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you talkin bout the fighting apes?
LOL
Humandrills
Zoro had to 2v1 S-Hawk you do you champ
yeah that's what I meant 😭
Bb looked like he walked out of the situation better than Zoro did , regarding s hawk , Bb didn’t exactly get pushed back and ended up with boa in his clutches
ohhh S-Hawk
Shawk
also remember than blackbeard got his ass beat by law's teddy bear
S-Hawk
bepo
government name "Shawk"
Shawk vs Shanks, who wins
Big mom got pushed by robins ability
Doesn’t matter
if bepo could beat blackbeard's ass then there ios nothing to expect from him
It’s not like Robin can beat big mom
Luffy sent kaido flying and got 1 shot too😭😭
and law and bepo are so much weaker than luffy its pathetic
blackbeard stands no chance against luffy
Your math isn’t mathing
it wasn't until the seraphim that I realized every (original) warlord had an animal theme
Fuck did Bepo do😭😭
You cant be real
nvm thats not hathor
did you all really not see the anime
Why is the Earl of Warwick here
Man he ain’t even add a pfp he created the account and went straight to trolling
There’s just a lot of assuming going on based on subjective perception
😭😭😭

Idk man I just wasn't thinking 😭
Why is a period here
probably someone who got banned here previously
Are yall hyped for One Piece: Film Blue
dude , this is my first time using discord
starring buggy's daughter who has the same fruit as him
i will get a profile pic later
I got u gang
Bro read "CROCODILE... MiHAWK.... DoFLAMINGO... GECKO Moria" etc & said "hmmm whats the theme" 
instead of it being about luffy its all about buggy's daughter
Heh.
Oda ain’t even try with crocodile he just said fuck it 😭😭
I'm Oda.
I just didn't realize it was every one of them
I picked up on a theme of the 7 cardinal sins first 
Oda is the greatest writer in the century
What’s that
Ngl though just "Crocodile" goes hard
Greed/Lust etc
greed, gluttony, lust, etc
Yes
I the 7 deadly sins just the anime or an alternate name
Its just another name for the 7 sins
And how u pick up on them being based on the 7 sins before then animals
Man U somethin special
Fr
Idk alright
and damn, no gif perms
the shade never ends 
I should really pack it up at this point 
Thanks Unc


Shawk vs Mihawk Humandrill
to embed fail is to have tried posting which is decembers egghead end end december egghead
i love the humandrills
easy monkey W
they beat shanks
s hawk is a bum
THEY'RE APES
personally, i do not see the difference
ME TOO
no tails = ape
Word is that Shanks gave up his arm so he didn't have to face a humandrill
genuinely cannot name a single way in which s hawk impacted the world positively
he looked cool
oh i think i read wrong
I wonder what role the seraphim are gonna play going forward. They seem strong af
Cut a mountain in half
Weapons of mass destruction
they've
already done that
Chat forgettin bout the Three Great Powers in the world
brother got the worst fruit ever + he brings shame to his name + got low diffed off screen + no aura + goofy haircut
Who's replacing the Warlords💔
Yonko admiral now seraphim
He ain't doing anything rn
He's Static Shawk
They're replacing the Warlords bc the turnover rate was too high
No I haven't.
thank you DAWN! my goat
Shawk Shanks redemption?
They went through 3 warlords in one year, that's like a Wendy's constantly switching managers
who's farming the cry emojis
When the seraphim grow up shit gone get wicked fr
I feel obligated to react when someone adds a crying emoji
im planting them, theyre the ones farmin em
Also the warlords dont really do shit anyways, they did not help that much in Marineford
If they grow up its game over
Ngl i'd be pissed as the Navy/WG if some random kid showed up & started beating my Pirates i hired to act as Warlords 1 by 1
warlords were a net negative on society
i see funny i drop "😭"
I just realized the seraphim also bout to be tall as fuck
Knowing how s-snake is about luffy's size rn😂
They bout to be as tall as Whitebeard or some shit
taller than kuma type shit
Holy shit
Endgame ass team
S bear… dear lord 
Yea but honestly thatll likely be resolved pretty easily since he just wasnt aware of it. He already knows how to use ryuo
Except for jinbei and mihawk, I think most of the seraphim are above their counterparts.. seeing how they get lunarians power and a new/different devil druit
Well, Oda did want the Warlords to be central antagonists
This is the way to keep that going
I wonder how long the Seraphim have been around for, sure we got the abolishment of the warlord system recently but they probably were around for a while to do tests to make sure they're a good enough replacement first
S bat will probably remain in the Prime Moria shape too 
S-BEAR???
Sbear
where do you get
bat from
cus his aesthetic is bat
Dont you remember?
its in his name
Gecko
The forgotten warlord
Like how seraphim doffy
Bat Jones
Moria could be S-Bat or S-Gecko
Deffo s gecko
seraph crocoboy
I lean S-Gecko
that cover story in wano where they were at his grave 
my most GOATED pre-ts arc
dawg theyre pretty much as tall
idk why you makin it out like Moria towers over Kuma
Kuma is taller isn’t he?
Probably more S-Bat cause of the Japanese naming scheme
knowing they're as tall as them rn
😂
knowing they'll be taller when adults
ggs
mihawk my short king
Geckos hair make him taller
I'll give him props for being normal
yeah ik
and i said for s bear
then you for some reason told me to forget about S bear and think about S gecko, as if S gecko will be magnitudes taller than S bear
S-Clown 
Franky blew VP's mind
Mihawk is normal height if ur in the league
trust me. s-gecko will be the lead seraph.
Cant wait for us to get
S-Croc vs Croc
S-Flamingo vs Mihawk
S-Gecko/Bat vs Buggy
this hard ngl
s-gecko... is a goat.
Wait this is kinda fire
like the og moria.
S-Croc about to cook with Magellans fruit
still, he made it out like it was a stark size difference
could go either way since his aesthetic is bat
Do u think s gecko will become fat like Moria
No
S-Loki
Bruh
Moria knows about GV

potentially
that would be diabolical
s-giant
Just imagine the power
Better
Insane
Tree Top > Roof Top
S-Dragon (its Kaido)
S-Giant vs Loki
with Burgess' DF spliced in
Peak
Truly
Lowkey i hope King adopts most of the Seraphim
Cloud Top clears
Loki needs to have a kid with a fishwomen, and then we create an S-version of that kid. Strongest being of all time.
king bout to reclaim his race
He really is probably the most dangerous one
Holy shit true
Cant be hurt and he can use poison that powerful, kinda unbeatable
aw that would be fire
Its more than likely his DNA that makes them Lunarians
So they'll be like his children/siblings
unc what's the wisdom of the day unc
World Top will be the best 
We know for a fact it’s his DNA that’s in them
True
Dw I’m sure he’ll have kids, and he definitely won’t listen to any elbaf elders about who he can and can’t marry
Dont eat yellow snow, its not lemonade snow
Usopp will lead the citizens to accept their own warrior ways
Yeah I'm not worried Loki already shows how he wants to marry
Ju Peter sand worm fight in the red desert will be generational
will he find someone like lola again
Loki marryinf shirahoshi
We’re gonna be seeing people getting thrown off the red line 🤣
“Ring out”
that's his lil mosa 
I do want some ancient giant fishmen hybrids
Neptune
poor big pan already forgotten
That’s like, 100% going to happen. Why else have one of the big bads have a SAND WORM fruit and then place some random ass desert in the middle of the likely location for the final war
bro imagine if imu just places a barrier around mary geoise and says like
If Usopp gets future sight, that match up is locked in
"Ay whoever gets kicked out last loses"
and everyone has to fight for the death
raid boss ju peter would be pretty cool to see in the finale
We have one
Loki fruit theory
I can't wait till we get to the truth of them alcohol bridges
No we don't
Usopp and Chopper desert fight again
watch this dude loki not even have a zoan fruit😂
This just looks like a mid version of Kaido
watch loki have two fruits
one in him
one in his hammer
Lmfao I literally thought that was Kaido 😭
He is a Wotan, which is Giant x Fishmen
That’s Loki??
Yeah Idk what they were thinking
loki is basically kaidul
Oh
Loki wishes
kaidul
I said Ancient Giant
Kaido look a lot like Harald too
Loki has a better design than kaido
Poneglyph Kaido

Kaidul was too good for onepiece
Kaidul... was too great.
True
You said Giant
loki fans are more hyped for his fruit than oda
Edits dont count my friend
Doflamingo - Bird Cage
Imu - Demon Prison 
Liar
watch imu pull out his book and whip out a random technique
I’m hyped af for his fruit. It’s been one of the most hyped up secrets of the arc so far
Vincent is hyped too
"Sacred Technique: Demon World Prison"
Wrong imu's version is the entire sinking world. We have always been in his birdcage
good!
“Ahh this technique I haven’t used since the void era”
He 100% ate the fruit
posting loki art till christmas
oh definetly one of the most hype things and it's probably gonna live up to it
having differing opinions is a natural part of this world
let's hope it's not boring
Yeah
chat i gotta start the grind again
I’d be pretty disappointed if he didn’t actually eat it
I'm not gonna waste time tyring to change people's opinions
Same
I just have to wait
we're an hour in
The real question will be if it’s power is revealed next chapter or the one after that or if Oda will keep teasing us
“Davy’s Locker”

blackbeard willl lose against luffy , he is a miserable weakling
Loki ate the chainsaw fruit that is forbidden because they live in a tree
ill be good with anything other than a mythical zoan
It seems like you might need the fruit to wield Ragnir so 
"Ancient Technique: Revival of Rocks"
gimme a fun logia or paramecia
imagine if loki has a special paramecia
Never give up
all luffy has to do is use conquerors , negate blackbeard's powers and he one shot him
All I can do is mythical zoan
Loki has Davy's Will, Legendary DF, Ragnir, Special Eyes, and Mural Presence
I think he skips the actual reveal for when we're back in the present
"Ancient Void Century Technique: Army of 10,000 Men: Gallilea"
Mural relation to the giant serpent on the right side
imu bout to pull out ANYTHING from their ass to win
Idk why you're trying to be sarcastic about it
not the horned giant on the left
Ragnir stealing the fruit out of Loki's hands and that's how we see how objects eat it lmao
people would be mad
That’s not a jack of all trades then lol. More like a king of all trades
Oda gives them both the same pattern
i hope ragnir actually has a current wielder that's fat and old as fuck and steals that shit from loki before getting his ass beat
That's aura

Wano gave us enough of these...'
Aura Aura no mi will be real
no Logia opps in a long time 💔🥀
woe, another 6 mythical zoans upon ye
secret decrepit old guy living in the elbaf kingdom aurust castle treasure chest room beating the shit out of anyone coming by
No more villains with seemingly "lame" devil fruits doing their best
socrates do you think loki will come to laugh tale next arc
At least the gorosei likely are just part of Imu's fruit so they arent 5 separate mythical zoans
Mythical Logia if Oda was based, just make up some shit idc
The spirit of mythical zoan still exists, sadly
Even if they aren’t actual fruits, in essence they’re still mythical zoans
No more mythical zoans
harald's secret twin brother
"Prince Gerold"
who seeks to become king who was locked in that same room for an eon
There's too many
Haki hack
Do y'all think Urouge and/or Enel coming to Elbaph?
Too many people in one piece want to be Furries
Put a logia in there somewhere
Where do you get
Enel
from
No and no. Enel never, urouge maybe next arc
Imu has the Haki Haki no Mi
Urouge is up in the Heaven realm trust
Enel vs Ragnir would be sick
Give me a wind logia, an earth logia, hell I'd take a cloud logia
Unfortunately, the mural kinda hints at enel related stuff
Remember when it was just Marco and Sengoku and everyone loved mythical zoans. How turn tables
Dragon has wind
He's gonna have to tame ragnir to use it
Loki vs Enel would be like Zoro vs Mr. 1
Not confirmed yet
Its fated
Loki already tamed it and it doesn't look like it's going anywhere
For all I know Dragon has another mythical zoan with wind abilities
The part where Zoro one shots Mr 1 maybe
Holy preg reaction
there's a story on venom dripping from a serpent onto the bound trickster god Loki as punishment for one of his actions
His wife, Sigyn, attempts to catch the venom in a bowl, but whenever she must empty it, the venom falls on Loki, causing immense pain and making the earth shake
loki's ancient ragnir technique: "auto-pilot"
easys
awakened zoans are the strongest devil fruits and the coolest ones
enel'll never tame it
no
Yeah I agree 100%
Enel might find out something on the moon that necessitates a trip to the Blue Sea
It’s wind, trust, it’s why he can pull Sabo out of the water
Enel bout to come back after 2 years as the apparent Warrior God of the Moon and become a sixth member of the five elders
All them Nika worshippers, he might already be there fr
Of all reasons to think it’s wind, that’s the main one for you? 😭
Callin it noww
Gunko’s is cooler than most mythical zoans shown
That's the hope 
What by making some type of reverse vortex to pull him out?
Probably because her powers are more than just "big blast"
It’s the main reason to think it isn’t a zoan 
Kinda sounds like the burn scar man idk...
yes she is , gunko is the best character in the arc
No, he’s floating over the water in an untransformed state
That belongs to loki
And like 5 other characters
Yall wank Lunko too much
Huh
what is bro talkin about
Gaban
U cant even do it right
is he good
Gaban is alright
He’s gotta be floating in top right, so it’s wind. 
@ashen rose do you think loki will one shot harald
Does not stop it from being a myth zoan unfortunately
Harald is underrated
He should need to be transformed to float 
a very flawed character, but a good character
because you can still use some abilites of your myth zoan in base form
loki bout to use the sacred incineration technique and burn harald alive
Probably, not because of strength, but because oda doesn't want to make a fight scene
i'd say he's pretty fairly rated, not under or over
most people recognize he's strong af
Marco didnt need to transform to heal people so... idk man
yeah that's the only thing they recognize, lol
misled into his own demise despite a respectable goal 🥀
Harald big dumb
Like u
True


Harald VS Shanks/Gaban cause destruction and slash marks on the castle, Loki finishes Harald
or
Loki hits Harald, forcing Imu to power Harald up and their fight causes destruction and slash marks on the castle
but if Dragon is a logia I will be happy, and I can finally get on Bean for downplaying him
Orochi was still multi-mortal without being transformed too
mythical zoans have like passive abilities for some reason
I'm glad Loki already got a clash in with Harald
Mythical zoans just keep their powers in base ig
Loki's first clash I'm so proud
just make a poll twin
I don't do polls I'm not from #manga
Next week we're going to see Loki tap into his new found power
aura
this is just me thinking of two possibilities lmao
Facts
Dw bean lost his powerscaling license years ago when he said mindless kuma > thriller bark/sabaody kuma
Break week
A 3rd one is zoro vs harald
either Loki finishes Harald off after a fight or Loki is the one who fights Harald
I hope you guys are ready for the fattest fucking silhouette or tease at the end of next chapter lmao
Yeah WSJ break not Oda break
Well he did used to say that Kuma wasnt much stronger than a pacifista
Maybe my goat is washed...
what could Lokis legendary fruit even be
THAT MAN
it's been built up to heaven and beyond
im so confident we wont find out what the fruit is in this flashback
Controlled Harald seeing the light as Loki executes him:
the expectations are so high right now
THAT piece, featuring THAT character
Not sure we'll see
oda will blueball the reveal as long as he can
they're impossible to meet
Idk why Oda would reveal it here though
ZKK IS DEAD
ZKL IS DEAD
ZKH IS UPPP
Lots of reasons outweigh Oda revealing it here
Somehow Oda will hide Loki's fruit until he fights Imu
Gonna be the gomu gomu no and he’s gonna bazooka Harald off the island out of range of the abyss circle
Nah, he'd be proud of him
i mean you would think it would help loki kill harald
It will be revealed soon for sure. Either fb or present.
Zoro simply got lost and saved loki and co
What is this referring to? Oda said something?
he can't be anymore
Yeah it obviously will
Loki’s fruit reveal
Harald lowk lost his mind to imu's control
We're seeing the man with the burns scar this year
bro is not fighting that shit off like rocks did
Do people still believe in Loki's fruit being the real gomu?
I feel like thats just not happening
that would be something
Rocks had a baby contract compared to this
Maybe. Oda has failed to deliver on these promises in the past
not sure that it would live up to the hype
How would that be a world ending threat of a fruit?
Luffy has the stronger version of that anyways
"one piece will end in 5 years"
Deka Deka no Mi: Model, Ancient Giant
It’s still in the cards. Would make sense to prevent ragnir’s lightning from hurting you. 
dont cook
Don't slander my goats
harald
loki
or oars
because it was swapped
Exactly idt he really knows what plot threads he will and won't get to
Not showing his fruit powers next chapter would be unbelievably wack
loki always thought he had the nika zoan but it was swapped for the gomu
It'll be like some mythical zoan creature that is resistant to lightning I just know it
do yall keep forgetting
I'm not too hyped for the reveal idk why, I'm not a fan of any of the main theories
there are more salient ways to slander that man
copper golem fruit
some kinda mythical rubber being
watch Oda introduce a new god who functions like Nika, lol
the gomu gomu no mi doesnt exist
in the devil fruit encyclopedia
you dont exisst
There's no hope
i do
none of you are real
like One Piece: Film of Gods.
I am I'm the only real one here
if you think then you are
ya know what is real? The one piece
send proof
loki surtr zoan for sure
can we get much higher?
you know what is real..?
buggy supremacy.
I think I am someone who believes the gomu gomu exists. Therefore it exists
Let me cook
What if Dragon is the only Mythical Logia, Spirit Spirit no mi, model: Sylph!
What are the big logias we haven’t seen yet? Could be earth or water fruit for Loki
Pops wouldn't do that
i doubt that water would be a thing
blood
Bee
bee
I hope a water fruit exits and the user just passes out whenever it is used
bee logia

rayleigh it's so peak.gif
trust. elbaph is sanji's power-up arc.
I don’t think we’re really gonna get earth. We’ve already got multiple land assimilation fruits now. GB is essentially all of “nature” etc…
that's the one 
Only logia I’m like certain we’re getting is wind, likely through dragon
i have a feeling that Dragon will get a mythical zoan
purely because of the recent developments
I think wind logia is very boring
No i just figured out what Dragon has
that face tat might be the burn scar they were talking about...
👆
going to the sea world
I hope it's a weather paramecia
I am in the Dragon has wind camp
Quetzalcoatl Zoan
Special logias when
But it's gonna be another mythical zoan
usopp's glow-up.
Yes
If Oda can make it a Zoan he will, I’ve already accepted this fate
that man got fine
Oda got tired of drawing Usopp's ts muscles midway through FMI and never drew them ever since
I would say Blackbeard but he'll somehow have like a secret mythical zoan of the moon god or some shit
Oda HATES Usopp
I really hope that doesnt happen
Real
Yea Yami is gonna be a mythical. 
Toei whitewashed my bro
I don’t think Dragon will be zoan because his powers were decided before all the newer zoan stuff. Oda could always change it though
the yami already functions weirdly
I mean, nothing has been decided at all given Oda has shown practically nothing with his powers. Any idea Oda may have had for his powers back in chapter 100 can easily be changed
Coz he hasn’t established anything to be inconsistent with
when luffy meets dragon i might cry 🥹
Other than there seems to be a general “wind” theme involved
Why are we downplaying the best character and best fruit here
Buggy
Mythical or Special Paramecia
Well Luffy sure as hell ain’t gonna cry so
BUGGY?!?!?!?!
what's the idea on why Blackbeard can't become darkness?
😭
what if it’s a normal ass npc Chinese Dragon
Whoever made that meme has not even read the full double spread, let alone One Piece in general. Oda usually doesnt care about drawing muscles at all, you can see that on Luffy too
I'll cry enough for the both of us 😭
Based /j
well ahkyually luffy is rubber so his muscles dynamically change 🤓
Luffy is drawn with muscles very inconsistently in the series, though I remember him being very muscular looking more often in act 1 & 2 of Wano
Poor Usopp he lost his muscles
Oda isn’t consistent with general sizes and you expect him to be consistent with each characters muscularity too?
How selfish one piece fans are
bb's teeth change every appearance 😭
yeah, because he was completely shirtless
Thats because theres multiple BBs
would have looked weird if he was thin then
it would be a pain for him to draw every muscle fiber on every panel
because his teeth atee the Shift Shift fruit
they shift around randomly
expecting consistency from oda in 2026
Yeah but Luffy is not always drawn muscular when he's shirtless either tho, look at gear 5
in Egghead
thats because gear 5 luffy is generally goofy
Do y'all think reversi and pacts are basically the same power. Where reversi basically forces a pact on someone
he doesn't really need to form that much muscles
reversi = demons
pacts =
imu saying you are theirss
whatever it is, i don't think it's devil fruit related
𝓯𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝔂
Similar but not quite the same, contracts are stronger imo
though, Oda isnt consistent with shirtless Luffy either
What if the Gorosei are working for Imu against their will
they prolly are
I think pacts are better just because it seems like haki cant disable the immortality entirely like it can to domi reversi
idk if the strength increase is as big though
yeah I was about to post this
i don't think they work with reluctance
because domi reversi makes you way bigger
this one is crazy actually
idk if the contracts gives you the same strength buff
Sure but what I'm wondering is if it's the same basic power
I mean basically yeah, you get stronger and immortal but you have to obey Imu
you will never see this get posted, because its Usopp that is easy to slander and meme about
damn Oda truly does not give a fuck
Not a muscle to be found here
except you have like slightly more agency with a contract
Tbh this works better for G5 with how everythings toony & for comedic effect etc, muscles fall under that too
gear 5 luffy is a goofball
Until Imu decides to take ts away too
he got toggleable muscles
They’re both contracts, one’s just more exclusive and better
Lmaoooo
yea but this is non g5 Luffy too kierran
Bro says "MUSCLES ON" and off
the point is that Oda has never given a shit about these things lol
I think generally Imu lets them keep their personalities unless they start disobeying orders
Yea i agree
Like Sommers for example was probably always like that
Yeah for none G5 its weird but idt it really matters
Though it really gets better starting with the Deep Sea pact
But the very second them mfs try to tell Imu "no" its over with for em
oh yea I think it doesnt matter either, just weird that this is something that Usopp gets slandered over
when its an artstyle thing
they're selling their soul to Imu, literally
"Man, fuck you imu" as harald's mind gets taken away and proceeds to slaughter everyone like they're opps
there are much more important things to slander usopp over
it's a literal version of selling your soul to the devil
Couldn’t beat a random Elbaph cat
what if instead of a deep sea pact there was a gleep sea pack and instead of taking over your mind it made you silly and go like 😛 mlleeeh
Which is why I'm wondering if Shanks losing his arm actually matters
is that just joyboy?
Glorp sea
I think I've got that one
"Fuck me? Yea ight, watch this!"
i think it does, just because he was only a devoted blade of god and not a full on knight
luffy's convenant
That's luffy's pact
gworl im so whimsical 
If i were Imu, my brand would be on your very soul or neck, fuck the arm.
tattoo on anywhere you want on yo body
You been sipping wine today?
Rocking that shit on your back would be cold as fuck
i mean, they're probably somehow linked with your soul given that Shanks says that even the devoted blades of god can't disobey when they're close enough to Imu
i wish
Ngl if the contract could easily be removed like that, i wouldn't put it on someones arm
wine is yummy
people are suggesting that Luffy will be able to share his Nika abilities
whiskey clears
water >>>>>
…where would you put it
i wish i was drinking this more
rum neg diffs
if the spirit doesn't start with W whats the point
i don't think that the mark on the arm is what grants Imu the power over you, it's just a stamp that you're essentialy theirs to control
Neck? If they want it removed they have to die
Well you win this one
Yea that's what I mean. It shouldn't be that easy but it probably is. I sometimes forget just because I wouldn't do something does not mean Oda has the same reservations
okay so when harald gained the upgrade why did bro gain the premium benefits
Curse Mark Shanks
Ex-fucking-actly
Upgrade to a Knight of God gave that dude more benefits than someone using a simple membership
immortality
increased strength
abyss summoning
Imu isn’t very smart
since he was granted the boon of become a Knight of God, before that he was just a devoted blade of god which is essentialy just you being noticed by the gods
Thats all im saying
then you need to pass their trials in order to prove yourself worthy of the powers granted in the next covenant
is this real?
Pretty much anywhere on the head
They're like a lil child
for example, Shanks didn't pass his final trial whatever that was supposed to be
Stelly, but worse
If your powers can be cut off once they cut their arm off, why not put it somewhere where they can't cut it off
yes
Ijs if I was Imu, my brand is going on the neck or your very soul itself
they aint ready for the awakened muggy ball
like i said, i think it is linked with your soul
the mark on your arm is just that, a mark
It not being on the neck makes me think that the actual mark location doesn't matter, once you have it you belong to Imu
they aint ready for buggy's awakened world-rending bara bara special
one-handed slash that cuts the world
I know but once that mark is removed you lose all that time you just spent investing in a potential HK
So Shanks is still Imu’s puppet
It doesn't seem so
Shanks could very well still be controllable, if Imu is close enough to him
shanks lost his arm
wouldn't surprise me if that comes along later down the line
But then again, Shanks hasn't been anywhere near Imu since he lost his arm, so theres no telling.
the one with the mark
I unironically think Buggy will discover the One Piece moments before Luffy, realize Luffy needs to have it, then get out of there
But not before his crew sees him find it first
Shanks being close to Imu and Imu ordering Shanks to do something against his will
It shouldn't be that easy
i think the pacts are not limited to the marks
If Shanks survives BB, him still being controllable by Imu could be how we get Shanks vs Luffy
once you're marked you can't unpact yourself
luffy gets the one piece
morgans puts it in the paper that buggy found it first
without imu's interference
for sure
Shanks seems to have gotten away scot free
this would make for a fitting reason why Shanks never returned to Marijoa after this
Unironically i see luffy being pronounced pirate king but buggy will be the one who's in the paper that's claimed that to have found the one piece itself
As it stands idk how we'd get a serious fight between Shanks & Luffy otherwise
since he knows that Imu would control him
shallow sea pact lets you move as free as you please but once you're in effective range of imu and the god knights you're at their mercy
Is that something that you want?
its just weird for oda go thru the symbolism of marking the exact arm shanks lost later
I mean Luffy said he would do it
Yea i mean the part where losing his arm breaks a soul pact
Morgans would def do something like that
it has to mean hes out of imus control
upscale ts dude
it could just be a sacrifice, as he said
yeah like i said i don't think imu is going to take such half measures in his spells
its clearly retconned
maybe the whole reason why Shanks didn't eat the fruit, is because he went on to form a pact with Imu
it would make a lot of sense

Seems like a plot hole to me ngl
Imu got a grimoire like they from the Clover Kingdom
True. I didn't really assume he meant like a serious fight to the death he just wanted to be able to test his strength against him and also understands that Shanks will eventually be an enemy because they are both fighting for the same ting.
it could just be classic oda foreskinning. cause Luffy will beat imu which would free shanks
final fight would be luffy vs imu possessing shanks' body
i used to think there's no reason for luffy and shanks to fight but now with the pact thing it seems plausible
"You took control of my friend!"
"GEAR DEATH"
luffy puppeteers shamrock, imu puppeteers shanks
JJK CLEARS ONE PIECE
Idk about allat
son

black flashes wouldn't do SHIT to him
ur goat can't cut through basic armament haki btw
Haki is negating all those techniques fym
and the conversation is derailed
Bait
XMASB:
Luffy gonna open the 8th Gate 🥀
the closest thing to haki in jjk is black flash
trust
I might apply for helper just to be able to delete shit like this bruh
I think it’s way more likely that Shanks is out of the pact from his arm being cut, and Imu is just dumb/or has no control over where the mark goes
Well idt Luffy would want it to be to the death either but still wants a serious fight vs Shanks, he believes he has to as part of becoming the PK but as of rn idk if Shanks would actually fight seriously vs Luffy.. like he'd probably "try" but let Luffy beat him type shit
why bro that's just a realistic mink
That’s exactly why
But then again this makes me think why couldn’t Harald just tell them to cut off his arm
Harald has the regen now
Blades of god don't have regen
i don't think that cutting off the arm severed the connection
Cutting it off is probably a Shallows contract only thing
i'd agree, if it wasn't so that Imu could control them within a specific range
when you take that into consideration, it must be something bound to your soul
Yea thats sounds very possible
Incoming twist where we find out shanks is still under imu control if he’s close enough

He probably is
I mean yeah since you're immortal from depths covenant and on, no matter how much you try to cut off the mark it'll just regenerate back
Don’t let shanks get close to imu
I kinda doubt it tbh, unless like the lord of the coast didnt bite the whole mark off
i don't think it's tied to the arm specifically
I’m sure it did , it would just be a case of “the power is deep in your blood now”
yeah same
With whatever method Loki is about to use to kill him, but it probably doesn’t allow for that
Maybe too much to explain allat
If it’s not , that may be a future reveal and something people could bet on till it’s revealed , it may never be revealed , but if it did that’ll surely be shocking
now that i think about it, i think saturn got burnt to death because imu forcibly removed his deep deep sea pact (if that's what he had)
Because visually we’d be under the impression he’s safe
yeah
it would be a great plot twist, if Shanks ever comes close to Imu in the future
and Imu just takes him over
It’d be an interesting experiment
maybe you have to cut it off with acoc and then it gives you a small window to do some damage. cause the way gaban told luffy to pay attention to the way he uses his haki it seems there's some specific way you have to go about fighting them
I think it’s because of his age
so far the only way to fight them is with just a lot of haki it seems
and even then, Sommers got back up
nope, he got burnt by black flames before he was reduced to a skeleton
Even then , that’s a band aid at best , even when Roger and garp poured all their MASS they still didn’t kill rocks
He's probably gonna blast him with Conq + DF + Ragnir
yeah
thought it did let the evil out, or whatever
I just remember him rotting. Let me go look back at the chapter
Strong Haki is a good start but it needs to be someone of one two punch
Combo of abilities
Loki's fruit could be some sort of counter
Could be the two
something maybe to manipulate mass?
Or Ragnir
In the one two punch
yeah it could be
Saturn burned away yeah
i was thinking it could have the power to halt the regeneration
to a degree where you would be able to finish them off
It’s like the power left his body and his age caught up to him lol
So old sack of bones
it's exactly like Xebec, though Xebec wasn't too old
but the same energy also left Xebec
Yeah that’s what I was thinking
I'm of the opinion that when a contract is removed, any damage that was regened over the period of being under contract comes back in one go & just burns you to dust
Ya think thats what it was implying
That could be the case too as well as age if age is applicable
True
Ya Saturn was over 200 years old
I would’ve guessed he was around in the VC
I wonder what would happen to gunko
or at least one of the other 4 gorosei are from the VC
she'd probably age rapidly as well
Something gooner adjacent
I dont think any of the gorosei are from vc since they don't take nika so seriously until the very last moment
We dont know for sure but he's at least like 250+ since he looked the same as he did in the present during the mini Emet flashback 200~ years ago
they treat it as a myth
That’s an interesting thought
I remember in an anime canon moment they say warcury says something specific about Nika
I could see 1 or2 still being from void , like Gandhi or something
We can add at least 50 onto that because he looked the same
I think it was something along the lines of Luffy having not reached his true potential with the Nika fruit
But I can’t remember
I dont think they'd be saying the fruit is a myth to them if they saw Joyboy using it
best bet is Gandhi just cause of his clothes
i mean, it was a myth to even awaken the powers of Nika
they doubted that Luffy would do it
that's why they didn't take him seriously i guess
Spice is saying they never did see that
I know
Warcury said this so it made me think he was around for the VC
I'm agreeing with him I guess
Not sure though
was that in the manga?
Oh ok mb lol
It’s could just be info from imu
I think its either Warcury or Ethanbaron V. Nusjuro as potential VC members
Gandhi and warcury could see being from void
They’re the toughest seemingly
Anime logic
Idk though
Nusjuro definitely
I think some of them could be like 500 years old but idk about void century old
we know that none were replaced in recent memory, before Garling
I’m curious about Peter since he’s number 1 and looked a bit younger at least in older one piece
Ethan gives intern vibes idk
it's also curious that we didn't see a supreme commander of the God Knights before Garling
like wasn't there one?
Presumably there would be
They were probably fodder anyways
Unless Saturn just controlled the HKs as part of his defence job
some npc
Could be that the HKs are a more recent addition to the WGs forces in the last ~100 years or so
I've long thought that the gorosei aside from garling were from the void century
though I guess that doesn't have to be true
So they were all "competing" for the Supreme Commander position etc
How dare you make fun of saint Roswald Swanson, the previous head of the holy knights who beat up 14 slaves in one slash. What a terrific guy. He’s unfortunately out of service these days
I doubt that
Saint Rick Sanchez
but maybe u are right about them competing
like the previous one could have just died
if there was one, it was strange that they weren't on God Valley
Idt its strange
He had recently retired
He lost his ability to walk on a freak accident
they should've at least been present
I want my general to be the first guy in front charging at the enemy
Well if they can communicate via telepathy, its unnecessary
Can they?
No reason to think they cant, Gorosei can between eachother & idt it would be an Abyss tier only thing for a minor ability
i mean watching your soldiers perform
I mean Imu can communicate with Harald telepathically so why not the Gorosei too?
We know the gorosei can
Saturn said he didn’t know nika fruits powers were so crazy so idk
Saturn literally did it on Egghead
they probably can
And even when we learnt about the nika fruit they was talking about the wg like they wasn’t part of the decision made
I feel like that’s because they’re all just extensions of Imu
Then are the HKs not an extension too?
but i meant, if you were a supreme commander of the God Knights wouldn't you want to be present while they held this heinous competition
Not if they were competing for my spot potentially tbh
You have participated in it for the past 300 years, maybe you just want to sit back in the holy land and drink blood while watching it on the big screen
Where is the Saint Nick celestial dragon
For me Saturn is confirmed not from the vc just because of this
Claus' world is not yet complete
Saint Nick but he acts like krampus
yeah he may not have been in the voice chat
What if Krampus was a dude who got Domi Reversi’d
Damn
Must’ve been Saint Nick
Anybody knows what’s the latest colored manga chapter?
Like 1065
Why did oda make a yeti a holy knight?
the hk are seen aging
When are we getting a grinch yokai
Oh they’re that far behind
Maybe that’s Gatling
Damn
Yeah very behind
only the gorosei and gunko seem to possess immortality
Because of the gif
yall ready for laugh tale next arc?
Btw do you read from right to left or left to right
From the Ope Ope trust
When reading one piece
yeah Idk what takes them so long
Oda will throw crucifixes all over his manga but too scared to include mythical Christian characters smh
at this rate that theory is dead
Right to left
What gif
Its not
the only person who could have possibly gotten the surgery is imu
Nothing is ever dead
100 chapters is too much not even worth reading colored atp
tell that to WB and ace
Imu would get plastic surgery that vein bitch

That would be so cool
I mean, it's still 1065 chapters, you'll just have to switch to black and white when you get there
They're alive, you only die when you're forgotten
Facts: Imu has gotten a bbl but nobody knows bc he never leaves his house
LOL
earl are you ready for laugh tale
Wait until the mirror room reveal
I’m ready for lodestar
Imagine that but with a summoning circle
Is fact, Imu got the cake
I’m ready for vira
THUMP….
Imu dresses in all black so noone can admire it. Sad!
thump is the sound of imus fat ass
Imu got that thump
Imu thicc
man I'm so hyped for present Elbaph
What is that sound!?’ It’s deafening!!
Is it the great ones haki!?
No it’s the sound of his asscheeks as he walks!!
rocks got mogged by that btw
Your final villain is a Bepo victim