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vital heart
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i think around then we can get the finale of imu vs luffy

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uh

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honestly not many ideas

grand flower
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Yup

vital heart
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all I can say for certain is that 1200 will have a good luffy moment :)

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1000 had red roc

grand flower
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Yeah that was the tits

vital heart
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1100 had kid luffy in kuma's flashback using the signature axe move against arlong

tidal ice
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One piece at 1200

vital heart
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just nice luffy moments

grand flower
vital heart
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i can see 1200 being luffy just having a nice conversation with loki or something.

trim lily
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1100 didnt have anything particularily significant

vital heart
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yeah

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i reread

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1100 just has a nice montage of the entire OP world in the past ending with luffy

distant vine
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My face hurts from smiling

shadow knoll
dense haven
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yall liked the chapter?

stone terrace
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Im a little upset loki isnt the squirrel but ive come around

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Ragnir is awesome

nimble patio
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Toad does not miss

fallen meteor
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Toadgashi misses a lot

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but this one is funny

prisma yacht
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Tru imagine hating on WARP

shadow knoll
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i like his arts

dense haven
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goatgashi never misses

shadow knoll
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since we don't get that many original memes

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tidal ice
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Hes the toad

prisma yacht
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of the gashi BBWise

golden valley
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Now this is a good meme

shadow knoll
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i found this so funny

golden valley
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And its facts

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Ragnir > all YC1’s

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shadow knoll
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but they are getting bullied every time they do something major

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dense haven
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this is his magnum opus

fallen meteor
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watching horse racing rn and

nimble patio
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Umm what?

fallen meteor
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he changed it in like 2 days

nimble patio
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Bruh

lofty fern
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If he wasn't already a crap father, this sealed it

shadow knoll
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why did you think he was good in the first place

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he killed his wife for shakky

dense haven
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garling is rat mom level

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trim lily
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at least he might care for shamrock

sage temple
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Current Ragnir and Loki might be Awakened

shadow knoll
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which is wild in it's own terms

tidal ice
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What does an awakened squirrel do

obtuse imp
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Not sure if this crack theory is common but, anyone potentially think Luffy’s insane emotional intelligence is an observation Haki thing that Joyboy also has?

shadow knoll
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Oda's definitely thought abt it and ik dat

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sage temple
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This is no normal squirrel my friend

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Unless you're trying to say the lightning comes from Loki ShanksHmmm

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If the lightning comes from Loki then Loki is immune to seastone

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vital heart
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And in Amazon Lily

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and in Marineford

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So yes/

shadow python
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What do squirrels have to do with lightning? The lightning effect is probably from his zoan not the hammer

hoary steppe
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True

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Its for usopp

sage temple
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"It's for Ussop" G5Laugh

shadow python
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2025 did turn out to be a good year for Dragon and Shiki

dense haven
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if you have low standards sure

shadow python
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Dragon saved Iva Ginny and Kuma, went against orders and rebelled against the marines, and was the unexpected hero of Shanks

sage temple
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Ussop was probably at one of his lowest standings this year

dense haven
sage temple
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Awfully ironic

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I thought this was his arc

shadow python
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Usopp outperformed Jinbabe

dense haven
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I guess beggars cant be chosers

shadow python
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They both lost to Gunko but Usopp at least did what looked like way more damage

shadow knoll
shadow python
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I anticipate Usopp encouraging the giants to take back their pride. You can love peace without throwing away your history

drowsy tiger
prisma yacht
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Yes usopp's gonna inspire them all

shadow python
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Usopp didn't get Lokis story time though he doesn't know about Harald or his endeavor to change giant society

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Though I feel like this is definitely something the crews historian Robin should more or less know. Probably not Harold's deal with the govt. But definitely the push for Elbaf to be more of a peace-loving nation

shadow knoll
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the theory that the OP world used to be like ours (filled with technology) and after the war, they downgraded their tech is pretty prevelant

sage temple
shadow knoll
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it's a popular theory in the real world, maybe one day earth will get destroyed too and our descendants will go back to old methods of living

sage temple
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It would be funny if absolutely nothing happens to Ussop this arc and he just exists as a stagnant character

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Lmao

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It's starting to seem like it too

shadow knoll
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well im coping regardless

sage temple
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Yeah I know

shadow knoll
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but you can't tell this is the most suitable arc and setup for him to shine

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Oda has all the pieces in his hands, he can do it if he wants to

sage temple
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He can do that in any arc if he wants to

shadow knoll
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there's a lot of material to back it up as well

sage temple
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Sure Ussop getting an upgrade is possible

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But realistically Ussop's upgrade likely isn't going to make this arc his

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If anything it looks like a Loki arc

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Loki has had the more focus than pretty much anyone else in an arc excluding the Strawhats so far

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Dude got introduced like 4 chapters into the arc and Toei is already animating him

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What a goated character

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Anyways good luck Ussop fans

shadow knoll
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so you gorra have a character like him

sage temple
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True Loki has been established as anyone's "best bet" at countering Imu

prisma yacht
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So cute

shadow knoll
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when world building and power scaling becomes this vast, some important characters are bound be called as frauds

prisma yacht
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Nom nom nom

shadow knoll
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it's inevitable

prisma yacht
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not really

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it's these agenda mfs

shadow knoll
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maybe wit piece won't offscreen all the fights that Oda off-screened and it will do justice

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Black Blade > All

dense haven
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that squirrel would neg diff mihawk

ruby moat
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Well, the poll may be correct, but black blade is not definitively best

shadow knoll
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the squirrel sneezing is enough to obliterate mihawk outta existence Pfftt

shadow python
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Could Ragnir win in a fight against Yoru without Mihawk? Of course it can

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For that matter Namis pole is also stronger than most weapons

sage temple
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Yoru is stronger than Mihawk himself but yall aren't ready for that quite yet

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This spread is one of the greater ones we've seen this year

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vital heart
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hey guys

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@tranquil blade yo!

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@tranquil blade i have a question: should I redo the top 20 ?

dense haven
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yes

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make a top 20 best twerkers in opverse

vital heart
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Top 1 Harald

hazy turret
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Okay just read chapter

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Anyone that still thinks Loki is joining…

vital heart
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rokaya

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wanna see my updated top 20 strongest characters list

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Updated from July 24

hazy turret
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Sure yeah

vital heart
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@hazy turret

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WE ARE EUSTASS KIDDDDDDDDD

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Lowkidenuinely

blazing depot
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To my friend King Harald, rest now brother. We have the watch now, I’ll see you in Valhalla

hazy turret
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I’d put ragnir and shamrock lower tbh

blazing depot
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Wait does Elbaph have a Valhalla equivalent

vital heart
# hazy turret I’d put ragnir and shamrock lower tbh

i would agree with you on shamrock but recently ive been convinced that he's closer in strength to shanks than we currently think, even closer than garling, lmao.

for ragnir sure - i might take ragnir off cuz idk if ragnir counts as a "character", otherwise, I should technically put zunesha and emeth on that too, and i dont.

crimson yacht
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Still might be time for u to delete this

blazing depot
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Or is it fictional like Sovngarde

vital heart
blazing depot
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That’s not the afterlife dumbass

vital heart
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TF is valhalla then

blazing depot
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That’s a place in the mortal realm

vital heart
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Valhalla is Heaven u idiot

crimson yacht
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If we’re talking characters at their old age then how is gaban and Rayleigh over fujitora

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Why is luffy above akainu bb

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Shanks > Mihawk is insane

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Rest is fine

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actually garp under ragnir is also wild

crimson yacht
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he is above old gaban and old Rayleigh

vital heart
crimson yacht
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If you are talking prime then

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conversation is different

vital heart
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I'm not talkign about primes

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This is current strength

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Like if you made them fight in the modern story rn

thin crown
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in manga they showed elbaph has different villages so there r more giants? and who r the elder giants who opposed harald

crimson yacht
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but there is actually nothing old gaban can do to fujitora arsenal

vital heart
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current gaban > fuji im ngl

crimson yacht
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Blackbeard should be top 5

vital heart
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gaban can beat holy knights, i dont think fujitora can

crimson yacht
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fujitora can’t cause he isn’t conquerors confirmed

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But tht doesn’t rlly matter

vital heart
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yeah characters with conquerors will naturally be higher than characters without it, on average

crimson yacht
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Kizaru can’t kill a knight but zoro technically can

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But no one has zoro > kizaru

vital heart
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Yeah so why are you talking about zoro and kizaru 😭

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I'm talking about fuji and gaban

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The gaban today has shown to be able to easily beat holy knights like sommers and only a few years ago was able to slice harald. so far we have no indication on if fuji can do anything on that same level considering we've only seen him fight bums like sabo law and doflamingo and wash all of them

crimson yacht
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because conquerors is not an end all be all

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Nor does it matter who can kill a knight

crimson yacht
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Same Rayleigh who couldn’t stall an admiral for more than a few minutes

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Gaban and Rayleigh can effortlessly dismantle a HK but they can’t to an admiral

unique lagoon
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a CoC blade should be more deadly than a CoC punch
cuz you know cut of limbs and shit
but oda pref them to be almost on par

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now he added HKs which has regen and also for some reason more brittle bodies

ruby moat
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yea swords are inherently more lethal than a punch

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same with an axe

sweet kettle
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sage temple
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We don't know if Shanks and Loki fought so theres no reason to base Loki's placement off of that vague assumption

crimson yacht
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Wasnt it shanks who ltierally beat loki

unique lagoon
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its the cutting capability thats the main part

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i mean look at zoro
cut off kings wing

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could have been an arm or a leg if oda wanted to

sage temple
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I agree with everything else except

  1. Imu
  2. Dragon
  3. Loki
  4. Gorosei
  5. Shanks
  6. Mihawk
  7. Luffy
  8. Akainu
  9. Blackbeard
  10. Shamrock
sage temple
unique lagoon
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i need to check again but i think herald cut off some arm in this chapter

sage temple
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Shanks and Loki fighting isn't confirmed at all

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unique lagoon
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the whole idea that he got trick

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its been theorized since the reveal

sage temple
crimson yacht
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Shanks isnt poisoning Loki

sage temple
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Queen captured Big Mom

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why would Loki agree to be captured

sage temple
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Assuming we were given no context on that

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and what hostage would Shanks use

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and Shanks wouldnt use hostages

sage temple
unique lagoon
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i mean we have seen shanks fronting already

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with barto

sage temple
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Exactly

unique lagoon
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guys an actor

crimson yacht
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Shanks fronting with barto was to test his loyalty

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what im saying is its not an unlikely idea

crimson yacht
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He didnt even give him actual poison

unique lagoon
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he is a pirate after all

sage temple
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It's just pretty obvious that there are ways Loki could've been captured by Shanks that doesn't spell out a fight

unique lagoon
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i pref thinking about why he captured loki and sent him back to elbaf

crimson yacht
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Point is

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someone wouldve mentioned by now

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if Shanks fucked around and used some

unique lagoon
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i think this mf shanks actually planned the meeting of the 2 DF users

crimson yacht
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cheap method to take Loki back

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it doesnt even align with shanks character

sage temple
# hoary steppe Bb that low?

I dunno where to put Blackbeard since he can't use ACoC so far and he seemed to be struggling a bit against Law

crimson yacht
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at all

sage temple
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So no

hoary steppe
sage temple
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Nobody would've definitively mentioned that

crimson yacht
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Gabans statement claiming no one could stop Loki except Shanks

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heavily implies a fight

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in faact he refers to shanks individually

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and not the Red Haired Pirates

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or an exterior force

sage temple
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Not except

crimson yacht
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so this was not a kaido 8v1 situation

unique lagoon
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why not both
it was a fight and also a trick at the same time

sage temple
crimson yacht
sage temple
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Yes

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however

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Gabans full statement was

sage temple
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That was an 8v1

crimson yacht
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Loki was locked up by Red-Haired Shanks

sage temple
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Gaban's full statement was nobody could stop Loki until Shanks

crimson yacht
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If this commenting on the kaido circumstance

sage temple
crimson yacht
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it would be referring to

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the alliance

sage temple
crimson yacht
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I dont believe gaban witnessed it

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However

sage temple
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And saying "Loki was locked up by Shanks" doesn't mean a fight at all

crimson yacht
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Shanks bringing back Loki to elbaf

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would just

sage temple
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tell Gaban

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why and how

sage temple
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Queen chained up Big Mom

crimson yacht
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this is happening

crimson yacht
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Big Mom fell asleep dude

sage temple
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If Queen chained up Big Mom does that mean he fought BM?

crimson yacht
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Unless u think shanks

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put chains around Loki

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while he was sleeping

sage temple
crimson yacht
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You have to start using context clues and basic implicatoins

sage temple
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You're acting like Loki's situation is an antithesis to BM and Queen

crimson yacht
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This statement by Gaban is clearly not showing any implication of Shanks

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mickey moused his way

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into capturing Loki

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its not the intention of the author or the tone of the scene

sage temple
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This doesn't mean it was a 1v1

pearl star
crimson yacht
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Because Luffy did kill Kaido ?

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However thats not the same statement

sage temple
pearl star
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and even then japanese is brutally contextual

sage temple
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Many went against Kaido

crimson yacht
sage temple
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When that's just not true

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No ones saying its impossible

sage temple
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I'm giving you examples of alternative scenarios

crimson yacht
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However its very clear its not through

sage temple
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Yes you are

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some sort of

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nosnense queen situation

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chains him up while hes sleeping

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We don't know the specifics

crimson yacht
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Any off screen fight i could give a mickey mouse explanation on how it wasn't actually a fight

vital heart
crimson yacht
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Point is you have to look at context and author intention

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Why would gaban be hyping up Lokis strength in this scene

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and talking about how Shanks was the one who did it

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if it was not through force

sage temple
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Meaning you can't scale dependant on that assumption

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Can you

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You can't

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One chapter of One Piece please

ruby moat
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akainu and aokiji talked for the first 9 days and then fought the last day after they couldnt come to an agreement

crimson yacht
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The entire context of this scene is Gaban telling Luffy loki is extremely powerful, and a dangerous force to the point where it took UNTIL SHANKS to capture him

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You're removing context

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and focusing on individual lines

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to create a scenario

unique lagoon
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oda wont show how shanks captured loki huh?

crimson yacht
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the whoel scene is to gas up Lokis strength

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why would he be gassing up lokis strength

sage temple
crimson yacht
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if shanks just

unique lagoon
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i fear he wont even show the 8 years of pirate loki

crimson yacht
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gave him a hug and took him home

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it doesnt make any sense

pearl star
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find. the..original..japanese. if it saids shanks まで it implies nothing. about a fight

crimson yacht
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Like bro 😂

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You can use this kind of argument for any off screen debacle

sage temple
ruby moat
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shanks and mihawk never actually fought with swords it was intricate MTG style card games

crimson yacht
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No one genuinely believes in a context where a characters strength is being hype

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d

sage temple
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You can't argue against the facts here lmao

crimson yacht
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that

sage temple
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Loki vs Shanks isn't confirmed

crimson yacht
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However

sage temple
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Okay

crimson yacht
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its incredibly unreasonable to assume

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they didnt fight

sage temple
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So you can't scale off of a vague assumption

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It's incredibly unreasonable to assume

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They did fight

crimson yacht
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Im not usin this to scale Loki or Shanks

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However

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you're genuinely trying to say

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that its likely that shanks just

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brought him home

ruby moat
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Only socrates would call this a "vague assumption" that shanks fought loki

crimson yacht
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withotu any sort of

sage temple
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physical aggression

pearl star
sage temple
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We don't know the specifics

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So basically nothing rn is likely

ruby moat
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i got it from above in chat

crimson yacht
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Like

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if we're being completely deadass

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the average viewer is concluding

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that it was a fight

pearl star
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none of that means fight..maybe it was talk no jutsu

ruby moat
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it's socrates he's just coping to the extreme because he doesnt want shanks to beat loki in a fight and will deny it through and through until its explicitly shown in the manga no matter how hard its suggested

crimson yacht
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  • why would Loki hold any resentment to Shanks if he brought him home with some sort of agreement or some sort of speech 😂
pearl star
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shanks big conqueror hakied him into handcuffs

ruby moat
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and even if its shown he'll likely discredit shanks in however way it happened to try to lessen the blow it does to loki's reputation in his mind

pearl star
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i mean just this chapter loki was convinced to kill his dad

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pearl star
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and does it while saying i will never forgive you for this

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unique lagoon
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maybe this is about loki calling shanks a coward

ruby moat
sage temple
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It depends how exactly Loki got captured that determines if Shanks is stronger than him or not

But since we don't know how, we can't assume

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I'm not trying to make Loki look better on some agenda pushing. I'm speaking the truth

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Loki vs Shanks is not confirmed

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And the fact that it has been established that you can capture someone far stronger than you is exactly why Loki getting captured by Shanks doesn't prove anything strength wise right now

sage temple
rose rune
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and crocodile is stronger than luffy

pearl star
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he is being a philosopher about. very Sócrates from him. we only have implications about that scene

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rose rune
sage temple
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Ok

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the moment you get captured, you get weaker

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it's science

sage temple
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Especially since Loki was evidently able to handle stronger foes than Shanks was 14 YEARS AGO**

pearl star
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Loki shouldnt be anywhere yet

rose rune
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oh true, shanks captured loki, so even if Loki agreed to it he is now weaker than shanks

pearl star
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we havent seen if the fruits power is combat related or something moe shirahoshi

rose rune
sage temple
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But Sanji > Queen

rose rune
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yes

sage temple
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So Sanji > Big Mom?

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rose rune
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no, cause sanji never captured big mom

sage temple
rose rune
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fights don't add to strenght, only capturing does

ruby moat
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also sanji doesnt hit girls

rose rune
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so true bartsky

ruby moat
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this is basic stuff

crimson yacht
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Blackbeard should be top 5 on any list you make of current one piece characters

rose rune
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you'd think socrates would know this

sage temple
sage temple
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How dare you call her a girl

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You'd think Bartsky would know better than this

ruby moat
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kobe!

crimson yacht
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The Mihawk and Blackbeard agenda

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reigns supreme

ruby moat
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the editing is so strange

sage temple
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ohhhhhh

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tell me one thing

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the squirrel was pisseed off

sage temple
shadow knoll
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when loki beat him

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but it got happy when he ate the devil fruit

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why?

rose rune
ruby moat
crimson yacht
shadow knoll
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so

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hes glad

sage temple
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that someone can have it

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LMFAO

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i'm crying bruh

sage temple
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Double standards dawg

celest mauve
# sage temple

flawless logic, honestly why didn't I consider this before

shadow knoll
alpine trench
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socrates your reputation precedes you

sage temple
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What if Socrates wants to be Sillycrates for a few minutes

ruby moat
crimson yacht
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u have to Look at both

alpine trench
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just ignore both contexts

crimson yacht
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his expression represents the words

ruby moat
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do i ignore the E

crimson yacht
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and the words represent his expression

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ye it dont matter

alpine trench
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the E is very important

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dont forget it

ruby moat
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all the E's or just the one at the start

rose rune
alpine trench
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i didnt see sb's reaction to this chapter

sage temple
alpine trench
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LMFAO

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In like july I remember him saying he dumped Loki for Whitebeard

crimson yacht
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loki glaze will die soon

alpine trench
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AHAHAHAHA

crimson yacht
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Loki cant join luffys crew and if he does

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then luffy is superior to him

sage temple
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This guy is a geek

alpine trench
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let me say something to trigger socrates

sage temple
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I don't accept him

sage temple
alpine trench
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loki and hajrudin will rule elbaf together

rose rune
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I sometimes wonder if I should start glazing someone, but I don't think it's in my nature to do it for long

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luffy cant be weaker than any of his crew so if Loki joins its genuinely over

sage temple
alpine trench
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LETS GOOOO

sage temple
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i won

ruby moat
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loki wont join he doesnt fit

rose rune
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oh yeah, I almost forgot you were official only harsh

ruby moat
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and making him small makes him an offbrand chopper

sage temple
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You gotta be ready to die by it

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Or you can be like Sb and glaze a different person every week

rose rune
crimson yacht
alpine trench
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sb glazes a different person every minute

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every zoro related pfp is the dumbest person i've ever seen

ruby moat
rose rune
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Ngl he was spittin here 👀

sage temple
alpine trench
sage temple
# rose rune

Why are you writing in sanskrit what font is that 😭

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It looks so ugly

rose rune
crimson yacht
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Franky will receive a powerup

ruby moat
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I had an idea for some Loki slander based on this chapter but I’m too lazy to make it

crimson yacht
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the slander is alrdy there he needed a squirrel

alpine trench
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sanskrit????

rose rune
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if that makes any sense

alpine trench
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do you think sanskrit looks like that

prisma yacht
celest mauve
crimson yacht
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I BELIEVE ODA IS WASHED

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UNLESS HE BRINGS BACK LAW

ruby moat
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I don’t know what Sanskrit is. I’ll admit it.

sage temple
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Immediately

alpine trench
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????

sage temple
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God forbid I reach into my hyperbole bag

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You should do that too sometime harsh

fallen meteor
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isnt sanskrit the line language

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like it always has a line

sage temple
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Not sure what sanskrit is at all

ruby moat
shadow knoll
sage temple
shadow knoll
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you forget most here are unemployed

ruby moat
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Confirmed

shadow knoll
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and got room temperature iq

sage temple
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Add more question marks if you're confused I can't tell harsh

rose rune
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Is that the Skyrim language

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theres always a line

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i know that from geoguessr

sage temple
celest mauve
rain cedar
sweet kettle
alpine trench
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its still alive in india

ruby moat
alpine trench
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there are several sanskrit universities, our sacred texts are all in sanskrit

ruby moat
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That panel never looked right

crimson yacht
ruby moat
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Sword is like a pool noodle

alpine trench
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that's also the script to hindi, called devanagari

sweet kettle
sweet kettle
quiet ice
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That final spread is godlike

fallen meteor
ruby moat
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I know some bad words in Hindi but that’s about it

sweet kettle
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Zoro never uses conquerors

sage temple
quiet ice
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When your goat still got it

rose rune
crimson yacht
sweet kettle
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He used it one time on accident against kaido

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Keep that in mind

sage temple
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Never -> 1 time?

crimson yacht
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this is conquerors bro

quiet ice
crimson yacht
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and he clearly cut him

alpine trench
sweet kettle
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Thats not conquerors

ruby moat
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Well he should be more powerful going forward simply because he’ll know he has it

sweet kettle
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Was it ever confirmed

crimson yacht
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so this isnt conquerors haki ?

alpine trench
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yes

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it was confirmed to be conqueror's haki

prisma yacht
rose rune
quiet ice
crimson yacht
prisma yacht
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It's so peak

alpine trench
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we get it next week wanze lmfao

sage temple
alpine trench
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we basically got this chapter a week earlier than the official

quiet ice
alpine trench
sweet kettle
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Well like ive said before if its conquerors vs conquerors you probably wont have a cutting effect

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Since its haki clashing

sage temple
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The color-ers popped off this chapter ngl

quiet ice
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20 days of no op

alpine trench
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this coloring is kinda cheeks ngl

vital heart
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It isnt

sage temple
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I genuinely am in love with how people have colored this last page so far

rose rune
vital heart
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Womp womp

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Womp womp

fallen meteor
sage temple
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??????????

sweet kettle
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You could make a case for blades making you stronger with swords like enma that draw out all of your haki and stuff

celest mauve
# prisma yacht

the least that hajrudin's bum-ass can do is believe his brother and help him out

vital heart
#

@alpine trench Did you see my updated top 20 current strongest characters ranking as of today (last update was july 24)

fallen meteor
alpine trench
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i saw it already meek

rose rune
quiet ice
vital heart
sage temple
quiet ice
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Ai

crimson yacht
sage temple
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Oh shoot

celest mauve
alpine trench
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the effects, the upscaled quality

sage temple
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I'm getting old

vital heart
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Half OP manga colorings are trash anyways

They always over do it with the effects lmfao

alpine trench
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it looks so uncanny

sage temple
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I thought that was peak itself

fallen meteor
vital heart
celest mauve
vital heart
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Had to say it!

sage temple
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I thought someone did that

celest mauve
sage temple
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Chat is this ai or no ai

rose rune
vital heart
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@celest mauve

crimson yacht
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bro this list gotta get changed

celest mauve
quiet ice
fallen meteor
alpine trench
rose rune
sage temple
vital heart
vital heart
vital heart
crimson yacht
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bro mihawk below shanks in 2 025 like we cant keep doing this

rose rune
celest mauve
alpine trench
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i like the arabic coloring

rain cedar
fallen meteor
crimson yacht
quiet ice
prisma yacht
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The arabic one is not overdone

sage temple
rain cedar
celest mauve
# vital heart

besides the ragnir inclusion it's not the worst I've seen

crimson yacht
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he got dragon at #2 and he hasnt lifted

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a finger

prisma yacht
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It's very nicee

alpine trench
crimson yacht
fallen meteor
alpine trench
ruby moat
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GUYS.
North. East. West. South.
N.E.W.S
NEWS.

sage temple
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This spread was sick though

quiet ice
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We need also also manga

sage temple
vital heart
rose rune
rain cedar
fallen meteor
rain cedar
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Right now, there isn't really anything

quiet ice
crimson yacht
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bro mihawk shouldve been ur top 3

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since u read

#

baratie

vital heart
rain cedar
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What are we talking about

alpine trench
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oh cool cool

rain cedar
#

Mihawk in top 3 🥀

crimson yacht
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one piece fans had imu at #1 before he even showcased a single one of his abilities

quiet ice
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Bro what is this feat and powerscaling

crimson yacht
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they be hinging on narrrative until mihawk shows up

sage temple
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Loki is top 5

crimson yacht
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then its about feats

quiet ice
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I’ve been gone too long lol

vital heart
sage temple
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Also where are the Gorosei Meek?

alpine trench
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took a look at the camera raws and the fucking art looks so clean

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doesnt reflect in TCB at all

crimson yacht
sage temple
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?

vital heart
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???

crimson yacht
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bro Loki is not top 5 we have to stop

vital heart
#

Warcury

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And Mars

vital heart
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and venus are all there

shadow knoll
rain cedar
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Mihawk still doesn't

crimson yacht
vital heart
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@sage temple

sage temple
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...

rose rune
sage temple
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WHY IS RAGNIR ABOVE WARCURY 😭

crimson yacht
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bro

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blackbeard

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is too low

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blackbeardis top 5

quiet ice
alpine trench
ruby moat
crimson yacht
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luffy is not top 5 bro

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he is like #10

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swap luffy with blackbeard

rain cedar
vital heart
ruby moat
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idk if i trust TCB scans after not seeing jupeter there

crimson yacht
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its only random

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cause

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you discredit the character

fallen meteor
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damn i didnt know jupeter had shooters

sage temple
crimson yacht
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mihawk will always be the top of the top because thats his role in the story

crimson yacht
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its whats

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required

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for zoro

vital heart
shadow knoll
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wait he put dragon on 2nd?!!!!?!?!?!?!?

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wtf

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in big 2026

rain cedar
ruby moat
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true he should be #1

rose rune
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believe in the worm

rain cedar
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He's Yonko level, but I still wouldn't rank him above shanks

sage temple
crimson yacht
ruby moat
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more than anything mars did right there

crimson yacht
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Zoros dream is uatomatically invalid the moment u try to put mihawk over a swordsman in the modern day

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its like sayin sanji wont find the al lblue

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ur basically tellin me oda is gonna throw away zoros dream

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for agenda

alpine trench
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i love how this fandom counts feats

sage temple
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And since Loki was stronger than Shanks 14 years ago, I think it's safe to put Loki above Luffy here

alpine trench
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its so dumb

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pretty entertaining

ruby moat
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jupeter on top 🗣️

rose rune
vital heart
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FINE. It's time.

quiet ice
# vital heart How

Garling over BB lol. You gotta think of it from outside of the manga. The people at the end will for sure be stronger because things scale linearly. BB is surely one of the last foes, therefore is one of the strongest

crimson yacht
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lets stop it bro

ruby moat
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I've convinced him.

rain cedar
crimson yacht
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aye if u have shanks like that

rain cedar
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But

rose rune
crimson yacht
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Doesnt even make sense

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its an oxymoron

rain cedar
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I never said he's below

alpine trench
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wanze dont fall into the trap UsoppGrief

ruby moat
crimson yacht
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if u have them equal sure

rain cedar
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But I'm not saying he's above either

crimson yacht
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but thts more valid than having mihawk below shanks

fallen meteor
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mihawk is shanks' ragnir

rose rune
sturdy steeple
ruby moat
quiet ice
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It’s simple man

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They think this is a game

crimson yacht
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blackbeard currently top 5

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brutally scarred shanks 14 yrs ago with no devil fruit

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mr acoc child of destiny shanks

alpine trench
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garp did so many crazy things lately in the story

crimson yacht
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got beat by some dude with claws

vital heart
#
  1. Imu
  2. Dragon
  3. Shanks
  4. Mihawk
  5. Luffy
  6. Loki
  7. Akainu
  8. Blackbeard
  9. Garling
  10. Shamrock
  11. Warcury
  12. Venusjuro
  13. Mars
  14. Garp
  15. Aokiji
  16. Kizaru
  17. Fujitora
  18. Rayleigh
  19. Gaban
  20. Greenbull

-- SOURCE: ME / Meek's New Top 20 Strongest OP Characters --

Last Updated: 12/28/25

New Changes: Greenbull added after Ragnir was kicked (does not count as a character, otherwise I would have to add Shirahoshi, Emeth, and or Zunesha). Moved some Gorosei up. Moved Blackbeard up one spot.

rose rune
vital heart
quiet ice
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Perhaps…

alpine trench
#

i dont agree with most of the placements

rain cedar
# rose rune

15 gallons of water evaporated for this ☹️

vital heart
prisma yacht
vital heart
ruby moat
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🪱

rose rune
sage temple
crimson yacht
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n its p good

quiet ice
vital heart
sage temple
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Honestly

alpine trench
#

dragon above shanks, garling above most of the gorosei

vital heart
rain cedar
crimson yacht
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blackbeard doesnt need 3 dfs to beat luffy

rose rune
crimson yacht
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he can alrdy disable his only fruit

ruby moat
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rip to those 15 gallons of artists

vital heart
alpine trench
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we dont need more prompt engineers dawg

vital heart
sage temple
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You don't need a counter to G5

crimson yacht
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Lokis hole lgithning gimmick is useless to luffy

rain cedar
crimson yacht
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half this dudes arsenal is gone

crimson yacht
sage temple
crimson yacht
#

but no one has blackbeard #5

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cause u guys hate hi

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m

sage temple
vital heart
crimson yacht
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blackbeard scarred this dude

sage temple
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Scar does not = stronger

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Lmfao

crimson yacht
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with no fruit

sage temple
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Okay?

crimson yacht
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so

ruby moat
quiet ice
crimson yacht
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Shanks gets brutally injured

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by blackbeard

sage temple
crimson yacht
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blackbeard

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is untouched

quiet ice
sage temple
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Can you stop spamming messages

rose rune
#

here it rains all the time

alpine trench
rain cedar
rose rune
crimson yacht
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to hype up blackbeards strength

sage temple
rain cedar
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Alr it was a good guess

crimson yacht
#

Shanks was literally hyping up how dangerous Blackbeard was by mentioning the fact he got scarred by him

alpine trench
#

what is there to explain

crimson yacht
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a fruitless blackbeard btw

vital heart
crimson yacht
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this is like zoro scarring kaido with no swords

sage temple
shadow knoll
crimson yacht
sage temple
crimson yacht
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it was a fruitless blackbeard bro

sage temple
#

Being fruitless doesn't matter

fallen meteor
sage temple
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Lmao

crimson yacht
rose rune
quiet ice
crimson yacht
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its actually equivalent to saying

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zoro scarred kaido

rain cedar
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My goat is kinda fruitless

crimson yacht
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with no swords

sage temple
shadow knoll
sage temple
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What are you on about

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Lmao

rain cedar
#

How

crimson yacht
sage temple
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Blackbeard has never been stronger than Shanks

sturdy steeple
#

Shanks does say that he wasn’t being careless in that moment so he did acknowledge his strength.

crimson yacht
#

Blackbeard the moment he got a fruit

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was above

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shanks

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14 years ago

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and somehow you are trying to claim shanks 14 yrs ago is above current luffy

rose rune
sage temple
rain cedar
crimson yacht
#

is what i am saying

sage temple
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You're acting like Shanks was a couch potato between getting scarred by BB and BB eating his fruit

crimson yacht
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But no one would genuinely claim yami blackbeard is above gear 5 luffy

rose rune
vital heart
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You know whats crazy

crimson yacht
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I said blackbeard with 1 fruit is above 14 year ago shanks

sage temple
#

This makes no sense

crimson yacht
#

it makes perfect sense ?

sage temple
#

And this is not the argument I'm making with Loki and Shanks

crimson yacht
#

ur trying to claim 14 years ago shanks

sage temple
crimson yacht
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is voer luffy

rain cedar
# rose rune actually is

because i remember years ago when I had geography that they taught mountains block wind carrying moisture. It's been etched into my brain since

fallen meteor
#

gang what are we doing
'blackbeard with one fruit vs shanks 14 years ago' what the hell

crimson yacht
#

which is ridiculous

sage temple
#

Plenty of people are stronger than Shanks 14 years ago

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Lmao

vital heart
#

Ever since Loki got introduced, I have never seen a single Akainu vs WB discussion. They all went extinct. Now we have Loki Shanks discussions lmfao.....

@rose rune @sage temple

crimson yacht
#

You just said Shanks 14 years ago should be > luffy

flint quiver
crimson yacht
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which makes no sense

fallen meteor
#

prime garp that drank milk (hes intolerant) vs prime roger that is awake for 4 days straight

rose rune
crimson yacht
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because a fruitless blackbeard could scar him so blackbeard with one of the strongest fruits should beat him

quiet ice
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Could Zoro slash so powerfully that even he could not block it?

crimson yacht
#

but no one has

vital heart
crimson yacht
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yami blackbeard > 14 year ago shanks > luffy

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who has it like this

rose rune
crimson yacht
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this doesnt make any sense

sage temple
#

Sorry

rain cedar
#

If BB is so strong, then why hasn't he jumped Shanks yet

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Hmm?

crimson yacht
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Loki is above 14 yrs ago shanks

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i thought it was pretty obvious

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but 14 yrs ago shanks is not above any yonko

sage temple
quiet ice
#

Glass canon

crimson yacht
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in fact shanks 14 years ago isnt stronger than yami blackbeard

vital heart
#

Who you got in a fight

#

Mihawk vs Loki

#

?

crimson yacht
#

mihawk wins if we're bein deadass

rain cedar
sage temple
rose rune
quiet ice
#

Loki

sage temple
crimson yacht
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We've genuinely reached a point where people have Loki > Mihawk

vital heart
#

Wait

crimson yacht
#

This community is fried

#

Yoru is canonically stronger than Ragnir btw

flint quiver
vital heart
#

If Loki joins Luffy as a SHP, would the SHP be the strongest crew out there?

Discussion below 👇

quiet ice
#

Mihawk is a subordinate of buggy lol Loki would not submit to Luffy

rain cedar
quiet ice
#

All I’m saying

flint quiver
#

I'm a huge mihawk hater but mihawk definitely beats loki 😭

crimson yacht
#

like

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they would have a super powerful

#

lineup

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but then the rest of them

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arent that comp

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its like not balanced is what im saying

sage temple
#

@weak crypt

rose rune
vital heart
#

Imo shanks

crimson yacht
#

bro however u slice it

quiet ice
#

Shanks

crimson yacht
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mihawk should be at the top

sage temple
crimson yacht
#

whether or not u have loki over shanks

sage temple
#

But thats a different convo

crimson yacht
#

or shakns over loki

sage temple
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Honestly