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they’re said it’s Rocks too though , they’ve said multiple people lol
Yeah, but it's still incredibly broken that you cannot cut it
i think that both Xebec and Davy Jones are dead
one of those “ keep throwing shit at the wall and you’ll eventually get something right “ lol
No shit
Meek has the same theory
it never made sense to me
Multiple MMBF
yeah Rocks is for sure dead , Davy Jones i think he’s dead but it’s possible he’s still alive based on the tale about him
Its similar to barto barrier
Maybe Haki but no one on Dressrosa had the haki to break ts
i do think someone like shanks roger mihawk rocks etc could cut the birdcage .. Zoro on dressrosa just had mid haki and didn’t have enma to force it out for him & Fuji was sandbagging the whole time
fujitora goated tho
Mihawk definitely could
Too bad he will get domi reversi'ed
Yea i like Fuji he just wasn't as good as he needed to be unless he was holding back which is 100% possible
i think anybody with acoc and a sword is cutting that birdcage
Blackbeard could get out
Considering the glaze acoc has gotten , this is probably correct lmao
Can't break it with a bunch?
Everyone else would need Haki
Tbh I think anyone admiral level could’ve broke it tho idk what Fuji was on, tho he did try a meteor and it just got sliced up
Tbh a logia can get out 
Blackbeard would just need to get to Doflamingo to deactivate it
That birdcage got crazy plot armor
i’m sure Garp & Luffy could
i think he just let luffy do it because he had faith in him
true
Law could’ve also easily dealt with the birdcage but he was too busy fighting Doffy himself
Yea any other Logia could slide out unless Doffy decides to coat every string in haki which doesnt seem like energy efficient to me
It would have been nice if he could have broken it but it just gets restored immediately
Yeah I think it’s just a move where the user’s gotta get KO’d or shut down
Fuji was very concerned about the citizens, i don't think he would have waited if he could cut it
The only reason fuji can't break is because of plot
can't Blackbeard just touch Doflamingo to neglect his fruit powers
possible too
BB would be fine
Yeah lol I’m agreeing
yeah that or just absorb the strings of the birdcage with his darkness
BB coulda shut that shit
Yeah, nami can sneak out with her skinny waist
it would probably hurt him, a lot
it doesn’t hurt him to absorb stuff with black hole , only if the attacks hit him
Just makes it more and more formidable too lol
It’s a ridiculous feat tbh
do this to the strings/birdcage
ah
wonder if that would've worked though, given how absolutely huge the radius for the birdcage was
he would've needed to swallow essentialy all of Dressrosa
I think he could absorb the strings
He can absorb Aces fire and he was able to absorb Magellans poison with no issues.
It was when the poison hit him that he was in trouble
It needs to stay for plot purpose so fuji breaking it but it getting restored is better than fuji unable to break it.
It can be shown as he can break and escape but he cannot make others escape
shiryu's antidote came in clutch
Yea my goat would've died without it but i mean Luffy would have too.
Without Ivas help
He can absord ace fire? Didn't he get hit with fire bullets?
true
isn't Luffy more or less immune to poison now
his darkness can essentially absorb everything so strings should also be on the table since it’s just strings lol
The initial attack left flames on BB and he absorbed them to get rid of them

Yea this scene
Fuji didn’t expect the meteors to get sliced up, he was quite careless. Fuji’s meteors is like his beginner attacks atp
It isnt anime filler either
Blackbeard can absorb light
everything is anime filler
😂
such is the way of life
Strings are nothing for him
What is the difference between anime filler and anime canon?
His DF is probably the only other one aside from white beards which could actually end the world
Pulling in light is a crazy gravity feat
anime canon can only be found in your heart
Fuji could be top 5 if Oda wanted
i think there's a lot of them at this point
What if strings are infinite, even if bb absord they keep on coming back?
kinda, altough luffy almost died in wci
Which ones?
I thought it can be found in agenda
fuck agenda
Doffy can’t do this, but hypothetically, The Yami Yami would just absorb it indefinitely
Its infinite gravity
Unlike the strings
Yeah but doffy can create knots with strings. Beat that 
those which come to mind is like Loki's fruit, Magma as well as Lightning
Honestly, i think lokis was definitely an over exaggeration
Blackbeard just takes the fight offscreen
Like it wouldn't shatter the planet
Magma is possible but i doubt lightning
hard to say given we still don't know what it is
We can’t say that
paulie upscale
Doffy will pull him back to the screen by blackmailing imu 

given what Enel was capable of doing in Skypiea, i'd say it's very much possible especially if one has more experience with it than Enel had
Imu is an offscreen bb victim too

Enel essentialy created a beam similair to whatever the World Government is using
i wonder if Fuji gravity DF is infinite gravity .. i would hope so lol especially since Oda gave Teach infinite gravity and he’s a logia.. Oda also lets Law manipulate gravity with his DF
please don’t be a disappointment with your gravity Fuji
Can devon copy imu body aswell if touched?
Im speaking more in accord to real world scenarios. As of yet, no record of lightning ever wiping out even a big landmass
i doubt that she'd be able to touch Imu
Assuming she even can.
Lmao.
But its assumed so. But you can only do so much with her appearance.
Nah, Enel doesn’t have the same hype
Wdym infinite gravity?
oh well, yeah
one of the nine tailed fox abilities is being able to see memories .. I wonder if Devon will have that ability as well since it has to be different from Bon Clay DF
Wait, does mr 2 also need to touch? I forgot how his fruit works
This translation makes the implication that it has similar properties as a real black hole.
I mean yes
So the gravity inside it is boundless.
Thats why BB has a move called black hole
cooking
yeah
I doubt it does, oda sometimes exaggerate stuff.
Kizaru is supposed to move with the speed of light but he actually is not moving that fast
if she can see/copy memories then this will be a bigger deal than we originally thought
Damn you beat me
Well, yeah. But just saying that specifically what he mentions and Yami itself works like a black hole anyways.
true, imagine seeing saturn memories (he is dead so idk if she can still use it)

We gotta stop this
There are people who actually believe kizaru is moving at the speed of light.
They don't know how fast is light speed 😭
Its Oda story, you can’t say he states something but it actually isn’t what its intended to be
she can , Absalom was dead and she could still use his after he died
One piece physics just works different. It's anime logic
tierlist for every character, is it a w tierlist?
Get out
Brother
Light also can't make lasers lol
I'm not complaining, I'm just saying sometimes the one piece world is exaggerated compared to real life so we have to take into equation when considering other terms
i didn't remember that, ty bro
It's a animes orns maynga
Crazy how i can still make out kidd in the bottom 5
yes
Wait it cannot? I have seen in other series aswell doing it with photons and stuff
If Oda said gravity existed in OP, fans would turn around and say gravity isn’t actually gravity like ours.
This is flawed logic
Year of the horse girls
outside of the fact that 1 of the nine tailed fox abilities is to see memories , another reason I think Catarina Devon can see/copy memories is because she was able to completely convince Moria she was Absalom and act just like him , even called him “ Lord Moria” like Absalom
used to 🤔
Thats not where I'm going, I'm talking about infinite gravity which technically should consume light aswell. So you cannot even see light
Its just an analogy
Usually of other radiation instead of light
Im using your own logic


This single scene is what made me appreciate Moria back in the day
When Oda states something is “as fast” or “as strong” as that or this, you don’t turn around and say “well actually, it ISNT what its stated to be”
Happy birthday Oda
facts ! he stood up for his mans
Happy birthday Sakurai
even though he knew he was outmatched he didn’t care
he against kaido too
fr
No you are not, I'm saying somethings in one piece doesn't work exactly like in real world. You are misunderstanding and making a different point.
I'm stating whatever terms which is used in one piece world doesn't work exactly like how its supposed in real life. So comparing to real life is not correct is what i meant
https://x.com/pewpiece/status/2006386169022681196 happy birthday to the goat
this whole time we all assumed Teach would see God Valley through Garp memories with Pudding but that would be a cool twist if it’s through Devon copying Saturn memories since he was the only gorosei at god valley
Dec. 31st is a terrible birthday pull
the goat is 51
Oda & Ace got the same birthday ?
i think its actually jan 1
Bb probably already knows
in japan rn
That’s way better
Imagine having to wait so long for your birthday 
only problem is, you can say "i had my birthday last year"
yeah i’m sure Eris told him what she remembers but they didn’t see everything … they were running away most of the time
At least eris’s perspective
It is the same logic, because you’re taking something stated and undermining the intent, if Oda said “speed of sound”, you can’t turn around and say gravity “I mean the OP version of speed of sound” That’s not author intent. Whats the point of making a statement of speed if its different from the real life counterpart.

We will probably never see eris again, maybe I'm wrong but knowing oda he won't show her again
She’s a key part in BB’s life. She will be in his FB at least
So OP wont be over until Oda is 59
what of course we're gonna see her again
its not like shanks mom who didnt even get a face reveal
yeah she’s being saved for Teach flashback
shes significant
she likely raised Teach til he met WB
Wasn't teach like a year old? I dont think he will even remember a lot. But she's still significant
and that was a pretty long time
Bro, let me give you an example.
If someone comes to you and says, since kizaru can go with speed of light why is he not going from marineford to wano in less than second?
Because thats not how it works. You cannot compare it with real life logic just because it is stated as kizaru travels with speed of light
Eris probably told him everything she remembered
Yeah he was a baby. Thats why his mother being in his life is so important. She shaped him
since he’s their last hope for the davy clan
Eris also said Rocks wasn’t ready so she likely made sure Teach would be
don’t make the same mistakes as your father
Infants are not known for having a good memory but fs
Funny thing is when god valley started, i made a bet with mimi that shanks mom face and name will not be revealed in this flashback.
Bb mom got both but shanks mom didn't. I won the bet miraculously 
Blackbeard vs Imu with no Luffy in sight would kinda be hype
I explained the issue with your argument, please address that.
To answer your question, this can because Kizaru cannot sustain his light form that far, on top of that, Kizaru is literally just lazy. He travels on cannonballs and ships when we see that he can travel being thrown away from Islands just fine.
Yo, it’s Eris’s memory we are talking about lol
I think I would have to root for Imu even though he'd lose
it’s actually true that the younger you are the more likely you are to remember traumatic events that happened to you
"kizaru cannot sustain his light form that far"
Where is this stated?
excluding Nika would be strange
I think that's only true for ages past at least 3 years
Even without remembering the events the impact could be enough tbh
But it'll cause behavioural problems
i do like how Teach is the only one with personal beef with Imu compared to Luffy who is about to just now find out about Imu lol
Like Loki
Its an alternative to answer your question instead of the nonsensical “Well, Its not what its actually stated to be”
*Teach & Loki
Though, I think Kizaru can in fact travel island to island
Yeah, your headcanon is legit and others are nonsensical 
He just doesn’t
I guess Vivi will have beef whenever Wapol talks
I just said that was an alternative?
I don’t think he can’t
Bro you cannot simply counter others speculations with another speculation. You talking like you have evidence to negate what i speculated
Teach probably knew about the HKs before he joined WB due to Eris .. it’ll be funny if his fight with Shanks in the past happened while Shanks was wearing the HK outfit lmao
Can you? Really?
Your interpretation is more unrealistic to author intent, I gave you a more plausible alternative one I don’t even necessarily believe in because I think Kizaru CAN travel in his light state, like he straight up shows being able to fly https://hot.planeptune.us/manga/One-Piece/1092-010.png
It was just before he went to Mariejois, because he had the bandage on his eye
Bring me the evidence to negate my speculation or don't bother with your own speculations
yeah but when we saw him in mariejois with fisher tiger we don’t know how long he had been there … the wound he got was pretty fresh so it happened within the last couple days (Oda doesnt keep bandages on long after a battle/injury )
Why do you think Kizaru cannot travel to different islands as light
Kizaru’s casual suggestion to roll up on Wano kind of implies he can just zip around
Mihawk fans you gotta admit this is clever
Because they exaggerate stuff like this in every series when they say they travel with speed of light or faster than speed of light. It doesn't literally mean they go by that speed. If they do that whitebeard won't be able to catch kizaru like this
If Greenbull can cover the terrain of wano, Kuzan can cross areas with Ice, Karasu can travel to islands in different seas with his soot crows, why couldnt the light man
So, how many essential flashbacks are left in one piecd
3 at least
You are just saying this because you cannot comprehend this is a manga about superhuman characters
You also can’t generate earthquakes with fists
You also can’t stop ships with one hand
Joyboy, Shanks and Gunko?
Flawed logic
yeah Logia’s arguably have the best abilities for transportation lol
Brother its your interpretation vs mine
Stop talking like you have evidence and yours are facts and mine is headcanon. We both are interpretations
Bro what
I have evidence
You are just saying nuh uh
The logic is flawed because this is a manga with supernatural abilities and superhumans
Greenbull flew all the way to Wano wit just his logia lol
he didn't
Sure you do. All you said is this when i asked where its stated. I still don't see you providing any evidence
Blackbeard over Gunko. I’m sure we will learn about her, it’s just probably not going to span multiple chapters. Although you could do BB and Shanks together since they are related by fate. In that case, Dragon
Why are you still onna about that ONE point where I gave an alternative that I told you I don’t even believe in
All I said is its more realistic than yourd
from what we see he did , he called for a battleship to be sent to Wano cause he didn’t want akainu knowing he went & CP0 didn’t know he was there til he i intercepted their fall
Assuming that the guy that was waiting for him on the navy ship was Akainu, I doubt that would be a long flashback
i was responding to someone else, but who cares
Greenbull traveled Wano which quite literally a collection of islands together with their own seasons
Its essentially japan
Most major villains do get a flashback. Now I'm not sure if it'd be long but given it's Akainu
BM had a decently sized flashback i think
also akainu seems to have a brotherly relationship with kizaru
Again, you think yours is more realistic. Doesn't make it is true.
I can also think mine is more realistic. I will repeat again its your interpretation vs mine
Yep
Kuzan can freeze a continent of ice and travel the seas with his logia , Greenbull & Karasu can fly with their logias , Kizaru can do whatever he wants with his .. Oda needs to show other logias traveling with their DFs , it’s always goated panels
Also I just wanna see what convinced the WG to ask for Boa to be a Warlord.
Yours isn’t realistic because it requires disregarding author intent
Smoker awakening incoming
I gtg have dinner, if you are still here after i came back we can continue
Kizaru can probably fly across islands Id say yeah
Smoker in the big 2026? My boy
Ace powering his wake board was always so cool
didn’t Ace & Smoker use their DFs as well to travel their boats/motocrycles ?
Because knowing what the Celestial dragons did to her and her sisters, it should've been a viseral rejection
Not convienent tho
No dont waste my time repeating the same thing
empress of amazon lily probably
Why her particularly?
i assume Enel can travel the seas as well with his logia , Teach the only logia where i don’t see how it would work with his element lol
It doesn't seem that she was grandmothered into the program
I mean, they would invade with their ships
Yeah Enel travels through clouds
She’s strong and easily controllable after WG had tech to cross the calm belt
unless he can somehow use the gravity of his darkness to travel but idk how that would work lol
bcs she it the empress of amazon lily currently, and she wants to protect it
It also gets the Marines off the Kuja Pirates backs at sea
imu's a gooner
I assume maybe if he awakens he can like, pull himself towards an object
My question is, when we're seastone hulled ships became more common to be able to do that?
Cuz bb pulls things towards him but it should be the reverse
the furthest i can see for Blackbeard when it comes to transportation is if he could travel through shadows or something
yeah that makes sense
peak
lol he gotta work his way to top 30 first
I just got to s of SBS questions I wanna ask Oda
Smoker does have armament smh
“Zehahaha bye bye luffy”
Smoker already has Armament
definitely not in the air
You mean CoC?
Holy peak
He does?
Oh shi
All he needs is his awakening then
Yeah
I just wanna ask Oda if Ulti will get the hammer
lmao honestly … a gravity black hole DF should be able to do this .. whatever game this is was thinking big brain EARLY on lol
Oh well
cause it’s a black hole appearing
i don't think that's a black hole
and sucking him in (pause)
Have you considered that games are canon via Oda playing them?
Black Holes are theorized to connect to different parts in space
He will do this
Oh yeaaah he used it against vergo
This is how it’s correlated
Teach description of what his darkness is is literally what a black hole is lol
There's no theory like that lol, scientists don't know what happens at the singularity
The physics breaks down
so i guess that game is saying he can create a black hole with his darkness and it can pull himself in instead of other things
One of them will be about seastone hulled ships as to when Vegapunk perfected the technique and when it became widespread among the navy
i don't think he made that portal
it's probably someone summoning him from elsewhere
it’s him lol
since it looks more like a rift in space rather than a black hole
it’s a pirate warriors game story mode
Im not saying they know with certainty.
pirate warriors did he same thing
hes not a holy knight blud
BH’s are still pretty undefined
had him traveling through portals with his darkness in wano
The theory is that black holes cross into other universes, not somewhere else in space. There’s a lot you can speculate with limited info
For a "theory", you need evidence unfortunately
when pirate warriors made their own wano storyline before Oda did lol
Thats not the point
Lol
Sure, it's fiction
Scientists give a lot of possibilities and work to research those possibilities
And asI stated, the celestial dragons are too stupid to set up a canal underbeath Marie Geoise to go to the other side of the red line
not really, he just appeared
A theory always starts with a “What if”
It’s hypothetical. Watch more pbs space time
imagine usopp shooting with seastone 
Dawg, half of the things about Black Holes come from dumbass journals milking stuff
I screenshotted this earlier to stimulate discussion but I actually got nothing rn
I heard black holes just crush stuff that go into them
usopp with ragnir and seastone slingshot is top1 5 in the verse
True
safe assumption, given nothing that goes in a black hole ever comes back
basically meaning Oda potential is limitless with what he can do with that Darkenss power
facts
The point is that Blackbeard can have blueno-like travel under the idea Black Holes connecting to other worlds/point in time, whatever
Wormhole are what people think of
Because that was theorized
Some of it comes back as hawking radiation
But they have yet to even be feasable
more stakes/deaths in one piece
Because you need to create negative energy
I grew up reading physics and sci fi. Every article and answer from actual physicists regarding stuff like this ends with “We dont have the answer yet"
But true ig
It's interesting to think about
no way people are talkin abt hawking radiation in a discord server about one piece
its so broken that its can do what a black hole does as one of its abilities
I could comment on the deaths but that feels too easy for me
yeah
maybe not stating important information in sbs
Fyi, the OP magazines has a dedicated guide that talks about Black Holes and its relation to Blackbeard
Theory lessons exist
a dedicated guide?
They're both eternally hungry
Ye i can find it
Getting back to one piece, I just wonder if we're heading back to the present or still in the flashback?
prob present
I do feel that we don't need to see the shanks vs Loki fight as of yet
One more flashback chapter. Two at most
where is lola tho
Wait for the shanks backstory for that
You are doing the same 😭
You only started it despite me asking to don't bother
That feels unnecessary to me
why
It adds nothing that we don't know already
They have this wizard guy talk about how things work in the OP world and gave a whole lesson about Black Holes
This server is not oda meat riders though, i see criticism when there is. Although i still see some oda worshipers time to time who believe oda wouldn't do anything wrong 
Different zoans/minks
More logias
More bounty hunters
Thats about it for me rn
my least favorite thing about OP is the fake out deaths, I dont mind that he doesnt kill characters but the fact that he does fake out deaths it's like he wants to have the cake and eat it too
Lola is a good sbs question
i disagree but respect your opinion
Oh yea, putting zoro’s family tree, kidds backstory, and hanafuda in a fuckin sbs
I assume kidd is returning tho
oda lwk a misogynist
we're 100% getting back in 1172 I feel
Low key?
Hanafuda wasn't really allat relevant
fr
oda highkey a misogynist
But his design is tuff 😡
Yea big moms battle iq just disappeared in wano
also queen being franky's dad
He wasn’t but he was a provider for beast pirates
It would’ve been cool
I would critique oda for having gway too much silhouettes at this point
does stuff like this matter for the narrative though
That feels like a fakeout imo, but if it is true yea
I don't think it hurts to cut him out
Although i dont think franky nor queen would care
But kidd was weird
i don't really care about zoro's family i couldn't tell you how he's related to wano i just know he is and that's enough to make his wano arc work
Silhouettes in final saga is a crime
Which is why it doesn’t need to be in the story. It’s just for us. Same as Zoro family,m
Facts not only did kidd unite with all the gangs but he had their leaders follow under him
The man could show us what Loki's devil fruit is in chapter 1170
Like we needa see that
And it would be still impactful
Do people honestly care that much about zoros backstory or family? It'd start the lineage piece Convo all over again
Especially when Zoro himself doesn't care
For now, it wouldnt hurt to learn a lil bit, especially since zoro had to give up shisui
anyways tom is franky's true dad
Well yes
oda just wants to write a ruyma flashback
we're already in lineage piece
I wanna see his family
Very nice colors
theres no stopping that fact
We are
I wanna see pinzoro
No denying that
He did that already
nice art
Before he even wrote one piece
Queen recognized judges son but didn't recognize his own son 
facts
at least its realistic
Look at franky, he's barely the same person lmao
99% of the important people are born into important families
just like the real world
in queen's defense franky is now a 10 foot tall robot
You all aren’t ready for Nani’s lineage
I think Nami will end up with another lineage
We all come from
One piece
He has blue hair, how many people have blue hair
Which will be important
For me, Knowing who's Luffy's mom is is more impactful because it gives a lot more context about dragon's character
I think nami is royalty perhaps 🤔 or fishman 👀
Quite a lot in one piece actually
fr😭 tom is franky's dad anyways
Would he recognize if he like the old one?
Like who?
probably not but plausible deniability
Dammit
nami would make sense because of the clues we have but with zoro he should just be from some peasants
Teech’s mom is the only one who matters because he is bizarro Luffy. Everything is opposite for him
Lowdakenuinely
They never crossed paths
buggy
i'll be using that thank you rokaya
Franky and Queen have never been in the same panel together
Vivi, ulti, iceberg, Charlotte family has two as well, buggy
Even as a group?
Oda says the story with Nami's parents would've been way too mature to deal with or something like that
Gunko now
Off the top of my head
Different blue 
There's probably more
nefertari franky
Buddy, you asked blue
It's blue even if it's slightly different
Is buggy queen’s son 
I’m pretty sure no , if anything it would have been in the giant ice oni hall before the ice oni’s started happening but Franky didn’t stick around for long after he smashed a motorcycle on big mom face
Buggy would suit as judge son if not for age 
I asked franky blue 
Aother question, Laughtale or Lodestar after Elbaf
cant be Laughtale
why?
Damn, you guys have the whole plan layed out for wano. Are you familiar because of that wano map someone used to do?
They both funny
buggy goated
We are going to vira
I feel like Lodestar because it would make a great staging area to set up the final trip to Laughtale
I used to keep track of placements and timeline more lol
Wait hold on, you were the guy on reddit??
No lol
"An island where only the pirate king has been to"
Are you one of those memory kid?
Only two candidates
I only stick to yapping here
earl you gotta change your name to earl of reddit now
Emerald City
Aw hell naw
They is no such island where only pirate king went.
His crew also went with him
the biggest proplem with both islands are they are probably empty so no conflict or stories. Most likely a short stop at lodestar and then a final battle/war on laugh tale
it can only be Lodestar, finding the burn scar man has become a pre req to getting to Laughtale
We dunno anything about lodestar
.... You know what oda meant by that
Oda means the afterlife. Luffy dying this year
Oda doesn't mean much about jump festa, he doesn't follow what he says in festa in the same year too

roger said that no one had been to lodestar for 800 years so im just gonna guess its the same as laugh tale
wait whats the island that Roger met Rouge on, its totally that one 
Most likely we're finished with Elbaf by the end of next year
That was vira
Yeah, but it could be a populated island with its own story
Say that to arsal, he has all years jump festa and when it happened timelines
was it?
ofc like wano it could be populated and with its own proplem, but im more moving towards theese two islands being empty
Still no update on this stupid egg
that's luffy bro

the egg is just gonna be where Roger sleeps atp
2024's jump fiesta is quite accurate
And oda admitted that his health is messing with him
btw is no one upset about all the strawhat crew except luffy and zoro(maybe sanji) being useless for the upcoming battle on elbaph?
We'll see what'll happen next
Gol D. Roger met Portgas D. Rouge in the South Blue after disbanding his crew, spending his final year with her before his execution, during which she became pregnant with Ace, though the exact island or specific encounter details are kept mysterious in One Piece, emphasizing their secret, important bond.
I think island was not specific but google ai can be wrong
Why does that matter. Does usefulness determine value?
i honestly hate it, "moar acoc to beat down mid powerful characters" instead of them just being powerful with no regen and each strawhat having a battle
What did he say in 2024?
Gonna hit the interviewer with this on the next job application
gunko was affected by brook's presense tho
"Rouge was living on Baterilla in the South Blue"
Maybe there yeah
well but we know that she has the same mark as harald so thats not gonna change anything
Yes.
Unrelated, but could you go to the corner store and get me a Coca-Cola. Cherry flavored, if you please.
the new franky va i feel bad for the guy
Are you expecting ANYthing outside of this
Its very clear that Haki and by extension Acoc will be the main way to hurt bigger opponents now.
We've been like this since NW lmao
Is the man hes talking about shamrock or rocks?
Imu
it was Shamrock
am i expecting the straw hat pirates to be fighting the next set of villains on a new island... yes.. heck yes why wouldnt i?
Oh duh definitely imu i was confused by the “that man will stir up the world” cause it didnt apply to shamrock
Right now l, looks like Brook will be the key of knocking Gunko out of Imu's control
it wasn't Imu, the calm was already broken by the point of Imu's arrival on Elbaf
doesnt have to be in 2026. we dont know which man stirred something up in the world
It would be Imu
Imu clearly is doing that
Oda was talking about post-Wano stuff in Jump Festa 2019
hes doing that in Elbaf
Stuff that happened in 2022
^
oda is not a trusted source for the story so be careful
And Imu REALLY wants to control Elbaf
wouldnt surprise me if the Imu situation in Elbaf needed more than 30 chapters
I expect it to be done by July at least
Who say that wouldnt be the case?
yeah nah
should have tried pukes
should have tried myrrh
What could they possibly be doing for 30 chps
i got myrrh third try
That's like one more year 😭
Fighting?
damn skill issue
I think that's a huge overestimation
Oda plz.....I want final war and laugh tale and usopp power up and EVERYTHING. Just hurry up and give me everything Oda.
Especially once loki joins
I hear this all the time and then stuff needs even longer than what I said.
Wanna make a bet
only nerds and old people have done that
what are you
No. I said it could happen
Alright
After the flashback. I think maybe 10 to 15 chapters
well given the current status and info about current fighters they are immortal and the only thing that can slow them down is acoc, so where does that leave the rest of the crew
It's just the fights left
maybe some usopp pop greens
he's a bible scholar.
nerrrrrrddddd
next he'll find frankenscence, or however you spell it
this was last year and we still havent seen the "abnormal phenomena in other oceans" and the "man shaking up the world"
so maybe we dont go to lodestar next year
we havent even seen the one from 2 years ago either
I heard this word broke so many peoples streaks 
I think the abnormal phenomenon referred to the sea levels rising
That's the only thing that'd make sense
Didn't the ocean level rise by a meter?
how is that possible if the reveal and the sea level rising happened before that message
Wait that's before??
how long has the sea been rising?
Damn
I'm surprised they didn't kill all people in baterilla after finding out that rouge is from baterilla
yeah
Yes
That day...." I cut it" " the five elders form 800 years ago made a mistake "
darn water taking it's sweet ass time
What did Lili "cut"
what good would that do?
One Piece Legend & Next Mini Magazine
https://cubari.moe/read/imgchest/9ryd2drxa4k/1/1/
Also there is a map of Mary geois
fully translated
What good would killing everyone related to roger do?
Yup! Most interesting thing I found was this
what's in this?
What is this? Is this canon or missiles?
i'm scared
does anyone know what they're talking about here?
edit from the future: it was fake apparently
how are random people on Batterila related to Roger? Rouge would also be dead already so, its pointless
It's basicly a detailed recap of everything from the past year or so also has snake man concept art
OH SHIT ODA'S BIRTHDAY IS TOMORROW. HAPPY BDAY YOU OLD FART!
Fair but my statement is more of a sarcasm on mocking marine system for killing everyone related to roger even children
it's a collection of a bunch of stuff from this year in one piece and some cool exclusive oda sketches
someone post the art
@brittle basin
Where was this posted?
"A heroic and tragic ending"
Tcb
oh i forgot i saw this already
Rocks Haters punching the air rn
Probably the untranslated version ?
imagine hating rocks. there is an island to send these people to
yeah but now it's translated is the thing
Just posted?
Yeah
happy birthday to oda :)
happy birthday everyone, I know you were born today
can someone trasnslate the illustrations into English for me? /s
about 10 minutes ago
But I can't read (my neighbor's blind dog typed this message for me)
Like the actuall published guide book for these chapters?
Who's a good boy?
what ⁉️
Lol diverse ambitions

I AM (the dog's tail - me, i'm the dog - is wagging)
guide book?
Anything useful which is not already in manga?
most interesting one for me is a bird's-eye view of marijoa
Where was that page published?
Where's my boyfriend
vs
Where's Rayleigh's girlfriend
vs
Where's my family whom I love
Wocks
I wouldn't believe this is harald after only seeing that bald frame in the current timeline
TCB posted a cubari link to their updates bot, it's on pinned
''Rocks is a villain''
hes literally a good guy lmao
Ohhh
He's the hero of the story
We summoned Penny
the main character
The MC of the flashback
Oh great they released more garbage complementary material for people to take as canon

Road to laugh tale 2.0
Where's rayleigh's girlfriend 
Who makes this OP magazine thingy and how do they ensure the info is correct when Oda is so busy?
Rocks and Luffy are the best MC's ngl
Penny how do you feel rn?
Your anger sustains me
How do I get access to. The update bot?
I feel fine knowing it's made by some editor
But people will take it as canon
Hard to see much of anything we don’t already know
Is this the one you talking about? 😭
Its not even a proper view
their website has a link to it I think? I'm not sure I didn't set up the discord bot
kinda hard to find agendas against rocks because domi reversi is just cheat code
Wait why
Domi Rocks still looked pretty cool
Than it says something about the goresei 809 year ago
rocks haters are a rare breed ngl lmao
"A heroic and tragic end"
I meannn it is a rough sketch
Yeah
Vira soon
What that change tho to the rocks haters lmao
I need something. To fight them off!!
Best character in one piece 
these might be worse than vivre cards
its forced.. its more about hating just to hate without logic or reason
They are
It's thanks to these we have Vira believers
I wouldn’t use magazine wording tbh
Tbh do vivre cards have concept art included?
So I do expect the moment we go up to see what's happening in Marie Geoise, we'll see Dragon's backstory
The main villain
He is a good father and husband 
irreparable dmg
Magazines, vivre cards, other databooks all have the same fluff
Rocks haters only exist because they were mad at 99% of the fan base liking the same character
He definitely died heroically imo this just confirmed that even the editors feel the same way as me
Based on the manga
Its nice to be vindicated
Like that would be the perfect time to reveal it
Buggy has the same problem sadly
And what his devil fruit is
i can see the small crowd hating the gooning but it was a single panel
The JJK editor is the root of all evil
wait is this a phrase from Lili?
He's gotta go
You have buggy fans and the people who still think he’s a gag character
No villain dies like this btw
Really good page
THAT PART
Don’t reply to him
Yeah I'm pretty sure that's her quote but idk if it is tho it's a big ass reveal
is buggy not a gag character?
A villain would NOT have died like that
I think I liked Harald’s conclusion better
He’ll drag you into a stupid rabbit hole
in Rocks's final moments, he smiles
A true D. member
But Rocks was still good
I bet when Blackbeard strips Imu of their power's the Gorosei outside of Garling are going to get the Saturn treatment
Oda's magnum opus of 2025
Yep died with a smile and everything
Anime rocks flashback gonna go crazy
He's amazing character WITH top tier Gags
Goated character
do people genuinely believe Rocks is a good guy lmao
Typical rage bait
Seriously
Because Imu showing up in Elbaf is just an indicator that they're going down in this arc
He was a great person
A good guy is bullshit he was a pirate
A good man tho most definitely
The lengths people go to defend him attacking 5 year old Loki...
This spread made up for the other one
In comparison to other pirates rocks was definitely more neutral good

I feel like stabbing children makes you a pos no matter how much you cut it 😭
I don’t think he’s a good guy but I don’t think he’s a bad guy either
rocks is a man.... he is a man
15 year Loki **
I would've shot that lil nigga
You don't change a dog's age cus it ages different
We saw Imu fully take over Saturn after he used that Fused Form
I wonder if Imu will use that Fused Form on Elbaph and appear through Gunko like he did on God Valley
Which is 5 in human years, yes
doesn't mean it's the same 5 elders as now obviously but it could mean so much
Lili might've already been fighting a full set up organization
Him attacking him shouldn’t be defended but he def stopped
Loki deserved it
It wasn’t a usual thing
There was context to both I would say
Although it doesn’t justify it
Loki wears ts like a badge of honor if he likes it i love it
Naaa that's just not how it works plus he was 50 meters tall. If a kitten that was that huge threatened you it could still kill you
Like he’s gonna stay as Gunko with the Imu eyes until he fights Loki and Luffy and he’ll change into the blob
bro kept going back for more
is this AI
Yall be grasping at straws hats
literally deserved
Exactly
the first 2 frames are peak

Im not defending Rocks im just saying I would've knocked that lil nigga on his ass too
You old enough to talk shit you old enough to get yo head knocked off ya shoulders
Like people are forgetting he's also like 59 meters tall and actually dangerous
is stabbing someone like Loki the equivalent of slapping a childs face
Children are almost all but defenseless
Bro ran at him with bad intentions
If it were me I would've shot his big ass
Loki was not
I forgot, when did he say this again?
Saw this theory on reddit 
1076 I think
Exactly
ah
If he was a regular size human it would be completely different bro is literally bigger than most giants at 5 or 15:
This was all over Facebook
Damn arsal appeared as soon as i posted usopp slander post
Facebook 💔
Wait nvm he was here before
forgot that lol
From long back or recently?
yea I am just reading the mini mag
Newborn Loki literally ripped a bears head off
Like probably a week ago
Hes a freak of nature
This!
Meanie shanks
Like big mom and shit
I wonder how many extra minutes oda takes every time he draws a closeup of shanks
No one was calling. Jarul evil cus he was going to kill big mom
This is said towards kidd pirates right
yea
all i'm saying is Loki clearly enjoyed it. he went back for more
Loki is a freak of nature similar to big mom
Arch-nemesis 
do you think what he did was too far tho
Me too, nothing which we don't know 
You have to ignore all context to think this is even remotely comparable
Nope
Ohhh
This too it's like he was waiting for rocks to show him up cus no one else would or could
How.
I thought you was leaving
Loki attacked rocks
Sengoku just didn't like Garp ig
That chapter was special
Damn powerscalers nitpick stuff like these from magazines 
I can't help it
The darkness is too alluring
Big mom was literally five in real years lol
Wdym real years
Why else would i read it. These are great
Lets be real, Rocks could have done way worse
between these two men who crossed fists
I thought roger is swordsman 
he could have sliced his arm off
You know giants develop 3x slower right?
Rocks did far worse things than hitting loki, child abuse ain't even making top 20 in the list 😭😭😭😭
"as if they were children" the gas is insane
This whole giant years shit is bullshit you would still naturally mature from living
It's not bullshit
It really is

All the Elbaf kids are like 20 and they behave like 6 year olds
I typically hate oda did that stupid shit
its 5 billion
And then ida told him to "choose better friends"
I wont accept anything below 5 billion
They obviously develop 3x slower too

Yeah I think this was such a bad choice on oda part
they did NOT #CountTheTeeth
Narrator casually mentions the destruction of the gate of justice
LOL Roger is just fist guy like Garp confirmed 
The anime confirmed that he faked his death
Like do they have to experience more to mature 
Its so over
Idk do people learn from development or experience? If you keep a kid in the house till he's ten and another ones working the ones working is going to mature quicker
The logic is flawed
Are u baiting or is this fr
I don't follow anime
Its been real
Aka life experience matures tour brain over aging
Same will go for shanks 
He actually managed to survive it lmao
Saturn heroic comeback in Eblaf is coming
He's getting medical attention from the vice admirals
Heroic huh
Hes going to get payback and become a Nakama fr
It's like one of the dumbest things oda has been done if you ask me really it just doesn't add up on paper at all
No shit?
He tanked this btw
Bonney is such a great example
Damn, tanked two gear 5's
Impressive, Saint Saturn!
Maybe its just a physical thing, not mind thing
You know people talk about the Gorosei using some sort of conq armor
But the attacks shouldn’t work
Thats basically G10 when you think about it.
If that’s what they did
It is a mind thing
I mean idk cus the 20 year old kids on elbaf don't seem to act older
Your brain is literally not fully developed
not even kaido could beat one gear 5
saturn upscale
Databookbros will overlook this calling the HKs their strongest fighting force over the Marines 
Maths
Yeah this magazines can feed agendas for days
Kaido wished he could tank 2 Gear 5s at point blank
Regen save
Maybe because they are pampered 

At the same time
Kaido would literally get bodied if he tried fighting two gear 5's
hes not lasting 5 seconds
Kaido team rockets Saturn
Gorobros have never been more validated till now
but Saturn came back when Luffy flung him
so that doesnt work

"Comparable to his" finally a good translation.
Is this the one people were sharing earlier with rough translation that sanji is equal to zoro?
lmao
you think they're stronger than admirals?
Kaido will make sure to use conq
You know what you right. How old was Harold and broggy and dory when they were kids attacking shit?

I have this
I would wear that on ugly sweater day
I think theres 3 people in there whio are stronger than the admirals
Why do they have the SH icon plastered alongside a Gorosei ugly sweater 😭
although they do not usually act on the surface, their true combat power is top-tier
Oda is trolling surely
no he isnt
It’s dialogue fluff
its not Oda
I ain’t taking it seriously
"Comparable to his" can still mean they are equals. Also Sandman used the word "equals" so 
''Top tier''
It’s mostly comments on the manga itself
looks at Garling's performance at GV:
Using magazines for agenda is truly shameless

he was just a baby
As if he didn't fight fucking Rocks out of all people lmao
a 19 year old child
Press X to Doubt
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I'm not sure how old they are 
wheres the saturn one
No, it can be translated as equal too
I forgot you are sanji fan 
Top tier (hypetools)
@pine scaffold
@pine scaffold
ICE 🥶
oh wait Saturn lmao
Who wrote these? Editor?
i need to read properly
YO WAIT WHY ARE SATURNS LEGS LIKE THAT
Did they get the OTPC model for Saturn lmao
they arent like that in the manga or anime
Saturn prob has the best design among the five

The older five
