also-manga

[hoary steppe]

I think so

Idk

But lowkey, knowing WG racism… yeah

[sage temple]

Also it's weird how they were going to promote Loki to a Holy Knight immediately

[trim lily]

it makes more sense now

[hoary steppe]

Wasn’t this is the first time Neptune attended reverie ,?

[sage temple]

I wonder what this fruit is exactly that would fulfil Imu's goal

[trim lily]

just do a harald to him

[fallen meteor]

garlic and his son shallot

[hoary steppe]

I might be wrong

[sage temple]

I think it might just because of his DF

[trim lily]

that could be part of it

[hoary steppe]

Bro saw loki ate that legendary fruit

[sage temple]

Because Harald, when controlled, went for the DF immediately

[trim lily]

but i imagine they didn’t actually intend to let him retain his independence

[fallen meteor]

#jokesfortoddlers

[trim lily]

finish the job harald started or whatever

[sage temple]

Yeah probably a Gunko type situation

[strong wadi]

I mean as soon as you get that deep contract, you're cooked

[hoary steppe]

Jokes on you, i’d enjoy lobster

[sage temple]

But since they didn't go for Hajrudin it looks like it's a fruit/strength thing

[trim lily]

i suppose as long as you’re on imu’s side it won’t be too bad

[sage temple]

Also Sommers was the one Oda drew with the Imu control thing

[hoary steppe]

Why would bro hire a fodder ahh giant 😭

[sage temple]

Does this mean Sommers will be redeemed 😭

This isn't his true self

[sage temple]

[strong wadi]

If he could be considered the king of elbaf, just that is enough

[hoary steppe]

Fair enough, but elbaf is kingless

[sage temple]

Idk if Imu cares about that

They literally made their own kings

[hoary steppe]

He straight up choose the strongest of them all too

[strong wadi]

It'd be easier just to get hajrudin

[hoary steppe]

Probably hes weak ? Idk

Like Imu choose dorry and broggu

[fallen meteor]

#newtheory
The world of One Piece = our world
Imu is the Sea Devil or the Sea Devil df user, and since our world is now deep underwater from the water rising(or the ground sinking) now cultural stuff from OUR world = sea stuff
Thats why he can reign over yokais or modern looking shotguns - those are all deep underwater and thus on the domain of the sea

[hoary steppe]

Strongest of em alll

[sage temple]

True

[strong wadi]

because they were right there

[sage temple]

I don't think distance is a problem lol

[hoary steppe]

I mean, even id hajrudin there… i still think imu would choose dorry 😭

[strong wadi]

Ok, show me when domi reversi has been used from range

[sage temple]

Lmao

God Valley

[rose rune]

?

[strong wadi]

show the page

[rose rune]

you mean the davy people who got flipped?

[fallen meteor]

Socrates is kinda right but its unclear

[hoary steppe]

Davy D clan being demonized

Entire xebec family

[fallen meteor]

theres some people that argue that it was Shamrock or someone else there that domi'd them with some sort of passed authority

[fallen meteor]

but its true that nobody felt Imu before he arrived on Saturn and people already were domi'd

[fluid cedar]

garling was with them

[rose rune]

well, we don't really know. and honestly Oda might not have thought about it either

[hoary steppe]

Aint no way garling demonize them

[strong wadi]

So Imu domi reversi'd them from Marejois? That's what you're going with?

[trim lily]

yeah we have no idea how the domi reversi on god valley worked

either the knights can do it somehow or imu can do it ranged

[sage temple]

It's almost like this is the logical explanation here and nothing so far says you can't do it long-range lmao

[fallen meteor]

please dont let it being one of my messages from reading this
i feel its interesting

[hoary steppe]

I mean the domi reversi is the only known ability from imu so far

[rose rune]

maybe it's like a thing where he needs to be closer if the opponents are strong?

[hoary steppe]

Specially from imu

[tranquil blade]

Well aside from the marks

[sage temple]

Yeah Imu could've used another ability to do it at that range

[hoary steppe]

Ohh yea

[tranquil blade]

Which definitely is his ability

and the possession stuff

[sage temple]

There are plenty of pages in that book

[rose rune]

Rocks was the only one he had to feel up to turn into a demon after all

[sage temple]

3 so far

[hoary steppe]

This is why imu is using magic!!

[sage temple]

Exactly

[pulsar timber]

Yall think imu be speedreading?

[tranquil blade]

Probably

[sage temple]

We don't know the implcations of it

[tranquil blade]

but he had 800 years to read so idk

[prisma yacht]

Imu's ass ain't reading at all

[sage temple]

People have gotten DR-ed in different ways multiple times so far

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-elmo-on-fire-flames-hands-up-gif-15788127

[rose rune]

I like reading, but some days I just can't get into it

[sage temple]

Also the fact that the HKs literally sought out Loki and not Hajrudin tells me Loki has something Hajrudin doesn't that they need

[tranquil blade]

This is true

[trim lily]

would this imply the existence of like a sea hell or underworld

[hoary steppe]

People secretly speed reading without knowing

[strong wadi]

Alright, want to do a ban bet about it? Banned from #also-manga for life if Imu can domi reversi from Marejois.

[rose rune]

Imu sitting in his chair..."I don't really feel like doing anything today"

[trim lily]

i do think whatever power/fruit imu has is connected to devil fruits in general

[prisma yacht]

Lmaoo

[tranquil blade]

"My lord you've said that for 200 years now"

[hoary steppe]

Insane bet

[rose rune]

"get off my back ethan"

[hot cairn]

lmaooo

[trim lily]

imu has really been coasting on the work of others for their entire life

i bet they don’t even know how their finances work

[spice cairn]

Bonney can reverse the Domi Reversi

Just imagine a future where they are free.

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-gif-27532263

[spice cairn]

[hot cairn]

you’ve been asking for bets

[prisma yacht]

😭

[sage temple]

I only bet on shit with Loki

I'm not wasting smth like this on Imu's random ahh

[strong wadi]

Alright, glad we cleared up your ragebait

[sage temple]

It just isn't ragebait

[fallen meteor]

from it being under the sea floor?

[sage temple]

Loki is important enough to me for me to bet on him

[trim lily]

oh wait do you mean it’s like a post apocalyptic

as in our world got flooded and it’s why imu can use yokai from our myths

[pulsar timber]

Domi reversi from mariejois?

[trim lily]

i completely missed that first line lol

[pulsar timber]

That doesn’t make sense unless you mean imu possessing doesn’t count as imu being there

[fallen meteor]

yeah

anything underwater would be fair game

and since our modern culture is there now, Imu can do it too

[trim lily]

eh i don’t think i like the idea of one piece being originally our world

i wouldn’t be surprised if it happened but it wouldn’t sit right with me

[fallen meteor]

i kinda dont too but i'm trying to make sense mythologically speaking

[pulsar timber]

I don’t think it’ll happen because the ancient tech is way beyond what we have

Im not sure why people think it’ll happen

[trim lily]

the thing is there’s still a first world

actually never mind the robot is 3000 years old not the void century

[pulsar timber]

Isn’t nika from the first world? And zunesha is too.

[trim lily]

i thought second

[sage temple]

The mountains are older than the robot

[trim lily]

since i assumed second is void century

[pulsar timber]

I think they’ll be primative

[trim lily]

i think it depends on how you interpret the stuff on the right

they really do look like apartments/factories

[fallen meteor]

ok it could just be everything ancient kingdom or before

[little arrow]

hello

[trim lily]

not the serpent in this case

[trim lily]

i’ve got no clue what the first world nika could be

i still don’t think there was a real god

[sage temple]

In what case

[pulsar timber]

I don’t either. But I think the real world thing is just people having ideas for the sake of it

[fallen meteor]

everything with that blacker color

[pulsar timber]

Oda takes inspiration from literally everything so I don’t think we are about to get the literal city of Tokyo as the ancient kingdom

[fallen meteor]

damn the black ship is right there

[pulsar timber]

The burn scar man is Davy jones

Trust

[fallen meteor]

idk man unless davy jones was a long leg

because that ship is very long leg habitated

[sage temple]

If this helps

[ashen perch]

Yea but we will have Oykot

[pulsar timber]

Oykot is such a stupid name

[sage temple]

I think Loki has a very strong connection with the First World though

[trim lily]

turn yo damn flashlight off franky

[sage temple]

Specifically the Hellfire Serpent

[trim lily]

i’m not a believer in any of the serpent or god stuff

[ashen perch]

Can't wait for Nodnol, Kroy Wen and Sirap Kingdoms from the first world

[pulsar timber]

I don’t believe there are any gods or serpents either

[ashen perch]

I think the 1st world could have them, atleast

[trim lily]

eh

i’d rather not

[sage temple]

Whatever is depicted with the arrow-type pattern on the right side then

[ashen perch]

I don't see the issue

[sage temple]

And the planet

[trim lily]

goes a step too far for me into the realm of fantasy

[ashen perch]

We're deep enough as is

[sage temple]

I think everything with that pattern is connected so far

[pulsar timber]

I don’t really have an issue I just don’t think that’s the story Oda is telling

[pulsar timber]

I think the serpent stuff is just mythology metaphors and whatever an the god stuff is people finding hope

[trim lily]

same

that also ties into the idea of devil fruits coming about cause of people’s dreams

[pulsar timber]

I think the Skypiea gods are just dress up for the setting and there’s only a sun god

[trim lily]

people wanted freedom and invented a god of joy and freedom, which then manifested into a real thing

[grand flower]

You think so huh?

[tough igloo]

i think the people/beings that the mythical zoans are based on did exist but just not as powerful as the fruits are since the DFs are just people imagination/dreams that they wished for according VP

[ashen perch]

Well here's how I see it, the Earth God and the Serpent did indeed exist

Nika however, was birthed through the hopes and dreams of people

[spice cairn]

Its a parting gift from such deities

[pulsar timber]

Yeah nikas whole concept is just a fully realized version of what Luffy has been doing for people every arc

[sage temple]

[ashen perch]

Also VP is wrong yeah

[pulsar timber]

Every arc they’re praying for him or praising

Finding hope in him

[sage temple]

I think VP can still be right about DFs while they're manufactured by sea devils

[spice cairn]

Jason thinking because he genuinely believe Buddha doesnt exist.

Insane way to start 2026

[ashen perch]

Remember when Oda created a satellite for him that looked like Yuderon and had him get shot through the fucking head in one of the most brutal deaths in the series?

[pulsar timber]

Yes

GOda

[ashen perch]

He's not a fan of theories

[tough igloo]

in one piece ? it’s possible buddha exists but i think it’s moreso that since people believed in and wished for buddha so his fruit is what it is .. it’s like VP said “ no need to question whether or not gods existed “

[ashen perch]

And VP is a theorist

[sage temple]

Also weird how there's blood

[ashen perch]

Its oil

[spice cairn]

I mean I think its plausible that the faith in Buddha culmatived into the fruit.

[sage temple]

Oh ok

[grand flower]

I was genuinely surprised by how violent shaka’s death was

[spice cairn]

But if literal Satan exists, then Buddha probably did at some point.

[tough igloo]

so you don’t think the fruits were manufactured ? by like the ancient kingdom or something ?

using the wishes of the people somehow

[ashen perch]

Yea, Oda can be really violent sometimes, I guess its cause he wasn't "real" per se

Reminds me how he depicted Orochi getting beheaded in his human form, that was similarly shocking

But because of his fruit, he could pull off something like that

[spice cairn]

I think that ultimately these fruits were born from the wishes and desires of people culmatively rather than a government psyop thing.

And these specific Hito ones are sort of the belief system growing so large it manifests a fruit that acts like the beacon

Or Zoans in Nikas case

[tough igloo]

yeah i agree with that

but like the logias is a interesting one cause why tf are people wishing for natural elements ? was the weather back then that bad ?

[trim lily]

i mean you can extend that to a lot

[spice cairn]

Maybe they wish for an abundance? Maybe they wish to cut down on such like deforestation

[trim lily]

why were people wishing for jackets and why did it manifest that way

[tough igloo]

true , i guess maybe someone could’ve wished for all DFs to not work and that created the Darkness logia ?

[pulsar timber]

I think people were wishing for anything

[ashen perch]

But yea back to the main point, I think VP is atleast half wrong. I think people's hopes and dreams did play a role but the one to bring about those wishes to fruition was the Devil himself. Shanks is closer to the truth than him

[grand flower]

People always desire power over nature

[spice cairn]

I personally like that theory a lot and personally VP imo isnt really "wrong"

But Hes closer to it than anyone else

[trim lily]

yeah i prefer the idea of wishing bringing them into reality

i honestly don’t need much of an explanation for the origin of the devil fruits

i’ll take whatever

[tough igloo]

yeah it would explain the insane variety of DFs cause people wish for insane things

[ashen perch]

Well you will get an explanation for everything

Oda quite literally promised that

[tough igloo]

I guess with Law fruit it’s “ i wish that i can do anything i want “ and poof the Ope Ope appeared lol

[trim lily]

i really want to store things in mud

[spice cairn]

Its such a nice little thing that'll pretty much reinforce the dreams and freedom theming.

[tough igloo]

“ i wish to be a jacket “

[spice cairn]

https://x.com/vampyrgaming/status/2006694293495492618?s=46&t=cPXMZvr1mzJF4W4U5oDjlA

Vampyr (@Vampyrgaming)

Bonney alt leader

X · Jan 1, 2026, 11:49 AM

This is going to be 300 dollars.

Its so over

[grand flower]

One day ima gift you a custom card

[trim lily]

i wanted the one rainbow yamato card so badly

but i think it’s like 80 bucks

(and gambling is more fun)

[sick dust]

Pokebros are ruining every card market they touch

[ruby moat]

I’m not a fan of TCG games whwre cards that are needed for a deck to play well are hundreds of dollars

Much better when there are cheap versions that do the same thing and then expensive versions that are fancier

[sick dust]

It’s just a alt art

Here is the normal version

[ruby moat]

I’m not rly sure how the op tcg works in that regard to be fair

But my one buddy has dropped like $1k on his MTG deck it’s wild

[ruby moat]

Ah that’s good that u can still use the card without dropping a ton

[dense haven]

thats dumb af

[sick dust]

The issue is how inconsistent the releases for ENG are

[dense haven]

just buy a color printers and you can have all cards

[sick dust]

And how limited Toei makes those compared to JP

[little arrow]

hello

[ruby moat]

Oh just less stock in general?

[trim lily]

[sick dust]

No wait I meant Bandai

Reflex

[ruby moat]

Yea fair I also am quick to blame Toei

[sick dust]

Leader cards overall don’t do for much unless it’s a Alt art

[dense haven]

fuck toei

[ruby moat]

I have a buddy whose been collecting winner cards from like tourneys n shit the cards the winners get

He was gonna get this cool franky one but it spiked from like $13 to $113

[sick dust]

For example you can buy OP14 Sabo’s leader card for $0.05

On TCG player right now

This is one of my favorite alt arts in game

And it’s 350 unfortunately at the lowest

[ruby moat]

Do u know how much the gege gorosei cards are by chance

I think I saw them in the deck that the zoro live action dude used

[sick dust]

The Imu deck in general is pretty dirt cheap

[brittle basin]

weird. i feel like I never saw this one even though i've perused series 9

[sick dust]

And looking at Saturn’s Gege art

It’s going for $33 on TCG player

At the lowest

Still pretty pricey

Since you need four of each

Unless you just want to go for the normal art

[spice cairn]

They arent needed

[sick dust]

After a quick glance they all average at 33

[spice cairn]

However it creates a masty market

These are simply alts so they just look better compared to a normal version of the card

[sick dust]

Some cards do make a difference.for example Promo Roger

And Promo Sabo

[spice cairn]

Yeah I know theres Promos that do different things for the fun

[sick dust]

Promo Roger fixes RP Roger so much

And yet Bandai decided to delay the ENG release by a month

After months of not having it

While JP had it for a entire format

[spice cairn]

I have no sort of experience with OPTCG. I just have a vague idea thanks to Pokemon TCG

Which functions similarly in terms of rarity and promos

[sick dust]

Yugioh also had the problem of Promo Cards being required to be able to stand a chance

While not promos these cards became esstential for yellow decks

[pulsar path]

They should just make a less rare version of it

Stupid they just want all the controversy and tbh it's been working

[sick dust]

These are the normal art

[pulsar path]

Also luffarto

[pulsar path]

I'm talking about actual rarity not card rarity class

If its a promo and hard to find that way rarer than a common super rare

[sick dust]

Rarity isn’t the problem but the pull rate is

Oh you mean promos

[pulsar path]

That's why I said class rarity cus I get the rarity isn't really the pull rate but the pull rate actually determans it's true worth and rarity

[sick dust]

They are about to give the upcoming promos for free this month I believe if you participate at a local

Sabo and Roger are definitely the most useful out the bunch

[ornate tartan]

nami CLEARS

[sick dust]

Wrong Nami card

This is the real goat

Being able to take 1 Life for free

Is top tier value

[misty plover]

rereading East Blue and I love how this panel is just meant to show the only established pirate (shanks) + the enemy of the upcoming arc, but I find it so funny how this is actually just half the fight for the one piece 😭

[ashen rose]

Apollo and the gift of return ig

Pretty cool too tbh I should probably read one piece from time to time

[misty plover]

it's been a while since I first watched it, and I wanna see how different the manga is so I'm just giving it a shot rn

[ornate tartan]

🔥

[sage temple]

Buggy and Shanks look tuff asl here

[sick dust]

Oda’s past art style is a bit of a whiplash to look back on

[little arrow]

hello

[little arrow]

hru? u can just ping me btw

[cloud adder]

gimme back old oda artstyle

[sick dust]

I miss when every woman didn’t share the same body type

With very little expectations

[hard gull]

https://tenor.com/view/phantom-of-the-opera-masquerade-gif-23464808

[cloud adder]

was that really a thing in east blue?

[sick dust]

Maybe you’re right

[dense haven]

yall wished happy birthday to oda yet

[sick dust]

The rare time I wanted to give Oda the benefit of a doubt

[cloud adder]

HAPPY BDAY ACE~~~

https://tenor.com/view/manga-animation-shounen-manga-banner-ramzo-gif-14756564851437963569

ace revival in 2026 🙏

[sick dust]

I get second thoughts

[sick dust]

But Ace isn’t dead

He’s alive

In our hearts

[cloud adder]

I need him alive in my post timeskip

(not really but i wouldnt hate oda for it)

[sick dust]

That would mean he would be defying fate

Since he was always planned to die

[cloud adder]

my dream 🤩

[cloud adder]

this reminds me, you know whats crazy

gyaban said Roger Pirates considered Shanks and Buggy their sons

but then theres that convo between Roger and Rayleigh post laughtale

where Roger says his son will find the one piece and Ray says Roger doesnt have a son

like

WHAT ABOUT YOUR TWO ADOPTED SONS??

[sick dust]

You sure he didn’t mean shanks?

[cloud adder]

roger pirates lowkey bum dads

[sick dust]

Gaban pretty much confirmed the relationship was like that

[cloud adder]

if this is the case, ray is my opp

ray is the one saying roger doesnt have any sons

[buoyant comet]

Top 10 plot holes on one piece

[cloud adder]

Loda 💔

[vital heart]

HEY GUYS

HAPPY NEW YEAR

HAPPY 2026

I HAVENT BEEN IN HERE SINCE LAST YEAR

[buoyant comet]

Happy new year

[cloud adder]

HAPPY NEW YEAR MEEK

[vital heart]

Holy shit Mimi I havent seen you in a year

How you been

[cloud adder]

😭

[celest mauve]

happy new year

[vital heart]

@cloud adder

[sick dust]

We’re talking about a guy who gambles and sells himself to slaverly so he can rob the organizers to gamble and drink all over again

[vital heart]

Holy shit @celest mauve Havent seen you in a year... How you been?

[cloud adder]

@vital heart

BEEN GOOD TY

[vital heart]

@royal orchid I have a request for you

[cloud adder]

hope 2026 has only been peak for you meek

[buoyant comet]

Gang why did you tag them when they're literally right here 😭

[vital heart]

It's my thing to tag people at the end of messages that I want them to see.

@buoyant comet

[buoyant comet]

I see 😅

[cloud adder]

plot twist, ray caught lovesick after roger died

[vital heart]

Often I just tag the 3 most recent messengers when I have a general message that I want attention for. Typically this goes for my theories, rankings, etc..

[royal orchid]

👁️

[sick dust]

Zoro is probably gonna be a bum in the future

[vital heart]

DO NOT SAY TCB IN THIS MESSAGE

I DO NOT KNOW WHO TRANSLATED THIS

[cloud adder]

😭

[vital heart]

Bc there are some clear things i would change if this was the work of one of us

[cloud adder]

rogue translator has entered the 2026 fray

[royal orchid]

TCB discord bot posted this

[buoyant comet]

There's a tcb bot?

[cloud adder]

what is this Legend & Next Mini magazine thing?

[royal orchid]

unless it's a fake bot named TCB#7499, that talks like a part of TCB and links to their website

[buoyant comet]

Is it where oda drew those imu sketches?

[royal orchid]

idk what to tell you

[buoyant comet]

Oh okay I just didn't know it existed

[vital heart]

Send me a screenshot

[vital heart]

send ss

[vital heart]

Now who the fuck wrote that

Let me send this in the TCB server

[celest mauve]

been good, 1 year is a long time fr

[vital heart]

I will find who translated that

[royal orchid]

it's in the last page

of the mini mag

[vital heart]

bro

idk who the fuck sergio is

boofywock is our new type setter

ok that makes sense

he's a new guy

[royal orchid]

ask boofy then

[vital heart]

hilgako and sergio arent TCB affiliated

yeah

i just pinged him

[sick dust]

Redon

[vital heart]

Bro

[sick dust]

If I am remembering right

[vital heart]

Redon is spanish/portugese

His english is probably ass

Respectfully

🙏

[royal orchid]

lmao it won't be redon

[royal orchid]

fuck you too

[vital heart]

☠️

[royal orchid]

calling my english ass

[vital heart]

Meeks are you portguese

portugese

spanish

one of the two

[royal orchid]

I'm brazilian I speak portuguese

[vital heart]

oh

I have a friend from Belize, he's mad chill

[royal orchid]

that's in central america

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/kthsjuui-kthsjuul-gif-23500358

[sick dust]

They heard he had knots

[cloud adder]

mihawk cutting in front of shanks #noticing

[little arrow]

hello

[opaque swallow]

Please read my theory in the manga theories page

[sick dust]

He’s so ableist

Couldn’t even let the dude be up front

[mighty shell]

"there is nothing a swordsman can't cut" ahh

[wraith mantle]

what are yall's current wallpapers

[remote maple]

I want the lego mihawk figure from the barratie lego set but it's like $300

[wraith mantle]

this is wild that these sell for 300

it probably cost them like 3 dollars to make

like legit

[remote maple]

yeah, like the going merry is like half the price and way cooler

why is the most expensive set mid

[wraith mantle]

do they have any rocks figurines

[remote maple]

not until the netflix show gets to god valley

just wait 100 years it'll happen

[wraith mantle]

damn thats creepy af

[remote maple]

wafalo is really talented

his OP art is always goated

[remote maple]

now the number actually means something

[runic dock]

Loss

[fallen meteor]

Loki on the clouds

[spice cairn]

Me when I have to tell my mom I missed the bus

[vital heart]

holy fucking shit

wait

i messed the joke up

fuck

nvm

[spice cairn]

This is my current wallpaper.

[vapid flower]

BB having no fucking idea of how to play chess

[spice cairn]

Hes ragequitting

[slow sequoia]

his opponent pulled an en passant

[spice cairn]

Bro thinks its Sorry!

[digital spear]

This is mine

Happy year of the horse

[proud pivot]

guys is it just me or does 2025 feel like yesterday?

[spice cairn]

Ive been seeing a lot of Rapidash on my TL

https://tenor.com/view/rapidash-pokemon-horse-fire-flames-gif-10137510

Canonically Shank's trusty steed

[spice cairn]

Ok now show San Juan

[trim lily]

this is definitely the size comparison of all time

[tranquil blade]

Not a single correct size 💔

[trim lily]

guzzlord for reference

[ashen rose]

The size comparison really is because of the squirrel

[spice cairn]

How big is Kingbaum

[tranquil blade]

I still think Groudon not being like sanjuan wolf size is insane, I swear there's depictions of them being that big

[spice cairn]

I forgot if that dude is bigger than Loki or not.

[trim lily]

there are

[spice cairn]

Oden is taller than Groundon

[trim lily]

groudon being like 10ft tall is a crime

[spice cairn]

The anime and games tend to really underestimate/overestimate sizes

Its the One Piece of video games

[ashen rose]

"ruler of the land" my ass, the guy should be playing basketball

[spice cairn]

The size charts in Pokemon are just as batshit insane as OPs are

[trim lily]

i bet his ass could not dunk

[tranquil blade]

I think the reason they arent bigger is so they dont take up the whole screen in battles

[ashen rose]

Something something, wailord can breed with a cat

[ashen rose]

Did you know that Lucario is 4ft

[spice cairn]

I heard somewhere is that its also to make them more kid relatable or something

But thats probably either outdated or downright bs

[tranquil blade]

Idk who to blame for this so im just gonna say Oda is a hack and it's his fault

[upper rose]

Wailord size is already messed up as is

[ashen rose]

Worse actually

[pulsar timber]

Pokemon heights and weights make no sense

[trim lily]

short representation

[ashen rose]

Truly a short gremlin

[spice cairn]

This meme will never stop being insane

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/spunchbop-spongebob-meme-spongebob-plankton-meme-plankton-gif-3201429532851062522

[spice cairn]

Bro can literally be on a leash in the OP world

[ashen rose]

Holy shit Oden is 3 meters tall?

[spice cairn]

382 centimeters to be exact

[ashen rose]

Average one piece pet

[mighty shell]

presentation.

i'm good at: presentation.

[prisma idol]

Wait they are the same height?

[spice cairn]

Oden is slightly taller

[prisma idol]

One Piece having its characters that are absolutely massive being able to move at incredible speeds when most giant characters are slow af

Also is loki Pika statue height? I forgot how tall that statue was

No he is probably nowhere near close nvm

😭

[hazy echo]

broooooooooooo

I was digging through some pics and found this

Oh wow literally the beginning of Wano these are ancient

[spice cairn]

Cute

[hazy echo]

wow this takes me back

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/view/essica-monthly-squirrel-2nd-gif-16850612021043190166

[spice cairn]

THATS NUTS

[gilded juniper]

hi good day. does anyone know which chapter the kizaru agenda meme comes from

and which episode its animated. trying to find the full context

thanks

[fallen meteor]

can you show the meme

low key have no idea what you are talking about

[gilded juniper]

one second

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/048/455/Agenda_Piece_cover.jpg

[fallen meteor]

good fucking question lmao

i totally forgot whats the original panel

[gilded juniper]

ahaha thank you anyways tho

[fallen meteor]

one piece ch 1091

i think episode 1125

such a downgrade on the anime

of that panel..

[cosmic hamlet]

I don't understand some people, why post AI art and then say "sorry for the AI"?

[trim lily]

they think that clears them of any guilt or responsibility

[cosmic hamlet]

And then the worst kind is people defending AI art

[proud pivot]

I love everything about AI

Even the art

[alpine trench]

that tracks

[proud pivot]

How??

[alpine trench]

people devoid of thoughts love gen AI and "AI art"

[cosmic hamlet]

[indigo yacht]

I still think this is Yamato

Or rather her okami fruit

[proud pivot]

Then why don't you love it?

[cosmic hamlet]

Why? Yamato doesn't use sword

[alpine trench]

i have thoughts

i'm not a robot

[proud pivot]

You don't

[alpine trench]

you are

[proud pivot]

You are

[alpine trench]

you are a robotic being

[proud pivot]

You are a cyborg but the ai part has taken over

[cosmic hamlet]

Why is arisu giving robotic responses

[alpine trench]

see now you're repeating what i'm saying

like a robot

without any semblance of creativity in thought

that's what AI does

[fallen meteor]

Airisu

[alpine trench]

i win

[indigo yacht]

The mural isn’t 1:1. that Loki lookalike has a spear, and Joyboy/nika has a sword and shield

[proud pivot]

What a waste of time

[random hinge]

huh

[fallen meteor]

i just think it isnt a future thing

thats the past combat

they had a lokilike with a spear there

[indigo yacht]

It’s a past combat yes but the same players

[alpine trench]

obviously thinking of a few sentences in english without repeating what others are saying or thinking is a waste of time to you

[cosmic hamlet]

Fair enough, then what characteristics of that figure resembles yamato or df that yamato has?

[fallen meteor]

idk about the smae players tho

[indigo yacht]

And that’s just whoever had the devil fruit Yamato has

[proud pivot]

You're so right dude

[fallen meteor]

like does luffy know any longleg/longarm tribes/crews?

[alpine trench]

i know

[indigo yacht]

The devil fruit. That fruit is important to Wano

[fallen meteor]

or will he meet them later on

[alpine trench]

he knows apoo

[fallen meteor]

blue gilly is a longleg i think too

[alpine trench]

yes

[fallen meteor]

but the mural shows a whole boat of them

both

[alpine trench]

ideo is a longarm

[indigo yacht]

It’s just similar looking. Fluffy tail, dog

[cosmic hamlet]

Hmm, i just checked. The tail resembles

[indigo yacht]

Ideo is long arm

[rose rune]

hmmm... I think maybe the mural was just a child's drawing after all

[fallen meteor]

can u post the full mural

[indigo yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/ideo-ideo-one-piece-one-piece-long-arms-dressrosa-gif-12850889113399926755

[cosmic hamlet]

Which tribe is the island brook was sent to during timeskip?

[fallen meteor]

i think it represents the alliance at that time
like it signifies that a lot of people grouped together under joyboy
luffy probably will have something similar but its not a 1:1 of the dfs, groups, etc that will appear

[indigo yacht]

I don’t think it’s literal Yamato just whoever had their fruit in the past

[fallen meteor]

i'm always curious about who this one is supposed to be

[cosmic hamlet]

A child who has seen the war unfold in front of his/her eyes drew it

[rose rune]

it's probably not important in any way. children you know, they just be drawing stuff

silly little creatures

[fallen meteor]

the man marked by flames' ship?

[fallen meteor]

but everyone else is kinda interpretable

[sage temple]

Why are the flags not black

[cosmic hamlet]

Is poneglyph language just random symbols or does it really have a meaning resembling a language of real world?

[sage temple]

This isn't what the MMBF looked like

[fallen meteor]

like those are uhhh Alabasta and Wano? i guess

[sage temple]

None of those ships are the MMBF's

[fallen meteor]

idk ask oda

curious dude too

[sage temple]

I asked him about this earlier today actually

[cosmic hamlet]

How about we just call mmbf as Mark?

[sage temple]

Lol

I might start doing that

[fallen meteor]

a mink?

[cosmic hamlet]

Shanks

[fallen meteor]

wonder if those are meant to represent some group we know
considering the whale tree maybe those are the minks lol

[cosmic hamlet]

Can shirahoshi control whales?

[sage temple]

Ragnir

Loki fights alongside Ragnir like a pokemon master with it's pokemon

[fallen meteor]

ohh yeah this could be someone controlling a sea king and the kids just fucked the aquatic representation

[cosmic hamlet]

[fallen meteor]

my dumbass just noticed those are breath fighting

nature v tech type deal maybe

the dragon dude coming down from the tree, the snake with buildings on their back

[sage temple]

I wonder how Oda connects Loki to the serpent here

[fallen meteor]

this is such a cool spread

[sage temple]

Definitely

[vital heart]

@royal orchid Jules = boofy btw, it wasnt posted by TCB

[vital heart]

hi harsh

hows your 2026 treatin you

[alpine trench]

good

[vital heart]

One Piece FILM: SWORD.

Long ago, on a distant island, during the era of Noland the explorer, there was a great and evil pirate crew. This crew was beyond the strength of the Rocks pirates and greater than the Roger pirates, uncovering vast amounts of treasure and looking into the great taboos. Their story ended 400 years ago when they were caught in a typhoon that wrecked their ship and drowned the crew. 400 years later, a wicked witch with an evil devil fruit manages to revive the crew. The ancient pirate crew from Noland's time is coming back for revenge and wants to take on this new era. Who will b able to stop them?! Koby, spearheading SWORD and Luffy, the emperor, will make an unlikely alliance to take down this crew from ancient times.

[vital heart]

thoughts?

I sent this to Morj for his monthly podcasts, asking for his opinion @alpine trench

[sage temple]

What platform is that

[vital heart]

Patreon

[urban sluice]

you donate to him??

aint no way

[dense haven]

hes putting morjs kids thru college

[sage temple]

[indigo yacht]

Me

[prisma yacht]

😭😭

[vital heart]

$10 / month

Not counting stream donos too

[cosmic hamlet]

Do you think the ancient technology comes from nature?

[indigo yacht]

Oh wow

[cosmic hamlet]

Then where did they get this from

[sage temple]

Looks like a Noita wand prolly Mihawk though

[sage temple]

How long have you been a sub?

[cosmic hamlet]

😭

[cosmic hamlet]

More?

[formal wagon]

.

[vital heart]

Wdym?

[vital heart]

Yep

[vital heart]

October 2023.

[cosmic hamlet]

Where did you get that picture thanking and asking for translators and redrawers

[vital heart]

It's in the pinned link bro

Final page

Speedreader..

[cosmic hamlet]

I didn't even read that mini magazine lol

[cosmic hamlet]

Why does it say tcb released it then 😭 also mentioned in tcb server i think

[vital heart]

Yeah its cap

@royal orchid Change it rn

[cosmic hamlet]

I think what he meant was it is posted in tcb server

Not necessarily tcb made it

[sage temple]

Dang

Imagine how much Robux that is dawg

[native seal]

Ragnir for nakama

[vital heart]

{(# of months between October 2023 and January 2026) * $ 10 } - $20 (I unsubbed briefly during his beef against saul being alive) = total $ spent through patreon

[cosmic hamlet]

No thanks, we already have chopper

And zeus too

[native seal]

if nami can have a weapon companion so can usopp

also ragnir clears both of those bums

[fluid cedar]

Nami got a soul companion

[cosmic hamlet]

I don't mind throwing away zeus, its not like they are showing zeus that often. We are already not getting enough screen time for existing strawhats. Don't add more

[high wolf]

Loki joining the crew trust!

[native seal]

if it's usopp's weapon then his screentime = ragnir's screentime

[cosmic hamlet]

Its not like zeus is shown everytime nami is shown

[native seal]

and who's upset about not seeing Zeus bruh

[fluid cedar]

Us all

[cosmic hamlet]

I'm giving a comparison, just because usopp got ragnir we won't see ragnir everytime usopp is shown

[native seal]

not seeing ragnir is less of a problem than not seeing usopp

similar to how not seeing zeus is less of a problem than not seeing nami

[cosmic hamlet]

Usopp didn't do anything to deserve ragnir. We don't give partipation prizes.

Loki also didn't do anything wrong to lose ragnir

Stop seperating them just to support your fav character

[prisma yacht]

Usopp will feed ragnir tasty beans

I don't wanna hear he did nothing

[high wolf]

We won't know that until the arc ends 💔

[sage temple]

If it's that important for Ussop to wield a hammer he can use Stansen's

[prisma yacht]

😭

[cosmic hamlet]

I know, I'm not saying I'm right and that will happen. I'm saying he doesn't deserve it as of yet

[sage temple]

Ussop wielding Ragnir isn't likely at all rn I don't get why people act like it's definite

[formal wagon]

nah i'd magnet

[sage temple]

You wanna bet?

[native seal]

He hasn't done anything yet*

[high wolf]

Yeah true

[fallen meteor]

no the dragon is the nature one the snake is the tech

[prisma yacht]

bet that usopp wields stransens hammer ? Fs yeah

[high wolf]

I think ussop's gonna unlock acoc

[prisma yacht]

Let's do it

[cosmic hamlet]

Yeah and i will go by current than assuming he will do something

[sage temple]

That Ussop wields Ragnir

How come you're scared of that

[prisma yacht]

no Im down for that too

Let's have another one for stansen as well

[dense haven]

socretes im surprised you of all people would go with that agenda

[cosmic hamlet]

Which tech do you think that is? Ancient technology which joyboy and his allies used to use?

[native seal]

oh brother usopp wielding ragnir would be 100 times more entertaining than loki farming aura with it

it's a fun thought

[high wolf]

Not really because I like loki more 💔

[dense haven]

usopp getting ragnir is an insane loki downscale

[formal wagon]

isn't usopp weilding ragnir a loki downscale>

[native seal]

there you go

[sage temple]

I'm not saying Ussop will wield Stansen's hammer I'm saying Ussop can wield hammers other than Ragnir if it's that important. Stansen's hammer is the only other one we've seen this arc

[fallen meteor]

no idea lol i'm saying tech just for the buildings that look like skyscrapers and the steam

[formal wagon]

i snailed

[sage temple]

Okay?

[cosmic hamlet]

Its okay to have a fun thought. But I don't think its wise to seperate loki and ragnir who has been together for 14 years

[dense haven]

snailbox

[sage temple]

I could say One Piece would be 100 times more entertaining to me if Loki becomes the main character forever starting next chapter

That doesn't mean it'll happen though

[formal wagon]

[native seal]

did I say it'll happen

bro

[formal wagon]

it = vira

[fallen meteor]

good name

[native seal]

I literally followed it up saying it's a fun thought

[prisma yacht]

you don't make it sound in such a way tho
"If usopp is wielding any hammer it wld be stansens"

[cosmic hamlet]

Yeah I'm just trying to think what the tech represents and what the dragon represents

[formal wagon]

yeah this is my january bit

[fallen meteor]

vira means turn in portuguese so it signifies the turning of a new era

[sage temple]

Oh ok I'm misreading who actually said it

It was Fronsen not you

[formal wagon]

HOLY GODA

[sage temple]

Any like, giant war hammer like you're trying to make it sound like

[formal wagon]

THE REAL DAWN OF ROMANCE HAPPENS IN THAT SUNNY TOWN

[sage temple]

If Ussop has to wield one of those giant hammers he can make one himself again or he can use Stansen's

There's no reason for him to wield Ragnir over those other options

Also it's kind of annoying when people are so inclined to take stuff from Loki lmao his fruit, his hammer, his importance, etc.

[formal wagon]

classicism will fall underneath the boot of dreams and romance. In the end the biggest dreamers will clash underneath a new sun, for the right to sit at the top of the new world

[prisma yacht]

If you're so sure about it then let's bet on it

[formal wagon]

whats the opposite of mpreg

[dense haven]

socrastes are a big usopp fan

[formal wagon]

wpreg?

[native seal]

I've only seen people wanting to take ragnir away from loki and that's because it'll be a great moment to see ragnir deem usopp worthy

[sage temple]

Ok whats the time perioid

[dense haven]

female infertility?

[formal wagon]

MM flip it around Wicked Witch

[native seal]

and a great character development

[sage temple]

This arc? or the whole series

[formal wagon]

bummer

[sage temple]

Imma do this arc

[prisma yacht]

End of arc

[prisma yacht]

Sure

[cosmic hamlet]

I already have a bet with arsal regarding usopp weilding ragnir or not. You can use same terms if you want

[formal wagon]

SOON

soon chat

[native seal]

yo mailbox have you lost the plot

[sage temple]

Can I see it

[formal wagon]

eustass is slicing loki in half with ts

[prisma yacht]

We are doing if usopp wields stansens hammer as well

[formal wagon]

how

[cosmic hamlet]

Lol, you could have done the same as me and arsal

[formal wagon]

you sound insane rn

[sage temple]

No we aren't

I said

"If Ussop has to wield one of those giant hammers he can make one himself again or he can use Stansen's
There's no reason for him to wield Ragnir over those other options"

[formal wagon]

how do i stop being sideways i want to be upside down

[fallen meteor]

2027

[prisma yacht]

You literally said you believe usopp has more chances of wielding stansen then ragnir

[cosmic hamlet]

Who is stansen?

[prisma yacht]

Hajrudins crewmate

[cosmic hamlet]

Oh that shorty giant

[sage temple]

Yeah I do

[formal wagon]

bro eustass could cut elbaph IN HALF with this. why'd he use the stupid rail gun on shanks when he coulda hit him with a big sword

[sage temple]

That isn't my theory though

[prisma yacht]

I mean we are still making up the terms

[formal wagon]

and why didn't he use chekhov's giant sword on wano?

[sage temple]

I don't think Ussop will wield a hammer at all this arc

[dense haven]

@sage temple is usopp your fav strawhat

[sage temple]

sure

[native seal]

how tf did shanks stop loki

[cosmic hamlet]

Okay

[cosmic hamlet]

Sea prison stone

[formal wagon]

blackbeard must have helped. to get revenge for rocks

thats the only explanation

[prisma yacht]

So do one with
if usopp gets to wield any hammer it is going to be stansen's

[dense haven]

shanks is simply him

[formal wagon]

blackbeards the only one that could really beat loki

[sage temple]

If Ussop has to wield one of those giant hammers he can make one himself again or he can use Stansen's
There's no reason for him to wield Ragnir over those other options

[high wolf]

W, that's why loki calls him a rat (coward).

[fallen meteor]

poison, curses, hostages, a trail of candy floating at sea all at the same time

[native seal]

ill go with talk no jutsu

[fallen meteor]

shanks projected Ida saying 'son im alive' straight into his brain with haki

[formal wagon]

guys can you tell what this pfp is

[cosmic hamlet]

He gathered holy knights

[formal wagon]

dammit

[fallen meteor]

the elbaf sword

[prisma yacht]

Yes go ahead and make the terms with this

[fallen meteor]

bro what happened

[cosmic hamlet]

Some swords are way too big to make sense, the elbaf one and onigashima one

[fallen meteor]

@vital heart are you ok

[cosmic hamlet]

Click on it

[fallen meteor]

its about a horse named happy meek that won a race (they named the horse after an umamusume fictional horse)

[native seal]

isn't there a rate limit for pfps

[fallen meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/meek-umamusume-clap-happymeek-gif-10523251992028472805

this one

[cosmic hamlet]

What rate limit? Like number of times you can change? No limit

[sage temple]

PUNISHMENT: 2 Month Ban, 1 Month Username & Profile change after the ban

If Ussop does wield Ragnir this arc I get punished
If Ussop doesn't wield Ragnir this arc you get punished

[high wolf]

Rat*

[prisma yacht]

no wtf no ban

[native seal]

public execution type punishments over a bet is insane

[cosmic hamlet]

Bro, don't do bans

[prisma yacht]

we stay here

[cosmic hamlet]

What do you get by kicking out a member

[cosmic hamlet]

Maybe ban him from spoiler channel

[prisma yacht]

no pls

let's just be limited to mutes and nicknames

[cosmic hamlet]

Yeah mute from spoiler channel for 10 chapters

[prisma yacht]

10 chapters?????

ok bet

[sage temple]

PUNISHMENT:
3 Month Username & Profile change priveleges
2 Month Ban from #also-manga and BOTH spoiler channels

If Ussop does wield Ragnir this arc I get punished
If Ussop doesn't wield Ragnir this arc you get punished

[cosmic hamlet]

Bro is banning him from channels which he is active in

I like it

[prisma yacht]

Ok yeah now that I think of it

These conditions wld cover up the strusens bet aswell

[cosmic hamlet]

I don't understand the username and pfp change privileges

Its just winner giving loser nickname and pfp to use right?

[prisma yacht]

choose one channel ffs

[prisma yacht]

Yeah

[sage temple]

There is no Stansen bet. I'm arguing if Ussop wields Ragnir or not

And I'm saying he doesn't wield Ragnir

[formal wagon]

there we go

[cosmic hamlet]

What if he tries to lift and couldn't. That would come under weilding or not?

[formal wagon]

peace on elbaf ❤️

everyone should stop fighting, if imu explained why he did what he did i think everyone could make up ❤️

imu is just misunderstood

[prisma yacht]

You were pretty stuck with him using stansens hammer anyways
this will get covered up in the same bet
Cause if usopp doesn't wield ragnir I get the punishment (say he wields stansens or makes one which won't happen but just bcs you're saying it let's consider it)

If usopp wields ragnir you lose
(he doesn't take up stansens stupid hammer and also that he wields the fucking ragnir)

So it covers up

Aight choose one channel

also not username it's just the nickname

[dense haven]

I thought socrates was a usopp believer

[prisma yacht]

deep down everyone is spice. Every one.

[formal wagon]

im not spice

im mailbox

[prisma yacht]

[sage temple]

Its because you're acting like he MUST use a giant hammer this arc

[prisma yacht]

Yeah whatever

Change the terms

[sage temple]

And I'm saying even if he uses one, he can make one himself or use Stansen's

[prisma yacht]

of punishment

Also what was our previous bet

about shanks being stronger than loki right

[sage temple]

I'll choose also manga and spoilers-2

[prisma yacht]

1 channel

let's do spoilers 2

[cosmic hamlet]

No no, both spoiler channels please. Ban him from spoiler channels

[prisma yacht]

shutup cyg

[cosmic hamlet]

Its not username, its nickname. Nobody changes username lol

[sage temple]

PUNISHMENT:
4 Month Nickname & Profile change priveleges
2 Month Ban from #also-manga

If Ussop does wield Ragnir this arc I get punished
If Ussop doesn't wield Ragnir this arc you get punished

[prisma yacht]

PUNISHMENT:
2 Month nickname & Profile change priveleges
2 Month mute from #also-manga

If Ussop does wield Ragnir this arc I get punished
If Ussop doesn't wield Ragnir this arc you get punished

@sage temple

[formal wagon]

so its also manga only?

[prisma yacht]

yeahh

[cosmic hamlet]

Ban means channel will be hidden
Mute means channel will be shown but cannot type

So choose accordingly

[prisma yacht]

Mute

[formal wagon]

should ban the spoiler channels too

should make it one of the 4 channels

IMO

[cosmic hamlet]

Thats what I'm saying, there is no consequence if you are not banned in both

[fallen meteor]

whoever loses will need to delete #spoiler-news #spoilers and #spoilers-2 for the entire server

[prisma yacht]

🧍

[sage temple]

PUNISHMENT:
10 Week Nickname & Profile change priveleges
2 Month mute from ⁠also-manga

If Ussop does wield Ragnir this arc I (Socrates) get punished
If Ussop doesn't wield Ragnir this arc you (Fr0nSen) get punished

I'll agree to this

[prisma yacht]

Ok let's do this

[sage temple]

And you messed up the "I" and "You" in your message so I can't agree to it anyway

[sage temple]

Ok deal

[cosmic hamlet]

Finally

[prisma yacht]

Oh yeah I copypasted ur msg mb

[dense haven]

what could as yield in this case? if usopp uses it to hammer a nail does it count?

[cosmic hamlet]

Yeah he is 13, he needs to learn more english

[dense haven]

or does he need to hit an enemy specifically

[prisma yacht]

😭

If usopp does anything with ragnir it counts

Uses it as a slingshot

or whatever

[dense haven]

insane low bar

[sage temple]

No? Wield means pick up

[cosmic hamlet]

I asked similar doubt

[dense haven]

see this is why its good to clarify rules before betting

[sage temple]

Oh brother

[prisma yacht]

Look

[dense haven]

yall would be arguing this after the fact

[prisma yacht]

I can do that if you take up the exception for him using it as a slingshot

[cosmic hamlet]

otherwise they will just come up with excuses and say they didn't lose later

[shadow robin]

No leaks this week?

[prisma yacht]

Next hopefully

[grand rain]

we got this weeks chaptr already

[sage temple]

PUNISHMENT:
10 Week Nickname & Profile change priveleges
2 Month mute from ⁠also-manga

If Ussop does wield Ragnir this arc I (Socrates) get punished
If Ussop doesn't wield Ragnir this arc you (Fr0nSen) get punished

Wield means pick up. If he can't pick up Ragnir then he can't wield it.

[grand rain]

it was a break week due to wsj and we got it early

[prisma yacht]

^

[cosmic hamlet]

@dense haven and @cosmic hamlet will be the judges on whether he weilded or not

[high wolf]

God dang you guys haven't decided yet?

[prisma yacht]

both of you hate usopp

[sage temple]

If he picks it up when he uses it as a slingshot, sure. But if he doesn't pick it up, he can't wield it.

[fallen meteor]

what if he goes 'ragnir attack that dude' and the squirrel jumps on the direction and turns into a hammer mid flight

[sage temple]

No

[formal wagon]

what if they fuse

is that wielding?

[sage temple]

Let's void the bet until we agree on what "wield" means

[fallen meteor]

what if ragnir picks up usopp

[dense haven]

if ragnir moves by himself and usopp puts zero effort does it count as "picking up"

[fallen meteor]

[cosmic hamlet]

What if both usopp and loki together lift it?

[sage temple]

I'm not having another Bartsky situation

[high wolf]

Ussop unlocking ACOC and getting harald's sword trust

[prisma yacht]

Ragnir can literally just jump on the slingshot and usopp wld provide trajectory to hit the targets or whatever

[fallen meteor]

usopp holds the handle and ragnir flies away and hits someone while usopp is holding it
nightmare scenario?

[formal wagon]

all my bets are so far from thier conclusions

[dense haven]

smh I should be a lawyer

[high wolf]

Same lmao

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/view/hate-crime-love-crime-hate-crime-saul-gif-25746020

[sage temple]

Ragnir could do that with anyone though that doesn't mean whoever it does it for is wielding it

[cosmic hamlet]

The fact that ragnir can act on its own can create a lot of doubts to this bet

[sage temple]

Ussop Wielding Ragnir means he actually picks it up, if he gets help from someone to pick it up, sure but he has to pick it up

[prisma yacht]

Oh my fucking god bro who's better than usopp in providing perfect trajectories from afar distances

[fallen meteor]

what is ragnir turns into a squirrel and usopp picks the squirrel up for non-attacking purposes

[cosmic hamlet]

So loki and usopp together lifting is okay?

[formal wagon]

what if usopp eats a devil fruit that lets him pick it up with his new powers

does that count?

what if he fuses with the fruit

or the hammer i mean

[prisma yacht]

That squirrel is prolly as big as whitebeard

[cosmic hamlet]

[sage temple]

Yeah as long as Ussop is touching it

[fallen meteor]

yeah that counts

[formal wagon]

but the powers are like not his hands

hes not holding it

he's using like brain waves to lift it

[dense haven]

so just change it to usopp "touching it" instead if "picking up"

[sage temple]

Lets void the bet until we agree on what "wield" means I'm not going to have either of us complain about ts

[fallen meteor]

oh like usopp eats the telekinesis fruit and floats it up

i see

[formal wagon]

yes yes

[cosmic hamlet]

It can probably decrease in size as per wielder

[dense haven]

if usopp touches ragnir its done

[prisma yacht]

Oh yeah I can do this

[dense haven]

the bar couldn't get any lower

[prisma yacht]

After all he needs to pull ragnir to use it as a slingshot

[formal wagon]

what if usopp weild's chekov's second giant sword instead @sage temple @prisma yacht

[cosmic hamlet]

What if he touches it but got electrucated by lightning

[fallen meteor]

if loki attacks usopp with ragnir and usopp holds his hand out to defend himself

[formal wagon]

What if usopp wields it but dies

[prisma yacht]

then Socrates leaves the server

[dense haven]

if usopp thinks about ragnir forsen wins

[cosmic hamlet]

What if loki lifts ragnir and usopp lifts loki

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/back-from-break-garn47-garn-car-cat-gif-3096266773314934529

[sage temple]

Okay so wield means if Ussop wields a hammer like you normally wield a hammer

[sage temple]

What does Wield mean here

[formal wagon]

@sage temple @prisma yacht what if he wields it like this

This is a real possibility

[cosmic hamlet]

I agree

[sage temple]

That would count honestly I'll give Fronsen that

[fallen meteor]

without making jokes i feel he would use it like
shooting the squirrel as ammo and it shapes into a hammer

[prisma yacht]

Use the hammer to attack an enemy doesn't matter in what way

[cosmic hamlet]

Usopp is sleeping on top of ragnir and loki lifts the ragnir

[sage temple]

To pick it up not just that

If Ragnir can move itself then is he really using it?

[formal wagon]

What if he wields the hammer in like a fucked up emotional manipulation way? like he uses the hammer in a different sense

[prisma yacht]

You said you're okay if usopp touches it

[fallen meteor]

what if ragnir climbs inside one of those siege cannons we saw on the tree and usopp aims the cannon and shoots him
fuck thats actually so fucked

[sage temple]

context

[prisma yacht]

If usopp provides trajectory to it then yes

[fallen meteor]

its also so cool too

[formal wagon]

What if he wields the hammer in like a fucked up emotional manipulation way? like he uses the hammer in a different sense

[prisma yacht]

[sage temple]

Yeah but if it changes course or tracks them then no

[fallen meteor]

we ban usopp since thats not a cool thing to do

[formal wagon]

WHAT IF HE LEARNS HOW TO CONTROL SQIURREL

lmk

[sage temple]

Can we update "wield" for something else

[formal wagon]

handle

manhandle

[fallen meteor]

can it be uses