#also-manga

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trim lily
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zoro settles down to become an awful teacher like his mentor

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With Luffy

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Woop Slap and his son Bonk Punch

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The lurking legends

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Zoro is just going to be a nomad

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i hate that guy

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thick mango
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bonk punch is such an incredible name

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hazy echo
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anyway tashigi will be beating zoro in the epilogue

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I love how this is the one plot point that every fan can come together on and hate.

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I think King can... make amends..

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Somehow..

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Baccarat, Gunko, Boa Hancock, Big Mom, Nico Robin, Sugar, & Perona all have very strong devil fruit powers

celest mauve
spice cairn
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Hes going to surprise Sanji with a new uncle and its just Ceasar

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Baccarat is film only?

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Uta too I’d say

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yeah

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celest mauve
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baccarat is extremely strong

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baccarat is a pair of sentient boobs

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spice cairn
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What is Baccarats fruit

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though i guess she might be weak to like enviromental damage

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Ive never seen a film

celest mauve
trim lily
glacial bear
trim lily
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yeah

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Just like completely change their luck?

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Thats fucking stupid

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But funny

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Thats my dream fruit

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i dont remember if she has to like directly take it

celest mauve
glacial bear
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She tried it on Luffy & Sanji and Luffy had terrible stomach ache and Sanji’s cigarette burned him on fire

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Does she have to touch you?

glacial bear
celest mauve
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fan service in general was something else in that movie

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Oh ok so its not too bad

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Does Teech have it?

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its kind of like big mom where you have to build it up

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What if thats the hidden 3rd fruit

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trim lily
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i dont remember enough about gold for that lol

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trim lily
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i think she just cons people into betting big at the casino after winning then stealing the luck back

glacial bear
spice cairn
glacial bear
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Or Alabasta's really

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This will be a dumb question but is she like evil?

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There’s also Mr Tanaka, his devil fruit is okay but he feels like an Usopp opponent

brittle basin
spice cairn
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Toei tends to do this unfortunately

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film gold had a lot of very good outfits

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ez

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gg

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Yeah but they could've went back to roots

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Film Gold was alr

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kinda swagged up

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Film Gold
Everyone is dressed in White

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????

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glacial bear
hot cairn
trim lily
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dice was a bit a freak

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Ussop's surname

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Sorry autocorrect somehow turned ussop into Jason

celest mauve
trim lily
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oh yeah dice didnt even have a fruit

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Is she strong enough to swim and carry him tho?

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he was just a masochist

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Film Gold is awesome

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tesoro best movie villian

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best is pushing it but he is good

hot cairn
celest mauve
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bullet is the funniest movie villain

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hes so comedically basic

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Can I say something

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Zoro fans are not a fan of that movie

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Basically the plot of the movie was to save Zoro

celest mauve
trim lily
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oh yeah zoro was the princess for a bit

fast pagoda
spice cairn
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Ah so you are a shipper

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Give me damsel in disrress Zoro

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That makes sense. But its reasonable I suppose

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Nami is still going HOME though

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i think i see film gold and film z on the same level as my favourites

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for the post-strong world stuff

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Stampede is the first OP movie I watched so Im biased

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stampede is a bunch of dumb fun

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The turtles in the movie were cool too

fast pagoda
spice cairn
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I like all the cameos

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i also enjoyed film red but i wish it leaned into its stuff more

glacial bear
celest mauve
hazy echo
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Ya

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trim lily
hazy echo
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OP films LOVE to have cameos

fast pagoda
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shoutout to sabo and lucci being in film gold for a whole 2 minutes'

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But now I appreciate him

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they love their trailer bait

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Hes still so random though

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I think Nami is probably staying

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But I dont mind either way

celest mauve
glacial bear
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Im very indifferent to their fates barring Luffy and Zoro

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hot cairn
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I hope the story doesnt end with the crew disbanding and more like them sailing on for a new adventure that we wont see

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Nami is a sleeper agent

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The upcoming one piece movie should feature the god knights and Saint Sommers becomes the new punching bag instead of Saint Charlos QueenKEKW

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celest mauve
trim lily
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they probably wont have the knights but we might get gorosei-adjacent stuff

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Honestly I don't think we see a strawhat die

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conq cancer

hot cairn
trim lily
fast pagoda
small ember
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If they do disband they'll prob have a reunion every so often in some sorta epilogue

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brook should pass on by the end

celest mauve
glacial bear
spice cairn
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like brook being with laboon after so long

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Franky is 100% making his own business

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or robin potentially wanting to reinstate the ohara library

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something like that

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I think BB will grab Brook and he just dies for real

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Sanji opens his own restaurant

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Just becomes a normal spooky scary skeleton

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Zoro uhhh becomes a farmer like Mihawk

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siiiiiighs
So, y'all remember when Egghead was Franky's arc?

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I can see Chopper and Robin working together as co workers

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who

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Chopper the new king of Sakura Kingdom

small ember
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that's also another reason why I think nami is the only one I think is guaranteed to continue with luffy besides her literally talking about it, her world map depends on exploring the world

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egghead truly was the arc of missed opportunities

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fast pagoda
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Rightfully so

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Anime better make OG We Are and Memories the OP/ED for the very last arc

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Aloha!

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I could see Jinbe dying

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It would not surprise me if Oda brought him along as a sacrificial lamb

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Only Straw Hat that will die is Zoro for like a minute

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Jinbe sacrifices himself on the grill

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So he can have his moment where he talks to Kuinas ghost and gets lost in the afterlife and leaves

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Jinbei is still thinking about the situation btw

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small ember
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Jinbe has no dream, no traumatizing flashback

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He's just vibing and Oda can't accept that

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Thats kind of a lie isn't it

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Thats unfiltered slander

still mason
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It might be

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Jimbei's dream is basically human and fishman co-existence

native cloud
still mason
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Laugh Tale will be Jinbe's arc, trust

small ember
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We get all these epilogues and Kaido/BM just get cartoonish skeletons in magma

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Come on man QueenKEKW

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Booze gourd still floating

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What sound do you think Jinbes belly would make when you smack it

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👀

celest mauve
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Like a water bed

brittle basin
brittle basin
muted hedge
small ember
brittle basin
muted hedge
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that's Sham Wick to you

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they fucked up when they killed Sham Wick's slave

glacial bear
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Who was his slave

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#34985734985734987

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spice cairn
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Hina is the reason Smoker is still a marine guy btw

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Film Z definitely on my watchlist after Gold

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Pay respects to her

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Then stampede

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And the older one piece movies like chopper’s adventures or something

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hot cairn
celest mauve
hot cairn
celest mauve
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I was just trying to come up with reasons as to why some might leave

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ah

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usopp is the likeliest because of kaya

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and nami is on the opposite end of that spectrum

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Usopp could visit Kaya and then leave like Yasopp 😭

celest mauve
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the rest are in-between, probably likely to stay

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It could play out like a Gaban situation

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You could pay a visit to whoever

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Like he did with Crocus

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don’t think sanji will stay

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or franky

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I think the original 3 are staying

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Luffy, Zoro, & Nami

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Usually within the period of time when they started out

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celest mauve
celest mauve
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Im serious I read this somewhere hopefully im not crazy

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Doc Q however..

celest mauve
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I was literally searching it up

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yeah

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Yeah Hina is sort of his younger but more responsible sister when you think about it

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I do like that Oda added some dynamic of friendship in the SBS

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sorry

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Ill be the one to go against it.

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Doc Q will win the doc wars

formal wagon
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fishbonen is the world's strongest doctor

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Chopper isnt really ready for the big leagues

formal wagon
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he's diagnoses haki FREQUENTLY

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Oni virus is baby stuff compared to making exploding apples

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its very presitgious to diagnose haki

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chopper doesn't even know what haki is

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so he can't diagnose it

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Chopper doesn't even know how to do any exams on health

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chopper

dense haven
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chopper is a fraud

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If you tell him what ligma is he'd fall for it

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man chopper haters pmo

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"man chopper haters pmo"

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What qualifies as a chopper hater exactly

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jagged notch
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Like in what way

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Like do we have to hate everything about him

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Or like we can dismiss his medical feats because chads like Doc Q and Fishbonen are much more qualified

jagged notch
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Theres a lot of annoying characters so Chopper to me, is whatever

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However I dont want to come off as that guy, but Chopper doesnt do it for me anymore even though his Wano contribution was very awesome

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But I went from being very enthusiastic about Chopper to just sheer indifference

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I definitely don't "hate" him though because hate is generally just a very strong word to use on someone like Chopper.

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Theres like, 1 or 2 characters I genuinely hate in One Piece without any irony or sarcasm

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name them

jagged notch
grand flower
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Who told you niggas time piece was off the table

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I mean hes a main character so I mean its a big deal

jagged notch
remote maple
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the straw hats are background characters the main characters are the arc specific characters

grand flower
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But I genuinely just can't particularly have any strong attachment to him

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I loved him in Thriller Bark

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I loved him in Enies Lobby

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I even loved him in Skypeia

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I don’t hate him but I ain’t gonna say I find it relatable lol

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This where Usopp’s goated cause he’s the most human

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Mostly due to them being genuine pieces of shit within the story so its a very basic vanilla take

jagged notch
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I like him a bit in Wano's act 3.

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in the later timeskip arcs some characters barely do anything

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Because he actually does really cool doctoral feating

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And I liked him in Punk Hazard

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Me when a Luffy x Boa shipper is genuinely furious they arent married with kids in the final chapter:

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Boa is not getting married to Luffy

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That is the biggest copium

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More than Lunami

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Sorry folks Luffy doesn't even know what Valentines Day is.

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Yeah I don’t see Boa ending up with Luffy romantically

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But I do see her somehow getting over the love sickness maybe?

spice cairn
# spice cairn And I liked him in Punk Hazard

Punk Hazard really felt like the final hurrah for the type of character he was pre TS and his interactions within the arc was very great and drives home why he was unironically one of my favorite SHs on my first read

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Like she can be the first to realize she doesn’t need him & can move on

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Like not need a man. Yeah it’ll hurt but- she’ll survive

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I think shes in love with the type of person Luffy is and not necessarily the character itself

jagged notch
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This is a character that has suffered tremendously and Luffy is probably one of the few men in her lifetime that actually wasn't instantly on her.

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So that ideal person is what makes her feel this way

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And not in the ship way

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But thats probably just a HC thing I took within the story because Oda is playing up mostly for laughs.

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What a stupid ship

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Kids Ship mogs this one for days

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Shanks unironically thinks this passes as a ship.

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the one that got split in half by a hakiless attack

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Yeah but it was fucking cool man

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I like the Oro Jackson and Law Submarine

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The raft will be the best one

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Looks goofy

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It does not past Indigex

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THIS though is amazing

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Simple yet effective

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How the fuck do you even get into the cannon room

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i'm a log ship hater

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Marin thats messed up

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It took 3 days to make this raft

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to me its like everyone made an effort and BB just whipped something up fast

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very disrespectful

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Yeah Teech is a grand lifestyler

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but BB as a whole is on fraud alert for me after Rocks

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But sometimes you got to stick with the basics

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Hes probably not even a real D

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Probably only by name

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this not the same mf

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Does this really make sense?

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Im still sort of confused

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spice cairn
formal wagon
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naaaaaaaah

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Its smaller than pre TS

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Like how in any universe works like this

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Unless Chopper somehow found the cure of age immortality

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I fucking hate Oda for not making sense

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It all went to his head

mighty shell
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Literally

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Aloha!

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I dunno about Ragnir though

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Might be too hard for Oda to scale so he js wont do it well

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I'd hate to see a non-giant squirrel by the time we finish the arc

trim lily
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hes growing old and frail, his body shrinking

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oda 😭

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oda C_blood_sob

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Chekhov’s oda 😭

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But it just always bugged me

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Like him being fatter makes sense

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But tinier when he should definitely be a bit longer and with lankier arms and legs perhaps

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However again I guess it was for the appeal of Chopper

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Which it is what it is.

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Pikachu was also equally shot back in the backyard in an almost similar way

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What a weirdo

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Well I mean

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That im fine with

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Its the weird devolving that gets to me in a physical sense

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Senior Pink

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At least Pink acts like a man Chopper been like 10 years old for almost a decade

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Sometimes its funny to ragebait people by saying Bonney is more mature than Chopper is

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Or Tama for that matter

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Ok but tbh

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Chopper is def less mature than a lot of kids in OP

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Is it really ragebait if its true

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Chopper people think im murdering their grandmother but its true

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Chopper fans have history of being unstable

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chekhov's second giant sword

digital spear
digital spear
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cats aren't normally like that

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most cats are orange or blue

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i forgot russian blue cats

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they're hypoallergenic

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spice cairn
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Idk the context of the emoji

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I just thought having a blue cat emoji was funny

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When I was like like 16, I thought making things blue for no reason was funny

formal wagon
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this is a russian blue cat

fallen meteor
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looks like one of those monster hunter guys

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palico?

formal wagon
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this is a russian blue cat

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they'r'e hypoallergenic

fallen meteor
fallen meteor
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Green filter Oden my beloved

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If Ussop is green, can we make Nami Blue

formal wagon
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is that nami

spice cairn
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Lets just break the color dynamics

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from one piece

spice cairn
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Yeah its Nami from the hit series One Piece

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I think Nami is warming up to be a high tier SH for me generally alongside Jinbei and Sanji.

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Ah Ann.

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You're no Blue Nami..

sonic oasis
digital spear
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BLUE NAMI

spice cairn
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Oda was like "Yeah Blue Nami is cool, lets make her ORANGE"

digital spear
spice cairn
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Fairly sure this is a Toei character though

formal wagon
# digital spear BLUE NAMI

first cats now nami
you know they once called nami cat burglar
blue burglar
blue burger...
blue burgess.
goda.

digital spear
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No

spice cairn
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Im not super familiar with Romance Dawn's conceptuals

formal wagon
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bleu cheese

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goda

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Besides Garp appearing super early iirc and Nami being super different

digital spear
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Oda drew it before One Piece

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Except if you mean Toei colored her blue

spice cairn
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Yeah

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Idk what the canon prototype Nami color was

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I think Blue is the Toei thing right?

digital spear
spice cairn
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Nami canonically is a skinwalker

digital spear
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I dont remember Oda coloring Ann himself so maybe

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!mods warn this user

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Ah ok

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Now its making sense

formal wagon
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mods mod this user

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hi

spice cairn
final trench
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👀

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Nefertari nami???

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no

digital spear
formal wagon
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ann = lili

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silk = lili

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Ahhh ok ok

spice cairn
formal wagon
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balloon = imu

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GODA

spice cairn
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Does this mean Vivi wouldve been orange?

formal wagon
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my self refencing goat

digital spear
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Silk was Moda

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the best inspiration for a story is yourself

sage temple
digital spear
formal wagon
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refence your own mythology, allude to your own work

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bro spelled reference wrong 😭

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refence

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me when my fence falls down

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fr

digital spear
# sage temple He is

I dont really have a reason to believe that, hes most often the one who takes care of children if there are any

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Like if Chopper is with a child its not the child who takes care of him

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Punk Hazard

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Wano

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Egghead kinda if you count Bonney

spice cairn
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Punk Hazard

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Yeah bro just be as vague as possible

spice cairn
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He was helping Moccha and co

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He was very much mature during that segment

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Which was before the shitification hit

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I thought that was Nami

digital spear
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Just reread the arc bro he took care of them

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Yeah ok

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He was actively taken care of the kids and keeping them safe

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In Wano when O-Lin was around Chopper was the only one who thought of the danger of the situation while Momo and Tama were playing around

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spice cairn
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He was really great in Punk Hazard

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digital spear
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Well yeah

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Yeah but I guess the point is hes actually locking in

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That just means hes more mature than most children by virtue

formal wagon
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one piece should do this cool trope where they knock people out in one punch without any brain injury

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they could give luffy a cool nickname if he did that. guy who ends things in one punch

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one punch guy? idk i'm just spitballing here

fallen meteor
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one punch boy

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since he's not very mature

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when he gets older they can name him singular punch man

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One Hit Man ... wait this sounds like hes an assassin. But we are almost there

mighty shell
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single punch man?

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Solo Knock Person

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what the fuck is rell seas

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is this roblox

spice cairn
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Yeah

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Man I hate when I accidentally kill my friend I have to tell his family then and everything its so boring

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I found this while searching for Mocha gifs

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Wow Chopper raised Mocha well

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Now she is Whitebeard the yonko and takes care of many other people who need a family

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a decent chunk of them are probably dead from the payback war, kinda sad

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How many died from Burgress

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I need kill counts

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0

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2739191999005608712647

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trillion

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people

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Burgess killed Jozou

shadow remnant
digital spear
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Whitebeard died to Burgess hands

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Wait did Jozu ever get back up from this

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shanks probably goin down in a 10v1 like whitebeard

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I forgot if he genuinely did.

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Iirc we saw him at wb funeral

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Burgress practiced his aim in the mirror

digital spear
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Is there a single character stronger than Jesus Wurgess

spice cairn
digital spear
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Manga too

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Man that whole funeral skipped past me

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I just remember Marco and Shanks reflecting on it

digital spear
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Who cares anyway

spice cairn
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True fuck Jozu

digital spear
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Whitebeard died boo hoo get over it

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Oh you mean Jozu

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Well I mean

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Edward was on a timer anyways

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He was just a stepping stone for Burgress

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Ahh ok there he is.

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Did they like, do the Chopper to thaw him out or was Kuzan feeling merciful

shadow remnant
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He broke out with sheer will power

spice cairn
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I mean he probably died anyway from Payback war

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So its whatever

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Only one man can lose an arm and level up

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I wonder how many times his crew laughed at him for trying to use his left hand

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Was Shank's writing hand was the one ripped off?

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Shanks was left handed so I think so

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All that to lose to Loki and get saved by a 3rd party

thick mango
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i cant speak japanese so im going to conclude that this definitively proves mythic horse loki of some kind

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i do get having a favorite character but i think being so sure that a character that has been nonstop glazed in every appearance in the entire story is gonna get beaten by a character who has been in like 20 chapters is setting yourself for disappointment

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but im just as biased as you i guess just in other ways. im so sure shanks is gonna get beaten by bb that I dont believe any story beats that would be counter to that long term trend. Why is it unlikely shanks loses to loki? Cause it undermines the buildup towards losing to bb that has been going on the entire story in my interpretation

spice cairn
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Shanks is a lot more self aware of Teech to be surprised attacked

thick mango
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oh i was talking vs loki.

spice cairn
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Ooh

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Well yeah im with you

thick mango
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that i think shanks had a conventional victory towards loki cause losing to loki undermines the eventual loss to teach

frozen aspen
thick mango
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like if we just accept the assumption for a moment that bb will beat shanks, evil luffy defeating luffy's mentor and all that, paying off a long term connection between these two characters, etc. etc.
Think about how the result of the loki clash affects that.

  • if shanks beats loki, it further glazes shanks and makes bb's victory even more significant and impactful
  • If loki beats shanks and shanks has to get bailed out, then his loss to bb is more like 'whatever, whatd you expect, dude couldnt even beat loki'
    shanks beating loki elevates the bb moment. shanks losing to loki undermines it.
tranquil blade
frozen aspen
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how nice of him

frigid gulch
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That’s Goatbeard for you

sage temple
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Shanks could win it's wtv

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Loki winning would be a huge upset though and I'm all for that

thick mango
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thats fair/reasonable

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idk if ill be similarly reasonable if bb gets beat

spice cairn
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Ill be rejoiceful

thick mango
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for me BB represents the potential of how OP could be truly great, ill be so let down if thats squandered

spice cairn
thick mango
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i think hes been basically perfect up to this point and for the ending to drop the ball would be so disappointing

spice cairn
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I think Teech feels like a kid still and wants to live out his freedom in a way that is putting everyone at his expense

thick mango
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Yeah and that's only like a twist of fate or two away from luffy. It's so good

spice cairn
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I think the juxtaposition of both characters and how they approach freedom is very enticing

sage temple
thick mango
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maybe thats an exaggeration but a loss to anyone has the same effect imo

sage temple
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People try to think of Loki as a weak character in order to act like him winning against Shanks or him being more powerful would leave a plothole

thick mango
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no i dont think any character winning or losing is ever a plothole im not really a powerscaler like that

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unless its like... woopslap vs kaido

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i care more about it undermining the narrative beat i expect and care more about

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like i dont see the vision for loki beating shanks accomplishing anything narratively but i do the vision for the other way around

scarlet nacelle
spice cairn
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Shanks is the turkey that is actively stuffed to make Teech a much more destructive force in the narrative

thick mango
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yeah thats basically how i see it

spice cairn
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Like, dont get me wrong.

scarlet nacelle
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he still strong as all hell

spice cairn
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I think Shanks is a cool character and he is organically lifting up Luffy

sage temple
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So

spice cairn
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However same applies with Teech.

sage temple
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Yeah I don't really get much

thick mango
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we cant be opening the oven, taking off a leg or anything like that until bb gets there.

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the turkey is for bb

spice cairn
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But Teech is coming out alive

sage temple
spice cairn
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I think Teech is the ever-present slowly creeping forward threat of the story

sage temple
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People thought Shanks would 1v1 Harald

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Get all the glaze

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He was basically sidelined at the end

spice cairn
#

While Imu is the right there, immediate one

thick mango
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i think theres a big difference between not being granted a victory, which is neutral, and suffering a loss, which is negative

spice cairn
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I personally thought it would be the other way around tbh

thick mango
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this plot beat is ready to happen even if shanks never gets more glaze. But we cant be taking glaze off before we get there

spice cairn
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But Oda definitely changed it up a bit thanks to Rocks

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And well, Imu finally being involved with the conflict

pulsar timber
#

Yamatos devil fruit is pretty much a legendary fruit.

spice cairn
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It was.

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Kaido wanted it for Wano mascot reasons

sage temple
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But until then it's just the fruit of a guardian

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Loki and Luffy's fruits themselves were called legendary

pulsar timber
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It’s the guardian spirit of the strongest nation so that qualifies

thick mango
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the fact that loki has a a legendary devil fruit and legendary weapon and kills harald and all that all allows him to lose without being seen as weak. And its his strength that would make shanks' victory work better

sage temple
pulsar timber
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It is legendary.

sage temple
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It's just creature Wano sees as it's guardian spirit

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Lmao

pulsar timber
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This is a minor detail though

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Carry on

royal orchid
scarlet nacelle
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if shanks didn't beat loki
why does loki seem to resent shanks

sage temple
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Loki and Luffy's fruits are the only fruits called legendary in the series and you can't really change it

thick mango
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cause shanks chained him to a tree?

small ember
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The rare pre ts Kid

scarlet nacelle
spice cairn
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The fruit is based on a guardian deity though iirc

scarlet nacelle
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we never see much of it

spice cairn
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So I think it counts

pulsar timber
sage temple
spice cairn
sage temple
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Imprisoning someone doesn't exactly mean you're stronger

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We see this with Queen and Big Mom

royal orchid
thick mango
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The resentment makes perfect sense to me regardless of which side won or how fair the victory was

royal orchid
sage temple
spice cairn
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Well I mean Zolo did the work for me.

thick mango
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you arent happy about being chained to a tree for years cause the fight that put you there was fair and honorable

spice cairn
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So thats up for you to interpret

small ember
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He looks ok here

royal orchid
#

is socrates arguing semantics again

sage temple
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If fruits being legendary were up to the reader's twist of interpretation a lot fruits could arguably be legendary

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Yet Loki's and Luffy's are explicitly called legendary, out of every fruit in the series

pulsar timber
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Didn’t know every nation had a legendary mythical zoan work as a guardian for it

sage temple
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And Yamato is not a counterexample of this fact at all

small ember
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But Kid's glowup is good though

spice cairn
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It is centered around an entire guardian deity that protects an entire nation of people.

royal orchid
spice cairn
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Its entire allure is enough to make it qualify as legendary

sage temple
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Not a legendary mythical zoan

royal orchid
sage temple
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But carry on

spice cairn
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Its as legendary of a mythical fruit as Loki's presumably is and Luffys

ruby moat
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i hope ur not lactose intolerant bc loki's fruit is legen-dairy

sage temple
thick mango
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Id like foxxy to join either bb or cg

sage temple
small ember
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I always liked Killer's design pre/post ts

royal orchid
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what if Kidd's pants pre timeskip looking like dry soil is a reference to how he didn't actually drown to death and will return fully dry in elbaf?????????

thoughts????

ruby moat
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he cant come back if they had someone helping him use his power properly it'd be too op

thick mango
sage temple
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Why I'm emphasizing it being explicit is because it's starting to seem like an extremely intentional sign from Oda

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But you can cope and act like Yamato's fruit is called legendary

ruby moat
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actually that'd be a nuts fruit for bb to take ur right

sage temple
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It just isn't though

royal orchid
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☝️Goda

sage temple
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🤷‍♂️

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Lmao

royal orchid
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anyways what's the loki discussion this time

spice cairn
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I kind of fail to believe why it can't be considered one besides the Author not spoonfeeding you the fact that it is. But the only thing I'll concede with is that its not actively stated to be one, but it has the key important traits enough to where it can by all accounts be one.

sage temple
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If fruits being legendary was based on it's "allure" every fruit is arguably legendary

scarlet nacelle
spice cairn
sage temple
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But I just dont care about allure and I'd rather focus on what the manga says

scarlet nacelle
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but no
useless D mid failed us again

sage temple
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Not legendary

royal orchid
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isn't Kidd's fruit only legendary to the people of elbaf anyway

pulsar timber
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Kaidos fruit is legendary too. Literallt called one of the most powerful fruits in existence

royal orchid
#

shit

sage temple
royal orchid
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I was still on Kidd

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isn't Loki's fruit only legendary to the people of elbaf anyway

pulsar timber
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Oda doesn’t need to go spell it out for you on page

spice cairn
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Socrates Oda doesnt need to spoonfeed you on these things

sage temple
spice cairn
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Oda leaves very clear indicators that its legendary

sage temple
#

No

scarlet nacelle
sage temple
sage temple
spice cairn
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He literally is, as per Kaido's dialog towards Yamato

sage temple
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Yet he's been swept under the rug and given such a mysterious bounty

small ember
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Guardian fruit mentioned

sage temple
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He says it's Wano's deity

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Naming it a god I guess

#

But it really isn't legendary

scarlet nacelle
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mb

spice cairn
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Is that not legendary for you?

pulsar path
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Yo have to divide Loki's time out there to giant time

sage temple
sage temple
pulsar path
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4 years is really just one year

spice cairn
#

We'll have to agree to disagree.

thick mango
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I think thats why kaido never awakened. Cause he was a bad steward of wano so he could never align with the fruit of wano's guardian diety

sage temple
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I could say the chop chop fruit is legendary because my butt cheeks tell me so

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Lmao

spice cairn
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Otherwise we are going to constantly repeat "BUT ODA SAID" and what not ad infinitum

sage temple
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But it isn't really legendary and the allure doesn't matter

royal orchid
spice cairn
sage temple
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You can't repeat anything about what Oda said or what's written in the book

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Because no other fruit in the book has been called legendary

sage temple
spice cairn
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Theres nothing mythical about it (that we know of) nor does it have any shared lore significance with any established legends and what not.

sage temple
#

My butt cheeks are calibrating to the allure of Buggy's fruit

sage temple
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Lol

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And I'm saying Buggy's would be unknown the same as Luffy's being pretty unknown at the beginning

spice cairn
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So to you, none of the subcontext of the fruit does not matter until Oda specifically has to spoonfeed you that info to you.

#

Interesting. I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree

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We are running in circles

sage temple
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Lack of evidence is not lack of evidence

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Or absence

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Idk

royal orchid
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take a 5 minute break socrates

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posture check

spice cairn
sage temple
sage temple
spice cairn
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Looking back at the Kid birthday image

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Jesus hes ugly

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The angling does not do him justice

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Like he actually looks really good typically but this new image isnt it.

fallen meteor
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its the light on his hair

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makes him look like 10x worse

spice cairn
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I gotta see the past birthday pictures

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Like this one

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See? This one is great

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This was last year's celebration image

sage temple
#

Why waste energy on a dead man

spice cairn
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Yknow, I was hoping he'd be back

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But its looking more and more unlikely.

thick mango
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id still put it above 50% though i prefer he doesnt return

spice cairn
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Im not even a big fan, but I really do like his character enough to where I wish he got more exploration.

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Im not even begging for a Law-esque wank glaze

fallen meteor
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I mean at some point he returns im like 99% sure

spice cairn
#

But just a tiny bit more

sage temple
#

He's dead

fallen meteor
spice cairn
sage temple
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Or a flashback

spice cairn
#

You're frying me man

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😭

sage temple
spice cairn
#

Ok now Pedro exploding into a bazillion pieces is a hard confirm of death lmao.

sage temple
#

I genuinely miss him SadHoshi

spice cairn
#

That can't be comparable

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I mean same

sage temple
spice cairn
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He died so that Carrot can ruin his image

sage temple
#

I was hoping he'd replace Sanji ngl

spice cairn
#

I mean, as much as I like Sanji

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I suppose that wouldnt be bad at all

fallen meteor
#

twitter is so funny dude
found a post about a big one piece find and its an image of samurai visiting egypt irl in like 1860

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like thats cool as fuck sure

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but one piece???

thick mango
#

Do yall think imu has a sugar-like underling or sugar-like powers. I been thinking about dressrosa as maybe a parallel for imu stuff. Something like imu turning the kings into sea kings and making people forget about them

spice cairn
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IE Gunko

fallen meteor
spice cairn
#

But I think theyre disposable vessels rather than underlings

sage temple
#

Oh like Doflamingo ic

thick mango
spice cairn
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I dont think Imu has underlings but rather vessels to seep its power into to be involved in conflicts

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But then again... thats essentially what a HK partially is.

sage temple
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I think Imu is an extremely tall being

spice cairn
#

But I feel like people like Gunko are immensely special

sage temple
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And they control their body like a remote control mech

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Would explain the blob action on GV tbf that was a possession so nvm

spice cairn
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Imu has no true body I think

fallen meteor
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imu is a buried god on the red line and what we see is the tip of one of his fingers

spice cairn
#

I think its just a disgusting hellspawn unironically that shifts into a humanoid body

vital heart
#

Aloha!

spice cairn
#

I would not be surprised if Imu is a literal black blob

sage temple
#

Imagine how ugly Imu would be using Oda's aging logic

fallen meteor
#

whenever i say some crazy bullshit Meek shows up

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Aloha, Meek

spice cairn
thick mango
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im just thinking what could be in the void century. How do you erase history when there's always going to be word of mouth? And one way to be able to fully erase events is through a power like sugar's. And that also got me thinking about the title 'sea king' and the sea kings bein special and knowing prophecies and shit

vital heart
vital heart
spice cairn
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I think no matter what Imu did, word will get out eventually.

#

Theres always water that seeps through the cracks

thick mango
#

well yeah just like dressrosa. But there must have been some magical mechanism to achieve it when it first happened

spice cairn
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I think the Marines as it exists today is what Imu uses to slience people

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But if you were to say other means..

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The ancient weapon definitely.

thick mango
#

its easy to use indirect means like that to keep people from knowledge 800 years ago. But how do you keep people from present day knowledge and prevent them from passing it down via word of mouth?

spice cairn
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I dont think Imu has a dedicated pocket Sugar

fallen meteor
spice cairn
#

Nuke bomb, family lineage killing

thick mango
#

im expecting a magical answer of some kind. Maybe not sugar/pudding powers specifically but something like that

vital heart
#

No

spice cairn
#

I think the Mother Flame is being used to recreate that.

fallen meteor
#

whats the quote again

vital heart
#

It was an awakened pudding

#

You guys need to realized it was an awakened pudding fruit

fallen meteor
#

when a man truly dies

vital heart
#

Is when they are forgotten

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Pudding

scarlet nacelle
#

could 1 user really span the whole world

spice cairn
vital heart
#

Yeah

thick mango
#

cause i think conventional means like killing people would work in the current op world. But the ancient kingdom world was high technology and therefore also high information. It would be very very hard to keep any kind of large scale secret

vital heart
sage temple
#

Can't wait for Loki's eye powers to be revealed

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I have a feeling it's weather/ancient weapon themed

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Just off of how much it snowed when he was born

scarlet nacelle
vital heart
#

This means that Wano is an antipodal point on the Blue Planet with respect to wherever the awakening of the Pudding fruit took place

@thick mango @scarlet nacelle

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Antipodal

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Do yk what that means

#

I can define it

sage temple
#

Dude js wanted to use antipodal

thick mango
#

i think i got it from context

scarlet nacelle
vital heart
#

Yes

fallen meteor
#

like brazil and japan

sage temple
#

Yeah I think the admirals are like a triumvirate among things

spice cairn
#

I dont think Pudding would be allat but I guess within the context of Imu... maybe?

sage temple
#

Do u wanna know what triumvirate means

vital heart
#

Yes

thick mango
#

but maybe im leaning too hard into patterns/paralells. But theres a lot of stuff in dressrosa thats reminiscent of imu/marijoa. So i was thinking if maybe sugar type powers will be included as one of those paralells

vital heart
#

What does it mean

thick mango
#

i wanna say a council of 3 leaders

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nailed it

scarlet nacelle
spice cairn
fallen meteor
#

bro you sniped his asnwer

spice cairn
#

But I think theyre vessels

sage temple
spice cairn
#

However I think the key to your awnser lies in the book

sage temple
proud pivot
spice cairn
#

That book is very fascinating

tranquil blade
sage temple
fallen meteor
thick mango
fallen meteor
#

he's looking at the mega houndoom

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anyways and baby 5 with the guns

#

is the doffy crew as a whole = imu

thick mango
#

It wont be 1:1 like nothing ever is but i do think we'll see notes of things in imu and their officers where there were similar things for doffy and his officers

formal wagon
#

chekhov's second giant sword

#

does chekhov really need that many

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isn't one enough

tranquil blade
#

He forgot about the first one

sage temple
#

Is it another word for Loki

formal wagon
# sage temple Who is chekhov

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chekhov's_gun chekhov is very well armed

but the joke is that people in wano used this princple to justify the theory that eustass would use the giant sword that was on onigashima. Calling it chekhov's second giant sword is making fun of oda for introducing two swords on an island with a guy who has magnet powers on it but presumably doing nothing with either.

Chekhov's gun (or Chekhov's rifle; Russian: Чеховское ружьё) is a narrative principle emphasizing that every element in a story be necessary, while irrelevant elements should be removed. For example, if a gun features in a story, there must be a reason for it, such as being fired at some later point. The principle that all elements...

fallen meteor
#

third time is the charm - Vira will have the biggest sword so far

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maybe Vira is on a sword

#

!!!

sage temple
#

I'm still betting Loki wields that sword

sage temple
#

And Ragnir becomes his pet/friend similar to his dog

formal wagon
#

vira will have everything i want or think is funny on it. weevil chekhov's third sword

spice cairn
#

Me when the Fanta hits my cup

formal wagon
tranquil blade
fallen meteor
#

wait i have an idea but the tablet is not connected so i will do it on paint

spice cairn
#

Vira is happening for sure

#

People are just in denial

sage temple
#

I remember when it was Ussop's arc

spice cairn
#

Its Bonneys arc

sage temple
#

Ussop once he finally locks in

spice cairn
#

His time is not coming till Lodestar

vital heart
#

Aloha!

thick mango
formal wagon
#

virabros will win

spice cairn
#

Hello Meek from Hawaii

final trench
#

Elbaf aint over so it aint over for usopp

thick mango
#

up to this point, its rocks' arc lets be real

spice cairn
#

Just like was Frankys arc, im sure

sage temple
spice cairn
#

And like how it was Zoro's arc too.

final trench
#

No cope around here

spice cairn
#

Its Loki's arc

vital heart
final trench
sage temple
#

The whole reason Rocks got that attention was because Loki idolizes him

#

It's Loki's arc for sure

#

I'll give Rocks the flashback I guess though

spice cairn
#

Zoro generally got a very good bit of love for himself but it wasnt centered around him

#

WCI was a mistake

#

Now everyone thinks an arc HAS to be centered around a SH

torn kite
#

I feel like not enough people talk about this right here like where would you even scale this explosion shit looks like it could destroy a small island or even a medium-sized one

final trench
#

Usopp has been wanting to go to elbaf ever since we met him

#

It aint comparable

#

But cook ig

sage temple
#

It couldn't even break a brick

spice cairn
#

Just like Franky was obessed with meeting Vegapunk and wanting to fiddle his pickle

sage temple
#

That explosion is weak asf

tranquil blade
#

wanting to what now

sage temple
#

Lmao

fallen meteor
sage temple
#

That explosion is sub-gear 4

spice cairn
sage temple
#

😭

spice cairn
#

Vegapunk got his pickle fiddled

formal wagon
torn kite
sage temple
#

It's just big and passive

spice cairn
sage temple
#

It's sub-gear 4

tranquil blade
sage temple
#

And Road is weak

fallen meteor
sage temple
#

He got beat up by Nami

formal wagon
#

but thats a beautiful depiction of the promised island @fallen meteor