also-manga

[honest garden]

People who try and make canon arguments for (any) shipping are just embarassing

[thick mango]

It's cool but horrible for you. It being horrible for you doesn't make it uncool

[wraith mantle]

What makes it cool

[honest garden]

I see it like I see fat people. Like wow bro, you give in to your basal desires, loser, no self-control

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/lostinthought-burdenedbythepast-silentreflection-theweightofitall-smokeandmemories-gif-15896105148887798003

[royal orchid]

if you can pay the drawback of tasting, smelling, feeling like shit, craving the white chalk and coughing all day yeah

[dense haven]

zosan

[celest mauve]

when zoro was the only one who trusted in vivi's strength, zovivi >>>

[wraith mantle]

Holy shit

I thought this was a body positivity type place

[honest garden]

Only for intrinsic traits

[wraith mantle]

True

My brothers smoke

I only smoke shisha when I go out to a shisha lounge

[thick mango]

Everyone's got some vice. The fact some ppeople wear it on their sleeves doesn't make em lesser

[dense haven]

if some people decides to never wash their swamp ass do we gotta be positive about it?

[thick mango]

It looks cool makes you feel cool it's fun. It's like a cup of coffee you inhale

[wraith mantle]

Why you out there sniffing people’s butts

[honest garden]

They wear it on their sleeve then rub it on me and everyone else due to smell. I don't think anyones vice is cool

[honest garden]

Do you live in a cold country?

[wraith mantle]

Yeah

[thick mango]

Many vices are cool and most virtues are uncoopl

[honest garden]

During hot seasons, swamp ass gets a 5000% swamp ass range

[wraith mantle]

Oh damn

[trim lily]

it gets both a range and intensity boost

[dense haven]

double if its an anime fan

also armpits

never go to a con in a hot country

[trim lily]

double points if it’s humid

[honest garden]

Anime fans have a +50% intensity and likelihood race boost for swamp ass

[celest mauve]

I take a shower every day, what kind of anime fan am I

[honest garden]

Fake one

[wraith mantle]

You ain’t an anime fan

[celest mauve]

😔

[wraith mantle]

How many animes have you watched

[celest mauve]

truthfully, like 5 or 6

[wraith mantle]

Fucking poser

[trim lily]

real ones shower three times a day

[celest mauve]

[royal orchid]

not sure if I'm missing anything

[thick mango]

I dunno how people can not shower

[royal orchid]

being from hot tropical climate country: the example

[wraith mantle]

What’s there to do in a con if you ain’t cosplaying

[thick mango]

If I go more than 24 hours it starts to feel foggy

[wraith mantle]

Are there events and stuff or just walk around and buy stuff

[royal orchid]

buy shit from artists and look at cosplays

[trim lily]

go to booths, buy stuff, talk to people

[celest mauve]

I went without a shower for one day and I felt so icky the next day

[tranquil blade]

In the summer here even when you shower it feels like this so it really is not fun

[royal orchid]

I feel icky 2 hours after not showering for the day it's crazy

[celest mauve]

I can't imagine being zoro with his one-day-a-week showering and constant working out and sweating on top of that, how does anyone not faint being around him

[royal orchid]

it's called aura bruh

[trim lily]

genuinely how does anyone on that ship stand luffy and zoro

[celest mauve]

I love this image

[celest mauve]

it's even funnier that someone like nami, who showers every day, is so comfortable being touchy with luffy

[dense haven]

loki canonically didnt wash for 6 years

[sage temple]

Ignoring clear evidence of Loki's hygiene

[dense haven]

unless the cultists did the job

[celest mauve]

in reality she should haul his ass to the bathroom

[trim lily]

loki hygiene feats

[sage temple]

How do you think Loki's hair is so lushious and bright

[royal orchid]

socrates I will send you to mars

[dapper tree]

Hasn't showered in 30 years

[sage temple]

Showers daily btw

His cultists do the deed

[celest mauve]

how did loki go to the bathroom all this time

[sage temple]

It's fine

[stone tulip]

Literally every straw hat who had befriended Vivi are ready to raid mariejose including Nami and Luffy, the only one who didn’t want that was Zoro but only because they lack any info about her whereabouts and if she in actual danger in the first place, if it was established then he would too be ready to save her as well.

[sage temple]

Cultists did that too

[dapper tree]

His cultists got written outta the story

[trim lily]

giant hole in the ground below him

[dapper tree]

Oda forgot about the cultists

[celest mauve]

oh man

[stone tulip]

Especially when it comes to straw hats who Oda himself deadass stated that none of the ships is canon at all.

[honest garden]

Cleaning loki would be like cleaning the burj kalifa, he's so big that once they finish they already need to start again

[royal orchid]

I don't think they would want to approach when Emperor Of The Sea Straw Hat Luffy is right there

[celest mauve]

feel bad for the subterranean life underneath

[dapper tree]

They wouldn't care

[stone tulip]

Oh yeah Loki must have been very smelly 😭

[dapper tree]

I would be down for the cultists to defeat nightmare monsters

Let them get upscaled

[ruby moat]

do u think shanks let him take a shower before chaining him up after beating his ass

[stone tulip]

…I don’t want to even imagine that

[royal orchid]

he probably has 6 year old dried blood there on his clothes

[sage temple]

Loki also conquers the entire underworld

The yeti can be used as a washcloth

I bet the other animals pitch in too

[royal orchid]

hey yeti come be my toilet paper again

[sage temple]

Only logical reason for Loki's hair to be so beautiful and full

[honest garden]

Afterwards it'll just become a large brown bear

[dapper tree]

His df gives him good hair

[royal orchid]

damn is he the giant prince or snow white

[dapper tree]

It's a hint by oda

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/snow-white-animals-snow-white-sweet-animals-gif-15751180

[sage temple]

Giant snow prince white

[royal orchid]

the rare brown-streaked polar bear

[dapper tree]

Human human mythical model Snow White

[olive sigil]

Human human fruit model Joe

[digital spear]

Toilet that ate the Human Human fruit model Quagmire

https://tenor.com/view/quagmire-toilet-glenn-quagmire-gif-15511282

[celest mauve]

😐

[dapper tree]

Ai slop

[thick mango]

Is it good? Got an actual link?

[somber flare]

“I” “animated”

[celest mauve]

if you're that curious: https://youtu.be/E17W2sFK0FU?si=6hN69xWp8LxrKspz

[thick mango]

Honestly indistinguishable from any other fan animation

[inner agate]

what the scallop

[runic dock]

Didn’t know Ben Whittaker had a legit whitebeard tattoo on his back , and in this fight he’s dodging illegal elbows and headbutts , legend

[olive sigil]

Why does it always have to look so edgy

[somber flare]

WHO is that in the back

[thick mango]

That's pretty common for fan animations

[olive sigil]

I feel like most fan arts and ai slop try to change one piece into something it’s not. At least in the manga

[thick mango]

Well if you're not gonna put your own take on it what's the point

And most people learn towards edge I guess

[distant vine]

"ChatGPT, generate me a Blackbeard onscreen feat"

[olive sigil]

Yeah that’s fine it just all looks kinda boring when it’s 90% of edgy fan arts

[distant vine]

And it says its impossible to do that

[thick mango]

I mean that's basically what powerscaling is right. Pretending this is dbz. Making it more about fights, edgier, more quantitative

What is calling someone yc1 if not calling them super sayian 3

And tons of people love that

[distant vine]

Oda loves powerscaling

[olive sigil]

Yeah it’s probably appealing to the masses, that’s why they do it, it’s just not my thing

[dapper tree]

Powerscaling is epic

[wraith mantle]

where chapter

[olive sigil]

I prefer jollyscaling

[dapper tree]

Luffy is the jolliest

Hands down

Followed by that guy in wano who died

[honest garden]

Hawikins is his name

[dapper tree]

The other guy

[honest garden]

Ooh kanjuro

[dapper tree]

He is pretty jolly but the shorter one

[steel stirrup]

Doji?

Yasuie?

[dapper tree]

Yeah him

Yasuie

Neko is 3rd jolliest

[steel stirrup]

Oh, hell yea

[dapper tree]

Followed by perospero

Luffy
Yasuie
Neko
Peros

4 jolliest characters

[olive sigil]

I meant power scaling jolly Rogers

[olive sigil]

And Toko?

[dapper tree]

Toko is fake jolly

A pretender

[trim lily]

she was not holly nor jolly in wano

[ruby moat]

shes also a dirty thief

[honest garden]

She didn't even help the raid on onigashima

Yet she reaps the benefits

[blazing mantle]

Is dr kureha a jolly character

[dense haven]

why didnt oda give us a xmas chapter

[olive sigil]

She got that booze boost

[blazing mantle]

He’s a grinch

[olive sigil]

Show Kureha being jolly without the bottle and we can talk

[ruby moat]

she is one piece santa.

[olive sigil]

Does this mean chopper >>>>> Rudolph and the other reindeers?

[ruby moat]

yea

[distant vine]

I've been seeing so many Christmas anime edits

They need to make One Piece ones

I wanna see Shanks spread some Jolly Haki to the world

https://tenor.com/view/shanks-one-piece-anime-one-piece-eustass-kid-kid-shanks-gif-5537646442831264042

[trim lily]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-one-piece-christmas-one-piece-jolly-one-piece-festive-one-piece-epstein-gif-15584167746098408102

[fallen meteor]

theres a lot

twitter had a lot

[thick mango]

Kidd isn't very jolly

[fallen meteor]

also pro tip dont search one piece christmas on the gif browser and scroll a bit

[olive sigil]

He’s on the naughty list for sure

[olive sigil]

I mean it’s a beautiful gif

[fallen meteor]

the ai one?

[frail cradle]

[vital heart]

i have something to say

I have a headache :(

[fallen meteor]

[vital heart]

also

i have a question

brace for impact

bear with me now

we know as you get older, you lose your haki power

do you guys think that if you get older, you lose devil fruit powers?

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/view/bear-with-me-gif-9016409457053668395

[vital heart]

lets say someone with the mera mera no mi can do some insane tricks with the fruit at age 30

when theyre 80, can they still do them?

[olive sigil]

I don’t know but I do know the back pain intensifies

[trim lily]

probably takes some more stamina

[fallen meteor]

i think we have some indications that using a df takes your stamina

[olive sigil]

Meek you mean irl or in the manga?

[vital heart]

manga

[fallen meteor]

so as you get older you can use less times? with less amount

[olive sigil]

Interesting

I’d say they can still do it. Those old guys are tough in one piece

[fallen meteor]

so i think you can do pretty much anything you did before, you just cant do a lot in sequence

very interesting question, Meek

never thought about it

[olive sigil]

The one with nami and boa

[dense haven]

yall feeling jolly?

[fallen meteor]

it's pleasant on the eyes yes but also very AI
also look at nami growing midway through

[olive sigil]

Very ai but seen way worse stuff

[urban sluice]

this.what.you're.talking.abt?

[olive sigil]

You perv why are you sending that

https://tenor.com/view/xmas-merry-xmas-gif-11876155390482568901

[urban sluice]

i.dont.think.being.a.perv.is.the.biggest.concern.with.posting.this.slop

[fallen meteor]

yes ai

didnt want to post it because uhh

anyways

do you guys get friend requests from people on this server that never chatted

[olive sigil]

Yeah don’t answer

Unless you’ve already spoken to the person

[fallen meteor]

i usually look them up here to see if it's someone i know or if they are just normal but sometimes its just zero messages

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-ai-130-backpack-supreme-backpack-baby-tuff-baby-meme-gif-2218754133828871165

[fallen meteor]

they announced this baby is getting left in 2025 btw

[ruby moat]

who is "they" and where do "they" live

[alpine trench]

The baby has been eradicated

[dapper tree]

https://tenor.com/view/ash-baby-gif-7280845142657635823

[fallen meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/fireworks-firework-fourthofjuly-chineseinvention-celebrate-gif-10257809852617572145

[thick mango]

Sounds like I should cache this baby away and it'll be exclusive in 2026

[olive sigil]

They tried to get rid of this baby by throwing him off the tree but he’s back

[vital heart]

By a hydrogen bomb?

[distant vine]

Get this garbage out of my face bro 😭

[olive sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/larry-larry-child-gguh-baby-laugh-gif-6155286057470724104

Look at this instead

[keen quiver]

What in the slop

[fallen meteor]

tried to warn you all

[urban sluice]

mb.gang

sorry.for.the.slop

[distant vine]

It looks like Boa's going in for a kiss too.

Disgusting (BECAUSE I HATE BOA NOT BECAUSE THEYRE TWO WOMEN)

[urban sluice]

mid.takee

[grand flower]

Hancock is a feminist icon fr fr

[hazy turret]

No she isn’t

[distant vine]

I was gonna shout that first but I already pulled my "speaking for women" card this year

^

[hazy turret]

Thank you for being an ally

[grand flower]

She’s a great allegory for the plight of the modern woman following the post-1920s rise of the Manosphere and capitalism

[hazy turret]

That’s a whole load of nothing

[distant vine]

Hiding behind terms like Pearl hiding behind that armor...

[olive sigil]

That would be a stupid thing to say and you better not think that

[distant vine]

Hey you already mouthed off at that post when it first came out

You had your one reply

[trim lily]

shuron is the goat of saying words

[olive sigil]

Sharon is quite good

[olive sigil]

I can be mad about law as much as I want. You reminded me of that prick and now you get to deal with my anger

[hazy turret]

Hancock isn’t challenging any social norms for what a woman can or can’t be in the op world. I’d say BM is more of a feminist icon than her because of her managing a massive empire, a pirate crew, and being a mother to 85 children

[trim lily]

i wonder how much raising she actually did for children past like #20

[distant vine]

Feel like Oda would have her become a housewife for Luffy

If they became a couple

[scenic dirge]

It still feels so weird to think that multiple of her children should have vivid memories of being on the Rocks pirates

That just feels like something that Oda didn’t initially consider but realized he had no choice due to the timeline he established lol

[trim lily]

katakuri casually name dropping rocks the next time he meets blackbeard

[scenic dirge]

Peros was 12 years old during GV 😭

[scenic dirge]

“You’re not even half the man your father was”

[trim lily]

man i forgot how fucked up he looked as a kid

[scenic dirge]

(He almost certainly doesn’t know they’re related but still)

[trim lily]

what happened to his eyes

[blazing mantle]

Poked them out

What’s taking you guys so long to type

You’re scaring me

[trim lily]

[distant vine]

Shuron gonna hit us with Copium Impact

On Christmas of all days

[trim lily]

not holly nor jolly i would say

[charred flower]

Do the live action directors believe in that zoro "agenda"?

[grand flower]

The manosphere is such an explosive and aggressive display of the objectification and dehumanization of women following the advent of women’s access to education and employment following the 1920s

The systemic outlets for these were gone so they became more overt with things like the anonymity of the internet, the somewhat ironic way that clout motivated people to be controversial and inflammatory, and what people call the male loneliness epidemic which is really just capitalism sucks the life outta life

The way Hancock puts on a persona of cruelty deters people from trying the Kuja. Shes experienced the worst of being objectified and dehumanized by men, so she overcompensates with a “strong” and “resilient” demeanor that’s in truth an armor for deep pain

The way objectification has gotten more aggressive irl is why you see so many women within the next few generations after feminism kicked off talking about the plight of having to be strong all the time, the same thing Hancock has to do

The way Hancock is able to turn the people who objectify her into literal objects conveys a fantasy tailored to the experience of women, and the way Luffy allows her to be soft and vulnerable by first approaching her as a person and not something to be desired depicts the way we oughta be treating women

Hancock falling for Luffy cause he tells her shes sickening is funny because it’s also genuinely tender and sweet because he’s being honest with her

He’s meeting her at the level of, you’re a person and this is what I think of you as a person

[shadow knoll]

Didn't your parents teach you to give tl'drs

[hazy turret]

That doesn’t make her a feminist icon that just makes her a woman lol

[grand flower]

TLDR for me stand for that lit doobie rolled

[charred flower]

She was waiting for one person, besides her sisters, that wouldn't se her in a sexual way and literally see her eye to eye and not her boobs

[hazy turret]

Being a feminist icon is a specific thing, you can’t just call a female character that just because she exists as a woman lol

[grand flower]

She’s a feminist icon because her character and her story depicts the experience, the truth of what it does to women, and also the correct solution to handling it

[trim lily]

ironically that wouldve been the first thing luffy saw of her considering where he ended up

[hazy turret]

Call that something else then

[grand flower]

No, it’s because her story is actually a productive depiction and response to that lived experience

[charred flower]

Well, he just saw the marks

[grand flower]

Hell naw

[shadow knoll]

hancock is a feminist but one of those woke ones that hate men

[charred flower]

Because...

[grand flower]

Hancock’s story is a direct response to the systemic and sociological plights of women

How is that not a feminist icon

[grand flower]

The correct response at that

[hazy turret]

No it isn’t, hancock has issues and traumas she needs to work through. Lashing out on people, even other women, isn’t productive and is in fact damaging to her

[charred flower]

Ppl who het triggered when something is labeled "feminist"

[trim lily]

im invisible to shuron but i dont think hancock is working to help or improve the plight women face

[grand flower]

That is also what these experiences do to women

[hazy turret]

I know you’re not talking about me

[charred flower]

She's the empress of women's island

[hazy turret]

Shuron do you think a feminist is just any woman?

[grand flower]

I’ve seen women talk about how they have to be much colder and tougher with men because of times when they let their guard down and end up significantly hurt by men who seemed trustworthy

[grand flower]

I think talking about what sociological conditions do to women and how we should respond to that for the betterment of women is feminism

[trim lily]

yeah but in turn shes just isolated herself and them from the entire world to the point most of them dont even know what a man really is

[shadow knoll]

i gotta say shuron, i don't think you fully know what feminism means

[charred flower]

We can say a woman fighting for her freedom and is also the empress of a women's kingdom is a feminist icon, but she's also a douchebag

[shadow knoll]

hancock's initial arrogance and reliance on beauty contrast with traditional feminist ideals

[sage temple]

[honest garden]

Hancock is closer to a foid icon ngl

[alpine trench]

“Traditional feminist ideals”

[trim lily]

i dont know enough about feminism to really debate this topic lol

[thick mango]

What is foid

[honest garden]

Rude but gets away with everything because she's beautiful

[hot cairn]

how do you know if you’re blocked?

[shadow knoll]

okay my wording should be better there

[honest garden]

Something incels call women they don't like

[trim lily]

you cant add reactions to their messages

[hazy turret]

Okay but nothing about Hancock’s story or character is about the betterment of women, gender equality is not something that’s been brought up with her at all. Again, you can make a better case for BM than hancock.

[hot cairn]

thanks

[charred flower]

Ew

[hazy turret]

This is like calling a woman billionaire ceo a feminist icon

[thick mango]

What is the connotation supposed to be? Like you're saying she represents that kind of straw man that would exist in that type of persons mind

[honest garden]

If you take Hancock's character too seriously she's not a very good person lol

[hazy turret]

She has nothing to do with feminism, she’s just a woman who is thinking about herself

[trim lily]

hasnt she turned amazons to stone

[honest garden]

She's an icon for evil, self centered women lol

[grand flower]

No it doesn’t because women taking advantage of beauty standards for their survival is also a feminist school of thought lol

[thick mango]

Yeah she was ready to kill her own people as a weird power move

[grand flower]

That’s absolutely wrong LMAO Hancock acts the way she acts to protect her people

[hazy turret]

Yes lmao

[charred flower]

She's the empress of Amazon Lily and she's keeping others at bay so they don't suffer what she suffered... wth

[honest garden]

A woman who crushed other women out of anger is a feminist icon in the sense that it shows women can be as evil as men

[thick mango]

Did she turn her subjects to stone out of a desire to protect her subjects? I don't think I buy that

[grand flower]

Nope, she was gonna kill them for letting a man in

Something Hancock viewed as an inexcusable danger to the kuja

[hazy turret]

The same people she abuses

[grand flower]

YES

That’s why it was a crime

[trim lily]

but isnt it implied anyone who sees their backs is also turned to stone

given the gorgon myth

[distant vine]

She had a lot of fun doing that it seems

[grand flower]

They exposed the island to a danger

[thick mango]

They were victims of circumstance they didn't invite him in

[honest garden]

So luffys actions were wrong in saving her?

[grand flower]

Men are outlawed on AL cuz the first men Hancock met enslaved her

[honest garden]

We know

[charred flower]

Because they broke the law in a world were you literally can become a slave and take you off your ship if you see to the other side

[trim lily]

i guess them not killing luffy on sight is as bad

[grand flower]

She viewed men as inherently dangerous

[honest garden]

(also that's not the entire reason)

[thick mango]

They tried didn't they? I don't remember the arc very well

[trim lily]

at first but then they just let him in i think

[honest garden]

I think they didn't know what he was

[trim lily]

oh right

they didnt know he was a man

[shadow knoll]

first of all wanting an all female society should already be a proof that she isn't a feminist, she just hates men

[trim lily]

they did still defend him later though

in hancock's eyes she views that as a betrayal

[grand flower]

Luffy giving Hancock the space to be vulnerable and approaching her as a person and not an object of desire are depictions of what feminism has pushed for the betterment of women

[thick mango]

I don't buy the depiction of boa as actually wisely altruistic towards her people I think she's a tyrant at worst and foolish at best when we first meet her

[trim lily]

yeah

[stray pulsar]

Hancock isn’t a feminist, but she is a well written female character that addresses how women are judged a lot on their looks.

[shadow knoll]

yeah that's actually more accurate

[honest garden]

Also Hancock turns into a soggy wet noodle at the sight of Luffy

[alpine trench]

Hancock is the last person you might call a feminist, whether it be second or third wave

[grand flower]

The problem with this reading is that Hancock isn’t a “douchebag” because shes just a bad person

Hancock resorts to cruelty because shes experienced cruelty and that’s her trauma response to ensure her people are safe from it

Hancock is a symptom, not the sickness, just like women who have to resort to unsavory or cruel pathways to survive under patriarchy are a symptom

[trim lily]

and empresses in amazon lily are also dependent on a man requiting their love or else they die (sometimes?)

[hazy turret]

Again, she’s just a woman who has persevered despite hardships she faces because she’s a woman. Being a feminist icon would mean she’s a character who let that motivate her to fight for gender equality

[honest garden]

At what point do her actually one become her own

[shadow knoll]

so kill women to protect women...yeah...

[grand flower]

This is straight up contradictory to the exposition that tells us it’s EXACTLY this

[mighty shell]

god forbid women have hobbies

[grand flower]

It’s cruel but it’s pragmatic

[grand flower]

Huh?

[thick mango]

Amazon lily would have been brutally massacred if not for rayleigh . How is shutting out all men wise?

[distant vine]

I think she does care

[charred flower]

There is also the concept of "patriarchal feminism" where the idea of fighting the mainstream culture become so rigid that they reproduce the system they were fighting in the first place

[distant vine]

She's just also tyrannical is all

[honest garden]

It's pretty tyannical to put your own citizens to death without trial

[grand flower]

You thought I was saying shes a feminist in atory? No bruh I’m saying Hancock as a character and her narrative are feminist

[thick mango]

The rule isn't even a good rule it's an overaction to personal experience which I would call an example of poor leadership

[charred flower]

Can Hancock be seen as a feminist icon? yes Is she a feminist? Probably no

[grand flower]

I’m talking about the policy and the execution stemming from a desire to protect the country

[forest forum]

So half the community now really thinks Zoro=Sanji.
Ngl that's bs

[trim lily]

awesome segway

[distant vine]

True that is more fun

[shadow knoll]

*segue

[trim lily]

stupid word

[grand flower]

Yeah I wasn’t saying she is a feminist

[distant vine]

Sanji can be equal as soon as he lands a hit on Kaido

[thick mango]

Strict adherence to that policy would have led to an unspeakable massacre at the hands of vasco and Devon two years later. The policy is bad

[grand flower]

That’s not what I’m arguing about

[forest forum]

Sanji can be equal as soon as he shows he's capable

[trim lily]

dont worry he'll get acoc or whatever this arc

somehow

[charred flower]

Not enough huh?

[forest forum]

Yeah ngl I thought the narrative kinda made it clear that both Sanji and Zoro aren't equal to each other in strength and/or power

[hazy turret]

If that’s the case then so can the majority of the other female characters

[hot cairn]

you guys go from feminism debates to Sanji vs Zoro

[trim lily]

natural transition

[thick mango]

She was ready to put her citizens to death without trail for failing to adhere to a unwise policy. Is that not a tyrant?

[grand flower]

I’m arguing about the motivation for it to be the protection of the country as a whole

[stray pulsar]

Will Sanji ever grow up and kick a woman?

[grand flower]

That’s growing up to ya?

Hurting women?

[charred flower]

We were talking about her as an icon, not about her specific ideology on how she applies the laws of Amazon Lily

[thick mango]

I guess all I'm saying is she's a bad leader when we land on Amazon lily.

[distant vine]

Funny cause they both passed out in Wano

[forest forum]

Zoro did more in Egghead ngl, he fought S-Hawk, Kaku, Lucci, Nosjuro
And Sanji never fought Saturn btw he froze the entire time I think

[grand flower]

Who woke up

[alpine trench]

He would regress if this is what defines as growing up

[distant vine]

The one who did less work

[grand flower]

Sanji passed out because of how much stamina he exerted

Zoro passed out cause he got his ass whooped

[forest forum]

Robot built for fighting vs Lost green hair guy who trains everyday btw

[sturdy steeple]

Will Sanji ever grow up one centimetre longer to become equal with Zoro

[stray pulsar]

Sanji thinking of women as equals would be character development. I don’t think it will happen but he would be a less sexist person

[grand flower]

Sanji doesnr avoid hitting women becausw he thinks of them as inferior

[stray pulsar]

One Piece has static characters and that’s fine

[forest forum]

Unfortunately that wouldn't make him grow up

[grand flower]

He avoids kicking them because he doesn’t want to

[forest forum]

By whom?

[grand flower]

King literally walked his ass down

Multiple times

[hot cairn]

“One Piece has static characters”

get a load of this guy

[grand flower]

It does

[distant vine]

Also Mink Medicine was in play Shuron

You cant ignore that

[grand flower]

OP is more about how the world changes in relation to them

[grand flower]

He was passing out after king regardless

[distant vine]

Conjecture

[stray pulsar]

This guy gets it

[hot cairn]

mmm

[distant vine]

[forest forum]

Yeah ngl King is built different
I'm using the Lunarian excuse here, Sanji would've found it VERY difficult to combat King

[thick mango]

I don't think sanji is ever getting over the I'll never hit a woman thing even though i do agree it's kinda sexist, not treating them as equals. The wano robin thing shows we can just have the team cover this quirk

[somber flare]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-elizabello-one-piece-elisabello-one-piece-king-punch-one-piece-pica-one-piece-gif-24812110

The only king I know

[forest forum]

This guy is peak

[stray pulsar]

Sanji not fighting women is actually a good trait for him to have. All of the crew have their quirks

[hot cairn]

using acoc btw

[stray pulsar]

He would be too competent if he didn’t get distracted all the time

[dense haven]

so true

[sturdy steeple]

Sanji doesn’t think of women as “lesser beings”, he thinks them of them as literal Goddesses. That’s the opposite of sexism, lol.

[grand flower]

Most of the time, dynamic characters from other stories become as fleshed out as OP characters just start out as

[olive sigil]

I wish he joined the grand fleet. Oda really messed up

[thick mango]

I don't think it's noble but yeah it's good in the sense that it makes sense for his character

[dense haven]

oda has to nerf sanji because he would be the best strawhat otherwise

[grand flower]

Oda is more about unveiling than he is about adding

[dense haven]

cant have him outshine luffy

[hot cairn]

I thought he meant it as an insult

[stray pulsar]

Static characters aren’t a bad thing

[grand flower]

Nah static has a negative connotation because people think dynamic=good cause video essays told them that

[hot cairn]

LOL

that’s true

[charred flower]

Sure

[somber flare]

Sanji did fuck all during Egghead

Hope it stays that way

[ruby moat]

nah

[thick mango]

He let vp die

[olive sigil]

Static electricity is fun. So it’s not always negative

[charred flower]

VP asked him to die

[somber flare]

Big surprise that the top 2 arcs in one piece is when Sanji doesn’t do shit and one where Sanji isn’t there at all

[forest forum]

What did Sanji do then?

[somber flare]

Seeing a pattern here

[ruby moat]

him letting vp die was tanking a point blank kick from kizaru and dropping the elderly man he was holding in the process

[thick mango]

That was his job, he failed. The fact that vp was 4d chessing it was irrelevant to the present moment

[ruby moat]

if only jinbei was there as another asset on the battlefield

[dense haven]

I love how people are pinning this on sanji like luffy wasn't also there

[sturdy steeple]

It was Luffy’s job to defend him too. Are we gonna blame him? Especially after we find out that VP wanted to die no matter what. He chose to stay in the epicentre.

[trim lily]

zoro needed his babysitting

[thick mango]

Luffy delegated he's supposed to be able to trust his people to handle jobs like that

[dense haven]

luffy too busy laughin his ass off

[dense haven]

delegated him to do what exactly

[charred flower]

Zoro would've died if bot for Jinbe and Sanji, Mars would've murdered him

[fallen meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/sanji-kizaru-bonney-one-piece-sanji-vs-kizaru-gif-4579299412444402688

[ruby moat]

He was carrying an elderly dying old man and got kicked point blank by the man made of light while doing so. I don't rly hold it against him that he dropped the dude he was carrying

[fallen meteor]

his face is so funny ngl

[dense haven]

luffy was supposed to stop kizaru and he didn't

[sturdy steeple]

Luffy was the one doing all the fighting there. How would Sanji defend himself while carrying a person who was bleeding out to death?

[dense haven]

luffy be like "sanji run away carrying a body while I do nothing and watch kizaru get your ass"

[sturdy steeple]

And that’s, again, after ignoring that Vegapunk chose to stay there. He chose death himself.

[hot cairn]

what are those arcs?

[ruby moat]

VP telling him to leave him behind as its happening lol

[shadow knoll]

thank god toei animated this well

[charred flower]

While trying to defend Boney and cordinating all the crew so they could arrive to a safe place even before the giants arrived

[thick mango]

Maybe you right and kizaru just can't reasonably be stopped

[shadow knoll]

i didn't think tehy would animate his face like in the manga

[sturdy steeple]

Sanji honestly did so much shit in this arc that it’s insane to call him out on doing nothing. Not the same arc we are talking about I suppose.

[somber flare]

“Made Kizaru shit himself for the first time in the series”

Absolutely no bias from the person making this looks like

[dense haven]

the entire crew was clowning in egghead

[somber flare]

Marineford and Egghead are my top 2 arcs

[charred flower]

Were comparing Sanji to Gear 5 Luffy in this specific task, both let Kizaru go through

[dense haven]

jinbe carrying boxes, sanji carrying corpses, zoro playing with lucci, luffy laughing his ass off, robin sleeping, and the other strawhats just doing nothing like usual

[thick mango]

Jaya is a top tier arc

[forest forum]

I was gonna put up an argument but then realized you'll try by all means to just prove me wrong so I'll stop

[forest forum]

Their bounty will increase btw

[olive sigil]

Don’t forget to call out Franky

Bro’s been slacking off since dressrosa

[forest forum]

Hey, Franky slander shouldn't be a thing fr

[olive sigil]

He’s had it too easy

[forest forum]

Holy crap, General Franky didn't even show up in one of the only Robot themed arcs

[somber flare]

Yeah egghead was really just the luffy show tbh

[trim lily]

franky didnt show up in one of the robot themed arcs

he had a grand total of 4 lines with vegapunk

his idol whom he visited the lab of in the timeskip

[dense haven]

and one of the lines is vegapunk slandering him lmaoooo

frankys arc

[thick mango]

Franky built the ship he's done his part already. Anything on top of that is extra

[olive sigil]

He deserves it

[forest forum]

Yeah I'm taking this

[forest forum]

Wait wot

[somber flare]

Wano wasn’t Zoro’s arc
Egghead wasn’t Franky’s arc

Tick tock Usopp

[sturdy steeple]

Well, VP is still in this arc so there’s that

Elbaf, that is

[forest forum]

Vegapunk (Lilith)

[trim lily]

you would think franky would be the perfect person to confront vegapunk on the topic of the pacifistas/seraphim considering his past was related to the responsibility of the builder for what they create

[charred flower]

I mean, it's the first and only time we see Kizaru do this and then question the laws of physic

[thick mango]

So disappointed this never came up

[olive sigil]

Franky has been running around Elbaf with a married woman looking at art

[forest forum]

Ussop is gonna be a bum as per usual

[hot cairn]

I thought you loved Franky

[dense haven]

WANJI

[olive sigil]

You think Oda remembers that

[charred flower]

Welcome to "having an argument"

[thick mango]

We got a shitty traitor mystery instead of digging into most of vp's ethical issues

[trim lily]

yeah true

[hot cairn]

I’m so freaking surprised this didn’t happen

[sturdy steeple]

He’s in no position to do that though, I see no correlation whatsoever.

[trim lily]

well the topic didnt come up at all so it makes sense why he wouldnt

wish it did though!

[olive sigil]

I do, it’s just been too long. He’s felt like a tourist for a while now. Specially in Elbaf

[trim lily]

go forth my WMD child soldiers, have fun with the WG

[thick mango]

No one confronts vp about making the seraphim to be genetic slaves being an evil act

[charred flower]

Also the flashback doesn't help in giving the SH Crew some time to develop

[sturdy steeple]

Dressrosa is probably the last arc where I thoroughly enjoyed Franky

[forest forum]

No having an "argument" is the two individuals sharing their takes, understanding one another and responding with said understanding of each other's respective statements
You wanted us to have a "debate" my good man

[forest forum]

I enjoy Franky every arc ngl

[lofty fern]

While it's still Christmas, Merry Christmas all and to all a good night 🎄

[sturdy steeple]

Merry Christmas!

[somber flare]

The straw hats don’t have to do anything special for me to enjoy them. I’m fine with them just being there.

[charred flower]

You shared a flawed argument, I showed you why it was flawed, then you stopped before considering anything

[trim lily]

merry boxing day to those in est

[somber flare]

It’s Boxing Day who am I fighting

[tidal ice]

christmas merry to you too

[prisma idol]

My discord keeps telling me of you changing your status

[trim lily]

you can disable it

[alpine trench]

It’s the opposite

[trim lily]

i dont know why some people get notified for status changes now

[somber flare]

How does that work

Why would anyone get a notification for anyone changing their status

[sturdy steeple]

They do?!

[tidal ice]

they just send phone notifications for status updates

[trim lily]

i got it for someone a few days ago and it just sends a push notif for their new status

[forest forum]

You didn't show me how my argument was flawed, you went out of your way to prove everything i said wrong, while I am biased coz I'm a Zoro fan I'll give you credit for trying to point that out

[sturdy steeple]

What the hell, discord

[somber flare]

For who?

[olive sigil]

The thing that I miss is I don’t remember him struggling with anything since dressrosa. It’s nice that he’s cool and collected nowadays, he wasn’t afraid of Linlin, that was cool, but he’s not been challenged

[prisma idol]

Why that of all things

[somber flare]

Friends?

[trim lily]

yeah friends

[ruby moat]

Disxord loves rolling out shit ass updates nobody wants while still not making a block system that does what ppl want

[tidal ice]

they want you to stay up to date on your friends ❤️

[somber flare]

Am I friends with anyone here

[trim lily]

if you go to notifications and scroll to the bottom on mobile you can disable status notifications

[forest forum]

Not really, If having a debate doesn't mean trying to prove the other person wrong, then what's the point?

[forest forum]

Yeah you are

[hot cairn]

agreed

[prisma idol]

Meek

[stray pulsar]

Do y’all think SH vs BB is before or after Laugh Tale?

[trim lily]

at laughtale

or just before

[stray pulsar]

I am leaning towards lodestar

[tidal ice]

incoming "oda will end the series when they find the op"
nah

[charred flower]

I mean... it's not everything, just the idea you mentioned in the beginning, and that's how arguments works.. but I get I was a bit "agresive" by showing you that with the memes

[somber flare]

I guess none of mine have ever changed their status then lol

[shadow knoll]

how are we gonna be fighting even after OP over

[trim lily]

only ones you talk to apparently

[charred flower]

Well, Sasaki did... uhmm some stuff

[stray pulsar]

It will be a summarized fight in the epilogue

[shadow knoll]

[charred flower]

It all depends if Laughtale has the one piece or just the means to get the one piece

[olive sigil]

The second Franky stood out of the shogun it was over. But maybe that’s just me not liking sasaki, I’m very biased. I wasn’t a fan of that fight. He did a bit more than the vice admiral I guess

[forest forum]

Look I'm not a guy who's good at this, just trying my best
Shouldn't have backed out from my Statement that's weak
Sorry for being the average Zoro stan

[charred flower]

Dont worry

[shadow knoll]

roger said OP in laughtale

[trim lily]

yeah its there

defeats the purpose if it isnt

[charred flower]

Yeah, I'm more interested in Franky as an engineering pro than as a fighter, hopefully now that VP is near us he'll get some new chances

And hopefully he can make the Sunny a mecha

That's a must

[next axle]

ok

[ruby moat]

i think he probably made the sunny in a way that itll be able to be integrated or upgraded further all the way into pluton

[shadow knoll]

i don't think they even get pluton

the three weapons will be with 3 groups

luffy gets poseidon

bb gets pluton after breaking the walls of wano with his df power

and imu gets uranus

[ruby moat]

franky may build another pluton tho

im not talking about the wano one i mean a new one

[shadow knoll]

nah not happening

[charred flower]

I agree, but IMO BB should get Poseidon, since Luffy at some point has to go to FMI and destroy it, and I guess that will be fighting BB to save Shirahoshi

[olive sigil]

I think the next step for him is building the upgraded sunny. The black ship you need to get to laugh tale

[charred flower]

Upgrade = mecha?

[ruby moat]

i think franky memorized the blueprints

[olive sigil]

Black sunny

[shadow knoll]

wdym by destroy it?

[charred flower]

He probably did

[shadow knoll]

destroy what?

[charred flower]

Madams Shirley premonition, a man with a straw hat will destroy Fishmen Island

[shadow knoll]

i don't think you can just build pluton willy nilly

defeats the whole purpose of having 3 big ancient weapons

[olive sigil]

You need the blueprints and the skills and only one guy in the world can do it

[ruby moat]

franky + vp combo

[tidal ice]

all it means is there were 3 ancient weapons in the past
it does not necessarily mean there will be only 3 weapons of the same caliber in current time

[olive sigil]

Grandpa can rest. Franky has this

[charred flower]

It's probably not willy nilly, if we get to that point I guess Iceburg (whos making water 7 a ship) will also be involved and/or the Galley giants that are probably at Punk hazard

[stray pulsar]

I don’t think they will build another Pluton because they already had a chance to get Pluton in Wano.

They could have just taken it if they wanted it

[charred flower]

There is the argument that Tom used, that if someone evil gets Pluton, they should be able to build one too

[stray pulsar]

True. I have faith that the allies in Wano will keep it safe though

[shadow knoll]

then pluton would have been the blueprints of the ship instead of the actual ship

[shadow knoll]

idk the plot seems too fast for all dat to happen

[charred flower]

It could go either way tbh, since Luffy has to fight BB and he would go and defend wano and/or FMI

[shadow knoll]

[thick mango]

I think part of the reason for the shanks barto thing is to remind the reader of the necessary response to a threat on your territory, demonstrated by luffys idol

[olive sigil]

There was no reason. That shit is still unacceptable

Yasopp will pay for that

[thick mango]

You crazy they got off easy

To do nothing would put everyone under shanks protection at risk

It wasn't harmless mayhem barto hurt innocent people

[dense haven]

this aint a playground

[olive sigil]

So instead you kill an innocent bystander?

[dense haven]

its time barto faced consequences

[olive sigil]

Barto you can kill

But he killed the going Luffy sempai

[ruby moat]

😔

[olive sigil]

That was the best ship in the series

[ruby moat]

rest in peace.

[olive sigil]

[cosmic hamlet]

Isn't barto dead?

[dense haven]

shanks is really the herald of FAFO

[ruby moat]

unknown but unlikely

[shadow knoll]

man yall do dumb

[cosmic hamlet]

All kidd is dead believers must believe barto is dead too since its the same scenario

[charred flower]

Barto might be a fool, but he's not innocent, what he did is basically a coup and even if it's on Luffys name, it was stupid; but he is probably alive and caged with Kid somewhere

[shadow knoll]

he didn't die

[olive sigil]

Was the message you attacked my village so we’ll kill your innocent friend?

[shadow knoll]

barto, law, kidd, big mom, kaido all are alive

[cosmic hamlet]

Yeah ace and wb also alive

[charred flower]

Law is 100% alive, already confirmed

[olive sigil]

Barto is not innocent. The going Luffy sempai is

[cosmic hamlet]

Yeah only law is confirmed alive

Rest all dead RIP

[thick mango]

Law 100%
Barto 90%
Kid 60%
Big mom 30%
Kaido 5%

[shadow knoll]

😭 check fandom wiki bruh

[olive sigil]

Law is in the middle of the ocean with a hungry polar bear that holds his life between his paws. He’s pretty much dead

[tidal ice]

law 100%
barto 100%
kid 100%
big mom 50%
kaido 50%

[cosmic hamlet]

My word >>>>> wiki

[charred flower]

I honestly hope all are alive, Kidd, BM and Kaido should have lasting wounds and be nerfed, but alive

[cosmic hamlet]

What about law crew other than bepo?

[olive sigil]

@charred flower come here

[thick mango]

I really hope big mom and kaido are dead but I don't wanna get into it for the 10th time

[ruby moat]

https://tenor.com/view/moment-of-silence-pay-respect-rip-rest-in-peace-bow-gif-15963301

[shadow knoll]

Oda wouldn't ever kill characters like that

[thick mango]

I think they're prisoners of bb

[cosmic hamlet]

What about killer?

[olive sigil]

Why did you react to the post talking about the going Luffy sempai’s death

[shadow knoll]

he never has never will

[cosmic hamlet]

Wait really?

[tidal ice]

yeah they are a bit too powerful to casually bring back 😔 would require a bit of setup

[olive sigil]

I hope Jean Bart is finally free from the shackles

[thick mango]

Why wouldn't they be? They were in full rout. They're useful as slaves or leverage. Maybe not all of them but at least some of them

[tidal ice]

100% alive

[olive sigil]

I wonder if they’re celebrating that they’re free from law finally

[charred flower]

Edit:
Eustass Maid (new sword magnetic polisher of the red hair pirates) 100%

[cosmic hamlet]

Oh so its speculation, most likely but not confirmed right?

[thick mango]

Correct yeah this is what I think no confirmation

[cosmic hamlet]

Kidd died but killer survived

[olive sigil]

Now that they’re with teach, the heart pirates will finally be allowed to wear normal clothing and get out of their prison submarine

[charred flower]

I wouldn't mind if Kidd died, 1 less "Useless" character for Oda to consider... but we all know Oda

[olive sigil]

Unfortunately Kidd isn’t a father

Oda only kills parents

[cosmic hamlet]

What role kidd will play if he is alive?

[tidal ice]

magnet boi

[cosmic hamlet]

If he comes back then i want a story where its related to plot, don't bring him back just for the sake of it

[charred flower]

Passes the butter to Shanks

[ruby moat]

a similar role to law

[olive sigil]

Nothing?

[ruby moat]

idk maybe

[olive sigil]

Maybe him and law can move to the south blue and play with Bepo

[cosmic hamlet]

Law is a D and has a role in the story. I want something like that for kidd related to story/plot to come back

[charred flower]

Law has the eternal life surgery plot line, the poneglyph plot line and he's a D

[thick mango]

Very unclear that's why I think there's a realistic chance he's dead. Still bc oda more likely alive than dead.
Bm and kaido are dead because they're old gen need to be cleared out of the way for new gen. The only reason it's ambiguous is because we don't want to make it overly direct that our heroes are murderers

[olive sigil]

Big mom and Kaido were killed because they were both parents

[cosmic hamlet]

All i want is, if he is going to come back atleast have a story for him and involve him in the plot. Rather than bringing him back for another punching bag session

[charred flower]

Kidd on the other hand... is basically the Shikki/Moriah of this generation, hated by most, defeated by many, powerful in his peak, but unable to reach the top, supports or opposes the true conquerors

[cosmic hamlet]

Kidd is luffy without plot armor, as said by kidd fans

[charred flower]

He'll probably be seen as support in the final war I guess

[thick mango]

I think if he died there that was a complete story. If he is alive, I want his loss to change him a lot. Maybe his crew being dead could facilitate that.
If he just dusts himself off, builds a new ship, and picks up where he left off, I'll be very disappointed

[shadow knoll]

If Oda kills character, it's declared in the world of One Piece through Morgan

Unless its declared, they aren't dead

[charred flower]

Nah, he's a violent guy, it's Shikki without Rocks

[cosmic hamlet]

Yeah, he needs to change. Not much but few small changes can give refreshing perspective

[shadow knoll]

also law and his crew escaped

[thick mango]

Law and bepo escaped we don't know his crew did

In fact I think it was implied they didn't

[cosmic hamlet]

Come on, its not like luffy didn't challenge kaido recklessly. Same was done by kidd to shanks.

He is a little bit different version of luffy where he is not all good. He is half good and half evil type shit.

[charred flower]

For BM there are plot points to be elaborated, her flashback and Pudding... my biggest cope for her is that Zeus is still alive with Nami, but when mother caramel died, her Himmie dissappeared

[shadow knoll]

tha's possible

[cosmic hamlet]

All i can say is, look at moriah who got defeated by kaido and lost all moral.

And look at kidd who lost to beckmann but still came back and gave a fight.

[charred flower]

I mean that Luffy befriends a lot of ppl and those ppl end up being the "plot armor" he needs. Kidd is just unlikable and because of that his adventures end up with him without an arm, jailed or at the bottom of the ocean

[thick mango]

Ignore sc2 this implies the crew was left behind

[cosmic hamlet]

Thats what I'm saying too, he is luffy without plot armor. Luffy is all good where as kidd is half good and half evil. I don't think we are disagreeing our points much

[charred flower]

So, Star Craft players are building Pluton for Laws crew... interesting

[thick mango]

Katakuri can save pudding, he's directly responsible for losing her.

[olive sigil]

I’d like for him to double down on his warpath. He’s a headstrong character and he should continue to be that if he’s alive. I don’t want him to stop and think. Specially if they’re dead. I don’t want to see him sulking or having a new perspective on life. I want him to be out for blood. Go on a warpath and aim for shank’s head

[shadow knoll]

look after lulusia and half of gv surviving thanks to kuma, i hv understood Oda is scared to kill characters unless its absolutely necessary

[cosmic hamlet]

Katakuri can fight aokiji when luffy crew face bb crew

[charred flower]

Kidd Isn't half good, at most he is half "I'll take care of my crew but will kill inocents if they look me funny"

[shadow knoll]

if i was Oda i would have at least a dozen more important characters by now

[cosmic hamlet]

Katakuri is too good to get swept away with new power system. He needs to come back with a bang like crocodile

[charred flower]

That's a character I want to see again... with ACoC

[thick mango]

If you want katakuri to grow into a greater role bm needs to be dead imo

[charred flower]

Or confronted and one upped

[cosmic hamlet]

You are saying he is not half good and giving examples of his half evil side. He has a good side too

[thick mango]

I don't think laws crew is dead I think they're bb prisoners. Imo that will be what motivates a coalition of sword, bmp, law, and others to attack bb

[cosmic hamlet]

Even if she is not dead, as long as she doesn't come back to the story. There are lot of such characters who are not dead but never involved in the story nor we got any update

[cosmic hamlet]

I wonder who all will involve when luffy vs bb happens because bb screwed with lot of people and they all want a piece of it

[charred flower]

I can't seem to remember anything good from him, and I'm not talking about him saying he cares, but actions

[thick mango]

He makes enemies everywhere he goes continuing the trend of being similar but opposite to luffy

[cosmic hamlet]

[prisma yacht]

Morning

[thick mango]

Night

[cosmic hamlet]

I'm going back and forth between law vs aokiji and katakuri vs aokiji

Law vs aokiji would be a good fight too

[charred flower]

IMO in terms of evil, Kidd is very similar to BB

[cosmic hamlet]

Maybe

[olive sigil]

You just exposed yourself as a raid shadow legends fan

[shadow knoll]

a coalition, ehhhhh...I don't know

[tidal ice]

you too you recognized what that was

Is that game any good? youtubers keep advertising it

[thick mango]

Sc2 is a 15 year old game now. It's for old people

[olive sigil]

Because if you watch any video from 2020 to 2023 they would have adds for that game

[charred flower]

I have Star Craft 1 on my PC

[cosmic hamlet]

This you?

[thick mango]

Nah that's the guy casting the pro game

[charred flower]

I just want to play TCG

[olive sigil]

You could have said yes and catfish people

[cosmic hamlet]

Game looks mid

[charred flower]

It's a really good game if you like the gameplay

[thick mango]

It's the best rts but rts is an unpopular genre

[olive sigil]

Every game in that genre looks the same to me

[cosmic hamlet]

Yeah

[olive sigil]

I prefer hay day

[charred flower]

Age Of Empires, Star Craft, Age Of Mythology, Warcraft, had like 1000hrs on each game

[thick mango]

I still play sc2 sometimes but I watch more than I play

[silent crypt]

guys will tcb drop 1170 this week. i know officials are not gonna come. I know spoilers are out and i am scaed to open any social media

[dense haven]

feeso said the chapter will be out in 2 hours

[charred flower]

Yes

[silent crypt]

Hell yeah i was scared of getting spoiled

[thick mango]

That's a lie probably

Broken clock right twice a day i guess but chapter probably not coming out in 2 hr

[charred flower]

Not in 2 hrs, but this week yeah

[silent crypt]

Like today or tomorrow its gonna come right?

[charred flower]

If we have spoilers, means someone has the chapter

[silent crypt]

Yes i remeber similar stuff happening last year as well

[charred flower]

Not sure, normally after the short spoiler is published, it's 2 more days to the large spoilers and then 1-2 more days for the scans

So I'd say Monday

Could be later, could be sooner

We can't talk about that here

[shadow knoll]

how old are you

[charred flower]

So plz any info about spoilers go to the spoiler section

Anything besides the days/schedule could get you a ban

But if you don't want to get spoiled.. you should pick other topic

[silent crypt]

No i havent seen the spoilers itself i just know they are out

[prisma yacht]

Guys

Is there any chance of it being the Nika fruit?

[trim lily]

decent chance

[silent crypt]

I don't think so personally

[trim lily]

yeah its a bit harder to justify loki just not eating it somehow

[prisma yacht]

but then since xebec wanted this fruit

and he didn't know about Nika

[shadow knoll]

don't you already know the answer?

[prisma yacht]

don't even mention spoilers here shoyu

[shadow knoll]

[silent crypt]

Dont ruin it dude

[shadow knoll]

nah i won't

[silent crypt]

btw who is Garp's father

[prisma yacht]

https://x.com/i/status/2003806595982164452

まーぼどうふ (@maaboodoofuuuu)

𐂂𖠰 \ ᴍᴇʀʀʏ ᴄʜʀɪsᴛᴍᴀs / ꊛ໋̝❅

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X · Dec 24, 2025, 12:34 PM

[shadow knoll]

me

[olive sigil]

Do you read spoilers or is this a guess

[dense haven]

people already spoiled that shit in chat

thats what happens when spoilers are 1 week before the chapter and counting

[silent crypt]

Alright i am leaving then

[shadow knoll]

i read a spoilers of some chapter just before egghead anime started in april i think i don't remember which one

[olive sigil]

It’s still annoying to see it. I don’t even want to read the chapter anymore

[olive sigil]

Oh ok that comment just makes it sound really sus

[cosmic hamlet]

Shanks haki knot meme is the next big thing. Invest before it goes sky rocket

[shadow knoll]

[prisma yacht]

Boooo

[cosmic hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-cat-gif-25910152

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-cat-funny-smile-happy-gif-4163740030726237429

[trim lily]

[steel stirrup]

You be lying i need to see the message

[runic dock]

And god of war tbh , with Harald’s looks

[shadow knoll]

hope oda doesn't get bedridden 😭

[sage temple]

Just watched F1 best movie oat

[dense haven]

fantastic 1

[brittle peak]

chapter this week?

[dense haven]

2 hours

[brittle peak]

2 hours from?

[ruby moat]

Yes

[shadow knoll]

you said 2 hours ,1 hour ago

https://tenor.com/view/i-know-what-kind-of-man-you-are-moist-i-know-what-kind-of-mand-you-are-gif-4332896312672829230

[sweet kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/jolly-posting-jolly-christmas-merry-ltg-gif-18217581716871329871

[tidal ice]

https://tenor.com/view/jolly-posting-jolly-christmas-merry-grinch-gif-17755034750353054602

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/view/christmas-stocking-coal-ltg-low-tier-god-gif-16894685927343396957

[shadow knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-fill-his-stocking-with-bombsd-bombs-fill-his-stocking-with-bombs-christmas-gif-9317622027084449801

[sleek plume]

https://tenor.com/view/jolly-posting-jolly-christmas-merry-grinch-gif-17262676807992477703

[stray prism]

https://tenor.com/view/jingle-bell-ltg-low-tier-god-gif-2631338676044180620

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-crush-his-skull-naughty-list-naughty-ltg-gif-4715180270582084117

[frail kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/combo-breaker-combo-gif-15109656

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-holiday-special-lumpy-circus-acrobatics-wookie-gif-4454047180457143996

[prisma yacht]

rule no.2 never trust spice

[cosmic hamlet]

What the hell is this spam

[cosmic hamlet]

Lol, not anytime soon

[rose rune]

this just popped up in my feed, and is this why Oda has been using it so much lately?

I've been wondering why he puts the same bluish purple on all of his pictures

etc

[rain cedar]

Isn't this just indigo

Which is very commonly used

[rose rune]

that's probably what it's called

I'm not good with color names

[rain cedar]

Me neither but i thought this was like some new color by this thumbnail lol

[cosmic hamlet]

Same, i call it blue

[rose rune]

I dunno, I feel like Oda tends to force it in even if it doesn't always fit with the other colors

[rose rune]

I would never call it blue when it has so much red in it

[rain cedar]

Yeah, Oda does make some questionable choices imo when it comes to colors at times

[cosmic hamlet]

Are you saying oda is bad at picking colors?

[rose rune]

not always

[trim lily]

he can be rather bizarre sometimes

[cosmic hamlet]

There is red in it?

[rose rune]

yeah

[cosmic hamlet]

I would have agreed with you anyway

[rain cedar]

Say that again

Speaking of color schemes, i dont like gunkos hair

But whatever

[trim lily]

i like the blue

[rain cedar]

I think he did great with rocks and killingham

[cosmic hamlet]

Whats her hair color again?

[trim lily]

i wish it was a bit lighter

[rain cedar]

Blue

[cosmic hamlet]

Gunko hair is blue?

[trim lily]

yeah

i love all the elbaf knights colours so far

[rain cedar]

I don't know why but i thought her hair would be silver/white. I think it'd have paired up nicely with her eyes

[rose rune]

the sentence "just indigo" popped into my head as my eyes looked at this

[trim lily]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/onepiece/images/8/80/Volume_113.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1200?cb=20251020030654

[storm anvil]

Do you not keep up with the news Cyggy?

[cosmic hamlet]

This one?

[cosmic hamlet]

I have a bad memory

[trim lily]

i’ve given up on being a white hair believer

[storm anvil]

Yes

[rain cedar]

There is only one indigo, the rest are all MENTAL illnesses

[trim lily]

i wanted lillith to have white hair and i wanted gunko to

[storm anvil]

Or you just a fake fan smh

[cosmic hamlet]

I probably saw gunko hair color but forgot it i guess

[trim lily]

but i can make due with blue, very glad it wasn’t a lillith

[cosmic hamlet]

[storm anvil]

I don't like rocks having blue colour tho

[rose rune]

some of the indigos were named by color blind Steve

[rain cedar]

[storm anvil]

Gives precedence to the buggy agenda fuck em

[rain cedar]

I think it looks like lightning

[trim lily]

the person who named periwinkle just wanted to stand out

[rain cedar]

Which is really cool

Who cares about buggy smh

[cosmic hamlet]

Not bad i guess, better than what i visualized when i heard blue

[storm anvil]

Black would have been cooler

[cosmic hamlet]

Why is sommers hair orange ewwww

[rose rune]

I care about Buggy, but not in a "he will be the pirate king and related to everyone!!" kind of way

[rain cedar]

For sure it'd match with BB. Genuinely, is BB even rocks son because I don't think Eris has black hair either

[rain cedar]

For real 🙏🏻

[rose rune]

I'm just ready for whatever fuckery Oda does to his character arc

[cosmic hamlet]

Is there a official coloring of killingham with his face?

[rose rune]

no

[cosmic hamlet]

Sad

[rain cedar]

At least his dragon form looks cool

Black/gold is nice

[cosmic hamlet]

I hate sommers more now since he has orange hair

[cosmic hamlet]

Yellow is cool yeah

[rose rune]

that's because he has no soul

[rain cedar]

Ginger discrimination

[rose rune]

in the big 2025

[rain cedar]

[cosmic hamlet]

Its not discrimination, only nami get to have orange hair

Especially people I don't like should not have orange hair

[rose rune]

my hair almost doesn't have any pigments left, so I have to make fun of those with haircolor

when it's completely grey I can start making fun of dark blondes

[cosmic hamlet]

His cloud shouldn't have been white but ig its alright

[rain cedar]

Oh that's interesting

[cosmic hamlet]

[storm anvil]

His genes rearranged

[rain cedar]

Does anyone have a theory why some clouds are black and others are white

[rose rune]

I was dark blonde before my hair started being grey instead

[cosmic hamlet]

Didn't luffy had black in gear 4? And white in gear 5?

[cosmic hamlet]

You are natural blonde?

[rose rune]

white cloud means killingham is a good guy

[rain cedar]

I dont think so. He had steam clouds in G4 right

[rose rune]

yeah

[rain cedar]

[rose rune]

before I got old at least

[rain cedar]

Potential god's knight betrayal

[cosmic hamlet]

Hmm yeah, sometimes white and sometimes pinkish

[cosmic hamlet]

[rose rune]

my nephews are actually proper blonde

and it fits, because they are still stupid

man, children are so dum

[cosmic hamlet]

I'm not dumb when i was a kid

[storm anvil]

[rose rune]

I consider myself smart as a kid compared to others my age, but I was still a dumb little goblin

[storm anvil]

Luffy will unlock gear evil with black clouds

[rain cedar]

Did you see the manuscripts they just released

[rain cedar]

Gear evil was actually a thing 😭

At least for the concept of Snakeman

[storm anvil]

Oh yeah that lmao

[rose rune]

gear evil can still happen. let us pray it does

[storm anvil]

Yeah the snskemen concept design looks very evilish

[rose rune]

when the raid fails

[storm anvil]

Kinda interesting to see

[rain cedar]

The most unrealistic part of this is full body haki returning

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/vergo-one-piece-gif-25423015

[storm anvil]

tf was oda thinking 💔

[rose rune]

actually really funny how the artist decided to make his haki like a wetsuit

[cosmic hamlet]

It would have been fine if he doesn't have that much muscles

[rose rune]

can't have an ugly luffy with a purple face after all

[rain cedar]

genuinely, it's borderline like a power rangers suit with glowing neon scars

[prisma yacht]

Guys

suggest me funny nicknames for Socrates

It's so over for him

https://tenor.com/view/chat-malicieux-chat-malice-gif-3014684048861748660

[rose rune]

did you guys have a bet he lost?

[cosmic hamlet]

This is a manga channel

[prisma yacht]

The bet is if shanks is stronger than loki or not

And I know I'm gonna win

[rose rune]

oh no... socrates....

[prisma yacht]

Nothing to do with spoilers

[cosmic hamlet]

Wait its an official bet?

[rose rune]

I don't think it is

[prisma yacht]

Yeah under zurq

[rose rune]

oh

[cosmic hamlet]

Whats the wager?

[prisma yacht]

Oh wait it's not a server bet

[prisma yacht]

Hop in the spoiler chat bruh

[cosmic hamlet]

There is no server bets, official bet means did you involve mods

[prisma yacht]

Ah

Ok

Yes it's under zurq

[frail kindle]

there might be one... soon

[rose rune]

Tenderloincloth

[cosmic hamlet]

What does wager has to do with spoilers?

Is it nickname change?

[frail kindle]

wait

DO NOT ANSWER THAT QUESTION

[storm anvil]

soc on tese nuts

[cosmic hamlet]

I'm confused but okay lets leave it

[cosmic hamlet]

About?

[rain cedar]

Santa what are you talking about ☹️

[rose rune]

6 years of no wiping

I feel sorry for loki

[prisma yacht]

I don't think we can have nsfw nicknames

[prisma yacht]

Noted

[cosmic hamlet]

What a good boy

[prisma yacht]

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/arthur-fist-arthur-fist-gif-arthur-fist-balled-up-arthur-fist-balled-up-gif-arthur-gif-gif-12329908026355646401

[frail kindle]

Sussynicocadussy

oh wait

I spelled it wrong

sussy nikocadussy

I knew it looked wrong

[cosmic hamlet]

His name itself has it, socrates just read it slowly

[cosmic hamlet]

What does this even mean

[frail kindle]

You don't wanna know

[cosmic hamlet]

Tbh I didn't even understand the screenshot you shared 😭

[alpine trench]

someone reported his account for saying he's 7 years in that screenshot as a joke

so he lost his account

and had to come back with another new account

[frail kindle]

We call it getting cunked

[cosmic hamlet]

Ohhh, i have seen this happen to multiple people

Discord doesn't do much of background check they just suspend and then ask for id prove to remove it

[frail kindle]

Basically yeah

[cosmic hamlet]

I have seen people ask things like what 5+5 and then edit it later to how old are you to report people.

Discord doesn't even check the basic edit function before suspending 😭

[vale heath]

21

[dense haven]

ok thats fucked up lol

remember when the owner got banned for saying hes underage

nobody is safe