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fake phan
Gunko cant get past sommers

Saturn became homeless
If we're not counting dirty tricks then many top tiers are "bums"
he died wdym homeless
Imu took away his Gucci suit
Gunko beat Loki almost senseless and he's a CoC user
bro loki was on life support and he was chained up
chained up and she missed a bunch
He was on life support because of Gunko
Don't they have some guy imprisoned that can only make their suits?
This the pirate world. Details don't matter
After Big Mom. Boa Hancock is the strongest woman imo
Yeah it was like a cat guy
does yamato top boa
I think Big Mom and Hancock are the only girls with CoC
Idk about imprisoned tho. But he is the Gorosei’s tailor
He was on life support because of her. He was fine before that
Kizaru shouting at Sakazuki was done masterfully
Honestly I see Boa beating Yamato
Her devil fruit power is that OP
brother he was chained up no way he could have fought back. Even if he was able to it would have been a 2v1
its not just about dirty tricks. Sure kaido employed dirty tricks but he can still fight someone with Acoc. He can take hits. With HK however the moment someone with their weakness shows up(Coc users) they fold immediately. You can make the argument that well obviously people who can use Acoc are strong. But aside from just that it shows that the HK are just weak without Imu's protection. And that's deliberate on Oda's part. They are full of themselves and lack the battle experience pirates like Roger and Rocks had.
Nah Gunko is better
Oden has a wife and child he wouldn't fall prey to the vixens spells
Nyorno nyarmani must be a hugo boss reference as well lol
I love Gunko but I feel like Boa has an advantage with the Mero Mero No Mi. My GOAT can’t regenerate if she’s turned into stone 😭
true
And Boa has Conqueror’s Haki too
If the only time you lose is against people with ACoC I think you're fine
Redirect that bum's kicks
Bingo
But theyre Gaban, Roger and Rayleigh 😭
Because why train yourself to dodge and tank and parry attacks from your opponents when they can't hurt you?
Boa got as much COC as Kid rn (Statement Haki)
Like, its not “battle experience” they lack
TRUEEEE
Haven't we seen Luffy or others perfectly fine and even fight back while in seastone and fighting multiple people?
Battle experience isn’t letting you beat top tiers alone
No way Boa is attracting Gunko
Bruh, it looked so cool in the manga
Only way to turn her to stone is hand to hand
I think Boas CoC is better than Kidds based in absolutely nothing
once again thats just story writing
very niche
Well yeah but we know from GV that the HK would loose to just about anyone with Coc. Maffey got caught up in a stray attack from Whitebeard in GV
Luffy doesn’t have romantic feelings towards anyone
She wouldn't care about boa
meat
Luffy was beaten by Namis happiness punch
TRUEEE
Luffy has romantic feelings to meat
Top tiers with CoC? Sure
And Maffey got snuck
I don't think so ? We saw her feel something for nika. So it's safe to assume she can fall for it
He was just hyping up his friend
They weren’t even paying attention
Just like how Rayleigh hit Sommers offguard
Actually
Having emotions doesnt mean she'll fall for someone

Vivi is the strongest woman in the world after big mom

Imu controlled Gunko likes women so Boa should be able to stone her
atleast we got the manga going
Vivi went toe to toe with a Yonko & Nika (Luffy)
now I’m hungry. brb gonna cook some meat
If Luffy used ACoC against Goressei, then not just anyone with coc can beat them.
And Gunko without Imu would probably just straight up lose
So VIVI UPSCALE 
Like I said Coc users are obviously strong but the thing is that the HK lack combat experience, assuming that the Straw Hats found a way to damage them without Acoc they would fold immediately
I will never understand why we are using Top tiers as the metric for HK’s being “weak” or lacking “battle experience”
Gorosei=/= your average HK
Choppers working on that
also since that garling bum is a elder now does that mean he gets some bullshit zoan power too?
or like transformation
Current aco users:
Yamato
Shanks
Luffy
Gaban
Rayleigh
Garp
Akainu
Can't vegapunk just invent an anti celestial knight blaster or sum shit like that
But I think Loki showed that blowing them away completely should work. So Nami is possibly able to kill Summers
Loki too
Its not that they lack combat experience, they are fighting top tiers with top tier stats. Strawhats like who, Luffy?
Jk akainu prob has it
Yamato has Acoc? He couldn't even break his own handcuffs
Dragon too
Im only counting confrimed
he turns into a spider
But either way its all stacked
bruh
Should all holy knights be able to fight those guys
i love the red cape
Because then how would the wg possibly lose lol
bum
red=aura
the weaker straw hats. And I definitely see them loosing against those without regen
Its bad enough that sommers can literally beat every straw hat not in the top 2
wow fraudling got promoted
It works in that sense but it can have devestating impacts on fights
If its an on off switch with ACOC
Robin came as close as she probably could against Summers
Are you saying if we gave every strawhat acoc, they’d win? Also no, Gunko didn’t need regeneration to win, neither did Sommers
Gunko needed regen vs Usopp
Gunko was untouched by every strawhat when she wanted.
She aura farmed and ate the attack
What if Sanji feeds Imu the cake he made for Big Mom. Would Imu be knocked out because that Cake 🎂 is out of this world?
She didn’t need regeneration
bro usopp literally one shot gunko but she healed back
that stupid sword killed Rocks
Garling's fall from grace was crazy
Sommers and gunko both used regen
Because she let him
Holy
bum
Regen users have weak bodies dont look at the damage they take as meaningful
Garling is the man who killed the strongest man in the world
this the type of takes we going to have during the break
see you in 2 weeks
When has usopp blown someone up, even he was shocked
ehh u going like that
Because they didn’t need to dodge
Gunko let Usopp blow her up guys
Can't believe ppl used to hype Garling up bc he is shanks sperm donor
Huh

nvm
Rather than saying Gunko let Usopp blow her I'd rather take this as Usopp getting a good feat
Anyway, Gunko outspeeds Gaban, a literal top tiers ACoC user
I think Garling is cool
They are not hopeless against ACoC

Hopefully he commits more bad things so we can scale him higher than Saturn
Sommers clashed with Gaban’s ACoC.
yeah but sommers was caught off guard by robin iirc
They are not hopeless
I pray usopp blows up a normal pirate once
Id say he surpassed him though in terms or cartoon evil
Garling has ulterior motives outside of Imu and the WG, he is fascinating
Can he blow up Nami's head?
Could Robin beat Summers with dos manos clutch?
i expected it to be yellow
Usopps not allowed to do it unless it won't work
I haven't kept up with op for months how is it going
Chair at the final 5 minutes of the fight
I think regen comes with frailty. They fall apart from any damage
Robin could end a lot of fights but she's only allowed to do that vs nameless people or people who can regen from it
Same reason Zoro diced Buggy but never did it to anyone else
Its the piccolo effect
Better than rent a girlfriend
Shes too classy for Sabo to be her true mentor
They have regen
So u can maim and chop em up as much as u like
They'll just get better
Can't do serious wounds to non-regens
Robin should've learned just armament and it's over
Chips and TV were too much fun to train for that technique, sorry
Genshin character jumpscare
The priorities are fucked up
Robin hates men?
Even without haki what are BB Shanks or Buggy going to do when Robin gets ahold of their family jewels?
Legends say Jinbei is still trying to figure out how to get out of the situation
That's not even
u sure about that?
Armament Haki for Shanks
Isn't that nicole or smth
And Wifi Haki
The Era of iron bodies is over Whitebeard Big Mom and Kaido have fallen. Now the only one who can defend against Robin is Luffy
yes
She's a genshin character correct
ye
Yeah we're gonna reach a year of Jinbe thinking
Jinbabe is a fraud
And Im gonna be merciless to the Jinbe fans. Idc
No
Jimbei after imunko is defeated:
"I've got it!"
it is
Theyve been quiet about the Jinbe beat Lucci memes now but I still remember
Stop gaslighting me 😡
Kind of evil that Jinbei after joining has been regulated as the FedEx delivery guy and now a FedEx customer service phone guy
Nuh uh
Jinbei was nerfed the moment he joined the straw hats
Jimbei better shape up im about to put franky in the top 4
Jinbabe was never strong. His feats pre time skip was tying with Ace next to the water
About to?
brook's*
Brook is stronger
Post time skip he was even with pre gear 4 luffy a luffy that was called out for being too weak for the timeskip by 3 separate people including Jinbabe himself
Wait top 4
Itll be funny if Jinbei gets the idea in his head and everyone screams at him with "WE KNOW"
Jinbei isn't even in top 4
Luffy Loki Yamato and Zoro
The biggest guy Jinbabe has beaten so far is Who's Who the guy whose claim to fame was being almost as good as enies Lucci
Jinbei should eat the water water no mi if there is any
if loki joins the crew even zoro wont matter
I need to redo my SH powerscaling per arc tier list
usopp will cease to exist
Did you know there was a time Zoro was stronger than Luffy?
when?
I mean probably when they were kids
two piece
Luffy was seriously trying to kill Zoro in Whiskey Peak but failed. This is when they were around even
Before Luffy ate his fruit Zoro prolly was
But in Alabasta and up until enies Zoro pulled ahead getting new techniques and stronger abilities
Kid luffy would destroy kid zoro with just the metal pipe no df
i don’t remember that. Why were the two fighting again?
Luffy nearly lost to Foxy and almost got beat by Usopp pre gears
Because Luffy's a bad person and a bad friend.
If Kid Zoro has a sword, he beats Luffy up until Luffy starts training
Luffy is an asshole
Kid Zoro probably beats Luffy up to like 12
Probably the biggest ooc moment for Luffy at that point in the story
i dont remember what happened
what did he do
We like to pretend it didnt happen
Oda was probably harassed by editors to make them fight for the generic shounen trope
Gag tbh
Zoro never stood a chance
people here seem to be useless when it comes to answering question seriously
Luffy has fought with half of his nakama so far. He will probably do it with all of them eventually
Sabo and Bonney are the only pipe welders right
I dont remember anyone else that uses pipes as weapons
pipe welder
We got Luffy vs Zoro, luffy vs Sanji, Luffy vs Usopp, Luffy vs Vivi, Luffy vs Franky, and Luffy vs Jinbabe
pipe welder
Sabo having a pipe as his main weapon is funny
Luffy was drunk and half-asleep, so when he saw Zoro standing among the cut-down bodies of the people that just threw them a free party and said “yeah luffy I DID do this to them,” luffy flew off the handle
Obv its tweaked with
But still
People act like it’s out of character but it wasn’t
Still missing vs Nami, Chopper, Karoo, and Robin but I don't see how Luffy would ever fight Robin
This is how Sabo made his pipe
Also, dont forget, Vergo fought with regular bamboo stick
Hes a good welder of the pipe
Luffy is already hot headed. And he’s drunk, half asleep and barely knows Zoro atp
Whoa
Luffy should fight Nami, Robin and Chopper in gear 5 with acoc
was this in the manga as well?
Yeah
Yes it was.
Luffy wasn't drunk he exclusively ate. And Zoro didn't say anything, luffy came swinging without giving him a chance to talk
well he was drunk. Drunk people do stupid things
Bamboo > pipe
Luffys explanation was he thought Zoro went wild when they didn't give him food he liked
That’s not true, Luffy was drinking with em. And even if you discount that, he was still half asleep
Some funny images while I searched for the tier list I made
Luffy does talk to Zoro btw
That is the amount of confidence he had in Zoros moral character
He wasn’t drunk. He was just stupid. That’s his style.
He screams “DID YOU DO THIS”
Zoro responds “well yeah but-“
And Luffy attacks before Zoro can finish cause he’s a hot head who was asleep four minutes ago and was partying all night
the 2nd image lmao
I remember now I wanted to see that fight continue, but Nami neg diffed them both
People are naming this "Sabos weapon" and selling it and its a literally just a pipe
The entire joke is that when Luffy learns what happened he says “oh why didn’t you say so” cause he’s a hot head
Beautiful
Luffy woke up to pee. Sees the massacred people he asks who did it and they say Zoro. Luffy then comes to kill Zoro opening with I've had it with you. We're going to fight
nice
Yeah I love how granular that tier list is
Its going to keep growing
w
I mean, yeah you are pretty mean
Brook took 50 years and accomplished nothing
The lower section is def off
my man likes to chill
We about to find out if Brook was a Celestial Dragon or not
Oh we can powerscale
nah man
Shaky says old man Raybae is 100 times stronger than the rookies one of which being Luffy. Nightmare Luffy is made up of 100 shadows
I would hate it if brook were a celestial dragon. I'd consider it a small plot hole that he never said anything this whole time
I mean technically he did
fr
Always took that to mean combined
A certain kingdom could be Mary Geoise
I think the twist is gonna be gunko was taken from his old kingdom
Plus, that would make Shadow Asgard Moria > Rayleigh
Nah you don't "uhm technicallllyyyy " lie to your family level crew
They never asked?
Dude cmon why you being obtuse
Strawhat backstories only become important when it’s brought up during a arc
Brook might have had his wife stolen by a dragon who then had Gunko
or he might have clapped imu and boom gunko
We know Shanks was allowed to come back into the family so it's possible Bonney would have been accepted to
All the shit that's happened with celestial dragons and he just keeps it quietly to himself cause they never asked?
Bonney got discarded like trash so probably not
For me I think it might be CD that's tried to leave like doffys dad maybe they took over the old country they came from, than I would also say because royal family used to do this that in the manmayer family they had a marriage with nefataris so one day Imu decided to attack and take Gunko that where she crying?
Oh it is also possible a female dragon took Brook for a ride
episode was so good
Next princess
Mvc2 mentioned
they did so good with kuma bonney scene
They wipe islands every 3 years there's plenty of opportunities to kidnap children
Brook was somewhat famous and a good musician. Perhaps one the Maymare girls wanted him for a night of passion and made him their husband like what Charlos was doing with his wives
They didn't kidnap Gunko as a child
I don't know if we can decisively say that
How do we know that?
So how long do you guys give elbaph?
but gunko is special in some way
They show her crying pretty grown
gunko is a cindry parallel
That I'm pretty sure is when she was taken when she yells father
Parallelism....
I estimate up til June of next year
Upscaling Nightmare Luffy to Base Egghead Luffy is funny
Afro Luffy not even being in the convo is a bit criminal
Isnt it crazy how this Brook subplot is sitting in the back of all this
Nightmare luffy is like at most dressrosa g4
Elbaph is fire
fr
afro luffy is too powerful to powerscale
Brooks is going to break Gunko out of it
Ussop confirmed that the afro multipled your strength
when i watched sabaody there was a slave that said he came from a family of musicians from the west blue from an island from toroa and that was the only time toroa was mentioned but i still think brook is from toroa
gunko could be a bastard child kinda like shanks
Failure on Luffybros looking over that factoid
It should be noted Luffy unironically would have lost to Foxy if not for afro power
Right now I wonder if Gear 5 luffy can peel off the seal off of someboy?
expect her mother was royalty or smth
Hopefully when Ragnir strikes Luffy with Lighnting. His hair forms an afro
So we can get Afro Gear 5
Foxy is strong losing to him isn't shameful
Because that would be a perfect time to see what Imu officially looks like
we never thought abt gunko joining the SH huh? or does that sound dumb
It is dumb
I've heard people say it but I don't like it personally
Surviving an exorcism is usually very hard to do.
After Carrot got screwed over? Crew's full
well like the seal breaking and stuff and reunion with brook
Elbaf wasn't even supposed to happen I don't see anyone from this arc joining the crew
no spoilers
She's got nothing other than devoted imu and these 4 panels
NO BONNEY, NO YAMATO, NO VIVI, NO LOKI NO GUNKO NOBODY NOBODYS JOINING
Gunko should probably die to atone for killing so many slaves in god valley
Well I mean no. The afro is just a very pivotal part of the arc
Vivi doesn't need to join she's already a crewmate
So again, Indigex where tf is Afro Luffy scaling
She was being controlled to do those stuff
She's gonna need a ton of ramp up for us to care and it's too late for that
Zoro will also get kicked out for his inability to use conquerors haki efficiently
I dont think he was on that tier list ironically
Bonney is too broken for the strawhats
Too Broken
Bro she can't manage her free form for more than 5 minutes
She also had to get help from co to even blast Mars away
Legendary ragebait reply
Like gunko's backstory would be perfect to reveal Imu's face
she gets exhausted in like 2 mintues whatever form she turns to
After I screamed like that too?
Bonney herself is fine. Well probably not but let's say she's fine. The issue is she can affect people besides herself
She can give Sanji a hobi hobi alternative future. And give him Sugars powers
Well considering Haki is used to get yourself out of situations im sure you can overpower it.
Which makes Doll a big fraud
She can just age Luffy up normally and make him at his prime
In fact thats kind of embarrassing coming from her beating up Pacfistas and such prior.
still waiting on those essays btw
Like ayyy caramba
She has to believe in all that
She can turn Nami into an Imu eating Sludge monster. Bonneys powers are limitless
And Bonney isnt delusional
Bonney is a 12 year old
That's a good thing
shes 12
Her preception can only go so far.
She cant just believe everything
She coudl probably read the poneglyphs if she can imagine a future that she can
Theres very clear big limitations to her power.
So shes definitely not as broken as many people claim she is.
If she wants it she can do it
also we need to see the data in that facility
Again, all of this sounds appealing but then you consider shes a 12 year old child.
Id say the reverse actually. She's too old to just imagine everything as true. She had the Nika stuff instilled in her but otherwise she sees the world for what it is
where are those essays indi
The one giant arm doesn't exist. But Bonney was able to do it because she felt like it
Which is true considering shes probably seen the harsh reality of being a pirate.
So her vision of the world ignoring her belief system is pretty bleak
Im DEFINETLY pushing them out 2026
Gimme a him ish future
She probably don't even believe in Santa anymore
Isn't that fucked up
it’s been like 3 years
True
Anyways yes Bonney is getting the hammer over Ussop
But Im not a college student anymore so I can waste more time than before
Bonney is a better support than even Kidd. She will probably be left at elbaf because if left unchecked she can trivialize anything
We actually have a lot of reinforcements
Luffy, Zoro, Sanji, Franky, Bonney and more
Shes going to become the queen of Eblaf in Loki's stead
Elbaf might even end because Bonney ages up the kids with a nikaish future
nobody getting ragnir
its loki's
Chopper can talk to animals
Loki is getting his brother's love and trust
nah, Loki will be the queen of elbaf
Loki needs a queen successor if he leaves
Also I kinda doubt Bonney can give others a Nika like future
I mean he acts like one
She can imagine somebody but old
She can put loki in his prime
Somebody but Nika is an extra step tho
Well her belief in her own freedom is exclusive to her
Hell its not like she can imagine her dad being restored
Her idea of what freedom is to others is wildly different
She cant do everything lol
She has shown that she can make alternative futures and gave Luffy the bad end future
At most I can see her make them fat and chungus like
Not with that attitude
I started imagining all the gorosei as fat, and it was an amusing thought
She can do whatever she believes is possible
I mean tbf you have a point
Why arent they all fat
1155 is the last episode?? I mean it's on break now?? Anyone?
They just sit around all day
And that is absurd. Even if it was just for herself
they do squats
one piece turning to seasonal anime
Theyre moving to a seasonal schedule. Back in April
have u seen that one fan art of the elders
hol up
So no more until April..?
nope
Soneoen did that?!
lmao yeah
Well the issue is her effects aren’t permanent
We need more of that
Hm
Thats a good point
Daily morning exercises does lower body mass
Bro gettin straight teeth
but is it a muscle point?
Its a brain point
Did bonney release on pw4
Nice
New pog emote
don't worry, they grew back when he became a skeleton
Does bonneys powers work on inorganic material?
Yes.
She rusted a guy's sword
Was that in a movie or on egghead?
So with Egghead concluding in the anime, it was pretty short with 71 eps.
Bonney is definitely a good fighter
She had to be in order to be considered a Supernova
She isn't but she can simply make a future where she is
That future is real.
Yes
It worked on the robot sea beasts
Turned it into a kid
Also yeah that too.
Oda always be making DFs that mess with the future (toki, Bonney)
But he’s too pussy to make a fruit that changes the past
Good
Yeah because if that existed I would be him
Even though a fruit that manipulates the past should exist, imma hope it just doesn’t or at least is extremely limited
The past has already happened the future is ours to decide
that would be kinda bad writing
AND
Wdym we have gum gum no mi right there 
Did Egghead end in the latest episode?
Or will it end in the next season of the anime?
its over
Here is @rose rune's avatar.
He shouldn’t
Altering the past freely brings up a slew of issues
Also I think Oda simply wants to reinforce that the past is already done and the future is what you should be working forwards.
The best way to do anything with going back in time is:
-
not readily accessible
-
Timeline remains stable
It’s not impossible to have both
That’s the beauty of stable time loops
He did twins, amnesia, mind control. Everything that makes people mad. He will make time travel to the past too 
In fact it kind of reinforces that if going back in time just causes history to play out the way it did before you went back
Yeah, I think a past changing fruit but it abuses the mental state of the user by letting them go back but it ultimately means nothing and it takes you back to the present is pretty brtual.
I’m glad Oda has this mentality
Storytelling as a medium would be immensely worse if writers believed in “bad tropes”
Like it being a mental thing rather than something tangible
one piece would be immensely better if oda didnt indulge in those bad tropes
his beard was well kept
Maybe it allows the user to still find good info
That can still be useful for the present
you list those things off like theyre not the worst parts of one piece
if those things can be great, one piece is not the example of it
what a cutie
This is kinda why I advocate for Vegapunk’s machine being the vehicle for time travel
You need draw backs and limitations
aw hell nah
Honestly the past fruit being a mental thing rather than something tangible like Toki's future fruit was would be good.
Let it actually take you to the past but only in your memories.
Mhm
Yeah that could be cool too
You can still learn new things and even somewhat influence situations but in the end it never happens nor actually change anything
It just gives you a new prespective every time
That’s a good support/recon ability
Of course this comes with a toll that it ruins your prespective of the past and obviously no mentally unwell person should hold it.
It’s like an inverse of future sight
I can see someone like dragon being tortured by this power
Seeing atrocities and being unable to intervene
Itll sort of be a weirder version of what Pudding can do.
Except its limited to what you know and experienced
You can relive scenarios and maybe dig deeper into it
But yeah thats the only way I can see that working within the story
Maybe in an awakened sense it can tap into other people but all this does is learn their past and nothing more
Knowledge is probably the most dangerous weapon in this story
I still think a bootstrap paradox is on the table
But I love this idea
It’s like a combo of pudding and violas fruit
me on January 1st
Yeah, honestly it should be heavily be restricted and limited but it can work
It being a more personal fruit rather than something that can change the story is ideal
And obviously if you can learn something with every use of it, this makes you stronger with what you gain in exchange
I hope they animated every single frame as painful as possible
Dude deserves to experience this ad infinitum in hell if there's one
https://fixupx.com/Leleo2211/status/2005284611719589969
major Baron Omatsuri vibes
efficient way to make it look like blood splatter without it being blood
That ship took that like a champ
can't wait for people to scale it against Ragnir
Me that one time I drank McDonald’s sprite for the first time
oh wow, crazy animation for that bums death
Damn egghead started two years ago in the anime
break next week?
nah
ur lying
brooo stop lying
LMAO
that gif tells me nothing
Like it was NOT necessary
the skull jumpscare at the end was kinda funny
Pack watch
ah
it reminds me abt sun and universe
Can we fire the VA that screamed at it.
the skeleton appears
It does come off mad petty
exactly what i thought of
So him throwing that coffee down is a final act of petty greed
i think it's meant to be petty
You think Saturn teleported, grabbed a random skeleton and threw it at them to feign his death within the smoke?

Like merry said
Count the teeth!
are they cooking dirt
💀
the teeth…
Yes count the teeth
Oh Saturns dead in the anime?
yep
Rip to the last of bonney’s biological family
Bonney could've had a cool grandpa
Wym the Figarlands are still alive
He was just trying to save his friends poor saturn
Sb 💔
he deserved a better love story
Saturn will be redeemed soon 
Its the last episode they had to go out with a bang ig
egghead really did end in december
True
sb noved on to loki now
What bit will Mailbox do now
Terrible news for loki fans globally
Sb moves on to characters weekly so i dont take it too seriously
SB used to stand for Saturn Brother
Loki fans are already championed by satan himself. Sb is the least of our worries
Loki fans were being plagued by a certain someone long before SB arrived 
I am proud of sb for sticking with rocks
Sticking with Rocks
He left him when he died
Sb has not stuck with anything ever
SB jumped that ship eons ago
Going this hard for a character that’s just gonna stay back and rule elbaf at the end of the arc
Big Mom?
I hope he does
Yeah we knew that
Kid will rule Elbaf
We'll be fine
I think Loki dies
Kid will rule the Eblaf Kindergarden as their new caretaker
BM in Elbaf is the new Moria in Wano
tbh not sticking with a fave is based
is it?
he will def help in the final war
By dying
He did change his name color to match with Rocks biggest hater so maybe you right 
yeah I can slander and glaze whoever I feel like any give day
Actually people have been saying she will be in Elbaf since Wano so I guess not new
Rule of thumb, if his favorite of the month dies or suffers a agenda blow, hes swapping
No second thoughts
An agenda blow 😭
Nah
we had a brief shanks sb phase
He comes back with a redemption chapter release
i guess so, lol
@pine scaffold these niggas talking bout you behind ya back
also noone can come for me if i have no agenda
We gotta have brook kid loki hajrudin bm enel usopp imu plotlines in elbaf

600 chapter arc
don’t forget uta
Usopp's is the most important one
What if Ragnir is reincarnated Big Mom?
i hope that Hajrudin gets a fruit of his own
she’s up there in the heaven realm too
Or die lmao
Loki isn’t dying
Loki wont die for a while at least
surprised that they showed Gaban in the anime, already
He might
He could die like final arc
loki is absolutely guaranteed not to die here
like Oars on Marineford?
ACE-SU
jarul might die though
Yeah except he'd do more than Little Oars Jr
Oars Jr. is goated
poor oars
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Oda knows gaming
Yeah and I might get a job and stop being a bum ass loser
Doesn’t make it any more likely to happen
Where did they even find this guy
Happens a lot
Living rent free in #also-manga head
L self-deprecation W Speed
Can my overweight Guinea Pig named ChungusJr get your autograph
so true antimony
Fuck em
Just like you finding true love
Good point
Self deprecating humor will be back as soon trust, people are already bringing back millennial fashion
I might have to put a pause on the Loki glaze, I'm not sure
NO NOT CUZ OF THAT
Can we bring back like 70's counter culture fashion back I dont want millennial fashion back
Real men commit
is there a break next week
yes
first we have to get rid of the "lol, I'm so random" humor
Yeah suicide 🤞🤞🤞
This chapter is very strange and it's hard to understand (with the whole regen thing and acoc defense)
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He killed the worst Nazi to exist
You just need to hit then harder with Haki
Life is all about trade offs
Thats it.
we haven’t had narwhal bacon humor in a good while
Shot him right in the noggin
Point blank
So to beat the HK, you need to keep hitting them with haki over and over non stop
His wife too
With intensity is what I got yes.
Easy to do
but didnt Rocks do that and it didnt kill Garling
Gaban failed because he wasnt able to keep that pace up
When they are such bums
or did he leave him be
left him
It was the same with dr
Rocks just left garling
Thats probably why Shanks is so full on with the Haki
But garling was clearly having a bad time
Specifically to deal with them when the situation arises
Yeah you have to overwhelm their healing
Yeah.
This clears lots of things up like our debates with the Roger Pirates being able to bypass regen
Like the HK are bums for the most part MAYBE like 2 exceptions
like you said, you didnt wanna assume they can do it
Essentially you have to be very overwhelming with it enough to where the regen can't really compete.
If it means not letting "lol i have crippling depression :D" comedy flourish, then i shall resuccitate "lolz so random XD" humor in its wake 
but now we know they can
Seems like he may have pinned him to the ground with his own sword
for sure
@pine scaffold change your fucking name christmas is GONE
Even if they are immortal. They can just be beat up forever
I guess what happens is the regen keeps slowing down to the point where it's non existent
and you die
Which is why I think Shanks is on the road to be the first guy if Luffy and co fail Eblaf.
Dont worry we will get one more powerful gods knight that wont suck
shoujo prince will save them
what we actually need is more variation
We need to bring back chungus comedy
so like
hmm maybe
Remember when we used to laugh at fat animals
Gaban says he never fought a HK with coc before
does this mean Harald was using acoc defense similar to Rocks
or just using it in general
I like tacos, but eating it every day makes me hate it
unfortunately it turns out that was usually pretty unhealthy for the animal
yes yes im aware variation defeats staleness
put a damper on things
I dont think so
The fact that a subreddit was made to rate and cutify fat animals was the last straw for me
because Shanks and Gaban clearly were cutting him up
Similar to rocks, just coc defense
No, Harald starts using it later in the fight
and Shanks and Gaban stop attacking him
cuz they know its futile
They do, we see them gone when Loki arrives and they are with Jarul
It was different
Rocks was able to totally nullify their attacks
Harald still was getting hit
I wanted the fish back. looked better than blushing saturn
is there a break next week for manga
let me show u guys what I mean
yes
Its Xmas break
This happens towards the end of the chapter, this is the last time we see Shanks and Gaban fight Harald
This is also when Harald finally starts using acoc haki
He did not use it previously
this week was the break, but chapter leaked early, so yeah. break
it's meant to be next week basically
well this upcoming week
yup
so Ch 1172 when we expecting it
so the official version of the chapter we just got will come out next sunday
yup
Uhh
so not next week but the week after?
Thigh
sounds good
frons
Isn't the next chapter 1171
oh yeah, right
this but 1171
We just move on to loki after
Shanks and Gaben probs keep fighting him in more of a stalemate type fight. So no reason for more updates
I personally think him using coc haki doesnt mean hes using it defensively, hes just using it to imbue his weapons with it
Then they back off when Loki shows up as a massive monster thing
Is next chapter gonna be the final one of the flashback or is it this one
I think Loki's adventures being shown in this flashback is pretty unlikely now
Damn I did not expect the new episode to hit me in the feels like that 😭
1 more flashback chapter of Jarul, Loki, Shanks, and Gaben making the plan for Loki to take the fall
actually after this Harald leaves and kills guards
then Loki arrives
So either way, Shanks and Gaben would back off
Dang
we have to wait a week
2 week break
son of a BITCH!
greedy tcb working during the holidays
Let's collectively blame Sb for this.
for some reason Harald didnt use acoc haki at all when he fights Loki
no break next week but also no chapter next week
Wouldn't help him
This is so stupid why does Oda keep making characters stop using haki
It looked like Harald went to the throne room after beating Shanks and Gyaban
Why does Oda keep using haki? DFs are right there?
Loki's base boosted physical stats just broke everything Harald had, haki or not
he used conq
That is what the fruit was for
so Loki was able to break through and not Shanks/Gaban
?
I still don't get why the fruit was necessary.
Loki was very impressive this chapter
Through sheer physical force
cuz Shanks and Gaban say Loki was the best shot
Pre fruit Loki was losing to a squirrel
For base boosted physical stats
Well either because it somehow counters Imu's abyss powers or because it makes Loki hit really hard
does just having a fruit, but not being in hybrid or zoan form actually up stats?
Loki with the legendary fruit got base boosted physical stats to beat Harold down
Although that's a fair point couldn't Shanks or Gyaban have also eaten the fruit? I guess Gyaban just figured base Loki > base Shanks
And weakened him
what do u think about the squirrel comment
Then landed the coc blow
Throwing the word base around a lot
What specifically
Also
Eating breakfast
Brb
Share?
now we're onto something
Do u think it means Harald is unable to tame Ragnir
and only now with Imu boost he can
Squirrel diff
This is like the worst chapter to not have Viz translations
Isn’t that a chipmunk
we need the most accurate ones
Based on Meeks tl
This is the only logical conclusion
it could be a thing where its like
Harald younger wasnt able to tame it
and never bothered since
but now with the Imu boost he can for sure tame it no problem
all rodents look the same to me
Yeah true, but this also applies to all the previous kings of elbaf
That’s probably it
Since zoans have wills just like swords it’s probably the same concept
They choose their user
I think Harald being the peace-loving giant that he is wouldnt want to eat the fruit that could supposedly destroy the world
Now maybe Harald as a teen tried which Loki could be stronger than
Yeah, past kings were bums
Young Loki being stronger than Young Harald makes sense
Harald has probably not tried to get that fruit for a century
keep in mind there’s only been like 3 generations total assuming the fruit is from the void century
i think young harald definitely might have tried
he probably did
What about if the haki causes the cancer
Young Harald was a jerk

destroying places etc
Use more haki.
it makes sense he tried to get it but failed
Surely previous kings of elbaf were strong af
past kings were probably nothing special
Loki wasn't beating that squirrel. He lost his hammer and all squirrel got was an ouchie
What probably happened is after realizing it was an animal Loki used talk no jutsu and won it over
Oh yeah, I assumed as much
Harald inferred that he would be able to take the fruit now with the power of Imu inferring previously he was too weak
I had grits, scrambled eggs, breakfast potatoes, and chicken fried steak. Help yourself
I dont think the Harald that fought Xebec would be unable to tho
Squirrel was stronger than Rocks
doesnt make sense
Squirrel is secretly top 1
Ehh, it makes sense.
Does it
My 8 year old son with leukemia is a bum ass fraud for not fighting hard enough
Like, sure the powerscaling is a bit weird but Harold and Rocks aren't as strong as you think they are
Rocks was the strongest in the world
They aren't like top 3 in the verse
There are statements which say Rocks is Roger's strongest adversary and some of Roger's adversaries are equals and the same lvl of power as him
which means Rocks is stronger
The squirrel is just stronger
Backstabber and offscreen. That's where BB gets it from
Nothing Loki showed there combat wise is something they shouldn’t be able to do brah
This the Davy bloodline technique
It’s probably just a chosen one type thing
We've been over this before
dawg Gaban’s voice is deep af lmao I wasnt expecting that
there is no reality where Rocks and Harald are losing to fucking Kaido
are u kidding me
Harald was even with Rocks. Got a power up and immortality. Blew past Gyaban and Shanks together and then got beat by Loki
Apparently it’s the VA for Sephiroth 😭
i got my study material for bed
