also-manga

[atomic spindle]

Dude seriously

[orchid fable]

Let him cook

[ashen perch]

I mean its clear that the HKs typically dont die, what Loki did was the first feat of its kind

and based on that, we can now assume that the HKs previously shown didnt get killed after all

[stone terrace]

Well they can still retire

Or die of old age

[ashen perch]

why would they lol

its only been 38 years

[near crater]

Loki will show the others how to do it

[stone terrace]

You say this like rayleigh hasnt been retired

[ashen perch]

none of them looked old enough to possibly die from old age in 38 years

[iron oriole]

Yeah its funny but it makes sense

[cosmic hamlet]

Wait, you used 13 which confuses me. The level 2 and level 3 combined are only 13. Its not 13 hk + 5 elders as far as i remember

[shadow knoll]

how long is this break?

[unique lagoon]

garling looks like he aged more than sommers
gunko dint change

[shadow knoll]

like next chapter in 14 days?

[ashen perch]

because Oda has introduced 10 HKs in the series already

[formal wagon]

"oda"

yeah sure

[stone terrace]

There can only be a certain number of knights so there has to be turnover

[cosmic hamlet]

They can die of age or they could have done something wrong and imu killed them

[formal wagon]

sandman writes the manga now

[stone terrace]

Would they let a rising star like shamrock not ascend because there are no new spots?

[shadow knoll]

people still think Oda knows his own plot

bro just freestyles

[ashen perch]

I dont think there's a spot thing in the first place personally, there were just 13 during Harald's time

[fallen meteor]

Oh shit its out

[cosmic hamlet]

Each family of celestial dragon compete to get the level 2 contract, i wonder at some point they will pass it on to their next kin.

Maybe the god valley kinda game is for this purpose where the winning family gets to choose next level 2 contractor

[iron oriole]

Idt theres a solid cap on how many contracts can be given out, personally am of the opinion that the "13" was just the number of contracts given out at the time

Like when Harald got promoted, there didn't seem like there was urgency because another HK died etc, to me it was just like "oh we were gonna promote Shanks but we cant locate him so its yours if you want it"

If anything i can see there being a sort of time limit/recoup period after each contract & thats why theres so few

[buoyant comet]

I was gonna say they tried promoting Loki to their ranks without a vacancy but I remembered garling became a gorosei

[upbeat yarrow]

I really, really like this panel

[tepid thicket]

yeah i do think there will be a part 2. personally there's a lot left of zoro's character that oda hasnt indulged in yet

[cosmic hamlet]

I kinda half agree but imu doesn't also give them to anyone freely because if they die imu will bear the consequences like in this chapter.

The more they are given to then the more danger of having consequences

[urban lodge]

It's funny that Jarul didn't even have brain damage

Bro was just lying

[prisma yacht]

Loki loves him

[ashen perch]

I think you guys are all really overestimating the ages of those GV HKs, they would all still be young enough to be active by themselves lol

[upbeat yarrow]

what brain damage, his helmet protected him

[vernal ravine]

i think it has to be a limitation somehow cause other way imu could make like 500 holy knights and that's it maybe there was an empty gap for someone and they give it to harald thanks to his power

[urban lodge]

True

[prisma yacht]

King of all giants not just elbaf

[cosmic hamlet]

Considering sommers is still active yeah but again sommers is also old if you ask me

Sorry sommers**

[ashen perch]

Lets count again:
Before Garling became an Elder, there were 5 confirmed Active HKs already : Garling, Shamrock, Gunko, Sommers and Qilingham

During GV, there were 5 more present as well:
Maffey, YetiGuy, Cow Mask, Goth and the Other Manmeyer

Thats 10 confirmed HKs already, its just very unlikely that those 5 died or retired during the last 38 years lol, so 10+ HKs it is

[formal wagon]

drain bamage
combedy

[ashen perch]

Sommers still retains his glorious hair color, he is below 60 at best

[winged laurel]

Ayyy Luffy returns

[shadow knoll]

wait a fucking min

[cosmic hamlet]

He looked like he is beyond 30 in god valley

[shadow knoll]

why was the chapter named ragnir

[winged laurel]

Because aura at the end

[upbeat yarrow]

cause new goat just dropped and his name is ragnir

[cosmic hamlet]

Because of final page, ragnir seems to have some weird power

[ashen perch]

again youre overestimating his age lol

[shadow knoll]

wdym

[winged laurel]

Aight brainrot time:
Is this episode a brook downscale

Hehe

[vernal ravine]

also they were looking for a new holy knight rn cause saturn death allowed garling to scale to gorosei which i think it left an empty position in holy knights that's why they were looking for Loki

[buoyant comet]

Brook is faster and can freeze his opponents

[shadow knoll]

what did brook do

[urban lodge]

Can't wait for Ragnir to make fire next chapter

[cosmic hamlet]

He looks similar to rayleigh age

[ashen perch]

he looks 24

[fallen meteor]

OK so he can freeze too
Another cloud logia point

[winged laurel]

Brook has ice powers, Loki has ice powers, Loki frozen a giant skeleton, you get it

[ashen perch]

he definitely doesnt look Rayleigh's age in the present anyways, so youre wrong on this

[winged laurel]

He probably took the stop ageing contract

[ashen perch]

nah

[cosmic hamlet]

This is the reason for the chapter name, could have been a different name but its okay

[buoyant comet]

Ya know he kinda looks like he's related to Rayleigh

[winged laurel]

Garling seemingly did not take this deal yet

[ashen perch]

he did age, just not by a lot

[glacial bear]

Harald was feeling chilly after Loki used Ragnir

[fallen meteor]

Next ch starts with them going up and they already won
Jinbei put his plan into action and it worked

[cosmic hamlet]

I would have agreed if you said that girl looks 24-28

[shadow knoll]

oaurrr

[ashen perch]

I believe they are all 20-24

[urban lodge]

Oh yeah, Jimbei has been thinking for the past 9 months

[shadow knoll]

so niflheim is a power of ragnir then? i thought it was loki's

[cosmic hamlet]

Definitely not, why would he get it and not garling?

[shadow knoll]

wthelly

[glacial bear]

Ragnir can use both ice and lightning. Scary!

[urban lodge]

Let's see if he came to any conclusion

[iron oriole]

Brook has been tied up the entire time otherwise he'd neg

[cosmic hamlet]

[cosmic hamlet]

If he is below 30 then he aged horribly

[vernal ravine]

sommers is at least 60

[ashen perch]

eh he looks about as old as the admirals

[cosmic hamlet]

Nothing is known yet, both dfs are not revealed

[upbeat yarrow]

loki feels like that dlc character that downscales the whole roster in a fighting game, crazy

[glacial bear]

Lmaooo. Yeah he’s pretty cracked

[buoyant comet]

"Shackles off" would have been a better title imo. Loki got unchained at the end of the chapter, and he also kinda removed the burden of keeping his father's death a secret. His brother no longer loathes him so ya could say the chain of hate between them has been unshackled.

[fallen meteor]

Isn't it crazy that Loki is using cloud powers

[glacial bear]

I wonder what elements Ragnir can’t do

[buoyant comet]

I'm just yapping atp

[cosmic hamlet]

lets wait for vivre card

[ashen perch]

sure sure

[shadow knoll]

yeah won't be revealed for another 10 chapters i bet

[glacial bear]

I love this Brook artwork

[buoyant comet]

Wind. If he has wind powers I'd be pissed

[stone terrace]

Foreskinning brook gets ragnir

[cosmic hamlet]

Oda always will be vague with titles, it would have spoiled people as soon as they start reading the chapter if that was the title

[prisma yacht]

So cool

[glacial bear]

Magma too, I can’t see Ragnir being able to perform that. Fire most definitely I can see Ragnir produce

[shadow knoll]

go to work

[buoyant comet]

True...

[cosmic hamlet]

[stone terrace]

Im walkin pal

[iron oriole]

Technically Ragnir already has produced fire

[stone terrace]

Dont start till 8

[shadow knoll]

i can't ragnir do atp

[vernal ravine]

probably and the chapter he transforms into his zoan form he will be a silhouete and we won't see him until the next chapter

[buoyant comet]

By the time you look at your phone to read my message, a Ford transit will ram into you.

[vernal ravine]

i know oda

[cosmic hamlet]

Btw, what do you think about ragnir?

Hammer who ate a df related to squirrel or a squirrel ate a df related to hammer?

[ashen perch]

hammer with a ratatoskr zoan

[shadow knoll]

supreme milker

[visual timber]

I like the idea of squirrel with a mjolnir fruit

[cosmic hamlet]

Squirrel with a thor fruit

[buoyant comet]

Icon is not responding he might actually have gotten hit with a car...

[sturdy steeple]

Cool choptir

[frozen aspen]

So let me get this straight, its not like all soldiers died its just that those few who survived went with loki. Which explains why we see giants around his silhouette when he propses to lola

[buoyant comet]

Does Mjolnir have freezing powers?

[cosmic hamlet]

If this is the case, it will prove that whatever vegapunk worked on is already part of ancient technology

[urban lodge]

I'm surprised we didn't see the Lola stuff at least

[shadow knoll]

can't believe oda introduced a new character on year end that went straight #1 in power scaling to beat Imu

[ashen perch]

well yea, VP was still far behind the best of the Void Century

[frozen aspen]

Saved for later

[urban lodge]

Yeah probably

[visual timber]

Not sure. I also don't know if ratatoskir does

[buoyant comet]

Chill, he's weaker than Shanks, Mihawk, and Luffy,

[cold steppe]

Mihawk sneak

[formal wagon]

Does glorpnir have powers

[shadow knoll]

Mihawk 🥀

[cosmic hamlet]

Surprised, sad, dissapointed many things

[ashen perch]

yeah I think Loki will get a separate flashback for all this

[buoyant comet]

Eh well it's a fictional story not everything has to be accurate according to Norse mythology

[ashen perch]

"Ask me why I love feet" didnt understand this, I did

its not time for that flashback yet

[buoyant comet]

I wanted to see Loki fight shanks

[cosmic hamlet]

Whats there to be saved for later? 😭 Oda is noob

[shadow knoll]

don't even bother abt bringing mihawk in top 10 conversations anymore

[vernal ravine]

i think he might be equals with luffy rn after elbaph i can see luffy being stronger

[ashen perch]

theres a whole arc ahead of us, theres plenty of time

[shadow knoll]

he's an abandoned character atp

[iron oriole]

Mihawk top 50 trust

[cosmic hamlet]

Another flashback? No thanks. I would rather oda not show us alltogether. Maybe 1 or 2 panels but not in chapters

[frozen aspen]

it will be a smaller flashback in the middle of their fight against imu. It might just be half a chapter bc its not smth that requires a lot of time to tell

[buoyant comet]

I think Shanks is stronger but his strength is still relative to Shanks. If not for that reason I wouldn't have put him so high.

[formal wagon]

what kind of

[iron oriole]

What kind of what mailbox?

[bold sonnet]

@ashen perch can you check manga theories channel rq please 🙏

[buoyant comet]

If you replace Kaido with Loki on Onigashima then Luffy is winning

[ashen perch]

tyty

[cosmic hamlet]

The only reason oda didn't do loki flashback is because he added a new info

"Loki went to sea to fight wg". He doesn't want to show this yet hence he skipped

[iron oriole]

Ragnir negs Kaido, so Ragnir > Luffy during Wano

[sturdy steeple]

So is Oda going to retcon her age or something because I’m still confused on that part

[ashen perch]

well youre gonna get multiple more flashbacks idk what to tell you smh

[buoyant comet]

Ragnir lost to a pre df Loki, he's not allat

[cosmic hamlet]

But elbaf will end in 30-40 chapters

[ashen perch]

Gunko/Brook, Loki's own flashback, maybe a couple more if Oda's feeling good

Elbaf will not be ending in 30-40 chapters

[cosmic hamlet]

Gunko flashback ain't gonna happen in elbaf

[shadow knoll]

how we bringing kaido and loki at same level 🥀 luffy's base g5 shit on kaido

[vernal ravine]

who's age

[ashen perch]

it will tho

[iron oriole]

A Loki who was clashing with Imu buffed Harald, who was arguably equal to Rocks pre buff

[prisma yacht]

Yeah elbaf is not ending before 30chapters

[buoyant comet]

I'm expecting us to get gunkrook flashback only

[shadow knoll]

elbaf is ending in 25 chapters maximum

[cosmic hamlet]

Wanna bet?

[prisma yacht]

[cosmic hamlet]

Okay thats extreme, it will take atleast 30

[blazing mantle]

The flashback is over…

[cold steppe]

I think for the first time in one piece, the fights will be dealt with mid arc instead of in the conclusion

[cosmic hamlet]

More than 35 maybe

[shadow knoll]

granted Oda didn't blue ball with the WSJ Festa

[buoyant comet]

He was only able to match his power after he ate the DF. Plus I believe that Luffy rn is stronger than Rocks and Harald. I haven't seen a feat from them that's as impressive as Bajrang gun 🤷‍♂️

[ashen perch]

why wouldnt we get Loki's own flashback? this Loki obsession for Luffy started from him wanting to learn more about Shanks and his encounter with Loki

we'll get it eventually, its just not important at this moment

[cosmic hamlet]

Loki own flashback is good but should have clubbed together

[ashen perch]

give it some time, and ignore Oda, he didnt mean it

[shadow knoll]

exactly

[ashen perch]

the arc is not ending anytime soon

[shadow knoll]

depends if he meant it ornot

[buoyant comet]

I don't feel like it's that important though

[shadow knoll]

it's either gonna be 25-ish chapters or around 100 chapters

[cosmic hamlet]

Oda didn't indicate anything in festa that elbaf will end in 2026

[shadow knoll]

nowhere in between

[iron oriole]

Pre DF Loki

[buoyant comet]

We might get a scene where Loki talks with nami about Lola

[shadow knoll]

!speedreader

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/164971940648321024/535148418100887562/Lightspeedread.png

[ashen perch]

eh it was to Luffy

[buoyant comet]

But I'm not expecting a flashback for it

[iron oriole]

After he ate the DF, he absolutely destroyed Harald

[ashen perch]

it doesnt have to be some 10 chapter deal, just 2-3 chapters

[cosmic hamlet]

Okay, but are you not confident with gunko flashback in elbaf for a bet?

[shadow knoll]

Oda literally said elbaf gonna end soon, and they gonna go to whatever island in 2026

[cosmic hamlet]

Okay?

[ashen perch]

I am yeah, we will get both flashbacks

[pseudo gulch]

Can we not have any more flashbacks in Elbaf please

[cosmic hamlet]

Show me

[cosmic hamlet]

Are you okay for a bet then?

[buoyant comet]

They're just pushing each other, I don't think neither of them showed their true power. I don't see a shred of haki on this scene so it's just his basic physical strength

[cosmic hamlet]

Same wager

[formal wagon]

we need more

[glacial bear]

I’m excited to see the man marked by flames

And it’s gonna be Panda D. Man

[pseudo gulch]

We definitely need the giant sword's flashback

[buoyant comet]

I don't disagree but before he ate it he knew that he couldn't defeat or match Harald powrer. It's the reason why he ate it in the first place

[golden valley]

Blackbeard on top

[glacial bear]

Elbaph with a sword? Mihawk upscale

[cosmic hamlet]

This is a matter of reading comprehension. The ending is about the flashback

[glacial bear]

“WALLAHI MU IS FINISHED!!!”

[iron oriole]

Haki blast was in the page before, unless you want to say this isn't Harald & Loki clashing

[shadow knoll]

so they gonna go to whatever island mid elbaf?

[buoyant comet]

I believe when the arc ends and Luffy invites him to the crew, well have a whole chapter of dialogue with the straw Hats where Loki talks about his connection with shanks as well as his marriage proposal to Lola. I'm willing to bet he will also open up about mosa too.

[formal wagon]

MANDATORY FLASHBACKS LEFT IN ELBAF

JARUL/ JORUL FLASHBACK

VOID CENTURY
sorry for caps

God valley from imu's perspective
eustass backstory

1. noland flashback (inside the jarul/ jorul flashback)
2. Ragnir flashback
3. second loki flashback (meeting shanks or whatever)
4. Gunko/ brook flashback

W formatting

formatting so good it killed chat ❤️

[cosmic hamlet]

Oh that? Thats laugh tale dummy. You saying luffy will reach laughtale in 2026?

[formal wagon]

formatting so good it killed chat ❤️

[shadow knoll]

alright

it's loadstar gng

[formal wagon]

vira

[ashen perch]

Eh its unnecessary, too many bets already

[buoyant comet]

Nah I stand corrected mb

[formal wagon]

eh

[spiral sapphire]

who else thinks the Ice his lokis ability?

[vernal ravine]

jarul jorul flashback goes hard but oda ain't doing that

[cosmic hamlet]

Okay i will give you one flashback only. Take it or leave it

[cold steppe]

He said only the pirate king reached it. I doubt it's lodestar

[formal wagon]

we'll get it in vira because jorul is joining

[formal wagon]

i have to pick?

[cosmic hamlet]

Alright, i understand

[cold steppe]

I think it's laugh tale. But in a flashback

[formal wagon]

but it comes true?

is this real

[cold steppe]

It's not that luffy will reach it

[shadow knoll]

just start a weekly spin off where we just read flashbacks

[formal wagon]

I ipck the eustass backstory

[buoyant comet]

Whats Noland connection with jarul

[cosmic hamlet]

Maybe maybe not

[formal wagon]

GOOD QUESTION. just that they were alive at the same time lol

[ashen perch]

Yeah I can see this for sure

[formal wagon]

W THEORY

[buoyant comet]

If Harald was alive they could have met at Mary Geoise at the time

[formal wagon]

harald wasn't alive while noland was

Jarul and Jorul would have been like little kids

like loki when he meets rocks

[buoyant comet]

Hence why I said "if".

[native seal]

calgara's descendant is luffy i just cant prove it yet

[cosmic hamlet]

Okay but jarul lived for more than 300 years, its not fair comnection

[formal wagon]

who is they

[cosmic hamlet]

Its kalgara, its weird looking at it with C

[formal wagon]

i don't understand what you're saying

[formal wagon]

isn't this a Gibblegob theory?

[cosmic hamlet]

they were alive at the same time

Meanwhile jarul lived for more than 300 years where 10 generations occur in human life

[grand flower]

So Ragnir can manifest storms

[buoyant comet]

Oh I'm an idiot

I need to kms lowkey

[formal wagon]

i'm so fucking confused

[buoyant comet]

Dw I misunderstood I'm the idiot 😭

[cosmic hamlet]

I read what you deleted

[mighty quarry]

Why do you love feet?

[buoyant comet]

They is Harald and Noland 😭😭😭

[cosmic hamlet]

Because i can kick people with it

[mighty quarry]

Makes sense

[formal wagon]

I'm saying noland flashback is going to be in the jarul/ jorul flashback because they were alive at the same time so they met

[buoyant comet]

I'm a dumbass forgive my Idiocracy

[formal wagon]

no worries

[prisma yacht]

He's kinky

[cosmic hamlet]

Its okay, did you join recently?

Are you an alt?

Are you a banned user?

[buoyant comet]

Yeah and what I meant is that if Harald was alive at the time, he could have met with Noland on the reverie since they both visited it.

[cosmic hamlet]

How long ago was the noland flashback?

[buoyant comet]

I plead the 5th amendment

[formal wagon]

400ish years ago, we dont get an exact date

but we know jarul is 408 years old

[cosmic hamlet]

Oh he is more than 400?

I thought he is only 300+

[cosmic hamlet]

Even if it happened 400 years ago, jarul is like 8 years old

[distant vine]

People are gonna love this one lol

[formal wagon]

yeah

[cosmic hamlet]

@vital heart did you write this T/N?

What does zen mean?

[vernal ravine]

jarul grandfather met joyboy

[distant vine]

Damn it looks like I'll have to take the L here

Fine, at the castle Loki was stronger than Shanks...

[cosmic hamlet]

Current shanks?

[golden valley]

Why did u think otherwise…

[buoyant comet]

Chill don't let Socrates see this

[cosmic hamlet]

Okay you are definitely an alt

[prisma yacht]

Cyg the detective

[buoyant comet]

😮‍💨...

[distant vine]

Well that settles it. Garling cares

[deep chasm]

yup

[distant vine]

Oh no Current Shanks slams, I'll hold my ground there

[deep chasm]

shamrock might just love his life then

[buoyant comet]

Top 5 fathers on One Piece

Legitimately excluding Kuma, is there a better father than Garling?

[cosmic hamlet]

I mean, its obvious 14 years ago loki is stronger than 14 years ago shanks.

However i think loki growth was mostly stagnant after that where as shanks grew alot

[prisma yacht]

Great father who killed their children's mother so that he can love them all by himself ♥️

[distant vine]

Actually is this the first time we've seen Garling smile?

[golden valley]

Maybe not anymore. Garling probably disowned Shanks because of his decision

[deep chasm]

maybe he did back in god valley idk

[cosmic hamlet]

Also 14 years for shanks and 14 years for loki is different because giants live long and grow slowly

[deep chasm]

well yea maybe not anymore, but I think theres been debates about what kind of father garling is

[golden valley]

This chapter is motivation for shanks to grow too

[deep chasm]

so garling is probably a great father to shamrock

[distant vine]

Huffing LMAO

[buoyant comet]

The mother was being negligent. She deserved to get slimed for not taking utter care of her children 😮‍💨 She even had the audacity to hide them from their biological father

[distant vine]

Ugh stop this is such a Loki upscale

Socrates is gonna be like "He damaged Imu and distressed him"

[cosmic hamlet]

Idk, is this considered smiling?

[cold steppe]

Silhouette piece keeps getting more silly each chapter

[cosmic hamlet]

[barren token]

hey everyone what did we think of the chapter? ;)

[buoyant comet]

Don't worry though this chapter gave us something we can use against Socrates

[prisma yacht]

he left her

[vernal ravine]

when he told the gorosei he found something in god valley he was smiling

big rat

[cosmic hamlet]

Zoro should given his inhaler to imu

[distant vine]

Uh oh

[golden valley]

Socrates in spoiler chat was arguing this to be Joyboy tier if not better.

[cosmic hamlet]

He already probably did in spoiler channel but I can't prove because its hidden now

[barren token]

hey everyone what did we think of the chapter?

[buoyant comet]

It was off screened but she threatened to kill the kids if Garling didn't buy her 3 mansions on Mary Geoise

[cosmic hamlet]

Thats a smirk

[golden valley]

chapter is whatever“peak” is

[cosmic hamlet]

People are happy that flashback ended apparently

They want luffy vs imu

[golden valley]

Ofc

[buoyant comet]

I was gonna say nobody is gonna indulge a piss drinker but you just had to reply 🥀

[distant vine]

Welp we're back. Kinda feels weird to see him again lol

[alpine trench]

i missed luffy so much

my GOAT

[buoyant comet]

Luffy ❤️

[cosmic hamlet]

I didn't check the name, i only read content

Luffy has a necklace?

[buoyant comet]

We could have shamed him together

[cosmic hamlet]

I'm new to this channel, don't know some regulars here still

[distant vine]

I got to see Zoro and Chopper again ❤️

[cosmic hamlet]

What about sanji?

[distant vine]

He was here.

[buoyant comet]

You are forgiven by a user who joined 2 days ago

[alpine trench]

loved garling's gaslighting attempt at shanks and how shanks perceived it as a negative from the get-go, now driven deep with regret

[cosmic hamlet]

Gaban going back to fight?

[alpine trench]

sanji carrying gaban with chopper was cute

[buoyant comet]

Wdym gaslighting

[cosmic hamlet]

You left and joined back but still not even a month since account creation, whats your previous name

What a shit quality from tcb, meek should quit for this

[deep chasm]

I wonder if its even possible Garling faced some slander in the holy land due to shanks

[olive sigil]

I think he just wants to watch

[deep chasm]

and maybe he became a worse father to shamrock after

[alpine trench]

he's just driven by such deep guilt

[deep chasm]

only more confirmation he intentionally lost the arm

should no longer be any cope about that tbh

[alpine trench]

ever since i saw that brand earlier i knew it

[cosmic hamlet]

He might involve if his son is in danger

[deep chasm]

exactly

[alpine trench]

also, imu's thoughts on harald and elbaf are interesting

[olive sigil]

But I doubt he joins the fight

[buoyant comet]

Shanks literally lived a tough life before he joined the HKs. He was literally surrounded by criminals and groomed by Roger to become a pirate. You can't tell me that Shanks didn't have a hard time growing up. Roger was literally forcing him to train so hard at the age of 13 that he had shanks begging him to let him rest

[lime terrace]

Break next week again? 😭

[distant vine]

I love being right...

[deep chasm]

Its just funny cuz there was never a strong reason why the idea was bad

[olive sigil]

Welcome to breakuary

[deep chasm]

people just didnt like the idea that this new answer would fit into powerscaling better

[buoyant comet]

Snodlop

[lime terrace]

I thought Zoro and Sanji would've already been up there, guess Loki speaking like Eminem

[deep chasm]

we romanticizing bad powerscaling out here

[alpine trench]

i'm not indulging in this bait you can think whatever you want

[cosmic hamlet]

He will at some point to save his son, may not he involved with big guys but maybe with those monstors from dreams or DR'ed ones

[cold steppe]

He only told the story about harald possession and death

[buoyant comet]

It's not bait 🥀

[cold steppe]

Not the entire flashback we saw

[buoyant comet]

It's a joke but not bait 😞

[alpine trench]

yeah buddy like i believe it

[cosmic hamlet]

Where are you getting these low quality panels from?

[deep chasm]

Luffy in the back of his mind
"No way this dude beat someone shanks couldnt"

[lime terrace]

Isnt this kinda confirm that the D is the people of the ancient kingdom? Just like there is celestial dragon

[olive sigil]

I think the involvement will be more in a saving perspective rather than an extended fight

[barren token]

I didn't like how it fit into shanks sacrifice in chapter 1 not everything is powerscaling

[olive sigil]

Loki told the whole flashback in 5 minutes without breathing

[cosmic hamlet]

I can see that, i also want saul to come back

I already forgot what happened to saul

[olive sigil]

Taken out by Sommers

[urban lodge]

Currently dying

[barren token]

"why are you crying Luffy it's just an arm, also I needed to get rid of it because it had evil magic in it anyway"

[urban lodge]

But he'll be fine of course

[cosmic hamlet]

Oh yeah

[cosmic hamlet]

Imagine if he was brought back only to kill again

[prisma yacht]

Pong

[deep chasm]

Not everything is powerscaling, but like I do think thats lowkey half the reason people dont like it. Yall got used to telling people theyre too powerscaling pilled for wondering how shanks lost the arm, so now those people seem reasonable for wondering it cuz there was an actual reason

[cosmic hamlet]

85% laww?

[prisma yacht]

[cosmic hamlet]

I was just curious what does 85% laww mean

[deep chasm]

Yea its not as big of a sacrifice, it does make more sense tho

[buoyant comet]

Why are people susssing me out so much today

Am I that suspicious

[prisma yacht]

yes

[buoyant comet]

I'm just a friendly guy I have no ulterior motives

[prisma yacht]

Sure

[olive sigil]

It’s how close to having a confirmation that law is dead

[prisma yacht]

We will see about that

[cosmic hamlet]

You would have come out clean on who you are if you don't have ulterior motive

[deep chasm]

it doesnt rlly mean anything. I think there was some one piece quiz which told you which character you were most like, and I got 85% of a certain character, so I just put 85% in front of my usual name

[cosmic hamlet]

[prisma yacht]

An account created a few days back

[cosmic hamlet]

I was wondering why you didn't comment on it

[cosmic hamlet]

Thats neat, are you a law fan in general?

[olive sigil]

Wait you’re cygneto

[buoyant comet]

I guess I'll die as a suspicious man

[cosmic hamlet]

Yeah, i lost bet to arsal for nickname change

[olive sigil]

Ew

[olive sigil]

I thought you were arsal

[deep chasm]

well hes not my favorite character but he is pretty cool

[grand flower]

@olive sigil I’m still in the game

[cosmic hamlet]

[prisma yacht]

Oh yeah lmao the going back to present one

[olive sigil]

Do you want to be taken out of the game?

[barren token]

And I'd rather the emotion of the scene remain intact even if it doesn't make much sense later on

[cosmic hamlet]

I guess arsal is popular in feet category? 😭

[prisma yacht]

Jahahahhaa serves you right

[grand flower]

Nah

[olive sigil]

Then don’t do this

[cosmic hamlet]

[grand flower]

Huhhh

[buoyant comet]

I can assure you that I wasn't banned at the very least. But I cannot reveal anything other than that

[olive sigil]

The rules state you can’t comment on the results of the game until I’ve announced them

[prisma yacht]

[cosmic hamlet]

Why did you think i was using this name till now?

[grand flower]

Lolol my bad

[prisma yacht]

I thought you let ur freaky thoughts out

[cosmic hamlet]

How many messages you had in your previous account

[buoyant comet]

Lemme check

[deep chasm]

well I fear its just the truth of the matter now

[cosmic hamlet]

I will only stay in this channel until my name is changed back

[buoyant comet]

I'm on my phone so I can't actually see how many messages I sent. All I know is that it's more than 1k

[barren token]

well I fear oda is a hack

[buoyant comet]

Oh so part of the bet is you can't access manga chat

[cosmic hamlet]

Imagine not knowing how to change this in settings

[buoyant comet]

That's smart

[cosmic hamlet]

No?

[buoyant comet]

Uhhhhh you can?

[cosmic hamlet]

I just don't want to go to other channels with this name

[prisma yacht]

😭

[buoyant comet]

Hmm I see

[olive sigil]

Not being allowed in manga is not a punishment

[buoyant comet]

Anyways um lemme go try and change this on settings

[cosmic hamlet]

Settings > appearance > scroll all the way to bottom

[buoyant comet]

Mercy 🫡

[cosmic hamlet]

But I'm muted in spoiler channel for like 7 or 8 weeks

[olive sigil]

You’re muted in spoilers chat forever

You can’t even look at the channel

Or spoilers in any way

[cold steppe]

How nice

[buoyant comet]

4.5k messages gulp...

[runic dock]

I’ll spoil you if you want

[prisma yacht]

He can lurk

[runic dock]

Oh ok

[olive sigil]

Woah don’t do that

[runic dock]

You don’t want next chapters spoilers already?

[olive sigil]

I don’t

[runic dock]

Well too bad check your DM

[olive sigil]

Offer that one more time and no more Earl

[runic dock]

Made you look

[olive sigil]

I get a ping when someone sends me a message

I didn’t need to look

[runic dock]

Damn technology

[cosmic hamlet]

I can look at it, just can't chat

[ocean sigil]

NILFHEEIIMM !!

LETS GOO

[cosmic hamlet]

Not many

[ocean sigil]

Finally we're back

[pseudo gulch]

Did you lose a bet lol

[runic dock]

I hope loki has more elemental attacks

[pseudo gulch]

Also why do you love feet

[olive sigil]

No you can’t

[ocean sigil]

NILFHEIM IS THE REALM OF THE DEAD

[cosmic hamlet]

I have view access

[pseudo gulch]

We're finally seeing what Loki can do in real time 🥹

[olive sigil]

You don’t

[ocean sigil]

HE CAN USE THE POWER OF ALL 9 REALMS OF MIDGARD

[ocean sigil]

We're so so back

[runic dock]

[prisma yacht]

He's a shameless loser

[pseudo gulch]

Do you think that's because of his fruit or because of the hammer?

[cosmic hamlet]

Okay, i will stop looking at spoilers till my mute

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-dance-dancing-cat-cat-dance-cat-party-disco-gif-6965183018436888405

[runic dock]

Fruit imo , since th last two attacks were realm names

And he used the hammer for them

[olive sigil]

Till the end of one piece

[runic dock]

He did other stuff in his own form

[cosmic hamlet]

Yes, with arsal

[prisma yacht]

It's time for loki usopp and Hajrudin dynamic
LETSSFUCKINGGOOOO

[buoyant comet]

I may or may not have added a few extra Ks

[pseudo gulch]

It makes sense yeah

[cosmic hamlet]

@pseudo gulch i lost 2 different bets.

One got me muted in spoiler channel and another is this nickname

[visual talon]

I FUCKING KNEW IT, THE STRAW HAT IMU HAS IS FROM A GIANT

[buoyant comet]

I can't wait for the Luffy and Loki dynamic

[pseudo gulch]

Of course he gave you a name involving feet

What were the bets?

[prisma yacht]

Meh

[buoyant comet]

What were the bets

[cold steppe]

I doubt it's the fruit. The chapter is called ragnir

[runic dock]

Also, when loki was still in seastone , his hammer was still able to use lightning

I think that’s the better evidence

[cold steppe]

It's definitely the hammers powers

[cosmic hamlet]

Maybe if i like being spoiler free in these 7 or 8 weeks

[grand flower]

Ratatoskr travels the world tree

Nilfheim is a land of cold

So Ragnir probably has 9 things it can do, one for each realm

[buoyant comet]

Have you seen 2 yonko lvl characters slay together before?

[ocean sigil]

Like father and son

[runic dock]

Makes sense

[pseudo gulch]

Wouldn't that point towards it being the hammer rather than his fruit?

[cosmic hamlet]

One is that spoilers will be out early last week.

Another is that loki flashback will continue after the castle incident

[runic dock]

Yeah that’s what I said

[pseudo gulch]

Oh I meant Loki's fruit lol

My bad

[prisma yacht]

Do you mean slayyy😩💅 slay or slay👎⚔️ slay

[buoyant comet]

Id love to make a bet with you considering your track record

[ocean sigil]

I cry once again for, this time for a man named Loki

[pseudo gulch]

Here

[buoyant comet]

The first

[prisma yacht]

Mm I'm interested then

[runic dock]

I still mean it points toward the hammer which has its own fruit yeah

Mythical

[buoyant comet]

This might actually be a perfect description of Haralds character

[cosmic hamlet]

I have won many before lol, winning and losing is part of bet. I often make bets to keep things interesting.

I don't care what type of bet as long as I'm interested

[ocean sigil]

Sacrificing everything for his country.. a true Hero

[buoyant comet]

As long as your interested I see

Well I'm a chronic gambler, I'm sure I'll end up making a bet with ya sometime

[cosmic hamlet]

#also-manga message

Arsal one is the second one

[runic dock]

Whatever Loki himself can do is claw related , and I’m sure he got other powers too, but I bet he will show them more explicitly, like he loses the hammer and goes now let me show you what I can do lol

[ocean sigil]

What do you think this means?

What price has to be paid

Splitting his soul into fragments?

To create these soldiers ?

[buoyant comet]

I wouldn't necessarily call him a hero. His heart was in the right place but he wasn't a wise person at all.

[runic dock]

He’s talking about the blowback effect he just felt

It came at a price for him to lose an HK

[cosmic hamlet]

Sure, make sure to survive until then and not get banned

[ocean sigil]

I understood it more like with every HK he creates he pays a price

[ivory sonnet]

waited 20+ days for 13 page chapter peakkk

[cosmic hamlet]

And a break next week

[runic dock]

He splits off something from himself and he has a limit to it , tha much we know now , and if they die he actually feels hurt or suffers a consequence

[thick mango]

Don't worry you get to wait again

[runic dock]

So he’s not totally impervious

[ocean sigil]

He put his country and men interest over his own, and did everything to achieve it.. he was just too naive and trusted the WG

[runic dock]

It’s Horcruxes all over again

[prisma yacht]

Smh

[cosmic hamlet]

We got 13 pages in 4 weeks lol

[cold steppe]

I would say maybe he gets weaker, but then he chose to kill saturn himself so idk

[runic dock]

Well if he takes it away himself I’m sure that’s fine

It’s still going back to him

[cosmic hamlet]

More to come in march/april during live action release.

[runic dock]

That should be different

But if it’s snuffed out without him that’s pain

[cold steppe]

Yeah probably

[prisma yacht]

What

no

[ocean sigil]

Saturns failure might be the biggest lose he had since the void century.. I think from Imus perspective he deserved it

[ivory sonnet]

But we got to see imu trembling so Ig We should be satisfied .

[runic dock]

I mean that’s not the only reason I liked the last two chapters lol

[ocean sigil]

We got so many new Ds after Wano I love it

[latent hamlet]

Guys he's a good dad I swear

[runic dock]

Also I was right from many months ago , you still need a teleporter set at the destination you want to go to

[ocean sigil]

Better than Judge anyway

[runic dock]

You can’t just teleport anywhere Willy nilly

You need a teleporter set up

[latent hamlet]

Shanks: I wish for you to die

[buoyant comet]

He's patriotic sure but the love of his country came at the cost of people's lives. The dude made many evil deeeds for the WG because he wanted to give his country a comfy position and help the youth grow up on an environment that's not surrounded by violence. But in order to achieve that, he turned a blind eye to slavery and even protected the CDs on occasions. He basically served an authoritarian government and killed anyone they regarded to be criminal.

[stone terrace]

🐐

[runic dock]

Mfw when I’m still sexist racist and bigoted but I’m a good father

Just need a selfie in a truck

And he’s good

[ocean sigil]

This true I guess. His old habits were still alive, kill or be killed!

[latent hamlet]

Bro probably finished skewering 3 moms with his sword and is like "ugh I have to clean this up. O right I gotta pick up the milk for shanks"

[runic dock]

Garling definitely screams sunglasses in a truck selfie kind of type of dad

The kind that beats their wives

[ocean sigil]

Chat, what's better
This or "nothing happened "

[buoyant comet]

I think it's what makes him a compelling character. He's a good person doing bad decisions because he strives for peace. He was willing to get his hands dirty if it meant his people live in peace.

[prisma yacht]

He killed pirates

[cosmic hamlet]

Wdym no?

[prisma yacht]

That's the only "evil deed" which was shown

[prisma yacht]

no.

[stone terrace]

He himself said he was doing dirty jobs for the government

I doubt everyone he killed was evil

[cosmic hamlet]

Ehhh, well I'm happy that atleast now we are seeing imu limitations

[runic dock]

“Wife beater” Garling

[ocean sigil]

He was enabling the use of slave from other countries iirc.

[ocean sigil]

Literally killed her

[runic dock]

Yeah he was just told to believe they were I’m sure

[prisma yacht]

When was this

[runic dock]

Wife killer/beater Garling

There

[ocean sigil]

When he was shown around Mary Geoise

[ocean sigil]

Thank you

[stone terrace]

They werent married

[prisma yacht]

1167

[stone terrace]

This is slander

[prisma yacht]

Aight I'll check and come back later to you

[runic dock]

Woman he fucked once killer Garling

[cosmic hamlet]

So the teleporter in egghead was pre set up since its wg affiliated?

If it can be hidden like in egghead why didn't they hide in elbaf?

[runic dock]

Is that better

[prisma yacht]

Lmaooo

[stone terrace]

Yeah

Pump and dump

[cosmic hamlet]

Is he a better father than judge and yasopp?

[buoyant comet]

Nah he probably did evil stuff we don't know about yet realistically. Plus dude was on Mary goeise you can't tell me he didn't know about the slaves over there. He saw the WGs treatment to non affiliated nations and we'll whilst he let rocks go to god valley, he still turned a blind eye to the slaves over there.

[prisma yacht]

Prolly faked his love to her

[cosmic hamlet]

His hair is so good in this panel

[ocean sigil]

Ooh cute. A little brother trying to explain his older brother why he did bad things.

[buoyant comet]

Yes 😭

Lowkey though Garling reminded me of Trump during this chapter

[runic dock]

Oh regarding Saturn, that seemed to work differently , nothing there is confirmed but I would like to think he did it because of the extremely close range , from ship to shore , and btw they DID have one hidden in elbaf , it’s been in the room Harald died for 14 years until shamrock used it to show up recently

[prisma yacht]

I'm not mad at yasopp at all

[buoyant comet]

Only those 2 people can act like what they're doing is just

[runic dock]

Hmmmmm

[cosmic hamlet]

Lets not get political

[cosmic hamlet]

There was 4 shown in egghead when summoned other 4 elders

[buoyant comet]

Sure

[runic dock]

Just call him trucker selfie Garling

Same ffect

[ocean sigil]

For a moment I thought we get another flashback..

BTW how cool do sanji and zoro look here?!? Really missed my boys

[cosmic hamlet]

Wait the one in elbaf was hidden? I thought the teleport is not hidden in elbaf

[urban lodge]

I can't believe we're finally back to the present

At long last

[celest mauve]

is it bad that I have literally no interest in seeing those two

[prisma yacht]

Almost everyone in the verse knows about slavery you can't just point at him particularly for that
I mean you can but then blame every king as well

[runic dock]

It was in a room no one was allowed to go in , that had guards

[cosmic hamlet]

I'm only joking

[buoyant comet]

Bro I lowkey thought Loki had a mustache on your pfp 😭

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-dance-dancing-cat-cat-dance-cat-party-disco-gif-6965183018436888405

[ocean sigil]

No, you should just quit reading OP thats all

[celest mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-walk-of-shame-shame-shameful-head-down-gif-5548725

[cosmic hamlet]

I mean i know there is one, i just didn't know it was hidden like invisible to others

[prisma yacht]

Doffied baby loki

[runic dock]

It’s just that it was away from many eyes for a while , people kind of forgot about it or didn’t see it so therefore didn’t pay attention to it

Being in that room

[proud pivot]

So Loki went to sea with the guards

[celest mauve]

I will probably never feel this way again, but I'm much more interested in seeing usopp and what he does than zoro or sanji

[runic dock]

I agree , Usopp hammer soon

[ocean sigil]

Probably got beaten by Shiki and returned because only Shiki is strong enough left out there

[prisma yacht]

Hellyeahh

[buoyant comet]

He's actively working for the slavers. The Holy Knights job is to literally protect the CDs. It's not like he's just being associated with slavers, nah he's directly working under them and doing their evil biddings. I'm not going to blame all kings since most of them didn't go begging to the WG for a job.

[proud pivot]

Interesting thought for sake Usopp may lead the giants

[runic dock]

Shanks lied!!

[wet condor]

So I guess Harald told Gaban about some of his dealings with the Holy Knights. I now wonder if he was helping tell the flashback lol

[celest mauve]

nami too because I'm biased as fuck towards her, as well as luffy and loki

[wet condor]

We did see that one panel where Gaban and Ripley were with Harald

[ocean sigil]

He's a government rat, of course he lied

[proud pivot]

Damn forgot about that though

[wet condor]

So they traveled with him for a lil' while

[stone terrace]

Harald got a fitting death

Let this be a lesson to all of you

[ocean sigil]

Did we see this big mofo being pushed down to the underworld?

[celest mauve]

I do like the idea that he inspires the courage in them needed to fight the domi reversi'd giants

[buoyant comet]

A suspicious guy like me must not make a scene and obey the orders of his seniors 🙂‍↕️

[proud pivot]

Government Cheese Agenda

[runic dock]

We see a panel of it falling

[wet condor]

This is what happens when you lose sight of the goal

[urban lodge]

I'm interested in Zoro and Sanji because it's pretty much a guarantee at this point that Sanji gets coc, and Zoro is likely gonna tame Enma this arc. And Brook of course because of the Gunko stuff. Don't care about the other straw hats right now tho

[ocean sigil]

Do you remember the chapter? I'd like to see which time Hajrudin and rest are going up

[runic dock]

Since ragnir can float on its own , Usopp will act like he is wielding Ragnir , that’ll cause all the giants to bow to him

[proud pivot]

Fighting Domi reversi needs more mental will hope that Ussop lie motivates them

[prisma yacht]

If everyone acknowledges it
makes no difference for him as well

[runic dock]

I lowkey think it’s in the current chapter lol

[ocean sigil]

I think Brook will have a major role in defeating Imu because of his underworld connections. I hope..

[proud pivot]

So the three minutes explanation ended

[ocean sigil]

Oh lol

[wet condor]

And being overly gullible lol

[celest mauve]

I really dislike oda's clear bias for zoro and sanji over everyone else, that's probably also why I'm not interested in seeing what they do

[prisma yacht]

also he had a whole ass reason for the begging let's not pretend it was out of nowhere

[wet condor]

We talking about Usopp?

[cosmic hamlet]

These in egghead are either hidden or saturn created it very quickly at get go

[rapid ridge]

For the first time ever I've got a feeling the ending is coming

[ocean sigil]

Look at that little monkey climbing up

[wet condor]

I don't really care what he does. It can be good though since this is supposed to be the land that inspires him

[cosmic hamlet]

So you were banned before for making a scene?

[runic dock]

Other than Sanji getting CoC , we already know what they can do , I really want Usopp to show out soon , through lies through anything , bring god Usopp back

[rapid ridge]

After 15 years of reading it's the first time I feel like we're approaching the ending

[proud pivot]

Let's say he needs a pervert and a swordsman to continue one piece plot

[ocean sigil]

Maybe they have special authority to instantly summon others

[buoyant comet]

No it does because Harald wasn't forced to work or be associated with the WG. It's only when he started trading with other countries that he strived for Elbaf to be a WG member. Imo I'd rather not make international trade than work for slavers

[celest mauve]

yeah exactly

[rapid ridge]

I'm nostalgic

[proud pivot]

And we don't want one piece to end

[prisma yacht]

[buoyant comet]

Told you I wasn't banned but I did act like an asshole so I'm not proud of what I used to say.

[celest mauve]

he needs all of them lol, but they're the strongest after luffy and oda neglects the others in comparison as a result

[cosmic hamlet]

Yeah, I'm leaning towards level 3 contract being much closer to abyss so they have more privileges in teleportation compared to holy knights

[proud pivot]

Collateral damage

[runic dock]

Oh , you can create destination teleporters for others to arrive in , th point I was making was that you can’t just pop int a brand new far away location that had no teleporter set up at all , you need a guy over there already making a teleporter for you , which is what Saturn is doing in the pic you posted

[ocean sigil]

Cant wait to see his attack Asgard

[alpine trench]

this in the context of him meeting luffy just a few years later is so good

[cosmic hamlet]

Its okay, I'm just teasing you

[prisma yacht]

Yeah bcs its YOU and not a king of an ancient kingdom from opverse

[proud pivot]

Is ragnir element manipulative?

[remote maple]

mu

[runic dock]

Peak!! Shanks found his calling

[cosmic hamlet]

Oh thats obvious, otherwise why would imu ask harald to create a teleport in elbaf if they can just pop up anywhere

[ocean sigil]

I just know Nilfheim is one the nine realms of Midgard from the Norse mythology

[proud pivot]

Might some cheese in there

[gritty tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-aardman-cheese-cementpfp-food-gif-1859268831938666603

[proud pivot]

So still seven remaining

[ocean sigil]

8

[stone terrace]

So maybe ragnir can do moves based on all of the realms?

[strong wadi]

Alright, now we just need the reason Loki was brought back to elbaf by shanks and why Shanks wouldnt have freed him the latest time he came to elbaf

[golden valley]

Its pretty cool to see what Shanks developed into

[proud pivot]

I thought that lighting attack was one of them

[urban lodge]

Shanks felt a little silly

[proud pivot]

A rat

[buoyant comet]

I'm sorry I just don't see how it was necessary for Harald to make Elbaf a WG affiliated nation. 🤷‍♂️

[golden valley]

This chapter makes him way more interesting

[urban lodge]

He chained Loki up for 6 years as a prank

[ocean sigil]

Nilfheim, Muspelheim, Asgard, Vanaheim, Alfheim, and more but I cant remember the names

[cosmic hamlet]

The reason can be that he stopped loki from going after wg but it took him 8 years

[buoyant comet]

He wanted good rep and all but I don't think it was worth it if he had to work for people like the CDs

[cosmic hamlet]

"it took him 8 years" is for loki taking 8 years to go after wg

[ocean sigil]

9 realms in total, nilfheim one of them.. maybe he doesn't have the other realms and there is no connection.. but I think he'll somehow use multiple attacks with various effects

[proud pivot]

Oda will cook

Trust

[ocean sigil]

As always

[buoyant comet]

I'm just imagining Shanks pulling Loki by the collar to Elbaf rn 😭

[cosmic hamlet]

Maybe loki became a pirate to go after wg, by the time he was very close (which took him 8 years) shanks stopped him

[prisma yacht]

[proud pivot]

Still not sure that shanks stopped Loki

[ocean sigil]

I wonder why they looked like this

[cosmic hamlet]

Okay thats a good question, how did shanks carry loki to elbaf?

[proud pivot]

Maybe mostly Loki got imprisoned himself

[tawny panther]

he was never close since he said he never made it far enough on the seas to run into a HK which means he never got close to mariejois

[cosmic hamlet]

It was mentioned so i will go with that until its said otherwise in manga

[proud pivot]

True

[prisma yacht]

Him using a named attack on a fodder makes me believe he actually has multiple attacks so this might be true

[cosmic hamlet]

Shanks probably caught him when he was close to meeting them

A farfetched theory yeah but I'm out of options

[buoyant comet]

You are not slick socrates

[proud pivot]

Don't want to be anyways

[pulsar path]

That was a fun chapter

Thes break weeks killing me

[proud pivot]

It just started

[buoyant comet]

Wait till you find out there's another one

[cosmic hamlet]

Next week break

More breaks in march/april for LA. So brace yourself

[pulsar path]

That why I'm saying it like damn wtf

[tawny panther]

true I can see it

[buoyant comet]

The LA show is not even that good 😭

[pulsar path]

Wait why for the live action usually we get breakf or oda going in set

[tawny panther]

Loki finally reaches the red line then Shanks shows up

[buoyant comet]

Odas going to be dead by the time they reach punk hazard

[runic dock]

Elbaf is gonna end with imu almost winning but then suddenly he winces in pain OW OW OW!! what happened!?! A holy knight in mariejois just died!!!

Imu then leaves

It was bb

[prisma yacht]

holy cook

[ocean sigil]

No it will be Urouge to do the killing

[olive sigil]

Bb was the dead holy knight? Holy peak

[cosmic hamlet]

Its good enough, don't hate for no reason

[pulsar path]

I find it weird tho that Imu was like over the giants after Harold but than suddenly decides he does want the giants

[proud pivot]

Possibly as Saturn's death may or may not be known amongst the Celestial dragon so Catherina can help

[runic dock]

Smh my head

[cosmic hamlet]

Oda goes to US to watch it. It happened for season 1

[pulsar path]

Premiers are usually like a week before the release tho

[olive sigil]

Poor imu has had a tummy ache ever since Saturn died

[cosmic hamlet]

He did take 1 week break during season 1, so expect atleast 1 week

[runic dock]

Maybe this explains why wg left wano alone!!!

RYUMA KILLED AN HK

HOLY AURA

[pulsar path]

So probably to kill Imu you gotta break the contract on all the holy knights

[olive sigil]

That dragon was a holy knight?

[pulsar path]

Voldemort piece is real

[runic dock]

Could be , or just one of his many deeds

It WAS invaded for its gold at one point

And then never touched again

[olive sigil]

Ryuma killed one dragon and then retired

[buoyant comet]

I'm sowwy I just don't like it

[runic dock]

Ryuma killed an HK and bb is about to

Locked in

[pulsar path]

Shamrock vs BB?

[buoyant comet]

You cannot tell me that BB can kill a HK

[proud pivot]

So let's wait for deathly hallows

[buoyant comet]

He's not him bro he's not him

He couldn't even keep up with law and bepo

[pulsar path]

Holy nights ant really it

Uh lol

[olive sigil]

That family tree is so messed up

[buoyant comet]

That guy isn't killing a HK

[runic dock]

Well bb isn’t bitch made

[pulsar path]

He beat the crap out of law

[cosmic hamlet]

We atleast started to know the limitations of imu finally.

I think imu probably need some effort to summon like with gunko in elbaf or saturn in god valley.

Thats why only if needed imu summons

[runic dock]

You think bb purpose is to be weak?

[buoyant comet]

I'm talking about their Regen factor.

[runic dock]

Get real

[olive sigil]

So teach is a Marshall who’s secretly a Rocks who’s secretly a Davy who’s secretly a shimotsuki?

[buoyant comet]

Only 5 ppl rn can kill the HKs. And they are: Dragon, Loki, Luffy, Shanks, and Mihawk.

[proud pivot]

Bb is a renowned underdog he is powerful

[pulsar path]

BB would be like the one to be able to do it tho being able to absorb devils

[runic dock]

Gaban said acoc alone is enough to deal with it basically

[pulsar path]

All the context to why BB can beat holy knights is in his dialogue

[prisma yacht]

Mihawk

Insane sneak

[proud pivot]

He even wounded shanks before getting Yami yami no mi

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

[buoyant comet]

BBs acoc is beginner level

[olive sigil]

You need coc

[pulsar path]

BB doesn't need acoc

[buoyant comet]

Okay for the sake of the argument let's take Mihawk out

[pulsar path]

Abyss

[cosmic hamlet]

Shimotsuki?

Bb family name changed from marshall to rocks to davy

[proud pivot]

BB doesn't show his haki that has reasons

[cosmic hamlet]

It will be funny if it changes again

[buoyant comet]

Its an assumption that their Regen can be affected by bbs df tho

[pulsar path]

Xebec is a first name

[proud pivot]

He is son of xebec though

[prisma yacht]

Add bb in there

He's the end game

[olive sigil]

But apparently he’s also going to follow ryuma’s path. Earl said so

[cosmic hamlet]

Braindead moment, i meant rocks

[pulsar path]

It's pretty obvious that's what he can do with the what he said to ace that his powers absorb devils not devil fruits

[buoyant comet]

Shimotsuki are ryumas lineage

[cosmic hamlet]

He is not even a swordsman

[storm anvil]

I like how Shanks, Loki and Hajrudin are going "Harald was such a pure soul! the wg is our real enemy all along" and then the fandom is just "yeah he a bum lol"

[olive sigil]

Shimotsuki D Davy D Rocks D Marshall D Teach

[cosmic hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/fig-gif-26092737

[buoyant comet]

His powers just negate df abilities they don't even absorb powers or anything.

[buoyant comet]

Mb gang I thought you really didn't know with the question msrk

[runic dock]

We dunno that , bb is just built different , if he scarred shanks all the way back then already , then his acoc is not beginner level

[olive sigil]

He actually uses 3 swords

[runic dock]

He took quake fruit to the face

[cosmic hamlet]

My question mark is how is bb related to shimotsuki

[olive sigil]

Ask Earl

[pulsar path]

Read the bb vs ace fight in literal Japanese translation he doesn't say he can absorb devil fruit he said he has the power to absorb devils

[cosmic hamlet]

[outer flax]

Did Loki kill herald with his df or haki ?

[cosmic hamlet]

Let me read earl messages

[runic dock]

Lmao stopppp

[pulsar path]

BB fruit is a complete mystery tbh we don't know the limitations at all

[olive sigil]

His claw…

[buoyant comet]

I wasn't aware of this. But ya know what now I get what you're saying

[proud pivot]

Infusion

[olive sigil]

You started it

[remote maple]

mu

[buoyant comet]

If it really does absorb devil's then yah BB has a chance against the HKs and potentially Imu

[pulsar path]

BB says some really interesting thing to ace about it and his attack name is literally the abyss

Definitely connections to what ever power Imu is using I think!

[cosmic hamlet]

Lol

[outer flax]

Why was they hyping df then?

[runic dock]

That is not what I meant lmao

[golden valley]

My possible theories on Ragnir’s other realm attacks:

Ragnir Asgard Attack (realm of gods)—> Combined attack of all the others that seems godly.

Ragnir Midgard (human realm) —> Being able to alter size to human.

Ragnir Vanaheim (Vanir gods) —> Powers related to nature.

Ragnir Jötunheimr (giants) —> Increasing its size bigger than it already is.

Ragnir Alfheim (light elves) —> light powers.

Ragnir Svartalfheim/Niðavellir (dwarves/dark elves blacksmiths) —> Changing weapon types & maybe shrinking to even lesser sizes.

Ragnir Muspelheim (fire) —> Fire powers

Ragnir Helheim (realm of the dead) —> Maybe powers connected to the underworld like Brook? So soul-manipulation.

[remote maple]

what are yall thoughts on elbaf being of the D clan

[runic dock]

That’s another interesting part of the chapter

We don’t even know what it means yet

[buoyant comet]

Ah it was just because some guy said ryuma killed a hk. Idk why they'd be related because of that but he assumed that since bbs about to kill a kh then he's related to ryuma. I might be wrong but that's what I got from the context of the messages

[runic dock]

The only D tht is a giant we know is Saul and he wasn’t even born in Elbaf

[proud pivot]

Probably more reason along with haki to finish Harald.

Imu wheezed when Harald was killed and with Loki's Df and Ragnir combined attack also with haki the kill may be possible

[runic dock]

So what did imu mean

[cosmic hamlet]

You should like it because nami is cool in LA

[buoyant comet]

Isn't vanaheim like a lush forest?

[outer flax]

True.

[remote maple]

I think it means the original civilization on elbaf were all of the D clan and got wiped out?

[buoyant comet]

Actually Emily rudd is the only good thing on the show

I enjoy her tbh

[prisma yacht]

[proud pivot]

Just Imu declared D as Imu lost a HK.

Nothing other than that we know anything related to D clan in elbaf

[runic dock]

such a simp lol

[pulsar path]

Ragnir I think has acoc

[cosmic hamlet]

We don't even know if bb has CoC or he unlocked it. We already landing in this?

[pulsar path]

So like we get Loki infusing acoc and than Ragnir put acoc together

[buoyant comet]

I'm not ashamed of who I am

[pulsar path]

That should be powerful

[golden valley]

I think so, but the gods also have powers related to the sea, but I like nature better so I’ll change it

[remote maple]

their words exactly (at least to tcb) was "Elbaf is of the D."

[prisma yacht]

W maji I like it especially the size one

[buoyant comet]

I'm pretty sure he used it against Law on Winner Island

[prisma yacht]

Usopp for ragnir lesfuckiinnggoooo

[runic dock]

A hammer using haki I think is not possible it has to be alive originally , unless it’s a squirrel that ate a hammer fruit lol

[buoyant relic]

!speedreader

[cosmic hamlet]

I can see ryuma killing a HK

So zoro will kill a HK to surpass ryuma

[buoyant relic]

!speedread

[prisma yacht]

?

[buoyant comet]

Lit

[buoyant relic]

wheres the command

[cosmic hamlet]

You are based

[proud pivot]

Yeah still it's unclear why it was mentioned like does it mean actions also lead to D clan?

Or just having D in their name

[buoyant comet]

[runic dock]

Maybe first king was D?

[buoyant relic]

im just trying to find the command

[prisma yacht]

You made me forget

[buoyant relic]

lol

[pulsar path]

I think zoan could have haki for sure if they have have wills and isn't that literally what haki is

[cosmic hamlet]

Don't include me, i like nami role in LA because she has good fighting scenes which is not there in east blue manga

[buoyant comet]

D King

[remote maple]

it could be elbaf was part of D somehow, maybe affiliated? it's sorta vague

[buoyant comet]

Da King

[cosmic hamlet]

He didn't

[runic dock]

Hmmmm okayyyy

[prisma yacht]

!speedreader

See

I forgot

[buoyant comet]

Da King Imus DaDa

[wet condor]

If he has all this, this fruit is crazy lol

[cosmic hamlet]

Bot is down I think

[runic dock]

Perhaps …it would be the first ever , and it would prove something scientifically too , I hope vp watches

[wet condor]

Like deadass might be the best fruit outside of maybe Luffy's awakened

[proud pivot]

Possible. Still it's like others the giants also have D in there name as well.

Just unsure.

Hope the answers are in heaven realm of elbaph

[runic dock]

Every giant is a D and they don’t even know

Crazy

[clever idol]

Saul did

[remote maple]

does anyone besides sual have any connections to elbaf that are D clan?

[clever idol]

And hes not rven an elbaphian

[finite oak]

Sabo still holding onto luffy's vivre card for when things go wrong in case you guys forgot

[olive sigil]

My theory of Jaguar D Hajrudin might turn out to be

[runic dock]

He wasn’t from elbaf

[buoyant comet]

Was about to go into a frenzy about how it's so obvious that BB has conq, but then I remembered that I actually hate him and I don't have to force myself to do this.

[runic dock]

Which makes Imu’s words interesting

The only giant known isn’t even from there

[clever idol]

I just said that lol

[runic dock]

Oh sorry lol

[proud pivot]

True it's vague.

So far only known that Giants are special and worth enough to consume the legendary devil fruit

[buoyant comet]

No but I'm pretty sure Loki's gonna be a clan of d members

[cosmic hamlet]

Are you saying hajrudin is not harald son?

[proud pivot]

Ain't entire one piece is crazy?

[buoyant comet]

Hajrudin is a bastard

Probably took his mother's name

[runic dock]

Real

[cosmic hamlet]

Ida is not from elbaf though to have jaguar family name

[golden valley]

Wait, what if a “Svartalfheim” named attack allows Ragnir to change its weapon type, since it seems that its related to blacksmiths where legendary weapons were formed

[proud pivot]

Jaguar D Saul is the only one so far named as D in giants.

It's possible that Ancient giants are D clan

[buoyant comet]

But is Saul confirmed to be from Elbaf though? He might have been an immigrant too. Okay nah nvm I'm doing too mucj

[wraith mantle]

Chapter kinda mid no?

[remote maple]

no it's good

[wraith mantle]

I see

[clever idol]

Neither is saul

[proud pivot]

In what way though

[cosmic hamlet]

We never got the family name of harald or loki right?

[remote maple]

Imu yapping = peak

[wraith mantle]

Rate it out it 10

[proud pivot]

Facts

[strong wadi]

One Piece readers too smart 😔 We already figured this all out. This is the big thing coming from the chapter

[wraith mantle]

For a 3 week wait it was a bit underwhelming

[cosmic hamlet]

[cosmic hamlet]

Are you sure?

[remote maple]

I'd give it a 7.5

[final trench]

I think whatever giants of the D clan migrated out of elbaf to hide

[proud pivot]

Yep we just only got the data that D clan is in elbaph by Imu so far.

[wraith mantle]

Imu is tweaking way too early

[golden valley]

It does suck its break week

[clever idol]

Yes Saul himself said he isnt to robin in her flashback

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/hey-arnold-stoop-afraid-to-leave-gif-3469000

[proud pivot]

Welcome to one piece break schedule

[golden valley]

Especially to end on this chapter

[final trench]

Imu cant leave the castle

[wet condor]

Too bad break weak this week

[final trench]

Aslong as the gorosei and HK are alive

[cosmic hamlet]

It just means that the entire island is affiliated with joyboy

[cosmic hamlet]

Ohhh

[ashen perch]

well there wasnt a 3 week wait officially

[olive sigil]

I’m saying Ida is Saul’s sister

[proud pivot]

They do know the sun god and we know that giant straw hat in marijoe.

Yeah they are

[final trench]

True, but we never got haralds full name 🤔

Maybe he didnt know he was a D

[cosmic hamlet]

You are right, i stand corrected

[clever idol]

Nepo piece at it again

[proud pivot]

Harald D Bum

[final trench]

Or it was purely outta joyboy affiliation

[cosmic hamlet]

Yeah, someone just corrected me that saul is also not from elbaf so possible

[ashen perch]

Ida and Saul are both from the South Blue too

[cosmic hamlet]

Yep

[final trench]

👀

[cosmic hamlet]

You are actually right here, you just didn't stick with it and left it too soon

[final trench]

Yea he couldve just left elbaf because he didnt like their mentality

[buoyant comet]

[cosmic hamlet]

Why is she naked

[buoyant comet]

Since he's evil he ordered her

[final trench]

Lmaoo i remember this

“What if luffy was evil”

[buoyant comet]

What if the grass was green ahh video

[rose rune]

look at my boy Imu, huffing just to pretend he's tired

[strong wadi]

Sanji Observation feat

[buoyant comet]

Translation so ass wdym chopper said you make a good point to what gaban just said

[cosmic hamlet]

[strong wadi]

it just means with everything going on, chopper forgot about what was going up above

backstory was too engaging

[final trench]

Facts

[cosmic hamlet]

He yapped about this for 16 mins?

[final trench]

They came back to hear it

[final trench]

I guess so

Mustve been intriguing