also-manga

[vapid flower]

Enforcement will be based on the bet I print out, drip blood on, and burn at the altar of Sithis

[crimson yacht]

bro weapon dont count as help

[vapid flower]

so I need it definitive

[hoary steppe]

Bruh ragnir is part of loki power

[dapper tree]

ragnir is a whole other character

ragnir is his own person

smh my head

[hoary steppe]

So cerberus aint shamrock weapon

[dapper tree]

shamrock is a fraud

[hoary steppe]

Agreed

[dapper tree]

don't get me started on him

[crimson yacht]

big mom gonna come back and bea ton loki

[hoary steppe]

Oh hell naw

Bug mom believer in the big 2026

[distant vine]

Wait thats W agenda

Loki needs a 2v1 to fight Shanks

[fallen meteor]

ok so if shanks shows up and disables ragnir with some wifi haki or something like that and its just loki (with his hammer knocked out) vs shanks who wins the big socrates bets?

[distant vine]

Socrates loses if Shanks wins there I assume

[dapper tree]

it depends on if ragnir is a squirrel or hammer first cause it depends on how disabling ragnir would work

[fallen meteor]

what happens if ragnir

[dapper tree]

they die

really all there is

unless ya know haki up

[brittle basin]

"Let's haki up, everyone!" - Luffy and all his Gear 5 clones when facing Imu

[distant vine]

Shanks can break hammer-first Ragnir

COC can destroy the environment around it

[fallen meteor]

picture this

Loki goes to swing his hammer and Shanks some high grade conquerors
so Ragnir passed out and Loki swings the squirrel around

[torn osprey]

!youlost

[tropic nova]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/738580480437387264/1139931869023047760/image.png

[dapper tree]

would be hilarious

[distant vine]

This was Ragnir to Loki when Shanks started the fight

[unique lagoon]

(its not happening)

[royal orchid]

big mom places her soul on her skeleton

and marries brook

thoughts?

[fossil nimbus]

It's happening

[sage temple]

Define win

[dapper tree]

bruh

[royal orchid]

defeat other party

[dapper tree]

socrates gonna hit us with a define shanks

[royal orchid]

counting or not counting observation killing

[dapper tree]

does using haki count

does using weapons count

does using df count

[dapper tree]

does using haki knots count?

[remote maple]

haki knotted shirt vs imu who wins

[royal orchid]

shanks had to whip out his last roger haki knot and an extra whitebeard haki knot to beat loki

and then yassop and ben had to shoot him and monster had to play an epic song in the background

and and and

https://tenor.com/view/chavo-el-chavo-del8-mexico-dance-moves-gif-17242819

[dapper tree]

does it count if there is a sneak attack

[brittle basin]

Luffy should just make a brass knuckles of haki knots

[sage temple]

Define Loki

[royal orchid]

I'm guessing haki knots are part of the 800 year old technology lost in the floods because they would really just rewrite the story

if they actually still existed

[brittle basin]

a giant in One Piece who wields an unknown DF and Ragnir

[sage temple]

He needed help from his entire crew including Oars Jr

[sage temple]

False

He's in Elbaph

Not One Piece

[dense haven]

ITS CHAPTER WEEK

[brittle basin]

[brittle basin]

banned for using the heretical "Elbaph"

[remote maple]

isn't it next week

[olive sigil]

Why is he red beard?

[brittle basin]

i. have. no idea.

[olive sigil]

Go find out

[potent pier]

tekking has been right on the money

[distant vine]

Sometimes I wonder how many of you guys I argue with

That use AI in arguments

Or use AI to summarize the chapter and then read that

[brittle basin]

If you don't like what someone says, just reply with "ChatGPT ass reply"

BUT
You do bring up a good point

[distant vine]

Shanks haters probably do read using AI

[vital heart]

Aloha!

I highkey dropped One Piece

[brittle basin]

Welp. Back to Viz.

[torn stirrup]

huge fan of the thumbnail for this week's ep of The One Piece Podcast

[dapper tree]

https://tenor.com/view/you-guys-were-free-stan-marsh-eric-cartman-kenny-mccormick-kyle-broflovski-gif-22327280

[remote maple]

who's podcast?

[whole delta]

U need gta modded account or money drop dm me directly

[torn stirrup]

oh its just called The One Piece Podcast lol

[brittle basin]

"Yo anyone need a mod for a 13-year old game?"

[sage temple]

Looks sick

[brittle basin]

I just want you to know that the Meek vs Pasta arc is a top ten anime arc.

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/mourinho-gif-20750597

[dapper tree]

it's like top 7 for sure at least

[rose rune]

I dunno, I didn't find pasta believable as a villain

[dapper tree]

It's cause I felt bad

[brittle basin]

you lack that dog in you. find your inner Satan and channel his glorious power.

[dapper tree]

Alright, i'll destoy meek just for you

[rose rune]

it's like watching jared leto as the joker

I'm sorry Pasta, that was too mean even as a joke

[dapper tree]

[digital spear]

Jared Leto >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every other Joker

[royal orchid]

did you really hold down [Shift] and [ . > ] keys for this long just for bait

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/rabbits-bunnies-bath-wtf-chill-gif-3411972

[tranquil blade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/850784215774789655/1448773333251391689/IMG_0459.gif

[rose rune]

this reminds me of my comic

finally I found it

[remote maple]

glorp

[royal orchid]

the second image feels like those old japanese paintings to me

an epic event was captured there

[iron oriole]

Man.. manga has become the default way i read anything with images & i always get confused when i see something like this

[amber lark]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-sanji-pudding-in-love-kilig-gif-24865472

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/view/essica-monthly-squirrel-7th-gif-11794159313038643492

[hazy turret]

This is like the third time I’ve seen this image in the last hour

[spice cairn]

Can we get much higher?

[grand flower]

No life having ass

[blazing depot]

I wish I could get amnesia so I can watch OP all over again

Blind and unspoiled

[spice cairn]

What if I punched you

And you got a coma

Would you want to experience the entirety of One Piece while in a coma

[fallen meteor]

you probably would go like 'too many episodes'

[hazy turret]

Literally what is your problem

[spice cairn]

Too many books

[fallen meteor]

too many cooks

[spice cairn]

Too many cogs in the machine...

[digital spear]

this isnt even that much effort compared to usually

[blazing depot]

Van Auger reminds me of this specific lolcow James Cage White

It’s all fate

[spice cairn]

The entire crew is fate pilled

[blazing depot]

I give up looking for road poneglyphs… it’s not my fate

[spice cairn]

Everyone knows the final glith is inside Loki's tummy

He ate it.

Only under dangerous circumstances will he vomit it out

[grand flower]

Sorry I’m tired

[solid mantle]

One piece is overrated, and it's not worth watching

[spice cairn]

You are worth it

[solid mantle]

🫶

[spice cairn]

Man im so glad also Manga is comfy right now

[bright torrent]

just wait

[spice cairn]

Its over

[grand flower]

🔥

[hot cairn]

dawg this break has been long

[spice cairn]

Another week

https://tenor.com/view/certified-dave-moment-certified-dave-moment-cat-gif-12719509757074583045

[grand flower]

Pretty much cause we been in a two week break if you think about it too hard

[royal orchid]

saw this post just now

https://fixupx.com/RyePiece/status/2007892063048909267?t=SRBnraAuAPM3-oFl69KyVw&s=19

Rye (@RyePiece)

Hancock is literally the older version of herself

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FixupX · Jan 4, 2026, 7:09 PM

[spice cairn]

Is she really an older version of herself

Is she really?

[solid mantle]

NO WAY

[spice cairn]

For a second I thought she was the oldest variant of Glorisa

[unique lagoon]

[cobalt kelp]

!cook

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1211111343852228638/1217510693411229746/cook.png?ex=66044a31&is=65f1d531&hm=fda7fc91afb3dda1c7a90192efda3372e268931d0bcc5db2b97d635b65b260ae&

[cobalt kelp]

That's Hancock from chapter 0

[vital heart]

Aloha!

[grand flower]

Yo Meek how you feeling

[vital heart]

Good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk7TV3AzvdQ

New Tekking Video Out Now

Is Portgas a reference to Portugal?

[hearty shore]

they're all either aura farming or cave diving

only the goat WB + the revo's (just iva but put them to shit on the roger pirates anyway) showed up

and parts of cross guild as well

• luffy and jinbe so parts of the SH's technically

everyone showed up except the crewmates of ace's father (excluding shanks and buggy)

[vale heath]

Portgaz D. Ace’s execution is a very clever reference to Portgaz D. Ace, a character in One Piece.

[pulsar timber]

Hmm. GOda

[wraith mantle]

peak

[somber rivet]

Never expected to see Lilin and Gloriosa as friends, but here we are

[latent hamlet]

That tiger is top 5 in the verse

[somber rivet]

They are besties

[latent hamlet]

U say friends but they're probably calling each other fat fucks

[somber rivet]

That's just how friendship works

Insulting until you become the best mate of the other.

[blazing depot]

They’re best buds in the sense Gloriosa can call Linkin a popcorn factory without getting beat up

[somber rivet]

Not like she is lying tho.

But yeah.

[mental lake]

TEKKING POSTED LETS GOOOOOO

[olive sigil]

You’re an evil cookie

Now you insult me back

And then we’ll be best friends

[mental lake]

Gil bastaar probably took the photo

[olive sigil]

Look the version I sent

[blazing depot]

Gill Bastar fans when you ask them what happened in the Wanted one shot

[mental lake]

You edited him in

[olive sigil]

I’ll say the same thing as the Shiki fans

[blazing depot]

The amount of Shiki fans who haven’t or avoid watching Strong World is very funny

Chapter Zero and IGNORE EVERYTHING ELSE

[olive sigil]

I like him for who he is in the manga, I don’t care for the other stuff

[blazing depot]

I like Shiki, he’s just a jackass lol

[olive sigil]

I did however read Wanted

[olive sigil]

I don’t read chapter 0

Out of principle

[dense haven]

chapter 0 shouldn't even be canon

[olive sigil]

It isn’t

[blazing depot]

It’s so transparently a tie in to the movie it’s kind of funny seeing people do mental gymnastics ignoring stuff like this

Either they’re both canon or neither is

[dense haven]

neither are

oda is just making a shit ass movie ad

[olive sigil]

It’s not because oda made it that it’s canon

It’s just another story by the same author

[blazing depot]

Oda made both so my logic is their both canon

Also it’s the answer that pisses off everyone

[olive sigil]

I use the volume logic

[dense haven]

its just an ad

[olive sigil]

I buy the one piece volumes, it’s not in the volumes

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/view/shanks-red-one-piece-commercial-ad-gif-2807538414632190806

[olive sigil]

It’s not on the one piece section of manga plus

Of the Shonen jump app

[dense haven]

odas greed ruined one piece

[dark nymph]

any new about next op movie

[grand flower]

it ain't going well

[olive sigil]

It’s on its way

[thick mango]

probably not this year

[olive sigil]

It’s a movie about fisher tiger

[olive sigil]

It’s coming out in 4 days

I’m making it

[thick mango]

are you all the parts?

[olive sigil]

There’s only 2 roles

Me as fisher tiger and you as shanks

[thick mango]

this makes sense, i have many of the good qualities of shanks

[olive sigil]

You’re the bad guy in the movie

[thick mango]

im a mary sue irl until one day someone with more plot armor is gonna come get me

[olive sigil]

Shanks loses in this movie

[thick mango]

to bb?

[olive sigil]

To me

As fisher tiger

[thick mango]

maybe fisher tiger can go save flevance

[olive sigil]

The movie is the extended cut of the fisher tiger flashback

In which fisher confronts shanks and tells him to back off

Beats him up using his coc

And then it ends with him saying, I could have saved those people without you

[thick mango]

also i visited flevance and nothing bad is happening there anyone who tells you stories about there is making them up for sympathy

[olive sigil]

Law put white paint on himself and pretended to be sick

[wraith mantle]

That tiger no diffs ragnir

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-nuke-truth-true-soyjak-wojak-gif-14828627546768133163

[glacial bear]

Wait so this is canon and is this chapter zero?

[distant vine]

Currently cooking up a new anime opening tier list

[grand flower]

chapter zero is canon supremacy!!!

[distant vine]

Just reached Hands Up

Crazy how much Law being put into the story in Post TS impacted the series for the better

[olive sigil]

[olive sigil]

It ruined it

[distant vine]

Oh brother here he comes...

[olive sigil]

Pre time skip was better

[distant vine]

It's not

[thick mango]

i think as of right now prets is better but thats only because it had its climacitc ending and post-ts hasnt yet

i expect by the end, post-ts will be better

[olive sigil]

The best parts of post time skip are coming now that law is gone

[thick mango]

i keep telling you, youre in for a rude awakening

law's coming back in a big way, probably will be the most important supernova by the end, and likely will tag along to laugh tale

[distant vine]

Bro imagine reading this the week it came out...

Dressrosa's so fire 😭

We need something like this again

A 1v1v1 between three hype characters

[thick mango]

loki maybe?

i really hope loki has his own agenda of some kind

i want some loki twist so bad i think him just like.. being a good ally and helping us save the day is so boring

[distant vine]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-hard-knock-days-zoro-sanji-hard-gif-20373651

[olive sigil]

I told you that I’m not scared to quit if things go badly. I’ll enjoy stuff while it lasts

[blazing mantle]

Oda doing anything EXCEPT including the goat

[distant vine]

This opening carried me so hard through that last stretch of Dressrosa

[blazing mantle]

Idk what’s he so scared of

[thick mango]

would you give it a chance to maybe be good or is it doa?

[olive sigil]

Him coming back isn’t a problem, he probably will and I’ll be grumpy but something like him being with the crew on laugh tale is an instant no

[blazing mantle]

Does he know

[thick mango]

i kinda think a few of the non-crew allies should get to go

[distant vine]

You cant let characters become your boogeyman

[thick mango]

vivi, carrot, yamato, loki, law

[distant vine]

I impose my will on the series and every character that annoys me is pushed out

[blazing mantle]

Lowkey a carrot sneak

[olive sigil]

He can get there on his own, there’s no reason to have him arrive on the sunny like a strawhat

[thick mango]

shes my least favorite in the list but she was a close sh ally

[blazing mantle]

Alright I’ll allow it

[blazing mantle]

Man he needs some help

Don’t you miss law

[olive sigil]

No

[blazing mantle]

All those fun times had by all

https://tenor.com/view/trafalgar-law-one-piece-one-piece-law-gif-20956074

[olive sigil]

I almost quit during wano. Egghead saved me

[blazing mantle]

Ultra hating isn’t a good look

[olive sigil]

Look how bitter he looks

[blazing mantle]

Law is NOT that bad

[blazing mantle]

He’s trying to maintain aura chill

Passive aura farming

[distant vine]

Guy cant be serious 💔

[blazing mantle]

Sanjuan is like the only law hater I know

[olive sigil]

He should enjoy life from time to time

[thick mango]

hes definitely up there in supernovas, he might be #1

[olive sigil]

Not even top 20

[olive sigil]

That’s ok I don’t need other people

[thick mango]

excluding zoro and luffy
bege > law > bonney > killer > kid > x drake > apoo > hawkins > urouge

[blazing mantle]

Is this on how much you like them

[olive sigil]

Sure exclude the best ones for no reason

[blazing mantle]

Or strength

[thick mango]

yes thats always what its about

any time im powerscaling im probably just trolling a little bit

[blazing mantle]

Lowkey this list is kinda valid

Not bad bub

Swap law and bege though

[olive sigil]

Luffy barto ace zoro Bonney caribou Capone cavendish coribou urouge auquin apoo killer Kidd drake the end

[blazing mantle]

Auquin?

[olive sigil]

Basile

[blazing mantle]

Oh

[ornate tartan]

urouge at the bottom w

[thick mango]

urouge has to do something to earn a spot

[ornate tartan]

that’s fair

[thick mango]

hanging out on clouds and commenting on things doesnt count

[distant vine]

Gonna spoil the tier list. There's ONE moment in Super Powers thats keeping it from trash tier

[ornate tartan]

idk why some ppl think u said something crazy when u tell them u don’t like urouge

[prisma idol]

You hate Believe?

[ornate tartan]

bro hasn’t done jack😂 he just exists

[thick mango]

i dont like or dislike him, theres nothing there to engage with

yeah lol exactly

[olive sigil]

Urouge is a nothing burger

[distant vine]

Absolutely

[blazing mantle]

He sneak snack tho

Best snack

Not sneak

BEAT

[olive sigil]

Lowkey the fact that he doesn’t get involved as much makes me like him a bit more

[wraith mantle]

The peak must be at the top

[thick mango]

I get what youre saying and theres a place for someone to have a more minor impact but it feels like zero impact to me at this point, not minor

[prisma idol]

Why is every OPtuber pushing the Usopp wields ragnir stuff. Did arsal pay them all off?

[thick mango]

its not that crazy an idea

[distant vine]

We'll see

[olive sigil]

Because it’s going to happen

[distant vine]

ONE DREAM, ONE WISH

[prisma idol]

[prisma idol]

Also is that One Day in D?

[thick mango]

ok lets reverse it, why do you think it wont happen?

[prisma idol]

Smh smh

[distant vine]

Sanjuan who's your second most hated character

[distant vine]

Yup

[thick mango]

he uses a hammer in the past, has an association with elbaf, and has a tendency to make his lies true.

[wraith mantle]

Punk hazard opening is not bad

[distant vine]

Boring opening

[prisma idol]

You only chance at redemption is having Kokoro no Chizu in Top 3

[hot cairn]

yeah this is why I didn’t want to get the chapter early

[thick mango]

im a milquetoast fence sitter i dont really have an opinion on usopp ragnir but im wondering why people feel strongly against it

[fallen meteor]

Which one is this one

[prisma idol]

Op 5

Water 7

[ornate tartan]

but there might be 4 chapters in a row like last year coming up

[prisma idol]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-anime-luffy-zoro-nami-gif-16667742

[hot cairn]

Op2 is so bad

[ornate tartan]

a good trade off

[distant vine]

It really is

[dark nymph]

Oh this one is my 2nd favorite e

[hot cairn]

hopefully 🙏🏽

[distant vine]

OP 2 after We Are is so funny

[olive sigil]

I prefer him doing nothing than doing too much. The worst urouge has done is not exist and he doesn’t matter. Meanwhile others have been pissing me off for a long time and they keep making me miserable

[prisma idol]

It did give whiplash

[ornate tartan]

1136 1137 1138 and 1139 came out consecutively to start 2025

[dark nymph]

1st is op14

[ornate tartan]

after the long break from christmas

[hot cairn]

I still have hope that Oda has some plans for him eventually

[fallen meteor]

I like Superpowers because it sounds like there's a chorus of aliens saying "su per po weers" on the background

[hot cairn]

hes really the only supernova that hasnt gotten anything

[distant vine]

Dude

[prisma idol]

Tenshi to Akuma is pretty good.

[hot cairn]

banger stretch of chapters too

[distant vine]

What could have been...

Just for a couple of chapters...thats all I would need

🥹

[hot cairn]

I remember the people who wanted all the strawhats vs Kaido

[wraith mantle]

All of egghead openings are top tier

[dark nymph]

the newer op openings don’t hit the same

[hot cairn]

it was always a far away dream

[hot cairn]

the new openings are peak

[fallen meteor]

The new openings are just qualityslop

They dont hit as good because they are all very good

[wraith mantle]

The recent opening is objectively peak

Song and visuals

[prisma idol]

The only one I havent watched because I havent watch the anime since the Kuma FB is Carmine

[near scroll]

haave you seen ragnirs height

[fallen meteor]

They can't be peak because if everything is peak it's like a plateau

[thick mango]

its magical physcial stuf like that doesnt matter at all imo

[dark nymph]

the visuals are top tier I will admit that

Especially egghead

[olive sigil]

Coribou hasn’t gotten much either

[fallen meteor]

The man marked by flames

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-opening-egghead-vivi-vivi-one-piece-gif-14994376272425018775

[ornate tartan]

https://x.com/rakkarts/status/2008020642030141946?s=46

Rakka Arts (@Rakkarts)

Luffy & his Daughter 😆🍖

.

#nami #rakkarts #luffy #fanart #luffyxnami #fatherdaughter

X · Jan 5, 2026, 3:40 AM

[hot cairn]

it’s really good

[dark nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-opening-egghead-bonney-bonney-one-piece-gif-2480815244179800034

[hot cairn]

he aint a supernova

[fallen meteor]

The roundest head ever

[dark nymph]

Luna

[prisma idol]

Indeed

[dark nymph]

Oh he has a luffyxnami tag I didn’t even notice lol

[distant vine]

Meanwhile Brand New World couldnt even get all of Enies Lobby...

[olive sigil]

He is

[prisma idol]

HASHIRIDASE

[thick mango]

is demaro black a supernova?

[olive sigil]

He’s not

[prisma idol]

Ye

[thick mango]

duality of man

[olive sigil]

He only had 26 million bounty

[thick mango]

so hes worst gen but not supernova

[olive sigil]

He’s neither because worst gen is luffy’s generation

[thick mango]

isnt he luffys generation?

2 years later isnt a new generation

[olive sigil]

He came 2 years after

Luffy’s generation is the ones on sabaody + teach

[grand flower]

worst generation is the supernova and blackbeard

demarco is technically part of his generation in a literal sense

[olive sigil]

There’s people in the supernova who aren’t worst gen

[grand flower]

as in they became pirates in the same era

there aren't

well

[thick mango]

if anything bb isnt really luffy's generation which is weird

[hot cairn]

nahh

[grand flower]

yeah that's true, cavendish was a supernova years prior

[thick mango]

i guess his solo career is in his generation

[olive sigil]

So was ace

[thick mango]

but bb is an old man

[cerulean lake]

Tbf dreaming on deserved all 69 episodes

[olive sigil]

Then after there’s barto, caribou, coribou

[cerulean lake]

It’s a banger

[thick mango]

bb is older than shanks

[hot cairn]

dreamin on was the opening that was playing when I first started reading OP

[olive sigil]

But he had his breakthrough at the same time

[hot cairn]

I remember watching that opening very confused

[thick mango]

yeah fair

[distant vine]

Holy nakama bait

On the swing????

[hot cairn]

this will be Loki in the next opening

more Nakama bait

[grand flower]

on the swing

[thick mango]

i wonder if there would be a consistent or disproportionately popular answer for which almost-strawhat would you prefer had joined

[dapper tree]

she's joining when kuma dies again

[thick mango]

Who shoulda joined ?

[wraith mantle]

Bonney

[dapper tree]

vivi joins when the revos are wiped off the face of the earth

[spice cairn]

Did somebody call?

[wraith mantle]

Damn you didn’t like the last two egghead openings that much huh?

[spice cairn]

Oh it was Khalid

[wraith mantle]

What

[spice cairn]

Is it obvious?

Should've been Bonney naturally

Though she needs a rest.

12 year olds shouldnt have to constantly be exposed to this sort of thing anymore. Especially for her mentally

[distant vine]

I like them but I just like them

[fallen meteor]

Bonney needs to seek education

[distant vine]

Everything B and above I have positive feelings on

[spice cairn]

With Lilith

[dapper tree]

what are ya? a nerd?

[fallen meteor]

Like you

[spice cairn]

Bonney needs a scholarship on Eblaf

[dapper tree]

dang

ya got me

[spice cairn]

Pasta youre a big fat nerd

[distant vine]

@prisma idol Kokoro no Chizu is still my favorite

[dapper tree]

uncalled for

[fallen meteor]

[distant vine]

Us! takes it in like sheer spectacle but Kokoro no Chizu takes the story moments better imo

[spice cairn]

Might start doing Book Reports for every OP arc I reread from the start

[dapper tree]

🏃‍♂️

[distant vine]

https://tenor.com/view/kokoro-no-chizu-one-piece-opening-gif-19582299

[prisma idol]

Always should be

[distant vine]

Like this is just insane to me

[olive sigil]

Carrot

[prisma idol]

I like the timing of the music with the visuals

[olive sigil]

We won

[thick mango]

cant argue with that

[distant vine]

Having to team up with Sanjuan is crazy

[olive sigil]

What’s wrong with teaming up with me?

[distant vine]

We're usually very opposed

[olive sigil]

You’re right once in a while

[indigo yacht]

Paulie

[prisma idol]

Check again

[indigo yacht]

Where the hell is Paulie

[olive sigil]

Erasure

[indigo yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/onepiece-one-piece-op-shipwright-galley-la-gif-10595753663190207084

[alpine frigate]

Where is gaimon

[dapper tree]

carrot was robbed

[wraith mantle]

Carrot didn’t have a tragic enough backstory

She didn’t stand a chance

[blazing depot]

Poor carrot

Born in a loving middle class family in Zou

[dapper tree]

her parents aren't real

[wraith mantle]

If your childhood wasn’t ass, forget about joining the crew

[dapper tree]

she stole pedro's

[proud pivot]

whys vivi going to be a part of the crew then

it should be yamato

[dapper tree]

she had an argument one time

[proud pivot]

oh yeah thats kinda sad

[wraith mantle]

I would argue Yamatos story is not tragic enough

It’s between Bonny and Loki

Real tear jerker stuff

[proud pivot]

bonney cant join cus she isnt above discord tos age

so loki then

[dapper tree]

who will take care of bonney if not the SHs since kuma and lilith are gonna die

[proud pivot]

they arent tho

[dapper tree]

oh they are

[proud pivot]

the revos will take care of her then

[dapper tree]

they are gonna get wiped out by BB and the HKs

[proud pivot]

no

[dapper tree]

too late

[proud pivot]

maybe bonney should just stay in elbaf then

after the arc is over

[dapper tree]

elbaf is in shambles

[hot cairn]

Carrot sucks

[dapper tree]

so mean

and wrong

carrot top 8

[shadow python]

Yamatos backstory is like Sanjis in that she was jailed but unlike Judge Kaido seemed like he intended for him to die

[hazy echo]

https://x.com/JamiUwUs/status/2008647013467123887

Jami ᵘʷᵘ✨🌺ジャミ (@JamiUwUs)

What? 😂

X · Jan 6, 2026, 9:09 PM

[shadow python]

Say what you want about Judge, but he did technically have a soft spot for his blood

[blazing depot]

This is 100% doctored votes by furries

[dapper tree]

LOL

[blazing depot]

STOP THE COUNT

[shadow python]

If it was by furries why is Chopper so low?

Isn't he supposed to be a mascot character?

[olive sigil]

The furries thing just existed to discredit carrot fans

[blazing depot]

I don’t think furries find Chopper attractive 😔

[olive sigil]

Stupid people who can’t read and think you can only like a character for their looks

[blazing depot]

You know I’m right…

[shadow python]

I didn't think we were voting on the sexual appeal of the characters

[blazing depot]

https://tenor.com/view/search-your-feelings-you-know-gif-5340126

[dapper tree]

huh weird how ace got 2 spots in the top 10

[shadow python]

A lot of people are really lusting after rubber boy then

[dense haven]

not even furries what to associate with carrot fans

[blazing depot]

Everyone in the top 10 is handsome. Coincidence? I think NOT!

[shadow python]

Carrot was cool. Got her flashback tragedy in real time

I was interested in learning more about the electro power she had. Wonder why the other minks don't use it

[olive sigil]

Yeah but people use it as an excuse to insult carrot fans

[ocean totem]

Why Bonney and not Kuma?

[fast pagoda]

I know the Carrot fan payola was crazy

[olive sigil]

I don’t want to associate with them

[fast pagoda]

We really need a new popularity poll

[dapper tree]

BEAN

[ocean totem]

aaaaaaaaaay

[dapper tree]

Did you see my message ealier

[ocean totem]

we scalin?

[blazing depot]

Socrates builds a bot that votes in Loki a thousand times

[dapper tree]

I am down, lol

[fast pagoda]

Loki is probably getting in top 20 at least

[ocean totem]

Oh god lmao, too many wish.com Galileos in this chat

[hot cairn]

the world has too many furries

[dapper tree]

lmao

[blazing depot]

Anyways I think it’ll be worse just because agenda piece is a thing

[fast pagoda]

I see Rocks very high up

[blazing depot]

And now that the fandom is MUCH Bigger

[vapid flower]

I think Loki scales to high admiral level

[dapper tree]

ehhh, maybe

[vapid flower]

Loki pre ragnir probably high yc1

[hazy echo]

We'll prob get another popularity poll this or next year

[vestal mural]

Pre or post TS admirals tho?

[ocean totem]

I'll do it one better

[dapper tree]

That's the same

[ocean totem]

Loki probably qualifies right up there with the Emperors

[hot cairn]

probably on the 30th anniversary

[vapid flower]

hmm maybe 1.5 years post ts

[proud pivot]

loki is stronger than kaido

[dapper tree]

no

[vapid flower]

I think you on the skooma bean

u too Arisu

[vestal mural]

You really think so? Is it because of the latest chap?

[hot cairn]

@sage temple will love this one

[proud pivot]

yes

[ocean totem]

Yeh, just seeing how he took on Harald

[vapid flower]

took on? Does that count?

[ocean totem]

Honestly you could reasonably put him higher than even Kaido or Roger if you wanted to get nutty with it

[dapper tree]

You think he's top 5?

[ocean totem]

yessir

[dapper tree]

That crazy

[ocean totem]

He genuinely could be yeh

[vapid flower]

bean I will disrespectfully disagree

[ocean totem]

I wouldn't put him over everyone yet, but Harald was a dude who could swap hands with Xebec and look good

Then he got enhanced over that from Imu's power, including regen and all

[vestal mural]

I wouldn’t go that far lmao

[ocean totem]

Loki didn't just beat him, Loki wrecked him harder than we've seen someone get beat on since Kaido one shot Luffy back in Kuri

[vapid flower]

ragnir

[dapper tree]

I don't think harold was stronger than l;ike prime roger or WB

[ocean totem]

It isn't just that he beats Harald, it's that he beats him so bad the dude comes back to his senses

[vestal mural]

Yup

[ocean totem]

That was before Loki uses Ragnir, that was just bare handed

[dapper tree]

so I don't think loki scales that high

[vapid flower]

when god powerscales his creations, will a squirrel not be part of the tier list?

[shadow python]

Harald was a match for Rocks and possessed Harald should be stronger. Lokis feat here is the 3rd most impressive in the series

[dapper tree]

The squirrel is good but not that good

[vestal mural]

I’d put Loki around luffy tbh. But def not above Roger

Next you’ll say he’s above joyboy bean

[shadow python]

There's quite the gap between Luffy and Joyboy

[hot cairn]

did Socrates stole your account or something

[vapid flower]

power inflation tbh, I think luffy is well stronger than Loki

[ocean totem]

Shit, what he just did to Harald was damn near an Imu level feat

[vestal mural]

Joyboy is peak power afawk

[celest mauve]

the people who swore luffy is too weak after egghead are not going to have a good time later in elbaf, I'm so sure of it

[dapper tree]

I feel like Luffy is still comfortably above loki, luffy wasn't worried but that could be because luffy knows he's a good guy at heart

[ocean totem]

I'm not saying that's where I stand on it personally, but I can see how people could stretch it that far

[vestal mural]

You’ve lost the plot lmfao

[shadow python]

Loki eviscerated Harald and Luffy wasn't able to beat any of the elders

[sage temple]

Damn right

[ocean totem]

Personally I think he might just be as strong as Kaido

[sage temple]

Loki could be stronger than Shanks

[ocean totem]

Maybe as strong as Luffy at least

[sage temple]

But that's a diff convo

[dapper tree]

bean that seems too much

[hot cairn]

is Loki over WB?

[vapid flower]

Imu level feat omg

[ocean totem]

It's just how he wrecks Harald says a LOT

[dapper tree]

Bean byut harold wasn't that high

[shadow python]

I don't understand why Loki would be seen so weak

[vestal mural]

I can agree with that. Maybe even stronger if you think luffy is stronger than kaido too and not just plot

[ocean totem]

Harald was strong enough to at least put up a fight against Xebec

[sage temple]

If Shanks >= WB then Loki >= WB as well

[scenic dirge]

What in the fuck

[dapper tree]

yeah but neither harold or rocks were like at prime roger or Wb level

[ocean totem]

And he gets stronger after he does all that 'cause of Imu's power, and Loki wipes the floor with him harder than Katakuri beat on Luffy

[vestal mural]

Where do you put xebec tho

[vapid flower]

in a true fight xebec would crush haralds family having ass

[scenic dirge]

Have I been hacked

[sage temple]

People hate to see Loki up in these conversations

[ocean totem]

That's a good question

[vestal mural]

Yes

[ocean totem]

Personally I've always thought Xebec was just where Roger and Whitebeard end up getting

[sage temple]

How do we know when Roger's prime was

[ocean totem]

At their peaks

[vapid flower]

huh

interesting

[dapper tree]

that seems a bit much

[vapid flower]

welp we could use another Evan

[dapper tree]

I feel like rocks would def get there

[vapid flower]

old one was getting stale

[dapper tree]

if he lived

[shadow python]

Prime Roger > dying Roger and dying Roger = Prime Whitebeard

[vestal mural]

New year new Evan

[sage temple]

Pasta it's fine we know you hate Loki being strong is your greatest fear

[ocean totem]

Roger wasn't weakened when he fought Whitebeard

Sick, not weak

[dapper tree]

I have him at number 10

[sage temple]

How is GV Roger not prime Roger?

[shadow python]

When he was terminally ill and 1 year away from death he wasn't weaker?

[vestal mural]

I like to believe that Roger, wb, and xebec were all equal

[vapid flower]

I put Loki at 143.4 Charlotte ovens

[sage temple]

I have him 1 place above or below Shanks

[dapper tree]

so 2nd strongest in the verse, ok

[sage temple]

If Shanks is 3 Loki is 2 or 4

[shadow python]

Gv Roger was too young. I imagine he got stronger since then as at that point he was about even with Prime Garp

[vestal mural]

69 charlotte snack sir

[sage temple]

You think Shanks is 3rd strongest in the verse

So yeah

That's how places work

[ocean totem]

^ I'll even put Kaido up there tbh

[dapper tree]

Shanks is second strongest

[vestal mural]

I wouldn’t be mad at that

[dapper tree]

Imu is the only one above him

[ocean totem]

Loki's right up there with them unless Xebec never really swung for real at Harald

[vapid flower]

Kaido is King

[hot cairn]

Where is Mip

[vestal mural]

I think I have reservations about Loki since he’s so new

[vestal mural]

Idk ask fleeb

[dapper tree]

same here

[shadow python]

From how it was presented Rocks and Harald were equal. Though if that's the case Rocks is presumably weaker than Squirrel

[dapper tree]

the squirrel has other factors

[vestal mural]

Can’t believe we’re having a coherent power scaling convo with no insults

[dapper tree]

we can change that

[vapid flower]

fuck you evan

[dapper tree]

there we go

[vestal mural]

Fleeb I’m so hurt

[ocean totem]

That's how the seniors do it

[vapid flower]

Bean

Too far

[shadow python]

Power scaling is merely taking established facts and using them to inform decisions

[vapid flower]

[golden valley]

Garp and Roger were equals atp and the former got stronger. Roger had legendary rivals too long after Xebec died, don’t see why he would’ve peaked there

[vestal mural]

Idk man I’m so conflicted about Loki power wise. His level feels unearned for some reason lol

[ocean totem]

It's 'cause he just kind of came onto the scene this way

[vestal mural]

Yea I think that’s it

[ocean totem]

And he really only got his power because of a fruit and a weapon, even though even before it he was a powerhouse for sure

[dapper tree]

he just gets powerups

[shadow python]

Momo is also strong for no real reason even aside from his fruit his body is just better than most

[ocean totem]

But you guys are talking about Ragnir, we see him demolish Harald without it

[vapid flower]

born strong is strong no feats one shots top 10 in verse

[vestal mural]

We’ve known he existed for a good time but he just came onto the scene quite powerful. Like having ACOC when we just met you is odd lol

[dapper tree]

ragnir isn't really a factor besides getting a good weapon

[golden valley]

He has oden genes

Thats why

[sage temple]

Yeah every one of you hate it

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/shanks-whitebeard-rocks-and-roger-gif-26204024

[ocean totem]

It's kind of interesting

[vestal mural]

Yea Ragnar isn’t a factor for me

[sage temple]

Yall are like birds protecting the nest when it comes to Loki surpassing them

[ocean totem]

'cause without Ragnir he's still strong enough to wreck someone as powerful as Harald possessed

[vestal mural]

I don’t hate it. It just feels weird

[dapper tree]

that doesn't make sense

[shadow python]

Loki pre fruit was scaled as superior to Shanks or Gaban. Gaban believes only he would be able to stop Harald

[ocean totem]

but then he picks up Ragnir and it's strong enough to kill Harald in one blow, even though he did let it happen at that point

So Ragnir really is a marvel too

[trim fossil]

I know what you mean

[sage temple]

It shouldn't though he's well established and theres a good reason for his power

[dapper tree]

I don't think that is correct either

[sage temple]

Maybe because he's a new character ig

[vapid flower]

all of u have to realize shanks is the mc, he is the top one, this opinion is entirely invalid and baseless but it will be the correct one

[dapper tree]

Ragnir is strong but it's not just about beating ragnir

[vestal mural]

He was?

[golden valley]

I think its because of Xebec and Harald

[vestal mural]

I’m not saying he isn’t. It just feels off lol

[golden valley]

But the reality is tht they were surpassed

[dapper tree]

harold could have beaten ragnir but it was also about getting ragnir to accept you

[sage temple]

Alr

[vestal mural]

Like I would have loved to see lokis journey

[sage temple]

Yeah well it's comfortable to me honestly

[vestal mural]

But there’s no time for that I guess

[ocean totem]

Yeh it was about getting ragnir to accept you too, although it's weird Loki did it but Harald couldn't

[trim fossil]

I don't think it's bad. He's just a new character that's very strong and didn't have the build-up like a lot of the other titans that we've seen in the series

[sage temple]

And Loki is potentially stronger than Shanks

[trim fossil]

But it's not bad

[vestal mural]

Yea that’s another weird thing

[golden valley]

Actually Harald is what truly makes it weird.

[vapid flower]

I love how Evan just quietly ducked out of the convo

[shadow python]

Harald inferred that it was a skill issue. That now that he had imu power it would be fine

[unique lagoon]

oh you mean when they where waiting for loki to get the DF?

[golden valley]

Maybe Harald didn’t reach his peak strength?

[vestal mural]

Wdym I’m still here

[golden valley]

Or maybe Rocks Prime would’ve been above Harald’s

[vestal mural]

This was wild ngl

[dapper tree]

harald could beat up ragnir but if ragnir didn't like his vibes then oh well. Possessed harald wouldn't care about the respect thing and just take the fruit

[sage temple]

People try so hard to act like Gaban and Shanks could've done it themselves and Loki wasn't needed lmao

[dapper tree]

Shanks also didn't wanna kill harald

[celest mauve]

first time ever oda has not glazed shanks

[golden valley]

Because I think Immortal Harald is the strongest Harald could’ve been discounting a fruit buff

[vapid flower]

Huge point

[glacial bear]

Shanks wasn’t at his peak it seems.

[sage temple]

Neither did Loki

[vestal mural]

Loki was def needed. Shanks and gaban failing to end it is just wild

[vapid flower]

neither of them wanted to kill harald

[hot cairn]

I still think we’ll have a mini flashback of how exactly and why did Ragnir find Loki worthy

[ocean totem]

Nah, it'll be a current thing I bet

[sage temple]

Yeah well too bad honestly they gotta get stronger

[trim fossil]

I don't see any reason why Harald couldn't've beaten Ragnir

Yeah

[ocean totem]

Loki's character exploration once he gets free

[sage temple]

Oh brother

Neither did Loki

[shadow python]

Neither Shanks nor Gyaban are fruit eaters either of them could have taken the fruit over Loki. But Gyaban still viewed Loki as the best option

[ocean totem]

Apparently he didn't feel he was strong enough before

[vapid flower]

Loki resolved himself at the end

[sage temple]

You're acting like they were keeping him alive on purpose or something

[vestal mural]

I just need more context for Loki. Let me know more about him

[hot cairn]

he was threatened by the appearance of another Evan

[dapper tree]

Yeah the respect part really amtters, no one could tame or get ragnir to like them

[sage temple]

Loki killed him because he had to

[vestal mural]

I love Loki but he doesn’t have enough for me rn

[sage temple]

Shanks and Gaban knew there was no other way but to kill Harald

But they couldnt

[dapper tree]

Sure you could just kill ragnir but that's like giant culture

[sage temple]

So they let Loki

[vapid flower]

the clearly haven’t tried

[shadow python]

One reason Harald couldn't beat Squirrel is because he was too weak

[sage temple]

They clearly have

[ocean totem]

Oh shit it's mip

I did not notice lmao

[vapid flower]

based solely on what we’ve seen them do they were not fully trying

[distant vine]

Shanks didnt want to kill Harald btw

[shadow python]

We can't just ignore the simplest explanation. Squirrel is just too strong

[unique lagoon]

hes giving him character now
now i wonder how oda will give him a sob story
sure mom died and all but he was enjoying life with roger
then roger died soo whats next

[vestal mural]

I love how only they noticed

[sage temple]

You're trying so hard to make it seem like everyone Loki surpassed weren't even trying in the scenario they're proven weaker than him

[dapper tree]

not that strong

[ocean totem]

I don't see names, I just see colors

[vapid flower]

Im actually not trying at all im reading the manga

[vestal mural]

Evan could never have a coherent convo like me

[sage temple]

Loki didn't want to kill Harald either

[vapid flower]

he resolved himself

[distant vine]

Thats messed up dude

I only read nicknames

[trim fossil]

At some point in the past. I imagine it was when he was in his "teenage" years i.e. 16 in human years but 40 somethings in real time. Prime Harald should've been able to beat Ragnir. I think it's weird if he couldn't've

[vapid flower]

He didn’t see a way out and did it at the request of his father

[distant vine]

I cant investigate all your usernames 😭

[vapid flower]

the other two were searching for an answer that wasn’t there

[sage temple]

What were they trying to do then

[sage temple]

The other two were trying to kill Harald

They didn't want to but they were trying to

[vapid flower]

they were searching for an answer that wasn’t there

[sage temple]

They were trying to kill Harald

[vapid flower]

they hadn’t resolved themselves yet

no

[sage temple]

Why hit Harald in the first place then

?

[dapper tree]

they were not trying to killhim

[shadow python]

Gyaban heard from Shanks how hopeless Harold's situation was. Shanks is the one who explained to Gyaban how hopeless it was. Loki amongst the 3 is the only one who thought his father could be saved. I would argue he's the one who wanted to kill Harald the least

[vapid flower]

bc if they didn’t they’d get hit back???

[sage temple]

They were trying to kill him

[vestal mural]

I think lokis behavior all his life makes the weight of having to kill his father kinda meaningless ngl. I loved how he grieved ida but this wasn’t doing much for me tbh

[ocean totem]

To keep him at bay

[sage temple]

Also do we even know if they CAN kill regen users?

[vapid flower]

Okay that’s cool that you think that but you’re wrong

[ocean totem]

They weren't trying to kill him

[sage temple]

Yeah, to stall for someone who actually can do the job

[ocean totem]

They sure can

[sage temple]

Lie

[shadow python]

Gyaban talked smack about killing immortals but I see zero kills from him

[sage temple]

Gaban talked smack about making them feel pain

[vapid flower]

he’s old

[dapper tree]

I forget that this means they want to kill harald

[sage temple]

He never said he could kill them

[vapid flower]

At least 30

[dapper tree]

silly me

[vestal mural]

Shanks and gaban? Yes for sure. They have Enough ACOC

[shadow python]

And his brilliant technique for killing them is hitting them really hard

[distant vine]

Socrates likes to post the panel of Gaban saying "Only Loki can do this" ignoring thats in response to Shanks saying he wants to save Harald

[vapid flower]

Aw yeah I’m wrong they definitely wanted to kill harald

[sage temple]

They have enough ACOC to make them feel a lot of pain

Gaban encountered Sommers multiple times

[ocean totem]

He's the one who introduces the idea

And we know how it's done now

They definitely can, the question is which one

[vestal mural]

If you don’t believe they can kill them idk what to say lol. Their top tiers of top tiers

[dapper tree]

they can kill HKs if they wanted to based on what we know, esp shanks now

[sage temple]

He didn't kill them though

[sage temple]

Where does he say "I know how to kill them"

[sage temple]

Okay well it's an assumption that they can nonetheless

[shadow python]

He says they're not really immortal

[sage temple]

Not really the case

[ocean totem]

When he yells at them that the immortals can be killed

[sage temple]

Gaban doesn't say he can kill them

[shadow python]

Which in hindsight could just be because he knew Loki killed Harald

[sage temple]

Yeah, why wouldn't he? Loki killed Harald

[dapper tree]

how is it not when shanks has the best haki in the verse

[ocean totem]

Yes, which means he knows how to do it

[vapid flower]

literal WiFi haki

[dapper tree]

and could already hurt HKs way back when

[sage temple]

Or he saw Loki do it and is telling them to do the same

[distant vine]

I don't have definitive evidence for Shanks > Loki in that section of the flashback. I can absolutely say Shanks didnt go all out with intent to kill though

[sage temple]

Shanks gave up because he knew he couldn't

[blazing depot]

Yeah Shanks arrested him right

He had to hold back

He can’t kill him

[sage temple]

Just not the truth

[vapid flower]

no you missed the page where shanks said “I’m going to kill that man” and “im going all out right now” then “wow I can’t kill him please Loki save my fraud ass”

[blazing depot]

I feel like you’ll be humbled real soon in a few chapters

[golden valley]

Shanks Haki > Loki’s haki

[vapid flower]

I see it now

[sage temple]

I feel like you’ll be humbled real soon in a few chapters

[blazing depot]

Bet?

[sage temple]

Not really definite at all lol

[dapper tree]

shanks has some of the best haki feats in the verse

[golden valley]

Lord have mercy

[sage temple]

I could say the same in Loki's favor

[golden valley]

Delusional

[fallen meteor]

Buying a god funkopop

[sage temple]

Loki is arguably stronger than Shanks

[shadow python]

Loki killing Harald is arguably the 2nd greatest haki feat in the series

[dapper tree]

not really

[sage temple]

Oh yeah I forgot the panel where Gaban says "I've killed a HK before"

[vapid flower]

oh dang you missed it?

[buoyant comet]

Erm

[shadow python]

From the way this chapter presented it yes. Base Loki was stronger than Shanks.

The caveat is we know 6 years after this Loki ends up captured due in large part to Shanks suggesting Shanks somehow got stronger than him

[dapper tree]

I also forgot when they said "I wanna kill harald"

[vapid flower]

bro got tied to a tree

[dapper tree]

he just got stronger

bigger growth rate

[distant vine]

How about he gave up because he was hoping Loki could break through to Harald. That would be in line with him wanting to save him

[golden valley]

Joyboy’s is obv top 1
Rocks Solo Sky splitting (implies a god-tier haki), Garp and Roger combined critical mass haki attack on DR Rocks or Loki killing Harald. These are the contenders

[buoyant comet]

Ppl act like characters can't grow stronger

[sage temple]

Big Mom got tied to a boat by Queen. Does this mean Big Mom is weaker than Queen?

No

[ocean totem]

Gaban wouldn't say Loki is their only hope if he didn't already know how to get rid of them

[sage temple]

So you can pipe down feeb

[vapid flower]

[vestal mural]

!cope

[tropic nova]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/833429585186127872/948077605100331038/unknown.png

[shadow python]

Sky splitting is nice and all but that's a pre gear 5 Luffy feat.

Loki killed an immortal who was on Rocks' level. I would say that's more impressive than anything Rocks himself did

[vestal mural]

Oh

[honest garden]

Remember Shanks wasn't Barto level

[vestal mural]

!cope2

[sage temple]

He would say Loki is their only hope if he didn't have the ability to kill them

[dapper tree]

shanks pulled every dirty move in the book to beat loki, trust me guys

[vapid flower]

shanks got done in by a smoke bomb Tbf

[sage temple]

Yeah it's automatically cope whenever I make a valid argument that says otherwise

[shadow python]

Garp and Roger working together couldn't kill a possessed Rocks.

[sage temple]

And you can't disprove it

[dapper tree]

those weren't valid

[sage temple]

They definitely were

[golden valley]

But it was a solo sky splitting, its like an individuals Haki reaching a new level of transcendence. Reaching the heavens alone is notable

[vapid flower]

I can’t disprove hallucinations

[shadow python]

But Loki by himself killed a possessed Harald

[dapper tree]

when has shanks used any of that

[vapid flower]

shanks used reject dials apparently

[sage temple]

When has Shanks used Seastone Chains to tie someone up

[distant vine]

Why cant Socrates just take poison out the sentence

[sage temple]

Does this mean it wasn't Shanks

[distant vine]

It would sound so much more serious that way

[buoyant comet]

Well your argument is based on assumptions that contradict the implications of shanks being the only one strong enough to capture Loki.

[distant vine]

😭

[dapper tree]

bruh

what logic is that

[sage temple]

WOW Shanks never used that before

[dapper tree]

Reminding me of yu

[sage temple]

That means it can't happen

[golden valley]

Shanks beat loki

[vapid flower]

should’ve finished him off

[shadow python]

Inconclusive

[golden valley]

Im sorry if you believe Loki > Shanks

[sage temple]

Unconfirmed and unlikely that it proves Shanks is stronger lmao

[golden valley]

Unlikely?!

[sage temple]

I'm sorry if you believe Shanks > Loki

[golden valley]

Brother

[distant vine]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-brook-anime-laughing-laughing-hysterically-gif-16597182

[dapper tree]

this is insane

[golden valley]

Ok ur baiting

[shadow python]

Loki casts doubt on that. And this chapter infers Loki is far stronger than we or at least I assumed prior

[buoyant comet]

Hes serious 😭

[sage temple]

Then stop talking to me

[distant vine]

Shanks gave Loki absinthe

[dapper tree]

loki is stronger than shanks is at the time of the flashback

[distant vine]

[dapper tree]

but that def changes

[sage temple]

My argument is not based on assumptions. My argument is based on the fact that we cannot assume anything

[golden valley]

that depends if i wanna engage in the bait

[sage temple]

You're completely misinterpreting what I'm saying

[vapid flower]

So to be clear you believe Loki is stronger than current shanks?

[buoyant comet]

Nigga youre assuming shit did you read your own message 😭

[sage temple]

You're acting like I'm saying

"FACT: Loki did not fight Shanks or lose to him"

[golden valley]

Change this meme to “No, it’s oda’s that is wrong” when Shanks beats Loki in a 1v1

[sage temple]

Search up the definition of "could"

[shadow python]

Shanks has 2 years to get from here to Mihawks level. After 2 years he loses his arm and is no longer worth fighting. So in 2 years Shanks went from weaker than base Loki to stronger than fruit Loki + Squirrel when Loki has had 6 years to master his new fruit

[sage temple]

Yes

[fallen meteor]

Read this as cloud and was really hyped for a second

[shadow python]

It's not impossible, but I don't think we can say that's the only option or even the most likely option

[sage temple]

Well if you're going to call everything I say bait you might as well just stop talking to me lmao

[hot cairn]

what do you think Adam? Who’s stronger, Shanks or Loki?

[golden valley]

I didn’t say everything you say is bait

[sage temple]

I like this

[strong wadi]

In the flasback? Loki

In the present? Most likely Shanks

[sage temple]

I like this mentality Hanon

[golden valley]

you like it cuz ur bias

lets be real

[vapid flower]

https://tenor.com/view/zaza-expert-meme-based-pawn-stars-gif-26653179

[buoyant comet]

He likes it cuz it's his only viable option to not sound crazy

[sage temple]

Yeah wtv generalization I'm just saying don't talk to me if it's bait

[vapid flower]

welp I just wanted a pawnstars calling in the expert gif but that works too

[buoyant comet]

If you think shanks is weaker then stand on business

[sage temple]

I do think Shanks is weaker

[dapper tree]

crazy

[distant vine]

I think Occam's Razor is good to use when discussing Shanks and Loki's altercation

[sage temple]

But not when discussing whether Loki ate the legendary fruit of Elbaph

[torn osprey]

Our gen will never own a home but dammit we make some good gifs

[sage temple]

In that case it's 50/50 all of a sudden

But for this it's 99/1

[distant vine]

You can say there's a twist, after all Loki did call Shanks a coward. But I'd say the evidence is in Shanks favor rn

[golden valley]

This was always gonna be wrong

[sage temple]

Double standards at it's best

[golden valley]

And honestly, the theories sucked

[sage temple]

Yet Arsal and his goons were relentless

They wouldn't stfu about it

[distant vine]

For the Castle Incident, I'd say Loki has more evidence in his favor

[vapid flower]

Arsal and his goons

[golden valley]

Arsal has goons??

[sage temple]

Yes

[distant vine]

But youre trying to strengthen Loki's side by making it seem Shanks tried everything to beat Harald

[sage temple]

Arsal and his goons

[dapper tree]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-point-pointing-going-inside-gif-25709356

[distant vine]

Thats simply not the case

[shadow python]

It doesn't matter. Gyaban viewed Loki as more likely to succeed than he or Shanks

[sage temple]

Yeah Loki obv doesn't have as much evidence currently because he's been shown so little of

[buoyant comet]

When shanks first met Loki he was clearly weaker but rn he's levels above Loki and this is evident by the fact that a one armed shanks was able to capture Loki

[vapid flower]

But you seem so certain of it though

[distant vine]

I'd say I can argue that's from a character perspective and not a powerscaling one

[hot cairn]

being called Arsal’s goon should be really shameful

[vapid flower]

I can get it being a prediction but you seem so adamant

[sage temple]

Yet they're trying to stengthen Shanks' side by making it seem like Loki was explicitly said to have lost in a 1v1 with Shanks

[shadow python]

From Gyabans pov Loki was stronger than Shanks at base but even assuming they're equals Loki got a devil fruit and squirrel

[dapper tree]

he will never back down

[sage temple]

Oh

I'm adamant

It's me

I'm the one adamant here

[dapper tree]

yes

[vapid flower]

rune plate body

[golden valley]

You got it wrong

[buoyant comet]

Lowkey respect him for it even though he's wrong

[dapper tree]

the moment someone says somehting against loki you like pop off