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But Ragnir isn't Loki
Oda can think of something
Why are y'all fighting over Hajrudin đ
Loki can walk his big ass next to the ship
upgrade ship or make loki smaller
I think maybe he will use that library owl
ussop weapon getting a df
He cant swim tho
I'm sure he can lead Elbaf even better than his father, but in fights I dont have a ton of faith in him when someone like Loki is right there
I said walk not swim 
he could surf on ragnir
Hell Hajrudin isnt even the strongest giant besides Loki
loki is NOT being a strawhat
Ragnir cant swim (it ate the hammer hammer fruit đ)
Nah probably not
Then again, maybe
let bro drown đ
I don't think he has to be as strong as Loki necessarily but I do think he'll be pretty strong
That's why loki is going to help him
Brothers dynamic incoming
He doesnt need to be (I guess he does for powerscalers and auralovers tho)
the library owl only can use his df in NOT ORGANIC things
Its not about strength he doesn't have a single quality of a leader
yall dont read
At least stronger than Brogy and Dorry who fear Mr. 3.
And the ship is NOT ORGANIC
What lmfao
he'll awaken his DF trust
Guys, if he makes the ship big
oh wait I know what to do
keep the handle up so most of his body isn't actually in water
then put a sail on it
Best to not listen to him
Rich, I think you may be the biggest hater
who's gonna drive that big ass ship
Wranky
Almost 6 btw
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6 months now
Everyone is dead lol
You took 6 months to do anything
Her ass is NOT making it out of wano and I say this being a yamato pfp
Zoro is getting crucified in the sun realm rn while Loki is telling us this story
loki is only gonna be some kind of alliance
Elbaph got conquered all in that time
She should've left in that stupid cover story
???
Rich youâre literally so sold into agenda donât even reply lmfaoo
Zoro has killed the HKs 100 times and is confused why they aren't dying
people here just be typing
lmao
momonosuke IS being strong enough to defend wano alone

I dont follow agenda
I know what he means and its peak ...
Unless its Tama Agenda
Good one
Killingham low diffed him already I'm afraid
Yamato will only exist in cover stories
So if BB kidnaps Shirahoshi, will we see a Loki, Luffy, Law, Kata alliance against BB?
Yeah dude the 80ft tall obvious arc princess is going to be joining us
Riiiiight
Be so for real
Killingham is a queen victim
Yes
Words that have never been spoken before
Unless its Tama
jimbe is 9'10 and Yamato is 8'8
Yeah like Sommers is a Jack victim right?
80 FEET!!!!!!
Exactly
Now I must away
To work
@ashen perch
Jinbei and Yamato arenât princesses also. Loki is.
the only thing Killingham could kill is ham
oh you're talking about loki
so what?
Oda thought he was slick by making it a prince this time
Another pink (or purple?) haired princess
Killingham is low-key island level but people don't wanna hear that
Poor queen, he's already caught in his own nightmare about having to pay child support
nah Loki isn't joining shit realistically
nami is being a lost princess of somewhere
Loki is staying his ass in Elbaph whatever
"Everyone who dislikes my favs or disagrees with my takes are agenda brained"
So dismissive
Nami is Viviâs Sister
Edited before you even hit SEND bitch!!!!!!!
Too fuckin fast!!!!
wrong
that don't even make sense
editado
Too fuckin FAST
Although Kata didn't seem that much in a hurry the last time we saw him. I guess we'll leave it up to Sanji to be Pudding's white knight. Per usual
we got Schrodinger's message here
Nefertari D. Nami doesnât sound that bad
I think she's a Shepard
nami is gonna be from that advanced country from the void century
Katakuri might be strong enough to take down 1 of the mid tier Blackbeard Pirate
Loki is leaving Elbaf but not because he wont be helping to lead the nation, but because he has to find the frozen giants
Lineage piece 
yeah
Nah Kat would run thru about 75% of the BBP
Nami Shepherd is pretty boring to me
is rayleigh gonna pull up in the final war?
Actually idk they kinda need Loki there in case Imu tries to invade again
Okay, so here's the rub. Loki's all powerful and what not, but Luffy has to prove himself the actual sun god instead of it being himself. How does Luffy do that? đ€
I just donât at all see how Oda could be framing Loki as the one who leaves when Harjruden is already a pirate whoâs well established and connected to the Strawhats
Only ones who could beat Kat on the BBP is Kuzan and Blackbeard
Not anymore
Y'all don't realise how strong machivise was
Only Hajrudin was able to defeat him not even fujitora
Nami has actually blue hair but to hide her true identity, she is coloring her hair orange.
The rest are losing
Oda changed his hair to gray
loki is the only one capable of defending elbaph
He and Gaban will aurafarm with the rest of the Roger pirates
And Loki has received literally all of the inherited will beats from his dad
he has to pick up a sword and shield
Wait so what is it
and shiryu and whoever is fighting sanji
Oda took his blonde hair away
0 shot he leaves Elbaph Iâll put 50 on it
Cruel cruel man
Oda made his hair gray in one of the recent volume covers
Hajrudin will probably eat a fruit of his own
This alliance will also need at least 1 very strong non DF guy
Oda changed it
Maybe then he'll finally be worth a damn
Oh FUCK
Never seen loki touching machivise btw 
who was the blonde one
In the bottom left, they stole his blond hair
Hajrudin's dream is to be king, so he's the one who will probably settle there. He can still move around as we saw with Harald, but he's going to be king. Loki needs to find the Galleria giants and help Shirahoshi, so he'll be off for a little while, probably going back and forth from Elbaph
Right?? Curious...
Ooh if he gave them all white or Grey hair it would've been pretty lit
I just donât see it in the tea leaves
Since Vegapunk is technically dead, does that mean his fruit respawned somewhere?
They probably do but Venus is too bald for us to tell
gear 5 ju peter gear 5 ju peter
yes
bonney being nika pissed me of
To be fair, Oda had been changing colors up occasionally. Let's see if it sticks
Idk why Oda changed Peters hair to grey just to give Sommers blonde hair anyway
thatâs so ass
Ragnir alone could handle that bum bruh
Loki could sit there and watch like a Pokémon trainer
getting angry at two people laughing by the way
???
gaban iis dying in elbaf 
he changed it to gray cause he's not fighting sanji
Sommers might not be as old as him
Well he definitely isnt but
So loki aura farming again huh
luffy IS nika but the df of bonney how can even make that shit
which 12 year old censored this
Cause sheâs a believer
If Rayleigh is not dying, so isnât Gaban.
she can make that shit because Luffy is nika
I took this meme from meeks
Yeah but theyre both Shepherds so it couldve been a family thing and Oda actually had Peters hair as blonde
it was like that when I found it
The BB pirates are honestly not all that. If Bepo can take them, Kata can
some reddit kid
maybe idk
Rich I know you see the vision đ
Ill take the blame. It was me who censored it.

gaban is on death's door though
No cursing on discord please. My mom sometimes looks at my account :(
anti viziepop spell
My mom sometimes looks at my account. I just said that.
gaban not dying
Rayleigh was on deathâs door as well when he confronted BB.
crazy statement
YC stands for You Curse so you're lying
Death's door?
what
he clearly was NOT
yeah, BB would have killed him when they would have fought. Rayleigh admitted it
yeah idk, at this point idk who's alive and dead anymore
Is that what they call being old nowadays
rayleigh was only trying to save boa not fighting
Guys I think it's clear now that all roads lead to Blackbeard
Kratos has the whole chat confused
Garp was at death's door when he fought kuzan
but rayleigh's haki almost got bb though
Road upscale
Ray admitted that he might not be able to beat BB. Nothing about him dying or being death's door. BB was totally scared of Ray
i mean bb is top 2 actuallly
Ah he confused Rayleigh with Karp
he was not scared
Magikarp
he is a good politician. He was lucky BB bite or BB would have killed him
magikarp
akainu is not top 1đđđ
Thats funny ngl
he always acts like a that
bruh I meant bb
He been sitting there for what 6 years?
Yea he probably does smell horrible
Yeah,scared
rayleigh had Blackbeard wondering why the hell he wasn't in hachinosu
bb is 3 people btw and scarred shanks with no df
if this is ray's scared face
6 years of no wiping
Shanks survived a 3v1 les gooo
idk if anyone would be able to face him in his serious face
were you at spoilers chat when socrates was arguing that he didn't stink at all and his hair was lustrous and washed
yall are not aware of bb true power
Jolly Saturn
If it wasnt for Rayleigh admitting that he would lose that fight I would agree
bb upscale 
bb is not even interested in shanks
LMAO NO
Rayleigh admitted that he was bluffing
Nah ragnir turns into a big squirrel and occassionally wipes Lokis butt
Toei overdid this btw
that's
Hey Ari hru
kinda
Nice of Saturn to save Christmas
We can let it slide this time Toei W
Um
Wym
true
did you go and find the tcb font just to make that
Sooo like kinda disappointing the big secret to beating the gods knights is infuse coc
Also
Mfs thought Kaido was cappin
Gabben never went up against anothe coc?
he had a whole idea with the cultists always washing him and shit
mane baby loki so ugly
so far we havenât actually seen a Holy Knight die
Everytime Toei hypes up a former Rogers Pirates its cool w/ me
Wtf
Oh I wondered too what they were doing down there
If not cleaning him up then whats the point?
He didn't need protection or anything
Lmao
Who deleted it
because is the only time we gonna see them aura farm
Ya think Harald's alive?
I mean who have we seen die in one piece and we kinda have in Saturn but I get you point
I didnt make it but I love they did that whoever it was
Vro think Toei is writing ts
But my other issue is Gabben says he never fought someone with coc
i wish i got a massage like that
of course he is. He didnât instantly die
where's he's at so
This is my favorite meme
Another perfect time to use it is when momo is on namis lap lol
Shattered in pieces
He is so beautiful fym shoyu 
so died
I am goooood wbuu
Ion think he coming back, haki is haki
Did no one peep that the tattoo was regenerating when Harold could regain his body
you at Amazon Lily pov
I was getting bullied by a Celestial Dragon earlier
Type shit
Garling sent Sommers and the B squad. At least we know Sommers doesn't have coc. Though then again, most organizations don't have a lot of coc users.
Kaido had like 2,
BM had 2,
Shanks has 1 we know of,
WB had like 2-3.
The Revs have 1,
Luffy has 2.
Buggy has 0 confirmed,
Rocks had 3
The Roger Pirates actually have the same I think with 3 confirmed.
So honestly it's not surprising the HKs don't have that many.
that crew washing strawhats
Blackbeard couldve brought anyone with him and he brought these two
Your boss?
this is better
What was he thinking?
half of this crew is useless!! -Cyborg Franky
No YC said i can't read which is lowkey racistđ
he didn't wanna hurt women
he don't needed more
Damn it's okay I can't read too
true
he brought creep #1 and creep #2 to boa hancock 
no? Nobody dies instantly. Plus Harald is immortal.
yc is racist
No he brought the two people probably most susceptible to Boa's powers onto an island with Boa and thought that would somehow work
that's a known fact
BB should've brought augur to Amazon Lily but he's a dumbass
Im joking about the racist bit but yea that bitch tried to tell me I can't read because I dont think Hajrudin is a good leader even tho he almost killed his own crew making dumb decisions
bb is more an opportunist, not that smart in every figth is getting injured
Harjudin lowk just an NPC, bro has no brain
People learn from mistakes
But he wants to be King of the Giants
Yea ight
All the BB pirates are creeps
what if machvise just killed hajrudin right there
I forgot, why was Hajrudin in Dressrosa again?
not doing shi to accomplish that btw
Aokiji's jus a chill guy fr
Vasco & Devon the worst towards women though
lowkey does removing hajrudin's character even affect the plot
he's not even needed
to get mera mera
he wanted to compete for Ace's DF
Get the Fire DF from colosseum
is augur as weirdo as them? I feel like he's more of just a serial killer
I forgot too, is there a reason why? Or he just wanna eat it
Maybe we can use Hajrudin + Ragnir as a raft for Loki
Loki would never be released and would never succeed in ruling Elbaph
You do know you need to have iq to know when to take a gamble or make a move ? You take every chance in gambling and you're bound to go bankrupt
Bae Luffy base Armament lmaoooooo
Did he wanna eat it? Or are there other motives
So a weirdo
!chocheh
he wanted it because his haki is weak af probably
People want DFs for 2 reasons
1: money
2: power
man, it's still unfathomable for me that a fucking giant got low diffed by luffy's G2
He literally blocked a mountain slash
What
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes bro. Loki is my king of giants, harjudin would sell elbaf harder than harald did
how tf does that happen
Xusasu Basasu is kinda tuff
He's going to unite all of the giant races under him and help Luffy in the final war so yeah he is pretty relevant
Hajrudin is a hypetool
he wants to be the king of giants is that ENOUGH?
Weak haki btw
He just wanted to eat it
Sad to see you agree with Rich ... well stay on that side, Hajrudins gonna be great
you guys think herald is dead dead
or be like rocks
This somewhat indirectly confirmed that thereâs no giant with a Logia methinks
My goat
I don't care about hajrudin icl yc
Haj: if I get the fire fruit I can finally extreme diff loki
It's true
when I tell you I literally just burst out a small laugh when I read "THE KING OF ALL GIANTS!!"
He wanted it to help him prove that he could be king. They Elders still weren't giving the throne to Hajrudin even after Loki, because Hajrudin has "dirty blood"
Bro is not becoming king of the giants even with Ace's fruit đ
What is lokis fruit tho lmao
Destiny arrives all the same you can't run from it
Itâs funny when people powerscale Harjudin because it devolves into people supporting eugenics
These mfs only see what they wanna see, sis.
he just needs a haki boost
you got pretty good takes YC, but investing on hajrudin stocks in big 2026
bad decision
it's NOT enough now
hajurdin can be great, loki is just gonna be greater
Well hes objectively gonna fulfill his dream and some people are too biased against him to realize sadly
Imagine thinking u can get king of the giants with ace fruit
Ace couldn't even get PK even with WB buff

!me?
The amount of suprised faces when he fights shanks or the og fight is shown is gonna be colossal
It's his dream and in OP Oda's going to have him realize that dream. I don't care what else happens, but that's something that will
I think he'll achieve his dream
I won't mean shit tho
It's not about being better than loki tho
Loki and Harjudin (unfortunately) are both going to be the kings of Elbaf
Yep
Ngl its funny hajrudin being second billing
ida and harald 2
To everything harald wanted
arisu just hating on hajrudin 
King of the Giants in this case just means uniting all of the different giants together
i do wonder if oda will give hajrudin some spotlight to be more likable
Even though harald clearly only cared a lot about ida
i know is gonna achieve his dream but NOW is weak we're talking about present
he just died for his kingdom lisa
I think he's going to be king of Elbaph first
Hajrudin sadly does not have what it takes to be king
I could see Hajrudin being surprisingly good at paperwork tbh
you know hajrudin is that dude in yo class who reminds the teacher about homework
I'm saying that harald cared more about loki
From the point of a king candidate
Like the last time I was right, once it happens and I say something suddenly I'll be the asshole for saying "I told you so" but what do you expect when these mfs respond to any opinion with "You can't read"
how much interaction did herald and haj even had
If you say "big [year]" it has to make sense. What time does it make more sense than in 2026?
If you know I have good takes you should realize that im right about Hajrudin lol. Imagine hearing a character in One Piece declare his dream and not think hes gonna reach it lol
Put Hajrudin in this situation and elbaf is gone
He says he wants them to rule together
But Harald wants Loki to be King, we can't have 2 kings, he's prolly gonna be the King's ass wiper or smth
Not at this moment
Hell nah
Rule together and such
he can be with morgans
they can be Co-Kings
Sure
He wants them both to rule
But its clear that harald said only loki could write these wrongs
loki has the strength hajrudin doesn't have
hajrudin has the
uhm
uhh
there can only be one king 
Exactly
Thanks for contributing to this conversation Meeks
Loki's gonna have the higher position trusttttt
loki ain't ruling shi
He has harald's blood
If Dorry and Broggy are co-kings, then Hajrudin and Loki will just replace them
Valuable insights!
Thats about it
or make a democracy out of Elbaf. One can be President, the other Chancellor or something.
it's conflicting with loki a lot though, i can imagine it happening if loki doesn't wanna rule the giants
That's it thats all
That's all that's it
There are no democracies is OP
Hajrudin is probably much better at doing any of the actual king stuff than Loki
glad to help
so you you think hajruding is equalling loki?

Well like HPQ says Harald wants both to rule and Imu is already trying to make Dorry and Broggy co-kings
Like not trying to be mean but loki is the king elbaf needs to not get annexed by the world govt
you gotta be smart to be a king
But then again Loki will probably represent Elbaf
there is always a first time for everything
This doesnt have to be the case
that bum ain't smart
Hajrudin could prob do the Oden dance pretty well
No reason for you to think this
Loki will outshadow Hajrudin's weak ahh
but dorry and broggy are equal
Lmao thats what I saw!
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The problem is Loki is not capable of ruling on his own, his strength is good but he has no other qualities for it really
I don't think hajrudin is stupid
Sure. Being king is more than just being strong. Harald learned that at the very beginning. Also Loki's not good at any of the things you actually need to rule a nation
Where do all the white names fake accounts spawn from
I need one
The abyss
what kind of merch is eiichiro staff posting bro
It'd be like saying Doffy is a better king than King Riku because Doffy is strong
Imu army
They're getting suspicious guys
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Powerscaling Harjudin so hard that you support eugenics
LMAOOO
maybe that's possible i guess, one could be the brains, other the brawns
that makes more sense loki dont have any skills to rule
Loki vs Harjudin be like
In all likelyness, Hajrudin is going to be Hokage and Loki his Sasuke.
yo wtf
sadly oda already set up hajrudin to be king
to fix this part
???
Crux of the issue is this, if hajrudin was here he gets killed by harald and even if he survives ragnir kills him.
well when we first met momo he wasn't very suitable for being the shogun
Character development exists no reason to give upon Hajrudin
I dont think Hajrudin kills Loki THAT fast
Not really a competence in ruling for me.
All facts
Loki kills harjudin that fast
Don't compare you McDonald's with my five guys!
is more like loki being bothđ
Oh no what now
you have five guys?
Lol what?
Yes
Yeah that's true for literally every king before Harald too, and I never said Hajrudin will rule alone
even faster
but Elbaf would be fucked if Loki ruled alone
yeah a lot of people hated the brat 
Loki loves his brother đ
I love how I got told I couldn't read and now like 3 people are agreeing with me
Yes lmao why ?
Elbaf wouldn't exist if loki wasn't there
So?
I'll say what I said earlier:
Hajrudin got his father's charisma and diplomatic leadership skills. Loki's not able to bring people together because he rubs everyone the wrong way, but Hajrudin can do that, he can make friends and talk to other nations. It's why the two are going to need each other.
Hajrudin for the leadership side and Loki for the defense
Apparently I can read bitchđ
I think it's gonna be Loki = Naruto and Hajrudin = Shikamaru
Loki will be the strength and Harjudin the mind, Gerd can be my wife
damn can I meet them
A LOT of opfans dont know how to read sadly
Loki cant rule Elbaf alone regardless of if he saved it or not
Him declaring that he wants to be the shogun in front of kaido was goated
brain and brawns 
Doubling down??
How sad
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Wait
this server has so many geniuses
That's why Hajrudin will be his assistant pawn or sum like that as the king
hajrudin is gonna be some kind of hashirama but not being that strong
one of them is you
1ïžâŁ Yes
2ïžâŁ Uhhh uhmm what this poll say uhhh sorry reading is hard uhhh sorry
That fortune cookie is raw
hajrudin is making the biggest giant alliance like hashirama did with the ninja world
it is weirdly shiny
Why is there a Mihawk one
you guys think this is the first ever dried devil fruit
Five guys with fries? I mean it's always different people lmao
raisin df
It's very easy btw guys, just split the responsibilities of king between Hajrudin and Loki. Loki can handle the military and defense, Hajrudin can handle diplomacy
Idk why this is so hard for people
military coup
dint you guys have raisin haki or some shit
A lot of things is very difficult for opfans ...
This is a OP server what did you expect
Also, I think Loki would want Hajrudin to have the throne if not to be there to help him rule. He would be the first to admit Ida should have been Harald's wife and Hajrudin would be considered a firstborn and not just a bastard
fuck it, kill one of the brothers in the final war, problem solved
Let's be honest Loki is not doing that, and anyone else trying to do it Loki would just beat up
I don't trust that mf with shit
without one of them the balance is gone
i personally want loki to be out at sea 
So are we done with the flashback?
Almosz
hopefully
Frick
still need to see how loki got chained
i hope
shanks vs loki got offscreened 
1-2 chapters left
if it ever happened
Ngl this is the longest flashback ngl
boring af
Loki is gonna be King of Mary Giose
how fast do you think he would jump hammer first into a navy base
Imu has shot and killed 100 giant women and children while this flashback is going on
Yeah its 20 chapters
I think Loki also likes his freedom. He'd want to go out and do stuff and not be stuck on Elbaph all the time
There can only be one king especially with Elbaf traditions (probably), Hajrudin will be the vice king or sum like that
unless Oda gives us a Loki montage
??
LMAOOOO
iirc they said
loki got captured then almost got away
then it took all the warriors to restrain him again
then chained to da tree
If yâall think this flashback is long just wait until the Void Century one
I dont really care if you do or dont trust Hajrudin with ruling, idk why you even said this to me
It definitely is the longest but doesn't it feel like a cheat?
Based Imu W
IS IT REALLY 20? It felt like 100
imu like netanyahu
Imu just changed that, so I think that's a good set up for co-kings
ya but we didn't see it happen
what break weeks do to an otherwise mentally stable individual
Damn everyone in chat sensitive as fuck today
true we dont how how much the civ giants stories are real now
He want to be King if the World like his idol Rocks. To be King of the World, you have to be King of Mary Giose
It IS the longest flashback in all of OP for what its worth
Shanks had also recently visited Elbaf right before the straw hats got there and we know he visited Loki .. I wonder if thatâs part of the reason Loki tried to escape .. Shanks said something that pissed him off lol
i still think we're going to see shamrock come out of the pentagram and beat up loki
I don't think Loki wants to be king of the worlds tho
He just wants to be strong
Heâs busy with Mariejoa stuff rn
It's not sensitivity even remotely lol, it just has nothing to do with your opinions it has to do with what Oda will write
Remember that itâs apparently on fire atm
I can see the arc ending with hajrudin and loki as kings of elbaph (under shanks of course he owns the place)
Did she? When was it implied? Pardon me if I've probably forgotten about something
WAHHHHH SOMEONE REPLIED TO ME IN A CHAT ROOM
Loki literally looks like a giant Rocks
OH NO
mary giose is disseapiring after the final war
You come off as far more sensitive that people arent catering to your opinions on things
Wow i wonder how old op reader felt with other character flashback
ah i must have forgotten that
Im sorry you feel that way
Get better soon!
Hajrudin King of Elbaf / Loki Captain of New Giant Warrior Pirates
both leading elbaf in their own ways
Coby gonna meet Sabo soon
There was a king of the world before there was a Maryjois. I think think King of the World is a title like King of the Pirates
rich this is how you get told to shut up by a mod bro you know that 
It is that way
Yeah thatâs why we got both Killingham and Sommers here in Elbaf it was just meant to be one of them but Shamrock got called back to deal with stuff
oh but that's present day, i'm talking about in the harald flashback
that may be but have you seen how gorgeous Mary Giose is? Who doesnât want to live there?
shamrock called back to not be abused by luffy
W
btw about the whole son of king herald will kill him
did we ever see any civilian giants using that against loki
Yeah but Gabben says he never fought any one with coc not just the gods knights..I mean that already puts Luffy leagues ahead
Ancient Kingdom probably made Mariejois look like childâs play with how much VP glazed them lol
Oh at this point I donât think Shamrock really knows Loki yet so hard to say
Hajrudin is Akainu?
If you ask me anyways sorry about late reply
Ion remember Imu changing shit, all she did was want Elbaf as military power, hence, controlling Harald
akainu a bitch
How are you somehow passive aggressive and a complete moron at the same time? I really dont get you man
The present time was Lokiâs first run in with Shamrock so prob not Iâd say?

checking how much here was bullshit
yeah itâs clear between their dialogue itâs their first time ever meeting
Someone is in deep off in their feelings today I see
we know that loki already met shamrock prior, so i'm thinking after loki defeats harald shamrock might be the one that beats him up so that loki gets chained in the underworld. just a theory though, who knows at this point haha
Shamrock knows nothing about Loki strength .. he was just being the cocky CD like they all are
He made Dorry and Broggy kings of Elbaph. So all you need to do is replace them after this is done, with Loki and Hajrudin
shamrock some pussy
@steel stirrup ngl now I think about it. Gaban saying GK are weak to CoC is like saying a martial artist is weak to fire. Every single human is weak to fire đ . If you use conquerors on anyone in OP it would always do more damage.
do you think shamrock is stronger than garling?
well I mean it's not like they have other weaknesses
yeah but sadly thatâs not saying much lol
Shamrock is just using gamer strat to wear down the boss before fighting it
but it's the only way

fellas yall really gonna let oda get away with just reintroducing logia with another name and lamer?
Yeah buy you could use CoC on anyone regardless. It's bizzare to even bring up when anyone with conquerors would be using it by default.
i just think it's more that rocks was that powerful more than garling being weak
its time we revolt
đJust sprinkle a lil Conq on it for extra an extra kick
Only saving grace is saying that gaban has never fought a GK with Coc
My champion Loki was robbed of his Logia, I give up
This is why im kinda like what? Did no one try and infuse coc to fight them? Like Zoro is going to become the gods knights slayer instead of pirate hunter if this is the case lol
we should put Oda in a one chapter/day schedule, he's slacking off way too much recently
gatling and all the HK are bums btw
Well imagine theres a species of people who are immune to anything except fire so we would focus on the fire
He hasn't faced anyone but the ones that came after Shanks. As Shanks says, they don't come down often. So yeah I'll bet that like many groups, the HKs have probably like 2 people with coc.
The elders have 5, and then there's Imu himself.
I feel like its just Garling and Shamrock
that too but itâs one thing if Garling just lost 1v1 to Rocks .. he was losing to this man while he outnumbered him like 10 to 1 and one of the times he got cooked was while rocks was carrying his wife & child .. I canât even include Garling in top tier talks anymore sadly
surely the current HKs got much stronger
It feels like even with acoc you could mess up a lunarian too. Its just funny as hell.
ye I noticed Oda uses a lot in-universe slander.
Surely
Wait what? No Gabben is saying he never fought any one but Harold with coc not just holy knights
at the very least Shamrock has to have acoc
he probably learned from this server
Yeah all they have to do is output acoc. Which both him and luffy have been doing since egghead.
are you a hopium inhaler or a copium inhaler
heâs talking about just the holy knights
yeah i feel that. although the people with garling weren't huge threats in the first place. like they were domi reversi'd grandparents, you think those people are going to be a factor in the battle? i still agree that garling is way weaker than rocks either way
Crazy shit didn't work on kaido lmao
Yeah but that was Imu who implied that and not the country itself. Elbaf ain't a part of the government so Imu's words are not really that relevant imo
Lesser acoc at the time sadly
he had another holy knight with him as well
There definitely not tho he says he never faced any one else with coc unless the translation is off
oh tru, i forget which one but ya you're right
inhale both and become a manifestation enjoyer
so this is shanks capturing him ye?
we don't know, this is what i'm curious about as well. how did loki get shackled?
no look at the dialogue , he says this right after telling shanks they always came from him and he always beat them up â i never fought one that had CoC too â is clearly refereeing to only the HKs since thatâs what him & shanks were talking about
Its literally impossible for gaban to have never fought someone with coc
exactly like letâs use some common sense
He's just talking about GK
nearly got away could be he almost removed all the chains???
we already saw in the battle against domi reversi rocks that if you're fighting against someone who has conqueror's too, it's whoever has the stronger conquerors that wins
or he was sentenced after herald died
He was talking about those with immortality, not in general. Gaban has fought Oden and WB and others, of course he's fought people in general with coc?
nah cant be
is the "black blade" thing possible with other weapons that aren't swords?
Oda specifically making clear almost no HK has coc ... I hope at least 1 has it lol
Yeah
wasnt he talking in context about the repeated attempts to get shanks back from the holy knights
that definitely wasnt just about god valley
Shamrock probably does
stabs
If Garling and Shamrock have no acoc then cooked
Shamrock probably gonna be the only one
tbh, wouldn't surprise me. loki even with seastone is still scary af
That would be peak
but Shameock CoC wonât be as strong as Haralds so itâll be easier lol
is nearly got away just loki being out at sea until shanks got him?
8 years is kinda short timewise for giants
ye, Zoro coated a knife black in Wano
He was specifically talking about fighting GKs yes. It doesn't make sense to say gaban never fought anyone with acoc
Yeah idk to me it still read as if he never fought any one earlier with coc which is valid cus there arnt a lot of people with it and Gabben usually doesn't fight the main captain
I mean Shamrock would've also been a kid at the time they were trying to get Shanks back. Chances are he wouldn't have been a knight yet
he didnt fight anyone with that in HKs yeah
i genuinely don't know! but that's totally plausible
Well by the time the HKs tried to take Shanks away, Shamrock would also be a kid so its okay he didnt have coc back then
Nah this was their first time meeting
I think they'll make it happen. Especially since its what Harald wanted. Also screw the elders at this point, if they're not all dead
I meant the process of turning a blade permanently black, like Yoru or Shusui
Yeah everyone they sent to get shanks dint have it either
I feel like garlic could have it specifically because I don't think he would be running around facetanking the Roger pirates
So assumption is harald was a rarity among GK
oh dang okay ty for correcting me. so it was shanks that shackled him?
oh iâm not talking about back then , im saying now in present day
so its clear that yes, these motherfuckers are strong but they're not THAT strong unless they have conquerors in return
black paint mihawk something something
isn't it dumb to think that the holy knights themselves would go to Roger to get Shanks, seems like a task for the GKs only
I mean Harald is the only one we know to be super strong before becoming a knight
oh i missed the younger part
I believe harald was the strongest hk
So he is kinda exceptional
Yea Shanks was the one that stopped Loki around 6 years ago
Especially since he was an equal to Rocks
harald and shanks were probably the strongest
Yeah I hope present day its looking different
shamrock older by 3min
Maybe they should have
The only people I can see with coc is garling and shamrock
shanks was just devoted blade
Maybe not garling tho
Shanks technically was never a knight
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did shanks still have 2 arms at that point?
Thats it thats all thats the list
He was supposed to be but he dipped last minute
And even Garling is on trial ngl
ok yeah harald probably was the strongest in that bunch unless garling has it
I was just talking earlier, if you really think about it. That's not unusual for an organization. Most only have 1-2 coc users. 3 confirmed has been the max
i mean yeah, but that's the point
yeah he was a devoted blade
LMAOO
We have never seen him fight white beard or Oden. As of right now it seems like he talking Specifically about any one with coc
so you think all those times roger pirates & garp group fought that he never encountered garp ? cmon now lmao heâs a wing of the pirate king of course he did
so does this mean Gunko had CoC on her own and a strong one?
possibly all the gorosei have coc too
garling mightve awakened it but thats a far call
I mean even if Garling had it idk lol... being an equal to Rocks is a pretty big deal
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6 years ago so def not.
Why would rayleigh or Gabben fight Garp when harp is only there to fight Roger
Considering Shanks couldnt put him down back then. I'd argue he was the strongest GK we've seen so far.
Y'all are making assumptions
what a badass shanks is lmao
garling defintiely got the acoc update
yeah garling at GV got bitched by rocks
it's like that after every chapter dw it settles down
That Shanks tax is a mf
heâs there to fight and capture ALL of them.. we literally see this in god valley where he said he came for roger & rocks but he was still trying to fight Rocks subordinates
so imu cant just give you CoC with the contract
but if imu directly use your body as a proxy you get CoC?

Non canon
LMAOOOOO
Hes not lol he only is looking for Roger
He's spared and fought against Roger, that counts too
I'm sure he got stronger after GV and he'll definitely be strong now but yeah Harald was a beast
Yeah it was a pretty bad look for Garling
Who says tho that's an assumption
Also you can't tell me Gaban and Ray have never fought
I love this panel so much
yeah your just being ignorant now to support your point cause he literally says ar god valley he came for roger & rocks but he was still trying to fight and capture rocks subordinates as well .. to him theyâre all â big fish to catch â
bro the god knights are frauds anyways
No Garp really isn't for the Roger pirates he really just wants to fight Roger
classic Oda silhouette piece fail
so why was he trying to fight rocks subordinates then if he only came for their captain
Garling should've been great
What a shame
"How shall I attack" Well I guess by running right into his sword and losing
so is the sacred giant devil fruit going to be nidhogg or fenrir? i think between loki's eyes and ragnir being ratatoskr, i'm leaning more towards nidhogg
my headcanon is everybody can develop coc just with 100 push-ups, 100 sit-ups, 100 squats, and a 10 km run every day.
fenris truthers arise LETS GO
Well since its a group of people who can only be damaged by acoc I think we are mostly gonna see people with acoc fighting them and it would be cool if they mostly selected coc users among them to recounter that weakness and it comes to coc clashes. Final war in general could become an acoc festiva but I guess its enough if Imu, Gorosei and some HKs have it?
thinking a post pirate journey gaban hasnât fought anybody with CoC until Harald is just delusional lol
With Odas wacky design choice I still think Sutur isnt off the table yet
Bro rocks and Roger are different people and Garp had a different relationship with each of them also who did Roger give his kid to? Did rocks do that? No because Roger and Garp have a different relationship. Even if Garp won he would never actually take Roger in like smoker
Nidhoggr would make it a more interesting pairing with the ratatoskr hammer
its not fenrir its clearly a horse
i liked surtur before we got this most recent chapter
mpreg loki is real
i swear if loki turned out to be like this
its so over
genuinely it has become haki piece 
Spice wtf
I should mention when leaks came out earlier this week Worstgen mixed leaks with his headcanon that Loki had the niddhog fruit
Isnt it seahorses that mpreg happens with
I think it's a high chance it's nidhog or isn't there some dragons in Norse mythology that use electric as power ? I'm going off of God of war
Auraloss of the century together with the "watch this, children" from earlier
that has nothing to do with Garp wanting to capture big name pirates .. again your point makes no sense at all.. but if you wanna believe that then you got it lmao
I actually never realized it because we keep seeing them over and over again but having a lot of coc users is actually as rare as Oda says it is.
Kaido had like 2,
BM had 2,
Shanks has 1 we know of,
WB had like 2-3.
BB has 0 confirmed
The Revs have 1,
Luffy has 2.
Buggy has 0 confirmed,
Rocks had 4
The Roger Pirates had 3 confirmed.
So honestly it's not surprising the HKs don't have that many.
sanji probably on the cusp but we haven't witnessed it yet
this was when he was about to kill civilians right?
Its still relatively rare yeah, only around 30 coc users confirmed
no loki in the norse myth becomes a mare and has babies with another horse
I wanted it to be Surtr but the silhouette from the shadow looks too dog-like
đyep
and the baby becomes odins horse sleipnir
that aint aura to start with
Yk what I don't think Loki is the type to lead a country anyways and Elbaf does not deserve him. Maybe the argument that Hajrudin should be king is right⊠Loki should run wild in the seas like rocks
and how many have aCoC?
Are you counting the captains because if you are then Rocks had 4
loki's eyes look so dragon like that i'm still leaning towards nidhogg
I just don't think they get that many. I mean you have people like Doffy, but you're not going to have a ton of them and that's natural since coc users are rare. The elders have the most by far
Went from "Watch this children" to "where tf are my children"
Riddle me this .how come Garp didnt go to God valley till he hears Roger was there huh?
Lmaooo
but he's always had those eyes
yeah, but have to remember fruits choose who eat them too
Yeah, I counted the captains. Oh yeah, I forgot Kaido. That makes 4 for Rocks, so he has the most so far
Only zoan
So far weâve seen two people corrupted by Imu be dealt with by murdering them
Theres gonna be a different weakness to the Reversi
loki's fruit seems zoan to me
Two Nikas
Yeah, I hoped he would become a distinguished figure in God Valley other than killing the most civilians, especially since the game was interrupted. I guess it is pretty distungishable that he finished off Rocks but I feel like Oda missed a little opportunity there
True. I'm just specifying
I think without Luffy the only way to deal with them is to kill them
the choosing fruit thing kinda weird
when CP9 gave lucci and kakku the fruits
how did the fruit chose em?
That seemed more random tbh
exactly
but I'm sure Luffy's fruit has some counter to domi reversi at least
I think it just can happen doesn't always happen
well duh, but how you gonna kill them?
so i dont really know if thats a case by case
Kaku likes giraffes though
So the fruit found him
Itâs not random
Does he really
Or was that just cope
Haki lol
Well we just them die lol, it seems like it takes a ton of haki
No really
they dint even know what kind of fruit spad gave them
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Shanks did want to find a way to save them, which I think will happen
before eating i mean
Ecoc
but haki doesnt seem to work on Imu, so the solution will likely be different for him at least
For those worried about haki being the solution for everything
It sounded like that but since he awakened it he probably really likes them
we haven't seen people use coc haki directly on imu, just someone imu's been controlling
well luffy defnitely has a lot more awakening left
But then Logias would be unbeatable
I hope this wont be another Oda forgot thing
and he's nowhere near joyboy too
He's so happy
sure that makes more sense if the awakened version accepts them
cuz you need the whole mind and body merging thingy
Yeah but Xebec had to have tried something on Imu before leaving
Cute
im sure there's a way
happy to be finally free
Loki loves this guy I already know
FREEDOM
Gaban saying this reminds me of that Star Wars saying that one can never turn back from the Dark Side, and yet that wasn't true either
Never seen someone so happy to get one tapped
i'm not sure, i think he just ran away
Finally found someone worthy after centuries
pirate jesus will fix this
Na to come all that way and not try an attack
Bro said Finally
there's always a way
I just can't see it
You mean Nika?
yep
the top 6 people in the world attacked Imu with full blazing acoc, SURELY Oda considered this would at least affect someone with regeneration and Imu has way less of a weakness against that right? Right...?
Jesus burges is pirate Jesus?
he was alone in the heart of the WG, no way he'd get out alive
!?!!
look.. burgees almost became nika
If he killed imu he would have
but he didn't
All the gods knights would have lost there powers
Their
Well I mean I do actually think specific devil fruits are gonna be needed to take out Imu
imu is still alive
At least Luffy's fruit and possibly also the yami yami
burgees as nika
none stop laughing
that laugh will kill people on how annoying it is
He didn't because it was useless like ok gods valley
He almost was tho
yeah i think he was tempted to attack, but i don't think he did
I'm pretty sure Rocks and everyone who attacked Imu did
I guess the question is which one Xebec meant because one of them is the Elbaf fruit
He definitely did t just go into the flower room to say hi
honestly, i am betting on the theory that bb's df power is the only way outta this, until luffy's nika powers fully come through
and maybe loki's df can be useful
i think he wanted to go there to confirm that imu was real
THE GOAT
Na on God valley imu was possessing Saturn
Today we cry, for Loki, for Harald, for Elbaf and for Shanks.
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Well if he wanted to eat the other fruit for himself the odds are really really high that it's the yami yami. I have doubts that it's Luffy's fruit that he wanted to eat because he doesnt seem to know about Nika until Loki tells him
Probably even bigger
squirel vs usopp who wins
get usopp past elbaf cat
So what are the theories of what Lokis fruit is? Mythical Wolf, Fenrir ?

In pretty sure xebec says he was unable to do anything at that point and that's when he started planning and getting the other two fruits..rocks already knew Imu was a thing
That just means Saturn is impervious, which by proxy means Imu is even more impervious
Oh right thats interesting. So there are actually 3 fruits who can hurt Imu ... that Xebec knew of
Exactly
yeah that makes sense. which is why i don't think he directly attacked imu at that point
No because he didn't need the fruits before this or he wouldn't have went all the way to the holy land..rocks went there to kill Imu 100010 percent
He failed in some way
And had to run
He probably went there to see if Imu even exists and then to try and threaten him
who is the strongest sh the squirle can win against
Zoro
Why would he not just try and attack him
Xebec knew that he needed them in his plan, but because he didn't even know Imu had regen, it's hard for him to have factored that in
Which he succeeded in finding him but failed to actually intimidate him
he was probably outmatched and needed to go back and plan a new method of attack
Right so he attacked Imu and Imu regenerated that's my whole point
Rocks tried to attack Imu and discovered he can't hurt them with haki alone
Or skoll
Or nidhoggr
Or a snek with legs and wings and hands
(my personal fav)
He knew Imu was immortal tho, isnt that kinda connected
that's just speculation since we didn't see it on screen, but i'm not ruling it out. just we don't know for sure
None. Chopper will invite him for lunch and that's as far as it will go 
because he realized he couldnt win probably just off of sensing Imu with observation haki and realizing he's too strong. I mean also why else would he try and use the kidnapped kings to blackmail Imu if he was just gonna attack immediately?
Because we seen a panel of it it would take away from all five attacking Imu and it doing anything
Since Chopper is with Loki rn I hope he meets the squirrel
He knew he lived a long time, but that seems to be as far as his knowledge got. Rocks knew some things, but his knowledge had holes in it.
that's plausible but again, we don't know
Why else would he sneak all the way up there and not try and attack imin
He definitely tried
Or at least for me it seems like he tried
i think a big part of it was verifying his davy clan's stories and lore passed down from parent to child and verifying imu was a real being and the real threat
Dudes not showing up to say hi than bye and we know he had haki that could effect at least 5 km at the time
@barren token

To do all that and let that chance slip by would be idiotic and rocks never seemed that way
oh shit Chopper can talk to the squirrel, well now Oda HAS to make them meet
I agree. Imu probably was almost a myth passed down by the Davys and so he probably wanted to verify for himself that the guy even existed
well to attack someone who you're unsure of their power level and weakness is also kind of dumb
I thought it was the reveiiry ?
and I guess he found out
Crazy cus he did this right after this panel to Harold
I wonder what it has to say because technically its either a hammer or a devilfruit speaking
now use that same question with revos invading
The secret art of using more acoc
did sabo see imu too in mariejois?
because Harald was about to attack him lol
The squirrel and the creature Loki ate the devilfruit of were probably friends (which is part of why it being Nidhöggr is a strong theory)
Haki 
It's exactly what we already saw lol
CoCpper soon
Yes
Harald was pissed at Rocks because he was getting blamed for the things Rocks was doing on MarieJois
whats Nidhöggr
is that a mythical squirrel or something
So most likely the hammer is mythical zoan model Ratatoskr
i wonder if sabo attacked imu too then by this logic
elbaf is choppers arc
It's like a dragon thing
I literally face palmed when I saw the tls ngl. My idea was it required a specific application of acoc. Not just doing typical acoc stuff.
I'm pretty sure Harold is defending him self and rocks is attacking
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