also-manga

[sage temple]

Oh niflheim has it's own fruit

I seeeeeee

[thick mango]

what are the elves like in this lore

[sage temple]

I can lowkey see this then

Highkey

[thick mango]

just saying elves doesnt mean much to someone unfamiliar

[sage temple]

That makes sense

But Oda would not do that lmao

[vital heart]

Tontattas is what I'm thinking.

[spice cairn]

Is the squirrel a wizard

[trim lily]

warlock squirrel

[thick mango]

well are the elves of this mytology not like.. having particular traits?

[spice cairn]

Does he have the warlock warlock fruit

[keen quiver]

Yeah like I get hyped about the future. But sometimes reminds me of the elemental haki debacle from film red.

[spice cairn]

Where he just uses spells

[thick mango]

hi gl hf

[mighty shell]

ab cd ef

[trim lily]

if you mean norse mythology i don’t think there’s much on the elves, just a name drop here and there

[sage temple]

[sage temple]

Loki Imu counter confirmed

[sage temple]

Oh should I say, Ragnir Imu counter

[spice cairn]

Loki in 3 chapters:

[mighty shell]

we live in a timeline where a squirrel is a contender for top 10 in the verse

[trim lily]

squirrel w

[vital heart]

Who wants to know my guess?

[fallen meteor]

Alfheim idk
Vanaheim some plant shit (USOPP!!!!)
Muspelheim obviously fire attacks
Jotunheim size manip?
Hel uhhh attacks that hit the soul and thats why he can do more damage to HKs
Nioavellir uhh maybe a smoke grenade thing with darkness
Midgard i guess more regular attack power

[trim lily]

it might even be baby loki tier

[spice cairn]

Big Mom, Kaido and Moria were cosplaying Loki attacks

[fallen meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/squirrel-dancing-squirrel-oh-yeah-win-dance-gif-16411835

[mighty shell]

it would be pretty sick if big mom's homies were inspired by the abilities of ragnir

[spice cairn]

Ragnir is so good we had characters trying to mimmick a fraction of its power.

[wraith mantle]

I just noticed ragnir was squeaking this chapter

[vital heart]

Asgard (Lightning)
Niflheim (Ice)
Alfheim (Elf Land, Light Elves) --> Shrinking ability or Light ability
Vanaheim (Lush Jungles, Magic, Wisdom, Dangerous Fauna and Flore) --> Poison Ability
Muspelheim (Realm of Fire) --> Magma/Fire ability
Jotunheim (Realm of Giants) --> Size change ability (so either Ragnir or Loki can shrink)
Hel (Underworld, Afterlife) --> Summon souls from the underworld
Nioavellir (Black Elves, Dwarves, World of Darkness) --> Summon Darkness and Black Holes
Midgard (Middle Earth, Earth) --> Make Earthquakes/Vibrations

Thoughts?

@wraith mantle @spice cairn @mighty shell @fallen meteor @trim lily

[trim lily]

that’s certainly a lot

[spice cairn]

Thats quite insane for a fruit.

[trim lily]

mythical zoan moment

[fallen meteor]

maybe Loki has the (cloud) quetzalcoatl mythical zoan (logia) and gets a lot of weather powers

[sage temple]

Hm I honestly see it

[wraith mantle]

If you are right, I will buy you an iPhone 18 pro

[trim lily]

part of the reason i don’t really like them

[cosmic hamlet]

Search in this server

[sage temple]

Ratatoskr is a squirrel that travels between realms

[mighty shell]

do NOT promise this

[sage temple]

It having this power would make sense

Ngl

I support it Meek

[wraith mantle]

Ooops

[fallen meteor]

i dont like summoning souls fromt he underworld and black holes lmao but the rest is fine

[tranquil blade]

They're on the iphone 18 now?

[mighty shell]

wait this is true i'd forgotten about that

[tranquil blade]

Holy

[mighty shell]

my knowledge of magnus chase is fading

[wraith mantle]

Yeah

[sage temple]

Well theres a reason Imu was so scared

[tranquil blade]

I'm still using an XR

[wraith mantle]

My 13 is ancient now ig

[mighty shell]

kids these days don't know how big the 6 was

[trim lily]

anyone still on the ipod

[fallen meteor]

the 6 was big but the 7 was bigger

[sage temple]

Ratatoskr is a Squirrel that travels from realm to realm, each attack from Ragnir produces the main ability/element associated with each realm. I could see it being a Ratatoskr Zoan

[tranquil blade]

https://tenor.com/view/lowtiercat-ptsdcat-gif-2094566730569540919

[fallen meteor]

honestly i'm not even @ ing you anymore i just hope you are lurking

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/sips-tea-gif-10558867

[fallen meteor]

guys i'm going to say it

i know nobody wants to

[trim lily]

[spice cairn]

Hes scared because Harald, and Loki mostly, are destined to be apart of D judging by the fact that Loki is the 2nd Sovereign. But his power is also a part of it yeah.

Harald gave birth to a monster

[fallen meteor]

mythical zoan df weapon + mythical zoan df user is too much

[trim lily]

it is

[fallen meteor]

like yeah sure somebody on the story has to have it

[spice cairn]

What if I told you he has a 2nd fruit.

[sage temple]

Yeah there are plenty of different reasons ngl

[fallen meteor]

there needs to be someone with it

[sage temple]

Not really lmao

[fallen meteor]

and i know loki is strong without those

[sage temple]

It might not even be mythical

It could be ancient

[fallen meteor]

but its so lame if both are mythicals

[trim lily]

what the hell does loki’s fruit do if ragnir can do all this

does he even need it

[austere flint]

Lokiiii

[sage temple]

Yeah Loki is strong without them but it isn't too much. Shanks never gets a "too much"

[austere flint]

[tranquil blade]

It's time to give up powerscaling

[runic dock]

Go higuma go!

[sage temple]

His fruit like doubles his size as well

Loki is just an anomaly in general and you're gonna have to live with it

[trim lily]

luffy’s face looks weird

for 30 more chapters i will

[fallen meteor]

if i found powerscaling dumb with loki having 2 mythicals (like it looks like so far) i can safely never engage with it seriously

[trim lily]

unless we get the loki cover story of him travelling around elbaf

[runic dock]

Almost like he’s having fun

Cool bb , shiny chest

[mighty shell]

when he gives it to usopp will it be okay

[sage temple]

It really isn't that crazy honestly

[fallen meteor]

the mythical dfs combo would be good for a villain

[sage temple]

You're acting like Loki can't be strong

[vital heart]

LOKI:

• Has the Body of Harald
• Ambition of Rocks
• Devil Fruit abilities like Kaido and Big Mom's in one
• Haki of Joyboy and Shanks
• Charisma of Roger
• Two Devil Fruits and a Dream like Blackbeard
• A Family like Whitebeard (nonexistant)
• The Strength of Davy Jones.

[sage temple]

Like it'll cause a plothole in the story if he has so much

[runic dock]

Chill, he’s joining bb anyway

Bb is getting him thru a Davy back fight

[mighty shell]

a family like whitebeard 💀

[trim lily]

charisma of roger lol

[fallen meteor]

i will let you write what i'm saying so i can know what i'm thinking then

be right back

[mighty shell]

everyone hates loki's ass he has negative charisma

[dapper tree]

This is my OC

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/sips-tea-gif-10558867

[runic dock]

Stop capping

[dapper tree]

That's my OC, he's super duper strong cool ND special

[tranquil blade]

I'm suspecting the jjk editor is behind this

[sage temple]

Anyways Loki's power is extreme ngl

Dude's in an entire different league

[dapper tree]

That's Meek for you

[mighty shell]

loki has the most powerful devil fruit in the series except of course for satoru gojo

[trim lily]

loki would be a better character if he was green

[dapper tree]

TRUE

[vital heart]

You know what?

This made me think.

I am excited for Buggy and Loki to interact. I feel like they'll have a role to play together.... Buggy is the modern day Rocks.. Loki is the modern day Rocks/Harald.

[dapper tree]

Banned for OS tho

Sorry

[runic dock]

He’s super strong and has like 2 and a half abilities but it’s actually like 10 abilities one one and he can kill immortals and he’s the tallest giant ever and he’s cooler than his dad and

[sage temple]

Hm I can definitely see this ngl

[mighty shell]

it's okay it's not your fault it's mine

[dapper tree]

And and he super strong strongest there is, no one he can't kill,

[sage temple]

Loki could join them

[grand flower]

The Balls of Very Good

[vital heart]

LOKI IN CROSSGUILD

HOLY SHIT

[dapper tree]

[mighty shell]

lmfao

[vital heart]

GALLEILA JOINS CROSS GUILD

GHOHLY

HOLY SHIT

[dapper tree]

Meek

[trim lily]

you got it

[dapper tree]

Take your meds!

[runic dock]

Literally can’t be killed and can kill anyone , can never be tricked or fooled because he’s trickster god of course …what else?

[dapper tree]

Chill

[runic dock]

I’m forgetting something I know it

[trim lily]

meek cracked the code

[vital heart]

I haven't updated this shit since September, man.

[dapper tree]

Garbage

[sage temple]

Galleila would be more like the fleet of CG if Loki joins

But I can see where you're coming from ngl

[mighty shell]

they had to tie him up cause he's a bad guy but he was just misunderstood and is actually nicies and don't forget really really strong

[trim lily]

hes very angsty and rude but hes a sweetheart on the inside

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-thinking-shrug-gif-15513444017380686865

[vital heart]

**CROSS GUILD POTENTIAL NEW MEMBERS **
(last updated: 01/16/26 - chapter 1171)

Boa Hancock (Rocks/Gloriosa connection)
Weevil (Rocks/Whitebeard connection)
Kozuki Moria (Galleila connection)
Perona

Vinsmoke Judge (NEO Mads)
Caesar Clown (NEO Mads)
Queen (if join NEO mads)
Bon Clay (connection to Crocodile & Daz Bones)
Donquixote Doflamingo
Donquixote pirates (connection to Doflamingo)

Loki & the Galleila (Harald connection)

[glacial bear]

Gaimon definitely joining Cross Guild because he & the animals were super cool with Buggy

[runic dock]

OH an he also has a crazy cool hammer that can be a super cute squirrel whenever it wants , did I mention it has 10 abilities!?! I think I did but I’ll say it again he has 10 abilities

[spice cairn]

Im joining Loki

Mostly because you get free pistachios on joining

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/squirrel-squirrel-harbor-shout-out-squirrel-harbor-shaggy-and-the-creep-satc-gif-17101184364234558591

[trim lily]

eww

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-gaimon-gaimon-one-piece-buggy-buggy-one-piece-gif-5215843109989922321

[mighty shell]

don't squirrels eat peanuts

[runic dock]

It truly does come off as a 13 year olds fan fiction

[spice cairn]

Loki is a squirrel that likes pistachios

[runic dock]

Good job pasta

[mighty shell]

close enough welcome back yamato

[spice cairn]

I used to think this till I tried them without the shell

[trim lily]

hes just like his idol

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-gaimon-gaimon-one-piece-buggy-buggy-one-piece-gif-14815201887449487050

[mighty shell]

lmfao

[dapper tree]

Thanks for adding how the Donquixote pirates were connected to Doflamingo. I didnt know otherwise

[mighty shell]

could've been the mjosgard pirates you never know

[trim lily]

that’s a good theory

mjosgard survived and formed his own crew

[dapper tree]

I mean

Maybe you right

[fallen meteor]

like i was saying before
the two mythical dfs combo would feel better for a villain becuase it would be like
'you cant beat me, i have two mythical dfs!!'
and the someone beats them and its a satisfactory moment
nothing about power levels, just an idea between two 'cheat' fruits vs someone with less

[trim lily]

itd fit for bb

[spice cairn]

Isnt this just going to be Teech

[tranquil blade]

Well the someone with less thing is cool but with Luffy it's been kinda dead since gear 5

[vital heart]

Teech is a Dollar Store Loki

[spice cairn]

What if Teech did the 67 hand motion when he gets the extra fruit

[fallen meteor]

probably but its not two mythicals

at least we think its not

[ashen rose]

Why are you guys calling teach "teech"?

[spice cairn]

I love calling him Teech

Like Leech

[grand flower]

Guy reading a battle shonen: does this feel like something a young teenager would fantasize about to anyone else?

[ashen rose]

feech

[sage temple]

Loki Abilities

• Lightning, Ice, Probably More
• ACoC, CoA, CoO
• Likely the only one that can kill Holy Knights so far other than Joyboy himself.
• Insane AG durability
• Legendary Devil Fruit
• Connection to the Hellfire Serpent
• Likely the Sovereign to meet Poseidon
• Galleila leader buildup

And he gave Luffy, a Yonko, goosebumps from his presence alone

Lmk if I'm missing any

[trim lily]

potential man

[vital heart]

Survived attacks from HK Harald, Rocks.

[ashen rose]

Hell nah

[ashen rose]

Survived dying of blood loss

[fallen meteor]

mythicals at this point are "the rarest" type so the idea of someone having more than one stacked and losing to someone having a "lower grade" df would be cool

[ashen rose]

He's still weakened btw

[sage temple]

2 potential situations out of the 8 = potential man

[fallen meteor]

it still can happen of course but it wont be as cool

[ashen rose]

He's supposed to be recovering from his wounds

[trim lily]

correct

i love saying words

[spice cairn]

What if Ragnir can use Shadow Asgard and he becomes a fucking fat lard squirrel

[vital heart]

Yo guys

Who wants to see Oda's peak art

Green bit

[trim lily]

those are good looking plants

[vital heart]

Notice how the plants are really big?

[ashen rose]

This doesn't look like the mural to me

[vital heart]

I think theres a connection btwn Greenbit and Elbaf

[fallen meteor]

made with the former user of ragnir

[spice cairn]

Theres a connection between Little Garden and Eblaf...

[vital heart]

Ragnir has the ability to make the plants on Greenbit with the attack: VANAHEIM

[trim lily]

im in the blue

enlightened chatter

[sage temple]

Also I forgot about the Harley thing

[ashen rose]

Harley texts?

[fallen meteor]

davidson?

or quinn

[trim lily]

all 3 perhaps

[fallen meteor]

wait

[sage temple]

Possible planetary relations

[vital heart]

Can I be honest?

[fallen meteor]

legoland had that dude on a bike > harley davidson > harley texts

[ashen rose]

I love this image so much bro 💕

[sage temple]

Loki really is a jack of all trades dude has it all

[trim lily]

shoutout to this fish

[vital heart]

Compared to EVERYTHING we've seen in this past 20 chapter flashback....

This group looks like a buncha bums!!!

Loki can probably solo them!

[fallen meteor]

oda has been reading some manwhas

[ashen rose]

He read solo leveling

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/key-and-peele-obama-handshake-gif-14751410

[trim lily]

he really does fit the bill

[ashen rose]

Bro's important

[fallen meteor]

imagine he's been reading manhuas tho

[ashen rose]

He's just happy to be there

[fallen meteor]

loki went out to the sea to find murim and start his cultivation journey

[trim lily]

no mention of chi or martial arts so it cant be

[ashen rose]

Bro barely has time to sleep, you think he can read anything else?

[sage temple]

And Loki has entire glowing eyes

Like dawg

[trim lily]

loki's hair is also too wavy for it, got the length though

[sage temple]

He's just that guy

[ashen rose]

Loki has an actual cool ass design instead of a fuckass black hair and sleek anime high school student

[trim lily]

nah im talking about the generic manhua design

[ashen rose]

I know

[trim lily]

thats for manhwas

[fallen meteor]

whats the name of the middle realm

where the branches and villages are

[sage temple]

I dunno

Sun

[fallen meteor]

sun?

[trim lily]

yeah sun realm

[ashen rose]

Also Loki is a D member

[trim lily]

maybe

[fallen meteor]

loki shows up on the sun realm riding on a horse with this hairdo

[sage temple]

If you're from an island of the D. doesn't that make you a D. automatically

[trim lily]

we dont know what the hell imu meant

could be

[sage temple]

Yeah

[ashen rose]

Yes

[sage temple]

16 year old Loki got Imu so scared she started speaking in tongues

[trim lily]

loki the type of guy to drink the osmanthus soup

[vital heart]

I dont wanna break any rules but you guys know how Deadpool is famous for breaking the 4th wall?

I want to introduce a new OP character who's gag is that they break the 4th wall and talk to the audience during intense scenes.

Could be the MMBF, a Void Century character, etc...

Thoughts?

[sage temple]

Buncha nonesense

Had Imu puffing up too lmao

[ashen rose]

Has to be a joke character

[trim lily]

oh shit we got the sticker for that

[ashen rose]

Otherwise it just breaks the immersion

[sage temple]

Yeah I don't wanna tell you exactly what Deadpool does but let me just tell you what Deadpool does

jp

[ashen rose]

Socrates, you play noita?

[glacial bear]

Imu needs to go see a doctor

[ashen rose]

He killed most of them

[fallen meteor]

Socrates' love for noita barely surpasses his love for Loki

[ashen rose]

Was he here before Loki's reveal?

What was his pfp?

What did he even talk about?

[sage temple]

Yeah

[sage temple]

No I joined a few months after and I had a monkey pfp

[fallen meteor]

a regular monkey?

[ashen rose]

Play terraria calamity next, it's peak trust me

[ashen rose]

Lol, same

Not the monkey pfp part

Just the joining in after Loki was revealed

[sage temple]

I started glazing Loki once we saw enough from him around like April

[sage temple]

Is there a difference between that and normal terraria

[ashen rose]

Calamity is a mod

[sage temple]

Oh alr

[ashen rose]

The most popular content mod that is

Do you have Tmodloader?

[fallen meteor]

maybe its time for another terraria playtrough...

kinda crazy no other game has managed to replicate what first time terraria did

[sage temple]

Nah I've never played terraria b4

[ashen rose]

Bruh, play it, it's difficult to get past the earliest part but it's really good

[ashen rose]

I've never been able to go back to playing terraria after calamity

[sage temple]

Alr I'll start it I hope streamrip lets me add mods

[ashen rose]

Installed some QoL mods and this game became ten times better

[ashen rose]

You pirated it, damn, I guess you can't then

[fallen meteor]

isnt terraria like - 5$

like they pay you to get it

[sage temple]

I dunno pirating is just easier

[fallen meteor]

still a great price
i'd pay like 300 for terraria easily

[ashen rose]

Yeah but you're missing out on a lot of stuff

[sage temple]

Is the mod that good

[ashen rose]

Updates, modding scene (which is fucking insane), and other stuff

[ashen rose]

Bro, the mod has music

Search up calamity mod OST and you'll find some BANGERS

[fallen meteor]

calamity is kinda crazy

[ashen rose]

It's basically free DLC

[fallen meteor]

people crying on yt reacting to calamity ost is such a funny thing

[ashen rose]

DM DOKURO THE GOAT

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-yeah-right-ishowspeed-yeah-ishowspeed-right-ishowspeed-stream-gif-2870397197282141259

[fallen meteor]

i forgot
calamity adds a class, right?

[ashen rose]

"it's a pixel game where you can craft a toilet out of a legendary sword, why does the music HAVE LYRICS??"

[sage temple]

Actually crying?

[ashen rose]

Yep, rogue

[fallen meteor]

yeah its very good

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-darren-watkins-speed-meme-speed-pray-gif-17944518743646793301

[fallen meteor]

the last time i was trying to play i had a mod that added bard and it was so confusing

the drops clashed and shit got buggy

[ashen rose]

What mixing mods does to a mf

[sage temple]

Oh alr bc my game rotation so far has been noita, pixel cup soccer, simplerockets 2, and sfs

[ashen rose]

Terraria will be the game you'll get addicted to

[tranquil blade]

I remember laughing reading the youtube description he put for one of the songs he made

I think it was the theme for one of the biomes

[ashen rose]

The sulphur ocean ones

CD music also does this

[tranquil blade]

Yess that one

[ashen rose]

Just look up his boss rush videos, Trial of the Insane especially

[tranquil blade]

I was reading it thinking "this is just too relatable"

I kinda miss calamity

It was fun

[ashen rose]

The one with providence and plaguebringer Goliath are my favorite ones because yeah, summer makes me melt too

[ashen rose]

It still kinda is

There's gonna be an update in February probably

[fallen meteor]

i need to stop thinking about doing another playtrough

i dont have the time...

[tranquil blade]

I havent played terraria in like 4 years

[ashen rose]

You're talking to us rn bro, you have time

[fallen meteor]

but this time will soon die when the wow prepatch goes live

[ashen rose]

Go play it, a lot has changed

[ashen rose]

World of Warcraft?

[fallen meteor]

ye

[tranquil blade]

I could play singleplayer, i dont think anyone i played with back then has the time for multiplayer now though

[sage temple]

Ngl I've had more fun playing roblox than any steam game

[fallen meteor]

you cant say something like this here it undermines the loki agenda

[sage temple]

It does?

[fallen meteor]

i'm not even joking

[sage temple]

How does it

[dapper tree]

he does that enough himself

already

[sage temple]

God forbid I be wrong about things

[fallen meteor]

if the top loki guy reveals he's like 14 years old it kills the momentum

[sage temple]

Oh I see

[dapper tree]

too late

[sage temple]

Why is there an age cap on roblox players

[dense haven]

guys im new to one piece can somebody explain to me why is brook fighting loki

[fallen meteor]

thats domi reverse brook

hope that helps

[sage temple]

Pasta take ur pills bro

[dapper tree]

how are you using the jokes I used on meek a couple hjours ago back to me

[tranquil blade]

the ace novels explain this

[sage temple]

Ever heard of artistic inspiration

[dapper tree]

this is just stealing and plagiarism

[sage temple]

Do I need to cite you

[fallen meteor]

call your lawyers

[dapper tree]

the data books do too

[dapper tree]

I'm on it

[tranquil blade]

What if Oda just made the ace novels canon one day

[dapper tree]

the biggest ace upscale

[tranquil blade]

He just tells us "yeah it's canon and Ace also stalemated Loki offscreen"

[fallen meteor]

in the middle of a random ch we get a full white page with 'the ace novels are canon now' and it resumes

[dapper tree]

clears most YCs at that point

Ace could have met loki

[tranquil blade]

I actually dont know what happens in the novels so idk why it makes him stronger

[dapper tree]

it cans till happen

[sage temple]

Ace def could

[tidal ice]

thank god no ace in loki flashback

[dapper tree]

he gets both haki types

[fallen meteor]

ace and yamato driking scene and the camera pans a bit to the side and Loki is there too

[dapper tree]

true facts

ace tied with loki and yamato

[sage temple]

Oda saying Shanks needed Whitebeard, Dragon, and all of their collective crewmates to beat Loki and capture him can still happen

[tranquil blade]

Does that upscale him or does that just justify his known strength more

[spice cairn]

Loki is in the bushes writing down the gossip

Yamato feels like hes being watched but Ace brushes it off

[dapper tree]

it upscales since he's as strong as he is now without it

[fallen meteor]

he sent ragnir to spy

[tranquil blade]

It pans over but he's too big to fit in the panel so it's just his shoe

[dapper tree]

not how that works'

[spice cairn]

Hes dressed as one of those trees in those plays

So thats his disguise

[sage temple]

Why not

[fallen meteor]

the background here is actually Loki's eye

[dapper tree]

TRUE

he is big

[sage temple]

Ok so Loki is the largest being in the verse

Sick

[dapper tree]

fattest*

[tranquil blade]

Are all instances of the moon Enel upscale because he rules the moon

[sage temple]

How is that a correction

It doesn't contradict what I said

[dapper tree]

It's simple

[sage temple]

You wanna elaborate on that or

[spice cairn]

They should've kissed under the moonlight

[glacial bear]

What if Loki met Ace

[dapper tree]

If I eleborated

[fallen meteor]

yeah every time the moon appears it means Enel was watching the scene

[dapper tree]

It wouldn't be simple

[fallen meteor]

what if luffy found a mysterious rock

[sage temple]

Not how that works

[dapper tree]

he already did

[dapper tree]

but it is tho

[glacial bear]

Rocks D. Xebec

[sage temple]

Is it rly

[dapper tree]

yes

[sage temple]

Oh ok thanks for clearing that up

[dapper tree]

anytime

[teal ivy]

Could king turn ally if he learns that Luffy is joyboy?

[dapper tree]

HUh

but

[sage temple]

Oh that reminds me King's flame might be able to be forcefully put out by Loki since he did it with the Draugr

[dapper tree]

Luffy just auto gets allies

a passive ability

[teal ivy]

Just a thought I had as I’m watching the king v zoro fight

[dapper tree]

yes because that dragur was also a lunarian, i could tell because of his skin and hair

it's the same thing

how could I not tell

[teal ivy]

There’s another Lunarian?? Spoilers don’t bother me much.

[dapper tree]

yes

it was a giant skeleton with no skin or hair

[teal ivy]

But you just said that you knew it was a lunarian because of his skin and hair color

[dapper tree]

That's the joke

[teal ivy]

Ah

[dapper tree]

he made a comaprison of two things that aren't even close to the same

and him saying they were

[teal ivy]

Like risotto without the rice?

[sage temple]

Is it ever said that lunarian flames can't be turned off externally and that it's any different of a case

[dapper tree]

all fire same fire

[patent fable]

The one piece is real!!!

[grand flower]

I wonder about this a lot

[tranquil blade]

With Kaido gone probably

[dapper tree]

joining the guy who killed my boss is peak

[frail cradle]

Gaban the Wise

What is Gaban on

Goatban

[torn kite]

I always forget this, but the straw hats have been beefing with Kaido for like a long time like right after Fishman Island they started beefing with him so pretty much all of post time skip

[tranquil blade]

Yeah but like Kaido said Joyboy would be the one to beat him and he lost so

[dapper tree]

King can replace Zoro on the crew

[grand flower]

Yeah

From FMI to WCI, it’s set up for Supernova vs Kaido and BM

Each arc is about escalating the conflict with both

[tranquil blade]

but Zoro and King are both stupid but Zoro is the stronger stupid person

So King can kick rocks

[grand flower]

REINCARNATED

I WAS STAR GAZIN

[fallen meteor]

avery with a new rocks is alive theory

[grand flower]

He may be

Hey may be…

[final trench]

Yea king will ally with luffy

He’s lunarian so he probably knows what gear 5 looks like, if he see dat he’ll know immediately

[sage temple]

Exactly which is why it's likely Loki can do the same with Lunarians

Oh were u joking

Literally what is the difference between the two

We know dream demon elements act as normal ones so its not like Kilingham's fire is false

[ionic palm]

honestly, what Im curious about is if there's some secret village of surviving Lunarians somewhere in the OP world

Elbaph's Heaven Realm could be a perfect spot considering its so high up and is almost inaccessible seemingly through normal means, helps that the WG has been kept out of the island for almost 15 years out of fear ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sage temple]

The WG doesn't seem to have even attempted to go to the island after Loki killing one of the Holy Knights

Imu is scared more will die

[grand flower]

That’s facts

[mighty quarry]

Even the Roger pirates merely drove them off, never killed any

Imu shook

[grand flower]

Ragnir built different

[sage temple]

Yeah Loki managed to scare Imu at 16

[last halo]

Socrates I'm glad you are having this moment

You earned it

[mighty quarry]

If the cost of losing the covenant is so high

There's gotta be a difference in control granted via a covenant vs control granted with Domi Reversi

Since losing a DR soldier does nothing to Imu

[vital heart]

this is not true lol

[keen quiver]

Dint Sommers talk about harald's grave

[sage temple]

Maybe once or twice and got stopped by Muginn

[vital heart]

They've sent many CP agents to Elbaf. They've always just gotten kidnapped by Roads crow

Who the FUCK is Mugin

[sage temple]

I am most definitely enjoying this

[sage temple]

Strange how the regular chatters aren't here today

[sage temple]

Oh CP I see

Yeah Mu said he wouldn't send more covenant-powered people to Elbaph

[sage temple]

Muginn is Road's crow

[mighty quarry]

He only sent the 3 God's knights when he knew that Loki is chained up and Shanks is away from Elbaf

Sneaky mans

[sage temple]

I think that was more of a coincidence personally

Since the Egghead stuff just happened Imu has a lot more urgency to do stuff

After that broadcast I think it was just lucky timing that the single person who can kill the HKs so far is imprisoned

[keen quiver]

Best part of the chap for me ngl

[mighty quarry]

Can't be. Shamrock went straight to Loki didn't he

[sage temple]

Yeah, but Loki was imprisoned for 6 years and Shanks has been shown a long way from Elbaph during Loki's imprisonment

So if Imu really wanted to send HKs because Shanks wasn't there and Loki was imprisoned he would've done it a lot earlier

But since the entire world is now aware of the impending doom and the final war is just on the horizon, Imu is given the reason to go ahead and send the knights to Elbaph

[grand flower]

Damn I’m realizing they wanted to see if Loki would take the same deal as Harald

[sage temple]

That's so dumb tho I don't get it

Is Imu just rambling here

[grand flower]

Wym

[sage temple]

What is the point of going on a monologue about never trusting an Elbaphian again because they can't be trusted and then inviting the child of that same traitor giant to the inner circle 14 years after

[grand flower]

@sage temple what do you think Lokis fruit is now btw

[sage temple]

I think it's a dragon still

But the howling sound Loki made in DF form makes it more likely to be a canine

[hoary steppe]

A flying dog?

[sage temple]

Loki didn't say he could fly

He said he would jump according to tcb

[hoary steppe]

Oh

But his eye

Its serpent for sure

[sage temple]

Yeah that's the most likely thing it could be

[mighty quarry]

I bet Imu is just huffing and puffing and coping in those lines

it makes sense, after receiving such a heavy shock

[sage temple]

Yeah

Loki was the first time they've been damaged in ~800 years

[hoary steppe]

Doubt tbh

There are legendary figures backthen too

[sage temple]

It doesn't really seem like anyone else has that potential

[mighty quarry]

Ryuma could have

[sage temple]

Legendary figures that have encountered the WG?

[hoary steppe]

Yeh

[mighty quarry]

they did send people to wano during Ryuma's time

[sage temple]

Wano is a pretty secluded nation though

[hoary steppe]

Like they fear wano for some reason

[sage temple]

The WG?

[mighty quarry]

yeah

and he drove them all back

we dont know who they sent

[hoary steppe]

Gorosei might’ve change overtime

[mighty quarry]

WG forces, God knights or just plain marines

but Ryuma instilled as much fear as Elbaf into them

single handedly

[tough igloo]

with how much wano citizens glaze Ryuma i assume they sent some heavy hitters

[grand flower]

This is insane glaze

[tough igloo]

the “Dragon” that Ryuma killed could’ve been a gorosei transformation

[hoary steppe]

He was called a god

[grand flower]

Roger and Garp had Rocks on death saving rolls

[hoary steppe]

By sum

[grand flower]

Mark my words

Zoro forges a black blade in Elbaph

[hoary steppe]

Who did he fight

[grand flower]

At least one

[grand flower]

Somebody who bouta get fucked up

I know that much

[hoary steppe]

[grand flower]

Ya feel me

Zoro told king

“I’ll carve the memory of me into you”

Then took his wing off

Zoro is actually insane

[mighty quarry]

@sage temple this line makes me think this isnt the first time this has happened

and if anyone, I'd put my money on Ryuma during these 800 years

[tough igloo]

wouldn’t be surprised if Imu experienced that before with Joyboy Davy Jones Ryuma

[mighty roost]

def happened with joyboy and davy

[tough igloo]

lmao

[hoary steppe]

Vinsmoke who

[mighty roost]

wow

[hoary steppe]

😭

[grand flower]

You ain’t lied

[sage temple]

Yeah, the first time it happened was probably when Joyboy was alive

[grand flower]

Imu is tweaking out

Just like Haki knot

[hoary steppe]

Honestly i can’t think of a stronger opponent for zoro xcept shiryu and gandhi

[grand flower]

He bouta spazz ans kill somebody for no reason

[tough igloo]

this ain’t gonna be revealed til the end of the arc huh Oda 🤦🏾‍♂️😂

[grand flower]

Shiryu bouta be nice with that sword

[mighty quarry]

joyboy and davy from before 800 years yeah

[hoary steppe]

Nvm we still got mihawk

[grand flower]

I think Shiryu comes after Mihawk

[mighty quarry]

I'm just trying to think of the candidates DURNIG these 800 years who could've done the same

[grand flower]

Zoro is gonna defend his championship

[tough igloo]

really only Joyboy & Davy Jones from back then during that time

[hoary steppe]

Mihawk lost is just peak

[sage temple]

Yeah so that doesn't really indicate it happening between 800 years and 14 years ago

[sage temple]

Yeah Ryuma could've done it

I'd say it's more of a coin toss if he did or not though

[grand flower]

Dw

[mighty quarry]

yeah we dont really know WHO they sent to Wano

[sage temple]

Especially since Ryuma is dead and the WG still doesn't come to Wano

[grand flower]

Mihawk is gonna beat Shamrock in the final war

I’m deadass

[hoary steppe]

Loki gonna eat shamrock ass

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-what-wait-what-huh-playboi-carti-gif-17221740

[mighty roost]

https://tenor.com/view/rayleigh-one-piece-freaky-cry-gif-2673645830423664815

[grand flower]

Surely you didn’t mean

[sage temple]

Since Ryuma is famously dead and the WG still doesn't come to Wano, it doesn't really mean Ryuma enstilled the same fear into Imu that Loki did

[hoary steppe]

NO 😭

[grand flower]

Listen to me right now

Mihawk is gonna lose to Zoro

[hoary steppe]

Yep

[grand flower]

He’s gonna genuinely bond with buggy and crocodile

[mighty roost]

ofc

[grand flower]

He’ll be like ya know what

I feel the juice again

I got something to chase

[hoary steppe]

Sheesh

[grand flower]

For tje first time in a long time Mihawk isn’t champion

[mighty quarry]

nah Sengoku or Akainu directly implied the WG dont go to Wano because of those "samurai", ever since Ryuma

[grand flower]

He’s a contender abain

[mighty roost]

stops using black paint

[tough igloo]

then immediately gets stabbed in the back and killed by S Hawk

[grand flower]

Mihawk mollywhops the fuck outta Shamrock

Says

“I know at least two swordsman who surpass you” or something corny

He’s a Zoro character after all

[hoary steppe]

[mighty roost]

zoro upscale?

[grand flower]

It’s like bootleg Mihawk vs Shanks

[olive sigil]

By S Hank S

[grand flower]

Idk what S-Hawk is gon do

[hoary steppe]

Also

[grand flower]

Tbh

[tough igloo]

BBP or York will find a way to age them up faster

[grand flower]

I got Garp vs Garling

Who is left

[hoary steppe]

We know that nashjuro recognize shishui

[olive sigil]

I’m curious what baby shark is going to do

[mighty roost]

dragon vs garling

[grand flower]

Dragon vs Imu

[hoary steppe]

What

[mighty roost]

revolutionaries vs HK's

[hoary steppe]

Thats hella impossible

[grand flower]

Exactly

[tough igloo]

Dragon the sacrificial opponent for Imu 😥

[grand flower]

Dragon vs Imu
Revos vs Elders and HKs

[olive sigil]

I got Garp and Kong

[grand flower]

Naw

Dragon beats Imu

Blackbeard swoops in

[mighty roost]

ehh

[grand flower]

Steals imus powers

[hoary steppe]

Kong died

[tough igloo]

lmao

[mighty roost]

luffy exists

[grand flower]

To take down Blackbeard

[olive sigil]

He’s not real

[grand flower]

Lolol

[tough igloo]

lmao dragon beats imu .. that’s the first time i’ve heard that one

[mighty roost]

nah trust me this all a big parallel from 800 yrs ago

[olive sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/nico-robin-nami-one-piece-robin-one-piece-nami-wano-gif-25481044

[hoary steppe]

Shiryu might be weak idk

[mighty roost]

luffy joyboy
blackbeard xebec

etc

[hoary steppe]

Zoro ryuma

[olive sigil]

Franky Emmett

[hoary steppe]

PEAK

[mighty roost]

sanji vinsmoke romeo

[hoary steppe]

STOP WITH ROMEO

[mighty roost]

also ryuma not from void century

[grand flower]

We’ve talked about it I think

But yeah

Think about this

When egghead ended

[olive sigil]

Chopper will awaken and become permanently a giant monster point

[grand flower]

Who was thinking about Imu ans the flooding and Marijoa and the ancient weapons

[olive sigil]

Chopper and zunesha

[mighty roost]

noo 😢

[hoary steppe]

Dang

So one piece is a time loop

[mighty roost]

parallel piece

[grand flower]

Time loop you say

Interesting

[hoary steppe]

Im starting to see your vision

[grand flower]

Yall know bout bootstrap paradoxes?

[tough igloo]

Ive heard of Dragon helping in a group effort in taking down Imu but just. him beating Imu first alone is a new one

[grand flower]

Not alone I don’t think

Luffy will probably hurt Imu

[hoary steppe]

Naw

[grand flower]

I see a monkey family beat down on Imu tbh

[olive sigil]

Wait wait wait

[tough igloo]

garp too ?

[olive sigil]

If zunesha is the parallel to chopper

And chopper has the human fruit

[fallen meteor]

But not luffy garp and dragon
Just another monkey family

[hoary steppe]

And shirahoshi parallel to poseidon

[olive sigil]

Maybe the whole mink tribe is the awakening of the first human human fruit user

[grand flower]

It’s a stable time loop

You can look it up on TV tropes

You’ve probably seen something that has it

[hoary steppe]

[grand flower]

But this is Luffy and Joy Boy

[olive sigil]

Am I cooking?

[hoary steppe]

Its infinite

[hoary steppe]

Slow cook

[grand flower]

Yes but no it does progress forward once Luffy returns to the present

[hoary steppe]

Hmmm

Right

[olive sigil]

Awakenings in general tend to leave permanent marks on an island. So the awakened human fruit was responsible for turning animals into minks and that’s how they came to existence

[grand flower]

Point A happens

Point B happens

Point C is time travel to Point A, and the events of Point A happen as we already know it/how it always happened

Luffy returns from Point A to Point D

And the story keeps going to Point E then ends

E for Ending

[hoary steppe]

What if its not fruit.. but ancient kingdom just created a new race

[mighty roost]

https://x.com/Toadgashi/status/2012273591048454620?s=20

Toad||🌊 (@Toadgashi)

#ONEPIECE1171

X · Jan 16, 2026, 9:19 PM

[grand flower]

@hoary steppe

[olive sigil]

But what about the chopper parallels?

[hoary steppe]

I see here

[mighty roost]

if this is true then doesnt that mean they will lose again

[grand flower]

No

Luffy didnt “lose”

When Joy Boy “lost,” that was Luffy returning to the present

[hoary steppe]

So the cycle ends when lufy skips the C point

[mighty roost]

wow

[grand flower]

No the cycle just spits him back out into the present

And Luffy finishes the job now

[hoary steppe]

Ah right no parallel found

[grand flower]

He goes after the OP

Dragon stops Imu

Blackbeard steals Imus powers

[hoary steppe]

[grand flower]

We learn Imu’s personality was absorbed by the myth zoan awakening

[hoary steppe]

HM

[grand flower]

Blackbeard is able to keep his personality

He’s even more dangerous with the power

Luffy stood him

[tough igloo]

lol do we get the VC flashback before or after this happens

[grand flower]

Stops*

Knocks him into the ocean

Claims the One Piece

Becomes Pirate King

Story ends out with him sailing into his dream or whatever the hell he wants to do

[hoary steppe]

Then laugh

[grand flower]

Luffy is always gonna laugh last and loudest

4 Ls makes the biggest W

[hoary steppe]

Lost

[grand flower]

That’s how I think Op is gonna okay out fr fr

Play out*

[sage temple]

Loki might be a similar dragon to the one Ryuma killed

[tough igloo]

lol where are the marines by this point .. already left the CDs ?

[hoary steppe]

I mean every dragon had horn no?

[sage temple]

Yeah Loki would just have 2

His DF form shows 2

[hoary steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/giant-giant-snake-snake-god-of-war-is-angered-gif-26759459

[olive sigil]

Who’s the cow on the left?

[sage temple]

That's what my shadow looks like

[hoary steppe]

*squirrel

[olive sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/chasing-tree-dog-squirrel-hyped-gif-13854298

[sage temple]

Loki does look like some typa dog though ngl

I would be fully convinced but the ears aren't shown

[hoary steppe]

So the drama queen is shanks

[grand flower]

Protecting people for the most part

Garp vs Garling

Sabo vs Akainu

Smoker vs Crocodile probably

[sage temple]

Is this drawn over a jjk scene

[spice cairn]

Is it?

I just seen the trend on every art platform im on lmao

[cosmic hamlet]

@hazy turret

[sage temple]

Yeah it is they make more and put the title as it I think

[cosmic hamlet]

@proud pivot

[grand flower]

Wyd bruh

[spice cairn]

I just thought it was cute

[grand flower]

It is

[spice cairn]

Like hes just pushing away is dumb father because hes coddling him into being a spoiled cunt

[small ember]

Damn so Ragnir can control lightning and ice???

[hoary steppe]

And loki

[small ember]

Also??? Elbaf D clan??

[hoary steppe]

[small ember]

Assuming they helped the d clan/ancient kingdom against the early WG kingdoms

[olive sigil]

Ragnir can control Loki?

[hoary steppe]

Wano being D clan affiliated is not surprising later

[hoary steppe]

It will be 🐿️

[mighty quarry]

Wano artisans are the ones who made the poneglyphs

[small ember]

Dying to see that fruit

[mighty quarry]

They're the only ones who can shape seastone

[small ember]

Yeah, it makes sense why they don’t like either of them. Esp elbaf

[mighty quarry]

Poneglyphs was made presumably by order of Nerfertari D Lily

Easy Wano D connection

[small ember]

Watch every single elbaf member be of the d clan lol

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/the-chosen-jesus-disappointed-shake-head-no-gif-18488923

[hoary steppe]

Just see !

[placid basin]

why Luffy so skinny unlike Zoro Sanji or shanks

[hoary steppe]

If your hammer can talk, its over

[olive sigil]

Once they reveal their patronymic names

[small ember]

Even John D. Giant

[sage temple]

Just see what

[hoary steppe]

Squirrel speak

[sage temple]

Oh yeah it can probably talk

[small ember]

Loki D. Haraldson

[mighty quarry]

Big D. Jarul

[small ember]

Literal patronymic name

[hoary steppe]

WHY ITS BIG D

[mighty quarry]

Ask Jarul, man

[hoary steppe]

😭

Oh

Wait

Elbaf being d clan… this could happen because Galley La helps to create ancient weapon

Aka pluton

[grand flower]

Theres video proof

[hoary steppe]

Hell naw 💀

[olive sigil]

It’s under the beard

[ruby moat]

Hajr D. Udin

[sage temple]

Is that even how you spell it

[placid basin]

Haral D

[sage temple]

Elbaph's royal name is probably so tuff

[mighty quarry]

I'd love to have seen Loki's overseas adventures after the patricide

Or even the budding romance he and Lola had?

[unique lagoon]

8 years to avenge herald
dint reach redline
meanwhile luffy

[hot cairn]

what does that mean

[sage temple]

All of that depends on if one has a navigator and one doesn't

[grand flower]

Great chapter

[sage temple]

Should be comparing Loki's servants and Nami

[hot cairn]

Drake reference from Sharon

[dense rapids]

Most Useless D

[ruby moat]

oda cooking something up

[sage temple]

I bet that's the case with Ussop too

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

[hot cairn]

what did you think of the chapter

[ruby moat]

is imu related to zoro?

[sage temple]

Damn Loki at 16 is making Imu huff like Zoro

[sage temple]

I liked how it closed off the flashback and it welcomed us back into the present just fine honestly. As a result of this chapter it's likely to me that Loki is the only one other than Joyboy himself that can kill a regen user

[unique lagoon]

same argument
8 years and cant find a navigator

guess they are really rare now

[hot cairn]

I see

[sage temple]

Is finding a navigator a feat or something I don't get it. When princes of Elbaph sail this is usually who they bring with them

I guess it's bait but I'm not really worried about how well Loki can find a navigator compared to everyone else

[dense rapids]

Usopp and Loki will be the greatest duo in One Piece

[unique lagoon]

no idea what you are on about
if loki really wanted to he could have found a navigator

[sage temple]

I don't get what you're on about what is the point of the argument

You're acting like him not finding a navigator in 8 years means anything

[unique lagoon]

why dint he reach redline
you said maybe its a navigator issue
and im saying he had 8 years to find one

[sage temple]

Yeah he did

[dense rapids]

Ngl one of the guards was probably a navigator

You can’t navigate the new world without one

[sage temple]

Yeah that's probably how that works

[dense rapids]

Unless Loki got lost and was stuck on a island for 8 years

[sage temple]

So it's just a navigator issue

[sage temple]

Well the giants say Loki was rampaging at sea so I doubt it

Unless "sea" means 1 island

[unique lagoon]

even if one of the guards was a navigator
loki must be stupid if he dint notice for 8 years that its not a good one

[sage temple]

This is such a non issue bruh

[thick mango]

Like loki raided the same poor island for 8 years straight? Rough

[unique lagoon]

dosent matter if its a big issue or not
8 years is a long time

[sage temple]

Yeah Loki had a personal beef with 1 specific island for almost a decade 😭

[sage temple]

Not to him actually

[unique lagoon]

thats irrelevant

[sage temple]

You said 8 years is a long time

The person experiencing these 8 years would be Loki

[unique lagoon]

yeah i mean the whole 8 years is nothing for a giant bit

[sage temple]

Giants don't see 100 years as anything let alone 8

[thick mango]

Yeah their lifetime doesn't make them sail or raid places any slower. It Is a long time in terms of the amount of stuff that can fit in 8 years

[sage temple]

You're saying "Loki must be stupid if he didn't notice for 8 years"

[unique lagoon]

if his navigator was ass yes

[sage temple]

He percieves time in a way that makes 8 years seem shorter

[grand flower]

That line is so funny to me csuse it’s so booty butt ass

[sage temple]

I guess his navigator was ass then lmao

[unique lagoon]

we wont be having this convo if oda just showed the 8 years
but people was like nah thats not important bruh

[sage temple]

Still isn't really an issue Idk what you're getting at

[near scroll]

im onto smth trust

[sage temple]

Yeah it's either paralleling that or Harald himself jumping to attack at sea

[thick mango]

I figure he was just doing generic pirate shit especially oriented towards the wg. It had to be something for shanks to go out and get him

[sage temple]

Yeah I guess

[sage temple]

Also the two sun tattoos might mean something

[unique lagoon]

if im going to make an excuse for loki not reaching redline
it be simply he got distracted later on
meeting lola
encountering the yonkos
running from marines
other pirates

[ruby moat]

https://tenor.com/view/usopp-laughing-lol-self-confidence-confident-gif-16667283

[thick mango]

He could have been pursuing intermediate anti wg goals other than charging into matiejoa

[ruby moat]

Luffy, Usopp, Loki

the big three

[mighty roost]

is this real

[ruby moat]

yea

[mighty roost]

oh hell nah

[sage temple]

[unique lagoon]

thats garling foreshadowing

[vital heart]

Aloha!

[sage temple]

Or looking for the Galleila giants

[mighty roost]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-spiderman-meme-miles-morales-gif-6254393350946967855

[unique lagoon]

cool idea but who told him about them being captured

[sage temple]

Looking for the galleila is a fine reason for him not being able to get to the red line in 8 years. Especially since the location of the giants are kept secret

[vital heart]

He didnt encounter the yonko.

1. He didnt encounter Shanks til 6 years ago
2. He didnt encounter Kaido otherwise Loki wouldve been in that Ch1001 panel of Kaido's top 5 strongest pirates
3. He didnt encounter Big Mom otherwise he wouldve married to Lola
4. He didnt encounter WB - no reason why

[sage temple]

His Idol

?

[unique lagoon]

offscreen convo sure

[vital heart]

Jarul probably

Jarul or Rocks couldve both equally likely have told Loki about the Galleila

[unique lagoon]

the 3rd one dont make sense
Dint linlin start the whole plan to marry them

[vital heart]

Ok

[sage temple]

Yeah 3rd one doesn't make sense

[vital heart]

Well we can agree Loki never ran into Kaido

Ok?

[sage temple]

Ok

[unique lagoon]

ngl i forgot that first panel

[sage temple]

Yeah I'm sure you did

[vital heart]

If Loki ran into Kaido, you shouldve been able to replace Oden with Loki.

[vital heart]

Because Loki can mid diff Kaido if he has Ragnir, im ngl

[sage temple]

Are you just trying to glaze Loki over Kaido

The question is if Loki met a Yonko or not

[vital heart]

Prime Loki > Prime Kaido imo

yea

[vital heart]

Questions are made to be changed

[unique lagoon]

i find it hard to believe for 8 years none of the yonko took notice of loki

well big mom did

• gaban said no one was able to stop him

[sage temple]

Whitebeard could have

Jinbe has never been on Elbaph before yet he had an idea of who Loki was

[vital heart]

Yeah so

Kaido hasnt

I dont know how

WB sure

Shanks no

[unique lagoon]

kaido was already in wano in this 8 years ye?

[vital heart]

bruh

he beeen in wano for 30 years or sm thnow

[unique lagoon]

yeah that guy was just sitting there

hard to reach i guess

[sage temple]

Yeah but Loki could've encountered WB or Big Mom

So him encountering a Yonko isn't ruled out

[trim lily]

its safe to say he encountered big mom

[thick mango]

Has he been prepping for his war all 30 years? Or what happened that ignited his desire to begin a specific plan for a big war

[vital heart]

I'm surprised Loki never tried to go to Wano

Why didnt he just liberate Wano

As Nika

[trim lily]

why would he lol

wait so true

[vital heart]

Because he wants to be Nika

[trim lily]

loki L

[vital heart]

It's Nika's destiny to free Wano, no?

Or was it Joyboy

[unique lagoon]

[golden valley]

Loki dont know the lore

[unique lagoon]

nah it was joyboy

[sage temple]

[unique lagoon]

wanonians dint know what "nika" is

[sage temple]

Nika?

[thick mango]

Wano is isolationist this isn't common knowledge

[sage temple]

Exactly lol

Loki not going to Wano makes sense

[unique lagoon]

funny cuz these islands switch between only knowing nika or only knowing joyboy

[sage temple]

Also it's pretty likely he spent his time at sea searching for the Galleila giants

[golden valley]

Wano —> Joyboy
Elbaf —> Nika

[unique lagoon]

roger / oden is only joyboy also

FMI only joyboy

[thick mango]

If we're close to the end of new world and giants are in punk hazard it would take a long time to randomly get there

[unique lagoon]

saturn calls him nika
imu calls him joyboy

oda cant really decide that bum

[thick mango]

Idk how many hints there at to go on but punk hazard is one of the last places I'd check in new world for gallela

[sage temple]

Punk Hazard was almost right after the Red Line though right

[thick mango]

Yeah exactly it's far if elbaf is near the end

[sage temple]

They could just pass through Punk Hazard on their way to Mary Geoise

[sage temple]

Well it seems likely that the SHs will make it to Mary Geoise some time soon since that's where Imu is

[thick mango]

But they don't know the gallila are there. They'd have to search. And it would take a long time for a search to end up at punk hazard

[torn osprey]

That tracks because Elbaf got a 3K year old research facility

[thick mango]

Oh I'm talking loki pirate days not the future

[vital heart]

Correct me if I'm wrong. 14 years ago, I believe PH was a relatively normal "summer" island owned by VP and MADS (i dont think they dissolved yet?). Is this true?

[thick mango]

I dunno when ceasers thing was

[trim lily]

i was just gonna mention this

[sage temple]

Oh ok

[trim lily]

they cant be frozen in punk hazard because PH wasnt frozen until recently

[unique lagoon]

i dont think the 100 giant warriors was frozen straight up

they where captured first chained up i assume

then got frozen

[trim lily]

yeah but the freezing was in the last two years

[vital heart]

100%

[trim lily]

so it cant be punk hazard

[vital heart]

no

[unique lagoon]

some of em had prisoners outfit some dont also
which is odd

[vital heart]

??

[vital heart]

no???

[trim lily]

im talking about punk hazard

[thick mango]

Well they could have been prisoners there before being frozen

[vital heart]

oh

ohhh

oh

[unique lagoon]

also i doubt the 100 all got captured at the same time

[thick mango]

We know gov does giant research

[ivory sonnet]

Who would had thought Punk hazard would become this relevant

[trim lily]

jarul mentions them being frozen like 14-20 years ago

[ivory sonnet]

also pretty sure Ceaser was aware of them and used their blood for making numbers for Kaido

[vital heart]

bro this scene is set like 56 yrs ago

[trim lily]

oh yeah it is

same thing

[unique lagoon]

you got this guy wearing a regular outfit while the others had prisoner fit

[sage temple]

Jarul doesn't mention a number here though

[vital heart]

LOL

[trim lily]

ok nevermind the freezing was unrelated to kuzan

the giants got frozen indoors in the lab

[unique lagoon]

do you see zunesha face here? am i going crazy

[vital heart]

i see it