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digital spear
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Does he just never go full zoan?

tough igloo
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yeah Oda pointed it out for 3 other characters in that arc (Luffy Law Kid ) , feel like he would’ve did it for Yamato too if she was actually awakened

wraith mantle
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Any early spoilers for 1171?

tranquil blade
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Hybrid Luffy would probably be Luffy but just white hair or something

fringe escarp
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And ofc full zoan/hybrid in general

dapper tree
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pretty sure the scarf has no meaning

fringe escarp
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Luffy has powers without transforming

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Not because it’s a “”human”” fruit but because mythical zoans just do that

tranquil blade
dapper tree
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oh yeah, doffy, kid, law

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they don't get scarfs

fringe escarp
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Imagine if luffy isn’t even awakened QueenKEKW QueenKEKW QueenKEKW QueenKEKW QueenKEKW QueenKEKW

dapper tree
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cuase they stink

tranquil blade
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Well those are paramecias

tough igloo
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even gave the impel down zoans a statement from Croc about them being awakened

dapper tree
tranquil blade
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but the idea is there that if a character is awakened and is actually fighting with their fruit, Oda will likely make it clear

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and he didnt do that with Yamato

warm fossil
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yamato talks in the big 26...

tough igloo
grand flower
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Oda is an insane person

fringe escarp
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Luffy full zoan would most likely have white skin, maybe even cartoonish accents and literal line art, as well as a complete outfit change

warm fossil
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shuron do you know what I hate

fringe escarp
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Gear 5 pretty much just gives him access to powers he would’ve had if he went into hybrid form

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The cartoony aesthetic would exist without awakening

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But since he never transformed he never obtained that

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That’s a huge reason why gear 5 is a massive buff

digital spear
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@fringe escarp but what if there really is no full zoan or hybrid for Luffy because Nika really was just a human, so theres no aesthetic change for Luffy until he awakens

fringe escarp
tranquil blade
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The real reason for all of this is probably just that Oda did not plan Luffy to be a mythical zoan from the beginning, this is an issue that naturally comes up when you retcon something

fringe escarp
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If he truly was a normal every day human then luffy would have zero forms

brittle basin
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Ideally, I would prefer no hybrid or full zoan for Luffy.

warm fossil
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why did Luffy have to be a zoan 💔

brittle basin
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he's fine as is

spice cairn
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Why did Luffy have to a pirate 💔

grand flower
fringe escarp
warm fossil
digital spear
fringe escarp
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The zoan shit is actively irrelevant

grand flower
warm fossil
thick mango
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I think luffy is pretty much at his peak its just maintaining it for longer now. And he might have some special move at the end where he gets power from others like thriller bark and happens in some other series

grand flower
warm fossil
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that's actually a synonym

grand flower
grand flower
warm fossil
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what I hate is zoans

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loath them

tranquil blade
spice cairn
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I like Logias.

fringe escarp
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The reason gear 5 was a gigantic buff is that he didn’t merely get the benefits of awakening a paramecia and zoan

But the jump isn’t like other zoans, going from hybrid to awakened hybrid

It’s going from BASE to awakened hybrid

digital spear
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Really what wouldve stopped Oda from explaining that the Gomu Gomu just becomes like that when awakened

warm fossil
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get your annoying transformation out of my pirate manga

tranquil blade
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and he eventually came to the conclusion that he should make the gomu gomu a zoan

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and not actually the gomu gomu

grand flower
warm fossil
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I think you should lose your pirate ID if you transform into anything

spice cairn
fringe escarp
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From a narrative perspective the only unique attribute to zoan awakenings is that they fuck with your personality

fringe escarp
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So I’m confident oda only made him a zoan so he could go through with that possession plot

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Otherwise no there’s literally no reason to make a series breaking retcon

spice cairn
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Possession Backstab piece

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Where everyone doesnt have a mind of their own and everyone hates eachother

warm fossil
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which sucks but alas

fringe escarp
digital spear
warm fossil
digital spear
spice cairn
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Bepo: Im too in this episode

fringe escarp
warm fossil
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you think gods eat devil fruits

spice cairn
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Nika is based on a deity

fringe escarp
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Gods in OP are a extremely debatable subject because they’re more often than not empowered humans

digital spear
warm fossil
fringe escarp
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Enel is a self proclaimed and called god

fringe escarp
warm fossil
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Nika

brittle basin
spice cairn
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Theres clearly a god

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Its called Nika

fringe escarp
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Nika is a devil fruit based on a legend

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That is by definition what it is

brittle basin
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Nika is a god insofar as ancient people believed he was real. But we have no actual proof of Nika's existence

fringe escarp
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Whether or not it exists is debatable

ornate tartan
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the only one confirmed is godking

fringe escarp
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And if it exists in that same form

tranquil blade
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Well if devil fruits are simply dreams made reality, then there may not be any god that preceded humanity, at most you could say humans "created" a god through devil fruits

fringe escarp
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The original nika was probably just a human

spice cairn
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The fruit probably was birth by the combine faith of the religion

fringe escarp
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Maybe a former slave but def a freedom fighter

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Across thousands of years the legend was formed around him

spice cairn
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Anyways I choose to believe it has existed considering hellspawn apparently exist now.

fringe escarp
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Doesn’t mean that legend is 100% factual

spice cairn
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So theres not really a suspension of belief to not assume Nika wasnt a real deity either.

fringe escarp
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Legends are inherently based in the desire to explain away or deify human or natural actions

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If 4000 years from now the legend of idk Zoro were to exist, it would most likely deify him beyond his actual state

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“Oh he was the KING OF HELL”

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“A DEMON AMONG HIS PEERS WITH THE ABILITY TO STARE PEOPLE DOWN AND BREAK THEIR SPIRIT”

brittle basin
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ah. now that I think about it. Zoro seeing the Grim Reaper was the closest deity we've seen. but since it's all a mink meth hallucination, it can't be trusted

warm fossil
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all true in the story right now

fringe escarp
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“HE EVEN CONQUERED DEATH HIMSELF”

fringe escarp
tranquil blade
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Zoro comes back as a zoan in a thousand years and devil fruit possession becomes real

spice cairn
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Ala gag.

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So its not really worth taking seriously

fringe escarp
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None of it is literally true it’s just descriptive shit to hype him up

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But he was ultimately a human

brittle basin
spice cairn
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Listen, all ill contribute is that if literal demons can exist now, theres not really a reason as to why a god like Nika couldn't

digital spear
warm fossil
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brother we all know this the point is that if Nika was just a human what would a gum gum fruit have to do with them

spice cairn
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And if it was a normal person, it was the first inhibitor of the fruit that said god past down

fringe escarp
warm fossil
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I mean there's a million fruits that allow that

spice cairn
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Ope Ope human?

warm fossil
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like what about bonneys fruit

fringe escarp
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There’s a million fruits that share traits with each other

warm fossil
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that allows you to do literally anything

fringe escarp
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I’d be more convinced that was og nikas fruit if fruits existed back then

warm fossil
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her fruit is the most busted thing on earth

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but that's besides the point

fast pagoda
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Bonneys fruit isnt that busted

fringe escarp
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My point is that exaggerated descriptors is the basis of religion

fast pagoda
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Its very powerful but people exaggerate it

grand flower
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She can basically shape shift

spice cairn
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Because it was properly written compared to Luffy getting it.

fringe escarp
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A fruit of a deity existing doesn’t mean it actually was literally like that

warm fossil
spice cairn
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But thats a semi hot take

pseudo gulch
spice cairn
strong wadi
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It is funny that bonney's fruit is what some people were thinking luffy's was after that gorosei comment

spice cairn
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Theres just very big limitations given its user is a 12 year old

warm fossil
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one could imagine they're so beautiful they make people turn to stone, and that's it you got boas fruit. could imagine youre so strong you can break the air itself and wow you got wbs fruit, etc

tranquil blade
warm fossil
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it's as busted as it gets

pseudo gulch
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"Show me a future where I'm immortal and I can oneshot everyone" KingStare

digital spear
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Bonney if she locked the fuck in

tranquil blade
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Like her fruit is written with the purpose of giving her that power, Luffy's fruit initially did not have that and Oda basically had to retcon Luffy's fruit to make it work

fast pagoda
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Bonney's Nika form obviously isn't as strong as Gear 5 Luffy

warm fossil
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bonney literally just used luffys awakened ass legendary fruit like nothing lol

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why not

glacial bear
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Wait Ginny got injected with the devil fruit extract no?

warm fossil
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other than her being 12

fast pagoda
warm fossil
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and not having haki

fringe escarp
glacial bear
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So would that mean both Ginny and Bonney have the same devil fruit?

fast pagoda
fringe escarp
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The nika form is honestly limiting LOL

fast pagoda
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We saw her use armament

spice cairn
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Bonney has Haki

craggy vapor
warm fossil
glacial bear
fast pagoda
warm fossil
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luffys with bonneys fruit using the Nika mode would be exactly as strong as current Luffy

pseudo gulch
tranquil blade
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The main thing that holds her back is just not having haki on the level of Luffy

warm fossil
spice cairn
warm fossil
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because it's busted

spice cairn
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So theres stamina issues

craggy vapor
tranquil blade
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but it's a powerful fruit regardless

spice cairn
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I think its fine given the context on who has it.

warm fossil
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powerful is the understatement of the century

spice cairn
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Imagine if Teech had it.

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Itll be over

fast pagoda
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Bonney's fruit is very powerful but its broken mostly because of its versatility

tranquil blade
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Yes yes I know it's one of the strongest fruits out there

fast pagoda
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However she's extremely powerful for a 12 year old

fringe escarp
warm fossil
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given to anyone who isn't 12 it'd be either completely unbeatable or you'd know oda was holding the user back with the plot

spice cairn
fringe escarp
warm fossil
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it's the best fruit in the story

fast pagoda
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She's beating Vice Admirals at 12

spice cairn
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So its literally multiple fruits in one

pseudo gulch
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Oda really gave us the retcon of the century with Bonney's fruit

fringe escarp
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Luffy is just the gum gum fruit with a new coat of paint QueenKEKW QueenKEKW QueenKEKW QueenKEKW QueenKEKW QueenKEKW

pseudo gulch
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No one does it like him

fast pagoda
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Bonney can probably copy any fruit which is what makes it crazy

fringe escarp
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Nika fruit didn’t do shit QueenKEKW QueenKEKW QueenKEKW QueenKEKW QueenKEKW QueenKEKW

spice cairn
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She can also turn people into babies by just shooting them with the fruit attached btw

tranquil blade
warm fossil
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not even theoretically it is just infinite fruits in one

fast pagoda
warm fossil
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and more

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you can do shit no fruit does

fast pagoda
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Meaning she has better haki than vice admirals

fringe escarp
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“GIVE ME A IMUISH FUTURE”

warm fossil
fringe escarp
fringe escarp
fast pagoda
fringe escarp
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Not all fruit powers can be negated

craggy vapor
fringe escarp
warm fossil
fringe escarp
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Most likely because he’s ageless

spice cairn
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She literally couldn't.

fringe escarp
fast pagoda
fringe escarp
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Some powers just can’t

warm fossil
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when you use an ability on someone, it's not a question of who has the better haki, it's a question of whether or not their haki is good enough to stop the ability

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it's not a battle of wills lol

craggy vapor
spice cairn
warm fossil
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law with a stronger haki than kaido would still not be able to teleport him around

fast pagoda
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If someone has strong enough haki they can overcome paramecia abilities, as shown with Kaido and Linlin being immune to ROOM and Law overcoming the disease from Doc Q

tranquil blade
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Haki also doesnt really negate fruits unless the haki user has much more powerful haki than the fruit user, if their haki is relative the fruit likely wont get negated

stiff pulsar
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is there no manga this week?

spice cairn
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Mo.

spice cairn
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No

warm fossil
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it's not a question of who has the stronger haki

stiff pulsar
warm fossil
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it's simply does the person youre using the ability on has a good enough haki to stop the ability. your own haki does not matter

spice cairn
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Yeah again its sort of like stopping a virus with your antibody

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If that makes sense

fringe escarp
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Oda L unfortunately

craggy vapor
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I wonder if Big Mom turns to her God Valley self of Bonney makes her younger

fast pagoda
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I mean Bonney can make anyone any age

strong wadi
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It'll be funny when bb's yami yami does nothing to imu because imu's haki level is too high

fast pagoda
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So it just depends on what Bonney chooses

spice cairn
strong wadi
fast pagoda
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I do hope Oda explains the Distortion Future stuff more in depth soon

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Though it mostly just comes from imagination, but I think traveling the world and seeing all the crazy possibilities will always keep her imagination alive

unique lagoon
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more proof that skypiea was a prototype for the big story

ocean sigil
unique lagoon
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now you can use stuff there to predict whats happening next

fast pagoda
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I think there are definitely a lot of similarities between Imu and Enel that likely arent coincidence, but Skypiea is trying to tell its own story

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Lots of other arcs echo the greater story of One Piece and the final saga

unique lagoon
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funniest one is guy calling himself god
Revives himself with a DF by restarting his heart
meanwhile dead luffy vs kaido

strong junco
strong wadi
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It's giving "The Ark Maxim is a prototype/weaker recreation of Uranus"

unique lagoon
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sure ill take that theory

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enel def discovered something big in whatever birkan city he was in

ocean sigil
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Imus invincibility made him Kami too

strong junco
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Excuse me trash, where is Mary geoise?

unique lagoon
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i do wonder if oda will ever go back to enels city of origin

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im going all in on urogue being the connection

fast pagoda
digital spear
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the finale will be Luffy punching the big bad with the moon (golden ball) around his fist into the sun (golden bell) creating a sound and the dawn of the world

fast pagoda
unique lagoon
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the wings fit thats for sure

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but was he there when enel killed everyone

ocean sigil
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One Piece: Kapitel 279, Seite 16
Imus face when Luffy gets hit by his strongest attack and defends it with guts

rose rune
# ocean sigil

I still find it silly when they write kami instead of god

ocean sigil
rose rune
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imagine if they replaced cute with kawaii

ocean sigil
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One Piece: Kapitel 279, Seite 18

The good old days with the white line

unique lagoon
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urogue is called the mad monk
but i dont remember anything showing that he is "mad"

fast pagoda
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Mad as in like "crazy" bc he's always smiling

graceful belfry
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Happy monk

rose rune
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or maybe madly in love

fast pagoda
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His crew is called the fallen monk pirates as well

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Urouge is most likely this guy:

rose rune
unique lagoon
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well yeah that theory still going strong

ocean sigil
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I love scenes like this

graceful belfry
unique lagoon
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urogue went mad seeing his city gets destroyed not being able to protect it

strong junco
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I have some news for yall. The hero saturn died while battling against the horrible pirate Monkey D. Luffy, the same pirate that killed Vegapunk. The other gorosek were there but couldnt do anjthing to save Saint Saturn, rest in peace, Saturn.

strong junco
grand flower
# rose rune

“Climbing” and “love making”

He lives in Elbaph

ocean sigil
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One Piece: Kapitel 268, Seite 18

Maybe I really should reread it all again..

rose rune
unique lagoon
strong junco
fast pagoda
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Gaban vs Urouge body count battle

unique lagoon
spice cairn
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Pagaya is coming back btw

ocean sigil
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One Piece: Kapitel 267, Seite 18
This is just one of the best pages.. I love it so much

fast pagoda
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Who do yall think got the bigger body count

unique lagoon
rose rune
tropic novaBOT
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NO ROLEPLAYING

spice cairn
strong junco
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Bruh

ocean sigil
rose rune
unique lagoon
ocean sigil
# unique lagoon

I hope we get explained who Kaien is and what he has done to name the years

unique lagoon
ocean sigil
# unique lagoon

Yeah I'm doing the reread.. should I continue where I left of my last review? Around chapter 500. Or start new

ocean sigil
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Robin says the year of Kaien whole reading the poneglyphe there

unique lagoon
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i might have saved that robin translation in alabasta

ocean sigil
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One Piece: Kapitel 203, Seite 5

ocean sigil
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Year of Heaven

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I could swear she says Kaien here too

rose rune
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"wtf nico"

unique lagoon
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so theres year of heaven
then theres age of kaien

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people argue that robin was lying to croc here also

ocean sigil
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Possible

unique lagoon
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but does that matter if the lie she used was just info from real translations

ocean sigil
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But it didnt matter to Croc, since

unique lagoon
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from actual history i mean

ocean sigil
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He never trusted anyone

rose rune
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from the start

strong wadi
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Crocodile has probably had his trust broken in the past 😢

ocean sigil
unique lagoon
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this one got to be actual history she learned somewhere

ocean sigil
rose rune
dense haven
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mein fraulein

rose rune
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or would you prefer "in the first place"

ocean sigil
ocean sigil
ocean sigil
unique lagoon
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i dont even remember that noland log book date thing

rose rune
ocean sigil
unique lagoon
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so what kind of calendar does current time use?

ocean sigil
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Probably the same

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Because of this

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But it doesnt have to be

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It would mean we're in the year 1504 of Kaien

rose rune
ocean sigil
unique lagoon
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looks like Gi Joe animation

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then again they all looked similar back then

ocean sigil
rose rune
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I've never watched it myself. only seen the intro, and the commercial I mentioned

ocean sigil
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I never watched it either

past nebula
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neigh

ocean sigil
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Dey

rose rune
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the other one made me dizzy, so I deleted it

ocean sigil
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It had 65 episodes

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Not bad

distant vine
ocean sigil
ocean sigil
blazing depot
dense haven
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yall think the first chapter of 2026 will be good?

rose rune
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it's been so long, I've forgotten what arc we're at

ocean sigil
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One Piece: Kapitel 202, Seite 15

Maybe I should reread alabasta too.. so many epic scenes

blazing depot
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More Loki suffering

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Everyone gonna hate him for killing Harald

olive sigil
ocean sigil
graceful grove
olive sigil
unique lagoon
wraith ingot
olive sigil
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Since there’s only been 12 rulers

ocean sigil
olive sigil
unique lagoon
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wait no alabasta has change dynasty multiple times

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4k years wont fit

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if its the same family

olive sigil
graceful grove
unique lagoon
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ye

olive sigil
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You think there’s more before?

unique lagoon
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so 800-1k years

tranquil blade
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Well probably

ocean sigil
tranquil blade
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Family's change in kingdoms that old a lot

wraith ingot
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Hope oda shows us what’s happening in the outside world while luffy is in elbaf in this next chapter

tranquil blade
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It's not usually just one family over the entirety of a nations history, especially if it's thousands of years old

ocean sigil
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Thats actually one of the things im the most interested in right now, how will the world react after VPs message

olive sigil
wraith ingot
unique lagoon
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so kahira is just another nation alabasta went to war with

ocean sigil
tranquil blade
ocean sigil
wraith ingot
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Probably cause more revolts, just like when the revolutionaries went into marie jois

olive sigil
tranquil blade
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and if Cobra is only the 12th head of the family it would be impossible for them to be the only family to ever rule Alabasta

wraith ingot
olive sigil
olive sigil
wraith ingot
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Aoikiji was kinda goated tho. Why join BB 😭

small ember
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I would like to see more of Aokiji's motives and that conversation with BB he had

unique lagoon
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remember when akainu had the sword tattoo on his injured arm

olive sigil
small ember
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I wonder how this ties in to pursuing one's own justice

ocean sigil
small ember
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Or is this just a step for Aokiji towards something else

small ember
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Wonder if Admirals have to join at some point

unique lagoon
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kuzan scarring that whole area
kinda funny

olive sigil
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After this flashback I wonder if aokiji knows that teach is the son of rocks and he heard about god valley and that’s why he joined

small ember
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Possibly

wraith ingot
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Guys if zoro could handle his own against nusjuro doesn’t that mean mihawk could also defeat one or two of the gorosei

unique lagoon
small ember
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Also true

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Garp? Maybe??

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Idk

wraith ingot
ocean sigil
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One Piece: Kapitel 1124, Seite 6

ocean sigil
wraith ingot
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I was kinda chill with kizaru until he killed VP

olive sigil
ocean sigil
wraith ingot
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I wanna see their new moves in elbaf. They still haven’t fought anyone seriously yet

unique lagoon
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i like how kuma is here next to teech

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that mf is going to be trouble - kuma

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thats all assuming kuma and teech mom taked and told him the truth

ocean sigil
unique lagoon
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also L from deathnote
kinda

ocean sigil
tranquil blade
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I mean whatever Zoro has done so far you can assume Mihawk can do it better until they actually fight

wraith ingot
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Mihawk is probably my fav warlord

rose rune
ocean sigil
remote maple
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mihawk only loves his wine

wraith ingot
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Isn’t Moria dead anyways

remote maple
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🍷

ocean sigil
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We dont know where he is tho

dense haven
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its kozuki moria to you

ocean sigil
rose rune
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no wonder he travels alone

remote maple
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that's why he's so isolated

ocean sigil
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Never forget, I was the first to say it

blazing mantle
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torn osprey
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Funniest theory rn is that ragnir conduct so much lightning because the squirrel is so fuzzy

sage temple
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Thats sick

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I can't wait to see some named attacks from Loki

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Crazy that Ragnir has been dormant for years and is still able to do smth like that

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I sometimes forget that it is

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Kinda crazy that that seems to be the main reveal of the Yamato cover story too which…

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lol

tranquil blade
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Well tbf it does feel a little odd because besides Moria being in Wano that one time there was no direct connection between him and the Kozuki from what I know

sage temple
tranquil blade
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and I dont really know what Oda plans to do with him being a Kozuki yet

olive sigil
olive sigil
trim lily
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it’d be kind of funny if moria being a kozuki just never comes up again

sage temple
tranquil blade
rose rune
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loki fan art eh?
oh look at the time, I need to sleep

olive sigil
olive sigil
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It’s 75% Socrates, 20% vortex 5% other people

rose rune
olive sigil
sage temple
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What's the joke

unique lagoon
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i was mainly making fun of toei making animal shaped haki

olive sigil
sage temple
sage temple
unique lagoon
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shanks haki is so strong he made kidd hallucinate seeing a griffon made of pure energy

sage temple
sage temple
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Is his sword named griffon?

unique lagoon
sage temple
unique lagoon
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thats the only reasonable thing i can think of

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as if shanks aint hype enough already
thats why i think it was over the top
and ill die on this hill

rose rune
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it's more of a "HA! I WAS RIGHT!! LOKI ON TOP"

sage temple
warm sierra
sage temple
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It's more of a "Wow Oda's golden boy has been dethroned G5Laugh "

sage temple
rose rune
sage temple
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The shock is what's so funny to me

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Loki being on par with Shanks is more confusing than funny

rose rune
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I can already see all the toadgashi memes and I hate it

sage temple
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Kidd*

sage temple
rose rune
sage temple
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Dude can make memes out of anything

unique lagoon
#

the funny part is oda has build up hype up buff up shanks all these years
then throws a new character in this arc
and say this guy is powerful than shanks
cant wait for the dumpster fire that will cause

rose rune
#

he's like that local newspaper artist that makes political satire, but for one piece

sage temple
#

A meme like this would be hilarious where Oda is the mother and Shanks is the hurt kid crying about being weaker than Loki

sage temple
unique lagoon
#

did oda give shanks a sob story yet?

olive sigil
rose rune
sage temple
#

Good enough ig

unique lagoon
#

yeah but he dint experience that by that he dont remember

#

shanks himself was not sad
the baby was jolly most of the time

sage temple
#

Yeah he had no real interaction with anything

#

Nobody was trying to even kill him either

#

They were all trying to protect him lmao

distant vine
sage temple
#

It was just about who got him and who didn't

rose rune
#

you can barely tell or remember what's going on at that age

olive sigil
unique lagoon
#

atm the sad moments are herald dying
and roger moment where he cried
i cant even tell how sad shanks was breaking off with buggy

#

now im still thinking where oda will squeeze in more sob stories

unique lagoon
#

prob in current time not the past

rose rune
#

he misses his boy buggy

unique lagoon
#

dont worry they will meet again in laughtale

ruby moat
#

Buggy x Shanks gay couple is actually so fire

rose rune
#

they were meant to be, but destiny tore them apart

ruby moat
#

The “child of fate” is really a victim of fate…

rose rune
#

anyways, I told chat I was going to bed ages ago. I really should sleep

unique lagoon
#

buggy was right about he was suppose to be the next roger

#

but roger had other plans

keen quiver
#

Shanks is the ace of his generation

unique lagoon
#

mf gave him some list of objectives

wraith ingot
#

Could luffy beat gaban rn?

olive sigil
ruby moat
#

Uhhh not if there’s no kid

olive sigil
#

Would be such a good manga

ruby moat
#

Tbf there hasn’t been for a while

olive sigil
fast pagoda
#

Question

#

Do yall think Issho will go to SWORD, the Revolutionary Army, or something else?

olive sigil
thick mango
#

i could see sengoku saving law

trim lily
#

would they allow him to though

#

i still don’t fully get how sword membership works

tranquil blade
#

Do all of the marines even know sword exists

#

I know the admirals do at least

olive sigil
#

Save him from his sad existence

tranquil blade
fast pagoda
#

I wonder how Koby and them even found about SWORD

#

Smoker was aware of them

tranquil blade
#

Garp probably told him about it

#

or that's how I would guess he found out

ruby moat
final trench
vital heart
#

Loha!

celest stream
# ruby moat

Oda himself probably forgets/misses on that stuff

fast pagoda
#

Its in character for Kuzan to explain it weirdly though lol

royal orchid
#

just saw the news

placid rover
ruby cape
frail kindle
dense haven
scenic dirge
#

Kong lol

#

2026 is the year of Kong

placid rover
scenic dirge
#

Hype

hazy echo
sage temple
# ruby cape

Don't post this or Bartsky will eviscerate you with his laser vision

digital spear
#

would be based

spice cairn
#

Es fin

olive sigil
#

If you want to make a joke about Usopp being kicked by a little girl it has to be Tama

spice cairn
#

Just make it a meme

#

Every character who has ever used a kick in a template

sage temple
#

Poor Ussop the most stagnant character in op

formal wagon
#

i just saw a top 10 with 5 honorable mentions and i nearly died from rage

thick mango
#

if sanjuan wolf fights someone and they each get one of the giant swords will chekov be happy

dense haven
#

people think he gonna fight franky G5Laugh

thick mango
#

of course that would make sanjuan wolf a swordsman

#

franky or robin seem like the two options

#

its not gonna be loki probably cause hes got ragnir

dense haven
#

franky cant even reach his knees

thick mango
#

mechs with giants swords is a thing tho

dense haven
#

yes

digital spear
#

acting like sizes matter

dense haven
#

what else is there for franky

thick mango
#

reuiniting with senor pink

spice cairn
#

Getting lobomized

#

Oh wait

dense haven
#

he doesnt even have haki lulw

spice cairn
digital spear
#

I mean if you think Franky is too weak to fight anyone theres no point anyway

spice cairn
#

I do like Franky but he has similar issues as Chopper has

#

Where his peak was so good and early he fails to every reach it ever again

#

So you just feel bad for him gradually as time goes on

#

This server feels so weird because it sort of opened my eyes to how indifferent feel about him here generally

thick mango
#

hes above average sh for me

royal orchid
#

wranky needs more cool moments 🥺

spice cairn
#

Me?

#

If I feel indifferent to Franky?

digital spear
#

Or the people

spice cairn
#

I mean I really loved him a lot on first read

digital spear
#

What is the subject

spice cairn
#

Just Franky.

royal orchid
spice cairn
#

How I felt that he peaked too early and hasn't really been able to live up to that sort of high since imo

digital spear
#

A word is missing

spice cairn
#

I always felt he was an extremely popular SH on first read

digital spear
#

Oh so you mean the people here

haughty saddle
#

People love Franky dude

#

What

dapper tree
#

Franky needs not haki

haughty saddle
#

He’s probably the Strawhat people have the most positive things to say about by volume

dapper tree
#

Only more power

tranquil blade
haughty saddle
#

The only people shitting on Franky are dorks

dapper tree
#

That too

haughty saddle
#

And those people shit on everyone and everything because they’re miserable illiterate dogs

spice cairn
haughty saddle
#

So who cares what they think anyway

dapper tree
#

Yes

tranquil blade
haughty saddle
#

No Marx. You’re safe.

#

I’ve seen you hold positive opinions on things before

dapper tree
tranquil blade
haughty saddle
#

You MAY have a singular bad opinion but QueenKEKW

spice cairn
#

I mean im just genuinely just probably just underestimating Franky's fandom quite a bit

tranquil blade
dapper tree
#

Yes

spice cairn
digital spear
dapper tree
#

What thing is that

tranquil blade
#

Yamato and Zoro are low yonko level

digital spear
#

Lets just agree Franky fights Sanjuan Wolf or another bb member and the sizes dont matter

spice cairn
#

I believe Yamato and Zoro should be considered Yonkos even at a lower level

haughty saddle
#

Spice is an irony coated misanthrope QueenKEKW

spice cairn
#

Spice isn't a real person

haughty saddle
#

I love him. That’s pookie.

#

But like

#

When has spice ever had a genuine opinion on anything ever lol

spice cairn
wraith mantle
#

spice only ragebaits because he has no original or genuinge opinions

spice cairn
#

I didnt want to sound negative, I just think Im moreso on a opinion that Franky sort of decreased in intrigue for me as time went by.

haughty saddle
digital spear
spice cairn
#

I really loved him in Pre-SH significantly and even PH.

#

Idk what happened

haughty saddle
#

He was incredible in Dressrosa and Onigashima IMO

digital spear
haughty saddle
#

Like dude

spice cairn
#

Well its hard to really not like Wano Franky

tranquil blade
dapper tree
spice cairn
#

But like, I think I liked the stuff with Brook going on a bit more against Black Maria and such

dapper tree
spice cairn
#

Yknow I think I like Brook a lot more nowadays

tranquil blade
spice cairn
#

I think its just me switching Franky intrigue with Brook

dapper tree
digital spear
dapper tree
#

He'll see Sanji do it then understand

spice cairn
digital spear
tranquil blade
#

Sanji will get ACoC this arc but Zoro will learn how to use ACoC better and they'll still end up equals

spice cairn
#

Sanji isnt getting Acoc. PoL is the meta for Sanji

dapper tree
#

Sanji will be better at it at first

#

Sanji gets both

sage temple
digital spear
#

I still kinda want Kuzan and Saul to swoop in Elbaf and try taking Robin

dapper tree
#

Sanji has brain

spice cairn
#

Gaban is going to tell him something about not having coc doesn't matter when love is all you need, blah blah blah its a hurricane

dapper tree
#

Zoro has neg IQ

tranquil blade
#

Sanji will be better at it and still only equal to Zoro? He's cooked

strong wadi
sage temple
#

The bait is lowk annoying

dapper tree
spice cairn
#

Zoro is battle smart

dapper tree
#

Do it adam

strong wadi
#

Tell me Zoro is dumb again

dapper tree
spice cairn
dapper tree
#

It was all down hill after that

#

He used all his brain power for that

haughty saddle
#

The entire purpose of the Dressrosa trip from an in-narrative perspective was to destroy the SMILE Factory. Beating Doflamingo and freeing Dressrosa was NOT the plan. The only mission was destroying the plant, and as Law admitted later, he they didnt even have to make it out alive, as Kaido would probably end up killing Doflamingo for the fuck-up anyway. Luffy beating Doffy was completely unplanned. Luffy FIGHTING Doffy even, was unplanned. The ENTIRE crux of Law’s plan and mission was that factory.

But our boy Luffy?? You know what he does with plans. There’s some other shit that needs to be taken care of. But god damn, the factory is still THE singular objective of the alliance at this point. And who does Luffy look to to take care of this mission on their entire lonesome?

Cutty Fucking Flam. Iron Man Franky. He looks at his dawg and asks him straight up. “Can you handle the singular objective of the entire mission for us” “Duh. I got you, Captain”.

Do not talk down Dressrosa Franky.

dapper tree
#

Either that or Mihawk did a lobotomy

sage temple
#

Or he's still just smart

digital spear
tranquil blade
#

He did

#

That's how he lost his eye

spice cairn
#

Yeah I think Franky is probably still cool.

dapper tree
sage temple
#

Also can't wait for Loki to kill one of the HKs again

spice cairn
#

But I think I like the Pre TS flavor a bit.

dapper tree
sage temple
#

These people are lowk light work since they don't have ACoC

spice cairn
#

Maybe im an old fart, what do I know

haughty saddle
#

I liked his proportions more pre timeskip, but that’s really it

dapper tree
tranquil blade
#

I like Franky's pre ts design more

spice cairn
dapper tree
#

None of the HKs right now are good

sage temple
tranquil blade
#

but he's relatively the same guy otherwise

spice cairn
#

But thinking back I think his TS design is more consistently better

dapper tree
#

Sommers is a chump

sage temple
#

I guess bro

dapper tree
#

He really is

sage temple
#

I'm aware

#

Wait no say it again so I understand

#

I wasn't reading your last message

dapper tree
#

Sanji and Zoro negs Sommers and Killingham

#

now dorry and broggy on the other hand

#

That's a fight

tranquil blade
haughty saddle
#

After like, Dressrosa, his actual fits and hair start to look a lot better IMO

dapper tree
#

Jack mogs Sommers

haughty saddle
#

The less screen time he has the better his fits got. Ain’t that a shame 😭

sage temple
#

Loki and Luffy vs Imu will be so good

dapper tree
sage temple
#

We haven't even seen any named attacks from Loki so this is barely anything of what he has to offer

#

So peak

#

I wanna see him fight soon

dapper tree
#

Against jobbers

vernal ravine
#

unless chopper do magic

sage temple
#

But we'll see him fight for once which is what I'm hoping for

dapper tree
#

He'll still neg the knights

sage temple
#

And he's super capable in his DF form

#

Dude palmed a 144 year old ancient giant

#

😭

dapper tree
#

I mean, the buffs apply in his regular form

#

So he could do that either way

digital spear
sage temple
dapper tree
#

If the reason he needed the fruit was for base boosted stats. His stats are base boosted no matter what form he has

tranquil blade
digital spear
#

Guys are there really like 3 different ways how Imu takes control of someone

dapper tree
#

Yeah

sacred sail
dapper tree
#

Zou was a bit over a month

#

Cause wano was a whole month

digital spear
tranquil blade
#

I mean I figure everyone in the strawhats is probably within the top 3 or 4 on the planet at their respective roles

dapper tree
#

Usopp is top 1 liar

tranquil blade
#

Like Nami is probably a top 3 navigator, Usopp is only really behind Augur and his dad, Chopper might only be behind 1 or 2 doctors as well

sacred sail
spice cairn
#

Doc Q is better than Chopper atp

#

He needs to defend his title

tranquil blade
#

Doc Q is a cheater

spice cairn
#

Thats slanderous

fallen meteor
#

he is totally cheating

spice cairn
#

How can we accuse him of cheating

fallen meteor
#

he has df magic

spice cairn
#

Hes a 60+ rotting man

tranquil blade
#

Performance enhancing fruit

spice cairn
#

He clearly knows how to make these diseases at least on a very technical level

tranquil blade
#

I'm sure he was but not as good as Chopper

fallen meteor
#

doctor scaling

spice cairn
fallen meteor
digital spear
fallen meteor
tranquil blade
#

Oh yeah Franky might be the literal best shipwright around, generally the crew is pretty stacked

fallen meteor
#

is Brook the best uhh musician

spice cairn
#

Get ready for awakened Plague GOD Doc Q

tranquil blade
#

Well he is famous

digital spear
tranquil blade
#

Brook has a whole persona with his music now

digital spear
spice cairn
#

Brook is an entire ass celebrity

tranquil blade
spice cairn
#

These thumbnails are so goofy

#

Thats not even his hand

#

They literally just grabbed Luffy's hand and gave it to him

digital spear
#

They couldve literally just used a pic where Doc Q holds an apple and drawn it like a df

quartz terrace
#

it is ai generate

digital spear
#

No

spice cairn
#

Nah

#

Just edit schizo kino

digital spear
#

You can tell this was made with soul

quartz terrace
#

what software do youtuber use to eidt thumbnails

fallen meteor
spice cairn
olive sigil
thick mango
#

gimp is a good middle ground between pdn and photoshop

olive sigil
fallen meteor
#

@chatgpt generate me an anti-eustass kid thumbnail filled with agenda and slander

thick mango
#

gnu image manipulation program

#

its free/open source photoshop

fallen meteor
hazy echo
#

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fallen meteor
sage temple
#

Davy lowk has the most powerful influence oat

fallen meteor
olive sigil
formal wagon
#

i cant tell what that is

#

its against tos to slander goats

blazing depot
distant vine
thick mango
#

most of what i make is pixel or placeholder art anyway

blazing depot
#

This reminds me for one of my classes I have to a project on a fandom phenomenon. I might just do it on Agenda Piece

#

I cannot wait to introduce my class to haki knots

sweet anvil
#

Explain the mihawk shanks debate to them 🙏

olive sigil
#

I did a project on poetry and chose a quote from one piece

#

I don’t think the teacher realized it came from a manga

sweet anvil
olive sigil
# sweet anvil

It’s the best thing that has happened involving dragon and it’s not even him saying it

spice cairn
wraith mantle
#

Yall ready for chapter week?

remote maple
#

you mean college week

scenic dirge
wraith mantle
#

Nigga goes to college

remote maple
#

to get more knowledge

ivory sonnet
#

Hahah I ain't banned Hapoy news☺️☺️☺️

wraith mantle
scenic dirge
scenic dirge
#

Why is it spoiler tagged wtf

#

Fuck what’s the command

#

!spoilertag

tropic novaBOT
#

How to properly spoiler tag:

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scenic dirge
#

There

spice cairn
#

I was going to spoil this as an example

#

But yeah thanks Bot

ivory sonnet
spice cairn
#

There we go

#

You graduated

#

🎊

ivory sonnet
#

||Yes!!!!||

olive sigil
olive sigil
formal wagon
#

😂 😂

fallen meteor
ornate tartan
#

kid>law

thick mango
#

If kid died to shanks he's above law imo

#

That's the kind of arc I can appreciate

#

Reckless fighter who keeps getting in trouble never changes and finally encounters something he can't bounce back from. That's a complete story arc

scenic dirge
#

Thing is, Kid is the type of character that you could literally just randomly reintroduce at any point in the arc and it’d probably feel natural lol. I don’t think the expectations for where and how he fits into the remaining story really matters anymore

thick mango
#

If he does come back I want significant changes. He needs a new goal or new approach or new something. I'll hate it if he's just pretty much the same as before

formal wagon
#

I feel the opposite, it will suck if he goes full moria.

timber glacier
#

Ya getting 1 shot by shanks and not ben Beckman will change his mindset

thick mango
#

I think it's important for things to matter. And causing character changes is one way the fight can matter

#

I don't want the fight to have been hollow and relatively meaningless opportunity for shanks glaze and little more than that

scenic dirge
#

Idk, I want him to reflect but I also think his tenacity and ambition even tho he constantly loses is kind of what makes him who he is. I do think there will be some genuine reflection tho, especially if any of his crew actually died

thick mango
#

I guess it's also a complete story arc for him to continue on despite his cause having become hopeless but I'm not sure how that concludes

fallen meteor
#

kid suffers a major setback
goes on the background while getting stronger
comes back stronger

#

easy writing

thick mango
#

But the thing is what can the end of that be

#

Kid doesn't especially care about wg

fallen meteor
#

whatever oda has in mind

timber glacier
#

Well kid only sort of powerup he needs is haki

thick mango
#

He wants kop, and he can't get it

formal wagon
#

Luffy doesn't especially care about the wg

thick mango
#

But luffy can get kop

formal wagon
#

Kid can still try

thick mango
#

Sure but what does that amount to? Fighting luffy and losing? Like what conclusion comes out of that?

fallen meteor
#

we know he probably wont get it but if he gets stronger nothing wrong with him trying again

#

or else oda just stops writing it all lol

#

no more pirates because in the end everybody loses to luffy

thick mango
#

He just keeps trying and failing into the epilogue?

formal wagon
fallen meteor
#

he probably just loses in a way that isnt as flashy as his shanks one

#

he can be another big pirate on the world, just not kop

#

thats basically what everyone else will do too

thick mango
fallen meteor
#

and he can still find something to focus on

formal wagon
#

I think eustass is an archetypal rival character who will keep trying even if he loses

#

Or eventually do his own thing but still butt heads like wb/ roger

#

typing that made my skin crawl i hate the generational parrallels 😭

thick mango
#

But I guess that's a good example because wb at least could pursue his goals yknow

formal wagon
#

I think he's supposed to be stronger than a character like Bellamy who settles down after they're beat. He'll probably go through the motions like luffy did after marineford, but he'll die with a black flag before he raises a white one.

thick mango
#

Wb and rogers goals not mutually exclusive

#

Once luffy gets kop is he content to go for... second place..also arrived

formal wagon
#

I think if he loses the race for pirate king he'll just find some other goal.

#

sorry when he loses

thick mango
#

I guess what I'm saying is if that's inevitable I'd prefer he get a new goal after his loss with shanks so that can actually take place in main story a bit

sage temple
#

Kidd is dead btw

formal wagon
#

Im fine with that so long as its not like giving up totally, if he wants revenge on shanks and thats his new thing then well on him

thick mango
#

I like kid being dead but I think 60% he's alive

sage temple
#

I think 80% he's dead

solid mantle
thick mango
formal wagon
#

chekhov's giant sword needs a wielder and hes the only one that can do it

formal wagon
#

yes really

sage temple
#

Loki probably can

formal wagon
thick mango
#

Loki has ragnir

#

Unless you ok with him giving it to usopp

formal wagon
#

barely beat the squirrel. Chekhov's second giant sword is for a true pirate

sage temple
#

Why would that mean he has to give it to Ussop

#

??

trim lily
#

socrates stuck between loki using the sword and giving up ragnir or keeping ragnir and losing the sword to kid

sage temple
#

Ragnir is sentient so it can just use itself

thick mango
#

1 legendary weapon per customer unless you're zoro

formal wagon
#

the sword is like 1000x times larger than loki

sage temple
#

He was 16 years old

sage temple
#

I wish I could assume whatever I want like you

trim lily
#

point_and_laugh low ranked assumer

thick mango
#

You wanna spread around the cool. There's diminishing returns on giving someone a secondary weapon

#

Also he has the legendary fruit

#

It'd be such overkill he has enough

sage temple
#

Yeah

sage temple
#

That's just his return his bloodline and relations to crazy people

#

As a kid he was arguably stronger than Rocks and Harald after beating Ragnir

thick mango
# sage temple Not really overkill

Legendary fruit and two different legendary weapons? Bro needs to share some of the exciting powers. Leave the sword for someone else. Or give away the hammer first

sage temple
#

Ragnir isn't legendary

trim lily
#

don’t forget his cursed magic eyes

sage temple
thick mango
#

Idk about legendary as like a a specific grade or verbiage but its absolutely legendary from the colloquial meaning

sage temple
#

Ragnir was never seen as legendary

#

It just guards something that is legendary

trim lily
#

i mean i think we can assume it’s on a similar level

thick mango
trim lily
#

harald says he’ll take up ragnir and eat the fruit

#

so they’re equally infamous

#

well maybe not equally since loki apparently didn’t know it

thick mango
#

But yeah you also mentioned the eyes. Point is lokis got plenty. Each additional thing you get suffers increasing diminishing returns. Better to give out to someone else who it'll have a bigger impact on

celest mauve
#

does anyone know if luffy mentioned wanting to sail the grand line to meet everyone they've seen again? if so, which chapter?

sage temple
#

Legendary is an adjective describing the status of something being a legend

trim lily
#

i think that objectively is what legendary means lol

sage temple
#

That literally isn't

#

If Shanks tries to guard the Nika fruit does that make him legendary

thick mango
trim lily
#

the legendary guardian

sage temple
#

He guards the legendary object

#

No matter how long he does it for