also-manga

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-imu-transforms-into-a-demonic-monster-one-piece-imu-the-king-of-the-empty-throne-one-piece-imu-vs-sabo-one-piece-imu-monster-form-one-piece-imu-transforming-into-a-monster-gif-467185852685691057

Imu can probably be a big ass dragon

https://tenor.com/view/luffy-luffy-gear-5-luffy-gear-5-white-onigashima-roof-piece-gif-4356228528425984645

Luffy awakened gear 5 at night🌓 + he fought a big ass dragon

[dapper tree]

king ghidorhah????

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/ryuma-one-piece-monster-dragon-zoro-gif-3935624643312806968

Zoro’s ancestor is known for slaying a dragon 👀

[dapper tree]

imu an alien btw

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-sabaody-charlos-charlos-one-piece-ugly-gif-776397468884524639

Zoro almost slays a “dragon”

[small ember]

Tiger man theory is coming back I see

[dapper tree]

he did kill one

[glacial bear]

COOK 🔥

[final trench]

Actually didnt he kill the punk hazard dragon??

[final trench]

Ye

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/let-him-cook-cook-cookin-big-wok-gif-141999319614473134

[dapper tree]

oh boy

now zoro kills imu will be a thing

[final trench]

Not just tiger man, just that

D clan/their allies = the tigers

And the CD/WG = the dragons

🌓🌓

[prisma idol]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-godzilla-three-headed-dragon-laugh-gif-16788819

[sly belfry]

wdym will be

[small ember]

I don’t mind this theory ngl

[dapper tree]

whoops

[sly belfry]

been a thing since 809

[dapper tree]

already is

[small ember]

https://tenor.com/view/king-ghidorah-ghidorah-lightning-volcano-kaiju-gif-2559928746157546740

Top 10 aura farmer

[prisma idol]

Maffey has the Godzilla zoan

Trust

[dapper tree]

no

she does not deserve that

[prisma idol]

Too late

Already said it so it is done

[final trench]

I wonder if imu domi reversi’s the CDs if they can turn into dragons 🤔

[prisma yacht]

Maffey is already dead

So it's gonna be alright

[dapper tree]

it's not and yeah, she dead

[prisma idol]

She isn't

Maffey is not dead

[prisma yacht]

You wish

https://tenor.com/view/muehehehe-gif-4405977563994366182

[prisma idol]

She isn't

[prisma yacht]

She is

[final trench]

Hmmm

Im not opposed to this

Would be cool

[prisma idol]

Nope

[dapper tree]

ok not dead but is gonna look like old buckingham

short old lady

[prisma idol]

[dapper tree]

ugly as sin

sorry sin

[prisma yacht]

https://x.com/i/status/2010317619556131275

ひがし田 (@higashida_623)

🏴‍☠️

X · Jan 11, 2026, 11:47 AM

they look so dope

[final trench]

Fuck it slipped my mind

[digital spear]

AURA

[final trench]

This nigga killingham has a dragon zoan

https://tenor.com/view/lil-yachty-drake-laptop-duh-gif-8033838636860661307

[digital spear]

Still in her prime but everyone will say shes weaker because shes ugly

[dapper tree]

her prime is just barely stronger than doffy

so

[final trench]

Perhaps

[digital spear]

Idk if its stronger than Doffy, he is Yonko level and has acoc strings

[prisma yacht]

Heavenly dragon fs

[digital spear]

Everyone thought Kaido would have the mythical ryu ryu no mi but then it was the mythical fish fruit and now Killingham is the one with ryu

[dapper tree]

oh I forgot that happened when doffy killed a gorosei when he broke out of prison when shanks went to visit his old friend magallen

[prisma yacht]

correct

[final trench]

Which is crazy tbh but i dont mind it

I wonder who had the T-Rex fruit

[dapper tree]

that guy ace killed

[tranquil blade]

Everyone is yonko level

[dapper tree]

whatever his name was, meek was all over him for a while

[prisma idol]

Mjosgard?

Hanafuda?

[dapper tree]

no

YEAH

him

[tranquil blade]

Bro forgot Hanafuda's name

[spice cairn]

https://x.com/i/status/2010204175708393900

🇲🇽Doroz DACL 🍉 (@DorozDACL)

#onepiece
Colored it cuz I actually really liked it idk

X · Jan 11, 2026, 4:16 AM

[final trench]

Honestly i do like shaurons theory of kidd killing hanafuda

[final trench]

Nah he didnt kill em but he somehow beat him

[dapper tree]

he was a jobber

[tranquil blade]

He was tuff

[dapper tree]

don't take this away from ace

[spice cairn]

Hanafuda was awesome leave him alone

[final trench]

Ace didnt kill him

He just beat em

And then denied his warlord status because aura

[spice cairn]

You're mad that he was a T-Rex

[digital spear]

Ace beat him anyway but let him live and Hanafuda died to someone else

[dapper tree]

don't take this fromn ace

[final trench]

But yea hanafuda’s design was tuff

[prisma yacht]

So chonky

[dapper tree]

me

[final trench]

Yea bro got killed tryna visit his daughters💔💔

[digital spear]

Why did you take this from Ace

[final trench]

Which again i rather kidd then some miscellaneous ass pirates

[dapper tree]

I deseved it more than kid

[final trench]

But oda be trollda

[digital spear]

You don't ngl

[spice cairn]

https://x.com/i/status/1899078655378145391

たおる (@taoru0239)

X · Mar 10, 2025, 12:43 PM

[final trench]

Like brah this nigga TOO TUFF

[spice cairn]

Ace is like his father btw

Canonical home wrecker

[final trench]

Imagine if he was on kaidos crew still

[dapper tree]

top 1?

[small ember]

Before the evil ace murdered a proud father

[spice cairn]

Yeah Ace is the biggest home wrecker atp

Gaslit Yamato and killed Hanafuda

Insane work

[small ember]

“Yamato I would never gaslight you, you’re crazy. Stop making this up.”

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/chambonizer/status/2010223585747681322/photo/1

JAKA (@chambonizer)

Happy birthday you gorgeous gal 🫦

X · Jan 11, 2026, 5:33 AM

[dapper tree]

bunch of bums

[tranquil blade]

drone

[spice cairn]

She was hugging a plush of her dad

[final trench]

Relax

I might cry

[digital spear]

Idk when Oda plans to reveal Hanafuda had the Trex fruit

[final trench]

Hopefully we get more kaido lore and we can see a glimpse of hanafuda

[spice cairn]

He was king of the merchants

So its appropriate that he had a Trex

[final trench]

THATS THE LIZARD KING

[small ember]

Bread stacking fruit

[final trench]

Ulti and page one are scabbards now so they can mention him too

[scenic dirge]

His shoulders and mask look goofy af lol

[final trench]

🤔

[digital spear]

Hamster named Tyrannosaurus

Hamsterfuda with the Trex fruit

[spice cairn]

Guinea Pig Ulti

[dapper tree]

no hanafuda just had a mouse zoan

[digital spear]

Every warlord is named after an animal and Hanafuda is Hamster

[olive sigil]

What if tyrannosaurus ate a trex fruit. Wouldn’t that be the cutest thing

[digital spear]

Holy shit I hope he does

[spice cairn]

https://x.com/i/status/1824684753678897436

Raine (@R_a_ine)

💙🐹

X · Aug 17, 2024, 5:48 AM

[prisma thistle]

lowkey interesting

[digital spear]

Ofc Raine already did it

[olive sigil]

Now that hanafuda died that fruit can make its way to water 7

[spice cairn]

Into Iceberg's mouth?

[digital spear]

No

[olive sigil]

his mouth

[spice cairn]

Oh shit right his little fucking hamster

Why wasnt he the assistant

[olive sigil]

Who’s named tyrannosaurus

[digital spear]

Hes the mayor

[olive sigil]

He’s a pet

[distant vine]

DRAGON QUEST MENTIONED

[spice cairn]

Thats quite a big task for such a small animal

Can he handle all of water 7s politics

[dapper tree]

look at him

yes he can

[distant vine]

https://tenor.com/view/yangus-dragon-quest-dq8-king-trode-gif-10294720598010017713

[dapper tree]

all dressed up

[digital spear]

Ragnir after his Stocks rose up

[spice cairn]

https://x.com/i/status/2010284692038377937

ほたジャニ (@hotajaniOP)

#ほぼ日ワンピきみにきめた
1.9 マウンブルテン&モロバレル🍄
ウソップはキノコが嫌いなはずだから、この組み合わせを見かけたら偽物です

X · Jan 11, 2026, 9:36 AM

https://x.com/i/status/2010286215648678281

ほたジャニ (@hotajaniOP)

#ほぼ日ワンピきみにきめた
1.11 イトミミズ&ドゴーム🔈
さぁさ！盛り上がってまいりました！デービーバックファイトォ〜‼︎

X · Jan 11, 2026, 9:42 AM

Birthday updates

[digital spear]

These are so good

[spice cairn]

https://x.com/i/status/2010285657730789593

ほたジャニ (@hotajaniOP)

#ほぼ日ワンピきみにきめた
1.10 キッド&メルタン🔩
仲良さげなのがいいね
ガサツな男に可愛い相方って最高！

X · Jan 11, 2026, 9:40 AM

[digital spear]

https://x.com/i/status/2008918592491004013

ほたジャニ (@hotajaniOP)

#ほぼ日ワンピきみにきめた
1.8 イワンコフ&メガオニゴーリ
オニゴーリ&メガイワンコフかもしれない

X · Jan 7, 2026, 3:08 PM

[prisma yacht]

iva chan

[spice cairn]

Soul

[digital spear]

January 7th (Mozu); September 1st (Kiwi)

Wtf theyre really no twins

Theyre 1 year apart

[sly belfry]

they're called square sisters not square twins

[steel stirrup]

Mozu and Kiwi my Queens

[distant vine]

Nobody said Happy Birthday to Kid yesterday afaik

[digital spear]

I did

[distant vine]

Glad to see the community is healing

[distant vine]

Oh

[digital spear]

Youre leaving? Lets goooo 🙏🏻

[digital spear]

Aura

Wow its a gif

[dapper tree]

[olive sigil]

Is it?

[digital spear]

OMG ITS ... Shanks ....

[olive sigil]

Fun fact about tyrannosaurus

When I was a kid I thought people with hamsters actually walked around town with the hamsters in their pocket

Oda lied to me

[digital spear]

Normalize taking your little pets as companions on your shoulder

[pseudo gulch]

Do the bacteria in your guts count as your little pets

[olive sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/yasopp-yasopp-one-piece-one-piece-red-haired-pirates-shanks-gif-3238915703997661654

[digital spear]

Top 10 in the verse

[olive sigil]

Ok I start

Luffy

[digital spear]

Shanks is almost Imu level, Beckman Lucky Yasopp are Yonko level, the others Admiral level

[olive sigil]

Yasopp?

[frozen aspen]

shanks crew looks chopped

being a deadbewt makes u uglier ig

[olive sigil]

Be for real

[digital spear]

Deadbeat Pirates

Deadbeat sounds like a cool epithet but all it means is you are not a good father

[cold steppe]

Yassop with the Japanese idol pose

[olive sigil]

Dead beat is also the style of music that brook plays

[dapper tree]

https://tenor.com/view/brook-brook-one-piece-skull-joke-its-a-skull-joke-one-piece-gif-20676104

[fast pagoda]

Building Snake is one of thr worst names ever

[spice cairn]

Max Marx vs Building Snake

[distant vine]

No its not

[spice cairn]

He compensates by being the best looking of the crew besides Benn

[cold steppe]

I used to think he's blind the first time he was introduced

[spice cairn]

Mind you this what he looked like super early in

Biggest OP glowup

[cold steppe]

Well not the first time. But the marineford moment

[fast pagoda]

He has more charm here

He looks like Apoo

[spice cairn]

Nah man he looks like a chud

[prisma yacht]

Whattt

[spice cairn]

He became so cool afterwards

[spice cairn]

Theres no way you prefer his RD design over this one

[distant vine]

Me erasing Oda's manuscripts for every other character during Shanks vs BB so Blackbeard cant use Offscreen Haki

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-this-is-for-your-own-good-patrick-star-pencil-erase-gif-15957162

[prisma yacht]

Tae look a dragon

[spice cairn]

Awkward posing but still nice

[prisma yacht]

fire

[spice cairn]

Shanks picked up some insane looking chads on his journey

[olive sigil]

He is

[distant vine]

This but its Shanks vs BB and BB is like "I just need to turn the page!"

[digital spear]

Did the dragon tattoo move higher on his body

[spice cairn]

Ivan moves the tattoo occasionally

Not sure if they can potentially move tattoo placements but thats my HC

[blazing depot]

You will all turn on Ragnir eventually…

[distant vine]

I like Ragnir

I'm not upscaling him like the fanatics though

[blazing depot]

I mean in the broad sense

I’m talking about THEM

[olive sigil]

I thought this said you will turn into Ragnir

[sacred sail]

“The only thing people love more than a GOAT is to a see a GOAT washed, become a bum, get no diffed”

[digital spear]

Green Goblin gaslighting Peter into letting his inner squirrel take over

[tranquil blade]

This is probably what he actually used to look like

and then he got big

[spice cairn]

Yeah, Shanks fed him well

[blazing depot]

Squirrel Girl!

[spice cairn]

I think Shanks made everyone on the crew go from babies to men overnight

Thats what I like to think anyways

[tranquil blade]

Even Roux got bigger

[spice cairn]

He made them go through a training montage

[digital spear]

They went to the Elbaf gym

[distant vine]

I hope the Red Hairs get to really show off

[spice cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/doing-jumping-jacks-charlie-smiling-friends-warming-up-exercising-gif-11815257063101623066

Shanks Pirates on Eblaf

https://x.com/i/status/2010327109374443583

たおる (@taoru0239)

X · Jan 11, 2026, 12:25 PM

[olive sigil]

Let’s be optimistic guys about the strawhats. Maybe what Louis arnot was talking about is that if you overstay your time on Elbaf you will get training dilation. By the end of the arc every strawhat will look tough. Usopp will look like Kaido with the dilation

[spice cairn]

Yeah thats what the Shanks pirate experienced

It only makes sense

I think Oda wants to expose the secrets of Shank's fruit of labor and thats having a vacation on Eblaf

[olive sigil]

Chopper will look like monster point even in his base form

[spice cairn]

Chopper will look more realistic

[olive sigil]

That’s the live action

[spice cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-pre-timeskip-sanji-usopp-kick-gif-7003495439955808249

[spice cairn]

Nah

This is the Eblaf Skip chopper

[sacred sail]

Every chapter will take a month as Oda will need to draw each individual hair on Chopper as well as make sure there are no misplaced particles of light

[distant vine]

Concept Chopper seriously should exist

Just make him a Mink

[spice cairn]

Just make him a rabbit

With white hair with electric powers

And can Sulong in the moonlight, carrying the wishes of her fallen inspiration/mentor as a future king of Zou

I think Oda can really make Chopper really cool with this never before done concept

[past maple]

Ok

[blazing depot]

Wow I wonder why Usopp left in water 7

[spice cairn]

Not sure how old this image specifically is but Kuina being there is kind of cool

[trim lily]

back when she was remembered

[scenic dirge]

Oda hates Zoro

[trim lily]

famously

[spice cairn]

Balances out by Zoro's massive fandom

[spice cairn]

I walk like this on the beach

[woven heron]

[olive sigil]

See this needs muscles

He need to be beefed up

[spice cairn]

You raise a fair point

Will everyone get muscles?

[shell sinew]

This would be even funnier if you scaled ragnir up to canon size tho

[fast pagoda]

I feel like the OP TCG just spawned one day

[wraith mantle]

@olive sigil lets read spoilers this week

[spice cairn]

Nah

Its moreso Pokemon scalpers jumping on it.

Pokemon collectors that exist to make money and profit off any hobby of value does that.

Once Logan Paul actually cares and goes after OP TCG, itll be over

[sage temple]

Ragnir is way too cute to be so damn big

😭

[fast pagoda]

Yeah it sucks

Idc about card games but I'll scalp all the Gunko cards

So no one else can get them

When they come out

[spice cairn]

Like if I see him one day announce collecting OPTCG, im going to be depressed

[rain cedar]

What even is the point of scalping tbh. Aside from the fact that it isn't even fun, you end up on a loss as well

[fast pagoda]

Greed

[spice cairn]

You generally scalp and bank on the rarity of the item going up and profitting

[steel stirrup]

Niggas will do anything for money

[fast pagoda]

I know what OP characters would be scalpers

[spice cairn]

You underestimate what people will do for money

[fast pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-op-anime-vegapunk-york-gif-5631100113471390904

[rain cedar]

Fucking wild

[fast pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/wapol-wapol-one-piece-one-piece-poor-dog-gif-14790569127800787780

[spice cairn]

Disgusting PIG

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/york-one-piece-york-vegapunk-punk-06-yosuyosudraw-qazira-gif-211912794502877691

[steel stirrup]

Kaido would be the Strongest Scalper

[sweet anvil]

Gunko is lame anyways

They should make a barbell card

[rain cedar]

Nah, it's apoo

He has the face of a scalper as well

[blazing depot]

Nami

[fast pagoda]

This reminds me

[rain cedar]

Nami would never invest that much money in the first place LOL

[fast pagoda]

Do any of yall know Green Lantern stuff

Im trying to assign OP characters to lantern colors

[blazing depot]

https://tenor.com/view/nami-cat-burglar-one-piece-smile-happy-gif-17647965

[spice cairn]

Nami when she sees the 24k gold Labubu

[blazing depot]

The only issue is that Nami is nice to kids, so I don’t think she’s cruel to steal boxes from them

[sweet anvil]

Nami would scam resellers

[rain cedar]

I haven't read all of the comics but ik it's like 7 emotions for the colours. I think Luffy would be blue

Because hope

[blazing depot]

Does seeing the Green Lantern 2011 movie while high count?

[olive sigil]

Let’s not

[olive sigil]

All of them

He would look very cool

[sacred sail]

Green is willpower/bravery, Yellow is fear, Blue is hope, Orange is greed, Black is death, White is light/life and basically an extension of God, Red is rage, Star Saphire (or what ever the color is) is love, and they introduced a new color for sadness in the past few years but I forget what it was. There’s also indigo, purple, and I think some others but they escape me and I forget what stuff is tied to them.

[grand flower]

I’d trust him

[sacred sail]

You’ll have to look up the others

[spice cairn]

Orange is Greed

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/bh187-family-guy-stewie-stewie-griffin-excited-gif-14974976441302565243

[sacred sail]

Yeah I said that

[fast pagoda]

I know the colors I'm just unsure what some characters should be

[glacial bear]

I’m already depressed. There’s been cards that were like 200 that shot up to 2K and I’m like WHAT

they gotta be smoking something if they think imma pay that much 😭

[olive sigil]

Isn’t black betrayal?

[rain cedar]

It's death no?

[sacred sail]

It’s death

There was a whole event around it

I’m a big DC guy

[rain cedar]

Buddy

[olive sigil]

Oh I thought you were talking about miss goldenweek

[wraith mantle]

bad bad boy

[spice cairn]

https://x.com/i/status/2009702738297528807

Squash-😃 (@Vitamin__C_)

my friends other friend got this shit. genuinely fuck these pokebros

X · Jan 9, 2026, 7:04 PM

[rain cedar]

[glacial bear]

WHAT

so they’re intentionally manipulating the price market

[fast pagoda]

So far I got uhh
Green - Zoro and Kid
Blue - Jinbe
Red - Kaido and Sakazuki
Yellow - Usopp and Big Mom
Violet - Sanji and Hancock
Indigo - Issho
Orange - Nami
Black - Imu and Gorosei
White - Luffy

[blazing depot]

Scalping is such loser behavior

[glacial bear]

At this point I honestly might transition from collecting one piece cards to just buying figures

[sacred sail]

Well at that point it’s more of a One Piece knowledge thing than a GL knowledge thing. But, if we’re doing just one character per color, Luffy would be green, Nami would be Orange, Blackbeard would be Yellow, Koby would be blue, Kaido would be red, Bon Clay or Ivankov would be Star Saphire, Imu would be black, and uhhhhh Akainu would be red. These are all off the top of my head

[blazing depot]

I think with Pokemon too it’s especially stupid

Like popular Pokemon like Pikachu and Charizard get inflated like crazy. The new set has Zygarde on it and apparently it’s “bad” cuz scalpers don’t recognize it

[olive sigil]

Kidd has to be red no?

[glacial bear]

Kidd is purple I think

[blazing depot]

I also saw Logan Paul pitch a Gen 1 remake to Pokemon so I’m convinced most of them are Gen 1 boomers

[fast pagoda]

Yeah these arent bad choices, thoughts on mine

[glacial bear]

I hate the names the Pokemon bros are giving the one piece cards. Like Gengar Nami or Boa Lisa

[fast pagoda]

Maybe but I think green fits as well

[glacial bear]

Like yoo that is some cornball behavior!

[blazing depot]

That’s a thing?

[glacial bear]

Yep.

[blazing depot]

We are truly ruled by the stupidest people imaginable

[olive sigil]

I mean it’s a crime and something really nasty to do to someone. Someone who does that is more than a loser they’re a psychopath

[fast pagoda]

Thats hilarious lol

What a bunch of posers

[blazing depot]

They know Pikachu Charizard and maybeeeee Mewtwo but don’t know the rest

[sacred sail]

Only one I’d sorta disagree with is Usopp. More prone to being afraid than causing fear, but U can see the vision and it’d definitely fit his characterization given his tendency to grandstand and create illusions and stuff. Blue might fit him better though.

[fast pagoda]

Real fans would get the cards of like Simisear and Quilladin

[sacred sail]

Anyway, I got a flight that’s about to start.

[glacial bear]

It also appears that it’s becoming harder for even vendors to stock up on manga cards for example.

Since the prices are skyrocketing, a lot of people are holding onto their cards like a stock market. And when they do sell, they ask for like super insane prices on fucking shiny cardboard

[fast pagoda]

I think those are the 2 least popular mons

[sacred sail]

See y’all later

[blazing depot]

I only remember Simisear cuz he was the bottom of the popularity poll 😭

[glacial bear]

Cya emperor palpatine!

[rain cedar]

It's a crime?

Is scalping illegal?

[glacial bear]

It should be

[olive sigil]

I mean yeah of course

[glacial bear]

Just like Akainu hates Pirates. I hate scalpers

[olive sigil]

Why wouldn’t it be a crime

[glacial bear]

That’s my absolute justice

[rain cedar]

Yeah, but no one's gonna ban you for it

[olive sigil]

You’ll rot in prison if you do that

[fast pagoda]

Bye palps

[olive sigil]

Causing physical harm to someone is a crime

What’s funny about this

[rain cedar]

Are u baiting 😭

[glacial bear]

Card games in general is insane

[rain cedar]

I mean Obv yeah

[glacial bear]

Ugh, I might have to give up honestly. Unless I become super rich, I still don’t think it’s worth it

[rain cedar]

Yk I've always found trading for money to be...kinda soulless? Like i understand why people do it, but I think it genuinely takes away the fun

[fast pagoda]

I thought yellow actually fit Usopp doubly well cause even though hes a coward he wins by scaring his opponents

[sage temple]

There's a bunch of amazing card games on roblox

[fast pagoda]

Like with Sugar and Perona

[glacial bear]

One time I wanted to surprise my niece with a box of OP13 that we could open since she loves One Piece. Only to find they’re all out of stock at my local card shop

It’s insane how the Pokemon people legit bought em all up

[olive sigil]

I’m genuinely confused

[rain cedar]

Damn that sucks

Yeah that's what I mean

[olive sigil]

Why would you scalp someone

[fast pagoda]

For their skull and brain

[olive sigil]

Why would you want that

[rain cedar]

Bounty hunters like zoro

[blazing depot]

I worked at a convenience store last summer and I got so many people calling us to ask what pokemon cards we had in stock

[olive sigil]

Are we talking irl or in the manga? Either way it’s not something you should to someone

[glacial bear]

PEAK

[sage temple]

Had no idea these existed ngl

[glacial bear]

Never mind the Elbaph cards will look awesome

[rain cedar]

Scalping as in the card trading hobby

When you buy cards in bulk

[sage temple]

Something insane came across my desk tho

[high wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/one-peak-one-piece-one-piece-cry-its-so-peak-gif-13413926760013023520

[glacial bear]

I might have to save up before Loki gets his first card 😍

[sage temple]

https://kaizokukards.com/products/op13-loki-and-luffy

[rain cedar]

And leave nothing for other people

One piece TCG has absolutely gorgeous cards

[olive sigil]

That’s a thing? I thought it was about removing the scalp off someone’s head

[sage temple]

All the good Loki merch has been pre-ordered

There was a statue that was like 400 dollars and I wanted one but it was pre-ordered to oblivion

[olive sigil]

My Loki merch is gone for the winter

The squirrel who hangs around my backyard

[sage temple]

[glacial bear]

Daaaayumm

It’s okay tho we will get official Loki merch soon

[sage temple]

https://www.clubhousestatues.com/products/one-piece-black-studio-loki-resin-statue So dumb bruh

[glacial bear]

Ooo

That’s actually pretty cool

[rain cedar]

He's standing on business

[sage temple]

It's like the size of a minifridge

I needed one so bad

[olive sigil]

I just got a going merry figurine I have to build

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/vasco-shot-one-piece-anime-one-piece-one-piece-rescuing-koby-in-hachinosu-one-piece-hachinosu-gif-5538889657528316197

[sage temple]

[rain cedar]

Genuinely, is there even a demand for Vasco shot merch

Who's buying

[sage temple]

Wasted potential dawg

That effort could've gone into a massive Loki statue the size of Wemby

[rain cedar]

Who knows, once he appears in the anime, I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of loki merch

[glacial bear]

A life size Loki statue would be insane

[olive sigil]

There’s merch for everyone. Don’t judge

[glacial bear]

Cmon Japan, let’s do it!

[half echo]

yeah

[sage temple]

I'm not even gonna try to get the DF version of Loki's figure

[glacial bear]

Brazil has the Jesus statue. Japan could have the Loki statue

[olive sigil]

I have a life size Sanjuan statue but unfortunately it doesn’t fit in my city

[sage temple]

I js know it'll be gone in like a minute

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-egghead-egghead-arc-one-piece-1121-one-piece-ep-1121-gif-14334290951868903235

He’s a giant that ate like a grow grow fruit yea?

That’s OP ngl

[sage temple]

Loki would genuinely turn him into minced meat tho ngl

I wonder what giant island he comes from tho

I'm still on the agenda that the giant community in One Piece is larger than we think

[rain cedar]

Didn't Ida basically confirm that

[blazing mantle]

Where do you keep it

[olive sigil]

Sanjuan can just step on him

[olive sigil]

You’re standing on it

[blazing mantle]

Loki overpowers him

[blazing mantle]

That’s a scary thought

[rose rune]

and saul

[blazing mantle]

Sbs type of question

[sage temple]

Loki is genuinely way too fast for him ngl

[blazing mantle]

How tall is Sanjuan compared to zunesha

[sage temple]

I feel like Loki is the perfect size to counter Sanjuan

[blazing mantle]

Does he get dwarfed

[olive sigil]

There’s round earthers, there’s flat earthers and there’s people who believe our whole world is built on top of a Sanjuan wolf life size statue

[final trench]

Until i see otherwise sanjuan is getting diffed ngl

[olive sigil]

Not big enough

[sage temple]

Because of the existence of multiple giant countries:

Ida's country
Sanjuan's country
Saul's country
And probably others because of the Elbaph foreign giant law

There's probably a lot more imo

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-egghead-egghead-arc-garp-monkey-d-garp-gif-6811947587324008733

[sage temple]

He's perfectly big enough ngl

This is like Zoro vs Pica

[olive sigil]

He took a Garp hakied up fist and he looked fine. He was asleep so he didn’t even have a manoeuvre to counter the fist. There was no haki, no blocking, he took it to the face and he was fine

[sage temple]

This is the same durability for plenty of giants though

[olive sigil]

I still believe ida is related to Saul

[sage temple]

Dorry and Brogy take that same durability from Haki attacks

[olive sigil]

This is like Leo vs Loki

[sage temple]

Okay bro

😭

[rose rune]

to be fair, he landed in the ocean which sapped his strength

[sage temple]

There's no way this is a srs convo

[rose rune]

we don't know what it would be like if he landed on land

[rain cedar]

It's wild how we will never see the stuff that goes in the other blues

[olive sigil]

You think other giants can take a Garp strongest punch to the face while not defending themselves?

[grand flower]

Wym?

[sage temple]

Hope we get an SBS question of this

[olive sigil]

He’d just get back up and charge back

[rain cedar]

?

[sage temple]

This next volume is the one where Ida's home country island was mentioned

So

[rain cedar]

We probably wont explore them

[sage temple]

The chances are high ngl

[sage temple]

I doubt this ngl

And are we sure that was a crazy Haki output from Garp

All we know rn is that anime only scene

[olive sigil]

Yeah that was a really strong attack

[sage temple]

Not rly

[rose rune]

farp knocked him into the ocean in the manga too

[sage temple]

It wasn't strong in the way of damaging him

Yeah how do we know if it was a Haki-ed up punch or not

Idk where that comes from

It's not like ACoC was used or smth

[rose rune]

at this point I'm more surprised if anyone is not using haki when they clearly know how to

"oda didn't show it" is such a shit argument

[rain cedar]

Especially when the guy ONLY uses haki to fight lmao

[sage temple]

Yeah but if anything it was basic armament

[rose rune]

garp is a monster

[sage temple]

Especially since the punch seemed like the intent was to push him more than damage him

Okay

[rose rune]

you can meme all you like, but he's clearly a powerhouse

[sage temple]

So is Rocks does this mean Loki tanked an insanely strong attack from him

Does this mean Rocks used his top 3 strongest attack of his life against Loki

Because "Oda didn't clarify" is such a shit argument

This def could've happened

6 year old Loki at that

Might've been younger

[rose rune]

Rocks is not heartless

[sage temple]

Rocks really just didn't gaf about Loki

At that time he wouldn't have cared

[rain cedar]

Not really, he is a giant brat and rocks probably knew he could take it

[rose rune]

would kinda fuck up his plan if he murdered a child

[sage temple]

So using the same logic, the fact that Loki took an attack like that and survives puts baby Loki's durability above Garp's

[rose rune]

it'd be stupid of him

you know this socrates

[sage temple]

He doesn't have to murder Loki for it to be strong

Loki tanking it doesn't mean it's weak

Rocks could've definitely have assessed that baby Loki was durable enough to take one of his strongest attacks of his entire life

[rose rune]

how the fuck did you twist the convo into this btw

[prisma yacht]

😆😆😆😆

[sage temple]

Because you're trying to assume Garp used a crazy Haki punch against Sanjuan just because he's a monster or whatever

Crazy turn of a convo ngl

[rose rune]

there's a clear difference between actual combat and using a child as bait to lure someone there

[sage temple]

Yes yet this child would've been seen by Rocks as someone who can handle such an attack

Therefore he uses his strongest attack of his life

Against Loki, the giant charging at him

See how illogical that is? So you can't act like Garp used some crazy shit-ton of ACoC against Sanjuan when nothing so far indicates that lol

[tropic nova]

@sage temple has been muted!

Reason: be serious
Duration: 10 seconds

[digital spear]

Aura

[steel stirrup]

😭

[sage temple]

Do you have ANY idea who you're dealing with

[rose rune]

yeah

[sage temple]

Fatsumo will hear of this

[prisma yacht]

😭😭

[steel stirrup]

This abuse of power

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-gif-27532263

[digital spear]

Bro is Shanks

[pine ridge]

mod abuse

[prisma yacht]

Aboose

[distant vine]

Justified mute omg

[rose rune]

thighbreaker villain arc

[digital spear]

Me personally as a humble user I think this was justified

[high wolf]

ABUSE

[sage temple]

This is COMPLETELY sensible for me to say

Thigh will see me in court

[rose rune]

anyways, gunko used her weakest attacks against loki

[digital spear]

What is the discussion even about

[rose rune]

whether or not garp used haki when he punched sanjuan

[sage temple]

Loki was weakened by seastone this is irrelevant

[rain cedar]

Baby loki = garp level durability

[distant vine]

Oh, I would say no

[prisma yacht]

I saw Socrates saying baby loki has more durability than garp

[sage temple]

Loki has more durability than 1/2 Domi Reversi Rocks I guess

[steel stirrup]

Fighting for his life

[distant vine]

Doesnt seem like Garp used Haki there at all

[sage temple]

EXACTLY

[rose rune]

it was the weakest attack she had used in all of her life

[sage temple]

Loki was trying to make himself bloody to fool Luffy

And it worked

[red lagoon]

[digital spear]

Yeah what Garp used to punch Sanjuan with was not nearly as strong as what he used on Rocks back then

[spice cairn]

I cant find the panel where he punches him but Toei definitely didnt have him use Haki

[rain cedar]

Socrates

[digital spear]

It was even offscreened in the manga lol

What the f

[spice cairn]

A non Haki Punch was able to punch San Juan away btw

[rose rune]

his fist is not touching

in that screenshot

[sage temple]

Worst argument oat 😭

[steel stirrup]

LMAOO

[prisma yacht]

Acoc

Confirmed

[spice cairn]

PoL

[steel stirrup]

The fist not touching is crazy

[spice cairn]

Which is stronger on average than coc btw

[steel stirrup]

😭

[rose rune]

it's anime tho, so it's not canon

[digital spear]

I mean if the fist isnt touching that would indicate acoc

[sage temple]

Gunko is basically 1/4 Imu

Gunko is a tough cookie

[digital spear]

or Ryuo whatever

[steel stirrup]

💀

[spice cairn]

I mean its the event of the actual fight so I think its fair to assume this happened.

[prisma yacht]

it's over for baby loki

[steel stirrup]

¼ of Imu😭😭

[spice cairn]

Unlike Van Augur killing cracker soldiers

Which didnt happen

[high wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-stream-ishowspeed-stream-speed-nod-gif-1082323842437565509

[rain cedar]

Bros getting the ratios from Oda himself

[sage temple]

Luffy used his strongest attack of his life against 1 HP Loki here

This attack is stronger than Gear 5 and Bajrang Gun combined

[steel stirrup]

😭

[final trench]

Of his life?

Mods you’re gonna love this one

Ill double it

[steel stirrup]

Socrates fight fire with a flamethrower

[prisma yacht]

20sec

[digital spear]

Fragile ass arm balloon

[spice cairn]

If I ragebait Luffy does that mean im mentally nerfing him

[sage temple]

100% of Luffy's strength is equal to 1% of Loki's durability

[high wolf]

BASE LUFFY

[rain cedar]

It only works on people who are intelligent

[prisma idol]

We will not be acting like base luffy is weak

[sage temple]

ONE THOUSAND LUFFIES ARE EQUAL TO 1 LOKI

[rose rune]

damn, this is literally the only panel of the garp punch in the manga

[sage temple]

[prisma idol]

We will not be stupid in this server

[digital spear]

Yeah lol

[high wolf]

Never said that.

It's just that bro didn't even use GEAR 3

[spice cairn]

Yeah.

[steel stirrup]

Wicked he just sent bro away

[spice cairn]

Literally that's all you get

[sage temple]

Luffy's fist is not touching in this manga panel

[digital spear]

Well that is Gear 3

[spice cairn]

But I assume it was minimal effort from Garp's pov

[prisma idol]

Sanjuan got offscreened

[steel stirrup]

Nah fr tho that's crazy

[spice cairn]

Since Garp has punched ships for a living for like 40+ years atp

Not too crazy

[high wolf]

Oops
My bad

[sage temple]

Did he say Gear 3 or are you ASSUMING

[rose rune]

I think it's safe to assume Garp used Loki's strongest attack to blow sanjuan away

[sage temple]

[prisma yacht]

So if you think about this
Garp's fist is not touching sanjuan in the manga as well

Confirmed acoc punch

[steel stirrup]

Garp really sent bro so casually Oda didn't even bother

[digital spear]

Arm balloon is a Gear 3 only attack...

[spice cairn]

Kuzan is what allowed all the BBPs from not being completely ran over btw

[sage temple]

TO QUOTE THIGHBREAKER: "I'm more surprised if anyone is not using haki when they clearly know how to"

[rain cedar]

You don't see the punch

You just see the aftermath

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/it-is-known-game-of-thrones-it's-understood-everyone-knows-we-know-gif-9361879955269503159

No Burgess either

[spice cairn]

Kuzan saying "Oh I mean it was all of us" was insane cope

[digital spear]

It is known

[steel stirrup]

No Devon

[spice cairn]

He absolutely saved them

[sage temple]

You see the ... ? This implies there was something before this being said. WHAT IF LUFFY SAID "DAWN"

IMMEDIATELY MAKES IT G5

[steel stirrup]

No Van Auger either

[ornate tartan]

old garp one tapping all of those mfs except kuzan😂

[steel stirrup]

Kuzan put Hachinosu on his back icl

[ornate tartan]

he still tough

[rose rune]

yeah. I still think this

[spice cairn]

On the bright side Shiryu brushed it off somewhat

So like

[distant vine]

The state BB would have found those guys in if Kuzan wasnt there 😭

[prisma idol]

If Loki fell down to a G3 attack and G3 was conceptualized with G2 in the same arc does that mean Hajrudin == Loki since Dressrosa hajrudin got knocked out by luffy's g2 punch

[spice cairn]

Not a complete ran over

[prisma yacht]

that's right you don't see garp's fist touching sanjuan

[spice cairn]

But yeah Kuzan was the reason why Garp didnt escape

[digital spear]

Then he would be white

[spice cairn]

They all would've completely just failed miserably

[distant vine]

He got his ass beat, no Ope Ope fruit, Moria gone, and them half his crew gets wiped

[steel stirrup]

Without his fruit he wouldn't have been much of a factor

[sage temple]

Loki fell down to a G3 attack with potential Ryuo

Do we see Luffy touch Loki?

[prisma idol]

Too late Socrates. NOW LOKI IS HAJRUDIN LEVEL

[sage temple]

Don't disgust me

[steel stirrup]

Chill

[prisma yacht]

Loki upscale

[sage temple]

This is Loki at 1HP

CONTEXT PEOPLE

[rain cedar]

The funniest thing was how shiryus fodder ass managed to sneak garp and STILL get folded

[prisma idol]

Trueee

[distant vine]

Why would Luffy used Ryou if he's trying to give Loki a light tap

[sage temple]

YOU FOOLS DON'T READ THE MANGA LIKE I DO

[spice cairn]

Imagine if Garp and Koby escaped

[steel stirrup]

Where tf did Hajrudin come from wtf

[spice cairn]

Dude

He would've probably killed them off lmao.

[sage temple]

Did he say that

[fossil nimbus]

didn't they say that loki was basically at 1HP at that moment

[prisma idol]

Read my message from before

[sage temple]

They definitely did say that

[rose rune]

"rocks used his strongest attack ever against 6 year old loki"

[steel stirrup]

That equation

[distant vine]

No but if we sit in our thinking chair and think, he's clearly holding back

[digital spear]

Wait cook

[steel stirrup]

Nigga what?

[sage temple]

"Garp used his strongest attack ever against defenseless Sanjuan"

[rose rune]

socrates earlier

[spice cairn]

Rocks likes killing children so he can flex about it on social media

[sage temple]

This was you earlier

[prisma idol]

I can make it better, 1 hp loki fell before g3 punch touched him. So loki fell to the mere brush of the air displaced by g3 punch. Therefore max HP loki probably can at most take a g3 punch.

[rain cedar]

He didn't even say that, he just said he used acoc

Dawg be for real

[spice cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-d-garp-garp-fist-punched-san-juan-wolf-garp-vs-sanjuan-wolf-garp-one-piece-gif-1999928281140671282

[rose rune]

no, you misread it. I said he used Loki's strongest attack against sanjuan

[distant vine]

There's a lot of finger pointing...how about we reset and everyone says what they mean

[spice cairn]

No Haki btw

[high wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/robert-downey-jr-huh-what-iron-man-surprised-gif-17639389346286804402

[digital spear]

This is the strongest attack Garp ever used

[distant vine]

Kinda amazing they got Sanjuan out in time?

[steel stirrup]

Nika fuck

[sage temple]

not a DROP of lightning here at all

[steel stirrup]

How tf

[sage temple]

Nobody is even knocked out dawg

[spice cairn]

You know how theres that one dex entry where Raichu can kill a bazillion Indian elephants?

This is what Garp used

[sage temple]

Oh mb

https://tenor.com/view/drake-computer-notebook-explaning-gif-21152267

[distant vine]

Oda please have Luffy fight Sanjuan Wolf for 2 chapters so I can say its a Garp upscale

[fossil nimbus]

are socrates and thigh just ragebaiting each other

[distant vine]

🙏

[steel stirrup]

Absolutely

[digital spear]

Wait what India and elephants exist in the Pokemon world

[distant vine]

Have him use Gear 4 too

[spice cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-d-garp-vs-shiryu-one-piece-monkey-d-garp-shiryu-shiryu-of-the-blackbeard-pirates-gif-2600093985007009299

Non Haki maneuver btw

[high wolf]

Gear 5*

[digital spear]

He would use Gear 4, maybe even 5

[rain cedar]

Genuinely, how did BB pirates job so fast

[spice cairn]

This is kind of embarrassing ngl

[steel stirrup]

Thats just pure upper body

[prisma idol]

Using anime as canon... Please provide the panels

[digital spear]

What is a haki manuever

[sage temple]

If you can assume Garp used Haki at ALL against Sanjuan then I can assume Rocks used the strongest attack of his life against Loki

[steel stirrup]

I mean thats still Garp

[prisma idol]

It should be around ch 1080

[spice cairn]

Dont you know the Haki Manuever

[distant vine]

Something something two wrongs dont make a right

[ornate tartan]

he used gear 5 against a snake😂😂

[steel stirrup]

Ight gg

[spice cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/luffy-katakuri-whole-cake-island-luffy-vs-katakuri-armament-haki-gif-11367460056872730580

[distant vine]

You cant fall lower just because someone said something incorrect. Its immature.

[steel stirrup]

💀its over

[digital spear]

What if we dont tho

[sage temple]

I can definitely fall lower because someone who said something incorrect believes they are correct

[prisma idol]

Ch 1087

[sage temple]

Then Loki > Sanjuan is definite

[digital spear]

🤯

[spice cairn]

Gen 1 dex entries are very crazy

[steel stirrup]

Lowkey ate it

[spice cairn]

Gastly had the same dex entry where it can suffocate an Indian elephant

[rose rune]

I'm leaning more towards Harjudin = Loki after that compelling argument from Bluko

[sage temple]

Garp reminds me of Harald

[spice cairn]

Why was there so much elephant killing back then?

[distant vine]

Luffy didnt consider the powerscaling community when he transformed into Gear 5 to fight those animals

[prisma idol]

I dont see it

[steel stirrup]

What tf is with all these Indian elephants?

[digital spear]

[hearty shore]

yeah donphans

[steel stirrup]

Fuck it

[spice cairn]

If Luffy had to use Haki to kill a snake, does that make that Snake a bigger threat than San Juan?

[prisma idol]

Black lightning is not a sign of ACoC usage

[sage temple]

I'm leaning more towards Loki > Shanks after the compelling revelations brought up by myself

[digital spear]

They said Elephant not Donphan tho

[sage temple]

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/best-man-holiday-black-guy-crying-black-guy-funeral-black-guy-crying-at-funeral-funeral-crying-gif-4006062888161857521

[spice cairn]

They specified irl Elephants in the dex entry

[distant vine]

Would you guys prefer if Gear 5 kept the outfit or it standardizing into the vest and shorts?

[rose rune]

it's true. Shanks borrows haki from Ben Beckmann

[prisma idol]

That is the problem with g5 as the sign of ACOC is the lack of contact. However G5 punches and stretches the target therefore we never have a good look at G5 using it

[spice cairn]

Elephants are typically used as a grand scale in some media.

[sage temple]

🤝

[prisma idol]

And then luffy never used ACoC against anyone in Egghead

[hearty shore]

wait wait i don't know much about pokemon lore, do normal animals exist along pokemons?

[steel stirrup]

Luffy said "fuck Ryou"

[ornate tartan]

nope he didn’t this is right

[distant vine]

Oh yeah people assume Luffy is constantly using ACOC in G5 right?

[spice cairn]

To not get OSy, its very vague.

[fossil nimbus]

didn't kaido say luffy always coats himself with coc in g5

[spice cairn]

The anime tends to show random animals on casual

And the dex entries also reference irl animals sometimes

But that dex has never really been used since so it was for its time

[celest mauve]

no, he was making an observation that luffy was using ACoC at the time

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/world-cup-russia-world-cup2018-fan-happy-smiling-gif-12002896

[digital spear]

Officially they dont but sometimes theyre mentioned in dex entries or shown in the anime which is always a funny esster egg

[celest mauve]

if luffy was always using ACoC in G5, it means lucci was able to match a G5+ACoC punch and that makes no sense

[prisma idol]

Ch 1045

[distant vine]

ACOC may be one of the worst shonen abilities Ive ever read? LOL

[prisma idol]

Wrong page

[spice cairn]

They retconned it wirh the new gen

[ornate tartan]

powercliffed

[digital spear]

"My homeland" WHO are you

[pulsar timber]

Rizz

[distant vine]

Like I dont wanna be mean but damn the value ACOC is bringing to the story doesnt really add up to me

[steel stirrup]

Only cope i can conjure is they didn't use haki to coat their body defensively like Kaido and weren't too hot to touch so Luffy didnt feel the need to use Ryou

[rain cedar]

I thought everyone with common sense agreed on this

[distant vine]

We're always going "Uhhhh is it used here?" instead of marveling at some cool usage of it

[digital spear]

Oda is a hack

[distant vine]

A shame cause I liked the internal destruction mechanics in Act 2

[hearty shore]

acoc should have been introduced with regular coc

[steel stirrup]

This makes me believe that Oda says "fuck Ryou" when he thinks its funny

[tropic nova]

Will Usopp wield Ragnir?

1️⃣ Yes

2️⃣ No

bluko · Jan 11, 2026, 6:17 PM

[prisma yacht]

Yes

[ornate tartan]

half of the time in arguments when it comes to analyzing fights is wasted on identifying whether something is acoc or armament😂😂

[prisma yacht]

Always bet on ragnir for usopp

[spice cairn]

Make way

[rain cedar]

Acoc immediately superseded adv armament and that's the worst part

[digital spear]

Ryuo was introduced and powercliffed in the same arc

[golden valley]

Well you must’ve read a lot of shonen series with ass abilities cuz to me, ACoC is in my top 5 worse powers ever

[distant vine]

I dont think that makes things better

Yeah ACOC lowkey shouldnt exist

[blazing depot]

I’m an Usopp supporter but even I know Ragnir is cope. Yall are setting yourself for disappointment

[distant vine]

Should just be ACOA

[steel stirrup]

I expect nothing

[prisma idol]

Ryou is just Armament's application

[distant vine]

Well Im also saying its one of the worst

[sage temple]

Loki using it at 16 and hes not even a human 😭 😭

[golden valley]

Thr concept of ACoC is fine, its execution is just horrid

[sage temple]

Loki broke the stereotype

[digital spear]

^Unaware that Usopp will feed Ragnir nuts

[prisma yacht]

So glue

[rain cedar]

Not really, it's Genuinely uncreative in the concept as well

[steel stirrup]

What stereotype

[spice cairn]

Haki was a mistake ztp

[hearty shore]

usopp is more likely to use haki knots as ammunition than use ragnir

[prisma idol]

One Piece Mid

[sage temple]

Non humans can use CoC

[digital spear]

Im so proud

[prisma idol]

I miss Luffy

[distant vine]

I do like the idea of giving COC an application in battle that doesnt just hurt fodder

[cold steppe]

Hmmm I wonder if garp was holding back against the strawhats in water 7 ?

[golden valley]

Oda doesn’t make ACoC unidentifiable, its not “unique” visually and the fact the fandom debates whether ACoC is a bad sign.

[distant vine]

But this isnt it

[celest mauve]

luffy vs kaido specifically focused on the usage of ACoC from chapter 1010 onwards and there was tons of black lightning being exchanged in their fight, roger and garp vs xebec also focused on ACoC being the answer and there was (surprise surprise) a ton of black lightning to be observed there too

therefore given how there was basically no sign of black lightning from luffy aside from white star gun I don't think he was using ACoC for the most part in egghead and oda kinda sucks at using this power

[golden valley]

JJK with binding vows > ACoC

[digital spear]

He used his strongest attack on them

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/kaido-kaido-one-piece-luffy-vs-kaido-luffy-luffy-one-piece-gif-24525911

[hearty shore]

bro he nuked hachniosu with a punch

[distant vine]

Yeah the poor indication is a big issue

[rose rune]

it's all logia's fault... and now regen

[golden valley]

Infusing your spirit is a common shonen thing its fine

[distant vine]

Observation Haki is the innocent one in all this tbh

[golden valley]

It doesn’t need to be unoriginal or “creative”

[ornate tartan]

Haki isn’t a mistake the only mistake was how it’s utilized and how it’s depicted for us readers

[golden valley]

Haki stopped being that anyway

[distant vine]

I pretty much always like its uses

[sage temple]

😭

[prisma idol]

Future sight...

[steel stirrup]

Yea Ancient Giants aren't human but other than the horns and size they appear mostly humanoid at least as far as Harald and Loki are concerned. Oars seemed more Orc-ish

[rain cedar]

I don't think it is at all lmao. That's exactly what adv armament was doing as well

[golden valley]

Observation Haki and Armament are the coolest

[celest mauve]

this sequence is so good but why is dragon kaido observable behind luffy when he's in hybrid form lol

[prisma idol]

Shanks having the ability to kill obs somehow

[rain cedar]

It's a dumb stat boost

[golden valley]

It is easily a common trope

[steel stirrup]

Haki haki no mi

[distant vine]

Yeah Future Sight's awesome whats the problem

[rose rune]

"powerscalers were a mistake" is how I read this sentence

[high wolf]

Future sight is great

[sage temple]

I mean sure they look like humans but they're really just giants if anything

[rain cedar]

Common trope does not mean it's not ass

[prisma idol]

Its as inconsistent in use as ACoC 😭

[golden valley]

I said the concept is fine

[digital spear]

Acoc was built for being revealed only in Elbaf but Luffy already needed it against Kaido 😔

[golden valley]

Whats wrong with the concept?

[sage temple]

The fact that there's a law that makes Elbaph royalty have heirs that are pureblood giants

[rain cedar]

The concept is that it's already taking away from adv armament

[distant vine]

I'll defend it in that it's usage is much clearer than ACOC

[celest mauve]

luffy is shown using it once in the 1v1 against kaido and that's hilarious

[distant vine]

I dont mind it not being spammed

[steel stirrup]

Yea ijs Giants are classified as non human even tho they look just like humans

I dont get that

[distant vine]

I guess I just kinda see it as a random passive ability

[hearty shore]

oda literally forgot about future vision

[sage temple]

What if humans are a race that originate from giants

[distant vine]

That probably contradicts how it was setup but viewing it that way works for me

[steel stirrup]

Now we're talking

[celest mauve]

he didn't, he just knows it's OP and doesn't have luffy use it much because of that

[distant vine]

To me it looked like he used it early in the fight to avoid a Thunder Bagua

[golden valley]

The concept is infusing your attacks with Conquerors/Manifested spirit. That is fine, the execution is just bad

[celest mauve]

kid's infamous humiliation started because of future sight

[steel stirrup]

If all Giants looked like Oars i wouldn't even wonder about it

[golden valley]

Ur saying it takes away from what armament, but that’s execution issues

Not the concept being bad

[rain cedar]

Brother, the concept is literally being reused

[fossil nimbus]

Oda just draws stuff atp

[golden valley]

The concept isn’t bad…

[celest mauve]

yeah

[rose rune]

watchmojo top 13

[distant vine]

ACOC needs clearer distinction about when its used. I think thats all?

[steel stirrup]

Yea i agree somewhat. Im kind of on the fence with haki. Its not a bad concept because without it Logias would be uncontainable but it does get wacky

[distant vine]

Not this. It was really early, where he got knicked by it instead of being hit

[rain cedar]

It's not bad but you can't spam it twice. It's no longer about "execution". Adv armament was supposed to help you flow your haki, adv armament kinda just did the same thing except you're coating it which is just....regular armament again?

[digital spear]

Im glad they cut open the head of Albert Einstein so we get a look at his brain and understand that he is very smart which we wouldnt have known otherwise

[distant vine]

I think an upgrade to ACOA existing is fine

[golden valley]

Even after all this time, why Conquerors Haki does what it does and what makes it distinctive in how it impacts abilities is what makes it annoying

[sage temple]

Oars is an older gen giant, he's more orc like with fangs and inhuman coloring with horns.
Road says the Ancient Giant bloodline has faded out as Elbaph continued in time, and, in turn, they all get smaller look a lot more human
Humans are the product of an Ancient Giant community that diverged from the Ancient Giant type blood type sooner than Elbaph has

[distant vine]

ACOA just got replaced too soon Id say

[prisma yacht]

future king of all giants swearing his loyalty to god usopp

[rain cedar]

I disagree pretty hard

It makes acoa redundant

[rose rune]

that's just his hat with a brain print

[high wolf]

This?

[celest mauve]

it's the same panelling of action lines around luffy's face, that earlier scene has luffy explicitly saying he was reading the future and it wasn't a 1v1 yet

[golden valley]

It is about execution because the concept isn’t really being executed all that well and it just a revamp of a previously established power.

[digital spear]

They even managed to print over his hair

[distant vine]

ACOC probably needed a stronger effect than just "ACOA but better"

[sage temple]

True bc what if he was a megacomputer with a CPU from the european government

[celest mauve]

but later in the 1v1, luffy used future sight again and also used G2 to boost his speed to accomplish a full dodge

[golden valley]

The concept of infusing your manifested spirit is fine. What Oda made ACoC do in execution is what is terrible

[distant vine]

Yes

[rain cedar]

See, that's the core issue. It's reusing the concept. It's unoriginal, it's boring

[golden valley]

Ok well atp, I don’t think it matters. A series doesn’t need a complex power system

Haki works because its cut and dry

[rain cedar]

How exactly is acoc any different from its application than armament

It isn't

[steel stirrup]

I think its about the coating right?

[distant vine]

Maybe like...let ACOC do continous damage in the attacked person without more hits?

Just something to set it apart

[steel stirrup]

I always understood AdvConq as like a damage multiplier

[digital spear]

Hansel and Gretel would be way better if they had haki

[rain cedar]

The best thing Oda could come up with is that it doesn't touch 😭

[distant vine]

I get Xplorer's complaint

[golden valley]

This is the poor execution I’m talking about, ACoC still isn’t defined in “why it works”

[fossil nimbus]

acoc is just stronger armament

[rain cedar]

We just differ in our definitions, that's all

[distant vine]

I think the best thing to do for ACOC other than unique signifiers is unique effects

[steel stirrup]

I was under the impression that that was AdvArm

Oh wait

[distant vine]

Its both

[rain cedar]

yeah

[steel stirrup]

Yea

[rain cedar]

Mhm and imo, it just ended up taking away from adv armament in the end

[distant vine]

We shouldnt have to debate between someone using ACOC or ACOA

[steel stirrup]

AdvArm doesnt touch either but I've assumed both to basically be emission

[rain cedar]

I think Oda could've played a lot more with the internal damage thing

But unfortunately

Acoc immediately became the new toy

[golden valley]

ACoC visual indicators suck and we don’t even know why it just affects powers the same way regular haki does. Like Law replicated what conquerors haki users do when overpowering abilities without even being a Conquerors user.

All Oda has to do is define what makes CoC so different

[distant vine]

I kind of understand Oda cause it looked like his roadmap was

ACOA Luffy - Land some hits on Kaido and not get one shot
ACOC Luffy - Fight on Kaido's level
G5 + ACOC Luffy - Overwhelm Kaido

But ACOA was kinda done dirty

It doesnt help that its not brought up anymore

Anyone doing those moves has COC

He's skipping it

[rain cedar]

Yeah, idt AcoA will be relevant anymore

[distant vine]

Let some characters have ACOA be their defined peak of Haki

[steel stirrup]

Internal damage should've been AdvConq and just emission or no touch could've been just AvdArm

But the Oden flashback made it seem like it was because their Conq haki was so massive it was hitting each other before the weapons themselves could make contact.

[distant vine]

That would help

[rain cedar]

It lasted 1 whole arc ✌🏻😭

[distant vine]

Koby may have it

[high wolf]

I actually like ACoA more than ACoC.

[distant vine]

Theyre kinda the same to me

[sage temple]

I wonder who the most masterful in ACoC is right now

[rain cedar]

Concept wise, it's better because acoa is more about letting your haki flow into the opponent

[distant vine]

But ACOC is doing more damage to the series since its the primary one

[high wolf]

Who do you think?

[steel stirrup]

Maybe the nigga who used it to kill an immortal who also had AdvConq

[prisma idol]

Shanks

[sage temple]

Imu
Probably Shanks since he used it at 15
Then Loki

[steel stirrup]

I think that mf does

[golden valley]

Who else bruh

[high wolf]

True

[steel stirrup]

Yea Shanks too

[ornate tartan]

Koby has acoc what do yall think?

[golden valley]

Shanks is the only one with the confirmed ability to use conquerors to block future sight

[steel stirrup]

That'd be lit

[prisma idol]

He will at some point

[golden valley]

Hes the most advanced person glaze

[sage temple]

Yeah Shanks is def more mastered at Haki usage

[prisma idol]

Whether he has it rn idk

[high wolf]

I think he WILL UNLOCK it

[distant vine]

It should be ACOA

[steel stirrup]

That Harald shit is still crazy to me tho

[ornate tartan]

I mean Koby kinda needs it to do anything significant

[distant vine]

See this pisses me off too. Instead of giving everyone COC just give them ACOA

[ornate tartan]

he has no fruit powers or weapons

[sage temple]

Shanks over Imu

[rain cedar]

Acoc only gets more relevant usage wise with the holy knights

[steel stirrup]

Facts

[rain cedar]

Odas favourite plot device I'd say

[prisma idol]

I will never doubt oda and his ability to glaze a single character after the 10 chaoter run Rocks had. And Shanks is Oda's golden child

[sage temple]

Yeah me too people try to act like it isn't a feat since Harald let himself get hit but he still can't turn off regeneration or his natural durability as an Ancient Giant

[prisma idol]

Too late

[ornate tartan]

i think the flashback is over

[prisma idol]

ACOC FOR EVERYONE

[high wolf]

True

[sage temple]

Well Shanks didn't kill Harald and was basically sidelined for that fight when Harald was killed

[prisma idol]

As we need them for the HK and Gorosei fights

[golden valley]

Heres how I think the HK counters should’ve been

Armament Haki = Slowing down their regeneration

Conquerors Haki = Being able to kill them permanently.

Armament Haki being able to effect the regeneration makes more characters relevant.

[steel stirrup]

Good shit