#also-manga
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Curious
I literally just looked at it, and for some reason it didn't occur to me that he was a bbp
Usopps goal is to be a brave warrior inspired by the elbaf warriors pride. He goes to a country of the prideful samurai and what does he do?
the point of usopp character isn’t being some powerhouse
my braincells are running out of myelin
Save their lives
Multiple times
Ok this one is pretty great
He admonishes them for their mentality of dying in battle. Choosing to live pathetically than to die with their so called Valor. It's just as brook said. People die when they are killed. And when you die nothing but bones remains
Sniped the look-outs(with Haki btw) to make sure their ambush didnr get ruined
Saved Kinemon’s life
Spread the dango
Captured the Mary for Tama to make her command
Nope!
He's grown up from his childish mentality and became a reliable guy
🍎 🧑⚕️ 🐎
Usopp chastised them for being so pressed to die honorably, they lose sight of what it means to fight for your life
What usopp says there is “I won’t just lay down and die”
It’s basically just an usopp version of Kratos saying “death can have me when it earns me”
not to mention theres still a lot in this arc
It showed great growth of character even if it wasn't reflected in his fights
Usopp correctly pointed out they were about to throw their lives away
Wasting their lives
Because they still had fight in them
I'm not satisfied about everything regarding Usopp in Wano. Him telling Nami to lie about Luffy still hurts
He just didn’t want Nami to die
it was to save her life
is this the only emote we have unrelated to onepiece?
Nami was going to die if she admitted it. Ulti just wanted to break her keeping her alive only for that
But even if she wasn't. Usopp himself is the one who said there was a time and place for running
I think we used to have more, but they got removed
The bone cracking was even a callback to that very time
Isn't that a guy reading one piece and laughing as a result?
I gave a suggestion to use bot to track emote usages, idk if its been implemented 
I'm pretty sure I've seen that being used

Yet she didn't even after admitting
or maybe that was for roles
🤔
yeah, I was mixing it with roles. we did track which roles were the least popular not too long ago
Nami never admitted what Ulti wanted. Ulti wanted Nami to say Luffy would never be king. To deny her captains dream
If she had Ulti would win. And with no other reason to keep Nami alive she'd just kill her
ulti vs chinjao headbutting go
Ulti
Doffy is for all intents and purposes Kaidos 4th commander. His own commanders are probably on level with the tobi roppo. And Lao G was a level below them
Ulti would be a closer match for Vergo or Pica than Lao and Lao was decidedly above Chinjao
Even if we don't hold Doffy to Commander level that just makes Lao and by extension Chinjao worse
Vergo is a bum, his ass couldn't control haki to use effectively so he uses all over his body
doffy was not
Chinjao is easily the most disappointing CoC user. Boas never even showed her CoC and he's still substantially worse than her.
looks at ace
Kidd also didn't show
Kidd didn't even show haki
Kidd took down an emperor chinjao was a literal toy to Sugar
Didn't he use in flashback?
yeah but like against like negative jobber tier
Although we should thank Chinjao. It's because of him that we know hax devil fruits work even on Conquerors

ace strength is carried by feats in a non canon novel
Give him a break, he is old.
Old people tend to lose stamina so they can't use haki properly
Chinjao says he’s “fangless” now
Ace fought Jinbabe for 5 days straight next to the water
ace would’ve been very powerful tho
Doesn't really matter he's dead now

Wonder if Bonney could take Aces corpse and give an alternative future
naw, even without those he gets through jack
I don't understand these concept of fighting for days, do they not eat? Pee? Shit?
You think Ace beats Jack?
they hold it in
yes
I know Jack doesn't win much but that's really impressive
yeah he should
he stops around queens level
I disagree
Jimbe in marineford is same as current?
pretty much
Ace was the 2nd divison commander of a yonko crew
Beating Jack shouldn’t be some crazy statement😂
So who’s stronger, Sanji or ace
like he doesn't have much power growth
Sanji
Ace said straight up he couldn't beat Smoker
sanji now
Pre time skip Smoker was too much for him
let's relax here
Smoker is an underrated character ngl
Don't let Early Piece™ and 1998 Oda cloud your judgement.
Yeah
Feats are feats
Ace
Oda just don't want to show smoker in a weak view
I don't see Ace beating Jack.
guess what came out in 1998 buffy
Back then
Ch 49😂🤣
I don't see King beating Ace.
No way, didn’t his brick fist move get stronger and stuff?
Him doing as well as he did vs Jinbabe is impressive enough
100% he’d lose
I don't see kaido beating ace
I have no idea but its been 2 years so he probably is a bit stronger
not really
he arguably beats WB forget ace
Bruh
We see Ace fight Whitebeard he's not even a match in Wbs sleep
ace had no shot vs kaido
Pokemon?
jinbei was already like in his like peak, not like he was training or anything
Queen on the otherhand was capable of knocking out Big Mom. King had big mom dead to rights
i mean Pokémon US
Ace loses to jaya level bb
what were you gonna say came out in 98?
Queen healed BM with that headbutt, he did negative damage
Nothing Ace has shown demonstrates that level of ability. Instead he gets killed in one punch by Akainu
chapter 49
Jaya lvl bb upscale
who was basically yonko level
No bruh bb got stronger too, and that was a close match,. Plus BB only won bc of his fruit
huh, i thought you were joking
Post Jaya BB lost to Magellan and was helpless against Dying Wb
BB was already stronger than all commanders at this point
Not stronger than Marco
no breaks back then oda was moving quick
He's still a Yonko
48 a chapters a year
thinking back to bb beating ace is kind of breaking my brain considering how people powerscale nowadays
magallen is a meme man
That's fine. I don't think Luffy at that point is beating Jack either
Marco somehow held off king and queen at the same time
MAGELLAN IS COOL STFU
ehh, not really
Chopper also held off Queen
he poops
pooping is cool
queen was playing with him
he is diarrhea man and owns it wholeheartedly. the definition of "aura" as the youth say
don't lie
I agree with u buffy
don't do that
What was your opinion on mr 2 pre impel down?
Kinda a weird guy
mr. 2 is smart
"hurr durr let's hide Buffy's favorite character behind Nitro." get bent mods.
and kinda cool
rich how can u explain the pre timeskip bb fights vs ace magellan etc

Only during marineford. During alabasta he kinda was just annoying
was that yonko level stuff to u
Yep
Nah that pre Pre Ts
yeah, bb was always that strong
So peak
Blackbeard only became a yonko after stealing WB fruit, during the timeskip
Irrespective of whether you are yonko or pirate king, a poison can still kill you.
Probably why shanks is so powerful
😭
sure he reached that status but he was always that strong
To be fair its moving so you would need nitro anyway
Which garp? Current garp? He would lose
poison doesn’t work on everyone
otherwise whole cake would’ve been a lot easier
BB easily
Not even a contest
Can conq haki nullify stuff like poison? Is that in sbs? I don’t really read the sbs
Discord is such a scam. You can use moving stickers without nitro but can't use moving emojis
That's true Reibae could have done a lot more than just look cute. Most of the big mom pirates have no immunity to poison
But she chooses to fight the one person who does in Smoothie
Hell nah
can't nulify it but can potentially block it
but magallen also poisons the air

everyone gotta breath
Then ig the only way to survive magellan is me plot armor
Luffy nearly died from the poison fish. Being a conqueror doesn't grant poison immunity
Magellan uses 1% toxicity of the One Piece fandom
Magellans poison is a DF power so it can potentially be countered by Haki
Poison itself tho. Im not sure.
What, I can't see nitro badge in your profile 
u can’t be immune to or resist poison unless u are a freak of nature like BM
Temporary through orbs 
Lol
There is no light without darkness
or just kill him
Caesars power was also devil fruit but that doesn't mean Luffy can negate the oxygen deprivation
Luffy is more resistant now but he had to go thru heroin withdrawals first
magallen isn't strong by today's standards
Caesar vs magellan
The anime chat said they missing your quizzes
Doffy would use strings to stop poison from spreading. Bb lazy ass could never
ceaser no diffs
Caesars poison didn't work on Luffy because Luffy was immune to poison. Not because he can haki his way past fruit powers
i don't care. this is unfair, bigoted, tyrannical, and also somehow homophobic.
Who? 
Magellans poisons were so strong Luffy got an immunity to Caesars and that was before Magellan used hydra
The children of #anime
rubber counters a lot of powers in this story conveniently
lightning fire and vibrations
Like? Name one
That said Caesar wins. Maggy has no defense against oxygen deprivation
i’ve never went in anime
I dont think BB will be a good guy but I don't think he'll die EoS
why do ppl talk about it like they are bots😂
This guy called axel idk about the other ones
or really of any of ceaser's attacks
like magallen can't do anything
Its like the East Blue
Will he be in prison or something
Or just dip

Honestly guys could akainu defeat the smile monster thing
I’m a vibrations expert and I can say it’s not not perfectly countered. The elasticity has a limit
we'll defeat the Blackbeard Pirates with the power of friendship
anyone touches magellan's poison and they are fucked. maybe haki overcomes it, but that's cause oda is a hack.
yes in his sleep
Going to #anime being caught up to Manga is like being Mihawk talking shit to Zoro without spoilers
"You have no idea how big the world is"
You don't need to touch Magellan to beat him
Honestly am I the only one kinda pissed that gear 5 isn’t unique anymore thx to Bonney 😭
being a loser?
If he attacks it from a distance yes because it immediately blows up from fire
not how that works and get ready for more
Jan 19 is too far away istg
The anime only theories are adorable especially when they have no idea that they have a big storm coming
"Now you're gonna fight all of me!" - Gear 5 Luffy with his Gear 5 army at his side
Its gonna be 15th or something with TCB release
nah it isn’t it’s like fire, it softens the impact but doesn’t completely negate it
Seriously? 🙏
so not a direct counter but nullifies it a little bit
Yeah 19th is just the official release we get tcb scans earlier like thursday/friday
I live in America
he's gonna have his version of domi
just watch
Ngl that’d be tuff
yeah yeah i know. goda or whatever.

I live in europe and it comes out fridays for me for you maybe Thursday
But could it also negate imus domi reversi then?
it'll be peak
yes, cause the pieces will be flipped back
it's 50/50. i bet it will split the fandom just like Gear 5 did.
just went in there
cyg talking like a celestial dragon
😂
Has it been proved luffy gear 5 can turn air into rubber?
lesser beings
Just like water and stuff
not hard to do
you need to love
That's just brazy
i think he turned the ocean to rubber
He ran on the air, though I don't know if that counts or was just a one-off gag
Reminder Luffy does not have the rubber fruit
Lmaoo
"Lesser beings" lmaoo reminds me of the Bartksy incident
Oh yea, I’ve been wanting to ask, what was the weird marks in luffys eyes when joyboys haki released
His powers are still rubber-based
weird marks?
He can turn things rubbery because Nika can do so. His awakening is not life Doffys where he turns x into his element
Nika has a body with the properties of rubber
Yeah
The red triangles or stuff
Yep
He makes them rubbery
and gum
yeah the gorosei state that directly right?
It is known
Racist allegations 😭
is this an anime thing? I'm speaking the manga panel, do you have the panel?
WHAT happened 
😭😭
What a wild day that was
it is an anime thing
anime only
Honestly I watched the anime until egghead finished in like 3 months 😭
ah, we tend to prioritize the manga first and foremost since it's Oda's canon
Then I started the manga and caught up bc of how peak it is
Some random was claiming bartsky to be a racist
the anime added something that resembled a magic circle to Luffy's eyes during the Joyboy Haki release
anime additions more or less do not count
Bartsky was trolling someone and called them a lesser being and they said "im black" and made it a whole ting
I had to speak up as a black man for bro
who bartsky?
Thanks Toei, you jackasses
So it didn’t happen in the manga?
This could only happen to Bartsky
😭😭😭😭 @cosmic hamlet wtf bro
maybe it did, but I don't remember
I think bartonelow
Bartsky didnt do anything wrong but bro tried to put that jacket on him anyway
Bartholomew?
No Bartsky a user
yes
I have been doing that from very long time
holy shit chudmu sticker amazing thank you!!!!!
Bro is committed
What is this hideous thing
Wait this is a whole ass sticker here
Yeah and that awakening gives greater rubberyness
The mf still tries to bring that up too
Where does this come from
Wimu
LMAOOO FR?
Yeah
hell yeah, amazing!!!
Tell bro to stfu
is imu a big trash bag
What is it from
yes
big glob of black paint
@spice cairn Your Imu from the Japan show got a sticker.
some japanese show
Now I gotta find it
have you guys seen the sabo imu figure
Oh thats pretty fire
Damn where can I get this
but what do you think of the rest of the figure?
I saw one at gamestop
ignore the theory, cause I couldnt find the frame itself, but this is it
That’s what I was talking about
other retailers probably have it
This upscales Sabo so much, they needed a figure to solidify the moment.
Oh, no.......
I like it
they are right tbf, there will be a 6th gear
Oh yea, doesn’t the new gorosei want figarland have a monstrous form too now?
lol
facebook one piece 🔥
though not cause of the eyes, I think the eyes are not significant and Toei made it up
lol waitwaitwait, is this the first time Oda's silhouettes have been made into figures?
to me it looks too much like those old soccer bobble heads
Gear 6th believer spotted
probably? I laughed when I saw it cause it's just silhouettes
does it? does just not dying count as an upscale?
its kinda inevitable, youre crazy if you think this is actually Luffy's peak
that was intended as sarcasm. i have no idea if this scales sabo anywhere whatsoever
LOL
Guys will garp turn on the world government?
There is only one gear thats left for luffy
Gear Death
gottem
he will reveal ATLEAST one new form
Top 1 and his 5 strongest jumped him so kinda yes
Either gear death or gear reverse
5 kaidos
no
it will be Super Nika, the Super version of Nika that not even Joyboy could achieve
I am your enemy against new Luffy forms, Arsal.
After using gear reverse, he will lose his df powers
||Didn't copy from any other series
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Character development
The gorosei would lose to kaido, at least in a 2v1
All Luffy will do is more and more ridiculous stuff with Gear 5, but not a new form. I hope.
denial of reality...
This is an uphill battle even if theres no Gear 6
Gear 5 denies reality via imagination. It doesn't get better than that.
Ngl I also kinda hope he gets a new form
Gear 6 ... creating your own reality ... 
I hope he never gets a new form and you all poop yourselves.
it doesnt have to be Gear 6th per se, I think Oda might ditch that naming convention
But there isn’t much detail about the imagination into reality stuff, like why does t Che just change the world then
he won't get a new form but he'll get his version of domi
it will be Super Nika
Gear reverse denies time
Gear Reverse
Gear 1st after he loses his devil fruit to BB
sure that also works
We don't actually know what imagination even entails at this point, it's early days. But what we've seen so far suggests Luffy will only grow the expansion of what he can imagine.
Remember when people said there wont even be Gear 5
I was one of them
!os
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I was one of anti g5's strongest warriors
its literally just a Nika but Super smh
I didn't think we'd have gear 4 because Surely if Luffy had it post timeskip he'd have used it against Noah
but then oda shot me
he didn't have enough blood
its a Super Nika, its not like I said there will be a Super Nika 2, Super Nika 3, Super Nika 4, Super Nika God- okay yes sorry its a reference
What if it ends up looking like this and this guy is justified?
banned for os
lmao
You were always doomed to fail ... even after Wano there are still so many arcs where gear 5 could have happened, if there was none Oda wouldnt have done gear 4 in Dressrosa already
Lmaooo
thank you youtube
if luffy ended up with golden hair with some new form, that tattoo guy will never let anyone live it down
look lets be real
more g4 forms
Imagine he just manages to delete this tattoo and then its revealed
Luffy has two monumental fights to get through, the biggest fights ever in the series
just end it all at that point

I said this too but it wouldve only sufficed until final war still
he turned into bellamy
luffy will just do more imagination ez
I think even current BB isnt losing to this version of Luffy, and Imu is a whole another thing
luffy WILL hit BB or Imu with a manga panel
Full Nika aka Super Nika
naw at that point just let him seamlessly switch between forms in combat
sorry, but i'm on the bb kills imu train
against BB he will get Super Haki, thats fine, thats well and good
I thought better of you
bellamy for sh
but Imu, now that will warrant Super Nika
blame the rocks flashback
sorry, muk. i no longer see imu as the final villain
yay! I found my favorite thumbnail again
Hes so chill
W pogger
I don’t mind if you don’t think he’s the final villian I just think Blackbeard killing imu is ass
Yeah I wanted this in Wano
I also don't think BB is going to play fair when killing Imu.
BB is destined to fail, Xebec adds layers to his motivations and gives him more direct reasons to pursue it, but he will still fail
Luffy doesn't care about the world
if BB fails and is not the final fight, it will be right before laugh tale
Also 5 is just the more satisfying number than 4
but BB desiring the world and rocks flashback is what i'm banking on
These looks cool. I want luffy bone man form now 😭
WB told him, he aint him, he isnt the one to shoulder centuries of history and turn the world upside down, he aint the one to lead the war that the WG fears
5 is more satisfying than 6 unless you love Satan like me
Why is Payback Man a Rhinoceros
Idk 😭
but he can become the opposition to that person
facebook agrees with the anime stuff
now, we can also get the Ancient Kingdom flashback, which could bring better understanding to Imu and make them feel even more like the final villain
long haired Nika 
I saw this also 
I love when people are just posting hell yeah piece
yeah, and he will fail in opposition to him
I believe in true gears. We get a refined versions of all gears again 
that i agree with. i'm just thinking it's after imu gets shanked
So because an old man said something it must be true? Do you think Luffy would care if Whitebeard told him he wasn't the destined child? Do you think Luffy would find the one piece then just accept that he's too early and go ahead and die?
Bb is a man of fate but he also takes fate into his own hands and defies it as he wills. It doesn't matter if he isn't the chosen he will be the chosen
gear 3 is just nightmare luffy
fwiw, this hair almost seemed longer than Luffy's current hair
also, i think more and more to BB having 2 DFs. it does make him feel all that much more important.
but hard to say
there's more to the darkness df we have yet to see, and it may be the downfall of imu
Yeah, i noticed too 
Gear 5 imagines himself as Nightmare Luffy 
Oh i have that too
I feel like they confused what Gear 3 and Gear 4 is
yeah
Nightmare Luffy was 100x stronger than Luffy. Shakky said that Raybae was 100x stronger than Luffy. Nightmare Luffy = Ray
why do all fan gears look so ass
none of us are oda i guess
this is what I am seeing
that the shield is hiding Nika's much longer hair
They kept a planet in place of luffy head 😭
the only good one
Fan arts in general are so edgy it’s so cringe
Gear Psycho
yeah something like this
Isn't that cloud?
is what I am imagining
gear reverse soon 💯
general relativity man...
could be yea, thats why I am not sure, just saying it could be his much longer hair

we are not seeing the ends of Nika's hair there, its hidden behind the shield
I wonder if we will see variations in g5 like g4
Giant kinda is one
The red marking is cloud, blue is hair
time AND space
yeah again, it could be but its unclear
What if Gear 6 Luffy is just all purple because of the true awakening of his devilfruit
ourple guy
Thanos Lean Luffy
LMAO
nonzero chance of Oda actually pulling this one
I have that one aswell
Where's that Connections game at
theres no real art of Gear 6 Devil Man, sad
This will happen trust
good
He goes into a whole other state where you can only see his true form with 3D glasses
this is so bad
What is this supposed to be
its base form Luffy, but with Nika attributes
The way Mihawk is just on his sword
this is the type of post i see in x
Devil man
Aura
thats not real art
slop art
Is it AI?
yeah
If Zoro actually has a secret power in his eye and he only uses it against Mihawk, and not against people like Kaido or the Gorosei.
Yes
yeah 100% lol
it wasnt ready back then
Okay my bad 🥲
I can see this being the excuse, actually
This is dope
It’s so funny how anti Oda these fanarts are
poor luffy is suffering from frostbite
Literally what he was describing when he was saying shonen jump is becoming too serious
Zoro's final form is the only one where I think Oda would go the full demon route
Its hakibite
Zoros what
final form
This is why the Zoro eye theories went back drastically after Wano because until Wano there was this sense that he never really tried or had a hard fight post timeskip
to be fair snakeman doesnt look too different
i think they all use snakeman as the base then go from there
I love that someone actually made this
and I really hope they thought it was cool
This one
What the hell is getting posted in here
I actually only started believing them after Wano, because there was no BS like that attached to it anymore
i have no doubt many people hope itll be real
this will be canon btw
Peak fiction
what if zoro was even MORE cool and awesome
the reaper exists to give Zoro a powerup from the Underworld
this will happen
Demon ashura form
I thought that was robot roger at first, but then I noticed the stitches
vegapunk should make a robot roger
It was the only point for it imo
Moria gonna summon all old legends
nah fuck that, I want robot roger now
Seraphim roger?
If zoro can make people see 2 clones of himself he can make people see him with red skin and horns
no, robot roger
he has been training them, this is what EOS Zoro will be like
two scars
he will add the 2nd scar after he opens his left eye
What is robot roger?
If not seraphim then
Px?
Clone like stussy?
Sattilites like lilith?
Zoro making other people preceive things differently via eye powers ...
a robot
but roger

it's really simple
People thought zoro would open his eye in wano
he almost did, thats what the Reaper was there for
Yean he uses his eye powers to make sanji perceive him slightly handsomer

the people are not ready for the reaper to be some underworld demon king bullshit to give Zoro a cool new form
It could just be the curse from his sword
the Zoro fanart in Wano was so funny
but they didnt realize that its not the time for this yet
you cant have Zoro go all demon king 400 chapters before the series ends
Too late you agreed
Well sorry Arsal I agreed
Get the shotgun meet out back
Im bored
look I am simply acknowledging where the series is headed by the EOS
W reason
a ZKK turned ZKL turned ZKI secret agent is always listening
the SH will be much different strength wise by EOS, all of them will have their own final forms
Zoro (base form)
What is ZKL
lucci?
Zoro kills Luffy?
Zoro kills Loki
Zoro will most likely kill imu
He’s the king of hell meaning he hates gods, and even said he doesn’t believe in them
He’s also deathless since he’s stronger than death himself
Why Loki
no no this time for sure
back when people still thought he would be the villain of the arc
Luffy : Super Nika
Zoro : Demonic shit related to the reaper in Onigashima
Sanji : New Jambe, more genes awakening who knows
Jinbe : Mythical Fishman Karate form
Chopper : Ultra powerful Forest God Awakening
Franky : Pluton infused Mecha
Robin : Some construct made of hands
Brook : Some Underworld shit
Nami : Weather Witch
Usopp : Doesn't need a final form, not the type to transform really
man sanji is ass 😭
forest god chopper 
Bro gonna get a new glow stick
This is so far back I forgot because I always knew he would be good
Loki might still end up being elbafs villain. I don't see any reason why he couldn't be domi'd
i mean we already know who elbaf's villain is
It’s Usopp
i think its clear we'll figure out the way to undo domi reversi here
or at least its likely
We know, it’s armament
Domi reversi isn’t the biggest issue though
no acoc is for fighting regen in general
I wish I could delude myself as easily as arsal can
i assume luffy's special White Power undoes the domi reversi flip
Roger directly states it’s armament that undid the curse
every bit of what I said has a more than 75% chance of occurring Cunk
Chopper forest god
Acoc slows regen it doesn’t negate it
i refuse to believe arsal wasnt joking with forest god chopper

he'll be able to make his own domi versions
Oppression impact incoming 😭
Did Roger know it came undone? Seems kinda a dick move to leave him for dead then
it will happen
New chopper form is one of the more likelier things arsal said
it's all a game
Yes he kept saying this throughout the fight
i dont think so
Is this for Elbaf?
Assuming arsal doesn't think choppers fruit is a secret mythical
Super nika is crazy 😭
Chopper getting a new form is basically guaranteed, he will awaken and get a new form
Why would Sanji’s powerup be a new Jambe and not just ACoC like it’s clearly going to be lol
no its all their final forms
Acoc let's him get a new jambe
True
If it’s just Acoc he really is getting sloppy thirds 😭
Black flames baby
and yeah, ACOC will allow him to take those temps higher too I am sure
He gets ACoC this arc, then he makes black flames like 2 arcs later
You say this until it’s revealed Sanji’s gonna unlock the super perfect version of CoC and be more natural at it than Zoro coz he has to be in order to fight the abyss fuckers
yeah probably against his BBP Opponent
This arc is def ending in another L
Oda HATES Zoro
famously
Zoro and Sanji are gonna be too strong by the time they face the BBP
well it could be......................................
No way elbaf ends with a victory LOL
Sanjis final opponent will be Zeff
Sanji will unlock Eternal Jambe where his heat goes on forever like the og mother flame and he has the power of ancient weapons
the raid will fail
This time for sure guys
well if Shiryu is stronger than Kuzan...
Tbh ZKK has a possibility of happening back then
I mean Elbaf won’t end in Imu’s defeat so in a sense
egghead ended in failure wdym
Wano was always gonna end in Kaido’s defeat
egghead was a tie
These guys were just idiots
now I hate Shiryu but
both sides won and lost
Absolutely not lmao
the color spread...
it objectively was
Vegapunk lost a LOT including his own life
😭😭
The color spread came out before kuzan was revealed to be a bbp officially
the color spread...................
Don’t entertain nonsense
vegapunk is alive
He’s not
Lmao
The SHs are gonna lose in WCI
The Raid is gonna fail
Egghead the SHs are gonna lose
This time in elbaf we are gonna see the SHs lose
he is unfortunately
They do not have access to punk records
Shiryu believers let’s goooooo
eh dont think it really matters
Egghead was a failure because they all got out alive and saved kuma and got the message out to the world
Shiryu was excited that he was able to cut a distracted Garp while invisible
We are NOT putting Shiryu over Kuzan
Vegapunk from 20 years ago is not our Vegapunk
Luffy losing to Katakuri was some crazy cope back in the day
Is meaningless
ITS A FALSEHOOD
Kuzan is stronger
they do
You can tell egghead was a failure for the straw hats because imu killed Saturn for failing
I will not entertain anything else
They explicitly don’t reread
Luffy lost to Kat, its just they had multiple fights in quickish succession
Lilith disconnected herself from punk records
If Shiryu was just a YC1 guy, Zoro is simply too strong for him by the time they fight
Cope
and its not really close honestly
Luffy could have easily kidnapped Brulee and left him trapped there indefinitely but nah he needed a training dummy
Well Shiryu is a cheating dirty fighting bastard
Zoro will be too strong for him. The difficulty will be in his fruit power and using underhanded tactics
be careful when you say to reread
There was this theory that oda drew 2nd strongest of the crews in cover art and drew shiryu for bb pirates when kuzan was part of bb pirates 
He was never clashing with Zoro like that
Brother this doesn’t change what I said
I don't see Shiryu as on level with the commanders
this sounds like an uninteresting fight ngl, but thats Shiryu I suppose
Sanji will be “too strong” too for whoever he faces
Shiryu is mid warlord level
look
the vegapunks literally have punk records with them and are in the sky
Yeah Shiryu is inherently an uninteresting fight
It is what it is
what if Shiryu is stronger than Kuzan, and Sanji is Kuzan's fight
Zoro still has mihawk andgandhi
This is what happens when Oda reuses a terrible fruit again
Awful
The vegapunks who aren’t currently with us??
I knew this was all leading to this
lmao
It’s what all Sanji fans say
what does that change
To justify Sanji vs Kuzan
The ones who are completely irrelevant to VP returning
And then if that were to happen, they’d say Sanji fought the 2nd strongest
what yall had for lunch today
theyre all vegapunk, thats the whole point of the satellites lmao
French Toast and Milk
Kuzan opponent is either law or katakuri
regardless of that lillith has her stupid clone in progress anyway
Kuzan isn't ice he's coldness. So he should go to the hottest Strawhat
Sanji and Zoro will fight the top 2 non kuzan bbps
comfy
Juzan will lose to Koby and co
The reason Lilith doesn’t have access to punk records is because she literally cannot without jeopardizing their escape and plans
Zoro
This isn’t theory fodder this is explicit
alright nevermind
wait whats french toast again
hey I am not claiming that atleast
is it toast dipped in egg then fried?
Lilith rn isn’t connected
I’m saying you will
Then we use this to say shiryu is stronger than kuzan 
basically, pan fried
nah I trust the color spread smh

i remember my dorm used to serve french toast and it was kinda sweet
is it normal to add sugar to it?
There is physical mentally emotionally spiritually no chance on this earth that Shiryu is stronger than kuzan
I mean yea
Yeah, it kinda makes the whole thing imo
Shiryu started out so hyped. Equal to Magellan who was destroying everyone at the time
You’re literally stupid if you think that’s the case after the Garp chapters
I was sure he'd get Jozus diamond fruit and beat Mihawk
I wouldnt say that, Shiryu has a month or two to get stronger
Garp didnt even use haki he just slammed him
There might be a timeskip for every non strawhat post elbaf
all the BBP are still in training, that was clear from Van Augur still just getting used to his fruit
man im not looking forward to any potential zoro vs shiryu fight in the future
Kuzan is an outlier as far as emperor subordinates go
how do you make shiryu into an interesting fighter
Well I guess Mihawk too
I'm not
There is no way shiryu is stronger than kuzan.
Like come on kuzan is on par with akainu who fought whitebeard
yeah it was a fun breakfast
I didn’t say you
Shiryu if he was on Zoro's level is atleast leaving room for hype moments and aura
Based
Shiryu was on par with Magellan who took on 3 yonkou and beat all of them but Buggy
Nah, I'm just saying I'm not part of them since i was the one who posted that
He should have been strong but instead he's...what he is
His df was such a let down. Its ass unless he awakens and completely erases his presence
I hate this invisible fruit
I think he can, no observation user has seen a invisible fruit user so far
It's useless if it doesn't block mantra by default
Garp reacted to him but by what looked to be sound
No one has haki in pre ts when absolam used it in thriller bark
Absalom got away with Moria in front of Doffy, Garp only noticed him by his footsteps seemingly
Unless you are using garp incident which was a battle field
Oh thats how Moria made it out?
yeah
This might be cope but I think most people are jumping the gun on the Shiryu fight. Odas not dumb. Yeah the fruit seems lame, but I think Oda could draw some really cool artistic things when you couple Shiryu’s bloodlust aspect with invisibility. I think there could be some really cool panels and pages during that fight. Will the choreography be good necessarily? Idk maybe not. But I think there will be some cool shit drawn
It’s probably gonna end in some bullshit way
I always thought Doffy was just lazy and Moria got up later after being beaten
But that’s par for the course atp in the story
Where was this absalom helping moria from doffy from?
Invisible fruit sounds easy to draw
Shiryu fight can be whatever Oda wants he just won’t be stronger than kuzan
SBS
I thought doffy let him go
That’s why he’ll make it more interesting lol
I think Oda just didn't want to be bothered with Shiryu later
ohhh
The games…
HES OBVIOUSLY NOT STRONGER THAN KUZAN
I just mean purely from a stylistic and artistic pov
Shiryu was yelping in joy over scratching someone
Yeah I won’t lie I am not particularly excited for Sanji and Zoros bbp fight
Still that df is ass for shiryu
He's weak
It could be a more interesting fight than people are assuming
But at least the weaker Strawhats should be fun
And Luffy of course
Ideally we just skip them but that won’t happen
Nami vs Shiryu would be fine she has history with Absalom
If yamato joins, yamato will fight kuzan.
If not then either kuzan doesn't fight or someone outside of strawhats will fight kuzan
Finally some good fucking food
no, he got a CP0 member, that looked like Guernika, yelling at him for it lol
and he said "no he just disappeared, what could I have done"
Robin vs Kuzan
if only oda wasn't scared of killing characters. (kinemon)
Zoro vs Shiryu is an observation haki battle, which is really the only potential way to make it interesting
Yea I agree, if Oda wasn’t scared of killing characters he would have killed his entire main cast off by now
Yeah but i thought he let him escape and gave a lame excuse that he disappeared but i guess doffy was telling the truth
I wanted Kinemon to get to see Momo grow up but I didn't need him to live
See Luffy arrive with Momo in tow and die with a smile knowing Wano is in good hands
When we are in act2, people expected more than half scabbards to die 
if kinemon died, his story would have been perfect. then he came back with some bs reason to not even do anything later in the arc
nah he was being serious about that part
All of them could have gone
they should have. How are you going against 2 yonko, in this case going against kaido, just for them to survive
wano should have had way more consequences
Depending on how you define half we did lose half the scabbards
Love doffy and his attitude
which ones?
The lame part is, people who skipped 20 years survived but deaths are among the people who suffered 20 years
well we did lose 3 atleasat, Kanjuro an OG/current Scabbard, Izo a scabbard 20 years ago, Ashura Douji a current scabbard
I learned something new today, didn't know absolam helped moriah.
No wonder he was sad that absolam died
Kanjuro, Izo, Asura, with Neko Inu and Kiku losing limbs
Kinemon not dying is like my least favourite thing from OP. He would have had a perfect send of
This is worth way more than Kinemon dying. He met Otsuru as a lowdown scoundrel. Oden made him into a man worthy enough to be with her, and he proved it by helping avenge oden and saved Wano.
Kanjuro doesn't count 
Yamato’s Yama-toes
Man but oda showed kanjuro as so much more powerful at the end
Ngl oda not killing people isn’t the problem
Wait huh? Didn't neko and inu lose limbs in zou itself?
It’s him doing fucking fake outs
well he was holding back, using his non dominant hand to draw and fight till he betrayed the scabbards
Bet none of y’all would notice if I lost a limb 😤
Would anyone have cared if Pagaya died?
I cried daily
especially with kinemon
You have to see the anime, they added additional stuff with sanji unable to do anything to kanjuro when he kidnapped momo. Toei hyped kanjuro alot
Kinemon > toei Sanji then
Chapter 1030 clashing with 1010 for worst chapter of all time 😭
ah yea
did you lose one? I can get a helper to help you find it
1010 was the chapter Luffy learned about ACoC right? What was 1030?
Toei hates Sanji
holy bait
Will of k
there are no bad chapters
queue doflamingo style speech about chapters
1030 is when we get THREE FAKE OUT DEATHS AT ONCE
T bone gave up his life willingly for the people
That's my Goda.
He was a true marine the best of them
which characters
What's wrong with 1010?
I wish he could have made admiral
kinemon? Secret torso compartment
Kiku? Idk lunarian genes???
And kanjuro
wrong. rent a girlfriend chapter 218
Lol
There are no bad One Piece chapters*
Would emood rent a girlfriend?
A lot of poor writing decisions that rushed roofpiece to its end
Oda bring kinemon and kiku back with some bs reason for them to not do anything after
!os
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i have a girlfriend and i offered her no monetary compensation for it
The worst one piece chapter will be the final chapter because it means one piece is over
Are you being sarcastic or are you one of those oda meatriders 
Her loss
That's the best part, you'll never know. Until I break character.
Wano should have been longer
actually watchmojo top 10 worst chapters will have gear 5
Wano shouldn’t have wasted our time with base luffy vs kaido
Top 10 top 10 lists
why is robert downey jr on my kirk gif
The g5 episode for which they advertised alot was so ass
Oda started doing fake out clashes 😭
oh true. the reveal episode was pretty ass
I'd have liked some more dbz effect with Luffy starting out with base, getting faster with gear 2, getting stronger with gear 3, before finally risking it all with gear 4
Acoc is a extremely uncreative bootleg armament with virtually no build up and was completely unearned
But the luffy fight was fine I just needed more from Kaido
Well, Ryuo was its build up.
I kinda don't like that.
ACoC makes CoC relevant because before it was just for fodder cleaning
No it wasn’t
It makes it relevant in a extremely uncreative way
The entire point of Luffy learning Ryuo was that he could learn ACoC.
at least we got the roger wb clash because of acoc
I mean, on the bright side CoC is no longer an ass power which is only used to knockout fodders
No? He learned ryuo so he could attack without contact and be able to attack from within
Why?
The singular thing tying ryuo to Acoc is that they both use the concept of controlling haki
maybe because there are few of the old regulars here atm
Idk had a gut feeling
Internal destruction was hyped alot and then got overshadowed very quickly
Yeah its just you, Buffy and Mimizee
Bro 😭
Ryuo and ACoC work the EXACT SAME. The difference is that you flow your CoC instead of Armament haki through your body.
Ryuo couldn't even damage kaido lol.
It was kinda the entire point of Luffy learning Ryuo.
Just came from work so im a bit disoriented
Ngl i rarely chat in manga anymore 
???? Ryuo could damage Kaido
He literally just needed more AP lmao, Acoc doesn’t do internal or no touch
Ryuo did damage kaido but the wounds were shallow
If it did Yamato wouldn’t be cuff diffed
I chat several places, but this is the chat I prefer
This isn’t even a argument it’s just fact
Aloha!
It didn't really damage him that much tbh. ACoC was needed.
I try to text everywhere I can
Not a whole lot of damage
I'm muted in spoiler channel for 5 chapters
Yeah I agree, that doesn’t mean ryuo was acoc’s build up
That’s like saying gear 5 was built up by Acoc 😭
It was in a way
It is, believe it or not
Not really
Never seen you in #anime
give us your theory meek
Ryuo is the concept of flow with haki which is applied first to armament and then coc.
Source: they both use haki control
Its kind of hard for me to text there because I cant really consistently use the spoiler tag consistently.
And im not an anime nerd
Luffy needed to undergo the Ryuo training to realize he could apply that shit to CoC too. But he also needed to get his shit rocked by Kaido using ACoC
Yes but the concept is specifically about ryuo as defined by adv armament
What? Ask him chapter instead of theory 😭
To realize it was even a thing
Not the sole concept of flow
That's why I'm saying that Ryuo was the build up to ACoC?
If we dont include One Piece I've only kept up with like 3 anime series over the years
I was feeling frisky
You don't need to use tags though? You can't talk about manga which isn't animated and rest you don't need to tag
But if we DO include one piece, you’ve kept up with 4 
No it isnt. You are confusing two explanations here. Hyo explains exactly what ryuo is and then goes on to give specifics to how it can be used with armament.
No no I’m saying that’s the definition being used here
Oh if youre talking about the OP anime then lmao lol
I know the canon definition
If he is literally just saying haki control is acoc build up then idc that’s a nothing burger point
Yeah op anime, what you are thinking of is #other-series i think
That's what I'm saying 😭💔
I think at most I might watch the films at some point
I also don't watch anime but i still chat in anime for fun
No you explicitly said they have the same abilities
I suppose thats fair.
Kapital 😁
I didn't.
I should've worded it better.
My bad
Alr that’s fine
do we really need all these

