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That’s a stupid rebuttal

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But whatever

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you do know it's a bit right

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Why is it a stupid rebuttal

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this gives the vibes of piratefolk

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I think ancient giants predate even imu from his dialog

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Ok

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It even includes transphobia in the meme. See? Lol

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You can sniff these people out from people who just didn’t like what Oda did with Yamato so easily

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I’m here trying to discuss their character nuances and this dude says “clearly this person needs to stop being what their character is designed for”

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self projecting

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if they’re ancient even to giants then they must be really ancient

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Give me a break

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how do u know im not trans

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Where’s the transphobia?

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guys be self projecting sometimes

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I've said stuff like this but its still dont have command. I am untouchable

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😔

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The fact ragnir is so unknown even to giants with 300+ year lifespans is kinda sus. Makes me think ragnir + Ancient giants might be first world and imu comes from second world

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I would have to reread Wano, but Yamato's personality is heavily influenced by Oden to the point it feels like a detriment.

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If a major portion of your opinion of a character comes from memes that are 80% LE BIG BOOBEES “he?! 💀” you don’t have an opinion, you’re just reacting to shit like an animal

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Yamato was always meant to be wanos protector no matter what. That's literally her only job

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by making the character another character

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but its not the be all end all

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And the fact that nobody else could do it. As they stated kaido being gone leaves a huge power vacuum

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Yamato being a rug pull at the end of Wano rubbed a lot of people the wrong way, me being one of them. It was a strange bait and switch. Supposedly, I've heard if you reread, the fact they won't join is more apprarent.

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yamato and oden arent real, why would i refer to them as if they were human beings not characters

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I’m always right

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The nose knows baby

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Lots of crazy arguments being thrown around here lmao

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those who nose 👃

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Yall are wild

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?

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characterwise

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Loki and Yamato seem to be very different characters

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Loki has been referenced since pre timeskip

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Yamato was referenced in act 1

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I guess they both look up to someone? But hell Luffy looks up to Shanks.

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Not comparable at all imo

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The initial point that started all this was that Yamato and Loki shared some character beats and that they would probably be bros if they met

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That’s the only point that was being made

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they have similar traits/story beats but the way they go about them are different

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Yamato’s idea about freedom is linked to being Oden, you’re making a non sequitur and then making a whole new deal out of thin air

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Yamato isn't objectively badly written, lol

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Nobody was trying to say they’re the same character except the bleach pfp who used it to say “no actually they are and Yamato SUCKS”

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Poor boy has been hurt so often

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Yeah I don’t like Yamato but I think he’s like…fine

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you can't really say anything is truly objectively bad when it comes to writing, since it's all art.

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One of the characters of all time to me

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I also dont care about yamato that much

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but who knows

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I like Yamato, but they could've been more writing-wise for me. I mostly just like their color scheme and backstory.

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Very cool design and powers

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Severely lacking in emotional attachment

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You don’t know what I’m talking about

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Yamatos lowk boring

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is this english literature?

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too little too late

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Like literally this shit is elementary

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I love yamato

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I like how Oda made Loki an idolizer a lot more than Yamato

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Most fun hair in the series hands down

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yamato is awesome but i do agree he was lackluster

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“Is this English literature” no this is media literacy

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Fuck this character bullshit who cares, best hair????

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I love how Oda explores the same trope in like varying intensity levels through different characters

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complaining abt subjective and objective is his biggest point not Yamato bruh

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It’s only one color. It has shape points for sure.

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Imu literally trembling from Loki’s feat

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Oda is overglazing

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And it’s a lame ass normal color

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Imu needs an inhaler

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Loki is only 16 btw

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loki gets points on the colour

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Even shanks was upset

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Loki’s has texture too

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Color and texture give big points

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And length

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im not a fan of the two tails on the front

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Why is Loki getting such massive feat

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If you laugh you go to hell

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The fronds bro????

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I fuck with Loki’s fronds

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im a braids guy

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What am I reading, man

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Oda glazing loki's df hard this chapter

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itd be funny if all of his fruit is just name dropping things from norse mythology

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Would be based

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Loki’s fruit could be Thor

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hes a big nerd

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A literal fucking god

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that wouldnt make sense considering loki turns into a beast

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thor that runs on all 4s

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given how mythical zoans are oda can just throw whatever at the wall

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thor's signature claws and roar

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Hi all,

Hope you all enjoy One Piece Chapter 1171: Ragnir!

I helped translate this chapter for TCB. Ping me if ya got any questions, comments, or criticisms.

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HNNNNGGGHHHH 😌

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I’m warning you that they will switch up on Ragnir

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So Ragnir has storm powers

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What I think about the chapter is that Gaban is awesome.

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Ragnir has 9 devil fruits in it

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Do you wanna hear my theiry

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Theory

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oh yeah the niflheim attack was probably from ragnir

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I think ragnir has 9 devil fruits!

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nice embedding emood

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Ragnirfesting season

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Well yea i saw it from a yt short

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😭

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Read this

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not a lot of cool art on twitter rn

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did find this one at least

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He’s so sick

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Oda didn’t have to make him so sick

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Remember when people were afraid he’d be silly looking

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I remember those times when people used to assume he's gonna be like Orochi

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Remember

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So peak

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Hes the sidekick

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Ragnir and it's sidekick

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There's always a fan for anything I suppose

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And now loki actually using a hammer

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-# SQUEAK SQUEAK

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Loki looks majestic here ngl

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Lokabwe

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loki aura farming will never end

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So excited to see Loki in the anime

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No its not

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Brah added in haki for the lolz

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I like that we can see his sun tattoo better now

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No we havent

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??

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Yup thats definitely a sun

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Wonder who did it for him lol

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Bouta piss off all the Chinese and Korean one piece fans

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Ida's the most likely person to tattoo Loki he didn't trust anyone back then

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Bc you’re right

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Nice try tho

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Toei animated it still

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like damn it's not like Ida killed her

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im still at punk hazard in the anime ZuneshaDespair

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oh nooooo ive been spoiled................

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That’s one way to put it lol

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Aw shucks

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Loki going thru it

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Loki so much cooler than his dad

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Unless the mural Loki looking figure is his ancestor

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Jarul let Loki be chained to a tree for four years

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He took that promise to heart

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I wonder if haralds upper half is like just

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Gone

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What yall know about the Akkadian Empire

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Shanks didn’t lose the arm with the seal did he

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That EA-Nasir guy huh

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What a dick

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Got it

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Wait till you learn how the rock you’re standing on was formed millions of years ago

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So saving Luffy freed him

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Also shanks is left handed so he is severely nerfed

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He would probably, almost definitely lose to mihawk if they fought again

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Lacked conviction

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Eternal human experience

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Given how shanks is characterized i dont think he'd be afraid of getting his arm chopped off

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ea nasir would've been sucker punched live for that shit

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Shanks was too much of a puss to have someone cut his arm off when he expected it 😔

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tbh there's an argument to be made that ea-nasir was a good businessman and he was keeping those bad reviews because it told him which customers were untrustworthy

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maybe the akkadian karens are the real villains here

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1000 pounds of copper all of bad quality, withholding funds after a refund request, and then treats the customer and their messengers with contempt

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that guy is a bitch

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fuking hell man Ragnir is too cold

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Loki so far seems like the only guy able to kill a regen user

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it's either ragnir, loki's df, conq haki, or some combo of the above

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Also why would they ask Loki to join the HKs after Imu saying we must not have that happen

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I don't get it

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Usopp becomes my top3 SH if he gets Ragnir BoaBlush

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maybe the messengers were assholes too

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playing devil's advocate for a copper seller WAKAINU

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he's simply misunderstood

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Imu forgot

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Or oda did

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Getting hard to discern what might be intentional or a mistake these days

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i think it's more likely imu has learned new info about elbaf that means he needs it now and can't leave it alone

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Y'all think Draugr could solo Doflamingo

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Yes

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what did yall make of the Elbaf D line?

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Logan Paul decided to hop on the one piece fan clout chase

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The island is on top of the A D Am tree

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he called the protagonist "Luffy D. Monkey"

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Imagine every available giant helped joyboy , that means they all got given a D, that means they all passed it down their families

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That’s why some random ass giant not even from elbaf wound up with a D, he’s educated and probably traced his family lineage and found his n full name , We aren’t even told giants full names usually

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They lost history

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Still a theory tho , there could be holes in it

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Like if he’s from the other country of giants , do they have full names?

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Are they all D too?

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could be a case of Ds originating from Elbaf?

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Could be

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Maybe at the very least , if it’s not so grand , just the royal line could be Ds, Harald’s line , but it’s so suspicious we don’t even have a family name for even the royal line

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Would be nice if Loki was a D.

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It’s just Harald , Loki , Hajrduin , no last names , no last names for damn near every giant

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It’s odd to me

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How is Elbaph of the D. if none of them have anything more than a first name

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Maybe they don’t even know their family names lol

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They have a robot on their own island they know nothing of

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Oda loves to give people first and last names but suddenly doesn’t for specific races or characters

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Hmmm

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I dont think its that odd

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If that is true Loki has crazy relation to the past

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Different cultures do it differently

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Maybe its a little strange he didnt choose the norse way

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Loki haraldsson

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Hellfire Serpent
Centuries old DF and Hammer that Imu doesn't even know
And possibly a D. monicker

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-Imu: lives 800s years
-Also Imu: "is something unforseen lurking on Elbaf?"

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god imu you fucking [redacted]

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why didnt imu send cipher pol to check for things unforseen

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they got taken away by road's crow

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remember

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You can’t visit elbaf if you’re bitch made , you won’t even get passed the creepy fodder guy’s pet crow

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I love how oda gave loki's devil fruit half a silhouette

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like oh we're only allowed to see the top part

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why is there something on the bottom I shan't see?

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you’re not allowed to know it’s fenrir yet even tho it clearly is CrocoWine

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im gonna use hacking techniques from the movies too

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mashing my keyboard until something happens

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Tekking is a fuckin idiot

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He thinks that Loki's fruit is an eagle

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becasue of the talons

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fucking idiot

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fuck you

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imagine dissing Tekking

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fuck you

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get his ass

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screw you too

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Never heard an eagle go BWAOOOOOO

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tho

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its not an eagle xd

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So what would u ask daddy garling for

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My mother back

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Garling: you don’t like? Okay I’ll kill her

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2 bags of hot cheetos. An xbox 360. And a tub of coconut oil

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shanks must've felt like throwing up when he saw where half his DNA comes from

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They're all celestial dragon / holy land exclusive cards

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With an ultra rare Sabo getting stabbed by Imu

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Hell yea

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And its named "The great one's strike"

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I’m hoping to get Shamrock autographed rookie card

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Rocks in the afterlife: fuck u

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After all his role is emergency food

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And the holy land is having an emergency food crisis

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Thats why its specifically emergency food crisis

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Chopper won't be cooked

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they still won't each chopper

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Loki x Usopp about to be great

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and Hajrudin

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Hajrudin not getting an ounce of glaze from me until he does something

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oh i guess loki did end up being a liar/trickster of sorts

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just not in the way we expected

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Shanks getting rid of that arm really freed him

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i still hope hajrudin gets to get one over on loki this arc but it seems a bit less likely now

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All that glazing for loki and hajrudin just for both to work under usopp at the end

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ourple

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iyrple

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What permanent power up can he get

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Unless one of the HKs die and he takes their fruit

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i have a question

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Completely undeserved

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Usopp with the dream fruit would be crazy

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are the colors indigo and violet ragebait

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no

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then why do they make me mad

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indigo i can understand but violet is chill

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is it ragegenuine?

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i actually am fine with indigo

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Since he already has it

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but why does purple get two damn spots on the color thing

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He can just learn how to use it more

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roygbiv

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purple had to be different

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Bro needs more than observation haki that’s not gonna defeat the knights

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why can't green get two greens

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He doesn't need to

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He clearly isn't expected to be on that level either

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like yelleen and glue instead of yellow and green and blue

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or wait no

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Hajrudin will get acoc and a mythical zoan and his own mythical zoan weapon all in 10 chapters

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Also he'll grow 100 feet

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Average Ussop fan prediction

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Maybe his eyes mutate too

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okay new roygbiv = royygbp
red orange yellow yeleen glue blue purple

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usopp's only powerup being observation is so boring

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You're forgetting he'll be recognized by Imu as a god

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surely we can do something more interesting than future sight

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the deeper underwater you go the less colors there are

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Reality: he can punch 20k tons now

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He can get better ammunition

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He can design a new weapon

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true perhaps one based off a hammer

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did you know

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this is relevant

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Yeah I guess

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rainbow marker bridge elbaf

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this is relevant. im talking about one piece relevant

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Ussop getting proficiency in Observation Haki makes the most sense right now though

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will the rainbow market bridges ever get mentioned again?

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no

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marker

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Even if it's boring it's not like he'll just become Joyboy level to adhere to what you find boring and pleasing

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whats a blackbody plot

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AHHHH NERD CHART AHHHHHHHHH

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oh wait thats cause it is

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silly ocean flipped it

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goatcean

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the bends is really scary

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its crazy that the deadliest part of scuba diving is going up too fast

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and exploding

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Thats too much of a leap for me

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Tragic typo

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niflhrim

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id rather for any powerup usopp gets here to be one he has to work for but i have no clue how thatd work

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him just picking up a cool fruit or weapon is eh

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Loki having 2 sun tattoos could mean something but I don't know what ShanksHmmm

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I think he will use it but only temporarily

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in leap frog you leap over the titular frog, but in a twist of fate you become the frog to be leaped over. sad

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Occum's razor or whatever

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Elbaph is the God War Arc BBWise

Imu
Luffy
Loki
Usopp

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is there a third long named bastard whos arming himself

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actually two syllables isnt that long

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#deep

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Who is occum

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i really want there to be athird one

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like its bothering me

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Unless you're just joking ig that's funny

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but thats not as good

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Galileo's telescope

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Niflheim & Ice Age both debuted against huge monsters with Luffy being amazed both times in the same panel spot .. i wonder if that was intentional or just a coincidence lmao

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probably just to show the power

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okay ngl i chatgpt'd it and the best result was Maslow's hammer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_the_instrument

The law of the instrument, law of the hammer, Maslow's hammer, or golden hammer is a cognitive bias that involves an over-reliance on a familiar tool. Abraham Maslow wrote in 1966, "it is tempting, if the only tool you have is a hammer, to treat everything as if it were a nail."
The concept is attributed both to Maslow and to Abraham Kaplan, alt...

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maslow's hammer is good

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oh this is where the everything looks like a nail thing comes from

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what if the squirrel is a squirrel that ate the maslow's hammer mythical paramecia zoan

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oda loves a reaction piece like some self glaze

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if we ever see something cool in one piece the first thing we should be asking is what are luffy's thoughts on it

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it's also a two syllable name which is great

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l*ffy's opinions don't matter and he should die TBH

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This chapter proves that Loki is Joyboy tier

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This is why aces fruit sucks dude

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Little ol me?

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We see people do incredible shit with fire all the time that even ace cant

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But then we see kuzans fruit

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And nobody can get close

sage temple
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Wasn't that 1/2 an island

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For both

trim lily
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hitchen's razor, alder's razor, occams' razor, grice's razor

frosty jasper
sage temple
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Also Dragr's have flames on their back and Loki extinguished it when he froze the Draugr

frosty jasper
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Id rather burn my enemies to deathx if i freeze them , they might be able to thaw out

sage temple
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This might be a counter to Lunarian flames

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Just freezing them

placid rover
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Y'all think Draugr solos Marineford Luffy

dense rapids
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They’re fodder

placid rover
trim lily
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calling the 300 foot beast fodder is a little silly

sage temple
mighty shell
formal wagon
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HUMES FORK IS ANOTHER ONE

dense rapids
trim lily
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wait we found two different forks

golden valley
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Theyre only as strong as the kids can imagine them to be

dense rapids
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Killingham just can keep bringing them back

golden valley
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So yeah, they would pretty much be fodder

tawny panther
golden valley
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The kids dont have a good representation of their strength

tawny panther
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they gonna see more of Loki bag than Kuzan

golden valley
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They can trash on the fodder giant warriors though

formal wagon
sage temple
vital heart
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This chapter proves that Loki is Joyboy tier

trim lily
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there’s also russel’s teapot but that’s not a weapon

formal wagon
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i love phrases and sayings and coined terms

sage temple
formal wagon
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EXCEPT FOR LANDSCAPE URBANISM TAHT SHIT IS FUCKING STUPID

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"JUST PLANT SHIT"

golden valley
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Kuzan still has better freezing scale, by a lot really.

trim lily
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he is the ice guy after all

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it’d be bizarre for the squirrel to beat the ice guy in freezing

tawny panther
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yeah i don’t expect Loki freezing/ice to be better than Kuzan , but the fact that freezing is just ONE of Ragnir abilities is what’s terrifying

dense rapids
golden valley
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Ragnir’s freezing is still pretty lit

grand flower
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@hazy turret ey gang I’m sorry for everything I’ve been saying behind your back. I drank two Monsters and let em make a third one

sage temple
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The Draugr had a flame on his back and Loki extinguished it. Loki might be able to extinguish Lunarian flames the same way

frosty jasper
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Fire is supposed to resist ice tho

grand flower
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Mfw fire goes out in contact with ice and snow

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Who could have imagined

formal wagon
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MFW LOKI IS PERGANT le_reaction

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yeah okay

trim lily
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mpreg loki theory

sage temple
frosty jasper
formal wagon
sage temple
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I'm not saying permanently turn it off

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The fire obviously melts ice when given time

formal wagon
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wait no, pergant is a secret ancient giant that was friends with joyboy or something

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real

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pergant upscale

sage temple
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But it could be a counter to Lunarian invulnerability

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This would explain how the Lunarians all got killed

formal wagon
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are you pergant because you're the strongest or are you the strongest becaue you're pergant

sage temple
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Maybe someone extinguished them all

frosty jasper
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Wtf does pergant mean

dense rapids
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Man I can’t wait for the cutaways I need to see what’s going on in the world

formal wagon
trim lily
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you won’t be getting a cutaway for a good while

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probably after elbaf ends

sage temple
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Har I'm funny I said pregnant har

formal wagon
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soccer tease gets it

trim lily
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rickTrue it is funny

dense rapids
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Wano was the only arc like that iirc

tawny panther
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wonder when Oda is gonna reveal what’s going on in Mariejois

formal wagon
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elbaf ends -> vira begins

dense rapids
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Because of how they portrayed the whole arc being closed off from the rest of the world

trim lily
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what was dressrosa and whole cake’s cutaways

sage temple
latent hamlet
latent hamlet
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But it wasnt long

frosty jasper
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Before it was forced to modernize

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So it could avoid china’s fate of being humiliated by british/other european countries invading

tawny panther
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after this chapter , I can’t see how anybody can see these panels and think this man is gonna become Luffy subordinate and join the crew instead for leading the giants on their own crew

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he already led elbaf soldiers out to sea for years

dense rapids
formal wagon
dense rapids
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Or was that a flashback

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I can’t remember

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The part with him and the sun pirates otw to wci

trim lily
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a flashback i assume

dense rapids
trim lily
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when i think of a cutaway i think of like 2-3+ chaps

formal wagon
dense rapids
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There’s either gonna be cutaways or more people will come to Elbaph

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I lowkey prefer the ladder

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Imagine random people just popping up as they’re fighting

olive sigil
trim lily
sage temple
trim lily
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i really dont want another egghead

dense rapids
formal wagon
vital heart
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This chapter proves that Loki is Joyboy tier

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Is it just me or did Imu kinda look like a Psyduck in this chapter?

@dense rapids

dense rapids
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The egghead chapter that ended with the BB flag was so hype

mighty shell
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you already said that meek

formal wagon
formal wagon
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another literal egghead

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egghead 2

dense rapids
vital heart
formal wagon
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"hello"

trim lily
tawny panther
vital heart
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It looks like a Psyduck silhouette

dense rapids
formal wagon
trim lily
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oh im blind

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im rooting for it

formal wagon
sage temple
dense rapids
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I think Loki will just retrieve the Galleila and that will be his crew

sage temple
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I think he'll be fit to lead the Galle La soldiers

tawny panther
dense rapids
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Great War Hammer Band led by the man with the Great War hammer

tawny panther
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Garp , Rocks , Harald descendants will all be their own captains imo .. Roger son could’ve been included too but he was a idiot

sage temple
tawny panther
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i don’t see Loki being a Mihawk 2.0 where he just roams the seas alone

sage temple
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Yeah he took them and led them because they are the most convenient and loyal at hand as servants to him. If anything Loki can just lead the Gallela giants

dense rapids
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Top 3 crew in OP

sage temple
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Exactly

tawny panther
sage temple
tawny panther
dense rapids
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Loki leading the Galleila seems like the whole point of the flashback

ocean sigil
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The giants of Elbaf were artificially created 900 years ago in an attempt to build an army strong enough to oppose the 20 founding Kings.
Vegapunks clone tech is based on what the ancient kingdom did back then, just not that advanced. That's why we have a fruit that can change the size of the user. It was the dream of the people back in time to be able to be big and strong to fight the enemy, so the fruit came to life.

sage temple
tawny panther
ocean sigil
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My theory i just posted in #manga , you guys can see it too

sage temple
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I don't see why Rocks would mention that unreasonably

sage temple
dense rapids
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I think this was the previous Galleila leader

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You see how they’re all standing around his body

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He’s the only one lying down

tawny panther
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yeah it’s possible Galle La Giants can join him too if he can free them but going based off what we know now , him leading Elbaf giants who are already there seem more likely than him only leading. the galle la giants .. he can do both

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galle la giants will join elbaf giants anyway since they from elbaf too

dense rapids
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I mean ofc they’ll join Elbaph

tawny panther
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sucks that we’ll probably never see yonko loki though if he does lead a crew cause i think this is the last set of yonkos in the story with buggy luffy teach shanks

dense rapids
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The difference is the Galleila will be out at sea

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Like they already were

tough igloo
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don’t make no sense at all to have a Pirate KING while also having four EMPERORS 😂

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gotta be one or the other cause it don’t make sense together

olive sigil
sage temple
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Other than Hajrudin being his brother

olive sigil
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What happened to the giants that went with Loki

sage temple
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Would be fitting for him to lead the Galleila giants as the story has been leading up to

olive sigil
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Did he eat them

tough igloo
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realistically this is probably gonna be the last and final batch of official emperors cause the WG going down soon anyway

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they the ones who appoint all that stuff to the public

tough igloo
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plus it makes sense for the last set of yonkos to be these 4 we got now

dense rapids
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First the warlord system was abolished next is the Yonko with the induction of the new pirate king

sage temple
tough igloo
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didn’t even think about it lol that , i just know luffy buggy teach shanks as the last yonkos feels to make the most sense with how the story started and stuff

grand flower
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Morj is something else bruh

Surely the HK opponents will be random pirates who don’t care about them and not the Revolutionary Army that first told us about them and exist to dismantle their entire society

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Actually I can’t even blame Morj

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Lot of the fandom too

tough igloo
dense rapids
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Any guesses on who knocked the Draugr from the sun realm?

scenic dirge
dense rapids
scenic dirge
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Obviously he’s wrong but that would go so hard

dense rapids
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Ripley, Franky, some random giants, Saul

sage temple
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Oh wait they are here

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Jarul then

scenic dirge
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Huh

dense rapids
scenic dirge
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Was gonna say

sage temple
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Yeah I know

dense rapids
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Oh yea forgot about Jarul

spice cairn
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Yamato and Katakuri doing a Sovereignty attack on a HK and killing them is infinitely cooler than a rev vs HK fight

dense rapids
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Was probably him since that’s who Imu was attacking

scenic dirge
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It probably just slipped off the edge like a fucking idiot

grand flower
spice cairn
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So I support Morji just this once

sage temple
scenic dirge
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Nice

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Very good

sage temple
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Thank you

tidal ice
spice cairn
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This is career ending

scenic dirge
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I think half the holy knights won’t even be defeated in the final war and will more so just wither away once Imu is defeated

dense rapids
spice cairn
sage temple
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Loki bases his first named attack off of the name of his biggest fan

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🥹

scenic dirge
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We all know who’s gonna demand the most screentime regardless. I think half the holy knights will just be dealt with a variety of the background cast characters like certain rev characters or good marines etc…

runic dock
sage temple
spice cairn
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The HKs will be killed off by Burgress

runic dock
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Wasn’t it?

scenic dirge
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Lmfaoo

sage temple
muted hedge
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by this naming scheme the lightning attack would probably be named 'Asgard'

scenic dirge
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I don’t think the attack was named

runic dock
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Not Harald

sage temple
scenic dirge
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We just learned the name Ragnir

sage temple
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Still no

runic dock
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Ok just making sure

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Oda is a hack

sage temple
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This no will not change

spice cairn
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Asgard will probably be a fire attack

scenic dirge
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Ragnir can just bring any sort of calamity probably. Especially since both the lightning attack and ice attack seem purely from Ragnir

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And not his fruit

spice cairn
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I think Ragnir is an elemental hammer

muted hedge
scenic dirge
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Loki is so fucking insane lol

runic dock
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He’s not even awakened yet , neither of them are

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Loki and hammer have room to grow

grand flower
spice cairn
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Ragnir will also have fire and wind attacks for sure.

runic dock
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Shamrocks sword is awakened , I fully expect Loki or the hammer to awaken , and also shamrock himself to be awakened c

tidal ice
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the avatar 🐿️

muted hedge
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speaking of, i wonder what other power Shamrock has outside of Cerberus

scenic dirge
spice cairn
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Does this mean, this is a Kuzan upscale?

runic dock
muted hedge
scenic dirge
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I might be crucified for this but I can see Loki currently being stronger than Luffy. At minimum they’re the same strength rn imo

spice cairn
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I think hes been stronger than Luffy

scenic dirge
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His strength, especially with Ragnir and the fruit is almost mythical

runic dock
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He’s stronger

muted hedge
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Loki is cracked by all means but i still think it's too soon to say

spice cairn
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Loki absolutely has feats that Luffy doesn't have yet iirc.

scenic dirge
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Ok good at least that isn’t too controversial then lol

runic dock
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Luffy has a lot to grow still

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His acoc isn’t there yet

frosty jasper
spice cairn
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Even Luffy is incredibly mystified by Loki's attack. And mind you it was a simple Ragnir attack

muted hedge
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Luffy only needs to figure out how to defeat the regeneration, after that he is pretty much up there

runic dock
spice cairn
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Imagine once he starts going all out

runic dock
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He killed Harald

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An immortal

scenic dirge
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I just think this chapter especially cements that if Loki wasn’t there, the entire world was in danger. And even Imu simply doesn’t understand how Harald was possibly stopped

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Loki is insane

sage temple
spice cairn
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Yeah Loki basically proved that hes leagues above Luffy atp

dense haven
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guys im new to one piece why is loki fighting brook

muted hedge
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i feel like there might be some recency bias, but i understand it

spice cairn
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Him killing Harald basically seals the deal

sage temple
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Yeah but at the very minimum Loki is about equal to Luffy

runic dock
sage temple
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Loki could definitely be leagues stronger than Luffy though

runic dock
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He definitely had room to grow

spice cairn
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Luffy wouldn't had been able to kill Harald if he was placed in that situation.

sage temple
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True

scenic dirge
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I’m not gonna say he’s a lot stronger than someone who’s a definitive emperor lol. But he’s clearly on that level of power. Like no one’s strength has been hyped up as this otherworldly since Kaido and BM

scenic dirge
spice cairn
scenic dirge
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Fuck am I turning into Socrates? 😭

sage temple
spice cairn
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If you think a ragnir attack was this tough, imagine once he actually starts getting serious

runic dock
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Shanks or somebody better talk about shanks vs Loki real soon, this also proves Luffy isn’t as strong as shanks yet

dense haven
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socrates brainrot is spreading

runic dock
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Luffy has levels to go still

scenic dirge
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Wouldn’t be the first time. It’s not like Shanks defeated Kaido either

grand flower
sage temple
runic dock
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We can’t overestimate luffy

dapper tree
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Luffy got this

muted hedge
scenic dirge
grand flower
scenic dirge
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Loki first person in centuries to “tame” Ragnir

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It’s his power

runic dock
scenic dirge
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Bro this is the same shit as “Enma carried Zoro”

spice cairn
#

Loki past Ragnir's little test

scenic dirge
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Come on

grand flower
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Ragnir’s power*

sage temple
scenic dirge
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It’s his hammer

spice cairn
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Something not many people were able to do.

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If ever

sage temple
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Lmao

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You hate to see Loki strong don't you

spice cairn
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So that is a testament to his strength

steel stirrup
sage temple
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Yikes this is some crazy cope

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Especially coming from you ngl

spice cairn
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So is Zoro strong solely because its Enma's power

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Ayy caramba

grand flower
scenic dirge
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I’m not even some crazy Loki fan yet as a character. I do like him. But you’re being disingenuous if you can’t acknowledge that his strength is being hyped up as legendary

muted hedge
scenic dirge
spice cairn
sage temple
scenic dirge
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You’re grasping at straws to think that Ragnir is a completely separate entity from Loki’s overall powerset

sage temple
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ACoC is clearly a factor

runic dock
sage temple
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Ragnir doesn't have Haki

runic dock
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You’re also dismissing his acoc

spice cairn
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Its very hard to deny why Loki being a Yonko considered character at some point wasnt just a meme

sage temple
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Ragnir is a tool for Loki to use to kill Harald

spice cairn
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He is a Yonko.

sage temple
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I wonder what the word for a tool to kill someone is

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Oh that's right

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It's a weapon

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Who would've thought

runic dock
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Socrates is right so far

grand flower
sage temple
grand flower
runic dock
sage temple
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⁉️

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😭

steel stirrup
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Whoa

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Whoa

scenic dirge
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I’m trying to think about which agenda is hurt by acknowledging Loki’s strength and why some people would feel obligated to denounce it

steel stirrup
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😭

grand flower
scenic dirge
grand flower
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Sounds like a whole lotta Loki didnr use the fruit to kill Harald

runic dock
spice cairn
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Shuron I love you man but what the hell LMAO

sage temple
steel stirrup
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Good Lord

runic dock
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There’s no argument loki is stronger

steel stirrup
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😭😭

grand flower
steel stirrup
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Nika D Christ

muted hedge
scenic dirge
#

You’re wrong to use such an insane analogy yea

sage temple
scenic dirge
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Please don’t

grand flower
spice cairn
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Bro its such a batshit comparison though man

scenic dirge
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Genuinely

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Don’t

torn kite
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WE FINALLY OUT OF FLASHBACK PRISON

sage temple
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That might be warnable but idk

spice cairn
#

Anyways

runic dock
grand flower
spice cairn
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We got to kneel to Socrates

runic dock
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Without killing

steel stirrup
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😭

sage temple
steel stirrup
sage temple
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THE ENTIRE 1ST PART OF THE FIGHT WAS LOKI NOT USING THE HAMMER 😭

muted hedge
steel stirrup
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Ts is hilarious tho

sage temple
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It definitely is lmao

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I'm crine

runic dock
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Ragnir lightning and acoc from Loki hit as the same time , it’s never just Ragnir alone