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lolll
Pushing 30
its the 11th still
officially pushing 30
12th hasnt reached the east coast but
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wild
hbd
youre closer to robin's age tho
its ok im joining u in 4 months
so it cant really be over yet
but yea.
I'm still cool and hip relax
im excited to witness the final war chapters
On the note of birthdays what yall got
its gonna be sick
Join Bon Clayās crew
Wish it was a better character selection but yea
I still got 6-7 years till I can no longer keep up with the younglings
When you started one piece you saw Robin as this cool mother like figure
Now, years later, Robin is just a woman your age š
Get robbed by Law šš
real question, are you quitting one piece translation because of the community or is it moreso because you wanna move on to other opportunities?
Thank you for your translation services gang š
fairfair
this is so real
so elbaf is the cutoff
As in are you out of OP or will you still be reading and just not involved in the com
bruh
lmao
Bro
im gonna be reading still
I thought the ban shit was on serious shit
son
Shared a good meal with Ace
I don't think there'd be a lot of sharing when he eats so much
shanks isnt an option for the second half, whats the pt

Iāve been saying this for 3 months now at least.
Yall just aint paying attention
meek i thought you gave up on morj
In the final war, every SH will have a fight or fights even and a major side plot of their own too
bros SERIOUS
what brought you back to morj's side
Mentioned this once a month
also whoās morj Iām not this educated
Why do you want to do this?
The people are not prepared for the final war to be like 250 chapters
Remember the raid will fail theory?
He was the guy responsible for its popularity
In Wano?
Yes
I havenāt seen him in years
But he makes shitty thumbnails
So I imagine I am not missing much
just watch Dawn Dusk
Defeating an emperor with Vivi ayyy W
There was one OPtuber I used to watch sometimes but he retired
The only OPTubers I watch is King Recon, Tekking101, Hidden Island, The Crap CafƩ, and Dawn & Dusk.
will of marco or something like that?
Otherwise Iām chilling in here for anything OP related
Sawyer7Mage
I mainly just use Discord for OP since active discussion the way to go usually
Emphasis on usually
dipping out before final war smh
I think it'll be more sh centric than wano
6-7 huh
I donāt think so but if it is Iāll be pleasantly surprised
sanji kicks his enemies because his shoes are tied using haki knots
Thatās a good one
https://fxtwitter.com/OrevaLuffy_/status/2010374787932332499 at least they added drawings to the slander
Oh!
Its true
Well I meant in terms of being like terminally online (that's already dropped to like 50% of what it was), but I'll still be around
Youāre doing a pretty good job of it with this one
Lmao
67 genuinely gets to me
Is 6-7 still in, I haven't been very active lately
Iāve got just enough brain rot
I'll keep saying it because its still funny to me
Itās in with me
I can tell you that much
All that matters tbh, half my jokes only pop me anyways š
How unfortunate
Haki monkey knot is coming 
What
Basically how the only strawhat that will participate is Luffy. Brook too if Gunko is being fully resolved this arc.
it's truly so funny how oda has spent this flashback hammering in that only ACoC can deal with WG immortality, while knowing full-well that only luffy and zoro out of 10 SHs can use it
I guess not
also peep the Loki avatar 600 robux right there
and also that loki and gaban (both injured) are the only other people on the island who have it on the good side
Loki can probably find a way it seems like he's going to be everyone's only hope
Swear this looks awfully similar to Elbaph
Elbaph will be destroyed by the end of the arc I can't wait for the dressrosa effect
Franky foreshadowed it years ago 
franky will destroy elbaf
he was supposed to destroy egghead too
theres a lab in elbaf, surely..
Vegapunk told him to spare the inhabitants and marines so he let off a little bit
Whats the dressrosa effect
It was flattened
looks more like a pizza to me
pizza pasta put it in a box
it even has that white holder thing in the middle
and the stuffed crust
This looks like a good pizza
The eggs are a little crazy but the rest of it isnt that bad
Have you seen a Brazilian pizza?
Eggs?
Yes
i never see the pizza table anymore
idk what you are talking about we have regular pizza here
Ew thereās an olive
nothing irregular here
Am I the only one who doesnāt like sprinkles
@formal wagon are you back?
Youāre supposed to be regular mailbox
yall didnt see that
yes I did
Man
what
Can you mind your business please
The absolute nerve to talk to someone like that
fist day in america
Itās like young people donāt know what respect is at all
Iām actually kind of sick of these break weeks, Iāve forgotten what one piece is
Girl do i have a story to tell you
What even is this server? Who is Luffy? What is a strawhat??
Oda could learn a thing or two from you
met an old woman yesterday, she said younger kids should greet the elders with respect (i didnt greet her), i told her she doesnt add anything of value to my network
That is so rude
Societies have respected and honored elders for centuries
i think "luffy" is a type of gourd
Youāre thinking of loofah
Luffy is the name of a taffy candy
Itās like a swimsuit I think
It isn't
Luffy is big moms laffy taffy themed son
laffy taffy laff tale holy shit
Laughtale? Luffytale
i see it still
but not all stores has em now
pretty sure dominos still has em
just saw that shamrock VA reveal
Shouldn't it be the same as shanks
Aloha,
Can you imagine the Straw Hats receiving support from at least some of the Marines?
High-ranking Marines like Smoker, Tashigi, Fujitora, Koby, Garp, and a few others have realized that Luffy isn't just an ordinary pirate, but someone who helps the helpless.
Smoker has been rescued by them twice, and Fujitora already helped them a bit in Dressrosa.
Maybe against Imu or Blackbeard. It could be an interesting plot twist.
is this meek
The aloha is frying me
The return of meek
yeah the fucking aloha
Aloha,
Hi meek
Is that a meek thing?
Only meek says aloha
Hi meek
Why is Nami a pirate? Is it out of obligation for what Luffy and the others did? She amongst everyone else in the crew seems like she'd best fit for the marines
Oh wait thatās me
Really? Shes the one who loves stealing and treasure the most lol
Sheās not just any pirate, sheās a strawhat. The marines stole her money
yeah they were also corrupt and let arlong prey on her town
Embed fail
I guess we can thank Nezumi for why Nami was so disillusioned with the marines
It would be hard to consider her joining up with those willing to ignore Arlong and siding with him to keep the village terrorized
The way I see it if the strawhats didn't join up with Luffy
Zoro: bounty hunter
Sanji: chef
Usopp: pirate
Nami: Sword
Chopper: doctor
Robin: Scholar
Brook: pop star
Franky: Revolutionary
Jinbabe: Marine
Nami joined up with Luffy because heās Luffy
I donāt think you would have seen her join any other pirate crew with any sort of genuine interest in their wellbeing outside of the strawhats
But, thatās why theyāre strawhats
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Aloha!
Joining the marines is just out of the question for literally every Strawhat
I mean maybe Chopper could have been suckered into it, given how oblivious he was to the world, but that wouldnāt have lasted long
Aloha,
They all share Luffyās immense desire for individual freedom, have incredibly specific life goals that cannot be pursued while a marine, and many of them would be directly in opposition to the world government
Shit aināt even a question
Even if Nezumi wasnāt complicit with Arlong
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Cr34VOAG6CM
sounds a bit older than shanks
more edgy i guess
Kenjiro Tsuda, popularly known for voicing Kento Nanami in Jujutsu Kaisen, Overhaul (Kai Chisaki) in My Hero Academia, and Seto Kaiba in Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters, will be the voice actor for Shamrock. He has one of the most iconic deep and mature voices in the anime industry, the kind of voice that instantly makes a character feel powerful, compo...
Jinbe would still be a pirate
Hi meek
He became a warlord at first opportunity he wants to improve human Fishman relations
idk if things went better and the marines actually being good around her maybe nami would join the marines. Cause she had the example of bellmere who would still be alive
He'd look at John Giant and decide that that's what the fishpeople should do too
Zoro would be dead, Nami would be dead, Sanji would be dead, Ussop would be dead, Chopper would be dead, Robin would be dead, Franky would be dead, Brooke would be- is dead, Jinbei would be dead
They wouldnāt be alive without Luffy lol
Literally none of them
It's a shame Jinbabe isn't getting to hear Lokis flashback
Jinbe would be some dude in a prison
Jinbei would either still be in Impel Down OR dead
oda purposely dint send nami next to loki when they cameback from the castle
multiple reasons i guess
Is it because he smells?
He only wanted the monster trio down there
AND Chopper
the lola thing also

oda dint want nami to start remembering loki x lola history
Chopper arrived afterwards. When it was time for the monster trio to go up
Chopper will uncover the secret weakness of immortality
it seems like the lola stuff just getting dropped maybe? Or at least not dealt with now?
Heāll cure scooper
I wouldnāt say that yet
tbf i guess for oda it would be a premature revelation if nami starts asking loki about lola
Weāre amidst a military incursion from the primary antagonist of the entire series
Scopper isn't immortal he can die like anyone else. He is safe from Chopper for now
yeah exactly there isnt time to talk about lola right now
We can get to that when the supreme leader of the shadow government isnāt literally shooting everyone in the chest with a magic shotgun 
We spent 3 chapters talking about how hot Shakky was
the rocks stuff is relevant to the practical crisis at hand
Chopper is there so that he doesnāt die
She was
and so is harald's death
so ill cope we will see some of lola history soon
i want that 8 years of loki history man so bad
Lola was the first thing we ever knew about Loki we should definitely get information on this during Lokis flashback
The fact that it didn't happen already tells us a lot
And yes, the context of Shakky and the Kuja pirates was more important in the flashback than Lola saying she didnāt want Loki lol
8 years is a long time
that could reveal a lot of stuff
i have no idea when we'll get a loki flashback now since i assume we're ending with the castle incident
it all depends on this week's chap
After Loki killed Harald he is seen as king. Harald wasn't allowed to marry a fellow giant in Ida how was Lokis marriage to enemy of thr state Big Moms daughter ever ok?
8 years of loki working with ragnir
how that bond between them works
if the other yonkos noticed loki
how did he rampage
when did the WG made that bounty
Did Loki just not care about the elders like Harald did? Were they trying to make peace with past enemies? Lola is a lot more relevant to the Harald legacy than Shakky was
loki wasnt considered a king
he was ran out of the country lol
i assume big mom just didnt know about his situation and thought he held more power than he did
There are 8 years between Haralds death and when he was chained up
i dont think the country would take kindly to the accursed son murdering 100 guards and their beloved king
im telling you loki killed some of the former rocks members
There is still a ton of relevant information we need to know about what happened. It's possible for the first few years Loki actually listened to his father and told the truth
mutliple big pirates was prob gunning for the 4th spot for yonko
Shakky was the reason that Roger went to God Valley. The flashback isnāt just about Haraldās legacy or Lokiās life.
Surely you understand that, yes?
I understand itās Le funnay redditsir meme to say KEK GOONPIECE but
Shakky was relevant to god valley but Lola is relevant to Loki and in Lokis flashback I expect her to be addressed especially if we spent so much time on things that had little to do with Harald
im like 90% sure its said loki immediately fled
Itās not Lokiās flashback
trying to figure out what chapter it was
Itās a flashback of multiple events
Loki was captured 6 years ago around when Shanks became an emperor
The flashback that Loki is telling is Lokis flashback
The flashback Jinbabe told regarding Tiger and the perils of Fishman people is Jinbabes flashback even if it was mostly people outside of Jinbabe
Loki wasnāt there for most of the flashback
So again, no lol
His flashback is apart of the wider story Oda is trying to show us that informs the context of what heās going to show us next
the only part of this flashback that loki is actually narrating/thinking back to is the castle incident
And assumingely, the parts he was there for as a child
well i dont think hes telling them about that
Loki as a baby is irrelevant to Haralds question
The rest is either coming from Gaban, or more likely, is Oda showing it to us because again, itās incredibly important context for the rest of the broader narrative being spun
yeah its just oda
But just as we got that information we should get info on Lola as she is a very curious factor in this
Kek goonpiece though for sure
we should absolutely get lola stuff if we continue the flashback past the castle incident
I would be incredibly surprised if we didnāt
It just hasnāt been the time for it yet
I could see us getting the context of his later life later on though. We should really return to current events now that weāve had the tease of Lokiās devil fruit and him killing his dad
the only reason i care about lola stuff is it might rope back in capone bege
This is the emotional peak of his portion of the flashback. Usually we switch back to current perspective at this point.
AND PEZZZZZZ

Bege isn't really relevant to Lola he shouldn't have even been a pirate at the time Lola turned Loki down
yeah i dont think bege would fit into any of it lol
chiffon is lola's twin sister
i really hope loki genuinely loved lola
It'd be more heartbreaking if he did
we're only like 2 degrees of separation from bege
I think the idea is that if Lola for some reason was desired by Loki so strongly for reasons other than simple attraction, that would imply Lola is currently important as well, therefore making Bege important, as sheās apart of his crew
Yeah I think thatās what QBZ was saying. I could be wrong.
i thought we were just talking about the flashback
i dont expect it to be super relevant outside of it
oh no i mean that could be the thread by which bege gets dragged into the snowball of the final war
Yeah, that would be sick
I honestly donāt see a scenario where the other supernovae we are cool with donāt show up
At some point in the rest of the story
yeah the snowball is gonna somehow collect almost everyone
no capable grand line person is gonna be doing nothing just hoping it goes well
including urouge 
I guess Hawkins, Killer, and Kidd maybe not but lmao
we've had a supernova featured in nearly every arc since punk hazard to some degree so its kind of weird to not see urouge in elbaf
Sucks that Hawkins was a giant letdown of a character that didnāt do much by the end of his tenure on panel
Kidd and Killer might still be here because where else would they be
if kid washed up somewhere it should be elbaf
unless he got rescued by the man marked by flames or something lmao
I donāt think he COULD wash up anywhere else
how many days ago did Shanks sink his ship? Like, a week?
probably
Are you me? @alpine trench @tranquil blade Wtf?
I think ya need to be level 10 to send gif @proper lintel
hmmkay
In order to reach level 10, uhh I suppose simply text more here in the server lol
@alpine trench @tranquil blade WHERE ARE YOU GUYS AT
where them bitches at
oden is a bitch
bitch is gender neutral so they could be
Female dog is not gender neutral
oden make harald look like a genius
Naaaah
Their decisions are both meant to be divisive but Haraldās is more naive imo
Harald is way dumber than Oden for sure, Oden knew he was atoning and when push came to shove actually acted, Harald did nothing and was wilfully led to the edge of the cliff
Harald didn't know what he was getting into. Oden has known Orochi for years and knew what a deceitful liar he was
And he acted to atone for his actions, while also having a hostage situation in his hands
Dudeeeee that would be like Dr Vegapunk with a BBL š¤£
If his brain was in his butt. His butt would constantly get bigger HAHAHA
How many people did Odens actions save? Vs how many died in the 20 years the Wano people had to wait for their prophecy
He guaranteed the freedom of those people who were hostages by dancing and then when it became apparent he was played he actually hit back
Iām not talking about the 20 years
Iām not sure you understand what Iām saying here
His actions saved a lot of the hostages
Oden should have fought from the beginning. Negotiating with terrorists is a losing battle
He was naive at a point but he sobered up at the end
Oden died a fool
He is a fucking idiot
It didn't
Reread
Harald didnāt know what he was getting into is kind of disingenuous to me. Ok he didnāt know all the specifics of their real identity but WG depravity and wickedness is not really a secret lol. He should have known that the people he was getting involved with werenāt all sunshineās and rainbows
This shit is so funny because people claim this without actually reading the full context
But again, both their decisions are meant to be divisive with hindsight. Thatās like⦠the entire point. But you canāt give grace to Harald but not Oden
he did understand they werent great. he just misunderstood the terms of their agreement. And maybe was dumb for beleiving theyd hold to any agreement in the first place.
WG preventing me from trading
WG agent said unaffiliated people have no rights
hmm if i join these people
He basically knew all about them and acknowledged how they enslave people like him so ngl you got a point but he stopped his own navieity from causing his country to suffer at the end
Thatās what I mean tho
He thought he could sacrifice himself and get the other giants their freedom. Seemed like a good deal and the govt is the supposed side of justice
Why would he assume theyād honor any sort of agreement in good faith.
The same reason he wanted the giants to join the govt in the first place. He trusted them
Like will 1172 be coming next week?
Idk
If i join my oppressors surely my people will be free, truly a genius 
Rocks was at least right at that juncture
Harald had some deeply seated self respect issues
He's optimistic but I can at least understand his PoV Jinbabe was the same way and was why he joined the 7 warlords
Ngl Harald had zero reason to be doing allat after everyone telling him not to
His dying wife's wish was for him to stop š
Again, complicated people and complicated actions
Fuck powerscaling. Weāre doing Oden vs Harald naivety scaling
After the pirate told him not to. Ida was proud of what he accomplished she just didn't think they needed to get rid of their pride
Oden wins
harald low diffs
Iāve already done this, Harald always comes out looking worse
does nami get a pass on naivety scalign for being a child
She was a child
Nope
Once you pass 5 years old you canāt be falling for stuff anymore
Even without Wg help he managed to allies with some great countries but nooo he wanted to be loved by everyone
Also, weāre looking at this from the perspective of outside omniscient observers
Fair is fair we should count Nami too. Her bad actions consist of stealing a used book and robbing criminals
Just did wayyy too much š
Where we can see what the fuck went wrong and where exactly
she worked for a decade thinking she could buy the freedom of herself and her town which was never gona happen
She was an innocent child
Namiās situation is way more tragic tho because genuinely what was she supposed to do. She had absolutely no power, support, or influence and the east blue law enforcement were so useless or corrupt
Thatās different
Fascinating
Oden knew Orochi for most of Orochis life. He was always an underhanded slimeball trying to better himself with lies and deceipt
Harald was the king of a wholeass nation who had self hatred
he was kinda bad in the beginning but overcorrected
Bro had countries that could end famine in elbaph. You know how much food they need? Those weren't jist some poor countries that he had on his side
And exorcised that self hatred and retaliation towards the larger society of Elbaf by aligning quite naively to the WG in hopes of getting a better reputation among the world and opening the country
Said Orochi was holding Wano citizens hostage and in the best case scenario would rule for 5 years and then just leave. I don't even know if Luffy would buy that
His greed sickens me
Could giant poop fertilize a small country?
Shut the fuck up meek
you should practice more love
Gosh Meek
I LOVE HARALD
aloha, indeed.
I LOVE HARALD
whats that one phrase in hawaiian
Talk normally
that means I love harald
Get in line Harald already has 2 wives
Not to mention his strength was top of the world, his nation among the strongest.
He did not need to do all that. He had centuries to accomplish it. He could spend 400 years helping but sacrificed everything in 20 years
I want Elbaf to end soon so meek can ban himself real fast
You saw that convo?
Amen brother
Yeah
They both were naive for thinking the people they were dealing with would honor their promises. But I think Odenās situation was probably a bit tougher because like⦠itās fucking Kaido and the citizens lives were ACTUALLY endangered. So Oden kind of had to take the risk that someone even as depraved as Orochi would keep his word
At the end of Elbaf, I'm banned and I'm no longer with TCB.
So
Will be the end of my era.
Until it became apparent that he obviously wasnāt
It's my God Valley, my Loguetown, my Marineford.
Thank God
You can't leave fast enough
Heās really merciful
Wdym youāre banned lol?
I was fixing to become a mod so I could ban him myself before he leaves
Heās banning himself ie leaving forever
I asked the staff in this server to ban me once the arc concludes.
Oh
He did not. Even after giving them 5 years prep time and losing the faith of the Wano warriors Oden still put up a decent fight against Kaidos forces when he actually stepped up and tried. If he had fought from the beginning or god forbid asked Roger/Whitebeard for help it'd have been a wash
FUCK YES
I'll have Red do a permaban too
Evan can you make me temporary staff for the day Elbaph ends so I can carry that duty out
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you guys love each other don't you
Harald little better because he end up stopping the WG plan and stopped his country from getting enslaved
Oden on other hand let his country be enslaved when he could have killed kaido.
It'd be an honor to punish the unpunished
Well I currently canāt make you a mod given Iām no longer an admin so you wouldnāt be able to ban anyone
This seal has the same mannerisms as speed
It's giving animalistic speed gif
Oh my god bruh
How could he have killed Kaido? He tried to do that and failed
Wait was Harald alive 20 years ago?
Yes
Are you deadass meek
Why didn't he take over Wano
He died 14 years ago
Wait what
Worst comment oat?
After giving Kaido 5 years of prep he almost succeeded in winning. By Kaidos own account had they joined with Hyogoro right away they'd probably have won
WHY would he do that
Oden should've teamed up with Harald to beat Kaido lol
great question meek
He could have killed him if he didn't waste 5 years, kaido says it so himself that it was likely oden could have won if he didn't let kaido built up his forces and strength
Kaido genuinely cant beat Harald and Oden
probably not yeah
Oden would've likely met Harald, because Harald has met Roger.
But even that was late. When they dropped off Momo they knew that there was trouble in Wano Oden could have handled things there and then
Thatās just speculation. Whoās to say they wouldnāt have pulled the same underhanded tactics even 5 years ago
Oden ultimately lost primarily because he was tricked
Power scaling aside
kaido is smarter than both 
When Vivi was pressed about her mission in Alabasta she didn't just ignore Drums plight when they got there the crew handled Wapol and then went back to what they were doing

Kaido planned for 5 years to kill oden whereas he planned for 25 years to kill orochi 
Here we go with the stupid powerscaling shit again
5 years ago they didn't have the weapons and supplies they did when Oden actually fought back. Orochi had 5 years to prepare for Oden they might not have even had Momos face at the time for not Mr. 2 to steal
They likely could have done someone else then
Like Toki
Given she returned to Wano earlier
Its easy to plan to kill a good guy who is strong but takes time kill a cunning guy who is weak
That's what we're saying giving them time just makes things harder. Oden should have dealt with the problem when he first got back to Wano
Yeah he should have
Kaido couldāve killed Orochi as easily 25 years ago too
When you apply hindsight lol
Well no Orochi just had a use to Kaido
Thatās the point of these discussions
Their decisions look foolish and naive IN HINDSIGHT
When you have reader omniscience
Well I'm just joking but when did orochi got his fruit?
One Piece fans when hindsight and retrospective
Kaido only kills Orochi because Orochi was yelling at him and because he planned on having Yamato rule Wano eventually
He made the wrong choice back then not helping right away. He made the wrong choice again giving Kaido 5 years prep time. He made his final bad choice not getting help from his allies and thinking he could beat Kaido by himself
Its not necessarily yelling, he decides to kill him when he thought of using flower capital for himself. He knows orochi never gonna approve it
You think Luffy would agree to dance for 5 years? I think he'd beat Orochi at first opportunity but even if he didn't when he dropped off Momo he definitely would have fought when he returned
He literally wasnāt willing to risk the lives of his people so he took a gamble. We the readers know with hindsight and further information that the ideal choice likely would have been to act sooner. But again, thatās the point here. If you want to judge him for being wrong⦠sure ig. But you canāt say he was stupid when you have the luxury of hindsight and he did not
Luffy could never break the barrier pre gear 5. Idk about gear 5 
Leaders have to make judgment calls without knowing all the answers
Same with Harald mostly but I think he was even more naive than Oden all things considered
Luffy never faced a blackmail scenario right?
Luffy has MC privilege
It was stupid even then to trust Orochi. It was clear that he lied from the start and there was no reason to assume he wasn't lying now. He openly took the country hostage and leaving him to his own devices for 5 years on the hope he would choose to willing leave is idiotic
If only dragon haters who compare him with luffy helping robin know this 
Closest is probably the birdcage where it was bring all of the starred people to doffy and he'd let the citizens go
Luffy saved Ace
Not him, but his crew members have a few times
Ace just got himself killed right afterwards
And by literally every account, him going to impel down was incredibly incredibly stupid
Luffy feels like a dude that would just find the perfect answer to blackmail
He faced 2 back to back. Sabaody and marineford
Ace was a plot device destined to die
Ace wasnāt saved
Wasnāt Luffyās fault sure
But he still āfailedā
So while Luffy failed its like yeah it had to happen tho
So I canāt even say Luffy has full MC immunity
Impel down was amazing. Can you imagine what would have happened at Marineford if Luffy actually managed to break out Ace before the war
Ace fell for a 'ur dad fat'
Right but its also to save luffy because akainu was targetting luffy
I mean Luffy is probably immune in the sense that Oda wont write him out of the story until the last chapter, but he cant save every single person
I still think Akainu would have caught up to them lol. Itās obviously meant to come across as a provocation but likeā¦
Heās an admiral
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Remember when Luffy charged up to fight 3 admirals at the same time with a log?
Blame WB for not getting their sooner ig
Jk donāt
Never blame the goat for anything
End of marineford is pure chaos
Yes
Ye right after
I mean he was already there just watching I guess but yes he appeared after Aces death
Literally the chapter after
Remember when the anime had whitebeard like steaming as if he was using gear 2nd
is he just saying "which of the three is captain" or is he suggesting there's a fourth unknown giant that was the captain of them at the time
And balloon holes
The latter imo
Gerd is in the middle so she must have been the captain at least at that time
Does manga have these balloon holes?
It has one of them
If that wording is accurate I think itās implying that none of those 3 are the captain at that point
but Akainu gives Whitebeard two in the anime
i also think its the latter im wondering who it is maybe thatll be something we learn about
Tbf, he's literally empty inside
im not sure about the timeline but maybe it was loki
I think he's an actual balloon

that was their compensation for only singing wb's moustache instead of blowing off the side of his head
When was this? Harald should have been Alive and well 20 years ago
My guess is Oda meant Saul was the one who told them to go out there, he was the "captain" of this operation
ah that woul dmake sense
You can have two gaping holes in you but a little bit off the side of the head is too much
that might actually make more sense
They also censored a lot of the blood surprisingly
i dont know how well youd function with only half your brain
Seriously he should be drenched in blood
They straight up refused to show Luffy stabbing himself
censorship was a lot bigger back then
especially in a timeslot like OP's
Nami got to do it though
It still is
nah not to the same degree
Saul will die 
Look at one frame man
It was like maybe a quarter of his brain he lost, which is still pretty bad but
Lost half his brain still smarter than Ace
nice pfp
267 sword wounds? Learn to dodge dude
So he doesn't have those big holes, just stabs that go to other side
Back home sweet home
So you're telling me one of the cannonballs that shot his chest is inside him?
And half his face gone
it merely bounced off his rock hard abs
Average tank experience
Toei censorship rules are weird
Wait are you Socrates
common mistake
Why tf is your name Vortex
YAY ANOTHER ONE
BUDDY
vortex is like socrates but a positive force in the world
ITS THE SAME PFP
Nah not him
I know he got hit by 40 cannon balls canonically but I feel like most of those must have at most burned a bit cause otherwise there would be nothing left of him
I've had this one before coming here, I was as surprised and scared as a lot of people were
unfortunately those two sword wounds are gonna count as scars on his back
You being so nice greeting me was freaking me out
Cannon blasts doesn't mean he was hir by the cannon just in range of the explosion
I thought he turned a new leaf
Lmao
Bullets is okay, but 46 cannon balls felt bit exaggerated
I've seen him ramble on about stuff, usually he's wrong, but it's nice seeing it
Cowards wounds are wounds from running away with your back turned. Like what Wb would have gotten from Garp at God valley
whitebeard is pretty impressive to survive 152 of these
Weird ass hair
Bullet ruined the movie pattern of movie villains becoming less and less impressive
Why is Bullet so red
He's embarrassed
Because he can't be placed here
I feel like Oda added 46 cannonball to glaze corpse upscaling
It would be a scar on the back if he was struck from behind
That's what the term means
The strongest corpse of all time vs uhhhhhh
Idk any other corpse in this series suffered as much
i know i just wanted a chance to make fun of whitebeard..
Another member has joined?
Strong world: Rival of Roger
Film Z: A former Admiral
Film Gold: Some man
Film Red: some little girl
I'd say Saturn but like, he's literally ash
Speak of the philosopher
But Bullet comes between Tesoro and Uta and is way more impressive than most probably more than anyone bar Shiki
The one unnamed dude who got hit by the boiling oil while moving the pot
by this pattern the next villain will be another admiral
Whitebeard has no cowards wounds but he does have the imprint of a fist he got coincidentally around the same time as god valley 
Another confused me with you
wait no
Ohh ok
I was fixing up a new pfp for a new member
I don't see how you get that from the pattern. It's growing less and less impressive so next villain should be a baby
Oden got some competition
Maybe Makinos baby?
Wait you have it?
Actually nah the cremated body Oden was eating off of
How does it look like?
It's just us but blonde
I'm sure when Loki does more amazing shit next chapter we're going to see more fans
It can only go up from here
Yeah I'm expecting something insane
I don't think Loki will ever top this chapter
He killed an immortal that was stronger than Rocks
He was 16 this chapter
i mean imu is literally next lol
Dude, he barely has screentime this arc yet
Loki is logically so much stronger than how he was 16 years ago
granted i doubt loki will/should do much
Well it's on the mural so I disagree
Yes he's probably stronger now. But I don't think he will ever surpass this feat
im well aware of your position yes
Also 16 - 21 is like one of the best positions for strength growth
It is the 3rd most impressive feat in the series
This is prime puberty I believe
I just hope he doesnt suffer from the " supporting character too strong so I'll have to make him fight weak" syndrome
What could Loki do to top this?
I agree 100%
A lot actually
Damage Imu badly
Imu isn't really next up from Harald
We know he's going to be on the final war
Loki could top it with a feat against the Gorosei
Sure but he won't be doing the finishing shot
Plus, we still need to see his devil fruit
Big Mom contributed to damaging Imu badly it didn't mean much for her. Just showed how much of a tank Imu was
Yeah but I can expect him to do a lot of work against the Gorosei+
Big Mom can't really counter regen
He could kill a gorosei and I'd still be less impressed than with what he did here
Loki is the first to actually kill someone with regen now that I think about it
That's insane
There's also ragnir
Glad Ragnir is sentient now lol
Yes it is. And the one he killed was Harald a man on par with Rocks
Only stronger because he also got an Imu power up
Bro been repeating this for 2 months
Imy doesn't count, so yeah, THE PRINCE will show us how to counter Regen merchants
Yeah I speak of facts
Chopper will be the one to show us how to kill immortals
Gyaban was a disappointment in that regard
I don't lie like your Buggy posse
Blud thinks chopper is gonna do something
Tbf Harald let it happen near the end but Loki held his own against multiple of Harald's attacks
He even clashed with Harald without the DF or Ragnir
Although it wasn't shown as Haki juiced, according to Thigh, "I'm more surprised if anyone is not using haki when they clearly know how to"
Can you imbue haki into lightning?
Yeah you can
Yeah killing a gorosei who wld be constantly using conq for defending himself and also has better regen will be more impressive
It's an element, so probably not
I don't think you can. Big Moms kids confused Namis thunderbolt for their moms so despite Namis lack of haki it was of similar power
I would also think Luffy wouldn't be immune to haki lightning
I think he can shoot conqueror Haki as if it was actual lightning
Also I think Haki lightning would be kinda of overkill
I don't know about yall but this seems like it's imbued with CoC
So if Enel finds a way to do it his offensive power would surpass Big Moms
Enel doesnāt have coc
Big mom or Hera?
I see the black yes. But as a feat it looks less impressive than other performances from Nami or Enel
Holy shit another Loki agenda truther
I don't think size really matters
Big Mom never showed anything more impressive than lightning. Though I guess it's still more accurate to say surpass Hera
It can be assumed that Big Mom's lightning bolt stretched on for a few kilometers
Without Big Mom it wouldn't have CoC though
I mean sure but the hole Nami and Enel made looked bottomless
BMās is way bigger than Namiās in scale
What BM and Nami feats are we talking abt
Big Mom wasn't part of Kaidos top 5 I'm not sure she can ACoC. Though at this point it seems uncertain if you can imbue haki into lightning in any case
Big Mom's Fulgora?
Namis lightning in Whole cake that was confused for Big Moms and Enels Kingdom Come that destroyed an island
yeah
Oh ok
How do you scale what's better though
It's just size
Big Mom never showed anything of the size Nami did but considering the kids assumed it was her I would imagine she can do it
Arguably can't we say Ragnir produces bigger bolts than both of them since it's the scale of a giant island?
Is that from Squirrel or Lokis devil fruit or nature? I don't think there's enough context there
Wow I canāt believe Zoro was the eyepatch man the whole time
That's from the squirrel most definitely
Though since we mentioned it according to Gyaban the only way to kill an immortal is with Acoc so we should infer that it is possible to imbue lightning and Big Mom just chooses not to
Isn't this imbuing lightning with CoC?
He easily does
It being the squirrel is problematic as it's less Loki killed Harald and more Squirrel killed Harald
Yeah I feel like this should be the case
Not really, the squirrel doesn't have CoC
Without Loki the squirrel wouldn't have caused any significant damage
She has, shes done better
That is substantially bigger than I thought still don't thibk its island size but it is better than Namis
Me using Acoc
This is unfortunate news
I had wanted Nami to beat Summers but I don't think she can now
She isn't.
This is just on another scale
Sommers is Sanji's opponent
Definitely, Ragnir is on a different level
And Sommers will die to Sanji probably.
Cute
Sanji doesn't have CoC much less ACoC he's just as helpless as Nami
PoL.
Sanji usopp are getting conq dw
Sorry to spoil the strongest mechanic to you sooner than later
wow
That is an option yes
no why
But I'd still have rather it been Nami
he is so chill
I love that Nami Forcibly enslaved adopted Zeus
Saint Sommers was a decent hardworking man
š„š„š„
Heās into it
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Idk what you saying, do salves look happy? 
Canāt wait for Usopp to do the same thing to Ragnir
Mims is so good
Nami will be the new Big Mom EoS
You raise Ragnir now⦠but soon
You wonāt get in trouble for saying the word
Will you be my Servant
OR DIE?
Which Charlotte sibling is 20? Do they look remotely like Nami?
Its like you are asking your kid to behave well if you want chocolate or ice cream
You donāt even have to say or die
I'm not afraid to say it?
I like to imagine Zeus is effectively her child now.
Then say it
Kind of wish he interacted a bit more
Wait, which word are you talking about 
Heās proud to call himself her slave. I donāt think he sees her as his mom
Slave
I wouldn't say zeus is a slave but i guess you can call road as a slave to nami 
Eh?
People who send Loki fan art
Lol
I don't really like Zeus. Namis powers were cool because she used her weather knowledge to create ideal conditions for herself. With Zeus she just says go and he attacks
Well canonically Sanji is servant no.2, and Zeus is servant no.1
Nice
I was so mad at this scene
Why do you need loki fan art when oda himself drew him so well in many panels
Nami really hit Zeus with the LTG special
I agree to that since zeus himself said it in manga 
They don't have color in it
She just hasnāt gotten an extended fight for her creativity to shine. Post-Timeskip Nami also could just use lightning on whim prior to Zeus
I think I'm the only Loki agenda mf here that drew him
Coloring is different than fan arts 
You can color the oda panels
Namiās creativity is even more anomie than before with Zeus
I like that she has more fire power now but I do think she should use her brain more. Maybe we can have a mix of both in the future. But I think the story in general has moved towards big attacks do big damage and less about using your brain to deal with your opponents
You drew him? Can i see?
Fan arts are simply different interpretations of images, I like seeing different interpretations of it
Iāve drawn him
Remember when Nami could make clouds?
Can we see?
She still makes clouds with Zeus
It isn't finished yet but I'll get there eventually
LokiTrue
Okay now I think i misworded it, I'm trying to say oda drew loki so well compared to other characters in elbaf. But I'm still open to more interpretations.
Art is still art
Whoās the bastard who sad reacted my drawing 
I know, that double page spread is absolutely beautiful
I worked really hard on it
I like the designs of every new character weāve had on Elbaf except Lokiās mom
His biological mother
Wait, is jimbe the fish on the wall or Sally? Who tf is sally supposed to be?
Whoās sally?
Oh
Whoās sally 
That makes sense
Niceeeeš„
TELL ME WHOāS SALLY
Squirrel girl
Peak
Hmmmm
Hopefully not a logia
I have 3 options in mind
Are you sure?
Ok so you hate Marin
Perchance
evil vivi
Youāre evil
Probably fenrir
Itās very basic
But I really want him to have any other devil fruit that isn't a zoan tbh
She is the biggest mom in the world. Hence she is the real big mom
you still have hopes for that after last chapter?
Big Mom probably only got her title after she died
last chapter kinda confirmed it highkey
A man can cope ok :(
id rather nidhogg than fenrir if we have to get a zoan
at least theres some fun potential with the root dragon
Who?
||I'm just teasing btw||
mythical logia
its real 
It could be a thing like Karasu
The Castel has scratch marks, so he definitely has fangs
I was joking about zoan piece but its no longer a joke, Oda hates paramecias and Logias
First ever mythical logia user
She looks like combination of vivi and viola 
Or antlers
Ig everyone in one piece wants to be a furry or something, why are there so many mythical Zoan?
deer logia
No
I think itās either a mythical cow, a mythical moose or cloud logia
the character design vs the fan art 
Man sheās so cute
rip her square head
Oda deserves to burn for killing her
Ignore the fenrir at the bottom
Those are the antlers marks
Lol
Of course
how many claws does a dog have anyway
Everything is a cow
ohh a cow
mythical cow is massive aura loss for Loki
cow logia
You suck
TRUE AND TS IS NOT A COW BRO
You also suck
there actually is a mythical cow in norse mythology so it could work
Cows have aura
loki Auưumbla zoan 
Did kaido lose aura with fish fruit?
A fucking cow and I'm going to write a strongly worded email to oda
!koido
People go to freaking colosseums to see cows fight
this is a wolf claw mark
no because he was never a fish, not even when he first got it like some thought
Cow fruit can also be never a cow if the model is mythical
Oda robbed us of Koido
Magikaido
Itās a cow but with mythical stuff
i'm ngl this could be literally any animal that has claws lol
I wonder if ragnir fruit is even mythical or a normal fruit
not wrong
but 3 claws
at this point probably mythical
Vortex what does Loki do all the time with his tongue?
We have to see if ragnir is a squirrel who ate the ragnir fruit or a hammer who ate the squirrel fruit
depends on how on the nose oda wants to be with the ratatoskr reference
they aint ready for bird mode loki
velociraptor zoan
The same thing every villain does

I am afraid
cows dont have claws silly smh
Why do I speak
Itās a mythical cow silly
Because youāre human
Loki is probably not gonna show his DF until deep into the end of the arc, so we got like 4 months at least of Oda blueballing it
Loki ate the audhumbla fruit
In the chapter it was not even mentioned that it is a devil fruit thing right?
you telling me lokis hybrid looks like a Satyr
Nope, just hammer becomes squirrel and vice versa
Based tbh
Hope they never address this

I should have not entertained the idea
Its a horse fruit model bo 
I worry for main manga
It's a shape shifting paramecia guys
Losing an arm = you lost nothing
Is this about shanks?
wait Surtr has horns, maybe there's still hope
Knew it
If this is about the df loki ate
Main is just powerscalling
Still on nidhogg
Cool ass dragon
would be wild if Oda gave us another Dragon
Might be approaching void month levels
Break weeks bring out the worst of people (speculation piece)
nika was likley this for sur e
I might read spoilers icl this break is rough... i'm starting to tweak
This popped up https://x.com/Stitchymcfishy/status/2010458480986239443
Donāt 
Aye how dare you not blindly hate her just because we said so?
i'm like 8 months strong or smthng
You should keep going
Theory piece is the cool older brother, back when the mural happened we had actual meat to go off of, now it's just people throwing shit at the wall and gluing it with cow milk
I'll be waiting for you rezz
I do not like arguing without a chapter to bounce off
aww hell nah
It's okay


