also-manga

[final trench]

Thats when i knew i had the power

[stone tulip]

Yeah I think it got popular during egghead and how Japanese fans (or at least those who speak the language) looked back and noticed how “Shanks” speech pattern during reverie sounded off and how there was interview that Oda censored his own answers too.

[urban lodge]

Oh yeah there was that too

[rustic coral]

Guys wasnt the deep sea pact tattoo on Shanks in the past or am i making it up

[final trench]

Yea it could be a parallel to god valley where sham spied on blackbeard

[pulsar timber]

If it’s shamrock he’s probably talking about Loki

[glacial bear]

Yes

[final trench]

Wait

[shadow knoll]

yeahh, i remember abt that, people were tweeting abt it a lot

[stone tulip]

I mean it’s either Shanks, Luffy (due to his connection with Shanks), or Blackbeard (god valley).

Another option would be Loki if he counts too.

[final trench]

What if imu blew up lulusia because shamrock told him blackbeards mom was still alive

https://tenor.com/view/speed-covering-mouth-stream-scary-speed-scared-gif-3435748839023247479

[pulsar timber]

Loki was a pirate so he counts

[rustic coral]

Can you send it, i think it was the flashback with ace or smth

[pulsar timber]

So it’s probabltloki

[shadow knoll]

wait when did they say she wsa in lulusia

[urban lodge]

It was just a blade of god mark

[final trench]

Im just speculating for rn

[urban lodge]

I think it was in 1152

[glacial bear]

I just parked at my workplace. I have to go to work now 😭 I’m sorry

[rustic coral]

Oh no worries

[rustic coral]

There was an older panel i thought

[shadow knoll]

wait were you typing while driving

[urban lodge]

It's just that one

[shadow knoll]

???????

[stone tulip]

I had suspicion about the whole thing that it may not have been Shanks cause how the speech pattern were off so that was dead give away no matter how fans try to dismiss that, like speech patterns is also how people were able to out Stussy being the one who Vegapunk called before the reveal too.

[rustic coral]

From like MF

[shadow knoll]

wait you can tell that much from the dialect alone?

damn i gotta learn japanis

[stone tulip]

Shanks only has the shallow pact, he was supposed to get the deep pact but he bailed out cause he knew if he got it he is screwed.

[final trench]

Nah if shanks was codeswitching

[pulsar timber]

Arm covered

[final trench]

Kinda real tho

[final trench]

Almost put lil bro down #yikes

[shadow knoll]

damn young ace was as good as prime jimbei

i thought jimbei was a lot more powerful during alabasta

considering he was one of the 7 warlords

[final trench]

When the boss is unlocked💔

[stone tulip]

Yeah I recall that was major discussion during egghead that even Sandman brought it up, it’s also why someone like Dawn Stussy (another reliable translator) mentioned how Shirahoshi couldn’t be Mosa due to speech pattern something that Sandman did talk about long ago about her speech pattern too. Plus one of YouTubers who can speak Japanese made a video about Shanks and how he brought up the speech pattern too.

[prisma yacht]

Lmaoo

[urban lodge]

Oda can't keep getting away with the Ace post mortem upscale

[final trench]

Nah its gonna happen

[pulsar timber]

Ace fans can’t stop winning

[prisma yacht]

Whimpyhoshi is mosa btw

[final trench]

Ace’s hat has his conquerors in it

[pulsar timber]

We up

[final trench]

Conquerors hatki

[stone tulip]

It’s Blackbeard upscale too

[pulsar timber]

Next ace flashback he will secretly be admiral level

[shadow knoll]

[final trench]

He beat a vice admiral in his novel LMAOOO

damaged old whitebeard

[sleek saddle]

saying that like she doesnt have the power to absolutely fuck up anyone on the surface via summoning a bunch of sea kings

[final trench]

Beat hanafuda (who clashed with kaido)

[sleek saddle]

Bugging

[final trench]

That nigga is the ultimate potential man

[cold steppe]

I think he can take jack

[final trench]

Nobody got more potential than ace

[stone tulip]

Yeah the speech patterns were major things during the time

[cold steppe]

Or maybe take each other down

[final trench]

Maybe its a good thing ace didnt use haki

[prisma yacht]

What isn't her name whimpyhoshi

[final trench]

#uncomfortableconvos

[shadow knoll]

i knew about the shanks speech pattern cuz of how big of a theory shanks twin became but others i didn't know

[stone tulip]

Speaking of translations people are trying to deny Sandman’s translations of the Sanji’s bio in mini magazine lmao

[sleek saddle]

everyone hates sanji

[final trench]

It was bound to happen

Zoro and sanji ARE equal

Zoros just cooler

[stone tulip]

Nah uh

[final trench]

I was gonna say sum but spice reacted so that dont deserve a real response

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-anime-one-piece-movie-8-episode-of-alabasta-alabasta-gif-4435575889457675127

[stone tulip]

Yeah I remembered the Stussy theories during Egghead for sure

[sleek saddle]

thats cause they're close friends😂

trust

[final trench]

Speaking of stussy, yall think weevil a clone fr? 👀

[sleek saddle]

Shirahoshi defo got ties with Loki

[stone tulip]

Guess by the time Elbaf began they are indeed equals

[thick mango]

I don't give this much weight tbh. Subjective analysis of speech patterns needs to be weighed against the most blatant and obvious hint oda coulda given

[final trench]

Yea they balance eachother out

Zoro got the conquerors, sanji got the mobility

And ig he got durability too since his exoskeleton

[stone tulip]

Speech patterns doesn’t line up and timeline doesn’t line up either cause unless Shirahoshi lied about it no reason for her not to bring up Loki

[thick mango]

Like I'm supposed to believe that oda used this one nickname for one character specifically and it's a red herring? That'd be the dumbest shit

[stone tulip]

Except speech patterns is key part of character’s identity like that’s how Stussy was outed as the one Vegapunk called and how the one Gorosei spoke to was Shanrock, plus it could be red herrings too.

[thick mango]

It's not like there are 5 mosas to choose from

[shadow knoll]

Ahh, tbh I didn't start reading Egghead until the gorosei started spawn camping, so I wasn't tapped into the meta that much

[final trench]

I mean, we just got a marco polo joke so

[scenic dirge]

It’s Shirahoshi

[final trench]

Expect stupidity always

Because its funny

[cold steppe]

I still think marco and polo are the same person

[stone tulip]

Fair but now you know lol

[cold steppe]

Marco just can't die

[stone tulip]

@scenic dirge this is why I don’t think it is.

[prisma yacht]

Oda just forgot how whimpyhoshi used to talk

[thick mango]

The argument just sounds to me like, ignore this very clear and hard evidence, that's just a red herring. Check out this soft weak evidence instead

[stone tulip]

Doesn’t make sense when she just appeared last arc.

Plus again timeline doesn’t line up.

[prisma yacht]

What's wrong with the timeline

[final trench]

Indeed

[thick mango]

If there were like a dozen mosas to choose from then we can start looking at the speech patterns. But there's not. There's one.

[stone tulip]

The speech pattern isn’t the only prove that Mosa isn’t Shirahoshi cause Luffy conversation with her is another thing and considering how Loki talked to Mosa that made me doubt it even more.

[final trench]

He does have the phoenix fruit afterall

[final trench]

He couldve just respawned at the age he awakened/ ate it

[thick mango]

I think the only hand wave this needs is "in person"

[warm sierra]

Maybe the den den mushi is inside megalo

[stone tulip]

Plus another thing too

[prisma yacht]

https://x.com/i/status/2000961696916210047

喜び (@jswht1)

X · Dec 16, 2025, 4:10 PM

[prisma yacht]

Truee

[thick mango]

If its not Shirahoshi that neptune/harald line (which also established a connection) is the dumbest shit ever. It's a bad anti pattern

[stone tulip]

Maybe but with the way she phrased it doesn’t seem to be the case plus nobody got mad at her before which Loki did to Mosa plenty of times

[digital spear]

what does this mean

[thick mango]

What do you mean

[stone tulip]

Or maybe Oda is imply that Mosa might have connections with Shirahoshi, like for example rather than being Shirahoshi herself Mosa is the second sovereign

[digital spear]

what is a bad anti pattern

[stone tulip]

Like ever thought of that possibility?

[urban lodge]

Do Shirahoshi's brothers have any speech quirks?

[thick mango]

Like a flagrant red herring. An obvious hint that didn't actually hint it's implication

[icy wolf]

theres spoilers

[fervent fable]

Guess the one piece character i am thinking of

[shadow knoll]

she might be pretending though...

[digital spear]

Youre talking as if Neptune and Harald having a connection only has a purpose if Shirahoshi is Mosa

[thick mango]

More the combination of the connection and name dropping shaggy which hasn't been used for anyone else

[stone tulip]

Doubt it especially when Shirahoshi doesn’t seem to be the lying type at all

[prisma yacht]

There's only 1 hint

[stone tulip]

Said thing could have been a red herring too plus doesn’t change how there are contradictions here too

[fossil nimbus]

Why would she lie about that

[stone tulip]

Like I would have believed it was Shirahoshi if it weren’t for those contradictions

Like her speech pattern, the timeline, Shirahoshi’s statements, and more.

[thick mango]

Red herrings are not positive they're flaws

[digital spear]

well we had the Roger calling her Shaggy in 967 already and I called the Shirahoshi and Elbaf thing months before all the Mosa shit

[stone tulip]

Red herring can be good if it was handled well, plus not the first time Oda did red herrings too, like the Shanks and Shammrock is recent example of this.

[thick mango]

That just entrenches me further in the belief it's shirahoshi

[stone tulip]

Doesn’t Roger call her Moja instead tho ?

Rather than Mosa ?

[thick mango]

It's hairy rather than shaggy. But again. No one else has a nickname like this to my knowledge

[cold steppe]

Well if it's not shirahoshi. Could be someone from the heavens realm

[distant vine]

I dont think Oda would red herring Shaggy

Doesnt feel like him to me

[digital spear]

Me too but even without it the Harald Neptune line makes sense on his own. Like Im convinced Shirahoshi will be connected to Elbaf (and now is) without being Mosa. But yeah the easiest solution is if she is Mosa

[distant vine]

I think he planted the seed for well-read readers to pick up on

"Oh, Shaggy like the phone call Loki had"

[digital spear]

Does he not call her the same way Harald does

[thick mango]

I just checked it's hairy

Rather than shaggy

[scenic dirge]

It’s Shirahoshi

[stone tulip]

Not unless another reason for these two to share similar nicknames is simply because these two may have connections with each other rather than being the same person

[digital spear]

[scenic dirge]

Also clearly a good and fluid way of reintegrating her back into the story given yknow… she’s an ancient FUCKING weapon she’s sorta important I think

[shadow knoll]

if it's not shirahoshi then chances are it's gonna be another new character...

[thick mango]

It's basically the same gag with harald

[stone tulip]

Apparently not

[thick mango]

But again we aren't comparing hairy/shaggy A to shaggy/shaggy b. There's one character that's been talked about this way

[shadow knoll]

"hairy"

😭

[stone tulip]

Just want to point out really, but the nicknames isn’t reason why I don’t believe it, like would have believed it immediately had it not been for contradictions I mentioned before.

[shadow knoll]

the dialect and language opens up another dimension to all theories which is so annoying sometimes

[thick mango]

I just think the nicknames are such a stronger signal than those apparent contradictions

[shadow knoll]

so freaking vague about everyday

this Oda guy

[charred flower]

Good day

What's the topic?

[thick mango]

Mosa shirahoshi or not

[charred flower]

Huh, could be

[stone tulip]

Sure but I feel like speech patterns is the bigger evidences wether it’s her or not cause Oda loves to give certain characters speech patterns that is unique to them including Shirahoshi herself

Plus timelines issues too

[charred flower]

What's the consensus on the tone/speech of Mosa?

[stone tulip]

It may narrow who it is tho

[thick mango]

I just can't evaluate that in Japanese. And don't trust random Twitter users so I give it no standing

[charred flower]

Could be Vivi?

[thick mango]

It's close enough in English that's all I can evaluate

[stone tulip]

Dawn Stussy is reliable translator tho and Sandman did talk about Shirahoshi’s speech patterns before so yeah they are reliable

[shadow knoll]

according to you only if the speech patterns weren't put into consideration it would be shirahoshi certainly, now it's a 70/30 chance that's she shirahoshi, if not then who actually is Mosa

and how is she important to the arc right now

[thick mango]

It's fine if you wanna give that weight but I don't. If I can't evaluate it myself I don't give it weight

[charred flower]

Sandman is reliable except when his agenda comes to play

[shadow knoll]

or is it something for the future

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/mouxy-cotorep-aveugle-debile-esquiver-gif-20546128

[cold steppe]

Oh yeah remember the owl ?

I think it was one of the candidates

[stone tulip]

Sandman did say Vivi’s speech is polite but that was years ago, but I myself sorta doubt it cause how would she get her hands on the den den mushi ?

[shadow knoll]

😭

not the owl

[sleek saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/imu-imu-speed-imu-ishowspeed-speed-imu-ishowspeed-imu-gif-5082088216306763781

[stone tulip]

Funny how that happened recently with the Sanji stuff right now (even tho this time is true)

[cold steppe]

For real
It was that owl, Ida, shirahoshi or a new character

[charred flower]

I think a news agency is one of the easiest places to get one, should be one over each reporters desk

[thick mango]

Same reason I don't give the imu pronoun stuff weight if it can't make it into the English I can't consider it

[cold steppe]

Now Ida is not an option

[digital spear]

Why do japanese translators make clickbait videos about some fuckass theories that we are supposed to kiss their asses for just because theyre japanese translators but GOD FORBID Shirahoshi is Mosa then theyre all like erm sorry but the speech pattern doesnt fit sorry 🤓 Mosa speaks more timid and sensitive and Shirahoshi more shy and scared sorry theres a HUGE difference 🤓 and in panel 184 we see Shirahoshi clip her fingers with a different sfx than Mosa does 🤓 and Roger calls her Moja and I call my mom Moda and my Moda beats your Mosa sorry 🤓 sorry but Shirahoshi cant be Mosa sorry but yeah sorry yeah 🤓

[charred flower]

He's a Zoro/Mihawk fan, it's so easy to see when his opinion takes on his translation

[stone tulip]

I guess but like I said speech patterns isn’t just my issue with Mosa and Shirahoshi theory too

[sleek saddle]

what an honorable goat

[thick mango]

I think part of the inconsistentcy there is just oda not having the plan. Fmi was over a decade ago and it's very obvious lokis story has changed along the way

[stone tulip]

Except Mosa and Loki had been talking for long time yet Vivi was only with Morgans recently so doesn’t line up at all

[stone tulip]

There is something that is called “lost translation”

[charred flower]

Sure, just saying it's an option, are we sure it's a woman though?

[tidal onyx]

Oh biblo is mosa for sure

[stone tulip]

Seems like it based on speech patterns, multiple translations did suggest that Mosa is girl due to that

[prisma yacht]

My first time seeing yc pissed off lmao

[digital spear]

Why would Vivi talk to Loki while spying on the baroque works

[shadow knoll]

this is so accurate that I'm saving it

[thick mango]

The main breadcrumbs we had for loki, the Lola stuff, hasn't come up once and seems deeply irrelevant compared to what we have gotten of his story recently

[stone tulip]

Maybe but like I said if it is Shirahoshi Oda would have to explain it

[final trench]

TALK ya shit slime

This a real uncomfortable convo

[prisma yacht]

😭😭

[digital spear]

Really? Its not that rare I think ...

[final trench]

WE DONT GIVE A FUCK IF YOU JAPANESE NIGGA

[prisma yacht]

I thought u always chill 😭

[sleek saddle]

Tae got tha shii😂

[stone tulip]

No I mean he deadass said Sanji is equal to Zoro so lmao

[dense haven]

sandman has never been wrong

[digital spear]

I mean im not actually angry at it lol but it deserved a rant

[final trench]

NAH LETS REAAAAALY TALK ABOUT IT

[final trench]

True thats oda’s neighbor

[dense haven]

I trust sandman with my life

[final trench]

But yea bro niggas think because they japanese they cant lie miss me wit dat

[sleek saddle]

Bump ts😂

[frozen aspen]

I don't believe you, please climb onto a skyscraper with sandman holding the rope as your only line of safety

[charred flower]

It would make sense if Loki was talking with someone who would move the plot forward, so the options for me are:
1.- Shirahoshi, since they are both in the mural and would conect Elbaf with FM, and at some point Luffy needs to go back and destroy FMI

2.- Vivi, has some conections to the endgame, would allow her to come to Elbaf and reunite with the SH Crew.

3.- idk, if it's speech pattern is formal and femenine, could be a new character that would give us an excuse to go to where she's having trouble

[prisma yacht]

Whimpy x loki all the way

[sleek saddle]

vivi would not be talking to loki

[fervent fable]

Betting on one piece outcomes is crazy

[dense haven]

is shirahoshi 100% just because she was already called mosa before

[sleek saddle]

Loki would curse her ahh tf out talkin back to him or smth😂

[dense haven]

and harald is frinds with neptune

[digital spear]

We wouldve had Shiraloki art in 2024 already if fuckers listened to me (or if I did it but too lazy)

[prisma yacht]

frinds

[digital spear]

They are bff

Manboshi is actually Haralds son. But not Ryuboshi

[shadow knoll]

maybe finally he's losing his touch on the retcon

[charred flower]

What I got from that is "there is room to say there is a gap between them; they are not equal" since other ppl were saying the translation specifically said "they are equal" and he's saying "they are even" (where I leave even can mean on the same tier, but not necessarily equal)

[dense haven]

zoro fans coping so hard

[digital spear]

Oda said Zoro is WAY stronger than Sanji and Luffy and EVERY other character he is the STRONGEST in the universe

[final trench]

Interesting

[charred flower]

I'm not saying I agree with that, it's just my interpretation of Sandmans tweet

[final trench]

Spice name me your 5 favorite sanji moments

I wanna see sum

[prisma yacht]

😭😭

[digital spear]

did Spice just call Dyaus a Zorofan

[charred flower]

But.... I am

Zoro > Yonko

[digital spear]

So glue

[charred flower]

Eos Zoro > IMU

[dense haven]

top 5 sanji moments:

• that time when blitzed that dude
• that time when blitzed that dude
• that time when blitzed that dude
• that time when blitzed that dude
• that time when blitzed that dude

[final trench]

Aha

[dense haven]

no wait thats zoro

[final trench]

So you’re not a sanji fan

[digital spear]

Poor dude

[final trench]

Interesting

Fake agendas arent cool man

[charred flower]

Mihawk can kill anyone in a second if they ever hold a stick in their hand when they were kids

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-nuh-uh-no-thanks-no-the-boys-gif-14330691688817719732

[haughty saddle]

Honorable mention: when he told the most lovable member of the crew to kill themselves

[dense haven]

thats my goat

[prisma yacht]

True

[stone tulip]

Even means equals tho so 💀

[shadow knoll]

100th zoro vs sanji & newgate vs akainu convo of the day

[charred flower]

Mr. Prince
Most of WCI
Saving the SH at the end of Ennies Lobby
The water 7 train invasion
Basically supporting the entire crew in Egghead

[dense haven]

linbe too busy carrying boxes

[digital spear]

!linbei

!limbei

[haughty saddle]

Sanji will never be blue

[final trench]

Nope

[digital spear]

!limbe

!linbe

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/486983010025996299/687483842428272695/linbei.png?ex=65dfe8b8&is=65cd73b8&hm=9743371d8a3071c5207e442ec4a4805a66b304538bf68f1946cf5e798e482a59&

[final trench]

Who is truly your favorite character spice

[sleek saddle]

golden hour sanji*

[final trench]

You’re an interesting guy, unpredictable

[shadow knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-sanji-ep1107-funny-gif-6000318421656694977

[charred flower]

I get it, and I agree if that's the case, but most of times Sandman tends to make this kinds of stuff "ambiguous" if it fits his agenda

[digital spear]

I swear they change that command name every single time

[final trench]

Is it jinbei traitor time

The way he interrupted the lucci fight got me pondering

[shadow knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-ai-sanji-dog-egghead-gif-9747162624495917649

[dense haven]

zoro fans when they have to pick a zoro moment that isn't edgy aura farming

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-lebron-james-thinking-pondering-hmm-gif-12573284342549953625

[vale heath]

man i can't believe that the two guys that are protrayed as roughly equal turned out to be roughly equal

[sleek saddle]

!lanji

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/486983010025996299/704967169989148703/Lanji.png

[vale heath]

shocking

[final trench]

Dont be mad zoro is OOZING with aura

[vale heath]

next you'll tell me that the guy that is called the world's strongest swordsman is in fact a very very strong swordsman

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/reyane-zoro-gif-15490872227170785205

Also lets not act like sanji wasnt aura farming pre timeskip

[sleek saddle]

page one is a bum

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/sanji-eneru-smoke-cigarette-gif-20123726

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/view/zoro-vs-enel-eneru-enel-zoro-enel-enel-zoro-gif-24965723

[charred flower]

One of his worst moments

[final trench]

Still ate it

[sleek saddle]

zoro talking smack bout the goat vegapunk

Same dude who saved them in the first place with his satellites😂

[dense haven]

zoro been really cunty lately

[charred flower]

He didn't knew VP, he was off panel dealing with base Lucci the entire arc

[sleek saddle]

If edison died prior to the actual siege NONE of them would be getting outta there

[urban lodge]

Zoro knows he will be revived anyway

[sleek saddle]

he was in the control room with em

threatening york d. fraud

[final trench]

What does this even mean

[dapper tree]

self explanatory

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/view/firestar-fireheart-firepaw-rusty-warrior-cats-gif-3542331399244031195

[sleek saddle]

that had to have been targetted

[final trench]

Whoa

[prisma yacht]

Pasta what's the monkey King

[dense haven]

never forget when zoro was constantly called [this comment is pending moderator approval]

[frozen aspen]

I don't wanna hear anything from this dumbass lol

[dapper tree]

I will become a mod again just to ban the term of the make believe being

[shadow knoll]

this panel made me think that Oda might me doing this to up Sanji votes

[prisma yacht]

[digital spear]

https://tenor.com/view/waow-based-wow-thinking-doodle-gif-12262272166408784207

[stone tulip]

Eh I think it is clear this time around tbh

[charred flower]

Even Zolo agrees

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-nuke-truth-true-soyjak-wojak-gif-14828627546768133163

[digital spear]

SEVEN SIX

What a great Zolo moment all around

[dapper tree]

I miss the real zolo

(not really)

Maybe he really was Galileo

[final trench]

I was gonna say i havent seen him inna min

Where he go

[dapper tree]

Been years

[charred flower]

Yeah, still laugh at that scene... I miss PT Zoro

[dapper tree]

can't believe we only have 2 arcs left

[digital spear]

I like Elbaf Zoro telling Luffy to shut up about Shanks

[final trench]

Facts the glazing gotta stop

Shanks might put him on his pockets if he keep acting like this

[dapper tree]

?

[digital spear]

Shanks kills one of Luffys friends not even because hes evil but because hes annoyed of Luffys glazing

[dapper tree]

kills zoro

[final trench]

Ok ion think he would go THAT far

But he’d probably fight him to show the seriousness of being a yonko

[digital spear]

Well he cant Zoro is stronger

[urban lodge]

!shanks2

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1212095298609094727/1385389375621435564/1385388957809905674remix-1750372965141.png?ex=6855e3e6&is=68549266&hm=cdd84ef0f567684daeb2c140dd63c2ee7c8f17dcabc17dec3e03b9a53a64140f&

[digital spear]

L

[urban lodge]

Official better tho

"Shanks obsessed fool"

[digital spear]

The giant speechbubble with just one little L is so funny

[digital spear]

Youre telling me a Shanks obsessed this fool?

[urban lodge]

Yes

[cold steppe]

Zoro wants that captain attention

[dapper tree]

zoro trying hard to find ways to be relevant when he's not just fighting

[olive sigil]

Mate I am not doing very well at the moment and fell asleep for the night. I’m sorry.

[digital spear]

Also manga users dont kill yourselves from playing connections 😭

I hope youre better soon

[stone tulip]

It’s gonna be like Roger vs Whitebeard type of fight

[final trench]

Yea

[olive sigil]

I was just so excited to play and just collapsed both times

I begged Marin twice to make one and fell asleep both times

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-hit-head-gif-10236285

I hate myself right now

[charred flower]

This is the original one or there is a OP version?

[digital spear]

Ragebaiting yourself is crazy

[tranquil blade]

It's kinda easy to ragebait yourself lowkenuinely

[pine scaffold]

@digital spear W pfp

Saturn is my goat

https://tenor.com/view/egghead-one-piece-luffy-gear-5-gear-fifth-gif-9099369192482374321

[hazy turret]

Was*

[latent hamlet]

He didnt smile while turning around
Its gear serious

[tough igloo]

can’t wait til they spin the block on Imu for their pops

[pine scaffold]

Blackbeard and Loki have the best stocks currently

I wanna invest in Loki but idk if I'd be accepted

[tough igloo]

lol accepted by who ?

[pine scaffold]

Loki community

[olive sigil]

We already have 2 Socrates, I don’t think you can get in

[tough igloo]

almost everybody has been a loki fan since he was introduced .. everybody is in loki community lol

[distant vine]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-awkward-walk-away-slowly-walk-away-gif-250039016308662885

[olive sigil]

In the real Loki community there’s only 2 people

[tough igloo]

Loki isn’t one of those types of characters that stans can play keeps with cause damn near everybody has been a fan since elbaf started

[distant vine]

Imu would turn them into car fresheners ngl

[tough igloo]

people been waiting on loki since thriller bark lol nobody can claim him

[pine scaffold]

True, he hasnt even been in the story for that long

[latent hamlet]

Also
He's a character who received the name Loki

That name alone would get people interested

[olive sigil]

You can be a fan but you can’t be a Socrates level fan

[latent hamlet]

You cant just name drop the Norse Trickster God and not think he's just gonna be a normal dood

[tough igloo]

MCU fans that read one piece who adore marvel Loki , was a stan of OP Loki since his name dropped lol

marvel has made the name Loki so popular that even in other stories , people expect greatness out of any character named Loki and immediately become a fan

[latent hamlet]

Not even marvel its like all Norse related media
Loki is like arguably top 5 most important Norse characters ever

[tough igloo]

true but Marvel is what got him popular as hell

with MCU

[ornate tartan]

shanks using haki knots from before the great pirate era while mihawk is going extreme diff w trump😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

twitter op fans funny ash

[digital spear]

LOL thanks

Merry Christmas Bonney

[pine scaffold]

Are we allowed to make those jokes 😭

[tough igloo]

lol where did the shanks haki knot memes come from? did i miss a chapter or something

i’ve been seeing them a lot

[pine scaffold]

its cuz the haki knot episode came out

the anime fans made a new meme

its not a manga meme

[tough igloo]

ahhhh i see

[distant vine]

They stupid too

[ornate tartan]

hell nah i don’t even think we can not gonna give context

forgot😂

[pine scaffold]

😭 😭 LOL

[craggy vapor]

y’all!

[digital spear]

The joke doesnt really work imo the image isnt even grey

You dont think he died at all

[pine scaffold]

yeah I knew he was fine since the image wasnt grey

ngl thats actually kinda weird

[craggy vapor]

I’m sorry. It was a stupid joke from someone else month ago on reddit.

[pine scaffold]

how we can tell its fine cuz of that alone

😭

[digital spear]

lmaooo

[digital spear]

You dont have to be sorry I know its from someone else

[upbeat yarrow]

here it is, im a journalist now

[dense pike]

the text ruins it icl 💔 its funnier as bait

[upbeat yarrow]

ngl this looked funnier in my mind

[dense pike]

but good job on the grayscale

[digital spear]

Well this one just outright says hes dead

[frozen aspen]

@grok is this true

[cold steppe]

Shake it off

[shadow knoll]

seems legit

[craggy vapor]

delete this. Don’t jinx it.

[stray prism]

rip ill take over now

[grand flower]

What

[mighty shell]

i killed him btw

[scenic dirge]

Holy fucking true and based and real and also balls

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-ai-130-backpack-supreme-backpack-baby-tuff-baby-meme-gif-2218754133828871165

[tranquil blade]

Wow

[muted hedge]

crazy part is that some people believe them just because they're japanese

if they had said the same thing but wasn't japanese they'd dismiss it like any other theory, lol

[tranquil blade]

That message sounds like the result of one too many arguments over Mosa with Earl and that one other fuckass user I forgot the name of

[digital spear]

Wow how do you speak about Pink

[tranquil blade]

It was pink?

I thought it was like uh

[digital spear]

Idk who else

[tranquil blade]

I thought it was like...

[digital spear]

Did Merry do that, genuinely forgot

[final trench]

Facts bro

[final trench]

📢

[latent hamlet]

So here's a thought
Loki was the reason Baldur died which started fimbulwinter which led to ragnarok

What would be the one piece event that would be the equivalent

Loki killing a CD that starts the final war?

[muted hedge]

his release will probably read to an event similair to ragnarok

[final trench]

A holy knight 🤭

[latent hamlet]

loki kills shamrock

[muted hedge]

i don't think a Holy Knights death matters that much to the great extent of the world

[final trench]

But it would to the world government

[muted hedge]

not really

[final trench]

Which is why i think he had a special bounty

He knocked one of em off

[muted hedge]

it would be another case similair to Saturns death

[latent hamlet]

Ragnarok would be the final war but we'd need the fimbulwinter equivalent

[muted hedge]

they'd just get a new one

[final trench]

And shanks brought him back to keep the peace

[latent hamlet]

Something that causes the beginning of the end so to speak

[muted hedge]

Loki said that he didn't get that far

[safe flint]

Any idea what the devil fruit Loki ate?

[muted hedge]

he said that if he did get that far, the World Government would be gone

[final trench]

Maybe killingham dies on the field lmao

[muted hedge]

which, it wouldn't, but still

[latent hamlet]

Some theorize it'd be the animals of loki's kids in myth

Fenrir / jormungandr

[muted hedge]

it feels like those two are very predictable

i'd like if it was something more a kin to Nika, but maybe a forest god or something

given the build up it has had, it has to be something extra special

[dusky kraken]

was thinking about the evil version of luffy's df but it sounds kind of cliche

[muted hedge]

if anyone has that, it would be Blackbeard

and Imu technically already is the opposite of freedom

Imu is oppression incarnate, lol

[dusky kraken]

imu lowkey yeah

[latent hamlet]

U know
Maybe a fimbulwinter start is loki killing an elder and it goes public

Not sure how plausible
But the world would be shook

[muted hedge]

Saturn just died, so i don't think it's likely

[latent hamlet]

Realistically I think it has to be a public event
The final war i dont think would start quietly

[dusky kraken]

Loki will maybe have a df related to some Thor type power since he has a hammer already lol

[muted hedge]

technically the final war has already begun

by Elbaphs invasion

and whatever is going down in Marijoa

[latent hamlet]

True but elbaf is more of a smaller scale ironically enough
Its still contained to just SHs

[muted hedge]

well, Gunko preached that Elbaph was the prophecized key to victory in the final war

so it's likely that Elbaph is that important to the larger scale of it as well

which is why i personally think that Imu will get what they want here

[latent hamlet]

So maybe egghead+elbaf is actually already the fimbulwinter equivalent
The prelude

[muted hedge]

definitely think that it's a prelude, yeah

[hot cairn]

didnt the VP message serve as that

[muted hedge]

Vegapunks message was probably the fimbulwinter

letting the world sink into distress about the future

[mighty quarry]

I think the stuff they're doing it on mareijois is gonna be just as, if not more important and more of a kick start

to the actual final war

we will def see a 5 chap diversion to world events after elbaf

[dusky kraken]

final war needs to have some big thing like ace's execution for the clash to occur like marineford

[muted hedge]

i can't wait to see what's going on in Marijoa

why it was so urgent for Imu to personally come and hurry the operation on Elbaph

as well as why they sent Shamrock back

[dusky kraken]

streets saying bb made a move

[muted hedge]

i mean, it's either Blackbeard or the Revolutionaries

[mighty quarry]

I am betting on BB+ Revos making a huge havoc

[shadow knoll]

wait when did they say Imu's coming personally

[muted hedge]

Imu had to take control of Gunko to hurry the invasion of Elbaph

remember they said that they were sloppy and taking a long time

[shadow knoll]

bb is depleting their food, no?

[dusky kraken]

dragon to make a move

[muted hedge]

no, that's the Revolutionaries

[mighty quarry]

BB has the ability to disguise his crewmate as Saturn too

[muted hedge]

Blackbeard has just been observing what's going down, through Lafitte

[mighty quarry]

that's def gonna be something they'll use

[muted hedge]

probably to get the Seraphim

other than that i doubt anyone would believe that Saturn came back

[shadow knoll]

i mean that's all Imu's gonna do till final war, he ain't coming down on land

[shadow knoll]

yeah mb, that's why the urgency ig

[mighty quarry]

what the hell did they do with all the pacifistas left on egghead

[final trench]

Cartoon fruit

[mighty quarry]

they're still gonna be under bonney's control thereotically

[dusky kraken]

apres elbaph lodestar is next right?

[final trench]

But ive also seen the theory of the fruit being “elbaph” god of war

[dusky kraken]

man with burnt scar

[final trench]

Ye

[dense pike]

possibly

[dusky kraken]

i wonder what kind of arc will lodestar be

[final trench]

My guess rn are
Sunbell
Barbell
Silver axe
Marine

[shadow knoll]

prolly bb vs shanks fight

[dusky kraken]

cause wano egghead elbaph have been all fight war

[dusky kraken]

bb is winning if it is off-screen

[shadow knoll]

it's only gonna be fights till laughtale tbh

Oda is not doing a shanks vs bb fight off screen

that's like one of the most important matchups

[final trench]

If bb vs shanks is offscreen that would just be even funnier

[mighty quarry]

fraudhawk better do something in the post elbar world chaps

[shadow knoll]

i expect a mihawk vs zoro and bb vs shanks post elbaf

[dusky kraken]

always bet on bb if it is an off-screen fight

[final trench]

Shanks got offscreen fights too

Might be evenly matched

[shadow knoll]

also anymore off screen shanks fight is just gonna hurt his repo even more

[dusky kraken]

dragon does not even have any off-screen fights lmao

even tho he is meant to move in secret

[final trench]

Offscreened by bb
Offscreened mihawk fight
Offscreened kaido fight
Offscreened loki for now
Offscreened kidds first encounter

[final trench]

TECHNICALLY he does

[dense pike]

Dragon vs King Bekori (round 1)

[final trench]

He’s a confirmed conquerors user so someone had to fight him

[dusky kraken]

i wonder also when we will get more info about the 4 GOD DFs

[final trench]

Also yea he probably fought akainu offscreen

[latent hamlet]

Ye its probably the fimbulwinter equivalent. Instead of winter its sea sinking the world, and people panicking

but I like the idea of loki causing a trigger too

[pulsar path]

Revs vs BB pirates

[olive sigil]

Is he?

[thin quest]

the Sanji Conq Haki debut is gonna hit like crack

[muted hedge]

i hate offscreens

but i get why they're there

[olive sigil]

Oh sanji

[muted hedge]

it's just so annoying, especially if we get the first minutes of a fight and then it just cuts away

[olive sigil]

I thought this was about dragon

[dusky kraken]

parallels gaban perfectly

[thin quest]

oh no, I'm just pushing my agenda

[muted hedge]

Sanji getting conquerors should be obvious to everyone, in my opinion

[dusky kraken]

just a matter of when

[muted hedge]

literally

[runic dock]

100%

[thin quest]

he's going to be the first SH to hurt a Holy Knight (Saving Robin from Summers in a fun reverse of Wano)

[runic dock]

They ain’t ready for the Gaban paralells

[dusky kraken]

the joyboy backstory will be the best ever imo

[olive sigil]

Why wouldn’t you choose a better agenda

[runic dock]

It’ll be hard to top the tear jerker that is kuma backstory

[olive sigil]

You’re a Robin fan

Go for the coc Robin agenda

[thin quest]

I am very upset Robin didn't get Haki

[olive sigil]

She will

But Franky will have it first

[pulsar path]

Robin unlock coc cus of books lol

[thin quest]

I hope so

[rose brook]

tashigi has haki and not robin

[pulsar path]

Whole chopper lays dead in front of the library

[dusky kraken]

in terms of tragedy, kuma is the saddest. but in terms of action and lore, joyboy might be

[runic dock]

It’s gotta be

[thin quest]

make it make sense

[pulsar path]

Did the spider Zoan on wano have haki that robin faught

[olive sigil]

Chopper hater . Someone punch this lad

[dusky kraken]

robin should have had armament and observation haki by now. lowkey disappointing when she was with sabo and the revs

[pulsar path]

I don't hate chopper Robbin does !

Or she would use her coc for chopper and not books!

[olive sigil]

Robin loves him

[muted hedge]

at this point i think that all the straw hats have haki, it's just invisible for them

[pulsar path]

Than she must use coc!

[thin quest]

Robin was the second strongest SH pre time skip, she's nearly fodder post time skip

[pulsar path]

She beat black Maria!

[olive sigil]

I used to think that Franky was the least likely to get it but now I think he’s the next one to unlock it

[pulsar path]

Or what ever her name is

[thin quest]

no she did but it was clearly a DF v DF contest

[muted hedge]

none of the strawhats are fodder, even though people like to exaggurate by calling them that

[thin quest]

I'm definitely being hyperbolic

[olive sigil]

Unfortunately nowadays it’s all about the wings

[muted hedge]

like even Usopp who gets slandered on the daily, is far from fodder

[pulsar path]

Fishmen karate!!

[charred flower]

Coc Robin Confirmed

[dusky kraken]

Robin is 5th behind Jimbei rn. The wings and luffy top 3 easy.

[olive sigil]

This is the Robin we deserved

[thin quest]

I'm just looking at this panel again, Oda wtf you pervert

[olive sigil]

Nowadays it’s Luffy zoro sanji and then the rest

[pulsar path]

I never noticed that till now

[olive sigil]

Franky is the strongest he just doesn’t show it

[dusky kraken]

jimbei being an ex warlord deserved more attention in some ways but the wings and luffy have a greater ceiling to achieve so understandable.

[muted hedge]

Jinbe the first son of the sea was it?

or wait, it was knight of the sea

[charred flower]

Both

He's the knight and the first son of the sea

[muted hedge]

so i was right

[charred flower]

The theory is that Jimbe is the warrior of the sea, zoro warrior of earth and sanji warrior of the sky

[muted hedge]

first time hearing that, interesting though

[olive sigil]

Franky is the warrior of science

[charred flower]

Also they had titles in certain chapters

Iirc in Onigashima

[muted hedge]

wouldn't Zoro be warrior of hell

[olive sigil]

It’s just a shame that a fishman isn’t allowed to have a high ceiling

[hoary steppe]

ew

[pulsar path]

There were a lot of jinbei haters for a while

[muted hedge]

what do you mean ew

what's ew about that

Zoro is all about hell

[hoary steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/or-yehuda-edgy-or-yehuda-edgelord-gif-25925736

[pulsar path]

Yeah that's Zoro

[hoary steppe]

warrior of ell

[olive sigil]

There are still a lot

[cosmic hamlet]

Ewwwww

[olive sigil]

Also known as Sanji fans

[cosmic hamlet]

Sanji fans hate jimbe?

[rose brook]

im one of them

[thin quest]

I love Sanji and Jinbei

[dusky kraken]

the only reason is the bounty clash with sanji having the lower one post wano

[pulsar path]

I forgot Sanji hates jinbean

[muted hedge]

what's the reason to hate Jinbe out of anyone

[cosmic hamlet]

Fishman racism

[pulsar path]

Smh any one can hate any straw hat is missing a soul 😔

[pulsar path]

Usually people say he's fat and blue

[dusky kraken]

he joined the crew late post time skip that is why he has not clicked with many

[rose brook]

ok i dont hate him but him being in the crew feels forced it would make more sense to have him in the grand fleet

[muted hedge]

we're off to a great start

[cosmic hamlet]

Jimbe gives father vibes

[muted hedge]

funny, given now they all pray and wish that a new member will join every arc

[pulsar path]

I mean we knew jinbei was going to join from Marinedford

[olive sigil]

Because they’re jealous of him. Also racism

[cosmic hamlet]

Like father of the crew

[pulsar path]

That's like ten years to get used to the idea

[dusky kraken]

imagine if yamato joins lmao the hate will be unreal

[olive sigil]

You may even say he’s all blue

[cosmic hamlet]

Wdym 10 years? Dressrosa was 10 years ago

[ornate tartan]

no more strawhat joining other then loki potentially and vivi was already considered a member

other then this the discourse should’ve ended a long time ago

[cosmic hamlet]

Yamato? Carrot?

[pulsar path]

When was Marie Ford

[dusky kraken]

vivi has to join now her importance sky rocketed by 10 with imu's obsession over her.

[olive sigil]

If she joins Karoo joins

[pulsar path]

When was whole cake

[ornate tartan]

atp in the story i think it’s no shot for this to happen

[dusky kraken]

loki should be more of a fleet leader for elbaph like momo will be for wano during the final war

[cosmic hamlet]

2009-10

[pulsar path]

It took jinbei 10 years to join ie

[muted hedge]

Loki and Hajrudin will probably end up leading Elbaph as king given Haralds dying wish

[cosmic hamlet]

We had yamato cover story

[muted hedge]

or well, Loki and Hajrudin

[cosmic hamlet]

Next we will get carrot cover story

[pulsar path]

Na

[cosmic hamlet]

[dusky kraken]

loki will be king of elbaph so that the ancient giant lineage is carried on

[pulsar path]

It will be a n elbaf character

[muted hedge]

Hajrudin and Loki will lead like Harald wanted

arms in arms

[cosmic hamlet]

Really? Harald mentioned hajrudin?

[pulsar path]

End of Marie Ford to when he joined in wano is ten years not years since dressrosaa

[muted hedge]

he did, when he told both Loki and Hajrudin to lead in his place

[cosmic hamlet]

Wano started in 2017 right?

So 7 years

[pulsar path]

Yeah but no bie didn't join till onigshima

[olive sigil]

Next is Sentomaru and Stussy. But carrot will come to Elbaf

[cosmic hamlet]

Oh yeah

[vernal ravine]

i think Loki will be the king hajrurdin will be like his jarul

the right hand

[dusky kraken]

makes sense

[pulsar path]

We never got saki cups for jinbei

[cosmic hamlet]

In the castle in latest chapter?

[muted hedge]

Hajrudins dream is the most potent narrative for what he will become

[pulsar path]

Wouldn't Loki already tooken kingship if he wanted it

[muted hedge]

no

in the flashback

[pulsar path]

I don't think Loki is going to be king

[cosmic hamlet]

I would prefer stuffy/sentomaru cover story over carrot

[pulsar path]

Plus haj dream

[cold steppe]

It'll probably be both. To balance between education and being a warrior

[cosmic hamlet]

I see

[dusky kraken]

i wonder if imu at some point will domi reversi harald before his death....

[muted hedge]

like as much as you want to neglect Hajrudin, it's only silly if you neglect Hajrudins main dream

[cosmic hamlet]

But in the latest he mentioned loki to become king right?

[pulsar path]

Why would he have too

[muted hedge]

yeah, since he was the only one in the throne room and Jarul

[dusky kraken]

want to see domi reversi harald in action even tho there is a lot of domi reversi in the recent chapters

[cosmic hamlet]

Hajrudin has to decide between becoming king and being a pirate captain

[muted hedge]

if that's the case, he'll become king

[pulsar path]

What's happening to Harold is a lil bit different he's basically is Imu

[cosmic hamlet]

He is still captain of new giant pirates and part of strawhat grand fleet

[pulsar path]

It's what happened to Saturn on God valley

[vernal ravine]

would make sense to end like the racism of elbaph blood but don't know, he in luffy's fleet makes me think otherwise

[olive sigil]

I’d love to see carrot again but in the main story. I just don’t think just seeing Zou would be fun

[pulsar path]

Loki and haj will switch , Loki will become the newCapt

[cosmic hamlet]

I don't think imu possesed, harald just got corrupted i think

[cosmic hamlet]

I don't think imu possesed, harald just got corrupted i think

[dusky kraken]

does that equate to harald becoming like the gorosei cause there is a theory that says the gorosei may have been different before coming into contact with imu

[pulsar path]

No that's literally what they said that Imu is taking over his body

[muted hedge]

Imu is controlling Harald like a puppet

[cosmic hamlet]

Yeah, i would welcome carrot cover story if it impacts main story in some way in near future

[dusky kraken]

i feel domi reversi is used in battle

[muted hedge]

domi reversi isn't really needed, given that Harald already sold his soul to Imu by become a God Knight

[pulsar path]

Right he already has control

[cold steppe]

Also Imu has to be present in some way

[dusky kraken]

checks out lowkey

[pulsar path]

Or she

Imu

[cosmic hamlet]

Where?

[dusky kraken]

the famous debate

[cosmic hamlet]

Imu is just controlling harald decisions, its still harald memories

Harald is not possessed completely by imu

[vernal ravine]

hajrudin would be already the king if elbaph wasn't racist actually

[dusky kraken]

ancient giant supremacy lmao

[pulsar path]

Harold is losing control they are just resisting it he's already a extension of Imu as soon as he made the packed

[dusky kraken]

he basically become what the gorosei are today

[final trench]

True

[pulsar path]

Like Harold in no way can resist it for much longer hence telling Loki to get the fruit and kill him

[final trench]

Which is why i think he’ll be king at the end of the arc

[pulsar path]

No gods knight

[final trench]

He’s the bastard child

[pulsar path]

Holy knight what ever you want to use

[cosmic hamlet]

Yeah but these dialogues doesn't indicate its imu talking

[dusky kraken]

yup he has been corrupted

[pulsar path]

Doesn't matter it's Imu will

[cosmic hamlet]

There has been an indication that the seal will slowly corrupt them

[pulsar path]

No he's resisting

Imu can take over with the seal

[cosmic hamlet]

Not denying it, just saying imu didn't possess harald

[muted hedge]

so, Loki didn't kill the 113 guards or whatever it was Harald himself

another lie fallen

[pulsar path]

That's what's ....happening....

He's being possessed by Imu power.

[muted hedge]

so you think that Harald wants to do this?

[pulsar path]

Lol

[cosmic hamlet]

Gaban was blindfolded the entire incident

[cosmic hamlet]

No?

He was corrupted

[pulsar path]

Than that's possessions

[cosmic hamlet]

Its still harald memories, he is just corrupted by seal

[muted hedge]

yeah, since Imu is controlling him via said covenant

[pulsar path]

You can still have thoughts while being possessed

[muted hedge]

Shanks says it outright in the same chapter

Harald can't disobey Imu, he is at Imu's leisure completely

[cosmic hamlet]

Its a bit weird, because its not like imu is controlling every dialogue that harald says. Its just brainwashing at this point

[pulsar path]

I mean you don't know

[muted hedge]

it's not brainwashing

[cosmic hamlet]

Imu does not know about the legendary sword

[muted hedge]

Imu is using Haralds body and commanding his word

[pulsar path]

Is no legendary sword

Viz didn't use that

[cold steppe]

It's more like corruption

[dusky kraken]

it is corruption

[cosmic hamlet]

Let me check official then

[cold steppe]

Harald seems in control, he's just a bad guy now

[muted hedge]

he is definitely not in control

[dusky kraken]

harald has his memories but his decisions are towards the bad side

[muted hedge]

Imu is controlling him, step by step

ever since Harald said no to the giant army, that's when Imu started to control him

he literally can't disobey Imu by any means

[cold steppe]

That's not what the dialogue suggests tbh

[pulsar path]

If he did obey him he wouldn't be losing control either

[cold steppe]

He's obeying yes

[pulsar path]

He's only being taken over cus he rejected Imu request

[cold steppe]

But not being controlled

[muted hedge]

he is being controlled

[pulsar path]

I mean he's having. Thought that are separate form his actions

[cosmic hamlet]

The point is not about legendary sword, this is info imu doesn't know so it came from harald

[pulsar path]

That's being controlled

[cosmic hamlet]

Yeah like negative switch is on

[pulsar path]

Right but go back five panels and he's disagreeing with his body

That's possession

It's really not

[muted hedge]

'am i incapable of fighting back?!'

is Haralds inner dialogue

[pulsar path]

Because Harold is talking through it

[tall wharf]

it seems Shanks find out about Imu, ig he knows everything

[cosmic hamlet]

He is restriction the corruption yes, but it is still turning corrupt

[pulsar path]

No he's possessed if anything while Imu fully corrupt him fi you wanted to be technicale

So maybe by the end he would be considered corrupted

[prisma yacht]

GUUYSSSSSS

CHOPPERRRR DAY

[pulsar path]

But as right now he doesn't understand why his actions are being made that's possession like when doffy controls people with strings.

[cosmic hamlet]

We could say imu is forcefully fast forwarding the corruption by involving but it is not possession

[muted hedge]

he doesn't know about Imu, only about the concept suggesting that there's someone above the gorosei and god knights, and the information about said covenants is probably something he was told by either Shamrock or Garling

[cosmic hamlet]

We can see how gunko memories were corrupted aswell

Imu is just fast forwarding it for harald

[pulsar path]

Ors possession . Harold still is conscious but can't control his body

It's*

[muted hedge]

no matter what it is, it's not Haralds doing

[pulsar path]

No Gunko is brainwashed and her true consciousness is hidden

[cosmic hamlet]

If its possession we would see dialogues such that imu is talking

[tall wharf]

yeah i feel so bad for him to know his family now and that good thing to left them

[muted hedge]

Imu is talking through Harald tho

[pulsar path]

That can happen with possession but isn't necessary

[graceful grove]

https://tenor.com/view/chopper-one-piece-chopper-one-piece-skypiea-gif-8159845697723754323

[prisma yacht]

It's possesion

[muted hedge]

like this is all Imu talking through Harald

[prisma yacht]

CUTIEE

[cosmic hamlet]

Imu is not talking. Why would imu say "i will hand over elbalf to imu"

[muted hedge]

since Imu wants to convey the idea that it's actually Harald, since the others don't know that Imu is the one pulling the strings

[pulsar path]

This

[tall wharf]

it his thinking i think?

[cosmic hamlet]

Interesting

[pulsar path]

It's called acting

[muted hedge]

Imu is the puppet master

[cosmic hamlet]

I doubt imu would go that far

[pulsar path]

Lol what!

[tall wharf]

imu must have a puppet devil fruit

[pulsar path]

Imu needs this one thing to win the war

[cosmic hamlet]

I mean imu is planning to kill them all who are in castle anyway

Doesn't need to act and pretend

[native cloud]

👀

[muted hedge]

Imu isn't planning to kill them, their plan is to subjugate Elbaph to the World Governments orders

that's the order which Harald disobeyed in the first place

[cosmic hamlet]

Kill who are in the castle, not elbaf

[iron oriole]

Harald states nobody will leave alive to tell the tale of this night

[pseudo robin]

https://tenor.com/view/sanji-sanji-dip-dip-one-piece-one-piece-sanji-gif-15028236046378595118

[muted hedge]

i am talking about Elbaph at large, i missed that you said only the castle

[prisma yacht]

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[tropic nova]

LMAOO EMBED FAIL
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[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/sanji-sanji-dip-dip-one-piece-one-piece-sanji-gif-15028236046378595118

[pseudo robin]

oh mb didn't know just joined the server

[prisma yacht]

Then where u disappearing at bro😭

[graceful grove]

my theory is she is with Kuro. she was in such a hurry to send Usopp. even gave him a ship free of charge

[cosmic hamlet]

He doesn't need to act in the castle since he plan to kill them all in the castle anyway

[dusky kraken]

s1 of one piece has one ep left.

[pseudo robin]

because i don't get what you guys are talking about

[muted hedge]

there's also this, that we can add to the Harald being controlled argument

[pulsar path]

I think they wanted to use it as like hello I come in peace

[prisma yacht]

Are u caught up?

[urban lodge]

He's being controlled but it's not Imu talking through him

It's Imu making him evil basically

[muted hedge]

Imu is making his sentences though

[pseudo robin]

nah im in alabasta Xd

[craggy vapor]

Can we expect spoilers this week?

[muted hedge]

so it's technically still Imu's words

[prisma yacht]

U shldnt be here😭

[shadow knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/chopper-little-guy-gif-3613285119497602475

[muted hedge]

they're just spelled out through Haralds voice

[pulsar path]

You wanna stay out of here bud we like 900 chapters ahead of ya sadly

[pseudo robin]

i don't mind spoiler tbh

[dusky kraken]

imo that is when he was inconsistent with imu's corruption aftwards imu straight up corrupted him and he did not fall back like this

[cosmic hamlet]

I'm not denying harald being controlled. You are missing the point.

I'm only denying that imu took the possession and its imu talking.

I'm in agreement with harald being corrupted and being used as a puppet but its still harald but corrupted harald

[muted hedge]

what do you mean fall back? this is his inner dialogue

[shadow knoll]

Aren't some spoilers out

[prisma yacht]

Uhm uhm incoming manga mute @rose rune

[pulsar path]

We are getting possibly an early chapter but it means we won't have a chapter the following week cus we got I early

[iron oriole]

Its not possession in the same way that we have Gunkmu, but Haralds actions & thoughts are possessed by Imu's will

[cosmic hamlet]

Yes but either wednesday or thursday through RAWS

[craggy vapor]

no?

[muted hedge]

this feels like a staircase to being spoiled

[dusky kraken]

for example, imu's corruption was inconsistent and that is why he is wondering why did he cut his guard down. so he still had his own conscience at that point imo.

[tall wharf]

sound like christmas gift for spoliers lol

[muted hedge]

yeah, he has his own thoughts

[dusky kraken]

i feel we need to wait for one more chapter

[fast pagoda]

Imu makes you evil

[muted hedge]

he just doesn't control his actions

[prisma yacht]

It's just one
and honestly I'm starting to think he was just like hyping us up and not giving a hint

[cosmic hamlet]

Nobody is denying that though

[muted hedge]

they just did

[cosmic hamlet]

Who?

[craggy vapor]

I need spoilers or I’m gonna starve

[muted hedge]

the one i replied to

[pulsar path]

Yeah that's possession lol

[wraith mantle]

https://vxtwitter.com/guaguapiu_/status/2003496357626253586

Guuua (@guaguapiu_)

🎅🏻

vxTwitter / fixvx · Dec 23, 2025, 4:02 PM

imu clause

[steel stirrup]

Control your damn self

[urban lodge]

It's more like an infection rather than possession

[pulsar path]

Never have ai ever in the 15 years of being caught up have I read spoilers

[cosmic hamlet]

Hmm, idk but I'm saying its corrupted harald. Harald was turned to evil forcefully

[shadow knoll]

we getting baited even abt spoilers 😭

fml

[steel stirrup]

This is cute

[pulsar path]

I mean someone gotta be pointing the orders even if it's autopilot

Piloting*

[wraith mantle]

do yall want imu to be man or woman?

[urban lodge]

It's more comparable to Doffy puppeteering people

[pulsar path]

I'm leaning towards women

[cosmic hamlet]

Have you not heard the concept of hints?

[steel stirrup]

Nigga you already know

[tall wharf]

my guess is woman cuz want lil body

[craggy vapor]

I’m sorry. I will do better.

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/holding-a-basketball-michael-jordan-mj-jordan-chicago-bulls-gif-16999943

[steel stirrup]

I want my pure evil 900 year old immortal waifu

[wraith mantle]

rich you want imu to be a twink dont you

[steel stirrup]

As long as they are thicc idc

[cosmic hamlet]

Wednesday or thursday.

We get spoilers through RAWS so have to wait till they get to the stores

[shadow knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/ts-pmo-gif-260818307955153253

[tall wharf]

what if imu is woman and that's why she got shaky when joyboy haki

[cosmic hamlet]

Gen alpha kids

[wraith mantle]

why not tuesday like usual?

[haughty saddle]

My ideal woman is incredibly evil, nigh all powerful, and keeps me on her lap like a fluffy cat in a bad 80s spy movie.

[craggy vapor]

here u go

[cosmic hamlet]

Its jump break

[haughty saddle]

I’ll start supporting the global ethnofacist regime if Imu is hot. I’m sorry Oda.

[shadow knoll]

i like to think Imu is the Nefertari queen of void Century

[steel stirrup]

Off by about 800 years but she still bad

[iron oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/mike-myers-austin-powers-austin-dr-evil-doctor-evil-gif-19177199

[tidal ice]

If imu is a woman it would be bible accurate with the root of all evil being a tempted woman bit

[tall wharf]

that would be explain and stare at the portraits

of Nefertari Lili

[shadow knoll]

it's a popular theory

and is kind of already been debunked

[pulsar path]

If anything Imu has Lili body

[steel stirrup]

COME, MR BIGIGGLESWORTH

[urban lodge]

Why would they be longingly staring at a portrait of themselves though

[pulsar path]

Don't know if Imu as a creature is male or female

[steel stirrup]

Patriarchal lies

[tall wharf]

if imu is male and got reject from her and want joyboy

[haughty saddle]

Hey, to be fair, Eve is also the reason we have reason to begin with. Thank you granny 💜

[pulsar path]

Adams always been a dick anyways

[shadow knoll]

narcissism, but i think it's vivi's potrait

[haughty saddle]

Adam was arguably even dumber

[dusky kraken]

imu and lily fighting for joyboy #hmm

[prisma yacht]

😭😭😭😭

[haughty saddle]

At least a cool fucking talking snake sold Eve on the idea

[tall wharf]

probably 2.0 gloriosa and feel ugly when what if lil was pretty like shakky

[haughty saddle]

Adam just said okay after like one question 😭

She didn’t even have to sell him on it

[steel stirrup]

Thats why he got both his hoes stolen

[cosmic hamlet]

[shadow knoll]

imu is just a salty bitch cuz joyboy was cracking another baddie behind her back and now wants to end his bloodline

[haughty saddle]

By his own sons nonetheless. Incredible L.

Incredibly gross L

[pulsar path]

Now how does Adam and Eve tree fit inn

[tall wharf]

wonder no amazon lily were forbbiden mens 💀

[pulsar path]

We have the Adam tree and sunlight Eve tree

[steel stirrup]

His first wife chose up and then his 2nd wife chose up

[craggy vapor]

Imu is a biological woman I think. It doesn’t fit for a man ti chill his life in a girly flower room.

[haughty saddle]

There were two trees in the garden as well

[shadow knoll]

Adam was so gullible about the apple though

like he was woofing for it

[steel stirrup]

Bro didn't even try to push back

[pulsar path]

I remember the theory was devil fruits came from Eve tree or Adam

[steel stirrup]

Adam didnt ask any questions

Just

https://tenor.com/view/eating-eat-eating-food-monster-h-reginald-gif-2362901127389079325

[iron oriole]

Adam was thinking with his tool

[shadow knoll]

men were born to think with their tool down there

[haughty saddle]

According to the mythology, humans ate from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil (Devil fruits) and were cast out after gaining the ability to know right from wrong. There was another tree, The Tree of The Fruit Of Everlasting Life, that we didn’t get to eat from before YHWY cast humans out or whatever.

[pulsar path]

Oh they had wrenches back then?

[iron oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/big-trouble-if-i-speak-if-i-speak-i-am-in-big-trouble-speak-big-gif-23519858

[haughty saddle]

So maybe the Adam/Eve trees will have some kind of tie in to Devil fruits.

[pulsar path]

Straight up sounds like joy boy eating the Nika fruit and becoming the first pirate

[haughty saddle]

Very very much, yes

[pulsar path]

Like literal per story beat

[shadow knoll]

the similarity is really crazy now that i think abt it

[pulsar path]

Maybe not god tho

[haughty saddle]

It’s a rip from the older story from the region, the Epic of Gilgamesh

[steel stirrup]

I wouldn't be surprised if the devil fruits come from the Eve tree

[craggy vapor]

I still want Davy Jones to be the first pirate. Cuz Rocks actually did piraty things

[pulsar path]

Oh yeah he steals final fantasy weapons from all the games I heard that story before e

[shadow knoll]

so OP is the cartoon version of Bible 🥀

[pulsar path]

I'm kidding lmao

[tall wharf]

just wonder all devil fruit is belong to this

[haughty saddle]

But in the Epic, it wasn’t trees and fruits. Enkidu banged a fine lady in the woods for like a week and then went to town for the first time ever and was like “damn bro I can’t go back. I love prostitutes and bread.”

[pulsar path]

True but the way that vegapunk stats is joy boy became the first pirate after stealing the first fruit from the ancient kingdom I believe that's how the story went

[haughty saddle]

And his animal friends hated him 😔

And then he died 😔

[shadow knoll]

just let my man get laid in peace

[pulsar path]

In one piece?

!!

[steel stirrup]

Damn they really didnt have anything better to do back then

Just War or "Love"

[haughty saddle]

But he DID get to kill a giant hog forest god with his husband lover best friend Gilgamesh so life is still worth living 💜

[glacial bear]

I was parked

[steel stirrup]

What a roller-coaster of a life

[haughty saddle]

You worked for a minute then you just kinda hung out bro. Shit was mad chill.

[iron oriole]

Whats interesting is that theres multiple Adam trees, Elbaf just has the biggest & presumably oldest yet we only know of 1 Eve tree, though Neptune did kinda imply that the mangrove at Sabaody could be of the same species

[craggy vapor]

Who’s Enkido?

[tidal ice]

These ancient texts are quite violent

[shadow knoll]

and i like to think that the queen of that ancient kingdom was nefertari

[pulsar path]

I mean idk how when we know she was alabasta queen

[haughty saddle]

A wild man who was insanely strong and capable. He was brought out of the woods by a man who bought a prostitute to him to get him to stop stealing his game iirc

[pulsar path]

The 20 kingdoms worked together to take the ancient kingdom down

[shadow knoll]

good job

[steel stirrup]

If you could dodge dying of dysentery, it doesn't seem all that bad

[steel stirrup]

I stg they were either fighting or the other f word

[pulsar path]

If they had weed I'd be good

[steel stirrup]

You hear me

[pulsar path]

Lots of weed tho lmao

[haughty saddle]

He fought with the arrogant King Gilgamesh who was a terror to his people for like a week straight in the streets. They wrecked the place fighting literally non stop for a week. They got finished, dapped each other up, and became best friends/lovers