also-manga

[formal wagon]

Giant warrior pirates ranked by relevance

1. Road
2. Stansen
3. Hajrudin
4. gerd?
5. goldberg

[runic dock]

It’s legit not an option

This is desperate

[ashen perch]

the only other option is Oda inventing a 2nd magical mythical hammer that is in Heaven Realm or some shit

[red lagoon]

HARUDJIN 3rd ye this list is ass

[urban lodge]

I don't want him to get Ragnir because I want him to stay weak

[formal wagon]

nah think about it

[red lagoon]

No

I don’t want to

[formal wagon]

think harder bro

[urban lodge]

Braveness is not related to how strong you are

[formal wagon]

think really hard about it

[dark nymph]

Usopp will get the mythical glock in the heaven realm

[unkempt sable]

One and only harudjin defender

[sturdy steeple]

Imagine if Hiyori told Zoro "yeah you can't have my father's blade, sorry" and then Zoro would just get Hotei's sword

[formal wagon]

road is 3rd in line to be nika

[sturdy steeple]

Fucking HOTEI'S

[red lagoon]

Harudjin a bum but saying stansen and road more relevant

[sturdy steeple]

I'm crying dude lmfaaao

[red lagoon]

Is absurd

[sage temple]

Stansen repays the debt by giving the Strawhat's his hammer for Ussop to use

[ruby moat]

I like this take on road, as one piece is a journey and journeys are conducted on roads whether physical or metaphorical

[tranquil blade]

Who is Hotei

[trim lily]

i hope road dies

[sage temple]

[formal wagon]

stansen was in sabody so he's basically a supernova

[red lagoon]

bruh

[sage temple]

Stansen gives Ussop his hammer as a repayment

[sturdy steeple]

Hotei is that dude that was slain by Hyo gramps

[sage temple]

Starting to make sense now honestly

[sturdy steeple]

He was a leader of samurai on Orochi's side

[sage temple]

Trueeee

[formal wagon]

this reminds me of Nobilis

[red lagoon]

Man idek why niggas go back and forth with Socrates about topics regarding Loki

[ruby moat]

Socrates wants usopp upscale so bad he has him wielding a hammer that’s like 10x his size

[sturdy steeple]

Nah Zoro you cannot have that thematically important blade to yourself, please take HOTEI's blade

[pine scaffold]

This would be great writing ngl

[formal wagon]

whos hotei

[sturdy steeple]

That's how Socrates sound and I cannot stop criying from laughter

[tranquil blade]

I had to google who it was

[sturdy steeple]

STANSEN MAN, STANSEN

[tranquil blade]

My god

[sage temple]

Ussop doesn't wield any hammers
Ussop wields Stansen's hammer
Ussop wields Ragnir

All the options rn

[tranquil blade]

Do you guys think he'll leave the server if Loki loses all his aura this arc

[ruby moat]

Dude tried to sneak in stansens hammer just 😭

[pine scaffold]

I dont think this is possible

[sage temple]

Lol god forbid I want such a greatly written character to have a hammer that's just as good

[pine scaffold]

How can Oda make Loki look bad after this chap?

[formal wagon]

goldbergs shield

[pine scaffold]

idk

[viscid skiff]

Hammerscaling

[formal wagon]

gerds scarf

[sturdy steeple]

Bro that's the local meme here

[red lagoon]

Ussop wields ragnir 80% 19.99999% he doesn’t wield ragnir 0. Whatever% he wields stansen

[sturdy steeple]

Nobody knows who Hotei is

[formal wagon]

hajrudins helmet

[sturdy steeple]

I only remember because I wanted him to do at least something but he just... Dies

[formal wagon]

roads sewing machine

[viscid skiff]

best we can give ussop is a splinter of Colin’s wooden sword

[ruby moat]

He gets a full load out from the new giants hand me downs

[formal wagon]

these are the artifiacts that will

[sage temple]

Lmaooo

[pine scaffold]

how can Oda make Loki lose all his aura

[formal wagon]

WHAT WAS IN THE BOXES JINBEI WAS CARRYING

was it another vegapunk

yes

good disscussion

[pine scaffold]

I guess if the fruit looks stupid but idk

[tranquil blade]

Usopp is gonna get Jorul's old toothpick just so Loki can have more hype with Ragnir

[pine scaffold]

thats not enough

[sage temple]

The fact that Loki got glaze over Shanks this fb cements him as one of Oda's favorites

[strong wadi]

If he showed Loki getting 1 shot by shanks 6 years ago. I don’t think that’ll happen, but that would do it.

[dark nymph]

gives him some stupid ahh fruit

[formal wagon]

wwait actually usopp getting the supreme grade sword in jaruls head would be peak

[sage temple]

Imo of course

[sturdy steeple]

Hey ORDER UP
ONE DOSUN HAMMER FOR USOPP FOR HIS BRAVERY

Crying

[ruby moat]

Loki got attention in his own flashback therefore he is odas favorite

[formal wagon]

@sage temple

[sage temple]

OPTION NUMBER 4

[viscid skiff]

How is ussop gonna even weird any of this stuff, the owl can only make things bigger

[pine scaffold]

I'm trying to think of likely scenarios ngl

[sturdy steeple]

I love Socrates ngl

[formal wagon]

make usopp bigger

[unkempt sable]

[pine scaffold]

like I guess if the fruit looks goofy

but I dont think it will

[sage temple]

Bartsky clicking every one of those "1 blocked message - Show" buttons

[formal wagon]

i wish that lokis df was easier to see

[sage temple]

Keep me blocked thanks

[strong wadi]

Goofiness doesn’t lose aura anyway. Only to fake fans I guess

[pine scaffold]

I remember people said the Gorosei looked goofy

[sage temple]

Same I guess we'll see it later though

Loki gets crazy big with the fruit too lmao

[runic dock]

Stansen is not an option

[formal wagon]

i miss jorul he was gone too soon

[unkempt sable]

I remember when those fake leaks came out of Loki being a squirrel

[strong wadi]

Only the worm is goofy and his power is just lame unfortunately.

[formal wagon]

rip jorul

[unkempt sable]

The power to suck is a unfortunate power to have

[viscid skiff]

Trying to account for scale that fruit is definitely massive

[vital heart]

Im not gonna lie. This bait is worse than mine. And my bait has been getting really low quality these days😭😭😭

[pine scaffold]

Literally all he does is suck things up

[ruby moat]

Watch it pal.

[unkempt sable]

[sage temple]

Lmao this just isn't bait

[pine scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/egghead-one-piece-gorosei-five-elders-sandworm-gif-14995644640442635894

[sage temple]

Stansen did say this

[viscid skiff]

like I think it would be sizable if Hajrudin were to try to eat it

[sage temple]

Read the manga Meek

[dark nymph]

he can also spit things out

[runic dock]

Don’t bring random bs into this, he either wields ragnir or nothing

[formal wagon]

its cool when he sucks tbh

[sage temple]

Stansen repays his debt by giving the Strawhats his hammer

[runic dock]

He can’t pick up a legit giant hammer that’s just heavy

Use your noggin

[unkempt sable]

!cope

[tropic nova]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/833429585186127872/948077605100331038/unknown.png

[formal wagon]

!sorry

[tropic nova]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/660200350749425688/1007704105340391494/unknown.png

[tranquil blade]

Kinda crazy any one character in this gif could solo Rocks

[sage temple]

I know you are but what am I

[unkempt sable]

[formal wagon]

W ragebait

[ashen perch]

I knew you were a real Dorry and Brogy believer Avery

[formal wagon]

the worst one is luffy because some FREAK might actually believe it

[pine scaffold]

RAGEBAIT NEEDS TO BE BANNED

[shell scroll]

Cloud logia wasnt real how do you feel

[unkempt sable]

A goofy goober

[dark nymph]

mr 3 upscale

[ashen perch]

she is right btw

[formal wagon]

W MR 3

[sage temple]

It still isn't confirmed btw

[tranquil blade]

Who is right

[pine scaffold]

ME

[vital heart]

Can I derail the convo for a second? Feeso is streaming 1170 review rn. Can I link it here

[formal wagon]

mr 3 should change his name to mr W cauas he gets so many W 😂

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/goofygoober-patrickstar-spongebob-gif-4548801

[vital heart]

https://www.youtube.com/live/cg9eG8ouTjU?si=fBhl8uGGWOmJxj7X

[shell scroll]

Why’d you take it out ur name

[unkempt sable]

Mr 3 would have solo’d the giants in a afternoon

[formal wagon]

AND ITS LIKE TURNING THE 3 SIDEWAYS BRO

[ashen perch]

mb

[sage temple]

It was never in my name

That's @fallen meteor

[ruby moat]

Mr 3 > Rocks

[tranquil blade]

It's okay

[formal wagon]

oh thats

[pine scaffold]

Cooked

[ashen perch]

#promote-yourself

[sage temple]

Advertisement much

[formal wagon]

Glue logia

[ashen perch]

meek you know this

[sage temple]

?

[vital heart]

its not myself

its not me

[formal wagon]

glue lgoia

[tranquil blade]

you cant steal my ragebait method

[vital heart]

ITS FEESO

[shell scroll]

Oh mb I thought it was u 💀

[formal wagon]

oh thats

[ashen perch]

oh I guess meek

[unkempt sable]

Your feeso

[ashen perch]

he got me

[formal wagon]

sorry its just so good

[tranquil blade]

oh thats not...

[vital heart]

Zehahaha

[sage temple]

Wait don't worry you can't be punished even if it was you

The cloud logia theory is still true btw

Just wait

[vital heart]

Usopp will get Ragnir and defeat JuPeter in a game of wack-a-worm.

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-smile-cartoon-space-animal-gif-27634491

IT IS POSSIBLE

[ruby moat]

I like that theory but u need to replace jupeter with a different gorosei

[formal wagon]

NO

[shell scroll]

Tbh a mythical logia could have a transition form

[vital heart]

Whack a worm

[formal wagon]

Glue logia truthers WE ONE

🏆

[tranquil blade]

It cant be Mars because Mars is too cool

[ashen perch]

it does have to be Ju Peter

[tranquil blade]

Let the goofy worm get beat

[formal wagon]

mars SUCKS

[ruby moat]

NO

[formal wagon]

mars is towing the line

[ashen perch]

Ju Peter is the evolved version of Usopp's past opponents, like Daruma and Merry Christmas

[ruby moat]

God DAMNIT

[tranquil blade]

oh thats

[formal wagon]

he never does his homework. he got beat FIRST during egghead

[sage temple]

Ussop will get Stansen's hammer and do it

[pine ridge]

usopp will beat defeat mars in a game of whack-a-mole?

[ruby moat]

Anyone but the worm PLEASE

[formal wagon]

etc etc

[ashen perch]

he is going to play whack a mole with him

[formal wagon]

also the bird isn't that cool

[ashen perch]

it has to be the worm

[ruby moat]

Much better.

[vital heart]

Mars is Zoro’s EOS opponent

Venus is Sanji’s EOS opponent

Garling is for Shanks and Shamrock to teamup after they make amends

Jupeter is for Usopp’s EOS opponent

Warcury is for Dragon’s EOS opponent

@ashen perch @formal wagon @ruby moat

[formal wagon]

worm is cooler than the bird

[tranquil blade]

The early bird gets the worm

[formal wagon]

evil zoro slander

[ruby moat]

Actually jupeter and usopp in a fight together may not be so bad

[tranquil blade]

Foreshadowing that Mars will betray and kill JuPeter

[formal wagon]

😭 bro meek genuinely ats the first three people that show up on the at list

[vital heart]

😭😭🙏

Ill stop

[formal wagon]

no its funny

[ruby moat]

Ok cook but mars is older than jupeter so it’s the early worm not the early bird

[formal wagon]

keep doing it

[frigid gulch]

mailbox. (Meek for)

[ashen perch]

They are all SH opponents, I believe Oda created them as SH opponents.

Nusjuro v Zoro
Garling v Sanji
Mars v Nami
Ju Peter v Usopp
Warcury v Jinbe

[red lagoon]

Ussop soloing a gorosei but shanks and shamrock teaming up is wicked

[formal wagon]

best typo of the year lol that got me

[blazing depot]

https://x.com/lanfeardelrey/status/2005676992319115478?s=46

bella (@lanfeardelrey)

oh my god so that’s what dudebros meant by a haki knot? I thought they were talking about omegaverse

X · Dec 29, 2025, 4:27 PM

[trim lily]

it could be both

[tranquil blade]

Denying Venus vs Zoro is like denying Shiryu vs Zoro

[red lagoon]

U think this fr

[tranquil blade]

LOL

[red lagoon]

I just can’t see ts at all

[ashen perch]

has anyone made a Paulie upscale meme about the knots meme

[formal wagon]

CHAT WHO IS HYPE FOR VIRA

[ashen perch]

thats his thing smh

[tranquil blade]

I think someone has

[ashen perch]

I do yea, I can explain

[formal wagon]

yeah i've seen paulie edits on tiktok

[tranquil blade]

but I didnt screenshot it

[red lagoon]

The gap between nami and ussop and the gorosei is astronomical

[ashen perch]

hype

[urban lodge]

Paulie upscale is Lucci upscale, so Joyboy upscales Lucci

[ashen perch]

the people are ready for post ts Paulie then

[blazing depot]

Next arc is Lodestar brother

[vital heart]

Why Jinbei and not Franky?

I was thinking Jinbei could fight either a Domi Reversi’d Arlong or a Holy Knight version of Fisher Tiger.

Thoughts?

[trim lily]

nami will be fighting ethan

they dont have to be 1v1s

[tranquil blade]

Though I kinda thought you were referring to the sopranos guy for a second

[pine ridge]

venus vs zoro is much more likely than shiryu vs zoro

[formal wagon]

nope

[tranquil blade]

I forgot about Paulie

[red lagoon]

Domi reverse arlong💔

[ruby moat]

Venus vs zoro is cool shiryu vs zoro SUX

[sage temple]

HOLY SHIT

[muted hedge]

i don't think they'd accept any fishmen as Holy Knights

[sage temple]

USSOP IS THE ONE THAT ACCEPTED STANSEN'S REPAYMENT

[unkempt sable]

[sage temple]

STANSEN GIVING USSOP THE HAMMER IS EVEN MORE LIKELY THAN I THOUGHT WTH

[red lagoon]

This nigga still on ts

[unkempt sable]

[pine ridge]

killingham looks like one

[novel berry]

We need to start including enel in our conversations

[sage temple]

Oh we moved on

[formal wagon]

at christmas my family was talking about mafia romance novels and i just pictured some book protagonist girl character falling in love with fat italian mobsters like tony soprano from sopranos

[sage temple]

It took me a while to find that panel

[ruby moat]

Socrates screaming into the void about the hammer

[tranquil blade]

Stansen hammer could be the worst cope in one piece fandom history

[muted hedge]

well, a lot of characters have sharp teeth and aren't fishmen so i don't think it's fair to assume that he is one either

[unkempt sable]

No

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/triste-isolado-pensando-sad-isolated-gif-11165084073573897086

[vital heart]

Socrates

Just answer

[red lagoon]

Moon piece?

[vital heart]

How will usopp hold stansens hammer

Answer that

[dark nymph]

don't think Oda is interested in having Nami fight top tiers ngl

[vital heart]

And i am yours

[formal wagon]

that = vira

[sage temple]

Stansen said he'd repay the Strawhat pirates, Ussop accepts this

[tranquil blade]

I've dated someone like that before unironically lol

[red lagoon]

Fr

[unkempt sable]

By revealing he was a giant this entire time

[tranquil blade]

It's really something

[formal wagon]

like tony soprano?

[vital heart]

Youve dated a fat italian mobster?

[tranquil blade]

Ohhh my god bruh

[formal wagon]

from sopranos 😭 ?

[ruby moat]

Badabing

[tranquil blade]

No

[formal wagon]

oh

[ruby moat]

Gabagool

[formal wagon]

like a booktok protagonist?

[sage temple]

He can hollow out the middle to make it useable

Ussop is a big re-engineering guy

[tranquil blade]

I dated someone who had a crush on tony soprano

[sage temple]

He can do it

[formal wagon]

oh

[vital heart]

Why is this better than Ragnir in ur opinion

[sage temple]

Nami's weapon is a result of Ussop's re-engineering skill

[blazing depot]

😭

[red lagoon]

Where tf is ussop gonna have time to re engineer ts in the middle of elbaf

[ashen perch]

Zoro v Nusjuro - swordsmen, duh
Sanji v Garling - The blonde, womanizing knight Garling who is serving as the Warrior God of Science now v the blonde chivalrous knight Sanji who is also called the Warrior of Science.
Usopp v Ju Peter - Ju Peter is the evolved version of Merry Christmas and Daruma
Nami v Mars - works if Nami gets Balloon, a Magical Roc that is her best friend in Romance Dawn v1, I think its whats inside the egg on Oro Jackson.
Jinbe v Warcury - (both fat)

I personally think Oda created the Gorosei all the way back in Jaya with the intent to make them the final SH opponents.

[formal wagon]

swordsmen, duh

swordsmen, duh

[prisma idol]

I dont think usopp should use any hammer

[dark nymph]

I can see a scenario where she like... helps in a fight against a top tier tho

[muted hedge]

first time hearing Sanji vs Garling

[sage temple]

Because Ussop accepted Stansen's claim of repayment. I'm not saying Ragnir is weaker or worse than Stansen's hammer, I'm saying Ussop wielding Stansen's hammer makes even more sense since Ussop accepted Stansen's repayment

[unkempt sable]

!bluko

[ashen perch]

you will be hearing it many more times with me, its happening

[novel berry]

the guy was able to HEAR conversations throughout skypeia his observation haki granted him a form of omnipresence . We haven’t yet seen anyone else do that or have been stated to do that

[formal wagon]

HOT TAKE: USOPP SHOULD USE HIS WORDS TO FIGHT

[vital heart]

Then I think Robin and Chopper could team up against Warcury. Have someone else be Jinbeis opponent.

[sage temple]

Again 💔

[tranquil blade]

If you put a red wig on Sanji he kinda looks like Shanks it could potentially work

[formal wagon]

!bigtowel

[tropic nova]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/660200350749425688/1010028256487014490/unknown.png

[formal wagon]

remember wascoshot

[prisma idol]

I dont have a command silly

[formal wagon]

!vira

thank goodness

[ashen perch]

Like I said before, It goes back to Oda's favorite dynamic, a dynamic he almost made an entire series about: the Knight v the Samurai. Nusjuro and Garling are going to have the same dynamic, and its gonna mirror Zoro and Sanji obviously

[tranquil blade]

Vira command soon

[prisma idol]

Agree
No
I could see it
I could see it
...

[ashen perch]

they will take on the HKs, Gorosei are a CoC user only zone

[formal wagon]

swordsmen, duh

[dark nymph]

this shit was brutal

[ashen perch]

Mailbox I am going to hurt you

[ashen perch]

I am making some strong points with that last one too

[tranquil blade]

Is Warcury even that fat or is he just like

[formal wagon]

hurting people is morally wrong btw

[prisma idol]

If the Gorosei are fighting SHs, I think it would be 2v1s

[tranquil blade]

No he's fat nvm

[ashen perch]

he has the same build as Jinbe

[muted hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/egghead-one-piece-warcury-topman-warcury-pig-gif-15649861968347540949

[red lagoon]

I don’t see any of the sh outside of monster trio and Jimbei handling the gorosei

[tranquil blade]

Well Warcury has a neck at least

[ornate tartan]

https://youtu.be/6oR_vsNbcUk?si=g0XhHOC8IZqpdtWR

Botan

[red lagoon]

There’s other factions that can fight the gorosei still

[ornate tartan]

interesting theory

[ashen perch]

is it Nerona Mi

[urban lodge]

Shepherd Nami

[ashen perch]

oh nvm garbage

[prisma idol]

Luna

[tranquil blade]

lol

[ornate tartan]

she isn’t a nerona😂

[formal wagon]

chopper can fight a YC so he can probably fight a gorosei after the science upgrades

[ashen perch]

she is but okay

[dark nymph]

lineage piece 🤢

[formal wagon]

franky also got science upgrades

[tranquil blade]

No he didnt

[prisma idol]

Franky vs Garling

[wraith mantle]

Chat is it true usopp was never meant to be black

[muted hedge]

i've got a hard time with those who label their videos 'a native japanese speaker explains'

[ashen perch]

you will be seeing it EOS, give it some time

[urban lodge]

Can't wait for Joyboy to be named Monkey D. Binks

[formal wagon]

will evan's hellborg finally see the light of day

[ornate tartan]

that theory only works if nami is from the past

[ornate tartan]

that guy is legit

he is dawn dusk

just another channel

he’s actually from japan

[formal wagon]

me to the mirror

[celest mauve]

usopp has never been drawn to be dark by oda in any of his color pages lol

[muted hedge]

i'm sure he is, i just don't like people who use it as an automatic listen to me card

[ashen perch]

weelllllllllllll

[prisma idol]

Nah Binks was Joyboy's chef

[ornate tartan]

i’d give it a 50/50 chance arsal

[ashen perch]

yknow, there is that panel where she expresses a strange familiarity with Shirahoshi

[ornate tartan]

but it’s not a guarantee

[prisma idol]

Like his Sanji

[muted hedge]

like, i don't care if you're from japan or not
as long as your theory makes sense or not, lol

[ornate tartan]

this too

[tranquil blade]

Arsal if Nami is from the past it opens up the possibility of Joyboy of the VC being Luffy

[trim lily]

is nami joygirl who travelled forward in time

[tranquil blade]

It makes a lot of bad things possible

[ornate tartan]

and she has some kind of special talent for navigating

[prisma idol]

Arsal you will have to pull up the panel

[ornate tartan]

that normal ppl don’t have

[ashen perch]

no because she was sent forward in time, not backwards like Luffy would according to Shuron

[prisma idol]

Yeah

[muted hedge]

don't we know already that Nami is from the Oykot kingdom

[formal wagon]

lifeorb tera skibidi agumon with choice helmet and air balloon + wonder guard

[tranquil blade]

Oh yeah I forgot about that

[trim lily]

oh i was joking

[formal wagon]

that = vira

[celest mauve]

she was found there, we don't know if she's from there

[formal wagon]

does anyone else miss weevil?

[muted hedge]

ah

[trim lily]

yes

[prisma idol]

It's when you joke that you accidentally predict the future.

[knotty pilot]

yes

[trim lily]

i look forward to the 20 chapter weevil subarc in 2026

[ornate tartan]

however toki has a fruit that does that exact same thing

and Oda specifically made sure to make it as clear as possible that Toki is from the void century

he could’ve jus said a long time ago but he specified the time period

[celest mauve]

nami's biological origins are a complete mystery unlike the rest of the east blue 5

[dark nymph]

good time to drop op

[tranquil blade]

I forgot about him again

[formal wagon]

i think it will be more like 70

[prisma idol]

Weevil is going to break Doffy out of impel down

[muted hedge]

it's her and Buggy

[formal wagon]

they'd be such a great duo

[trim lily]

they compliment each other well

doflamingo loves manipulating people and weevil is very good at being manipulated

[formal wagon]

easily manipulated chungus and guy that listens to indie music or something

[muted hedge]

Weevil would totally be controlled by Doflamingo, yeah

[tranquil blade]

guy that listens to indie music

[formal wagon]

whats doflamingos favorite indie band

[muted hedge]

just like how Doflamingo puppeteered Jozu

[tranquil blade]

Just call him a demon

[inner agate]

nerona nami ❌️
nerona perona ✅️

[tranquil blade]

what even counts as an indie band

[prisma idol]

Perona is Toko's sister

[trim lily]

everyone with the same hair colour is related

[formal wagon]

if i listen to it

[prisma idol]

Correct

[ashen perch]

oh it was actually the other way around

[trim lily]

this is why olvia and xebec are related

[ornate tartan]

i think there’s a big chance nami actually is from the past

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/holding-a-basketball-michael-jordan-mj-jordan-chicago-bulls-gif-16999943

[formal wagon]

music genres confuse me so idk what qualifies any of them

especially the cringe niche ones

[red lagoon]

Bruh

[trim lily]

like rock

[formal wagon]

spotify genres make me wanna explode

[red lagoon]

How does music genre confuse u

[urban lodge]

Indie doesn't mean anything

It's the fakest denomination ever

[trim lily]

doesnt it just mean you dont have a label

[muted hedge]

would Shanks like the same music that Oda likes?

[formal wagon]

like idk what the hell shoegaze means just that i want to hit people that listen to it with a hammer

[runic dock]

Is it hard techno bass funk or hard bass funk techno?

[ashen perch]

other translations have her saying "we've only just met but its like I am already close with you" lol

[trim lily]

i mean oda likes hazbin hotel music so maybe

[runic dock]

I get it mixed it up

[urban lodge]

In theory, but a lot of them do and they're still called indie

[trim lily]

huge

[muted hedge]

i see

[tranquil blade]

someone told me they listen to math rock once

[formal wagon]

i know what math rock is cause i googled it

[runic dock]

That’s messed up they would do that to you

[formal wagon]

it jsut means it has a wild and wacky time signature

[trim lily]

do they do math in the songs

oh that sucks

[red lagoon]

Nvm I take it back cause wtf u niggas talking about

[formal wagon]

dad rock is like emo for old people

[formal wagon]

SEE

[red lagoon]

wtf happens to hip hop and rock

And jazz and shit

[tranquil blade]

isnt dad rock just like foo fighters

[red lagoon]

wtf kinda spell did u cast on me nigga

[formal wagon]

yeah i dont get confused by that lol

[urban lodge]

Foo fighters isn't that old comparatively

Idk if it classifies

[formal wagon]

foo fighters must be like prog rock or grunge or something

[ornate tartan]

the noah gonna get fixed by end of elbaph arc? like a cutaway to the sea kings looking for the ancient shipwrights

[viscid skiff]

I’ll count it

[ashen perch]

Yeah, and Oda's been keeping it secret for a while now, as we approach the endgame I feel like the options have really narrowed down to it being endgame related.

[red lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-jojo-reference-jotaro-jojos-bizarre-adventure-is-that-a-jojo-reference-gif-6681830226860212095

[prisma idol]

Hip and Hop died when kidd fought shanks

[trim lily]

at least house isnt dead

[red lagoon]

RIP

[urban lodge]

I think of dad rock and I think of like led zeppelin but at this point that's more like granddad rock

[formal wagon]

i know that king crimson is prog rock because peter griffin on tiktok explained their innovations in the genre to me

[viscid skiff]

Prolly not this arc; probably at some point after and between the final war

[runic dock]

Is it tropical deep house or deep electro pop ?

[red lagoon]

Bruh

I don’t got these genres dlc

[trim lily]

symphonic electroswing

[tranquil blade]

Wait I've seen this video before

[runic dock]

That’s my shit

[formal wagon]

i think dad rock is like new. It doesn't mean rock that is old so dads listen to it. Its new rock music thats made to suit the taste of dads that used to listen to that stuff

[viscid skiff]

https://youtu.be/Q5K08dMJgqk?si=w_SMZp7tPUCArRX5

[prisma idol]

It gets really really niche sometimes

[formal wagon]

lmao thats funny

[ornate tartan]

the world actually might lose some islands if some of the ancient weapons are used

the Noah is needed as soon as possible

[formal wagon]

but yeah the "indie" music i listen to is called like stupid bullshit genre names like windmill

what the fuck does windmill mean

[runic dock]

Yeah lulucia for one

[formal wagon]

at least midwest emo is easy to understand

[viscid skiff]

Indie music Don Quixote would have hated

[untold latch]

how many people can the Noah realistically hold though. Also how does Imu plan to repopulate the world?

[formal wagon]

i had a theory about how windmill village, which luffy is from, was a don quixote reference but i dont remember why i was using that as evidence for something

[ornate tartan]

the 4 bridges

[tranquil blade]

i love it when there's an indie genre that like 15 albums total could even be classified as

[ornate tartan]

but i think that’s only for the ppl he wants to live

[prisma idol]

Omg this double tap

[trim lily]

thats a place in elden ring too

maybe theyre connected

[urban lodge]

You can turn it off now

[formal wagon]

oh i guess indie music is just rock

[prisma idol]

Its useful most of the time

[formal wagon]

i need a new genre

rock is for old people

[red lagoon]

Fr it’s annoying but useful

[ornate tartan]

tequila wolf and the other bridges

[urban lodge]

I hate it

[untold latch]

yh I dont think its for the masses

[urban lodge]

I'm too clumsy for this feature

[trim lily]

it finally got me yesterday

[ornate tartan]

think he just want to drown everyone and start completely over

[prisma idol]

Its just it always reacts when you dont want it to

[untold latch]

also considering the population of the op world at least 80% will die

[trim lily]

id avoided accidentally double clicking for the longest time

[untold latch]

only good day to be a fishman

[formal wagon]

They are central to the "Windmill scene" of new British bands, blending dissonant intensity with orchestral textures and complex compositions
Holy shit 😭 its actually called fucking windmill bro i thought i was wrong

"yeah we're a windmill band"

[trim lily]

music windmills would enjoy

[untold latch]

thats why celestials r indoctrinated to hate them cause they cant drown and wont be affected by the flood

[ornate tartan]

yeah fishmen gon be straight
everyone under the red line might be cooked if his plan works

[runic dock]

At some point every indie music listener devolves in to listening to people making groans over banging together trash cans and they’ll be like hell yeah

[knotty pilot]

in the book don quixote had something to do with windmills i think

[formal wagon]

me

[prisma idol]

Anyways #music Going back to reading this odd ghost manga

[scenic dirge]

It all leads back to slurpcore

[untold latch]

only people above the red line are celestials

[tranquil blade]

This is what happens when you try to get too niche with metal people just start belching over the microphone

[untold latch]

and bridge users

possibly

[red lagoon]

???

[runic dock]

Real

[trim lily]

core is pretty good

[red lagoon]

Slurpcore?

[tranquil blade]

slurpcore is a real thing

[scenic dirge]

You don’t know?

[tranquil blade]

like the bog business song

[runic dock]

Real

[scenic dirge]

You’re not a slurpcore knower?

[untold latch]

slurpcore? tf

[red lagoon]

Ye I don’t know shit bout anything

[runic dock]

Sweet summer child

[untold latch]

no this js some unemployed sh cause tf is slurpcore

[scenic dirge]

Lmfao

Sluuuuurp

[formal wagon]

yes. windmills are a stand in for giants in Don Quixote. So i know the theory had something to do with romanticizing the idea of giants, (hence the name romance dawn). It honestly might not have been a theory but just evidence of romanticism as a central theme of one piece, though the lens of Oda's notorious love of giants, and windmills as an allegory for them..

[ornate tartan]

they were smart for goin up there
before the 20 kings revolted the lunarians use to chill up there, but idk ab ancient kingdom
idk how they got rid of them they must’ve been strong ash

over time the celestials became bums

[ashen perch]

is this the greatest panel in all of One Piece

(it is)

[untold latch]

at least King will survive 🤞

[urban lodge]

Le balls

[runic dock]

Imu probably blasted slurpcore on the loud speakers

[formal wagon]

what is slurp core

[prisma idol]

LMFAOOOOO

[formal wagon]

SOMEONE PIN THIS

[inner agate]

yk who else is above the red line?

[tranquil blade]

This is how I imagine French people speaking English

[untold latch]

wait i didnt know he says words in french

[untold latch]

who

[formal wagon]

censor fr*nch please

[inner agate]

https://tenor.com/view/enel-eneru-skypiea-god-one-piece-gif-23911162

[tranquil blade]

I know

[formal wagon]

what is it

[knotty pilot]

ty for the clarification makes sense for oda to take inspiration from the book

[tranquil blade]

I actually dont really know I just heard someone call a song in an indie game I used to play slurpcore

[untold latch]

blud has been new for a week

[formal wagon]

another interesting don quixote related theory i have is that Doflamingo isn't a representation of the titular character, but instead he's the dueteragonist, sancho panza, and Homing is actually supposed to represent Don Quxiote. Which could mean he was a holy knight at one point, but thats quite a stretch

[knotty pilot]

lmao it was about the don quixote book

[formal wagon]

id like to elaborate on the idea some more but id venture too close to spoiler territory for my comfort though it'd still be towing the line

[ornate tartan]

the original 20 kingdoms must’ve been powerful

n they probably weren’t that evil

[knotty pilot]

interesting theory ngl

[ornate tartan]

compared to what they are now

[steel stirrup]

This Harald shit just gave every CD an escape hatch on some DBD shit and I don't like that

[formal wagon]

i should finish don quixote

[runic dock]

What, is their escape hatch dying?

lmao

[steel stirrup]

No

"The devil made me do it"

[runic dock]

Oh I see

Itd be interesting to find out if any were influenced but I genuinely see people like Sommers for example a true asshole

[steel stirrup]

Yep

All of them could theoretically have an out

Blame their bad deeds on the mark

[ornate tartan]

the elders might be brainwashed

[steel stirrup]

That too

[ashen perch]

Shamrock I think is gonna be the only one aside from Gunko

[runic dock]

This gives the gorosei traitor theory more leverage

If anything

One of them could be

[ornate tartan]

og elders tho rich
i think garling just a dickhead for the love of the game

[steel stirrup]

Idk if its true or not I will say that being able to hide your true intentions from someone who damn near owns your soul would be a crazy willpower feat

[ashen perch]

the OG 20 all could be under his influence really

[steel stirrup]

Yea some of them were raised that way

The only reason why I can't say that Imu gave mark to all the og families is because they seem to be limited to 13 marks but that would be more than enough

The rest would fall into line from peer pressure alone

[runic dock]

I wouldn’t even think necessarily that they’ve been hiding their true intentions , if there is a traitor could see it being a thing like they used to HAVE a plan regarding betraying imu , but Imu influenced and erased so much of their former self they completely forgot about their plan , until someone like (brook) snaps them int reality again

This was evident with gunko and brook also tbf before even this chapter

[steel stirrup]

Yea just being near Brook seemed to disrupt Imu's influence/brainwashing

Or at least seeing him in pain after she kicked him

[runic dock]

There are some weird holy knights like the yeti

Yeti guy I could see being brain washed

He doesn’t even belong there lol

[ornate tartan]

he’s immune to brainwashing

he’s a fkn yeti😂

he’s a demon himself

[hazy echo]

https://fixupx.com/Dexerto/status/2005722825944899973

Dexerto (@Dexerto)

Zoro's One Piece actor Mackenyu finished 8th out of 366 in a One Piece card game tournament
︀︀
︀︀He even used a playmat signed by the series' creator

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FixupX · Dec 29, 2025, 7:29 PM

[gloomy tree]

imagine flexing so hard

[prisma idol]

See the issue the God's knights were having were they kept sending Sommers to get Shanks back the rest just didnt go

[tranquil blade]

Even if they got past Gaban there would still be Rayleigh and Roger idk why they kept trying after a certain point

[glacial bear]

I wonder which sword would win. Shamrock’s Cerberus or Nusjuro’s Kitetsu

[untold latch]

cerberus

[frozen aspen]

all in on the doggo

s

[ashen perch]

its very weird to me

maybe Gaban is just exaggerating and it only happened like twice

[untold latch]

I don't remember being told his Kitetsu isnt an inanimate object anyway, or maybe I forgot something

[ashen perch]

I doubt it was some weekly occurrence where they sailed in, announced "HEY WE ARE GONNA NEED CAPTAIN's SON BACK" and then got shot into the sun Team Rocket style

[frozen aspen]

It could be a df sword but i kind of doubt it

[glacial bear]

Crocus neg diffed them all

[untold latch]

yh we've got no indication yet, it seems pretty normal

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/crocus-threat-one-piece-someone-will-die-you-better-not-gif-20738001

Chopper’s parallel

[runic dock]

My goat

[untold latch]

no, Crocus is actually useful and likeable not a grown man pretending to be a plushie

[frozen aspen]

Chopper is a minor actsually 🤓 ☝️

[tawny panther]

I forgot this is the time of the year where we gotta see tons of horrendous one piece powerscaling tier lists 🤣

[frozen aspen]

True

I should make mine

[shell scroll]

this is amazing

real actors who love one piece playing them

makenyu and taz might just be the best picks icel

[scenic dirge]

I doubt they're incels

[tranquil blade]

You’d think they would know better considering they saw how powerful Roger already was on God Valley

[ornate tartan]

yeah the top 30s on twitter

[glacial bear]

Dude the God Knights would get mogged by Kaido 😭

https://tenor.com/view/kaido-one-piece-dance-chopper-one-piece-kaido-gif-12346542049157337992

[untold latch]

Kaido skips leg day tho

[vital heart]

I was thinking

[thick mango]

Kaidos strength was a scam, all pulleys and mirrors. He's actually a decrepit old man under it all

[vital heart]

What if Rocks and Harald are still alive

[grand flower]

#also-manga message

[vital heart]

They could both be the men marked by flames

[grand flower]

Check that out

[vital heart]

THE MEN MARKED BY FLAMES

A plurality

[thick mango]

It's one thing to let loki take the blame to protect harald reputation. It'd be crazy for harald to let loki take the blame despite not being dead

[sage temple]

Ngl no wonder the GKs wanted Loki to join them he's the only one so far that can literally kill em

[glacial bear]

They’re chilling in Cuba with Celia Cruz

[glacial bear]

Facts

[sage temple]

[thick mango]

And rocks was coup de grace executed by his enemies I think no shot he's alive

[glacial bear]

Rocks fr got ganged up upon at God Valley like Scar with the pack of Hyenas at the end of the Lion King Movie 😭

[steel stirrup]

Tupac and Aaliyah are there too

[grand flower]

Maybe not

We cut away at a “shunk” that’s off screen and Rayleigh answered roger with hesitation

[tidal ice]

lion king spoilers reported

[grand flower]

We didn’t see them see Rocks get executed

And the knights just let Ray and Gaban take Roger and Garp?

It’s fully possible someone intercepted the knights, took Rocks, and told Ray/Gaban to keep hush for whatever reason

[thick mango]

id hate it with all my heart

sometimes the thing should just be the thing yknow

[trim lily]

we hate deaths in our series

[thick mango]

sometimes things just should be what they appear

[thick mango]

I think not graphically showing the execution is just a bit of 'mercy' on odas part not celebrating the win of the holy knights, the worst people in the world, that they barely earned

[formal wagon]

is ragnir a squirrel or chipmunk

[trim lily]

squirrel unless oda is a hack

[pulsar path]

How come the greatest coc users are being taken out by non coc users ? Kuzan? Garland?

I mean Roger was taken out by literal fodder

[formal wagon]

garland?

garling?

[pulsar path]

Garlic

Garlingsei

[trim lily]

true he stinks

kaido could never

[pulsar path]

The three strongest in the verse taken out by non coc

[frozen aspen]

chopper hate is the lamest form of op slanded

[ornate tartan]

just saw a decent theory

the fact Emet went to Mariejois 200 years ago is because this is the time Fishman Island joined the WG and he probably thought Joyboy returned

an alliance would be a better way to describe it

[formal wagon]

real.

[blazing depot]

You’ll all turn on Ragnir eventually…

[frozen aspen]

you would know all about that wouldn't u Laido

[sage temple]

Lmaooo

[ruby moat]

Why is half the stuff just insulting other characters does ragnir not have enough to hype up by himself

[frozen aspen]

because this ragnir hypepost was specifically made to put down other characters

[blazing depot]

It’s not real gas if you need to put down other characters

[frozen aspen]

whoever made this simply hates the "weak" trio

[blazing depot]

This is why I’m a little annoyed by the Ragnir “hype” cuz most of it is putting down Usopp and Chopper for no reason

[inner agate]

forced hype

[blazing depot]

It’s all artificial

[sage temple]

Because this isn't listing everything Ragnir has to offer

Also pretty funny that a squirrel-hammer is already more useful than half the crew

[blazing depot]

Name 10 Ragnir attacks

[glacial bear]

This cracks me up 💀

He knew he was finished 😭

[steel stirrup]

Bro didnt even make an attempt he just accepted oblivion

[untold latch]

what could he realistically do 😭

[steel stirrup]

He didnt even try to run

Of course he would get ran down

But he didnt even try

[untold latch]

he knew it was futile. Sheep dont cry when they die

[glacial bear]

Lmaooo

[thick mango]

geurnica my favorite wg agent i think

goes to show how good it can be when oda actually pulls the trigger on a death

but even in this case he couldnt help himself saying he hung on a bit longer to send the g5 picture

[ornate tartan]

he survived long enough to send a pic to morgans

[trim lily]

poor guernica single handedly carrying cp0 on his back

[thick mango]

yeah i just mean oda had this beautiful clean death short but complete story of a character kinda perfect for what he had been about

and oda cant help himself being like... but actually he didnt die there heres one more thing i forgot i wanted to give him

[trim lily]

its weird he didnt just have another agent do it

one thats yknow, alive

[atomic spindle]

Is it true the next arc is gonna be the last?

[thick mango]

dude has 'have my cake and eat it too' sickness

the second the guernica cake was eaten he couldnt help but clawing it back a little bit

[trim lily]

no

[thick mango]

its the last saga is probably what you heard

[trim lily]

i think they mean the jump festa message

there was a mistranslation that laughtale/the final island would be next

[atomic spindle]

Yes

[thin quest]

the Jump message seems to hint more to Lodestar

[atomic spindle]

Is the 3 years left also false?

[trim lily]

yes

[atomic spindle]

Lol

[trim lily]

we have no definitive estimate or date now

oda did a bunch in the past but hes since realised hes not a good judge of time

[atomic spindle]

Dude all that buzz was a lie

[trim lily]

many such cases

[thin quest]

I just look forward to weekly releases

grateful we get that

[atomic spindle]

What about, those two will meet and those two too?

[thin quest]

we could be HxH

[trim lily]

dont worry the vagueposting is all true

thats an oda classic

[atomic spindle]

Two who never met before

[thin quest]

my guess is Blackbeard and Shanks as the latter and Luffy and Dragon as the former

or maybe Imu and Dragon

[trim lily]

ive long since stopped trying to guess since theres a good chance we wont even see it this year

[blazing depot]

I assumed because of the way it was written it’s gonna be Lodestar

[trim lily]

yeah i think itll be lodestar too

[blazing depot]

I more blame accounts like Sandman saying OMFG LAUGH TALE IS NEXT and people going along with it

The fact people take Sandman as a valid source of info is insan

[celest mauve]

I found this today, bro kinda lied

[thick mango]

he said might, hes fine

[atomic spindle]

There is an attack on Marijois so the HKs maybe one of the sides

[latent hamlet]

Might

[celest mauve]

yeah I said kinda for a reason

[atomic spindle]

Will Shanks die before meetinģ Luffy again?

[red lagoon]

Not before meeting Luffy

But he will die

[celest mauve]

no, unless oda is a bad writer

[stone terrace]

Oda pump fakes with sbs sometimes

[red lagoon]

It would be wild if shanks gets packed before meeting Luffy

[stone terrace]

He had everyone thinking greenbull would be a good guy

[ornate tartan]

that’s impossible

[pine ridge]

nah that's what shamrock is here for

[celest mauve]

I don't really take everything oda says in an interview 100% serious unless it's been shown in the manga because of shit like this lol

[primal notch]

I thought Luffy was gonna troll Grenbull to restore Wano's trees lol

like imagine Grenbull chasing G5 Luffy and just leaving a track of flowers and trees behind him as his attacks keep missing.

[red lagoon]

Shamrock not looking for Mr.Packaniggaoffscreen tho

Shanks is

[primal notch]

Chopper didn't even bother to find a cure for the SMILE disease

[red lagoon]

And ts gone get him packed

[grand flower]

What SBS is this?

[primal notch]

That felt dissapointing

[grand flower]

He wasn’t capable of it yet

That’ll change when we revisit Wano

[atomic spindle]

The next stop for SHs is probably Lodestar, there is only the man marked by flames left for the 4 rps

[primal notch]

I guess the Punks will arrive to Wano and help them out while stocking on seastone.

[pine ridge]

there was a certain person who wanted to talk about a certain pirate tho

[blazing depot]

Why didn’t chopper immediately cure cancer after the timeskip? Is he stupid?

[ornate tartan]

he acc is

[blazing depot]

But seriously Chopper not curing smile is such a dumb critique

[primal notch]

why didn't chopper learn electro? even some dude with a mustache could

[blazing depot]

It’s clearly being saved for later

[red lagoon]

Could be anyone

[pine ridge]

true cause that's actually some devil fruit curse removal level shit

[atomic spindle]

I think some kind of battle royale for the one piece has to happen otherwise taking things one by one will prolong the manga, we are already in the final saga

[blazing depot]

It’s literally making up stuff to get mad about 😭

[celest mauve]

109

[red lagoon]

Fr cause that would require chopper being able to remove a df from someone

Ts is unheard of rn

They had too high expectations

[atomic spindle]

After beating Mihawk, Zoro will be on Shanks' level, makes you wonder how strong Luffy will be in the end

Some dreams of SH members are gonna be delayed to epilogue maybe

[red lagoon]

If zoro beats Mihawk he already passed shanks level

[thick mango]

i dunno if oda will haev the fortitude to do it but id really love to see bb get shanks

[atomic spindle]

I mean extreme diff is not that big of surpassing

[red lagoon]

If he beat Mihawk who above shanks then do the math

[inner agate]

no because then he would do it unfairly someone has to beat shanks fairly to humble his fans

[thick mango]

personally i think that fixation is so dumb

[red lagoon]

Bb finna pack shanks fairly

He already scarred him fairly

[thick mango]

the only fair fight you should expect in the entire rest of the series is zoro v mihawk

no BB probably didnt scar shanks fairly and he probably wont beat him fairly but thats fine. these are pirates. This isnt a martial arts tournament

[red lagoon]

Shanks already said he did it fairly

[atomic spindle]

Well like if Zoro is 100 Shanks is 99 not a notable difference

[inner agate]

he did it fairly

[red lagoon]

He done said he wasn’t off guard

[ruby cape]

BB WIPING SHANKSSSS 🔥

[thick mango]

he said he wasnt caught off guard that doesnt mean fairly necessarily

[red lagoon]

Then what it mean

[thick mango]

it just eliminates one possible way it could have been unfair

[red lagoon]

He was on guard how else he gone get scared fairly

[thick mango]

there are lots

[red lagoon]

Shanks was on guard when bb did ts too him

If it was unfair he wouldn’t have been so scared to him

[thick mango]

it could have been an Nv1, it could have been a way that threatened some innocents or a hostage, etc

[pine ridge]

shanks isn't one to complain about "fairness"

[ornate tartan]

he said he wasn’t careless

[thick mango]

hes scared because BB has no problem being deeply unfair

[red lagoon]

Then he wouldn’t have been so scared of bb

Shanks was on guard and bb got up on him

[thick mango]

no you should be scared of someone who is not at all ashamed to ambush and 10v1 you, thats much more dangerous tahn someone who will only approach you fairly like mihawk

[red lagoon]

Shanks isn’t scared to of that either tho

[ornate tartan]

i’m pretty sure kaido wasn’t careless either when he just stood there and let zoro scar him in wano

[red lagoon]

He said pirates don’t fight fair

[ornate tartan]

unless yall think wano zoro can beat kaido

[red lagoon]

That is completely not the same thing

[thick mango]

thats why the whole fixation is so dumb because barely any fight is truly fair

[red lagoon]

Cause kaido isn’t scared warning ppl about soro

Zoro

[inner agate]

we can try to anticipate fights we arent 100% sure of

[red lagoon]

Kaido isn’t going around to other yonko warning them about the scar Zoro gave him

[thick mango]

the emphasis there was 'fair fight' not speculating about fights in general

[red lagoon]

Shanks was so serious after wb told him to come himself he did by himself

[thick mango]

most fights in this series arent purely fair honor duels

[red lagoon]

Bb just got up on shanks

[atomic spindle]

The scenario in which Zoro has to face Mihawk is still a bit off
Strongest CG member vs second strongest Sh member, maybe Buggy suggests electing a fighter from each side to resolve a conflict

[thick mango]

it seems like it could work well as a finale to a davy back fight

[inner agate]

most characters rely on strength but blackbeard relies more on him being cunning and planning his actions

[ornate tartan]

he’s warning ppl ab blackbeard because he’s the epitome of chaos and can shake up the new era

[thick mango]

yeah exactly i agree for sure. And thats a way to be threatening. Pure fair martial strength isnt the only way to be threatening but its like 90% of what people seem to care about

[ornate tartan]

not because this guy is some all powerful fighter

[wraith mantle]

No

[atomic spindle]

CG lacks the desire to get the one piece

[ornate tartan]

we literally see BB portrayal in like 5 different fights/small exchanges this series

[wraith mantle]

Ragnir is legit such a cool character already

[inner agate]

ragnir hype is like labubu hype

[ornate tartan]

and he doesn’t look menacing at all at the slightest

[red lagoon]

Bb already up on shanks

[thick mango]

I dont think thats true after buggys speech, I think he changed that

[inner agate]

forced love

[wraith mantle]

Labubu is fake

Ragnir is real

[red lagoon]

Why is everyone acting like bb not him

[ornate tartan]

why he run from him then😂 in marineford

[red lagoon]

Cause he’s smart

[inner agate]

bb jumped his father when he was 1 hp

[atomic spindle]

Mihawk and Crocodile are the ones who matter

[red lagoon]

What did bb get from fighting shanks at marineford

What does that benefit him?

He already got his crew and a new devil fruit

[thick mango]

again I think buggy's speech changed that. I think he seized the reins and is no longer just a figurehead

[ornate tartan]

hes smart enough to know he wasn’t strong enough to face the red hair pirates so u are correct

thats why he said not now at least

[thick mango]

what the vast organization rank and file thinks matter

[red lagoon]

Not everyone is Luffy who does pointless fights

[thick mango]

and they think their leader, buggy, has rallied them to chase the one peice

that matters

[red lagoon]

Bb only does fights that benefit him

If there’s nothing to gain why risk losing it all

[thick mango]

croc and hawk cant stop that without actually usurping buggy and I dont think they want to do that

[ornate tartan]

so u admit he’s a coward

[red lagoon]

???

How is that a coward

I just told u he only does fights that benefit him

[ornate tartan]

u can be smart and be a coward at the same time

[red lagoon]

Fighting pointless fights to prove what ur stronger than someone?

[atomic spindle]

Mihawk does not care about it
CG has to face a real threat for him to act

[red lagoon]

Is that brave

[ornate tartan]

his exchange with WB at marineford when he was pinned to the ground proves he is a coward

[frozen ravine]

they chained up ragnir

[red lagoon]

Ok bb is a coward he still up on everyone

[atomic spindle]

Maybe he can control it remotely

[red lagoon]

Nigga deadass the only nigga who always take a W

He allergic to losing

[dense haven]

why didnt ragnir just turned back to a squirrel to escape? is he stupid?

[formal wagon]

lucci would have had all this elbaf crap settled by now

[ornate tartan]

no that’s the smart side of him
shanks literally taught us this lesson in ch 1

but that’s not the reason BB is a coward
he doesnt honor any duels he jumps every opponent he goes up against

which is very on brand for pirates but then again his fans portray him as this guy who challenges ppl 1v1 and doesn’t duck smoke when this guy is the biggest ducker canonically in the series

[thick mango]

its not just the three of them its about their massive organizaztion, who now widely believe that their leader has ralied them to chase the one piece. Croc would have to actually urusp buggy from being a figurehead to stop that momentum and it would probably be messy because their massive organization loves buggy.
Again this is another examlpe of how Its not just about who can win the most 1v1 honor duels. The fact that croc and mihawk could very easily defeat buggy in an honor duel has very little to do with the real practical power buggy weilds through his leadership of the organization \

[dense haven]

I guess that either proves ragnir's real form is a hammer who ate a squrle df or oda is a hack

[atomic spindle]

BB only fights when he has to, like only when the reward is worth risking

[red lagoon]

Then he’s not a coward he’s just a pirate then

[frozen ravine]

if ragnir was a squirrel that ate the hammer fruit he would have died by now

[dense haven]

hes a giant squirrel

[ornate tartan]

what makes him a coward is him begging for his life and trying to get fake sympathy from his foster father after trying to kill him and proceeding to get almost choked out

[dense haven]

giants live up to 200 years

[frozen ravine]

squirrels only live a few years

[inner agate]

squirrel who ate the hammer fruit

[dense haven]

hes a giant squirrel

[frozen ravine]

a giant squirrel would only live like 50 years at most

[steel stirrup]

Which is why I think its a hammer that ate a squirrel fruit

[red lagoon]

How does that even happen tho

[steel stirrup]

🤷🏾‍♂️

[prisma idol]

I'm more willing to bet ragnir is the OG version of vegapunks Weapon fruit fusion tech

That the Ancient kingdom used

[steel stirrup]

Yea

[red lagoon]

I think ragnir from the void century

[atomic spindle]

Buggy is clearly the face of the organization with the bigger impact on followers but the other two don't have to risk their lives for the one piece, they can just pretend to care but never go risk their lives for it

[frozen ravine]

he can loredump chopper

[red lagoon]

Ragnir has been protecting the fruit for centuries so we can fairly assume its had the df for centuries

[ornate tartan]

ragnir is older then void century

he’s probably from 1000 years ago

[red lagoon]

Which means it pre dates vegapunk

[thick mango]

but the risk with that is that the followers think its real. And when threats dont work to prevent buggy from making orders to those followers, the orders become real. And thats what buggy's speech into the loudspeaker was. An order based on his fake position that became real by being believed by the followers

[red lagoon]

A hammer that can’t move can’t protect the df

So ragnir has been moving for 100s of years

I also think it’s made from the poneglyph material

Since it shattered Lokis hammer with haki

It’s incredibly strong

Like that’s an insane feat since we know Loki got acoc too

And we know the pongeglyphs indestructible

[dense haven]

its a poneglyph who ate the shapeshifter df

[atomic spindle]

I get your point but it's hard to see Croc or Mihawk engage with another Yonko crew when needed, they will try to play it sneakily

[dense haven]

@pine scaffold ragnir vs kid who wins

[frozen ravine]

roads pet cat ate the shapeshifter df

[pine scaffold]

I dont wanna say

[red lagoon]

If it’s metal sorry man

https://tenor.com/view/eustass-kid-one-piece-kid-one-piece-evil-smile-gif-20956263

[pine scaffold]

I wanna see hybrid Ragnir

[red lagoon]

U already did

[pine scaffold]

cuz hybrid forms are usually strongest forms

[pine scaffold]

oh wait actually yeah

[hazy echo]

https://fixupx.com/juliethardt/status/2003439754625581125

J Girl (@juliethardt)

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[frozen ravine]

i think ragnirs hammer form is his strongest form

[pine scaffold]

I wanna see squirrel form fighting people

[formal wagon]

i wonder how they got the squirrel zoan into the hammer before vegafraud

[thick mango]

they probably will retain control over the tactics/implementation of how it happens but I dont think they have the ability to go back on buggy's directive that the overall goal of the cross guild right now is to race for the one peice

[frozen ravine]

i want to see chopper feed it rumble balls

[craggy vapor]

Oda when he reads 90% of the theories here

[pine scaffold]

Ragnir is huge btw

like bigger than hajrudin

[formal wagon]

squirrel zoan for a hammer is so useless bro 😭

do you hold it by the tail to use it?

[pine scaffold]

what is Oda cooking

[red lagoon]

U hold it by the handle..

[pine scaffold]

this is like giving it a dolphin fruit

[tranquil blade]

Well the Squirrel zoan let's the hammer have sentience

[formal wagon]

i guess it makes the hammer have the power of a squirrel

[pine scaffold]

what can it do ☠️

[tranquil blade]

and idk it might be a special squirrel

[dense haven]

a flying squirrel

so the hammer can fly

[frozen ravine]

i thought the ratotskr zoan would look like this

[pine scaffold]

wait isnt Luffy a flying squirrel?

[formal wagon]

when its in its normal form yeah, but the hybrid makes it half squirrel

[red lagoon]

U know ur not forced to use the hammer in hybrid form

[red lagoon]

Then don’t use it in hybrid form

[hazy echo]

Found this gif again

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-franky-egghead-anime-pov-gif-7915639519336345490

[red lagoon]

😭😭

[pine scaffold]

OMG

[craggy vapor]

people are murdering Usopp in #manga right now. Better don’t go there.

[formal wagon]

ODA IS A GENIUS. HAMMERS ARE FOR CRACKING NUTS. SQUIRRELS ALSO CRACK NUTS

[frozen ravine]

holy fiveshadowing goda

[formal wagon]

right but that means the zoan is useless and its just a normal hammer

[atomic spindle]

Yeah my point, will they engage in a battle vs a Yonko if it's necessary for the one piece? I don't think so, they will avoid it

[red lagoon]

No cause the hammer can fight by itself

[formal wagon]

bro

[pine scaffold]

Ngl Luffy's powers are so creepy looking sometimes

[red lagoon]

It’s a hammer that doesn’t need someone to fight

That’s not useless

It has the option to be a hammer

And the option to fight by itself

[pine scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-one-piece-luffy-luffy-one-piece-rubber-luffy-rubber-gif-26349251

[formal wagon]

[pine scaffold]

this freaks me out

more than find it funny

😭

[formal wagon]

is nami evil?

yeah

[thick mango]

thats part of what I like about davy back fight idea even if its not croc's style its defniitely buggys and I think croc would apperciate how it limits their risk compared to a full on fight

[frozen ravine]

why doesnt luffy ever do this

[thick mango]

mihawk is kind of a davy back fight ace in the hole too

in croc's estimation that's 1 guaranteed win of a round

[carmine frigate]

that's not how Luffy works except in Gear 5

[red lagoon]

Cause he can’t

Unless in g5 he can now I guess

[pine scaffold]

wtf bruh

THANK U ODA FOR NOT LETTING LUFFY DO THIS

[frozen ravine]

its mr fantastic

[hazy echo]

Why doesn't Luffy do this

[frozen ravine]

thats katakuris move

[pine scaffold]

Cuz its too goofy ngl

it looks dumb

[vital heart]

Maha > Guernica

[carmine frigate]

luffy's body is rubber. mr fantastic is cosmic nonsense

[blazing depot]

Mr Fantastic’s real superpower is making you uncomfortable

[atomic spindle]

Yeah our whole conversation started on what scenario can make Zoro vs Mihawk fight happen while being relevant to the progress of the story

[tranquil blade]

It honestly looks like his head tore here idk if he's even supposed to be able to do that

[thick mango]

it actually works for all of them

• buggy: it fits with his style, its plotty, its flashy, its bombastic. It ups his reputation
• croc: it limits risk aand resources, allowing him to go along with the OP plan without commiting too much of his wealth and taking too much risk
• hawk: it gives him an opportunity to honor duel some of the strongest fighters in the world, which seems to be his main joy in life

[pine scaffold]

what is even happening

I dont like this at all

[frozen ravine]

it benefits croc because he can just move onto a better crew

[red lagoon]

There is no need

FOR HIS EYE

TO BE DOIN

TS

[pine scaffold]

WHO ASKED FOR THIS????

[hazy echo]

He stretch good

[pine scaffold]

bro is tryna be Zoro

Ashura

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-one-piece1027-one-piece-episode1027-roof-piece-roof-piece1027-gif-26352807

[pine ridge]

is this more than 72 gomu gomus

[atomic spindle]

The man marked by flames is now a target for all yonkos, a 4 way or 2vs2 can happen

[pine scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/mrkerbs-spongebob-thecrustykerb-minecraft-fortnite-gif-25600639

nothing is ever beating OG spongebob

[vital heart]

Bro wheres weevil moria perona doflamingo hancock marco king queen judge caesar marco????? The other future cross guild members

[tranquil blade]

king sneak

[atomic spindle]

The end game or top sides we have in the story are WG, Navy(may split in two), Revs, SH, BB, Red Hair, CG, some clashes have to happen simultanously if we are to approach the end

[vital heart]

@thick mango

[tranquil blade]

the other ones are techically possible, Marco only joins if Weevil joins and even then it'd have to be for like some really specific reason to wanna stick with Weevil