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Enel is like the biggest energy providing company in the country
that's not what people complain about when it comes to shakky
I don't know much more about that
Both are instances where a Kuja who falls for a man who treats them with respect in the midst of a literal sea of men who see them only as an object of their desires and lust
I mean most of the complaints center around disliking the fact that she was one of the major driving forces and motivations for Roger and others to take part in god valley, so in some regards it is
I think Enel is way older than One Piece 
and that's where the similarities end lol
Hancock fell for Luffy because, ironically, Luffy telling her he’s disgusted by her is one of the few times a strange man has seen her as a person
And not just something to desire
So what
Yeah he’s 37
That’s…the parallel
The point of their story is the same point of Luffy’s and Hancock’s
Down to Shakky projecting strength against Sommers when shes actually scared and wants to cry
it's not a particularly interesting one and gloriosa's affections towards roger reminded me more of hancock than shakky did
The same way Hancock projects cruelty as a form of strength due to deep trauma
That’s too bad for you
I love it
no it's about her ultimately being a damsel to be saved
It represents a lot of what women talk about in their modern experiences with men
that's what people bring up
I think it’s pretty remarkable Oda put that in his manga given his age and the target demographic
Even gloriosa aging so comedically gets flipped into something women go thru
it's fascinating how moved you are by things that don't interest me at all lol, it's not a bad thing btw
Where in the flashback she talks about how she’s sick of having to maintain beauty regimens to maintain beauty standards
I say this half jokingly
But OP fans deadass should go listen to pretty hurts by Beyoncé
Watch the music video where models eat cotton balls soaked in water because they can’t eat real food
Due to weight standards of the beauty industry
I don’t like pop
Gloriosa talking about how she’s tired of that stuff is VERY real
ppl say oda can’t write female characters
but watch how he cooks with Vivi
Yeah I care about themes
And I care to respect how theyre represented
Hey guys
I care about themes too, just nothing concerning the kuja
what’s good meek
Wsp
That’s too bad for you
Happy xmas eve yall
You’re missing out
merry xmas meeks
Merry Christmas Meek
he can certainly write nami, robin, vivi, even big mom
nice choices
the kuja are just... really bad imo lol
merry xmas
It’s a shame you can’t divide “i didnt care for this” from how theyre written
The fact that Oda’s captured what those lived experiences are so well is good writing regardless of how ya feel about it
I think hancock started well and became a flanderized fangirl for luffy, and I have little to say about either gloriosa or shakky because they ultimately didn't impress me either
And Hancock ans Gloriosa being down bad for men is just a funny flip on how that’s mostly a dynamic written for men
Flanderized is a buzzword
it takes up like half her screentime too, it's so bad
We’ve had this convo before
You ended up admitting you were wrong about Hancock’s character becoming stale
do you like otohime terabyte
i think she’s one of the most underrated female characters in the story
Thanks
lmao what
I pointed out how her relationship with Rayleigh is revealed AFTER she falls for Luffy
merry christmas to YC
And you couldnt refute that
happy birthday yc
Calling her flanderized when we got new dynamics after the point you say she was flancerized
Goes to show she isn’t
shuron you're the same person who thought nami asked kalifa to sit on her lap, I'm not sure I can trust your memory unless you show me proof I said that
We get a new dynamic with a man
Happy Birthday and merry christmas to everyone
You don’t have to believe me
hancock's relationship with rayleigh is nice, it's like one of two things I like about her
We can just do it again rn lol
Her being flanderized would require nothing new to come from her character once the gag with Luffy started
And that’s not true
nah we don't have to, she absolutely is flanderized with how overused her fawning over luffy gag is and her most recent appearance offered nothing new about her
We get the reveal she has a fatherly relationship with Rayleigh
Oh that was a convo with someone named Stranger

Hancock treating Rayleigh like a father was new lol
With Shakky, a Kuja, and her sisters there
She leans on his leg for emotional support
she was shown to be good with rayleigh way back in post-marineford
A man instead
She wasn’t shown to see him in a fatherly way
We don’t see that till Egghead
So you’re just wrong about not getting anything new from her
Again, with several women present
Hancock goes to Rayleigh for physical comfort
A man
lol
That’s a pretty big deal for her character
I mean if that little thing makes you happy, then cool ig but it's a very minor thing for me and doesn't detract from how often oda subjects her to swooning over a man who she'll never have
Little is a non-argument
It’s about what it represents
What you’re doing is saying if it’s subtle or understated, it doesn’t count
You missed a huge opportunity you shouldve just said Stranger then someone asks "what was their name" "Stranger" "yeah WHICH Stranger" "STRANGER" "WHAT WAS THE STRANGERS NAME"
it would be more significant if we didn't already know that hancock liked rayleigh and how he helped her and her sisters in the past
It’s plenty significant as it is
“More significant” is also a buzz word
You can make ANYTHING more pronounced and more emphasized and more significant
just calling anything buzzwords lol
No, it’s because that’s not a real argument
Stranger lopetigui
it's like I can't disagree without my arguments being called buzzwords
is that a scopper future sight panel pfp shuron
You can take ANY piece of writing
tough🔥
And say “there could have been more to it”
If you want that to not be a buzzword you have to describe what it’s actually lacking
and what gives you the right to decide what arguments mean anything and what don't lol
It’s just his look right as he’s about to dive
I’m pretty damn smart
excellent argument, ego
As you can see I quite literally immediately substantiate my point
You’re not pointing out what this development lacks
You’re just saying “it could have been more”
A statement that applies to any piece of writing to ever exist because writers could also write more of that theme or beat or whatever it i
Is*
Regardless of how good it is
You could say TKAM could have focused more on scout and the accused man by reducing scenes of scout ans her brother and putting more scenes of her and the man
you choose to make something significant out of one panel of hancock resting her head on rayleigh's knee when we already knew she's cool with him, and your argument is "it's just significant"
That wouldn’t be a valid criticism
That’s what this is
“It could be more”
So could everything else ever written
No my argument is that Hancock going to a man for physical comfort is significant because she hates men
I’ve watched that movie and have no idea what you’re referring to
I mean it just sounds like you can't accept other people having different standards
It’s significant because there are women she knows that she could have went to but chose a man
It’s significant because it’s the first time we’ve seen her have this outlook on Rayleigh
“Shes cool with him” is one thing
Nami is cool with weatheria man
You wouldn’t say Nami sees weatheria man like a father figure
because genzo exists?
So no, this isn’t what we knew before
I have no idea how she sees them
You can have more than one
Let’s not waste our time here
That whole interaction is weird
wonder if boa has any relationship with shakky, considering her rayleigh connection
Hancook was acting mean to ray bc he was trying to take luffy away u know after marineford
My point is that “Hancock is cool with Rayleigh” and “Hancock sees Rayleigh in a fatherly way” are two VERY different things
we know rayleigh helped the boa sisters when they were young lol, that's why it doesn't feel all that amazing that hancock is shown to be comfortable with him in chapter 1059
Trying to say the latter is an insignificant development because of the former is just incorrect
Also
No, this is just bad
But we didn’t know Hancock saw him like a father figure
and also your fatherly interpretation is technically just an interpretation (valid as it is) because hancock has yet to refer to rayleigh that way lol
You can say this is intuitive to guess because he saved her
But we hadn’t seen it depicted on page until Egghead
Okay
I don’t really care what you call it
"I'm right you're wrong" type of argument
My point is that Hancock showing that she finds a man to be emotionally comforting is significant because
-
She deplores men
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She had women, all Kuja and including her sisters, available for it and she chose the man still
I am quite literally explaining why I said that as we speak
Small moments are still significant
Luffy putting his hat on Nami is a small moment, it only takes one panel to convey
you explained why you find this scene significant, it's not objectively something people have to feel the same way about though especially considering what we already knew of rayleigh being one of only two men hancock didn't look at with disgust
It’s about what we know about the characters that make them significant
Can't believe there's still arguments in chat during chapter week
Thought it'd be dead by now
A panel of Zoro calling Sanji “Sanji” would be significant
Even if it’s just one panel
yeah because it's never happened before
Hancock being emotionally vulnerable with Rayleigh hadnt either
but it doesn't feel as impactful to me because we already knew she was comfortable with him
Hancock also telling Teach “go ahead. Kill me. I dare you I WANT you to” is an interaction we also hadn’t seen before
We’ve never seen a man make Hancock vulnerable as an adult
That was the first time it happened, and we learned then what her response to that is
op fans spending xmas arguing dumb shit you love to see it
No we didn’t
We knew he saved her
such is the yearly tradition on christmas eve
spice you have literally nothing serious to contribute, at least shuron speaks like he actually likes OP lol
From there, like I said, it’s intuitive to GUESS that she feels this way about Rayleigh
No like actually
Spice yoi do this day in and day out like you don’t got shit better to do
Go find a real hobby
This is still the first time it’s actually DEPICTED
You dismissed what I said earlier because it’s interpretation
man it's nice that the moment with rayleigh means this much to you, but it's still such a turn-off to see her first scene being "I want to go marry luffy"
Now you’re saying “well we could already FIGURE this so seeing it canonized doesn’t matter”
Can’t work both ways
and the moment with rayleigh doesn't do enough to detract from how much screentime oda dedicates to that gag
The entire attack on Amazon Lily, she didn’t mention Luffy once
talking about the aftermath scene
Okay
And I’m pointing out that in the vast majority of this flashback, she didn’t mention Luffy once
So your argument that the Luffy gag dominates too much screen time falls apart
We get two new interactions with men from Hancock and Luffy is mentioned for one panel in the midst of it
good that oda has enough sense to not go that far with the gag at least in a serious scene like that, it was still a ridiculously overused gag in the summit war saga
The exact opposite of what you’re describing
That’s why I said your standard is bad
I do not care for how you feel, you can feel whatever way you want
you don't get to decide that for me lol
But when you say “I feel bananas are bad because they’re too spicy,” I’m gonna point out that that makes no sense
not once have I said you're wrong for feeling a certain way but that's what you've been telling me
I think why you feel that way is pretty bad because it doesn’t actually happen
it very much does happen in the summit war saga and one singular chapter 12 years later doesn't absolve everything
We get to see two new sides to Hancock interacting with men
And her Luffy gag is very understated
and her first dialogue in that singular chapter is once again about luffy
Both are those are the exact opposite of what you’re saying happened
And this matters why?
It’s at the end of that plot point
And its one panel
because I think it's a shit gag that made me heavily dislike her by the end of the summit war saga, so I groan whenever I see it
To frame your argument around the premise of
“It happens too much”
And you’re discussing a plot point where it was one panel
This is why I say the standard is bad
You can feel XYZ
But when you say “I feel XYZ because” then start describing something that didn’t happen
You’re gonna probably get scrutiny
again, you're not some authority figure within the world of literature to decide who's standards are good or bad, you're free to disagree within the realm of subjectivity though
This isn’t really about being an authority
I could be wrong
In which case, show me that
What I’m doing is asserting what I think to be true
I see no value in tip toeing language for the sake of manufactured modesty
show you what, the numerous panels of hancock going on and on about luffy in the summit war?
What you’re saying doesnt make sense, I’m going to just assert that
we hatin on hancock?
No, show me that your standard for the egghead flashback is actually sound
If you’re gonna argue Hancock is stale and that the gag takes up too much time, you need to demonstrate how that’s the case for her recent plot point
I’m showing how it’s not, and that’s why I can just assert my point
I can substantiate the things I believe
I think it's sound because I immediately got annoyed when I opened the chapter to see hancock talking about wanting to marry luffy, and that leaves an impression even when I then read her confrontation with blackbeard and so on
Okay so you saw Hancock’s gag and you didn’t like it
That’s not the same as her being flanderized
Well isn't stale a subjective thing. The brook panty gag was stale to me after two instances
oda didn't have to include that dialogue at all and yet he did
Nope
Stale is pretty objectively measurable
What's the threshold then
It means nothing new for the character is happening
In the case of Hancock, we see two new depictions of her dynamic with men
We never saw her treat Rayleigh as a source of emotional comfort before tjis
We’ve never seen a man render Hancock vulnerable before this
people have different thresholds on how long they can tolerate the same thing
but there's definitely a point where u can say "....they really have ONLY done this huh"
Yeah that’s what I mean
like there's nothing that could've prompted hancock to think about luffy but she did and it just continues off of my already very poor impression of her from the summit war saga, so forgive me if I think she's flanderized based off an entire saga and that one chapter where she doesn't focus as much on luffy doesn't really solve things for me
You can say you’re sick of Hancock’s gag with Luffy and you don’t like it
I don’t care too much for that
But arguments of, shes flanderized
That’s just not true because flanderization is the direct opposite of this
while im not like disgusted by hancock's gag
i do think it's lasted...quite a while
and we could have had more going on
it will be her whole character until the end of the series smugu we don't have time to change it
I wonder if terabyte feels the same way about Zoro still getting lost
Or Luffy still being an idiot
Or Nami still loving money
we had to wait from impel down to buggy deciding he wants to enter the competition to get buggy actually feeling ambitious
Hancock will always be weird
Yamato will always be Oden
Zoro will always be lost
Sanji will always be a creep
ye it is wut it is 
I don't because they have a lot of other traits to offer and both zoro and nami's gags in particular have rarely seen use after the timeskip
This is just silly actually
oda's story has gone too big to scale back now
tbf Sanji had times where he was less and more creepy, he has evolved a little bit in terms of this tho not really in a way I like
we're literally in the fimbulwinter section of the story
Hancock just went through an extremely harrowing and dangerous incident
How is it inappropriate that while stewing in those emotions, she thinks about the man she loves lol
People leave a bad day at work and think “I can’t wait to get home to my family” all the time
Even though their family had nothing to do with what happened at work
Jinbe will always be fat...
That’s kind of the whole reason we have loved ones
The thoughts of them provide comfort in trying times
Jimbe was fat... 💔
i've consumed too much instagram reel memery for this to actually be a bother
We’re now getting to a point where we’re ignoring how people even work to make these claims
He’s actually quite skinny for his race
Not me
#ShuronDebunked
the funny thing is sanji woofing to stussy she's like the only woman who is like
not beating the shit out of sanji she's like "yes yes dear now go find vegapunk for me"
Are you trying to make the argument that Hancock doesn’t have a lot of traits to offer that are independent of her love for Luffy?
shuron's defending her to the very end because I don't think her resting her head on rayleigh's knee detracts from how overused her fawning over luffy is as a gag and how annoying it is as a result
Funny enough most women in OP find Sanjis antics amusing
Its interesting how often people call Jinbe fat
That’s a while different type of fishman. Whalesharks are heavier
That’s not my argument
they've never had a simp before 
He's not like abnormally large for OP
no she really doesn't, not to the extent of the straw hats for sure after she falls for luffy
There's tons of other characters that are big like Jinbe lol
My argument is that calling it overused when it’s one panel at the end of the entire flashback goes to show how invalid this argument is
candidates to replace the Monalisa
i think its cuz he doesnt have a muscular design
It’s a great design
he just has some winter fat
its become a bit of a gag in the series
like, compare luffy before and now
it was at the start of the chapter like I already highlighted before, I even said it can leave a negative impression for the rest of the chapter
luffy is incredibly strong but he just looks skinny
Maybe its an anime thing for me
It doesn’t matter
now he looks buff and toned
bug eyed little creature
Ik Boa getting jealous of Nami and Robin is anime only
but its done lovingly, like Jinbe pointing out that he always looked like that during Egghead when the other 3 were stuffing themselves up
Calling it overused is a buzzword because of that
pre ts luffy is basically "i make stick figure, but stick figure actually punch super hard"
dismissing how I feel about a gag as a buzzword won't make you magically correct
Oda VERY regularly displays both sides of Hancock’s character
I wish we had more hancock fighting
you can't just punch people
what is wrong with l*ffy
I think I already said the gag takes up half her screentime? I didn't say that's her entire character lol
also wasnt luffy doing like
really hard manual labor in wano prison
hilarious
Hancock in Stampede was awesome
Her interaction with Blackbeard when he grabs her demonstrated tjis
and was literally getting stronger and more buff cuz of it
luffy was smashing giant boulders with nerfed seastone and was getting more buff too
This exactly goes to show
That you are using buzzwords
Cancel her for calling Jinbe stuffed
Because that is what flanderizing a character is
he really didn't eat anything
no, it means that I have different standards where I think a gag taking up that much of a character's screentime is shit, stop calling everything you disagree with a buzzword
You can’t say “oh Hancock is still multifaceted, I just don’t like this ome facet” AND “Hancock is flanderized”
jimbei i think tends to eat modestly
I think it's fair to say her love for luffy is so bold/flagrant that it overpowers her other characteristics in any scene where luffy comes up. But that's not every scene
Multifaceted and flanderized are mutually exclusive
actually that reminds me
he just wanted a pear back in Amazon Lily 💔
remember that big ass dinner celebration they were supposed to have in wano
Just say that
"multifaceted" and you highlighted only two sides ok
jimbei was the only 1 who stayed
It's almost Christmas 🎄🎁🎄🎁🎄
About to clock out of work. I wonder if a Luffy pfp will ever get to know this feeling
jimbei be like "nah its cool prepare your food, the others just went out"
it's the same reason why I think sanji is trash in FMI
Dawg lmao
thank god oda toned down on that afterwards
Yeah I wont say Hancock is flanderized
Having even just two sides is multifaceted
Thats kinda just her
yes in the very technical sense it is, however the word usually evokes more than two traits at least for me
Flanderization would imply Oda ramped up a trait.
Hancock is a simp for Luffy, a cruel and cold villain, and a bastion for her people
All at once
Shes multifaceted
The fact that Hancock is portrayed as both a bastion for her people
i think points 2 and 3 are much more minimal tho
Im glad my ragebait got one laugh
i think thats the concern
While threatening to execute members of her people
And it’s coherent to one total character
Goes to show shes multifacted
Tbh I kinda don’t care
2*
If someone says they don’t like Hancock becausw we don’t see enough of those other facets
Thats fine
It’s not a flaw to want more of ABC because you don’t care much for XYZ
what’s the agenda against luffy pfps @distant vine 😂
always see ppl say this
are they just looked at as normies or bots etc
But if you’re gonna take that into pretending that’s ALL she is
That’s what I’ll dispute
Yeah I call them that sometimes
I’ll dispute the idea that it’s not meaningful to see it depicted that Hancock looks up to Rayleigh so much
Robots, and sheep
That is meaningful
I think the way Tera talks about Hancock is another example of
People feel the need to defend a take that’s just
“This didnt work for me”
That’s enough
When you try to take that into “no theyre badly written,” it starts to fall apart
went afk for a bit
Becausw then you start saying stuff that’s not at all applicable ans you have to backtrack like Tera had to just how with the flanderization criticism
who won between shuron and terabyte
Sometimes, things will be written well
But you just won’t care
And it’s okay for it to begin and end at “this just doesn’t appeal to me”
You don’t have to ignore the things that make Hancock well written
who are you fighting with big dawg, I never said that the gag is all she is
You said she was flanderized
she is
That’s what flanderized means
The fact that you are now trying to say “oh no I didn’t mean it that way”
That’s buzzwording
You threw that word out without regard for what it actually means because you’ve seen arguments made using that word
I guess I just don't know the right meaning of flanderized and I've believed something else all this time? what's the right word for it then oh wise one?
Not because it applies
You just don’t care for her gag
That’s all it is
For every panel Hancock was in in that flashback, Luffy came up for one of them
Calling that flanderization is bonkers
Im noticing a trend between my dislike of Sanji, Pudding and Boa...
I'm so glad one chapter is enough for you to hype up, I still remember the summit war saga very well though lol
one-sided stuff is almost always buns and oda himself played it off as something he can do for humor in that interview with aoyama
The summit war where she has plenty of panels that has nothing to do with Luffy
Also not flanderization
Flanderization would mean that simpint for Luffy is ALL her character is reduced to at the expense of other sides to her
I don't know what the right word for it is then, but it got to the point where it felt like that was almost her entire character and it was annoying as fuck
sanji doesn’t have a one sided romance
i don’t think he has a girl he canonically likes so far in the story romantically
True its lust
You dislike the gag so much that when it comes up, even balanced with the rest of her, you hyperfocus on it
I've seen people say he genuinely likes nami above all other women despite the man himself saying he wants to love all women lol
I think they also call that seeing forest for the trees
I wouldn't dislike the gag if it wasn't so overused 
they tripping
he just the closest with nami and robin because they are his crewmates
that doesn’t mean he has feelings for them
well he has had the most exposure with nami if anything
out of women^
And what makes it overused?
I'll glady team up with LuNa bros to violently crush every SaNami shipper
Are you going to substantiate that with a measure of how it’s at the expense of her other traits
Or is this gonna boil down to “I don’t like it therefore it should happen less”
oh I don't know, the number of panels I had to see of hancock fawning this way or that over luffy after she fell for him?
So this one
do you think this is the only gag I dislike? I also don't like sanji's perv gag because of how often I have to see that too
what do u think of LA sanji then
No, i think there’s a difference between “I’d like to see less of this” and “this is all the character is now”
yeah some are overplayed but a funny gag is the jarul one ngl😂😂
had me weak last chapter he just got a sword thru his head 30 seconds ago and he was telling scopper don’t worry the helmet saved me
cuz he was more smooth talker clearly into it but more like "my apologies madam, can i get you something to drink, i could only offer you our finest wine"
how is he not braindead😂😂
I mean yeah? how much else did we see of hancock between impel down and marineford? not a lot besides having some dialogue or the other about luffy
better than perv sanji by miles
sanji when he isn't being a perv is great
he is a giant. that sword missed the 2 brain cells in there
you know 2 demon giants coming to take his head right now
LA sanji gonna be the type to get the best prime cut and freshest ingredients for the women
for the guys?
the scraps u wouldnt feed to dogs
and he’s not even running😭😂

ill take any death at this point in OP. Off with Jaruls head 
jarul is a warrior👀
maybe his death will rile up giants into stop being cowards
Your complaint is that a lot of Hancock’s scenes were about Luffy
During the stretch of story where she’s helping Luffy break into prison
😐
Hancock canr with with you lol
In egghead it was “she doesnr even have any reason to think of Luffy”
And now the arc where she’s helping Luffy directly
She still isn’t allowed to think or talk about him lol
This is what I mean by, when you feel the need to justify something that’s really just “I personally don’t care for it”
Silly things get said
The first Vander Decken, captain of the Flying Dutchman, teaching Joyboy rope knots (colorised)
Flying touchman if I was on board
no she isn't ig, and her constantly fawning over luffy on a battlefield was also annoying and it made her a worse character overall for me, now are you going to keep bugging me to defend this character or can we move on? maybe flanderization isn't the right word, but her gag absolutely is overused and oda makes little effort to showcase other facets of her character after falling in love, and I don't like that
Wouldn’t you like to find out
This still isn’t true because we see the cold villain side to her in MF as well
Her first big appearance post-skip sidelines the gag
I didn't say "oda doesn't show anything else" for a reason my guy
Instead it focuses on two new reactions to men
Yeah I’m disputing you saying he makes little use of it
I don’t need to change your words lol
I think he does in contrast to obsessing over luffy
Merry Christmas chat!
merry christmas
merry christmas
any chance we get a chapter this week at all?
High
is what meek would say if there was a high chance of there being a chapter
Again, one panel in the entire plot point we last saw her in
Balanced in the others
Merry Christmas y'all
Merry Christmas
Heyy kidfury
Hi Fr0nSen
How is u doing
W comments
God I love this era of One Piece
All the shanks gas will transfer to bb
impossible
flying dutchman is davy jones btw
at this point im convinced
youre telling me joyboys ability is TOON FORCE
and SPONGEBOB is like one of the biggest cartoons in the world
Is no mod online
maybe flying dutchman IS JOYBOY
egggead ebds decenver
They are being jolly
They ain't
?
Wasn’t the Flying Dutchman Van Decken’s ship?
Yes
It's alright glex I need a spoiler staff
Van Decken the first is joyboy confirmed
gross spoilers
Some weird shit was going on in spoiler chat
for what
oh
idc about spoiler chat
I hope spoiler chat burns itself
Monkey King is real 
Wrong and I feel sorry for you
What the hell is monkey king
this is unironically very possible
His name isn’t even king
A product of balkan's delusions and insanity
we also had stuff like klabautermann
If anything it would be monkey d arber but that would be a shit theory
Yeah, exactly
It's a movie is it not
but there's a lot of movies with that name "Monkey King"
Am I allowed to spoil journey to the west. Is it in the realm of like mythology where it's fair game
It is the story of sun wukong
It is like almost related but not
Hey Pasta
Nah
Technically you arent even allowed to spoil events in the bible either.
Shreeder, I accidently read another manga
I'm sorry
It better be zatch bell
@thick mango
It's related in the sense that there is a character called the monkey king
but that's it
Oh I was just saying hello
But I'm not talking about a specific wukong manga I'm talking about the general story
Vinland saga comes to mind lol history can spoil that
Oh hello
I don't mean to rush you reading it if it comes across that
lol
I think it's fine as long as you don't use context of the manga or in other series
But who knows I got muted today for one sec for a funny😭
I haven’t seen any indication on this week
I forget where I was even gonna connect it but wukong is trapped under a mountain for hundreds of years for rebelling against heaven
This feels like when arsal is being purposefully vague
I can explain it
Yeah like the gods did it to him like th y rejected him I think
He kinda deserved it he was being a mischievous little shit up there iirc
Stealing and vandalizing shit for no good reason just for fun
Yeah but isn't it kinda an alagory for high class or am I thinking to much into it 😭😂
Kidna sounds like....joy boy
Again....
Mythology does repeat it self I think it was you too who brought up the Adam and Eve stuff and it sounded like joy boy too
Idk how much tho Luffy related to Hanuman
It's hard to connect to joyboy when we know so little
All we know is he wanted to maintain the ancient weapons and he lost
Na we know a lil more
That he was apart of the ancient kingdom and thrown out or had to run for taking something
So we know he wasn't on good terms with the ancient kingdom possibly
And that also made him the first pirate
That does sound like wukong
Ancient kingdom is gods
I think wukong steals special fruits
Being thrown out because of what ever reason
I gotta look into Hanuman too because I think it might be closer to luffys story or joy boy maybe
Mr Beast when he sees a Celestial Dragon for the first time
Quoting WhosBreezy (@WhosBreezyUK)
︀
mfs watch anime one time and change their pfp to shit like this 😭😭😭
another youtuber who will cook postponehawk
florian triangle monsters are still a mystery
the new X update made some artists delete their account btw
another reason why AI is bad
All hail our skynet overlords
Ah man
Uh then Meeks is just lying for fun
Lying can be fun
lowkey
Yeah i have actual no source
I just thought we'd get raws tonight
So i kept saying "high"
Oh he 100% is
chopper w
This is peak
SONG:
歌え!クリスマス ~ジングルベル~ | Sing! Christmas ~Jingle Bells~ [7人の麦わらの一味 / 7-Member Straw Hat Pirates Ver.]
ALBUM:
ONE PIECE キャラソンBEST "FESTIVAL"
[Disc 2, Track 07] — [Full Album, Track 24]
RELEASED:
20 July 2016 (recent)
SINGER(s}:
Luffy (Mayumi Tanaka)
Zoro (Kazuya Nakai)
Usopp (Kap...
Who up jingling they bells rn?
Me
Merry Christmas #also-manga
Zoro should be the grinch lol
Merry Christmas guys

No
Angel on shoulder - put ragebait aside, embrace the joy of the holidays
Devil on shoulder - so what makes someone a swordsman exactly
doflamingo out jollies katakuri
he got gifts for 2 supernova at the same time, and one of them was so filled with the christmas spirit they had to leave the room (fight)
katakuri, though he purposefully gave himself a gift in his battle to reduce his festive score, only fought a single opponent. He's half the gift giver doflamingo is.
Advanced slander
Too much effort to deny Koby being the goat
I wonder if whoever beats pizzaro will get slandered on the basis that koby also beat him
I never seen these before this looks amazing hold up!
It’s the other way around actually. Garp was using haki knots made by Koby.
This is part of my theory for what the next form of Gear 5th could be like a super Nika
My cousin told me it’s fake
Yeah this happened in 2006, Vader was trying to stop Christmas on an empire occupied planet
Who do you trust, my cousin or the law fan
Look up Santarctica 2006
Let’s Jollyscale on this Christmas Eve
What’s the strongest Jolly Roger?
koby is deku
GUYS HES COMING

Which Straw Hat would be the best Santa and which would be the worst
Me last night
Best: franky
Worst: luffy
Franky would be the best Santa cuz I imagine he can manufacture toys SUUUUUUPER quick like that time he built a bridge in Thriller Bark.
Zoro probably would be the worst santa unfortunately cuz he gets lost & that won’t be good for gift delivery during Christmas
Franky can also do funny tricks
Jolly Roger strength tier list
I cannot believe Santa is a Sith Lord
Based on how likely the Jolly Roger is to win a fight
@thick mango which one do you disagree on?
Maybe I misunderstood the metric what do you mean win in a fight
how is a headless dude in A tier
why is Usopp Yellow?
and Sanji is Blue?
Those are their associated colors
says who
!animo
Next episode comes out on <t:1766937600:F> <t:1766937600:R> (time zone adjusted)
Soul
No clue
If the thing in the Jolly Roger fought the other things in other jolly Rogers who would win. Like S tier is a freaking sun. The sun burns everyone else
It’s the headless rider
It’s freaky
And scary
how he gonna win a fight without a head
heart
By throwing it at enemies. He’s not dead
now that doesnt make sense
why are the beast pirates so low for this
Why are there 2 nami jolly rogers and why are they in C? 
theres 2 of every strawhat
asdnfbjakdlshflskjfhdlkfhladskjfhladskfhakjfhdsalkfjhdsafhsadjlkfhsdf
yeah
So glue
Which one is it?
Because that’s what was in the tier list. And she will steal your heart

!vent
DON'T VENT YOUR ISSUES HERE

!vent
DON'T VENT YOUR ISSUES HERE
Skill Issue
nt champ
Already?
Noob
Who’s the sick son of a B who spoiled you

This is why we should erase all members of the spoiler clan
Put them on an island and we can hunt them down
I'm sorry sanjuan
Spoil me if you want but why Khalid. Khalid doesn’t deserve the pain. It’s a horrible thing to do. This is why it’s hard to try not to read spoilers, because people will purposely spoil you because they’re sick in the head
Yeah you’re good. I just mean that community as a whole and specifically the ones who hunt down non spoilers readers
That exists?
Back in my YouTube days it happened all the time. Like easily every 2 weeks. Nowadays there’s not someone who specifically has hunted me down to spoil me but I still get spoiled by mistake once in a while. If you want to read spoilers, do it, I’m not your dad, just know the consequences of your actions. You need to be extra cautious about everything you say and where you say it
Im just surprised cause Ive only got spoilered once and never look at them myself
But then again Im not as active in OP internet stuff
Just pinged the whole spoiler staff for this and now it got deleted lol
Sucks that happened to you bro
Considering how holidays happen we may get the chapter next week
Dang that's even worse for non-spoiler readers
Yeah like that shit usually happens around that time
I hope we get the chapter quick so theres no time for any more spoils
Although sometimes we may get the chapter early
I haven't got any spoilers yet 
I mean that might be too late lol
i just keep away from twitter and mute the spoiler channels
this mr beast stuff is so funny dude
✊ BEAST
I like to talk about one piece and it’s a shame that because I like the story so much I get the most spoiled. I’m glad it hasn’t happened to you. This place is safe for the most part but weirdos tend to join in once in a while
THE 2026 bit?
like the whole year?
✊ BEAST
Make it your January bit
✊ MR BEAST
Muting Mailbox for spam
It’s better without the MR
french mr beast is called monsure beast
Yeah the one time it happened was in manga chat 🤣 but that was years ago
Haha sorry bout that my fault
i was so excited for "we are eustass kid" to be a new insane kid fan
That moment Mr beast sees the beast pirates and gives fruits to 100 people, 99 give you food poisoning and 1 gives you 1 million dollars
but its just the normal one
Oh 😕
Of course it was you
we need a new eustass fan that gets banned in 2 months tbh
been too long since the last one
mr beast is a kid fan?
😭so pretentious
✊ BEAST
not very beast
He said he started one piece and only in 12-14hrs he changed pfp. Its like marketing or engagement bait lol
i've written and deleted a bit 3 times because i dont have it in my heart to pretend to like mr ✊ BEAST
Mr beast will make one piece in real life just like he did for squid game
Oda will draw mr beast
a dark prophecy
i saw like two other influencers talking about one piece too
is big one piece paying them
I dont want that Satan anywhere near One Piece
Mr Breast being a performative fan is funny asf though
Yes, marketing for live action i think
But i don't have proof 
Speed is a genuine fan right?
a minute...
you might be onto something
Just be careful
All aboard the Bandwagon
Speed stuff is even more hilarious cause him showing more media literacy than the average one piece fan wasn’t in my bingo card lmao
speed went for 8 hours and actually had good takes
but most of the fanbase is braindead so everyone got ragebaited
yeah speed is
bro rich idk what's going on but discord will not stop giving me notifications telling me when you changed your status
Yeah Speed is definitely a huge fan especially now with his argument against some of the brain rotted agenda guys lol
speed is legit just an actual fan
Its doing the same for me
like he locks in to discuss one piece

Yeah that was obvious so many times but seeing him actually lock in like that was baffling cause I wasn’t used to seeing him like that 😭😭
jesus is giving you signs to meet up irl
oh nah
I wanna debate with him so bad
respectfully I'm not going within miles of Oklahoma
Are you uptodate with discord updates?
Good choice.
Other than the drugs, its kinda trash.
His shanks vs mihawk one is funny 
yeah put touch more grass in new year resolution buddy
overall it's just OK 🙂
ough thank you for this
Mari literally just got back from traveling the world g
also I'm not meeting up with someone almost twice my age 
Or at least most of Asia
ouuu where ya go
Mari is little sis and thats where it ends
singapore, philippines, japan, korea, Australia
amazing pfp
if i meed with anybody from this server IRL i will headbutt them at full speed with my bald head
thanks
i still haven't done a korea trip yet
Mari and marin are different people?
...


how did ya like singapore

it could have been better, i mean I'd go again but I'm not exactly rich enough for the prices there
Yeah singapore is expensive asf

You guys don't own cars right? Or only own them for certain period
What is labubu
nah, i didn't get a car, i have a bike though
it's like a viral blindbox toy
i use public transport as well
I'm talking in general
Ohhh
oh year car ownership isn't that big here
You live under a rock or some
i used to hate them, but they've grown on me a lot (not my photo)
since most are like me, blue collars and businessmen from abroad
Never heard that term 

The ugly dolls that the internet crashed out over for like 3 months
Oh yeah i know these, didn't know they are named as labubu
I'm in Vegas right now actually and i almost bought my first non-figure labubu since one was going for like $27 (not plus tax) at popmart
i was really going to get it but then i got a hello kitty thing instead
Labubu
Genuinely, if you build an apartment in singapore, you would be a millionaire by just renting blue collars
The Hello Kitty lore is wild
do you like labubu macks
I'm probably living in cave for those 3 months 
merry Christmas to you all btw
the only way i'd own a labubu was if it was like an one piece character
the price for labubu is messed up
merry christmas
Merry Christmas sis
natural labubus are evil
No they're a psy op
merry christmas
Merry christmas and a very happy new year for you all
It's been Christmas for like 16 hours what's wrong with you guys
i mean the official price isn't too bad especially compared to other blindboxes these days, it's mainly resell price that stinks
wait what does this mean
Dumbed down, an Industry plant but for other tings
its like a hidden agenda thing idk really
like big milk making us buy milk
That Wendigoon video was wild
Big Milk being a real ting is crazy
dude i need to lock in and watch the wendigoon video i left open on my tabs
This timeline is wild
Which ones
i enjoy it much more
Omg thats so cute
this one
i was watching a wendigoon video yesterday while falling asleep 
its like 6 hours of video
Lmaoooo yea I haven't gotten to that one either I need more zaza and I just ran out
(it was between this or one of those half skeleton figures with Admirals
)
I have done the same
Lmaoooo this is cute and funny asf
did you guys watch wendigoon's video on that mall thing
whats the name again
the oldest view?
i was on the livestream when he was first reacting to it
i think that was the biggest jumpscare of my life and it's not even a fucking jumpscare
no i did not
its very good
it was that youtube ARG video kepther e
I used to play his Conspiracy Theory Iceburg video and fall asleep to that
i recommend this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL7_mLgVbpg&t=2712s
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very fun
So luffy didn't kill vegapunk but he did take York hostage so did Morgans even really lie about egghead
No
Yes because VP is alive
What did the headline actually say post broadcast
Saying vp is dead isn't a lie a lie requires wrong + intent
So while he did intend to lie about taking vp hostage, it was actually true
Yea this video is great
Merry Christmas
Why don't I have pic perms no more
what do you mean no more?
I think I had pic perms earlier
In manga channel I think
doesn't look like it
!pics
Where can I send pics tho
I gotta ask smth
???
!pics
You are able to post pictures after you reach level 10. Check your level by typing ?rank in #bots.
what happened to loki????????
Any place I can send pics?
no
Bruh
you need to get to level 10
couldn't handle playing a gacha
@frail kindle i have an insane theory idea
It’s regarding the significance of the double page in VPs speech of some of the the big players
i think the ones shown in that page will die by EOS
we all die eventually
I hope I die by eos
Bruh nooo
!vent
DON'T VENT YOUR ISSUES HERE
what
POV ur a cookie and im santa
I can see why
Yeah especially his answers like this lmao
you are evil but don't die on us
i won't be able to curse you anymore then
damn ya'll taking it too seriously, I'm saying I'm old lol
The only ones that are guaranteed to die is Blackbeard, Garling, Akainu, and especially Imu.
He looks exactly like the generic powerscalers 
how old?
like...
But at least his arguments are good lol
almost 40

people live that long? crazy
Boa noite a todes
quase bom dia
Sadly
Goodnight dude
véspera né
The Shanks dickriding be pmo ngl
I mean I get why tho
I would also love to tell bro that One Piece is horrible for powerscaling so hes just howling at the moon
Speed just repeated the obvious and he is getting the credit for it
merry chrysler




