also-manga

[tranquil blade]

Logistically I dont think it can be Higurashi

[strong wadi]

I don't think Oda would let her "get pregnant and give birth" in a younger body

[tranquil blade]

Unless in one piece you can be like 100 and still have kids

[urban lodge]

In her dreams

[tough igloo]

Kaido really said “ nah “ to the run back with Oden but thought killing the old hag would mean something to Oden lol

[ashen perch]

I thought Higurashi was like 68 when Yamato was born

[digital spear]

Its gonna be some random Geisha in Wano

[vapid flower]

thats still--

[strong wadi]

She died at 85

[ashen perch]

yeah I just checked

[strong wadi]

so 85 -8

[brittle basin]

They for sure already have and more than a few times. The jerk won't answer though 'cause he hates us.

[muted hedge]

most likely

[ashen perch]

I thought she would be at best 76-78 lol

[dense haven]

any squirrel fans in chat?

[ashen perch]

but eh, she does have the fruit...

[tranquil blade]

If she was like 50 maybe

[rose rune]

no, post cat gifs instead

[vapid flower]

hope usopp eats ragnirs fruit after the stupid rodent dies

[muted hedge]

that's true, Oda would rather tell us something completely necessary

[digital spear]

https://tenor.com/view/essica-monthly-squirrel-4th-gif-7612614849559581983

[ashen perch]

that technically allows her to assume a younger form

[misty plover]

I love how people think big mom and Kaido had a child together when they were clearly opps between GV and wano 😭

[ashen perch]

you know that thing Gaban said

[digital spear]

So he becomes the stupid rodent instead

[ashen perch]

thats Higurashi and Kaido, love is free.

[tranquil blade]

You're really pushing this hard

[rose rune]

love finds a way

[tranquil blade]

Kaido was NOT a lover

[muted hedge]

to be honest, given Kaidos position in Wano he probably had a lot of women who'd like to be with him

[rose rune]

oooh, we have an angry ex here

[tranquil blade]

The only thing Kaido loved was alcohol and war

[ashen perch]

look I really believed in this during Wano okay, the more right I am eventually about things in Wano the more sanely I feel about that Arsal

[digital spear]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-drunken-kaido-funny-yonko-four-emperors-gif-15157580461064675246

[misty plover]

Kaido was probably like "Roger and Oden like girls so I must also like a girl" seeing how much he glazes them

[muted hedge]

definitely not

[ashen perch]

Kozuki Moria was nice for example

[tranquil blade]

Kaido is the one night stand type of guy

[digital spear]

Well more isnt needed

[muted hedge]

probably drunk too

[ashen perch]

I mean I guess that also works

its still Higurashi though

[brittle basin]

Will it be shown in the manga?

[tranquil blade]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-concerned-look-around-sad-confused-gif-13135059842887918234

[ashen perch]

???????????????

[digital spear]

Lmao

Ur alone buddy

[digital spear]

[ashen perch]

oh you mean like a reveal

as information

[vapid flower]

i honestly think we may get through all of op without knowing who a majority of characters parents are even major ones like nami and luffy

[brittle basin]

YES*

What did you THINK I meant Arsal???????

[muted hedge]

i feel like Tritoma is almost guaranteed to be Luffy's mother, purely from how much i think it will be her

[ashen perch]

Avery said that Kaido a ONS type of guy and I said its still Higurashi even then

so I was uh

[trim lily]

guaranteed is a very strong word

[dense haven]

oda already revealed famous parents foralmost all the shs

[brittle basin]

omg......

[dense haven]

hes gonna do it for all

[vital heart]

Hey guys! Interesting idea:

Could Ragnir have been on Joyboy’s crew?

Joyboy = Noah. Joyboy’s ship = The Arc(k).

Crewmates: an elephant, a squirrel, a robot, anything else?

[muted hedge]

yeah though i feel very safe on it at this point

[ashen perch]

anyways

[strong wadi]

Hoping this is true for Nami but even Franky got his dad named lmao

[digital spear]

Tritomom will be revealed after Elbaf

[brittle basin]

This means Yamato's mother's reveal is equivalent to Kid's backstory.

[hazy echo]

Does knowing the parents matter really much

[vital heart]

Lemme know down below if you think Joyboy is a Noah parallel

[strong wadi]

if there was any character that didnt need a parent reveal, it was franky

[muted hedge]

i think it adds a layer of depth, especially for Dragon in Luffy's mothers case

[brittle basin]

The bigger the story gets, the smaller the world becomes.

[misty plover]

didn't gloriosa say the previous empresses died out of heartbreak or something?

[trim lily]

we do not need nami's birth parents revealed

[muted hedge]

Luffy doesn't benefit from the reveal but Dragon would

[tropic nova]

tritomom or crocomom?

1️⃣ Tritomom

2️⃣ Crocomom

3️⃣ Im stupid

drfleeb · Jan 3, 2026, 11:10 PM

[ashen perch]

I just dont think so honestly, we'll know about every single parent name outside of Chopper's because those two were truly random

[muted hedge]

yeah Tritoma died through the love sickness

[trim lily]

chopper's parents were famous reindeer

[brittle basin]

Nerona it is

[vapid flower]

named reindeer parents soon

[ashen perch]

Nami already is confirmed to have a secret backstory, you wont be able to deny it soon

[misty plover]

choppers parents had acoc

[trim lily]

i can and will deny it

[vital heart]

Luffy’s mom is the burn scar order leader.

Luffy’s Mom was the Nerona Gorosei that betrayed Imu.

The 6th elder. The Murosei. (Six Elder Stars)

[hazy echo]

It can but it's really character specific (eg. Roger and Ace). I don't think it matters for like everyone in OP perse

[trim lily]

nami already has a mother

[brittle basin]

Chopper's dad is genuinely gonna be Rudolph and have connections to a mythical Santa zoan

[urban lodge]

They were Imu's pet reindeer

[muted hedge]

all we know from Nami's origin is that she was found in Oykot right?

[ashen perch]

NeroNa Mi is less than 6-7 chapters from being teased

[muted hedge]

yeah not everyone, just the major characters

[ashen perch]

yep

[brittle basin]

Oykot is not real

[ashen perch]

yeah she is the mother of nature, the Earth God Mu, true

[vapid flower]

unrelated but idas design is so dissapointing i was hoping for rainbow nami

[trim lily]

[strong wadi]

"Y'all thought this was same-face but Vivi and Nami are actually related" type of reveal

[tranquil blade]

Can we leave it in 2025 please

[ashen perch]

Nerona Mi?

[vital heart]

Oykot was ravaged during a previous hunting competition

Bellemere was experiencing the same thing Dragon went through

Bellemere isnt actually dead

Shes the secret head of the revolutionaries.

A part of their “espionage division”

Confirmed.

[tranquil blade]

The WHOLE message

the 67 you snuck in too

[trim lily]

meek cracked the code

[ashen perch]

this is the year where we could get a pretty big tease for it, we just cant

[muted hedge]

i hope that we get the full name and appearance of Shamrocks and Shanks mother

[vapid flower]

i hope this is the year meek sobers up

[ashen perch]

theres a 67% chance that we get a tease-okay sorry I get it Avery

[vapid flower]

fuck u

[tranquil blade]

38 btw

[ashen perch]

😭

still got 8 days till 26 smh

[tranquil blade]

Pushing 40 and talking about 67

[vital heart]

Holy shit

You’re 5 years older than me??

Only 5?

[ashen perch]

yeah

[vital heart]

I’m 20. Turning 21 in april

https://tenor.com/view/gasp-shock-scared-psyduck-pokemon-gif-25805348

[ashen perch]

unc

[vapid flower]

21 hehe

[vital heart]

9+10

[digital spear]

Imu

[vital heart]

Kinda looks like Imu

Idk if its just me

[tranquil blade]

21 was the start of number brainrot

[brittle basin]

21? one year closer to living on your own in the real world. ready meek?

[fallen meteor]

i think we should make 985 the next meme

[muted hedge]

please, no more number memes

[strong wadi]

this just reminds me that vine was supposed to become a thing again, i wonder what happened to that

[vapid flower]

1984

[tranquil blade]

https://tenor.com/view/jerma-handsome-men-jerma985-jerma-twitch-gif-14556994246222571381

[vital heart]

if I get into grad school next yr then I get to avoid the scary real world

[vapid flower]

we need vine at 2 seconds

[fallen meteor]

what a handsome man

[hazy echo]

wait we already know his dad

[vapid flower]

my attention span is not long enough for 10 videos a minute

[digital spear]

Aura

[tranquil blade]

People found out it was gonne be collecting data for some generative ai database

[vital heart]

FILLER

[muted hedge]

whose this?

[vital heart]

NOT REAL

FILLER

[ashen perch]

okay yeah I kind of did lie, Chopper's parents can be important too

[vital heart]

Thats not Rudolph

[fallen meteor]

the man marked by flames btw

[vital heart]

?

[digital spear]

Chopper

[brittle basin]

Those horns would shred

[muted hedge]

no, i mean the big guy

[hazy echo]

That's the pops

[rose rune]

burn scar

[muted hedge]

do they have a name

[vapid flower]

did choppers dad have coc

[strong wadi]

Damn, chopper's dad is burnscar man

[vapid flower]

he looks like it

[digital spear]

A really important reindeer that will be connected to the void century

[fallen meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/telepathy-telepathic-psychic-mind-reader-meld-gif-13614415

[ashen perch]

maybe Chopper's dad was like the king of the reindeers

[vital heart]

Hiruluk lost all sense of significance to the story 10 chapters ago

When I lost my bet.

I bet that him and Zeff were ex Rocks Pirates

They weren’t so I got muted for a month and a pfp change for 3 months.

Fuck Hiruluk and Fuck Zeff now.

[ashen perch]

so he could have CoC

[fallen meteor]

rein d. eer

[muted hedge]

hmmm, maybe Joyboy was santa clause

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/hyrax-tongue-cute-gif-8796240174806249238

[brittle basin]

Zeff was on his own crew though. Why didn't he tell Sanji?

[digital spear]

Hmm ... white beard and red clothes ... makes dreams come true ... laughs ... reincarnated on a rooftop ...

Everything fits

[muted hedge]

yeah

[ashen perch]

he did, Sanji even knows that he was on a famous pirate crew once

[vital heart]

Not true. He told Sanji that he was the cook on a legendary pirate crew. Not the captain

Reread Baratie

[ashen perch]

though he never mentioned a name

[vital heart]

ZEFF MADE ME LOSE A BET

[brittle basin]

.......am I going crazy? this doesn't sound right?

someone reread baratie for me

[muted hedge]

wasn't Zeff known as the red-leg or something

[ashen perch]

its true

[brittle basin]

yes

i want a panel. i'm going crazy

[fallen meteor]

i remember cook on a legendary crew too

[brittle basin]

arsal and meek are both gaslighting me

and marin

[muted hedge]

also i think the pirates were called cook pirates

[ashen perch]

1s

[hazy echo]

Chopper parents are deadbeats

[vital heart]

???

[muted hedge]

Zeff's pirate crew

[brittle basin]

funniest silhouette

[muted hedge]

very cute jolly roger

[rose rune]

back when he had a big chin

[ashen perch]

we'll find out that the Reindeers chased him out because they feared the Forest God btw

[tranquil blade]

The reindeers were just being racist to him

[muted hedge]

reincist

badum tsst

[hazy echo]

nuh uh

[ashen perch]

here Buffy

[digital spear]

KFC

[brittle basin]

wtf

no no

was there not a point where Zeff said he had his crew?

[ashen perch]

he had both

[muted hedge]

Oda will probably just make it Shiki at this point

[tranquil blade]

Idk who that famous pirate would be

[vital heart]

both

[vital heart]

Rocks

[tranquil blade]

It's not Rocks unfortunately

[ashen perch]

a crew of his own, and he cooked for a famous pirate

[brittle basin]

so i'm half right SCREW YOU MEEK good enough

[muted hedge]

Shiki fits right in if you ask me

[digital spear]

It wasnt Roger or Rocks so Oda forgot

[muted hedge]

he was one of the most famous ones

[tranquil blade]

W Shiki inclusion

[ashen perch]

he was Wang Zhi's cook

[hearty shore]

it's probably an unnamed pirate

the whole world didn't revolve around rocks and roger

even though it did

[ashen perch]

it doesnt have to be those two yea, theres plenty of famous pirates

[digital spear]

What if Zeff was Big Moms cook because Streusen was a fraud and he was also the father of Katakuri Daifuku and Oven

[hazy echo]

Oh yea speaking of

[vital heart]

@brittle basin @tranquil blade

Stephen's TL.

[hazy echo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF1U4J1mRoU

[ashen perch]

yeah, its the same

[hazy echo]

This was actually a cool scene

[brittle basin]

Zeff should have worked for an unnamed pirate. the more everyone is connected, the smaller things feel

[hazy echo]

Zeff and Garp eating together

[muted hedge]

i mean if it was a famous pirate then they probably were decently well known

[hazy echo]

Oh wait this one is better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mPzOQtBB4c

[ashen perch]

I think people just have to stop fighting the everyone is connected thing atp

[brittle basin]

i'm more curious how you found this that fast

[vital heart]

pins

[digital spear]

Its not the size that matters.

[brittle basin]

pins where? surely not here.

[indigo yacht]

I really fw this scene

[vital heart]

Raws say that "he [Zeff] was originally the cook of a "Well Known" Pirate Crew"

@brittle basin @ashen perch

[hearty shore]

zeff is such a goat for not ratting

[ashen perch]

well, we should have done it a while back. Oda loves the idea of an interconnected world, each thread leading to another, tying up with each other seamlessly

[vital heart]

Zeff cooked for The Rocks Pirates

It was not shown in the flashback because Zeff never met Loki

thats why we didnt see him

[brittle basin]

this was my favorite date scene in the live action

[vital heart]

IT MAKES SENSE!

[muted hedge]

i think it makes more sense if he were Shikis cook

[ashen perch]

it really does not have to be Xebec

[brittle basin]

"Well known"
I don't know them

[vital heart]

It does have to be

Who else could be worthy of the Red Leg?

[hearty shore]

dude it's ok, you lost a bet, you weren't right, it happens

[vital heart]

And no I dont mean that in a euphemistic way

[ashen perch]

its Wang Zhi, Sanji will learn about it in Hachinosu from Gin and Krieg

[vital heart]

Absolutely not. Zeff could not be persuaded by the lies of a cultist like Wang

[muted hedge]

being apart of Shiki's giant pirate crew, which was the biggest at the time and noting yourself as a notorious cook from that crew would be something that you'd become famed for

[hazy echo]

Oh I forgot Zeff mentioned Jaya https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0o71a9uoHqU

[vital heart]

Filler

[ashen perch]

he just cooked for him, he could have been hired

[hazy echo]

Sir this is a live action series

[hearty shore]

btw the script for LA, did oda oversee it or write it altogether?

[vital heart]

Current Viz's translator Stephen Paul's translations for the first 545 chapters https://web.archive.org/web/20100312095805/http://www.mangascreener.com/stephen/onepiece/onepiece.html

#also-manga message

[digital spear]

what if bro was just Whitebeards cook

[muted hedge]

i think we'd have seen him at this point, no?

[digital spear]

then he cooked Polo Gram because he thought he was a chicken

fed him to his son Marco so he got the phoenix fruit and dipped

[hearty shore]

WB has several divisions, i'd think he'd have a head chef for each of them

[frigid gulch]

Cookbeard

[digital spear]

and thats why his jolly roger is a chicken.

[frigid gulch]

[brittle basin]

oooooh i had no idea this existed. sadly, i'm gonna forget it exists 5 min from now

[digital spear]

good theory imo

[muted hedge]

i'll stick to the idea that it was Shiki, purely because we've seen so much of Whitebeard already

[vital heart]

I have plenty good theories

[muted hedge]

it feels like Zeff would've been mentioned

[vital heart]

Absolutely not

Shiki is good as dead

Also Prime Zeff is likely stronger than Shiki imo

Prime Zeff I scale up to current Sanji

[muted hedge]

it's more likely than it being Rocks

[vital heart]

Nah

[urban lodge]

Zeff was Squard's chef

[muted hedge]

was Squard well known?

[brittle basin]

So, Zeff stabbed WB in a way.

[urban lodge]

He fought Roger so uhh somewhat

[frigid gulch]

Upscale ?

[ashen perch]

a bit low

[hazy echo]

Roger killed his crew so somewhat I think?

That would've been on the newspaper

[ashen perch]

Prime Zeff was Mihawk level

[vital heart]

ok

how about

prime zeff ~ eos sanji

[thick mango]

eos sanji. easy. power inflation

[muted hedge]

i suppose Roger killing his crew would've made him renown, but would that really mark Squard as a famous pirate?

i feel like it's noted as something positive here

like someone who has accomplished great things

[vital heart]

I scale EOS Sanji to be the 4th strongest char in the world

[ashen perch]

this is fine, EOS Sanji a bit stronger but yea

[hazy echo]

Depends on how you define famous in this case.

[muted hedge]

i just mean that when it was noted when they talked about Zeff being from there, it was noted as something great or at least i interpreted it like it was something of an accomplishment to be from such a famous crew

[vital heart]

Famous pirates in the current gen include Bege, Cavendish, Kid, Law, and Ace. It's a rather low bar.

[pulsar path]

Man you guys are going to be mad when Loki is an elk zoan

[vital heart]

Like its actually a surprisingly low bar

[muted hedge]

i don't think it's a low bar

[brittle basin]

they ain't tearin up shit no more. goda.

[hazy echo]

Tbf Bege had a reputation before becaming a pirate

[muted hedge]

they were supernovas for a reason, they accomplished things

[vital heart]

this was 4 years ago

lol

[muted hedge]

yeah, they accomplished things

[vital heart]

bruh

[muted hedge]

that's why they got their reputation

[vital heart]

bruh

[shadow python]

When was the flashback? I had thought the rookies all started around the same time was this the year Ace died?

[vital heart]

this was 4 years ago

so 2 years before ace died

[hazy echo]

They all became pirates at various times but they all reached the Sabaody around the same time

[vital heart]

^

[shadow python]

Law and Kidd are frauds they aren't rookies at all

[hazy echo]

I think the closest was like Luffy and Bonney

[vital heart]

depends on your definition of rookie

[hazy echo]

Since Bonney started her piracy after Luffy defeated Arlong

[shadow python]

What were they even doing for 2 years?

[muted hedge]

pirate stuff

[spice cairn]

Doing pirate things...?

[hazy echo]

Doing pirate stuff

[spice cairn]

Do you think they press the pause button and do nothing for 2 years

[hazy echo]

We do know like some stuff

[shadow python]

Cabbage was a rookie the same year as Ace he's fine but the other 3 should have been the same year as Luffy

[hazy echo]

Like the Kid and Big Mom/Shanks things

[spice cairn]

Bege literally dominated the entire family mafia thing going on over the course of the story

[shadow python]

But no they had a 2 year possibly more head start and still only just made it to Sabody same time as Luffy

Which is why I'm less concerned about Bege

[muted hedge]

not every path is going to turn out the same you know

[hazy echo]

Tbf Luffy is literally build different

And also they all went through different paths

[spice cairn]

Yeah. The point is every supernova has gained massive growth in a short span despite what they did in particular

They all went through dramatic storylines themselves

[shadow python]

Luffy went from laboon to Sabody in less than a year

[hazy echo]

Yeah

We know that OP timeline is pretty short in terms of Luffy's journey

The entire 1st half was like a good 2-3 months

[thick mango]

this doesnt square with the alleged size of the world at all but whatever easy to forgive

[shadow python]

Slackers!

[hazy echo]

Zoro spent more time with Mihawk than with Luffy

[shadow python]

Law especially slawcker

[muted hedge]

i don't see your point

[hazy echo]

Law literally became a Warlord

[shadow python]

Not pre timeskip

Post timeskip he's fine I guess

Actually why did he start in north blue? Was Doffy based there?

[muted hedge]

i mean, Law was born in the north blue

[hazy echo]

Yea

Doffy didn't really had a base until Dressrosa I think

[shadow python]

Yeah that makes sense. But was Doffy? He definitely didn't travel to New world to meet him

[hazy echo]

Law tracked Doffy down

[vital heart]

it makes sense if you believe that the blues are like genuinely 100000x larger in area than the grand line

but that makes the yonko look pathetic

so

idk

millions of islands was def pushing it by oda lmfao

[spice cairn]

Well yeah the blues will always be larger than lines.

[vital heart]

but by how much

thats the quesito

question

[shadow python]

Why are Kidd law and bege worst generation and not Cabbage? Is it because they're slow?

[spice cairn]

I'd assume by quite a large margin

Considering these are like, entire oceans

[brittle basin]

i don't remember a cabbage

[vital heart]

cavendish wasnt on sabaody and didnt have a 100mil bounty

[vital heart]

those were the 2 requirements to be a supernova

[vital heart]

worst gen all had 100 mil bounty by sabaody

[spice cairn]

I'd argue some Grandline/NW islands just overlap within some of those blues

[vital heart]

cavendish mustve been below that threshold

[tranquil blade]

I think it's because Cavendish either didnt make it to Sabaody before they did or didnt have a bounty as large as them

[shadow python]

Cabbage is a supernova he just wasn't luffys gen because he did it 2 years prior

[brittle basin]

Meek, since becoming a translator, have you felt more pressure to keep up to date with One Piece lore?

[tranquil blade]

or whenever he did it idk

[vital heart]

The sabaody thing is a req to be a supernova

[hazy echo]

Cavendish started way prior iirc before the Supernovas

[vital heart]

Yeah i actually know chapters by their #

[spice cairn]

Meek needs to keep up or he'd be assassinated by the lore gods.

[brittle basin]

My translation king.

[tranquil blade]

Well then that explains it

[shadow python]

Cabbage apparently started around the same time as Law and Kidd

[spice cairn]

MeekGPT, give me a brief summary of Chapter 67

[tranquil blade]

Worst Gen all passed Sabaody the same year

[hazy echo]

Well

[tranquil blade]

or all made it there

[vital heart]

Worst Gen = Supernova + Blackbeard

[hazy echo]

Worst Gen is different

[brittle basin]

Go sit in the corner and think about what you asked.

[shadow python]

67 is around the end of baratie arc

[vital heart]

no

[hazy echo]

For some reason

[vital heart]

worst gen is 100 mill berry pirates --> Supernova + Blackbeard

[spice cairn]

Chapter 67 is genuinely a good chapter though

[shadow python]

69 is the start of arlong park arc

[spice cairn]

Its one of my favorite chapters of Bariate

[vital heart]

fuck

[trim lily]

i pity the people who dont know chap 67 is the soup chapter

[tranquil blade]

but the worst gen is a specific group of supernove, not all of them

[brittle basin]

it better be, or i'm gonna cry

[spice cairn]

everyone sleeps on the soup chapter

[vital heart]

probably luffy beating krieg

what is the soup chapter

[spice cairn]

Probably

[hazy echo]

Worst Gen is literally all of the Supernovas and then BB

[spice cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-over-over-it's-gif-3551756699416095564

[vital heart]

????

[tranquil blade]

I do not remember Cavendish ever being considered one of the worst gen

[vital heart]

this is not true when blackbeard is worst gen but not a supernova

[shadow python]

Cabbage isn't he's just a supernova

[spice cairn]

Oda is stupid

[vital heart]

cavendish is neither

cavendish is neither a supernova nor a worst gen

[hazy echo]

https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Worst_Generation

[spice cairn]

Couldn't he just call it just the Worst Gen of Supernovas and be done with it.

[hazy echo]

Yea honestly idk why they’re different in the first place

[shadow python]

Bb isn't a supernova the worst gen is the worst gen because they wanted to include him

[tranquil blade]

Yes there are the ones who were in the Sabaody arc, this is what I mean

We saw them in the arc

[shadow python]

Caribou and his bro are also supernovas

[fallen meteor]

the worst gen is basically oda going 'oh shit blackbeard too i forgot lool'

[shadow python]

I think Barto is too

[tranquil blade]

but only those guys (and Blackbeard for some reason) are part of the worst gen

[vital heart]

WORST GEN = LUFFY KID LAW BEGE BONNEY HAWKINS DRAKE UROUGE KILLER ZORO APOO BLACKBEARD

SUPERNOVA = LUFFY KID LAW BEGE BONNEY HAWKINS DRAKE UROUGE KILLER ZORO APOO no blackbeard

[spice cairn]

Here's a limitus Test

[shadow python]

But law and Kidd started with Cabbage they should be part of the same group

[vital heart]

no

bruh

[shadow python]

You two slackers aren't worst gen you're just lazy

[vital heart]

IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT YOU THINK SHOULD be the case.

It straight up is not the case

[tranquil blade]

Yeah but they didnt get to Sabaody at the same time

[vital heart]

Cavendish is neither

[spice cairn]

Cavendish just wasn't stronger than Bonney by this point in the story

End of story

[tranquil blade]

Kid and Law got there I guess a few years after Cavendish

[shadow python]

Slawpokes

And because they were late they're part of the worst generation. While Cabbage is part of the ace generation no one likes

[spice cairn]

What are you getting at specifically.

Im losing you

[shadow python]

Cabbages only crime is being too competent

[vital heart]

Stop calling him cabbage

Bruh

Say Cavendish

[spice cairn]

Are you trying to make the case that Cavendish should be a Supernova?

[hazy echo]

https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Super_Rookie

[shadow python]

Cavendish "is" a supernova. Just not from luffys gen

[mental lake]

Hakuba on the other hand

[hazy echo]

The wiki has Cavendish, Barto, Ace and Caribou as other super novas but not in the same group as the ones in Sabaody

[spice cairn]

Probably individuals who wouldve qualified or already did prior.

Ace was called one by Shanks in the anime

iirc

[shadow python]

But that distinction is weird because law and Kidd started with Cabbage not with Luffy

[vital heart]

STOP

sAYING

CABBAGE

[spice cairn]

Cavendish is only listed specifically because of the TCG

[vital heart]

I need a mod to mute me right now for 1 hr

[spice cairn]

Make of that as you will

[vital heart]

@frail kindle Mute me for 1 hr

[thick mango]

nah theres no way for the world to be huge but the circumference of the world to not also be huge. its just geometry. Even if it were 1 pixel wide, the length of the grand line is way way too long for how quickly luffy traverses it

[vital heart]

you assume the blue planet is spherical tho

could be an ellipsoid

and the grand line goes around the shortest circumference

sorry

[thick mango]

i dont think gravity works like that. Like yeah I guess its fantasy anything could be real but thats a pretty baseline thing

[vital heart]

im kidding

[shadow python]

Would you be upset at people calling Hancock Boa?

[thick mango]

its one of those things like pell's 5 flying devil fruits that doesnt hold up at all to scrutinity but its fine you just ignroe it and enjoy the ride

[spice cairn]

No?

Thats her name

Some people call her either or

[shadow python]

And Cabbage is cabbage

But while Cabbage can only refer to one person boa can refer to 3

[fallen meteor]

just him yeah

[thick mango]

yc1 by the way no diff usopp

[little arrow]

hello

[shadow python]

Cabaji fought Mohji to a draw

[fallen meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-hi-hy-hey-gif-8520159980767013609

[little arrow]

hru doing?

[hazy echo]

That’s just referring to people by last name

[olive sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/zhakk-harn-back-guess-who-gif-2928557023347135716

[spice cairn]

Hello San Juan

[olive sigil]

Hi Marx

[formal wagon]

hello mailbox

[spice cairn]

How have you been

Hopefully youre ok

Hello Mailbox

[formal wagon]

true

[olive sigil]

I’m fine, I was just frustrated a bit with the community and needed some time off

[spice cairn]

Ah I see, thats unfortunate

Glad you are back on regardless buddy

[olive sigil]

Got spoiled twice last week

[spice cairn]

From this server or an outside force?

[olive sigil]

Both

Once in this server and once outside

[spice cairn]

I blame Mr.Beast for this

[olive sigil]

Got spoiled the two big events of the chapter

[spice cairn]

Yeah that sounds annoying

[olive sigil]

Ragnir being a squirrel and Loki eating the fruit

[thick mango]

spoiler readers who cant keep it to themselves are a scourge

[olive sigil]

I did however reread the whole arc for the elbaf ranking

[spice cairn]

Being spoiled on Ragnir being a squirrel is very soul crushing

[proud pivot]

What if ragnir was a hot woman

[olive sigil]

I checked every chapter to see each time Ragnir appeared

[proud pivot]

Would it be more soul curishing

[spice cairn]

I would've not liked her.

In fact I would've wrote an lengthy SBS about the importance of Squirrels

[thick mango]

does anyone miss estrid

[shadow python]

How do we know squirrel isn't a hot woman?

[thick mango]

and harald's other wife whos name i forget

[spice cairn]

Ida?

[thick mango]

yeah that one

[spice cairn]

How can you forget about her

Insane

[thick mango]

i remembered estrid

[proud pivot]

mmmm

[spice cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/squirreljak-nutjak-soyjak-soyjack-jet-ski-gif-17128237607236691349

[olive sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/sandy-cheeks-phone-call-phone-spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-gif-11087328182652948238

[olive sigil]

You remembered the wrong one

[shadow python]

Estrid is the one who birthed Loki

[pulsar timber]

Gooner

[olive sigil]

Then threw him off a cliff

[thick mango]

she was a more distinct character

ida coulda been like 5 other normal loving moms who die

[shadow python]

We don't get many evil pretty women

[spice cairn]

Ida is fucking awesome

[spice cairn]

Devon brother

[olive sigil]

Ida was a beautifully written character, estrid just felt like a generic evil person

[spice cairn]

Sadie too

[olive sigil]

We got one in the last flashback as well

[spice cairn]

But I idt Sadie counts(?)

[thick mango]

being kind doesnt mean being well written

[shadow python]

Sadie is a champion of justice

[thick mango]

shes a very nice lady

[olive sigil]

She’s so sweet. I loved everything about her. I’m still mad at meek for killing her off

[olive sigil]

Harald didn’t deserve her

[olive sigil]

She’s too good for this world

[spice cairn]

Harald deserves to die for messing with Ida.

[shadow python]

Harald screwed Ida but it was definitely something she wanted too I don't think he really messed with her

[olive sigil]

I can finally put my hat back on

[olive sigil]

Let’s not phrase it like that

He didn’t screw her, he made love to her

[fallen meteor]

Almost didn't recognize you

[olive sigil]

MARIN

I spent the past 3 hours working on something for you

[vital heart]

Bruh

Viz comes out tomorrow

Imagine if the TCB translation was cooked

And I get yelled at

In 12 hours or so

[fallen meteor]

👀 what is it

[olive sigil]

You will get yelled at

I’m still mad at you for your translation
Meek

Btw meek I have a comment on the translation for this week

Why did you do this

[olive sigil]

The chapter rankings

I checked every chapter of the arc again to write down every time Ragnir appeared and add him to the ranking

[fallen meteor]

Oh shit

does it crack the top 10?

[little arrow]

helloooo chat hruu??

[olive sigil]

It barely cracks the top 50

[vital heart]

theres 4 common spellings of his name

idk

jinbe

jinbei

jimbe

jimbei

[olive sigil]

That’s not the issue

[vital heart]

ive seen them all use

used

?

whats the issue

[olive sigil]

If the request was about Jinbe

Who invited Sanji

[vital heart]

wdym??

[olive sigil]

It was a Jinbe cover request. I did not need the others there

[rich hornet]

Only correct one is Jimbae

[olive sigil]

Jamesbae

[sage temple]

What are character rankings after this chapter

[olive sigil]

Ragnir is ranked 43 with 448 points. The rest will come in half an hour

[sage temple]

ok

[olive sigil]

How are you btw Mosa

[sage temple]

Good hbu

[cyan lily]

hey does anyone know when the next chapter is coming out?

[formal wagon]

sometime between now and later

[spice cairn]

https://vxtwitter.com/i/status/2007511137366179879

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[cyan lily]

ah thanks

[sage temple]

/89+6

[olive sigil]

Good

[sage temple]

\87654321

[formal wagon]

yeah

[olive sigil]

So true

[fallen meteor]

1170 comes out officially tomorrow so next week we should start getting hints/spoilers and a ch nayve by Thursday

[olive sigil]

@fallen meteor @sage temple it’s time

[sage temple]

Mb

[cyan lily]

okay tysm

[fallen meteor]

Cleaning your keyboard?

[sage temple]

Yes

[fallen meteor]

Let's go

Whats the maximum amount of points a character can get? Like if its 20 pages of a solo character doing just amazing stuff @olive sigil

[olive sigil]

Elbaf rankings after 1170:
1-Loki 2148 (chapter MVP)
2-Harald 1852
3-Monkey D Luffy 1674
4-Davy D Xebec 1501
5-Scooper Gyattban 1368
6- Gunko 1266
7-Nico Robin 1242
8-Nami 1200
9-Road 1158
10-Shakuyaku 1156

[red lagoon]

What’s the numbers

[olive sigil]

There’s technically no maximum amount

[fallen meteor]

Fire as always

[olive sigil]

The most I can think of is 252 points for Usopp but it was back in syrup village

[olive sigil]

It’s a points system I have for the arc. Each character gets given a certain amount of points per chapter depending how much they contributed to the story

[red lagoon]

Bett

[ashen rose]

You forgot me :(

[olive sigil]

I didn’t know you liked my ranking

[random hinge]

PLAY AMONG US WITH US

[olive sigil]

No thanks

[random hinge]

:(

[vapid flower]

PLAY AMOGUS WITH ME

[distant vine]

I should buy Among Us

I only ever played it on mobile

[ashen rose]

It's a fun bit

[fast pagoda]

When my son doesn't like the Holy Knights

[olive sigil]

Good son

[fast pagoda]

"The Holy Knights and Big Mom are bums and Koby is my favorite character" 🫲

[olive sigil]

A little dumb but there’s a good heart in there

[spice cairn]

I would playamongus however

I am currently fiddling

[hot cairn]

Koby is cool

[ruby moat]

True and real yea

[wraith mantle]

chat is rocks weaker than big mom?

[ruby moat]

She could probably turn a rock into a homie

[timid falcon]

?

[ruby moat]

big mom the character in one piece has the soul soul fruit which allows her to put fractions of her soul into inanimate objects making them come alive with a personality

[timid falcon]

blackbeard solos rocks

and bigmom

ONscreen

[ruby moat]

Very cool thank you

Anyways,

The objects that she gives her soul to are called “homies” and obey her commands.

[fast pagoda]

Big Mom

Rocks

[ruby moat]

It would be possible for big mom to use her fruit power on a rock, making it a homie

[fast pagoda]

"One Piece"

Now I wonder to what extent can Linlin turn something into a homie

Like can she turn a whole mountain or city into a homie

[wraith mantle]

probably can but will take a lot of her soul

[ruby moat]

I’d imagine it would be a collection of smaller homies since a mountain or city is a collection of smaller objects

[unique lagoon]

SBS would be a more informative Q&A if we ask the questions

[ruby moat]

Or maybe not

[unique lagoon]

😔

[ruby moat]

Yea instead we get “does blank have a blank penis?”

[unique lagoon]

i would ask did buggys island even got affected by the rising waters

cuz it looks the same

[olive sigil]

You think every grain of sand, every rock, every pebble, every grass would be a homie?

[ruby moat]

yes.

no i dont

but like trees maybe

[olive sigil]

Just ask me

I’m an expert on the subject

[ruby moat]

idk if we've ever seen a homie that is like multiple pieces but the pieces are different

or multiple "things" i guess not pieces

[olive sigil]

Would every stratum be a homie

[ruby moat]

yea

microscopic homies

[olive sigil]

Stratums aren’t microscopic

[ruby moat]

idk what those are i assumed its something smaller than atom

ok i looked it up those are not smaller than atoms those r pretty big

[ruby moat]

beautiful

[olive sigil]

Every layer is a stratum

[ruby moat]

sweet thats a +1 knowledge for me

i learned something today

oh

no it would all be one

homie

[olive sigil]

Look at this one in Algeria

[fallen meteor]

i think it depends

[ruby moat]

god damn

[fallen meteor]

if big mom wants each stratum to be a homie it will be

[ruby moat]

thats incredible it doesnt even look natural

[fallen meteor]

but if she wants the whole thing them the whole thing will be

[ruby moat]

o yea true she picks

that makes sense

[olive sigil]

But it is

[ruby moat]

right

[trim lily]

what if it isn’t natural

new theory coming to you soon on the history channel

[icy wolf]

wow

cake or fake

[olive sigil]

Did you know that every rock is secretly cake

You should try one

[hazy echo]

https://x.com/robinreadsop/status/2007512103184384053

vic 📖 (@robinreadsop)

super random but i genuinely love usopp’s VA 😭😭 he’s spiritually a shoujo protagonist trapped in an old guys body

X · Jan 3, 2026, 5:59 PM

[spice cairn]

Me and Teech

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/view/kaido-dancing-gif-10532721055338163190

[mighty roost]

oh yeahh

[glacial bear]

Those remind me of the rainbow desert in Peru

🇵🇪🇵🇪🇵🇪

[glacial bear]

Worororororororo 💓

[olive sigil]

Can I see?

[olive sigil]

Wow that’s beautiful

[glacial bear]

[dense haven]

you should visit there

so many colorful rocks for you to look at

[mighty roost]

can i eat it

[glacial bear]

You could eat the Turrón de Doña Pepa we have in Peru 🇵🇪

It’s such a delicious dessert 😋

[mighty roost]

woa

🤤

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/linpoteto/status/2000225716051366381/photo/1

l i n 🍠 👒🌟 (@linpoteto)

☘️🍶❤️
#shamrock #shanks

X · Dec 14, 2025, 3:25 PM

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/essica-monthly-squirrel-4th-gif-7612614849559581983

[fallen meteor]

this artist is low key crazy https://fixupx.com/LYDart_Mclo/status/1572965019046019072/photo/1

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FixupX · Aug 12, 2025, 4:07 PM

[muted hedge]

it's great

[fast pagoda]

Mclo is great

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/qkix/status/1904115725071249411/photo/1

画狂 (@qkix)

I've wanted to draw a Game of Thrones parody since I saw Shamrock.😂

X · Mar 24, 2025, 10:19 AM

[vital heart]

@sage temple https://x.com/buck_yung11/status/2007545252215677049

Instinct (@buck_yung11)

This duo finna go crazy Imu is cooked

X · Jan 3, 2026, 8:11 PM

The tag team on Imu is gonna be wild

Imu is cooked

[ocean totem]

What if Loki's fruit is a beast only Nika was able to tame and became his friend

[muted hedge]

could be

similair to the friend of Fenrir i suppose

[alpine trench]

tyr becoming the friend of fenrir and luffy as an extension of shanks' will befriending and taming loki as nika

[vital heart]

????

So you think Shanks has a mythical zoan too?

What??

[alpine trench]

shanks is like tyr, the god of war in norse mythology who doesnt have an arm

[tranquil blade]

Shanks parallels Tyr not literally having a Tyr fruit

[alpine trench]

and in this analogy, shanks losing his arm is for the next generation/luffy and as such, luffy is the extension of that will through the strawhat and he will befriend loki who most likely has the fenrir fruit

in norse mythology, fenrir who's the son of loki befriends only one of the aesir, that is tyr

[muted hedge]

wasn't Tyr friends with almost everyone

or at least more so than others

[alpine trench]

tyr in the eddas lost his arm when fenrir bites it off

tyr is one of the more sensible aesir yes

[olive sigil]

I love tyr

[alpine trench]

but in this specific case he is the only one who has a friendship with fenrir, who increasingly hates the gods for binding him

[olive sigil]

One of my favourite bands

[alpine trench]

the binding of fenrir is one of my favorite norse stories

[muted hedge]

yeah i know, i just wondered considering that it strengthens the connection between Tyr and Shanks ever further, Shanks is a sensible pirate after all

[alpine trench]

and it contributes to ragnarok where fenrir breaks free from his bonds, rises to a gigantic size and then fights and kills odin

[alpine trench]

yes

[muted hedge]

who would Odin be in this instance?

[alpine trench]

hajrudin

[muted hedge]

damn

[alpine trench]

but i see this as an inversion

[olive sigil]

We need him back on Elbaf

[muted hedge]

yeah it has to be, given Hajrudins lofty dream needs to be accomplished too

[alpine trench]

because oda will twist this into loki and hajrudin working together due to luffy

[muted hedge]

basically becoming the new Dory and Broggy

[alpine trench]

imo they'll become the co-rulers of elbaf

[tranquil blade]

Does Harald parallel anyone in norse mythology?

[alpine trench]

extending harald's will

[fallen meteor]

is there a thor on this one

[alpine trench]

i dont think so, this is a very specific instance of an interpretation of that fenrir story

and no, harald doesnt seemingly parallel anyone in norse myths but i also have to go revisit it

harald is an oda special

[prisma yacht]

I have read somewhere about there being a historical figure named harald in Vikings history

[alpine trench]

with this conclusion to his arc, up there with one of the great OP flashback character

harald hardrada

yes

[prisma yacht]

and that he was an important figure to change how things went for them

[prisma yacht]

yeah

[muted hedge]

it will be so wholesome seeing Loki and Hajrudin working together

[alpine trench]

there's also harald godwinson

[muted hedge]

hopefully they do when they save Jarul

[prisma yacht]

Oh I didn't know

the anglo saxon right

[cosmic hamlet]

Flashback didn't end yet btw

[prisma yacht]

that's what you're praying for

[cosmic hamlet]

If oda has brain he will continue the flashback

[muted hedge]

i want to return to present

it feels like the latest chapter was a great climax to the flashback

[prisma yacht]

just a lil bit of aftermath and then back to present

[cosmic hamlet]

Its not, we are yet to find out some details related to loki journey

[prisma yacht]

I want this

[muted hedge]

at most we will see Loki leave Elbaph

i don't think we're getting his journey here, given that's not what Loki told that he'd tell

[cosmic hamlet]

He escaped*

Maybe gaban helped him escape

[cosmic hamlet]

Luffy also present so he will tell why shanks beat him to keep his promise for releasing him

[muted hedge]

i don't think so, given they're short on time as is

[cosmic hamlet]

Time goes slowly in current timeline when flashback is going on

Maybe the secret that loki want to tell is just that shanks used to have a contract with wg in the past

To luffy

[muted hedge]

i mean, at most he could tell him that Shamrock a Celestial Dragon is the twin brother of Shanks, which indicates a relation though i don't think that he knows much more than that

[olive sigil]

I could take the chapter from the beginning and resume it to you in less than 5 minutes. We’re just getting the extended cut

[sage temple]

Haven't seen this one it looks sick

[sage temple]

Yh can't wait

https://tenor.com/view/ai-dog-ai-dog-dance-i-left-my-home-gif-18071451606234132793

[prisma yacht]

[vital heart]

You think Shanks has the Mythical Zoan: Tyr?

[alpine trench]

no you fucking idiot

read what i said

[muted hedge]

lol

[vital heart]

So shouldnt Loki = Fenrir -> Be friends with Shanks and not Luffy ?

Bro your analogy is failing lmfao

[alpine trench]

READ

YOU DUMBASS READ THE FUCKING MESSAGE

i cant with you

like come on meek

[vital heart]

tyr becoming the friend of fenrir and luffy as an extension of shanks' will befriending and taming loki as nika

Tyr (Shanks) becoming the friend of Fenrir (Loki). Luffy is an extension of Shanks (Tyr)'s will and will befriend and tame Loki (Fenrir) as Nika

?

oh

Luffy is basically a mini Tyr is what youre saying

[alpine trench]

absolute moron

[vital heart]

Was i right

[cosmic hamlet]

Why are you always angry and irritated

[alpine trench]

i'm angry and irritated mostly at meek

i'm not angry

[sage temple]

harsh dont worry I understand you

[alpine trench]

but yes i am irritated

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/beauty-and-the-beast-look-at-me-sad-gif-7816945

It's fine

[cosmic hamlet]

You think he don't know shanks has the seal?

[alpine trench]

its frustrating when meek does this shit

thanks socrates

[vital heart]

: (

[sage temple]

Lol Meek tried to get you warned in spoilers a few days ago

[alpine trench]

did he

[prisma yacht]

Lmao

[vital heart]

bro it wa ajoke

but yes

[wraith mantle]

wtf

meek a rat

[muted hedge]

i don't think that Loki knows extensively that Shanks had a covenant, no

[sage temple]

Because you were talking about the WSJ thing before the chapter

And he pinged like 2 mods about it

[alpine trench]

didnt you also do that

[sage temple]

Yeah but only to Meek

[alpine trench]

i see

[sage temple]

Because he gets away with stuff

[alpine trench]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-gif-1878760417600646737

[sage temple]

I have to set an equilibrium

[cosmic hamlet]

Hmm, my speculation is that he found out that shanks has the seal post incident

[sage temple]

Perfectly balanced, as all things should be

[sage temple]

Shanks meeting Loki down in the Underworld recently is getting more likely ngl

[cosmic hamlet]

[wraith mantle]

would explain why loki said he knows where shanks is

assuming he was telling the truth

[sage temple]

It's almost confirmed atp

[muted hedge]

we already know that Shanks has met Loki in the underworld, given that Shanks conquerors haki knocked out the cultists before

[sage temple]

Yeah

[alpine trench]

shanks was at elbaf around the same time the SHs were at egghead too

so just a few days ago

[sage temple]

Also

I thought Luffy could see through things with that special observation Haki

Loki is an anomaly

[cosmic hamlet]

Egghead is only 1 day in one piece timeline right?

How long it took them to come to elbaf from egghead?

[alpine trench]

it took a couple days

[prisma yacht]

They passed out

so I'm not sure we know exactly

[prisma yacht]

yeah

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/quagsire-blink-blinking-gif-25635243

[cosmic hamlet]

Hmm

[muted hedge]

this confirms that Shanks has been down there and visited him

[cosmic hamlet]

I wonder if the fight will indeed break between nations to secure highground

[muted hedge]

definitely

everyone will live on the instinct solely to secure themselves and their own survival

it'll become a survival of the fittest situation

[keen quiver]

If he directly refused to fight loki

More agenda for me

2 people he refuses to box unless his whole crew is there

Teach and loki

[cosmic hamlet]

Do we know which island has the the highest ground

[muted hedge]

i mean... Marijoa i guess

[cosmic hamlet]

Wait

[muted hedge]

Wano is also up there

[cosmic hamlet]

The flames in mariejois, do you think some nations are fighting mariejois to secure highest ground and not dragon

[tranquil blade]

Meek...

[muted hedge]

could be

[keen quiver]

Meek is doing the usual

[tranquil blade]

Meek I explained it to you in my reply

[cosmic hamlet]

[muted hedge]

though i don't know how civillians would get up there in the first place

given they'd probably be shuffled out immediately

or... killed

[cosmic hamlet]

If the king of the nation decide to revold he could bring the entire nations soldiers and knights

Maybe it involves multiple nations

[muted hedge]

yeah but i don't think that's likely

[cosmic hamlet]

Yeah unlikely but slight possibility

Because I don't think dragon will directly attack mariejois yet

[muted hedge]

i mean, he could

they made preparations for it at least, if i remember correctly

[cosmic hamlet]

A sneak attack? Yes. I doubt its a full scale war

[prisma yacht]

They already did a sneak attack

[cosmic hamlet]

They didn't? They were trying to rescue kuma

[muted hedge]

yeah, when they took away their food supply

[cosmic hamlet]

Its a rescue operation

[prisma yacht]

well they did a lot in it

[cosmic hamlet]

Yeah thats indirect. I meant a direct sneak attack

[clever saffron]

They cut the rations for the marijoe , maybe dragon might attack

[prisma yacht]

I don't see an attack happening if there's no time dilation

[cosmic hamlet]

They cut the food, now maybe they put a flame in the remaining food supply aswell

[muted hedge]

how is it indirect?

[cosmic hamlet]

I meant like its not physical attack

Putting flames in mariejois is a direct attack

[prisma yacht]

[muted hedge]

i'm not sure what the difference is, it's still an attack on their property which neglects the Celestial Dragons their peace of living

[cosmic hamlet]

I'm not saying they didn't do anything

I'm saying this time they might do a physical sneak attack

That is if the "sea of fire" is a literal word and not a metaphor

[muted hedge]

i mean, maybe

though Sommers made it sound less critical

he just said that it had all gone downwards ever since they cut their food supply

[cosmic hamlet]

[sage temple]

Rocks was really him just his inspiriation causes Yonko level monsters

[cosmic hamlet]

But if its not urgent why is imu impatient and saying why are you taking so long?

[keen quiver]

He just consistently avoids fights with people who can actually fight him

😭

[sage temple]

Tbf he didnt avoid Katakuri as much

He did run a bit tho

[muted hedge]

could have become worse since they left

[keen quiver]

Also kaido dint seem hung up about their fight

So it must have not been notable

😭

[cosmic hamlet]

If its simply a food shortage problem why do they need shamrock back

Are they looking to attack dragon base

Maybe they will send holyknights to near by nations and demand food supplies

[prisma yacht]

it's probably that shamrock's presence wld calm down the cds

[storm anvil]

They probably just clashed few times and called it a day cus kaido knew he can't go to marineford no more

[cosmic hamlet]

We have garling for that

[prisma yacht]

they might see him as someone very much respectable

[thick mango]

How folks feeling about zoro sanji vs dorry broggy and luffy vs loki

[storm anvil]

😂✌️

[cosmic hamlet]

Shanks might have convinced kaido that joyboy will come to wano soon

[storm anvil]

I can see that but then who's gonna take care of the hks

[cosmic hamlet]

What, garling loves typical cds. He probably have good relation with them

[strong wadi]

loki takes care of the hks first

[storm anvil]

this is a interesting possibility

[muted hedge]

might be, considering that Sommers said that his presence there would be a great benefit

[cosmic hamlet]

All of them?

[prisma yacht]

yeahh

[cosmic hamlet]

[prisma yacht]

Also I don't think loki will be the one handling the hks

[storm anvil]

Honestly i can see him solo them too

[trim lily]

if loki beats all the knights then oda truly does hate them

[storm anvil]

But he's injured rn so idk

[prisma yacht]

😭

[trim lily]

first ever villain team to be continually humiliated since their introduction

[cosmic hamlet]

Holy glaze 😭

[cosmic hamlet]

Atleast you remember this

[storm anvil]

I think we have already seen enough to make the conclusion he hates them

[clever saffron]

Straw hats will handle hks.

[muted hedge]

i think the Gunkmu will whipe the floor with Loki and Luffy, until they do a powerful enough attack to break the control that Imu has which lets Gunko return to her normal self, where she probably ends up dying

[strong wadi]

Yeah, loki can beat both sommers and qilingham, but usopp will obviously play a role vs qilingham ofc. Imunko will be some Brook emotional connection and Luffy/Loki

[storm anvil]

They are rev commanders victims in the final war

[trim lily]

do the other strawhats get to do like, anything or what

[cosmic hamlet]

I forgot there are only 2 hk now, since imu took control of gunko

[keen quiver]

He just gave up and said "that's it I guess...time to sit in wano."

[strong wadi]

Usopp gets qilingham, or they just hold off the knights themselves while loki doesnt do anything with the knights

[storm anvil]

This is cooking for now

[strong wadi]

7 strawhats vs 2 holy knights is reasonable

[trim lily]

yeah i’d like that

[keen quiver]

The god knights are designed to be punching bags and losers

[muted hedge]

i think that the rest of the straw hats will take care of the giants who are demonified

[strong wadi]

they cant win, but they can stall them

[keen quiver]

They aren't gonna get much done

[muted hedge]

Zoro goes against Killingham, Sanji against Sommers

[cosmic hamlet]

Does these 7 have CoC?

[trim lily]

i was thinking dorry and broggy would be saved for a hajrudin and loki 2v2

[trim lily]

as we saw with robin you can still impede them without it

you just can’t do permanent damage

[clever saffron]

Nooo

[strong wadi]

Hajrudin's strength is so below Loki, that this doesnt make sense to me

[cosmic hamlet]

[trim lily]

uhh he got a buff off screen

[cosmic hamlet]

Honestly i can see them stalling since gunko is out of picture

[strong wadi]

he got hurt from the fall, major L on his part

[storm anvil]

[trim lily]

considering how much more powerful koby is now i don’t think it’s too absurd to think hajrudin also got stronger

[muted hedge]

of course he would've gotten stronger

[trim lily]

it’d be pretty disappointing if he got left behind in all this

[muted hedge]

it's silly to think that he hasn't

[cosmic hamlet]

Who will fight the killingham dream creatures + domi reversi demons

[prisma yacht]

We are seeing a brother dynamic

[trim lily]

uhh zoro and usopp

plus a few others

[cosmic hamlet]

What will sanji do?

[trim lily]

you can have a group + 1 coc user per knight

[trim lily]

if he unlocks coc then he can fight sommers with his group

[prisma yacht]

He has sommers

[cosmic hamlet]

Wait didn't we say 7 strawhats will fight hks? Who are the 7?

[trim lily]

whoever’s left

[cosmic hamlet]

Excluding luffy, zoro and sanji?

[strong wadi]

This is not looking very promising for hajrudin, im afraid

[cosmic hamlet]

I want him to unlock something related to germa genes to counter regen

[trim lily]

i do fear oda leaving him behind

[clever saffron]

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