also-manga

[rose rune]

shit cellphone camera tho

[steel stirrup]

I pray to Nika he does

[ornate tartan]

biggest crash out in last 5 years

[fallen meteor]

With regen it kinda confirms him getting it

[ornate tartan]

i’m already seeing pre ordered cope

[fallen meteor]

If thats the only counter

[warm fossil]

life will be so good when one piece ends and sanji still doesn't sniff acoc

[pine scaffold]

guaranteed

[final trench]

I mean its too late to know the truth now

[alpine trench]

"no diff"

[rose rune]

"conquerors has nothing to do with being a conqueror or having a strong will, you simply need to be fucking strong and want it"

[steel stirrup]

If he doesn't get it they'll laugh

If he does get it they say "He doesn't deserve Conq"

I aint tripping

[pine scaffold]

auto correct

[scenic dirge]

It’s basically guaranteed now ye. Oda made it too intrinsic to defeating the bad guys

[indigo yacht]

He’ll need to awaken the latent conq somehow

[stray pulsar]

Luffy will make haki knots for his crew and they will use them to finish off God’s Knights. That is why knots were introduced

[pine scaffold]

Gaban having it was the final nail in the coffin

Gaban is literally Sanji but older

[indigo yacht]

Haki knots… knots… rope… wait a second

[prisma yacht]

usopp for conqs

[scenic dirge]

Uncji

[steel stirrup]

Same with Usopp

If he doesn't get a buff or a power up or has his big moment, the haters will laugh

But if he does, they'll still cope

[ornate tartan]

don chinjao and katakuri have conq

[fallen meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-onepiece-op-shipwright-galleyla-gif-14307171370581128788

[ornate tartan]

they can cope

[pine scaffold]

wait can I say Gaban is Sanji upscale

[indigo yacht]

Lend me some haki knots oden, this is base Lucci we’re up against

[steel stirrup]

Yessir

[scenic dirge]

Nah that’s illegal. If you say that you get banned Sb

[ornate tartan]

gaban is dope for the mere fact he uses axes

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/ralph-wiggum-the-simpsons-simpsons-i'm-in-danger-im-in-danger-gif-12212469452113785130

[fallen meteor]

Joyboy's Zoro put his haki inside the blade or something

[ornate tartan]

everyone else got a sword

[steel stirrup]

Yea i like seeing blade users who dont use traditional swords

[indigo yacht]

Kozuki Joro

[prisma yacht]

glad gaban got a good va

[warm fossil]

ngl both Rayleigh and gaban are pretty nothing characters

[scenic dirge]

Can’t wait for Zoro to upgrade his CoC because he’s dogshit at it currently only for Sanji to unlock that same level immediately coz he has to

[steel stirrup]

I watched some reactors on YT and some of them already guessed Gaban but Toei kinda gave it away with that face shot

[pine scaffold]

Gaban would have solo'd Elbaf if Colon didnt say anything

[craggy vapor]

I didn’t know that. Looks like I missed a lot.

[fallen meteor]

Fuck i forgot I was going to watch reactors

[shadow knoll]

look at me car

[prisma yacht]

😆

[prisma yacht]

Owwowie cat

[fallen meteor]

We need a spear user in Elbaf

[ornate tartan]

old man is tough

[steel stirrup]

I try to watch the ones who actually pay attention to dialog

Its a few reactors who deadass never pay attention unless a fight is happening or a strength statement is dropped and I hate ts

[ornate tartan]

all rayleigh does is drink and bluff

[warm fossil]

with only a tiny bit of luck we won't have holy knight fights at all this arc

[pine scaffold]

Gaban is more active than Rayleigh rn

[distant vine]

Wdym by upgrade

[scenic dirge]

I mean upgrade

Coz he’s dogshit at it

[prisma yacht]

So based

[fallen meteor]

Sword ☑️
Hammer ☑️
Shield ☑️
Axe ☑️
Gun ☑️
Spear...

[distant vine]

Whats there to upgrade lol

[alpine trench]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-dunk-lebron-james-levronjame-gif-1038771198631298897

[scenic dirge]

Become more proficient. Use it properly. Etc…

[distant vine]

Its an on off switch

[steel stirrup]

There are these reactors, the channel name is RTTV and bruh one of the dudes deadass falls asleep unless a fight is happening on screen.

[warm fossil]

actually using it for one

[prisma yacht]

I don't think we have to worry about the monster trio getting power ups tho

[alpine trench]

rob?

[scenic dirge]

Indi it’s been emphasized that Zoro’s current proficiency with it is awful

Bro didn’t even know he had it

[golden valley]

Honestly yeah

[pseudo gulch]

Happy birthday King 🧎‍♂️

[golden valley]

Imuko wouldve been the issue tho

[steel stirrup]

I dont know their names

The darker skin heavy set guy with glasses

[golden valley]

So not really

[pine scaffold]

yeah not counting Imuko

[fallen meteor]

Is it harsh's birthday happy birthday @alpine trench

[pine scaffold]

Gaban would have slaughtered the rest tho

[alpine trench]

a few months away but its my mom's birthday tomorrow

[pseudo gulch]

Nah it's LeBron's birthday lmfao

[fallen meteor]

Oh wait is it Lebrons

Oh

[pseudo gulch]

[steel stirrup]

LeBron????

[fallen meteor]

Lmao LeBron and Roger share a birthday??(

[steel stirrup]

Oh shit it is

[pseudo gulch]

The kings share a birthday

How poetic

[scenic dirge]

My uncle’s birthday as well but I guess nobody cares about that 😔

[steel stirrup]

Coincidence???

[warm fossil]

roger be desperate for attention

[ornate tartan]

this mf road always callin someone ultra rare😂

[scenic dirge]

Shout out my uncle man

[steel stirrup]

I THINK NOT

[ornate tartan]

buddy’s cooked

[alpine trench]

fun fact, my mom and oda were born only one day apart literally

[pseudo gulch]

Is your uncle the leading scorer in the NBA history

That's what I thought

[alpine trench]

oda's birthday is january 1st

[ornate tartan]

😭😭 👑

[alpine trench]

1975

[steel stirrup]

Can your uncle dunk?

At age 40?

[shadow knoll]

same as you then

[prisma yacht]

😭

[steel stirrup]

Does your uncle have a championship ring?

[scenic dirge]

Nah but he can grill a mean pork chop

So

Yea

[warm fossil]

damn harsh your mom is younger than mine yet you're like 40 years older than me 💔

[steel stirrup]

😂

[fallen meteor]

W uncle happy birthday to him

[pseudo gulch]

Tell him to throw something on the grill for LeBron's birthday

[alpine trench]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-disappointed-mythic-stream-fortnite-gif-6136848449896824636

[ornate tartan]

era of his archetype is over
now we got 7’3 skinny kids who want to shoot

[steel stirrup]

As a Thunder fan that nigga is SCARY

[scenic dirge]

He’s grilling a steak in the shape of LeBron

[fallen meteor]

Nobody gave a shit about this but its very interesting

[steel stirrup]

The only team we lose to is the team with the 7'6 alien

[fallen meteor]

All kinds of weapons

[warm fossil]

Nika uses a spear no?

[pseudo gulch]

Where did he find a goat shaped steak??

[scenic dirge]

Akron Ohio

[shadow knoll]

who's the most suitable candidate for a spear

[steel stirrup]

😭😭

[scenic dirge]

The holy land

[fallen meteor]

Yeah but he isnt on elbaf

[steel stirrup]

This nigga Evan is hilarious

[warm fossil]

who cares about elbaf

[steel stirrup]

Me

[pseudo gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-stream-ishowspeed-stream-speed-nod-gif-1082323842437565509

[warm fossil]

said nobody ever 🙏

[scenic dirge]

I’m funny wtf

[steel stirrup]

He on a roll today

[shadow knoll]

@pseudo gulch

[scenic dirge]

[golden valley]

Wano should’ve been skipped

[shadow knoll]

[pseudo gulch]

What's up

[distant vine]

Zoro and Luffy stancing together was so hype

[sly belfry]

-saturn 4seconds before dying

[steel stirrup]

Loki has one on the mural so fuck it give it to him

[scenic dirge]

Skanda jumpscare wtf

[shadow knoll]

cook up some blasmephous slander, it's pretty boring

[sly belfry]

hi

[scenic dirge]

Hello

[shadow knoll]

so does that giant beside loki

[pseudo gulch]

Imma be honest I don't feel like slandering anyone or anything today

[warm fossil]

ain't no way were a day away from 2026 and people still think current characters appear on the mural

[steel stirrup]

Thats two already see we're fine

[fallen meteor]

I was saying it has everything at the moment

[stray pulsar]

Loki loses hammer to Usopp and starts using a spear confirmed

[fallen meteor]

All those weapons ate in LeBaf rn

[shadow knoll]

johto lost his mojo

[fallen meteor]

LEBAF lmao my brain

[steel stirrup]

Its open to interpretation

[warm fossil]

it's really not

[steel stirrup]

Ok

[warm fossil]

thank you for understanding

[distant vine]

Spears are lame though

[alpine trench]

imu and emeth are definitely there

[warm fossil]

ok that doesn't count but yes

[fallen meteor]

With the Longarms and thr Longlegs the future mural theory kinda dies down
Unless we get more islands

[steel stirrup]

Oh now it doesn't count

Ok

[golden valley]

Gaban is the best thing to happen in elbaf tbh

[warm fossil]

well yes it's character who lived 800 years ago lol

[shadow knoll]

what's the reason behind your assumption

[pseudo gulch]

It has to be spontaneous, just wait until the next chapter drops

[alpine trench]

there's no possibility of a character travelling back in time

[shadow knoll]

yeah, if oda doesn't reveal loki's df, im going to japan

[steel stirrup]

It's a piece of the past that gives a glimpse of the future but ok

[warm fossil]

the fact that the mural obviously didn't just skip the second world especially since it talks about the third world as if it's not yet happened

[pseudo gulch]

Get your tickets now then

[alpine trench]

i think the mural is the depiction of the second world

and the war between joyboy and imu

its obvious

[golden valley]

Tho, I think the second war reflects the third in setup

[steel stirrup]

Valid theory

[shadow knoll]

im sorry i don't understand wym

[alpine trench]

its a group of children drawing that fuckin thing observing the events around them and also from hearing stories about what's going on around the world

[golden valley]

We’re getting a recreation of the second world only that’s happening in the third

[prisma yacht]

Ah man I love one piece

[steel stirrup]

So I guess that disqualified it from being a possible glimpse into the future

[golden valley]

It is a glimpse

[warm fossil]

it is a glimpse into the future because it'll repeat itself the characters are just different people

[golden valley]

Its legit setup

[ornate tartan]

monster trio of elbaph school

[steel stirrup]

That's all im saying

Mr. Blade

Oda just running out of names atp

[hot cairn]

it’s so funny that this is exactly what’s going to happen

[ornate tartan]

strongest swordsman of elbaph

[golden valley]

I forgot how Sanji learned haki, I think Ivankov implied they taught him

But I wouldn’t be surprised if Sanji had an easier time learning than Zoro

[rose rune]

he generally does if you really think about it

[shadow knoll]

what abt nika and loki, then

[warm fossil]

Loki wasn't alive 800 years ago

and Nika isn't depicted it's joyboy

[golden valley]

Never forget

[prisma yacht]

Lol

[craggy vapor]

that’s so funny

[prisma yacht]

Prolly some other giant who also had the same df as loki if going by that theory

[hot cairn]

bro didn’t even know he had it

[pine scaffold]

I have a question

I wanna see animation highlights of episodes

like specific work done by certain animators

is there a way to do that

[hot cairn]

harsh can help you with that

@alpine trench

[alpine trench]

Sakugabooru

[distant vine]

Knowing he has it isnt an upgrade to me

[pine scaffold]

Oh okay

[distant vine]

Thats just, knowing he's got it

[alpine trench]

https://www.sakugabooru.com/post?tags=one_piece @pine scaffold

[pine scaffold]

Tysm

[hot cairn]

Gaban specifically told him that not knowing he has it and using it is a waste of it

[pine scaffold]

I wanna see Vincent's work all together and also others so

[alpine trench]

https://www.sakugabooru.com/data/163721105adb5f48fd722305970f0df8.mp4

[alpine trench]

You’d love this cut sb

[pine scaffold]

it's really good but it makes me depressed

rip Saturn

[shadow knoll]

nah fuck sturn

bum ass villain

[pine scaffold]

At least Saturn had free will

[alpine trench]

[pine scaffold]

I do wonder how Saturn was able to do this, now that we know Imu can take you over

[hot cairn]

who animated this btw?

[golden valley]

He has so much aura

[pine scaffold]

Saturn will always be my fav gorosei idc

I love his design

[golden valley]

Nisjuro and warcury design wise>

[hot cairn]

my favorite Gorosei is Garling

[fallen meteor]

Was saturn legless

[fallen meteor]

Like he died and we can't see his leg bones

[pine scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-egghead-opening-saturn-saturn-one-piece-gif-2978316880459797664

[fallen meteor]

But we can see everything else

[pine scaffold]

LOOK AT THIS AURA

[alpine trench]

Shoutarou Ban and another unknown animator

[hot cairn]

rip bozo

you won’t be missed

[pine scaffold]

Man OP fans are so toxic

jk jk

[fallen meteor]

Got me thinking on why they did it like that
On the manga we see torso up but on the anime we can see everything but the legs are missing

[rapid ridge]

Mamma mia

[golden valley]

I wish Imu possessed Saturn looked cooler tbh

Lkke Imuko

That was our final moments with saturn

[pine scaffold]

OH SHIT WE ARE GONNA GET SATURN/IMU IN THE ANIME SOON

[golden valley]

And he was reduced to a black blob

[pine scaffold]

thats something to look forward to

[pine scaffold]

gonna see him in void century

[golden valley]

Possible

[fallen meteor]

Soon in like

[pine scaffold]

oh wait

[fallen meteor]

Uhh

2027?

[pine scaffold]

OP schedule changed

[golden valley]

2 years

[pine scaffold]

bruh

[golden valley]

Ju Peter in his sandworm transformation has cursed gifs istg

[craggy vapor]

this is kind of accurate

[pine scaffold]

I hate the noise he makes in the anime

its like a weird ass groan

[hot cairn]

That’s probably going to be like in 2027

[pine scaffold]

ik 😭

Man

Yo wait what if the anime does a Rocks D. Xebec opening

FIREEE

[craggy vapor]

btw how can Mihawk be the strongest swordsman if he didn’t face Nusjuro before?

[pine scaffold]

he didnt face Harald either

Harald was a swordsman too

[graceful grove]

didn't know he existed

[grand flower]

Gotta remember that this is a story

[craggy vapor]

Harald was a swordsgiant, not a swordsman.

[pine scaffold]

cant make that excuse for Harald, he is a well known king across the globe

[grand flower]

Mihawk being the strongest swordman is a narrative you gotta apply suspension of disbelief for

[graceful grove]

when Mihawk offers to fight Zoro for the title, Zoro will refuse. he will smirk and tell him there is someone already stronger than Mihawk

[craggy vapor]

also Harald is dead, what hell of an argument is that

[hot cairn]

Mihawk fans won’t like that statement

but you’re right

[tawny panther]

my only gripe with the whole “ worlds strongest swordsman “ dream of zoro is he don’t even try to fight the strong characters who have swords .. bro was with Law on the same ship for over a month , Law got a cursed blade as well & not even once did Zoro talk to him about swordsmanship or try to fight him

[grand flower]

I say that as a Mihawk fan

I mean that in the sense of

[tawny panther]

but he did with Kinemon when they were on the same ship lol the same kinemon who got neg diffed by Law

[grand flower]

If you’re asking “how do they know theyre the WSS without fighting EVERY swordsman”

[graceful grove]

that's because Zoro knows Law is not a challenge

[tawny panther]

that’s cap

[dense pike]

holy reddit 😭

[grand flower]

It reminds me of what Harrison ford told mark hamill back in the day

[pine scaffold]

Mihawk was alive when Harald was around bruh

[grand flower]

“It ain’t that kind of movie kid”

[graceful grove]

it's almost 2026, leave the likes of Law and kid behind

[tawny panther]

he challenged and talked to kinemon about it but not Law … Law already whooped Kinemon

[pine scaffold]

Mihawk is older than Shanks

[tawny panther]

it’s almost like Zoro doesn’t consider Law a swordsman

[craggy vapor]

Law fights with a sword, but he’s no swordsman. He’s like a Paladin type dude who fights with swords and magic/hax.

[grand flower]

Law is a swordsman

OP is a world where swordplay can be magic

[tawny panther]

yeah that’s what i’m thinking , Zoro doesn’t view him as a swordsman .. that’s the only thing that’ll make sense

[grand flower]

Kaku says “my legs are swords”

Zoro goes with it

Shamrock says “this monster with blades in its mouth is still my sword”

[tawny panther]

he’s a supernova just like you with a bigger bounty and a cursed blade and on the same ship as you but you don’t ever talk about swordsmanship with him. nor do you challenge him . but you did with Kinemon

[grand flower]

Fans drawing lines between swordplay and magic are missing tje point

It’s like saying Tekkai isn’t a martial art

[craggy vapor]

not everyone who has a sword is a swordsman y’all

[grand flower]

This is a magic fantasy world

[grand flower]

If you

1. Don’t become a worse fighter when using a sword

2. You use a sword on the regular

You’re a swordsman

That’s the only criteria the manga has ever given is

Everything else is fans getting complicated to protect Shanks’ push

[craggy vapor]

Vista is a (superior to Mihawk) swordsman.

[distant vine]

I mean, he fights to maim or kill

So challenging just anyone would be kinda crazy

[cold steppe]

It has nothing to do with shanks. Marineford happened. If anything fans getting complicated about Marineford to protect mihawk's push

[grand flower]

Not even remotely true

Fans just have a horrible sense of powerscaling

[distant vine]

Also aiming for Mihawk and fighting anyone who comes along his way simplifies things

[tough igloo]

he doesn’t , when he challenged kinemon due to be a swordsman from wano , he wasn’t thinking about that at all . he just wanted to see how good kinemon was , he could’ve did the same with Law if he viewed him as a swordsman

[grand flower]

Vista fighting with Mihawk is a vista upscale

Not a Mihawk downscale

[red lagoon]

Right

[distant vine]

But I cant lie, Zoro vs Law would have been hype

[grand flower]

OP fans are inflammatory and disingenuous tho

[red lagoon]

That just means vista is strong

[grand flower]

So instead of “Vista is stronger than we thought”

[tough igloo]

Zoro reacting to seeing Law use his sword for the first time .. bro ain’t even know what to call it but not swordsmanship lol

[grand flower]

It’s “Mihawk is weaker than we thought”

[red lagoon]

Who woulda thought a commander of wb crew is strong

[grand flower]

Zoro reacted like this csuse law just switched Tashigi and smoker’s hearts and they passed out

[craggy vapor]

Oda when he sees fans arguing about his series.

[tough igloo]

VEY hype ! especially around the time when Law was with the straw hats .. that could’ve been a nice fight and would’ve been the strongest person with a sword that Zoro faced since Mihawk

[grand flower]

Zoro didnt challenge Kinemon

He wanted to see how a samurai fights

He wanted to watch Kinemon in action

[red lagoon]

I ask this a lot

But ppl who say shanks isn’t a swordsman I don’t get how

[grand flower]

It’s cope

Nothing about it holds up to OP logic or even basic logic

[red lagoon]

I get why some ppl try argue if law isn’t or is a swordsman

But shanks?!?!

I don’t understand how there an argument against it

[stray pulsar]

It’s stated that Mihawk and Shanks dueled so it’s safe to assume Mihawk is near Shanks level of strength

[red lagoon]

No no shanks is near Mihawk…

[stray pulsar]

That’s the same thing

[inner agate]

isnt it great how mihawk is the skillest swordsman

[red lagoon]

The way it’s said matter

[distant vine]

Law is definetly a swordsman

[tawny panther]

Zoro probably doenst view him as a swordsman and that’s fine & reasonable .. everytime zoro has seen Law fight he’s doing shit that ain’t got nothing do with swordsmanship lol

[distant vine]

Zoro wouldnt engage in that cope I feel

[red lagoon]

Law deffo a swordsman

[distant vine]

He does call out King but also recognizes he may not use swords sometimes

[tawny panther]

i’m not saying he is or isn’t i’m sayin based off how zoro views it based off what he’s seen from Law

[red lagoon]

An example of a df user who uses a sword who isn’t a swordsman is bm

[craggy vapor]

Law isn’t a swordsman. He’s a haxman.

[alpine trench]

this is a funny panel in context of the entire thing

[tawny panther]

Zoro has never seen Law do anything. related to swordsmanship

[stray pulsar]

Law should’ve fought Chopper as they are primarily doctors

[tawny panther]

he’s seen Law teleport & do internal damage with gamma knife and swap people personalities ..from his perspective that’s not a swordsman, he’s never seen law actually fight with his sword using swordsmanship

[remote maple]

I got that lego set it's peak

[tranquil blade]

Just Jarul and Loki huh

So I guess Shanks and Gaban never told anyone at all that they were there

[pine scaffold]

@alpine trench This site is so good

[distant vine]

Jarul is seemingly unconscious

So Loki may have told Shanks and Gaban to scram

[alpine trench]

such a good introduction, and with kenjiro tsuda's voice this goes so hard

[distant vine]

And then when people came over Loki told his story

[tranquil blade]

They hopefully will keep that voice actor for Shamrock

[stone terrace]

Shanks VA is an old man

[pine scaffold]

This is such a cool detail

I NEVER NOTICED THIS

ik its nothing crazy but it adds a lot

[distant vine]

Gunko's legs rubbing together like she's cold lmao

[tranquil blade]

Well it is snowing

[pine scaffold]

and shes basically wearing nothing

[stray pulsar]

I just realized the reason Gunko looks so good is because her body isn’t insanely proportioned.

[heady smelt]

I never paid attention to that but it's just her outfit that is really different from the way Oda draws girls usually, no??

[craggy vapor]

that will change once she is freed from Imu

[distant vine]

Lol I think the anime made him sound harsher

[ornate tartan]

luffy isn’t gonna change who he is

too honest for that

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/nappa-tfs-dragon-ball-z-abridged-protect-my-image-gif-17981932900369954140

[pine scaffold]

This scene was so random

didnt like it at all

[ornate tartan]

he doesn’t hide anything

he’s a open book

[pine scaffold]

I remember everyone complaining abt that scene when it dropped

[frozen aspen]

unfortunately the lack of pants ruins her design

[pine scaffold]

Gunko sucks

Sommers fans on top tho fr

[frozen aspen]

honestly if her shirt was a little longer too look like a dress it would have still looked fine

but it's deliberately drawn short enough to show off her panties

[frozen aspen]

Oda you can't draw fat thighs and butts to save your life cut that shit out

[pine scaffold]

I forget this guy is actually related to Jupeter

wild

[tranquil blade]

He's such a funny character

[pine scaffold]

Hoping we get more Sommers greatness in the present

[tranquil blade]

He even does the "😂✌️" in that one panel

I think he really is comically evil

[vapid flower]

I could beat sommers

[pine scaffold]

I hope he doesn't die bruh

[alpine trench]

spent several minutes staring at this

monumental spread

[tranquil blade]

He's definitely gonna die eventually

[pine scaffold]

just not in Elbaf I hope

EOS is fine

[craggy vapor]

since Kizaru is light, can he travel in space to other planets?

[alpine trench]

doesnt work that way

[vapid flower]

Can’t smoke in space so no

[ornate tartan]

barley has any

[craggy vapor]

u can stare a couple more minutes

[pine scaffold]

I like them both

Gunko doesnt hit the same tho

[hazy echo]

https://x.com/opcom_info/status/2006018711333810679?s=46

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X · Dec 30, 2025, 3:05 PM

[fallen meteor]

Sommers is prime "does in elbaf"

Dies

[fallen meteor]

I just see two

The kids were not prophetic

[pine scaffold]

Why does every character I like die

[fallen meteor]

Unless you wanna argue Loki leaves Ragnir ( W Usopp) and Luffy meets longlegs and longarms kingdoms soon

[fallen meteor]

You like villains man idk

You kinda need to expect that

[warm fossil]

because you like characters that are waste of ink

[elder kraken]

No because Enel and his minions will jump him

[runic dock]

I’m not even gonna ask

[runic dock]

You pick flashback characters that clearly aren’t around in current time ?????

[pine scaffold]

I picked Saturn?

[runic dock]

Idk why you did that tbh

[pine scaffold]

cuz I like his character

[craggy vapor]

I consider Enel’s moon story non-canon nonsense from Oda. You can’t breath on the moon and the sun would fry you.

[ruby cape]

RIP SATURN 🙏

[pine scaffold]

Saturn was incredible man

[runic dock]

You like Orochi types?

Please say you loved Orochi

[pine scaffold]

Hell no

[royal orchid]

As for Saturn...
That man...

Never...
...Existed.

[pine scaffold]

Didnt like Orochi

[runic dock]

Then that makes no sense

They’re the same person

[pine scaffold]

Saturn is a better Orochi

[tranquil blade]

Saturn isnt really an Orochi though

[runic dock]

Was a dick just to be a dick , overpowered mythical zoan that made him hard to kill

He really was

[royal orchid]

Saturn is a Kaido

[runic dock]

He had no personality outside of being a dick

[royal orchid]

not an Orochi

[tranquil blade]

Well he was a dick because he sees others as literally not human

[pine scaffold]

well he was crying about Ohara

[runic dock]

Biggest misread of a character since Varys in game of thrones

[pine scaffold]

so he isnt always evil

[runic dock]

Orochi for similar if not equal reasons , while different

[royal orchid]

I was doing a taco is a sandwich reference

[runic dock]

So far I don’t see big difference

[runic dock]

Oh lmao

[craggy vapor]

Saturn’s mistake was that he was a scientist.

[tranquil blade]

He sees them as animals, and the mythical zoan doesnt matter too much really, Orochi still was largely not a threat on his own while Saturn clearly can fight

[runic dock]

Saturn also not a threat , thwarted from reaching Robin by the weakest strawhats

He’s exactly the same

To me at least

[pine scaffold]

Saturn was a massive threat

[tranquil blade]

Well to you maybe

[pine scaffold]

he brought all the other gorosei there lmao

[runic dock]

Not really , I just gave an example of how he wasn’t

[pine scaffold]

hes responsible for that

[runic dock]

Weakest strawhats held him off

[pine scaffold]

He wasnt trying

[runic dock]

Wow have a cookie lmfao

[tranquil blade]

The weakest strawhats arent weak though

[runic dock]

What a non feat

He called the phone lmfao

[pine scaffold]

Saturn literally defeated Sanji in one move

he wasnt trying against the SH

[runic dock]

Comparatively

[craggy vapor]

There is no Orochi push agenda. Tells you how much of a garbage man he was.

[runic dock]

They don’t even have coating to thwart an immortal

Still punked Saturn

[royal orchid]

kurozumi was born to burn

[fossil nimbus]

shiki went from being rogers greatest rival to an afterthought

[pine scaffold]

if Saturn is able to one shot Sanji, then its obvious he wasnt trying against the SH

[runic dock]

Saturns only good moment was when he came back flying like a disc

[craggy vapor]

i think the title belongs to Garp

[runic dock]

Still was a rival after god valley

The flashback isn’t focusing on that tho

New facts don’t delete old facts

Like wtf

[red lagoon]

Bruh

[pine scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/sanji-eye-diff-gif-2670273086102703364

[tranquil blade]

Shiki is very powerful but unfortunately not super relevant

[pine scaffold]

Sanji couldnt move AT ALL

after this btw

[craggy vapor]

retcons

[red lagoon]

Saturn was holding them down after that

[tranquil blade]

Similar to Kong probably, except Kong is just boring

[runic dock]

Doesn’t apply here

[pine scaffold]

yeah thats what im saying fr

[royal orchid]

these chats when sanji got eye diffed were pretty funny

[runic dock]

Oh yeah the bullshit power Saturn did once and then never again when it could’ve helped him

Fantastic

[tranquil blade]

He did do it a few more times

[pine scaffold]

He did it tons of times after tbh

[runic dock]

To luffy which always did nothing

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/saint-saturn-vs-luffy-saint-saturn-eye-attack-saint-saturn-saint-saturn-eye-diff-saint-saturn-eye-attack-vs-luffy-gif-11519266868743348638

[pine scaffold]

Luffy was bleeding everywhere

[fossil nimbus]

just saying. WB, Garp, xebec, they are still critical parts of the story and oda gives fans a reason to actually care. Shiki hasn't been relevant to the story in any way, his relevance was at MF when we found out he was the first person to escape, but Oda hasn't given fans any reason to care about him.

[runic dock]

Not bleeding

[tranquil blade]

It did do a little damage, but Luffy is also literally one of the strongest on the planet

Like okay the guy that fought Kaido can take the hit

[royal orchid]

100 toei animators vs not turning everything into a black and red lightning

[fossil nimbus]

I think it was said somewhere that shiki was rogers greatest rival. The same thing was said for xebec iirc

[runic dock]

Regardless of any of this , what was said in the past about him just compiles with what we see of young Shiki before the Roger rivalry stuff , so what?

[blazing depot]

I remember seeing a tweet a few weeks back saying One Piece has peak animation and the whole video was 10 seconds of just impact frames. Like epileptic

[royal orchid]

the impact animation mickey bread slice video

[red lagoon]

Op does have peak animation

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/impact-frames-gif-15327828572735441141

[runic dock]

Xebec and Roger rivalry is assumed between, flashback didn’t really go into that

It pivoted to xebec and Harald clashing

[fossil nimbus]

just saying, oda hasn't given fans any reason to care about shiki even though he was rogers greatest rival, compared to people like wb, xebec, and garp. idk why you pressed about this it's literally true. He might give us some shiki stuff in the future, but rn we haven't gotten anything

[blazing depot]

Yeah but a video of nonstop impact frames doesn’t show it

[runic dock]

I’m not pressed , I just don’t see why this is any kind of point , we already got Shiki info before and got some new stuff in the flashback

[fossil nimbus]

just using this

[runic dock]

Yeah that’s fine , xebec deserves that , it doesn’t really take away what was said previously tho about shiki

Nobody talked about xebec after he died

[tranquil blade]

The reason Shiki doesnt have many fans is because of partially his personality but also because his peak as a pirate is in a time period largely unseen with him in it, he is not really the focal point or even present in a lot of stuff besides chapter 0, even though he was a huge deal as a pirate

[fossil nimbus]

i'm just saying. Oda hasn't given fans anything to make shiki relevant to them. And I compared shiki to other roger rivals to show how oda actually made them relevant to fans

[craggy vapor]

Shiki is a pre-TS Luffy victim. I know it was a non-canon movie but it still happened.

[blazing depot]

I assumed Shiki and the rest of the former Rocks Crew were like a rogues gallery to Roger

[runic dock]

Non canon movie power levels

[tranquil blade]

and he doesnt make it to the current day either which also means he just gets less time

[runic dock]

Didn’t really count in discussion

[red lagoon]

If it’s not canon then it didn’t happen

[royal orchid]

shiki is a movie character oda forced to canon and gassed into the rocks pirates can I get a

[blazing depot]

Like no one is saying Poison Ivy or Riddler is the same power level as Batman

[red lagoon]

U don’t ask for it just happens

[runic dock]

Yeah that’s a good comparison tbh

[red lagoon]

Oh hell nah

[royal orchid]

pin this

[tranquil blade]

Shiki got much closer than the likes of Captain John or Silver Axe or something, bad luck is what basically stopped him from being the 4th emperor of the sea

[fossil nimbus]

do you guys think we'll get more shiki stuff in the manga

[tranquil blade]

No

[craggy vapor]

no you can’t say that. The casual One Piece fan doesn’t read the manga and doesn’t know what canon and non canon even mean. To them everything in the movies happened and Oda has to consider that in his story telling.

[red lagoon]

Oda doesn’t make the movies tho

[blazing depot]

I think Strong World is the sole exception where Oda made the script and made tons of concept art for it

[fossil nimbus]

I think in GV, Oda made it so wb, kaido, and bm were the main pirates of the era. Then shiki, captain john, etc, were the extra pirates in that era

[blazing depot]

Totally it’s the most similar to the main story cuz Shiki and his crew are fucking weird

[craggy vapor]

but he writes his manga. He won’t bring Shiki back cuz he is a bum that got his ass kicked by pre-TS Luffy. It’s shit, but it’s the reality of the situation.

[blazing depot]

Compared to aura farming badasses like Z and Bullet

[tranquil blade]

I would agree they were overall more successful than him for sure, but he also was standing right next to people like Kaido and BM during the flashback too. The main reason he doesnt get more is just because he doesnt make it to the current day, and because he also had no interest in helping Rocks

[blazing depot]

Why is Toei obsessed with tall Nami?

[craggy vapor]

Oda retconned Roger’s greatest rival. It’s Garp now.

[fossil nimbus]

I'm talking about this panel. Kaido, bm and wb were the main pirates, then shiki, etc were the secondary pirates. And roger was in his own league

[blazing depot]

Shiki is Wang Zhi level 💔

[royal orchid]

it wasn't a retcon I think sengoku is just a Garp hater

[fossil nimbus]

I mean, xebec and roger did also fight a lot

[royal orchid]

he was jealous he couldn't go to GV and Garp got all the credit instead

[tranquil blade]

Same guy Blackbeard needed help against btw

[warm fossil]

shoutout my goat whitebeard

[tranquil blade]

Dont sleep on him just cause he's a little ugly

[royal orchid]

isn't shiki snot ball level

[strong wadi]

I sleep on both him and bb (but not because they're both ugly)

[warm fossil]

shiki is mr 3 level

[craggy vapor]

yea but Garp and Roger became friends to the point that Roger entrusted Ace to Garp before his execution.

[tranquil blade]

Blackbeard is him buddy

[royal orchid]

is shiki even Ms Goldenweek level let's be real

[strong wadi]

He's only him off-screen. I will await ACoC and a 3rd df before giving him proper props

[tranquil blade]

I cant believe I'm the one who has to defend these people, I never thought it would be me that has to defend Wang Zhi

I thought someone else would do it but if I dont do it, who will

[warm fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-marianne-marianne-one-piece-little-garden-baroque-works-gif-5153328004248253629

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-marianne-marianne-one-piece-girl-baroque-works-gif-8764871875439379557

[strong wadi]

Wang zhi doesnt deserve defenders, unlike Barbel

[warm fossil]

greatest one piece character ever

[heady smelt]

I'm happy he did because Sengoku is a liar anyway

[tranquil blade]

We are not defending this disappearing fraud

[craggy vapor]

you’re a Wang Zhi defender?

[strong wadi]

You'll rue the day we learn he's burnscar

[tranquil blade]

It would be Sunbell if the burnscar is a fishman

[royal orchid]

barbell's only feat is looking good with mutton chops

[tranquil blade]

Barbell shaved his fire hair that was aura loss

He lost aura without even fighting

[strong wadi]

Barbel has a reason to be burned

[pulsar timber]

Blackbeard is a fat bitch

Carried by genes and legacy but it can’t even carry him to a real ring

[blazing depot]

My view of Teach after this flashback is that he has the same ambitions as his father but zero honor

Like there’s no line he won’t cross for his goals

[strong wadi]

Barbel is in the important panels, y'all aint ready

[urban lodge]

Fate merchant

[blazing depot]

Only thing of note he did was shave his head for Shakky

[tranquil blade]

He beat Wang Zhi thats enough for a real ring, and he's about to beat Shanks's ass

[pulsar timber]

He needed kobys help

Mickey Mouse

[tranquil blade]

Wang Zhi is tuff man idk

[pulsar timber]

70 year old wang zhi>emperor Blackbeard

[urban lodge]

Lend me some strength Koby and Law, this is 80 year old Wang Zhi we're up against

[stray pulsar]

We don’t really know how strong Teach is because he is so underhanded. He is probably still stronger than Luffy

[hazy echo]

Why not

[tranquil blade]

80 year old Wang Zhi would mid diff Zoro this isnt slander

Plus BB has gotten stronger since then

[craggy vapor]

I mean he saw his kin slaughtered as child and his father’s plans go up in smoke and his father forced to turn into a killing machine.

[strong wadi]

Barbel made the cut and isn't a Moria zombie, y'all just aint ready

[urban lodge]

He is a Moria zombie tho... maybe

[tranquil blade]

Look who's in the middle

Just saying

[urban lodge]

There was one that looked very Barbell-shaped

[blazing depot]

Captain John got more characterization tho

[strong wadi]

He's defeated

[blazing depot]

And he became a zombie

[tranquil blade]

Barbell is a fucking corpse man lets stop this

[strong wadi]

Yes, he got more characterization cause he cant be shown later

[tranquil blade]

He's DEAD

[blazing depot]

Token Fishman

[strong wadi]

And Wang zhi isnt? You think he wouldnt have a df BB didnt want?

That BB let him escape?

not very real HIM behavior if so

[tranquil blade]

Well no because Pizarro has his fruit

but Barbell died to like some shitty supernova probably

[craggy vapor]

Kaido stole that weapon from Alvida.

[strong wadi]

So basically you're jealous of Barbel, the truth comes out

[tranquil blade]

Barbell's legacy is at best rivaling Hanafuda

[strong wadi]

"Why did my goat Wang Zhi die and that fraud Barbel get to live?"- Avery

[tranquil blade]

He's irrelevant, he's a bum

Barbell not even a top 3 fishman

[craggy vapor]

did Barbel speak at all in the manga?

[tranquil blade]

Like 2 lines

[urban lodge]

Wang Zhi's name carries more aura than Barbell's entire existence I'm afraid

[stray pulsar]

Is Barbel from One Piece? I have no idea who that is

[urban lodge]

See

[tranquil blade]

He's the fishman of the Rocks pirates

[strong wadi]

He got less attention in the flashback becasue he'll get more attention in the present day

[golden valley]

Wang Zhi sucs

[tranquil blade]

He shaved off the little bit of aura he had

and for what

[blazing depot]

From Guy Fieri to Bobby Hill

[royal orchid]

most fucked up fade in the grand lime

lime? lime 🍋‍🟩

[strong wadi]

All i know is y'all mf better not ping me b4 I read the chapter when it's revealed Barbel is burnscar

[craggy vapor]

how can he shave fire?

[tranquil blade]

I dont know how he did it

but he did

[stone terrace]

The fishman marked by flames doesnt have the same ring to it

[vapid flower]

@strong wadi barbel is

[tranquil blade]

What do you mean by that

[pine ridge]

grilled fish filet sounds good tho

[craggy vapor]

stop making me hungry

[craggy vapor]

jokes on you. I don’t like sweets that much

[royal orchid]

1 blocked message

[blazing depot]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-mod-discord-4chan-reddit-gif-12469709983918782970

[tranquil blade]

This reminds me that I've never eaten a pie before

[strong wadi]

When man "marked by flames" actually just means barbel regrew his hair and not a burn scar

[tranquil blade]

This is a good gif

[stray pulsar]

I’ve decided Dragon is the burnt man, his ship is like 60% black so it’s close enough

[tranquil blade]

I can hear the music

[craggy vapor]

Maybe Barbel’s “hair” is just real fire.

[tranquil blade]

Burnscar man is unironically more likely to be Hiriluk than Barbell

I'm not even joking

[blazing depot]

I’d be so pissed if Hiriluk came back

[tranquil blade]

That was supposed to be a meme theory from me

[icy wolf]

barbell makes the most sense rn

[blazing depot]

Somehow he returned

[strong wadi]

Now you are just showing your true disdain for Barbel, which you have 0 reason to have

[icy wolf]

by far i think

[tranquil blade]

You're gassing him up to be something he's not

That's why I have to hate on him

[craggy vapor]

rise above hate

[pine ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/invincible-are-you-sure-akira-where-is-omni-man-get-out-of-my-head-gif-9494609351232958674

[strong wadi]

Smh, you acting like I'm on the same level of Socrates with Loki

[tranquil blade]

Every action has an equal and opposite reaction

[strong wadi]

Another believer

[icy wolf]

hes a fishman, has fire-like hair, we didnt see him on god valley, wasnt dead on thiller bark

[strong wadi]

It'll be funny when it's revealed Barbel and Sunbell are brothers and they together are Burnscar man

[blazing depot]

If you want to see real fake hype look at all the Ragnir memes

[barren token]

You don't have to argue with Adam about this

[tranquil blade]

Well you're not that extreme, but youre also not a teenager so I wouldnt expect you to act like that

[barren token]

If he's saying it's barbell that's just all the confirmation you need that it isn't

[strong wadi]

Cunk and arsal joining chat at same time is sus

[pine ridge]

ragnir is top 30 in the verse

[blazing depot]

Yeah but do you really believe that

[ashen perch]

Barbell is probably gonna be a former Mera Mera user who is dead already

He wont matter

[barren token]

🐿️ ?

[tranquil blade]

Chipmunk

[barren token]

Wait arsal thinks it isn't barbell

Ok now im confused!

They cant both be wrong

[tranquil blade]

Well they could be

[ashen perch]

I also think the Earth isnt flat

[pine ridge]

yeah and top 30 is an underestimation

[tranquil blade]

Well the earth might be a square then

a cube

[strong wadi]

unfortunately, your one piece opinions have gone off the deep end

you are back to genshin impact level arsal

[tranquil blade]

Homeless man calling another homeless man broke

[ashen perch]

well I simply say what I think Oda will do

[ashen perch]

Although I do like most of my ideas still

[strong wadi]

That's what everyone said when I was the only man to know that Hawkins was talking about himself when talking about the 1%

[ashen perch]

like Shanks being Joyboy's descendant, thats a good one

its gonna happen

[icy wolf]

joyboy being a figarland rat

[strong wadi]

no, the figarland is from the dad side

[tranquil blade]

I remember you said something else about Hawkins in Wano too

[strong wadi]

supposedly joyboy is from the mom-side

[ashen perch]

yeah, this is about Akamami

[strong wadi]

Well, unfortunately Hawkins had character growth that the audience was unaware of

[barren token]

Cancelled out by thinking Hawkins healed the scabbards

[ashen perch]

the mysterious faceless red haired mother of Shanks, who also is from God Valley

[tranquil blade]

If Joyboy is another red-haired I might really lose it

[ashen perch]

so Shanks gets the Joyboy's descendance from her

[strong wadi]

I made the hawkins healing scabbard theory based off him acting on knowing he's the 1%, but he decided to do the exact opposite of what he did all series and leaned into the 1%

[ashen perch]

have you seen the image

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/omori-basil-omori-basil-omori-basil-no-more-basil-gif-25494884

[tranquil blade]

Arsal I'm afraid

What image...

[ashen perch]

you know the one

[stray pulsar]

There are like 30 generations between Joyboy and modern One Piece. Similarities wouldn’t last that long

[ashen perch]

one of Oda's very first drawings of Pirates...

[strong wadi]

Dw he'll have the classic shanks red hair color gradient and also have an eyepatch. It'll be revealed Shanks was purposely trying to lose his eye to resemble joyboy but BB was too weak to accomplish this feat

[vapid flower]

put the imu mark on my heart

[ashen perch]

Pictured here:
Rizeru at the left
Monkey D. Pao on the right
Eyepatched, Red Haired Joyboy, lets call him uh, Shandor or something, in the middle

basically

Rizeru is the FIRST Nami Oda ever created, Pao is the FIRST Luffy Oda created

[strong wadi]

So middle is the first zoro he ever created, which is why zoro lost an eye

i see, i see

[ashen perch]

no its not Zoro...

[stone terrace]

What this tells me is zoro is related to shanks

[ashen perch]

Zoro wasnt even gonna be in the crew

[vapid flower]

Zoro is Joyboy

[pulsar timber]

Would be dope if joyboh looks like this

[tranquil blade]

Are there still believers that luffy descends from the shandians

[pulsar timber]

Are we expecting joyboy to be a monkey d or naw

[ashen perch]

Zoro doesnt even exist in that prototype

[ashen perch]

yea for sure

[strong wadi]

Im sure a good portion think this

[stone terrace]

Unfortch

[pine ridge]

lily, figarland shamks and joyboy

[ashen perch]

a Monkey D was the first mate of Red Haired Joyboy, thats it

[pine ridge]

or davy jones maybe

[stray pulsar]

The D is either Joyboy or Davy related

[urban lodge]

After the Davy clan bs...

[ashen perch]

no Zoro here

[tranquil blade]

Joyboy being a monkey d would be horrible

[pulsar timber]

Rizzeru

[urban lodge]

Rizzler

[ashen perch]

this is the first ever prototype of One Piece btw

[tranquil blade]

Like just awful predictable writing

[pulsar timber]

Why is it awful

[strong wadi]

Okay but what if he’s a descendant of Imu

[pulsar timber]

Imu clears joyboy

[ashen perch]

Joyboy isnt a Monkey D. He is the ancestor of Shanks

[stone terrace]

the stage was set once luffy ate joyboys fruit

[pulsar timber]

Imagine losing to farmer nations

[tranquil blade]

because it means Luffy descends from the guy, so not only does it mean Luffy is the next Joyboy he's also now his descendant? Idk how that isnt bad

[tranquil blade]

Those nations had Kaido level fighters

[strong wadi]

God, this convo is making me have bad thoughts due to the recent magazine or whatever

[pine ridge]

figarland binks? or would it be from his mothers side

[ashen perch]

mother's side

[vapid flower]

that’s not even Nami Oda didn’t learn how to draw another woman until water 7

[stray pulsar]

The 20 kingdoms were made by the slaves Joyboy freed. This will be revealed eventually

[strong wadi]

Mihawk and shanks having a “fated” rivalry…

Mihawk being an Imu descendant theory…

Shanks being a joyboy descendant theory…

[pulsar timber]

False

[ashen perch]

I mean yeah

this is obvious

[pulsar timber]

What

[strong wadi]

Oda making all the same missteps of his peers

[ashen perch]

Mihawk is the Imu to Shanks's Joyboy

BB is the Davy

[trim lily]

that’s an incredible comparison

[tranquil blade]

Mihawk is evil?

[ashen perch]

yeah he sucks

[tranquil blade]

Well actually he kinda is evil

[ashen perch]

did you see how he bullied those poor Krieg Pirates

ultra mega evil

also he was mean to Perona

which was worse

[stone terrace]

Id put him in the not a good guy camp

[urban lodge]

But then he told her to stay safe

[craggy vapor]

I read Shakky’s Joyboy and I thought why is he posting perverted stuff in here.

[stone terrace]

Mihawk is probably in the same camp as xebec

[ashen perch]

well he isnt fully a monster I guess

[strong wadi]

If Mihawk was “evil” he and shanks would have a worse relationship

[tranquil blade]

Mihawk only cares about his disciple and his ex boyfriend

[urban lodge]

Mihawk isn't that bad comparatively, at least he doesn't harm civilians

[ashen perch]

true...

[alpine trench]

i like the idea of shanks and shamrock specifically being joyboy's descendants and garling then integrating joyboy's bloodline into the world government, only for shanks to defy that

[strong wadi]

Crocodile

[stone terrace]

He was the marine hunter

That could be skewed

[ashen perch]

you get it

[stone terrace]

But it sounds like he was killing them for sport lol

[alpine trench]

really interesting way for oda to illustrate the point of shanks being a potential freedom warrior before luffy

[trim lily]

i would’ve preferred blackbeard being a blood descendant of joyboy but that idea is dead in the water now

stupid davy

[strong wadi]

Well, it isn’t tbh

[tranquil blade]

I mean hey it would explain why the knights kept coming back to take Shanks even though they were fighting the Pirate King's crew

[pulsar timber]

We love Davy

[pine ridge]

yeah garling causing the fall of the wg would be very deserved

[stray pulsar]

We know the AK fought the 20 kingdoms and Joyboy. My theory is that the kingdoms are formed from the people Joyboy freed.

[trim lily]

rocks asking if imu fears davy or joyboy more makes me think that means they’re two different people

[alpine trench]

yeah it does explain in the service of why specifically garling is so invested in these two kids

[pulsar timber]

So we’re joyboy and Davy gunning to be king of the world or something

[alpine trench]

he sees them as weapons

rather than as children

[strong wadi]

I mean, if we assume shanks’ mom is a joyboy descendant, the Davy clan could have mated with their ancestor at some point…

[pulsar timber]

Why would they fight on imus side

[alpine trench]

explains why in the chapter we see shanks at mariejois he introduces shanks and shamrock as potential weapons

[pulsar timber]

Wait

[stray pulsar]

Imu was probably a slave aswell

[pulsar timber]

You have it mixed up Blub

[pine ridge]

Idk if garling would know about the joyboy bloodline

[pulsar timber]

Joyboy fought on the side of the ancient kingdom AGAINST 20 kingdoms

[alpine trench]

would be funny if it was the case

[stone terrace]

Theres more to god valley. Just has to be

[alpine trench]

and make garling even more of an animal than he is

[stray pulsar]

That would destroy my theory

[pulsar timber]

Well that’s the truth bro I don’t know what to say

[trim lily]

many such cases

[alpine trench]

pure evil wont even define garling's personality

[pulsar timber]

The fate that binds imu and Davy????

I gotta reread elbaf

[trim lily]

imu had a crush on davy but davy only loved joyboy

[strong wadi]

Still waiting to see how Lili betrayed joyboy and then betrayed Imu (unless she was a double agent)

[royal orchid]

inherited will piece

[keen quiver]

The fate that binds mu and davy

[potent pier]

So you all think Lily founded Amazon lily?

[pine ridge]

I could see it being more like the saturn/emeth situation where saturn didnt know about emeth's connection to joyboy but knew enough to be interested in him. garling knows shanks/shamrock's mom was special but not how special

[keen quiver]

Really need to see what is going on in modern elbaf

[pulsar timber]

Void century flashback

[strong wadi]

No

[pulsar timber]

I need it…

[royal orchid]

imu killed 50 children and enslaved 120 so far

[trim lily]

only 3 years away

[strong wadi]

You funny

[spice cairn]

Only 5 years away

[vapid flower]

Tritoma flashback next

[trim lily]

yeah maybe 3 was an underestimate

[pulsar timber]

3 years away from 3 years away at this pace

[strong wadi]

Need this just to end Luffy mom theories

[royal orchid]

can you believe it guys
void century, just a week away

[spice cairn]

Does Loki know about the Tritoma and Dragon romance too?

[pulsar timber]

Loki knows everything

[ashen perch]

I'd give it 6-7 years

[trim lily]

hes very into gossip

[strong wadi]

Luffy’s mom will be a CD, not Tritoma

[spice cairn]

Theres your girl boss representation

[trim lily]

that’s a new one

[fallen meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/shanks-film-red-gif-26555539

[ashen perch]

well its actually a really old one

[strong wadi]

Definitely not

[potent pier]

Doubt

[ashen perch]

and I feel like its very unlikely after God Valley now

[trim lily]

first time i’ve ever seen it

[spice cairn]

Luffys Mom? It was Oda of course

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/onepiece-uta-onepiecefilmred-halloween-anime-gif-12033131181672966490

[fallen meteor]

Luffy's mom a CD is old news ye

[potent pier]

Yeah she dies the next year but that would be going so off topic at this point

[trim lily]

i’m a believer that the monkey line has no mothers

[ashen perch]

I dont know if Dragon will ever get with a CD atp, not even sure what would lead to that after his disgust for them from GV

[trim lily]

they all asexually reproduce

[pulsar timber]

Why would dragon get with a cd

[spice cairn]

By booger flicking into the ground

[royal orchid]

dragon reproduced via budding

[spice cairn]

And it grows like a plant

[strong wadi]

I’m just reviving an old theory and tying in why they thought shanks was the fated destiny child (child of CD + D clan) and not some joyboy bs. But Luffy is the real fated child so he must also follow this (child of CD + D clan)

[urban lodge]

I have no interest in learning about Luffy's mother tbh

[gritty tangle]

Osmosis*

[pulsar timber]

Neither does Oda

[ashen perch]

well we are going to, 1000000%

[spice cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-one-piece-animated-gifs-one-piece-egghead-arc-one-piece-the-blackbeard-pirates-one-piece-kurohige-gif-16305747874223370111

[pulsar timber]

She’s probably gonna be a rouge type character

[trim lily]

i need the absence of any of them addressed at least

[fossil nimbus]

fr

[spice cairn]

Does Law pick his boogers too?

[trim lily]

what the hell happened to garp and dragon’s wives

[ashen perch]

Oda never said he isnt interested, he just said "I am still thinking about it but she is probably alive", etc

[urban lodge]

I'm more interested in Garp's wife yeah

[gritty tangle]

They ate them

[fallen meteor]

i feel Oda will explore Oda's mom just because people like to talk about it a lot
he must see the people clamoring for it

[gritty tangle]

Obviously

[urban lodge]

He had Dragon relatively young

[gritty tangle]

I would love to learn about Oda’s mom, she produced a legend

[pulsar timber]

25 isn’t too young

[ashen perch]

I think she is part of Oda's promise to reveal every single mystery in the final saga that he made when he started the final saga

[potent pier]

23 I've heard

[pulsar timber]

Wait

[fallen meteor]

you know what i wont even edit

[urban lodge]

Yeah 23

[potent pier]

He just got into teh marines that year too

[pulsar timber]

Garp isn’t actually 80 yet I forget

[strong wadi]

When it’s revealed you must have CD blood to beat Imu, that’s when the Luffy’s mom reveal will occur

[urban lodge]

While Dragon had Luffy at like 36

[pulsar timber]

Does Oda like his mom. Why does he kill every mother

[ashen perch]

"thinking HARD about this" feels quite the opposite of no interest btw, also this statement is now 20 years old(!)

[fallen meteor]

i still can tank oda's dad being called seiichiro oda
the dude that produced pinzoro and thats his dad

[potent pier]

Most likely dandan

[strong wadi]

And when Imu tries to domi reversi Luffy on Marejois, it’ll work temporarily because the “only work on homeland” theory will be true and it’s because of Luffy’s mom

[ashen perch]

its not Dadan

[potent pier]

she fits the bill the best

[strong wadi]

Trust in the process 🧘‍♂️

[tranquil blade]

Isnt this just describing Dadan

[stone terrace]

If he had a son it would be iichiro

[trim lily]

isn’t that exactly dadan

[ashen perch]

but its not Dadan lol

[tranquil blade]

Even if she biologically isnt Luffy's mom

[fallen meteor]

saran

[urban lodge]

Beiichiro

[pulsar timber]

This is like Enies lobby and he describes dadan

[spice cairn]

I feel like Oda is around about trolling and just admitting Daban is simply the mom figure lmao

[tranquil blade]

Like she basically is his mom still

[trim lily]

dadan’s sister

[spice cairn]

I don't trust Oda sometimes so I think he's just vaguely describing Dadan lmao

[pulsar timber]

It’s do sure dadan because that sbs came out in the water 7 saga so we didnt get to dadan for another like 200 chapters

[ashen perch]

yeah but he is talking about biological mom obviously lol, there cant be two strict/tough middle aged women with permed hair???

[pulsar timber]

No

[spice cairn]

No

[stone terrace]

I think yamatos mom being not shown kinda sucks but luffys mom not being shown would be egregious

It doesnt even have to be an involved thing it could just be a rouge/shanks' mom like appearance

[tranquil blade]

Unless Luffy's biological mom is someone almost identical to Dadan then it's describing Dadan

[strong wadi]

Never forget Black Maria mom theories and then the age reveal of Black Maria being a year older

[ashen perch]

btw, worth noting that that statement is 20 years old and since then Oda has directly said that he has an interesting story about the secret of Luffy's birth that he would like to get into

[potent pier]

Oda would need to address the circumstances around luffy's birth with dragon

[pulsar timber]

Luffys mom will be shown, just in dragons flashback and maybe with a ginny type role

I don’t think she herself will be very important

But it’s one piece so actually she probably is

[trim lily]

she has to be dead right

[tranquil blade]

She's probably dead

[sage temple]

Luffy's Mom is the leader of the men marked by flames

[spice cairn]

I mean no doubt about it.

[tranquil blade]

Like 60-70% at least

[spice cairn]

But I dont think she'll be extremely important

[potent pier]

Because why would he suddenly decide to have a kid even thought it can be a great vulnerability

[spice cairn]

Imo

[trim lily]

or i guess she’s hiding out somewhere for some reason

[spice cairn]

But im probably wrong

[stone terrace]

Every day i see a worse theory than the last

[pulsar timber]

You know everything Oda has ever said. What did Oda say on December 14th 2008 at 2:34 pm

[urban lodge]

Can't wait for her to die of the mysterious flashback mom disease

[strong wadi]

Do you even have to ask

[potent pier]

why do you think people like the Tritoma theory so much

[ashen perch]

though, the secret to Luffy's birth thing goes wayyyyyyy back. The first databook references Woop Slap's "Dream or Destiny" line and says that he is aware of the "secret to Luffy's birth"

whatever that means

[steel stirrup]

Dead as disco

[tranquil blade]

She'll probably be actually killed

[ashen perch]

he said you a bitch LMAO

[spice cairn]

Because Tritoma and Dragon is a good ship.

[ashen perch]

sorry

[spice cairn]

Its the vibes

[tranquil blade]

Idk if it'll just be some disease

[ashen perch]

also she's alive, Oda basically said so

[potent pier]

link ity

[pulsar timber]

Tell Oda I will literally beat him up

[tranquil blade]

Well they're vaguely a similar age which is what makes people support it too

[urban lodge]

She is NOT Burn Scar (it's Bluejam)

[pulsar timber]

Remember the short 3 weeks of Ginny being luffys mother theories

[steel stirrup]

When tf

[pulsar timber]

Folks really thought dragon cucked his own friend

[spice cairn]

I miss when people thought Big Mom and Bonney were related

[pulsar timber]

Crazy world

[trim lily]

that was an awful time

[stone terrace]

Kuma is a virgin

[trim lily]

truly the worst of the community

[stone terrace]

Nothing wrong with that

[tranquil blade]

It's actually really funny to me that Dragon and Dadan are like the same age cause I thought Dadan would be in her like 60's

[steel stirrup]

This is my first time hearing about this

[spice cairn]

He's the virgin mary

[pulsar timber]

Man that lowkey makes me mad sometimes. Everything aligned perfectly. Craziest coincidences of all time

[ashen perch]

the databooks are like lost media atp to most people so you will have to trust the wiki

[fallen meteor]

Do you guys have any theorising thoughts about Saturn dying and leaving his whole skeleton MINUS his legs+feet?
Like on the manga we dont see that angle and in the anime you can see he's legless
I wonder if he had no legs before getting his contract with Imu.
Or if taking your legs is something Imu does to make you less inclined for betrayals?
If the homeland domi reversi thing is true maybe this makes you 'unable to take roots' somewhere so you can be domi'd all over the world? Idk

[strong wadi]

Untrue. Nothing beats the illiteracy that occurred when “oden” showed up in front of the scabbards.

[stone terrace]

In all fairness luffy has to get his appetite from somewhere

Ginny was a good bet

[pulsar timber]

Same hair color same lipstick same food theme, both heavy eaters (literally her epitaph) and she ran away from wherever she was before

[tranquil blade]

It's Devon trust me

[spice cairn]

Notice how the anime had the skeleton pop out from the smoke rather than lying there.

#FakedDeath

[potent pier]

link th ewiki

[spice cairn]

#CounttheTeeth

[strong wadi]

Arsal moment

[trim lily]

the ol switcheroo…

[tranquil blade]

No way Arsal invented that theory

[steel stirrup]

I assumed they just snapped off in that explosion

[fallen meteor]

i feel theres zero reason for him to have no legs in the anime

[pulsar timber]

If Oda didn’t actually masterfully plant the seeds of the kuma plotline pre timeskip I would have believed he originally planned her to be big moms daughter

[tranquil blade]

That had to be like some theory off the reddit

[ashen perch]

yes, I think his real legs are gone and he basically had phantom legs like Brogy has a phantom arm after Domi Reversi.

[fallen meteor]

but the whole skeleton stays together, just his legs are gone

[spice cairn]

I would've hated it especially if she was meant to replace Pudding

[trim lily]

so nice of imu to give saturn free prosthetic legs

[strong wadi]

At least for this server, he was championing it, idk if he made it

[spice cairn]

That would've been disasterous