol from kuma's church
Yea
i never considered that rather than it just being a sun symbol, that it could be the earth surrounded by moons, cool way to have the 3 major elements appear altogether
These families could be connected to different moon phases
The amatsuki wear the waning crescent moon symbol
The Kozuki wear the waxing crescent moon symbol
damn, i wanted to connect garling to the waning crescent
There’s no Moon God

Just Moon People
Bb moon stuff
Blackbeard was sitting under a crescent moon
wait, talking about moon ppl, eneru can be the moon god
if BB never sleeps, are his shenanigans just the consequences of extreme sleep deprivation hmmmm
Well the moon blocking out the sun probably works pretty well too
Never sleeping is still pretty mysterious
As far as we know, rocks didn't have that trait
And he had it before dark fruit so it's not that
Blackbeard is special
I think his lineage factor is different
Inherited neither his father or mother’s hair color
But it must be something other than lineage if neither mom or dad had it
A recessive gene is 25% that's too common
It would be like a unique mutation or something
HIIII
A pirate walks into a bar with a big ship's wheel down his pants
The bartender asks "do you have a ship's wheel in your pants?
The pirate answers "aye, it's drivin' me nuts"
You know what kind of phone a pirate uses?
Idk? What kind
An aye phone
Nice I will tell this joke to all my friends to bother them
Do you know where do pirates get their hooks?
Second hand stores
(Totally did not google)

@candid slate what happened when bluebeard fell into the red sea?
He became purple beard 
No/! He got marooned

😭 okay I think I had enough of these

I was talking about Loki, but I was somewhat close
Nice
Midgardsormr, Fenrir, Nidhogg, Fafnir….
I wonder if Mihawk has a DF weapon
I wouldnt want that really
I hope he does, and it's one that keeps talking to him, like one of those funny mascots
snarf snarf fruit
Mihawk having an overly cute DF weapon would be hilarious
i don't know, feels like Ragnir already did that trope now
but ragnir doesn't talk
it's not the same
i've always associated Yoru with an owl of some kind
"oooh boy mihawk, I dunno know about this one... I think we might be in trouble"
Mihawk still hasn't paid taxes on that island he owns
Then again it likely got seized when he left
Alongside the baboons
wonder why Oda didn't show his actual departure
i imagine that Mihawk did one swoosh with Yoru to clear the way and get to where Crocodile was
oh yeah, I forgot the baboons
yoru has the baboon fruit
Baboon fruit mythical model wukong
doesn't have to be mythical. just a baboon is enough
I just want him to hold a monkey butt
and mihawk himself has the chimp chimp fruit
wouldn't fit him, lol
zoan fruits are a cool concept
but then it makes u ask questions like
how does your will align to that of a fkn bison
I'm just saying it because people would hate it
dalton in this case
oh
push through no matter what
become the Juggernaut essentialy
I often come with suggestions and theories based on what I would hate myself
lol
I suppose you’d have to be like how they act
Lucci is bloodthirsty, got a predator
Or maybe like Kaku and just love the animal
Thats why he’s with the humandrils
Human human fruit model emo boy
True
gives him the ability to ignore his bullies and take damage over time instead
I wouldn’t want bum ass marines bothering me either
I wonder if mihawk is supposed to be death itself
Or death personified * like a grim reaper of some sorts
I think forging a black blade is tied heavily to it
To death
Mihawk is a Dracula man
We met Ryuma as a zombie
Zoro has all that death stuff going on
He's just a dude
probably
“Just a dude” and we talking bout one piece💔💔💔💔
Boy how do i tell you
lol
Imu descendant but just a dude
Rayleigh’s epithet is the name of the god of the underworld
what you're proposing is John Nerona
Thats thing he could be a son or a clone but like.. kid mihawk looked like he was going through it
I think he was a potential slave that got saved because of his sword skills at a young age
Just rough training
Boy was training hard
Or his fam are CDs
He doesn't look poor
Dark King 😏
i think the idea that Dracule were a Celestial family is still cool
though one which didn't agree with the others
Holy knight training
But yea i think the ring eyes dont come from imu, but from yoru
St. Dracule Mihawk has a ring to it
for sure, it would also explain Shanks rivalry
I wonder if Shanks is the one who betrayed Mihawk
“Kill all swordsmen, mihawk”
to be honest it could be that Shanks chose to go up to Marijoa which Mihawk saw as a betrayal, though it does feel like it would be more within the Marines
Yeah true, explains why he was the navy hunter
if mihawk was actually a CD why would he be at roger execution in casual clothes
He left
this is like the nami CD theories
I doubt mihawk would actually like the CD life
He got old and strong enough to leave
well, Mihawk beng a Celestial Dragon has a lot more credibility than Nami being one
Mihawk deadass calls niggas rabbits and worms, allat freak shit like the CDs do
Oda’s depiction of his kid does too
nami was found in a battlefield as a child
she has a bigger chance of being a world noble
Yeah could have been during a human hunt
Bellemere was a marine there like dragon was
She saved Nami and Makino is her name?
Nojiko
i think it would be likely but a lot of fans wouldn’t like her being world noble blood possibly
i mean who care what the fans like
to be honest, Oda should just run with what he likes
but the story always reiterates nature vs nurture
if it was up to the fans no one would be connected to anyone and everyone would be stronger than Joyboy
shanks and shamrock is the biggest example
he always does, he doesn’t even use social media
so nothing he does in the story is swayed by what the fandom says😂
thank goodness for that
when people create their own headcanon and then get mad that oda didn’t do what they decided themselves
whole time he never saw any of that shit😂
he only talks to fans thru sbs and things of that nature
if it was up to the fans one piece would just be dragonball
why do yall think every chapter it seems like oda is killing a previously popular believed agenda left and right
honestly yeah
and I'd probably drop the series
at times Oda probably regrets making it a shonen
What you think of world strongest swordsman
Ion know bout alllat
Because that gaban ignoring sanji shit still get brought up from time to time
I forced myself through dragonball z, naruto and bleach just so that I could say I have read them
hated it tho
u don’t remember ppl saying roger and garp was trying to stop rocks from saving his family for 2 weeks😂😂😂
cause the whole agenda thing has grown to the point that there's an agenda for every single action that someone could take
i enjoy Dragon Ball a lot, i just don't want One Piece to be Dragon Ball
that goes for any other series as well
Yea
I was niggas

Got ignored 
Did i believe it? Fuck no but it was hilarious
I liked the start of the series, I lost interest a bit before it became z
yeah ik u was jokin, but some mfs were deadass
same but I like One piece for completely different reasons
did you enjoy Daima?
They dk my struggle
Daima harkens back a lot to the original feeling of Dragon Ball
never watched
i think you should, it's very nostalgic for the original idea
of adventure more so than action
I didn’t let what ppl say online influence my opinion on Bleach either
I thought it was very nice
I do enjoy adventure
Might watch
Third eye open
You said it
Tbh not a bad idea
one piece ended up my favorite after i read the manga from the beginning
I realized most people might not get the reference, so I posted the pic as well
a lot of ppl are hesitant to start because of its length
skill issue
For my soon to be goat? Always
I def didnt remember it
Niggas tried calling my boy the old gen buggy like he aint beat most of em in davy back fights
Tsk tsk tsk
GLORK!!!
nasty sound for an opening eye
Why is it so moist
she kept it closed for a long time, enough time to moisten and thicken the slime
Oh wow
No he does not.
krill logia
you turn into a herd of krill
sick
i hate when you roam around for hours in a game, thinking you're in the right location only to end up finding out that the right location was at the other side of the map
Nami being a CD would probably be useless to her character I imagine
And useless to the story because we have that explored in Shanks and Corazon just fine
I know Oda wanted to do something with Nami's past in Strong World but I feel like there's just no need for that
Only SH i would say is likely to be related to a CD is sanji
Because if ryuma was allied with the D clan it could somehow fit
we already know he is related to Judge though
and his mother wasn't any special either
if the Vinsmokes aren't defected Celestial Dragons, though that's a bit silly
True, but outta all the strawhats, id say sanji
nami and brook still have a chance
The Giants and Wano are connected but they never mention each other in the manga
True i forgot about brook
Is it a Raizo type of thing?
brook is a holy knight
Brook would be a recruited Celestial Dragon if anything, i don't think he is a pure Celestial Dragon
I think brook was a royal guard
yeah
no hes evil
Same I think he was one of the holy land guards or a holy knight
I dont think he was ever a cd but his mom could've been a victim
Don’t speak too soon
Uh oh
this is just a baseless idea but what if Brook had a lover who was a Celestial Dragon and that's who Gunko was born
Brook forgot his armament and observation
Brook was canonically a royal guard, but to whom we don't know.
we already know he has a loose connection to the cd through gunko
That would be insane
He lost haki when he died 
But i think brook was a father/uncle figure
I agree
brook can’t be domi reversid
the nga already dead😂🤣
hes already domi'd
didnt you read last chapter hes fighting loki
i don't think Brook should return from being a skeleton as that's a key part of his design
I could definitely see Brook being a blade of god
What
spooky scary skeleton
brook with haki
they shiver down your spine
holy knight brook😂😂
Biggest plot twist in one piece
Random skeleton turns out to be connected to the king of the world
Died and lost his abyss
Shanks looks so cool here bro
shanks sword changed
the hilt on gryphon and the hilt on the sword on god steel shanks is completely different
Upgraded to a devil fruit sword
The disease that killed them off had Conq, thats how it broke through the regen ofc
Only blade of god he wouldn’t have regen yet 
Manmayer Brook
Think about it on a serious note


