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ok cygbob
Homing = Garling (both end on ing)
Doflamingo = Shamrock
Rocinante = Shanks
good theory

Thanks
is that real or meme
very real
I mean idk it fits but doesnt say much
Celestial dragon families with father that ends on ing
š„
the Yamato Loki thing yesterday made more sense
and two sons who were seperated
what was it
homing versus shanks will starve families
fight of the week when it happens
im so hype
that they were similar because they both had ice powers and were crewbait something something
So shamrock will kill garling?
Discord is shit
Cant wait for the Loki coverstory (he goes on a food tour through Elbaf for 50 chapters)
which means if homing was a holy knight he should've probably been there
loki isn't important enough for a cover story
that should go to iscat
Cant wait for the Loki coverstory (he commits domestic terrorism for 50 chapters)
Cover story on charlos and his struggles for not getting his food
8*
cover story sentomaru/stussy
8
then he visits harald's grave and we find out he's kozuki 
Nah, we found out harald and kaido are twins
weevil/weevil/weevil
He finds out the first Elbaf king was Jaguar D. Elbaf and every giant descends from him
WEEVIL WILL RETURN
we evil
!weevilhype
are we
we are edward weevil
we are charlie kirk

Chekhovās Weevil Gun
what if Luffy Gear 6 is that he puts Chekhov to his attack names
Gomu Gomu no Chekhovs Pistol
Gomu Gomu no Chekhovs Gatling
I think that'd be funny
Will Weevil x Stussy happen
#no
Hashtag yes
Why would weevil do that?
Or Oda does the joke that Weevil rejects Stussy because its in their blood and this is the reveal Weevil really has WBs genes
Weevil rejects Stussy because its in their blood and this is the reveal Weevil really has Stussy's genes
Stussyās obsessive ass prob got a blood sample somehow
So this means theyre siblings, funny how 1 word can change everything
I feel like weevil really is just WBs son
what are you saying indeed
Lucci vs Weevil
eh, its probably a bit complex
he is gonna be a clone-ish, all those scars are an indicator that he was made rather than being born
Naw Whitebeard had a son with Stussy
He thought weevil died
Thatās why he made a crew all of sons
oh maybe ā ā :loudwrongbuzzer:
look those scars are gonna be relevant for sure smh
his whole body looks like it was reassembled by Hogback
viva pinata fortnite collab or viva pinata one piece collab
which one would we prefer
I'd prefer viva pinata and fortnite even though i dont play fortnite because it would mean they're marketing another viva pinata game which means there will be another viva pinata game
I do think Weevil is a failed clone
think one more time
Stussy went to VP because she wanted a child with Whitebeard, Vegapunk got his DNA and made her one, but in exchange, she had to give her dna to be cloned
And boom, he was born
Exactly
i don't think Vegapunk would do such a sloppy job
i think that was the plan but queen put his own dna in cause he's evil and horrible
thatsā¦mean
Wow
Weevil is great
sure is, still don't think that Vegapunk would've let the stitches show
idk maybe something really fucked up Weevil
I think there is a reason tho for Weevil to have a bit of every Mads member
I think so too
nvm Stussy is 36 and Weevil is 35
fuck it vivrecards are probably wrong anyway
Yeah could be a retconned timeline
Caesars age got changed from 40 to 55
what if weevil is a clone of vegapunk
he has his legs
weevil is the 7th sattelite
not even ridiculous
Sorry, but kidd is
VP looks like he doesnt have a single bone in his body he's so strange looking
where was Weevil for 30 years
but I honestly expected it a little
he only appeared after Wbs death
training
In a cryogenic chamber waiting to be released
actually maybe he was naturally gifted
Or maybe he just didn't exist
what if he got fucked up because he was in the Punk Hazard explosion, this seems like it could be an older theory
but logically he should be with Mads right
he seems to be 35 years old
man remember when Buckin was like "hey I know who can explain this Weevil deal to you, Marco, its VP" and we got like 0 follow up on this
yea lol
Bc its being saved
I really thought it was about to be relevant to Egghead as an arc
For the best moment
it is being saved I am sure but its just funny cause it seemed like they were gonna show up at Egghead lmao
eh idk he had just arrived, I actually thought maybe they go to him
Sphinx miniarc
Its just being saved for much later now, Hachinosu War
when Weevil is part of Cross Guild, and VP is part of the SH side
The greatest achievement clone science can have if clones being capable of possessing CoC
eh
Weevil coc soon
he already has it
or maybe in the next coverstory
weevil and mihawk are the only warlords stronger than luffy
also possible
Moria?
Get out
^
Boa
not ready for Post TS Moria clearly...
Hmmm

Arisu if you win your current bet I will blame you for Elbaf being rushed btw
What did he say
Did he say something like that recently?

Because he just put in the whole god valley fb into Elbaf
well he did say that but I dont think he meant it like that
He did take 1 month break twice saying he need to modify and reduce the story
oh I read it now
Soon
1203 is last elbaf episode
eh I just dont think he meant it this way, there'll just be a lot happening one after the other, thats all
lots of reveals, big events, stuff like that
Chapter*
Lbaf, Elbad. I'm mad at Oda for pushing the post castle stuff to either not being covered or a later flashback, which i didnt want because we might already be getting another FB with brook and gunko
we're 2 chapters into the year and there's been no difference in the pacing, hell this recent chapter was almost slow by Oda's recent standards
Nobody is more mad than me š„²
so I dont think we really need to worry
I wouldnt say we are rushing, for god's sake Oda spent 10 chapters with rocks in this flashback
I think he rather means the things that happen on Elbaf are crazy, and the things after too but I still dont think it will be managed until we reach chapter 1200
I think the quickest way for Elbaf to end is just a non conclusion, no HK losses, no real fights really take place, Imu fails to get the giants again, they just get sent back
still believe Elbaph is going to last for 80 chapters minimum ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
around 105 at the max
Another joyboy haki
which, while underwhelming, would atleast not be rushed
It would be really boring tho so I hope not
but its difficult to imagine the arc ending anytime soon if Oda commits to a proper ending here, in that scenario we got like 60 more chapters imo lol
30-40*
Elbaf started at 1126 yea?
we're likely not even halfway towards covering what could be covering in Elbaph so we probably got about maybe between 70-100 chapters left.
46
LEFT is crazy
giant chunk of the content in Elbaph so far has been essentially two flashbacks into one.
Originally I expected elbaf to be 70 chapters
but I do think we hit the 100s in total
60-70% of the flashback doesn't involve harald and loki
We'll see, it just depends on the type of conclusion here. The arc can just as easily end quite quickly as it can go very long
@digital spear
!rmd list
I don't think hks or imu will get defeated pre laughtale
I dont have anything like that
I don't think the brook and gunko fb happens in elbaf btw
Same
yeah those are the sort of things a non bright Oda would do
2 months to become mod
Direct mod
Oh
the idea of saving Brook and Gunko's flashback for later is just pointless, there's no need to save it for later when they arent going to encounter Imu again for a very long time
Maybe it happens after imu stops the body possession
this is it, this is THE arc to see it through to its resolution
the entire storyline
well, i doubt imu is going to stop possessing gunko till luffy or loki is fighting her
watched the two Romance Dawn adaptations, why tf did they animate Gear Third so gross in the first one lmao
panel of the day @grand flower
this jit cracked him to death
What did they do š
Yeah and Oda has to deal with it anyway
Theres no point in moving at a fast speed in Elbaf if you just put out stuff that you have to show later anyway
giga banger
Ayo?
yea
well the whole idea only exists cause Oda said that lol, but again as with all his statements, you just have to ignore it because he has no idea what he is talking about
Loki is him
true
Loki > Kaido
false
Zoro > Loki > Kaido > Usopp
He actually could be lol
Loki keeps to more and more become the Kaido people wanted
His strength is being hyped up in the same vein as Kaidoās was
Yes?
Why do people keep denying his strength??? It has to be some Loki 4 Nakama shit or something
Are you really going to do this rn?
Just say Kaido with a good backstory LMAO
Loki has everything, broken df, great haki and great weapon
Kaido had 2 of those
WORLDS STRONGEST CREATURE (for 2 years) (after Whitebeards death) (while Loki was chained)
He killed someone Imu deemed unstoppable
Nobody shat on Kaidos strength until that absolutely disrespectful flashback
Weāre not saying Loki is weak, just donāt compare him to Kaido
Kaido is a serious less exaggerated buggy
Imu is literally confused about how tf Harald was defeated
well yeah
Loki even had the moment where he jumped from somewhere higg to kill himself but couldnt, its crazy
And you know why Iām saying this
He killed someone imu deemed unstoppable
this is just going to be Devil Fruit shenanigans anyways
Tell me a good reason why we shouldnt
Climbing up trees?
Like by Characters
Loki overpowered and killed someone Imu deemed unstoppable
Donāt ping Socrates please 
Yes, he jumped from the sun to the underworld and cried because he couldnt die, then Xebec met him
Heāll have a ball from this conversation
And reach a conclusion
Loki with Ragnir and the fruit is just him. And he has the physical strength of Harald. Ok heās not as durable or hardy as Kaido but neither is Rocks or Roger etcā¦
I think people gotta relax, it is clearly very impressive but you dont have to immediately put him ahead of everyone ever because of this
Is that the only reason
Evan?? 
I just want Imu to win
Smooth has to be the best ragebaiter ever
Well hes below shanks
well
Iām saying his strength is clearly on par with legendary characters such as the emperors. I can very well see him being as strong as Luffy or even currently a bit stronger
I am beginning to doubt whether a fight even happened as well, but we'll see
Come on man. Youāre comparing me to Socrates, Hathor and SB? 
Please donāt lol
How hasnāt he proven to be as strong as Luffy is the thing
If this flashback cut out God Valley it would have been a 10/10
Youre more subtle
Down from the 15/10 it is
And yea, Iām starting to think Shanks didnāt actually defeat him in straight combat. My theory is that Shanks managed to convince him to not attack the WG coz thatād be suicide. And in order to keep up the pretense that he was the one who killed Harald, heād have to allow himself to be imprisoned on Elbaf
Are you seeing this?? 
He might be as powerful as Luffy atleast, but even that remains to be seen though because what if Luffy ends up beating a Domi'd Loki? that would make this whole take real silly
Im sorry
Zoro
Why have ppl turned on god valley
wow
(Cause I liked Wano)
If only all arcs were like god valley
Im of the belief that Shanks and Loki didnāt go all out but Shanks also looked superior in their fight
I've been hating since 1161
somehow the crazier take of the two takes š
I go by what Oda wants the reader to believe. Lokiās hype has been reminiscent of Kaido and BMās back in the day. It is what it is
š¤·āāļø
Shanks out drank Kaido
Wano feeds off later contextualization
Wano has a lot of dumb shit but GV managed to be worse in 5 chapters
I just think itās unfair comparing him to Kaido given what Kaido has done for the fandom
Yea thereās already precedent for something like this with the Kaido Marineford thing
I think being too much even for Prime Gaban and Young Shanks is a feat that puts you on the level of G5
That just me
I think shanks beat him but im starting to doubt it was 1v1
I think beckmann and the others held off ragnir while shanks fought loki
I also believe something similar to this, because there's no way shanks beat loki so bad that loki was sent back to elbaf and got chained up seeing how much stronger loki was than shanks.
again, we gotta wait and see what the fruit does on this, I think it may have been uniquely equipped to deal with the immortals somehow in ways that Gaban and Shanks just werent.
Its not just immortality that made Harald a threat
Gaban expressed his conquerors haki as well
Gear 5 minutes mention?
it wasnt just that but its the one thing that he did highlight even this chapter lol
I doubt it wasn't at least a fight. Clearly loki is not liking that he was captured. And also has a grudge on shanks
It was Ragnir
And he got put in what was seemingly a load of bandages
Loki is a Ragnir merchant
I want to know what happened to the 2 surviving guards that went with Loki
You can't say that when he has that whole fruit
Didnr use it for the killing blow
He's a fruit AND ragnir merchant
It was all Ragnir in the killing blow
loki can't use his weapon in peace anymore
Ragnir provided the firepower for the killing blow but Harald had become normal at that point, briefly
thats where the fruit may have done its thing
@runic dock this how you do it
Because Oda didn't want to show Loki's form
I dont think its that deep
it was a joint effort. Loki made harald snap back to normal using his fruit after beating him up. Then he used ragnirs lightning plus his own acoc
This is just headcanon
That still makes Loki a Ragnir merchant

silhouette piece 1171 chapters inš
is it? I mean Loki beat him up in his DF and he returned back to normal for a second, that is what happened
Theyre not real people we dont have to respect their feelings or anything, just consider that
- Imu and the CDs (biggest current bad guy group) want him to be a holy knight
- He has similar backstory beats to Kaido (born as a monster, climbed up the tree as a baby, as a kid he tried suicide by dropping kilometers down to the ground, literally Kaido)
- Ragnir, a weapon that accepted nobody for 800 years accepted Lokis strength, and we could assume Harald tried to take it too, said weapon is now part of Lokis arsenal
- Harald was equal or close to Xebec, and an Imu controlled Harald which not even Shanks and Gaban could stop, was killed by Loki, which Imu was flabbergasted about
Sorry but still not even wanting to COMPARE him to Kaido is just weirdly placed admiration here, Kaido was the strongest creature for a while, now the series is evolving
Loki I can understand. But I think it's time for imu
Thatās what i told Shuron the first time lmao
It's getting a bit weird
Loki fruit did the work FIRST
ah
Silhouette piece will never die
Oda will still be doing the silhouette gimmick in the final war and yall have to accept it
This would have been peak š
yeah lol, the fruit did its thing, and then once its thing had brought back Harald to normal, Ragnir can step in and finish the job. The DF is definitely the key here
the final war will just be silhouettes clashing with each other once every 15 chapters
Imagine joyboy stays a silhouette forever even after the end 
this doesnt work because we had seen two Warlord silhouettes already by then anyways
Garp called it a black monster , itās not a silhouette at all , itās just one of its canonical layers , as I still believe thereās a body being used under there
Imu is just Moria upscale
Yeah hopefully it is. That would explain a lot
Did its thing like?
something
Because even the optcg card is that black form lmao
Harald still regenerates after the fruit assault so
yeah but he was normal for a bit
Gtfo putting a silhouette on a card of a specific character lmao
or Doflamingo's clone
I think the black blob is going to be like that for Imu
Haki already does that
because Imu never physically appears in GV, he just possesses Saturn and manifests through his physical body
It could be, I still believe thereās could either be a dead body being used OR someoneās body being made immortal being used under there , and it may not be imus body
i kinda don't mind silhouette piece honestly
the only time it really bothered me was the scenes of Oden before his proper flashback, i guess
hello, earl
Hello person I donāt know
it required Garp and Roger to throw in all their Haki for that to happen with Xebec, Loki didnt do that, he just used what looked like his hybrid to fight
Yeah the fruit powers picked up the slack for what he lacked in the difference between himself and Roger and garp
yea
Tbh we have to wait for how it works cause itās strange
I was thinking Imu is for some reason unable to leave Marie Geoise personally, and it forces him to use these kind of avatars to move around. His real body will look different from the blobs
one piece
So far it doesnāt seem like haki can do the job
one piece indeed
I think the fruit played a big role itās just visually Oda didnāt want to reveal anything about it so it looks like it didnāt help with the final hit
Lokis fruit I mean
I assumed Loki in base had a passive effect
crazy how the flashback is over now
From his fruit
how yall rate the flashback out of 10
11
peak
8
The only thing I could want beyond what we got is all the secrets revealed
What else
What is the D , what is the one piece ? Whose father is dying sadly next? Only these things could be greater than the flashback we got
Even if we could figure that out we still canāt figure out what it stands for

real
D as in Dog
9/10
7
š you just said GV was your wano
wano is a 2/10
break next week btw
GV portion is like a 3/10
The first part with Harald and baby Loki is 8/10
Rocks part is 9/10
End with Harald and Loki is 9/10
Yeah it seems likely that nobody except for Loki could damage a regen user except for Joyboy himself
The fact that Imu themselves don't seem to even know what the fruit could've been makes me think the fruit isn't just a unique ability to damage the HKs. I think it was a combination between Loki's strength and weapons
So like Loki at 16 has been the first to damage Imu for about 800 years, simple as that š¤·āāļø
GV is so peak people have to downgrade just to balance the scales š
Garp and Roger somehow don't exist
Eh GV wasnt that amazing
Garp and Roger did not kill a regen user
Garp and Roger knocked out Xebec from Domi Reversi
When he's not in Domi Reversi, he doesn't regen
Didn't but very much could have
He was gonna die
Yeah, after being knocked out of Domi Reversi
Socrates is right they did not kill him , they weakened him a lot but someone else did the killing blow , they very much couldnāt have because they were quite literally immobilized
Rocks himself couldāve gotten up
Yeah they had the power to kill someone with Imu regeneration
It feels like he couldve been saved but then Garling killed him
With treatment sure, but he was dying
Have I ever told you how much I love you earl š„¹
They had the power to knock someone out of Domi Reversi
Rocks couldn't have gotten up on his own. Roger and Garp were awake after he was knocked out they could have easily stabbed him an finished him off but decided not to
Rocks was struggling not to fade away
U lnfortunately they had almost enough power , both of them combined failed to kill him while getting knocked out themselves , if the HK didnāt arrive , rocks himself couldāve gotten up and killed them
He was dying
Plus there's a guy called Luffy too
No he couldnāt have lol
Idk if y'all heard about him
Yeah pretty much that
Luffy can't kill regen users quite yet
Roger and Garp were completely down and out, They very much wouldnāt have been able to deal the killing blow at all
Which is why I didn't say he could
They didnāt wake up for a long time
This is headcanon , he didnāt say he was struggling to stay awake
I'm sure you hate the playing field being locked off to Loki and Joyboy himself
He was literally dreading still being alive
But this is pretty much all we know
Roger and Garp couldnāt get up
He has the largest critical mass of haki attack on the show to date. If there's anyone who can kill a Regen user it's Luffy.
They were too exhausted
Rocks was in about the same state as them
If not a bit worse
The whole "mass" thing was to overcome Rocks' ACoC
They couldāve gotten killed too if Gaban and Rayleigh didnāt arrive to take them away , by the HK
Not to overcome his regeneration
As a result of overcoming his ACoC, Rocks was knocked out of Domi Reversi
We donāt know that yet , he doesnāt even have the same haki mass as Roger yet
Heās basically in the same position Lucci was in back in water 7
So like do you think he has to sew his opponents to kill them
He was fading from his injuries
Reversi doesnāt have regen
Yeah , which is what heās dreading ? Youāre misunderstanding this page completely , heās surprised he might actually walk away from this
They have undying bodies
If hes leaving the island alive, yes. Without anyone coming to kill him, which happened
Domi Reversi just reverts the victim to their previous body after being knocked out of DR
So yeah
Which doesnāt include regen yea
Rocksā eyes are dull/faded and heās unsure himself if heās gonna survive
He was dying
Show me an island sized haki attack
Yeah this
Looks like that part just means their organs just float around

As seen with Brogy
Thatās not a full island sized fist btw , onigashima is much smaller than wano
Rocks had a missing tooth and blood on him
Usually that disappears
With the regeneration the HKs and the Elders have
Yeah, Luffy might be able to knock someone with ACoC out of Domi Reversi
Even the blood doesnāt remain
I mean Wano itself If a big ass island and isnt really a hood representation of most islands in OP
on a related note, luffy could destroy wano with enough speed behind bajrang gun
And Roger and Garp are straight up knocked out, Rocks doesnt look worse than them, they all would die to their wounds its a matter of if someone would save them
There are multiple island sizes but at the end of the day Onigashima is an island. But no matter I don't wanna get into the semantics, just show me a haki attack larger than this
The size of the fist can mean something sure , Iām not gonna say this attack can kill an HK tho
Joyboys haki knot blast on Egghead
Or Harald & Rocks clashing
Okay so theyre all dying and all would have died without treatment
Also this chapter gave us the reason Imu was on the ground at the end of egghead when Joyboy's haki was let out. They felt the recoil of Joyboy's haki taking the Gorosei out of the fight and sending them back to the holy land
Rocks would have survived , same as all of them , but they were all immobilized , and someone took Roger and garp away while someone killed rocks , rocks wasnāt dying , Roger couldāve died the same way
This is an ACOC attack radiating with island volumes of conquers haki as well as advanced arnament haki. This attack easily negated the coat of mountain melting magma kaido enveloped himself with and still had enough force to plummet him miles deep into the bedrock
Hey size isnāt everything bro
Luffys acoc isnāt st the level of even Roger yet , especially not joyboy , we know this and we know he can become stronger
Joyboys haki was stronger and larger I'll admit that
Oh I didnt see this, yeah
i guess that does make more sense than imu feeling the haki all the way from egghead
Luffy wasnāt able to scratch warcury at all
He has room to grow
I donāt see any reason to believe Rocks would have lived without treatment when he himself is unsure of if heās gonna live
Also it means they aren't cowering in fear like everyone thought lmfao
He was dying of his injuries and would have succumbed if left alone
Thatās not him being unsure if heās gonna live , he was surprised he was gonna walk away from this alive despite all the effort and seeing them knocked out
though this does feel like a pretty major weakness for imu
Bajrang Gun is one of the most potent attacks we've seen till date.
You can read it that way
Exactly Domi Reversi does not seem to be a regeneration power. If you can hit someone out of Domi Reversi beyond their defensive threshold, they are knocked out of Domi Reversi. Only when they are knocked out of Domi Reversi can they actually be killed. Loki on the other hand killed Harald as Harald was a Holy Knight and indirectly damages Imu, which likely hasn't been done for about 800 years
I think Imu felt it through the Gorosei
Thatās the way to read it , youāre the only one with the obtuse reading
He was able to recognize it
It is and I'm sure Imu has a plan for it now. Joyboy's haki was unexpected so I get why they would get hit by it
So Loki at 16 was the first to damage Imu in 800 years and people are just going to have to live with that
Did we skip Wano
In this case he completely lost Harald
i assume imu could cancel the contract before a knight or someone dies
like they did to saturn
lol no, youāre reading it as disbelief when disbelief usually has different phrasing
āUsuallyā
āWill I leave this island aliveā is more like Rocks genuinely doesnt know whatās about to happen to him
Case closed
I wish
Imu feels garling is about to die, Sucks the power out of him and gets stronger himself as it returns to Imu
Exactly Loki at 16 killed him and it seems that this hasn't been done since the time of Joyboy
Iām not gonna act like itās universal when itās not
Thats a pretty okay series...
This means he has acoc , peopleās acoc can clearly get stronger
Thatās why said you can read it that way if you want to
Whatever man I dont wanna even try atp š„
though that starts to remind me of a certain other battle shonenā¦
So there can he different ways disbelief comes off as
Okay?
Was he able to damage warcury or not?
Itās a great series
It literally can get stronger though what do you mean
We always return back to classic cliches and stuff
I just said that
Y'all I can't even š
I think Rocks wouldāve died without treatment but that line to me reads like he doesnāt know whatās gonna happen to him. Heās left alone & motionless on an island thatās essentially done for
Thatās what heās talking about
I just started it
Yeah you can't because you're wrong lol
ACoC gets stronger with more output
It's because you guys lack the proper reading comprehension skills required and instead twist my points into shit I didn't even say like I don't wanna bother with people who are actively tryna gaslight me into thinking that I said or implied something I didn't 
Ohhh that's why, nobody here has the intellect of someone as intelligent as you
Gosh you should've said that in the first place
Dude just yesterday you were saying how much you loved being gaslit. Donāt you remember? Are you feeling okay?
I think I'm just moody š
blackbeard when he goes blue mode
Why is he blue
What if Rocksā epithet was Bluebeard
Buggybeard
if he had a blue beard thatād make sense
I spit on my macbook display
Whats wrong with this thing
whitebeard (mustache)
bluebeard (sideburns)
Skill issue
Hes going nuts
Someone tried to get the mythical fruit of Elbaph
This is Ragnir's battle cry
He's so majestic š„¹ā¤ļø

Webec

i need to get a glue true emote

Im literally starving for one
Please
Give me ...
I hope you like it
can someone analyze the hex code of the blue on Rocksā hair and the one from the most recent colored pic of buggy?
Dude Buggy doesnt NEED to be Rocks son
The spread of blue
He doesnāt need to but he is
Hold on this is peak
blackbeard if he was a good character
This goes hard
lol at people comparing freezing Draugr to Kuzan
Heās probably his nephew or something atp
Because Freezing Draugr slams Kuzan............... Right?
But Kuzan is faster and can freeze his opponents
Well that might be what some say
I'm joking
Me too twin how don't u know the freezing joke
Loki vs Imu seems set in stone
rip loki
Along with Luffy
shanks wins
then again we already got to use rocks as a way to show how strong imu is so maybe loki will be spared
Fall for it
I have fallen for it numerous times 
Some doubted Rocksā plan
Ya know its kinda funny how after all the haki transcends shit, Loki gets introduced, eats a df and suddenly becomes pirate king level š
the truth cannot be ragebait
So, Does shanks win against Imu?
Shanks may still have fought him
Against Roger?
As said as it is to say
i mean that and also the top tier weapon he obtained
Yes
All of them?
Well maybe not Imu
It was ragebait 
we might be losing the plot with this format
Shanks cannot be slandered as he has nothing to bring him down
Shanks loses to all the people I mentioned above btw š
There is no "black paint" for Shanks
Haki knots?
Well he is always late
They're shanks exclusive
Meet.. Late Man..
The haki knot thing is so surreal
Generally even the most agenda stuff is based on SOMETHING
This one is like 100% insanity
haki knots being used to slander Shanks is because the rat slander was proven to be false
It's funny icl 
black paint is alright
Itās bad
not as bad as haki knot
Out of all the slander
black paint has long since ran its course but itās still bizarre that mihawk has the only black sword
Itās garbage
They're both funny. But the black paint is kinda old now.
It's because he's the WSS?
but he implies itās haki that lets you do it
Meh
Black blade but no acoc
oda making black blade more rare than CoC and Logia is insane
and i doubt rocks or roger had that much weaker haki than mihawk
That's a Kuzan-type power though
Didn't he do that with Garp
Ice is
he always use that
Iām just talking about the scale of it
Only two people in the history of swordsmen have it.
greenbull and mihawk 
People too high on hype claimed itās > Kuzan
There must be some insane criteria
Oh ok
Well it's certainly the 2nd in place compared to Kuzan
we already went to the country that made the first black blade
and the only info we got was "forged"
ok oda mr vague man
Considering ice isn't even Ragnir's main element
Black blades are supposed to be very rare
Mihawk definitely has ACoC lol
It's not confirmed
Even if he does, People will still slander him.
the GB sword is still up in the air if its black or not
What suggests he does is is sword black in manga
If he does it's definitely not his
Surely the anime staff saw his sword as black
90% chance it isnāt but itād be so funny if it was
But they still for whatever reason
True š
greenbull of all people having the only other black blade
Although the colored manga changed it
It just doesnāt make sense
The disconnect
maybe it is soul related to obtain it 
Tho I hardly trust the animeās colours atp
I hope it is
lets be real people just dont want this guy to have a black blade
Bro got a sword for the fashion
Well it's mostly cause Shanks scared him
He stabbed his pants to make space for it
it is very sus
cuz thats not a scabbard
So it'd look bad if he had one
He doesn't even use it š
Of course he could always have just stole it from someone
Black blades r weird bc theyāre hella rare but not all that powerful I mean zoro got a pretty significant upgrade going from shusui to enma
Thatās what it would seem but we also donāt know everything
even if its not GBs sword the owner of the 3rd blade is still very interesting
if itās different in the hands of the one who forged it
True
Maybe the simplest explanation is that ryuma isn't as powerful as we think he is.
he might have just killed the guy
he wouldnt be that mean
He would
ricardo would never..
i think wado should be the first sword zoro obtains the black blade with as it means more to him.
thatd make sense
odens dad made it sound like enma was really close to being a black blade
Mr black blade himself
They probably just never break
this mf
if only greenbull didnt arrive a week late
His outfit looks great in color
he couldve achieved his goal
i wonder how did rayleigh not obtain a black blade. Like what did he not do enough i wonder.
everything looks great
not these tho wtf is that
the black and green pants are very nice
Live long enough imo, I think people who have black blades arenāt the first people that sword was created for
Just a theory
Itās passed down swords that have gone thru pressure over time
I think there is some insane criteria for a black blade.
Like, It's so rare. I don't think haki alone is the criteria.
And it would take more than a lifetime
but he's 78 š
Yeah it would take more than a lifetime perhaps
maybe one day oda will actually let zoro fight a real swordman
not some DF users
Like zoroās sword , itās not his first wielder
Enma was crafted around 55 years ago I think
did this literally just refer to normal armament
And Zoro will prob make it black
And zoro hasnāt turned any of his swords black
But he's talking about black blade. Not armament haki.
I thought a flashback like that would lead into it going permanently black
Whatās the point
i think zoro thought armament was the only thing he needed but after the bridge scene he discovered something
which oda hid from us
Zoro focused on the word āforgedā
i dont think this means anything deeper than "your sword can become black like mine if you use armament to do so"
what mihawk says here implies zoro already mastered it by now (ie. imbuing haki into your blade)
all i know is zoro has been feeding enma constant haki in current arc
when while hes eating
If armament FORGES black blades over time , my theory could still apply, where for SOME swords , due to their users , they had to be forged over multiple lifetimes
But if youāre a goat you can do it in one lifetime
notice mihawk says every weapon. i wonder if one can also turn non-bladed weapons into a permanent "black blade" as well so to speak 
Mihawkās comment there seems more like a temporary thing
Because once you stop coating in haki
Itās done
But it can imply that a permanent one does involve the use of CoA
How do you know when you turned your black hammer into a black blade?


yknow this just reminded me of the fact that haki is supposed to be invisible and appears black to the reader
but what mihawk says implies haki can make things appear black in universe
What was Zephyrās name
Zephyr
Aloha!

yeah black arm zephyr
Black Arm
make up your mind oda
What if he's the man marked by flames? 
Zephyr was the admiral Rocks killed 56 yrs ago
Hmmmm to both of those
oda would rather die than canonize zephyr
Im gonna die him then
Wait
Wrong verb
dunno maybe he just still cant control enma using his haki
Iām gonna canonize him then
Itās probably so it doesnāt get dirty
Surely the blade isnt sterile is it? That cant be a clean way to eat meat
doubtful
no
He doesnāt have to use Enma yk
Who cares
To eat
zoro will die of an infection in 2 years
Tera cares.
still tastes a bit like leopard meat
Do yk whos tera?
enhanced the flavor
he licks that blade, eats from the blade
Teen titans?
oh
U SBS SKIPPER
Ye idk if Zoro cares that much anyway
I was like why are you talking about teen titans
oh i thought you meant terabyte
Youāve eaten leopard meat?
Hell no!
tera is probably dead anyway so it all works out
no im just assuming it tastes like leopard because zoro recently fought lucci
Sorry forgot the all important character that is Zoroās mom
A one piece mom? dead?

all i remember is pinzoro
The earth š š¤
any loki fans in chat?
Good bit, keep it up
And his fathers name is storm
Yea ifw loki
Lokiās so cool
Ik my nigga loki was innocent man
I love Loki
Iām not gonna say it
MY GOAT IS LOKI š„¹ā¤ļø
why not
this feels like it was so long ago
we thinking loki fruit next chapter?
doubt it
or oda gonna keep it hidden for longer
No
Yea
I don't think Loki will be shown for most of next chapter
Its gonna be lokiās hand transformed at the end of the chapter
i assume we're gonna follow zoro, gaban and hajrudin up
Maybe at the end or the chapter after next chapter
the fighting is starting and im sure we'll start with punching/hammer strikes but things will heat up quickly
not yet, I think next chapter will end with the team getting to the sun world
i dont think itll be in next chapter but i could see the transformation being the end of chapter cliffhanger
maybe in 2 or 3 chapters
oda might even do transformation cliffhanger then cut away
yeah thatās probably what will happen
you think theyāll get up there before Luffy and Loki?
absolutely
Yeah prolly
When imu calls zoro āryumaā

Insanity

But possible
Oda will milk it for as long as he can
goda fr
its gonna be giant robot in egghead level shit
where there were like 3-4 different chapter cliffhangers before it paid off
the sword ?
loki fruit
š
kid will definitely use this sword
Nah this is crazy
Tbh
That was low-key why Kaido wasnāt shown using more stuff vs Oden
Oda likes to keep it under wraps if itās a character in the present
True with characters Oda's trying to hide we can assume there's a lot more to the fight Oda gives us a peek at
Like Loki vs Harald and Kaido vs Oden
Surely he'll wake up and use the one in Elbaf
Can't wait to see this fruit
I bet you're living the best life rn Socrates
Loki is finally showing us what he's capable of 
idk if anyone cares but what do u guys think about ryuma
Must suck for Heart Pirate Queen
I'm still confused on if the WG ever sent people to Wano during his time there
I re-read Monsters and it didn't say much about that
i js rewatch monster and its kinda interesting
in monster ryuma already have shusui black
Monsters wouldnāt tell you anything about that
so i was wondering did he got it from someone else or he actually use his haki
Itās pre OP
Oh ok
Then I don't get where it says the WG sent people to where Ryuma was
In the manga
Because people tried to say he was killing Holy Knights like Loki at 16 did
I find him very cool and interesting and I was upset we didn't see Zoro paying his respects at Ryuma's grave
oh i think they saw the pattern on ryuma robe
2026 is his year trust 
it has this symbols of the knights
Though it doesnāt have to mean Knights
Rly
on his waist
I don't remember the WG doing anything in relation to Ryuma's place while he was alive
it has the s symbol thingy like shamrock colar
Iād assume Ryuma could use conquerors
Oh this I see
and i saw people took refference from sbs or smth that ryuma was between void century and current timeline in OP so around 400 years ago and from monster, dragon existed
loki mentioned
Yeah probably but did the WG even send anyone to Wano during Ryuma's life
They did
yea
Where is that mentioned
and he was known as the strongest swordman of the world?
Onimaru says the Celestial Dragons wanted it
Perchance
I just posted the page
Okay
That doesn't mean they were sent there
The walls of Wano still made it almost impossible for most to enter right
Just read the page breh
I am reading the page and it doesn't say they sent anyone
It then says one man stood fast and mighty against these enemies
Hm maybe I was reading it wrong 
I donāt think they would leave just cause he told them to
Hed have to beat their asses
To make it known
then what was the reason for ryuma to leave wano at the first place
When did he leave
true
Ryuma was buried in Wano
but monster took place somewhere look nothing like wano right?
Monsters doesnāt quite fit within the manga
I would compare it to like a movie almost
yeah it wasnāt made with one piece in mind
nothing like the sea so i think it was before the 2nd high tide
what if wano just had a brief american western period
When they put the SHs in special settings for movies
then it went back to japan
Itās kinda like that
yeah it was one of the 6 one shots oda made
It was supposed to be a stand alone thing until the episode
Thatās where they connected it with OP
Because Ryuma is a character in OP
But itās still not canon
but based on how romance dawn became one piece now and monster has it own adaptation
i wonder if the other stories will
canāt wait to see oda canonize godās gift for this wonderful world next
ah no its future present from god
what if those short stories before romance dawn was like the lore of one piec world lol
I mean just think of Shiki
Proper character in the manga
But had his own movie with its own stuff
Who cares about canon itās all fake anyways
everything is canon






