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Iirc someone also said that ain't remembering who though
Because this is the first thing that pops up
They just be hating
mihawk really isn’t a hateable character
i guess it’s the fans that make ppl dislike him
Ig he gets hated mostly beacuse of not showcasing his full power. Most people want to see him in full power that's all. If Oda release one chapter of him doing then tides will change
he’s stoic but he seems like a chill guy
hes great imo
does his job pretty well
him and shanks are cool
Yeah
Also i feel Shanks fan have more role in this than Zolo's
nothing crazy but hes good
FraudGPT 😭
GOATGPT 🐐🐐
Opps I released it pretty late that you have shanks pfp 😂😂
yea he’s my favorite character
when did he get rid of the Luffy pfp
zoro being stronger than shanks eos feels super weird to me
people were calling him a tourist so much he got mad lmao
bro fell for twitter ragebait
It does.
But it will happen because Zoro is bound to surpass Mihawk.
Chapter soon boys
Do you think he will really understand the depth of one piece story?
Might fuck around and read spoilers
Isn't it releasing next week?
I grabbed this screenshot from the opening for you
Okay
Maybe Monday
(still 3 days out )
Monday is just redon dog gifs anyway
They could have added Mihawk in bg in the middle empty frame that to with pose which Kapital's pfp has
after a long break op is back
That’s fire lowkey
look how similar BB and Buggy look in this shot. Both are brothers from another mother for sure.
Buggy might be BB’s third B.
Buggy will betray Cross Guild and join BB. You heard it here first
Nah
Same mom, same dad
@last halo
that’s biologically not possible since neither Rocks nor Eris have black hair
It is fake one?
I don’t give a shit don’t send that here
Ok
No spoilers allowed on also manga
Ask who would win in 1v1
i like to show pback up
Why can’t we agree that Shanks = Mihawk?
and cause problems
You removing it doesn’t change that I saw it
relax those spoilers were fake
Nope they weren't
Considering we waited 3 weeks
No it’s not
Nvm
It's a fraud 💔
Cats on catnip
Well who cares anyways I just got spoiled twice so do what you want
Won’t read allat but does ai make good arguments?
Who's gonna tell ChatGPT that Swordsmanship includes haki 💔
yes they were. There are no spoilers from the usual sources hence fake.
decent ones
Spoiled how???
Are spoilers out??
shadow27
Or Sanji fans
it does make better arguments than your average human actually
swordsmanship isn't based on will power
@ivory sonnet nigga why did you spoil San Juan
delete this before u get banned buddy
He sent extra information after I told him not to send spoilers in here
I wanted to know if it was real hence I posted it here
no one tell sorates
@ivory sonnet why are you a cunt
u can ask a mod
Life is good because chinese horoscopes says its a bad year to be a rat, predicting misfortune and failures. As we know, Oda is a great writer who has taken Chinese inspiration frequently and Shanks is well known for being a rodent. So I believe Oda has hinted to us that the death of Shanks is this season and we can all celebrate
Neither does every other fighting style.
Haki is a supplementary multiplier. You CANNOT BE a HAKIMAN. It is meant to support your fighting style.
you can be a hakiman
its easy to get ai to say what you want
That is considered a spoiler
I will confirm this by asking if bellamy should join the SHs
Although I am pretty sure spoilers can’t be out yet
isn’t Vergo a hakiman tho?
Oda has never affiliated Shanks with a rodent, it's just the fanbase doing that
i think Oda said that Shanks spirit animal was a lion
Unless oda reveals a Haki Monster(Think of other series), I won't be convinced by this.
Sorry sorry I am just trying to make fun. I am also aware that they are fake
you won't be convinced of a lot
But still sending a link on the subject and then sending about said spoilers is wrong. I really hope none of it is true but I can’t trust that they’re not true. The damage is done
Why do Shanks fans call Shanks a haki man btw
read the rules for spoilers
Next chapter spoilers?
They are false don't you worry
because he doesn't have a devil fruit he uses haki
@next estuary hey bro this guy @ivory sonnet has been sending spoilers even after being told not to
It's a cope because they know that if shanks falls under being a swordsman (which he is), he's automatically gonna be a Mihawk victim.
Nooo 😔😔
If you want to remain safe don’t interact with shadow27
Because these aren't convincing args
cause he was hyped as the haki guy, he's got several advanced forms of haki and one of the forms we haven't even seen yet and the giants compared his haki to joyboy directly, the strongest haki we have seen in the verse. we have a lot of haki going for shanks
If Rocks' blunt force style is referred to as swordsmanship, Shanks is also a swordsman
Hell yeah
i don't think anyone told you this but there are several haki knots wrapped around yoru's hilt
Shanks is more of a swordsman than Rocks

Shadow27 keeps sending spoilers
either everyone is a swordsman or no one is
Guys will I get banned?
Yes
not necessarily
Shanks is a swordsman, and that's a fact.
Okay
Spoilers are not out yet so you are not spoiled of anything
exactly
if you are probs yes
Check his deleted messages
No he’s just one of those things where you can pour juice in a tray to make popsicles and he happens to be filled with grape juice
are Luffy and Garp the only pirates/marines who fight with their bare hands?
What did you post? Dm me
sanji fights with feet
It still supports his fighting style
same thing
Mods can see the message he removed I think which contained a link to the spoilers
Everyone fill the chat with this if I get banned plss that's my last wish and request to you all 🥹🥹
if u talking about top tiers pretty much
Dragon too
Sanji is a professional cyborg kicker
i don’t think dragon will have a weapon either
There is no such thing as a haki man
It was fake so it doesn't matter anyways
I am sending ai baby
he has good genes
it's just fans making things up tbh
It's a cope that shanks fan made.
Rip bozo
with weird fire powers
it sadly is
Its probably fake spoilers, don't worry
This is one of the best memes of 2025
i mean, shanks has the best haki in the series pretty much as has every advanced form of haki, idk how much more of a haki man you can get
Yeah
Huh!! Chill I ain't getting banned 🥶🥶🥶
The moment mod read this He is gonna get rage baited fr
idk abt best haki in the series
we havent been told Shanks has the best haki in the series
Sanji has the worlds most durable shoes
But shanks fans pretend it's a different fighting style.
no one is gonna say that
U SAID THAT
????
Cause Dragon's haki is the best
I hope it’s fake but still the doubt will remain in my head. And if we allow some guy to just come in here and send fake spoilers this will become chaos. Even if fake it can be dangerous
Loki devil fruit is the Lu Na Lu Na No Mi
Brand New World is such a good opening man. Makes you wanna have an adventure
so does zoro
zoro does not
ok so does luffy
It is yes, so fake spoilers are also not allowed.
However i can guarantee you that spoilers are not out anywhere.
not advanced in all forms yes
shanks got it all and then some
no one cares if you only have all 3 base forms anymore

But my Sengoku upscale...
Ok thanks. I hope you’re right. But still I still see messages being sent by that person
Mihawk has greater Haki than shanks because it's stated he has better swordsmanship in the manga. And swordsmanship includes haki 😹
He will probably get a warn for posting fake spoilers 
I do
we have see shanks use all pretty much all the advanced forms, see him use haki in ways others haven't and been compared to jopyboy directly in terms of strength. thewre is even a form of observation we know he has but have not seen anyone use, grantyed I am assuming it's under observation
Joyboy probably had a Devil Fruit so no
not how that works at all
It is how it works
but shanks has a sword so he cant be a haki man either
Exactly
At least the way I define it I allow swordsmen to be called Hakimen
if haki isnt an aspect of swordsmanship why is zoro using haki?
But maybe Im different
I hope so
Shanks fans are dumb 
hakiman doesnt exist in the manga
because he needs to hit harder
what?
The real WSS can only be determined in a haki-and-killing-not-allowed one on one sword fight.
Now hold on. I thought seperating Haki from swordsmanship was also a Mihawk fan tactic

it goes both ways
Thats why there's the "Youre using too much Haki blud" meme
why would u
Ok if I have to give explanation. Khalid D Kizaru said that Spoilers of this chapter will be out relatively early this time hence I went to google and searched for it and posted the link here and asked him if they were true but before he was able to read that you came and said that it isn't allowed so I deleted it. Everything was fine till here ig.
But then you can say I made a mistake cause I just teased you by saying about that stuff. Ig it that thing affects you that much I apologise.
Also deleting this as well aftrr few mins 😂😂
agenda aside bud
It's a shanks fan tactic 
Haki and Swordsmanship are separate
Haki is used in tandem with swordsmanship but it is 2 completely different things. One is a innate power and the other is a fighting style
we dont understand what u mean by this
Carrot will join
one is a vague statement that can have a few interpretations and one is just learn haki
Wait what? No liquor to zoro until he make a black blade? Why is he drinking all this time?
They're teaching Haki to a swordsmen? Isn't that obvious 😭💔
Glad you are back vain
Canonically I like Shanks and Mihawk both.
keep it up
bro u not in the story wym canonically😂😂
There are very few mihawk fans compared to shanks fans
mindless drones
Same. I honestly like shanks more than mihawk.
Mihawk is cool
their reasoning doesnt even make sense from an outsiders perspective
well both don't do very much
Im very mindful actually
this is correct
Mihawk clears in aura
Clears in drip
More cooler
Clears in strength
Better sword
Better skill
Recently we have seen shanks enough. Since post wano
😂
I haven't seen a single good argument from them about shanks being stronger 😭
yeah, shanks started moving since his 2 biggest threats were killed
ikr
It never left me
OP is the only story where fans are explicity told something and still refute it
Damn krome posting facts
But I’m still disappointed by Mihawk joining Buggy’s group. Imagine Shanks would join Cross Guild.
shnaks would never
they were always bums
all ur saying is people who use haki and dont have a df are hakimen, which isnt true
Lost to the strongest crew on the seas
so what do u consider Garp
shanks surrounds himself w deadbeats
Frauds!!!
beckman is a deadbeat so we can agree
a brawler
Yassop
So kidd lost his arm to a deadbeat
yes
like it doesn’t make sense. Mihawk wants a quite life. Yet he joins a group of marine hunters. Those guys he doesn’t want to deal with.
which makes kid a double deadbeat
shanks fans being immoral isnt suprising tbh
To be honest, i have encountered more kidd fans after his defeat against shanks than before. Ideally it should be otherway around 
I had to support kid during those dark times
Kidd is overhated
indeed
to maintain balance
kidd is better than law too
it would make more sense for Mihawk to joing the WG
nah kidd fans were annoying
js law looks better so hes glazed
Kidd gets hate because he lost to a top 5 character 😭💔
This is the most inaccurate statement ive ever heard

some of his hate isn’t justified
I think he gets hate because he acts like a MC and people don't wanna accept that since they only want luffy to act like that
what’s wrong with a pirate being confident
Im lying
is he supposed to cower😂
yet law looses to a character that is currently weaker than shanks and is still praised
Kidd is a bootleg Luffy who was bullied in school and subscribed to toxic masculinity
2026 and we're still debating these archaic match ups
Cause Law did good
And made it out better in the end
just because a number changed doesnt mean anything different
Yeah it's pretty stupid 😭
cook up
unfortunately
Fr
It doesn't make sense 💔
Whatever kidd did, if luffy did the same they would have hyped luffy
if u hate kidd u need to hate law as well
Law did atleast something against bb but Kidd 😭😭
i’m not gonna go into detail but there’s a powerscaling argument from dbz that’s been going on since the manga ended in the 90s
if yall think any of these arguments ever gonna end good luck😂
law would've got one shot too
BB’s crew is all about cheap shots and getting the job done at all costs. Law had no chance of winning.
if u put law in kidd's exact position he doesnt survive either
there has to be something more enjoyable to discuss
Different objectives
Bb is trying to steal the poneglyphs from law, not to kill law.
Shanks trying to kill kidd because he attacked his allies in the future he saw
subjective
like shamrock
he’s tough
only cause of his voice actor
what's enjoyable about going back and forth about two characters who are probably never going to fight anyways
Elbaph has been blowing my expectations ngl.
ppl do this irl w their opinions
it's been great
@muted hedge do u think shamrock will get out of the deep sea or deep deep sea contract whichever one he has
my siblings in christ that whole thing was to show neither of them are worthy of being emperors, if they switched places the outcome would've been the same
or is his fate kinda sealed
I think it's already reaching my top 5
no idea, i'm just a firm believer that some sort of redemption is on the way for him
No
whats ur top 5
lets discuss how beautiful this cover looks
shamrock likes his job
i'm on the hunt for vol. 113
i need it
hes shows up early to work and leaves late
It will get a rush ending
you buy japanese volumes?
While its not impossible for shamrock to have a redemption. We have no reason to think he has the intention to
i mean, if keep losing to top tiers over and over again, that means they themselves aint top tiers
shamrock willingly does unpaid overtime for Imu, hes not a good guy
- WCI
- Enies Lobby
- Wano
- Marineford
- Water 7
i try to wait for the english but i might with this one
Yeah people need to stop delusions about shamrock turning good
I hope not 😭💔
WCI island over marineford is suprising
it’s gonna end within the next 5 years
I mean I probably would as well if VIZ screws up the cover
the biggest lead is his dying mothers wish
she wished for Shamrock and Shanks to be raised by great men
if u consider that rushed then that’s where it’s headed
Remove wano
I just enjoyed it better.
They're all interchangeable honestly.
I though WCI was a better experience in the anime than the manga
if u ignore pacing ofc

I really enjoyed wano.
It has the highest peaks in all of one piece.
The lows are pretty bad, but the highs just outshine the lows.
to me the anime is overall always a better experience than the manga.
chopper as big of a bum as yuta
no
dressrosa was so bad
even pacing aside i didnt enjoy it
While that might be the idea. I feel like Shamrock instead is going to show the sheer difference between being raised as a CD and by a normal person like Roger. Thats why I do not think he will turn good. Its a good juxtaposition of Shanks' character
Irrespective of how many highs, no other arc has as bad as wano in lows
shhh, we don’t speak about Dressrosa here
Yuta?
too niche for you
Hey no OS
Dressrosa felt like a raid on Epstein island
I thought he meant Uta for a second
not quite
well, that's certainly possible
i'm personally more involved in the idea that Shamrock will end up hearing up to his mothers dying wish and possibly turn on the delusion which he has been brought up in
So characters who aren’t top tiers losing to top tiers…
1x name reference isnt illegal
I think a lot of arcs have way worse lows than wano.
thriller bark, FMI, Punk hazard, Whiskey peak etc.
These all have lower lows than wano.
you have been warned
Is Katakuri a clown cuz he’d lose to top tiers
He's a bum
ultimately he is Imu’s toy
Agree to disagree then
Sure
Who is calling kata bum? I have to defend him
I was jk.
He's a cool character.
I like Punk Hazard because of the opening music.
unfortunately yeah, but i think that there will be a way of breaking lose from the control
WCI island felt like a movie in the anime
One piece is dead
Shanks will probably hit him real hard
the song was so catchy
Experience it weekly
This is exactly why most people hate wano.
not what i had in mind but sure
yh weekly maybe not
I don't watch anime so idk what you talking about 
Wano was decent. I liked the animation style.
yh
Shit aura
i prefer wano animation style over egghead tbh
i prefer the manga
what had you in mind?
I think wano was great. Particularly, because of the highs it has.
Pre ts animation is better
Same
nostalgia blindness
something more abstract
though i prefer the character designs pre ts
same as well. Egghead had jelly legs but overall the style does fit that arc
Not really, pre ts animation focussed on what is needed unlike current ones who shows more bazongas than manga
true
there's rarely any time where i prefer the anime over the manga
objection bazongas are needed
I HATE THAT.
It just looks so chopped on some characters.
on egghead it was overdone imo
The animators loved pre-ts too, because there was zero frames per second.

Luffy is too strong. A Gear 4.5 would have been better.
all op characters got surgery over the ts
i disagree
luffy isnt even the strongest yonkou lol
a gear 4,5 just sounds stupid
Luffy will probably run into serioues walls in the endgame fights
Luffy achieving gear 5 is his freedom taking form
I mean the only drawback of Gear 5 is the time limit.
it's more so the stamina
there will be more drawback when he fights Imu face to face and/or BB
but even then it's not just going to bulldoze anything, we saw it troubled against Topman for example
semantics
I would like new Gear 4 variants. Like Tigerman, or Lionman, or sharkman, you get the point.
But we prolly won't get them.
even if luffy had infinite g5 he isnt the strongest yonkou
i think that gear 5 is the perfect form for Luffy
Gear 5 is thematically perfect
no need of he can transform into anything he wants
theoretically anyway
because he used Gear 3 against Warcury
A new gear itself was unnecessary in wano.
He could have defeated kaido with ACoC with will power.
In enies lobby when he unlocked gear 2 it was not enough and he got semi-defeated but still he won with gear 2 because of will power. Too many powerups in wano made the power go up dractically for no reason
he was in gear 5
bad take tbh
It seems that to Oda, however, a new Gear was necessary.
u sure?
I don't think its because gear 5 is needed. He wanted to include nika in wano
yes when he did the one on Warcurys face
He used Gear 3 on warcury
good thing it was a giant fucking fist that beat him
He used G3 and G5
he did one on the top of Topman, then another one where it hit his face
the one where he hit his face he was in gear 5
what form is luffy in when he does this btw
the one on top was gear 3
ah yes g5
Oda could have let ACOC be enough if he wanted
wasn’t he in Gear 3 when he hurt himself while punching Warcury?
He wanted Gear 5 in Wano is all
Bajrang Gun
yeah that was when he punched the top of Warcury
hes still in g5
bajrang gun is a move
Ik
same way as jet pistol is a move
though he also hurt his hand when he punched Warcurys face, as he was in gear 5
Ik, Im agreeing
Warcury is just built different 😭💔
holy knights was given the aura of top tiers
🙂
but they are frauds
he went extreme diff w kaido in g5
you follow?
how is he beating him without it
Joy Piece has returned!
Yeah cause Oda wrote Kaido to be that strong.
seems like it's some sort of barrier almost, similair to what domi reversed Xebec had
i got a chopper in the car
Oda was right with introducing gear 5 in wano it was just so peak 
this is such a dumb statement
Go to sleep

It's not even 10
luffy is not beating kaido in a fair 1v1
Yeah
It's prolly the benefit of being a Gorosei
And thus created Gear 5 which was enough to finish Kaido. The final blow before Kaido killed him, Luffy said it would be his last atttempt. Gear 5 gave him what he needed. Now, you may not like it, and that's fine. Even I have retcon issues with Nika, but Oda is the author here not me. He knows what's best for his story.
But if he wanted to write a Wano where ACOC Luffy in G4 beat Kaido I dont think we'd be very confused about it
I was just thinking... I think there's an Oda break after next chapter
true
Stop thinking
here it is when he was in gear 5 by the way
it wouldn't make sense at all
still got hurt
Luffy wasn’t in fight mode there tho. He was in escape mode. A serious Gear 5 Luffy make meat out of Warcury and eat him.
krome said there might be 4 back to back chapters 
well the other gorosei don't seem to share it
what is a "serious" g5 luffy
impossible
i'm sorry but i can't take you seriously when you say that he wasn't in fight mode
That's true ngl.
I assume Luffy was not bringing his absolute best against the Gorosei, though surely he tried.
Yeah it would. He was clashing with Kaido in base form lol
omg
what?
there will be no less then 3 straight chapters starting from this week
A barian gun Luffy or however you spell it
g5
since there was a magazine break, new year break, a chapter and then oda break?
kaido was holding back until luffy went g5
Yes, i agree its his story but its okay to criticize when you feel there can be a better approach or better way to handle certain things.
If we exclude nika, in terms of power level i feel like gear 5 was not needed. He was on par with kaido and going toe to toe with kaido with gear 4 ACoC before cp0 interrupted
Luffy brings his everything it's not like he'd make a weaker punch just cause he was planning to escape, if anything that would just make him put more force into it to make sure he'd have an easier time escaping
he was literally running away from Warcury with the giants
his everything might include something like Bajrang
luffy lost to kaido many times
lmao what
what you said still doesn't make sense
Luffy's plan was to force Warcury back so that they could escape him
kaido was holding back
This doesn't mean he was holding back?
After 1 chapter we will get sudden 1 month break
I think he’s gonna give us at least 2 chapters before another break
escaping requires him to beat up Warcury lol, thats why he was attacking him, he was just failing at doing anything
theres no way on a power perspective that luffy can output enough with just g4 and acoc
kaido had the island to lift, but we may never know what that actually cost him. i think we just assume
Sure, Oda could’ve made Kaido a G4 victim but he felt that wasn’t enough
to beat kaido
And hes right
You arent understanding what Im saying. If Oda wanted ACOC to be the powerup for the arc, he would have had it so Kaido wasnt holding back by then
I'd like that, but I don't have my hopes up
G4 beating Kaido never felt enough

if oda wanted ussop to be pk he would, so what
Kaido felt like he had more in the bag
he actually released more chapters in 2025 then the previous 2 years but it didn’t feel that way to me😂
Drunk kaido is his serious state
also if Kaido wasnt holding back agaisnt g4 luffy how is he going extreme diff against g5 luffy. Unless you guys are saying g5 isnt much stronger than g4
thats the only way ur reasoning can make sense
Thats not the same lol
well it’s not hard to see that a ready to kill Luffy would have put more effort in fighting Warcury off than a Luffy who was escaping. Warcury would not survive a Barian Gun
I'm not talking about the story where we have G5 ofc. Its a hypothetical
humans are greedy by nature... we always want more 
based on what we know, luffy cant beat kaido without g5
luffy doesnt even beat a fresh kaido rn
Yes give us 5 chapters oda
Kaido said it, he never went serious fight untill he fought luffy
A bajrang gun isn’t killing a single gorosei

Warcury would most definitely survive
Oda does 3 chapters after wsj break. He usually takes break early pre wsj break to avoid 2 week break
ye because they’re immortal duh
Yeah but u said Warcury wouldn’t survive
lmao
well warcury might just regenerate unless Bajrang + ACOC can disintegrate, but then again we don't know if they can come back from nothingness
Definitely not enough
the next break is going to be in february
Luffy need to boost his acoc game
no indication it can
Dorry and Brogy implied they were wiped without a trace
Ancient haki is the only wY
I mean it would knock him out
And yet they still came back
It would not either
Thats because that 2 years had 1 month break
Why would it knock him out
chapter soon
you missed the 10th day squirrel posting
thursday chapter for tcb maybe friday
Nah
yes
guys how do i submit my art? i drew luffy but mid
I was looking at panels yesterday after Luffy reflected Saturn's poison bombs back at them. I don't remember seeing them regenerate from nothing, only that they were regenerating some damage.
bruh, Warcury was literally forced out of his beast state by 900 year old haki stored in a knot. Luffy is the reincarnation of Joyboy. He would absolutely knock the lights out of Warcury with a fresh haki infused Barian Gun
It's not even 11th yet
If you are an artist and want embeds for art, DM a staff member with a sample of your artwork and ask for the artist role.
if the chapter is really good u gonna see them talking ab it tmrw
!artists
If you are an artist and want embeds for art, DM a staff member with a sample of your artwork and ask for the artist role.
Send it to buffy dm, he will post here giving you credits 
I am outside your house.
ik, but i drew after about 2-3 years
drawing is always nice
thanks man
Warcury is smaller than Kaido here. He would be finished if he eats that Barian Gun.
Post it
Use the manga, not the anime. But it ultimately doesn't matter, 'cause Oda messes with sizes.
let me get the role
prob how imu will be beaten
bajrang gun is so absurd like bro how large is that fist

Dorry and Brogy comment on it, they imply they were wiped without a trace in certain translations, usually cuz it has multiple meanings
holy crap ( better than pisscaso)
Are you saying luffy is ass?
scotch hasn’t spoke ab a chapter since 1167, 3 chapters ago
In feeling quite juicy today
No u
Thanks
wall e
Joyboy Haki =/= Luffy’s Haki. Luffy can’t do what Joyboy did currently, bad comparison
none of them been buckle up worthy
i was checking tcb yesterday, perhaps viz has a different meaning
peak movie
Stussy drank that right?
it’s not like the series is in its last stages. Luffy will absolutely surpass Joyboy.
Sanji did because hes desperate

From what I found
We’re talking about Egghead Luffy tho
And Egghead Luffy can’t kill or knock out Warcury. Best shot is sending him really far away
Wtf when is the next chapter
You think that 900 year old Haki in the know it stronger than what Luffy can bring to the table?
yet for some odd reason it is still hideous
Next week
Haki wise? Absolutely

If Luffy could haki flex away 5 Gorosei’s, he would’ve done it in egghead
Hes not built like that rn
it failed to do anything to Luffy whereas the Gorisei were turned back
Because it wasn’t targeted on Luffy or the good guys
It wasn’t hostile
As dorry and brogy said
Joy Boy’s Haki is Luffy’s Haki
No
And maybe never
Luffy will eventually reach the Haki he has 800 years ago, don’t worry

wym he had
he’s only 19😂
anyways, the point is, Luffy is not only a haki wifi router unlike the knot
Thats different from saying joyboys haki is luffys haki
because shuron is a luffy is future joyboy believer
SUPEr MID
Like literally
The “he” in that sentence refers to Luffy
Honesty impact
what should i make next?
Sanji
Blackbeard emitting aura
usopp
nah that's pretty hard for me :( sorry
i'll try sanji and then usopp
ill update you :D
I'll be waiting
Loki choking ragnir between his legs
its fine, its hard to draw greatness
and this is some kink
?!
If Koby can be as strong as he is couldn't anyone?
She's hot

bro i started drawing after 2-3 years, but i'll still try tho 
Nice
Aren't they pretty much the same except one has bigger everything
Lokis mom is the biggest mom even bigger than big mom
yes
but bigger doesn’t always mean better

Sigh
Khalifa beat Sanji. Lokis mom lost to a cold
fair point
Actually I wonder if she died to the 5 day sickness that Nami caught
Cold >>>>>> Sanji
Simple as that
there’s a big chance the flashback ends this chapter
So cold >>>> magma?
No
Yes
I think we'll see Loki vs Shanks in the flashback there's still a lot to cover
What
We haven't even addressed Lola yet
no
2 more chapters
Since cold>>>>sanji and sanji can counter magma.
it’s alr been 20 chapters
why do we need lola to understand harald's death
enough is enough
And it will be 22 chapters
Why did we need Shakky?
none of the things yall are saying will be shown now are relevant to what hajrudin asked loki
they will be shown at the right time
Well Loki’s motives now matter
Lola is pretty important
when loki has to tell luffy where shanks is at the end of the arc, then we will see their scuffle
that was when the narrator took over but now we know fs loki is back
Considering Lola spurning Loki is what cost Big Mom the giants
look, Lola rejected Loki. ez. gg. end of story.
We know why Loki did it, knowing what he did after and what he tried to do is pretty important as well
goodbye lola
How did our father die? Foolish little big brother. Our father never died. For it is only when one is forgotten that they are truly gone.
What lead to him getting captured by Shanks is relevant
Unless we are just pretending that didn’t happen now 
it's all about father/daughter reunions now with Lola
I hope he goes on his rampage because Lola rejects him and not Harald dying
Would be funny
Loki is telling the flashback so him omitting himself getting rejected and Shanks beating him is on brand
another incel bites the dust
I thought they reunited in cover story 
this is a precursor to Incelmu
they did, now they must rekindle the familial flame
He is only mentioning the part where his dad died
good point actually
that may be proof enough we don't get the other parts of his life
however
the narrator already hjacked the story once for Rocks
Flashbacks always doesn't necessarily include the exact point needed. It covers all the stuff which oda want to show to audience
“How did you know the parts you weren’t there for?”
the chapter will tell us if it's over, not any of these filthy degenerate leakers
Which is why it is unlikely that the narrator wld do it again
I'm not trusting worstgenhq
you may be right about this. i'm cool with this. i'm ready for present day fighting
Most of this flashback is stuff Loki wasn’t there for. Not just Rocks.
Wocks
Hewwo Wocks D. Zebwek
you're gonna still be waiting
The first thing we ever knew about Loki and the only thing we knew for like 20 years was Lola rejecting him. I would be amazed if Lokis flashback the longest flashback in One Piece history doesn't address it.
we're gonna have to sideline Hajrudin for Usopp, his god.
Nononono
They are both gonna shine

another good point. so we've come to an impasse: Loki is only telling the story about Harald's death, but we've seen the narrator take over to showcase Rocks's story. It's 50/50 we're getting it at this point, since it feels like the flashback is coming to a close soon. But who knows, you might get lucky and see both Lola and the fight with Shanks and Loki.
If he was in block D it was probably Hakuba. But he gets beat and joins the crew of the guy who whipped him while asleep?
Since rebecca uses a sword, mihawk can beat rebecca
She’s a swordswoman not swordsman
And from zoro’s flashback we know swordswomen >>>> swordsmen
I think it won't take much time to go through quickly on loki side of things post incident. Another flashback just to address it is headache
Rebecca is Usopps daughter. A lie come to life. The beautiful female swordsman carrying lots of meat
I can imagine Loki even just saying "yeah and BM's daughter rejected me. I didn't handle it well. Anyways...."
that's how Oda saves time lmfaoooo
Only when they are kids, as kuina mentioned as they become adults they cannot stay strong
What would be even funnier is if Oda never addresses the Lola thing
Thats fine, either address it now or don't bother with another flashback for it
I feel like we need more. The marriage with Loki was very important for big mom. Loki letting someone into his life is very big for Loki especially with the death of his real mother and him killing his father. And we know Lola throws herself at pretty much everyone so there should be an explanation as to why not Loki.
Put lola stuff in sbs please oda
I'm more interested in loki vs shanks, i feel like there is more to it than simple fight. There could be more context on why they fought
Socrates is also interested in Loki vs Shanks. Every ounce of pride he has is on the line with that one.
The heaven giants opposed Harald marrying Ida why would they be ok with their new king Loki getting with big moms daughter?
His reasons are different, he want it to be some sneak attack from shanks 
Perhaps an emperor has far more sway than some circus performer?
This chapter infers Loki is way stronger than I would have assumed otherwise so I'm also interested more in the Shanks loki capture
if that happens I'll lose the bet

In any event there is still a lot more I want to see from the Loki flashback
Who is emperor here?
"Shanks used poison" is my favorite answer from him
BM
or was she not an emperor during these days?
I really hope we do get shanks murdering people with poison, that would be dope
Big Mom should be an emperor at this point in the flashback
oh wait wait
wait
now that i think about it. considering BM's childhood rampage, yeah, wtf would they ever marry Loki to Lola?
We don't know. But this is the best chance to find out
i was thinking "yeah, maybe a marraige pact with an emperor is a more enticing offer than Harald and Ida - who was just a nobody circus performer from their perspective?" but BM's childhood throws a wrench in this.
The killing part is the reason she still didn't have giants in her territory
muh queen
Thats definitely why
it was that evil shanks and gaban that was plotting behind the scenes
But Rebecca’s a minor so she’s still stronger than Mihawk as of now
Big Mom is still an enemy of the state. She is the last person I would expect a king of elbaf to have a relation with given the context
BM is an enemy of nothing anymore. Goda.
Ohhh, good point but still mihawk can defeat rebecca extreme diff
Still wild 5 year old BM threw elbaf into chaos
5-year old BM, how do we scale her?
Loki level
I think he needs to get a second and third sword before he even tries to beat Rebecca
About 3m tall
cannot be contained
newborn Loki vs 5-year old BM? @dense haven thoughts?
i hope loki's VA is also auraful
Rebecca was in a battle Royale with BBs commander, Dragons commander, Doffys commander (yeah we don't really care about him), and Luffys honorary commander and she didn't even get touched.
That was 63 years ago, was harald behaviour turned at that time?
Weighting a woping 3000 pounds at age 5
didn't caramel say kid bm is as strong as an admiral or something

rebecca gets trained by her father kyros
she ain’t strong but she ain’t weak either
Did Rebecca fight on the same block as Burgess? I dont think she did.
she can probably cook fodders
We don't know how strong admirals were back then. Rocks killed one
Does kyros has haki?
Yes
Rebecca fought in the finals with Burgess Sabo Bart and Diamante
And she didn’t even bother using haki or attacking in any way. She was playing around
Oh wait, rebecca also has haki
Um i like to imagine harald was dead
Don't have timeline for this in mind
Kyros beheaded Doflastringo
Yep
She fought in the final
Yea i remember now
Rebecca fought in the coliseum for years and was undefeated
I can dig it
Obv she wasn't talking about her "political" approach here
So it must be her strength muhehehe
Considering she has haki yes
you mean the crew that has more than half of its member without haki? the thing they need to beat the final boss army? surely not
She beats anyone not named Luffy
Rebecca has mantra and that's not really enough to win
man i love how disgusted Gaban was with the lack of haki training from SH
I promise you I dont give a damn
Yama had mantra and Robin crushed her
Talking about mantra in the big 2026
"Dang. It's all degenerate harem anime....."
bro watched steins gate i cant hate on him no longer
least interesting thing i've seen today
this just measn Usopp will use dials on Elbaf
peak shit
Yo, Usopp gets Ragnir and slaps 20 dials on the hammer's face
steins gate mentioned but at what cost
Usopp lost his dials along with his fun attacks
No more hammer no more rubber band of Doom no more egg star or ketchup star
remember when Musk was trying to act like a weeb xd
Do you think Kaido could have handled Usopp spell? We'll never find out
nooooo trust me Usopp has secret dials he's been hiding for elbaf. do it oda, you coward. i dont' care if it's a retcon
Usopp speciality is he doesn't carry forward his new unlocked potentials 
He uses it and forget it ever exists
bro usopp is a good character
but he’s fodder
Won't be anymore
idk why fans insist he must be strong
he's getting conqs soon
How many soldiers did Kaido have? Was it 30,000?
peak writing from oda
he fucked up this one royally unless there's a bootleg version of legend of galactic heroes
the whole thing that makes usopp character liked by many is his relatability
God imagine if there was a currently active yonko that carried a do-nothing companion with no powers because he likes them for who they are instead of what they do
Because niggas won't stfu
whats this one
is it some ecchi shit?
Was I reading a mistranslation or didn't Luffy knock out 50,000 people at once at Fishman island
the kabuto has dials in it but its like never talked about
one of the best animes I've watched
or at least the pre ts one did
He will fight with chestnuts
He was about to write guardians of galaxy and then replaced galaxy with galactic hero's
I mean it's not even bad if he gets stronger
how did he fuck up then i dont get it
it's a plus anyway
he got the name wrong
i ain’t gonna lie he does get too much hate
like ppl think he should die just because he isn’t strong
seems about right
that’s crazy ash
oh looool
Yea this is why I stopped caring what other people think
lot of fans nowadays measure a character by their strength
and not what they represent
That reminds me, lets powerscale
Usopp Hajrudin and loki soon
Who wins this yonkou commanders fight
it's hard being a vasco shot fan
wtf😭😭
Mojji fought Cabaji to a draw and Cabaji almost killed Zoro
Specially knowing he’ll lose to carrot
The sex pest?
Vasco shot was Yamatos boyfriend right?
This has nothing to do with the point krome is making 
he has rizz, but I don't know if I would call him that
He has cool powers hasn't been able to capitalize on them yet though
He has cool nose but hasn't been able to capitalize on it
The dude who joked about "playing" with Boa? Yea I bet.
how so? he's neither strong (compared to all the glazed characters) or represents anything good
People don't hate vasco shot because of his strength though
how do u feel about doc q
the main reason people dislike some of the strawhats primarily has to do with their strength level
now there’s other reasons like sanjis gag with women for example but the main thing i see is people calling the strawhats bums and useless jus because they don’t have haki. I think they all should have haki especially as a yonko crew but u can’t tell me someone like Nami is useless when she is the best navigator in the world. Most of the strawhats are actually the best or one of the best in whatever role they are in
The ability to turn booze into any element you want is crazy. He can make gold and buy a country. He can create poisons or explosions with nothing more than spit
honestly I don't feel much
his df was so nerfed
I like vasco because he's a degenerate piece of shit, and because he looks ugly
You didn't know?
nah cause there’s someone else who sends that too i think
i didn’t know who it came from
He is better than orochi and spandom
average powerscaler
usopp is genuinely irritating at times and so is sanji with his gag, but yeah I don't dislike any of the SHs otherwise, just kinda bored of half the crew
honestly I like those two as well
He can do that? I just remember him using it to light things on fire
I still remember watching the early egghead episodes, hearing usopp constantly yelling in fear and wanting to blow out my eardrums

perona slaps tho. I'd feel bad
i mean u don’t like him for valid reasons like things that has to do with his character which is fine because everyone has opinions
hating someone just because they aren’t strong is another case entirely and is crazy to me😂😂
She has other emotes. No bbp has emotes
Carrot pog doesn't even look like pog

Perona made Luffy give up his dream

Wheres the greenbull emote
Hax devil fruits are dangerous more so than even haki
We have a greenbull emoji??
When are we getting :sanjuan drink:
But add has devil fruits with haki and you become basically invincible
yeah, and I actually like how oda was able to make usopp shine despite being the relative weakest in the crew back in pre-timeskip, same way I think now there can be ways to have him shine without forcing conqueror's haki or whatever
Where is my nami notes emoji 
But none of the cool ones have emotes
oh it's removed
valid... unless you count BB
Kuzan is the coolest one
This must be like a tank to him

You must love usopp in Wano

with this
