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What do you think is more likely? Garp name the technique after his son or dragon invented it
I agree but just because it has sentience
Wait until it’s revealed yoru is imu
Prove that 
if you take that as it being bad then thats on you
Did you mean it as a bad thing?
until we find out yoru is actually a chipmunk that ryuma himself couldnt defeat
Regardless saying someone depends on their weapon in a fighting series is just stating the obvious
😭
If you didn't mean it as a bad thing then ok
Lmao
Dragon invented it
Dance if you powercliffed the op verse in 1 chapter
I hope Loki's tattoos are given importance
I'm looking for a Minecraft friend.
this is a One Piece server
Just wait for him
Theyre the sun
Dragon will powercliff the old gen and majority of the current verse
at the end of the day though, he loses to Tama
do we think Tama knows how to hurt the holy knights, might have to go back and recruit her
I miss the tana kick (as strong as gear 2 luffy btw)
She does know but she had to stay back to protect wano
She would be the best option

A little stronger
If someone had to join
this is a fair decision, hopefully she teaches yamato her ways
It should be Bonney

tbh its a good job that GB walked away after Shanks warned him
bonney is actually the worst option
he wasn't ready for Tama
that disgusts me
Not Loki?
And you’re telling me Loki isn’t
Wait who are the options in your eyes
I fear loki has aura
so that alone makes him a better option
Yes
are you calling Tama an animal?
Bonney is joy girl that’s enough for me
if so it better be a GOAT
Loki doesn’t even make sense
No
The ones she controls
He ruins the crew dynamic
false
He has too much aura. Oda would have to nerf him if he joins the crew
Why fight when she can send her faithful servants
Not necessarily options, just people who've been theorized over the past few years.
Vivi>Carrot>Yamato>Loki>Tama>Momo>Bonney
him joining the crew would make a massive power imbalance and result in him getting HARD nerfed
GB isnt worthy to face tama
this is true he wont be able to join for that reason
I agree
i have plenty of proof that Tama is top 1 by herself
Bonney is easily second
no she is not
bonney is last
at best she could go over momo maybe
but even then no
I agree
bonney more horrible
loki wouldnt make sense but the cool factor still makes him a better option
Momo is amazing
Bonney is definitely a better pick than Momo, Tama, or Loki
A plain sheet of paper is more interesting than Yamato
Womo
Yamato is also cool and made a cool relationship with luffy
I don’t hate tama tbh
only reason why Tama didn't join straight away is because the power dynamic would be thrown off
Zoro isn't strong enough yet
Vivi is better than Bonney so I don’t need to explain
Vivi is joining back up soon
Vivi > Loki > Bonney > Tama > Momo > Yamato > Carrot (I really suffered under all the nakama talk during wano because it was between the worst ones)
I fear this is a horrible list
Swap momo and carrot and I don’t hate this
Con D Oriano > Vivi > Loki > Tama > Yamato > rest
No?
Loki is too strong
Honestly, I think Momo would be worse than Yamato
To join
What is this scaling
This still automatically makes him cooler than most
He has a much better reason to stay in wano than Yamato does
Momo is so annoying there is no way he was joining
He would be cool but doesn’t make sense at all
Tama should've joined
He would just be Sanji
tama is fair
Momo had too many duties in Wano for me to think he would ever join
I dont think tama was the best option but tama would be a reasonable choice as a new apprentice
Awakened Tama could control all Gorosei Demon Zoans too
true
i got a whole bunch of reasons why i don't believe loki will be, or should be a straw hat. but i've aired them out so many times im just not gonna bother today
I mean
Peak
yea loki cant be a strawhat cuz hes too strong and too tall
Tbh I wanted to ragebait a little theyre about the same for me, because I liked them during Wano as a Duo. So im glad Yamato sticked with Momo in Wano
(Wouldve also liked Momo and Yamato to join together)
thats about it
Bonney and tama meeting would be cutw
if he was weaker and smaller he could join but otherwise no
oda will never him anyway
Bonney should have stayed on Egghead
Only tama, two apprentices is nasty
sh loki will be usopp level
And died ?
sure
Roger was nasty?
as for the size I'm sure oda can come up with some bs since loki is a shapeshifter

What did she do 😭
^
yes thats why we're blessed we didnt have to watch a story about roger
I would melt when I'd see their interaction..
nothing really
Ive never seen Luffy be so interested in someone so intently, has there been anyone else who he longed for so much?
The Loki size unironically is the smallest (lol) reason why Loki cant join
oda will nerf loki to the ground if he joins so power is not an issue
i actually like Bonney 
Idk how he would do that
Fr her attitude is so fitting
I dont wanna see loki nerfed
loki gonna get nerfed anyway, but if he joins he'll actually become a different character by how much weaker hed get
and sanji
But i would like to see sail with the shs for a lil bit and then do his own thing
Bb is getting Loki in a Davy back fight so none of this is a problem
Yeah same thing since they’re equal

Bonney joining the crew would be funny too just because people would mald over Bonnika
What if Zoro and Sanji just become Yonko level this arc
again
WHAT then
I'd quit reading and hate on OP together with Naruto fans
Loki is stronger than some yonko
just the same way he did big mom in wano
Sanji being equal to zoro is so nothing since he never gets the same level of portrayal zoro does
this may be true but being weaker than zoro sounds better than being weaker than sanji somehow
Ragnir*
True
Well yeah Zoro is stronger
I think it's just more a popularity thing there
Exactly my point tbh
and based on their personalities
Well they’re meant to be pretty close
Yea which is why oda saying that isnt really meaningful to the story
Is Socrates / Mosa around?
Individually so together theyre as strong as all 4 ...
Socrates was
Nothing really changes they’re either equal or Zoro slightly stronger
Socrates is Mosa
Which means nothing to me anyways
And yet sanji seldom gets the kind of moments zoro does
I’m mad at him
whats new
Socrates being Mosa would make a lot sense


You ruined my life
My fault 😔
sanji should unlock conquerus haki in this arc no?
Yes
Can't wait for Loki to get revenge for his friends
Yes
I jumped on YouTube to watch a hockey podcast and I got a suggestion for a morj video
Life ruined
Ragnir teaching Sanji acoc
Sanji will just use the POL
My condolences
Mihawk is lowkey the greatest leech oat
Piece of love
close enough

i remember being in the server talking bout that drop when it happened
actual hissy fits being thrown
I'm still thinking about that shanks dream
yeah people hated it
I was thinking about it and this guy is only a top tier because shanks is
Yeah
true, even attaching himself to the GOAT Buggy now too
loki should join the gigant pirates and be their leader, and make part of the grand fleet
and thats if Shanks only uses a sword (which he might)
Thats why I wont agree with Mihawk > Shanks until Oda actually confirms it
Gunko realizing they freed the owner of the animals she tortured
Oda wouldn’t confirm something like that
i want Shanks to run into S-Hawk
Oda is like the most ambiguous guy
as a shanks>mihawk believer this isnt true considering the title of WSS along makes Mihawk a top tier
This actually isnt correct. In the beginning of the series it was mihawk who gave credence to shanks power because at the time shanks had nothing we knew of. Its in part what came from mihawk meeting shankd amd then wb mentioning their duel later on
Not per words but per manga
also indirectly, if you assume zoro will become equal to or greater than someone like rayleigh in his prime, then naturally mihawk would also be in that tier
Its mihawk who first gave us an understanding of how powerful shanks was
We didn’t really understand the ceiling of power at that point though
Mihawk was seen in super high regard until like Marineford, which was when people first started to doubt him
Hell its mihawk who was the first to give us a glimpse of what a great pirate was
but yeah I think Mihawk is crazy strong of course
Anyways
Which is why mihawk was used as the ceiling in the beginning
i never liked mihawk because he acts almost exclusively as an obstacle for zoro to surpass
no other functions in the narrative until he got added to cross guild just recently
The people who call him weaker than Vista are memeing
Well yeah he is pretty basic
!wss
kuzan
Uh
My point is its incorrect to say mihawks strong because shanks is when oda's intention in the beginning was to use mihawk show that shanks was strong
Idk if Dragon is doing anything this year but I have high hopes for him
sanji should get some shine if hes getting CoC soon. Idk what other characters will be appearing this year, maybe KIdd if oda is smart
Law should’ve just joined sword
He probably will
notice how Sanji left with Gaban, someone who could teach him how to tap into his conq like Rayleigh taught Luffy
They fit as marine soldiers they even have a dresscode
true
Bepo would be his perona
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Sanji will get his coc momeny but the question is will he just get acoc right away
I think he just might
Loki pretty much did and zoro before him
(It turns out Sanji dooesnt have coc but Chopper has)
and the whole purpose of anyone new getting CoC now is to fight immortals
good chance he just goes straight to ACoC probably
I hate that this is the case, but yea
Ussop will get coc
He might have to in order to fight one of the knights this arc
pretty much everyone to get CoC from now on will go straight to acoc
i doubt you can really teach coc to someone
it sort of just has to happen you know?
if sanji is gonna get coc it has to be derrived from something big going off
haha surely oda will give regen a real weakness other than acoc
maybe a couple blows of normal Conq but Gaban is like "thats not right" or whatever
Facts
then Sanji gets ACoC
What if sanji uses haki knots from luffy
It makes sense when u consider that ray said luffy needed to get stronger tp grow his coc amd loki zoro and sanji are all much stromger than that luffy atp.
you cant teach it like you can armament etc, but if someone has it you can teach them the basics of using it
I mean, zoro gets acoc at a level weaker than luffy got acoc
Something creative outside of haki and oda
Let’s be real gang
Yes but im talking about luffy at the start of the timeskip
Is Vista close to him though
yes I just think thats separate
People keep posting a panel of them clashing
their CoC in general can be getting stronger, its different to unlock ACoC
well gaban would first have to kown sanji is a conqueror
and gaban didn't sense any conqueror spirit from sanji
made a point of that
True I wonder who taught Loki to use Haki in general
there should be some extent to where you have to learn to use it as a technique, rather than just oh youre pretty strong you magically know how to use ACoC
He used ACoC at only 16 and he probably had it before the castle incident
He was slightly annoyed by Ragnir and upped the ACoC immediately 😭
there was also the panel of Sanji being surprised like Gaban told him something but Loki was loud & thats all we heard
well he still had like 40 years to train it
True but CoC in general is almost impossible to get from just training
Potentially but in my mind i think theres a level of coc u have to reach where u can use acoc and luffy at the ts wasnt there so he couldnt which is why ray didnt bother teaching him.
I figure since coc grows with the strength of the user, any other applications of it also depend on the strength of the user
there is, Rayleigh told Luffy not to use it until he could control who its targetting etc
And I doubt his body could even handle using ACoC since he still has the maturity of a teenager
Zoro and loki were already at a higher levrl of coc hence why they could use it
ray not teaching him is fine, the problem is it took him getting to a higher level than zoro for him to unlock it. And zoro didnt get taught it either
I think Rayleigh didnt teach him either because he thought Luffy wasnt ready yet or because he wanted Luffy to learn some things on his own
The teaching isnt really my main point here. But I dont think its inconsistent with luffy or zoro since both had mastery of ryuo and were unaware they could apply this concept to their coc until later.
to me this implies that Rayleigh was gonna somewhat teach him how to control it better
This is alsp a gopd point
I think ray did teach him how to control his coc
But it wasnt strong enough to utilize it as acoc
the teaching here just refers to the normal Aura thing
Exactly
yes
ie. luffy not accidentally knocking out his crew
yeah its referring to the knockout blasts
Yep
Just a thought but uh
Who decided 2 years? Luffy or ray?
Rayleigh iirc
i think thats how long he decided it would take Luffy to learn the basic haki's etc & get strong enough to enter the New World
The world would look totally different

Luffy develops gear 4.5
lol i didn't even notice Rayleigh out right says, he'll teach the basics of Conq
Love how luffy just had an affinity for all 3
I still think future sight was not as necessary for him as luffy made it tho
Like it hasnf really been as pivotal as i thought it would have been compared to acoa and acoc
He barely uses it in a way where we can obviously tell
cant wait for Luffy to be an obs killer too
Tbh future sight u wouldnt know unless they say it
or show a panel of like a quick moment of it happening
Cuz then u get it mixed with standard obs which is already a 6th sense
Oda also does the little * next to their heads sometimes
I wonder if oda will ever show this in the actual manga
I lowkey dont think he will because it wouldnt make sense for it to work on top tiers
And using it on fodder is less effective than it knocking them out
Maybe itll be used on some commander tier characters
It'll probably be used a few times just to show he has it and then it won't matter against a true opponent
Its the problem with power cancelation imo
Shutting down a power is great but in terms of seeing stuff its kinda boring
yeah i doubt Shanks is cutting obs off for Mihawk
Which i think is an issue with imu too
His regen immortality stuff is boring
Now unless he starts pulling off devil magic shit that u see in other fiction its just meh
Anyone with a crumb of coc should be resistant to this ability
Even if u turn off the regen the most we got is a scary tail and bite
"He can turn off your 6th sense!"
Bro
Just dodge better. He's literally in front of u

Imu's bag of tricks will run incredibly deep so im not worried
Honestly the covenant backlash is arguably the most interesting thing about him
It makes him more like a true devil pact / summoner vibe
He will probably have some of the most abilities we will see in op
as of rn, i dont think theres any real limits on what Imu might do
Yep
shit Imu was even writing the manga at one point 

The Manga is just one long devil contract
Until the luffy word comes out and punches imu
Oda spoiled us
Manga Manga no mi
Imu literally controlling Harald
Plot twist: Oda saw Mephistopheles and was like that's imu now
All of those Imu plushie pictures mean something
Imu: finally I got the greatest summon ever
Harald dies
Imu: FUCK! IM SUPPOSED TO USE MY ELDERS AGAIN??
The one with the skeleton and guitar will be Brook and Imu
Imu gets revealed & they'll look exactly like Oda
The real reason Saturn died is cuz imu just wanted some1 better to control
"That garling is a bum but at least he's no saturn..."
I do wonder what character Nerona Imu will actually resemble
If all VC people have somewhat of a counterpart in their lineage during present time
If Mihawk is Nerona it’ll prob just be him
I don’t mind it just hope it makes sense if it happens
Inb4 Imu is a clown 😭
Buggy stocks through the roof
like i just think... if i'm gonna go through all this effort to lie about the world actually having a ruler & especially an immortal one... i dont want little descendants running around making my name known
Another thing making it reasonable for Loki to have so much stuff
So you think imu wiped out the entire Nerona
I subscribe to Meek's new theory
after planting themself as ruler yeah
Would make sense e
or they were the only Nerona at the time of VC
There’s not a Nerona knight or Gorosei that we know of (unless it’s Mihawk)
like something happened to the entire family & then just never had more children
And you would assume they would be one of the most prestigious families in the holy land
well, the opposite really if there actually is more
Why would Imu lower his own family tho
to mask themself being on the throne, a lower "ranked" family wouldn't even be a thought to be a secret ruler
like even among the CDs, Imu's existence is known to few
So you think nobody knows Imu is Nerona?
i think the Gorosei & HKs might at most
I could see that
like i said, i'd just want very few to even know of the name Nerona & i think it makes sense
Those that have met Imu are people they're able to control & presumably kill on a moments notice, thats quite the security on the secret of Nerona being the ruler of the world
could have been a price Imu had to pay to get their powers
So imu would be the only nerona alive?
Sacrifices on the blood serpent
thats what i want yeah
Idk if the Hellfire Serpent is of Imu's Era
it doesn't have to be
Imu could have learned of knowledge about it
sacrificed their entire bloodline to the blood serpent (red line) to obtain their power
i think it works really well with the whole devil theme Imu has
if their powers actually come from a deal/contract with something else
I think he’s siphoning power from the Sea Devil
Hm then I wonder what the arrow symbol means on the mural on both Loki and the serpent
Obv they're linked but linked how is the question
Could simply be how old cultures portrayed there warriors
Loki being the bane of the blood serpent
The slayer of it
The only one who can pierce it
Yeah I could see that
If it was about culture then lots of Elbaphians would have it and not specifically Loki
Older cultures portrayed their heroes slaying a beast and wearing its skin
Or like every giant figure on the mural
Like Hercules and the Newman lion
Loki is the only one with fruit or ragnir
Or rather the giant from the VC
Since that’s who’s being portrayed on the mural
I think itr's about Loki's eyes ngl
No other explanation seems likely
With the 2nd sovereign being born soon, I think the Sea Kings were referring to the blossoming of their ancient powers, Loki awakens his later compared to Shirahoshi
I think that’s just a genetic factor we will see from pure blooded ancient giants during the VC it’s possible all of them had those eyes
Sigurd the Dragon Slayer vibes
Yea Sigurd works too
Loki slays the Blood-soaked Serpent & becomes invincible
I doubt it since Oars n em don't even have those eyes, and it seems more like a unique trait considering an entire prophecy identifies him with the eyes most likely
The planet with that same pattern kinda eliminates it simply being the skin of the serpent or something
i'd be more inclined to believe that AG is meant to be Loki if they were wielding a hammer
Ragnirs old, so it would have been known about
Oars wasn’t pure blooded
loki gives his hammer to usopp and gains a big ass pole
We don’t know what a pure blood ancient giant looks like yet
If the snake eyes thing is just a trait ancient giants have
I won't be suprised
Ancient giants dont seem to look that human
It's either that or the eyes and the eyes are something more unique to Loki himself
numbers are failed clones tbf
If this lines up
But still match the appearance of oars
Failed in size
Considering they weren't even the right size to begin with or shape.
But those trairs line up with oars
Yeah we haven't seen any type of eyes like these before
Oars just didn’t have any eyes
These eyes don't even come up in the past of AG
Could just be the snake is code for the giant race
And why imu was like "one man can't shoulder all that history.||
A lot of that mural from the middle right side is hard to even say anything concrete for
Yeah or it could be a mark of the link between Loki and the hellfire serpent
A lot of this mythology has the giants spawning from bizzare places
Wouldn't be suprised if that was the case for giants
Yea the middle right seems like it’s a mixture of both the first and second world while the left is the VC War
Yea in Norse the world was built from the remains of Ymir
Whoever question marked me
You need to do some research on the Norse origin myth
Because its actually what happens
For the first ice giants
Yeah but with that same pattern shown on Loki, the planet, and the serpent, it seems pretty much like they're linked in a way that goes outside just being able to use weapons
Ragnir is a tool that Harald likely could've used
It depends if that's literal
Yeah but the symbol seemed intentional
A lot of that mural doesn't feel literal to me
Well it's not like I'm saying Loki literally has a mark of arrows around his torso
Yeah true but Loki's eyes being the very thing that determined who kills Harald in that prophecy seems like it's more of an irregular thing that doesn't come naturally
Jury still out on this till I hear more from this arc.
Just saw a guy on Xitter roleplaying as Charlos
Because if it were genetic, what if they both had the eyes
Not unheard of in anime for a genetic trait to randomly kick in
funny how as far as we know, Harald never saw Loki's eyes
Yeah for sure but the very least says it's likely Loki is linked to the Hellfire Serpent
average twitter activities
Yeah it definitely could happen but in One Piece that seems like more of a Sanji thing
its gonna be a Pudding thing too eventually
How
her eye awakening
She can't read poneglyphs yet?
no
Still wanna know where big mom found a three eyed
is Pudding the only member of the 3 eyed BM has btw? bit weird if so
like BM was just trying to roll the dice with 1 go
Besides her unknown father
like you'd think BM would have had a couple kids with him at least
up your odds of an early awakening
Lisa saying genetic things kicking in randomly was talking about it skipping over generations though I'm pretty sure
the eye awakening to read Poneglyphs could be a rare thing among 3 eyed tribe members for all we know
like if all members could do it, then logic would say Puddings Father could
so just keep him around as a tool 
unless its only for the women of the tribe but even then that would imply some skips in generations
Hm yeah
But taking everything into account Loki being linked to the Hellfire Serpent as a result of that arrow-pattern is probably the most likely thing to happen
It being a genetic thing could also happen but seems awfully unlikely
Also I remember Loki's eyes glowing that one time, it kinda seemed un-natural imo
i mean... i think its a bit of a reach just because of a belt & his eyes but none 0% ig
Not really a stretch at all, this is one of the only consistent symbols seen throughout the mural
Loki being given that same symbol makes it very likely that he's linked to the serpentine figure in some way
And even if his eyes are a result of a recessive genetic trait, the link between Loki and the serpent on the mural is pretty much bound to happen some other way lol
the start of this sentence is what makes me say you're reaching a bit, calling the AG on the mural Loki
How is that a reach
i think its just an AG to symbolise they were also against Imu
not that its meant to be Loki
So the giant on the mural that looks suspiciously JUST like Loki isn't actually representing him
Interesting
the giant on the mural that looks suspiciously like an ancient giant
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If anything about One Piece has shown representation whatever looks suspiciously just like Loki is probably just Loki
@sage temple you might like this one
Like this is overwhelmingly likely ngl
I'll take a look
"It's time for readers to stop underestimating Loki" what an amazing hook
slap a helmet on either of these and you have your mural AG
Yeah, slap a helmet on either of these
Compared to the giant that already has a helmet
The giant that has a helmet is already a lot more likely to be represented there
Every time morj says something the opposite happens
Loki about to get rekt by Imu 😭
poor loki
Loki didn't deserve the Morj curse
well he might
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But uh
Okay
shanks evil twin was such a stupid theory
i think everyone & their mother had a Shanks twin theory
Oh so now the curse doesn't count
Lol ok
Don't act like everything Morj says doesn't happen if it clearly has happened before
hyperbole moment
come back to me when Morj does something cool like Tekking calling out The Sun God in Legoland being Road because of his shoes
A theory that’s been there since Marineford
tbh i've never watched a Morj video, saw the whole raid failing fiasco & laughed at him
Mori videos during Wano had to be the funniest lol
Morj didn’t say anything wild in his Loki video
I don’t watch any op YouTubers
99% of them just steal their theories from Reddit or something
Morj literally just said what most of the fandom has been thinking about Loki
yeah that’s basically his videos
Yeah I've been saying what Morj just said about Loki
they’re nothing burgers
i don’t either so i have no stake in this
though i’m just uninterested in watching analysis or theories about one piece in general
I like watching chapter reactions
I don't get the argument "Har har Loki loses to Imu because Morj said otherwise" and then instantly caving in at the Shanks evil twin video
I watch the Japanese YouTubers for theories
me too even tho most of them kinda suck
Bro it’s a troll you’re in too deep
still my fav one 😂🤦🏾♂️ then it’s the
“Kid will be next yonko” to
“ Kid is the worst side character in fiction “ 🤣
Oh ok makes sense
I don't recognize those mb I usually just think people are stupid when they say stupid things
What I can say is, Morj theory videos are more coherent than the majority in this server and when Morj does make a good theory, its already something someone else has theorized on reddit or twitter
Oh my goodness
No shame
Greenbull being zoros father is nutty
i think i’ve been exposed to too many theories here to like one piece theorycrafting
I do like this last Meek theory tho
yikes
Ragnir has a fruit of a squirrel that can manifest the elements of all different realms on Yggdrasil
liking a meek theory
Would be cool
bro saw green hair and said yep they related
Ngl
Blud saw that on Reddit
jotunheim being wind is random
Oh
you know morj theories are slop because he pumps them out like every chapter drop after like 1-2 days
but it’s a very easy conclusion to come to
none of them really worth listening to
Ragnir is a goated weapon then
i don’t think you can accuse people of stealing for it
Japanese theorists are the only ones worth
Oh brother
theory, japan 
Buggy accuses people of a lot
most absurd hax i ever seen good lord
🇩 ennies Lobby was japanese
never forget
😭😭😭😭
When have Japanese theorists got a theory right
Sugar Imu
They have a dennys in Enies Lobby?
Youtubers specifically
What
Loki would be just a tier below Imu in Hax

Is that a name or theory
Basically saying that there’s someone who’s controlling the WG similar to sugar
Pre Imu reveal
i don’t think imu is anything like sugar
ehh
They weren’t wrong 🤷♂️
can you send the cat dancing
Big Mom please save this arc

i saw a meme that had this cat dancing and now the song is stuck on my head
damn it

Japanese theorists : Rocks is related to Teach
when it’s revealed : “Japanese theorists are the best (as if it wasn’t one of the most obvious things ) “
“Saber of Xebec”
I remember ppl being so adamant that this wouldnt be a thing
the fact that there was so many mfs in denial about it is whats funny.. legit had people in this server saying “ he just looks up to Rocks but not related to him “ @dense rapids
I too pick my boogers, claim it York's true body and will eventually be correct
"native japanese speaker tells the truth about blackbeard"
Yea before the saber of xebec only 4 people names were going around to be rocks son
Shanks Buggy BB and Dragon
Guys I have a theory
BB is actually the son of rocks
Theory made: when BB was revealed as son of rocks

Everyone said if Bb is rocks son then shanks will be the son of a CD
Shit was so obvious
🤣🤣 those video titles be having me crying … “ Japanese speaker tells you what Oda REALLY meant this chapter “
Aloha!
“Shiki is in Elbaph not Gaban”
Had people literally raging in here when that Gaban reveal happened 🤣🤣🤣😭
that was Earl #1 agenda for a while lmao
Is this still a popular theory
it should have been shiki 
Chill
The slander was amazing
“Gaban killed Shiki and took his clothes”
😭
I got enough Shiki in the Shakky flashback I'm good
He was on elbaph
Oda then put Shiki in Elbaf just to backseat him the entire flashback lmao stand back and let 20 yr old Kaido take all your shine 🤣
So we were right
Ngl I never got the Shiki obsession
He was. He came with Rocks Wb and some other people
Shiki in Elbaph 😭✌️🌹
He’s cool and all but still
Chapter 0 and strong world
Yeah I saw strong world and enjoyed it
Because people really thought his 20 year plan would be canon
It’s cause he was made canon
Shiki made the most of every appearance he had, I’ll give him that
He’s cool but I find Gaban way more interesting
As a rival of Roger Shiki is still more impressive than any other movie villain that came after him
People were saying Shiki was manipulating the Gorosei 😭😭😭😭
These are valid points
WHO were saying this
Shiki is still the best movie villain
Probably cause oda wrote him
Bro the shiki theories were crazy
They swore he was some mastermind
I thought he was just in the underworld of elbaf
I didn’t know people were investing that hard
Has Oda explained that yet
Shiki truthers were everywhere
What the hell shiki got to say to manipulate them
"I know where the son of rocks is!"
They disappeared tho
shiki for lodestar
nawww,next movie is shiki 2
2 former Rocks Pirates & Rocks son .. they probably ain’t even realize it lol
It is
would be interesting if he did
Shiki saved kidd
yeah i’m still torn on if i think he knew or not that Teach was Rocks son .. cause i can totally see Oda going the route of he never knew cause he never cared to try and make a connection cause he just viewed Teach as a son
granted they got the same face so idk if that excuse will work lol
It’s 2026 brother give it up
Lol
Ill never give up
I'll just go with WB knew
They’re gonna help luffy on elbaf
lmao shiki fans determination is one of a kind
they’ve been through a lot ..nothing can break them
Shiki has an ancient weapon
Shikis putting together a team
Surprised shiki fans still don’t think he’s burn scar
I just know it
Shiki in 2026 trying to come back on the seas with all the Worst Generation running it
the burn scar man isn't real
Nah mmbf is either
Ex marine
Barbell/sunbell
new character
Shiki got conquerors
It could be Loki
lmao that ain’t save kaido & big mom
they still got moved out the way by the worst gen
Burn scar without a single scar on his body 😭
not a suprising response from him
Even if he's imprisoned for the past 6 years, the story of the mmbf could come from his 8 years at sea
lol
Gluttonous heathen
In this theory his eyes would be his burn scar
Burn Scar will probably be someone we haven’t met yet
Then they would just say flame eyes
The Burn Scar could be Loki
Is it man marked by flames or burn scar
It’s burn scar or scar shaped like fire
I'm pretty sure someone clarified how it was burn scar, not marked by flames

It is
bruh, what isn't loki
Okay so Loki could've been burnt by the flames of the hellfire serpent, it has fire in it's name
lmao
It's shown on the mural breathing fire
I’ll talk to you guys tomorrow gn
You're saying lmao but you're not really saying how this theory is invalid
You can't convince him otherwise
Super easy to send gifs instead of telling me how I'm wrong
You can't stipulate anything about it that invalidates it
Lmao
Loki is the greatest of all time and has everything
I guess so
You know so
To each their own pasta
Thoughts on Loki's choice in this chapter involving Harald's wishes and on the effect Harald's death had on IMU?
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gotta just let people like socrates keep talking until eventually they’ll get tired of talking to themselves 🤣🤦🏾♂️ we’ve seen this before with Hathor & Sb
This
oh lord really
Yeah go watch
It made me shed a tear
This is the best day of my life
Loki was at sea for 8 years, yet nobody actually speaks of LOKI being the one at sea. When Loki got on his ship he'd might as well be anonymous
cow piece is real

Perfect for someone to make up the name burn scar man after seeing his eyes which were the most abnormal thing about him since his birth
COW PIECE IS REAL 🐮 🐄

Loki didn’t even make it to the red line how could he have gotten the Poneglyph from fmi 🤣
Cow piece can't be stopped
Even tekking is on board
you ain’t get to FMI if you never even made it far enough to make it to the red line
Socrates doesn’t know that because he just started reading in Elbaph
🤣🤣🤣
Burn Scar with 0 scars on his body
reminds me of this oldie
You think if burn scar was a giant people would say that
How do you miss a literal giant ship
saving this
It can't be disproven
it couild be loki
loki mentioned
You can't assume it's not
Aloha!
Loki doesn’t have a scar
"That's assumptions"
Wdym we see his body
Hm you're right
"we don't know"
not a hard goal, like no one does
Who was he referring to here
Tf was Loki doing for 8 years to not even make it to the red line
Just humans from the WG or Holy Knights specifically?
the furthest we know Loki made it as of now is Whole Cake but at some point he ran into Shanks we just don’t know where he was when he did
the 20 square feet of land they reside on
I don't get the joke
It’s not a joke
it's ok
He could've been looking for the Gallela Giants
What does he mean by they
The Holy Knights?
Yeah, Holy Knights are a group of Celestial Dragons
Insane bits
Did you not read the last 4 chapters?
wonder what the gorosei's houses look like
All of them live there
Everytime in the story we're shown where the celestials live
Why are you so sour lol
does Imu ever let them sleep … with how their bodies function do they sleep the same as regular people
Its marijoa
Can you answer anything without being snarky about it
Yeah CDs do
Given their covenant and stuff
They probably dont need it
They're sustained by the magic if anything at this point
Also the holy temple they hang out is up there too
how do you say that
is it marie joe
marry joe
merry joe
yeah that’s what i was thinking too .. Imu just makes them stay up 24/7
What holy temple
Mari joa
Oh alr
Bro doesn’t read the chapters
Its up there
Just spoilers
But is that the Red Line or the Temple specifically
Saturn was also seen eating food
But I doubt its for sustenance
That’s Marie jois
Likely on the other side
Probably just cuz he felt like eating
Yeah
So can't Loki have gone to Fishman Island without getting far enough to meet Holy Knights?
Which could be decently far
If he made it to fmi he would’ve made it to Marie jois
He said he didn’t go that far
Its right there
Meaning he didn’t reach the red line
Fmi is like next to the red line
It’s literally under it
Yeah but how close is it to Marie Jois
yeah loki words imply he never made it that “far” at all to even run into one so if he was right below mariejois then he wouldn’t say “ he never made it that FAR”
Socrates
Like 10s of thousands of meters
Literally
Or climb
No he can't
At least not that we know of

Why the sob emoji am I wrong
if he can jump up from underworld to where Imu is then he can probably just jump on the red line , same way harald just casually jumped off the red line
Still insane btw
Yeah jump probably, so that's ruled out
How tf do u stick that landing man
People underestimate
literally
How tall the tree is
Harald doing that so casually is crazy lol
If he can jump that red like should not he a problem
He jumped in the water
Dog that doesnt do shit
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
that water would feel like concrete from that height
I mean Loki survived a fall from a similar height they’re just hard bodied 🤣
Then how would jumping in the water make him stick the landing any more than on land
yeah you right , that’s why Harald & Loki are physically built different .. anybody else would fuck themselves up unless they had DFs to help
Its a durability feat to survive that fall
This is not minecraft
Because there’s water under the red line?
That’s literally the only place he could’ve jumped
In the water
Harald:"Rocks drop the water bucket or we'll die to fall damage."
You said water like it's any better
Gotta talk to Oda because bro did it casually
but yeah there's mountains in the underworld that dont even reach half way up to the branches of the sun realm
The tree is super tall
Why are we acting like this hasn’t happened?
I do hope Oda shows Loki travels on the sea before this arc is over , not cause of his fight with shanks but just to see what islands he visited what pirates & marines he might’ve encountered
I’m not theorizing
Harald literally jumped off the line into the water
500
For stuff he's not gonna show
That’s the other side of the red line
Harald jumped to the new world side
This is?
Loki during his travels goes to Hachinosu in hopes of finding some type of resemblance of Rocks only to find ugly ass Wang Zhi lol
Yeah but new marineford dint exist back then
That’s in paradise
I thought it was on both side
So it would just be water
Only new world side has it
Oh ok
Because I said Loki is the burn scar man
Or is a contender
Hellbaph
damn zoro got demoted
Was about to like until I saw Sanji
honestly loki and ragnir could easily replace zoro and chopper respectively
they're much better
am I crazy or does this look like jjk art style?
imagine OP ended here
Hm idk I don't read it
It is
buggy and xebec having similar posters is funny
I remember that raw first leaked op fandom went crazy 🤣
I put xebec and buggy face half in half and caused a uproar
Might be true
loki is D 
Loki D. Loki: prince of aura
nice
least cringy sanji stan
Bartsky would eviscerate you for this
Waiting for the moment buggy reveals he knows about Nika
its a reference to jjk yea
elbaf trio and it includes sanji tho...
idk about that
shouldve thrown hajrudin or shamrock in that one
*Ragnir
Hajrudin 💀
at least itd make sense narratively 
hajruding glazing after the flashback
gunko loki luffy also would make sense