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mighty roost
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nah the flashback way too long

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i deadass forgot

prisma yacht
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fake phan

fluid cedar
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Gunko cant get past sommers

mighty roost
prisma yacht
glacial bear
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Saturn became homeless

lofty fern
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If we're not counting dirty tricks then many top tiers are "bums"

mighty roost
glacial bear
shadow python
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Gunko beat Loki almost senseless and he's a CoC user

mighty roost
fluid cedar
shadow python
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He was on life support because of Gunko

mighty roost
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well he was chained up

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what was he supposed to do

lofty fern
cold steppe
glacial bear
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After Big Mom. Boa Hancock is the strongest woman imo

glacial bear
mighty roost
shadow python
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I think Big Mom and Hancock are the only girls with CoC

glacial bear
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Idk about imprisoned tho. But he is the Gorosei’s tailor

lofty fern
muted hedge
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Kizaru shouting at Sakazuki was done masterfully

glacial bear
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Her devil fruit power is that OP

mighty roost
frozen aspen
# lofty fern If we're not counting dirty tricks then many top tiers are "bums"

its not just about dirty tricks. Sure kaido employed dirty tricks but he can still fight someone with Acoc. He can take hits. With HK however the moment someone with their weakness shows up(Coc users) they fold immediately. You can make the argument that well obviously people who can use Acoc are strong. But aside from just that it shows that the HK are just weak without Imu's protection. And that's deliberate on Oda's part. They are full of themselves and lack the battle experience pirates like Roger and Rocks had.

lofty fern
shadow python
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Oden has a wife and child he wouldn't fall prey to the vixens spells

stone terrace
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Nyorno nyarmani must be a hugo boss reference as well lol

glacial bear
# lofty fern Nah Gunko is better

I love Gunko but I feel like Boa has an advantage with the Mero Mero No Mi. My GOAT can’t regenerate if she’s turned into stone 😭

mighty roost
glacial bear
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And Boa has Conqueror’s Haki too

shadow python
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If the only time you lose is against people with ACoC I think you're fine

golden valley
frozen aspen
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Because why train yourself to dodge and tank and parry attacks from your opponents when they can't hurt you?

stone terrace
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The weakest acoc user is zoro

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Like let that sink in for a moment

distant vine
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Boa got as much COC as Kid rn (Statement Haki)

golden valley
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Like, its not “battle experience” they lack

glacial bear
lofty fern
golden valley
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Battle experience isn’t letting you beat top tiers alone

distant vine
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No way Boa is attracting Gunko

shadow knoll
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Bruh, it looked so cool in the manga

distant vine
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Only way to turn her to stone is hand to hand

shadow python
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I think Boas CoC is better than Kidds based in absolutely nothing

mighty roost
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very niche

frozen aspen
glacial bear
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Luffy doesn’t have romantic feelings towards anyone

shadow python
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Luffy was beaten by Namis happiness punch

glacial bear
prisma yacht
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Guys

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It's time

craggy vapor
prisma yacht
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last episode of the season

golden valley
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And Maffey got snuck

cold steppe
distant vine
golden valley
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They weren’t even paying attention

golden valley
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Just like how Rayleigh hit Sommers offguard

glacial bear
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Actually

distant vine
wispy anchor
glacial bear
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Vivi is the strongest woman in the world after big mom

wispy anchor
shadow python
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Imu controlled Gunko likes women so Boa should be able to stone her

mighty roost
glacial bear
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Vivi went toe to toe with a Yonko & Nika (Luffy)

craggy vapor
haughty ridge
shadow python
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And Gunko without Imu would probably just straight up lose

glacial bear
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So VIVI UPSCALE LETSBUGGINGGO

frozen aspen
# golden valley Top tiers with CoC? Sure

Like I said Coc users are obviously strong but the thing is that the HK lack combat experience, assuming that the Straw Hats found a way to damage them without Acoc they would fold immediately

golden valley
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I will never understand why we are using Top tiers as the metric for HK’s being “weak” or lacking “battle experience”

shadow python
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Choppers working on that

mighty roost
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also since that garling bum is a elder now does that mean he gets some bullshit zoan power too?

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or like transformation

stone terrace
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Current aco users:
Yamato
Shanks
Luffy
Gaban
Rayleigh
Garp

elder kraken
shadow python
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But I think Loki showed that blowing them away completely should work. So Nami is possibly able to kill Summers

golden valley
stone terrace
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Jk akainu prob has it

distant vine
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Just imagined Law coming back with ACOC

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That would be hilarious

shadow python
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Yamato has Acoc? He couldn't even break his own handcuffs

stone terrace
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Im only counting confrimed

stone terrace
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But either way its all stacked

mighty roost
stone terrace
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Should all holy knights be able to fight those guys

muted hedge
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i love the red cape

stone terrace
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Because then how would the wg possibly lose lol

mighty roost
ornate tartan
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red=aura

frozen aspen
muted hedge
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they also fixed Garlings beard

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which is great

stone terrace
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Its bad enough that sommers can literally beat every straw hat not in the top 2

frozen aspen
pulsar path
distant vine
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It works in that sense but it can have devestating impacts on fights

frozen aspen
distant vine
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If its an on off switch with ACOC

shadow python
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Robin came as close as she probably could against Summers

golden valley
shadow python
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Gunko needed regen vs Usopp

golden valley
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Gunko was untouched by every strawhat when she wanted.

stone terrace
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She aura farmed and ate the attack

glacial bear
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What if Sanji feeds Imu the cake he made for Big Mom. Would Imu be knocked out because that Cake 🎂 is out of this world?

golden valley
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She didn’t need regeneration

mighty roost
craggy vapor
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that stupid sword killed Rocks

distant vine
frozen aspen
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Sommers and gunko both used regen

golden valley
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Holy

mighty roost
stone terrace
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Regen users have weak bodies dont look at the damage they take as meaningful

shadow python
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Garling is the man who killed the strongest man in the world

ornate tartan
stone terrace
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When has usopp blown someone up, even he was shocked

mighty roost
golden valley
distant vine
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Gunko let Usopp blow her up guys

frozen aspen
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Can't believe ppl used to hype Garling up bc he is shanks sperm donor

golden valley
frozen aspen
mighty roost
shadow python
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Rather than saying Gunko let Usopp blow her I'd rather take this as Usopp getting a good feat

golden valley
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Anyway, Gunko outspeeds Gaban, a literal top tiers ACoC user

spice cairn
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I think Garling is cool

golden valley
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They are not hopeless against ACoC

mighty roost
spice cairn
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Hopefully he commits more bad things so we can scale him higher than Saturn

golden valley
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Sommers clashed with Gaban’s ACoC.

frozen aspen
golden valley
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They are not hopeless

rose rune
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I pray usopp blows up a normal pirate once

spice cairn
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Id say he surpassed him though in terms or cartoon evil

thin quest
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Garling has ulterior motives outside of Imu and the WG, he is fascinating

spice cairn
shadow python
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Could Robin beat Summers with dos manos clutch?

spice cairn
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Like let's say they were in an MMA styled fight

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Fist only

craggy vapor
shadow python
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Usopps not allowed to do it unless it won't work

nova thicket
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I haven't kept up with op for months how is it going

spice cairn
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Chair at the final 5 minutes of the fight

rose rune
distant vine
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Robin could end a lot of fights but she's only allowed to do that vs nameless people or people who can regen from it

shadow python
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Same reason Zoro diced Buggy but never did it to anyone else

latent hamlet
spice cairn
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Robin shouldve learned the Dragon Fist.

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But nope

proud pivot
spice cairn
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Shes too classy for Sabo to be her true mentor

latent hamlet
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They have regen
So u can maim and chop em up as much as u like

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They'll just get better

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Can't do serious wounds to non-regens

cold steppe
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Robin should've learned just armament and it's over

distant vine
nova thicket
spice cairn
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Robin took Koala more seriously compared to Sabo

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Now look what's happening

proud pivot
spice cairn
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The priorities are fucked up

stone terrace
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Robin hates men?

shadow python
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Even without haki what are BB Shanks or Buggy going to do when Robin gets ahold of their family jewels?

spice cairn
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Legends say Jinbei is still trying to figure out how to get out of the situation

mighty roost
nova thicket
craggy vapor
latent hamlet
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haki on the balls

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ez

proud pivot
distant vine
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And Wifi Haki

shadow python
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The Era of iron bodies is over Whitebeard Big Mom and Kaido have fallen. Now the only one who can defend against Robin is Luffy

mighty roost
proud pivot
mighty roost
distant vine
shadow python
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Jinbabe is a fraud

distant vine
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And Im gonna be merciless to the Jinbe fans. Idc

nova thicket
stone terrace
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Jimbei after imunko is defeated:
"I've got it!"

mighty roost
distant vine
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Theyve been quiet about the Jinbe beat Lucci memes now but I still remember

proud pivot
spice cairn
nova thicket
craggy vapor
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Jinbei was nerfed the moment he joined the straw hats

mighty roost
stone terrace
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Jimbei better shape up im about to put franky in the top 4

shadow python
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Jinbabe was never strong. His feats pre time skip was tying with Ace next to the water

distant vine
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About to?

spice cairn
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Im sure its Jinbei's arc

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Just let him think a bit more

mighty roost
proud pivot
shadow python
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Post time skip he was even with pre gear 4 luffy a luffy that was called out for being too weak for the timeskip by 3 separate people including Jinbabe himself

proud pivot
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Wait top 4

spice cairn
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Itll be funny if Jinbei gets the idea in his head and everyone screams at him with "WE KNOW"

proud pivot
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Jinbei isn't even in top 4
Luffy Loki Yamato and Zoro

shadow python
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The biggest guy Jinbabe has beaten so far is Who's Who the guy whose claim to fame was being almost as good as enies Lucci

craggy vapor
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Jinbei should eat the water water no mi if there is any

mighty roost
distant vine
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I need to redo my SH powerscaling per arc tier list

mighty roost
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usopp will cease to exist

spice cairn
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If Loki has an ant zoan

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Then its over

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A ant horse

shadow python
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Did you know there was a time Zoro was stronger than Luffy?

stone terrace
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I mean probably when they were kids

frozen aspen
stone terrace
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I think zoro and luffy were pretty close originally

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But luffy gapped him

shadow python
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Luffy was seriously trying to kill Zoro in Whiskey Peak but failed. This is when they were around even

golden valley
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Before Luffy ate his fruit Zoro prolly was

shadow python
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But in Alabasta and up until enies Zoro pulled ahead getting new techniques and stronger abilities

cold steppe
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Kid luffy would destroy kid zoro with just the metal pipe no df

craggy vapor
spice cairn
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Don't remind me

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That was terrible

shadow python
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Luffy nearly lost to Foxy and almost got beat by Usopp pre gears

distant vine
golden valley
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If Kid Zoro has a sword, he beats Luffy up until Luffy starts training

spice cairn
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Luffy is an asshole

distant vine
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Kid Zoro probably beats Luffy up to like 12

spice cairn
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Probably the biggest ooc moment for Luffy at that point in the story

mighty roost
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what did he do

stone terrace
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We like to pretend it didnt happen

spice cairn
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Oda was probably harassed by editors to make them fight for the generic shounen trope

golden valley
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Gag tbh

spice cairn
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Even though they literally could've waited for Luffy v Usopp during W7

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But yknow

craggy vapor
shadow python
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Luffy has fought with half of his nakama so far. He will probably do it with all of them eventually

spice cairn
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Sabo and Bonney are the only pipe welders right

spice cairn
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I dont remember anyone else that uses pipes as weapons

alpine trench
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pipe welder

shadow python
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We got Luffy vs Zoro, luffy vs Sanji, Luffy vs Usopp, Luffy vs Vivi, Luffy vs Franky, and Luffy vs Jinbabe

mighty roost
golden valley
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Sabo having a pipe as his main weapon is funny

grand flower
golden valley
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Obv its tweaked with

stone terrace
golden valley
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But still

grand flower
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People act like it’s out of character but it wasn’t

shadow python
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Still missing vs Nami, Chopper, Karoo, and Robin but I don't see how Luffy would ever fight Robin

spice cairn
golden valley
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Also, dont forget, Vergo fought with regular bamboo stick

spice cairn
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Hes a good welder of the pipe

grand flower
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Luffy is already hot headed. And he’s drunk, half asleep and barely knows Zoro atp

grand flower
proud pivot
craggy vapor
grand flower
spice cairn
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Yes it was.

shadow python
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Luffy wasn't drunk he exclusively ate. And Zoro didn't say anything, luffy came swinging without giving him a chance to talk

craggy vapor
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well he was drunk. Drunk people do stupid things

golden valley
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Bamboo > pipe

spice cairn
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Pipe cursor

shadow python
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Luffys explanation was he thought Zoro went wild when they didn't give him food he liked

grand flower
distant vine
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Some funny images while I searched for the tier list I made

grand flower
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Luffy does talk to Zoro btw

shadow python
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That is the amount of confidence he had in Zoros moral character

sturdy steeple
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He wasn’t drunk. He was just stupid. That’s his style.

grand flower
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He screams “DID YOU DO THIS”

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Zoro responds “well yeah but-“

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And Luffy attacks before Zoro can finish cause he’s a hot head who was asleep four minutes ago and was partying all night

mighty roost
craggy vapor
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I remember now I wanted to see that fight continue, but Nami neg diffed them both

spice cairn
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People are naming this "Sabos weapon" and selling it and its a literally just a pipe

grand flower
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The entire joke is that when Luffy learns what happened he says “oh why didn’t you say so” cause he’s a hot head

shadow python
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Luffy woke up to pee. Sees the massacred people he asks who did it and they say Zoro. Luffy then comes to kill Zoro opening with I've had it with you. We're going to fight

cold steppe
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I mean made one from the same tierlist

tidal ice
distant vine
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Yeah I love how granular that tier list is

spice cairn
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Its going to keep growing

distant vine
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Surely after two years he surpassed TB Zoro

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😭

mighty roost
spice cairn
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I mean, yeah you are pretty mean

shadow python
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Brook took 50 years and accomplished nothing

golden valley
mighty roost
dense rapids
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We about to find out if Brook was a Celestial Dragon or not

shadow python
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Oh we can powerscale

spice cairn
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Buddy

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What

shadow python
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Shaky says old man Raybae is 100 times stronger than the rookies one of which being Luffy. Nightmare Luffy is made up of 100 shadows

thick mango
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I would hate it if brook were a celestial dragon. I'd consider it a small plot hole that he never said anything this whole time

dense rapids
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I mean technically he did

golden valley
dense rapids
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A certain kingdom could be Mary Geoise

thick mango
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I think the twist is gonna be gunko was taken from his old kingdom

golden valley
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Plus, that would make Shadow Asgard Moria > Rayleigh

thick mango
thick mango
dense rapids
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Strawhat backstories only become important when it’s brought up during a arc

shadow python
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Brook might have had his wife stolen by a dragon who then had Gunko

mighty roost
shadow python
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We know Shanks was allowed to come back into the family so it's possible Bonney would have been accepted to

thick mango
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All the shit that's happened with celestial dragons and he just keeps it quietly to himself cause they never asked?

stone terrace
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Bonney got discarded like trash so probably not

pulsar path
shadow python
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Oh it is also possible a female dragon took Brook for a ride

prisma yacht
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episode was so good

pulsar path
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Next princess

prisma yacht
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they did so good with kuma bonney scene

thick mango
shadow python
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Brook was somewhat famous and a good musician. Perhaps one the Maymare girls wanted him for a night of passion and made him their husband like what Charlos was doing with his wives

pulsar path
shadow python
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I don't know if we can decisively say that

thick mango
potent pier
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So how long do you guys give elbaph?

mighty roost
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but gunko is special in some way

pulsar path
inner agate
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gunko is a cindry parallel

pulsar path
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That I'm pretty sure is when she was taken when she yells father

stone terrace
spice cairn
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Parallelism....

potent pier
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I estimate up til June of next year

distant vine
spice cairn
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Afro Luffy not even being in the convo is a bit criminal

distant vine
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Isnt it crazy how this Brook subplot is sitting in the back of all this

stone terrace
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Nightmare luffy is like at most dressrosa g4

distant vine
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Elbaph is fire

mighty roost
potent pier
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Brooks is going to break Gunko out of it

spice cairn
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Ussop confirmed that the afro multipled your strength

inner agate
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when i watched sabaody there was a slave that said he came from a family of musicians from the west blue from an island from toroa and that was the only time toroa was mentioned but i still think brook is from toroa

frozen aspen
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gunko could be a bastard child kinda like shanks

spice cairn
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Failure on Luffybros looking over that factoid

shadow python
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It should be noted Luffy unironically would have lost to Foxy if not for afro power

potent pier
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Right now I wonder if Gear 5 luffy can peel off the seal off of someboy?

frozen aspen
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expect her mother was royalty or smth

spice cairn
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Hopefully when Ragnir strikes Luffy with Lighnting. His hair forms an afro

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So we can get Afro Gear 5

thick mango
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Foxy is strong losing to him isn't shameful

potent pier
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Because that would be a perfect time to see what Imu officially looks like

mighty roost
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we never thought abt gunko joining the SH huh? or does that sound dumb

distant vine
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It is dumb

spice cairn
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Gunko is dying

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Sorry to break it to you

thick mango
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I've heard people say it but I don't like it personally

spice cairn
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Surviving an exorcism is usually very hard to do.

distant vine
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After Carrot got screwed over? Crew's full

mighty roost
shadow python
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Elbaf wasn't even supposed to happen I don't see anyone from this arc joining the crew

long basin
thick mango
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She's got nothing other than devoted imu and these 4 panels

distant vine
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NO BONNEY, NO YAMATO, NO VIVI, NO LOKI NO GUNKO NOBODY NOBODYS JOINING

wraith mantle
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Gunko should probably die to atone for killing so many slaves in god valley

spice cairn
shadow python
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Vivi doesn't need to join she's already a crewmate

spice cairn
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So again, Indigex where tf is Afro Luffy scaling

potent pier
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She was being controlled to do those stuff

thick mango
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She's gonna need a ton of ramp up for us to care and it's too late for that

long basin
distant vine
spice cairn
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Fucked up

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You gotta fix it.

shadow python
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Bonney is too broken for the strawhats

spice cairn
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Too Broken

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Bro she can't manage her free form for more than 5 minutes

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She also had to get help from co to even blast Mars away

potent pier
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Like gunko's backstory would be perfect to reveal Imu's face

mighty roost
distant vine
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After I screamed like that too?

shadow python
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Bonney herself is fine. Well probably not but let's say she's fine. The issue is she can affect people besides herself

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She can give Sanji a hobi hobi alternative future. And give him Sugars powers

spice cairn
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Well considering Haki is used to get yourself out of situations im sure you can overpower it.

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Which makes Doll a big fraud

shadow python
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She can just age Luffy up normally and make him at his prime

spice cairn
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In fact thats kind of embarrassing coming from her beating up Pacfistas and such prior.

hot cairn
spice cairn
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Like ayyy caramba

distant vine
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She has to believe in all that

shadow python
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She can turn Nami into an Imu eating Sludge monster. Bonneys powers are limitless

distant vine
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And Bonney isnt delusional

spice cairn
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Bonney is a 12 year old

shadow python
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That's a good thing

spice cairn
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Her preception can only go so far.

distant vine
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She cant just believe everything

potent pier
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She coudl probably read the poneglyphs if she can imagine a future that she can

spice cairn
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Theres very clear big limitations to her power.

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So shes definitely not as broken as many people claim she is.

shadow python
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If she wants it she can do it

potent pier
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also we need to see the data in that facility

spice cairn
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Again, all of this sounds appealing but then you consider shes a 12 year old child.

distant vine
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Id say the reverse actually. She's too old to just imagine everything as true. She had the Nika stuff instilled in her but otherwise she sees the world for what it is

shadow python
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The one giant arm doesn't exist. But Bonney was able to do it because she felt like it

spice cairn
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So her vision of the world ignoring her belief system is pretty bleak

distant vine
stone terrace
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Gimme a him ish future

spice cairn
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She probably don't even believe in Santa anymore

spice cairn
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Isn't that fucked up

hot cairn
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it’s been like 3 years

distant vine
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True

spice cairn
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Anyways yes Bonney is getting the hammer over Ussop

distant vine
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But Im not a college student anymore so I can waste more time than before

shadow python
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Bonney is a better support than even Kidd. She will probably be left at elbaf because if left unchecked she can trivialize anything

distant vine
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We actually have a lot of reinforcements

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Luffy, Zoro, Sanji, Franky, Bonney and more

spice cairn
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Shes going to become the queen of Eblaf in Loki's stead

shadow python
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Elbaf might even end because Bonney ages up the kids with a nikaish future

mighty roost
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nobody getting ragnir
its loki's

shadow python
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Chopper can talk to animals

spice cairn
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Loki is getting his brother's love and trust

rose rune
spice cairn
mighty roost
spice cairn
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Bonney is the next best thing

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Loki is a queen for sure though

distant vine
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Also I kinda doubt Bonney can give others a Nika like future

spice cairn
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I mean he acts like one

distant vine
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She can imagine somebody but old

final trench
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She can put loki in his prime

distant vine
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Somebody but Nika is an extra step tho

spice cairn
distant vine
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Hell its not like she can imagine her dad being restored

spice cairn
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Her idea of what freedom is to others is wildly different

distant vine
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She cant do everything lol

shadow python
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She has shown that she can make alternative futures and gave Luffy the bad end future

spice cairn
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At most I can see her make them fat and chungus like

shadow python
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Not with that attitude

spice cairn
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Such as when she was setting sail

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But a pure 1:1 to her own form is unlikely

rose rune
shadow python
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She can do whatever she believes is possible

spice cairn
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Why arent they all fat

narrow haven
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1155 is the last episode?? I mean it's on break now?? Anyone?

spice cairn
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They just sit around all day

shadow python
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And that is absurd. Even if it was just for herself

rose rune
mighty roost
distant vine
mighty roost
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hol up

narrow haven
mighty roost
potent pier
mighty roost
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lmao yeah

golden valley
pulsar path
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We need more of that

spice cairn
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Thats a good point

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Daily morning exercises does lower body mass

sage temple
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Bro gettin straight teeth

rose rune
spice cairn
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Its a brain point

golden valley
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Did bonney release on pw4

spice cairn
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Yes

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She also got her Freedom form as a free update

golden valley
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Nice

tidal ice
rose rune
shadow python
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Does bonneys powers work on inorganic material?

spice cairn
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She rusted a guy's sword

shadow python
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Was that in a movie or on egghead?

craggy vapor
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So with Egghead concluding in the anime, it was pretty short with 71 eps.

spice cairn
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All on Egghead

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She can also fiddle with a gun

stone terrace
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Actual good choreography

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In modern one piece???

spice cairn
#

Bonney is definitely a good fighter

#

She had to be in order to be considered a Supernova

shadow python
#

She isn't but she can simply make a future where she is

spice cairn
#

That future is real.

golden valley
#

It worked on the robot sea beasts

#

Turned it into a kid

spice cairn
#

Also yeah that too.

wraith mantle
#

Oda always be making DFs that mess with the future (toki, Bonney)

But he’s too pussy to make a fruit that changes the past

golden valley
#

Good

spice cairn
#

Yeah because if that existed I would be him

golden valley
#

Even though a fruit that manipulates the past should exist, imma hope it just doesn’t or at least is extremely limited

shadow python
#

The past has already happened the future is ours to decide

mighty roost
alpine trench
spice cairn
#

AND

tidal ice
pseudo gulch
#

Did Egghead end in the latest episode?

#

Or will it end in the next season of the anime?

frozen aspen
#

its over

spice cairn
#

Imu sucks for getting rid of such a handsome guy

rose rune
#

btw @pseudo gulch have you noticed that this is a usopp pfp?

#

!pfp

tropic novaBOT
grand flower
#

Altering the past freely brings up a slew of issues

spice cairn
#

Also I think Oda simply wants to reinforce that the past is already done and the future is what you should be working forwards.

grand flower
#

The best way to do anything with going back in time is:

  1. not readily accessible

  2. Timeline remains stable

grand flower
#

That’s the beauty of stable time loops

cold steppe
#

He did twins, amnesia, mind control. Everything that makes people mad. He will make time travel to the past too Chaden

grand flower
#

In fact it kind of reinforces that if going back in time just causes history to play out the way it did before you went back

spice cairn
#

Yeah, I think a past changing fruit but it abuses the mental state of the user by letting them go back but it ultimately means nothing and it takes you back to the present is pretty brtual.

grand flower
#

Storytelling as a medium would be immensely worse if writers believed in “bad tropes”

spice cairn
#

Like it being a mental thing rather than something tangible

thick mango
#

one piece would be immensely better if oda didnt indulge in those bad tropes

craggy vapor
spice cairn
#

Maybe it allows the user to still find good info

#

That can still be useful for the present

thick mango
#

you list those things off like theyre not the worst parts of one piece

thick mango
#

if those things can be great, one piece is not the example of it

rose rune
grand flower
#

You need draw backs and limitations

mighty roost
spice cairn
#

Honestly the past fruit being a mental thing rather than something tangible like Toki's future fruit was would be good.

#

Let it actually take you to the past but only in your memories.

grand flower
#

Oh like astral projection?

#

You can observe but not interact

spice cairn
#

Mhm

grand flower
#

Yeah that could be cool too

spice cairn
#

You can still learn new things and even somewhat influence situations but in the end it never happens nor actually change anything

#

It just gives you a new prespective every time

grand flower
#

That’s a good support/recon ability

spice cairn
#

Of course this comes with a toll that it ruins your prespective of the past and obviously no mentally unwell person should hold it.

grand flower
#

It’s like an inverse of future sight

grand flower
#

Seeing atrocities and being unable to intervene

spice cairn
#

Itll sort of be a weirder version of what Pudding can do.

#

Except its limited to what you know and experienced

#

You can relive scenarios and maybe dig deeper into it

#

But yeah thats the only way I can see that working within the story

#

Maybe in an awakened sense it can tap into other people but all this does is learn their past and nothing more

#

Knowledge is probably the most dangerous weapon in this story

muted hedge
grand flower
#

But I love this idea

#

It’s like a combo of pudding and violas fruit

long basin
spice cairn
#

Yeah, honestly it should be heavily be restricted and limited but it can work

#

It being a more personal fruit rather than something that can change the story is ideal

#

And obviously if you can learn something with every use of it, this makes you stronger with what you gain in exchange

spice cairn
# muted hedge

I hope they animated every single frame as painful as possible

#

Dude deserves to experience this ad infinitum in hell if there's one

muted hedge
spice cairn
#

Bro threw the coffee to the ground

#

He did not want anyone having it.

muted hedge
#

efficient way to make it look like blood splatter without it being blood

spice cairn
#

That ship took that like a champ

shadow knoll
#

is the new ep good?

muted hedge
glacial bear
warm thunder
grand flower
#

Damn egghead started two years ago in the anime

ember spoke
#

break next week?

mighty roost
ember spoke
#

ur lying

mighty roost
ember spoke
#

brooo stop lying

grand flower
muted hedge
#

that gif tells me nothing

spice cairn
trim lily
#

the skull jumpscare at the end was kinda funny

steel stirrup
muted hedge
#

ah

balmy surge
glacial bear
spice cairn
tranquil blade
grand flower
spice cairn
#

Fitting

#

Hes always been selfish

trim lily
spice cairn
#

So him throwing that coffee down is a final act of petty greed

mighty roost
muted hedge
#

i think it's meant to be petty

spice cairn
#

You think Saturn teleported, grabbed a random skeleton and threw it at them to feign his death within the smoke?

sage temple
grand flower
#

Count the teeth!

muted hedge
#

are they cooking dirt

steel stirrup
trim lily
#

the teeth…

tranquil blade
#

Yes count the teeth

hazy turret
#

Oh Saturns dead in the anime?

muted hedge
#

yep

hazy turret
#

Rip to the last of bonney’s biological family

spice cairn
#

Bonney could've had a cool grandpa

hazy turret
prisma yacht
steel stirrup
fluid cedar
trim lily
#

he’s such a silly fellow

#

taken from this world too soon

stone terrace
#

Sb 💔

rose rune
#

he deserved a better love story

dense rapids
#

Saturn will be redeemed soon BBWise

scenic dirge
#

Damn they went hard af for Saturns death wth

#

Sugoi

stone terrace
#

Its the last episode they had to go out with a bang ig

trim lily
#

egghead really did end in december

tranquil blade
#

True

frozen aspen
tranquil blade
#

What bit will Mailbox do now

spice cairn
#

Eggheadcember

#

Eblaf July

stone terrace
tranquil blade
#

Sb moves on to characters weekly so i dont take it too seriously

spice cairn
#

SB used to stand for Saturn Brother

scenic dirge
#

Loki fans are already championed by satan himself. Sb is the least of our worries

frozen aspen
#

Loki fans were being plagued by a certain someone long before SB arrived JuPeter

spice cairn
#

Socrates leading the satan convention

#

Not surprised

wraith mantle
#

I am proud of sb for sticking with rocks

spice cairn
#

Sticking with Rocks

spice cairn
#

He left him when he died

scenic dirge
#

Sb has not stuck with anything ever

spice cairn
#

SB jumped that ship eons ago

hazy turret
#

Going this hard for a character that’s just gonna stay back and rule elbaf at the end of the arc

spice cairn
#

Big Mom?

tranquil blade
#

I hope he does

spice cairn
#

Yeah we knew that

scenic dirge
#

Kid will rule Elbaf

steel stirrup
shadow python
#

I think Loki dies

spice cairn
#

Kid will rule the Eblaf Kindergarden as their new caretaker

tranquil blade
#

BM in Elbaf is the new Moria in Wano

frozen aspen
#

tbh not sticking with a fave is based

muted hedge
#

is it?

knotty pilot
spice cairn
#

By dying

wraith mantle
frozen aspen
tranquil blade
spice cairn
#

No second thoughts

wraith mantle
#

An agenda blow 😭

steel stirrup
trim lily
#

we had a brief shanks sb phase

spice cairn
#

He comes back with a redemption chapter release

steel stirrup
#

@pine scaffold these niggas talking bout you behind ya back

frozen aspen
#

also noone can come for me if i have no agenda

stone terrace
#

We gotta have brook kid loki hajrudin bm enel usopp imu plotlines in elbaf

frozen aspen
stone terrace
#

600 chapter arc

prisma yacht
#

Usopp's is the most important one

spice cairn
#

What if Ragnir is reincarnated Big Mom?

muted hedge
#

i hope that Hajrudin gets a fruit of his own

trim lily
#

she’s up there in the heaven realm too

hazy turret
tranquil blade
#

Loki wont die for a while at least

muted hedge
#

surprised that they showed Gaban in the anime, already

grand flower
#

He might

tranquil blade
#

He could die like final arc

trim lily
#

loki is absolutely guaranteed not to die here

muted hedge
steel stirrup
trim lily
#

jarul might die though

tranquil blade
#

Yeah except he'd do more than Little Oars Jr

muted hedge
#

Oars Jr. is goated

prisma yacht
#

poor oars

spice cairn
#

Oars Jr is literally just Poppy Bro Jr.

#

And died as pathetically too

spice cairn
#

Oda knows gaming

hazy turret
# grand flower He might

Yeah and I might get a job and stop being a bum ass loser
Doesn’t make it any more likely to happen

tranquil blade
spice cairn
#

Hanafuda's Dino dungeon

#

Where he was chained and betrayed

pine scaffold
steel stirrup
spice cairn
#

I love you SB

#

You are like a superstar

pine scaffold
#

All superstars have their haters so it's natural

#

Not everyone will like me

spice cairn
#

Can my overweight Guinea Pig named ChungusJr get your autograph

trim lily
steel stirrup
grand flower
#

Good point

hazy turret
pine scaffold
#

I might have to put a pause on the Loki glaze, I'm not sure

trim lily
#

yeah true loki did cry this chapter

#

L emotion

pine scaffold
#

NO NOT CUZ OF THAT

tranquil blade
grand flower
ember spoke
#

is there a break next week

trim lily
#

yes

rose rune
hazy turret
pine scaffold
#

This chapter is very strange and it's hard to understand (with the whole regen thing and acoc defense)

grand flower
#

Look at Hitler

tranquil blade
#

?

grand flower
spice cairn
hazy turret
spice cairn
#

Thats it.

trim lily
grand flower
#

Shot him right in the noggin

tranquil blade
#

Point blank

pine scaffold
grand flower
#

His wife too

spice cairn
pine scaffold
#

but didnt Rocks do that and it didnt kill Garling

spice cairn
#

Gaban failed because he wasnt able to keep that pace up

dapper tree
#

When they are such bums

pine scaffold
#

or did he leave him be

trim lily
#

left him

prisma yacht
#

It was the same with dr

dapper tree
#

Rocks just left garling

spice cairn
#

Thats probably why Shanks is so full on with the Haki

dapper tree
#

But garling was clearly having a bad time

pine scaffold
#

Oh so Rocks COULD have killed him right there

#

he just left

spice cairn
#

Specifically to deal with them when the situation arises

grand flower
spice cairn
#

Yeah.

pine scaffold
dapper tree
#

Like the HK are bums for the most part MAYBE like 2 exceptions

pine scaffold
#

like you said, you didnt wanna assume they can do it

spice cairn
#

Essentially you have to be very overwhelming with it enough to where the regen can't really compete.

dense pike
pine scaffold
#

but now we know they can

steel stirrup
pine scaffold
#

for sure

spice cairn
#

So they aren't absolutely immortal

#

Only a select few can even do this feat though

proud pivot
#

@pine scaffold change your fucking name christmas is GONE

dapper tree
#

Even if they are immortal. They can just be beat up forever

pine scaffold
#

I guess what happens is the regen keeps slowing down to the point where it's non existent

#

and you die

spice cairn
#

Which is why I think Shanks is on the road to be the first guy if Luffy and co fail Eblaf.

tranquil blade
trim lily
#

shoujo prince will save them

rose rune
spice cairn
#

We need to bring back chungus comedy

pine scaffold
#

so like

dense pike
spice cairn
#

Remember when we used to laugh at fat animals

pine scaffold
#

Gaban says he never fought a HK with coc before

#

does this mean Harald was using acoc defense similar to Rocks

#

or just using it in general

rose rune
pine scaffold
#

🤔

#

by acoc defense I mean the thing Roger and Garp had to break through using mass

trim lily
dense pike
trim lily
#

put a damper on things

spice cairn
tranquil blade
#

because Shanks and Gaban clearly were cutting him up

dapper tree
pine scaffold
#

and Shanks and Gaban stop attacking him

#

cuz they know its futile

dapper tree
#

I don't think they stop

#

They just let loki take over when he arrives

pine scaffold
stone terrace
#

It was different

#

Rocks was able to totally nullify their attacks

#

Harald still was getting hit

dapper tree
#

Rocks just had strong enough haki

#

To do that

pine scaffold
#

No, Harald didnt use it initially

#

he used it later

#

thats why Gaban calls it out

rose rune
#

I wanted the fish back. looked better than blushing saturn

ember spoke
#

is there a break next week for manga

pine scaffold
#

let me show u guys what I mean

prisma yacht
spice cairn
#

Its Xmas break

hot cairn
#

that episode was pretty good

#

Egghead anime was peak from beginning to end

pine scaffold
#

This happens towards the end of the chapter, this is the last time we see Shanks and Gaban fight Harald

This is also when Harald finally starts using acoc haki

#

He did not use it previously

rose rune
ember spoke
#

well this upcoming week

rose rune
ember spoke
#

so Ch 1172 when we expecting it

prisma yacht
#

No

#

Chapter 1171

#

around 9th jan

rose rune
ember spoke
#

so Ch 1172 will come out the following week?

#

week after next?

rose rune
#

yup

prisma yacht
#

Uhh

ember spoke
#

so not next week but the week after?

prisma yacht
#

Thigh

ember spoke
#

sounds good

rose rune
prisma yacht
#

Isn't the next chapter 1171

rose rune
#

oh yeah, right

rose rune
dapper tree
#

Shanks and Gaben probs keep fighting him in more of a stalemate type fight. So no reason for more updates

pine scaffold
dapper tree
#

Then they back off when Loki shows up as a massive monster thing

tranquil blade
#

Is next chapter gonna be the final one of the flashback or is it this one

#

I think Loki's adventures being shown in this flashback is pretty unlikely now

flint quiver
#

Damn I did not expect the new episode to hit me in the feels like that 😭

dapper tree
#

1 more flashback chapter of Jarul, Loki, Shanks, and Gaben making the plan for Loki to take the fall

pine scaffold
#

then Loki arrives

dapper tree
#

So either way, Shanks and Gaben would back off

brittle basin
#

Is Viz out today?

#

time to check

dapper tree
#

Oh yeah

#

Tell me

pine scaffold
#

no

#

its not

dapper tree
#

Dang

pine scaffold
#

we have to wait a week

dapper tree
#

2 week break

brittle basin
#

son of a BITCH!

trim lily
#

greedy tcb working during the holidays

brittle basin
#

Let's collectively blame Sb for this.

pine scaffold
#

for some reason Harald didnt use acoc haki at all when he fights Loki

tranquil blade
#

no break next week but also no chapter next week

pine scaffold
#

This is so stupid why does Oda keep making characters stop using haki

shadow python
#

It looked like Harald went to the throne room after beating Shanks and Gyaban

brittle basin
#

Why does Oda keep using haki? DFs are right there?

dapper tree
#

Loki's base boosted physical stats just broke everything Harald had, haki or not

brittle basin
#

he used conq

dapper tree
#

That is what the fruit was for

pine scaffold
#

?

brittle basin
#

I still don't get why the fruit was necessary.

shadow python
#

Loki was very impressive this chapter

dapper tree
pine scaffold
#

cuz Shanks and Gaban say Loki was the best shot

shadow python
#

Pre fruit Loki was losing to a squirrel

dapper tree
tranquil blade
brittle basin
#

does just having a fruit, but not being in hybrid or zoan form actually up stats?

dapper tree
#

Loki with the legendary fruit got base boosted physical stats to beat Harold down

shadow python
#

Although that's a fair point couldn't Shanks or Gyaban have also eaten the fruit? I guess Gyaban just figured base Loki > base Shanks

dapper tree
#

And weakened him

pine scaffold
dapper tree
#

Then landed the coc blow

tranquil blade
#

Throwing the word base around a lot

grand flower
dapper tree
#

Also

#

Eating breakfast

#

Brb

brittle basin
#

Share?

brittle basin
#

now we're onto something

pine scaffold
#

and only now with Imu boost he can

frigid gulch
#

Squirrel diff

pine scaffold
#

This is like the worst chapter to not have Viz translations

hazy turret
pine scaffold
#

we need the most accurate ones

wraith mantle
#

This is the only logical conclusion

pine scaffold
#

Harald younger wasnt able to tame it

#

and never bothered since

#

but now with the Imu boost he can for sure tame it no problem

brittle basin
wraith mantle
grand flower
frigid gulch
#

Since zoans have wills just like swords it’s probably the same concept

#

They choose their user

pine scaffold
#

Harald had no reason to eat the fruit

#

before now

tranquil blade
#

I think Harald being the peace-loving giant that he is wouldnt want to eat the fruit that could supposedly destroy the world

#

Now maybe Harald as a teen tried which Loki could be stronger than

pine scaffold
#

Young Loki being stronger than Young Harald makes sense

brittle basin
tranquil blade
#

Harald has probably not tried to get that fruit for a century

trim lily
#

keep in mind there’s only been like 3 generations total assuming the fruit is from the void century

frozen aspen
#

i think young harald definitely might have tried

trim lily
#

he probably did

frigid gulch
pine scaffold
#

Young Harald was a jerk

frigid gulch
pine scaffold
#

destroying places etc

brittle basin
pine scaffold
#

it makes sense he tried to get it but failed

frigid gulch
#

The fruit tells Ragnir that “this is not the one”

tranquil blade
#

past kings were probably nothing special

shadow python
#

Loki wasn't beating that squirrel. He lost his hammer and all squirrel got was an ouchie

#

What probably happened is after realizing it was an animal Loki used talk no jutsu and won it over

dapper tree
shadow python
#

Harald inferred that he would be able to take the fruit now with the power of Imu inferring previously he was too weak

dapper tree
pine scaffold
shadow python
#

Squirrel was stronger than Rocks

pine scaffold
#

doesnt make sense

frigid gulch
#

Squirrel is secretly top 1

dapper tree
#

Ehh, it makes sense.

tranquil blade
blazing depot
# brittle basin

My 8 year old son with leukemia is a bum ass fraud for not fighting hard enough

dapper tree
#

Like, sure the powerscaling is a bit weird but Harold and Rocks aren't as strong as you think they are

shadow python
#

Rocks was the strongest in the world

dapper tree
#

They aren't like top 3 in the verse

wraith mantle
#

I mean

#

Rocks killed an admiral with relative ease

#

I am sure he’s strong af

pine scaffold
#

There are statements which say Rocks is Roger's strongest adversary and some of Roger's adversaries are equals and the same lvl of power as him

#

which means Rocks is stronger

shadow python
#

The squirrel is just stronger

dapper tree
frigid gulch
#

Nothing Loki showed there combat wise is something they shouldn’t be able to do brah

wraith mantle
frigid gulch
#

It’s probably just a chosen one type thing

hot cairn
#

dawg Gaban’s voice is deep af lmao I wasnt expecting that

pine scaffold
#

there is no reality where Rocks and Harald are losing to fucking Kaido

#

are u kidding me

shadow python
#

Harald was even with Rocks. Got a power up and immortality. Blew past Gyaban and Shanks together and then got beat by Loki

blazing depot