also-manga

[dapper tree]

Naw, never

[high wolf]

I agree

[digital spear]

https://tenor.com/view/bart-shoe-bart-wolf-wolf-call-hubba-hubba-bart-simpson-gif-26890075

[red lagoon]

luffy will never surpass me and kaido#

[digital spear]

So glue

[proud pivot]

Lmfao

[prisma yacht]

Luffy surpasses kaido in this fucking arc

[prisma yacht]

Haters can cope

[urban lodge]

Why post AI slop when the fem Croc Oda drew is much prettier

[prisma yacht]

HATERS CAN COPEE

[dapper tree]

he wishes

[craggy vapor]

Kaido vs Luffy wasn’t a fair fight. Using this fight as basis for powerscaling arguments is dumb.

[prisma yacht]

LUFFY IS SURPASSING KAIDOS ASS THIS FUCKING ARC

[dapper tree]

bro chill the heck out

[mighty roost]

my goat ragnir solos everyone

[prisma yacht]

I'm chill

pasta

[red lagoon]

when g5 lasts more than 5 mins come back and talk to me about kaido vs luffy

[high wolf]

I am investing all my stocks on the ragnir agenda 😹

[prisma yacht]

[dapper tree]

ragnir hype is cringe

[ashen perch]

Luffy is not even lasting 15 minutes against a fresh Kaido btw

[desert nest]

Pasta

[prisma yacht]

it's all for usopp

[ornate tartan]

Ragnir isn’t as strong as people say

[desert nest]

No u cringe

[proud pivot]

How sad is it when the Dragonball fan makes more sense than all the one piece fans smh

[mighty roost]

finally someone that understands

[digital spear]

Imu > Dragon > Shanks > Blackbeard > Aluerax > Loki > Luffy > Crocodile > Doflamingo > Big Mom > Kaido > Mihawk

[prisma yacht]

Everything will work out

[prisma yacht]

[dapper tree]

I am hurting, stop this

[distant vine]

As long as Luffy is allowed infinite rounds, he has infinite chances

[red lagoon]

yooo im pretty up there

[prisma yacht]

Valid

[ashen perch]

I am stronger and faster

[high wolf]

It was a way closer fight than you think.

[ornate tartan]

where’s akainu

[digital spear]

Can you freeze your opponents?

[dapper tree]

but can you freeze your opponents

[prisma yacht]

I smell Homelander

[digital spear]

LOL

[ashen perch]

yeah I can

[prisma yacht]

sniff sniff

[proud pivot]

Closer fight my aZZ. Luffy didn't hold up any islands. He didn't get tag teamed by multiple people

He didn't fight non stop without any breaks

That's Kaido the goat

[high wolf]

Luffy was way more injured than kaido while kaido was more fatigued than Luffy, but not by much ngl.

[red lagoon]

icl when kaido hit g5 luffy with ts i knew kaido was that nigga fr

then kaido pulled out a magma dragon form

[dapper tree]

LMAO

[red lagoon]

kaido was toying with these niggas

[proud pivot]

Kaido is him. He's stronger than Luffy, he's stronger than Loki. People and their recency bias tho.. smh

[red lagoon]

now imagine kaido pulled out flame torch dragon form fr

[prisma yacht]

😆😆

[digital spear]

Do you think Kaido actually destroyed death and is alive

[ornate tartan]

that mf dead bro

😂

[red lagoon]

yes

[high wolf]

I don't think any sane person is saying Luffy > Kaido rn

[prisma yacht]

Can't lie ts was funny af

[red lagoon]

what if the final war arc kid and big mom return riding kaido whilst holding pedro

[desert nest]

Big mom alive tho trust

[craggy vapor]

Remember that Kaido one shotted a max power gear 4 Luffy in his weakest form.

[digital spear]

They WHAT

[ashen perch]

Loki loses to this btw

[proud pivot]

Right on.

[dapper tree]

true

[red lagoon]

err

[high wolf]

Elaborate on the "weakest form" part.

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-22093205

[ashen perch]

when he was at like 20% hp

[digital spear]

Once Ragnir notices Kaidos nuts its over

[ashen perch]

or less

[dapper tree]

none of kaido's forms are weak

[craggy vapor]

his base

[dapper tree]

the forms don't even really matter that much

[ornate tartan]

Kaido and BM are never coming back

[ashen perch]

oh that

[warm fossil]

what if instead of arguing we just agree every character is tied in strength

[prisma yacht]

😭😭😭

[dapper tree]

they all are mentally nerfed

[red lagoon]

this form of kaido isnt talked about enough for how strong it is

[prisma yacht]

Ok I can do that

[digital spear]

I miss Sbs equal phase

Where he just screamed EVERYONE IS EQUAL

EQUAL PIECE

[iron oriole]

how can they all be tied when Tama negs everyone?

[ornate tartan]

Kidd has a way higher chance of returning then either Kaido or Big Mom

argue w a a wall

[red lagoon]

shit was melting the rocks

[high wolf]

Oh you mean the act 1 fight?

Luffy was a fodder during that fight 💔

Literally a rooftop zoro victim 💔

[dapper tree]

glad I missed that

[proud pivot]

Luffy a bum fr

Low diffed by nami

[red lagoon]

kaido just stole akainu whole flow

[ashen perch]

did it better really

[high wolf]

Nami > Imu tho

[proud pivot]

Lol

[wraith mantle]

who was your fav character in one piece in 2025?

[prisma yacht]

Canon btw

[high wolf]

This form got overpowered by Bajrang Gun

[dapper tree]

This is maybe command worthy, would have been for sure during the mental nerf peak

[proud pivot]

Luffy ngl. Weak as he is, I still like him

[prisma yacht]

HARALDDDDDDDDDDDD

[wraith mantle]

nigga luffy had like two panels in 2025 😭

[high wolf]

Luffy

[red lagoon]

sanji

[digital spear]

(Oda fell off)

[craggy vapor]

ye and after that he did some sit-ups, died twice and suddenly he is stronger than Kaido?

[proud pivot]

Ok fine, rocks

[red lagoon]

even if sanji was in like 2 panels

[proud pivot]

I liked rocks

Cool guy. He teaches us to love our family

[red lagoon]

i never switch up on my favorite

[high wolf]

Yeah I mean, the udon part doesn't really make sense to me ngl

[red lagoon]

even if sanji doesnt appear in a panel for a whole year

he is my favourite character of that year

[digital spear]

I got ahold of the image too late, sorry

[high wolf]

Wanji unlocking ACoC trust

[proud pivot]

As a sanji fan, I wonder. If someone killed nami, would sanji punch that person?

[ornate tartan]

Akainu is ruthless

[red lagoon]

man sanji would bring the moon down on that person head

speaking of moon

https://tenor.com/view/hi-gif-12889311984206943800

[digital spear]

Why wouldnt he just kick him

[golden valley]

This just means Oda is painting Kaido as a good guy 🥲

[ornate tartan]

promise u someone would rather fight Kaido then Akainu

[red lagoon]

moon piece 2026?

[ornate tartan]

that guy melting your limbs off

[digital spear]

Moon arc soon

[proud pivot]

Nah they needa show he doesn't give a fk anymore. I wanna see sanji crashout at least once

[digital spear]

On everybodys soul we will enter moon arc in 2027

[prisma yacht]

😂😂

[high wolf]

Wakazuki is HIM

[prisma yacht]

Can't even say I don't agree

[proud pivot]

With kaido u have a chance ngl. Just give him some good alcohol

[pine scaffold]

I still hate the equal thing, its much more fun to have characters be stronger than the other

but Oda had to be a little bitch about it and make it so they are all equal in harmony 😇

[slow obsidian]

"in the name of the moon i will punish you"

[digital spear]

@dapper tree look pasta its not too late

[pine scaffold]

Like I just think its so boring

[ashen perch]

Nobody is actually equal

[dapper tree]

[proud pivot]

Agreed. Oda was pandering. He knows deep down zoro is stronger

[pine scaffold]

Roger and WB and Garp

[golden valley]

Enel is turning the moon into a ship.

[pine scaffold]

they are all equals

[ashen perch]

Roger>WB
Roger>Garp

Its very simple

[urban lodge]

Garp is stronger actually

[dapper tree]

what manga are you even reading

[golden valley]

WB > Roger

[pine scaffold]

here we go

but then people send panels of them BEING EQUALS

[prisma yacht]

Garp is the best

[high wolf]

No

[golden valley]

Yes

[prisma yacht]

Warp

[digital spear]

Garp > WB > Gord Logel

[dapper tree]

never happened

[prisma yacht]

Maji new pfp

[high wolf]

W

[urban lodge]

If Whitebeard is Roger's only equal then Garp is stronger than both

[ornate tartan]

both Roger and Garp are superior to Whitebeard

[urban lodge]

God Valley is proof

[ashen perch]

Its considered a feat of WB to be able to match up to the Pirate King, not the other way around

[dapper tree]

garp wishes

[digital spear]

Backed up by the manga lowk

[dapper tree]

They both wish

[prisma yacht]

So peak

[golden valley]

Its just cause Roger is the most legendary pirate

[ashen perch]

He's the measuring stick so to speak, Roger is the strongest

[digital spear]

Garp made Whitebeard run btw

[golden valley]

Whitebeard is the true strongest

Strongest man

[proud pivot]

If the man can't even handle dadan... I mean...

[prisma yacht]

I won't count on that

[ornate tartan]

strongest man and defeated who😂

[digital spear]

Dadan is the strongest

[ornate tartan]

that’s a title given by newspapers

[red lagoon]

bruh

[prisma yacht]

You can't be fr

[red lagoon]

i acc hate u feats ass niggas

[digital spear]

Dadan vs Akainu will be legendary

[golden valley]

roger aint defeat a single nga 1v1 😭

[ashen perch]

Nothing aside from the flawed databooks and the non canon novels have ever mentioned when WB became the strongest

[high wolf]

Kaido literally talks about Roger when talking about who was the strongest. Did we not read the Luffy vs Kaido fight 💔

[golden valley]

Pirate King almost lost to Shiki

[ornate tartan]

you telling me someone is stronger then someone yet that person cannot defeat the person u saying he is stronger than

[urban lodge]

How far we've come, people used to say Garp was commander level

[desert nest]

Dadan low Diffs

[ornate tartan]

either say they equal or stop saying nonsense😂

[ashen perch]

Zoro and Sanji are also "equals"

But there's always gonna be one between them who is stronger

[golden valley]

Vivre Cards > Your cope

[desert nest]

Who snuck Sengoku in here

[proud pivot]

Totally immobilised. Even green bull wasn't this helpless. Garp is nothing

[digital spear]

Who is Oden the rival of

[golden valley]

This honestly might be the strongest case

[digital spear]

"At least bring Garp and Sengoku"

[pine scaffold]

WB I think

[ornate tartan]

and what pirate has ever beaten him😂 he never lost

[high wolf]

That's Sanji....... right??

[prisma yacht]

Ok ragebait fs

[golden valley]

But Kaido was highkey tweaking

Because Roger did not do that shit

[dapper tree]

did you know that "rival" does not mean "equal"

[ashen perch]

Vivre Cards are created by a team of writers that make up their own analysis and write it down, thats the text boxes that you guys obsess over

[digital spear]

This is missing Harald who is Xebecs equal and Loki who is Haralds equal

[golden valley]

Approved by Oda

[ashen perch]

They're as infallible as the interpretation of a regular reader

[golden valley]

Nope

[ashen perch]

Oda likes money

[digital spear]

Samw

[golden valley]

This is yap

[ashen perch]

All official material is approved by Oda

[prisma yacht]

Funny how usopp is better

[ornate tartan]

the measuring stick of the main character is Gol D Roger

he is the one who has to be surpassed

[golden valley]

Considering Oda uses Vivre Cards as a metric for information

[high wolf]

They're canon and approved by oda, so we can use them.

[golden valley]

This isn’t the same thing

[ashen perch]

There is nothing Oda ever tells you to ignore

Because he wants you to buy them

[golden valley]

Not true either

He says strong world isn’t a necessity to watch

[ashen perch]

This was the same with those early databooks, its the same with the magazines, its the same with databooks

[ashen perch]

16 years later

[golden valley]

And he says that databooks aren’t a necessity either

He says that theyre for people who wanna learn more

So he in fact doesn’t tell readers to read it

[digital spear]

What is this about

[ashen perch]

He did, he said if you're interested in learning more about characters, go buy them

[ashen perch]

The flavor text in databooks, which is written by a team of writers, that Oda doesn't even review lol

[golden valley]

This is honestly bad faith. Oda uses vivre cards himself, approves vivre cards, involved in vivre cards, etc

[ashen perch]

And they've been wrong many times

[golden valley]

And theyve been corrected

For a reason

[ashen perch]

He is not approving Vivre Cards by actually proofreading them or something

[balmy maple]

still arguing about vivre cards in the big 26

[ashen perch]

Its a blanket blind approval

[ashen perch]

Not until the manga has contradicted them

[golden valley]

If I show a direct interview of this being said otherwise, you will just say in bad faith that they’re saying that to pull readers in

[golden valley]

Yes and no

[ashen perch]

I can too

https://fixupx.com/i/status/1429572112826585089

Greg (@ochimusha108)

@mkeallison @sabaody_news Dunno if it was ever on a Vivre Card but it always helps to remember, Vivre Cards are made by many people, they've been imperfect before, and they'll probably be imperfect again. Just important to keep in mind. Hell, even my name's on em but I'll admit they're imperfect.

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FixupX · Aug 22, 2021, 10:32 PM

Hear it from a guy involved in it

I think we had a command lemme check

[golden valley]

Vs Naito, the guy who’s closer to Vivre Cards than Greg is?

[ashen perch]

Greg directly contradicts Naito at another point, mentions that Oda doesn't actually have the time to review them

[golden valley]

And not only that, we have examples of Oda directly correcting Vivre Cards

[ashen perch]

Its guys like Naito(editors) who is actually reviewing them

[golden valley]

And him in SBS telling the readers to use them

The evidence is more stacked in one side than it is the other

[craggy vapor]

Could it be that One Piece is fictional and that it doesn’t exist?

[ashen perch]

Also they're the same level of close lol, Greg literally is a writer for the Vivre Cards team

His name is on the credits

[golden valley]

Has Greg said anywhere tha he’s directly worked with Oda and talked to him about the whole purpose of the Vivre Cards?

[ashen perch]

He has said he worked with Oda yea, not necessarily about Vivre Cards though

I can't find this one arlongpark post gimme a bit, Greg contradicts Naito by pointing out that Oda doesn't have the time to actually go through them

[balmy maple]

what is even the discussion here

[golden valley]

Thats not true tho

Oda has reviewed and corrected Vivre Cards

And he reads them lol

[golden valley]

It actually started from wb vs roger

[ashen perch]

This isn't proof of him reading them lol, this is because he gave them the data

[golden valley]

Dawg

[ashen perch]

yeah I dont know what to tell you, I havent trusted them since they kept up that part about Shanks already being an emperor when he met Luffy for months lol, only correcting when Oda contradicted it in the manga

Oda isnt gonna make a mistake that big if he is actually involved

[left sage]

solo lien quan khong

[ashen perch]

english only please

[golden valley]

Theres plenty of more examples, but this scrutiny is a bit ridiculous. If it’s information he gives, it still directly shows involvement and author intent, paired with just about everything we know when Oda mentions Vivre Cards. Information regarding WB’s title of when he got it isn’t actual direct manga information, it’s purely Vivre Card context which Oda uses and most cases are involved in. It has a chance of being more correct than it actually is incorrect

[little arrow]

hello

[ashen perch]

They completely made that up, nobody noticed it, till Oda revealed that he actually has only been emperor for 6 years rather than 13 years. I mention it cause its the biggest mistake they have made even now, and its proof of them literally making shit up

[golden valley]

I do not recall this, but assuming it’s true, outliers exist regardless. In terms of consistency, Vivre Cards are more right than they are wrong and when they are wrong, it is intentionally corrected

Do you know what vivre card that is said btw

[ashen perch]

it was a pretty big deal back when chapter 957 came out, not sure if you were reading weekly

[rose rune]

Are we talking vivre card fumbles?

Or fan fiction cards

[ashen perch]

vivre card fumbles

[graceful belfry]

Any piss enjoyers

[rose rune]

Same thing

[ashen perch]

well true

[golden valley]

That doesn’t contradict Oda involvement btw. The second they’re produced, they can contain wrong information because it is not immediately reviewed. Its case by case

[rose rune]

I do enjoy pissing

[golden valley]

Is it from shanks vivre card?

[ashen perch]

probably the first

[rose rune]

Me and queen would be a great match

[ashen perch]

found a reference to the mistake in Artur's analysis for that chapter

lemme see if I can find the original

(also right there, another mistake he talks about, from official material, that bit about Shanks having the highest bounty of all Emperors)

another example of these people quite literally making shit up

[graceful belfry]

He’d be a horrible boyfriend but at least others would be able to laugh at your expense since he’s the true most comical One Piece antagonist

[golden valley]

You can check the corrections

[ashen perch]

oh yea, that is it

[golden valley]

Vivre Cards are a database, contradictory information always gets fixed either after revision from Oda or just keeping up with the manga

[ashen perch]

but yea, I think Oda's involvement starts and ends at him giving them his sketches and basic information to include in the cards. I don't think they are undergoing a proper review from him, its entirely on that team of writers whenever they make mistakes, or fix mistakes

they are like the wiki honestly

except the editor is involved, who isnt Oda either

[warm fossil]

the vivre bros are the cause of height scaling I hate them

[ashen perch]

its a team of superfans writing them, just like the wiki but theres an editor supervising so slightly different

[ruby cape]

yooo where can you find the corrections and stuff?

[golden valley]

They probably originally don’t undergo proper revision upon first being released (even then, this is case by case), but that doesn’t mean he never does and that doesn’t sound like its the case either. Both front and back parts of the Vivre Cards have been revised before.

[potent pier]

The vivre card that gave us the hint that Frankie is his son?

[golden valley]

The Vivre Cards just are not “fan interpretations” at all.

[potent pier]

For me, which vivre cards you wanna see released?

[ashen perch]

eh, many mistakes have remained for months and years

[spice cairn]

Is there a reason why Vivre Cards exist if it has conflicting info?

[golden valley]

Sure? Depending on the character Vivre Card

[potent pier]

1. Tritoma
2. Rocks
   3)Loki
3. Gloriosa

[spice cairn]

Shouldn't there be like a group of guys that exist solely on proofreading it that isnt just Oda

[ashen perch]

they are basically a physical database, Oda wanted them to exist for that reason. I dont think there will be an infallible databook until Oda sits down to help write it after the series ends

[spice cairn]

Well yeah of course its a shounen so these battle/data books need to exist definitely

Im just surprised there isnt stronger proofreading given its One Piece

A series where if you give people an inch of misinformation theyll run a mile with it.

[potent pier]

One piece is a story where you wanna know how certain things are connected

[spice cairn]

But I suppose waiting for the "DEFINITIVE" edition when the story eventually ends is the goal.

[ashen perch]

Yea but thats an indication that they dont get checked after by Oda, most mistakes remain till Oda draws something in the manga to contradict it. Its only then that the team of writers realizes "oh yeah, we were wrong, it needs to be corrected"

[golden valley]

https://one-piece.com/vivre/revision/index.html
I would use the “translate page” option and for whatever Vivre Card you wanna see revised, put the number of the vivre card that you’re trying to see in the “No.” Box, for example, Shanks first Vivre Number is 0017, so you’d type that in the box and it shows

[ashen perch]

if a piece of information in the databooks is staying the same till Oda is directly contradicting it in the manga, then thats a clear indication of his lack of involvement there

[golden valley]

Also they have a whole apology page lol

[spice cairn]

Someone get Meeks on the phone to correct the Vivre Cards

[spice cairn]

And thats why I usually avoid these lmao

If Oda isnt directly involved with it completely then its just not really worth taking face value unless he himself confirms it.

[ashen perch]

yea, I dont think they are trying to create some perfect databook yet, a guy who works on them directly said that they are imperfect. Thats probably a post series project.

[spice cairn]

This is a normal practice for guide books generally, some mistakes are bound to happen.

[ashen perch]

for sure

[potent pier]

Still asking, which vivre cards do you want to see?

[golden valley]

But thats not necessarily true. Its case by case, like, the Lucci Haki correction thing wasn’t necessarily because of manga input, the height changes weren’t either.

[ashen perch]

the Lucci Haki thing technically was related to the manga, when Jinbe implied that Tekkai is the same as armament haki

the correction happened after that chapter

Lucci only "strengthened his haki" during the timeskip because they are now assuming that he had haki all along, because he had Tekkai.

[golden valley]

When

[ashen perch]

against WW

he has his armament haki up and says "I suppose you would call this Tekkai then?"

that

[ruby cape]

tysm goat 🙏

[rose rune]

Is pretty outside

[ashen perch]

booooooooo

youre not supposed to go outside as a member of the staff of the server

smh

[spice cairn]

Can you dive in?

[ashen perch]

it is pretty though

[rose rune]

There's a full moon

[golden valley]

Ehhhh, Tekkai isn’t purely Armament Haki. You can train your body to be sturdy at really young ages and Tekkai doesn’t block all types of attacks like Armament does. I just always assumed that Lucci’s group specifically had their Tekkai manifest Armament.

[ashen perch]

it could be like a lesser form of armament, we havent really seen what the process of learning armament looks like

[prisma yacht]

So beautiful

There's a full moon here as well

[ashen perch]

but maybe tekkai is a form of it, that you need to strengthen before reaching actual armament. Thats why the Vivre Cards implied that Lucci did have armament pre ts

[iron oriole]

tf is Enel doing making it glow so much

[dense haven]

the moon isnt real

[digital spear]

Moon arc soon

[golden valley]

True true

[steel stirrup]

Did you do this on your phone too?

If so, damn. Imagine what you could do with a better camera

[golden valley]

I think that would have to be the case for Pre-Timeskip Lucci

Like, he couldn’t use Armament offensively

[steel stirrup]

You gota crazy eye for photography Thigh

[golden valley]

Just a low level of it

[digital spear]

Im still wondering if this is legit confirmation that Tekkai is Haki or if Jinbei was just making a joke

[golden valley]

For Tekkai specifically, because Luffy’s rubber body was an issue for him

[spice cairn]

Its probably not.

Tekkai works a bit differently iirc since thats moreso a physical martial arts thing

But yeah you can HC that its a lower level Haki technique that isn't really focused on offense.

[hot cairn]

still can’t believe Jinbe got a 1v1 before Brook

[rose rune]

Too much effort. Means I have to carry around a camera

[iron oriole]

Brook solo'd BM

[runic dock]

In bed

[restive wedge]

BM in bed > BM in Wano

[spice cairn]

[prisma yacht]

https://x.com/i/status/2006954195652649444

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X · Jan 2, 2026, 5:02 AM

[grand flower]

I don’t think that’s what it is

I think Jamesbei is realizing “hey this guy just called his attack what the government guys call theirs, but he’s a pirate”

He’s basically asking, in a cheeky way, “are you actually using government techniques or are you just calling your stuff the same name”

[spice cairn]

Yeah I assume Jinbei is teasing him a bit.

[grand flower]

By saying “so should I call me using Haki ‘iron Hody’ since we just stealing names? Or are you realio dealio government” @ashen perch

[spice cairn]

Again Tekkai is very different to Haki generally speaking

[grand flower]

Yeah Tekkai is just just muscle shit

[grand flower]

Exactly

[sturdy steeple]

It's just clenching your muscle so hard that you become like steel.

[grand flower]

I taught them how to do that

[spice cairn]

Still annoying that Jabra wasnt in Egghead

[grand flower]

Fr

[sturdy steeple]

Oda decided that number three is not allowed

[spice cairn]

Oda teased him during Reveire and thats it.

[grand flower]

Ik Theres people out there calling that a Sanji downscale

[sturdy steeple]

Probably failed his awakening entrance exam

[grand flower]

[sturdy steeple]

Kind of stupid tbh. I liked his dynamics with Kaku and Lucci.

Because he was the one igniting the rivalry.

[spice cairn]

Stussy being more qualified for the mission despite being a psyop for VP is funny to me

[restive wedge]

If Oda did the same Jabra reacting to giraffe bit again in Egghead I would still laugh just as hard

[spice cairn]

Jabra was definitely the instigating middleman, yeah it was great.

I just also like his zoan design quite a bit.

[grand flower]

I like how he tried to trick Sanji too

That bit is funny as hell

[golden valley]

We need more people like this

[grand flower]

Also apparently there’s a rooster in Norse myth that’s pretty impoetant

Or a few of them

[high wolf]

But Sanji didn't fall for it cuz he's HIM

[grand flower]

And Usopp woke up Jabra in a gag with a rooster

And wolves are pretty impoetant in Norse myth too

Fenrir, the wolves that chase the sun and moon, Theres another destructive wolf too

[golden valley]

We deserved more Kaku and Jabra rivalry scenes, Jabra kinda had beef with lucci too tho

[spice cairn]

Yeah Jabra was jelly

[grand flower]

lol did you ever see what caused it?

According to an SBS, when Lucci came back from water 7, Jabra’s girl left him cause she thinks Lucci is better looking

[grand flower]

Jabra has a really cool design

He’s my favorite out of CP9

[iron oriole]

Jobra deserved a chance to redeem himself

[high wolf]

Why would jabura be sidelined like this??

[golden valley]

No freaking way

LMAO

[restive wedge]

Jabra come back pleeasse

[grand flower]

@spice cairn check your DMs btw

[grand flower]

Deadass

[high wolf]

Yeah she was a cafeteria worker at enies lobby iirc

[fast pagoda]

Jabra is so cool

Also Kalifa is a freak for saying that

[high wolf]

It's the truth tho 💔

[sturdy steeple]

Jabura's girl is something else though

[brittle basin]

Jabra seems to be the least memorable of the troop.

[spice cairn]

I wouldnt say that

[high wolf]

Are we forgetting fukurou?

Or whatever his name is

[brittle basin]

He is at least physically unique looking with a goofy laugh

[sturdy steeple]

Jabura is like the most memorable lol

[fast pagoda]

Kumadori is cool but sorta forgettable

[blazing depot]

Kumadori the best one

[fast pagoda]

I hate Fukuro but hes kinda memorable

[high wolf]

Nah I forgot about him until someone mentioned him to me

[brittle basin]

Again, the visuals make it more easy to remember by comparison.

[high wolf]

He's also very forgettable.

[blazing depot]

One of my favorite parts of CP9 is that everyone except maybe Blueno is a certified insane person

[blazing depot]

Yall don’t fuck with his skits??

[brittle basin]

But when talking about CP9 on this server, Jabra gets mentioned probably -1% of the time unirionically.

[fast pagoda]

Blueno is memorable only for Gear 2 tbh

[blazing depot]

He was in Film Red too

Got turned into a marketable plushie

[restive wedge]

FIlm Red really boosted his popularity in my eyes

[iron oriole]

Blueno's DF is OP too

[spice cairn]

Blueno makes good drinks

[iron oriole]

Oda left him out of Egghead because he could skip an entire plot device in the barrier

[fast pagoda]

True

[spice cairn]

Jabra would've spent most of the time trapped in the bubble fucking with Kaku

[fast pagoda]

Jabra is cool though I wont accept his slander

Hes not forgettable

[sturdy steeple]

Ayo?????

[blazing depot]

We love Robin’s long lost brother Jabra

[iron oriole]

tbh the only reason i remember Jabra is because of Jobra

[brittle basin]

he is the Wolf-man, that's how I remember him

[muted hedge]

he is jealous of Lucci, that's how i remember him

[sturdy steeple]

Jabura's fight with Sanji is the competitive match of proving who is the biggest troll of all Ennies Lobby.

[dense haven]

jabra is robins brother

[iron oriole]

the only ones i remember tbh are Lucci, Kaku, Kalifa & Jabra

[brittle basin]

I don't even remember his fight. I mostly remember Kaku, Lucci, and Kalifa's fight.

[iron oriole]

same

[brittle basin]

'cause they are the most memorable

[dense haven]

how tf dont people remember kumadori man

[fast pagoda]

He laughed at giraffe kaku which was funny

[dense haven]

hes so underrated

[iron oriole]

is kumadori the powerscaling guy?

[fast pagoda]

Kumadori is neat

[brittle basin]

!powerscale

!powerscaling

[tropic nova]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/833428729266438194/1034873060886577253/unknown.png

[fast pagoda]

Nah thats fukuro

[iron oriole]

ah

[dense haven]

bro trying to commit seppuku and failing because he automatically uses iron body is one of the funniest gags

[spice cairn]

Kumadori is definitely super memorable

[iron oriole]

idr their names

[sturdy steeple]

Kumadori was pretty funny

[haughty saddle]

Kumadori was the funny one

[sturdy steeple]

But he kind of doesn't stand out

[fast pagoda]

Fukuro is so ugly

[proud pivot]

@haughty saddle @haughty saddle @haughty saddle @haughty saddle @haughty saddle @haughty saddle

[dense haven]

dearest mother yoiyoi

[haughty saddle]

ARI IM ALREADY HERE

[spice cairn]

He has a bazillion hair strains that somehow act on their own that isnt a DF power btw.

[proud pivot]

HELLO

[haughty saddle]

WHAT UP DAWG

[proud pivot]

MERRY CHRISTMAS HAPPY NEW YEARS CAMERON HRU

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/apple7apo/status/2007104605461581889/photo/1

あぽ (@apple7apo)

Prince & Princess

X · Jan 2, 2026, 3:00 PM

[iron oriole]

oh Kumadori is the one thats Kanjuro's brother

[haughty saddle]

MERRY CHRISTMAS HAPPY NEW YEARRRRRRR

I’m great hby friend

[brittle basin]

Pre-ts inking, my beloved.

[dense haven]

yall liking 2026?

[spice cairn]

A giraffe falling from the roof

[haughty saddle]

HELL yeah

[proud pivot]

I took pol sci and econ classes for independent activities period, holy yapfest 😹😹

[haughty saddle]

It’s the year of the Cameron, spice

[proud pivot]

I am grinding my CoC base

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/view/kaku-one-piece-kaku-one-piece-cp9-zoro-gif-27117332

minecraf

[muted hedge]

it started to snow, so not really

[haughty saddle]

Pol sci is fun, Econ is torture

[fast pagoda]

Pre ts paneling my beloved

[brittle basin]

i got work so it's all the same to me. years just blend together

[spice cairn]

Yeah im just working thus far

[fast pagoda]

I think Skypeia-EL was the best era for Odas paneling and inking

[haughty saddle]

I’m stuck on TH14 maxing heroes. Have been for months 😭

Or whatever TH gives the Royal champion I forget

[iron oriole]

ew slow maxing

we rush these days

[proud pivot]

BRO WHAT IS UR ID, ME, ROKAYA, HILDI AND ROOM ARE IN A CLAN TOGETHER

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/jesse-breaking-bad-walter-white-jesse-pinkman-walter-gif-16654937694077157239

[spice cairn]

Theyre talking about Pokemon

[muted hedge]

Clash of Clans is still alive?

[proud pivot]

Very much so

[high wolf]

Ye

[muted hedge]

i thought Clash Royale took over

[proud pivot]

It's like the Fortnite of playstore games

[brittle basin]

I thought it was Pokemon at first too but then they said "heroes" and I thought it was gachaslop.

[proud pivot]

Never dies

[haughty saddle]

It’s only like one of the highest earning games on mobile in history

[spice cairn]

Pokemons are kind of like heroes....

[brittle basin]

Wait true

[fast pagoda]

There is a pokemon gacha game

[iron oriole]

i bet Candy Crush will forever be top 1

[muted hedge]

there's a gacha game for everything

[fast pagoda]

With human trainers too lol

[brittle basin]

What if I use Pokemon for terroristic activies then? Will they be put on a list?

[haughty saddle]

I’ll grab it later and bother Rokaya to let me in

[haughty saddle]

As long as we have police in the US, most certainly

[iron oriole]

Pokemon Masters EX

[haughty saddle]

[proud pivot]

It's a random clan we all decided to join in 😭 anyway ttyl

[spice cairn]

I love these ooc Bounty Rush thumbnails

[fast pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/team-plasma-pokemon-gif-6622918080455704229

[muted hedge]

i wonder how many people have gone broke from Bounty Rush addiction

[fast pagoda]

It's probably canon accurate too

[high wolf]

Bro was genuinely one of the best units in the game when he came out 😭

[wraith mantle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWYE1CT9otQ

[iron oriole]

knowing Bandai prices.... at least 27 families

[muted hedge]

all i know about Bounty Rush is that the units are near impossible to get and Roger was the meta for like 4 years

[muted hedge]

you're probably not far off

[high wolf]

That game is one of the most P2W games I've ever played 😭

[fast pagoda]

Cool video

[iron oriole]

the rates are ass yeah

[spice cairn]

Yeah both it and OTPC are pretty cruel for F2Ps iirc

[wraith mantle]

this optuber is peak

[fast pagoda]

I love Dawn Dusk i just wish he would stop using AI

[fast pagoda]

His theories are peak though

[iron oriole]

OPTC is just a 1 month/year game these days anyway

[brittle basin]

all I know about Bounty Rush is it's not the cool DBFighterZ game we deserve. Or perhaps we do deserve only shitty OP games, we are OP fans after all.

[iron oriole]

daily logins & just pull when its anni

[wraith mantle]

maybe he doesnt like voicing his own videos

[fast pagoda]

Nah I dont mean that

[wraith mantle]

glad he found a tool that allowed im to still produce video still

[muted hedge]

i thought Dawn & Dusk were 100% ai

[fast pagoda]

He actually does have another channel where he uses his voice and face for shorter videos

[wraith mantle]

oh

[fast pagoda]

I just meant some of the art

[fast pagoda]

They found out Law faked his backstory and got offended because they have a real sad backstory

[pale trail]

is this cringe or peam

[digital spear]

What does this mean

[spice cairn]

I found a goldmine

BR thumbnails that can pass for vagueposting

[spice cairn]

The Bonney/Kuma unit can counter the law unit in BR

But just pretend its a Morji thumbnail

[muted hedge]

aren't there official comic strips for Bounty Rush?

[fast pagoda]

What channel are you getting these from

[spice cairn]

A random one called beaststopperbr

[pale trail]

I on other hand want to know what AI he is using for that voice

[spice cairn]

Or whatever the channel name is.

[digital spear]

My brother is asking for more

[spice cairn]

Idk any of the metagame lore but this thumbnail is knocking me out

[muted hedge]

is this the foundation for why the meme started?

[digital spear]

Why are there so many Jabra ones

[spice cairn]

Apparently according to past comments I guess he was very good at some point

[iron oriole]

Jabra was meta for a while yeah

[spice cairn]

Imagine if this wasnt labeled with the BR logo without no context of the game whatsoever lmao

[muted hedge]

people would think it was real

[dense haven]

battle royale?

[high wolf]

He was one of the best units in the game

[spice cairn]

This makes for very good bait.

[iron oriole]

Kuzan is faster & can freeze his opponents

[spice cairn]

I still need to restart my account

[barren token]

Its so funny when unexpected characters become meta in anime games

[spice cairn]

I love it.

Its a great trope

[barren token]

Last time I checked in with bounty rush goldenweek was considered a top 3 character

[iron oriole]

devs have an agenda to push

[barren token]

https://tenor.com/view/miss-goldenweek-ms-goldenweek-goldenweek-baroque-works-one-piece-gif-26262842

[digital spear]

[spice cairn]

Pokemon GO is the same. The best units are the shittest forgettable mons imaginable

Its so amazing

[proud pivot]

🌋

[spice cairn]

These are genuinely so charming

[fast pagoda]

I remember OPBR has a shirtless Saturn skin

[spice cairn]

The devs really enjoy producing stuff for this game and it shows

[iron oriole]

Garp was broken af when he released

idk how good he is now

[muted hedge]

shame that it's so expensive

[dense haven]

like this?

[muted hedge]

they had some foresight here

[spice cairn]

Emoji potential

[blazing depot]

https://tenor.com/view/always-sunny-in-philadelphia-naked-pics-online-where-disgusting-meme-mac-gif-22972301

[spice cairn]

@pine scaffold

Dude, look at this shit

[brittle basin]

this scene is so good

[hot cairn]

@pine scaffold

[digital spear]

@pine scaffold

[muted hedge]

oh god

[dense haven]

this is how you do fanservise skins

[digital spear]

They all did WHAT

[spice cairn]

This so cute

[high wolf]

😭😭

[spice cairn]

Humiliated even in non Canon video game interactions

Ayyy caramba

[dense haven]

!lalaluli

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/164971940648321024/419097501396762624/fd746b2-1.jpg

[muted hedge]

these are genuinely funny

[spice cairn]

Final War interaction

[iron oriole]

Caesar > Kata confirmed

[spice cairn]

Its so over

[muted hedge]

isn't this the Odyssey character

[digital spear]

Caesar is Admiral level

Yes

[spice cairn]

Even the Bounty Rush devs think Katakuri is stupid

Yeah hes from Odyssey

[brittle basin]

Why doesn't Chopper wield giant syrigines filled with dangerous fluid? Is he stupid?

[muted hedge]

true

the surgeon of death, literally

[digital spear]

Erm hippocratic oath

[brittle basin]

Oops! He doesn't exist in this world!
"First, only do harm" - Chopper

[muted hedge]

poor Kaido

[spice cairn]

Lmao

[fast pagoda]

He's so cute

[runic dock]

I love thinking about what was going through their minds at this moment , since it was hallucination gas

Ceasar would be the best DMT trip sitter

[spice cairn]

It was probably a very awkward conversation afterwards

[runic dock]

“No dude , why the fuck would I have a knife to brûlée’s neck? If you thought about it for 1 second …”

[spice cairn]

Yeah lmao

[muted hedge]

i wonder what's in store for Katakuris future

him becoming the heir of the Big Mom pirates is pretty much guaranteed

though i wonder if he'll become much of a pirate or just stay on Wholecake Island acting as a king so to speak

[rich hornet]

Future Blackbeard victim

[muted hedge]

that would probably be the most boring outcome

[fast pagoda]

I def want to see him as leader of the BMP a lot

If Big Mom comes back (she will) he's def fighting her

[muted hedge]

i don't know about that

[wraith mantle]

so man marked by flames will show up in 2026 right?

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/lit-fire-guy-fieri-fire-emoji-gif-5305277

man marked by flames

[prisma yacht]

[fast pagoda]

Hinokizu the goat already

[muted hedge]

i feel like we'll see the man marked by flames after Elbaph has concluded

so maybe early 2027

[fast pagoda]

Well Oda already said it was coming 2026 apparently

But he just be saying anything at Jump Festa

[muted hedge]

he did?

[fast pagoda]

Yeah

[muted hedge]

oh right

he did

well, i'm still going to say late 2026 then

[fast pagoda]

Probably after end of Elbaph

Do yall think Hinokizu is Davy Jones, Imu, Gyaban or an OC

[muted hedge]

if i had to guess it would be a totally new character

[fast pagoda]

I think its either Davy or a new guy

[muted hedge]

i think Davy Jones is dead, other than Blackbeards ambition

[red lagoon]

Zuko

i should have known

[fast pagoda]

Zutara sneak

[rich hornet]

Def boring, but inevitable unless BB lets Pudding go when he’s done with her

[pine ridge]

!os2

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1211111343852228638/1217297722005131304/os2.png?ex=660383d9&is=65f10ed9&hm=697d64535cfacf5ff8c5988c2eddd1d810a9ddaed811efce4680f835ece1173a&

[digital spear]

That cracks me up too also they say Zuko is Shamrock apparently

[rich hornet]

I’ve never seen zuko and shamrock in the same place same time..

[digital spear]

Curious...

[muted hedge]

i've never watched Avatar

[inner agate]

katara is NOT his gf

[rose rune]

That's the guy from fairytail

!fairytail

[tropic nova]

💩

[pulsar timber]

He did?

[prisma yacht]

I think he did

[echo talon]

Is this break week?

[prisma yacht]

Yes

[mighty shell]

but sokka famously can't bend

[strong wadi]

Based off previous years, you can expect the chapter around the 15th

[prisma yacht]

Chapter 1170 isn't officially out yet

[rich hornet]

He can bend something

[prisma yacht]

Oda also concluded his jump fiesta msg with "we continue sailing next year at the fastest op speed"

[inner agate]

sokka is usopp if he was well written

[rich hornet]

Is it crazy to think we could be heading to LT this time next year?

[wraith mantle]

loki's DF is volibear

[brittle basin]

sure

[urban lodge]

Yes

[wraith mantle]

hes a bear who can summon lightning

[urban lodge]

There's probably not a single case of everything Oda says at Jump Festa happening that year

[muted hedge]

does Oda play WoW?

[urban lodge]

And he meant Lodestar anyway

[muted hedge]

as i assume that bear is from WoW

[rich hornet]

Lighting is a hammer thing, not Loki

[rich hornet]

Lodestar doesn’t matter

[prisma yacht]

Well everything for the first time

[urban lodge]

Never forget that he was talking about post Wano stuff in Jump Festa 2019

Stuff that happened in 2022

[prisma yacht]

What do y'all think we will be talking about next year this same time

I say godsopp and Hajrudin will be the hot topics

[brittle basin]

Wow, Imu is so hot.

[rich hornet]

Word on the street is arsal has a list of festa promises and when they were fulfilled and sometimes it was same year

[pulsar timber]

I think so yeah. Don’t think we are getting to Laughtale yet

[prisma yacht]

Mmm so glue

[pulsar timber]

We need to find the last glyph, and there will be a fight just for it

[brittle basin]

lmfao you'll be lucky if we're at the end of Elbaf by this time next year

[urban lodge]

The message from 2 years ago hasn't even happened yet

[scarlet nacelle]

man marked by flames glaze

[urban lodge]

"that man vs that man"

[trim lily]

the battle we've all been waiting for

[muted hedge]

maybe we have Imu's face reveal at that point

[urban lodge]

I'm pretty confident that's where Luffy and Shanks will meet

[muted hedge]

i think so too

[scarlet nacelle]

can't that be literally any fight

[trim lily]

lodestar is basically the natural conclusion of any voyage so it makes sense for the major players to all reach there

[rich hornet]

I think if lodestar never got mentioned from here on, people wouldn’t notice

It’s all about hinokizu

[urban lodge]

It's implied to be a pretty major one

[muted hedge]

why wouldn't Lodestar be important when it's the last island recorded

it's the last checkpoint before Laugh Tale

[prisma yacht]

I don't think we will be getting that before 2027's March

[rich hornet]

We know what’s there already

[trim lily]

we know theres an info poneglyph there but thats it

we know theres giants on elbaf so why did we even bother coming here

[scarlet nacelle]

it's the only island that'd make sense to be put between now and when they find laughtale
can't think of anywhere else the straw hats woud go before hand considering we're at basically the end of the grandline

[rich hornet]

One more red stone and they are going straight to LT. That’s the trajectory

[trim lily]

yeah

and theyll find that at lodestar

[prisma yacht]

What's lt

[trim lily]

(cause thats where the burn scar will be)

[trim lily]

oda moment

[rich hornet]

He might but why would he

[prisma yacht]

Lodestar?

[trim lily]

why not

[rich hornet]

It’s in the absolute middle of nowhere

[trim lily]

the final island by log pose

[dapper tree]

kuby vs kuzan is happenign

[trim lily]

itd be bizarre for us to just not go to the final island

[urban lodge]

"At last, it'll happen"
Definitely a big one that he knows people have been expecting

[dapper tree]

going to lodestar next

[prisma yacht]

Yeah I mean thats lt?

[muted hedge]

there's a lot of fights which people have been expecting

[trim lily]

it also has some poneglyph lore but thats all we know so far

[dapper tree]

shu vs zoro rematch

[scarlet nacelle]

and it all banks on them finding the man marked by flames and his poneglyph

[trim lily]

this is "we're skipping elbaf" tier

[rich hornet]

That was only true until Zou. The. Oda said actually we can skip it if we want. And he’s going “as fast as possible towards the end”

[trim lily]

in theory we could, but why would we

we have to find the final poneglyph somewhere so might as well put it there

[rich hornet]

Because there’s nothing useful there unless it happens to be flameo’s base

[urban lodge]

That's true for almost every island before we go there

[trim lily]

do you think we're just going straight to laughtale now after elbaf

[urban lodge]

Oda can make up a reason why it's important

I think it's because Shanks will be there

[rich hornet]

It’s a hunt for the last glyph and then LT

[muted hedge]

wouldn't surprise me if Shanks has a base of sorts on Lodestar

[scarlet nacelle]

think about it
if luffy sees lodestar is he just gonna go "oh, good thing we get to skip that one"
no of course he wouldn't. he definetely would try exploring it
and it'd make sense if something was put there for the straw hats to find

[prisma yacht]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY LT
LODESTAR
OR
LAUGHTALE

[trim lily]

he does strike me as a gatekeeper

[pulsar timber]

This is still an adventure. Luffy is gonna want to go there regardless. I think they’ll get there since getting to Laughtale will be a pain anyways. Could even be the location for the battle for the last stone

[prisma yacht]

Ok it's laughtale

[rich hornet]

Why would lodestar shorten to LT lol

[urban lodge]

Luffy will absolutely want to go there because it also was only reached by Roger

[trim lily]

my vision for lodestar has always been it being a 4-way emperor battle for the final glyph

[rich hornet]

It could be, but it absolutely could be skipped too

[urban lodge]

(As far as we know)

[scarlet nacelle]

lodetar

[muted hedge]

to me, the journey would feel incomplete if we just skipped Lodestar

[trim lily]

i still refuse to believe that

[ashen perch]

I mean just the fact that they are still following the logpose confirms that Lodestar is indeed happening

[muted hedge]

it's like when you get 99% on a game and skip that 1%

[trim lily]

lodestar only having been reached by roger is so stupid if oda keeps to it

[muted hedge]

that's what it would be if we skipped Lodestar

[rich hornet]

They only followed the pose twice since the TS

[scarlet nacelle]

oda def hiding something on lodestar
if not the final clue to laughtale's location then smth else

[ashen perch]

the logpose serves no purpose if they are not going to what its leading to, that being the final island

[ashen perch]

the logpose was just brought up as recently as chapter 1090

[prisma yacht]

lodetar

[digital spear]

Oda actually said we will see the burnscar man and not just "we will see that man" this time, character development?

[sturdy steeple]

Lodestar honestly sounds like the perfect place for all emperors to fight

[trim lily]

its the last island everyone will get to by log pose so i feel it makes sense

[dapper tree]

he's just lying

There is no burn scar man

[muted hedge]

i mean, most die on the way

[prisma yacht]

Only monke king

[ashen perch]

Its mentioned that they had 3 islands to follow from Wano, Egghead/Elbaf/Winner and Nami confirms that they can indeed go to Elbaf like VP wants them to because the Logpose had not locked in on a new direction just yet

[rich hornet]

It’s a natural place for the chase for Hinokizu to conclude, I’ll give you that. Would be convenient snd Oda loves convenience

[dapper tree]

don't start that

[urban lodge]

I think Shanks made it there too, but probably only him

[prisma yacht]

ok I'm sry

[trim lily]

surely shanks has 3 poneglyphs right

[muted hedge]

everyone who were on Roger's crew has technically been there, yeah

[scarlet nacelle]

if oda had NO intent in diving deeper into lodestar
why mention it at all then?
chekhovs gun

[dapper tree]

he probs does now

[scarlet nacelle]

if an element of the story is introduced

it has to be used

[rich hornet]

That was a good way to break up the supernovas, and kick off the final saga. Once we are in these sagas, it’s not usual to kind other ways to navigate. And I don’t think they find a traveling ship by following the pose

[ashen perch]

I think only Roger Pirates have actually been there even now tbh, its supposed to be a near impossible feat too

[urban lodge]

Shanks should have 2 unless Luffy gave Kid Zou out of pity too

[digital spear]

Its even portrayed as a 4 way cross star

[trim lily]

i don’t like that

i feel the impossible feat should be collecting the 4 road poneglyphs and reading them

[ashen perch]

well I wouldnt like it if others had reached it

[rich hornet]

It’s the truth

[trim lily]

the whole point of lodestar is it points you to the road poneglyphs

[urban lodge]

But I'm sure Shanks can easily find Zou too and they'd just give it to him since he was a Roger pirate

[ashen perch]

how do you know

[trim lily]

that’s what we know about it

basically all we know really lol

[muted hedge]

well, it's conveying that it's such a dangerous path that only the pirate king himself succeded in getting to it

it's really just another way to emphasize the dangers of the seas

[digital spear]

Surely one of the emperors would sail to Lodestar out of curiosity right

[trim lily]

you would think

[rich hornet]

Intentions can change. It served a purpose, through Roger

[trim lily]

wano is apparently fairly close by

[ashen perch]

its not something you can do out of curiosity

[trim lily]

if you can make it to wano i’m sure you can make it to lodestar

[digital spear]

its something you can do by just sailing to the end of the logpose route

[ashen perch]

how do you know though

[rich hornet]

Wano is in the first half of NW. I think even the first quarter. Still a long journey

[trim lily]

unless there’s a big fuck you obstacle right before it i don’t see why not

[ashen perch]

its a near impossible feat, only pulled off by Roger's Crew, why would that be the case?

[strong wadi]

first pulled off by the Roger Crew

[digital spear]

what would stop the emperors to keep sailing the logposes?

[fluid cedar]

It probably takes years for the log pose to lock onto it if no one went to lodestar except roger pirates

[distant moat]

Kidd pirates made it to lodestar

[trim lily]

so wise

[ashen perch]

whatever stopped anyone from getting there before Roger

[muted hedge]

it required excellent navigation through tough weather fronts

[sturdy steeple]

The battle for the final poneglyph will commence there

[mighty shell]

spongebob squarepants

[ashen perch]

what is so difficult to understand, the whole idea of the grandline is that it gets progressively more dangerous

[trim lily]

ok so basically neither of us know lol

[ashen perch]

ofc the last island is the hardest to reach

[digital spear]

it doesnt seem like more than a year for Roger because he was on Hachinosu just before

[rich hornet]

Also you have to dodge all the strongest pirate territories

[trim lily]

we don’t know what’s stopping people from just reaching lodestar via the pose

[ashen perch]

yes, but the "what" does not matter

[dapper tree]

weather

maybe the burn man

[ashen perch]

it is a thing, its not something you can just doubt lol

no one but Roger had reached it before

[trim lily]

well it’s something i can dislike

maybe doubt was the wrong word

[ashen perch]

???

I am genuinely confused, why would you dislike it?

[muted hedge]

yeah that too

[digital spear]

Dolfius did say dislike

[strong wadi]

People shouldnt even be shooting for laugh tale if they cant even make it to lode star

[mighty shell]

he just never misses

[trim lily]

i think it’s stupid

[scarlet nacelle]

well
wb was never interested in all the laughtale stuff
kaido and bm gave up
shanks already went
buggy also already went
and luffy and bb both just haven't gotten the chance between all they've been doing

[ashen perch]

a core characteristic of the grandline is that it fucking kills

[muted hedge]

i wonder if this feint will be similair to how Laugh Tale actually appears

[ashen perch]

its impossible to navigate in these waters

[fast pagoda]

Huh

[muted hedge]

since this straight up looks like a remnant of the ancient kingdom

[scarlet nacelle]

why is laughtale depicted with a musseum looking building

[trim lily]

well if roger could do it why couldn’t anyone else

[ashen perch]

because Roger is that good

[rich hornet]

Roger was that guy

[fast pagoda]

Do you mean colosseum

[strong wadi]

Let's say laugh tale is the most difficult place to get to. If you can't even get to the 2nd most, you're just cooked 😭

+You dont know where 1/2 of the road poneglyphs are located, so ofc you are going to try and check all known quantities for it. That would include lode star

[ashen perch]

his crew is that good

[distant moat]

Ancient world architecture

[scarlet nacelle]

idk man it could be anything

[muted hedge]

i love the architecture personally

[rich hornet]

Rocks could have if he wanted but thats not his goal

[trim lily]

i just can’t believe that in 800 years he was the only one capable of being that good

[ashen perch]

Roger is the greatest to ever do it, thats kind of the thing about him

[trim lily]

that’s a very long stretch of time

[fast pagoda]

Well nobody except Roger has made it to Lodestar either

[digital spear]

Well thats the thing did Shanks go or not? And I feel like Rocks shouldve tried it with his pirates because who would stop them, unless it really has nothing to do with their goal

Wait are you saying Shanks and Buggy went there as kids with the Roger pirates? they werent born yet

[strong wadi]

idk if y'all cant read or what but im tired of having to correct this every day

[ashen perch]

its a core characteristic of him, the man who did all the impossibles

[rich hornet]

The WG also restricted who could even sail the GL for most of history

[scarlet nacelle]

we get to laughtale and it's just ancient rome

[muted hedge]

i'd be down for that, ancient rome looked very cool

[trim lily]

yeah i suppose proper sailing could’ve only taken off in the last couple centuries

[strong wadi]

Roger is the first person to reach Lode star 29 years ago. That doesn't mean no one else reached it in those 29 years

[rich hornet]

WG control over the GL has only loosened in recent decades

[trim lily]

i’ll accept that explanation

[fast pagoda]

I like the theory that island Shanks visited the wedding on was Lodestar, though

[trim lily]

if people since roger have gotten there i’ll be fine

[brittle basin]

SMH Oda can't even come up with his own worldbuilding, he has to steal from history.

[fast pagoda]

Would make a cool parallel to Whisky Peak

[ashen perch]

Adam, your argument falls apart when Oda himself is clearly talking about Lodestar even now when he is saying that no one but Roger had reached that island

[trim lily]

greedy oda plagiarizing from another world’s history

[muted hedge]

the only one who i feel is guaranteed to have been to Lodestar recently, would be Shanks

[trim lily]

probably

[strong wadi]

"I know there are 4 road poneglyphs that are needed to get to Laugh tale. I know Roger made it to Lode star. Public information is that Kaido has 1, BM has 1 (and apparently recently, burnscar man has 1), that still leaves 1 unaccounted for. I will definitely not go to Lodestar to look for that unaccounted one. 🧘‍♂️

[ashen perch]

There's a 0% chance that Oda is talking about Laugh Tale

[digital spear]

What stops Kaido and Big Mom from flying to Lodestar later

[ashen perch]

YC, we will get these answers

[scarlet nacelle]

there was one in zou

[distant moat]

God i hope so. Id be unbelievably disappointed if we get the one piece now

[prisma yacht]

Posture check guys

[scarlet nacelle]

they're dead

[strong wadi]

yes, i am well aware. No one else in the one piece verse is aware.

[ashen perch]

this is pointless, it doesnt matter what stopped them

[rich hornet]

Big doubt anyone lived on lodestar

[prisma yacht]

ding ding ding

[digital spear]

Well im wondering

[distant moat]

Caught my ass slouching😭

[ashen perch]

what we do know: something did stop them and that is a fact

[ashen perch]

grandline sucks

[trim lily]

bartolomeo no diffed it

[fast pagoda]

What if both the first and last main island on the Grand Line featured cacti and crosses

[ashen perch]

and it gets worse and worse as you go deeper into it

so the deepest part of it is the worst part

[distant moat]

Barto the goat

[digital spear]

I hope this is the case

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/dwight-schrute-the-office-standing-desk-gif-27703796

[distant moat]

Whiskey peak isnt THE first island though its one of many potential first islands

[scarlet nacelle]

crazy how some people (not pirates, just normal civillians) made the CHOICE to live in the grandline

[distant moat]

Ts was not a choice for some of them😭😭

[urban lodge]

Even if someone else did make it to Lodestar we don't know that yet, so it's still applies

[rich hornet]

Could have been stuck there since VC

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/klasik-clasik-clasic-gif-25398314

[digital spear]

99% were born there

[ashen perch]

we do know, Oda directly said that

[scarlet nacelle]

ok but the ancestors back in the distant distant past chose to go their

what was their deal

[fast pagoda]

I meant islands visited by the Straw Hats

[strong wadi]

show me the quote

[ashen perch]

I mean this

[digital spear]

Its pinned Arsal thinks Oda refers to Lodestar

[brittle basin]

this was recent right?

[muted hedge]

yeah

[ashen perch]

it can only refer to Lodestar

[strong wadi]

oh, so it's just arsal being arsal

[trim lily]

i think it’s lodestar too

[ashen perch]

yea, december

[strong wadi]

oops wrong reply

[rich hornet]

Only?

[ashen perch]

yes

[brittle basin]

never reply wrongly to me. there are consequences.

[trim lily]

actually never mind i think it could refer to laughtale

[digital spear]

What if Oda just wants us to think we finally go to Laugh Tale so he words it like this

[fast pagoda]

Yeah it sounds like bait

[ashen perch]

Laugh Tale is not an option, the next island is not Laugh Tale, they are nowhere close to getting there, lets be real for a second

[trim lily]

oda doesnt say it’s the next one, just in general will we get there

[brittle basin]

Oda would do this.

[high wolf]

It could refer to Laughtale also but lodestar is more likely since it's too early for them to reach it.

Not to mention Roger stated that he was the only one to reach lodestar, at least when he arrived.

[ashen perch]

I feel like I am going insane

[urban lodge]

It's bait because he knows people are definitely going to fall for it

[trim lily]

you are

[ashen perch]

why would the next island be Laugh Tale

[trim lily]

[brittle basin]

we need to hurry this series up. he just turned 51

[fast pagoda]

It would be ridiculous if they met Hinokizu, got the Road Poneglyph, and reached Laugh Tale in a single year

[digital spear]

Yeah its a question and the answer can just be no

[muted hedge]

i feel like Laugh Tale would be too early

[trim lily]

the strawhats will all DIE

[muted hedge]

since Oda has said that the series will end when we see what the one piece is

[fast pagoda]

Where was this Oda during Wano and Dressrosa man

[distant moat]

Tbf oda frames it as a question as in “will that be this year or will it not?” I think its just hyping stuff up