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Crazy that Ragnir is objectively superior to Yoru

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What do you think is more likely? Garp name the technique after his son or dragon invented it

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unkempt sable
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iron oriole
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if you take that as it being bad then thats on you

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iron oriole
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no, nothing wrong with being carried

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everyone has to at some point

sage temple
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Regardless saying someone depends on their weapon in a fighting series is just stating the obvious

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😭

sage temple
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Lmao

digital spear
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Dance if you powercliffed the op verse in 1 chapter

vital heart
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Aloh!

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Aloha!

digital spear
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A!

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Aloha!

sage temple
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I hope Loki's tattoos are given importance

plucky fog
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hi

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How are you

plucky fog
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I'm looking for a Minecraft friend.

iron oriole
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this is a One Piece server

sweet anvil
grand flower
sweet anvil
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Dragon will powercliff the old gen and majority of the current verse

iron oriole
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at the end of the day though, he loses to Tama

blazing mantle
deep chasm
# blazing mantle

do we think Tama knows how to hurt the holy knights, might have to go back and recruit her

iron oriole
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she does know

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she learned how from Rocks

hazy turret
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Bonney for strawhat name…in 2026…

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Reveal yourself

unkempt sable
blazing mantle
sweet anvil
unkempt sable
blazing mantle
sweet anvil
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If someone had to join

deep chasm
sweet anvil
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It should be Bonney

hazy turret
iron oriole
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tbh its a good job that GB walked away after Shanks warned him

deep chasm
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bonney is actually the worst option

iron oriole
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he wasn't ready for Tama

deep chasm
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that disgusts me

snow locust
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No one for Straw Hat

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Crew is full

hazy turret
unkempt sable
sweet anvil
latent hamlet
deep chasm
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so that alone makes him a better option

sweet anvil
iron oriole
unkempt sable
iron oriole
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if so it better be a GOAT

sweet anvil
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Loki doesn’t even make sense

latent hamlet
sweet anvil
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He ruins the crew dynamic

latent hamlet
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Remember
Tama isnt just strong by herself

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She is a commander of an army

iron oriole
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false

snow locust
latent hamlet
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Why fight when she can send her faithful servants

deep chasm
scarlet nacelle
latent hamlet
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GB isnt worthy to face tama

deep chasm
iron oriole
deep chasm
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no she is not

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bonney is last

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at best she could go over momo maybe

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but even then no

sweet anvil
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Momo is horrible I don’t need to explain

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Loki wouldn’t make sense

deep chasm
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I agree

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bonney more horrible

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loki wouldnt make sense but the cool factor still makes him a better option

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snow locust
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Bonney is definitely a better pick than Momo, Tama, or Loki

sweet anvil
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A plain sheet of paper is more interesting than Yamato

digital spear
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Womo

deep chasm
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Yamato is also cool and made a cool relationship with luffy

sweet anvil
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I don’t hate tama tbh

iron oriole
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only reason why Tama didn't join straight away is because the power dynamic would be thrown off

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Zoro isn't strong enough yet

sweet anvil
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Vivi is better than Bonney so I don’t need to explain

iron oriole
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Vivi is joining back up soon

digital spear
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Vivi > Loki > Bonney > Tama > Momo > Yamato > Carrot (I really suffered under all the nakama talk during wano because it was between the worst ones)

sweet anvil
iron oriole
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Con D Oriano > Vivi > Loki > Tama > Yamato > rest

sweet anvil
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Also Loki down

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To the bottom

digital spear
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No?

sweet anvil
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Loki is too strong

unkempt sable
sweet anvil
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To join

sweet anvil
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To the Sh

digital spear
unkempt sable
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He has a much better reason to stay in wano than Yamato does

deep chasm
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Momo is so annoying there is no way he was joining

sweet anvil
ocean sigil
unkempt sable
deep chasm
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tama is fair

tranquil blade
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Momo had too many duties in Wano for me to think he would ever join

deep chasm
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I dont think tama was the best option but tama would be a reasonable choice as a new apprentice

ocean sigil
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Awakened Tama could control all Gorosei Demon Zoans too

iron oriole
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true

scarlet nacelle
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i got a whole bunch of reasons why i don't believe loki will be, or should be a straw hat. but i've aired them out so many times im just not gonna bother today

deep chasm
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I mean

deep chasm
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yea loki cant be a strawhat cuz hes too strong and too tall

digital spear
deep chasm
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thats about it

clever idol
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Bonney and tama meeting would be cutw

deep chasm
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if he was weaker and smaller he could join but otherwise no

dense haven
iron oriole
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Bonney should have stayed on Egghead

deep chasm
dense haven
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sh loki will be usopp level

sweet anvil
iron oriole
clever idol
dense haven
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as for the size I'm sure oda can come up with some bs since loki is a shapeshifter

clever idol
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ocean sigil
iron oriole
unique sonnet
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Ive never seen Luffy be so interested in someone so intently, has there been anyone else who he longed for so much?

digital spear
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The Loki size unironically is the smallest (lol) reason why Loki cant join

dense haven
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oda will nerf loki to the ground if he joins so power is not an issue

iron oriole
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i actually like Bonney G5Laugh

sweet anvil
ocean sigil
clever idol
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I dont wanna see loki nerfed

deep chasm
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loki gonna get nerfed anyway, but if he joins he'll actually become a different character by how much weaker hed get

sweet anvil
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From strongest in the verse to weaker than Zoro

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Insane

deep chasm
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and sanji

clever idol
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But i would like to see sail with the shs for a lil bit and then do his own thing

runic dock
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iron oriole
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Bonney joining the crew would be funny too just because people would mald over Bonnika

digital spear
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What if Zoro and Sanji just become Yonko level this arc

iron oriole
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again

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WHAT then

ocean sigil
sweet anvil
scarlet nacelle
clever idol
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Sanji being equal to zoro is so nothing since he never gets the same level of portrayal zoro does

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iron oriole
sweet anvil
digital spear
tranquil blade
tranquil blade
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and based on their personalities

sweet anvil
clever idol
olive sigil
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Is Socrates / Mosa around?

digital spear
iron oriole
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Socrates was

sweet anvil
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Nothing really changes they’re either equal or Zoro slightly stronger

olive sigil
sweet anvil
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Which means nothing to me anyways

clever idol
olive sigil
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I’m mad at him

iron oriole
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whats new

digital spear
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Socrates being Mosa would make a lot sense

unkempt sable
sage temple
olive sigil
sage temple
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My fault 😔

silent canopy
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sanji should unlock conquerus haki in this arc no?

digital spear
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Yes

sage temple
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Can't wait for Loki to get revenge for his friends

digital spear
tranquil blade
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Yes

olive sigil
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Life ruined

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iron oriole
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Sanji will just use the POL

sweet anvil
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Mihawk is lowkey the greatest leech oat

digital spear
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Piece of love

iron oriole
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close enough

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scarlet nacelle
tranquil blade
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I'm still thinking about that shanks dream

iron oriole
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yeah people hated it

sweet anvil
tranquil blade
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Yeah

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silent canopy
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loki should join the gigant pirates and be their leader, and make part of the grand fleet

tranquil blade
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and thats if Shanks only uses a sword (which he might)

digital spear
sage temple
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Gunko realizing they freed the owner of the animals she tortured

sweet anvil
iron oriole
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i want Shanks to run into S-Hawk

sweet anvil
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Oda is like the most ambiguous guy

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clever idol
digital spear
deep chasm
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also indirectly, if you assume zoro will become equal to or greater than someone like rayleigh in his prime, then naturally mihawk would also be in that tier

clever idol
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Its mihawk who first gave us an understanding of how powerful shanks was

sweet anvil
tranquil blade
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Mihawk was seen in super high regard until like Marineford, which was when people first started to doubt him

clever idol
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Hell its mihawk who was the first to give us a glimpse of what a great pirate was

tranquil blade
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but yeah I think Mihawk is crazy strong of course

sweet anvil
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Anyways

clever idol
scarlet nacelle
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i never liked mihawk because he acts almost exclusively as an obstacle for zoro to surpass
no other functions in the narrative until he got added to cross guild just recently

tranquil blade
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The people who call him weaker than Vista are memeing

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Well yeah he is pretty basic

sweet anvil
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What character do you guys have high hopes for

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This year

tranquil blade
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Dragon

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Oh

scarlet nacelle
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Uh

sweet anvil
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Dragon will make his move

clever idol
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My point is its incorrect to say mihawks strong because shanks is when oda's intention in the beginning was to use mihawk show that shanks was strong

tranquil blade
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Idk if Dragon is doing anything this year but I have high hopes for him

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sweet anvil
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Law should’ve just joined sword

tranquil blade
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He probably will

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His crew is so sorry there’s no point in being a pirate

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Might as well do a mihawk

iron oriole
digital spear
sweet anvil
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Bepo would be his perona

clever idol
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Sanji will get his coc momeny but the question is will he just get acoc right away

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I think he just might

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probably

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considering having normal CoC no longer matters

clever idol
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Loki pretty much did and zoro before him

digital spear
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(It turns out Sanji dooesnt have coc but Chopper has)

deep chasm
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and the whole purpose of anyone new getting CoC now is to fight immortals

iron oriole
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good chance he just goes straight to ACoC probably

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sweet anvil
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Ussop will get coc

tranquil blade
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pretty much everyone to get CoC from now on will go straight to acoc

scarlet nacelle
trim lily
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haha surely oda will give regen a real weakness other than acoc

iron oriole
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maybe a couple blows of normal Conq but Gaban is like "thats not right" or whatever

final trench
iron oriole
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then Sanji gets ACoC

sweet anvil
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What if sanji uses haki knots from luffy

clever idol
iron oriole
deep chasm
sweet anvil
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Let’s be real gang

clever idol
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deep chasm
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yes I just think thats separate

sage temple
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People keep posting a panel of them clashing

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their CoC in general can be getting stronger, its different to unlock ACoC

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and gaban didn't sense any conqueror spirit from sanji

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made a point of that

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there should be some extent to where you have to learn to use it as a technique, rather than just oh youre pretty strong you magically know how to use ACoC

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He used ACoC at only 16 and he probably had it before the castle incident

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He was slightly annoyed by Ragnir and upped the ACoC immediately 😭

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clever idol
tranquil blade
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I figure since coc grows with the strength of the user, any other applications of it also depend on the strength of the user

iron oriole
sage temple
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And I doubt his body could even handle using ACoC since he still has the maturity of a teenager

clever idol
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Zoro and loki were already at a higher levrl of coc hence why they could use it

deep chasm
tranquil blade
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I think Rayleigh didnt teach him either because he thought Luffy wasnt ready yet or because he wanted Luffy to learn some things on his own

clever idol
iron oriole
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to me this implies that Rayleigh was gonna somewhat teach him how to control it better

clever idol
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I think ray did teach him how to control his coc

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But it wasnt strong enough to utilize it as acoc

trim lily
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the teaching here just refers to the normal Aura thing

clever idol
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Exactly

deep chasm
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yes

trim lily
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ie. luffy not accidentally knocking out his crew

iron oriole
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yeah its referring to the knockout blasts

clever idol
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Yep

latent hamlet
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Just a thought but uh
Who decided 2 years? Luffy or ray?

iron oriole
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Rayleigh iirc

clever idol
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Imagine if he said 3

iron oriole
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i think thats how long he decided it would take Luffy to learn the basic haki's etc & get strong enough to enter the New World

clever idol
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The world would look totally different

latent hamlet
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Luffy develops gear 4.5

iron oriole
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lol i didn't even notice Rayleigh out right says, he'll teach the basics of Conq

latent hamlet
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Rayleigh: for coc...u need to stare at them really hard

clever idol
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I still think future sight was not as necessary for him as luffy made it tho

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Like it hasnf really been as pivotal as i thought it would have been compared to acoa and acoc

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He barely uses it in a way where we can obviously tell

iron oriole
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cant wait for Luffy to be an obs killer too

latent hamlet
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Tbh future sight u wouldnt know unless they say it

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or show a panel of like a quick moment of it happening

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Cuz then u get it mixed with standard obs which is already a 6th sense

clever idol
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Oda also does the little * next to their heads sometimes

clever idol
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I lowkey dont think he will because it wouldnt make sense for it to work on top tiers

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And using it on fodder is less effective than it knocking them out

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Maybe itll be used on some commander tier characters

latent hamlet
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It'll probably be used a few times just to show he has it and then it won't matter against a true opponent

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Its the problem with power cancelation imo

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Shutting down a power is great but in terms of seeing stuff its kinda boring

iron oriole
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yeah i doubt Shanks is cutting obs off for Mihawk

clever idol
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I just think its there to wank shanks

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Which is dumb

latent hamlet
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Which i think is an issue with imu too
His regen immortality stuff is boring

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Now unless he starts pulling off devil magic shit that u see in other fiction its just meh

clever idol
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Even if u turn off the regen the most we got is a scary tail and bite

latent hamlet
clever idol
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Imu's bag of tricks will run incredibly deep so im not worried

latent hamlet
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Honestly the covenant backlash is arguably the most interesting thing about him

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It makes him more like a true devil pact / summoner vibe

clever idol
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He will probably have some of the most abilities we will see in op

iron oriole
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as of rn, i dont think theres any real limits on what Imu might do

clever idol
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Yep

iron oriole
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shit Imu was even writing the manga at one point G5Laugh

clever idol
latent hamlet
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The Manga is just one long devil contract

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Until the luffy word comes out and punches imu

dense rapids
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Oda spoiled us

iron oriole
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Manga Manga no mi

dense rapids
latent hamlet
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Plot twist: Oda saw Mephistopheles and was like that's imu now

dense rapids
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All of those Imu plushie pictures mean something

latent hamlet
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The one with the skeleton and guitar will be Brook and Imu

iron oriole
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Imu gets revealed & they'll look exactly like Oda

latent hamlet
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The real reason Saturn died is cuz imu just wanted some1 better to control

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"That garling is a bum but at least he's no saturn..."

dense rapids
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I do wonder what character Nerona Imu will actually resemble

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If all VC people have somewhat of a counterpart in their lineage during present time

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If Mihawk is Nerona it’ll prob just be him

iron oriole
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i really dont want Mihawk to be a Nerona

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tbh i want Imu to be the only one left

dense rapids
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I don’t mind it just hope it makes sense if it happens

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Inb4 Imu is a clown 😭

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Buggy stocks through the roof

iron oriole
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like i just think... if i'm gonna go through all this effort to lie about the world actually having a ruler & especially an immortal one... i dont want little descendants running around making my name known

sage temple
dense rapids
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I subscribe to Meek's new theory

iron oriole
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Would make sense e

iron oriole
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or they were the only Nerona at the time of VC

dense rapids
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There’s not a Nerona knight or Gorosei that we know of (unless it’s Mihawk)

iron oriole
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like something happened to the entire family & then just never had more children

dense rapids
iron oriole
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well, the opposite really if there actually is more

dense rapids
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Why would Imu lower his own family tho

iron oriole
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like even among the CDs, Imu's existence is known to few

dense rapids
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So you think nobody knows Imu is Nerona?

iron oriole
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i think the Gorosei & HKs might at most

dense rapids
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I could see that

iron oriole
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like i said, i'd just want very few to even know of the name Nerona & i think it makes sense

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Those that have met Imu are people they're able to control & presumably kill on a moments notice, thats quite the security on the secret of Nerona being the ruler of the world

dense rapids
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So imu pulled the same thing as that one guy from that one thing

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A massacre

iron oriole
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could have been a price Imu had to pay to get their powers

clever idol
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So imu would be the only nerona alive?

dense rapids
iron oriole
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iron oriole
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it doesn't have to be

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Imu could have learned of knowledge about it

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sacrificed their entire bloodline to the blood serpent (red line) to obtain their power

dense rapids
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Yea

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Like in Skypeia when Kalgara had to sacrifice his daughter to the serpent

iron oriole
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i think it works really well with the whole devil theme Imu has

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if their powers actually come from a deal/contract with something else

dense rapids
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I think he’s siphoning power from the Sea Devil

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Hm then I wonder what the arrow symbol means on the mural on both Loki and the serpent

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Obv they're linked but linked how is the question

dense rapids
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Could simply be how old cultures portrayed there warriors

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Loki being the bane of the blood serpent

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The slayer of it

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The only one who can pierce it

sage temple
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Yeah I could see that

sage temple
dense rapids
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Older cultures portrayed their heroes slaying a beast and wearing its skin

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Or like every giant figure on the mural

dense rapids
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Or rather the giant from the VC

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Since that’s who’s being portrayed on the mural

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I think itr's about Loki's eyes ngl

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No other explanation seems likely

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With the 2nd sovereign being born soon, I think the Sea Kings were referring to the blossoming of their ancient powers, Loki awakens his later compared to Shirahoshi

dense rapids
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I think that’s just a genetic factor we will see from pure blooded ancient giants during the VC it’s possible all of them had those eyes

iron oriole
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Loki slays the Blood-soaked Serpent & becomes invincible

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It’s like the giant is wearing the snake’s skin

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The planet with that same pattern kinda eliminates it simply being the skin of the serpent or something

iron oriole
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i'd be more inclined to believe that AG is meant to be Loki if they were wielding a hammer

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Ragnirs old, so it would have been known about

trim lily
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loki gives his hammer to usopp and gains a big ass pole

dense rapids
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We don’t know what a pure blood ancient giant looks like yet

iron oriole
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the first giant sword to become relevant

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nobody tell mailbox

sage temple
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Do we know the races of his parents

keen quiver
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If the snake eyes thing is just a trait ancient giants have

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I won't be suprised

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Ancient giants dont seem to look that human

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keen quiver
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Going off oars, oars Jr and the numbers

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Loki just got the height, horns and eyes

iron oriole
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numbers are failed clones tbf

keen quiver
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If this lines up

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Failed in size

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Considering they weren't even the right size to begin with or shape.

dense rapids
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Naw wait I’m wrong

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Oars is the only pure blood

keen quiver
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But those trairs line up with oars

sage temple
dense rapids
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Oars just didn’t have any eyes

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These eyes don't even come up in the past of AG

keen quiver
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And why imu was like "one man can't shoulder all that history.||

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A lot of that mural from the middle right side is hard to even say anything concrete for

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keen quiver
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A lot of this mythology has the giants spawning from bizzare places

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Wouldn't be suprised if that was the case for giants

dense rapids
keen quiver
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I think its ymir's armpits

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In mythology

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For the ice giants

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I was right

dense rapids
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Yea in Norse the world was built from the remains of Ymir

keen quiver
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Whoever question marked me

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You need to do some research on the Norse origin myth

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Because its actually what happens

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For the first ice giants

sage temple
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Ragnir is a tool that Harald likely could've used

keen quiver
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It depends if that's literal

sage temple
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Yeah but the symbol seemed intentional

keen quiver
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A lot of that mural doesn't feel literal to me

sage temple
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Well it's not like I'm saying Loki literally has a mark of arrows around his torso

keen quiver
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Also feel oda likely borrowed the world serpent

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For that imagery

sage temple
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Yeah true but Loki's eyes being the very thing that determined who kills Harald in that prophecy seems like it's more of an irregular thing that doesn't come naturally

keen quiver
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Jury still out on this till I hear more from this arc.

fast pagoda
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Just saw a guy on Xitter roleplaying as Charlos

sage temple
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Because if it were genetic, what if they both had the eyes

keen quiver
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Not unheard of in anime for a genetic trait to randomly kick in

iron oriole
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funny how as far as we know, Harald never saw Loki's eyes

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trim lily
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iron oriole
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her eye awakening

sage temple
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She can't read poneglyphs yet?

iron oriole
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no

dense rapids
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Still wanna know where big mom found a three eyed

iron oriole
dense rapids
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Yea

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Pudding is the only three eyed we know of in the series

iron oriole
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like BM was just trying to roll the dice with 1 go

dense rapids
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Besides her unknown father

iron oriole
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like you'd think BM would have had a couple kids with him at least

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up your odds of an early awakening

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iron oriole
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the eye awakening to read Poneglyphs could be a rare thing among 3 eyed tribe members for all we know

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like if all members could do it, then logic would say Puddings Father could

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so just keep him around as a tool BrookShrug

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unless its only for the women of the tribe but even then that would imply some skips in generations

sage temple
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Hm yeah

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But taking everything into account Loki being linked to the Hellfire Serpent as a result of that arrow-pattern is probably the most likely thing to happen

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It being a genetic thing could also happen but seems awfully unlikely

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Also I remember Loki's eyes glowing that one time, it kinda seemed un-natural imo

iron oriole
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i mean... i think its a bit of a reach just because of a belt & his eyes but none 0% ig

sage temple
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Not really a stretch at all, this is one of the only consistent symbols seen throughout the mural

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Loki being given that same symbol makes it very likely that he's linked to the serpentine figure in some way

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And even if his eyes are a result of a recessive genetic trait, the link between Loki and the serpent on the mural is pretty much bound to happen some other way lol

iron oriole
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i think its just an AG to symbolise they were also against Imu

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not that its meant to be Loki

sage temple
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So the giant on the mural that looks suspiciously JUST like Loki isn't actually representing him

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Interesting

iron oriole
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the giant on the mural that looks suspiciously like an ancient giant

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@sage temple you might like this one

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Like this is overwhelmingly likely ngl

sage temple
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"It's time for readers to stop underestimating Loki" what an amazing hook

iron oriole
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slap a helmet on either of these and you have your mural AG

sage temple
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Compared to the giant that already has a helmet

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The giant that has a helmet is already a lot more likely to be represented there

dense rapids
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Loki about to get rekt by Imu 😭

trim lily
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poor loki

iron oriole
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Loki didn't deserve the Morj curse

trim lily
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well he might

trim lily
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shanks evil twin was such a stupid theory

iron oriole
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i think everyone & their mother had a Shanks twin theory

sage temple
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Oh so now the curse doesn't count

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Lol ok

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Don't act like everything Morj says doesn't happen if it clearly has happened before

trim lily
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hyperbole moment

iron oriole
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come back to me when Morj does something cool like Tekking calling out The Sun God in Legoland being Road because of his shoes

dense rapids
sage temple
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Not always wrong

iron oriole
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tbh i've never watched a Morj video, saw the whole raid failing fiasco & laughed at him

tawny panther
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Mori videos during Wano had to be the funniest lol

golden valley
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Morj didn’t say anything wild in his Loki video

dense rapids
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I don’t watch any op YouTubers

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99% of them just steal their theories from Reddit or something

golden valley
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Morj literally just said what most of the fandom has been thinking about Loki

hot cairn
sage temple
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Yeah I've been saying what Morj just said about Loki

hot cairn
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they’re nothing burgers

trim lily
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though i’m just uninterested in watching analysis or theories about one piece in general

dense rapids
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I like watching chapter reactions

sage temple
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I don't get the argument "Har har Loki loses to Imu because Morj said otherwise" and then instantly caving in at the Shanks evil twin video

dense rapids
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I watch the Japanese YouTubers for theories

hot cairn
dense rapids
tawny panther
sage temple
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I don't recognize those mb I usually just think people are stupid when they say stupid things

golden valley
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What I can say is, Morj theory videos are more coherent than the majority in this server and when Morj does make a good theory, its already something someone else has theorized on reddit or twitter

final trench
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No shame

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Greenbull being zoros father is nutty

trim lily
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i think i’ve been exposed to too many theories here to like one piece theorycrafting

sage temple
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I do like this last Meek theory tho

dapper tree
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yikes

sage temple
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Ragnir has a fruit of a squirrel that can manifest the elements of all different realms on Yggdrasil

dapper tree
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liking a meek theory

sage temple
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Would be cool

tawny panther
sage temple
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Ngl

sage temple
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I guess Meek was copying them

dense rapids
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I don’t have the link

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It’s in the chapter thread

trim lily
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jotunheim being wind is random

sage temple
#

Oh

scarlet nacelle
trim lily
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but it’s a very easy conclusion to come to

scarlet nacelle
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none of them really worth listening to

sage temple
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Ragnir is a goated weapon then

trim lily
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i don’t think you can accuse people of stealing for it

dense rapids
final trench
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Oh brother

trim lily
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theory, japan BatChest

sage temple
scarlet nacelle
fallen meteor
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never forget

dense rapids
golden valley
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When have Japanese theorists got a theory right

dense rapids
spice cairn
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They have a dennys in Enies Lobby?

golden valley
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Youtubers specifically

golden valley
sage temple
golden valley
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Is that a name or theory

dense rapids
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Basically saying that there’s someone who’s controlling the WG similar to sugar

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Pre Imu reveal

trim lily
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i don’t think imu is anything like sugar

dense rapids
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Not literally

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Immortal
Controls people

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That type of thing

trim lily
#

ehh

dense rapids
fallen meteor
spice cairn
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Big Mom please save this arc

trim lily
fallen meteor
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damn it

spice cairn
tawny panther
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Japanese theorists : Rocks is related to Teach

when it’s revealed : “Japanese theorists are the best (as if it wasn’t one of the most obvious things ) “

clever idol
tawny panther
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the fact that there was so many mfs in denial about it is whats funny.. legit had people in this server saying “ he just looks up to Rocks but not related to him “ @dense rapids

spice cairn
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I too pick my boogers, claim it York's true body and will eventually be correct

tidal ice
dense rapids
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Yea before the saber of xebec only 4 people names were going around to be rocks son

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Shanks Buggy BB and Dragon

latent hamlet
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Guys I have a theory
BB is actually the son of rocks

Theory made: when BB was revealed as son of rocks

dense rapids
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Shit was so obvious

tawny panther
vital heart
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Aloha!

dense rapids
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Had people literally raging in here when that Gaban reveal happened 🤣🤣🤣😭

tawny panther
#

that was Earl #1 agenda for a while lmao

blazing mantle
tidal ice
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it should have been shiki ZoroCope

blazing mantle
dense rapids
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The slander was amazing

blazing mantle
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It’ll happen

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Just wait

dense rapids
blazing mantle
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😭

shadow python
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I got enough Shiki in the Shakky flashback I'm good

blazing mantle
tawny panther
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Oda then put Shiki in Elbaf just to backseat him the entire flashback lmao stand back and let 20 yr old Kaido take all your shine 🤣

blazing mantle
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So we were right

small ember
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Ngl I never got the Shiki obsession

shadow python
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He was. He came with Rocks Wb and some other people

dense rapids
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Shiki in Elbaph 😭✌️🌹

small ember
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He’s cool and all but still

blazing mantle
small ember
dense rapids
blazing mantle
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It’s cause he was made canon

rich hornet
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Shiki made the most of every appearance he had, I’ll give him that

small ember
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He’s cool but I find Gaban way more interesting

shadow python
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As a rival of Roger Shiki is still more impressive than any other movie villain that came after him

dense rapids
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People were saying Shiki was manipulating the Gorosei 😭😭😭😭

small ember
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These are valid points

blazing mantle
blazing mantle
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Probably cause oda wrote him

dense rapids
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They swore he was some mastermind

blazing mantle
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I thought he was just in the underworld of elbaf

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I didn’t know people were investing that hard

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Has Oda explained that yet

dense rapids
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Shiki truthers were everywhere

latent hamlet
dense rapids
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They disappeared tho

latent hamlet
#

Shiki gonna repeat that for 10 years

blazing mantle
#

He’s still planning

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Trust

dapper tree
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shiki for lodestar

latent hamlet
#

The shiki movie was actually Canon
Cuz oda cant be bothered

dapper tree
#

nawww,next movie is shiki 2

tawny panther
#

2 former Rocks Pirates & Rocks son .. they probably ain’t even realize it lol

dapper tree
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ehhh, WB may have know

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maybe

dapper tree
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would be interesting if he did

final trench
#

Shiki saved kiddBBWise

sage temple
tawny panther
# dapper tree ehhh, WB may have know

yeah i’m still torn on if i think he knew or not that Teach was Rocks son .. cause i can totally see Oda going the route of he never knew cause he never cared to try and make a connection cause he just viewed Teach as a son

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granted they got the same face so idk if that excuse will work lol

dense rapids
sage temple
final trench
dapper tree
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I'll just go with WB knew

final trench
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They’re gonna help luffy on elbaf

tawny panther
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they’ve been through a lot ..nothing can break them

final trench
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Roger and wb sat back, shiki will pullthrough

dapper tree
#

Shiki has an ancient weapon

final trench
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Shikis putting together a team

dense rapids
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Surprised shiki fans still don’t think he’s burn scar

final trench
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I just know it

tawny panther
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Shiki in 2026 trying to come back on the seas with all the Worst Generation running it

dapper tree
final trench
#

Nah mmbf is either

Ex marine
Barbell/sunbell
new character

sage temple
tawny panther
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they still got moved out the way by the worst gen

final trench
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You just dont quit

dense rapids
dapper tree
sage temple
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Even if he's imprisoned for the past 6 years, the story of the mmbf could come from his 8 years at sea

dapper tree
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lol

final trench
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Gluttonous heathen

sage temple
#

In this theory his eyes would be his burn scar

tawny panther
#

Burn Scar will probably be someone we haven’t met yet

dense rapids
sage temple
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The Burn Scar could be Loki

tawny panther
#

he never went to FMI

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he said himself he never made it that far

sage temple
dense rapids
sage temple
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I'm pretty sure someone clarified how it was burn scar, not marked by flames

dapper tree
dense rapids
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It is

dapper tree
#

bruh, what isn't loki

dense rapids
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Which has nothing to do with Loki

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Since he has no scars…

sage temple
#

Okay so Loki could've been burnt by the flames of the hellfire serpent, it has fire in it's name

tawny panther
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lmao

sage temple
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It's shown on the mural breathing fire

dense rapids
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I’ll talk to you guys tomorrow gn

sage temple
#

You're saying lmao but you're not really saying how this theory is invalid

tawny panther
dapper tree
#

You can't convince him otherwise

sage temple
#

Super easy to send gifs instead of telling me how I'm wrong

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You can't stipulate anything about it that invalidates it

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Lmao

dapper tree
#

Loki is the greatest of all time and has everything

sage temple
#

I guess so

dapper tree
#

You know so

sage temple
#

To each their own pasta

olive sigil
tawny panther
olive sigil
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Guys click at 19:35

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This is the greatest moment in the history of one piece

dapper tree
olive sigil
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It made me shed a tear

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This is the best day of my life

sage temple
olive sigil
#

I worked so hard for this

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My hard work finally paid off

dapper tree
olive sigil
sage temple
#

Perfect for someone to make up the name burn scar man after seeing his eyes which were the most abnormal thing about him since his birth

olive sigil
#

COW PIECE IS REAL 🐮 🐄 LETSBUGGINGGO LETSBUGGINGGO LETSBUGGINGGO LETSBUGGINGGO

dense rapids
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Loki didn’t even make it to the red line how could he have gotten the Poneglyph from fmi 🤣

dapper tree
#

Cow piece can't be stopped

olive sigil
tawny panther
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you ain’t get to FMI if you never even made it far enough to make it to the red line

dense rapids
dapper tree
#

don't worry

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Socrates weill say he just flew

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Easy fix

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Come on guys

dense rapids
#

🤣🤣🤣

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Burn Scar with 0 scars on his body

dapper tree
#

reminds me of this oldie

dense rapids
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You think if burn scar was a giant people would say that

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How do you miss a literal giant ship

dapper tree
#

but it's possible

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We don't klnow if he is

frail kindle
dapper tree
#

It can't be disproven

dense rapids
dapper tree
#

it couild be loki

tidal ice
#

loki mentioned

dapper tree
#

You can't assume it's not

vital heart
#

Aloha!

dense rapids
#

Loki doesn’t have a scar

dapper tree
dense rapids
#

Wdym we see his body

dapper tree
sage temple
#

He didn't make it far enough to meet the Holy Knights

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Or CDs I guess

dapper tree
sage temple
#

Who was he referring to here

dense rapids
#

Tf was Loki doing for 8 years to not even make it to the red line

sage temple
#

Just humans from the WG or Holy Knights specifically?

tawny panther
#

the furthest we know Loki made it as of now is Whole Cake but at some point he ran into Shanks we just don’t know where he was when he did

dapper tree
sage temple
dense rapids
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It’s not a joke

dapper tree
#

it's ok

sage temple
sage temple
dense rapids
#

The celestial dragons

sage temple
dense rapids
#

….

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Yes they’re celestial dragons

sage temple
#

Yeah, Holy Knights are a group of Celestial Dragons

dense rapids
#

And they reside in the holy land….

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A 20 sq ft piece of land

sage temple
#

Do we know where they actually reside there

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Holy size

keen quiver
#

Insane bits

dense rapids
tidal ice
#

wonder what the gorosei's houses look like

keen quiver
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All of them live there

sage temple
keen quiver
#

Everytime in the story we're shown where the celestials live

sage temple
tawny panther
keen quiver
#

Its marijoa

sage temple
#

Can you answer anything without being snarky about it

latent hamlet
sage temple
#

But the Gorosei say "all this way"

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Why say that if they live right next to you

latent hamlet
#

They're sustained by the magic if anything at this point

keen quiver
#

Also the holy temple they hang out is up there too

tidal ice
tawny panther
#

yeah that’s what i was thinking too .. Imu just makes them stay up 24/7

sage temple
keen quiver
#

Mari joa

sage temple
#

Oh alr

dense rapids
#

Bro doesn’t read the chapters

keen quiver
#

Its up there

dense rapids
#

Just spoilers

sage temple
latent hamlet
#

Saturn was also seen eating food
But I doubt its for sustenance

dense rapids
keen quiver
#

Likely on the other side

latent hamlet
#

Probably just cuz he felt like eating

sage temple
#

Yeah

keen quiver
#

Of pangea castle

#

Aka the other side of the holy land

sage temple
#

So can't Loki have gone to Fishman Island without getting far enough to meet Holy Knights?

keen quiver
#

Which could be decently far

dense rapids
#

He said he didn’t go that far

keen quiver
#

Its right there

dense rapids
#

Meaning he didn’t reach the red line

keen quiver
#

Fmi is like next to the red line

dense rapids
#

It’s literally under it

sage temple
tawny panther
#

yeah loki words imply he never made it that “far” at all to even run into one so if he was right below mariejois then he wouldn’t say “ he never made it that FAR”

keen quiver
#

Socrates

sage temple
#

Like 10s of thousands of meters

keen quiver
#

Go up

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Just go up

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Its not that far

#

Or go across

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Turn around

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Then go up

dense rapids
#

Literally

keen quiver
#

He can fly

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What excuse would loki have

#

Outside of not bothering

dense rapids
sage temple
#

At least not that we know of

#

Why the sob emoji am I wrong

tawny panther
#

if he can jump up from underworld to where Imu is then he can probably just jump on the red line , same way harald just casually jumped off the red line

clever idol
#

Still insane btw

sage temple
clever idol
#

How tf do u stick that landing man

keen quiver
#

People underestimate

tawny panther
#

literally

keen quiver
#

How tall the tree is

tawny panther
#

Harald doing that so casually is crazy lol

keen quiver
#

If he can jump that red like should not he a problem

dense rapids
keen quiver
dense rapids
tawny panther
keen quiver
#

Water doesn't soften the landing

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Lmao

#

😭

#

You'd literally splat

dense rapids
sage temple
tawny panther
keen quiver
#

Its a durability feat to survive that fall

tranquil blade
clever idol
dense rapids
#

That’s literally the only place he could’ve jumped

dense rapids
#

In the water

keen quiver
#

Harald:"Rocks drop the water bucket or we'll die to fall damage."

sage temple
dense rapids
tranquil blade
#

but yeah there's mountains in the underworld that dont even reach half way up to the branches of the sun realm

#

The tree is super tall

dense rapids
tawny panther
#

I do hope Oda shows Loki travels on the sea before this arc is over , not cause of his fight with shanks but just to see what islands he visited what pirates & marines he might’ve encountered

dense rapids
#

I’m not theorizing

keen quiver
#

The ancient weapon triton

#

A water bucket with infinite water

dense rapids
#

Harald literally jumped off the line into the water

keen quiver
#

For stuff he's not gonna show

dense rapids
dense rapids
#

Harald jumped to the new world side

sage temple
tawny panther
keen quiver
#

Yeah but new marineford dint exist back then

dense rapids
sage temple
#

I thought it was on both side

keen quiver
#

So it would just be water

keen quiver
sage temple
keen quiver
#

Thats where lafitte

#

Was sitting

#

New headquarters

dense rapids
#

Wait

#

Why are we even discussing this

#

Why does it matter 🤣

keen quiver
#

Dint matter like 50 years ago

#

Just water regardless

sage temple
#

Or is a contender

grand flower
#

Hellbaph

spice cairn
sage temple
dense haven
#

damn zoro got demoted

dense rapids
#

Was about to like until I saw Sanji

dense haven
#

honestly loki and ragnir could easily replace zoro and chopper respectively

#

they're much better

remote maple
sage temple
craggy vapor
#

imagine OP ended here

sage temple
dense rapids
remote maple
#

buggy and xebec having similar posters is funny

dense rapids
#

I put xebec and buggy face half in half and caused a uproar

sage temple
#

Might be true

remote maple
#

orrrr, Loki is the natural enemy of imu

dense rapids
#

D is the natural enemy of god

#

Elbaph is of the D BBWise

remote maple
#

loki is D BBWise

dense rapids
#

Warlan D. Loki BBWise

#

Warland vs Figarland

remote maple
#

Loki D. Loki: prince of aura

sage temple
#

What a thumbnail

remote maple
#

nice

celest mauve
sage temple
dense rapids
#

Waiting for the moment buggy reveals he knows about Nika

deep chasm
#

elbaf trio and it includes sanji tho...

#

idk about that

#

shouldve thrown hajrudin or shamrock in that one

dense rapids
deep chasm
#

ragnir is stronger than rocks after all

vital heart
deep chasm
#

at least itd make sense narratively BrookShrug

dense haven
#

hajruding glazing after the flashback

deep chasm
#

gunko loki luffy also would make sense

dense haven