also-manga

[ocean totem]

^

[cedar timber]

Then binge some anime

[ocean totem]

Haki doesn't stop Akainu from being magma, for example. Or Kuzan from being ice

[cloud adder]

lemme check the ray training chapter (nice name color change btw)

[steel stirrup]

Woah that Role color is saucy

[ornate tartan]

choose the greatest role color

[cloud adder]

gimme the RHP captain fancy color 🙏

[wraith mantle]

hasnt that always been bean's color?

[tranquil blade]

For like 10 years

Yes

[cloud adder]

you missed it 🐌

[ocean totem]

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/holding-a-basketball-michael-jordan-mj-jordan-chicago-bulls-gif-16999943

[tranquil blade]

Well 9 years but yknow

[wraith mantle]

bro is white now

[steel stirrup]

It was always WB role at first

[wraith mantle]

nvm

[cloud adder]

YOOO || gold role ||

[dapper tree]

niceeee

[steel stirrup]

Bro flexing now

[tranquil blade]

Gold role, do the other mods even know that exists

[steel stirrup]

Damn Celestials and their hidden roles

[cedar timber]

Ayo that colour is even more crazy

[wraith mantle]

this the color yall seeing?

[steel stirrup]

Yea

[grand flower]

My boy okama bean laden

[wraith mantle]

LMAO

[steel stirrup]

💀

Thats hella clever

I hate it😭

[cedar timber]

Fr how did bro even thought of that

[grand flower]

My dad would name his dogs shit like Osama and saddam

[steel stirrup]

😭😭

[grand flower]

Actually insane person

[ocean totem]

Loki's probably stronger than Shanks but ya'll aren't ready for that conversation

[grand flower]

So I feel like I’ve just been mulling on those words for so long

[cloud adder]

loki will be relative to luffy and luffy will surpass shanks so loki being stronger than shanks is quite reasonable

[steel stirrup]

Ive been ready for a while

[wraith mantle]

current loki is stronger than shanks?

[cloud adder]

not yet

[trim lily]

maybe socrates and bean would get along after all

[cloud adder]

SOON

[wraith mantle]

kinda hard to digest considering shanks beat him

[cloud adder]

6 years ago bro cmon

TIME MATTERS

[wraith mantle]

yeah EOS is a whole different story

[wraith mantle]

time doesn't matter when you are chaind to a tree lmao

[trim lily]

do you not know about the prison buff

being imprisoned simply makes you stronger passively

[vital heart]

Explain how Shanks beat him then

[ocean totem]

Crew

[dapper tree]

haki diff

[vital heart]

Crew has negligable impact on the outcome of that fight

[thick mango]

There could be a dozen different reasons shanks won despite being weaker in a pure 1v1
But it doesn't really matter. Winning is what matters. Not being good at 1v1s

[grand flower]

I agree. Shanks cheated

[ocean totem]

With Beckman? Not at all

[vital heart]

theyre higher order terms that are so small, theyre just rounding errors

[wraith mantle]

i mean i doubt anyone on shanks crew other than benn can contribute to that fight in any meaningful way

[cloud adder]

for a char like loki, i wouldnt be surprised if all those years chained up led him to build some tolerance to being fully weakened by sea prism

[vital heart]

Yes bruh Beckman is so overhyped for literally no reason. he is so overhyped to the point he has actually went 1170 chapters with 0 feats, positive and negative.

[dapper tree]

looks at dragon and mihawk

[thick mango]

Imo the response isn't no actually shanks must have 1v1 him, it's that 1v1 ability doesn't matter at all

[cloud adder]

still level of RHPs slander is crazy work

[ornate tartan]

Meek
a Kid 2.0 situation is brewing

[trim lily]

he took kid’s arm but that’s balanced out by him doing nothing to kizaru

[wraith mantle]

hmm so bro improved his endurance or something

[ornate tartan]

the crashout is gonna be hillarious

when will ppl learn😂

[vital heart]

the crew is in the O(|x|^4) , as in they have 0 impact

[trim lily]

ew taylor series

[vital heart]

fr

[tranquil blade]

I really hope so because it finally means Shanks is not a god anymore and I dont have to hear "godking Shanks" be uttered ever again

[wraith mantle]

i used to no diff this shit

[trim lily]

truncate that shit at third power

[wraith mantle]

i was strong

[ocean totem]

He gets hyped because Beckman was compared to Shanks recently

[cloud adder]

he made kizaru put his hands up in one of his very few appearances

[tranquil blade]

Beckmann might have been the one to take Kid's arm in the first place so he's fairly powerful

Enough to make a difference I think

[vital heart]

Well Dragon does have feats in GV that show that he's relatively equal to Marineford Luffy (debatable sure). Dragon is the 2nd strongest person rn behind Imu imo. Mihawk is just slightly below to Shanks - i think of it as an Akainu/Aokiji or Zoro/Sanji power dynamic.

[wraith mantle]

is there any reason to believe that benn is stronger than king for example?

[vital heart]

what when

[sweet anvil]

Don’t forget Wassop and Woux

[cloud adder]

benn doesnt turn his brain off

[dapper tree]

what feats? surviving getting exploded

[vital heart]

This is not a feat. This doesnt count as anything actually

[sweet anvil]

Power cliffing

[wraith mantle]

is that like an actual thing lol

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/holding-a-basketball-michael-jordan-mj-jordan-chicago-bulls-gif-16999943

[cloud adder]

its 100% a feat, he made kizaru pause from killing luffy, one of the main targets at MF

[sweet anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/posted-up-baby-niche-67-six-seven-baby-giraffes-gif-16010540863875585039

[tranquil blade]

Mostly cause Luffy's little side goal is to surpass Shanks and become a great pirate, which means likely Zoro will need to surpass Beckmann, so if Luffy hasnt surpassed Shanks yet then Zoro probably hasnt surpassed Beckmann

[vital heart]

Bruh its not a feat for or against him. Dont worry im not saying bad things. Kizaru was clearly playing around

[wraith mantle]

eh

[cloud adder]

king dropping one of the highest levels of defense we've seen in the series in a deciding fight against zoro
tell me if thats brain on or off type shit

[wraith mantle]

oh LMAO

[golden valley]

Benn gotta have anti feats to be overhyped

[dapper tree]

king threw his fight

[cloud adder]

why would kizaru play around at that moment tho, how does that make sense?

[pulsar path]

I really kinda feel this

[golden valley]

Its not Benn fans fault hes compared to admirals and his captain

[wraith mantle]

my boy king wanted to show zoro whos boss

but kinda backfired

[vital heart]

king bet against himself on kalshi and polymarket ☠️

[sweet anvil]

For like 5 seconds

[golden valley]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-the-way-it-is-gif-23020408

[tranquil blade]

but also in general Shanks's crew is highly regarded compared to even other emperor crews for having no soft targets and a high average, I'm figuring Beckmann is pretty strong

[sweet anvil]

Not ridiculous to say at all

[cloud adder]

those 5 seconds allowed law and luffy to live dude, every second is major in a war like MF

[wraith mantle]

wonder what benn's powers are

[cloud adder]

ppl really dont read the full context of the beckman and kizaru interaction

[wraith mantle]

hopefully hes not just a haki man

[golden valley]

Acoc bullets

[golden valley]

Now be for real

[sweet anvil]

Idk man Marco would stopped him for like a solid minute

[tranquil blade]

Hes definitely just a haki guy

[golden valley]

Benn is 100% a haki man

[vital heart]

IMO Benn is effectively a Shanks with a gun, thats massively weaker than the real Shanks.

[tranquil blade]

That's the entire Red haired pirates

[pulsar path]

Tbh I wouldn't say gods knights are weak but they don't seem to have like that omph..plus if we were to believe one way to Gabben saying it is that no gods knights have Coc?!? Doffy does

[wraith mantle]

give him some special lineage or something

[cloud adder]

kizaru went back to going after luffy (AFTER kuzan made a move btw) AFTER Shanks declared RHPs were at MF on defense, not offense - kizaru only went back to doing his job when he got the details that RHPs arent shooting first

[thick mango]

Zoro is just luffy with a sword that's massively weaker

[golden valley]

Benn is alr unique because his main weapon is a gun

[thick mango]

Croc is just buggy with a logia that's massively weaker

[sweet anvil]

The Hk feel like nuisances to the top tiers and not actual threats ngl

[cloud adder]

marco got himself locked up, LLLLLLLL

[golden valley]

People of benn’s caliber don’t use guns

So benn gotta be cracked

[dense haven]

yall liked the chapter?

[cloud adder]

decent chapter

[sweet anvil]

He actually held of kizaru though

[pulsar path]

It feels like they were created to make creative way for characters to beat them or plot devices lol

[wraith mantle]

10/10 chapter

[ocean totem]

But they do tho lol

[wraith mantle]

several hard hitting moments

[cloud adder]

not crazy hype, and definitely not bad, good chapter

[golden valley]

As a main weapon?

[sweet anvil]

There’s a reason shanks wanted a goat like Marco on his crew

Marco is him

[vital heart]

What? The entire gorosei use guns, you idiot

[tranquil blade]

Roger held a gun that one time he was about to get folded by Shiki's fleet

[wraith mantle]

i feel like shanks would have been like "SIKE" because marco has a fruit

[ocean totem]

I'm trying to think of some but at the least we've seen commanders using guns as their main weapon

[indigo granite]

Maybe Marco had some of WB haki in a knot?

[ocean totem]

like Izo

[wraith mantle]

and shanks seems to have a strict NO fruit rule

[ocean totem]

and more of a stretch but Curiel

[golden valley]

I think Benn is a step above those guys

[tranquil blade]

Curiel is at least Moria level maybe

[vital heart]

The gorosei uses guns @golden valley

[ornate tartan]

world drowning

[vital heart]

Source: Chapter 1085

[dapper tree]

And Izo with guns pierces kaido level defense

[golden valley]

The lower tier characters use guns

As mains

[vital heart]

Warcury uses a gun

[tranquil blade]

Izo is pretty tuff tho

[cloud adder]

so again, context matters here
marco and WB pirates pulled up because they were one half of the war lmao
shanks and his crew pulled up to stop the fighting
beckman warned kizaru but kizaru was able to call the bluff AFTER shanks declared he's there to stop the war, beckman cant actually attack kizaru unless kizaru goes after beckman first

[wraith mantle]

acoc bullets sound kinda tough

[vital heart]

Legitimately all 5 are holding a gun

[golden valley]

Now show me them using it in egghead

[tranquil blade]

Warcury is a demon power merchant

[vital heart]

Why do I have to?

[wraith mantle]

too bad he doesn't seem to be a sniper tho, mid range fighter kinda guy

[vital heart]

Do they have to use a gun 100% of the time?

[golden valley]

Cuz we’re talking about main weapons

Like Yasopp

Or Izo

[vital heart]

1 fight cannot be a big enough sample size to determine a main weapon

So egghead is irrelevant

[pulsar path]

Wait if all the goresei have coc does that mean garland does? Are they borrowing imus haki?

[ornate tartan]

Yasopp will have ACOC
pencil it in

[indigo granite]

Nah garling was using a knot

[cloud adder]

are you a shanks-has-special-fighting-style (not just swordsmanship) believer?

[vital heart]

Yes

[sweet anvil]

He could stop his attacks though

[pulsar path]

I don't think garling was even shown doing that lmao

[ornate tartan]

then the usopp fans gonna be celebrating

[vital heart]

Shanks uses a mix of Garp and Roger's fighting styles from GV.

[golden valley]

If its a main weapon, then its not something they’d not utilize in a fight that costs them their entire goal

[sweet anvil]

Kromes finally cooking 🥹

[indigo granite]

It runs in the rat family, trust me he has a knot

[sweet anvil]

Bro ?

[cloud adder]

nah, kizaru has too much range with his light projectiles for beckman to defend against without attacking kizaru directly

[ornate tartan]

I always cook bro

thank u for the kind words

[golden valley]

Shanks isn’t pulling up to a top tier battle without his sword

[golden valley]

Which is his main weapon

[cloud adder]

its his opener

[tranquil blade]

Shanks is NOT fighting like Garp

[golden valley]

His opener?!

[tranquil blade]

That is not a thing

[cloud adder]

shanks starts with the sword, because everyone knows he uses a sword

[golden valley]

Thats his opener and finisher

[cloud adder]

he leaves the tricks for deeper fights

[vital heart]

FACTS

[vital heart]

???'

[cloud adder]

finisher if he doesnt get pushed to special techs in the fight

if youre not good enough, you dont see shanks' full arsenal, shrimple

[ornate tartan]

mimi
is that pfp from the jump festa 2026 drawing

[vital heart]

Knowledge King Shanks?

[cloud adder]

hell yeah, peak jump festa

[golden valley]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-rayleigh-silvers-old-man-tears-gif-19898148

[cloud adder]

it only took 6 OF THEM

[frigid gulch]

These guys never learn

[dense haven]

if luffy made 200 haki knots and gave it to usopp could he finally beat the elbaf cat

[pulsar path]

Damn lmao

[sweet anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/marco-the-phoenix-marco-kizaru-one-piece-marineford-gif-25954741

[buoyant comet]

I have arrived 😁

[sweet anvil]

This is what a goat does

[dense pike]

I really hope Morgans' balloon hooks up with the strawhats soon. Not just cus of Vivi, but cus I wanna see Morgans get an exclusive interview with all the strawhats

[ornate tartan]

oh I love marco btw

[golden valley]

Benn shoots the light

[ornate tartan]

don’t think i ever talked ab him😂

[cloud adder]

wow, marco used his DEVIL FRUIT to have insane range in blocking another DEVIL FRUIT ability

[golden valley]

With acoc bullets

[dark nymph]

extreme diff fight for usopp

[ornate tartan]

he hasn’t been in the story for so long

[dark nymph]

(the cat wins)

[buoyant comet]

That would be really cool actually

[sweet anvil]

Should’ve made a haki shield ig

[cloud adder]

(the cat wins)

[golden valley]

Benn ACoC bullets and Kidd’s ACoC railgun will go crazy final war

[cloud adder]

beckman is not haki projection level, i will concede at this pt of the debate 💔

would be insanely cute if all the RHPs had their own haki-animal projections tho

[buoyant comet]

Does Beckman have any use considering that Yassop is the greatest shooter?

[golden valley]

We have to see

What makes them different

[dense pike]

exactly and then he could include Vivi in that interview as he leaves her in their care, since she would be safe now

[sweet anvil]

I think Beckmann uses a sword too

[golden valley]

Eh

I think Benn uses his gun as a blunt type of attack

[cloud adder]

Beckman is the club-guy but also the "whatever you need" guy

[vital heart]

Whats a haki projection?

[sweet anvil]

Why not just use a bagua or whatever kaido uses though

[golden valley]

https://tenor.com/view/benn-beckmann-gif-22030925

[cloud adder]

https://tenor.com/view/shanks-one-piece-divine-departure-kamusari-kid-gif-11233119155278399459

[brittle basin]

Why have one pew pew guy when you can have two?

[buoyant comet]

He must have muscle memory considering the amount of times he swinged his gun instead of shooting with it

[sweet anvil]

Nvm you right

[golden valley]

Benn be wackin dudes with his gun

[cloud adder]

goat moves

[sweet anvil]

The 1 red haired pirate I really want to see is Yassop

We never see snipers

Like outside of augur

[dense pike]

Mimi!

[buoyant comet]

Just give him a bat it would have been cooler than a rifle that's never used 😭

[brittle basin]

You had Sniper King. You've had enough. Move along now.

[dark nymph]

Why have two pew pew guys when you can have three?

[golden valley]

Im excited for Benn, Yasopp and Lucky Roo

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/view/unlucky-unfortunate-bad-luck-mask-gif-12854390

[golden valley]

More than I am Shanks tbh

[cloud adder]

he left the bat on the red force, sorry man

[sweet anvil]

That was 800 chapters ago 😭

[sweet anvil]

Fr

[buoyant comet]

I'm more interested in Lucky Roux. I wonder what his fighting style is. I'll be really disappointed if Oda has him doing belly attacks

[cloud adder]

hellohello lemon!!

[golden valley]

Im convinced Roo has a shock absorption ability with his fat (no offense to those of similar weight)

[sweet anvil]

It’s sad that they’ll probably lose their first fight even though I like them so much

[dark nymph]

Lucky Roo will feed families

[ornate tartan]

maji another ball knower

[brittle basin]

I remember it like it was yesterday.

[dense pike]

Ben Bat-man 😭 ⚾️

[cloud adder]

ONLY HOMERUNS AROUND HERE ⚾

(with the occasional saucy punt tho)

[ornate tartan]

literally and figuratively

[golden valley]

https://tenor.com/view/luck-roo-gif-21631281

Goat

[dark nymph]

he 4x'd in size

[buoyant comet]

Chopper unlocks conquers haki on elbaf

[cloud adder]

how did you feel about lucky roo's red fit in film red?

[golden valley]

I think all the red hairs had good fits in film red

[dark nymph]

next time we see him he'll be even bigger

[dense pike]

MERRY SHANKSMAS!!

[cloud adder]

toei made RHPs really glossy

[brittle basin]

This is the only one that's ever been funny. Good job whoever did this.

[cloud adder]

MERRY (BELATED) SHANKSMAS

[ornate tartan]

I agree buffy

[dense pike]

only the sauciest though

[brittle basin]

[cloud adder]

the vista version of the upscale meme is my favorite

[ornate tartan]

but there’s one that was crazy when i first saw it

[golden valley]

Ragnir is the best new introduced character

[vital heart]

In WIT Piece, do you think its likely that Shanks is gonna use a full ACOC beam when staring at the Lord of the Coast in Chapter 1?

Or in Ep 1 , do we think that we'll see the true Roger and not that mythologized version?

Or in Ep 1, do we think we'll get a brief hint that the Gomu = Nika and that Shanks stole it from Whos Who?

Or if Shanks had the shallows covenant on his arm in Ep 1?

Do you think this may or may not happen?

Folks - give me thoughts! @brittle basin @ornate tartan @cloud adder

[dense pike]

I love the Big Mom one when its used in any context involving food 😭

[clever idol]

Lmaooo

[dapper tree]

no

[vital heart]

To which???????

[dark nymph]

to all probably

they are just gonna adapt it how it is in the manga

[tranquil blade]

It's gonna be even more manga accurate than the toei anime was

[vital heart]

Bru h why?

[tranquil blade]

So no abyss mark, Roger will still be his gross legendary self, Shanks will not have haki beams

Wdym why

[vital heart]

WHY

[ornate tartan]

1st one-yea
2nd one- probably, u cooked
3rd- long shot

and would be cool if he had the mark

[dapper tree]

no

[vital heart]

Its more consistent with current manga retcons

[latent hamlet]

the hell is WIT piece lol

[thick mango]

No. Haki should remain mysterious till time skip as it was in the manga

[ornate tartan]

one piece remake anime

[dark nymph]

nose hair roger will be in wit piece fs

[tranquil blade]

Yeah but it also spoils stuff if you do that, and it's trying to remain consistent to how the manga was

[golden valley]

Will wit piece be a canon adaptation?

If it isn’t, i aint watchin it

[tranquil blade]

It's not gonna show like some chapter 1100's stuff during episode 1

[vital heart]

bruh.....

😭

[somber flare]

Wit is getting dropped after 1 season bro

[ocean totem]

It's Loki on the --> @dapper tree

[tranquil blade]

It'll be more manga accurate than toei's version

[dark nymph]

thats fine, thats still a massive W

[latent hamlet]

oh thats what you're calling it
um, i think haki might be sort of like live action garp in a way?
like that one sus zoom in and then him dodging the punch, i remember people saying its garp using haki

[somber flare]

They take too damn long

[dense pike]

how mfs feel after saying
"Haki… is flawed"
-# (theyre right, but so are 7000 others who said it)

[latent hamlet]

like i dont think its gonna be blatantly obvious but they might animate it in a way thats like....its not just a normal intimidation stare

[dapper tree]

Yooo, actually

[cloud adder]

oof, i hope WIT doesnt overdo the conqs haki against lord of the coast scene - i think Toei did it perfectly (subtle moment, basically as if it was luffy's POV), like all of the redos we've seen of luffy's shanks flashback are just BAD

i think episode 1 should give us mythologized Roger, pirate king needs that aura

i dont mind ep 1 teasing the nika fruit details in a VERY subtle manner, maybe just some extra dialogue from the RHPs about acquiring it but not going too into detail

YES THEY SHOULD TEASE SHANKS ARM TAT 🔥

[latent hamlet]

mythologized roger should be done yea

[ocean totem]

Either there or above the tree, but I remember everyone thinking it was a machine

[thick mango]

Personally I think it'd be worse if they made it more extra than the manga was. It should remain a basic intimidating stare

[ocean totem]

Maybe that's just the fruit

[dense pike]

@thick mango youd enjoy this

[latent hamlet]

we didnt really see the "real" roger till like when?
Oden flashback?

[proud pivot]

how do you do the little text

[dapper tree]

above the tree

for sure

[dark nymph]

wit piece will sadly not have that one scene of Luffy and that old man in the bar

[wraith mantle]

hope yall had a fantastic holiday season

[pulsar path]

Like dead ass I wonder how many time doffy beat gods knights out of his way

[dense pike]

-# trade secret

[ocean totem]

It's just the wings that get me

[pulsar path]

If they keep coming for shanks

[ocean totem]

It didn't seem like Loki had wings

[vital heart]

Which? the right hand side serpent?

[dark nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/luffy-roger-loguetown-compared-to-roger-luffy-and-roger-gif-17969008073207033036

[proud pivot]

-# i see

[thick mango]

Yes I want him as a side character for at least one arc. Maybe not like loki level in elbaf but he could be like harudjin level. Or gaban level. In terms of page time

[tranquil blade]

There was theory about Loki being connected to that serpent

[dense pike]

-# youre in the trade now

[vital heart]

-# trade secret :NamiWink:

[ocean totem]

Or the dragon at the top

[dense pike]

https://tenor.com/view/starman-superman-hero-starman-superman-gif-5670562936153558097

[dapper tree]

that part was blocked off. oda hiding thinghs

[buoyant comet]

Geeked in vs Locked in

[wraith mantle]

DF fruit reveal next chapter?

[tranquil blade]

No

[wraith mantle]

or is it gonna be a couple more chapters of blueballing

[buoyant comet]

Nah next chapter is end of flashback

[tranquil blade]

Oda is hiding it until Loki fights in the current day

Which is uh kinda soon

[dense pike]

but whatd you think abt the interviewing idea?

[buoyant comet]

Loki's df will be revealed when he fights luffy

[vital heart]

wait I've never noticed this with the Harley

Is the fire coming out of the serpent's mouth or is it coming out of the dragon's mouth? or is it not even fire???

[vital heart]

@ocean totem @tranquil blade Dissect this!

[tranquil blade]

It's coming out of both

[vital heart]

HOW

WHAT?

[buoyant comet]

It's c9ming out of both

[vital heart]

THATS INSANE

I've never noticed that detail

[stone terrace]

I just dont want it to be some lame quadruped

[vital heart]

How would that even work?

[ocean totem]

They're fighting

[stone terrace]

Fenrir

[dapper tree]

meek, you need to read

[tranquil blade]

Wdym how would that work

[thick mango]

Yeah I think he'd take the chance if he got it. Idk how down luffy would be to cooperate though

[buoyant comet]

Momonosuke vs kaido

[dense pike]

that is insane that you never noticed that
get better eyes

[vital heart]

Then the fires should look different for both animals

[pulsar path]

I see it as a power struggle like two energy waves form dragon ball or the representation that these two being canceled each other out(. Took it as the ancient weapons )

[tranquil blade]

They fuckin shoot fire at each other idk man

[vital heart]

This is not related to reading, rather attention to detail

[buoyant comet]

It's not that hard to comprehend 😭

[ocean totem]

Why? It's all drawn in the same style

[dapper tree]

which you lack

[stone terrace]

How many times is the mera mera gonna get shat on

[tranquil blade]

Forever

[buoyant comet]

Until Sabo neg diffs akainu

[tranquil blade]

It's actually still a good fruit but it isnt as unique of an ability

[cloud adder]

oda made fire too basic of an attack option

[buoyant comet]

Fire fist was actually op

[dark nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/usopp-one-piece-anime-long-nose-fire-gif-17145012

[dense pike]

i think if it involves reuniting with Vivi I think hed be in the mood for it, especially if Vivi encourages him (either to boost public support, or cus thats how she got Morgans to agree)

[buoyant comet]

He literally gave everyone fire abilities 😭

Ussop, Sanji, Zoro, Luffy

[stone terrace]

In that same vein im not super pumped about ragnir having the lightning but thats just what mythical zoans do eh

[buoyant comet]

Everyone has flames atp it ain't even a df power

[dark nymph]

kinda sad that usopp barely ever uses this... pop greens are worst addition ever

[thick mango]

Vivi doesn't seem as grateful as she oughta be

[buoyant comet]

oda should retcon Mera Mera no mi to haki haki no mi

[tranquil blade]

Does Ratatoskr or whatever its name is even have lightning powers?

[stone terrace]

Not from what i have seen

[mental lake]

https://tenor.com/view/sabaody-one-piece-fight-fighting-armor-gif-9175227196498429131

[tranquil blade]

I'm wondering if it's just something to do with the material of the hammer itself

[dense pike]

true, but i could see her commanding Morgans to take the blimp to Elbaph, and convincing him by saying she can give him an exclusive interview with the strawhats

[cosmic hamlet]

-# noob

[tranquil blade]

Like the hammer hitting something triggers a lightning strike

[cloud adder]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-sad-ace-ace-one-piece-one-piece-gif-22319324

[dense pike]

she alr figured it out tho…

[buoyant comet]

Luffy would be ecstatic to get an interview on the newspaper. He'll be like this way the people from Foosha village can receive my messages or smth

[cosmic hamlet]

Still noob

[dense pike]

Arisu slander is NOT welcomed

[buoyant comet]

The gist Wranky

[stone terrace]

Im hoping lokis fruit does some really interesting stuff

[buoyant comet]

Where did gist come from bro 😭

[stone terrace]

Rocks alludes to it being important

[buoyant comet]

I meant goat

[stone terrace]

So hopefully its not like a reskinned yamatos fruit

[dark nymph]

reskinned yamato and reskinned enel

[buoyant comet]

Me personally I think it's gonna be a shapeshifting devil fruit

[tranquil blade]

Loki is the new Yamato

[dark nymph]

this would be cool

and Loki can shapeshift to get on the ship

[ruby moat]

i dont like loki becoming smaller for most of his time so he can fit on the ship bc then he just has chopper's gimmick

[pulsar path]

Yo like kin Riku and doffy story is alot like Harold lol

[proud pivot]

ok bruh

[dense pike]

hey Ragnir is NOT reskinned Enel! 😤
hes a reskinned Zeus, get it right!

[somber flare]

Loki aint joining the straw hats

[pulsar path]

Did it happen 40 years ago? So like the same year as God valley?

Or did I get that wrong

[golden valley]

Loki should be a serpent

[stone terrace]

Has the statute of limitations passed for the events of god valley yet

[golden valley]

I think i find that to be the coolest

Dragon and Wolf are okay, but not particularly unique anymore

[dense pike]

uh oh, good question
Ms. Bakin still on the chopping block 💔

[ruby moat]

serpent is cool but i feel we're already kinda past that like it's gotta be some kinda quadruped doesnt it

[vital heart]

Bartsky

You gotta read my theory

[ruby moat]

is it the resin fruit

i never read the original resin fruit theory so i'll be more open to it than most

[pulsar path]

What if the hands we see are just it's hybrid form

[cosmic hamlet]

Are you shanks fan?

[proud pivot]

no

i am neutral

[ruby moat]

Oh true I forgot about the hybrid form

[cosmic hamlet]

[shadow python]

Oh I had a question about the squirrel

[proud pivot]

wbu

[shadow python]

Ms. Merry Christmas had said that lasso was a gun that ate the mutt mutt fruit and that it was the newest tech on the grand line. But that was 2 years ago from the present and the squirrel is 14 years ago. With the hammer presumably defending for generations beforehand as Harald said multiple kings tried and failed to get the fruit the squirrel protected

[pulsar path]

It's hard for me not to like shanks when I read chapter 1 when it was first published in the USA and it was the only chapter I had for a month lol

But a shanks "fan" idk

[cosmic hamlet]

I'm not a fan but i like the character

[cosmic hamlet]

Nice art by your bf

[shadow python]

If the technology is recent the squirrel shouldn't exist. It's also odd for them to do such a thing to begin with. Which leads me to think the squirrel is from the void century when this technology was commonplace and the fruit was protected from the govt. As a way to fight back in the future

[proud pivot]

wtf now

[cosmic hamlet]

What? You wrote in bio its drawn by your best friend

[dark nymph]

borger

[shadow python]

If the squirrel is from the void century though we have firsthand perspective of the lost history of the world and Chopper can communicate perfectly with him (or her I guess)

[proud pivot]

thats bsf not bf

[cosmic hamlet]

Ohhh

[proud pivot]

bf is boyfriend

[shadow python]

Bf is Baby five

[cosmic hamlet]

I didn't do it intentionally

[shadow python]

Or Baby four but we don't talk much about Baby four

[cosmic hamlet]

Btw i have a shanks fan art, do you want me to send in your dm? I cannot send it here

[proud pivot]

no you can keep it

[cosmic hamlet]

😭 its sfw

[proud pivot]

i dont want it

[fallen meteor]

why cant you send it here

[cosmic hamlet]

Alright 🚬

[cosmic hamlet]

You will know if you see it

[ruby moat]

oh!

Shape shifting would be cool

[dapper tree]

no

[fallen meteor]

saw someone on reddit saying their fruit is a mythical elbaf lore zoan

[dense haven]

loki is clearly a horse

[fallen meteor]

like he can do anything norse

[ocean totem]

Goddammit meek

[fallen meteor]

it had like 10k likes too

no idea what people are thinking

[ruby moat]

norse lore norse lore no mi 🔥

[fallen meteor]

its clearly the cloud logia

[cosmic hamlet]

Yes, its a bo

[dapper tree]

no

[dapper tree]

sounds made up

[cosmic hamlet]

[shadow python]

Still weaker than bonneys fruit

[dark nymph]

mfs really just making up creatures now

[shadow python]

Which is also a thing Bonney can do

[cosmic hamlet]

In Chinese mythology, "Bo" (駮) refers to a fierce, horse-like mythical beast from the classic text Classic of Mountains and Seas, known for its white body, black tail, single horn, tiger's claws/teeth, and drum-like voice, which hunts tigers and leopards and protects against weapons, symbolizing justice; it can also refer to Hebo (河伯), the Yellow River God, a water deity, or even the name for a skilled horse judge, Bo Le (伯樂), but the creature is the most common mythical "Bo".

[dark nymph]

horse!

[pseudo gulch]

One Piece will have people research every myth and mythological creature ever created

[dapper tree]

def made up, lol

[balmy surge]

bro like luffy comes in top 10 strongest alive or even in top 5 strongest alive people and there are not so many people luffy has to fight like most it would be 3 to 4 character and from that 3 to 4 , zoro will handle 1 and other sanji and left one most probably loki so most probably they are close to there prime now but if we see zoro he is still weak than mihawk so how this will come to end in short time and yeah joyboy was able to over power imu so also luffy will able to do the same

[tranquil blade]

everything is made up what are you talking about

[cosmic hamlet]

Everything is made up

[tranquil blade]

well except that one uh future warhammer guy

[dapper tree]

Thank you

[somber flare]

meek has a great theory

the name might need a rework though

[dark nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-gif-13449701

[tranquil blade]

[blazing depot]

I had a brilliant idea

[cosmic hamlet]

Said the same, the name is lame

[blazing depot]

We should invite Stephen Paul for an interview here and also have him talk to Meek

Like in VC

[tranquil blade]

He might retire from translating and Meek might get banned

It would be interesting but something tells me it would not go well

[somber flare]

Viz is gonna poach Meek from TCB

[steel stirrup]

I dont trust Meek to behave himself not gonna lie

[blazing depot]

https://tenor.com/view/soldierboy-soldier-boy-theboys-disappointed-gif-26627025

[fallen meteor]

i mean sure but why

[vital heart]

I would be well behaved

[tranquil blade]

because it kinda looks like the one silhoutte

[vital heart]

I just have some things I would like to get off my chest when talking to Stephen

[vital heart]

what does this mean

[tranquil blade]

Pasta knows what it means

[fallen meteor]

i mean...maybe my Ahuizotl theory is right too

[tranquil blade]

Looks like a yugioh card

[fallen meteor]

i think looks is wild to base on one piece

oda always makes something up looks wise

whats the name of yamatos df again

[dark nymph]

no one remembers that shit 🙏

[somber flare]

We would already know if Oda wasn't a hack and just showed us

[tranquil blade]

okuchi no makami

[fallen meteor]

while googing for that i found this peak thumbnail

[dapper tree]

[dark nymph]

ai could never

[tranquil blade]

Who the hell is that on the right

[fallen meteor]

uhhh patrick redfield?

i think

something like that

[somber flare]

looks like he could be a pre ts movie villain

[fallen meteor]

i think hes a game guy

[shadow python]

Stussy hybrid form

[thick mango]

Who even is that guy on the right? Mihawk?

[somber flare]

oh wait its an actual character?

[tranquil blade]

I remember him now

[somber flare]

I thought it was a random oc

[tranquil blade]

He's like a rival to Whitebeard in the game or smth

[dark nymph]

by oda? 🥀

[tranquil blade]

He's cracked

[shadow python]

Rival to a dead guy?

[fallen meteor]

his vampire form

atrocius fit ngl

[somber flare]

so who wins Patrick or Bullet

[thick mango]

Vampires can drain strength sometimes so ima go Patrick

[fallen meteor]

Bullet probably

isnt Bullet crazy strong

[tranquil blade]

I think base Bullet could be higher than base Patrick but overall Patrick has it

Bullet is like Rayleigh's equal

or smth

[fallen meteor]

i think Patrick would be done

[glad haven]

One piece delayed ep 1156 April 5 2026 🥲😔😔

[tranquil blade]

Apparently prime Patrick rivaled Roger and Whitebeard

[thick mango]

Harald was a good character

[fallen meteor]

wholesome piece 🙂

[vital heart]

lol I almost butchered this scene

[fallen meteor]

they hug it out at the end

[vital heart]

Feeso saved it from the ashes

I was gonna make the line "Me too. I love you!"

But feeso just changed it to "I love you too!"

[glad haven]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-delay-battle-gif-5873188730504159864

[fallen meteor]

brother why would you send this gif here

the peak of #other-series

[cosmic hamlet]

The design matches with the silhouette

[glad haven]

Delayed April 5 2026 yes anime one piece. 😔😔

[fallen meteor]

who watches the anime

[dark nymph]

had to kill his own dad

[fallen meteor]

Loki has the human human model Dalton

[glad haven]

Fake

[thick mango]

Now that egghead is done I'm gonna finally watch it

[fallen meteor]

its pretty good

[thick mango]

Yeah I'm optimistic I just didn't wanna go weekly again on it

[restive wedge]

Dat Kuma flashback had me crying the entire time

[blazing depot]

This guy got technically canonized by Stussy’s fruit

Since the fruit is the same model

[dark nymph]

some episodes have really rough pacing but overall its decent

[blazing depot]

I mean parent class

[cloud adder]

mythical zoan for dalton when

[glad haven]

nidhogg devil fruit loki

[cosmic hamlet]

This makes sense

[fallen meteor]

screenshotting this to put it on my How to win arguments book

[shadow python]

Would big mom die if you force fed her a random devil fruit?

[cosmic hamlet]

Make sure to include my name

[fallen meteor]

in theory yes but oda conveniently never explored this scenario

[stone terrace]

Daltons a swell guy

Wont be anyones favorite

But being the first zoan has to count for something dammit

And if you say luffy ill punch you

[tranquil blade]

Well

[ocean totem]

Marines?

[shadow python]

Didn't we see Choppers zoan before Dalton?

[dapper tree]

Dalton was the strongest on drum island arc

[cloud adder]

dalton was the first zoan transformation in canon

but first zoan user in general, it would be luffy or chopper

[shadow python]

Dalton was weaker than Wapol. I think Dalton is the only person Wapol actually beat

[dapper tree]

Dalton would kick wapol's ass

low diff

[shadow python]

They fought and Dalton lost

[dapper tree]

actually

0 diff

Dalton beheaded Wapol

in an instant

[stone terrace]

How cool would it be if dalton was proper strong with haki

[dapper tree]

Like it was no contest

[tranquil blade]

Dalton would get instafolded by Crocodile so I feel like he couldnt be the strongest in the arc

[shadow python]

That's why Dalton shoo'd Chopper away saying if he couldn't even beat him he had no chance against Wapol

[stone terrace]

Awakened bull

[dapper tree]

I said drum island, not the alabasta saga

smh my head

[tranquil blade]

Yeah and Luffy would win

[dapper tree]

dalton wins

[tranquil blade]

If it really came down to it

[shadow python]

Kureha>Luffy>Zoro>Lapins>Sanji>wapol>Dalton> Chopper>Chessmarimo>Vivi>Usopp>Nami

[tranquil blade]

Wait true

[dapper tree]

🤮

[tranquil blade]

Lapins would fold Dalton

[buoyant comet]

Wasn't Dalton shot point blank

[shadow python]

The 2nd time yeah

[ocean totem]

Dalton decapitated Wapol in one swing

[dapper tree]

wapol vs dalton result

[ocean totem]

He'd have killed Luffy too

[buoyant comet]

Nah the first time

[shadow python]

The first time post rescuing Chopper wapol nearly killed Dalton punishing him for his insolence

[buoyant comet]

Wapol was like I'm disappointed with you and then ordered his men to shoot him

[shadow python]

The present day was the 2nd Dalton v Wapol. They fought years ago back when Hiriluk died

[dapper tree]

well, present day is what matters

[shadow python]

Present day also resulted in Dalton knocked out buried in the snow

[dapper tree]

hostages

[shadow python]

It just seems off to consider Dalton stronger when they fought twice Dalton lost both times and Dalton himself told Chopper Wapol was stronger

[dapper tree]

there were clearly factors of dalton letting himself get shot with spears in the 2nd fight to protect people

[wraith mantle]

any ragnir merch out yet?

[vital heart]

@dapper tree Question.

[dapper tree]

Huh

[vital heart]

Do you think Ivankov will unlock conquerors haki ?

[fallen meteor]

now this is a good topic
dalton

[unique lagoon]

anime people gets it easy

[dapper tree]

I don't care if Iva does

[fallen meteor]

they took his tail off

[tranquil blade]

They didnt even try to hide it

[unique lagoon]

even got this

[tranquil blade]

The silhoutte could still be Shiki tho idk

[tranquil blade]

Oh my god

[fallen meteor]

its shiki

[unique lagoon]

its def shiki

[dapper tree]

Iva having coc doesn't matter

[scenic dirge]

Anime don’t need to hide anything coz most Japanese one piece fans read the manga. It’s only in the chud west where anime onlies are so prominent

[unique lagoon]

surely anime only figured it out already

[tranquil blade]

the chud west

[unique lagoon]

odens flashback was not that long gaban should be fresh

[tranquil blade]

Most of the west are reading the spoilers but not the actual chapter

[unique lagoon]

by not that long it was last arc

[fallen meteor]

kinda want to watch an anime onlie reaction now to see if they say something fun on the gaban scene

i'm sure someone out there thinks its rayleigh

[unique lagoon]

how much do anime only theorize anyway

[wraith mantle]

youtube full of anime only reactors

[fallen meteor]

they do
did you miss the blackbeard is roger guy

[unique lagoon]

no idea so prob yes

[fallen meteor]

watched until the pie scene and went to twitter to theorise this guy the anime gave too much attention is roger 100%

[unique lagoon]

the pie scene? the teach and luffy pie eating?

[fallen meteor]

ye

[unique lagoon]

which guy is roger there?

[fallen meteor]

BB

[unique lagoon]

oh

[fallen meteor]

i like that the replies there were all 'yeah we dont know they never show him again'

[distant vine]

[unique lagoon]

ngl i dont remember any theories
even here that roger is still alive

[vital heart]

The only theory of that nature that seem remotely plausible are the Rocks is still alive and Harald is still alive

[dapper tree]

no

[vital heart]

and both of them hinge of them being the man marked by flames

I think both could be plausible

But both cannot be true

[shadow python]

Rocks being Imu was a theory I recall

[unique lagoon]

i remember seeing people talk about imu taking rogers dead body and its in the freezer atm

[wraith mantle]

bro

if they come back to live... idk its kinda shit

[vital heart]

Not both

Only one or the other

[wraith mantle]

although bb talking with his dad would be interesting

[vital heart]

Only rocks or harald be alive and the only way theyd be alive is if theyre the man marked by flames

[wraith mantle]

ig harald works as he was technically a WG/navy member

[unique lagoon]

my best bet is its still gaban

or its a group of people cuz surely theres a crew in that ship

[vital heart]

There was a fake spoiler circulating #spoilers during the 1170 spoilers phase - it said that Harald was the man marked by flames. It was pretty convincing if you read it fully

[dapper tree]

no

[unique lagoon]

man i really want the oro jackson to be that ship

ship of the PK still sailing

imagine

[wraith mantle]

damn this guy cooked

[fallen meteor]

its not that bad actually

but i'm really over people that died being alive

[unique lagoon]

saul being alive man

pound is whatever but saul was a big deal with robin

good and bad i guess

[wraith mantle]

it gave us a beautiful reunion moment

so i am not too mad about it

and it was fairly "foreshadowed"

[unique lagoon]

just look at it as oda giving robin a small break from a life of depression

[wraith mantle]

her break from a life of depression began as soon as she joined the strawhats tho

but i see what you meant

[unique lagoon]

true so its not small break

[tranquil blade]

https://tenor.com/view/because-i-gave-you-too-many-chances-to-understand-dax-danny-anene-reaction-laugh-gif-1855662235083933452

[fallen meteor]

saul was ok

the explanation makes sense

[distant vine]

It hurts the story...

I think

[unkempt sable]

Now that the flashback is over who helped the WG more vegapunk or harald

[distant vine]

Ok here's my opinion

[unique lagoon]

coincidence?!

[clever idol]

Lol

[deep chasm]

well its not made clear how much Harald did for WG, Id say the mother flame alone makes a lot more use WG got out of vegapunk compared to harald

[distant vine]

Yeah my opinion still stands

[deep chasm]

harald to my understanding just beat up random unnamed pirates but never got to the part where he made a giant army

[unkempt sable]

[vital heart]

@sage temple Agreed?

[dapper tree]

STOP

[vital heart]

??????????????????

[ocean totem]

Why are you like this

[fallen meteor]

oh god

[vital heart]

😭

[distant vine]

What was Oars called? The Continent Eater?

[ocean totem]

Puller

[unkempt sable]

Joe still saying dumb stuff

[distant vine]

Ah puller

I guess if you take that literally...

Anyways we talk about prime too much

You guys cant even cook Prime ribs

[fallen meteor]

lets talk about netflix

[unique lagoon]

is this from moria or before he found the body

[ocean totem]

That's from Moria

It's his zombie number

[cloud adder]

theres something in the SBS about the Moria tagging for the zombies

[fallen meteor]

SZ-900?

[ocean totem]

Special Zombie 900

[unique lagoon]

ye that makes more sense

i dont remember if theres other detail in his body

[hazy echo]

https://x.com/Liolola_A/status/2005313952377663801

Liolola (@Liolola_A)

Straw Hat merch hierarchy from what it seems like

X · Dec 28, 2025, 4:24 PM

[unique lagoon]

but he was def looking for something
in the land of ice wherever that is

[vital heart]

Ragnir will be on Law tier, minimum imo

It's a chipmunk/squirrel for crying out loud !

[dapper tree]

stop

[wraith mantle]

i am buying ragnir's keychain

when it comes out

[fallen meteor]

i need to see more of ragnir

rn he looks a bit dumb

[wraith mantle]

hes a bit dumb, very strong, extremely adorable

[unique lagoon]

looks like an angry squirrel

[fallen meteor]

his widows peak fur thing doesnt look too cool

[wraith mantle]

holy trinity of merch

[fallen meteor]

makes me think of #other-series

[wraith mantle]

wdym

[tranquil blade]

This is actually good I think you should ping him again with another twitter screenshot

[dapper tree]

NO

[shadow python]

The squirrel has the secrets of the world

It is the single most important being in elbaf

[tranquil blade]

Why

What's wrong

[dapper tree]

meek is pain

[tranquil blade]

Yeah but he's pinging Socrates so I might let it slide

[distant vine]

I love this tier list lmao

[unique lagoon]

kinda wish there was more into how loki convinced ragnir

i guess loki haki was that powerful?

[shadow python]

We know Loki is good with animals

[unique lagoon]

yes but aint that just part of the CoC thing

[shadow python]

He's just a friendly sweet guy

[tranquil blade]

Well that could be why the hammer accepted him

He's a powerful conquerors haki user

[unique lagoon]

see im not sure if ragnir can sense more with loki other than that strong clash

[tranquil blade]

I mean it's the solution to everything else now

[fallen meteor]

ragnir got a concussion

so he's not 100% there

[ocean totem]

So was Harald

Loki probably got it because Ragnir could sense how wild he was

[shadow python]

Yes but Harald doesn't have animal friends

[unique lagoon]

so the difference is
herald will force ragnir to work with him
while ragnir is willing to work with loki?

[shadow python]

Or really friends in general

[ocean totem]

It probably depends on eating the fruit tbh

It seemed to immediately fall in love with Loki when he transformed

[tranquil blade]

Yeah but my assumption is Harald stopped trying to get it after Ida talked sense into him, because reasonably speaking if Harald is told eating that fruit could be potentially world ending, I dont really think he'd want to eat it in the first place

Now younger Harald might've tried to

[unique lagoon]

i mean before that cuz ragnir allowed him to eat it

[fallen meteor]

i mean if we are going to be serious here i think it was just a strenght thing

[tranquil blade]

Before he met Ida, and just failed to get around Ragnir

[fallen meteor]

like he clashed with Loki and was like 'ok this dude can do it' and thats it

[ocean totem]

Maybe, but he does note that it's with his new strength he'd be able to get it, which means he also thought he wasn't strong enough

[ocean totem]

Didn't Loki knock him out?

[unique lagoon]

nah ragnir was next to the open box

he was like go ahead eat it

[ocean totem]

Oh you right, I missed that

[tranquil blade]

For like a moment he did but Ragnir seemed to be okay largely

[ocean totem]

Maybe it really is just he could sense how Loki was more of a wild person

[tranquil blade]

Though he goes from being pissed off about the bump on his head to letting Loki have the fruit

[shadow python]

Loki lost his only weapon squirrel got an ouchie

[unique lagoon]

i cant tell but i guess ragnir opened the box on its own

[distant vine]

Bro is doing anything instead of going to bed

[tranquil blade]

I mean I guess there are zoans we're talking about so maybe it somehow knew Loki had the right will to match the fruit

[unique lagoon]

this is nodding ye?

[dapper tree]

yes

[unique lagoon]

ok

[ocean totem]

The fruit is so fucking small it's hilarious

[tranquil blade]

How would it know that? I dont know really, maybe since the squirrel is also a df power it understands this stuff

[ocean totem]

You can't even see it

[tranquil blade]

It looks vaguely pointy

[unique lagoon]

havent seen a fan art of the DF yet
so this will do for now

[tranquil blade]

I think it's supposed to be a normal sized fruit but Loki is so big it just looks an amoeba or something

[unique lagoon]

im telling you its the first dried out fruit

[ocean totem]

Yeh, it's just a funny perspective shot

[grand flower]

Blind ass

[tranquil blade]

[fallen meteor]

so all the giants are easily assassinated right

you just need two dfs

put it in a salad idk thats it

[tranquil blade]

I mean this is true for BM too but yeah, but no one would use a strategy like that unfortunately...

and if it's a zoan the salad might actually come to life

[unique lagoon]

so when you chop a df into pieces only the first bite matters

vegapunk was juicing DFs

[distant vine]

Robin's placement I'm not sure of

[dapper tree]

what is that

[tranquil blade]

This is probably true

[dapper tree]

I am mad

[distant vine]

When I first watched Alabasta I felt like Robin's fruit was broken enough to take down any SH other than Luffy

[tranquil blade]

Idk how Robin loses to any of them but Luffy until like Water 7

[distant vine]

I always just assumed that

[tranquil blade]

Like she cant really beat Luffy because she cant break his bones

[unique lagoon]

true she can just grab all of em and break their necks

[distant vine]

Powerscaling SH's across the series

[tranquil blade]

but the rest she could technically just snap their spines

[dapper tree]

I cry

[unique lagoon]

maybe zoros neck is more durable
cuz he trains that

mouth sword stuff

[spice cairn]

Home from work

Phew, let's see what amazing discussion I can come across tonight

I learned canonically the best conversation happens at very late hours

[spice cairn]

I mean, she can definitely theorically sort of still do

But I feel like Sanji and Zoro and of course Luffy are above her tricks atp.

[tranquil blade]

Well Sanji wouldnt win anyways but his bones kinda cant break now

[spice cairn]

Thats what I mean yeah

Sanji cannot break

[unique lagoon]

why is there even a debate about ragnir being a hammer with a DF

[spice cairn]

So its sort of useless

[tranquil blade]

Idk how Zoro wins he just like flexes really hard or something

[spice cairn]

He just cuts himself a bit to not allow her to get her hands on him

[unique lagoon]

if it was a squirrel who ate a hammer DF that thing would be so freaking old

[distant vine]

Here is your Afro Luffy placement @spice cairn

[spice cairn]

He wouldnt be above using something like that

[spice cairn]

This is actually very strong placement

[cloud adder]

why is baby luffy so low

[spice cairn]

Baby Luffy loses to everyone that arent just kid selves lmao

[distant vine]

I probably have to drop Franky a tier

[cloud adder]

oh, its powerscaling?? 😭

[spice cairn]

He can't really grasp his fruit properly

[distant vine]

By Enies Lobby it was clear Luffy was way stronger

[spice cairn]

Definitely

[distant vine]

Yes

[spice cairn]

If only Bonney was a SH

[distant vine]

W7 Usopp vs Arlong Park Zoro is funny to imagine

[spice cairn]

Would she be the strongest child

I mean I think he would win

[distant vine]

Probably yeah

Only Jinbe has a chance

[dense haven]

what is this rank about

[distant vine]

Its powerscaling

[dense haven]

ofc it is

[cloud adder]

why is beginning of the series nami in D tier with literal children...

[spice cairn]

Because she sucked

[stone terrace]

https://fixupx.com/kirigayashimo/status/2005374673006313513?s=46

thienlao21 (@KirigayaShimo)

Zoro ended up several times weaker than this squirrel😂 #ONEPIECE1170

Quoting ATexas16 (@Texas16A)
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Zoro will be stronger than Shanks by the end of 2025 🤷🏽‍♂️

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FixupX · Dec 28, 2025, 8:25 PM

[distant vine]

She has a bo staff

[spice cairn]

She has no Baton either.

[distant vine]

And I cant imagine Bo Staff Nami defeating Child Zoro who uses Santoryu

[spice cairn]

Its just her being a cheater

[dense haven]

where are the other sh child

[distant vine]

and already beats adults

[cloud adder]

why is baby sanji the exception?

[distant vine]

Surprisingly the list doesnt have them

[distant vine]

Cause he was a bum lmao

He was powerless

[spice cairn]

You can add them in Indigex

[distant vine]

Thats a lot of work

I mean there's Sun Pirates Jinbe

Idk where to put him tho

[distant vine]

I'll just let you know.

Chopper - I guess you can put him at the bottom? He's just an animal.
Robin - Her child powers arent really developed. I guess Child Chopper could maul her to death. Maybe Robin is at the bottom.
Franky - So like...his flashback self? He's probably beating everyone except Kid Zoro.
Brook - dawg idk
Jinbe - Strongest duh

[spice cairn]

B?

[vital heart]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y7eY_5IwAI

[spice cairn]

Maybe im being generous

But Jinbei feels pretty strong off the gate

[tranquil blade]

Didnt Arlong say him and Jinbe used to be comparable to each other or something

[formal wagon]

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

(sideways)

[distant vine]

Doesnt seem like it

[tranquil blade]

Maybe Arlong was just lying about that

[formal wagon]

neuralink how do i make my text sideways in discord on discord dot com

[dapper tree]

chopper monster point aint beating luffy, sanji, and zoro at that point. chopper down 2, the other two groups up one each

[tranquil blade]

He could've been a liar I suppose

[distant vine]

Arlong was certainly at Jinbe's mercy after Fisher Tiger's death

[clever idol]

In prestige amongst the fisbman pirates yea. But arlong has always been much weaker

[formal wagon]

arlong

[clever idol]

Jinbe beat yhe hell out of him very easily

[spice cairn]

Chudlong

[tranquil blade]

Then like yeah he could be in B

[formal wagon]

arlong vs jinbei who wins

[distant vine]

Idk man Monster Chopper is kinda crazy, but I'll think about it

[formal wagon]

hot take: jinbei even though he does not have a saw nose

[spice cairn]

Yeah thats my anwser

B+ if im being very generous but its a very reasonable placement

[dapper tree]

I mean, he is but not beating the other 3 and thair upgrades

[tranquil blade]

That's a decent enough spot to be way stronger than Arlong but not like too crazy

[formal wagon]

If luffy didn't beat him in arlong city or whatever would arlong be a yonko by now?

krieg would ofc, but what about arlong

[spice cairn]

Arlong would be Yonko++

[tranquil blade]

I dont remember what monster form Chopper did besides beat Kumadori and press Franky a little

Actually I just forgot what he did I know he rampaged

[dapper tree]

weakened franky at that

[formal wagon]

if doflamingo had 2 more devil fruits, for a total of 4, could he beat whole cake island luffy (law isn't helping)

[dapper tree]

kumadori was like not even half as strong as jabra and kaku

[tranquil blade]

Enies Lobby, whatever happened there (In Newark accent)

[tranquil blade]

Chopper did kind of wreck him though

[distant vine]

I'm gonna have to start expanding the upper tiers but this is everything Pre TS

[formal wagon]

but franky = ennies lobby lucci

[tranquil blade]

base Lucci?

[formal wagon]

ennies lobby franky = ennies lobby franky

[distant vine]

Brook probably needs to go up

[dapper tree]

sure but kumadori also decided to stop moving

[distant vine]

But I have him a tier down cause I have Nitoryu Zoro a tier down lol

[formal wagon]

if stephen colbert was in one piece, which devil fruit would he not hafve

[tranquil blade]

I mean he wouldve lost anyways

Unless he ran away

[formal wagon]

if conan o brian was in one piece, would he have shanks' special hair tone?

[tranquil blade]

Maybe

[dapper tree]

sure but like jabra and kaku would be able to deal with monster choppere withput much issue

[formal wagon]

if jay leno was in one piece would he have the buccaneer chin?

[fallen meteor]

do you have a source on this

[tranquil blade]

Idk

[dapper tree]

chopper does not have the speed

[sage temple]

Lmao, Loki was called a world destroyer himself, this doesn't mean he'll actually do it. Oars is on fraudwatch until I see a feat from him and not just him being carried by his weight just to be shorter than Sanjuan Wolf

[dapper tree]

like at all

[sage temple]

[formal wagon]

if jimmy fallon was in one piece would he be in the D clan because he loves smiling and laughing so much

[tranquil blade]

I'd have to reread the series which I'm not doing

Jabra isnt even that fast

[formal wagon]

if jimmy kimmel was in one piece uh i don't have a joke for jimmy kimmel

[tranquil blade]

"Big Mom (Prime)"

[formal wagon]

if kaido was in one piece would he have a talk show

[tranquil blade]

Was this made by Arsal?

[formal wagon]

no

[fallen meteor]

Kaido while hacked by discord user Shuron

[tranquil blade]

@grand flower reference

[fallen meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/telepathy-telepathic-psychic-mind-reader-meld-gif-13614415

[dapper tree]

neither does jimmy kimmel

[formal wagon]

yeah

jimmy kimmel just sits there with his jimmy kimmel face

like kaido

[odd rune]

ive long since been a hater of agenda piece but i will admit just thinking it over in my head it is rather funny

that

[fallen meteor]

going to confess something
i kinda dont remember who is who when you say conan jimmy kimmel jay leno etc

i need to stop and think

[odd rune]

mihawk is both the weakest rattiest fakest fraud in one piece and also the goat and the strongest and hakiman shanks or whatever

[formal wagon]

yeah

[tranquil blade]

conan is the funny one with red hair

[fallen meteor]

conan is the one i think i remember

[tranquil blade]

He's in the death sitting game

[fallen meteor]

jay leno is the one with the chin

[formal wagon]

death sitting 🥹

[fallen meteor]

🙁

[tranquil blade]

jay leno is the one that collects cars or smth i dont remember

[fallen meteor]

now theres like jimmy kimmel and jimmy fallon?

[tranquil blade]

jimmy kimmel is the not funny one

and jimmy fallon is the ice cream one

[fallen meteor]

i mean i dont watch any of them so i dont really know what this means

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-kimmel-dancing-dance-epic-epic-face-gif-16768360660277757098

this one??

[formal wagon]

jay leno also BETRAYED conan

[tranquil blade]

Yeah

that one

[fallen meteor]

i thought it was the one that just laughed a lot

whats the name of that one

[tranquil blade]

I think he did the 67 joke

[formal wagon]

thats jimmy fallon

hes the joker guy

he was also on snl

[fallen meteor]

ohhh thats jimmy fallon

whos the one that stopped

[formal wagon]

conan stopped

[tranquil blade]

jimmy kimmel

[fallen meteor]

no

[tranquil blade]

conan also stopped

well did he

[fallen meteor]

the one with the white hair/beard

[sage temple]

😔

[tranquil blade]

jimmy kimmel got kicked off the program for a little bit

[formal wagon]

conan is podcast guy

[formal wagon]

oh letterman