also-manga

[sage temple]

That still makes the object he's guarding legendary, not himself

[vital heart]

Loha!

[trim lily]

you actually do have a point as loki wasn’t aware of ragnir and people only pointed that the fruit was missing

but it pains me to agree with socrates

[fallen meteor]

you dropped this:
A

[thick mango]

This is stupid semantics. If it doesn't meet your bar for legendary, use whatever adjective you prefer that means exceptional and distinguished from mundane weapons.

[sage temple]

Yeah so you're wrong and I'm right

[tranquil blade]

Bro has a new "hey guys"

[sage temple]

Okay well it wouldn't be legendary the same way Ragnir is

[thick mango]

Say special then again it doesn't really matter

[sage temple]

Yeah special, because the sword itself being legendary is more of an assumption if anything

[thick mango]

Ok so same point stands. Special eyes special hammer special fruit.
Special sword is redundant. Better on someone who has fewer special things that can appreciate lesser diminishing returns

[vital heart]

Do you prefer this one?

Aloha, Avery!

[trail mountain]

Is there one piece spoiler channel?

[vital heart]

Yeah

Here

[vital heart]

Spoilers aren't out yet for 1171, so #spoilers is locked. Once the 1171 spoilers are out, you can talk in it. But everyone in here is caught up to 1170

[fallen meteor]

#spoiler-news and #spoilers but the spoilers are not out so they are closed

[trail mountain]

Okay good to hear

[vital heart]

@sage temple Pre emptive

Self

Disclosure

https://tenor.com/view/disclosure-dj-band-electronic-rave-gif-15833418

[sage temple]

Since Ragnir is sentient it doesn't always have to be used with Loki so It isn't really that crazy if Ragnir hangs with Loki but fights by itself while Loki uses the sword in Elbaph as a weapon

Also Kidd is dead so that whole thing being based on an assumption like that makes it unlikely by itself ngl

[vital heart]

Fuck you

Kid is not dead

Kid is going to come back

[vital heart]

He's gonna be 7

[sage temple]

If he does come back yeah I agree around that

Still confused on why Smoker is on this list

[vital heart]

Smoker will be admiral

Bruh

Fleet admiral or 2nd admiral

Up w koby

[sage temple]

Ohhh that makes sense

[thick mango]

Fujitora fleet admiral

[formal wagon]

good list

[final trench]

You will know pain…

[fresh silo]

this seems very likely to be true by the EOS if only considering alive characters

[sage temple]

I really do like that list tho good job Meek

[fresh silo]

i don't see ussop tho, did ya think he will probably be dead or not strong enough to be in the list

[sage temple]

Not strong enough to be in the list

If Augur isn't top 20 right now then Ussop will never be top 20

[vital heart]

He will likely die

[formal wagon]

whos killing fujitora

[vital heart]

yeah i think a lot of ppl are gonna die

[thick mango]

Doubt it. I think barely any will die among the virtuous coalition

[fresh silo]

probably, realistically talking he would die by the end, i really think so

[thick mango]

Oda just doesn't seem to like killing characters

[sage temple]

I feel like the best way for Ussop to achieve his dream is to die

[fresh silo]

we'll see for sure

[sage temple]

I can also see Jinbe dying ngl

[crimson yacht]

zoro will be 2

[sage temple]

So Oda doesn't have to find a way to nerf Jinbe every arc he might just kill him off

[fresh silo]

i think the same, a lot of ppl are like noo he will get an immense powerup by the end but i just think he's gonna die

[fresh silo]

i don't think so, loki as of now seems to be stronger than luffy so zoro surpassing him seems very unlikely

[sage temple]

Yeah him getting a crazy powerup Haki wise would honestly just lower the exclusivity of whatever it is so much

[crimson yacht]

stronger than current luffy has no relevance to eos

[fresh silo]

yeaahh, as of now I don't think so he is going to get a haki powerup, rather his next powerup seems likely to be feeding his sword a df

[sage temple]

Why would Zoro be 2

Especially if Loki doesn't wield swords

[crimson yacht]

strongest swordsman of all time

[sage temple]

Is Loki a swordsman

[crimson yacht]

Loki isnt stronger than multiple swordsmen

rocks, mihawk, roger

[sage temple]

He arguably is

[fresh silo]

it sure does, if we r talking abt powerscaling, i mean to say that loki is very far away from zoro as of now, zoro reaching that level of haki is just destroying the exclusivity of that haki level or whateber

[crimson yacht]

theres no argument

[crimson yacht]

zoro is far away from many top tiers

but hes gonna be above like

almost all of them

by eos

so it doesnt rlly matter

[spice cairn]

Bonney is far away from many top tiers, but shes gonna be above them by eos

[sage temple]

Yeah he is off of the fact that he could beat Ragnir and Harald couldn't

[crimson yacht]

Lowkey bonney could

[sage temple]

[fresh silo]

as we r seeing loki now, he seems to be on level with shanks, and i arguably can say that shanks and mihawk are on level with each other, if not then more likely not far by a lot

[crimson yacht]

Nothing implies Harald has ever tried to fight ragnir in the past

[crimson yacht]

Mihawk is above shanks

[sage temple]

You don't have to attempt to do something before you know you aren't capable enough to

And Harald says he wasn't capable enough until he got the Imu stimulus

[fresh silo]

how can u say that, when we haven't even seen mihawk or shanks fight seriously

[crimson yacht]

Harald bases it off the fact previous elbaph kings couldnt

which has no merit because we dont know how strong they are

compared to harald

harald could be a million times stronger than him

his basis is off randoms

[crimson yacht]

Strongest swordsman currently

so he has to be

[unique lagoon]

we aint even sure the imu power will work on ragnir
we just know its very a very powerful buff

[sage temple]

This is such a baseless assumption

[fresh silo]

he is referred to as a pure swordsmen, i argue that shanks is a 'pure' swordsmen

[unique lagoon]

i am coping its more than just physical strength convincing ragnir

[sage temple]

Why would he base the ability of HIM being able to beat Ragnir off of other kings?

[unique lagoon]

its too oga booga for me

[sage temple]

That makes no sense

[crimson yacht]

Lol

[sage temple]

Oh yeah everyone else couldn't do it so based off of that alone, I can't do it either

[crimson yacht]

Nothing implies harald has ever tried to take on Ragnir

hes just confident that

with the imu buff

he DEFINITELY

can

but nothing says

he couldnt prior

hes never attempted it

[sage temple]

He's confident that before the Imu buff he couldn't

[crimson yacht]

Where does it imply that

or even say that

[sage temple]

And the word "can" doesn't need a single message dawg

[crimson yacht]

?

Nothing implies or even states that Harald attempted it or thought he couldn't

Now that hes gotten a significant power up, he thinks he definitely can

[fresh silo]

we don't know much about any of these now, maybe shanks doesn't purely rely on fighting with his sword while mihawk does, we don't even know about mihawk's haki levels, as of now mihawk doesn't have coc, and it really seems so as of his character

[crimson yacht]

If someone's pr in the gym is 250 deadlift and i ask them to do 255, they might not know whether or not they would be able to

But if i ask them to do a 60 deadlift, they are definitively capable of doing so

Harald pre imu buff has no basis on being able to take on ragnir

but now that hes gotten a significant power up hes CONFIDENT he can

[crimson yacht]

"Not a single one of THEM" if he was talking about himself he would just say himself

The fact Harald is actually talking about people other than himself is almost direct confirmation he has never tried

[sage temple]

And the emphasis on "now" implies he couldn't do it before

[fresh silo]

he don't know if his previous level was 250 and ragnir required 300 and his buff gave him 301, we don't know anything about this (if put in ur words)

[sage temple]

This kinda debunks the idea that he didn't attempt it

[crimson yacht]

Thats not the implication it makes

[sage temple]

Makes it a lot less likely that he didn't attempt

[crimson yacht]

especially since you're

removing context

to the statement

[sage temple]

I'm not removing the context, the fact that he mentions other kings doesn't change the fact that he said people choosing not to eat the fruit is not what stopped the fruit from being eaten

[crimson yacht]

"Not a single one of them was chosen by ragnir"

"But with the strength I NOW POSSESS" He's comparing his strength to the previous attempts made by other people. the "Now" isn't referring to the fact that he previously couldn't, its referring to the fact that OTHERS couldn't. The context is right there in his previous sentences.

[sage temple]

Okay, now look at the image I last posted

[crimson yacht]

You're right, he doesn't and we don't know. However, to make the claim that Harald could never beat Ragnir but Loki could is straight headcanon.

Nothing actually states Harald has ever attempted

[crimson yacht]

I did

[next estuary]

I dont have a dog in this fight

[crimson yacht]

You're removing what he says after

Him saying "no one"

[next estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/jonsnow-gif-9657129

[crimson yacht]

then saying THEM afterwards

means hes talking about others

[next estuary]

This is just Socrates every time theyre in this channel

[crimson yacht]

"No one" and then he says "them" meaning the "no one" isn't mentioning himself because theres no confirmation he's ever attempted

[sage temple]

Literally bro

[crimson yacht]

Hes just confident he can now that he got IMMORTALITY and a power up

[sage temple]

Why does nobody agree with me im crine

[fresh silo]

we don't know how much power the previous kings possessed, i mean harald is likely to be more powerful than any of them, but still, it's very close, its not like he literally solos every king

[next estuary]

I aint even backread it just happens every time I open this channel

[crimson yacht]

Who knows how strong they are

[sage temple]

I need friends dawg where is Vortex when I need him

[formal wagon]

friendship wins

[crimson yacht]

but we can't use them to scale Harald

or Loki

cause no one knows how strong these random kings are

[wraith mantle]

Hi mailbox

[formal wagon]

hi

[fresh silo]

loki is stronger than shanks and mihawk straightly put forward he didn't even know the full potential of his df when he used it with harald, and shanks was required to put loki in chains in underworld, we don't know if shanks solo'd it, but it is unlikely shanks could do it alone, and saying mihawk>shanks without any reasoning is just stupid

[crimson yacht]

The whole Loki and Shanks thing hasn't been shown yet

so saying either or are stronger

doesn't really have any evidence

but Mihawk > Shanks is obvious because he's currently the Strongest Swordsman in the world

[fresh silo]

even if mihawk>shanks then it like deadlifting 301 and 299 respectively, if put in ur words,

[vital heart]

@alpine trench @ashen perch Yall are smart right. I have a question. do you know if luffy mentioned wanting to sail the grand line to meet everyone they've seen again? if so, which chapter?

[crimson yacht]

its close but Zoro will surpass both

[fresh silo]

we haven't seen any of them , and even if mihawk > shanks, then it is not a massive gap, sure mihawk could br stronger but not by a lot, u could put it in gym words , if mihawk deadlifts 300 kgs then shanks is just a little behind with 295

[next estuary]

Shanks is at 301 actually

Shanks allows Mihawk to keep his title

To help Mihawk pay off his debts

[crimson yacht]

yeah its extreme diff

[sage temple]

Yeah he's differentiating himself from that group because he knows Ragnir is about to choose him once he uses his strength to make it submit

[next estuary]

Mostly for insurance FRAUD

[crimson yacht]

Confirmed by Oda

[fresh silo]

i m saying this to put some 'intellect' in this guys head

[crimson yacht]

yes which means nothing here is confirming Harald has fought it in the past and failed

thats just an assumption

it could be true

but it could also be false

which is why you cant use it

[fresh silo]

thats what i m saying, so loki is like at 310 probably, we can't really say he is weak

[fast pagoda]

https://x.com/fumitica/status/1991850615212056716?s=46

ヒラチ フミタカ🐕 (@Fumitica)

軍子描いたよ　#onepiecefanart

X · Nov 21, 2025, 12:46 PM

[crimson yacht]

I dont think Lok iis stronger than

shanks or Mihawk

[azure wasp]

Do you think loki stronger then harald?

[fresh silo]

yeahh, even if harald was trying to hold back his senses, loki killed him when he didn't know full potential of his devil fruit, and idts loki has been a fighter all along, so loki is really exceptionally strong

[azure wasp]

So loki > rocks?

[fresh silo]

i doubt this statement, they all are most likely to be at 'almost' the same power level

[sage temple]

Arguably yeah

[fresh silo]

thats why loki is said to broke a lot of powerscaling

[sage temple]

Loki could definitely be weaker but it doesn't seem like that's the case

[crimson yacht]

I doubt it

[sage temple]

Okay so nothing's denying or confirming Loki being stronger than Rocks

Meaning Loki is arguably stronger

[crimson yacht]

sure

it doesn't mean Zoro wont be #2 eos

[fresh silo]

man u can't really say that shanks is way under mihawk and loki is way under shanks, it is really close , loki is most likely to be above both of them, rocks even said that the devil fruit he needed was that loki consumed, so it is a broken devil fruit for sure

[crimson yacht]

Loki jus won't be over Shanks

THe whole Loki captured Shanks thing

[fresh silo]

well, we don't know how shanks did it, maybe it was the whole crew ?

[crimson yacht]

being actually just Shanks mickey moused his way to getting Loki into chains

[sage temple]

It doesn't mean Loki won't be #2 eos

[fresh silo]

maybe gaban also helped?

[sage temple]

That's also an assumption

Using your own logic you can't use that either

[crimson yacht]

Its an assumption but it's a more likely one

[fresh silo]

i support loki #2

[crimson yacht]

Shanks capturing Loki in some sort of

weird way

that wouldn't be a direct fight

is extremely

unlikely

[sage temple]

It could be Poison, Agreement, Hostage, etc. and even if it was a fight, it could've been a bunch of strong people including Shanks against Loki

[fresh silo]

so that just means shanks couldn't simply defeat loki

[ruby moat]

Loki won’t be #2 and Zoro won’t either.

[crimson yacht]

😂 Point is all of these things could be possible

[ruby moat]

https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExc3o5Z3RranVvMnQyNnQzc2gzYWtvZG11MXpid3lsY245ZjJuZG9vMCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/8n0niPRCOoDt0omABf/giphy.gif

[crimson yacht]

It just isn't the most likely

[crimson yacht]

coby got an argument

i got zoro #2 or #3

unless u think blackbeard or sum would still be alive

[sage temple]

Okay and all of these things don't prove Shanks is stronger than Loki

[crimson yacht]

but I doubt it

[compact star]

👋

[crimson yacht]

They don't but its extremely unlikely

[sage temple]

Loki and Shanks 1v1ing isn't the most likely either

[azure wasp]

Get that eos vice admiral out of here

[crimson yacht]

It actually is the most likely 😂

[fresh silo]

i doubt that Blackbeard would be alive

[crimson yacht]

When has Shanks jumped somebody

[sage temple]

Multiple people against Shanks is equally likely

[crimson yacht]

No it's not

When has shanks actually jumped somebody canonically

[sage temple]

Shanks hasn't needed to jump anyone

[carmine dust]

shanks full stock haki knots is stronger

[crimson yacht]

Then how are you saying its equally

[sage temple]

Because everyone he's faced are weaker than him

[crimson yacht]

likely if he has never done it

[ruby moat]

lol he has vice admiral bounty in egghead he’s already there

[sage temple]

Because if Loki is stronger than Shanks thats how Shanks would win in a fight

[crimson yacht]

• its said Shanks captured Loki not the entire red haired pirates

[azure wasp]

Inflation

[sage temple]

if I say:
"Years ago, a man named Strawhat Luffy killed Kaido"

it can have the same meaning as Gaban saying:
"Years ago, a man named Red-Haired Shanks captured Loki"

Leaving the possibility of Shanks having help in his presumed fight against Loki which isn't confirmed in by itself

[fresh silo]

nahhh, at this point its just like saying luffy alone defeated kaidi

[azure wasp]

While it's possible it was a jumping there's not any real reason to assume it was

[sage temple]

There is

[carmine dust]

all of that just to be no diffed by urouge

[crimson yacht]

Perhaps

but shanks has never jumped anyone

the assumption is less likely than he just beat loki

[sage temple]

I'm not assuming he didn't 1v1 Loki

[crimson yacht]

and Shanks beating Loki just further reinforces the established power scaling anyways

[sage temple]

I'm saying it's equally likely as Shanks jumping Loki

[crimson yacht]

Equally likely means there would be some basis behind Shanks jumping him compared to a 1v1

[sage temple]

Shanks jumped Harald with Gaban and stopped because he knew what he was doing wouldn't be effective

[crimson yacht]

Shanks has done 1v1s

His duels with Mihawk were 1v1s

He coulda just jumped Mihawk

[shadow python]

Kidd would argue that Shanks jumped him

[sage temple]

Shanks 2v1ed Harald

[crimson yacht]

Different context fights

Shanks wanted to somehow save Gaban

[sage temple]

Did he lose to Mihawk in a 1v1?

[fresh silo]

so acc. to u , mihawk > shanks > loki > harald = rocks

[crimson yacht]

and they needed to stop his rampage asap

[shadow python]

We don't know the context of the Loki fight

[crimson yacht]

Probably

[sage temple]

Yeah by beating him

[crimson yacht]

who knows

but he's never won

is what we know

when he coulda just jumped Mihawk

[alpine trench]

He didn’t say that, he gets reminded of someone in the past that he wants to see again sure but there’s no panel anywhere as such like that

[sage temple]

Has he ever lost?

[crimson yacht]

Shanks has never jumped anybody in the entire series so how is him jumping Loki EQUALLY LIKELY than him 1v1ing

[fresh silo]

nahhh, this seems so hilarious

[sage temple]

If it was going to end in him losing then he has plenty reaosn to jump him

[fresh silo]

we haven't seen shanks fighting anyone tho ?

[crimson yacht]

No 😂 You're just misinterpreting the point of these fights

[shadow python]

Shanks wins against Mihawk because Mihawk refuses to fight a cripple giving Shanks the default win

[fresh silo]

how can we assume he has never jumped

[crimson yacht]

Did blackbeard scar shanks in a 1v8

like

[sage temple]

Because jumping people stronger than you alone has been done multiple times in this series

[crimson yacht]

All of these have the context of a 1v1 behind them

even though shanks has a whole crew

[sage temple]

Shanks didn't lose to Blackbeard

Shanks has gotten lots of scars

[crimson yacht]

Yes but shanks suffered a significant injury from blackbeard

[sage temple]

Oh my god Shanks has never 1v1ed someone stronger than him

[crimson yacht]

Blackbeard left unharmed

Thats a loss

[shadow python]

I mean probably. Bb was in Wbs crew and it seems unlikely they'd just let their non commander member fight the red haired pirates captain alone

[sage temple]

Shanks has never been in a 1v1 where his opponent is stronger than him

[crimson yacht]

If you fight someone and you're the one significantly injured and the other guy is fine

[sage temple]

So he has had no reason to jump them

[crimson yacht]

you just lost the fight

[crimson yacht]

Mihawk is stronger than him

[solid mantle]

Kaido? WB? not that there were full on fights on screen

[shadow python]

Shanks got into a 1 v 1 with old Whitebeard

[fresh silo]

shanks is a pirate and in pirate world there nothing fair or unfair 🤷🏻

[crimson yacht]

Bro theres literally no basis for shanks JUMPING LOKI to be equally as likely as him 1v1ing him

[sage temple]

This is another assumption

[crimson yacht]

To say that is wild

[sage temple]

Yes there is

Because Loki being stronger than Shanks would force Shanks to jump him

[crimson yacht]

if you said that for Luffy it would be more understandable because Luffy rarely has straight up 1v1 only fights

especially after the timeskip

[azure wasp]

No it isn't

[crimson yacht]

almost every fight hes like jumping someone or is getting help

[sage temple]

Yeah because Luffy rarely fights people stronger than him in a 1v1

[sage temple]

Yeah because he needs it or he'll lose

[crimson yacht]

This is just an assumption

You're making an assumption to then and try to push another assumption

[sage temple]

No it isn't

[crimson yacht]

which isnt how this works

You cant say im gonna assume shanks is weaker to then make another assumptino

[sage temple]

I'm not saying this happend you brick

[crimson yacht]

and claim its equally likely

[crimson yacht]

Yes it is?

You're saying Shanks jumping Loki would mean Loki would have to be stronger

[shadow python]

There's basis. Loki refers to Shanks as a coward suggesting that it was not a fair fight if there was ever a fight at all. This current chapter also suggests that base Loki let alone post fruit Loki with squirrel was stronger than Shanks at the time. 8 years later Shanks would lose an arm and Loki would have 8 years to master his new power and partner

[fresh silo]

maybe it's becuase they are pirates ??? and luffy had a 1v1 with katakuri , and it was a really a fair fight, even luffy said when that girl hit him that there is nothing unfair in a pirate's fight

[sage temple]

You're assuming Mihawk is stronger than Shanks using this logic

What are you on about

[crimson yacht]

The assumption ( shanks jumping Loki ) is backed by ANOTHER ASSUMPTION ( Loki > Shanks)

So how are you gonna claim an assumption in an assumption is as EQUALLY POSSIBLE as Shanks 1v1ing Loki

That makes 0 sense 😂

[fresh silo]

yeahh, loki is stronger, he has ragnir and his devil fruit is really broken , we know more about him than shanks' powers

[sage temple]

Yeah and Shanks beating Loki in a 1v1 is backed by Loki < Shanks

[crimson yacht]

Lol thats not what im saying

Im saying a 1v1 occuring

you can run a 1v1 in a fight where you're weaker or stronger than your opponent

Luffy does this all the time

[sage temple]

Loki was captured so he obviously lost in whatever way

[crimson yacht]

but to say Shanks jumping Loki is as possible as Shanks 1v1ing Loki makes no sense

You have to make numerous assumptions for the 1st circumstance to be possible 😂

[sage temple]

That's just saying Loki < Shanks in a different way

[sage temple]

You have to assume Shanks is stronger than Loki for that second one as well if anything

[crimson yacht]

Im talking about the event occuring

im not talking about the outcome

[fast pagoda]

Socrates would you despise me if I believed that Loki is just equal to Shanks but both are stronget than Mihawk

[sage temple]

"Numerous" and I'm saying Shanks would NEED to jump Loki since he'd be stronger than Shanks

[crimson yacht]

bro to form this take is to make all wrong answers

[crimson yacht]

No you don't

[sage temple]

Yeah because the outcome is established

[crimson yacht]

You can 1v1 opponents all the time

[sage temple]

It doesn't matter what you're talking about

[fresh silo]

nah u don't have to, loki is on par with a lot of top tiers now, if u think this is an assumption, u might as well say that ur existence is an assumption

[fresh silo]

so what if shanks lost then?????

[crimson yacht]

Shanks obviously didnt lose

because Loki is in chains

[sage temple]

Okay so you're assuming Loki is weaker than Shanks

[fresh silo]

so u r assuming that shanks > loki

[shadow python]

I would probably say with our current information Shanks 1 v 1'ing is less likely. Loki is at the very least stronger than possessed Harald and regular non immortal Harald was a match for Rocks. It's possible that Shanks and by extension Mihawk is simply that much stronger but we can't ignore the possibility that Loki was telling the truth and Shanks won by cowardice a means besides straight battle

[crimson yacht]

All i'm saying is that the basis that Shanks jumping Loki is as likely as Shanks 1v1ing Loki has no evidence

[ruby moat]

gaban's statement only including shanks is enough proof for a 1v1 to be atleast slightly more likely than a gank.

[crimson yacht]

Yes that is the assumption I'M MAKING

as my own

personal opinion

[glacial bear]

If Loki won. Would Shanks be tied up in Haki Knots instead of Sea Prism Stone chains ?

[fresh silo]

so i make a claim that loki > shanks and shanks jumped loki

[glacial bear]

They could be special rope Knots that drains a person’s haki

[shadow python]

That doesn't seem to be the case. We have a statement from Loki casting doubt on Shanks' ability. We have Gyaban holding Loki in higher regard than Shanks before two separate powerups. And we have Loki confident he can beat Shanks currently despite being aware of whatever happened 6 years ago.

[sage temple]

You're trying to act like Loki getting jumped by Shanks is unlikely because Shanks hasn't done it before

I say Shanks hasn't needed to do it before because he literally hasn't needed to with all of his 1v1 opponents being < or = to him

You assume Mihawk is stronger than Shanks as some typa couter example

[crimson yacht]

Mihawk > Shanks isn't even an assumption

I'm not saying its unlikely

I'm saying its less likely than a 1v1

[sage temple]

Yes it is

[crimson yacht]

Shanks isnt someone who jumps opponents

[sage temple]

Mihawk > Shanks definitely isn't a fact

[crimson yacht]

so thats why im saying its

less likely than a 1v1

[crimson yacht]

Strongest Swordsman > Swordsman isnt a fact

https://tenor.com/view/staring-at-you-mark-phillips-rdcworld1-looking-at-you-glancing-at-you-gif-13248227540072700931

[fresh silo]

how can u say that

[sage temple]

Did I say you said it was unlikely

[crimson yacht]

You said i'm acting like it is

but I'm not

Im just saying its less likely than a 1v1

[sage temple]

It really isn't that title is false

[crimson yacht]

because Shanks has never jumped anyone

[crimson yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/solluminati-smile-solluminati-meme-tiktok-solluminati-wave-gif-13040421985693959078

The title that Zoro is achieving is false

Zoro will defeat someone that isnt the strongest swordsman

and Oda will throw away 25+ years of writing to fit an agenda that Mihawk isnt the Strongest Swordsman

You see how much mental gymnastics is required to make that claim

when you can just believe whats said which is Mihawk is Strongest and Zoro will take the title

[fresh silo]

he sure could be strongest swordsmen, but what makes u say that shanks only relies on his sword to fight, he could use haki only too, making him more powerful, we don't know yet the way he fights

[crimson yacht]

Shanks fights exactly like Zoro does

Swing with sword and coat with haki

[fallen meteor]

i'm praying oda just shows what the fuck happened next chapter because those discussions are 100% the worst thing to ever happen in this server

[crimson yacht]

Zoro's way of fighting is actually way more absurd

[fresh silo]

😂😂

[shadow python]

We know that Mihawk refuses to fight one armed Shanks. We know that 2 armed Shanks lost or at the very least was scarred by No fruit BB. Same 2 armed Shanks was decidedly weaker than base Loki. We don't know when Mihawk and Shanks' duels were but if they already happened then either Shanks got significantly stronger from when he was even with Mihawk. Or Shanks beat Loki through means besides straight battle

[crimson yacht]

hes fighting with a sword in his mouth and

3 blades

[crimson yacht]

I swear 😂

Like just show the Shanks and Loki confrontation

[sage temple]

You make some fine points

[crimson yacht]

I've just chosen to believe what makes the most sense when writing a story

[fresh silo]

i m sure that fb would be over

[crimson yacht]

I think its more ridiculous for Oda as a writer to just say Mihawks title was never true and Shanks is the strongest swordsman or some random other guy

[sage temple]

Doesn't Imu use a sword?

[crimson yacht]

If its really revealed that Shanks jumped Loki or captured him in some odd way then I'll take back what I said

[shadow python]

Was Kaidos worlds strongest creature title true when Squirrel exists?

[crimson yacht]

and i guess Loki really is just

top 3

[fallen meteor]

if shanks is stronger than mihawk it will just be a King situation

[crimson yacht]

but until then im sticking to my agenda

[fresh silo]

i doubt that

[crimson yacht]

Never seen him fight with one

[red lagoon]

Haki is not a fighting style it just ENHACES what u use

[cosmic hamlet]

Are we powerscaling?

[tranquil blade]

Nahh you havent seen the haki avatars yet, that doesnt count as swordsmanship

[fallen meteor]

we are pontentially powerscaling

[crimson yacht]

All i know is BLACKBEARD IS THE GOAT

[fallen meteor]

its the worst time

[fresh silo]

GARP USES ONLY FISTS TO FIGHT I MEANT IN THAT REGARD...... but whatever i think my point was irrelevant as shanks seems to fight with sword only and is infact weaker than mihawk

[cosmic hamlet]

Okay then rank these characters as per power level

Hancock
King
Katakuri
Lucci

[crimson yacht]

Even if shanks didnt fight with a sword and whipped out a gun

how is throwing away his powerful blade

and equipping a flintlock

a power boost

[red lagoon]

Hard to say

All Ik is Lucci the weakes

[fallen meteor]

what is the potential situation they are in? we need to dress the scenario before thinking

[fresh silo]

King
Katakuri
Hancock
Lucci

[sage temple]

If Shanks never lost in a 1v1 agianst Mihawk then how do we know Mihawk's stronger other than the title

[shadow python]

Do we think that Luffy will surpass Shanks? Probably. Do we think that Zoro will surpass Mihawk? Probably. Do we think that Sanji will surpass Shanks? Probably not.

These statements can't work if Shanks = Mihawk and Zoro = Sanji. Something has to give

[red lagoon]

Hancock slept on

[tranquil blade]

The day powerscaling dies is the day peace can be restored

[cosmic hamlet]

No situation, its a battle royale

[red lagoon]

Why probably not

[shadow python]

Fine "definitely not"

[cosmic hamlet]

My ranking is
Katakuri
Hancock
Lucci
King

[fresh silo]

if we see in that regards, whitebeard officially is never shown to win against roger, how do we know he is the strongest man

[fallen meteor]

needs to be like
hancock that didnt sleep for a week,
king without all his bones,
katakuri without both of his legs
lucci with 10 tails and no arms
or else its not what is happening rn

[red lagoon]

If zoro surpass Mihawk

Sanji finna be up there too

[cosmic hamlet]

No

[cosmic hamlet]

Agree

[fresh silo]

i believe king should be higher, he gave zoro a lot of trouble and being a lunarian is a difficult opponent

[red lagoon]

Hancock got one of the best hax in the series

[cosmic hamlet]

I think lucci and king are about the same

[fallen meteor]

uhh
Hancock, Lucci, King, Katakuri i think

[sage temple]

If you have multiple 1v1s with the guy and neither win how is either stronger

[red lagoon]

Lucci above king and katakuri

[mighty roost]

why lucci that high

[red lagoon]

Did we not see how zoro did Lucci?!

[cosmic hamlet]

I will put him in 3rd above lucci

[shadow python]

King was only an issue because he was invulnerable

[fallen meteor]

he's a cool cat

[shadow python]

Lucci did look better not factoring in invincibility

[fresh silo]

lucci is the weakest that is what requires no argument

[red lagoon]

Zoro is not handling king and katakuri like he did Lucci

Zoro doesn’t even have the chance to play with 2ss against those two

[tranquil blade]

Katakuri probably loses the first hit Zoro would land

[crimson yacht]

Because the fight is extreme diff. Shanks never losing means the fight never lasted long enough for there to be a victor. However, Mihawk still has the edge, shanks is just able to last long in a fight with him because they are still close in strength.

[red lagoon]

If he lands it

[tranquil blade]

He will

[fallen meteor]

i dont get why katakuri gets so high on those lists

[shadow python]

Zoro one shot King as soon as he was able to hurt him. Lucci tanked Zoros finishing blow and kept fighting while Zoro ran away

[sage temple]

Hm alr

[red lagoon]

Katakuri was dodging snakeman Luffy still

[cosmic hamlet]

Yeah okay

Katakuri
Hancock
King
Lucci

1 and 2 are interchangeable tbh because hancock has op df but katakuri has future sight to be prepared

[red lagoon]

That started using future sight

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/druski-rage-angry-annoyed-whatever-gif-5126333390325209476

[crimson yacht]

i have lucci > katakuri

[tranquil blade]

Katakuri took like 9 hits the entire fight and still came out at best tieing with Luffy

[shadow python]

Wci luffy

[crimson yacht]

boa vs katakuri is debatable

[red lagoon]

His durability probably not the best but his speed is

[crimson yacht]

would katakuri fall for her charms

[red lagoon]

And he did also carve out half his stomach against Luffy

[shadow python]

Luffy got like 3 different power ups since then and still felt the need to use gear 5 on Lucci

[crimson yacht]

why did lola reject loki

[cosmic hamlet]

Yes, katakuri was able to keep up with luffy g4 snakeman before luffy unlocked future sight.

The reason why he took initial blows is because he only saw little bit into the future and was able to figure out the trick luffy used later

[crimson yacht]

was loki inlove with lola

[red lagoon]

He didn’t m need 65

[shadow python]

Base Luffy should be enough for Kata at this point

[fresh silo]

i wouldput hancock above katakuri tbh, bit nothing's wrong as it is

[red lagoon]

I could see Hancock beating katakuri

[fresh silo]

i doubt he needed to use G5 , he just did it for one ig

[red lagoon]

We she got adv obs and future sight (both her sisters use it)

[shadow python]

Bb was worried Hancock was a threat to his life. She was more of a threat than Law the guy who killed Katas mommy

[red lagoon]

I means adv arm and future sight

[cosmic hamlet]

Both hancock and katakuri has future potential because they have CoC. Unlike king who doesn't

[crimson yacht]

What is the strongest character Franky beats

[red lagoon]

Boa probably running 2/3 adv hakis already and op df

[cosmic hamlet]

Robin

[crimson yacht]

bruh

[red lagoon]

Both her sisters have it so we can just safely assume she got the same adv haki

[shadow python]

Robin easily beats Franky he has no defense for dos clutch

[cosmic hamlet]

What? robin is strong, she beat a tobi roppi

[fallen meteor]

robin beats franky

[cosmic hamlet]

He has that robot

Robin can't clutch robot

[shadow python]

Franky is stronger than the shogun

Sasaki beat the shogun but lost to Franky

[fresh silo]

i think the same

[fallen meteor]

i mean
big ass robin can probably tear it apart at the joints

using clutch tech

[cosmic hamlet]

You expect franky to stay still while robin do that?

[shadow python]

Robin doesn't have haki she can't tear steel let alone wapometal

[cosmic hamlet]

He can use lasers

[fallen meteor]

yeah she does it at the joints

[cosmic hamlet]

And robot doesn't have them

[fallen meteor]

i think her big self is just faster than his big robot

[fallen meteor]

?? its a solid chunk of metal?

[cosmic hamlet]

Her big body is easy target for lasers

[shadow python]

Doesn't matter it can't do anything to it

[olive sigil]

If Franky were to shoot a laser at Robin, Jinbe would beat him to death

[remote maple]

true

[charred heart]

when is the next chapter comming out

[shadow python]

Franky loses to Robin's ball buster. Franky shogun is a different factor entirely

[cosmic hamlet]

Jimbe is busy with delivery services

[remote maple]

next week

[olive sigil]

I think Franky is stronger in his normal form but against Robin I think he’s better off using the shogun. And one laser in the right direction and the battle ends. Robin needs to be very precise to beat him without injuring herself

[cosmic hamlet]

So franky wins?

[shadow python]

Franky shogun doesn't have the laser Franky leaves the cockpit to do it himself

Franky shogun is not Franky. I don't agree with giving him the weapon for a hypothetical vs Robin

[fallen meteor]

realistically she can take apart his legs pretty easily but its up to oda if he wants to treat the legs as a solid chunk of metal or something leverable

[cosmic hamlet]

Robin can't produce arms where she can't see right?

I think there is one instance where she did but idk

[pulsar path]

I gotta make this is armored core

[cosmic hamlet]

I mean he is powerful enough to defend his legs. He won't simply sit still

[fallen meteor]

true

[fallen meteor]

if she holds him its over, for me
unless hes like flying around dodging etc

[pulsar path]

Honestly battle Franky should have centaur legs

[fallen meteor]

he needs urgot knees

[trim lily]

crabky

[fallen meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/skin-league-of-legends-lol-skibidi-clog-father-gif-5788256870519286839

[gritty shuttle]

Id cry

[trim lily]

cola shotgun knees

[fallen meteor]

no need to be bipedal on a big robot

and shotgun knees!!!!!!

huge upgrade for franky

[shadow python]

I don't believe Robin can rip apart Shoguns legs.

Even if she could rip apart shoguns legs I don't see how that helps her

I don't think Shogun should be allowed for a Franky v Robin fight any of the strawhats could in theory pilot Shogun

[fallen meteor]

@Oda do this

[olive sigil]

It’s something he built himself to fight. It’s literally his weapon. If he can’t use the weapon she can’t use the fruit

[shadow python]

Should he also get access to the thousand sunny?

[trim lily]

franky with no technology vs robin with no fruit

[fallen meteor]

hmm

does franky fight

[trim lily]

actually how much of the original franky is even left now

[shadow python]

Robin is a bad matchup for Shogun but Shogun is weaker than Franky himself

[fallen meteor]

like does he do martial arts or something

[trim lily]

isnt he like 90% tech

[cosmic hamlet]

[olive sigil]

Any strawhats could pick up zoro’s swords, does that mean he can’t fight with them?

[trim lily]

the franky of theseus...

[fallen meteor]

like if you strip his tech can franky do something that isnt regular punch normal kick

[cosmic hamlet]

Yeah, old franky is goat

[trail mountain]

It 1:00 should i go to sleep

[cosmic hamlet]

Pre ts franky i mean

[olive sigil]

No

[hazy echo]

https://x.com/nauthynomus/status/2010009989516276212

nomus 🪲 (@nauthynomus)

jinbei again 🐟

X · Jan 10, 2026, 3:25 PM

[fallen meteor]

because robin has at least fishman karate

[trail mountain]

Bet yes

[shadow python]

Strip all of his tech Franky isn't Franky anymore. Strip him of his Shogun and he's better in pretty much every matchup except Robin

[fallen meteor]

so in theory its like a karate fighter vs a dude

[shadow python]

And I guess Chopper, but Chopper isn't doing anything to either Franky

[cosmic hamlet]

If franky vs robin really happens

Which side the remaining 8 strawhats will pick?

[fallen meteor]

you wont like what i say

[cosmic hamlet]

Luffy will pick franky

[shadow python]

Luffy: Franky
Zoro: Franky
Sanji: Robin
Nami: Robin
Usopp: Franky
Chopper: Robin
Brook: Robin
Jinbabe: Robin

[fallen meteor]

for me it feels like idk 6 to 7 robin picks

[tranquil blade]

https://tenor.com/view/lowtiercat-ptsdcat-gif-2094566730569540919

[cosmic hamlet]

Chopper is robin? I always thought chopper is very found of franky tech. He along with luffy always gets the star eyes when they see franky tech

[shadow python]

Chopper loves the techs but Robin gives him cotton candy

[fallen meteor]

robin is like #1 chopper fan

if he doesnt pick her it would be very sad

[cosmic hamlet]

[olive sigil]

Brook would choose Franky

[shadow python]

Vivi would probably pick Franky. She doesn't know him but she does know Miss all Sunday

[fallen meteor]

i feel this is the perfect arc for oda to do a civil war moment in the SHs

[olive sigil]

He’s the only one who has shown him his panties

[fallen meteor]

just do domi reversi on half

[cosmic hamlet]

[shadow python]

Robin showed her panties in egghead

[cosmic hamlet]

I'm sold

Brook will pick franky

[fallen meteor]

oda is always doing the cliches we dont think he's going to explore so do it, oda

[olive sigil]

There’s 4 strawhats who left the crew so it could be interesting

[olive sigil]

But Franky shows them all the time

[shadow python]

Nami, Chopper, Usopp, Robin and arguably Sanji left the crew

In the anime Robin and Chopper left multiple times

[cosmic hamlet]

Why is sanji arguably?

[shadow python]

Officially speaking he said he'd be right back. The Sanji v Luffy fight happened which inferred Sanji was leaving but Luffy was having none of it

[cosmic hamlet]

Eh still left the crew

[shadow python]

If we count breaks then Jinbabe also left the crew

[cosmic hamlet]

Only usopp left because of difference in opinions and no blackmail involved

[shadow python]

Nami wasn't blackmailed

[cosmic hamlet]

She was by arlong

To bring the money

[shadow python]

Arlong didn't know what Nami was doing nor did he care. Nami chose to betray the strawhats because she wanted to hurry up with her plans

Interestingly if Luffy didn't give the gold back to the mayor in Orange Nami probably would have had the whole 100 million

[cosmic hamlet]

I didn't say they blackmailed to leave the crew. I said blackmail was involved.

Arlong did blackmail nami to bring the money to save the village

[shadow python]

The specific term has a different meaning. But yes Nami was coerced into betraying the strawhats for the sake of Arlong.

[cosmic hamlet]

Yes and there is no blackmail involved in any angle for usopp

Idk if chopper is considered blackmail it was during lrll?

[shadow python]

Closer than Nami I suppose. Chopper could have ignored the Davy rule but then he'd have been called a cheater and the strawhats would be shamed

[hoary steppe]

Loki is a serpent

[olive sigil]

Right now nami Usopp Brook and jinbe also left the crew

[formal wagon]

lets see loki get past krieg

[fallen meteor]

true

[formal wagon]

lets see loki get past being chained to tree

lets see loki get past the deaths of his loved ones

[cosmic hamlet]

Explain

Oh

Nevermind

[cosmic hamlet]

He did already get past the chains though

Only sea prison stone left

Why no one calls sea prison stone as SPS

[sage temple]

I would think someone failed at spelling SBS

[scenic dirge]

Where chapter

It’s been so long

Or has it? I don’t even know anymore

[cosmic hamlet]

Meek is sleeping so no chapter until he wakes up

[tranquil blade]

That's deep Chekhov's second giant sword

[cosmic hamlet]

@vital heart wait up and work on the chapter

[sage temple]

One Piece ended

[cosmic hamlet]

More like axed

[fallen meteor]

It was getting hammered online

[cosmic hamlet]

People didn't like loki character so oda had to axe the series

[formal wagon]

im glad oda finally did the right thing

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/papacy-papa-pope-leo-xiv-ring-of-fisherman-gif-16472066304115808028

[formal wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/conclave-lawrence-conclave-cardinal-lawrence-ralph-fiennes-gif-12914851409427151541

[fallen meteor]

i find the randomest shit online

watching sumo live rn

[sage temple]

Sb would say this is gore and ping everyone for it

[grand flower]

Bruh I think I broke my foot

[mighty roost]

fix it

[fallen meteor]

how

[grand flower]

You right

[grand flower]

That’s a good question

[sage temple]

!vent

[tropic nova]

DON'T VENT YOUR ISSUES HERE

[fallen meteor]

you have no idea??

[fast pagoda]

I remember I posted about spraining my ankle last week and you said I should do situps

So I got mad and orchestrated you breaking your foot sorry

[grand flower]

Lmaoooo

[blazing depot]

Thanks AI

[rain cedar]

Rogger

[strong wadi]

Will never forget due to that chapter

[high wolf]

How do you NOT know this 💔

[past maple]

No problem

[prisma yacht]

found this on insta @manofbeskar

https://tenor.com/view/omg-cat-no-cry-gif-22962113

[cloud adder]

my heart 💔 💔 💔

shamrock wearing roger's hat is crazyyyy

[prisma yacht]

[vivid needle]

Hey guys

[prisma yacht]

Monke king

[rose rune]

for some reason I got the urge to repost as AI

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/colorreaper/status/2010160503646253076/photo/1

Kevin Shah (@colorreaper)

👊 Luffy VS Kaido 🐉

I don’t know if I’ll ever catch up on this series 😓

#ONEPIECE #throwback

X · Jan 11, 2026, 1:23 AM

[cosmic hamlet]

Better than whatever toei made

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/MrAnimer_X/status/2010248815862001993/photo/1

Mr Animer (@MrAnimer_X)

The feels.

#onepiece #art

X · Jan 11, 2026, 7:14 AM

[vital heart]

@muted hedge

You are shamrock

@cloud adder

You are shanks

Who is Garling?

[rose rune]

a very deep question

[frozen aspen]

icon?

[rose rune]

oh yeah. icon has a garling pfp

[ornate tartan]

👀

icon is garling

[unique lagoon]

ragnir new SH supporter

[thick mango]

Have shanks and doffy ever interacted

[alpine trench]

no

[thick mango]

It seems like he might dislike him. Coulda rejoined cd but threw it away

[maiden saffron]

one of the coolest g5 drawings by oda

[muted hedge]

it would be interesting to hear what Doflamingo thinks about each of the families up in Marijoa

maybe he dislikes some more than others

[muted hedge]

definitely Icon

[formal wagon]

Idea: ghost of christmas swag. He wears a green windbreaker with a red waist bag, and he haunts you by looking like that and saying evil shit like "do you like my outfit" "yo, where'd you buy that" and "i've got that shirt too" but like in a creepy ghost voice

Idea: ghost of christmas swag 2: he shows you memes on his phone and if you ask him to stop YOU DIE

Idea: ghost of christmas math: it talks about math

are these scary, lmk

[thick mango]

Kid and loki are two people who come to mind I wonder if bb could build up a small coalition of people who want to take down shanks. Is there anyone else? Barto prob not even though he might want shanks revenge

[muted hedge]

Blackbeard collecting a group of haters, lol

[formal wagon]

ghost of christmas path: really into transportation infrastructure

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/PookiePiece/status/1905124207110857215/photo/1

Pookie (@PookiePiece)

NEW OFFICIAL NAMI AND ROBIN ART

FROM ZOZOTOWN X ONEPIECE

X · Mar 27, 2025, 5:06 AM

[prisma yacht]

#wiki

[ornate tartan]

🐐

[formal wagon]

ghost of christmas gasp:

[daring hamlet]

😭

[thick mango]

I hope bb gets a 4th stage even more elaborate beard. It's been a steady progression since jaya where he had barely any beard

[maiden saffron]

moon god beard

a peg leg and an eyepatch too

i think Luffy's gonna be the spitting image of joyboy and Blackbeard of Davy Jones

the later of which i think is gonna be a textbook representation of a pirate

[muted hedge]

set it on fire already

[ocean sigil]

Finally chapter week starts

[unique lagoon]

woooo yeah lesgooo

cant wait for 8 years of pirate loki and shanks capturing him
surely oda wont skip this and make things vague again

[rain cedar]

Definitely not happening even in the most optimistic scenario

[sharp stag]

Shanks couldve been pirate king couldve been joyboy couldve found the one piece couldve been immortal

[high wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/justin-bieber-get-a-load-of-this-guy-gif-14335263024591785376

[sharp stag]

Instead he decides to crack makino

Am i wrong

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/view/zesty-cat-niklas-cat-tongue-gif-9842551414196208576

[untold latch]

yes you are

[high wolf]

Yes

[formal wagon]

better than rumor man

[cold steppe]

At least he's not coping

Like garp

[sharp stag]

How

[digital spear]

Thats why he cant be all that anymore? What are you even talking about

[graceful belfry]

😭

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/higashida_623/status/2010317619556131275/photo/1

ひがし田 (@higashida_623)

🏴‍☠️

X · Jan 11, 2026, 11:47 AM

[graceful belfry]

“Why’s my goat getting with beautiful women instead of focusing on becoming Pirate King” is hilarious

[cosmic hamlet]

Nami is cute

[spiral sapphire]

so we get another flashback i guess this week?

[rain cedar]

Roger did both

[celest mauve]

yes

aftermath of the castle massacre

this isn't a spoiler btw, it's just a very strong assumption based on how the previous chapter went

[spiral sapphire]

man can't wait to get back to the current events....

need to see Loki in full action

[ornate tartan]

it won’t be the whole chapter tho

oda will wrap up everything this week and it will pan to the underworld in the last couple of panels

[ocean sigil]

I see chat is silent

Lemme post some power scaling question

Versus

Which group wins? And Boas love for Luffy doesnt count, its 3 vs 9 not 4 vs 8.

Me personally leans towards the 3 Yonkos, but I cant say how powerful Mihawk, Kuma and Boa would become if they go all out

It could even be a win for the Shichibukai

[sly belfry]

zoro wins

[ocean sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/my-respect-for-you-is-immense-i-respect-you-admire-i-appreciate-you-jon-taffer-gif-17021565

[sly belfry]

warlords would win btw

[digital spear]

So glue

[final trench]

They didnt listen to shiki

Which is why i cant wait for his return

https://tenor.com/view/shiki-gold-lion-one-piece-laugh-laughter-gif-21016118

[final trench]

Yonko got it ngl

[cold steppe]

Marineford happened
So yonko easly

[ocean sigil]

I'm leaning towards it too but honestly now sure

[prisma idol]

Eh, I would say Yonko, Luffy is a hard counter to Boa. Croc and Moria I believe would be easily handled. The biggest Threats here are Law, Mihawk, and Kuma

[ocean sigil]

Half of the yonko didnt even try

[rose rune]

also, weevil solos the whitebeard pirates

[prisma idol]

Mihawk being the biggest issue

[ocean sigil]

We dont count Boas love, its pure hate for all of them

[final trench]

Kaido got mihawk

[digital spear]

You mean warlords

[ocean sigil]

Its a real 3 vs 9

[prisma idol]

Luffy still handles her as the beam doesn't work on him

[ocean sigil]

Yes yes sorry Sir

[rose rune]

he's not wrong tho. whitebeard tried hard, shanks just showed up

[ocean sigil]

Her hits would work tho, like they did on pacifista

[digital spear]

[rose rune]

you could also say 2 out of 4 yonko showed up

[prisma idol]

Perhaps but luffy is an excellent fighter in his own right. I believe he would hold his own.

[ocean sigil]

Thats true

Also I think we sleep on Jimbei, my guy is a beast on his own

[prisma idol]

If we are being honest, Luffy G5, Kaido going Magma Dragon. And whatever tf Shanks has with his obs killing should beat the warlords

[prisma idol]

But he isnt close yonko tier...

[digital spear]

Croc would easily handle them with acoc sand and Moria with acoc zombies and Doffy with acoc strings

Mihawk not even needed

[ocean sigil]

He isn't but he's stronger than your average warlord I'd say

And Kuma should be dangerous too, big guy can redirect hits and whatever you throw at him

[prisma idol]

Law has the obvious problem of his fruit
Mihawk is WSS
Kuma has his paws which is very dangerous
Thats why I consider those 3 as the biggest issues

[ocean sigil]

Extract the damage of his comrade warlords and throw it to the yonkos

[ornate tartan]

her charm only works on fodders

[digital spear]

Once Shanks and Kaido goon to Boa its gg

[sly belfry]

kuma extrating 1% of a mihawk fan's pain would oneshot all the emperors

[ocean sigil]

Boa has ACoC, I wouldn't underestimate her

[prisma idol]

Does she?

I dont remember that

[ornate tartan]

she doesn’t

[ocean sigil]

Wait

[ornate tartan]

only has conquerors

not confirmed acoc

[ocean sigil]

Ih yeah only CoC

[prisma idol]

I know she has conquerors

[frail kindle]

You have conquerors

[ocean sigil]

I missed up the COs

[ornate tartan]

ngl he gets WAY too much hate😂

for a mostly unproblematic character

[digital spear]

Doffy and Boa get acoc if they lock in

[ornate tartan]

Mihawk is a chill guy

[prisma idol]

I knew not showering for a few weeks would work

[ocean sigil]

Exactly, if they have CoC, this fight will help them unlock ACoC

Like Luffy did, learning by getting beaten up

[prisma idol]

Kaido also just like speed blitzs a lot of them

Remember Doffy lost to Dressrosa luffy, who hit him fairly quickly. And a luffy that was stronger and had FS got speed blitz by base kaido

[ocean sigil]

Moria knows how to handle Kaido, he lost one time, won't happen a second time

[ornate tartan]

G4 was overwhelming Doffy immediately

[prisma idol]

That first hit was a Blitz iirc

[ornate tartan]

in the manga

[digital spear]

They will be like "I get it ... you can coat your attacks with conquerors haki right?" And Kaido says "Worororo! Only the very strongest can! Not a dead (wo)man standing!" And attack them but then they unlock acoc and beat his ass up

[ocean sigil]

This is exactly how Oda would write it

[glacial bear]

Alvida bagua incoming soon with her iron mace 🔥🔥🔥

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-alvida-alvida-one-piece-fat-smooth-gif-12441302767602608520

[digital spear]

AURA.

[final trench]

I wish moria had conquerors bro

Because he lowkey split the sky wit kaido 👀

https://tenor.com/view/gecko-moria-kaido-gif-21412055

Nvm it wasnt a split this still aura tho

[maiden charm]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-shut-the-fuck-up-gif-26696048

Jk gng 😭

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/view/essica-monthly-squirrel-12th-gif-1198384338235015635

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-prowler-goku-goku-mad-goku-dbs-dbs-gif-11120329515669448575

#fearthekozuki

[glacial bear]

He’ll tap into it during the final Saga, #Trust 🙏

https://tenor.com/view/gecko-moria-scissors-sword-scissor-sword-anything-goes-gif-19985124

[maiden charm]

Kozuki Oden
Absolutely

[unique lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/wee-spin-squirrel-turn-gif-16753740

[ocean sigil]

You're American you barely have the 11th

[graceful grove]

who fought Kaido and lived?

Moria clears that soup

[maiden charm]

Luffy duhh

[graceful grove]

no. luffy died

[maiden charm]

Who cleared moria in pre ts

[glacial bear]

Oden uses Two Swords style. When Moria splits the scissor blades apart, it looks like it could be Two swords too 🤔

[graceful grove]

shadows

[maiden charm]

That's a what not a who

[graceful grove]

they are of ppl

not each shadow is equal

[maiden charm]

Bruh what

U got it. Too early for ts

[graceful grove]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-smirk-dog-smirking-evil-gif-1174039551531775064

mission accomplished

break over

[sudden dock]

I really don't get it how shakky who is a hottie in her own right agree to be in an open marriage with Rayleigh

If that was me I would only have eyes for Shakky

[high wolf]

Gecko Moria is an Imu victimizer because she's made up of shadows

[ornate tartan]

https://x.com/pewpiece/status/2010345589561602091?s=46

Pew (@pewpiece)

OFFICIAL 🚨🚨🚨🚨

THE BREAK IS OFFICIALLY OVER ONEPIECE MANGA IS BACK

X · Jan 11, 2026, 1:38 PM

rejoice

[final trench]

Loki voyage or current story 🤔

Judging by the editors note it could be current story

[ornate tartan]

it’s gonna return to current by the end of the chapter

no voyage

[final trench]

Idk mannn

Well hopefully loki explains more while in the current story

[scarlet nacelle]

yea we prolly just gonna get a few pages talking bout what he did post harald killing
shanks gonna imprison him and we finally get back to current

[ornate tartan]

the flashback started with Hajrudin asking Loki what happened in the castle that day, once we got to that point the flashback is over

[final trench]

Because i wanna know

• where he went
• how’d he fall for lola
• how he got a special bounty
• his fight with shanks

[ornate tartan]

there’s gonna be some small reactions from elbaph maybe but we gonna get to the rest later in the arc

[olive sigil]

People forget the most important thing we need from this flashback

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-dance-dancing-cat-cat-dance-cat-party-disco-gif-6965183018436888405

[olive sigil]

5 chapters on how Loki met the masked humans that hang around him

[prisma yacht]

that's loki usopp and Hajrudin

[scarlet nacelle]

individual backstorys and names for each individual guy

[final trench]

I forgot about them ngl

Yea why do they worship loki

[sage temple]

Because without him they'd die

And Loki says he's a god

[final trench]

Yea but how they even discover bro

[sage temple]

I dunno he's in the center of the island so its kinda ez

[scarlet nacelle]

probably some sailors who got lost on the underworld of elbaf

[dapper tree]

Oda forgot about those guys

All died off screen if he's asked about them

[sage temple]

It's not like Loki is quiet either

Dude screams every time he's on the phone with Mosa

I wonder why Loki outta everyone gave Luffy goosebumps at his presence alone

[dapper tree]

Cause the other guys are bums

[sage temple]

Yeah must be the only explanation

Shanks n em

https://tenor.com/view/drake-computer-notebook-explaning-gif-21152267

[final trench]

Soul connection

[mighty roost]

wait who

i forgot

[final trench]

Those joe shmoes that fought the strawhats earlier on elbaf

One of had a deer skeleton on his face

[mighty roost]

right

[final trench]

But yea loki is the only other guy to call himself the sun god so i feel like he will be important to luffy

[dapper tree]

They died off screen

So don't think about en

[final trench]

Especially since the giants worship/respect (some of them) nika

[olive sigil]

I used to think Socrates was Mosa

But now I think Socrates is just one of those little masked dudes that hangs around Loki

[sage temple]

I'll alert the stations

[small ember]

Could be their chief or leader

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/choko_egg/status/2010316696079503816/photo/1

アルト (@choko_egg)

※フィガー○ンドファミリー。
後に訳あって6歳の女の子を引き取る事になり世話をする羽目になる双子

X · Jan 11, 2026, 11:43 AM

[hoary steppe]

What is that fire pfp

[small ember]

That is a good pfp

[warm falcon]

good mo()ning

[ornate tartan]

gm

[warm falcon]

its cute if u think that shamrocks was maybe happy in having a brother

[rose rune]

Thanks

[hoary steppe]

Fire

[rose rune]

I'm so happy you all love my pfp

[small ember]

Yeah don’t worry abo—

Nah that is a cool pfp but idk where its from

[muted hedge]

Road also called himself the sun god

[steel stirrup]

Her name is Azel

[rose rune]

But do you know where it's from?

[small ember]

What’s it even from

Emo Jesse from Team Rocket

[steel stirrup]

Pander Dragon

Panzer

[small ember]

Oooooohhhhh

Never played

[rose rune]

It's fun

[small ember]

I know it ties into nier and is secretly super bonkers

[rose rune]

Finally got a functioning saturn emulator

[distant vine]

Thigh plays games? Old man still got it

[rose rune]

I usually don't like jrpgs, but the battle system is sick

[muted hedge]

i love jrpgs

[small ember]

Junior Rocket Propelled Grenades

[digital spear]

thou are ass my boy 😭 😭

[final trench]

https://x.com/artekin0/status/2009982402987470951?s=46&t=zpbVKhUrP6eAABeC-WXVtQ

ARTekin (@ARTekin0)

My first and most recent digital art of Blackbeard (I even think it was my first time at all 😭)

X · Jan 10, 2026, 1:35 PM

[hoary steppe]

Peak

I miss one piece

[prisma yacht]

Soon

[muted hedge]

i've had a recent fall in with the Dragon Quest franchise, it's amazing

[wraith mantle]

https://x.com/DorozDACL/status/2010119288104071372?s=20

🇲🇽Doroz DACL 🍉 (@DorozDACL)

Blackbeard little sketch
#onepiece

X · Jan 10, 2026, 10:39 PM

[distant vine]

Dont like JRPGs

Old man dont got it...

[final trench]

Peak + niche reference

[wraith mantle]

ik rpg but whats jrpg

[muted hedge]

japanese rpg

[hoary steppe]

It actually japanese

[small ember]

Jamaican rpg

[hoary steppe]

Im thinking something else

[wraith mantle]

how did japan innovate the rpg system

[small ember]

More of a different style of it

[cold steppe]

It doesn't look realistic

[final trench]

If only

[cold steppe]

More anime oriented most of the time

[final trench]

LAWDAMERCY

[steel stirrup]

LMAO

[hoary steppe]

Mi bombo 🗣️ 🗣️

[steel stirrup]

Bombaclot

[final trench]

YOOO WADHUP 🗣️

BAD MON A TAKE BUN UP

[wraith mantle]

uh so they just extremely weebified it?

[steel stirrup]

Keep ya manners for badmon go pon ya head

[small ember]

Jakarta rpg

[hoary steppe]

Aint no way

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/op-indigo-one-piece-indigo-strong-world-film-strong-world-gif-13199499943088461956

[small ember]

Yeah you’re right it was Janissary rpg

[warm falcon]

guys when saturn was killed in the anime, the Imu's voice was totally masculine to me

[glacial bear]

Yeah I agree

Imu 100% a hooded robed man like emperor palpatine

[sly belfry]

she was using haki voice modifier

[muted hedge]

wonder if Imu will be revealed in 2026

[glacial bear]

And wizards use hooded robes 🤔

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-evil-who-gif-20449336

[muted hedge]

don't they usually have a hat

[final trench]

They called him a madman

[glacial bear]

The good ones i think

Well tbh there’s a variety of attires for people with magical powers

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-weatheria-haredas-haredas-one-piece-wizards-gif-12655642579497111100

[final trench]

Shiki saved kidd

[digital spear]

TRUE

[glacial bear]

No wonder they call Nami a sorceress.

Her mentor looks like a weather wizard

[glacial bear]

Oo, I’d love to see Shiki back in the story again

[final trench]

He’s gonna save kidd and tell him his plan

Trust in the new gen

[small ember]

Never really gravitated toward Shiki as a character idk why

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/sazu_00/status/1995078005228773778/photo/1

sz (@sazu_00)

🐆☝️

X · Nov 30, 2025, 10:30 AM

[pulsar path]

I found a ten page theory on how Zoro is a cat

[glacial bear]

One of my absolute personal favorite panels in the God Valley flashback. Seeing Whitebeard, Shiki The Golden Lion, Big Mom, & Kaido fighting together side by side

[coral vapor]

who do yall think is the best written villain in the series

[pulsar path]

Hmmm doflaminog is up there

[remote maple]

nothing beats doflamingo for me

maybe Imu can change that when we see more of Imu

Rob Lucci was also really good

[coral vapor]

I personally feel like BB will definitely be up there eventually

[remote maple]

or if you wanna say it was spandam

[coral vapor]

but yea Doffy has it for now

[fresh silo]

doffy was pure villian vibe though, i doubt imu cpuld change it

[glacial bear]

Buggy The Clown

[remote maple]

whoever you wanna say was the villain for water7/enies lobby

[coral vapor]

the WG

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-buggy-licking-knife-captain-buggy-clown-gif-19895916

[coral vapor]

I can't wait for BB to finally get his arc as the main villain tho

I'd rather him be the final villain than Imu tbh

[remote maple]

BB too weak to be the final boss, Imu's powers seem to be even stronger than kaido's

[small ember]

BB will hit as best written. I wanna see more of him as foil to Luffy

Both believe in big ideas and big dreams but execute it way differently

[final trench]

Close

He’s a big cat indeed

[final trench]

Alr mods which one of yall has the earliest birthday

Ill bless ya rq

[digital spear]

BB is too

[glacial bear]

YOOOOO ITS THAT TIGER 🐯

[final trench]

Indeed

Vivi wears a shirt that says “tiger” in a cover story

Law is called “tora-o”

Fujitora (wisteria tiger) defies his fellow marines and lets the slaves escape

Tiger = earth
Dragon = the “heavens”