also-manga

[golden valley]

Female G5 Luffy

Wait

Thats bonney

[scenic dirge]

Female Shanks looking like Bonney has me really scared about Shamrock being her dad...

[spice cairn]

That was a bad time

[scenic dirge]

Icr if the timeline makes sense for that or not tho

[spice cairn]

It doesn't as far as I know

[scenic dirge]

phew

[tranquil blade]

Dont put that idea in my head because it means Shamrock is irredeemable

[ruby moat]

wasnt it the other way around, male bonney looks like shanks

[scenic dirge]

yea

that

[sturdy steeple]

How big that dude even was
Was he at least half of the size Pica was

[sturdy steeple]

He looks really big

[tranquil blade]

wowie

[ruby moat]

i personally hope bonney's father never gets revealed bc i think its better that way

[spice cairn]

For our sanity

This is something I dont want to know

[ashen perch]

it would be Garling, I dont think Oda would do that with Shamrock when the setup's now there for redemption

[spice cairn]

It was already bad enough when the backstory was dropping

[graceful belfry]

Garling makes a lot of sense

[ruby moat]

its not something we need to know, altho i kinda wish oda would be like "its some random cd" bc ppl love to theorize about it which is so weird to me

[spice cairn]

That was probably the worst time to be a weekly reader

[scenic dirge]

Shamrock redemption 🤢

[royal orchid]

@digital spear @digital spear @digital spear @digital spear @digital spear wake up

[scenic dirge]

His sole purpose is being evil Shanks

[scenic dirge]

he better do his job correctly

[tranquil blade]

Initially his purpose is to evil Shanks yes

[sturdy steeple]

Damn

[ashen perch]

he will be evil Shanks, but brainwashed

[ruby moat]

ive been seeing a lot of ppl suggesting this whole "shamrock will be good" idea but is there anything rly suggesting it?

[spice cairn]

I mean this isnt super unheard of considering he casually throws stuff like Hanafuda and Tritoma out there

So that might be the case

[graceful belfry]

Mostly his apathy

[royal orchid]

evil shanks

[sturdy steeple]

Why would Shamrock be brainwashed lol

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-spiderman-spiderverse-across-the-spider-verse-chai-tea-gif-14428002463126744265

[ruby moat]

Yea but like.. that's theorizing someone's parents.. the bonney one is theorizing who SA'ed ginny.. it's just weird to me

[sturdy steeple]

He was born there

[tranquil blade]

👀

[scenic dirge]

You can't really use the brainwashed argument because then where does that end? If Shamrock is "brainwashed" then so is Garling because "that's all they know"

[ruby moat]

oh is ee what u mean i misread

[sturdy steeple]

It’s not like Gunko or Harald

[spice cairn]

Oh no for sure that was rough to be a weekly reader for.

[hazy echo]

He literally did though but people toke the statement as Saturn being the dad

[spice cairn]

Like idt I was here when it was talked about but man

[ashen perch]

the brainwash aspect of Imu's covenants have really opened the door for it

[spice cairn]

It brought the worst out of the community

[sturdy steeple]

Ok, pause

[hazy echo]

I forgot if it was TCB that made people thought that or not

[ashen perch]

Shanks seemed aware of how it worked, is he speaking from experience?

[sturdy steeple]

Arsal, Shamrock was BORN there as a celestial dragon.

[scenic dirge]

Bro if all CDs are just under Imu brainwash then OP might be doomed lol

[spice cairn]

Dude

This would ruin the story

[sturdy steeple]

That would just mean every other CD is also brainwashed and innocent. What are we talking about

[ruby moat]

Saturn does say it in a way that makes it seem random u r right. I suppose its just a fandom thing then

[ashen perch]

yes, that didnt make Corazon a monster

[hazy echo]

Oh hey Evan

[scenic dirge]

yo shreed! how are you

[tranquil blade]

Well he sas they couldnt disobey orders while in the holy land, so Shanks may know to some degree about it

[hazy echo]

I'm doing good just making vids hbu

[tranquil blade]

Even the shallow covenant has some brainwashing aspect but just with a limited range

[scenic dirge]

bit busy irl but nothing too crazy

hope you had a nice holiday season

[hazy echo]

Yea this is the same community that theorizes random pixels

[ashen perch]

you guys are jumping like a billion miles ahead of what I am saying

[sturdy steeple]

Because Corazon had good compassionate people (his parents)

[hazy echo]

Likewise!

[knotty pilot]

hope u had too

[tranquil blade]

I mean Mjosgard was kinda redeemed to a degree and he didnt even have good parents

[ashen perch]

relax a second, I think Harald is not going to be the only one who had his mind overridden by Imu, that much should be obvious.

[ruby moat]

I could see Oda expanding on the whole like indoctrination that CD's go thru and shit like that, I think there's been some hinting towards some CD's having the capability to be good people with Mjosgard, but I don't think he will completely redeem them or anything. Maybe make it a bit more understandable how they turned out the way they did, but I don't think he'll clear them of their crimes or anything like that.

[sturdy steeple]

You have Gunko

[dense haven]

new years resolution: i will be hating on usopp in 2026

[ashen perch]

I think Gunko is gonna be one victim of this, and Shamrock will be the other.

that is it.

2 people.

[knotty pilot]

nah

[hazy echo]

Yall we had Doffy that was born evil

[blazing depot]

Clearly he’s talking about artificial imsemination

[hazy echo]

what

[scenic dirge]

i think having some proper reflection and realizations on their own accord is very different to their wickedness entirely deriving from Imu's influence

I'm fine with the former

[blazing depot]

Yeh that’s a chemical experiment

[ruby moat]

yea absolutely

[blazing depot]

Bonney is a test tube baby

[urban lodge]

I think most of them just have no need to be brainwashed because they were raised to be that way, it's only necessary when they're outsiders or disobedient

[hazy echo]

https://tenor.com/rpFAM3ltJT7.gif

[sturdy steeple]

CDs don’t need overridden minds. They’re already all awful people.
Even Imu gave Harald a chance before ultimately afflicting a mind switch.

[ruby moat]

I dont think there's any brainwashing amongst them, atleast not in the literal way. Mjosgard was shown to be good and he didnt get brainwashed out of it, the mf got executed

[scenic dirge]

yea

Mjosgard is kind of the perfect counter to this

[blazing depot]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-chess-win-gif-17584376170894933930

[ashen perch]

In general yea, Imu has clearly setup a system of indoctrination for the Celestials and they will have to be broken free from that via re-education. But magical brainwashing - thats gonna be a thing for a few characters too.

[sturdy steeple]

For outsiders perhaps

But there shouldn’t be a lot of those

[blazing depot]

Celestial Dragon trials gonna be crazy

[hazy echo]

There is the contrast between Corazon and Doffy as well

[ashen perch]

it doesnt have to be limited to outsiders

[sturdy steeple]

If anything there should be none

[blazing depot]

They still enslave people out of free will remember

[scenic dirge]

yep yep

[urban lodge]

Shamrock being brainwashed would be weird tho

He was raised as a cd

[hazy echo]

Like both of them had nothing to do with being on Mariejoa for the most part and look at how they turned out

[ashen perch]

it doesnt always work, like I said, it didnt matter for Corazon

[urban lodge]

Cora left relatively early

[blazing depot]

Shanks and Shamrock are an exploration of nurture

[tranquil blade]

Even if you ignore the whole depths covenant thing if Mjosgard can change how he thinks I dont see why Shamrock couldnt

[blazing depot]

Like they’re identical twins but were raised vastly differently

[hazy echo]

So did Doffy and look at him

[tranquil blade]

but I suppose he could stay evil I guess

[ashen perch]

but he was never interested in that stuff, Doflamingo was.

[scenic dirge]

Oda's not gonna strip away character agency on such a scale simply to direct all blame onto a single person

[ruby moat]

i personally dont see shamrock being a good guy but i am open to being surprised

[muted hedge]

happy new year

[ashen perch]

happy new year!

[scenic dirge]

happy new year

[sturdy steeple]

But why would Shamrock be brainwashed

[blazing depot]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-happy-new-year-celebrate-balloons-gif-17514670

[ruby moat]

happy new year

[sturdy steeple]

It’s like you just want that to happen to random characters without any solid reason

[hazy echo]

It's 6PM for me here

[tranquil blade]

6 more hours for me

[sturdy steeple]

Happy new year

[spice cairn]

6 more hours for me

[ashen perch]

I mean, even if theres no magic here, he definitely is brainwashed lol

[blazing depot]

Everybody European

[trim lily]

est gang

[somber flare]

The euros are already in 2026

[golden valley]

Sham is turning good

Accept it

Accept itr

[scenic dirge]

if you want Shamrock to have some sort of "redemption" or change of heart, it can happen naturally somehow without just being freed from Imu mind control

[knotty pilot]

happy new year

[hazy echo]

East Coast Best Coast

[sturdy steeple]

All CDs are brainwashed, dude

[tranquil blade]

I dont think the covenant thing is needed for Shamrock to become less evil later on

Though idk, it really depends, I'm sure he's not a good guy right now

[ruby moat]

shamrock will get his tattoo bit off by a sea beast after shanks shows him how

[sturdy steeple]

He does seem to like his brother but that’s about it

[scenic dirge]

Sure, I do think Garling is gonna ultimately act as the lightning rod of evil for the Figarland plotline, but I don't necessarily think that has to mean Shamrock has a full change of heart. He may just be a bit more conflicted at the end

[blazing depot]

Your honor Imu made him do it

[sturdy steeple]

You can say he’s not the most evil out of them but that’s not much.
He was amused by the idea of setting Elbaf into chaos and kidnapping kids. Or worse.

[golden valley]

Well Loki still has to beat shamrock

[urban lodge]

His brother is also a CD so that doesn't mean much anyway, though I guess he does show some flexibility there with Shanks having lived most of his life prior to that in the lower world

[ashen perch]

yeah this isnt in doubt, but he has the HK covenant now. I am just taking what Shanks said in consideration here, it felt like he was speaking from personal experience

[tranquil blade]

Reminder this guy is named Roswald Roswald

[golden valley]

So if you think he’s turning good before he gets defeated by loki

Its not happening

[tranquil blade]

Nvm I think I got the name wrong but thats basically it

[blazing depot]

The lore reason is that his parents were fucking stupid

[scenic dirge]

tbf, that's not that uncommon irl

https://tenor.com/view/bol-bolbol-owned-get-own-gif-19154578

[hazy echo]

One letter off
https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Rosward_Rosward

[golden valley]

Also Loki and Shamrock can parallel each other tbh. Both have brothers and extremely different world views

[hazy echo]

Oh wait you pulled a Zolo huh

[ashen perch]

we'll see though

[blazing depot]

Tbf I think most official translations use Roswald

[hazy echo]

why are you usopp

[ashen perch]

because its his year

[tranquil blade]

because 2026 is the year of Usopp

[hazy echo]

Dang Robin breakup went bad didn't it

[tranquil blade]

Possibly

There's a chance

[blazing depot]

We’re also rounding up Usopp haters cuz they are heretics

[ashen perch]

you get it

[icy wolf]

what makes anyone think shamrock will end up being good or have a change of heart, he hasnt really shown anything to suggest that

[wraith mantle]

usopp deserves hate till he becomes peak again

[ashen perch]

in 2026, we are hunting down every Usopp denier when the time is right

[wraith mantle]

we expect great things from usopp

[blazing depot]

Heresy

[wraith mantle]

we shouldn't be content with his miserable state rn

[ruby moat]

this is just impatience

[amber lark]

I would like that !

[ashen perch]

no one shall be spared, if you doubted him before, you will not be allowed to switch up

[icy wolf]

man i wish usopp was actually good post timeskip

[ashen perch]

he is great post ts

[icy wolf]

i got faith in him but hes been pretty shit

a very significant downgrade

[amber lark]

https://tenor.com/view/sogeking-one-piece-op-gif-22103717

[hazy echo]

He was great in Stampede

[icy wolf]

very much neglected

[tranquil blade]

It's like word for word bar for bar with Usopp critique

[icy wolf]

because its true

[ruby moat]

its bc they dont believe it they just spew what other ppl said

[icy wolf]

idk whats good about post timeskip usopp, i want him to be good

[sturdy steeple]

Usopp is so cool

[dense haven]

when elbaf ends and usopp gets shit I'll be there watching yall bums

[sturdy steeple]

In films

[amber lark]

[hazy echo]

https://tenor.com/pzRIA58A2FD.gif

[blazing depot]

I recently watched that I liked Usopp in it. “A snipers job is to assist his captain” is a fire quote

[proud pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/hallelujah-amen-gif-11131055747834719614

[amber lark]

[dense haven]

fanfic character lulw

[hazy echo]

https://tenor.com/uCnFwLCFZ8E.gif

[blazing depot]

My biggest critique of Stampede is that 90% of it is Bullet aura farming 😭

[ruby moat]

ppl who want usopp to do nothing in elbaf want the story to be written worse so they can slander a fictional character

[proud pivot]

shame he cant keep that energy consistently against the major threats instead of lowly bums. Dude should've been on roof piece

[ashen perch]

He's perfect from the start to Zou. Then he is just missing from WCI, Wano is kinda spotty but he has his moments and plays an undeniably significant role there. Egghead is weird because no SH really gets that specific type of shine there so I disregard it entirely. Now we are here at Elbaf, and we are here in the year of Usopp.

[tranquil blade]

Well most of the movie is god awful

[blazing depot]

Douglas Bullet hype moments and aura

[tranquil blade]

It's just not a good movie

[spice cairn]

Isnt Stampede just supernova fanservice

[tranquil blade]

Yes

[blazing depot]

He’s literally like a bad fanfic OC 😭 they had to call a buster call to arrest him

[hazy echo]

Not really

[amber lark]

Midoriboshi!!

[ashen perch]

its everyone fanservice

everyone is there

[tranquil blade]

Stampede is just aurafarming and fights

[hazy echo]

Stampede is bascially an anniversary movie

[spice cairn]

I never seen a single film

[amber lark]

[spice cairn]

But I should change it.

[hazy echo]

So it has like putting everyone major within it

[ashen perch]

if the Gorosei had shown to be fighters before Stampede came out, they would have descended down into that Pirate Festival too

[hazy echo]

It even has cameos from the previous films

[ashen perch]

thats how stupid the movie is

[tranquil blade]

The closest I got to watching an op movie in full is reading the wiki summary of movie 6

[icy wolf]

usopp shooting gunko is a top 3 moment of his post timeskip bro

[blazing depot]

Strong World is my favorite

[icy wolf]

no joke

[hazy echo]

Movie 6 is cool

[icy wolf]

theres nothing to work with

[proud pivot]

watch the one where luffy fights shiki that was a good movie

[blazing depot]

Shiki insanity moments and schizophrenia

[hazy echo]

I think Film Gold's my personal favorite out of the post ts movies

[sturdy steeple]

Movie 4, 6, Z and Red are my fav ones.

[amber lark]

You're right!!

[icy wolf]

he never has any time to shine besides dressrosa where he was actually pretty good

[tranquil blade]

Is movie 4 the Zoro one

or is that another one

[sturdy steeple]

Hell no

[ruby moat]

i think the zoro one is rly early

[tranquil blade]

lol

[ruby moat]

like movie 2 or something

[graceful belfry]

The cursed sword bull crap is movie 5

[blazing depot]

I speak for EVERYONE when I say our favorite movie is Episode of Chopper

[ruby moat]

o movie 5 oops

[sturdy steeple]

It’s called dead end. It’s where Shuraiya appears.

[tranquil blade]

@formal wagon is this true

[tranquil blade]

One off damn

[formal wagon]

yes

[blazing depot]

https://tenor.com/view/the-one-piece-is-real-one-piece-is-real-chopper-one-pice-cry-crying-gif-16937848457580500038

[hazy echo]

https://tenor.com/mRsbid4SIYk.gif

[ruby moat]

😔

[formal wagon]

it is the best movie

[sturdy steeple]

Movie 4 is basically a much better Stampede without fanservice

[hazy echo]

Movie 4 had a really cool fight

[blazing depot]

Ok this might be a worse OC than Bullet

[trim lily]

no movie villain will ever be as funny as bullet sadly

[hazy echo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrd6hUwFQeY

It's genuinely funny how Bullet and Kaido has the same backstory

[sturdy steeple]

Shuraiya is still the best filler character

[tranquil blade]

Oh it's this one

[blazing depot]

Shiki is the funniest movie villain because he’s an insane old man doing comedy skits

[sage temple]

That's kinda pathetic lmao

[trim lily]

yeah but shiki is a real character

[blazing depot]

I’m very happy the flashback kept that part of Shiki where he’s a fucking troll

[ashen perch]

He's incredibly cool in RTS, FMI and PH, constantly aura-farming as they say. Just confidence almost always oozing out of him. He also catches Baby 5 and Buffalo in another clutch moment. Dressrosa is where he is lacking in confidence, realizing the threat levels that they have challenged are now all the way to the emperor. But he still shines and thrives and is a top 2 highlight of the entire arc. He is funny in Zou. Missing in WCI. Wano has him turn around the Gifters, which were no doubt a signficant threat and were helping the Tobi Roppo and Jack win against their respective opponents. Egghead is what it is, we move on from Egghead. Elbaf's built a solid foundation for him t ostand on

[knotty pilot]

fr

[tranquil blade]

I like that Shiki is just a dickhead

[ashen perch]

tl;dr: reread.

[tranquil blade]

It makes him so good

[wraith mantle]

niggas really living off moments from a decade ago

[icy wolf]

yeah exactly

[brittle basin]

!kong

[tropic nova]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-one-piece-is-real-one-piece-live-action-nami-roronoa-zoro-gif-16253456524065335349

[icy wolf]

idk how anyone thinks post timeskip usopp has been good

[sage temple]

His top 3 moment was someone else letting him hit them 😭

God I miss pre-TS Ussop

[blazing depot]

Kong’s only known personality trait is being prejudiced to giants 😭

[sage temple]

He's pathertic now compared to then

His mindset I mean

[ashen perch]

these new readers talk about decades as if they didnt start this series like 3-4 years ago...

[tranquil blade]

Wait is this one with the candy fruit guy

[trim lily]

the candy/syrup logia

[tranquil blade]

Like way before Persospero existed

Wow lol

[amber lark]

Usopp has had some great fights in Arlong Park, Arabasta, Thriller Bark, etc.

[sage temple]

[graceful belfry]

😭

[wraith mantle]

insane rebuttal

[tranquil blade]

That's actually so peak

Perospero in the mud

[wraith mantle]

niggas can't defend their goat for shit

[ashen perch]

it has actually been a decade for me, and I don't mind at all

[sage temple]

Yeah that's what he's saying, post TS Ussop is a lot worse than pre-TS

[sturdy steeple]

I mean

[sage temple]

Terrible development if you ask me

His mindset changed so drastically its crazy

[dense haven]

its not about you tho its about oda

[blazing depot]

Year of Barbell

[trim lily]

barbell hype

[sturdy steeple]

Usopp hasn’t been all that good in Wano and Egghead. And for most new readers out here it’s a shame.

[ashen perch]

I already did that lol

[dense haven]

oda giving a sh moment every 10 years is not a good sign

[icy wolf]

he was actually bad in wano like it made me kinda dislike him, he didnt do anything in egghead either

[wraith mantle]

i caught up 7-8 years ago

is that a new reader?

[ashen perch]

he had his moments in Wano, they just werent beating Yonko Commanders tier flashy

[hazy echo]

Yea candy syrup logia to be precise

[sturdy steeple]

Yes

[sage temple]

😭

[wraith mantle]

damn

[amber lark]

hey, but Usopp doesn't need to look cool or be the strongest to defeat characters stronger than him!!

[hazy echo]

https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Ame_Ame_no_Mi

[wraith mantle]

yall be gatekeeping this shit

[trim lily]

glorp

[icy wolf]

nami was significantly better in wano than usopp

[blazing depot]

My favorite natural element, red 40 and corn syrup

[cunning narwhal]

odas birthday being january 1st is aura

[ruby moat]

perospero before perospero

[sturdy steeple]

Nowadays that would be categorised as a special paramecia

[blazing depot]

That was my late grandma’s birthday too!

[tranquil blade]

He's actually better than Perospero

[celest mauve]

I don't think oda succeeded at making me, and a lot of other people by the looks of it, care for what usopp did in wano

[ashen perch]

The gifters were gonna lead the Tobi Roppo and Jack to victory against their opponents if Usopp wasnt there to turn them around lol. Kinemon and Kiku were dying if it wasnt for him.

[sturdy steeple]

He’s a logia yeah

[sage temple]

Yeah, he defeated relatively stronger characters before the TS or at least kept up with them. Post-TS Ussop is like a watered down version of who he once was

[golden valley]

Maybe hot-take: I think Kaku is redeemable https://hot.planeptune.us/manga/One-Piece/1119-002.png

[cunning narwhal]

https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Moa_Moa_no_Mi this is my favorite fruit. too bad its non canon 😭

[sage temple]

It's like he decreases character-wise as the story goes on

[trim lily]

yeah he can atone for what hes done

[sage temple]

When will he use Observation Haki again 😭

[knotty pilot]

pretty soon

[wraith mantle]

usopp giving a speech to broggy and dorry that will help them resist domi reversi would be cool

[amber lark]

Maybe! he didn't fare well against the beast pirates x.x

[blazing depot]

Much more than Lucci, who literally only likes his job cuz he can legally kill people

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-loss-gekko-rex-coingecko-gif-12936274356888592087

I sure do hope so lu

Because from what we've seen he's just so much worse than he was before

Genuinely a negative slope

[knotty pilot]

usopp will have his moments soon

[wraith mantle]

hes not so much worse, but stagnant

[sage temple]

True

[ashen perch]

Thats a separate conversation, I already said that I would concede on it not being his best arc, Oda didnt do him right, but to act like he didnt do anything at all is ridiculous.

[cunning narwhal]

i thought so ever since he willingly gave zoro his key after he lost

[knotty pilot]

i really liked the panel of usopp and luffy seeing elbaph

[wraith mantle]

pre ts usopp was top 3 strawhats

[ruby moat]

that shit was beautiful

[knotty pilot]

real

[ruby moat]

cant wait for it to get official color

[blazing depot]

He’ll get his flowers soon so I’m not stressing

[sage temple]

It definitely seems like he's worse since everyone around him has gotten upgrades and developed minds

[knotty pilot]

same

[ashen perch]

please stop saying pre ts pre ts, like he wasnt the greatest till he disappeared in WCI lol

[sage temple]

During pre-TS he was actually improving

[wraith mantle]

uh yeah in comparison thats true

[golden valley]

Yeah but maybe another hot take: I think Lucci lives EoS and stops his killing sprees

[dense haven]

usopp in wano btw

[celest mauve]

yes he didn't do nothing, but his contributions that arc are probably the lowest along with brook and the presentation is lackluster

[sage temple]

😂 😂 😂

[trim lily]

itll come true

[wraith mantle]

egghead too

[blazing depot]

Bro that dude is going to JAIL

[trim lily]

like all his lies

[ruby moat]

It'd be genuinely bad writing from Oda for Usopp to not have an impactful moment on Elbaf, which is why it's weird for people to almost be rooting for it. Like dawg you want the story to be worse for slander?

[trim lily]

it would be kinda funny if it happened

[sage temple]

I've seen Ussop fans cope and say he'll come from the dead

[amber lark]

https://tenor.com/view/babe-babe-one-piece-one-piece-mr-4-mr-4-one-piece-gif-6870527688111956544

[golden valley]

If Usopp gets nothing this arc, I promise you I’d give up on him

And genuinely become a usopp hater

[blazing depot]

This is me relating to everything Usopp related…

[sage temple]

He can do that with Stansen's hammer

Lol

[hazy echo]

Here it was

[cunning narwhal]

if usopp gets nothing this arc ill become an oda hater

[golden valley]

But i trust Oda

He wont do usopp dirty

[ashen perch]

Lowest is ridiculous lol, the gifters all turned because of him, the same gifters that were being a significant help for the Tobi Roppo and Jack in their fights. The same gifters that Zoro was even struggling against. The same gifters that Zoro claimed were far too many in number and too skilful to be handled.

[golden valley]

He can’t

[amber lark]

https://tenor.com/view/ulti-headbutt-one-piece-usopp-action-gif-24721422

[knotty pilot]

ty, the art is beautiful

[cunning narwhal]

he has the easiest alley oop by making usopp vs killingham happen

[blazing depot]

People will see this and think Oda has nothing for Usopp this arc

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-duck-gif-1363576254939741235

[ruby moat]

this is dumb. It's not usopp's fault, it's oda's

[ashen perch]

Could the presentation have been better? Ofc yea. But these are tangible and signficant contributions and you cannot just lalalala out your way through

[amber lark]

I think Wano was Usopp's worst performance, and I'm a Usopp fan.

[dense haven]

based

[knotty pilot]

zoro should've had more focus in wano and franky in egghead but usopp will have his moments in elbaph

[ruby moat]

the toko shit is pearl clutching tho the bitch stole it

[sage temple]

Lmao it's only dumb to hate on a character if it's Ussop

[ashen perch]

WCI was Usopp's worst performance

[sage temple]

You can hate on everyone else but don't hate Ussop, hate Oda

[celest mauve]

let's contrast nami and usopp in the raid since they got paired up for much of it:
nami - gets special focus on defending luffy's dream to the point of near death, gets a prominent action moment showing her hatred for ulti and love for tama, saves zeus' life, uses him to defeat a tobi roppo, and gets a moment of standing up to kaido for luffy's sake

usopp - gets some panels of shooting kibi dango in passing, his strongest attack against page one is shown to be entirely ineffective, gets bodied otherwise, sets up nami to defeat ulti by separating tama from the latter, has a nice little speech about samurai honor being bullshit but it isn't presented in a way that gets many people to care

[cunning narwhal]

i fell like there are worse arcs for usopp, usopp had a big impact in wano

[blazing depot]

Imagine if Usopp and Loki became buds, how would Socrates feel?

[dry hamlet]

nah oda just portrays the character ngl

usopp is a weak pos

[sage temple]

I don't really hate Ussop I'm moreso disappointed in him

Lmao

[ruby moat]

weak? sure. pos? nope

[blazing depot]

Patience brother

[sage temple]

I wouldn't really care about Ussop any more if he became buds with Loki

It'd be cool though I guess

[amber lark]

yeah! my favorite Suopp fight is in Alabasta because he teams up with Chopper,I hope to see more fights like that!!

[icy wolf]

whats pos

[ruby moat]

piece of shit

[sage temple]

Same

[wraith mantle]

usopp in dressrosa was goated

[icy wolf]

i love him

[golden valley]

You realize what oda writes reflects what the characters are right?

[icy wolf]

hes just being severely neglected for like 20 years

[ashen perch]

Its ridiculous, he never could have anticipated that she would do that. He didnt even talk to her about it lol, she just somehow managed to hear about it and bought it. And he immediately strongly apologises for it.

[sage temple]

No no. You can hate on everybody else, but never hate on Ussop, hate on Oda instead

[ruby moat]

She didn't even buy it. She stole it.

[ornate tartan]

same

[wraith mantle]

but if you say this, the usopp brigade will jump you

[ashen perch]

oh yea stole

[ornate tartan]

i don’t hate the guy

[sage temple]

You can hate on Loki, Kizaru, whatever but Ussop? NO! Just hate Oda

[ornate tartan]

but i also don’t believe the ridiculous shit fans try to say ab what usopp will do

[blazing depot]

Yeah I agree he’s not getting Ragnir

[slender storm]

Untill usopp awakens his dosundada genes hes excluded from nepo piece

[sage temple]

Honestly the fans are extremely insufferable

[spice cairn]

You who else is getting Ragnir?

[ruby moat]

usopp ragnir actually has way more believers than i expected ngl

[spice cairn]

[blazing depot]

I mean Usopp haters are just as annoying lol

[ruby moat]

i saw supah in like full support of it

would have never guessed that

[celest mauve]

loki would have to die for usopp to somehow have any chance at ragnir, and that's not happening ofc

[ornate tartan]

I was called a hater because i said he’s not getting ragnir

[sage temple]

The earth being flat actually has way more believers than I expected ngl

[wraith mantle]

it would be bad writing for usopp to get ragnir

[ashen perch]

theres no Loki hate, at all.

[blazing depot]

Yeah I’m an Usopp supporter but even I know it’s cope 😭

[amber lark]

yeah bro, Ulti destroyed Usopp, he didn't stand a chance 😭

[dry hamlet]

can usopp lift the kabuto at this point

[spice cairn]

I work in a pharmacy and I had a patient who genuinely believes it btw

It is not a meme

[urban lodge]

I really don't get the ragnir idea, that would make him too strong

[golden valley]

Right lol.

[spice cairn]

People out there genuinely believe it.

[urban lodge]

That kinda goes against his character

[dry hamlet]

can he sling the slingshot all the way back anymore

[sage temple]

I'm not saying there is Loki hate or Kizaru hate. I'm pointing out how ridiculous it is to say "hate Oda instead of the character" for Ussop but it's fine to hate on everybody else

That's silly

Lmao

[ornate tartan]

the strawhats i’m looking forward to the most for their development is nami easily and also brook backstory with gunko

everyday mfs talking ab usopp ragnir

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/view/flat-flat-earth-funny-meme-dinosaur-gif-8201177651879106722

[blazing depot]

Ive had coworkers who read OP. I knew a guy who insisted Aokiji was a revolutionary

[ashen perch]

yeah but it would make sense as an example if the hate in question existed, it doesnt

[spice cairn]

Unfortunately it was a very popular meme and I think still is.

[golden valley]

They’ll say gravity exists but then not abide by how gravity works which supports globe earth

[blazing depot]

YALL AINT READY

GUNKO FLASHBACK

PREPARE TO CRY

[ornate tartan]

nami is more interesting then usopp to me

[sage temple]

It's not like nobody hates on Loki lol

Every character has haters

[amber lark]

Same!! I'm a fan of Usopp, but I recognize his limitations. He's not super strong like Zoro or Sanji, but even so, with ingenuity, he manages to get out of difficult situations!

[ruby moat]

Coworker theories are the best

[spice cairn]

I hate Loki specifically because Socrates

[sage temple]

^

See

[celest mauve]

infinitely more so, I really hope we get some greater nami focus this arc or the next

[spice cairn]

But I love him besides it.

[sage temple]

A hater right there

[slender storm]

Ussop needs this bro he hasnt had a W since dressrosa 10 years ago 😭

[spice cairn]

I love Loki man

[sage temple]

Oh

[ruby moat]

All the Loki hate Socrates is talking about was generated by he himself

[sage temple]

[spice cairn]

But it is amusing to see you be his lawyer

[sage temple]

👍

[spice cairn]

Like all the time

[blazing depot]

I had a boss who was a Solo Leveling fan always making fun of me for being an OP fan 😭

[golden valley]

Socrates makes it hard for me to glaze Loki but regardless of the glaze, Loki is peak

[ashen perch]

How so? He used the weapon of the strongest man from Skypiea/Shandora even as early as Water 7. Its all just tools, thats always been his arsenal. His pop greens make him way stronger than he should be too.

[brittle basin]

we're super insulated with our server, so we forget what it's like to hear opinions not of our inner circle of extreme One Piece fans (aka NEEEEEERRDS)

[sage temple]

How can I make it easier for yall to glaze Loki

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-family-guy-perhaps-maybe-gif-16249623

[golden valley]

By toning down your loki glaze sir

Let us wank loki

You’ve done enough

[sage temple]

I'll do that next year

[amber lark]

I don't want Loki to join the Straw Hats; I prefer a different kind of giant or an alliance that doesn't require a giant as part of the crew.

[spice cairn]

I mean Loki is going to join the compass of Luffy allies anyways

[blazing depot]

Remember the “normal” one piece fans probably watch stuff like this regularly 😭

[sage temple]

Also Bartsky can you stop unblocking my messages I enjoy myself more thinking you don't read what I say

[slender storm]

Solo leveling fans when they slip on a puddle (they lost all the aura they farmed for 20 years) https://tenor.com/view/black-man-crying-cry-crying-crying-emoji-crying-meme-gif-3223392509479903783

[urban lodge]

It's just too absurd a power up and way too sudden, no way he would remain the weakest after it

[graceful belfry]

Almost half a mil for a dude chatting out his personal hypotheticals. I shoulda did YouTube, man

[ashen perch]

it does not go against his character to get stronger, strength is part of what progresses him further as a character. This is established in Little Garden when his dream is established. Nami says that she wants that brave warrior of the sea to be shown through his actions.

[golden valley]

Funnily enough, I had a high school friend who genuinely engaged in agenda piece

[graceful belfry]

Cinema

[golden valley]

The bleach pfp says it all

[ashen perch]

if you overrate the Ragnir that much maybe. I think it depends on the user.

[ruby moat]

u still can tbh just gotta get lucky

[slender storm]

Bro probably thinks oda is ruining one piece

[blazing depot]

I was the only One Piece fan in my hs friend group but my friend’s girlfriend said watching One Piece was a turnoff and red flag cuz all her exes were fans

[amber lark]

I don't want Loki as a straw hat, no way!!

[urban lodge]

I don't think I'm overrating it, it's an extremely strong weapon inherently

[ruby moat]

if all her exes were fans then i think it means something else tbh..

[fast pagoda]

Ragnir > Roger and Garp

[graceful belfry]

True. I could. In all seriousness, I don’t like the sound of my own voice enough to commit to recording videos

[slender storm]

What did socretes say

[blazing depot]

They were Zoro fans

[golden valley]

Fuck that, buggy fans suck and fuck buggy

[graceful belfry]

Hey

That’s not nice

[urban lodge]

It can summon lightning, weighs who knows how much and has a zoan, potentially a mythical

[ruby moat]

thats valid also video editing is hard!!!

[brittle basin]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/164970986284777473/1118973870947450980/1118883755336151180.gif

[celest mauve]

even harald wasn't able to get past it to eat the legendary DF

[fast pagoda]

Probably Koby fans

[ruby moat]

????

wtf

[celest mauve]

that's what he implied anyway, that no one has ever managed to eat the DF

[golden valley]

See, yall aren’t real bro

Also, this is a block

[knotty pilot]

buggy getting conq btw

[graceful belfry]

Conquerers coated buggy balls

[ruby moat]

https://tenor.com/view/pffttt-7tv-twitch-gif-12963762873218034436

[slender storm]

Soft ahh feelings

[fast pagoda]

Imagine seriously being pissed off by this hilairous ass drawing lol

[golden valley]

Just drop the series

[ruby moat]

🔥 acoc balls

[golden valley]

hilarious

[amber lark]

I don't have any friends to talk to about One Piece, only you guys are my friends

[knotty pilot]

it makes sense for buggy to have CoC

[ruby moat]

we're glad to have you here

atleast I am

[grand flower]

I’m your enemy

[golden valley]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[amber lark]

Hahaha

[blazing depot]

In college tho there’s more op fans but they’re all catching up

[golden valley]

This sounds so wholesome

[blazing depot]

So I can’t say anything

[amber lark]

Tyyyy!

[graceful belfry]

Everybody wants to be

[ruby moat]

oh the missouri

[grand flower]

I’m a lover actually

[graceful belfry]

Spread your love all over the world

[icy wolf]

i tried to put all my irl friends on one piece and the furthest any of them made before dropping it was skypiea

[slender storm]

Get them onto one pace its by far the best way to become a one piece fan

[amber lark]

I think there's a reason we all dedicate time to this Discord server!!

[knotty pilot]

was that a reference

[graceful belfry]

Yes

A bad one

[golden valley]

True!

[grand flower]

Just like Rayleigh

[knotty pilot]

i understood dw

[grand flower]

I didn’t

[ashen perch]

Yeah its gonna be a significant powerup for Usopp, but not to the crazy level that people are anticipating. Also I am anticipating that it will take a while for Usopp to fully make it his, learn how to utilize it to its fullest and all that, because that is how Oda does powerups. Zoro still hasnt mastered KOH, Luffy has his G5 time-limit, Robin got knocked out after using Demonio, etc.

[grand flower]

Is it Vinland saga

[slender storm]

Toei’s pacing is what drags down one piece sadly

[knotty pilot]

reference to arcane song by ID

[golden valley]

Robin got knocked out from that?

[grand flower]

Bet lemme listen

One direction?

[golden valley]

I did not know this

[blazing depot]

Oh I had a coworker who was obsessed with Vinland 😭 kept quoting on our shifts too

[knotty pilot]

imagine dragons

[ashen perch]

yeah she fell down immediately after the fight

[grand flower]

Oh…

[blazing depot]

“I have no enemies” while I’m mopping

[hot cairn]

woah Arsal what is this change

[knotty pilot]

1d has so many bangers tho

[amber lark]

Yeah! and I'm trying to get my 8-year-old nephew to watch One Piece so I can leave him with something good!!

[graceful belfry]

Bagged the most attractive woman in the verse and told himself it wasn’t enough. Gotta respect that

[brittle basin]

Weapons grade cringe

[grand flower]

My ex put me on

They really do

[grand flower]

I feel him honestly

You may be in love

[ashen perch]

New year, New me: and this is the Year of Usopp. So its an Usopp-ish me.

[grand flower]

But sometimes you see a baddie and you just gotta

[knotty pilot]

good taste ngl

[blazing depot]

It’s like when people read for the first time in prison and drop “truth bombs”

[rose rune]

I only quote shakespeare

[blazing depot]

To bee or not to bee

[rose rune]

yorik my friend something something

[sage temple]

Ragnir goes against what Ussop has been built up upon. And it's also funny that Ussop fans will use his character buildup to say he'll do crazy shit.

Ussop would literally do zero work in using the hammer and it kind of tones down his bravery and makes it really lame based on how he works best when he's given his own time to shine and not depending on others(Ragnir's sentience) as much. Also the fact that you guys compare his previous hammers to Ragnir is kinda lame in the same way. Ussop has almost always been forced to build courage & build his strength up to succeed and using Ragnir would be like an antithesis of that.

Also if the fruit has been passed down between royal families, so would Ragnir. And it's just kind of illogical to take Loki's own inheritance that Oda gives importance to constantly and give it to Ussop who wouldn't even be using the hammer, he'd just be touching it at that point since the hammer moves by itself. This is the same reason why it wouldn't make sense for Ussop to eat a DF as well btw.

Also it's kind of annoying when people are so inclined to take stuff from Loki lmao his fruit, his hammer, his importance, etc.

This is why it would fit Ussop a lot better to use Stansen's hammer instead of Loki's who's given it by inheritance.

[amber lark]

Oh nice! Happy usopp new year!.

[rose rune]

Usopp will wield Loki

[ashen perch]

buddy trust me I can tell its more than just kind of annoying to you

you have been fuming for days at this, at the thought of it even

[trim lily]

socrates is intrinsically linked to loki

any percieved slight on loki mirrors over

[ruby moat]

loki losing something is like socrates himself losing something

[sage temple]

Me being annoyed by it doesn't factor into me being wrong or not

Lmao

I don't get why that's all you could gather from what I've said

[brittle basin]

Loki loses his arm and then irl Socrates starts having phantom arm syndrome.

[sage temple]

It isn't even in the same message

[amber lark]

https://tenor.com/view/wyverns-w-gif-12206778804536551216

[ashen perch]

also that whole paragraph is a bunch of assumptions, you have no clue, youre entirely clueless, youre this dude

[sage temple]

Yeah, I'm not denying Ussop using a hammer this arc. I said it'd make more sense for Ussop to redesign and use Stansen's hammer

[ruby moat]

The incorrectly named emote 💔

[amber lark]

Hahahaa

[ashen perch]

its funny that way

[rose rune]

Loki loses his arm, and Usopp starts using his arm as a hammer

[fast pagoda]

Idrc if Usopp gets Ragnir or not but Loki will still be goated

[sage temple]

I guess so. I moreso just wrote that all out so I can forward it when people bring it up

[amber lark]

🔥

[fast pagoda]

However if Usopp gets Ragnir what weapon would Loki even use???

[amber lark]

It is!

[rose rune]

his horns

he'll pull them out and wield them as daggers

[sage temple]

The sword in Elbaph

[rose rune]

Loki will be the rogue of the crew

[ruby moat]

His fathers sword which usopp will pull out of jarul (unfortunately killing him but it is what it is)

[sage temple]

Loki using the sword of Elbaph would make sense if Ussop can use Ragnir

Law of equivalent exchange

[slender storm]

Hammers have always been ussop’s back up weapon but his main weapon is the slingshot so i think he will use ragnir for a critical moment in elbaf where loki is getting thrashed but once the arc is over loki will still have ragnir and ussop instead will be given a 100ton hammer made of sea stone and adam wood

[ashen perch]

"Usopp would literally do zero work" says who? nobody.

"passed down Royal Families" never mattered, never will. Zoro has Enma, that sword was passed down to the Royal Princess of Wano, Kozuki Hiyori. Nami has Zeus, the weapon of Emperor Big Mom herself.

[proud pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/sanji-sad-gif-14315540892923535720

[sage temple]

Again I'm not saying he won't use a hammer at all this arc

Stansen literally says he'd repay Ussop some day

He can give Ussop his hammer

Lmao

[rose rune]

clearly Luffy will wield the sword

[trim lily]

usopp cant hold that hammer

[sage temple]

Ussop can redesign it?

[ashen perch]

Socrates youre ragebaiting with this stansen shit

[sage temple]

He made the climatact?

[trim lily]

that defeats the point of it

[ashen perch]

its a real regular giant hammer, stop it

[sage temple]

You're kinda defensive about this lmao

[trim lily]

if you just give usopp a normal hammer lol

[sage temple]

No it isn't

If Ussop hollows it out it would be a perfect sequence

[rose rune]

usopp the sniper and his trusty hammer

[dense haven]

socrates downplaying loki I cant believe my own eyes

[sage temple]

The second I respond to your message I'm at the peak of utter rage

[trim lily]

but then we're just repeating the same gag from like 15 years ago

[slender storm]

When did he say that ion remember him and ussop directly talking

[ashen perch]

he has beaten more people with hammers than his sniping skills

[amber lark]

there are several theories about why Luffy would use a sword and shield, but it doesn't seem like Luffy's style. They also talk about the wings he has

[trim lily]

the point of him using ragnir is to turn it into a reality

[sage temple]

Just like that gag was repeated before

[fast pagoda]

The only "crazy" theory I have serious investment in rn is Kaido and Linlin joining the BBP anyways

[rose rune]

which is kinda sad

[sage temple]

Acting like gags being repeated has never been done before

[amber lark]

F*ck yeah!!

[trim lily]

but this isnt supposed to just be a gag is the thing

[ashen perch]

Ragnir works because its magical, it has a mythical zoan that can shapeshift in many depictions of it

[trim lily]

ragnir is literally the only way usopp could properly use a giant hammer

[rose rune]

maybe usopp can build a cannon into the hammer

[wraith mantle]

holy headcanon

[ashen perch]

This isnt a thing with fucking Stansen

[ashen perch]

yeah?

[ruby moat]

we've literally seen it in 3 different forms

[sage temple]

Stansen says "I'll pay you back strawhats" and nobody answers except for Ussop who says "no problem" or smth which is made into a little funny moment because Ussop didn't do anything

[trim lily]

well socrates isnt in good faith arguign for stansen

[proud pivot]

hes a sniper. what use does he have for a hammer

[trim lily]

idk ask usopp, hes used it a ton before

[sage temple]

?

[trim lily]

he isnt just a sniper

[proud pivot]

? to fix the going merry?

[dense haven]

ragnir accepting usopp means he thinks usopp and loki are equals

is that what you really want

[steel stirrup]

He can shoot the hammer like he did in Alabasta

[ashen perch]

its clearly a mythical zoan, its clearly Ratatoskr, its clearly magical, and it can clearly shapeshift

[trim lily]

in like 3 fights pre ts

[sage temple]

Why are you suddenly saying I'm in bad faith the second I introduce another possibility

Lmao

[trim lily]

well clearly is a bit of a stretch lol

we just know its a zoan

[rose rune]

murder

[ashen perch]

why would a squirrel in the norse arc not be Ratatoskr lol

[proud pivot]

aint no way oda is just gonna turn usopp into a melee fighter dudes a sniper man

[ashen perch]

it can produce lightning man

[sage temple]

This joke would only work if Loki got the hammer today or smth

[steel stirrup]

True true

[sage temple]

He got it 14 years ago

[wraith mantle]

zoan transformations are hardly "shapeshifting"

[ashen perch]

what regular squirrels produce lightning

[trim lily]

yeah lightning ill give so its probably mythical

i dont know about shapeshifting

[amber lark]

I think the same, Usopp won't have anything to do with it, but it's fun to see how they speculate about Usopp and the hammer

[slender storm]

He fell ontop of charlos’ dad and almost killed him making him the 2nd character ever to hurt a celestial dragon

[sage temple]

Mfs act like they know everything after googling "ratatoskr abilities"

[proud pivot]

this is worse than resin fruit gear 5 theories

[ashen perch]

I do

[amber lark]

Hahahah

[ashen perch]

I knew about the dude from Marvel before this smh

[hearty shore]

They gonna get ratatoskr from smite

[sage temple]

Lmaooo

[trim lily]

i mean so far it matches that more lol

[proud pivot]

if gear 5 taught one piece fans anything, it's that ppl are gonna fight in ways they are most comfortable with and they wont switch it up. so usopp will forever snipe ppl down

[trim lily]

it got that lightning power

[ashen perch]

Oda is too

[sage temple]

Oda? Or professional plagiarist

[rose rune]

he is indestructible, has to attack every turn, and draws you a card if he or anyone else connects

[sage temple]

[ashen perch]

I mean there's been clear references to MCU this arc

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-computer-notebook-explaning-gif-21152267

[ashen perch]

he's a fan

Loki's design itself is a big Marvel reference

[hearty shore]

MCU loki?

[trim lily]

well the helmet anyway

[ashen perch]

Ancient Giant horns didnt ever look like this, Oda made them like this because it looked like the helmet that Loki wears

[rose rune]

mtg knowledge finally coming in handy

[sage temple]

Yeah I remember when MCU Loki had pink and purple hair

[hearty shore]

Nah aside from the horns i don't see it

[sage temple]

[amber lark]

[slender storm]

Ussop is a genius cant be called a fraud if being a liar is your whole career

[ashen perch]

I am talking about the horns lol

[trim lily]

part of his design references it but thats about it

[ashen perch]

Oda never drew horns like this on Ancient GIants, he did that because he was inspired by Marvel here

also

[amber lark]

You're right!

[hearty shore]

Loki's horns are biological, MCU loki horns are on the helmet

[sage temple]

I've seen like 50 horned Lokis all in different universes

[sage temple]

Oh

Thank god for you

[ashen perch]

the chapter Loki debuted in, thats a reference that I won't mention but

[sage temple]

Idk what I'd do without that clarification

https://tenor.com/view/drake-computer-notebook-explaning-gif-21152267

[ruby moat]

https://tenor.com/view/wyverns-w-gif-12206778804536551216

[ashen perch]

the point is that he is inspired by them lol

[rose rune]

MCU is the real norse mythology

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/view/loki-alligator-growl-gif-22313854

[ruby moat]

idk what that wyvern thing is

[wraith mantle]

niggas really think oda watches the MCU

[trim lily]

i mean yeah hes probably seen some of it

[proud pivot]

this is just oda having fun. usopp is a sniper

[ashen perch]

okay I guess its not a big deal I can mention it

[trim lily]

marvel isnt exactly a niche thing globablly

[ashen perch]

In MCU, Loki is "Variant L1130", like the chapter in which Loki debuts.

[sage temple]

What the shit Arsal I was watching that show

Why would you spoil that for me

[ashen perch]

its not a spoiler smh

[knotty pilot]

fr

[frail kindle]

FUCKING SPOILERS

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-disrespect-hold-it-in-keep-it-together-rage-composure-gif-23335160

[steel stirrup]

Eww

[ashen perch]

the other spoiler-y thing was brought up by Irene/HPQ here, I wont mention that though, thats a real big spoiler

[hearty shore]

Wait you guys genuinely tweaking because of loki's universe identifier like it actually affects the plot of the series?

[dense haven]

im pretty sure I remember mods deleting that variant shit when loki got revealed in the manga

[slender storm]

So one piece loki “tricks” is him lying about how he murdered his dad in cold blood inorder not to ruin haralds legacy

[dense haven]

everyone was posting that

[proud pivot]

i can show u a fight scene with luffy using a sword too

[iron oriole]

omg its Rich, i haven't seen you since last year

[ornate tartan]

bro😂😂 shaggy

[proud pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/luffy-katana-punch-luffy-luffy-katana-luffy-punch-gif-26787337

[steel stirrup]

Not the same

[rose rune]

zoinks

[ashen perch]

youre talking as if MCU wasnt like the biggest franchise in the world at one point

[hot cairn]

what will Usopp do this year?

[ornate tartan]

germa genes + training

[frail kindle]

Why does Sanji turn into shaggy

[amber lark]

My favorite Usopp's fight!

[ashen perch]

Ofc Oda has seen MCU shit, he is just a dude

[trim lily]

i think we mightve lost the plot on the original point being made

we're just arguing to argue

[ashen perch]

I dont actually remember it atp

[rose rune]

same facial hair, same build

[ashen perch]

oh yea

[slender storm]

His last name is the also the pirate king’s name 🔥

[ashen perch]

Ratatoskr

lmao

yea, the point is, Oda watches comicbook stuff lol, he always has

[steel stirrup]

And proof that even as a sniper he can use a hammer he has a whole named attack that involves hammers

[frail kindle]

Oda is a nerd, more news at 11

[ornate tartan]

2027 is the year of Nami

[ashen perch]

Doflamingo is a DC reference, if you couldnt tell............

[muted hedge]

wasn't Oda's inspiration for Ju-Peters sandworm the fact that he watched Dune

[trim lily]

no but its possible

[sage temple]

Stansen gives Ussop his hammer as a way to repay him

[slender storm]

He literally writes one of the most popular comic books of all time

[proud pivot]

for every time usopp fought with a hammer he fought 10x more with a projectile. he's a sniper

[ashen perch]

true

[amber lark]

Real!

[amber lark]

https://tenor.com/view/babe-babe-one-piece-one-piece-mr-4-mr-4-one-piece-gif-6870527688111956544

[rose rune]

for some reason I want Oda to make arcs based on lame shows like storage wars and deadliest catch now

[muted hedge]

lol

[ruby moat]

the chapter that the worm was revealed was very close to the release of one of the dune movies, i think dune 2, but it hasnt been hard confirmed

[trim lily]

given ratatoskr was known to be mischievous and a bit of an ass i could see oda reasonably giving it shapeshifting

[amber lark]

You're right

[trim lily]

though i don’t know if oda will carry over that personality lol

[ashen perch]

Give a rousing speech to try to wake up Dorry and Brogy, get in the face of Imu and piss him off like he pissed off Doflamingo, and depending on the pacing, maybe we will be at my 2v2 idea of Domi Loki and Ragnir v Luffy and Usopp too. Also many more things that you and I wont even anticipate

[proud pivot]

the hammer thing is low-tier comedy. its not srs. look at this this wont take down van augur

[sage temple]

If Loki is Domi'd you might as well Domi Luffy too

https://tenor.com/view/angry-fan-mlb-baseball-gif-23871407

[muted hedge]

i wonder if there's any reason other than just meta, for why Ragnir hasn't gone into their squirrel form before this flashback, given we know that the hammer was lifted so it should be freed from the seastone if that was a hinderance

[ashen perch]

Homeland

theory

[sage temple]

The sleeptids aren't from this world

[ashen perch]

I am not arguing this again we already did this

[wraith mantle]

imu getting pissed off by usopp sounds like ass

[sage temple]

🤦‍♂️

[ashen perch]

Shuron already explained to you, they werent even Domi Reversi'd

[sage temple]

Yeah I'd rather not bc I know I'm right

[trim lily]

time is a flat circle

[sage temple]

Im jk

[proud pivot]

why would usopp piss him off tho

atleast any more than nami or w.e

[sage temple]

They literally were tho

[wraith mantle]

thats all he can do apparently

[sage temple]

The kids aren't dreaming about Domi Reversi'd Nika lmao

[proud pivot]

loool

[ashen perch]

they werent, Qilingham rebirths them by blowing a horn

[proud pivot]

u a fellow usopp hater?

[sage temple]

Yeah, Qilingham rebirths them, and Imu transforms them

[wraith mantle]

hate is a strong word

[slender storm]

Ragnir probably doesn’t reveal itself to strangers it took loki slamming and destroying his old hammer to make ragnir go into squirrel form

[sage temple]

You cannot show me Domi Reversi beings coming from one of the nightmare holes

[inner agate]

do something effective like when he pissed off doffy by knocking out sugar

[sage temple]

Because they aren't made like that

Imu alters them

[ashen perch]

??

I easily can?

[sage temple]

Then do it?

[proud pivot]

if usopp comes in clutch somehow against imu which is impossible he deserves alot of credit but it has to make sense

[muted hedge]

could be, though it's a bit strange given that Ragnir could make this story even more plausible for the likes of Hajrudin to start believing in Loki

[stone tulip]

Considering how Elbaf has so many call backs to Arabasta we might get a mix of that moment with another moment from Dressrosa by using either Ragnir or Stansten’s hammer as an ammo

[proud pivot]

thing is tho, while luffy and zoro and sanji are in the underworld imu is right there with usopp etc how r they still alive

[steel stirrup]

Using Ragnir would be peak imo

[ashen perch]

this is how the beings are coming out, the kids are thinking of demons and so they are pumping out monstrosities that look Domi Reversi'd

thats all

[steel stirrup]

Stansens hammer would be fine too

I would prefer Ragnir

[sage temple]

They are dreaming of demons

[stone tulip]

Ragebaiting Imu just like he did with Doffy

[sage temple]

The nightmares aren't Domi Reversi'd

[proud pivot]

i used to be anti sanji but then i realized he was peak all along. u fw sanji?

[stone tulip]

I am fine with either both

[ashen perch]

yes, Imu isnt involved in this

[sage temple]

Yes

[wraith mantle]

yeah mr prince is goated

[knotty pilot]

sanji getting conq

[steel stirrup]

Ragnir letting Usopp use him would mean that Usopp is worthy and would make me happy

[hot cairn]

I hope at least one of those things actually happens, I want my boy to shine

[brittle basin]

conq coated diable jambe

[stone tulip]

Yeah and maybe easier too cause it’s a squirrel so Usopp can guide it to the sling I suppose

[proud pivot]

he doesn't need that bs. He needs some vegapunk enhancements

[hot cairn]

peak

[steel stirrup]

Imagine he loads the squirrel and mid flight it transforms and smacks someone

[ashen perch]

just give it time, we are in the big year of Usopp, we are close to greatness.

[knotty pilot]

it makes sense for both wings to have CoC

[brittle basin]

Oda isn't that cool. You'll take your disgusting haki and you'll LIKE it.

[sage temple]

This guy is literally altered

[stone tulip]

Yeah it isn’t domi reversi, I think the straw hats can beat it as long as the manhole disappears

[ashen perch]

again, this is simply becaus they are imagining creatures that look similar

[muted hedge]

beating Killingham would probably stop the sleeptids for the most part

[proud pivot]

nah. Vegapunk changed it up. science > haki. science can create devil fruits, it can create nukes etc

[stone tulip]

That’s exactly how I imagined it

[fast pagoda]

Killingham improved his drawing skills

[sage temple]

Who is saying "Look! There's a thunder cloud that looks EXACTLY like they've been Domi Reversi'd"

[ashen perch]

we saw it lol, they saw the domi'd captains and started thinking of creatures like them

[sage temple]

This guy is changed as well

[sage temple]

Yeah, and they produced literal demons. Not Domi Reversi versions of them. The flame-eyes and fangs are CONSISTENT with all Domi Reversi creatures

[ashen perch]

that guy was defeated already lol

[amber lark]

nah, I believe this Elbaf arc is meant to help Sanji and Brook develop haki, Brook with a little haki would become lethal!

[sage temple]

They don't die

[ashen perch]

Dorry and Brogy blew holes through the Nidhoggr

[stone tulip]

Yeah my eyes where opened thanks to certain someone with that idea lol

[sage temple]

They can't die

[ashen perch]

I dont remember seeing the Nidhoggr again

[sage temple]

They can literally put themselves back together

[sage temple]

Now you have

[ashen perch]

come on man

they are coming out of the holes again, they arent regenerating

[stone tulip]

Completely missing the point of Wano 🥀

[ashen perch]

they are simply reborn again and again

[sage temple]

Again, before -> after

[proud pivot]

u missing the point of egghead buddy. nvm wano. science > everything in one piece

[amber lark]

I'm worried that they might have to kill Brogy and Dorry to remove the Imu effect 😭

[ashen perch]

anyways I am not doing this again I already told you, they arent changed, they are different because of what the kids are imagining now

I was gonna post something, I Forgot what it was now

[slender storm]

Fun fact: enma had 6 haki knots placed by oden and zoro used 4 of them he only has 1 for nasujuro and 1 for mihawk now

[stone tulip]

Gaban is great example of this and Oda deadass had to compare him with Sanji through Luffy himself, clearly a set up for him to get conquerors

[knotty pilot]

not every scientist is like vegapunk

[ashen perch]

read this, slowly

[stone tulip]

Sanji’s character arc was him distancing himself from Germa hence why he destroyed raid suit and go on his own path buddy

[ashen perch]

all of it

[proud pivot]

well if sanji doesn't wanna play second fiddle to zoro he needs to embrace science.

im sure he'll get there

[sage temple]

It doesn't matter if they have holes in them, they don't die

They can literally just get back up

[ashen perch]

no, they are respawning

thats what Qillingham is saying

[knotty pilot]

exactly, gaban pararells sanji

[stone tulip]

Really missed the obvious set up that he is getting conquerors in this arc lmao

[brittle basin]

Sanji has to get conq. otherwise he's fighting no God's Knight.

[stone tulip]

Yeah and the final nail in the coffin was Oda went out of his way to censor Gaban’s answer to Sanji’s question

[amber lark]

Sanji should have kept the Germa outfit! 😭,
that would have given him a considerable power boost, just like Zoro with his new sword!!

[knotty pilot]

fr. didn't luffy also say that they were similar😭

[proud pivot]

i really dont care dude. Haki has many holes in it, disregard the kaido propaganda that man was a liar. let me tell u this, caesar defeated katakuri a a man with significantly more haki

[sage temple]

This guy was defeated before and he came back

[stone tulip]

Germa suit is cool but it’s understandable why he had to destroy it cause it symbol is him moving on from the whole thing

[ashen perch]

anyways, about Usopp pissing off Imu, its destiny really

[proud pivot]

i can defo see imu directly talking to this dude that will be interesting dialogue lol

[digital spear]

WHAT

Happy new year

[stone tulip]

Caesar used a devil fruit powers not science and it wasn’t really him defeating but rather manipulating him to fight against Oven

[proud pivot]

nah man he mixed it up im pretty sure

[ashen perch]

and he also got in Enel's face and pissed him off too, not to this extent though, Doffy was way more mad

[royal orchid]

did you watch the bigtop burger episode

[amber lark]

yeah! Just out of pride at not getting anything from his father

[royal orchid]

happy new years also manga

[slender storm]

Oda did gaban dirty by making his last name “scopper” and Rayleigh’s last name “silvers”

[ashen perch]

but yea, God Usop, will piss off another Devil/God again

[stone tulip]

That’s first thing I mentioned cause why the fuck Oda deadass had to point this out to us in the first place if it isn’t gonna set something major up in the future.

[amber lark]

[proud pivot]

good catch ngl

[stone tulip]

No he didn’t at all

[proud pivot]

omg gold too. copper, silver, gold. thats crazy

[proud pivot]

holy sht, its gold roger. silvers rayleigh, scopper gaban copper silver gold

[fast pagoda]

Pooper scooper gyattban

[knotty pilot]

people's agendas mess with reading comprehension unfortunately

[inner agate]

sorry for reaction its rhe double tap thing

[stone tulip]

Well not pride thing but rather he doesn’t want his trauma to hold him back anymore

[round peak]

that implies one is stronger than the otehr?

[ashen perch]

Happy New Year, its the year of Usopp, a special special year

[distant vine]

Feel like this Dressrosa bounty thing ended up undercooked

[royal orchid]

usopp, the horse

https://tenor.com/view/horse-gif-6469339709570075941

[ashen perch]

Imu isnt prepared for this.

[inner agate]

if its year of the horse isnt it doc q's year

[amber lark]

But imagine the coincidence of getting teammates with those names who were also strong

[woven talon]

Happy New Year chat!!

[slender storm]

In order to cope now gaban fans gotta argue copper has more practical uses than silver like electronics 💀

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/enel-usopp-attack-gif-19390167

[round peak]

yeah his random horse ate a mythical zoan

[ashen perch]

idts, there wasnt necessarily more juice to it than the gags that we got, and then Doffy got busy with Law and later Luffy

[amber lark]

https://tenor.com/view/usopp-eneru-enel-nami-usopp-vs-eneru-gif-16683473

[knotty pilot]

happy new year!

[ashen perch]

Happy New Year!

[inner agate]

theres an even better horse

[proud pivot]

loool

[inner agate]

https://tenor.com/view/pierre-pierre-one-piece-one-piece-sky-island-skypiea-gif-3829238262147527292

[stone tulip]

I mean I was literally 50/50 on Sanji getting conquerors before this arc but considering how Oda is handling Gaban and straight up gave him so many similarities this is when I am legitimately convinced he is getting it.

[round peak]

lol that one actually got no devilfruit?

[amber lark]

Hii, and happy new year!!

[slender storm]

All thats left is Rayleigh’s son to be revealed

[inner agate]

it had one i forgot which one

[stone tulip]

Someone brought that possibility before and considering what happened at god valley with one of the reasons why the hunting game happened, Usopp’s whole existence will piss Imu off so bad, bonus point Usopp will fucking lie about him being Nika watch.

[stone tulip]

Happy new year!

[proud pivot]

dude defo has plenty of illegitimate kids already

shakky confirmed that he sleeps with many women

[knotty pilot]

yeah, and oda is literally making it so obvious😭 and this latest chapter proves it too

[digital spear]

No I wanted to watch the previous ones before to remember and im almost there

[knotty pilot]

hii, hope u have a great year! usopp will shine this year

[stone tulip]

Skypiea is one of the most hilarious arcs man lmao

[blazing depot]

I really want to see Usopp ragebait Imu, that might be comedy gold

[royal orchid]

do it another one dropped today

[blazing depot]

Especially since Imu is VERY easy to ragebait

[proud pivot]

'Silence, cretin! Hold thy tongue' or som sht

[blazing depot]

NUH UH ROCKS, DAVY JONES WASNT KING

[stone tulip]

Motherfuckers are being cooked right now for denying that Gaban didn’t have conquerors only to turn out that he did lmao

[amber lark]

Tyyyyy, and same!!

[knotty pilot]

hilarious to see ngl😭

[stone tulip]

I prefer this outcome even more than him getting power up through hammer, at least that is more Usopp like lmao

[proud pivot]

do yall think sanji would nosebleed over possessed gunko

[knotty pilot]

sanji getting conq is so obvious

[amber lark]

Skypiea was one of the worst arcs for Usopp

[royal orchid]

usopp was the goat of skypiea

https://tenor.com/view/usopp-eneru-enel-nami-usopp-vs-eneru-gif-16683473

[slender storm]

He wasnt lying when he said this 😭Ungrateful ass unc

[amber lark]

And brook!! Brook with a little haki would be lethal!!

[knotty pilot]

cooking

[amber lark]

Hahaha

[amber lark]

🔥

[stone tulip]

Like this https://x.com/toxxu_2/status/2004886379860467983?s=46

Toxxu | New Arc | (@Toxxu_2)

@Khaled71697 Smokey has Gaban vs Rocks as extreme diff fight. Thoughts?

X · Dec 27, 2025, 12:05 PM

[grand flower]

Rereading Baratie earlier this year, it’s legit all about how Sanjis a supreme king

[fast pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-imu-imu-one-piece-shark-eyes-gif-2911827045718414430

[amber lark]

😭

[stone tulip]

Usopp is gonna piss Imu off lmao

[knotty pilot]

brook's flashback with gunko will be goated

[amber lark]

lol

[slender storm]

Imu vs rocks💀

[royal orchid]

drunk usopp 🙂‍↕️

[stone tulip]

Still funny af and at least it did set up future conflict with water 7 with the Merry stuff

[amber lark]

I forgot that we still have a flashback pending in this arc, and we haven't even finished with Loki's flashback yet!! 😭

[proud pivot]

Ain't no party like a Rayleigh party

[knotty pilot]

thx for sharing this😭

[trim lily]

i think it’s safe to say this flashback is ending like next chapter

i don’t see us getting the rest of loki’s life here

[stone tulip]

Yeah I get that and hindsight there are similarities between Sanji and Luffy just like how there are similarities between Luffy and Zoro, like Luffy is meant to balance the two out and that’s why they are trio