#also-manga
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With Luffy
Zoro is just going to be a nomad
damn, koushiro stray
i hate that guy
He has a daughter whos really skilled with swords but he berates her in favor of his male students she regularly beats and says she will become weaker when she grows up
bonk punch is such an incredible name
if the crew disbands yeah, I do think nami is the only one who stays no matter what based on dialogue though
Bro hated his daughter
anyway tashigi will be beating zoro in the epilogue
I love how this is the one plot point that every fan can come together on and hate.
Baccarat, Gunko, Boa Hancock, Big Mom, Nico Robin, Sugar, & Perona all have very strong devil fruit powers
I'm not a big fan of that theory icl
Hes going to surprise Sanji with a new uncle and its just Ceasar
Baccarat is film only?
Uta too I’d say
yeah
Unfortunately
yeah
baccarat is extremely strong
baccarat is a pair of sentient boobs
King and whyper should shake hands
What is Baccarats fruit
though i guess she might be weak to like enviromental damage
Ive never seen a film
the luck DF
luck
Her devil fruit power is being able to make someone unlucky or lucky
Like just like that?
yeah
Just like completely change their luck?
Thats fucking stupid
But funny
Thats my dream fruit
i dont remember if she has to like directly take it
that's the main thing I remember about her, gigantic chest 
She tried it on Luffy & Sanji and Luffy had terrible stomach ache and Sanji’s cigarette burned him on fire
Does she have to touch you?
Yes
fan service in general was something else in that movie
its kind of like big mom where you have to build it up
What if thats the hidden 3rd fruit
Does she do charity and stuff like a karma mechanic?
i dont remember enough about gold for that lol
any time she's brought up, that's the only thing people post about her
i think she just cons people into betting big at the casino after winning then stealing the luck back
That’s unfortunate cuz she has aura
She would've been useful in Dressrosa's casino business
Yeah she makes them lucky and then super unlucky
There’s also Mr Tanaka, his devil fruit is okay but he feels like an Usopp opponent
cool DF but she was definitely eye candy. then again, so was robin in that white outfit
Toei tends to do this unfortunately
This is very inappropriate
film gold had a lot of very good outfits
well it's hot and it probably pushes merch
ez
gg
He ate the Through Through fruit. He started shooting a gun at chopper and Usopp and going through floors like a mole
Yeah but they could've went back to roots
Film Gold was alr
kinda swagged up
she stays where?
Why is ussop trying to a hit the boa Hancock pose 😭
Dice was one FREAKY AHHH MF. He said give me more!!! When Franky punched him in the face
who tf is Jason
dice was a bit a freak
Ussop's surname
Sorry autocorrect somehow turned ussop into Jason
with luffy on the sunny so he doesn't get lost and drown like an idiot
oh yeah dice didnt even have a fruit
Is she strong enough to swim and carry him tho?
he was just a masochist
Film Gold is awesome
are you a luna shipper?
tesoro best movie villian
best is pushing it but he is good
Z clears
easily, nami is much stronger than the average OP human and we forget it because she seems weak compared to yonko crew members
Can I say something
Zoro fans are not a fan of that movie
Basically the plot of the movie was to save Zoro
yes, bluko and I are like the only ones in this server 
but I said that because of actual dialogue, not my own bias
oh yeah zoro was the princess for a bit
I loved it personally
Ah so you are a shipper
Give me damsel in disrress Zoro
Me too. It was refreshing
fair enough
i think i see film gold and film z on the same level as my favourites
for the post-strong world stuff
Stampede is the first OP movie I watched so Im biased
stampede is a bunch of dumb fun
The turtles in the movie were cool too
Yeah
You say this but the home theory will happen anyways
I like all the cameos
i also enjoyed film red but i wish it leaned into its stuff more
She had a genunie busted DF
He also made a cameo return! @fast pagoda
Is that fucking Waynze
istg if nami just ends up being a bell-mere repeat, I'll be so disappointed
Ya
Yes in the movie film gold

OP films LOVE to have cameos
I used to hate Wanze
shoutout to sabo and lucci being in film gold for a whole 2 minutes'
But now I appreciate him
they love their trailer bait
Im fucking with you btw
Hes still so random though
I know, it's more of a general vent
FOR REAL. She was a cool villain honestly.
Im very indifferent to their fates barring Luffy and Zoro
have no fear, once it's revealed she's a Nerona, her villain arc will begin. and Sanji will happily shoot her then

I hope the story doesnt end with the crew disbanding and more like them sailing on for a new adventure that we wont see
Nami is a sleeper agent
The upcoming one piece movie should feature the god knights and Saint Sommers becomes the new punching bag instead of Saint Charlos 
or with Luffy dying
By cancer Roger aids?
usopp's whole thing with kaya is what makes gradual disbanding a possibility I fear
they probably wont have the knights but we might get gorosei-adjacent stuff
Honestly I don't think we see a strawhat die
conq cancer
by anything
why would they even disband
5 Nights at Saturn’s 
i only think brook will
Gunko oneshots the new villain tho
If they do disband they'll prob have a reunion every so often in some sorta epilogue
brook should pass on by the end
to pursue other shit, idk
Truee
...Including Roger Cancer aids
like brook being with laboon after so long
Franky is 100% making his own business
I think BB will grab Brook and he just dies for real
Sanji opens his own restaurant
Just becomes a normal spooky scary skeleton
Zoro uhhh becomes a farmer like Mihawk
siiiiiighs
So, y'all remember when Egghead was Franky's arc?
I can see Chopper and Robin working together as co workers
who
Not every character has to have their own big arc
Chopper the new king of Sakura Kingdom
Rayleigh, tearfully, to Luffy: "...You have Conqueror's AIDS Cancer...just like somone I knew..."
that's also another reason why I think nami is the only one I think is guaranteed to continue with luffy besides her literally talking about it, her world map depends on exploring the world
well now i'm crying. think about you just did.
egghead truly was the arc of missed opportunities
Bonney told Franky to fuck off
Cry harder........
Rightfully so
Anime better make OG We Are and Memories the OP/ED for the very last arc
Aloha!
I could see Jinbe dying
It would not surprise me if Oda brought him along as a sacrificial lamb
Only Straw Hat that will die is Zoro for like a minute
Jinbe sacrifices himself on the grill
ohio goes eye moss my japanese brother
So he can have his moment where he talks to Kuinas ghost and gets lost in the afterlife and leaves
Jinbei is still thinking about the situation btw
he already tried with akainu
The crew is shipwrecked on a random island after fighting BB at sea. Chopper bravely volunteers to be their emergency rations.
Jinbe has no dream, no traumatizing flashback
He's just vibing and Oda can't accept that
It might be
Jimbei's dream is basically human and fishman co-existence

Laugh Tale will be Jinbe's arc, trust
Oh my
We get all these epilogues and Kaido/BM just get cartoonish skeletons in magma
Come on man 
Booze gourd still floating
What sound do you think Jinbes belly would make when you smack it
👀
not a pleasant one
Like a water bed
put your ear to the inside of a conch shell and you'll have your answer
Fascinating
so it'll sound like philosophical rambling?
Ocean waves
No rather this is the conversation of philosophers
Sham ready to kill Buggy
that's Sham Wick to you
they fucked up when they killed Sham Wick's slave
Who was his slave
#34985734985734987
Replace Sanji with Mr. 2
Hina is the reason Smoker is still a marine guy btw
Film Z definitely on my watchlist after Gold
Pay respects to her
Then stampede
And the older one piece movies like chopper’s adventures or something
I think the guy with green hair is Greenbull reference
More like Sham Wow
wdym
what other shit? this is what I mean, if they're all alive why would they disband?
respect john wick
roger cancer aids cant happen to Luffy because Chopper exists
I'm not saying they will disband, it's likelier that they don't
I was just trying to come up with reasons as to why some might leave
ah
usopp is the likeliest because of kaya
and nami is on the opposite end of that spectrum
Usopp could visit Kaya and then leave like Yasopp 😭
the rest are in-between, probably likely to stay
It could play out like a Gaban situation
You could pay a visit to whoever
Like he did with Crocus
Omg Vice Admiral Strawberry
Hina usually got him out of trouble a lot iirc
Usually within the period of time when they started out
Ok so lets be very complicated. What if its incurable
this is news to me
chopper might be the worst character to ever do it in a battle shonen then 
Im serious I read this somewhere hopefully im not crazy
He certainly is
Doc Q however..
no you aren't, I looked it up and there is some stuff in an SBS
I was literally searching it up
yeah
Yeah Hina is sort of his younger but more responsible sister when you think about it
I do like that Oda added some dynamic of friendship in the SBS
cant be, goes against chopper's dream
sorry
fishbonen is the world's strongest doctor
Chopper isnt really ready for the big leagues
he's diagnoses haki FREQUENTLY
Oni virus is baby stuff compared to making exploding apples
its very presitgious to diagnose haki
chopper doesn't even know what haki is
so he can't diagnose it
Chopper doesn't even know how to do any exams on health
chopper
chopper is a fraud
If you tell him what ligma is he'd fall for it
man chopper haters pmo
"man chopper haters pmo"
What qualifies as a chopper hater exactly
""man chopper haters pmo""
people who hate chopper
damn you got me
Like in what way
Like do we have to hate everything about him
Or like we can dismiss his medical feats because chads like Doc Q and Fishbonen are much more qualified
like if you think hes annoying or hes just a mascot and nothing else
Theres a lot of annoying characters so Chopper to me, is whatever
However I dont want to come off as that guy, but Chopper doesnt do it for me anymore even though his Wano contribution was very awesome
But I went from being very enthusiastic about Chopper to just sheer indifference
I definitely don't "hate" him though because hate is generally just a very strong word to use on someone like Chopper.
Theres like, 1 or 2 characters I genuinely hate in One Piece without any irony or sarcasm
name them
so if he dies you wouldnt care?
Who told you niggas time piece was off the table
I mean hes a main character so I mean its a big deal
you said the n word, bad
the straw hats are background characters the main characters are the arc specific characters
My bad
But I genuinely just can't particularly have any strong attachment to him
I loved him in Thriller Bark
I loved him in Enies Lobby
I even loved him in Skypeia
Saturn and uh, York I suppose
I don’t hate him but I ain’t gonna say I find it relatable lol
This where Usopp’s goated cause he’s the most human
Mostly due to them being genuine pieces of shit within the story so its a very basic vanilla take
so you dont like him in any post timeskip arcs?
I like him a bit in Wano's act 3.
in the later timeskip arcs some characters barely do anything
Because he actually does really cool doctoral feating
And I liked him in Punk Hazard
Me when a Luffy x Boa shipper is genuinely furious they arent married with kids in the final chapter:
Boa is not getting married to Luffy
That is the biggest copium
More than Lunami
Sorry folks Luffy doesn't even know what Valentines Day is.
Yeah I don’t see Boa ending up with Luffy romantically
But I do see her somehow getting over the love sickness maybe?
Punk Hazard really felt like the final hurrah for the type of character he was pre TS and his interactions within the arc was very great and drives home why he was unironically one of my favorite SHs on my first read
Like she can be the first to realize she doesn’t need him & can move on
Like not need a man. Yeah it’ll hurt but- she’ll survive
Maybe this is going to stem into HC territory but personally her love oozes more into admiration territory
I think shes in love with the type of person Luffy is and not necessarily the character itself
best one piece ship is chopper x milky (by ship i dont mean boat idiots)
This is a character that has suffered tremendously and Luffy is probably one of the few men in her lifetime that actually wasn't instantly on her.
So that ideal person is what makes her feel this way
And not in the ship way
But thats probably just a HC thing I took within the story because Oda is playing up mostly for laughs.
What a stupid ship
Kids Ship mogs this one for days
Shanks unironically thinks this passes as a ship.
the one that got split in half by a hakiless attack
Yeah but it was fucking cool man
I like the Oro Jackson and Law Submarine
The raft will be the best one
Of course it does lmao
Looks goofy
It does not past Indigex
THIS though is amazing
Simple yet effective
How the fuck do you even get into the cannon room
i'm a log ship hater
to me its like everyone made an effort and BB just whipped something up fast
very disrespectful
Yeah Teech is a grand lifestyler
but BB as a whole is on fraud alert for me after Rocks
But sometimes you got to stick with the basics
I mean yeah his lineage is filled with fraudulent achievers
Hes probably not even a real D
Probably only by name
brothers
this not the same mf
Chopper died during the Time Skip, the pet we have now is Leonardo
Like how is the TS design the CURRENT design
naaaaaaaah
Its smaller than pre TS
Like how in any universe works like this
Unless Chopper somehow found the cure of age immortality
I fucking hate Oda for not making sense
It all went to his head
dicaprio, da vinci, or the turtle
Literally
Aloha!
I'm glad he cooked with Loki
I dunno about Ragnir though
Might be too hard for Oda to scale so he js wont do it well
I'd hate to see a non-giant squirrel by the time we finish the arc
a reindeer should already be dead at his age i think so it makes sense if you think about it like that
hes growing old and frail, his body shrinking
oda 😭
oda 
Chekhov’s oda 😭
Well yeah if we apply animal logic irl sure
But it just always bugged me
Like him being fatter makes sense
But tinier when he should definitely be a bit longer and with lankier arms and legs perhaps
However again I guess it was for the appeal of Chopper
Which it is what it is.
Pikachu was also equally shot back in the backyard in an almost similar way
Also he still acts like a kid at like 17
What a weirdo
Well I mean
That im fine with
Its the weird devolving that gets to me in a physical sense
Senior Pink
At least Pink acts like a man Chopper been like 10 years old for almost a decade
Sometimes its funny to ragebait people by saying Bonney is more mature than Chopper is
Or Tama for that matter
I was gonna agree with this until I saw it was ragebait
Ok but tbh
Chopper is def less mature than a lot of kids in OP

Chopper people think im murdering their grandmother but its true
Chopper fans have history of being unstable
This is biblically accurate
chekhov's second giant sword
BLUE CAT
Not really
cats aren't normally like that
most cats are orange or blue
i forgot russian blue cats
they're hypoallergenic
Well then they are normally blue
When I was like like 16, I thought making things blue for no reason was funny
this is a russian blue cat
you were so close..its green
is that nami
Lets just break the color dynamics
from one piece
Yeah its Nami from the hit series One Piece
I think Nami is warming up to be a high tier SH for me generally alongside Jinbei and Sanji.
Ah Ann.
You're no Blue Nami..
no
BLUE NAMI

Fairly sure this is a Toei character though
first cats now nami
you know they once called nami cat burglar
blue burglar
blue burger...
blue burgess.
goda.
No
Im not super familiar with Romance Dawn's conceptuals
Besides Garp appearing super early iirc and Nami being super different
Yeah
Idk what the canon prototype Nami color was
I think Blue is the Toei thing right?

I dont remember Oda coloring Ann himself so maybe
who tf is Ann #other-series
!mods warn this user
Ann was the Nami before Nami
no
Im sorry Goda I underestimated you
Ahhh ok ok
Oda really took Blue Nami away from us
Does this mean Vivi wouldve been orange?
my self refencing goat
Silk was Moda
the best inspiration for a story is yourself
He is
So 
refence your own mythology, allude to your own work
bro spelled reference wrong 😭
refence
me when my fence falls down
fr
I dont really have a reason to believe that, hes most often the one who takes care of children if there are any
Like if Chopper is with a child its not the child who takes care of him
When has this happened
Punk Hazard
Yeah bro just be as vague as possible
He was helping Moccha and co
He was very much mature during that segment
Which was before the shitification hit
Just reread the arc bro he took care of them
Yeah ok
In Wano when O-Lin was around Chopper was the only one who thought of the danger of the situation while Momo and Tama were playing around
Oh alr I see
He was really great in Punk Hazard
Lol he's a medic ofc he would
Well yeah
Yeah but I guess the point is hes actually locking in
That just means hes more mature than most children by virtue
one piece should do this cool trope where they knock people out in one punch without any brain injury
they could give luffy a cool nickname if he did that. guy who ends things in one punch
one punch guy? idk i'm just spitballing here
one punch boy
since he's not very mature
when he gets older they can name him singular punch man
One Hit Man ... wait this sounds like hes an assassin. But we are almost there
single punch man?
Solo Knock Person
Yeah
Man I hate when I accidentally kill my friend I have to tell his family then and everything its so boring
Wow Chopper raised Mocha well
Now she is Whitebeard the yonko and takes care of many other people who need a family
Shes the family that stepped up
a decent chunk of them are probably dead from the payback war, kinda sad
0
Burgess killed Jozou
Payback war. Marines. Past enemies.
Whitebeard died to Burgess hands
Wait did Jozu ever get back up from this
shanks probably goin down in a 10v1 like whitebeard
I forgot if he genuinely did.
He missed
Iirc we saw him at wb funeral
Burgress practiced his aim in the mirror
Is there a single character stronger than Jesus Wurgess
In the anime right?
Manga too
Man that whole funeral skipped past me
I just remember Marco and Shanks reflecting on it
Who cares anyway
True fuck Jozu
Well I mean
Edward was on a timer anyways
He was just a stepping stone for Burgress
Ahh ok there he is.
Did they like, do the Chopper to thaw him out or was Kuzan feeling merciful
He broke out with sheer will power
Only one man can lose an arm and level up
I wonder how many times his crew laughed at him for trying to use his left hand
Was Shank's writing hand was the one ripped off?
Shanks was left handed so I think so
All that to lose to Loki and get saved by a 3rd party
i cant speak japanese so im going to conclude that this definitively proves mythic horse loki of some kind
i do get having a favorite character but i think being so sure that a character that has been nonstop glazed in every appearance in the entire story is gonna get beaten by a character who has been in like 20 chapters is setting yourself for disappointment
but im just as biased as you i guess just in other ways. im so sure shanks is gonna get beaten by bb that I dont believe any story beats that would be counter to that long term trend. Why is it unlikely shanks loses to loki? Cause it undermines the buildup towards losing to bb that has been going on the entire story in my interpretation
I think itll be a conventional victory
Shanks is a lot more self aware of Teech to be surprised attacked
oh i was talking vs loki.
that i think shanks had a conventional victory towards loki cause losing to loki undermines the eventual loss to teach
u think shanks found any haki knots there?
like if we just accept the assumption for a moment that bb will beat shanks, evil luffy defeating luffy's mentor and all that, paying off a long term connection between these two characters, etc. etc.
Think about how the result of the loki clash affects that.
- if shanks beats loki, it further glazes shanks and makes bb's victory even more significant and impactful
- If loki beats shanks and shanks has to get bailed out, then his loss to bb is more like 'whatever, whatd you expect, dude couldnt even beat loki'
shanks beating loki elevates the bb moment. shanks losing to loki undermines it.
Whitebeard left him a few
how nice of him
I agree
I think it's fine
Shanks could win it's wtv
Loki winning would be a huge upset though and I'm all for that
Ill be rejoiceful
for me BB represents the potential of how OP could be truly great, ill be so let down if thats squandered
Its child like wonder warped into childish greed
i think hes been basically perfect up to this point and for the ending to drop the ball would be so disappointing
I think Teech feels like a kid still and wants to live out his freedom in a way that is putting everyone at his expense
Yeah and that's only like a twist of fate or two away from luffy. It's so good
I think the juxtaposition of both characters and how they approach freedom is very enticing
"even" beat loki is still kinda ridiculous to say, he had a top 4 bounty back when he was a pirate and has a legendary fruit same as Luffy
maybe thats an exaggeration but a loss to anyone has the same effect imo
People try to think of Loki as a weak character in order to act like him winning against Shanks or him being more powerful would leave a plothole
no i dont think any character winning or losing is ever a plothole im not really a powerscaler like that
unless its like... woopslap vs kaido
i care more about it undermining the narrative beat i expect and care more about
like i dont see the vision for loki beating shanks accomplishing anything narratively but i do the vision for the other way around
i doubt it's of the same calibur as the nika fruit
i'd wager that it's around the level of all the other myth zoans, like kaido or yamato
the sun god nika is in a leauge of it's own
Shanks is the turkey that is actively stuffed to make Teech a much more destructive force in the narrative

yeah thats basically how i see it
Like, dont get me wrong.
he still strong as all hell
I think Shanks is a cool character and he is organically lifting up Luffy
I really don't think this is true Loki and Luffy's fruits are the only ones in the series to have a legendary title
So
However same applies with Teech.
Yeah I don't really get much
Shanks will kill Blackbeard
we cant be opening the oven, taking off a leg or anything like that until bb gets there.
the turkey is for bb
I can see Shanks completely decimating his forces
But Teech is coming out alive
Well the fact that Loki seemed so much more capable than Shanks and Gaban 14 years ago shows a shift in narrative direction at least for Shanks
I think Teech is the ever-present slowly creeping forward threat of the story
People thought Shanks would 1v1 Harald
Get all the glaze
He was basically sidelined at the end
While Imu is the right there, immediate one
i think theres a big difference between not being granted a victory, which is neutral, and suffering a loss, which is negative
I personally thought it would be the other way around tbh
this plot beat is ready to happen even if shanks never gets more glaze. But we cant be taking glaze off before we get there
But Oda definitely changed it up a bit thanks to Rocks
And well, Imu finally being involved with the conflict
Yamatos devil fruit is pretty much a legendary fruit.
Well if you can show me a panel if it being called that I'll agree
But until then it's just the fruit of a guardian
Loki and Luffy's fruits themselves were called legendary
It’s the guardian spirit of the strongest nation so that qualifies
the fact that loki has a a legendary devil fruit and legendary weapon and kills harald and all that all allows him to lose without being seen as weak. And its his strength that would make shanks' victory work better
Okay this isn't legendary
It is legendary.
good birthday art for kidd
https://x.com/pewpiece/status/2009792817741115617?t=TxBjRyzKjgwN5hL-z2Gnig&s=19
if shanks didn't beat loki
why does loki seem to resent shanks
Loki and Luffy's fruits are the only fruits called legendary in the series and you can't really change it
cause shanks chained him to a tree?
The rare pre ts Kid
hmm
some of his pre ts design
pretty cool
The fruit is based on a guardian deity though iirc
we never see much of it
So I think it counts
He’s copying the residents of #also-manga
Because Shanks imprisoned him
Going to be real but this Kid face is fucking ugly
Imprisoning someone doesn't exactly mean you're stronger
We see this with Queen and Big Mom
scrangly thin kidd
The resentment makes perfect sense to me regardless of which side won or how fair the victory was
poor guy was so ugly back in pre timeskip
Okay well until you show me a panel of it being called legendary I'm just not going to act like it has been
Well I mean Zolo did the work for me.
you arent happy about being chained to a tree for years cause the fight that put you there was fair and honorable
So thats up for you to interpret
He looks ok here
is socrates arguing semantics again
Except for showing a panel of it being called legendary
If fruits being legendary were up to the reader's twist of interpretation a lot fruits could arguably be legendary
Yet Loki's and Luffy's are explicitly called legendary, out of every fruit in the series
Didn’t know every nation had a legendary mythical zoan work as a guardian for it
And Yamato is not a counterexample of this fact at all
But Kid's glowup is good though
It is centered around an entire guardian deity that protects an entire nation of people.
he really bought that dry soil looking ass pair of pants and thought they were HEAT 
Its entire allure is enough to make it qualify as legendary
A mythical zoan
Lava lamp pants
Not a legendary mythical zoan
But carry on
Its as legendary of a mythical fruit as Loki's presumably is and Luffys
i hope ur not lactose intolerant bc loki's fruit is legen-dairy

Id like foxxy to join either bb or cg
No it isn't because it isn't explicitly said so which is my original point
I always liked Killer's design pre/post ts
what if Kidd's pants pre timeskip looking like dry soil is a reference to how he didn't actually drown to death and will return fully dry in elbaf?????????
thoughts????
he cant come back if they had someone helping him use his power properly it'd be too op
Goda...
its gotta be CG then cause BBP would just take it
Why I'm emphasizing it being explicit is because it's starting to seem like an extremely intentional sign from Oda
But you can cope and act like Yamato's fruit is called legendary
actually that'd be a nuts fruit for bb to take ur right
It just isn't though
☝️
anyways what's the loki discussion this time
I kind of fail to believe why it can't be considered one besides the Author not spoonfeeding you the fact that it is. But the only thing I'll concede with is that its not actively stated to be one, but it has the key important traits enough to where it can by all accounts be one.
If fruits being legendary was based on it's "allure" every fruit is arguably legendary
lemme talk on it rq
when i first saw he had the magnet fruit i thought back to the explaination of lougeposes and how each grand line island had a magnetic pull
so i thought kid in the endgame would start moving islands with his fruit
Allure as its significance as a mythical fruit.
But I just dont care about allure and I'd rather focus on what the manga says
oh i was referring to foxy
but no
useless D mid failed us again
isn't Kidd's fruit only legendary to the people of elbaf anyway
Kaidos fruit is legendary too. Literallt called one of the most powerful fruits in existence
do u mean loki?
shit
Lmao that isn't called legendary either
I was still on Kidd
isn't Loki's fruit only legendary to the people of elbaf anyway
Oda doesn’t need to go spell it out for you on page
Socrates Oda doesnt need to spoonfeed you on these things
Have we seen anyone except the people of Elbaph talk about this fruit?
Oda leaves very clear indicators that its legendary
No
elbaf is overall just a very isolated country
If it's so clear he can say so himself
And Loki was a pirate for 8 years
He literally is, as per Kaido's dialog towards Yamato
Yet he's been swept under the rug and given such a mysterious bounty
Guardian fruit mentioned
Kaido doesn't say legendary
He says it's Wano's deity
Naming it a god I guess
But it really isn't legendary
ngl i forgot he was a pirate for a time
i thought he got jailed immediately after harald died
mb
Is that not legendary for you?
Yo have to divide Loki's time out there to giant time
Allg
What's legendary for me is when someone says the fruit is legendary
4 years is really just one year
We'll have to agree to disagree.
I think thats why kaido never awakened. Cause he was a bad steward of wano so he could never align with the fruit of wano's guardian diety
Otherwise we are going to constantly repeat "BUT ODA SAID" and what not ad infinitum
But it isn't really legendary and the allure doesn't matter
I will repeat that
no so we don't have reason to believe it's a widely considered "legendary fruit" yet
it would definitely be cool though 
Chop Chop has no significance as a fruit though
You can't repeat anything about what Oda said or what's written in the book
Because no other fruit in the book has been called legendary
Unless it's a fake name like Luffy's
Theres nothing mythical about it (that we know of) nor does it have any shared lore significance with any established legends and what not.
My butt cheeks are calibrating to the allure of Buggy's fruit
Yeah sure but Loki and Luffy's fruits are the only ones called legendary
Lol
And I'm saying Buggy's would be unknown the same as Luffy's being pretty unknown at the beginning
So to you, none of the subcontext of the fruit does not matter until Oda specifically has to spoonfeed you that info to you.
Interesting. I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree
We are running in circles
We haven't even seen anyone talk about Loki himself except for like 1 chapter before this arc
Lack of evidence is not lack of evidence
Or absence
Idk

the lack of evidence is not the evidence of absence
Yeah u right
Thank you
Looking back at the Kid birthday image
Jesus hes ugly
The angling does not do him justice
Like he actually looks really good typically but this new image isnt it.
I gotta see the past birthday pictures
Like this one
See? This one is great
This was last year's celebration image
Why waste energy on a dead man
id still put it above 50% though i prefer he doesnt return

Im not even a big fan, but I really do like his character enough to where I wish he got more exploration.
Im not even begging for a Law-esque wank glaze
I mean at some point he returns im like 99% sure
But just a tiny bit more
He's dead
Maybe not as a fighter tho
Ill believe it when I see his body floating down the river
Yeah me too with Pedro
Ok now Pedro exploding into a bazillion pieces is a hard confirm of death lmao.
I genuinely miss him 
You bring a fine point
He died so that Carrot can ruin his image
I was hoping he'd replace Sanji ngl
twitter is so funny dude
found a post about a big one piece find and its an image of samurai visiting egypt irl in like 1860
like thats cool as fuck sure
but one piece???
Do yall think imu has a sugar-like underling or sugar-like powers. I been thinking about dressrosa as maybe a parallel for imu stuff. Something like imu turning the kings into sea kings and making people forget about them
Im sure Imu handpicked personal individuals
IE Gunko
my brain did not go to Sugar the character while reading this
first i thought sudar gaddy powers then i was like 'so..sugar logia??'
But I think theyre disposable vessels rather than underlings
Wdym sugar-like underling
Oh like Doflamingo ic
underling with powers similar to sugar in the doffy family. Transform + memory wipe
I dont think Imu has underlings but rather vessels to seep its power into to be involved in conflicts
But then again... thats essentially what a HK partially is.
I think Imu is an extremely tall being
But I feel like people like Gunko are immensely special
And they control their body like a remote control mech
Would explain the blob action on GV tbf that was a possession so nvm
Imu has no true body I think
imu is a buried god on the red line and what we see is the tip of one of his fingers
I think its just a disgusting hellspawn unironically that shifts into a humanoid body
Aloha!
I would not be surprised if Imu is a literal black blob
Imagine how ugly Imu would be using Oda's aging logic
Literally rotting corpse
im just thinking what could be in the void century. How do you erase history when there's always going to be word of mouth? And one way to be able to fully erase events is through a power like sugar's. And that also got me thinking about the title 'sea king' and the sea kings bein special and knowing prophecies and shit
This is surprisingly not that bad of an idea…. The main body being hidden…
Pudding devil fruit. Awakened. Used on the world.
I think no matter what Imu did, word will get out eventually.
Theres always water that seeps through the cracks
well yeah just like dressrosa. But there must have been some magical mechanism to achieve it when it first happened
I think the Marines as it exists today is what Imu uses to slience people
But if you were to say other means..
The ancient weapon definitely.
its easy to use indirect means like that to keep people from knowledge 800 years ago. But how do you keep people from present day knowledge and prevent them from passing it down via word of mouth?
I dont think Imu has a dedicated pocket Sugar
am i cooked i thought about puddings like the
Eliminate as much as you can
Nuke bomb, family lineage killing
im expecting a magical answer of some kind. Maybe not sugar/pudding powers specifically but something like that
No
I think the Mother Flame is being used to recreate that.
whats the quote again
It was an awakened pudding
You guys need to realized it was an awakened pudding fruit
when a man truly dies
ok but how would such a fruit be used on that big a scale
could 1 user really span the whole world
Kill the man but not the idea
Yeah
cause i think conventional means like killing people would work in the current op world. But the ancient kingdom world was high technology and therefore also high information. It would be very very hard to keep any kind of large scale secret
No they cant. Didnt work on the Kozuki. They still remember the void century.
Can't wait for Loki's eye powers to be revealed
I have a feeling it's weather/ancient weapon themed
Just off of how much it snowed when he was born
ok it wasn't the whole world per say but the majority of it
thats still a LOT
This means that Wano is an antipodal point on the Blue Planet with respect to wherever the awakening of the Pudding fruit took place
@thick mango @scarlet nacelle
Antipodal
Do yk what that means
I can define it
Dude js wanted to use antipodal
i think i got it from context
like on the opposite side of the world?
Yes
like brazil and japan
Yeah I think the admirals are like a triumvirate among things
I dont think Pudding would be allat but I guess within the context of Imu... maybe?
Do u wanna know what triumvirate means
Yes
but maybe im leaning too hard into patterns/paralells. But theres a lot of stuff in dressrosa thats reminiscent of imu/marijoa. So i was thinking if maybe sugar type powers will be included as one of those paralells
What does it mean
group of 3 important people
I guess I wouldnt be shocked if one of the god blade children has it.
bro you sniped his asnwer
But I think theyre vessels

However I think the key to your awnser lies in the book
Yeah
Hate when they do that
That book is very fascinating
I mean doesnt domi reversi kinda parallel her powers, with the whole immortal doll soldiers vs Imu's immortal demon warriors
Same I wanted to define it
and them doffy with the parasite string
Sure i can see that angle too but i was more focused on the memory aspect i guess. And i thought maybe people got turned into sea kings. Cause i dunno something about the title 'sea king' fills me with suspicion

he's looking at the mega houndoom
anyways and baby 5 with the guns
is the doffy crew as a whole = imu
It wont be 1:1 like nothing ever is but i do think we'll see notes of things in imu and their officers where there were similar things for doffy and his officers
He forgot about the first one
Who is chekhov
Is it another word for Loki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chekhov's_gun chekhov is very well armed
but the joke is that people in wano used this princple to justify the theory that eustass would use the giant sword that was on onigashima. Calling it chekhov's second giant sword is making fun of oda for introducing two swords on an island with a guy who has magnet powers on it but presumably doing nothing with either.
Chekhov's gun (or Chekhov's rifle; Russian: Чеховское ружьё) is a narrative principle emphasizing that every element in a story be necessary, while irrelevant elements should be removed. For example, if a gun features in a story, there must be a reason for it, such as being fired at some later point. The principle that all elements...
third time is the charm - Vira will have the biggest sword so far
maybe Vira is on a sword
!!!
Oh interesting
I'm still betting Loki wields that sword
And Ragnir becomes his pet/friend similar to his dog
explained the joke 😭
vira will have everything i want or think is funny on it. weevil chekhov's third sword
Me when the Fanta hits my cup
I said this but then I got crucified for being right too early
wait i have an idea but the tablet is not connected so i will do it on paint
I remember when it was Ussop's arc
Its Bonneys arc
Ussop once he finally locks in
His time is not coming till Lodestar
Aloha!
hey guys
virabros will win
Hello Meek from Hawaii
It still is
Elbaf aint over so it aint over for usopp
up to this point, its rocks' arc lets be real
Just like was Frankys arc, im sure
It's Loki's arc by extension
And like how it was Zoro's arc too.
No cope around here
Its Loki's arc
So far its been Harald arc, secondary being Rocks and tertiary being Loki
Was it not?
The whole reason Rocks got that attention was because Loki idolizes him
It's Loki's arc for sure
I'll give Rocks the flashback I guess though
Zoro generally got a very good bit of love for himself but it wasnt centered around him
WCI was a mistake
Now everyone thinks an arc HAS to be centered around a SH
I feel like not enough people talk about this right here like where would you even scale this explosion shit looks like it could destroy a small island or even a medium-sized one
Usopp has been wanting to go to elbaf ever since we met him
It aint comparable
But cook ig
No?
It couldn't even break a brick
Just like Franky was obessed with meeting Vegapunk and wanting to fiddle his pickle
That explosion is weak asf
wanting to what now
Lmao
@formal wagon this is how Vira will look like
they live in the guard of the sword and the castle is at the very top
That explosion is sub-gear 4
I know what I said
😭
Vegapunk got his pickle fiddled
please add a sun. noland called it a sunny village
Shoot, it was strong enough for the giant to feel it
Okay
It's just big and passive
Yknow this can work like a ship
It's sub-gear 4
didnt he call it lively
And Road is weak
the sun is just out of the picture (i closed paint)
He got beat up by Nami
but thats a beautiful depiction of the promised island @fallen meteor






