also-manga

[vital heart]

Should really just be two

Loki Luffy only

[deep chasm]

well the panel reference is 3 people is all

[vital heart]

Ok

What about

Loki

Luffy

Usopp

[deep chasm]

Usopp is looking a bit fraudulent

gunko loki luffy is best

[deep chasm]

go ahead cross out 1171

[sage temple]

[trim lily]

what if he did something crazy this chap we just arent aware of yet

[spice cairn]

What if Ussop died off panel

[sage temple]

Yeah what if Otama actually killed Imu just now and we didn't see it

[deep chasm]

[sage temple]

That would explain the Draugr falling down

Because Otama killed them too

[trim lily]

anything is possible

[dense rapids]

People should realize by now Usopp only does stuff in a arc’s final act

[odd rune]

@deep chasm

[sage temple]

Nothing really stands out as a sniper from him compared to other SHs and Wan Augur in the final acts of each arc

[deep chasm]

[vital heart]

USOPP

[vital heart]

WILL

TAME

RAGNIR

[spice cairn]

BONNEY
WILL
TAME
RAGNIR

[deep chasm]

imagine fans back in dressrosa theorizing next arc usopp would master observation haki and whatnot

imagine how they feel

[vital heart]

Next arc was Zou 💀

Then WCI with no Usopp

Then Wano with Usopp being a bitch

Then Egghead with Usopp doing nothing

Then now Elbaf with only 1 cool panel

[odd rune]

What was the cool panel

[spice cairn]

I think WCI was good partially because of no Ussop actually.

[trim lily]

don’t worry jinbe’s plan will resolve all of this

[odd rune]

I know there is one cool panel but tell me what you think it is

[deep chasm]

lol

[deep chasm]

jinbe's plan:
Dont be hasty zoro will be here soon

[odd rune]

Wrong

[spice cairn]

Cool Panel

Its literally him shitting his pants after a failed kill

Meeks...

[odd rune]

The page of Luffy and usopp seeing Elbaf

That's the one

Peak

[vital heart]

This is the other one

I'm thinking of

[odd rune]

Yea

[vital heart]

Yeah ok u just copied me

lol

Go fuck u

[odd rune]

Thats the one

[vital heart]

Jk

lol

[spice cairn]

Wow.

Thats a bit mean

You got to be nice

[trim lily]

meek gets meaner every day

[spice cairn]

A chapter a day makes Meek meaner

[deep chasm]

it will be so crazy if the whole arc goes by and usopp actually doesnt do anything shocking

[vital heart]

Elbaf ends in ch 1200 - 1210 (range).

[odd rune]

Oda really wrote the ten best characters in the series and then only gave 4 of them relevant attention

[vital heart]

I highly doubt that Usopp will do anything within the next ~30 chaps

[spice cairn]

I wouldn't mind.

[vital heart]

Agree

[trim lily]

it’d be so funny

[deep chasm]

I wouldnt care either but thatd be crazy

[spice cairn]

The real cool stuff starts once he fights Augur.

Otherwise this isnt his arc

[deep chasm]

atp I want augur to win

[odd rune]

The cope only gets pushed further

[deep chasm]

cuz usopp just sucks

[trim lily]

augur deserves to win

[sage temple]

Terrible honestly

[spice cairn]

Van Augur will just grab him by the nose atp

[odd rune]

The strawhats will have their moment against the Blackbeard pirates right

Like that's the time right

[trim lily]

sorry another 8 chapters to zoro

[deep chasm]

how is this guy beating the teleporter who can snipe a bird thats not even visible

[trim lily]

brook and franky can get like 4 panels maybe

[odd rune]

At this point the grand fleet is more infamous than the majority of the straw hats

[deep chasm]

oda gonna cook up some bs

[dense rapids]

Man I’m so ready for the next arcs

I legit don’t know what’s about to happen

[sage temple]

Oh yeah Luffy allows Otama to punch him such a cool Otama panel

[clever idol]

If sanji gets setup to unlock coc and zoro gets setup to master his but usopp does nothing the whole arc then hey. Monster Trio strikes again

[vital heart]

All thats left for Usopp in the story is to:

• Tame Ragnir
• Beat Augur with Ragnir (Easy)
  - Maybe beat a Gorosei (Ju Peter) in the final war, if not, it'll be S-Flamingo adult version

@odd rune @clever idol @sage temple @dense rapids @deep chasm

[trim lily]

i think it’s a safe guess that sanji will get acoc here

[deep chasm]

I think usopp atp is just gonna rally some giants or something

[spice cairn]

Van Augur with copious amount of caffeine vs EoS Ussop

Who wins?

[trim lily]

surely he won’t just do nothing against the knights

[deep chasm]

or help fight them in domi reversi form

[clever idol]

I dont want ragnir in the hands of usopp man

Terrible idea

Give him Hagnir or some shit

[deep chasm]

usopp with ragnir aesthetically would be stupid

[trim lily]

it’d be more fun than what he does now

[sage temple]

Ragnir goes against what Ussop has been built up upon. And it's also funny that Ussop fans will use his character buildup to say he'll do crazy shit.

Ussop would literally do zero work in using the hammer and it kind of tones down his bravery and makes it really lame based on how he works best when he's given his own time to shine and not depending on others(Ragnir's sentience) as much. Also the fact that you guys compare his previous hammers to Ragnir is kinda lame in the same way. Ussop has almost always been forced to build courage & build his strength up to succeed and using Ragnir would be like an antithesis of that.

Also if the fruit has been passed down between royal families, so would Ragnir. And it's just kind of illogical to take Loki's own inheritance that Oda gives importance to constantly and give it to Ussop who wouldn't even be using the hammer, he'd just be touching it at that point since the hammer moves by itself. This is the same reason why it wouldn't make sense for Ussop to eat a DF as well btw.
Also it's kind of annoying when people are so inclined to take stuff from Loki lmao his fruit, his hammer, his importance, etc.
This is why it would fit Ussop a lot better to use Stansen's hammer instead of Loki's who's given it by inheritance.

[dense rapids]

It’s either Usopp will get a moment or he’ll get Domi Reversi and get a moment with his demon army

[trim lily]

[clever idol]

Why would a sniper get a hammer as a powerup

[deep chasm]

usopp should look like an ant next to a building if hes with ragnir

[odd rune]

He'll manipulate the environment around him so that augur has limited places to teleport by predicting where augur will teleport with observation haki, and then pre-fire the only remaining locations augur can teleport, guaranteeing a hit on him

[dense rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/wesker-albert-albert-wesker-resident-evil-resident-evil-4-gif-5143688443782660001

[vital heart]

All thats left for Usopp in the story is to:

• Tame Ragnir
• Beat Augur with Ragnir (Easy)
  - Maybe beat a Gorosei (Ju Peter) in the final war, if not, it'll be S-Flamingo adult version

[deep chasm]

so just for that reason

[trim lily]

i mean…

[clever idol]

It wouldnt

[trim lily]

look at all of pre ts usopp

[vital heart]

Howd you type that so fast?

[odd rune]

I should write one piece fights

[spice cairn]

Its Ussop hating hours

[sage temple]

Because of him using the ton hammers a few times

[deep chasm]

[spice cairn]

[clever idol]

Yea as a gag

[odd rune]

It's actually smart c'mon

[clever idol]

Ragnir isnt a gag

[vital heart]

SOCRATES THINKS THAT USOPP WILL GET STANSENS HAMMER OVER RAGNIR

lOL

LOL

[clever idol]

[vital heart]

GOODBYE

LOLL

[deep chasm]

no youre probably right I just dont even want usopp to win atp

[dense rapids]

🤣🤣🤣

[odd rune]

Like usopp just puts a bouncy trampoline on all the places around him so that it's impossible for augur to teleport there

[sage temple]

I wrote a paragraph for idiot theories like this so I don't have to go through a process of a long conversation

[dense rapids]

Socrates just started reading in Elbaph so ofc he will think that

[odd rune]

And then fires at the few locations he didn't cover

[spice cairn]

Ussop is getting the slingshot from one of the Kindergarden giants

[deep chasm]

lol

[vital heart]

No chance. Ragnir is meant for Usopp in the end game. He will shoot nuts to guide the trajectory of Ragnir

[dense rapids]

Usopp will feed Ragnir pop greens

[odd rune]

I would also be so chill if usopp didn't fight augur and supported in some other meaningful way like Dressrosa

That was awesome

[sage temple]

SOCRATES THINKS THAT IF USOPP GETS A HAMMER THIS ARC, HE'D EITHER MAKE HIS OWN OR REDESIGN STANSEN'S

[spice cairn]

Augur and Ussop will simply just play chess

[trim lily]

[sage temple]

Nice try tho

[dense rapids]

Naw man we need the Strawhats vs BBPs 1v1s

[sage temple]

U were close

Almost there

[trim lily]

usopp loses this too unfortunately

[vital heart]

Like that one OS character and that other OS character? IYKYK. If you wanna know what im talking about, DM me.

[trim lily]

augur gives off the vibes of someone who tries hard at chess

[odd rune]

I would prefer this just for the attention usopp gets obviously but I don't think we absolutely need it for it to be good

[near scroll]

One Piece is often praised as one of the greatest anime and manga series of all time, yet for many viewers it falls short in fundamental ways that make it difficult to enjoy. One of the most common criticisms is its excessive length and pacing. With over a thousand episodes, the story progresses at a painfully slow rate, often stretching simple plot points across dozens of episodes. This bloated structure can make the series feel repetitive and exhausting, especially when compared to other anime that deliver tighter, more focused narratives.
Another major issue is tonal inconsistency. One Piece frequently shifts between serious themes such as oppression, slavery, and death, and exaggerated cartoon humor that undermines emotional weight. Dramatic moments are often interrupted by slapstick gags or absurd character reactions, making it hard to take the stakes seriously. While some fans appreciate this blend, others find it jarring and immersion breaking.
The art style and character designs are also polarizing. Many characters have exaggerated proportions or repetitive design tropes that can feel unappealing. Female characters, in particular, are often criticized for lacking visual diversity and sharing nearly identical body types. This weakens immersion and reduces the sense of creativity in the world.
Additionally, the power system can feel inconsistent. Characters sometimes survive injuries that should clearly be fatal, reducing tension and making conflicts feel meaningless. When consequences are ignored, battles lose emotional impact.
Finally, the sheer commitment required to reach the best parts of the story is unreasonable for many viewers. A series should be engaging early on, not require hundreds of episodes of patience. While One Piece has strengths, its pacing issues, tonal clashes, inconsistent stakes, and divisive style make it an overrated experience for many.

[clever idol]

This cam still be a thing its just theyre both playing support against the othet

[odd rune]

I'm not hinging my enjoyment based on that y'know

[sage temple]

Ragnir's trajectory doesn't need to be guided in the first place that's the thing

Lmao

You don't understand that for one

[clever idol]

Usopp os thwarting van augurs support and vicr versa essentially

[sage temple]

No point in speaking to you about anything else if you don't understand Ragnir's sentience

Lmao

[near scroll]

why would usopp steal lokis weapon 😭 im crine

[dense rapids]

It’s not stealing

[clever idol]

How could he even

[spice cairn]

https://i.redd.it/kwm51qe141ya1.gif

[dense rapids]

It’s about who Ragnir chooses

[sage temple]

This whole thing just comes from people wanting Loki to get downscaled

Ngl

[near scroll]

and why would ragnir choose bumsopp over glorious nonchalant loki

[dense rapids]

Bro Usopp wielding a mjolnir hammer has been a thing since 2008

[sage temple]

No it isn't, considering Harald would've gotten Ragnir if he made it far enough

[barren token]

Why would chatgpt say this...

[trim lily]

you’re right this is all a grand conspiracy to tarnish the reputation of loki

[odd rune]

Usopp is going to get conquerors haki

[trim lily]

sadly he might

[spice cairn]

He used OdaGTP

Offbrand slop

[sage temple]

Either way it doesn't make much sense for him to use Ragnir

[barren token]

He will be using Ragnir

[sage temple]

Read this and you might understand why

[spice cairn]

Ussop will use Ragnir for 2 seconds

And everyone will clap like seals

[dense rapids]

[barren token]

Hes not going to get it forever

[trim lily]

[sage temple]

I'm not really gonna go into specifics for it though

[odd rune]

Usopp will die

[barren token]

But he will be using it

[sage temple]

You're admitting to coping?

Well that makes more sense

[spice cairn]

What if Ussop just jumps on Gunko and just blows up?

[sage temple]

This does seem like cope to have Ussop get an upgrade

Lmao

[odd rune]

There's nothing hinging on usopp being the one to stand up here y'know

Like I get there doesn't have to be but

[trim lily]

usopp goomba stomp tech

[sage temple]

The same thing as the last time Ussop blew up Gunko would happen

[odd rune]

It would be surprising at this point if usopp did something other than what he has already done

[sage temple]

Anyways can't wait to see Loki's fruit

I hope it's awakened

[odd rune]

That could also change who knows but like rn I don't see it

[sage temple]

Doesn't quite look awakened here though

Unless Oda doesn't draw shadows for awakening clouds

[trim lily]

it’d be a bit strange if loki was awakened 2s after eating his fruit

[sage temple]

Would be kinda weird if he were awakened the second he ate it

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-james-doakes-erik-king-stare-staring-gif-1343162792415382650

[trim lily]

i kind of hope he’ll have black awakening clouds if he is awakened now

as a final fuck you from oda

[sage temple]

Me too

It would match the aesthetic too

[spice cairn]

Hes going to have Grey awakening cloud

[sage temple]

Imagine it's purple

Lol

What if he IS a cloud

[near scroll]

it would be cool if lokis fruit had ties to yggdrassil and ragnir just chills on top when loki transofmrs into a tree

[trim lily]

some kinda cloud logia

[spice cairn]

Bro wants Loki to be chronically addicted to lean

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/say-that-again-gif-968943876633031890

[spice cairn]

Enough purple man

[trim lily]

[sage temple]

Lmao

[fallen meteor]

[unkempt sable]

Purple man

[trim lily]

finally the fnaf and one piece collab we’ve been waiting for

[sage temple]

Ragnir having all the elements of Yggdrasil, Loki has Yggdrasil itself?

Yggdrasil is Elbaph so it can't be

[dense rapids]

How many arcs you guys think we have left

[sage temple]

6 7

[spice cairn]

We have 4 arcs

[unkempt sable]

More than 4

[deep chasm]

4 sounds fair

[trim lily]

3

[spice cairn]

Lodestar, Vira, Diary of a Wimpy Loki, One Piece

[dense rapids]

Lodestar/Laugh Tale
Final War
Epilogue

Those are the ones for sure we’re getting

[trim lily]

lodestar, laughtale, war

i guess if you count epilogue

[vital heart]

One Piece will end on Chapter 1356

[sage temple]

Lol

[vital heart]

I wish I could be there, at the end, with you guys

I will not be here any longer by that point.

[trim lily]

rip meek

[vital heart]

I will miss you all.

[spice cairn]

Loki shared more tea over events he wasnt there for more than the Lola stuff

Like brother

[trim lily]

imagine how much more we could’ve gotten if we didn’t spend 8 chapters on rocks

[spice cairn]

^

Rocks unironically ruined it

[deep chasm]

that is a take

[dense rapids]

Rocks was the best thing that happened to one piece

[spice cairn]

That was Big Mom.

[deep chasm]

we had to get to know about rocks at some point

[dense rapids]

2027 will be legendary

[spice cairn]

Which was at least FMI.

[dense rapids]

Year of Rocks

[trim lily]

i would’ve much rather it be later

[vital heart]

@deep chasm yo

why arent u a mod anymore

u keep changing ur status

[trim lily]

we really did not need god valley here

[deep chasm]

it maybe could fit later, but I dont see the problem with it being now

[spice cairn]

The point is moreso is that the depth they went into rocks while giving up stuff about Loki we might be forced to wait for is a bit odd.

[deep chasm]

its good we get to find out rather than waiting longer

[trim lily]

my main problem is it feels like it took away from the harald flashback (and by extension loki)

[spice cairn]

Which is fine. After all Rocks is very integral

[trim lily]

we really skimmed through harald’s early years and him changing elbaf

[deep chasm]

I dont think thats a big deal, rocks and harald are connected

[dense rapids]

If anything it added to the Harald flashback because Rocks is a critical part of it

[spice cairn]

But this felt like a response to people who kept mouth watering about him for years

[vital heart]

We deadass started when he was like 48-50 years old lol

[deep chasm]

there was never going to be a good point to talk gods valley tbh

[dense rapids]

Bro we started when he was a teenager

[trim lily]

i thought we’d get it when blackbeard talked to garp

[deep chasm]

even if we waited for a BB flashback, you could argue rocks stuff is taking away from BBs part

[dense rapids]

It makes more sense with Loki seeing as Loki actually knew him

[ruby moat]

Weird way to spell Coby

[deep chasm]

I dont wanna be one anymore

[spice cairn]

Rocks literally gave Teech a lot more than what would be theorically removed.

[vital heart]

When BB talks to Garp, we'll get flashback of Garp youth + BB youth, post GV. Maybe even GV from the POV of baby BB and Garp/marines? Thoughts? @deep chasm @ruby moat

[deep chasm]

I was never a mod anyway technically just one of the helpers

[trim lily]

i don’t think we need a god valley from the pov of 2 year old bb lol

[sage temple]

I should be a helper if you were

[deep chasm]

Id like to not have to hear about garps youth ngl

[ruby moat]

Hmmm id be surprised if we went back to GV for another perspective on it

[deep chasm]

[vital heart]

Thats what i think too

[dense rapids]

Naw man leave it where it was

Perfect ending

Whose other perspective would we get?

[vital heart]

Garp POV

Baby Teech POV

Eris POV

[ruby moat]

Maybe eris

[trim lily]

2 year old baby pov

[spice cairn]

How dare you want more perspectives on one of the biggest points of conflict in the series

How fucking DARE you

[vital heart]

HOLY SHIt

[dense rapids]

We will see Blackbeard and Eris post god valley

[ruby moat]

We may get a little slice of it like a page during bbs flashback assuming he gets a nice long fleshed out flashback

[dense rapids]

Blackbeard flashback will be Oda redeeming him

[vital heart]

REMEMBER THE FAN LETTER ANIME? IT WAS MARINEFORD IN A MARINE POV?

WHAT IF WE GET FAN LETTER PART 2 WITH GOD VALLEY IN RANDOM PIRATE POV??????

[deep chasm]

I dont think other POVs are necessary. They can show us little moments and stuff

[ruby moat]

That’d be cool

[deep chasm]

but not like another multiple chapter flashback of it

[trim lily]

barbell’s pov

[spice cairn]

Itll be in the same vein as Kuma

We clearly arent done with GV.

[deep chasm]

Garp POV is irrelevant, only one would be eris/bb

[spice cairn]

Now that Oda wants to unload on it now

[sage temple]

Loki POV in the womb

[vital heart]

We could get a Holy Knights POV too. Maybe Gunko's POV of GV.

[trim lily]

i assume eris would tie into her meeting rocks and her life on god valley

[deep chasm]

Gunko I doubt has anything interesting from GV

show us her thing with brook

[trim lily]

just typical CD stuff for her

[ruby moat]

I’m sure we’ll eventually see what happened with eris and Bb immediately after GV like where they were sent by kuma and how eris eventually died and shit so we may get a tiny bit of GV from one of their perspectives leading into that

[deep chasm]

yea

a small bit of their time on GV, but itd mostly be about after GV

[ruby moat]

Ya

[trim lily]

though there’s some potential if she sees a parent and child and it triggers some trauma

[deep chasm]

or maybe even before the incident, when rocks and her met

[dense haven]

yall liked the chapter?

[vital heart]

ERIS IS MMBF

YES

[ruby moat]

Oh yea that’d be cool

[deep chasm]

eris is what

[dense rapids]

Eris is dead like every other OP mom

[trim lily]

eris transition theory

[vital heart]

New Member: ERIS

[ruby moat]

Eris is luffys mom

[vital heart]

@deep chasm Context

[tawny panther]

hopefully she got to spend st least a decade with her child

[dense rapids]

Blackbeard was an orphan I think at like 15

[deep chasm]

"man" btw

[dense rapids]

I forgot how old they were in that oden flashback

[spice cairn]

Loki ate the final polyglith

[ruby moat]

Fuckin loser orphan lmao imagine not having parents

[vital heart]

Wdym?

[tawny panther]

Teach was around 12 when he joined WB .. so it’s possible Eris was with him for at least 12 years

[ruby moat]

If any of y’all are orphans I apologize

[deep chasm]

huh

[vital heart]

Wdym?

[deep chasm]

oh😭

[trim lily]

jumpscare

[fervent crest]

didn't think that would go through lol

[dense rapids]

From a loser orphan to the strongest man in the world

[fervent crest]

🤣

[vital heart]

yo

[tawny panther]

lmao damn loser orphan is harsh

[vital heart]

have we ever seen a baby luffy

[deep chasm]

not ready for akagami

[vital heart]

or a baby shanks

or a baby buggy

or a baby loki

wait we have

for all except for luffy and buggy

lmao

nevermind

[ruby moat]

From a loser orphan to a child slaver

[dense rapids]

Bro getting turned to dust

[spice cairn]

Would you kill baby Teech

[vital heart]

I was gonna make a collage of all the yonko/strong characters as babies

nvm

[vital heart]

Like Hitler?

[spice cairn]

Wtf

[fervent crest]

luffy was born on a stone mountain like sun wukong

[dense rapids]

They’re next

[spice cairn]

No

[fervent crest]

he has no mom

[dense rapids]

Oda saving the best for last

[spice cairn]

Like a normal baby killing

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/view/fku-stfu-punching-baby-lemme-at-them-punch-gif-16103581

[fervent crest]

W theory

[tawny panther]

nah .. I ain’t a WB pirate so he ain’t do shit to me lol

[spice cairn]

Would Rocks do this

[dense rapids]

That Buggy flashback will be legendary

I wonder how it’s going to come

[tawny panther]

whenever Cross Guild ends up in the same arc as Straw Hats

[dense rapids]

Buggy and Luffy in the same arc is always peak

[tawny panther]

perfect time for oda to show buggy & mihawk backstories (i’ve given up on him showing Crocs backstory )

[dense rapids]

Orange Town
Impel Down
Marineford

[fervent crest]

mihawk strongest character behind imu currently 👀

[tawny panther]

l-o-l

[ruby moat]

Mihawk more like no hawk (hawk rhymes with coc kinda)

[deep chasm]

I think that first message you sent lost you your credibility brother

[fervent crest]

It's facts

mihawk top 2 behind imu currently

✅

[dense rapids]

We probably won’t see Luffy x Buggy again until Lodestar/Laugh Tale or the Final War

[vital heart]

Not according to my books.

[tough dust]

"mihawk"

[dense rapids]

Cross Guild will be busy dealing with the marines

[vital heart]

@fervent crest

Mihawk is #4

[fervent crest]

I think it'll be a bit before the final war

[wise edge]

Luffy was born from the egg that was on Rogers ship u mean

[vital heart]

After the recent chapter, I do have to put Loki at #3, and shift everyone down a bit

[deep chasm]

well I guess with the loki upscale we could be seeing luffy and loki vs Imu/gunko rn

[tawny panther]

you have Garling on your list .. and not just on the list but top 10 .. automatically invalid

[fervent crest]

you're cooking

[deep chasm]

zoro and sanji hopefully are vs the holy knights, and then maybe usopp comes in vs the domi versi giants...somehow

[vital heart]

lol

no

you got it backwards

zoro + usopp vs killingham

sanji + robin vs sommers

[deep chasm]

ew

[vital heart]

brook loki luffy vs imuko

[deep chasm]

brook sure

[fervent crest]

mihawk is stronger than shanks and dragon has done nothing (of course I still think dragon is strong--he has to be, but just top 10 and not top 3 currently)

[wise edge]

Meanwhile Luffy is donuted by Imu and Loki dies

[deep chasm]

I think brook wont show up vs gunko until the end of the fight though

[dapper tree]

trash

[fervent crest]

mihawk is the only person in history to have ever obtained a black blade (that we know of) and to make it even better it's the strongest sword in one piece

[tough dust]

i see brook as a distraction but not part of the fight whatsever

[dense rapids]

Imu isn’t getting defeated this arc so someone is about to be a hype tool

[deep chasm]

put shamrock way lower and the gorosei down a bit and I agree mostly

[fervent crest]

Shanks is strong and all, but he's a swordsman and mihawk is the strongest swordsman

[sage temple]

Loki at 5 is acceptable for me I'd put Loki at 3 though personally

[vital heart]

I do agree, esp after 1170 and 1171. I'd put Loki at 3 now

[dapper tree]

tale as old as time

[wise edge]

Shanks is a wizard with swordsman as a sub-class

[deep chasm]

who are the 2 people you think are stronger than loki

[fervent crest]

gotta remind em

[tawny panther]

hate to tell ya but fans don’t give a damn about black blades no more in the final saga .. it’s all about putting your feats on the table lol

[dapper tree]

meek and socrates combo

[vital heart]

Nah, if I re-did it rn, I'd swap Garling and Shamrock.

[deep chasm]

noooo, thats worse

[vital heart]

Imu and Dragon

[sage temple]

Imu and Dragon since he's just that guy

[vital heart]

^

[fervent crest]

Cope

[deep chasm]

wow

[fervent crest]

Mihawk is stronger than shanks

[deep chasm]

dragon more of that guy than loki? this is new

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/staring-at-you-mark-phillips-rdcworld1-looking-at-you-glancing-at-you-gif-13248227540072700931

[dapper tree]

sure pal

[tough dust]

Imu is a no brainer

mr dragon however...

[sage temple]

Bounty merchant

That's all

[wise edge]

Actually Shanks is a wizard that specialises in beast transformation magic, the rat bloodline in particular

[fervent crest]

[dapper tree]

out of all the characters he choose, he choose dragon?

[vital heart]

It's an A5 Wagyu steak

[fervent crest]

ah

[deep chasm]

dragon beating buffed harald?

[fervent crest]

ragnir victim fr

[dapper tree]

9 weeks expired

[tawny panther]

we just saw the shanks that mihawk was having duels with … i’m sorry but it’s not enough to put him top 2

[sage temple]

No

[dense haven]

dragon vs loki who wins

[sage temple]

Not in a 1v1 I don't think so

[deep chasm]

well now we have an issue

[fervent crest]

loki

[dapper tree]

the logic is not there

[tough dust]

dragon can only go far with the portrayal man.., he lucky he is in top 10 at least 😭

[tidal ice]

Is it too soon to say harald was mentally nerfed

[rich hornet]

Loki solos the verse

[deep chasm]

he coulda just said yes and Id be like fair enough

[fervent crest]

until we see dragon do anything he's a strategic character and not a powerhouse

[dense rapids]

Imu
Dragon
Shanks? Loki?
Blackbeard? Mihawk?
Luffy

[dapper tree]

it would have made sense with his logic

[sage temple]

What?

[deep chasm]

"top 10" btw

[rich hornet]

They said this about Gorosei

[wise edge]

Loki dead in 3 chapters, blows himself up to let nika escape

[deep chasm]

why is dragon losing to buffed harald, but hes stronger than loki who beats buffed harald

[tough dust]

imagine BB crew kicking loki outta of his base 😭

[dense rapids]

If Loki pulls a Pedro that’ll be the funniest shit ever 🤣

[vital heart]

1. Imu
2. Dragon
3. Loki
4. Shanks
5. Mihawk
6. Luffy
7. Akainu
8. Blackbeard
9. Shamrock
10. Garling
11. Warcury
12. Venusjuro
13. Mars
14. Garp
15. Aokiji
16. Kizaru
17. Fujitora
18. Greenbull
19. Gaban
20. Rayleigh

-- SOURCE: ME / Meek's New Top 20 Strongest OP Characters --

Last Updated: 01/17/26

New Changes: Greenbull added after Ragnir was kicked (does not count as a character, otherwise I would have to add Shirahoshi, Emeth, and or Zunesha). Moved some Gorosei up. Moved Blackbeard up one spot.

New Changes: Swapped Shamrock and Garling, Moved Loki up after 1170 and 1171. Greenbull moved up above Rayleigh and Gaban. Gaban and Rayleigh swapped.

[tawny panther]

and they were right cause after we saw them people were disappointed and changed how they view them so it makes sense to wait lol Gorosei & HKs proved that it’s best to wait and see the feats first

[deep chasm]

you made it worse Im saddened

[dapper tree]

this is trash. I hate it

[golden valley]

Says Mihawk being top 2

[vital heart]

It's amazing

[tidal ice]

I love it

[wise edge]

Go outside bro

[fervent crest]

lol

[fervent crest]

he is

[sage temple]

Can you shut the fuck up

I said Loki ranks below Dragon, Harald needed to let Loki hit him for Loki to kill him, Dragon could do the same but I don't think either Loki or Dragon can beat HK Harald

[golden valley]

Until Mihawk shows hes a powerhouse, he aint in the top 5

[sage temple]

I agree

[fervent crest]

🤣

[dapper tree]

OHHHHHHHHH

Mods

[fervent crest]

strongest swordsman btw

top 2

[deep chasm]

@dapper tree why does he hate you

[tawny panther]

lmao dragon don’t got enough feats but Mihawk being top 2 is fine even though his only feat is stalemating Vista & getting his attack blocked by Jozu .. oh and he cut some. ice lol

[fervent crest]

🤣

[dapper tree]

he's yeling at me

[wise edge]

I only do like top 5 rankings, get bored past like number 7

[deep chasm]

you think current loki still loses to buffed harald?

[sage temple]

Because he's annoying

[fervent crest]

damn

[dapper tree]

cause I don't think loki is a god?

[dapper tree]

I question his logic?

[dense rapids]

Anyone thinking Dragon isn’t top 2 will just be disappointed when he makes his move

[fervent crest]

It would be cool is loki is a beaver

[wise edge]

If u ranking past number 10, u need to go outside, feel sunlight

[fervent crest]

ong

[sage temple]

I think if both Dragon or Loki went against HK Harald currently they'd lose but extreme diff

[vital heart]

I actually have 1 more change I'd like to make: I think Gaban is stronger than Rayleigh currently.

[dapper tree]

how does that make sense?

[golden valley]

So Mihawk gets to be top 2 off a statement but dragon cant be a powerhouse off of narrative?

[wise edge]

He already has. He creates Luffy

[fervent crest]

tf you mean

[dapper tree]

Loki beats harald

[fervent crest]

what kind of drugs are you taking

[dapper tree]

Easilyt

[fervent crest]

ong

[sage temple]

Okay then Dragon can beat HK Harald

Can yall gomd

[golden valley]

I think ur downplaying greenbull sir

[dapper tree]

Your logic wasn't makin sense

[fervent crest]

he beat the living shit out of harald and turned him normal again for a bit before one shotting him with ragnir

[dense rapids]

Dragon is the only Monkey in his prime

[dapper tree]

We see that match up

[golden valley]

Ray and Gaban cant beat any Admiral at their age

[sage temple]

I'm not going to explain

[vital heart]

Yeah I think so. I might move Greenbull above current Rayleigh and current Gaban... Thoughts?

[fervent crest]

harald couldn't even fight back

[tawny panther]

only powerscaling that truly matters .. Luffy & Teach top 2 all time at the end

[golden valley]

Valid

[dapper tree]

I know you won't

[wise edge]

Lebrons dad is 3rs best athlete in world, cus his son is Lebron

[tidal ice]

Gorosei above admirals was a based choice meek

[sage temple]

Okay so why are you still speaking to me

[fervent crest]

he was getting absolutely EVISCERATED BY THE GOAT

[sage temple]

😭

[fervent crest]

[sage temple]

Just saying words I'm crine

[dapper tree]

[vital heart]

It's very close though.

[tough dust]

HK harald dog walking dragon 🤷‍♂️

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-just-typing-shit-bro-just-typing-shit-gif-18336060238854257551

[fervent crest]

gorosei didn't try on egghead it's not close

[tidal ice]

I think so too but with their regen i always have gorosei on top

[fervent crest]

once the gorosei have to truly defend imu they gon lock in and we will see they're true power

[sage temple]

Wait ngl current Loki could probably beat HK Harald now that I think about it

[golden valley]

Yeah, I got Holy Knight Harald above Dragon at least for now. imu was glazing bro like crazy

[mental lake]

Godwin's law proving correct once again

[fervent crest]

wtf you mean

he already beat him before

[dapper tree]

what is going on in that head?

How are you switching up

[sage temple]

Because I can admit that I'm wrong?

[dapper tree]

Loki very clearly beats harald

[fervent crest]

one shot him btw

[sage temple]

Yeah Loki can beat HK Harald

[dapper tree]

it was never a question in the first place

[sage temple]

Yeah which is why I corrected myself

[wise edge]

On the prophecy, there's a giant dragon on top of the tree.

[sage temple]

And you're still complaining for some reason

[tawny panther]

it’s hilarious how before egghead , Gorosei were viewed as “ each one is yonko lvl” then after egghead people were dissaponted and they got slandered

then before Elbaf people were saying the HKs were “ admiral lvl” and now people are dissaponted and the HKs are always slandered ..

when will fans learn to stop overrating these ugly ass Celestial Dragons 🤦🏾‍♂️🤣 the strongest one was somebody who was a giant and not even a CD

[sage temple]

Lmao

[mental lake]

Of course he can we seen it

[dapper tree]

but it doesn't make sense

[dapper tree]

they never were

those people are crazy

[fervent crest]

one shot him

one ragnir attack

boom

dead

[wise edge]

Is this worth reading any1, too long for me

[fervent crest]

mentally nerfed too

[sage temple]

Imu
Dragon
Loki
Shanks
Mihawk
HK Harald

[tawny panther]

just talked about how people said gorosei & HKs were admiral and yonko lvl before they showered any feats and got proven wrong

[mental lake]

Why is dragon so high

[tough dust]

what makes the harald and loki encounter so hard to scale is that i'm not sure if harald even wanted to fight back when he wanted to see his DF and the fact that he let him do the finishing blow before he gets take over again

[sage temple]

Because he's just him I dunno

[dapper tree]

people are crazy

[sage temple]

Everyone agrees that too

So

[wise edge]

Giant black dragon on top of tree in the prophecy, n ppl think Dragon not strong

[sage temple]

Okay so you complain about me putting Dragon at 2 but not at Meek

[mental lake]

When did we all agree on dragon being top 2

[tidal ice]

His name is dragon, they fly quite high

[fluid cedar]

List is bad if shanks is above mihawk

[dense rapids]

Akainu doesn’t exist?

[dapper tree]

everyone yells at meek

[tough dust]

as character

u not touching the top 2 with just portrayal only, thats fucking stupid

[mental lake]

[sage temple]

All of these people beat Akainu

[dapper tree]

meek is used to it

[deep chasm]

so does that make dragon #3 now?

[sage temple]

So we think Dragon should be moved down

Hm

[dapper tree]

2 now

[sage temple]

No, 2

[deep chasm]

oh so he thinks dragon>buffed harald then

[sage temple]

He stays at 2

[tough igloo]

lmao they said each gorosei is beating kaido .. then oda revealed just use more acoc to fuck them up 🤣😂

[sage temple]

Yes

[mental lake]

I didn't see meeks list

[dapper tree]

yes

[sage temple]

Oh alr

[dapper tree]

what a clown image

[tough igloo]

egghead had some wild memes

[mental lake]

exactly

[tough igloo]

the kaido one was the most popular due to the “Gorosei are each stronger than Kaido “ takes

[sage temple]

Where put him then

[golden valley]

Dragon carries his entire faction, said faction is highlighted as a pretty major factor against Marines/Yonko/World Government. Where I think this narratively places Dragon is uhhhhh, either as strong or slightly weaker than Mihawk

[dapper tree]

[tough dust]

barely makes the 5 for me until i see something

[sage temple]

Imu
Loki
Shanks
Mihawk
Dragon
Luffy
Akainu
Blackbeard
Shamrock
Garling

[tough dust]

thats the furthered he can go with just portrayal

[sage temple]

That actually looks good

[deep chasm]

woah

how did dragon drop bro

[sage temple]

Yeah I see this ngl

[dapper tree]

Dragon the featless man and Mihawk the title upscaler, both frauds that don't deserve to be so high

[deep chasm]

he was just at 2

[sage temple]

RAZZ and Pasta swayed my opinion

[mental lake]

He going in unknown till I see some feats

[dapper tree]

[wise edge]

Bro has Akainu below Luffy. Just a ragebaiter

[dapper tree]

he's not loki, he can't blindly hype him

[tough igloo]

you forgot the most important one who has absolutely no feats and just gets upscale based off a vivre card 😂🤦🏾‍♂️

[dapper tree]

TRUEEEE

[golden valley]

I mean

[tough dust]

the only reason why i didn't do that is that i will assume he will fight someone of importance

[golden valley]

Ben is at least better than dragon scaling wise as far as what we can gauge

[tough dust]

but thats his saving grace for now

[golden valley]

Ben is compared to admirals and his captain

[dapper tree]

lol

[deep chasm]

lets just say Ben is slightly stronger than Loki and never explain why

[tough igloo]

not really cause at least with dragon we know who his son and father is so it’s easier to assume he’s on that level .. with Beckman it’s just “ well he’s shanks first commander so he’s over admirals and other top tiers with actual feats “lol like what

[dapper tree]

very true

[tidal ice]

ben looks so good in vivre cards bro

[dapper tree]

that's just easy logic not unique to ben at all

[golden valley]

Dragon relies on father buff and narrative. Im saying Ben scaling has substance

[tranquil blade]

Eh idk the son of the strongest marine ever, who is also the father of the future pirate king, I just dont see him being weaker than the right hand of anyone really, let alone a pirate

[mental lake]

The revs waiting on the holy bums to do something is kinda crazy.

[tough dust]

at least the track record of the yc1's gives an idea of how he is currently

esp when he is the last one that have yet to be showcased that isn't BB's crew

[deep chasm]

powerscaling purely off feats sucks ass ngl

[sage temple]

?

[deep chasm]

dragon is like

[dapper tree]

BB's crew is all bums

[deep chasm]

at least on the admiral level

[sage temple]

I feel like Luffy > Akainu

[deep chasm]

after that who knows ig

but he gets mc dad buff

[golden valley]

You can pull a statement of Ben actually being compared to top tiers.

You cannot do the same for Dragon.

[dapper tree]

dragon dying anyway

[tough igloo]

i’m sure Beckman is strong but not strong enough to where he should be put over top tiers whe he has no feats .. it’s not like he’s a commander like Kuzan or Mihawk where we already knew they were top tiers on their own

[tough dust]

ben is like million times more easier to scale than dragon

[golden valley]

^

[dense rapids]

Sabo is Yonko level

Dragon is stronger than Sabo

[deep chasm]

easier to scale is one thing

hes just not stronger tho

[sage temple]

FINAL LIST

Imu
Loki
Mihawk
Shanks
Dragon
Luffy
Akainu
Blackbeard
Garling
Shamrock

[tough igloo]

Dragon being the son of garp and father of luffy and having CoC and leader of revs already makes it easier to just put him at top tier level .. Beckman is all over the place

[deep chasm]

like dragon can obviously be stronger, but ben is easier to pinpoint where he is

[fervent crest]

facts

[mental lake]

I'm suprised dragon gets scaled at all since he has no feats and barely any portrayal pointing towards his strength, for which people hype him up.

[dapper tree]

that's all he needs

[fervent crest]

not facts

[tough igloo]

Beckman has no feats to even put him over people like Law Kid Zoro but everytime he’s scaled hes almost always put above half the top tiers in the story lol it’s it cause he pointed a gun

[fervent crest]

mihawk is above loki

[sage temple]

Not true

At least not imo

[tough dust]

i see people going from bottom of top 10 to top 2 with dragon 😭

at least most people scale ben next to commanders and could hang with admirals possibably

[tranquil blade]

Benn is not even that easy to pinpoint either lol, he has threatening an admiral who ignored him and maybe shooting Kid

[dapper tree]

loki is lucky he doesn't use a sword

[sage temple]

Loki being top 2/3 in the verse is pretty likely

[tranquil blade]

Like what do we mean here

[dapper tree]

otherwise it would be game over

[deep chasm]

being mc dad, strongest marine son, most wanted man, leader of revs, not revealed yet and likely to be a huge part in defeat of final villain, yea we can assume hes a top tier

[deep chasm]

oh that would be hell

[fervent crest]

tbh it's my own wants and opinion as well, but I don't see current loki being there

[tough igloo]

exactly ! lol

[golden valley]

Ben Beckman is a top tier, its easy to know where his tier is, maybe not who he beats, but general tier? Absolutely

[deep chasm]

"Mihawk>Loki>Rocks=harald"

[dapper tree]

lol, we arleady there

[sage temple]

Okay cool that you think that

[fervent crest]

I feel like mihawk is at a level which luffy and loki will reach at the end of elbaf or soon after

[tough igloo]

i don’t think he’s a top tier .. then again i guess it’s what you view as a top tier .. i only view admiral and yonko lvls and above as “top tiers “

[tranquil blade]

Replace Mihawk with Shanks and it could be true

[sage temple]

Swords are overrated anyway

[dapper tree]

both of them alreasdy beat miahwk

[dense rapids]

“No he’s weaker than a Yonko commander”

[tranquil blade]

Remember Shanks wins

[fervent crest]

of course current loki is still a bit stronger right now

[dapper tree]

jack claps

[tranquil blade]

That's a rule

[deep chasm]

"no feats" 😭 ok buddy

[fervent crest]

[dapper tree]

unless it's mihawk

[tough dust]

i have no issues with putting loki above him right now lol

[dense rapids]

Some people you just gotta laugh at and keep it moving

[fervent crest]

luffy would get cut into pieces

[dapper tree]

luffy clears

[dense rapids]

Then when Dragon gets his masterclass people will be glazing him

Shit is a cycle

[tranquil blade]

He needs to settle the score

[tough igloo]

they did it with Garp .. it went from “ Garp doesn’t have CoC” “ Garp was never on Roger level “ then hachinosu raid happened then god valley flashback and now it’s never talked about again 🤦🏾‍♂️😂

[dense rapids]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[tough igloo]

mf had 3 yonkos running and people had to just shut up

[dense rapids]

People think dragon isn’t stronger than Hachinosu Garp

[golden valley]

Ben’s whole thing from Oda’s Film Red Notes is him being compared to Admirals.

[dapper tree]

I mean.........

[tranquil blade]

There's a Garp doubter in the chat rn and I can tell you how the goalpost shifted now

[fervent crest]

Imu will die from luffy summoning a giant sun spirit bomb fueled with the haki of all living creatures on blue planet

[dapper tree]

hachinoso didn't change anyones mind

[tough igloo]

only ben beckman film red note i saw was his haki bullets can pierce even admirals .. that doesn’t put him at admiral lvl ..

[dapper tree]

the flashback shouldn't but it be what it be

[tranquil blade]

It did for the people saying old Garp was weaker than Queen

[dense rapids]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[tranquil blade]

and I remember those people

[dapper tree]

queen does have a win con at least

[tough igloo]

it did , it had the people who say he didn’t have CoC realize they were wrong

[dense rapids]

Bro queen isn’t doing half of what Garp did on Hachinosu

[golden valley]

The film red Oda notes is it saying Ben has better Haki than admirals

[dapper tree]

i mean, in over all powerlvel

[tough igloo]

let’s not act like a lot of people didn’t use to say Garp wouldn’t have CoC .. no revisionist history lol

[fluid cedar]

so a spirit bomb but with haki

[deep chasm]

"hes a strategist" and its referring to the guy whos dad is the strongest marine and whos son is gonna surpass joyboy

yall think the strength skipped a generation

[dapper tree]

it would be so funny

[dense rapids]

Sabo’s master btw

You think he weaker than Sabo?

[tough igloo]

Zoro has also shown better haki than the admirals but again Zoro isn’t admiral level yet

[dapper tree]

easy Sabo W

[deep chasm]

right

[fluid cedar]

Its possible look at hajrudin hes a bum

[deep chasm]

hey ig

[tranquil blade]

Hajrudin is genetically ungifted

It's okay though

[dense rapids]

Also Dragon is literally the one in the monkey family in his prime

[tranquil blade]

He has heart

[dense rapids]

Luffy EOS won’t even be his prime

[sage temple]

😂

[dense rapids]

Bro still has decades to grow

[mental lake]

The most wanted man doesn't necessarily deal with strength , he could've easily earned that title due to his intelligence and being the leader of a faction against the world government. Also is the strongest marine son title (which isn't confirmed) worth using since it's so specific. Thirdly why use the leader of the revs as a strength-scaling thing when his title could be more connected to his ideologies and plans for which group has been following.

[fervent crest]

Yes

[clever idol]

Arguing that dragon wont be just as powerful as garp or luffy is more wishful thinking than anything the story has inferred

[tough igloo]

honestly lol

i’m not even a dragon stan but some stuff just feels like common sense

[mental lake]

I mean I'm not saying he's not strong but top 2

[dapper tree]

people hate that

[tough igloo]

i’ve see enough shonen to know how this trope plays out

[deep chasm]

Frankly you'd be a fool to see all of those things which add onto each other, and still fool yourself into believing every single exception in the world applies to dragon so that he can be weak

[dapper tree]

People will say you think he's weak

[golden valley]

The difference is that Ben is noted as pressing and being troublesome for Admirals to deal with when it comes to sheer haki. It’s in reference to combat. Mind you, Kizaru was fighting a Yonko spamming his Haki and doing just fine.

Dragon doesn’t have these comparisons, he’s never ever compared to a single top tier, in the series or outside of it, Ben is compared to two Top-Tiers.

[tough igloo]

Dragon will be OP

[dense rapids]

Literally

[dapper tree]

cause you don't think he's top 3

[clever idol]

Thats fair

[deep chasm]

Im not saying hes top 2 either, but rn youre arguing points that would be advocating for him not being strong

you can acknowledge all of those things and say hes not top 2 anyway, say hes top 5 or 10

to play devils advocate for like 7 different factors is crazy ngl

[clever idol]

Dragon being as strong as a prime garp for example is putting him in any top 10 tho

[mental lake]

It just seems like you're hyping him up to top 2 based off of little evidence imo

[deep chasm]

literally where did I say hes top 2

[clever idol]

Theres only really 1 definitive top 1 rn anyway

[tough igloo]

and again what’s stated about Beckman literally applies to Zoro as well .. if he fought a admiral he would be troublesome with his haki alone (since that’s all he got ) it’s gonna be a tough fight but again that doesn’t make zoro as strong as a admiral .. if i’m high being generous Beckman belongs in the tier with zoro law etc based off the film red notes where he’s above commanders but right below admirals

[clever idol]

The rest is up for grabs

[dapper tree]

that was someone else

[tough igloo]

this the same zoro that had yonkos scared of one of his attacks .. now imagine a admiral. who’s way less durable than those monsters

[mental lake]

You were suprised when he wasn't top 2 earlier on socrates list

[dapper tree]

Laww is more reasonable than that

[tough dust]

at least imu being locked for top 1 is the general take.

[dapper tree]

cause he was going off socrates logic

[deep chasm]

brotha I was surprised dragon WAS top 2 on socrates list because socrates always puts loki above everyone

[mental lake]

Oh well my mistake

[dapper tree]

that ain't changing probs ever

[sage temple]

I just don't do this

But word

I guess

[clever idol]

If garp was in his prime rn where would yall him in compared to the rest of the current top tiers?

[deep chasm]

name who is stronger than loki besides imu in your opinion

since you wanna dispute it 😭

[mental lake]

nontheless I still don't understand the concept of dragon being like top 2 with such little evidence for those who do think so

[golden valley]

No? The guy struggling with Lucci??? His combative capabilities aren’t getting the same hype as Ben at all. At best you have Asura, which might as well temporarily jump Zoro to top-tier status.

[dapper tree]

you do tho

[clever idol]

Is he contending for top 2?

[dense rapids]

Naw

Rocks was stronger than him

[clever idol]

Where then

[sage temple]

Dragon, Shanks, and Mihawk could possibly be stronger than Loki but I only really thing he's below Dragon out of the 3 since Dragon is so wanted

[dapper tree]

prime scaling hurts me

[dense rapids]

Top 5

[clever idol]

Its no different than the rest of our speculative nonsense

[sage temple]

No, not really

[tranquil blade]

I mean he'd be stronger than almost anyone I assume, but like Imu could win and maybe Shanks could too

[dapper tree]

there are too many characters if I do that

[deep chasm]

"possibly" and yet you placed loki above them, so you think loki is stronger than everyone besides imu

[tough igloo]

struggling with Lucci ? lmao alright i’ve seen enough .. Zoro gets more gas/hype from Oda than Beckman has ever got .. Oda wouldn’t. have 2 yonkos shook from Beckman, we actually saw how a admiral just ignored him and wasn’t worried about him shooting

[tranquil blade]

Idk he was a pretty big deal

[dense rapids]

Rocks Era

Rocks/Harald (no boosts)
Garp/Roger
WB

[dapper tree]

key word in there

[sage temple]

I think Dragon is the 2nd strongest

[mental lake]

Powerscaling based off of how wanted someone is , is the equivalent of bounty scaling

[clever idol]

And i asked about one compared to the current top tiers

Now give me an answer

[dapper tree]

I can't stop hurting me

[sage temple]

I said possibly because Shanks and Mihawk being stronger than Loki is a 50/50 imo

[deep chasm]

what was this list about then

[sage temple]

AI

[dapper tree]

ahhh

[tough igloo]

LMAO

[dapper tree]

fleeing

[clever idol]

Wherever u put prime garp rn. Thats where dragon could potentially be imo

[deep chasm]

so he resorts to trolling 😭

[tough igloo]

it’s always AI lmao

[tough dust]

Kid and law kinda killed the bounty system because someone as loki will eat those two alive.

[sage temple]

Lol

[dapper tree]

classic maneuver

[mental lake]

buggy was doing that long before them

[dense rapids]

Jika is massacring Loki

[deep chasm]

idk why you disputed this atp

[sage temple]

I only moved Dragon down because Pasta was omd about it

[tough dust]

oh yeah buggy 😭

[deep chasm]

ok so

[sage temple]

Okay so I don't really think that

[deep chasm]

at best you have imu and dragon above loki

so my point stands

[sage temple]

Yeah I do have Imu and Dragon above Loki

[deep chasm]

you generally put loki above everyone outside of imu

so I was shocked to see dragon above loki

[tough igloo]

where is Jika … i thought his fans said he would be in Elbaf by now lol

[tough dust]

street say ragnir might be metal

[dense rapids]

Idk he’s popping up randomly in one of these arcs

[tough dust]

[dense rapids]

“Iron” Thunder

[tough igloo]

as long as Killer ain’t dead , i’m good

[mental lake]

nah he's a squirrel

[dapper tree]

you never listen to me about anything

[dense rapids]

Jika upscale

[tough dust]

we know the hammer is the default setting

[dense rapids]

Demalo Black cosplaying as Kidd just confirms his return for me

[mental lake]

I know I'm joking 🐿️

[dense rapids]

Bro pulling the same thing as return to Sabaody

[high wolf]

He got cooked by shanks HARD.

[sage temple]

Yeah sometimes

[mental lake]

He served well as shanks poneglyph delivery boy

[tough dust]

end of the arc probably. it will be a weird time to bring him now with all the shit going on

[tough igloo]

Loki tries to call back ragnir against imu but realizes he’s not comin , then he looks behind him and this is all he sees in the land of Elbaf 😂 Ragnir becomes a part of Kid mechanical arm

Kid instantly jumps up to top 3

[high wolf]

At least he did something 🥹

[fallen meteor]

is he still metal while on squirrel mode

[mental lake]

Now he's stuck under the sea

[tough igloo]

yeah i would assume since it’s still a hammer first but i do wonder how that would work

[high wolf]

[tough dust]

BB and shanks really got nice ubers

[golden valley]

Yes, struggling with Lucci? He was huffing and puffing, why are you trying to debate whats on panel. Zoro gets gas than the vast majority of top tiers, it’s not relevant to strength, otherwise, good job, Zoro is stronger than Luffy because he had BM telling her nephew to dodge 🤣.

The Kizaru vs Ben interaction being used as an example is always funny, it proves nothing on either side. Kizaru doesn’t backdown easy and Kizaru’s expressions don’t always reflect what he feels like in the moment. Kizaru we know was pissed off against Rayleigh so much so he went to capture 500 pirates to vent his rage. In the Ben vs Kizaru interactions, we are told on multiple occasions Kizaru takes Ben as a serious threat, just like he took Luffy as one but his facial expressions hardly ever reflected that.

[mental lake]

Their tip was them beating kidd and law up

[tough igloo]

not huffing and puffing scaling .. i don’t even need to read the rest lol

sound like Worstgen

[dense rapids]

Blackbeard huffs and puffs every fight and is undefeated 🤣

[sage temple]

Imu sees how Loki was the one he was so afraid of those years ago and senses nothing but danger radiating from him and runs
Loki instantly jumps to top 1

[golden valley]

what da hell?

[tough igloo]

lmao if Imu ran from Loki .. the fandom would explode in toxicity

[tough dust]

asthma egghead jokes where elite

[dense rapids]

Socrates when Loki gets hypetooled by Imu in 10 chapters

[golden valley]

Why do u think Oda draws characters huffing and puffing in fights

[tough igloo]

this would be more glaze than Oda ever gave Shanks surprisingly lol

[fluid cedar]

asthma

[clever idol]

This fandom every time a character inhales and exhales "theyre struggling so hard!"

[dense rapids]

Almost like they’re…. Fighting

[tidal ice]

He huffed and puffed a lot in the playground as a kid

[digital spear]

he did drugs as a kdi?

[tough igloo]

literally lmao like every character in shonen huffs and puffs anytime they fight ..

[clever idol]

Lol true tbh

[golden valley]

Lmao, what?

[tough igloo]

was Blackbeard struggling vs Bonney

[golden valley]

Can u show me an example of a low diff fight in OP where the character was huffing and puffing.

[tough igloo]

was Luffy struggling when Atlas hit him

[fluid cedar]

yes

[tough igloo]

lmao Atlas upscale

had a yonko who beat kaido struggling

[clever idol]

Big Bad Wolf scaling is crazy

[sage temple]

Buggy when Loki replaces Buggy as a Yonko at the end of the arc

[digital spear]

Gyogyo folded his crew so he had to step in

[dense rapids]

There won’t be anymore Yonko

[sage temple]

[tough igloo]

lmao why the ace pic ? is buggy dying

[dense rapids]

When you have to make fan pics to make an agenda

[dapper tree]

yonko will be done with when pirtate king happens

[mental lake]

This picture been frying me

[sage temple]

LMAOOO

[digital spear]

Then the 4 Yonko will be Zoro Sanji Jinbei and 4th person

[dense rapids]

Bro yall see the one with Ragnir 🤣🤣🤣

[sage temple]

Buggy shouldn't be on the page you're right

I keep forgetting

[dapper tree]

yamato

[dense rapids]

Buggy literally the narrator of One Piece

[high wolf]

YES! MY GOAT WOKI IS GONNA FIND THE ONE PIECE

[digital spear]

WHO INVITED IMU 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

[tranquil blade]

Still just Shanks

He's just an emperor forever

[sage temple]

Just visualizing it for you since I know you've been struggling with reading recently

[sage temple]

I AGREE

[clever idol]

Lmaooooooooo

[high wolf]

[clever idol]

In a better timeline that would be true

One where jinbe is actually stronger than zoro

[tough igloo]

what’s gonna happen if Loki runs into Cross Guild on the seas .. will he be amazed by Buggy like most or see though his bullshit lol

[clever idol]

I dont think he would pay any attention to buggy

[dapper tree]

luffy left the monster trio years ago

[tough igloo]

kinda hard to not pay attention to Buggy

[tranquil blade]

Gonna see blue hair and think he's Xebec's son

[tidal ice]

Trio's full bro

[clever idol]

Its easy when ur blindfolded

[sage temple]

This is possible ngl

[clever idol]

[dense rapids]

Will glaze him like Hajrudin glazed Usopp

[scenic dirge]

I think it's cope to treat Ragnir as a completely independent entity from Loki but 🤷‍♀️

[mental lake]

Sanji and Zoro getting replaced lol

[tranquil blade]

Wait but the parallels

[sage temple]

See through his bullshit lmao

[tranquil blade]

This is real

[clever idol]

Agreed and the fandoms been coping real hard

[tough igloo]

tbf Zoro fans had to deal with the enma slander for a entire arc so it’s fair that Loki gets it too .. equal slander for all

[digital spear]

Well its a really cute squirrel

[tough igloo]

cause ragnir is way crazier than enma

[digital spear]

It would probably be like Zeus

[sage temple]

Loki is the a trickster god I think he'd know a lie when he sees it, he saw through Imu's lie as well

[tidal ice]

That squirrel has a will

[dense rapids]

Buggy still gotta get his revenge on Hajrudin

[golden valley]

What? 😭

[golden valley]

What? 😭

[tough igloo]

true , plus with Buggy :.. it wouldn’t take long for him to realize he’s getting bullied by his subordinates

i wish they would stop that honestly lol

[digital spear]

There will probably just be a conflict between CG and Strawhats

Btw its so cool that Hajrudin was working for Buggy and Ida was in a circus lol

[sage temple]

Exactly lmao

[sage temple]

Buggy fans gotta endure it

[tough igloo]

true ! lol

[clever idol]

When its revealed that ragnir is a supreme grade blade>>>>>

[dense rapids]

Bro saying this as if this hasn’t been a thing for 20 years

[clever idol]

[digital spear]

Buggy will awaken haki from getting beaten up

[golden valley]

The guy who struggled with Lucci isn’t getting any slack cut off

[sage temple]

Lmao did I touch a nerve

[clever idol]

By usopp

[sage temple]

My bad Buggy I'm just saying

[tough igloo]

especially Croc … like bruh you got whooped by no haki Luffy pre timeskip , don’t try to bully Buggy now

[tranquil blade]

Lucci is strong

[dense rapids]

I need Cross Guild vs Marines asap

[clever idol]

Luffy went gear 5 for lucci btw

[dense rapids]

That arc gonna be top tier

[clever idol]

Get his ass too

[digital spear]

50 chs at least

[dense rapids]

[digital spear]

(it will be like 5)

[dense rapids]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Mihawk killing Sengoku whole fleet with one named attack and Buggy takes all the credit

[tough igloo]

as soon as Sanji said something to zoro about finishing up his fight wit Lucci .. he did it in one shot when he locked in .. i don’t see that as struggling .. cause it implies zoro could’ve ended the fight earlier if he had locked in

[golden valley]

Sanji talking shit is what even made that attack possible

It wasn’t Zoro getting stronger or putting in more effort mid fight

[tough igloo]

the point was Zoro got serious when sanji talked shit

and when he did he took out Lucci in one shot

he locked in once sanji said something

[golden valley]

Thats not how it played out. Zoro landed his attack because Lucci went for the opening which lowered his defense

Zoro then exploited that

[digital spear]

Mihawk vs Fujitora, Crocodile vs. Smoker, Doffy vs Tsuru, Buggy vs Sengoku, then Buggy punches him and Perona attacks Sengoku at the same time so Sengoku gets depressed and people think Buggy just downed the old fleet admiral

[golden valley]

And landed his named attack

[dense rapids]

You see it

Buddha vs God

[golden valley]

The reason him and Zoro were essentially at a stalemate is because both were blocking their strikes and couldn’t find an opening

Zoro just adapted and exploited Lucci’s opening when he went for the finger pistols

[dense rapids]

Cross Guild vs Marines

Cross Guild open Wano Borders

Cross Guild vs Strawhats

If Cross Guild vs Strawhats ends up being the final pirate crew fight that’ll be crazy

[tough igloo]

Sani : your a burden

Zoro the next second : takes Lucci out in one attack

Zoro was just playing with his food

[dense rapids]

From Orange Town to the New World

Luffy’s first pirate foe is his last

Zoro finally beats Mihawk

[shadow knoll]

arlong dead bruh

[dense rapids]

Sanji has no connection with them tho

[high wolf]

Buggy's DF awakening is going to be legendary.

[golden valley]

It won’t

[dense rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/buggy-mahoraga-walk-gif-11050100607676822473

[shadow knoll]

had hope in buggy agenda until oda decided to make the cross guild

[dense rapids]

Buggy will open Wano borders with awakened bara bara

[shadow knoll]

bum ahh writer

[high wolf]

I know

[tough igloo]

any one piece character would be strong in that verse lol