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royal orchid
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how does second place taste

prisma yacht
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ok cygbob

digital spear
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Homing = Garling (both end on ing)
Doflamingo = Shamrock
Rocinante = Shanks

royal orchid
cosmic hamlet
digital spear
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Thanks

formal wagon
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is that real or meme

prisma yacht
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very real

digital spear
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I mean idk it fits but doesnt say much

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Celestial dragon families with father that ends on ing

formal wagon
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šŸ”„

royal orchid
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the Yamato Loki thing yesterday made more sense

digital spear
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and two sons who were seperated

digital spear
formal wagon
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homing versus shanks will starve families

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fight of the week when it happens

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im so hype

royal orchid
cosmic hamlet
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So shamrock will kill garling?

formal wagon
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stupid ass timeline fucks up all my homing theories

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doflabumgo was alive during GV

cosmic hamlet
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Discord is shit

digital spear
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Cant wait for the Loki coverstory (he goes on a food tour through Elbaf for 50 chapters)

formal wagon
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which means if homing was a holy knight he should've probably been there

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loki isn't important enough for a cover story

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that should go to iscat

royal orchid
cosmic hamlet
mighty quarry
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Why only domestic

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He went overseas for 14 years

royal orchid
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shanks doesn't let him leave

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anymore

cosmic hamlet
fossil nimbus
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cover story sentomaru/stussy

mighty quarry
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8

storm anvil
cosmic hamlet
formal wagon
digital spear
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He finds out the first Elbaf king was Jaguar D. Elbaf and every giant descends from him

royal orchid
prisma yacht
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we evil

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!weevilhype

prisma yacht
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are we

digital spear
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we are edward weevil

prisma yacht
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we are charlie kirk

formal wagon
cosmic hamlet
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frigid gulch
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Chekhov’s Weevil Gun

digital spear
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what if Luffy Gear 6 is that he puts Chekhov to his attack names

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Gomu Gomu no Chekhovs Pistol

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Gomu Gomu no Chekhovs Gatling

royal orchid
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I think that'd be funny

royal orchid
digital spear
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Will Weevil x Stussy happen

frigid gulch
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#no

digital spear
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Hashtag yes

frigid gulch
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Ykw actually

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Nah nvm

prisma yacht
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Why would weevil do that?

digital spear
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Or Oda does the joke that Weevil rejects Stussy because its in their blood and this is the reveal Weevil really has WBs genes

royal orchid
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Weevil rejects Stussy because its in their blood and this is the reveal Weevil really has Stussy's genes

frigid gulch
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Stussy’s obsessive ass prob got a blood sample somehow

digital spear
formal wagon
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lucci becomes weevi's stepdad

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what am i saying

grand flower
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I feel like weevil really is just WBs son

ashen perch
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what are you saying indeed

frigid gulch
ashen perch
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he is gonna be a clone-ish, all those scars are an indicator that he was made rather than being born

grand flower
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Naw Whitebeard had a son with Stussy

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He thought weevil died

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That’s why he made a crew all of sons

ashen perch
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oh maybe Weevil almost died, and he was barely saved by VP

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thus the weird scars

formal wagon
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oh maybe āŒ āŒ :loudwrongbuzzer:

ashen perch
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look those scars are gonna be relevant for sure smh

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his whole body looks like it was reassembled by Hogback

formal wagon
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viva pinata fortnite collab or viva pinata one piece collab

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which one would we prefer

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I'd prefer viva pinata and fortnite even though i dont play fortnite because it would mean they're marketing another viva pinata game which means there will be another viva pinata game

golden valley
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I do think Weevil is a failed clone

formal wagon
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think one more time

golden valley
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Stussy went to VP because she wanted a child with Whitebeard, Vegapunk got his DNA and made her one, but in exchange, she had to give her dna to be cloned

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And boom, he was born

muted hedge
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i don't think Vegapunk would do such a sloppy job

formal wagon
golden valley
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Wow

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Weevil is great

muted hedge
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sure is, still don't think that Vegapunk would've let the stitches show

digital spear
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idk maybe something really fucked up Weevil

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I think there is a reason tho for Weevil to have a bit of every Mads member

golden valley
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Maybe weevil was their first experiment?

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Cloning experiment

digital spear
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I think so too

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nvm Stussy is 36 and Weevil is 35

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fuck it vivrecards are probably wrong anyway

golden valley
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Yeah could be a retconned timeline

digital spear
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Caesars age got changed from 40 to 55

formal wagon
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what if weevil is a clone of vegapunk

digital spear
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he has his legs

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weevil is the 7th sattelite

digital spear
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not even ridiculous

golden valley
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Sorry, but kidd is

tranquil blade
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VP looks like he doesnt have a single bone in his body he's so strange looking

digital spear
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where was Weevil for 30 years

tranquil blade
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but I honestly expected it a little

digital spear
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he only appeared after Wbs death

golden valley
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training

tranquil blade
golden valley
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actually maybe he was naturally gifted

cold steppe
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Or maybe he just didn't exist

digital spear
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what if he got fucked up because he was in the Punk Hazard explosion, this seems like it could be an older theory

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but logically he should be with Mads right

digital spear
ashen perch
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man remember when Buckin was like "hey I know who can explain this Weevil deal to you, Marco, its VP" and we got like 0 follow up on this

digital spear
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yea lol

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Bc its being saved

ashen perch
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I really thought it was about to be relevant to Egghead as an arc

golden valley
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For the best moment

ashen perch
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it is being saved I am sure but its just funny cause it seemed like they were gonna show up at Egghead lmao

digital spear
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eh idk he had just arrived, I actually thought maybe they go to him

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Sphinx miniarc

ashen perch
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Its just being saved for much later now, Hachinosu War

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when Weevil is part of Cross Guild, and VP is part of the SH side

golden valley
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The greatest achievement clone science can have if clones being capable of possessing CoC

formal wagon
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eh

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Weevil coc soon

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he already has it

digital spear
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weevil and mihawk are the only warlords stronger than luffy

ashen perch
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also possible

golden valley
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Get out

digital spear
ashen perch
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not ready for Post TS Moria clearly...

proud pivot
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Hmmm

digital spear
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What should I bet next

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Hmm

digital spear
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Arisu if you win your current bet I will blame you for Elbaf being rushed btw

proud pivot
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I mean

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Oda kinda said he'd rush it

digital spear
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What did he say

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Fastest pace this year

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He's getting old

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Smth like that

digital spear
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Did he say something like that recently?

cosmic hamlet
digital spear
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Because he just put in the whole god valley fb into Elbaf

ashen perch
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well he did say that but I dont think he meant it like that

cosmic hamlet
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He did take 1 month break twice saying he need to modify and reduce the story

digital spear
ashen perch
golden valley
proud pivot
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I expect elbaf to end by 1194

cosmic hamlet
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1203 is last elbaf episode

ashen perch
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eh I just dont think he meant it this way, there'll just be a lot happening one after the other, thats all

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lots of reveals, big events, stuff like that

cosmic hamlet
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Chapter*

prisma idol
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Lbaf, Elbad. I'm mad at Oda for pushing the post castle stuff to either not being covered or a later flashback, which i didnt want because we might already be getting another FB with brook and gunko

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ashen perch
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we're 2 chapters into the year and there's been no difference in the pacing, hell this recent chapter was almost slow by Oda's recent standards

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ashen perch
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so I dont think we really need to worry

prisma idol
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I wouldnt say we are rushing, for god's sake Oda spent 10 chapters with rocks in this flashback

digital spear
ashen perch
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I think the quickest way for Elbaf to end is just a non conclusion, no HK losses, no real fights really take place, Imu fails to get the giants again, they just get sent back

ionic palm
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still believe Elbaph is going to last for 80 chapters minimum ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

around 105 at the max

cosmic hamlet
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Another joyboy haki

ashen perch
digital spear
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It would be really boring tho so I hope not

ashen perch
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but its difficult to imagine the arc ending anytime soon if Oda commits to a proper ending here, in that scenario we got like 60 more chapters imo lol

cosmic hamlet
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30-40*

proud pivot
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Elbaf started at 1126 yea?

ashen perch
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yeah

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we're at 45? chapters I believe

ionic palm
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we're likely not even halfway towards covering what could be covering in Elbaph so we probably got about maybe between 70-100 chapters left.

cosmic hamlet
ashen perch
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LEFT is crazy

ionic palm
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giant chunk of the content in Elbaph so far has been essentially two flashbacks into one.

proud pivot
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Originally I expected elbaf to be 70 chapters

ashen perch
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but I do think we hit the 100s in total

cosmic hamlet
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60-70% of the flashback doesn't involve harald and loki

proud pivot
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I'll remove my imu face reveal prediction though

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!rmd list

tropic novaBOT
ashen perch
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We'll see, it just depends on the type of conclusion here. The arc can just as easily end quite quickly as it can go very long

proud pivot
digital spear
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!rmd list

tropic novaBOT
cosmic hamlet
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I don't think hks or imu will get defeated pre laughtale

digital spear
proud pivot
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Alright

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1 year was crazy

ashen perch
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if Oda was bright, the arc will not be ending anytime soon

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but who knows

proud pivot
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I don't think the brook and gunko fb happens in elbaf btw

cosmic hamlet
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Same

ashen perch
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yeah those are the sort of things a non bright Oda would do

prisma idol
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Direct mod

proud pivot
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Oh

ashen perch
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the idea of saving Brook and Gunko's flashback for later is just pointless, there's no need to save it for later when they arent going to encounter Imu again for a very long time

fluid cedar
ashen perch
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this is it, this is THE arc to see it through to its resolution

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the entire storyline

fresh silo
torn stirrup
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watched the two Romance Dawn adaptations, why tf did they animate Gear Third so gross in the first one lmao

hallow herald
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panel of the day @grand flower

ashen perch
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this jit cracked him to death

digital spear
digital spear
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Theres no point in moving at a fast speed in Elbaf if you just put out stuff that you have to show later anyway

mighty shell
scenic dirge
ashen perch
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well the whole idea only exists cause Oda said that lol, but again as with all his statements, you just have to ignore it because he has no idea what he is talking about

scenic dirge
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Loki is him

ashen perch
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true

proud pivot
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Loki > Kaido

ashen perch
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false

scenic dirge
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Zoro > Loki > Kaido > Usopp

scenic dirge
golden valley
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Twitter level Zoro scaler

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Smh

digital spear
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Loki keeps to more and more become the Kaido people wanted

scenic dirge
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His strength is being hyped up in the same vein as Kaido’s was

native cloud
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No!

digital spear
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Yes?

scenic dirge
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Why do people keep denying his strength??? It has to be some Loki 4 Nakama shit or something

native cloud
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Are you really going to do this rn?

fringe escarp
proud pivot
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Loki has everything, broken df, great haki and great weapon
Kaido had 2 of those

digital spear
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WORLDS STRONGEST CREATURE (for 2 years) (after Whitebeards death) (while Loki was chained)

golden valley
fringe escarp
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Nobody shat on Kaidos strength until that absolutely disrespectful flashback

native cloud
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We’re not saying Loki is weak, just don’t compare him to Kaido

cold steppe
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Kaido is a serious less exaggerated buggy

scenic dirge
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Imu is literally confused about how tf Harald was defeated

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native cloud
golden valley
cold steppe
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He was overhyped in the story

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Not just by fans

ashen perch
digital spear
cold steppe
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Like by Characters

golden valley
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Loki overpowered and killed someone Imu deemed unstoppable

native cloud
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Don’t ping Socrates please G5Laugh

digital spear
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Say it out loud

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Visualize it

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Think about it

native cloud
golden valley
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And reach a conclusion

scenic dirge
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Loki with Ragnir and the fruit is just him. And he has the physical strength of Harald. Ok he’s not as durable or hardy as Kaido but neither is Rocks or Roger etc…

ashen perch
digital spear
fast pagoda
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I just want Imu to win

digital spear
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Smooth has to be the best ragebaiter ever

ashen perch
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well

scenic dirge
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I’m saying his strength is clearly on par with legendary characters such as the emperors. I can very well see him being as strong as Luffy or even currently a bit stronger

ashen perch
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I am beginning to doubt whether a fight even happened as well, but we'll see

native cloud
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Please don’t lol

golden valley
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How hasn’t he proven to be as strong as Luffy is the thing

fast pagoda
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If this flashback cut out God Valley it would have been a 10/10

grand flower
scenic dirge
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And yea, I’m starting to think Shanks didn’t actually defeat him in straight combat. My theory is that Shanks managed to convince him to not attack the WG coz that’d be suicide. And in order to keep up the pretense that he was the one who killed Harald, he’d have to allow himself to be imprisoned on Elbaf

ashen perch
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He might be as powerful as Luffy atleast, but even that remains to be seen though because what if Luffy ends up beating a Domi'd Loki? that would make this whole take real silly

fast pagoda
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Zoro

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I didnt like Slop Valley

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God Valley is my Wano

fringe escarp
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wow

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(Cause I liked Wano)

cold steppe
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If only all arcs were like god valley

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Im of the belief that Shanks and Loki didn’t go all out but Shanks also looked superior in their fight

fast pagoda
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scenic dirge
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I go by what Oda wants the reader to believe. Loki’s hype has been reminiscent of Kaido and BM’s back in the day. It is what it is

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šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø

fringe escarp
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Wano feeds off later contextualization

fast pagoda
native cloud
scenic dirge
golden valley
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I think shanks beat him but im starting to doubt it was 1v1

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I think beckmann and the others held off ragnir while shanks fought loki

fossil nimbus
ashen perch
golden valley
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Its not just immortality that made Harald a threat

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Gaban expressed his conquerors haki as well

ashen perch
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it wasnt just that but its the one thing that he did highlight even this chapter lol

cold steppe
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I doubt it wasn't at least a fight. Clearly loki is not liking that he was captured. And also has a grudge on shanks

golden valley
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And he got put in what was seemingly a load of bandages

grand flower
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Loki is a Ragnir merchant

fast pagoda
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I want to know what happened to the 2 surviving guards that went with Loki

fast pagoda
grand flower
fast pagoda
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He's a fruit AND ragnir merchant

ashen perch
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where he needed both

grand flower
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It was all Ragnir in the killing blow

fossil nimbus
ashen perch
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Ragnir provided the firepower for the killing blow but Harald had become normal at that point, briefly

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thats where the fruit may have done its thing

grand flower
fast pagoda
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I dont think its that deep

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runic dock
grand flower
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ashen perch
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is it? I mean Loki beat him up in his DF and he returned back to normal for a second, that is what happened

digital spear
# native cloud I just think it’s unfair comparing him to Kaido given what Kaido has done for th...

Theyre not real people we dont have to respect their feelings or anything, just consider that

  • Imu and the CDs (biggest current bad guy group) want him to be a holy knight
  • He has similar backstory beats to Kaido (born as a monster, climbed up the tree as a baby, as a kid he tried suicide by dropping kilometers down to the ground, literally Kaido)
  • Ragnir, a weapon that accepted nobody for 800 years accepted Lokis strength, and we could assume Harald tried to take it too, said weapon is now part of Lokis arsenal
  • Harald was equal or close to Xebec, and an Imu controlled Harald which not even Shanks and Gaban could stop, was killed by Loki, which Imu was flabbergasted about
    Sorry but still not even wanting to COMPARE him to Kaido is just weirdly placed admiration here, Kaido was the strongest creature for a while, now the series is evolving
cold steppe
runic dock
cold steppe
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It's getting a bit weird

runic dock
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Loki fruit did the work FIRST

ashen perch
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ah

runic dock
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THEN ragnir sealed the deal

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With acoc to boot

fast pagoda
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Oda will still be doing the silhouette gimmick in the final war and yall have to accept it

runic dock
ashen perch
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yeah lol, the fruit did its thing, and then once its thing had brought back Harald to normal, Ragnir can step in and finish the job. The DF is definitely the key here

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ashen perch
# fossil nimbus

this doesnt work because we had seen two Warlord silhouettes already by then anyways

runic dock
# cold steppe It's getting a bit weird

Garp called it a black monster , it’s not a silhouette at all , it’s just one of its canonical layers , as I still believe there’s a body being used under there

ashen perch
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I think its a Doppelman

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Remember Moria's doppelman

fossil nimbus
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Imu is just Moria upscale

cold steppe
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something

runic dock
golden valley
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Harald still regenerates after the fruit assault so

ashen perch
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yeah but he was normal for a bit

runic dock
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Gtfo putting a silhouette on a card of a specific character lmao

ashen perch
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I think the black blob is going to be like that for Imu

ashen perch
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because Imu never physically appears in GV, he just possesses Saturn and manifests through his physical body

runic dock
torn stirrup
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i kinda don't mind silhouette piece honestly

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the only time it really bothered me was the scenes of Oden before his proper flashback, i guess

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hello, earl

runic dock
ashen perch
# grand flower Haki already does that

it required Garp and Roger to throw in all their Haki for that to happen with Xebec, Loki didnt do that, he just used what looked like his hybrid to fight

runic dock
ashen perch
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yea

frigid gulch
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Tbh we have to wait for how it works cause it’s strange

ashen perch
alpine trench
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one piece

frigid gulch
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So far it doesn’t seem like haki can do the job

ashen perch
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one piece indeed

runic dock
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I think the fruit played a big role it’s just visually Oda didn’t want to reveal anything about it so it looks like it didn’t help with the final hit

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Lokis fruit I mean

frigid gulch
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I assumed Loki in base had a passive effect

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crazy how the flashback is over now

frigid gulch
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From his fruit

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how yall rate the flashback out of 10

runic dock
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peak

celest mauve
runic dock
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The only thing I could want beyond what we got is all the secrets revealed

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What else

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What is the D , what is the one piece ? Whose father is dying sadly next? Only these things could be greater than the flashback we got

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D is probably the name of the alliance

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joyboy's alliance

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D as in Dog

high wolf
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muted hedge
formal wagon
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wano is a 2/10

dense haven
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break next week btw

fast pagoda
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The first part with Harald and baby Loki is 8/10

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Rocks part is 9/10

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End with Harald and Loki is 9/10

sage temple
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The fact that Imu themselves don't seem to even know what the fruit could've been makes me think the fruit isn't just a unique ability to damage the HKs. I think it was a combination between Loki's strength and weapons

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So like Loki at 16 has been the first to damage Imu for about 800 years, simple as that šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

runic dock
buoyant comet
tranquil blade
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Eh GV wasnt that amazing

sage temple
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Garp and Roger knocked out Xebec from Domi Reversi

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When he's not in Domi Reversi, he doesn't regen

buoyant comet
grand flower
sage temple
runic dock
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Rocks himself could’ve gotten up

grand flower
digital spear
grand flower
sage temple
sage temple
buoyant comet
grand flower
runic dock
grand flower
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He was dying

buoyant comet
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Plus there's a guy called Luffy too

grand flower
buoyant comet
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Idk if y'all heard about him

grand flower
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Rocks was immobile and struggling to stay conscious

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He was going to die regardless

sage temple
runic dock
sage temple
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Which is why I didn't say he could

runic dock
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They didn’t wake up for a long time

runic dock
sage temple
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I'm sure you hate the playing field being locked off to Loki and Joyboy himself

runic dock
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He was literally dreading still being alive

sage temple
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But this is pretty much all we know

frigid gulch
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Roger and Garp couldn’t get up

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frigid gulch
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They were too exhausted

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Rocks was in about the same state as them

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If not a bit worse

sage temple
runic dock
sage temple
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Not to overcome his regeneration

frigid gulch
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Yep

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I don’t think Rocks had regen

sage temple
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As a result of overcoming his ACoC, Rocks was knocked out of Domi Reversi

grand flower
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Rocks himself is questioning if he’s gonna survive

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This is obviously a dying man

runic dock
grand flower
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He’s basically in the same position Lucci was in back in water 7

buoyant comet
grand flower
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He was fading from his injuries

frigid gulch
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Reversi doesn’t have regen

runic dock
grand flower
digital spear
sage temple
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Domi Reversi just reverts the victim to their previous body after being knocked out of DR

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So yeah

frigid gulch
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Which doesn’t include regen yea

grand flower
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He was dying

buoyant comet
sage temple
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As seen with Brogy

runic dock
frigid gulch
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Rocks had a missing tooth and blood on him

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Usually that disappears

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With the regeneration the HKs and the Elders have

sage temple
frigid gulch
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Even the blood doesn’t remain

prisma idol
celest mauve
digital spear
buoyant comet
runic dock
iron oriole
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Or Harald & Rocks clashing

grand flower
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Also this chapter gave us the reason Imu was on the ground at the end of egghead when Joyboy's haki was let out. They felt the recoil of Joyboy's haki taking the Gorosei out of the fight and sending them back to the holy land

runic dock
buoyant comet
shell sinew
runic dock
buoyant comet
digital spear
trim lily
runic dock
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He has room to grow

grand flower
prisma idol
grand flower
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He was dying of his injuries and would have succumbed if left alone

runic dock
trim lily
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though this does feel like a pretty major weakness for imu

high wolf
sage temple
# frigid gulch Even the blood doesn’t remain

Exactly Domi Reversi does not seem to be a regeneration power. If you can hit someone out of Domi Reversi beyond their defensive threshold, they are knocked out of Domi Reversi. Only when they are knocked out of Domi Reversi can they actually be killed. Loki on the other hand killed Harald as Harald was a Holy Knight and indirectly damages Imu, which likely hasn't been done for about 800 years

frigid gulch
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I think Imu felt it through the Gorosei

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frigid gulch
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He was able to recognize it

prisma idol
sage temple
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So Loki at 16 was the first to damage Imu in 800 years and people are just going to have to live with that

frigid gulch
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In this case he completely lost Harald

trim lily
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i assume imu could cancel the contract before a knight or someone dies

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like they did to saturn

grand flower
grand flower
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ā€œWill I leave this island aliveā€ is more like Rocks genuinely doesnt know what’s about to happen to him

runic dock
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Case closed

olive sigil
prisma idol
sage temple
grand flower
prisma idol
runic dock
grand flower
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That’s why said you can read it that way if you want to

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It’s a great series

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I think Rocks would’ve died without treatment but that line to me reads like he doesn’t know what’s gonna happen to him. He’s left alone & motionless on an island that’s essentially done for

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That’s what he’s talking about

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Luffy spreading around Gear 5 energy soon

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ACoC gets stronger with more output

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# sage temple Yeah you can't because you're wrong lol

It's because you guys lack the proper reading comprehension skills required and instead twist my points into shit I didn't even say like I don't wanna bother with people who are actively tryna gaslight me into thinking that I said or implied something I didn't Crydo

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Gosh you should've said that in the first place

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I gotta pick up a book or something I'm so naive compared to MISTER Clayoreus

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blackbeard when he goes blue mode

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Why is he blue

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Bluebeard

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What if Rocks’ epithet was Bluebeard

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Buggybeard

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if he had a blue beard that’d make sense

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I spit on my macbook display

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This is Ragnir's battle cry

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Ragnir D Nuts

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Webec

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i need to get a glue true emote

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Please

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Give me ...

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the only glue related emote i have is GLUE

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very limited use case though

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Dude Buggy doesnt NEED to be Rocks son

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It would be mad funny

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Really unnecessary

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But really funny

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lol at people comparing freezing Draugr to Kuzan

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Well that might be what some say

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Loki vs Imu seems set in stone

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rip loki

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Along with Luffy

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shanks wins

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then again we already got to use rocks as a way to show how strong imu is so maybe loki will be spared

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Loki can probably do something with his fruit

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That’s the whole point basically

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Some doubted Rocks’ plan

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Ya know its kinda funny how after all the haki transcends shit, Loki gets introduced, eats a df and suddenly becomes pirate king level 😭

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Shanks may still have fought him

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Against Roger?

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As said as it is to say

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Against Primebeard?

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Against Mihawk?

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Yes

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Shanks tells Loki to reconsider

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Loki doesn’t listen

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Shanks’ hand is forced

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Something like that

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Well maybe not Imu

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we might be losing the plot with this format

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Shanks cannot be slandered as he has nothing to bring him down

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There is no "black paint" for Shanks

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They're shanks exclusive

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Meet.. Late Man..

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The haki knot thing is so surreal

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Generally even the most agenda stuff is based on SOMETHING

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This one is like 100% insanity

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haki knots being used to slander Shanks is because the rat slander was proven to be false

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I think black paint and haki knots both

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Terrible memes

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black paint is alright

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It’s bad

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not as bad as haki knot

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Out of all the slander

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black paint has long since ran its course but it’s still bizarre that mihawk has the only black sword

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It’s garbage

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but he implies it’s haki that lets you do it

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Black blade but no acoc

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oda making black blade more rare than CoC and Logia is insane

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and i doubt rocks or roger had that much weaker haki than mihawk

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Didn't he do that with Garp

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Ice is

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he always use that

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I’m just talking about the scale of it

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That's like the closest similarity to Kuzan there is

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Lol

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greenbull and mihawk rickTrue

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People too high on hype claimed it’s > Kuzan

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There must be some insane criteria

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Well it's certainly the 2nd in place compared to Kuzan

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we already went to the country that made the first black blade
and the only info we got was "forged"
ok oda mr vague man

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Considering ice isn't even Ragnir's main element

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Black blades are supposed to be very rare

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But it’s more than haki alone

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I still question whether GB has one

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the GB sword is still up in the air if its black or not

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If he does it's definitely not his

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Surely the anime staff saw his sword as black

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But they still for whatever reason

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greenbull of all people having the only other black blade

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Although the colored manga changed it

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It just doesn’t make sense

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The disconnect

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Tho I hardly trust the anime’s colours atp

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lets be real people just dont want this guy to have a black blade

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i do catJump

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he found it at a flea market and thought it looked cool

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Bro got a sword for the fashion

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He stabbed his pants to make space for it

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it is very sus
cuz thats not a scabbard

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So it'd look bad if he had one

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he just stuck it through his pants

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my goat

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He doesn't even use it 😭

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Of course he could always have just stole it from someone

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Black blades r weird bc they’re hella rare but not all that powerful I mean zoro got a pretty significant upgrade going from shusui to enma

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That’s what it would seem but we also don’t know everything

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even if its not GBs sword the owner of the 3rd blade is still very interesting

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if it’s different in the hands of the one who forged it

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he might have just killed the guy

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he wouldnt be that mean

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He would

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ricardo would never..

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Nusjuro’s been living for how long

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No black blade

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i think wado should be the first sword zoro obtains the black blade with as it means more to him.

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thatd make sense

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Oden as well

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odens dad made it sound like enma was really close to being a black blade

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this mf

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if only greenbull didnt arrive a week late

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he couldve achieved his goal

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i wonder how did rayleigh not obtain a black blade. Like what did he not do enough i wonder.

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everything looks great
not these tho wtf is that

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Cool design and power

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But I just can’t vibe with the boot licking

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the black and green pants are very nice

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Just a theory

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It’s passed down swords that have gone thru pressure over time

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And it would take more than a lifetime

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maybe one day oda will actually let zoro fight a real swordman
not some DF users

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Like zoro’s sword , it’s not his first wielder

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Enma was crafted around 55 years ago I think

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did this literally just refer to normal armament

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And Zoro will prob make it black

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And zoro hasn’t turned any of his swords black

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I thought a flashback like that would lead into it going permanently black

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What’s the point

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It could just be a spontaneous process

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But we’ll have to see

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i think zoro thought armament was the only thing he needed but after the bridge scene he discovered something
which oda hid from us

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Zoro focused on the word ā€œforgedā€

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i dont think this means anything deeper than "your sword can become black like mine if you use armament to do so"

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And then ye

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Oda cut away

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what mihawk says here implies zoro already mastered it by now (ie. imbuing haki into your blade)

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all i know is zoro has been feeding enma constant haki in current arc

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when while hes eating

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But if you’re a goat you can do it in one lifetime

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# high wolf

notice mihawk says every weapon. i wonder if one can also turn non-bladed weapons into a permanent "black blade" as well so to speak CrocThink

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Mihawk’s comment there seems more like a temporary thing

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Because once you stop coating in haki

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It’s done

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But it can imply that a permanent one does involve the use of CoA

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Passed my AWS exam today

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Fuck proctors

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yknow this just reminded me of the fact that haki is supposed to be invisible and appears black to the reader

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but what mihawk says implies haki can make things appear black in universe

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What was Zephyr’s name

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Zephyr

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Aloha!

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yeah black arm zephyr

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Black Arm

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make up your mind oda

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Oh wait

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Thats fujitora

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Hmmm

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Well

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Zephyr needs to be canon

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The lightning that spawns in with the abyss

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Is also visible

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Zephyr was the admiral Rocks killed

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Zephyr was the admiral Rocks killed

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Zephyr was the admiral Rocks killed 56 yrs ago

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Hmmmm to both of those

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oda would rather die than canonize zephyr

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Wait

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Wrong verb

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dunno maybe he just still cant control enma using his haki

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I’m gonna canonize him then

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He doesn’t have to use Enma yk

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To eat

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zoro will die of an infection in 2 years

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Do yk whos tera?

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enhanced the flavor

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he licks that blade, eats from the blade

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NO TERA IS THE NAME OF ZOROS MOM

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oh

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U SBS SKIPPER

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Ye idk if Zoro cares that much anyway

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I was like why are you talking about teen titans

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oh i thought you meant terabyte

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tera is probably dead anyway so it all works out

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all i remember is pinzoro

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Thats zoros grandfather

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Sorry Its hard to type on my phone with a wrist brace on

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any loki fans in chat?

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And his fathers name is storm

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Ik my nigga loki was innocent man

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I love Loki

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Loki looks majestic here ngl

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we thinking loki fruit next chapter?

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doubt it

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or oda gonna keep it hidden for longer

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No

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Yea

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I don't think Loki will be shown for most of next chapter

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Its gonna be loki’s hand transformed at the end of the chapter

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i assume we're gonna follow zoro, gaban and hajrudin up

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Maybe at the end or the chapter after next chapter

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the fighting is starting and im sure we'll start with punching/hammer strikes but things will heat up quickly

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i dont think itll be in next chapter but i could see the transformation being the end of chapter cliffhanger

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maybe in 2 or 3 chapters

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oda might even do transformation cliffhanger then cut away

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yeah that’s probably what will happen

hot cairn
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absolutely

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Yeah prolly

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When imu calls zoro ā€œryumaā€BBWise BBWise BBWise BBWise BBWise

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But possible

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Oda will milk it for as long as he can

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goda fr

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its gonna be giant robot in egghead level shit

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where there were like 3-4 different chapter cliffhangers before it paid off

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the sword ?

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loki fruit

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šŸ˜”

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Chekhov’s second giant sword

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It was done with Kaido

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kid will definitely use this sword

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Although we didn’t get a silhouette before this

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So it was alright

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Tbh

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That was low-key why Kaido wasn’t shown using more stuff vs Oden

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Oda likes to keep it under wraps if it’s a character in the present

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True with characters Oda's trying to hide we can assume there's a lot more to the fight Oda gives us a peek at

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Like Loki vs Harald and Kaido vs Oden

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Can't wait to see this fruit

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I bet you're living the best life rn Socrates

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Loki is finally showing us what he's capable of DoffyCorn

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And it can only get better from this

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idk if anyone cares but what do u guys think about ryuma

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Must suck for Heart Pirate Queen

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I re-read Monsters and it didn't say much about that

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in monster ryuma already have shusui black

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Monsters wouldn’t tell you anything about that

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so i was wondering did he got it from someone else or he actually use his haki

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It’s pre OP

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Oda just reused the character

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Although the episode integrated it into OP

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Then I don't get where it says the WG sent people to where Ryuma was

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In the manga

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Because people tried to say he was killing Holy Knights like Loki at 16 did

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pseudo gulch
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it has this symbols of the knights

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Though it doesn’t have to mean Knights

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I don't remember the WG doing anything in relation to Ryuma's place while he was alive

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it has the s symbol thingy like shamrock colar

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I’d assume Ryuma could use conquerors

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and i saw people took refference from sbs or smth that ryuma was between void century and current timeline in OP so around 400 years ago and from monster, dragon existed

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They did

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and he was known as the strongest swordman of the world?

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Onimaru says the Celestial Dragons wanted it

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I just posted the page

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That doesn't mean they were sent there

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The walls of Wano still made it almost impossible for most to enter right

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Just read the page breh

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I am reading the page and it doesn't say they sent anyone

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It then says one man stood fast and mighty against these enemies

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Hm maybe I was reading it wrong BuggySweat

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I don’t think they would leave just cause he told them to

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Hed have to beat their asses

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To make it known

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then what was the reason for ryuma to leave wano at the first place

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When did he leave

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true

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Ryuma was buried in Wano

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but monster took place somewhere look nothing like wano right?

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Yeah

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Kinda confused me

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Monsters doesn’t quite fit within the manga

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I would compare it to like a movie almost

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yeah it wasn’t made with one piece in mind

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nothing like the sea so i think it was before the 2nd high tide

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what if wano just had a brief american western period

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When they put the SHs in special settings for movies

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then it went back to japan

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It’s kinda like that

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monster was made with romance dawn too

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yeah it was one of the 6 one shots oda made

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It was supposed to be a stand alone thing until the episode

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That’s where they connected it with OP

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Because Ryuma is a character in OP

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But it’s still not canon

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but based on how romance dawn became one piece now and monster has it own adaptation

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i wonder if the other stories will

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can’t wait to see oda canonize god’s gift for this wonderful world next

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ah no its future present from god

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what if those short stories before romance dawn was like the lore of one piec world lol

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I mean just think of Shiki

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Proper character in the manga

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But had his own movie with its own stuff

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Who cares about canon it’s all fake anyways

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everything is canon