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Yup
all I can say for certain is that 1200 will have a good luffy moment :)
1000 had red roc
Yeah that was the tits
1100 had kid luffy in kuma's flashback using the signature axe move against arlong
One piece at 1200
just nice luffy moments
Luffy goes back in time
i can see 1200 being luffy just having a nice conversation with loki or something.
nope thats 1101
1100 didnt have anything particularily significant
yeah
i reread
1100 just has a nice montage of the entire OP world in the past ending with luffy
My face hurts from smiling
yall liked the chapter?
Toad does not miss
Tru imagine hating on WARP
i like his arts
goatgashi never misses
since we don't get that many original memes
Nah he’s the goat trust
Hes the toad
of the gashi 
i found this so funny
This guy only feat is killing slaves man…
man, i still hate how Oda gassed up the god knights so much with the silhouettes and stuff
but they are getting bullied every time they do something major
Yeah I’m also pretty disappointed as well tbh
this is his magnum opus
watching horse racing rn and
Umm what?
he changed it in like 2 days
Bruh
"cares" so much about his son that he didn't even go himself and then gave up after like 3 years
If he wasn't already a crap father, this sealed it
garling is rat mom level
Nah I’ll say leech level is more accurate
Oh I didn't, I just added to his list of sins
at least he might care for shamrock
Current Ragnir and Loki might be Awakened
that's probably the least sinful thing he has done ngl
which is wild in it's own terms
What does an awakened squirrel do
Not sure if this crack theory is common but, anyone potentially think Luffy’s insane emotional intelligence is an observation Haki thing that Joyboy also has?
imagine the sauirrel actually looked like that
Oda's definitely thought abt it and ik dat
ngl I don't like this idea at all
Produce more lightning probably
This is no normal squirrel my friend
Unless you're trying to say the lightning comes from Loki 
If the lightning comes from Loki then Loki is immune to seastone
Confirmed in WCI

What do squirrels have to do with lightning? The lightning effect is probably from his zoan not the hammer
2025 did turn out to be a good year for Dragon and Shiki
if you have low standards sure
Dragon saved Iva Ginny and Kuma, went against orders and rebelled against the marines, and was the unexpected hero of Shanks
Ussop was probably at one of his lowest standings this year
Usopp outperformed Jinbabe
I guess beggars cant be chosers
They both lost to Gunko but Usopp at least did what looked like way more damage
it WILL BE his arc
I anticipate Usopp encouraging the giants to take back their pride. You can love peace without throwing away your history

Yes usopp's gonna inspire them all
Usopp didn't get Lokis story time though he doesn't know about Harald or his endeavor to change giant society
Though I feel like this is definitely something the crews historian Robin should more or less know. Probably not Harold's deal with the govt. But definitely the push for Elbaf to be more of a peace-loving nation
the theory that the OP world used to be like ours (filled with technology) and after the war, they downgraded their tech is pretty prevelant
it's a popular theory in the real world, maybe one day earth will get destroyed too and our descendants will go back to old methods of living
It would be funny if absolutely nothing happens to Ussop this arc and he just exists as a stagnant character
Lmao
It's starting to seem like it too
well im coping regardless
Yeah I know
but you can't tell this is the most suitable arc and setup for him to shine
Oda has all the pieces in his hands, he can do it if he wants to
He can do that in any arc if he wants to
there's a lot of material to back it up as well
Sure Ussop getting an upgrade is possible
But realistically Ussop's upgrade likely isn't going to make this arc his
If anything it looks like a Loki arc
Loki has had the more focus than pretty much anyone else in an arc excluding the Strawhats so far
Dude got introduced like 4 chapters into the arc and Toei is already animating him
What a goated character
Anyways good luck Ussop fans
i mean ofcourse its gonna be like that, otherwise how will oda write a plot where they can even fight Imu
so you gorra have a character like him
True Loki has been established as anyone's "best bet" at countering Imu
So cute
when world building and power scaling becomes this vast, some important characters are bound be called as frauds
Nom nom nom
it's inevitable
maybe wit piece won't offscreen all the fights that Oda off-screened and it will do justice
Black Blade > All
that squirrel would neg diff mihawk
Nah
Well, the poll may be correct, but black blade is not definitively best
the squirrel sneezing is enough to obliterate mihawk outta existence 
Could Ragnir win in a fight against Yoru without Mihawk? Of course it can
For that matter Namis pole is also stronger than most weapons
Mihawk is literally carried by his sword
Yoru is stronger than Mihawk himself but yall aren't ready for that quite yet

This spread is one of the greater ones we've seen this year
isnt the point of it being 1:1 with the manga with zero filler
hey guys
@tranquil blade yo!
@tranquil blade i have a question: should I redo the top 20 ?
Top 1 Harald
Sure yeah
To my friend King Harald, rest now brother. We have the watch now, I’ll see you in Valhalla
I’d put ragnir and shamrock lower tbh
Wait does Elbaph have a Valhalla equivalent
i would agree with you on shamrock but recently ive been convinced that he's closer in strength to shanks than we currently think, even closer than garling, lmao.
for ragnir sure - i might take ragnir off cuz idk if ragnir counts as a "character", otherwise, I should technically put zunesha and emeth on that too, and i dont.
Still might be time for u to delete this
Or is it fictional like Sovngarde
Heaven realm
That’s not the afterlife dumbass
TF is valhalla then
That’s a place in the mortal realm
Valhalla is Heaven u idiot
If we’re talking characters at their old age then how is gaban and Rayleigh over fujitora
Why is luffy above akainu bb
Shanks > Mihawk is insane
Rest is fine
actually garp under ragnir is also wild
Fujitora isnt that strong...
he is above old gaban and old Rayleigh
Gear 5
I'm not talkign about primes
This is current strength
Like if you made them fight in the modern story rn
in manga they showed elbaph has different villages so there r more giants? and who r the elder giants who opposed harald
but there is actually nothing old gaban can do to fujitora arsenal
current gaban > fuji im ngl
timer that ran out while he was fighting kizaru bro
Blackbeard should be top 5
gaban can beat holy knights, i dont think fujitora can
yeah characters with conquerors will naturally be higher than characters without it, on average
Yeah so why are you talking about zoro and kizaru 😭
I'm talking about fuji and gaban
The gaban today has shown to be able to easily beat holy knights like sommers and only a few years ago was able to slice harald. so far we have no indication on if fuji can do anything on that same level considering we've only seen him fight bums like sabo law and doflamingo and wash all of them
because conquerors is not an end all be all
Nor does it matter who can kill a knight
Sommers is featless and got bullied by a gaban who’s relative to Rayleigh
Same Rayleigh who couldn’t stall an admiral for more than a few minutes
Gaban and Rayleigh can effortlessly dismantle a HK but they can’t to an admiral
a CoC blade should be more deadly than a CoC punch
cuz you know cut of limbs and shit
but oda pref them to be almost on par
now he added HKs which has regen and also for some reason more brittle bodies
you have to realize that if you have conquerors coating the blade wouldnt even reach your opponent anyway
But it cuts them all the time
Loki should be above Luffy and possibly above Mihawk imo
We don't know if Shanks and Loki fought so theres no reason to base Loki's placement off of that vague assumption
Wasnt it shanks who ltierally beat loki
its the cutting capability thats the main part
i mean look at zoro
cut off kings wing
could have been an arm or a leg if oda wanted to
I agree with everything else except
- Imu
- Dragon
- Loki
- Gorosei
- Shanks
- Mihawk
- Luffy
- Akainu
- Blackbeard
- Shamrock
Shanks and Loki fighting is headcanon as of now
i need to check again but i think herald cut off some arm in this chapter
Shanks and Loki fighting isn't confirmed at all
How would of shanks brought loki back to elbaf if it wasnt a fight
the whole idea that he got trick
Blackbeard super low, mihawk below shanks, luffy should be #10
its been theorized since the reveal
Queen captured Big Mom
why would Loki agree to be captured
Assuming we were given no context on that
Again, headcanon. Shanks has expressed how he doesn't play by the rules
Exactly
guys an actor
Shanks fronting with barto was to test his loyalty
what im saying is its not an unlikely idea
He didnt even give him actual poison
he is a pirate after all
Nobody is saying it will be a 1:1 interaction
It's just pretty obvious that there are ways Loki could've been captured by Shanks that doesn't spell out a fight
Bb that low?
i pref thinking about why he captured loki and sent him back to elbaf
You could argue this for any off screen fight
Point is
someone wouldve mentioned by now
if Shanks fucked around and used some
i think this mf shanks actually planned the meeting of the 2 DF users
I dunno where to put Blackbeard since he can't use ACoC so far and he seemed to be struggling a bit against Law
at all
This is assuming anyone witnessed that fight
So no
Struggling aint the word dawg, bb literally scarred the strong version of him back then
Nobody would've definitively mentioned that
Gabans statement claiming no one could stop Loki except Shanks
heavily implies a fight
in faact he refers to shanks individually
and not the Red Haired Pirates
or an exterior force
Nobody could stop Loki UNTIL Shanks
Not except
so this was not a kaido 8v1 situation
why not both
it was a fight and also a trick at the same time
???
You get the point
You can say "nobody was able to stop Kaido until Luffy"
That was an 8v1
Loki was locked up by Red-Haired Shanks
Gaban's full statement was nobody could stop Loki until Shanks
If this commenting on the kaido circumstance
Loki was captured by Red Hair Shanks
Do we know if Gaban witnessed it?
And saying "Loki was locked up by Shanks" doesn't mean a fight at all
Queen chained up Big Mom
this is happening
If Queen chained up Big Mom does that mean he fought BM?
You can't say for sure what Loki did that allowed himself or got himself captured
You're acting like Loki's situation is an antithesis to BM and Queen
This statement by Gaban is clearly not showing any implication of Shanks
mickey moused his way
into capturing Loki
its not the intention of the author or the tone of the scene
"The one who killed Kaido was none other than Strawhat Luffy"
This doesn't mean it was a 1v1
to know that you have to find the original japanese
Yet this was a team effort
and even then japanese is brutally contextual
Many went against Kaido
Its not the same statement or the same context tho ?
You're acting like it's impossible for a fight to not happen
When that's just not true
No ones saying its impossible
I'm giving you examples of alternative scenarios
However its very clear its not through
Yes you are
It's not clear at all
We don't know the specifics
Any off screen fight i could give a mickey mouse explanation on how it wasn't actually a fight
The gorosei? All 5? You think ju peter > Shanks?the rest is fine idc
Point is you have to look at context and author intention
Why would gaban be hyping up Lokis strength in this scene
and talking about how Shanks was the one who did it
if it was not through force
Okay so it isn't confirmed that Loki and Shanks fought
Meaning you can't scale dependant on that assumption
Can you
You can't
One chapter of One Piece please
akainu and aokiji talked for the first 9 days and then fought the last day after they couldnt come to an agreement
The entire context of this scene is Gaban telling Luffy loki is extremely powerful, and a dangerous force to the point where it took UNTIL SHANKS to capture him
You're removing context
and focusing on individual lines
to create a scenario
oda wont show how shanks captured loki huh?
the whoel scene is to gas up Lokis strength
why would he be gassing up lokis strength
I just think this because Loki is the only one that could kill a regen user so far
if shanks just
i fear he wont even show the 8 years of pirate loki
Lol
find. the..original..japanese. if it saids shanks まで it implies nothing. about a fight
Me saying "Loki vs Shanks isn't confirmed" is a factual statement
shanks and mihawk never actually fought with swords it was intricate MTG style card games
No one genuinely believes in a context where a characters strength is being hype
d
You can't argue against the facts here lmao
that
Loki vs Shanks isn't confirmed
It is a factual statement
However
Okay
So you can't scale off of a vague assumption
It's incredibly unreasonable to assume
They did fight
Im not usin this to scale Loki or Shanks
However
you're genuinely trying to say
that its likely that shanks just
brought him home
Only socrates would call this a "vague assumption" that shanks fought loki
withotu any sort of
I'm not saying they did or didn't fight
physical aggression
tell me the chapter and the page
I'm not saying anything is likely right now
We don't know the specifics
So basically nothing rn is likely
Like the ENTIRE SCENE is the fact that Loki is so powerful to where Gaban is explaining that Luffy has to be ready to face a force like him, and to HYPE HIM UP he mentions how it took until SHANKS to capture him
Like
if we're being completely deadass
the average viewer is concluding
that it was a fight
none of that means fight..maybe it was talk no jutsu
it's socrates he's just coping to the extreme because he doesnt want shanks to beat loki in a fight and will deny it through and through until its explicitly shown in the manga no matter how hard its suggested
- why would Loki hold any resentment to Shanks if he brought him home with some sort of agreement or some sort of speech 😂
shanks big conqueror hakied him into handcuffs
and even if its shown he'll likely discredit shanks in however way it happened to try to lessen the blow it does to loki's reputation in his mind
i mean just this chapter loki was convinced to kill his dad
Queen captured Big Mom
This was not a fight
I AM NOT SAYING THE LOKI/SHANKS ENCOUNTER PLAYED OUT LIKE QUEEN CAPTURING BIG MOM
I am saying, capturing someone doesn't prove you're stronger than them at all, capturing someone doesn't even prove a fight. And this is a very prime example of this fact
and does it while saying i will never forgive you for this
Like yes its technically true that its not outright 100% confirmed stated that Loki and Shanks had a duel but how can one read Gabans monologue about Loki and not conclude it waas most likely a fight
maybe this is about loki calling shanks a coward
the only way you come to the conclusion that shanks and loki didnt fight is when you're looking for ways to make loki look better
It depends how exactly Loki got captured that determines if Shanks is stronger than him or not
But since we don't know how, we can't assume
I'm not trying to make Loki look better on some agenda pushing. I'm speaking the truth
Loki vs Shanks is not confirmed
And the fact that it has been established that you can capture someone far stronger than you is exactly why Loki getting captured by Shanks doesn't prove anything strength wise right now
Ceasar is stronger than Luffy
Queen is stronger than Big Mom?
and crocodile is stronger than luffy
he is being a philosopher about. very Sócrates from him. we only have implications about that scene
Regardless of your take about shanks and Loki he’s just not number 3 currently
yes, because he captured her
Loki being above or below Shanks is very inconclusive right now
Especially since Loki was evidently able to handle stronger foes than Shanks was 14 YEARS AGO**
Loki shouldnt be anywhere yet
oh true, shanks captured loki, so even if Loki agreed to it he is now weaker than shanks
So Queen > Big Mom?
we havent seen if the fruits power is combat related or something moe shirahoshi
obviously
But Sanji > Queen
yes
So Sanji > Big Mom?
If its inconclusive then how do you have Loki over shanks in the list
no, cause sanji never captured big mom
But Sanji beat Queen, who is stronger than Big Mom
yes
fights don't add to strenght, only capturing does
also sanji doesnt hit girls
so true bartsky
this is basic stuff
Blackbeard should be top 5 on any list you make of current one piece characters
you'd think socrates would know this
Big Mom is a woman
How dare you call her a girl
You'd think Bartsky would know better than this
kobe!

what am i even seeing here
the editing is so strange
Looks like a large tootsie roll
guy pretending like he doesnt know whats happening behind him
what
ohhhhhh
we were just having fun, don't think to hard about it
bc it made him happy
idk prob cause lokis worthy of it
you need to understand sarcasm mate
Why would it be happy Loki beat him
that someone can have it
How come when Thigh says it it's sarcasm but when I say it it's not
Double standards dawg
flawless logic, honestly why didn't I consider this before
cuz you get pressed abt that
socrates your reputation precedes you
God forbid I joke around
What if Socrates wants to be Sillycrates for a few minutes
when someone sends this gif am i supposed to be ignoring the words and focusing on the dude's expression bc every time i focus on the words and it doesnt rly make sense in the context its sent
u have to Look at both
just ignore both contexts
his expression represents the words
do i ignore the E
all the E's or just the one at the start
I think the difference lies in how obvious I am when I'm doing it, while you state obvious facts
Depends
i didnt see sb's reaction to this chapter
Sb saw the Loki glaze in the spoilers and instantly became pro Loki
LMFAO
In like july I remember him saying he dumped Loki for Whitebeard
loki glaze will die soon
AHAHAHAHA
This guy is a geek
let me say something to trigger socrates
I don't accept him
Say Ussop will wield Ragnir
loki and hajrudin will rule elbaf together
I sometimes wonder if I should start glazing someone, but I don't think it's in my nature to do it for long
luffy cant be weaker than any of his crew so if Loki joins its genuinely over
How did you go even worse
LETS GOOOO

i won
loki wont join he doesnt fit
oh yeah, I almost forgot you were official only harsh
and making him small makes him an offbrand chopper
This glazing shit is serious
You gotta be ready to die by it
Or you can be like Sb and glaze a different person every week
which is why I think it's a bad match with me
sb glazes a different person every minute
every zoro related pfp is the dumbest person i've ever seen
that pfp + username combo is chef's kiss
Sb 3 weeks ago would have an hour long argument with current Sb
thanks. I might have used a braincell when I made it
Franky will receive a powerup
I had an idea for some Loki slander based on this chapter but I’m too lazy to make it
?????
the slander is alrdy there he needed a squirrel
sanskrit????
I was too lazy to pull up the text tool, so I wrote it by hand
if that makes any sense
do you think sanskrit looks like that
how is that sanskrit

brother do you know what sanskrit is
I don’t know what Sanskrit is. I’ll admit it.
Immediately
????
Not sure what sanskrit is at all
That’s basically confined unless u mean bring him back in a significant way
oh im fine with it but some are really dense
Are you confused yet
you forget most here are unemployed
Confirmed
and got room temperature iq
Add more question marks if you're confused I can't tell harsh
he will come back to Kill Blackbeard
Is that the Skyrim language
it's an ancient and sacred language that originated in "ancient india"
usopp gives his pop greens to ratotskr
The squirrel likes it
New usopp power up
Roger shouldve cut garp in half if thats the case then
its still alive in india
Badass
This doesn’t make sense.
there are several sanskrit universities, our sacred texts are all in sanskrit
That panel never looked right
zoro cuts all the timme tho
Sword is like a pool noodle
that's also the script to hindi, called devanagari
I agree
Lol
That final spread is godlike
whats the roots of the name? because it looks a lot like 'saint script' or something similar
I know some bad words in Hindi but that’s about it
Zoro never uses conquerors
You would look really silly if the font Thigh used was called "sanskrit sans" or something right now
When your goat still got it
I brainfarted really hard for a moment there thinking "oh I wish we had ancient texts"
then I remembered runes
Here it comes bro
Never -> 1 time?
and he clearly cut him
the scans are so fucking cooked though
Thats not conquerors
Well he should be more powerful going forward simply because he’ll know he has it
Was it ever confirmed
so this isnt conquerors haki ?
those are ropes holding him back mentally
It’s aight tomorrow we get the goods
haki knots on his blades
It's so peak
we get it next week wanze lmfao
Ngl true I've never seen as many zoro arguments here
we basically got this chapter a week earlier than the official

Well like ive said before if its conquerors vs conquerors you probably wont have a cutting effect
Since its haki clashing
The color-ers popped off this chapter ngl
20 days of no op
this coloring is kinda cheeks ngl
I genuinely am in love with how people have colored this last page so far
ouuuf
such an epic panel
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You could make a case for blades making you stronger with swords like enma that draw out all of your haki and stuff
the least that hajrudin's bum-ass can do is believe his brother and help him out
@alpine trench Did you see my updated top 20 current strongest characters ranking as of today (last update was july 24)
his head mouth...
i saw it already meek
I agree with harsh
I didn’t wanna say it…
thoughts
Uh
Ai
ts ai generated
Oh shoot
what's your list, I'm curious
the effects, the upscaled quality
I'm getting old
Half OP manga colorings are trash anyways
They always over do it with the effects lmfao
it looks so uncanny
my list 
Genuinely too many popular artists on OP twitter that suck at art.
wrong reply, meant for @vital heart
Had to say it!
I thought someone did that
discord sucks
Oh he's gonna do more 
bro this list gotta get changed
thanks
Yes
my list:
- Cloud Logia
- Eris grafted on Blackbeard's back
its bad
lol! the lava
Move Loki up above Luffy at the very least ngl
I only can update it once every 5-6 months, so wait for a bit lmao.
I only can update it once every 5-6 months, so wait for a bit lmao.
I only can update it once every 5-6 months, so wait for a bit lmao.
bro mihawk below shanks in 2 025 like we cant keep doing this
it's AI btw
man that second one is nasty
i like the arabic coloring
2025 and still no feats btw
solves everything btw
who cares bruh
It’s nice yeah. Matches the colored manga
The arabic one is not overdone
Im sure you can make some quick edits
The STORY
besides the ragnir inclusion it's not the worst I've seen
It's very nicee
it doesnt require him to get feats yet
how he has two dfs, how nobody else in universe has two dfs, how he knows what his father's plan was, how he doesnt sleep...etc
@quiet ice what do you think of this
GUYS.
North. East. West. South.
N.E.W.S
NEWS.
This spread was sick though
We need also also manga
yeah i was considering taking off ragnir entirely, otherwise i'd have to include characters like zunesha/emeth/shirahoshi which are controversial for their own reasons. technically isnt a real "character"
I miss the harald eye mouth now
I'll rank him above when he finally moves his ass
oh this one is nice i like how you can see the original lines
Right now, there isn't really anything
It got posted already and yeah i liked it
this one is actually good lol
What are we talking about
oh cool cool
Mihawk in top 3 🥀
one piece fans had imu at #1 before he even showcased a single one of his abilities
Bro what is this feat and powerscaling
they be hinging on narrrative until mihawk shows up
Loki is top 5
then its about feats
I’ve been gone too long lol
You callin me cool?
Also where are the Gorosei Meek?
took a look at the camera raws and the fucking art looks so clean
doesnt reflect in TCB at all
❌
Why include Garling but ignore Warcury and the rest of the Gorosei
?
???
bro Loki is not top 5 we have to stop
Imu does have feats now
and venus are all there
yeah, it's meek. idon't trust him
Mihawk still doesn't
NOW he does bro hes been at #1 at every powerscale list since 2020
@sage temple
...
yeah, TCB did kind of a shit clean up this week
WHY IS RAGNIR ABOVE WARCURY 😭
This kinda cheeks, meek
i'm more active than you and this is dogshit powerscaling even to me
not including jupeter is ridiculous and tbh it kinda discredits you as a person in general
Yeah but now you can Genuinely argue imu is top 1. Mihawk fans have been milking random panels and databooks
Ju peter barely makes my top 30 actually, if i were to extend it even further
random panels like
idk if i trust TCB scans after not seeing jupeter there
damn i didnt know jupeter had shooters
I was going to sob react to this.. but it keeps getting removed. I wonder why
mihawk will always be the top of the top because thats his role in the story
How
Im not a mihawk hater by any means but the glaze is a fucking wild especially with no actually showcase yet
true he should be #1
the worm is stronger than the yokai
believe in the worm
He's Yonko level, but I still wouldn't rank him above shanks
Zoro and Mihawk planned this
ion care for the glaze i jus think Mihawk has to be atleast above Shanks for someone to recognize that zoros dream has validity
Zoros dream is uatomatically invalid the moment u try to put mihawk over a swordsman in the modern day
its like sayin sanji wont find the al lblue
ur basically tellin me oda is gonna throw away zoros dream
for agenda
i love how this fandom counts feats
And since Loki was stronger than Shanks 14 years ago, I think it's safe to put Loki above Luffy here
jupeter on top 🗣️
facts
FINE. It's time.
Garling over BB lol. You gotta think of it from outside of the manga. The people at the end will for sure be stronger because things scale linearly. BB is surely one of the last foes, therefore is one of the strongest
shanks 14 years ago got belted by a fruitless blackbeard
lets stop it bro
I've convinced him.
Son, what are you talking about. He's still the strongest swordsman
aye if u have shanks like that
But
the pure destructive power of the thing that is only muscle and teeth
Hes the strongest swordsman but below shanks ?
Doesnt even make sense
its an oxymoron
I think the narrative has Shanks and Mihawk on equal terms
I never said he's below
wanze dont fall into the trap 
i dissected one of them in highschool biology class it was crazy
if u have them equal sure
But I'm not saying he's above either
but thts more valid than having mihawk below shanks
mihawk is shanks' ragnir
that was the moment you realized that Jupeter is the strongest gorosei
Choosing the dark side for the love of the game.
i saw its power for myself
It’s not a trap for me. They spent years dogging Garp cause he was introduced early and didn’t do “anything”, only for him to be one of the strongest alive
It’s simple man
They think this is a game
blackbeard currently top 5
brutally scarred shanks 14 yrs ago with no devil fruit
mr acoc child of destiny shanks
garp did so many crazy things lately in the story
got beat by some dude with claws
- Imu
- Dragon
- Shanks
- Mihawk
- Luffy
- Loki
- Akainu
- Blackbeard
- Garling
- Shamrock
- Warcury
- Venusjuro
- Mars
- Garp
- Aokiji
- Kizaru
- Fujitora
- Rayleigh
- Gaban
- Greenbull
-- SOURCE: ME / Meek's New Top 20 Strongest OP Characters --
Last Updated: 12/28/25
New Changes: Greenbull added after Ragnir was kicked (does not count as a character, otherwise I would have to add Shirahoshi, Emeth, and or Zunesha). Moved some Gorosei up. Moved Blackbeard up one spot.
@sage temple @celest mauve @alpine trench @quiet ice Happy now?
Perhaps…
i dont agree with most of the placements
Like give me 1 example
hey you uhh.. you missed one
https://x.com/i/status/2004944934399606815
This is so good
who
🪱
do they send the water to space?
Put Loki above Luffy and I'll be happy
greenbull should be equal to fujitora and blackbeard should replace luffy here
n its p good
Artist as well lol
Hell no
Honestly
dragon above shanks, garling above most of the gorosei
Hell no to blackbeard. He needs his 3rd DF first
LMFAO
blackbeard doesnt need 3 dfs to beat luffy
we have too many artists anyways
he can alrdy disable his only fruit
Not good. Try again.
rip to those 15 gallons of artists
Greenbull one is actually not that bad of an idea. I just wanna see him beat/fight marco first. The weevil feat is also p good ngl. You may be cooking
we dont need more prompt engineers dawg
Above no. Loki has no counter to g5
Loki was stronger than Shanks 14 years ago
You don't need a counter to G5
Lokis hole lgithning gimmick is useless to luffy
See, the issue is that the water doesn't go into space but that's real usable water which will now take time to condense and come back to earth
half this dudes arsenal is gone
bro so was blackbeard
Using that logic Shanks has no counter do G5
No?
Hell no
blackbeard scarred this dude
with no fruit
Okay?
u already said that
They are eating themselves alive
Zoro scarred Kaido with no fruit
Can you stop spamming messages
true, it might be an issue in other countries
here it rains all the time
bro i just saw this, was about to send it to you 
Do you live in the UK perhaps
no
BB didnt just scar Shanks Lol he had this dude worried over a decade later to the poitn where Shanks had to tell whitebeard
to hype up blackbeards strength
This just doesn't matter
Alr it was a good guess
Explain bro
Shanks was literally hyping up how dangerous Blackbeard was by mentioning the fact he got scarred by him
what is there to explain
a fruitless blackbeard btw
Which placements u didnt agree with
this is like zoro scarring kaido with no swords
This does not mean Blackbeard is stronger. If Blackbeard was stronger he would've killed the guy
she kinda thick
Blackbeard wasnt stronger then but he was the moment he got a fruit
Zoro scarred Kaido without a fruit
it was a fruitless blackbeard bro
Being fruitless doesn't matter
she's not real
Lmao
Blackbeards whole fighting style currently is revolved around his 2 fruits
but back in 2015 we had 276 days in a row with rain
Cook his ass
My goat is kinda fruitless
with no swords
lol
You're acting like Shanks stayed at the same level of strength for the next decade
yeah ik, just saying
? and you're acting like Blackbeard did too ??
Blackbeard has never been stronger than Shanks
Shanks does say that he wasn’t being careless in that moment so he did acknowledge his strength.
Blackbeard the moment he got a fruit
was above
shanks
14 years ago
and somehow you are trying to claim shanks 14 yrs ago is above current luffy
mountains
Blackbeard got the fruit years after scarring Shanks
Valid reasoning
Yes, but blackbeard with that fruit scales higher than shanks 14 years ago
is what i am saying
You're acting like Shanks was a couch potato between getting scarred by BB and BB eating his fruit
But no one would genuinely claim yami blackbeard is above gear 5 luffy
actually is
nowhere did i say that
You know whats crazy
I said blackbeard with 1 fruit is above 14 year ago shanks
You're scaling a more recent Blackbeard with a far older Shanks
This makes no sense
it makes perfect sense ?
And this is not the argument I'm making with Loki and Shanks
ur trying to claim 14 years ago shanks
No it isn't
is voer luffy
because i remember years ago when I had geography that they taught mountains block wind carrying moisture. It's been etched into my brain since
gang what are we doing
'blackbeard with one fruit vs shanks 14 years ago' what the hell
which is ridiculous
Ever since Loki got introduced, I have never seen a single Akainu vs WB discussion. They all went extinct. Now we have Loki Shanks discussions lmfao.....
@rose rune @sage temple
You just said Shanks 14 years ago should be > luffy
Loki isn't one of them 
which makes no sense
prime garp that drank milk (hes intolerant) vs prime roger that is awake for 4 days straight
I saw one either yesterday or the day before
because a fruitless blackbeard could scar him so blackbeard with one of the strongest fruits should beat him
Could Zoro slash so powerfully that even he could not block it?
but no one has
Where
in #manga
this doesnt make any sense
I'm not entertaining a conversation with someone who just denies whatever without supporting what they say with anything
Sorry
Loki is above 14 yrs ago shanks
i thought it was pretty obvious
but 14 yrs ago shanks is not above any yonko
This is pretty interesting ngl Loki and Shanks are reaching almost.. rival levels of relevancy
He went crit ambush build and isn’t built for head on fights
Glass canon
Wait socrates
in fact shanks 14 years ago isnt stronger than yami blackbeard
mihawk wins if we're bein deadass
Literally considering he absorbs all the attacks because of Yami
Current Loki wins
true true true.
and I live pretty close to a city surrounded by mountains which is known for having a lot of rain
Loki
👍
We've genuinely reached a point where people have Loki > Mihawk
Wait
Yeah what are we doing here 🥀
If Loki joins Luffy as a SHP, would the SHP be the strongest crew out there?
Discussion below 👇
Mihawk is a subordinate of buggy lol Loki would not submit to Luffy
Yeah
I assume you do a lot of trekking?
All I’m saying
I'm a huge mihawk hater but mihawk definitely beats loki 😭
i meannnn
@alpine trench Agreed?
like
they would have a super powerful
lineup
but then the rest of them
arent that comp
its like not balanced is what im saying
not really, but I do it sometimes at work.
also in the autumn when I go out to pick mushrooms
bro however u slice it
Shanks
mihawk should be at the top
I think Loki is arguably stronger than both
whether or not u have loki over shanks
But thats a different convo
or shakns over loki
Honestly




