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ashen perch
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26...

vital heart
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šŸ’€

cloud adder
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lolll

ashen perch
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Pushing 30

vital heart
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its the 11th still

dark nymph
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officially pushing 30

cloud adder
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12th hasnt reached the east coast but

formal wagon
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😭 😭 😭 😭

hot cairn
dark nymph
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hbd

ashen perch
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Its really really over

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tyty

cloud adder
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youre closer to robin's age tho

dense haven
dark nymph
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its ok im joining u in 4 months

cloud adder
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so it cant really be over yet

vital heart
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but yea.

ashen perch
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I'm still cool and hip relax

vital heart
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im excited to witness the final war chapters

ruby cape
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On the note of birthdays what yall got

vital heart
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its gonna be sick

vital heart
ruby cape
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Wish it was a better character selection but yea

ashen perch
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I still got 6-7 years till I can no longer keep up with the younglings

wraith mantle
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When you started one piece you saw Robin as this cool mother like figure

Now, years later, Robin is just a woman your age šŸ’€

ruby cape
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Get robbed by Law šŸ˜­šŸ™

cloud adder
# vital heart but yea.

real question, are you quitting one piece translation because of the community or is it moreso because you wanna move on to other opportunities?

vital heart
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translation is too much time commitment

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and

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yeah

ruby cape
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Thank you for your translation services gang šŸ™

cloud adder
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fairfair

vital heart
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so elbaf is the cutoff

ruby cape
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As in are you out of OP or will you still be reading and just not involved in the com

vital heart
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bruh

cloud adder
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lmao

ruby cape
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Bro

vital heart
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im gonna be reading still

ruby cape
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I thought the ban shit was on serious shit

vital heart
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just with morj tekking parvision mainly

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I’m just banned from here

ruby cape
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son

ashen perch
olive sigil
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I think it’ll be something similar to Wano

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But with more people

ashen perch
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I don't think there'd be a lot of sharing when he eats so much

dense haven
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meek would rather stay with morj than with this server

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how do yall feel about that

cloud adder
vital heart
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I’ve been saying this for 3 months now at least.

Yall just aint paying attention

cloud adder
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meek i thought you gave up on morj

ashen perch
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In the final war, every SH will have a fight or fights even and a major side plot of their own too

ruby cape
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bros SERIOUS

cloud adder
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what brought you back to morj's side

ruby cape
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also who’s morj I’m not this educated

ashen perch
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The people are not prepared for the final war to be like 250 chapters

sick dust
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He was the guy responsible for its popularity

ruby cape
sick dust
ruby cape
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Oh damn

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Bro’s theory failed šŸ”„

sick dust
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I haven’t seen him in years

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But he makes shitty thumbnails

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So I imagine I am not missing much

cloud adder
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just watch Dawn Dusk

ruby cape
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Yeah I only stick with Dawn Dusk tbh

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Their Twitter got some good shit too

cloud adder
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o

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i should check their twitter

still mason
sick dust
glacial bear
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The only OPTubers I watch is King Recon, Tekking101, Hidden Island, The Crap CafƩ, and Dawn & Dusk.

cloud adder
glacial bear
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Otherwise I’m chilling in here for anything OP related

sick dust
ruby cape
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I mainly just use Discord for OP since active discussion the way to go usually

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Emphasis on usually

hot cairn
hot cairn
olive sigil
royal orchid
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sanji kicks his enemies because his shoes are tied using haki knots

grand flower
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That’s a good one

fast pagoda
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The only OP video I watch is the Straw Hats 30 crewmates video

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I watch it every day

cunning narwhal
grand flower
ashen perch
grand flower
ashen perch
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Lmao

grand flower
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67 genuinely gets to me

ashen perch
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Is 6-7 still in, I haven't been very active lately

grand flower
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I’ve got just enough brain rot

ashen perch
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I'll keep saying it because its still funny to me

grand flower
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I can tell you that much

ashen perch
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All that matters tbh, half my jokes only pop me anyways 😭

celest mauve
runic dock
still mason
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Haki monkey knot is coming LuffyPog

red lagoon
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What

strong wadi
# red lagoon What

Basically how the only strawhat that will participate is Luffy. Brook too if Gunko is being fully resolved this arc.

celest mauve
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it's truly so funny how oda has spent this flashback hammering in that only ACoC can deal with WG immortality, while knowing full-well that only luffy and zoro out of 10 SHs can use it

sage temple
celest mauve
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and also that loki and gaban (both injured) are the only other people on the island who have it on the good side

sage temple
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Swear this looks awfully similar to Elbaph

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Elbaph will be destroyed by the end of the arc I can't wait for the dressrosa effect

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Franky foreshadowed it years ago WAKAINU

trim lily
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franky will destroy elbaf

dense haven
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he was supposed to destroy egghead too

dark nymph
sage temple
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Vegapunk told him to spare the inhabitants and marines so he let off a little bit

vital heart
sage temple
unique lagoon
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looks more like a pizza to me

fallen meteor
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pizza pasta put it in a box

unique lagoon
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it even has that white holder thing in the middle

fallen meteor
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and the stuffed crust

tranquil blade
olive sigil
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Marin do the thing

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Show the Brazilian pizza

tranquil blade
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The eggs are a little crazy but the rest of it isnt that bad

olive sigil
tranquil blade
trim lily
fallen meteor
olive sigil
fallen meteor
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nothing irregular here

olive sigil
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Am I the only one who doesn’t like sprinkles

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@formal wagon are you back?

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You’re supposed to be regular mailbox

fast pagoda
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yall didnt see that

frail kindle
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yes I did

tranquil blade
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what

hazy turret
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The absolute nerve to talk to someone like that

dark nymph
hazy turret
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It’s like young people don’t know what respect is at all

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I’m actually kind of sick of these break weeks, I’ve forgotten what one piece is

proud pivot
hazy turret
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What even is this server? Who is Luffy? What is a strawhat??

hazy turret
proud pivot
hazy turret
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Societies have respected and honored elders for centuries

fast pagoda
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i think "luffy" is a type of gourd

hazy turret
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You’re thinking of loofah
Luffy is the name of a taffy candy

fast pagoda
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straw hats are hats made out of wheat straw i think

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i dont know what one piece is

hazy turret
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It’s like a swimsuit I think

proud pivot
frozen ravine
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Luffy is big moms laffy taffy themed son

fallen meteor
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luffy > laffy > laugh-y

frozen ravine
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laffy taffy laff tale holy shit

fallen meteor
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Laughtale? Luffytale

unique lagoon
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pretty sure dominos still has em

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just saw that shamrock VA reveal

frozen ravine
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Shouldn't it be the same as shanks

proper lintel
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Aloha,

Can you imagine the Straw Hats receiving support from at least some of the Marines?

High-ranking Marines like Smoker, Tashigi, Fujitora, Koby, Garp, and a few others have realized that Luffy isn't just an ordinary pirate, but someone who helps the helpless.

Smoker has been rescued by them twice, and Fujitora already helped them a bit in Dressrosa.

Maybe against Imu or Blackbeard. It could be an interesting plot twist.

alpine trench
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is this meek

tranquil blade
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The aloha is frying me

keen quiver
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The return of meek

alpine trench
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yeah the fucking aloha

digital spear
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Aloha,

olive sigil
digital spear
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Is that a meek thing?

olive sigil
olive sigil
shadow python
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Why is Nami a pirate? Is it out of obligation for what Luffy and the others did? She amongst everyone else in the crew seems like she'd best fit for the marines

olive sigil
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Oh wait that’s me

digital spear
olive sigil
thick mango
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yeah they were also corrupt and let arlong prey on her town

olive sigil
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Embed fail

shadow python
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I guess we can thank Nezumi for why Nami was so disillusioned with the marines

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It would be hard to consider her joining up with those willing to ignore Arlong and siding with him to keep the village terrorized

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The way I see it if the strawhats didn't join up with Luffy

Zoro: bounty hunter
Sanji: chef
Usopp: pirate
Nami: Sword
Chopper: doctor
Robin: Scholar
Brook: pop star
Franky: Revolutionary
Jinbabe: Marine

haughty saddle
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Nami joined up with Luffy because he’s Luffy

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I don’t think you would have seen her join any other pirate crew with any sort of genuine interest in their wellbeing outside of the strawhats

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But, that’s why they’re strawhats

vital heart
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Aloha!

haughty saddle
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Joining the marines is just out of the question for literally every Strawhat

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I mean maybe Chopper could have been suckered into it, given how oblivious he was to the world, but that wouldn’t have lasted long

fallen meteor
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Aloha,

haughty saddle
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They all share Luffy’s immense desire for individual freedom, have incredibly specific life goals that cannot be pursued while a marine, and many of them would be directly in opposition to the world government

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Shit ain’t even a question

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Even if Nezumi wasn’t complicit with Arlong

unique lagoon
# frozen ravine Shouldn't it be the same as shanks

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Cr34VOAG6CM
sounds a bit older than shanks
more edgy i guess

Kenjiro Tsuda, popularly known for voicing Kento Nanami in Jujutsu Kaisen, Overhaul (Kai Chisaki) in My Hero Academia, and Seto Kaiba in Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters, will be the voice actor for Shamrock. He has one of the most iconic deep and mature voices in the anime industry, the kind of voice that instantly makes a character feel powerful, compo...

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olive sigil
shadow python
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He became a warlord at first opportunity he wants to improve human Fishman relations

thick mango
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idk if things went better and the marines actually being good around her maybe nami would join the marines. Cause she had the example of bellmere who would still be alive

shadow python
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He'd look at John Giant and decide that that's what the fishpeople should do too

haughty saddle
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Zoro would be dead, Nami would be dead, Sanji would be dead, Ussop would be dead, Chopper would be dead, Robin would be dead, Franky would be dead, Brooke would be- is dead, Jinbei would be dead

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They wouldn’t be alive without Luffy lol

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Literally none of them

shadow python
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It's a shame Jinbabe isn't getting to hear Lokis flashback

olive sigil
haughty saddle
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Jinbei would either still be in Impel Down OR dead

unique lagoon
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oda purposely dint send nami next to loki when they cameback from the castle

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multiple reasons i guess

shadow python
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Is it because he smells?

olive sigil
haughty saddle
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AND Chopper

unique lagoon
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the lola thing also

haughty saddle
unique lagoon
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oda dint want nami to start remembering loki x lola history

olive sigil
shadow python
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Chopper will uncover the secret weakness of immortality

haughty saddle
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Ohhh you mean when they met Loki, not now

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Word my b

thick mango
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it seems like the lola stuff just getting dropped maybe? Or at least not dealt with now?

olive sigil
haughty saddle
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I wouldn’t say that yet

unique lagoon
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tbf i guess for oda it would be a premature revelation if nami starts asking loki about lola

haughty saddle
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We’re amidst a military incursion from the primary antagonist of the entire series

shadow python
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Scopper isn't immortal he can die like anyone else. He is safe from Chopper for now

thick mango
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yeah exactly there isnt time to talk about lola right now

haughty saddle
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We can get to that when the supreme leader of the shadow government isn’t literally shooting everyone in the chest with a magic shotgun QueenKEKW

shadow python
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We spent 3 chapters talking about how hot Shakky was

thick mango
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the rocks stuff is relevant to the practical crisis at hand

olive sigil
thick mango
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and so is harald's death

unique lagoon
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so ill cope we will see some of lola history soon
i want that 8 years of loki history man so bad

shadow python
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Lola was the first thing we ever knew about Loki we should definitely get information on this during Lokis flashback

haughty saddle
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It’ll happen. Just be patient.

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A lot more pressing things happening rn

shadow python
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The fact that it didn't happen already tells us a lot

haughty saddle
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And yes, the context of Shakky and the Kuja pirates was more important in the flashback than Lola saying she didn’t want Loki lol

unique lagoon
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8 years is a long time
that could reveal a lot of stuff

trim lily
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i have no idea when we'll get a loki flashback now since i assume we're ending with the castle incident

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it all depends on this week's chap

shadow python
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After Loki killed Harald he is seen as king. Harald wasn't allowed to marry a fellow giant in Ida how was Lokis marriage to enemy of thr state Big Moms daughter ever ok?

unique lagoon
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8 years of loki working with ragnir
how that bond between them works

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if the other yonkos noticed loki

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how did he rampage

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when did the WG made that bounty

shadow python
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Did Loki just not care about the elders like Harald did? Were they trying to make peace with past enemies? Lola is a lot more relevant to the Harald legacy than Shakky was

trim lily
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he was ran out of the country lol

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i assume big mom just didnt know about his situation and thought he held more power than he did

shadow python
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There are 8 years between Haralds death and when he was chained up

trim lily
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i dont think the country would take kindly to the accursed son murdering 100 guards and their beloved king

unique lagoon
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im telling you loki killed some of the former rocks members

shadow python
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There is still a ton of relevant information we need to know about what happened. It's possible for the first few years Loki actually listened to his father and told the truth

unique lagoon
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mutliple big pirates was prob gunning for the 4th spot for yonko

haughty saddle
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Surely you understand that, yes?

daring bear
haughty saddle
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I understand it’s Le funnay redditsir meme to say KEK GOONPIECE but

shadow python
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Shakky was relevant to god valley but Lola is relevant to Loki and in Lokis flashback I expect her to be addressed especially if we spent so much time on things that had little to do with Harald

trim lily
haughty saddle
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It’s not Loki’s flashback

trim lily
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trying to figure out what chapter it was

haughty saddle
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It’s a flashback of multiple events

shadow python
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Loki was captured 6 years ago around when Shanks became an emperor

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The flashback that Loki is telling is Lokis flashback

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The flashback Jinbabe told regarding Tiger and the perils of Fishman people is Jinbabes flashback even if it was mostly people outside of Jinbabe

haughty saddle
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Loki wasn’t there for most of the flashback

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So again, no lol

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His flashback is apart of the wider story Oda is trying to show us that informs the context of what he’s going to show us next

trim lily
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the only part of this flashback that loki is actually narrating/thinking back to is the castle incident

haughty saddle
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And assumingely, the parts he was there for as a child

trim lily
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well i dont think hes telling them about that

shadow python
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Loki as a baby is irrelevant to Haralds question

haughty saddle
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The rest is either coming from Gaban, or more likely, is Oda showing it to us because again, it’s incredibly important context for the rest of the broader narrative being spun

trim lily
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yeah its just oda

shadow python
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But just as we got that information we should get info on Lola as she is a very curious factor in this

haughty saddle
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Kek goonpiece though for sure

trim lily
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we should absolutely get lola stuff if we continue the flashback past the castle incident

haughty saddle
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I would be incredibly surprised if we didn’t

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It just hasn’t been the time for it yet

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I could see us getting the context of his later life later on though. We should really return to current events now that we’ve had the tease of Loki’s devil fruit and him killing his dad

thick mango
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the only reason i care about lola stuff is it might rope back in capone bege

haughty saddle
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This is the emotional peak of his portion of the flashback. Usually we switch back to current perspective at this point.

shadow python
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Bege isn't really relevant to Lola he shouldn't have even been a pirate at the time Lola turned Loki down

trim lily
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yeah i dont think bege would fit into any of it lol

thick mango
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chiffon is lola's twin sister

trim lily
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i really hope loki genuinely loved lola

shadow python
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It'd be more heartbreaking if he did

thick mango
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we're only like 2 degrees of separation from bege

haughty saddle
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I think the idea is that if Lola for some reason was desired by Loki so strongly for reasons other than simple attraction, that would imply Lola is currently important as well, therefore making Bege important, as she’s apart of his crew

trim lily
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yeah currently she might be

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seeing loki meet her again could be fun

haughty saddle
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Yeah I think that’s what QBZ was saying. I could be wrong.

trim lily
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i thought we were just talking about the flashback

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i dont expect it to be super relevant outside of it

thick mango
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oh no i mean that could be the thread by which bege gets dragged into the snowball of the final war

haughty saddle
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Yeah, that would be sick

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I honestly don’t see a scenario where the other supernovae we are cool with don’t show up

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At some point in the rest of the story

thick mango
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yeah the snowball is gonna somehow collect almost everyone

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no capable grand line person is gonna be doing nothing just hoping it goes well

trim lily
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including urouge DD

haughty saddle
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I guess Hawkins, Killer, and Kidd maybe not but lmao

trim lily
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we've had a supernova featured in nearly every arc since punk hazard to some degree so its kind of weird to not see urouge in elbaf

haughty saddle
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Sucks that Hawkins was a giant letdown of a character that didn’t do much by the end of his tenure on panel

shadow python
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Kidd and Killer might still be here because where else would they be

trim lily
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if kid washed up somewhere it should be elbaf

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unless he got rescued by the man marked by flames or something lmao

haughty saddle
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I don’t think he COULD wash up anywhere else

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how many days ago did Shanks sink his ship? Like, a week?

trim lily
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probably

dense haven
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the cultists are the kid pirates

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trust

vital heart
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ow

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Wow

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Aloha

vital heart
glacial bear
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I think ya need to be level 10 to send gif @proper lintel

proper lintel
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hmmkay

glacial bear
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In order to reach level 10, uhh I suppose simply text more here in the server lol

vital heart
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@alpine trench @tranquil blade WHERE ARE YOU GUYS AT

dense haven
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where them bitches at

shadow python
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Is Yamato considered a bitch?

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I think he identifies as Oden so no

dense haven
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oden is a bitch

trim lily
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bitch is gender neutral so they could be

shadow python
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Female dog is not gender neutral

dense haven
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oden make harald look like a genius

scenic dirge
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Naaaah

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Their decisions are both meant to be divisive but Harald’s is more naive imo

alpine trench
shadow python
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Harald didn't know what he was getting into. Oden has known Orochi for years and knew what a deceitful liar he was

alpine trench
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And he acted to atone for his actions, while also having a hostage situation in his hands

glacial bear
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If his brain was in his butt. His butt would constantly get bigger HAHAHA

shadow python
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How many people did Odens actions save? Vs how many died in the 20 years the Wano people had to wait for their prophecy

alpine trench
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He guaranteed the freedom of those people who were hostages by dancing and then when it became apparent he was played he actually hit back

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I’m not talking about the 20 years

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I’m not sure you understand what I’m saying here

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His actions saved a lot of the hostages

shadow python
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Oden should have fought from the beginning. Negotiating with terrorists is a losing battle

sage temple
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Oden died a fool

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He is a fucking idiot

alpine trench
azure wasp
alpine trench
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Reread

scenic dirge
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Harald didn’t know what he was getting into is kind of disingenuous to me. Ok he didn’t know all the specifics of their real identity but WG depravity and wickedness is not really a secret lol. He should have known that the people he was getting involved with weren’t all sunshine’s and rainbows

alpine trench
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This shit is so funny because people claim this without actually reading the full context

scenic dirge
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But again, both their decisions are meant to be divisive with hindsight. That’s like… the entire point. But you can’t give grace to Harald but not Oden

thick mango
azure wasp
sage temple
shadow python
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He thought he could sacrifice himself and get the other giants their freedom. Seemed like a good deal and the govt is the supposed side of justice

alpine trench
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Lmfao

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The government was actively hindering him and his efforts for peace

scenic dirge
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Why would he assume they’d honor any sort of agreement in good faith.

alpine trench
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Rocks kept telling him

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Repeatedly

vital heart
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@alpine trench Yo evan

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Do you know if theres a break after 1171?

shadow python
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The same reason he wanted the giants to join the govt in the first place. He trusted them

vital heart
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Like will 1172 be coming next week?

scenic dirge
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Idk

azure wasp
alpine trench
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Rocks was at least right at that juncture

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Harald had some deeply seated self respect issues

shadow python
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He's optimistic but I can at least understand his PoV Jinbabe was the same way and was why he joined the 7 warlords

sage temple
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Ngl Harald had zero reason to be doing allat after everyone telling him not to

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His dying wife's wish was for him to stop 😭

alpine trench
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Again, complicated people and complicated actions

scenic dirge
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Fuck powerscaling. We’re doing Oden vs Harald naivety scaling

shadow python
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After the pirate told him not to. Ida was proud of what he accomplished she just didn't think they needed to get rid of their pride

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Oden wins

alpine trench
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I’ve already done this, Harald always comes out looking worse

thick mango
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does nami get a pass on naivety scalign for being a child

alpine trench
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She was a child

scenic dirge
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Nope

scenic dirge
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Once you pass 5 years old you can’t be falling for stuff anymore

azure wasp
alpine trench
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Also, we’re looking at this from the perspective of outside omniscient observers

shadow python
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Fair is fair we should count Nami too. Her bad actions consist of stealing a used book and robbing criminals

sage temple
alpine trench
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Where we can see what the fuck went wrong and where exactly

thick mango
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she worked for a decade thinking she could buy the freedom of herself and her town which was never gona happen

alpine trench
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She was an innocent child

scenic dirge
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Nami’s situation is way more tragic tho because genuinely what was she supposed to do. She had absolutely no power, support, or influence and the east blue law enforcement were so useless or corrupt

alpine trench
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That’s different

sage temple
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Fascinating

shadow python
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Oden knew Orochi for most of Orochis life. He was always an underhanded slimeball trying to better himself with lies and deceipt

alpine trench
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Harald was the king of a wholeass nation who had self hatred

thick mango
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he was kinda bad in the beginning but overcorrected

azure wasp
alpine trench
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And exorcised that self hatred and retaliation towards the larger society of Elbaf by aligning quite naively to the WG in hopes of getting a better reputation among the world and opening the country

shadow python
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Said Orochi was holding Wano citizens hostage and in the best case scenario would rule for 5 years and then just leave. I don't even know if Luffy would buy that

shadow python
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Could giant poop fertilize a small country?

vital heart
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I HATE HARALD

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I HATE HARALD

alpine trench
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Shut the fuck up meek

tidal ice
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you should practice more love

sage temple
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Gosh Meek

vital heart
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I LOVE HARALD

thick mango
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aloha, indeed.

vital heart
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I LOVE HARALD

alpine trench
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Dude

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Stop

vital heart
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whats that one phrase in hawaiian

alpine trench
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Talk normally

vital heart
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that means I love harald

shadow python
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Get in line Harald already has 2 wives

azure wasp
# sage temple His greed sickens me

Not to mention his strength was top of the world, his nation among the strongest.
He did not need to do all that. He had centuries to accomplish it. He could spend 400 years helping but sacrificed everything in 20 years

vital heart
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this is where you are wrong

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spam =/= 2 messages

sage temple
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4

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So yeah it does

alpine trench
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I want Elbaf to end soon so meek can ban himself real fast

vital heart
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You saw that convo?

sage temple
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Amen brother

vital heart
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Yeah

scenic dirge
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They both were naive for thinking the people they were dealing with would honor their promises. But I think Oden’s situation was probably a bit tougher because like… it’s fucking Kaido and the citizens lives were ACTUALLY endangered. So Oden kind of had to take the risk that someone even as depraved as Orochi would keep his word

vital heart
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At the end of Elbaf, I'm banned and I'm no longer with TCB.

#

So

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Will be the end of my era.

scenic dirge
#

Until it became apparent that he obviously wasn’t

vital heart
#

It's my God Valley, my Loguetown, my Marineford.

alpine trench
#

Thank God

sage temple
alpine trench
#

He’s really merciful

scenic dirge
#

Wdym you’re banned lol?

sage temple
#

I was fixing to become a mod so I could ban him myself before he leaves

alpine trench
#

He’s banning himself ie leaving forever

vital heart
#

I asked the staff in this server to ban me once the arc concludes.

scenic dirge
#

Oh

shadow python
#

He did not. Even after giving them 5 years prep time and losing the faith of the Wano warriors Oden still put up a decent fight against Kaidos forces when he actually stepped up and tried. If he had fought from the beginning or god forbid asked Roger/Whitebeard for help it'd have been a wash

vital heart
#

I'll have Red do a permaban too

alpine trench
#

YEEEEEEAH

#

I’m gonna celebrate that day

sage temple
#

Evan can you make me temporary staff for the day Elbaph ends so I can carry that duty out

vital heart
#

šŸ’€

tidal ice
#

you guys love each other don't you

azure wasp
sage temple
#

It'd be an honor to punish the unpunished

scenic dirge
#

Well I currently can’t make you a mod given I’m no longer an admin so you wouldn’t be able to ban anyone

vital heart
#

It's giving animalistic speed gif

alpine trench
#

Oh my god bruh

scenic dirge
vital heart
#

Wait was Harald alive 20 years ago?

scenic dirge
#

Yes

tranquil blade
#

Are you deadass meek

vital heart
#

Why didn't he take over Wano

alpine trench
#

He died 14 years ago

alpine trench
#

Wait what

sage temple
#

Worst comment oat?

shadow python
#

After giving Kaido 5 years of prep he almost succeeded in winning. By Kaidos own account had they joined with Hyogoro right away they'd probably have won

tranquil blade
vital heart
#

Oden should've teamed up with Harald to beat Kaido lol

trim lily
azure wasp
vital heart
trim lily
#

probably not yeah

vital heart
#

Oden would've likely met Harald, because Harald has met Roger.

shadow python
#

But even that was late. When they dropped off Momo they knew that there was trouble in Wano Oden could have handled things there and then

scenic dirge
#

That’s just speculation. Who’s to say they wouldn’t have pulled the same underhanded tactics even 5 years ago

#

Oden ultimately lost primarily because he was tricked

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Power scaling aside

tidal ice
#

kaido is smarter than both KaidoSuccessBreedsJealousy

shadow python
#

When Vivi was pressed about her mission in Alabasta she didn't just ignore Drums plight when they got there the crew handled Wapol and then went back to what they were doing

cosmic hamlet
cosmic hamlet
alpine trench
#

Here we go with the stupid powerscaling shit again

shadow python
#

5 years ago they didn't have the weapons and supplies they did when Oden actually fought back. Orochi had 5 years to prepare for Oden they might not have even had Momos face at the time for not Mr. 2 to steal

scenic dirge
#

They likely could have done someone else then

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Like Toki

#

Given she returned to Wano earlier

cosmic hamlet
#

Its easy to plan to kill a good guy who is strong but takes time kill a cunning guy who is weak

shadow python
#

That's what we're saying giving them time just makes things harder. Oden should have dealt with the problem when he first got back to Wano

scenic dirge
#

Yeah he should have

alpine trench
#

Kaido could’ve killed Orochi as easily 25 years ago too

scenic dirge
#

When you apply hindsight lol

tranquil blade
scenic dirge
#

That’s the point of these discussions

#

Their decisions look foolish and naive IN HINDSIGHT

#

When you have reader omniscience

cosmic hamlet
alpine trench
#

One Piece fans when hindsight and retrospective

tranquil blade
#

Kaido only kills Orochi because Orochi was yelling at him and because he planned on having Yamato rule Wano eventually

shadow python
#

He made the wrong choice back then not helping right away. He made the wrong choice again giving Kaido 5 years prep time. He made his final bad choice not getting help from his allies and thinking he could beat Kaido by himself

alpine trench
#

He kept helping after his deal

#

Idk what you’re talking about

cosmic hamlet
shadow python
#

You think Luffy would agree to dance for 5 years? I think he'd beat Orochi at first opportunity but even if he didn't when he dropped off Momo he definitely would have fought when he returned

scenic dirge
#

He literally wasn’t willing to risk the lives of his people so he took a gamble. We the readers know with hindsight and further information that the ideal choice likely would have been to act sooner. But again, that’s the point here. If you want to judge him for being wrong… sure ig. But you can’t say he was stupid when you have the luxury of hindsight and he did not

cosmic hamlet
scenic dirge
#

Leaders have to make judgment calls without knowing all the answers

#

Same with Harald mostly but I think he was even more naive than Oden all things considered

cosmic hamlet
#

Luffy never faced a blackmail scenario right?LuffyThink

scenic dirge
#

Luffy has MC privilege

shadow python
#

It was stupid even then to trust Orochi. It was clear that he lied from the start and there was no reason to assume he wasn't lying now. He openly took the country hostage and leaving him to his own devices for 5 years on the hope he would choose to willing leave is idiotic

scenic dirge
#

Where he can punch his way to success

#

Other characters don’t

cosmic hamlet
shadow python
#

Closest is probably the birdcage where it was bring all of the starred people to doffy and he'd let the citizens go

scenic dirge
#

Actually Luffy doesn’t even have full MC privilege

#

He fucking failed to save Ace

shadow python
#

Luffy saved Ace

tranquil blade
shadow python
#

Ace just got himself killed right afterwards

scenic dirge
#

And by literally every account, him going to impel down was incredibly incredibly stupid

fallen meteor
#

Luffy feels like a dude that would just find the perfect answer to blackmail

cosmic hamlet
tranquil blade
#

Ace was a plot device destined to die

scenic dirge
#

Wasn’t Luffy’s fault sure

#

But he still ā€œfailedā€

tranquil blade
#

So while Luffy failed its like yeah it had to happen tho

scenic dirge
#

So I can’t even say Luffy has full MC immunity

shadow python
#

Impel down was amazing. Can you imagine what would have happened at Marineford if Luffy actually managed to break out Ace before the war

fallen meteor
#

Ace fell for a 'ur dad fat'

cosmic hamlet
tranquil blade
#

I mean Luffy is probably immune in the sense that Oda wont write him out of the story until the last chapter, but he cant save every single person

scenic dirge
#

I still think Akainu would have caught up to them lol. It’s obviously meant to come across as a provocation but like…

#

He’s an admiral

#

😭 😭

shadow python
#

Remember when Luffy charged up to fight 3 admirals at the same time with a log?

scenic dirge
#

Blame WB for not getting their sooner ig

#

Jk don’t

#

Never blame the goat for anything

scenic dirge
#

You just gotta go with it

cosmic hamlet
#

I forgot

#

Bb arrived after ace died?

shadow python
#

Yes

scenic dirge
#

Ye right after

shadow python
#

I mean he was already there just watching I guess but yes he appeared after Aces death

scenic dirge
#

Literally the chapter after

tranquil blade
#

Remember when the anime had whitebeard like steaming as if he was using gear 2nd

ruby moat
#

is he just saying "which of the three is captain" or is he suggesting there's a fourth unknown giant that was the captain of them at the time

shadow python
#

Gerd is in the middle so she must have been the captain at least at that time

cosmic hamlet
#

Does manga have these balloon holes?

tranquil blade
scenic dirge
#

If that wording is accurate I think it’s implying that none of those 3 are the captain at that point

tranquil blade
#

but Akainu gives Whitebeard two in the anime

ruby moat
#

i also think its the latter im wondering who it is maybe thatll be something we learn about

ashen rose
ruby moat
#

im not sure about the timeline but maybe it was loki

ashen rose
#

I think he's an actual balloon

cosmic hamlet
trim lily
shadow python
#

When was this? Harald should have been Alive and well 20 years ago

cobalt kelp
ruby moat
#

ah that woul dmake sense

tranquil blade
trim lily
#

that might actually make more sense

ashen rose
trim lily
#

i dont know how well youd function with only half your brain

ashen rose
#

Seriously he should be drenched in blood

shadow python
#

They straight up refused to show Luffy stabbing himself

trim lily
#

especially in a timeslot like OP's

shadow python
#

Nami got to do it though

ashen rose
#

It still is

trim lily
#

nah not to the same degree

ashen rose
tranquil blade
shadow python
#

Lost half his brain still smarter than Ace

shadow python
#

267 sword wounds? Learn to dodge dude

cosmic hamlet
# cobalt kelp

So he doesn't have those big holes, just stabs that go to other side

spice cairn
#

Back home sweet home

ashen rose
# cobalt kelp

So you're telling me one of the cannonballs that shot his chest is inside him?

cobalt kelp
#

And half his face gone

trim lily
ashen rose
cosmic hamlet
#

Toei censorship rules are weird

spice cairn
#

Wait are you Socrates

trim lily
#

common mistake

spice cairn
#

Why tf is your name Vortex

ashen rose
spice cairn
#

BUDDY

trim lily
#

vortex is like socrates but a positive force in the world

spice cairn
#

ITS THE SAME PFP

ashen rose
#

Nah not him

tranquil blade
#

I know he got hit by 40 cannon balls canonically but I feel like most of those must have at most burned a bit cause otherwise there would be nothing left of him

ashen rose
trim lily
#

unfortunately those two sword wounds are gonna count as scars on his back

spice cairn
#

You being so nice greeting me was freaking me out

shadow python
#

Cannon blasts doesn't mean he was hir by the cannon just in range of the explosion

spice cairn
#

I thought he turned a new leaf

ashen rose
#

Lmao

cosmic hamlet
spice cairn
ashen rose
shadow python
#

Cowards wounds are wounds from running away with your back turned. Like what Wb would have gotten from Garp at God valley

trim lily
#

whitebeard is pretty impressive to survive 152 of these

ashen rose
shadow python
#

Bullet ruined the movie pattern of movie villains becoming less and less impressive

tranquil blade
#

Why is Bullet so red

shadow python
#

He's embarrassed

ashen rose
#

Because he can't be placed here

spice cairn
#

I feel like Oda added 46 cannonball to glaze corpse upscaling

cobalt kelp
#

That's what the term means

ashen rose
spice cairn
#

Idk any other corpse in this series suffered as much

trim lily
#

i know i just wanted a chance to make fun of whitebeard..

sage temple
shadow python
#

Strong world: Rival of Roger

Film Z: A former Admiral

Film Gold: Some man

Film Red: some little girl

ashen rose
ashen rose
shadow python
#

But Bullet comes between Tesoro and Uta and is way more impressive than most probably more than anyone bar Shiki

cobalt kelp
trim lily
tranquil blade
#

Whitebeard has no cowards wounds but he does have the imprint of a fist he got coincidentally around the same time as god valley JuPeter

ashen rose
trim lily
#

wait no

sage temple
#

I was fixing up a new pfp for a new member

shadow python
#

I don't see how you get that from the pattern. It's growing less and less impressive so next villain should be a baby

ashen rose
shadow python
#

Maybe Makinos baby?

ashen rose
cobalt kelp
sage temple
#

I have never seen this helper before in my life

ashen rose
sage temple
ashen rose
#

I'm sure when Loki does more amazing shit next chapter we're going to see more fans

#

It can only go up from here

sage temple
#

Yeah I'm expecting something insane

shadow python
#

I don't think Loki will ever top this chapter

#

He killed an immortal that was stronger than Rocks

sage temple
trim lily
ashen rose
sage temple
#

Loki is logically so much stronger than how he was 16 years ago

trim lily
#

granted i doubt loki will/should do much

sage temple
shadow python
#

Yes he's probably stronger now. But I don't think he will ever surpass this feat

trim lily
#

im well aware of your position yes

sage temple
#

Also 16 - 21 is like one of the best positions for strength growth

shadow python
#

It is the 3rd most impressive feat in the series

sage temple
#

This is prime puberty I believe

ashen rose
shadow python
#

What could Loki do to top this?

sage temple
ashen rose
sage temple
#

Imu isn't really next up from Harald

ashen rose
#

We know he's going to be on the final war

sage temple
#

Loki could top it with a feat against the Gorosei

shadow python
#

Sure but he won't be doing the finishing shot

ashen rose
#

Plus, we still need to see his devil fruit

shadow python
#

Big Mom contributed to damaging Imu badly it didn't mean much for her. Just showed how much of a tank Imu was

sage temple
sage temple
shadow python
#

He could kill a gorosei and I'd still be less impressed than with what he did here

sage temple
#

Loki is the first to actually kill someone with regen now that I think about it

#

That's insane

ashen rose
#

There's also ragnir

sage temple
#

Glad Ragnir is sentient now lol

shadow python
#

Yes it is. And the one he killed was Harald a man on par with Rocks

#

Only stronger because he also got an Imu power up

dense rapids
ashen rose
sage temple
shadow python
#

Chopper will be the one to show us how to kill immortals

#

Gyaban was a disappointment in that regard

sage temple
#

I don't lie like your Buggy posse

ashen rose
sage temple
#

He even clashed with Harald without the DF or Ragnir

#

Although it wasn't shown as Haki juiced, according to Thigh, "I'm more surprised if anyone is not using haki when they clearly know how to"

shadow python
#

Can you imbue haki into lightning?

sage temple
prisma yacht
#

Yeah killing a gorosei who wld be constantly using conq for defending himself and also has better regen will be more impressive

ashen rose
sage temple
#

Big Mom imbued Haki into lightning from Hera

#

So yeah it's definitely possible

shadow python
#

I don't think you can. Big Moms kids confused Namis thunderbolt for their moms so despite Namis lack of haki it was of similar power

#

I would also think Luffy wouldn't be immune to haki lightning

ashen rose
#

I think he can shoot conqueror Haki as if it was actual lightning

#

Also I think Haki lightning would be kinda of overkill

sage temple
#

I don't know about yall but this seems like it's imbued with CoC

shadow python
#

So if Enel finds a way to do it his offensive power would surpass Big Moms

golden valley
#

Enel doesn’t have coc

shadow python
#

I see the black yes. But as a feat it looks less impressive than other performances from Nami or Enel

ashen rose
sage temple
shadow python
#

Big Mom never showed anything more impressive than lightning. Though I guess it's still more accurate to say surpass Hera

sage temple
#

It can be assumed that Big Mom's lightning bolt stretched on for a few kilometers

sage temple
shadow python
#

I mean sure but the hole Nami and Enel made looked bottomless

golden valley
#

BM’s is way bigger than Nami’s in scale

sage temple
#

What BM and Nami feats are we talking abt

shadow python
#

Big Mom wasn't part of Kaidos top 5 I'm not sure she can ACoC. Though at this point it seems uncertain if you can imbue haki into lightning in any case

sage temple
#

Big Mom's Fulgora?

shadow python
#

Namis lightning in Whole cake that was confused for Big Moms and Enels Kingdom Come that destroyed an island

golden valley
#

yeah

sage temple
#

Oh ok

sage temple
#

It's just size

shadow python
#

Big Mom never showed anything of the size Nami did but considering the kids assumed it was her I would imagine she can do it

sage temple
#

Arguably can't we say Ragnir produces bigger bolts than both of them since it's the scale of a giant island?

shadow python
#

Is that from Squirrel or Lokis devil fruit or nature? I don't think there's enough context there

blazing depot
#

Wow I can’t believe Zoro was the eyepatch man the whole time

sage temple
shadow python
#

Though since we mentioned it according to Gyaban the only way to kill an immortal is with Acoc so we should infer that it is possible to imbue lightning and Big Mom just chooses not to

sage temple
#

Isn't this imbuing lightning with CoC?

shadow python
#

It being the squirrel is problematic as it's less Loki killed Harald and more Squirrel killed Harald

sage temple
golden valley
sage temple
#

Without Loki the squirrel wouldn't have caused any significant damage

shadow python
#

That is substantially bigger than I thought still don't thibk its island size but it is better than Namis

spice cairn
sage temple
spice cairn
#

What is the topoc

#

Are we glazing the best Yonko, Big Mom?

golden valley
#

I see BM misinformation

#

I correct

spice cairn
#

Correct it NOW

#

We can't let people continue it

shadow python
#

This is unfortunate news

#

I had wanted Nami to beat Summers but I don't think she can now

spice cairn
#

She isn't.

golden valley
spice cairn
#

Sommers is Sanji's opponent

sage temple
#

Definitely, Ragnir is on a different level

spice cairn
#

And Sommers will die to Sanji probably.

cosmic hamlet
shadow python
#

Sanji doesn't have CoC much less ACoC he's just as helpless as Nami

spice cairn
prisma yacht
#

Sanji usopp are getting conq dw

spice cairn
#

Sorry to spoil the strongest mechanic to you sooner than later

prisma yacht
shadow python
#

That is an option yes

blazing depot
#

We will all celebrate when Sommers dies a horrific painful death

prisma yacht
#

no why

shadow python
#

But I'd still have rather it been Nami

spice cairn
prisma yacht
#

he is so chill

spice cairn
#

I love that Nami Forcibly enslaved adopted Zeus

blazing depot
#

Saint Sommers was a decent hardworking man

cosmic hamlet
olive sigil
prisma yacht
#

šŸ‘€

spice cairn
cosmic hamlet
olive sigil
#

Can’t wait for Usopp to do the same thing to Ragnir

quiet ice
shadow python
#

Nami will be the new Big Mom EoS

spice cairn
blazing depot
#

You raise Ragnir now… but soon

olive sigil
spice cairn
#

Will you be my Servant

OR DIE?

shadow python
#

Which Charlotte sibling is 20? Do they look remotely like Nami?

cosmic hamlet
# spice cairn

Its like you are asking your kid to behave well if you want chocolate or ice cream

olive sigil
cosmic hamlet
spice cairn
#

I like to imagine Zeus is effectively her child now.

olive sigil
spice cairn
#

Kind of wish he interacted a bit more

cosmic hamlet
olive sigil
ashen rose
spice cairn
cosmic hamlet
# olive sigil Slave

I wouldn't say zeus is a slave but i guess you can call road as a slave to nami QueenKEKW

olive sigil
ashen rose
olive sigil
prisma yacht
#

Lol

shadow python
#

I don't really like Zeus. Namis powers were cool because she used her weather knowledge to create ideal conditions for herself. With Zeus she just says go and he attacks

spice cairn
ashen rose
olive sigil
cosmic hamlet
#

Why do you need loki fan art when oda himself drew him so well in many panels

ashen rose
spice cairn
cosmic hamlet
golden valley
ashen rose
#

I think I'm the only Loki agenda mf here that drew him

cosmic hamlet
#

You can color the oda panels

golden valley
#

Nami’s creativity is even more anomie than before with Zeus

olive sigil
cosmic hamlet
ashen rose
olive sigil
shadow python
#

Remember when Nami could make clouds?

ashen rose
ashen rose
olive sigil
ashen rose
# ashen rose

It isn't finished yet but I'll get there eventually

olive sigil
haughty saddle
#

LokiTrue

cosmic hamlet
ashen rose
spice cairn
olive sigil
#

Who’s the bastard who sad reacted my drawing ChopperAngery

ashen rose
olive sigil
#

I worked really hard on it

olive sigil
#

His biological mother

ashen rose
# olive sigil

Wait, is jimbe the fish on the wall or Sally? Who tf is sally supposed to be?

ashen rose
#

Sandy

#

Goddamit

olive sigil
#

Jinbe is the fish

#

Sandy is Ragnir

ashen rose
#

Oh

olive sigil
#

Who’s sally KizaruWHUH

ashen rose
#

That makes sense

cosmic hamlet
olive sigil
#

TELL ME WHO’S SALLY

ashen rose
#

Squirrel girl

cosmic hamlet
olive sigil
#

Vortex what do you think the fruit is?

ashen rose
#

Hmmmm

ashen rose
#

Hopefully not a logia

olive sigil
#

I have 3 options in mind

olive sigil
ashen rose
dark nymph
olive sigil
#

You’re evil

ashen rose
#

Probably fenrir

olive sigil
ashen rose
#

But I really want him to have any other devil fruit that isn't a zoan tbh

shadow python
#

She is the biggest mom in the world. Hence she is the real big mom

olive sigil
#

I have 3 options

dark nymph
shadow python
#

Big Mom probably only got her title after she died

dark nymph
#

last chapter kinda confirmed it highkey

ashen rose
trim lily
#

id rather nidhogg than fenrir if we have to get a zoan

#

at least theres some fun potential with the root dragon

ashen rose
cosmic hamlet
unique lagoon
#

mythical logia
its real ZoroCope

olive sigil
ashen rose
#

The Castel has scratch marks, so he definitely has fangs

dark nymph
#

I was joking about zoan piece but its no longer a joke, Oda hates paramecias and Logias

ashen rose
cosmic hamlet
ashen rose
trim lily
#

deer logia

olive sigil
trim lily
#

yes

#

we need special logias

olive sigil
# ashen rose Who?

I think it’s either a mythical cow, a mythical moose or cloud logia

unique lagoon
#

the character design vs the fan art G5Laugh

olive sigil
dark nymph
#

rip her square head

olive sigil
#

Oda deserves to burn for killing her

ashen rose
#

Ignore the fenrir at the bottom

olive sigil
olive sigil
unique lagoon
#

how many claws does a dog have anyway

olive sigil
#

Everything is a cow

trim lily
#

ohh a cow

dark nymph
#

mythical cow is massive aura loss for Loki

trim lily
#

cow logia

olive sigil
ashen rose
olive sigil
trim lily
#

there actually is a mythical cow in norse mythology so it could work

ashen rose
#

a deer I can sorta see it, kinda, somewhat having aura

#

Basically better chopper

olive sigil
trim lily
cosmic hamlet
#

Did kaido lose aura with fish fruit?

ashen rose
#

A fucking cow and I'm going to write a strongly worded email to oda

cosmic hamlet
#

!koido

olive sigil
#

People go to freaking colosseums to see cows fight

unique lagoon
#

this is a wolf claw mark

dark nymph
unique lagoon
#

dragons on the other hand

#

3

cosmic hamlet
dark nymph
#

Oda robbed us of Koido

ashen rose
olive sigil
ashen rose
dark nymph
cosmic hamlet
#

I wonder if ragnir fruit is even mythical or a normal fruit

unique lagoon
#

but 3 claws

trim lily
olive sigil
#

Vortex what does Loki do all the time with his tongue?

ashen rose
trim lily
#

depends on how on the nose oda wants to be with the ratatoskr reference

unique lagoon
#

they aint ready for bird mode loki

trim lily
#

velociraptor zoan

ashen rose
olive sigil
#

Guess what

ashen rose
#

I am afraid

unique lagoon
#

cows dont have claws silly smh

ashen rose
olive sigil
olive sigil
dark nymph
#

Loki is probably not gonna show his DF until deep into the end of the arc, so we got like 4 months at least of Oda blueballing it

olive sigil
#

Loki ate the audhumbla fruit

cosmic hamlet
unique lagoon
#

you telling me lokis hybrid looks like a Satyr

ashen rose
#

Based tbh

#

Hope they never address this

cosmic hamlet
ashen rose
keen quiver
#

I worry for main manga

ashen rose
#

It's a shape shifting paramecia guys

keen quiver
#

Losing an arm = you lost nothing

ashen rose
dark nymph
#

wait Surtr has horns, maybe there's still hope

ashen rose
#

Knew it

keen quiver
#

If this is about the df loki ate

ashen rose
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Main is just powerscalling

keen quiver
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Still on nidhogg

ashen rose
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Cool ass dragon

olive sigil
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Mythical cow

keen quiver
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Top 3 worst breaks

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In a while

dark nymph
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would be wild if Oda gave us another Dragon

keen quiver
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Might be approaching void month levels

ashen rose
tidal onyx
dark nymph
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I might read spoilers icl this break is rough... i'm starting to tweak

keen quiver
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Its just speculation piece without a chapter kills me

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Slowly

hazy echo
ashen rose
olive sigil
ashen rose
keen quiver
dark nymph
prisma yacht
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It's okay