also-manga

[rose rune]

ask him for directions

roll a d20

[royal orchid]

13

[rose rune]

he ignores you

[royal orchid]

damn high standards

[formal wagon]

roll a d100

[shadow knoll]

what that on his head

[royal orchid]

he said It is of no consequence. I think it's a mohawk

[winter oasis]

46

[warm fossil]

mihawk mentioned

[next axle]

ok

[next axle]

yup

[formal wagon]

egghead ends december

[native cloud]

I was thinking less

Could be 14 to be exact

[rose rune]

man, I wouldn't mind the cold so much if it didn't keep going up and down so much

sweating like a pig one day and scraping ice off my car the next

[shadow knoll]

hey at least it's some form of workout

[pine scaffold]

Zoro fans can finally shut up lol

They are equals

[formal wagon]

sandmans one and only lie

[low blaze]

Oda’s*

[pine scaffold]

Ngl Sanji being able to match Zoro is crazy cuz he hasnt even got coc haki

😭 😭

https://tenor.com/view/ifrit-jambe-akihiro-ota-sanji-fight-sanji-kick-sanji-gif-14841148879125532967

[cold steppe]

Nah sanji better because he never trains and doesn't use tools to fight

[shadow knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/rob-lucci-rorona-zoro-episode-1144-zoro-vs-lucci-egghead-gif-10919885970813202392

the real chad is akihiro ota

[pine scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/ifrit-jambe-sanji-vs-queen-sanji-queen-sanji-fight-gif-3168362212704368460

Sanji is HIM!

[prisma yacht]

His body is kind of a to-......

Well

[low blaze]

Sanji = Messi
Zoro = Ronaldo

One is carried by genetics the other is carried by hard work

[cold steppe]

You are right. But if we take it away he can still fight as we saw in all of one piece before onigashima

[dense pike]

TS IS FIRE

[prisma yacht]

[noble carbon]

Foreskinning???

[prisma yacht]

Oh hey lemon

[dense pike]

Greetings Fr0

[formal wagon]

whats up mailbox

bro got donowallled 💀

[pine ridge]

messi did take growth hormones when he was young kinda like sanji's germa genes

[icy wolf]

ronaldo carried by hard work my ass

[shadow knoll]

is ronaldo vs messi and mj vs lebron inescapable

it's a fucking phenomenon atp

[noble carbon]

Is he allowed to do that

[craggy vapor]

Sanji is a Cyborg tho

[dense haven]

both zoro and sanji and nepo babies

[sturdy steeple]

Sanji is a more successful nepo baby though

Wanji….

[fossil nimbus]

I wonder what the Roger pirates learnt at laughtale, they said they found out the history of the world, but Gaban didn't seem to know about Imu or his abilities

[cold steppe]

Maybe Imu wasn't mentioned

[fossil nimbus]

Imu seems to be an integral part of the creation of this world, plus he was there around Joyboys era

[sturdy steeple]

I take that as maybe the fact that Imu’s name wasn’t mentioned perhaps. It could still be potentially some kind of God controlling one of the kings from the past.

[craggy vapor]

Imu’s world is not finished. Imu’s finished world is just Mary Giose surrounded by one ocean.

[final trench]

This isnt even true

[pine scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/ifrit-jambe-sanji-fight-sanji-kick-sanji-wano-gif-13222830348370417756

I'd say Sanji has more aura than Zoro

Zoro is trying a bit too hard

imo

[fossil nimbus]

atp who isn't a nepo baby

[final trench]

“Cope” alright tell me how zoro being a descendant of ryuma make him strong

Also this nigga sanji aint use his exoskeleton until what wholecake? Wano?

[cold steppe]

His swords are strong and they're given to him

[final trench]

Stop this nepo baby monkey shit yall dont know the word 😴

[cold steppe]

Even his fans call him enma zoro, shuisui zoro

[final trench]

Wtf that gotta do with nepotism or him being related to ryuma

[shadow knoll]

wait the wording of this was so good i kinda got wet down there

[final trench]

So luffys a nepo baby because shanks gave him a strawhat?

[cold steppe]

Strawhat has no strength

[final trench]

Also he traded shisui for enma

[fossil nimbus]

They are not nepo babies exactly, they just come from an extremely strong lineage. Basically every important character right now has strong ancestors

[shadow knoll]

always has been

[final trench]

Insanity

[frail cradle]

genghis khan

[muted hedge]

nepo baby is a term heavily misused in this fandom

most of the children of notable parents, barely have their parents in their life

[shadow knoll]

think abt it if shanks was that smart why would he even allow luffy to hv thr NIKA fruit but was smart enough to let his arm eaten by a monster

plus he's dragon's son, garp's grandson and ace's step brother

[grand flower]

Zoro is a nepo baby because there was a cool guy hundreds of years ago

Sanji hecause he became a cyborg two weeks ago

Spoiled brats

[shadow knoll]

zoro is a nepo baby cuz of the swords he got

[grand flower]

Telling the guy buying better tools than me at home depot he’s a nepo baby

[craggy vapor]

it’s not like he planned to let that monster eat his arm. It’s that he didn’t have any choice cuz that monster would’ve low diffed him so he had to fake his toughness

[shadow knoll]

don't slander my goat's toughness

he has lotta haki knots in his butt

[craggy vapor]

I’m sorry I was paid by someone who wants to be anonymous to post it

[pine scaffold]

We dont see Gaban's answer

[shadow knoll]

[shadow knoll]

watching roger's crew dying one by one is lowkey tuff

[final trench]

Fr

Leave this nepo baby bullshit in 2025

[craggy vapor]

y’all see that?

[shadow knoll]

so i can slander for another 9 days

on that note

[muted hedge]

it's safe to come to the assumption that Sanji will get conquerors, this is just Oda hinting at it

[craggy vapor]

Fortunately for him, he always has enough supply of brown paint

[grand flower]

YEAHHH

https://tenor.com/view/fight-pop-out-pop-up-kendrick-lamar-super-bowl-gif-5059301608656625668

[shadow knoll]

if he doesn't get conqueror's haki, then the power scaling is abysmally cooked

[craggy vapor]

it’s not fair tho. Zoro worked his butt off for his strenght and Sanji is just a Cyborg

[shadow knoll]

like 3 out of entire crew has haki

[muted hedge]

not really, since even if, he'll get something else to match

[grand flower]

Zoro getting killed on the roof without Enma

[muted hedge]

Sanji also worked his ass off

[grand flower]

Not even making it to King 👑

[fossil nimbus]

Luffy, Sanji, Zoro, Jinbei, Usopp and possibly Franky(because when him, bonney and sanji hit luffy, he said it hurt because they were using haki)

[craggy vapor]

maybe in a different way on Okama island 🥸

[cold steppe]

Not really, you take out his swords and he's mohji level

[shadow knoll]

im hoping Oda will at least kill one of the crew

[pine scaffold]

Betting against Sanji not having it might be the dumbest thing to do

[muted hedge]

why do people think that just because Sanji is a cyborg that means that he doesn't train?

[pine scaffold]

I think Sanji will get coc haki next year

[grand flower]

On a serious level, Sanji obviously trains since he’s a martial artist who keeps getting better

[shadow knoll]

usopp would be the best candidate for it after he dies in a warrior fashion

[grand flower]

Even Nami exercises

[muted hedge]

definitely

[craggy vapor]

did u see him train just once?

[pine scaffold]

@grand flower

[muted hedge]

it's a safe assumption to make given he gets stronger just like Zoro

[grand flower]

He’s getting it in Elbaph

[muted hedge]

it's dumb to think that Sanji just got it naturally, when we see him naturally progress arc to arc

[fossil nimbus]

He fights against Luffy everyday

[cold steppe]

Sanji is a cook anyway

[craggy vapor]

wait no. He actually trains every day with Zoro

[grand flower]

He’s a martial artist

[cold steppe]

Why would he train

[proud pivot]

base luffy

[grand flower]

Why would a fighter not train

That’s a good way to stop being a fighter

[fossil nimbus]

okay?

[deep chasm]

thats what everyone else does. Zoro is one of the only people we see consistently training on his own time

[rose rune]

Sanji does squats

[shadow knoll]

that way even nami has haki, cuz she beats luffy up daily

[proud pivot]

yeah

[muted hedge]

yeah because Oda doesn't think it's necessary to forcefeed the fact that they train to keep up their progression, lol

it should be quite obvious if you ask me

[deep chasm]

so he feels like force feeding it for zoro only?

[prisma yacht]

Can someone share the imu sketches

[muted hedge]

yeah since that's a core trait of Zoros character

he likes to train, just as much as Sanji does making food

or Nami making maps

[deep chasm]

so maybe the other people arent training like zoro

[muted hedge]

should be all over twitter

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/twilight-sparkle-smile-wave-gif-10721682

[deep chasm]

and it wouldnt be forcefed if oda hgave us a few moments over the series where we see sanji training

[shadow knoll]

Man, why doesn't oda draw more chibi drawings

[grand flower]

You think Nami exercises and Sanji doesnt?

[muted hedge]

exactly

[craggy vapor]

Imu will kidnap Nami to make her draw a world map

[final trench]

Power of love

[deep chasm]

🤦‍♂️

[shadow knoll]

that's hot yoga gang 🥀

[stone terrace]

Surely the sbs comment referring to beauty routines isnt implicating tha she's talking about maintaining her figure rather than strict combat training

[final trench]

Damn

Im not trolling hard enough

[deep chasm]

Yea but theres no point in hoping theyd understand this 😭

[dense haven]

mental gymnastics olympics

[proud pivot]

@grok is this real

[prisma yacht]

goonkazuki is canon

[final trench]

Thats why he be at that desk

#uncomfortableconvos

[stone terrace]

did that actually happen

[prisma yacht]

😭😭

[stone terrace]

maybe i should watch film gold

[proud pivot]

lucci the ultimate sauce provider

[craggy vapor]

Akainu the biggest pervert of them all

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/view/freaky-one-piece-freaky-op-freaky-freaky-tiger-freaky-anime-gif-11994979630626285115

[prisma yacht]

Lucci has a great sense of smell as well

[proud pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/freaky-sonic-gif-16480151311255377524

[craggy vapor]

when did this happen?

[cold steppe]

Opening 19

[digital spear]

Sakafreaky vs Goon Lucci was very wild

[vale heath]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-franky-franky-one-piece-cyborg-robot-gif-12009356941997127287

[stone terrace]

you better knock before entering his office

[prisma yacht]

LMAOO

[craggy vapor]

u need to wait until he’s.. finished

[dense haven]

release the sakazuki files

[craggy vapor]

Sanji stole them

[stone terrace]

sanji does canonically have dirty magazines which is actually really funny

[rose rune]

true, chopper was rummaging through them

[craggy vapor]

Does someone have the complete guidebook translated?

[hazy turret]

Girl

Bruh

Anyways what was Robin’s answer

[vale heath]

https://tenor.com/view/slaking-pokemon-gif-8271071037542270292

[olive sigil]

Who’s ready for this yeti holy knight to come to Elbaf

[vale heath]

Oh so we’re going to call this what it is

But not Gab

[grand flower]

What the fuck bruh lmao

[shadow knoll]

the physics...

[grand flower]

Incredible match up

[olive sigil]

What’s with the red hair pirates and being secretly holy knights

[stone tulip]

Why there is a line under make sure to keep up with my fitness

[grand flower]

Nami exercises

[stone tulip]

Also Zoro fans are not gonna be happy about this 💀

[grand flower]

So no doubt Sanji does too

[stone tulip]

Yeah I know but why lol

[grand flower]

Convo was about whether Sanji trains

[olive sigil]

To remain strong

[stone tulip]

Yeah Sanji is getting conquerors lol

[latent hamlet]

Guys
Can zoro cut sanji

[grand flower]

Facts

[stone tulip]

I see

[olive sigil]

So are Jinbe and Usopp

[pine scaffold]

Zoro = Sanji in strength makes sense narratively

Sanji will get COC haki too

[muted hedge]

they've always been built up as equals

why do people think that wings can fly if they're uneven

[olive sigil]

Not saying they’re not equals but I have seen a bird with a half amputated wing still able to fly

[muted hedge]

interesting

[frozen aspen]

wait we will get to see saturn die in hd next episode right?

[muted hedge]

yeah

and Garlings promotion

[pine scaffold]

he took so long to beat lucci that lucci himself told his ass to hurry up

what was egghead zoro even doing man

[olive sigil]

We will end all of egghead

[olive sigil]

At least he was doing something. Not the most glamorous fight but he got a fight

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/REDHAllRED/status/2002867095089062261/photo/1

RED HAIR (@REDHAllRED)

#ONEPIECE

Bro…. Could Shanks be a “Davy D”? He either has got to be a Joyboy descendant or a Davy D from his mother’s side 💀

X · Dec 21, 2025, 10:21 PM

where is this from?

[maiden charm]

This fight was utter ass in the manga, but Toei did their thing with this

[dapper tree]

It's almost like zoro isn't admrial level

[olive sigil]

It was just a couple of panels of them clashing sparkled over the arc. Once every few chapters we saw them doing the same thing. It wasn’t great but it was nothing to write about

[dapper tree]

[tawny panther]

Zoro fans won’t like that one lol

[final trench]

Knew he spied on rocks

[dapper tree]

It's like zoro is still in the comamnder level with king and Marco

[final trench]

[maiden charm]

Huh, yea I just said the manga fight was ass but the anime one was good

[dapper tree]

[dapper tree]

They hate too much

[final trench]

But yea shanks is joyboys descendant

[muted hedge]

i wish i could read japanese

[final trench]

Imma be honest its weird because i cant see greenbull or fuji beating zoro but like, portrayal wise they should be able to

[dapper tree]

They easily handle zoro

[olive sigil]

Don’t care about the anime but the manga fight just wasn’t shown. It was neither good nor bad, it was just barely a fight in the manga

[pine scaffold]

What is the monkey king

[muted hedge]

interesting, never seen the full one before

[craggy vapor]

Joyboy is eyepatch man?

[final trench]

Probably

[dapper tree]

Why on earth are you doing this to me?

[final trench]

He is the first pirate so he may look very default

[dapper tree]

You're biggest crime to me

[final trench]

Him or luffy tbh

[dapper tree]

He's not real

[shut ginkgo]

He left the bandanna on the boat

[shadow knoll]

everyone's hyped up abt how joyboy looks when he's gonna be an identical copy of luffy and young roger

[peak kernel]

He dint use his 3rd sword

The whole time

And when he got serious and used it

He finished the fight

Stop hating start understanding

[olive sigil]

He didn’t finish anything

[stone tulip]

Agenda and people would rather Zoro be equals to Luffy cause he is “first mate” (which he isn’t) rather be equals to a mere cook.

[olive sigil]

Jinbe finished the fight

[stone tulip]

Yeah Elbaf made it pretty clear Sanji will get conquerors for sure like they deadass censored Gaban’s words and had Sanji react in serious manner while Loki was yelling to cover it all up, that’s definitely a big clue and for me it was my final straw about the whole thing and finally convinced me that he is 100% getting it.

[stone tulip]

Meek mentioned he is currently working in translations but no updates yet

[stone tulip]

Ponytail post time skip Vivi 🗣🔥

[shut ginkgo]

Lovefull ahh conquerers haki

[olive sigil]

Sanji looked sad

[stone tulip]

More like shocked at what Gaban had said

[stone tulip]

Power of love had been unironically been a thing since pre time skip so lol

[shut ginkgo]

I don’t get the people who rock up and act like gaban saying he’s full of love was a crazy new way to attack

[stone tulip]

I mean it isn’t just Gaban, it was confirmed to be a thing with Kuma and especially Garp too

So it isn’t new concept at all

[shut ginkgo]

Ye I’m agreeing with you it’s like how Nami could always hurt Luffy

[sturdy steeple]

I was wondering what’s the commotion with people getting riled up but now I’ve seen that comment on Sanji

Magazines do be likes this or whatever that is

[celest mauve]

what are these scans I've been seeing, where are they coming from?

the stuff about zoro and sanji being equal, a tidbit about vivi and cobra, other stuff

[muted hedge]

https://fixupx.com/WSJ_manga/status/2002758750457962786/photo/1

Shonen Jump News (@WSJ_manga)

ONE PIECE Mini Magazine - Legend & Next included in Issue #4/5.

**💬 7 🔁 111 ❤️ 752 👁️ 52.3K **

FixupX · Dec 21, 2025, 3:11 PM

it's in there

[golden valley]

https://cubari.moe/read/imgur/prSrS0Z/1/11/

[golden valley]

Tbf, I’d treat those more like gags

[celest mauve]

thanks

[hazy juniper]

Gear hate type shit

[proud pivot]

gear death

[tidal ice]

We were robbed

[stone terrace]

Loki concept art probably spoiled something

[muted hedge]

was there Loki concept art?

[stone terrace]

No

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/luffy-and-loki-luffy-gear-5-loki-one-piece-luffy-one-piece-gif-12298915513185338849

[remote maple]

ai slop

[hot cairn]

Chapter week?

[sturdy steeple]

Hopefully not
Suffer

[shadow knoll]

the fact that it's AI and i still like it

[noble carbon]

Patty might just be the greatest of all time

[hot cairn]

damn

[final trench]

Tiger man

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/Dannymans66/status/2002895652691554653

Danny🍓|Comms full| (@Dannymans66)

I'll do it myself, Oda

X · Dec 22, 2025, 12:15 AM

[frozen aspen]

why not post the finished one

[muted hedge]

since it's not finished

oh wait it is

[hazy turret]

Yeah

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/Dannymans66/status/2002999076615340309/photo/1

Danny🍓|Comms full| (@Dannymans66)

Amazon Lili Empress' #ONEPIECE

X · Dec 22, 2025, 7:06 AM

[hazy turret]

They shared it in #art earlier too

[frozen aspen]

duh

[muted hedge]

i never look in the art tab

i am only in this tab

[frozen aspen]

ur loss

[hazy turret]

It wasn’t the Artist themself but someone else did

Anyways

Very epic and oda FUMBLED

[muted hedge]

i agree, i would've prefered this over the Rocks spread

but i know i am in the minority of that

[fallen meteor]

I see 3 people that wanted this one instead

So clearly we are a majority

And I won't look elsewhere

[muted hedge]

lol

[fallen meteor]

#odafumbled

[pine scaffold]

Coolest shit in years

https://tenor.com/view/one-peak-one-piece-its-so-peak-rayleigh-gif-18066990322494779748

[sweet anvil]

Fr

[sweet anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/michaeljordan-mj-basketball-gif-michael-jordan-no-no-no-no-gif-16220345851539903827

[hazy turret]

Barbell fan

Disgusting

[stone tulip]

They cooked

[muted hedge]

yeah

[prisma yacht]

Wow

[prisma yacht]

I think this is the last time we see rocks

[pine scaffold]

We are 100% seeing him one more time in the story

We still gotta see how Roger and Rocks met

it'll parallel luffy and BB

and Harald will think about Rocks in his final moments

''He was right all along...''

[prisma yacht]

I don't think roger ever wanted to kill rocks

[runic dock]

I want that couch

[pine scaffold]

We need to see their history, extremely important to Roger's character

He was crying fighting Rocks at GV

[prisma yacht]

But yeah you're right we might see rocks again in roger's fb

[runic dock]

At best they were rivals , and they had chances to fight each other outside shakkys bar but chose not to

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/XgInrw/status/2001652028637143372/photo/1
cool concept cover

Ama(あま) (@XgInrw)

久々に表紙風にイラストを描きました！
最高の過去編の主役達とルフィです🫡
#ONEPIECE #fanart #今週のワンピ

X · Dec 18, 2025, 1:53 PM

[runic dock]

If rocks is on the cover I’m buying

[stone terrace]

Get luffy the fuck outta there man

[iron oriole]

Shakkys bar rules extended across the island, if you was on Hachinosu for the bar then no fighting

[prisma yacht]

😭

[rose rune]

he's sucking on a hard candy

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/_bouvardia/status/2002307692803792948/photo/1

ブバルディア (@_bouvardia)

ゴッドバレー事件

X · Dec 20, 2025, 9:18 AM

[prisma yacht]

Omg thigh ur name 😭

[steel stirrup]

"Luffy, FUCK OFF"

[prisma yacht]

peak shit

[celest mauve]

gallery of mid (the art is good)

[pine scaffold]

Lil bro thinks hes part of the team 💔

[muted hedge]

stop bullying Luffy

[barren token]

It's so funny that whatever aura this spread had is just NUKED by Barbel and Wang zhi

[rose rune]

Luffy is on every team

[iron oriole]

The aura is lost by Oda not including Gil

[rose rune]

he highjacks any cover he comes across

[tawny panther]

they should all be grateful to be on the same cover as the future pirate king lol

[pine scaffold]

Luffy is awesome

but its not his time to shine

[hazy turret]

Who put hajrudin’s dorky ass there

[prisma yacht]

WWWW

[grand flower]

Interesting potential parallel that Rocks was forced to ask men he didn’t know too well to finish him off

[stone terrace]

I didnt even register hajrudin ngl

[hazy turret]

Pause

[stone terrace]

But he has more of a right to be there than luffy

[grand flower]

Now Harald is asking his son the same thing but he doesn’t know his son that well either

[prisma yacht]

Also the ppl they asked

cared about them

[pine scaffold]

I have a question

[hazy turret]

We need Luffy to sell copies of the volume

[pine scaffold]

has Loki ever met Shanks at this point in time

no right?

so this is his first meeting with him

[tawny panther]

probably saw him around elbaf

[iron oriole]

As far as we know

[prisma yacht]

It's safe to assume they haven't met tho

[pine scaffold]

I dont think Shanks visits often

[runic dock]

It does not , Roger beat up everyone in the line

[pine scaffold]

especially this point in time

[iron oriole]

Roger played it off as a joke & has special benefits due to being access to Rayleigh but it does

[grand flower]

It’s just the bar

[tawny panther]

weird how the current era could never have their own version of Shelly’s bar cause no female in the current era got motion like Shakky did

[muted hedge]

i mean, the closest would be Boa

[tawny panther]

yeah but she’s far off from what Shakky was

[pine scaffold]

this might actually be Shanks's first time in Elbaf

[tawny panther]

Shakky stopped the economy lmao

[finite knoll]

Hancock would never make a bar for men like that😭😭

[muted hedge]

yeah her personality is completely different

[restive wedge]

The fodder mermaids neg diff Boa

[iron oriole]

Anyone who visits for the bar is banned from fighting, it extends outside of the bar

[tawny panther]

if Shakky was at marineford in her prime instead of Boa .. most would’ve been focusing on her lol

instead of Ace

[steel stirrup]

Shuiesha said "No Luffy no cover"

[muted hedge]

smart move, it wouldn't sell otherwise

[warm fossil]

man its so annoying that oda is trying to explain shanks losing his arm with the contract thing when he could've like removed it at any point if that was actually his goal

like brother you're not slick

[prisma yacht]

I love it bro

[runic dock]

Pfft , hardly an excuse , they’re not dumb they know it was Roger

Clearly the rule isn’t hard enforced

[iron oriole]

Enforced enough that Rocks & Roger wont fight there

And Rocks owns the island

So

[tawny panther]

i’m fine with it cause it never made sense to me why shanks needed to jump in the water and lose his arm just to save luffy when they could’ve easily killed the sea king from a distance lol

[pine scaffold]

Shanks randomly losing his arm to a sea king never made sense looking back

Oda never wanted this to happen anyway, he got forced by editors

So Oda is thinking of a great way for it to make sense

[hazy turret]

Because she’s not a pathetic loser like shakky 🥱

[pine scaffold]

which feels natural in the story

[warm fossil]

this is just not an explanatio tho

[finite knoll]

Im fine with it too, it carries an extra weight to why he lost it and what it represented

[mighty shell]

i don't like it it feels like luffy is a convenient excuse to do something he was always going to do which dilutes the impact of him losing a whole ass arm just to save luffy

[pine scaffold]

I think you're not able to remove the arm yourself

someone else gotta do it

[warm fossil]

then have someone in the crew do it

[tawny panther]

plus Shanks telling WB “ he bet it on the new era” still fits perfectly with what was revealed this flashback with Shanks contract

[warm fossil]

^

[finite knoll]

I think of it less as something he was intentionally doing but it happened by chance that was the arm he lost

Like serendipity

[prisma yacht]

☝️

[warm fossil]

again it would make sense to "bet" it on luffy if he couldn't have done it 5 years earlier alone lol

there was no reason to lose the arm specifically there

[pine scaffold]

blame the editors tbh, Oda never wanted Shanks to lose the arm

its their fault

[iron oriole]

I agree with this, i hate the idea that some people have that Shanks only did it to remove the mark

[tawny panther]

he may not have wanted to do it til Luffy ate the DF .. that could’ve been when he decided to bet it on the new era

[golden valley]

To teach Luffy the dangers of the sea

[warm fossil]

its oda's fault to try and explain it

[golden valley]

Is what was specifically aaid

[hearty shore]

Cuz the pact affects the entire soul not just the arm it was marked on

[warm fossil]

just have him lose an arm trying to protect luffy

its not like thats a problem anyone had with the story

[tidal ice]

Oda drew it ultimately so i blame him

[warm fossil]

so then he decided to aura farm on luffy by losing an arm in a flashy way instead of having someone remove it?

[runic dock]

That aside , I do think rocks and Roger have clashed , but they don’t have any kind of hard grudge against each other

So at best friendly rivals

[final trench]

Ye

[iron oriole]

They definitely have clashed

[muted hedge]

shame that we didn't see any of their rivalry outside of that one scene

[graceful grove]

this lying mf

[iron oriole]

This implies enough that they clash when out at sea

[golden valley]

Shanks taught Luffy the dangers of the sea and bet losing his arm on Luffy for that very reason. I feel like this is already answered

[muted hedge]

and we see none of it

[iron oriole]

We don't really have to

[muted hedge]

i hope that when we get to Rogers flashback sometime, we'll get more coverage on their rivalry

[muted hedge]

i think we do, given it's their main roles opposed to eachother they were always built up as rivals

[warm fossil]

i'm gonna be honest i'm not certain we're getting a roger flashback

[muted hedge]

so i think there's a bit of a flaw when we see so little of it

[tawny panther]

no , Luffy eating the fruit was something unexpected .. later that same day shanks lost his arm … it’s not about aura farming , it’s just when Luffy ate the fruit he could’ve realized he’ll be the one so no need to keep the contract from Imu anymore cause you found “ Nika” who will change the world and the sea king was just a opportunity to lose it

[finite knoll]

I mean he could've still meant this given he was trying to take down the Celestial Dragons anyway😭

[pine scaffold]

Wow

[warm fossil]

yes but my point is there's no reason to lose an arm to the fish instead of in a more cautionary way

[celest mauve]

this is what I thought too, shanks didn't remove his arm earlier because he still needed to be sure about joyboy's successor

[warm fossil]

except to aura farm

[tawny panther]

but if the opportunity arises then why not just use that chance to get rid of it

[golden valley]

https://scans-hot.planeptune.us/manga/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics/0001-047.png

[tawny panther]

it’s not like luffy are the fruit then days went by where shanks could’ve cut off his arm then he waited for the sea king .. it was all in the same day

[warm fossil]

its not an opportunity? its not any more of a good reason to lose an arm than telling someone to do it

[golden valley]

He betted on Luffy, so he lost his arm, taught him the dangers of the sea from this moment.

[olive sigil]

[scenic dirge]

He’s theatrical. He’d definitely be a theater kid in high school

[warm fossil]

where are you even getting this reason btw

[golden valley]

From the panel above and Shanks saying he gave it up for the new era

[warm fossil]

and again much more risky

like what if the fish randomly ate his shoulder too

there's genuinely no reason to risk that

[tawny panther]

he wasn’t worrried lol

he knew he would be fine

[finite knoll]

I think you're looking too deep into this dawg😭😭

[warm fossil]

i'm not

[scenic dirge]

You are lol but that’s ok

[golden valley]

Shanks didn’t need the arm, that doesn’t need an explanation and is pretty simple. Not having a need for the arm means it would serve of Shanks placing his bet on Luffy

[warm fossil]

the point is that there's no reason for this stupid ahh backstory to exist

the only thing it does is weaken the existing story

[tidal ice]

Deeper than oda when he drew ch1

[finite knoll]

The whole story is about fate and serendipity and you can't accept that it was lucky moment for Shanks😭

[warm fossil]

because it shows us that shanks didn't actually risk himself to save luffy

[golden valley]

Luffy literally learns the dangers of the seas from Shanks losing his arm

[tawny panther]

it ain’t that deep lol you looking for a reason to dislike shanks reason to lose his arm as if it changes anything at all

just adds more context lol

[warm fossil]

its not about luck, its about intention

the story is much stronger if shanks genuinely risked himself to save luffy and lost an arm as a price

[finite knoll]

You're not reading the same story as the rest of us

[warm fossil]

instead of saving luffy and jumping on the opportunity to lose an annoying arm

[shadow vault]

That was actually his intention

[golden valley]

It carries the same message

[shadow vault]

He betting his arm and his hat

[finite knoll]

Shanks still risked himself to save Luffy regardless 😭

[golden valley]

Because Shanks is putting his faith in Luffy

Like what changes

[tawny panther]

why would anybody think shanks at that point was genuinely risking himself .. ain’t nobody worried about sea kings lol especially not shanks & his crew

[warm fossil]

clearly not if he was so in control that he knew the fish would take precisely the correct arm and only that

[tawny panther]

he knew it wasn’t that big of a risk

[pine scaffold]

💔

[frozen aspen]

Shanks swam all the way to luffy and sea king and realized that he forgot his haki knots 😔

[golden valley]

Shanks lost his arm because he believed that it was worth putting his faith into Luffy

[warm fossil]

dog when someone loses a fucking arm i don't need to think anything i know he risked himself

[golden valley]

And it served as a lesson

[tawny panther]

the only one in danger was Luffy, shanks was never at risk of anything more happening to him …

[royal orchid]

shanks lost his arm because he had to protect the haki knots inside his shirt

[fluid cedar]

His final collection of roger knots

[pulsar path]

I'm just saying how many times was Luffy ate by something. Int he series and survived

[graceful grove]

you can do this with every SH i feel

[shadow vault]

Always funny to see makino like a proud sister while mayor is that one granpa who hate anything

[pulsar path]

In going to play funny advocate

[frozen aspen]

I'm suprised it took a year for haki knots to become a tool of slander

[royal orchid]

his last one was used on the sea king

he had to get more from Rayleigh and Gaban

[royal orchid]

manga readers didn't see the slander potential but anime onlys saw diamonds

[frozen aspen]

true

[pulsar path]

Anime onlys see alotn

[distant vine]

Shanks haters realized they have even less ammo than the scraps they used to have so they have to pivot

[pulsar path]

Alot more than what I'm seein

[distant vine]

[frozen aspen]

do u think mihawk also gets his paint from ray and gaban

[warm fossil]

why would i hate on shanks when every one of his feats is an upscale for my goat

[royal orchid]

he gets them from the american justice department

[frozen aspen]

I said it before but Shanks haters are god's strongest soldiers

[shadow vault]

Nah he got it from ms golden week

[warm fossil]

highkey tho if removing the tatoo removes the contract why doesn't imu have them tatoo it on like the neck or something

[distant vine]

He's not smart.

Wouldn't that be a hilarious answer?

[frozen aspen]

Ppl who hate shanks have to put up with oda dickriding that man 24/7 so they genuinely have to come up with the wildest slander imaginable

[finite knoll]

Imu doesn't seem to be the most tactical person

[distant vine]

Garling tells him he should just put it on the neck and he's like "Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"

[shadow vault]

Knowing how elder behave 100% imu is bird brain

[frozen aspen]

this but unironcally. Incelmaxxing for 900 years made his IQ half of Luffy's probably

[golden valley]

We are 100% getting an SBS answer on if Imu placed a contract on someones balls

[finite knoll]

Imu just kinda does shit and hopes it doesn't fall apart which is of his hubris

[pulsar path]

Honestly this is kinda good point

[shadow vault]

Imu iq downgrading after that trauma haki from joyboy

[pulsar path]

I mean it doesn't matter if you get the better contract but weird for the smaller one

[warm fossil]

they could also just lose an arm on accident

[frozen aspen]

Maybe they never had this scenario happen before

[scenic dirge]

If they were truly committed to the cause they’d get it tattooed on their penis

[warm fossil]

like that's a thing that happens

and then they just lose the contract lol

[frozen aspen]

Like no holy knights efore ever betrayed imu

so Shanks was a first

[warm fossil]

sure but surely holy knights have lost arms before

[golden valley]

All of that seems to just apply to the first contract

[warm fossil]

i was gonna use that instead of neck but decided i was extremely mature and won't

[scenic dirge]

Well I’m not

[frozen aspen]

I think it doesn't matter once u reach deep abyss contract bc u just regen at that point. The contract can no longer be removed at all

[shadow vault]

Shanks losing his arm to wipe the pact contract

[finite knoll]

I wonder if its bc you haven't proven yourself worthy yet so if you get seriously injured, its kinda like proof that you're not eligible for the deeper contracts

[hazy turret]

Now do you guys see the problem I had with nika df

[finite knoll]

So you're more disposable I guess? Once you get higher in the ranks you're granted more

[warm fossil]

i don't know what the problem is but you're right

[frozen aspen]

Either way the only reason Shanks method worked is bc he had the weaker contract. Harald can't save himself anymore

[warm fossil]

well yeah harald's cooked but who cares about him anyway

[frozen aspen]

true

[frozen aspen]

I don't think its about being disposable. It's more so a trial period

[subtle crescent]

Guys where can u watch one piece on

[frozen aspen]

I do wonder why gunko is special

[hazy turret]

Tampering with fundamental aspects of the story like this

[subtle crescent]

english dubb

[frozen aspen]

She is a HK but she doesn't age like the others

[warm fossil]

is kiss anime still around

[hazy turret]

We could have gotten gear 5 with just gomu

[pulsar path]

Blue hair and some sort of connection to Lili

[finite knoll]

I have mixed feelings about it too. I like certain aspects of it but I do think it complicates things a lil more than necessary

[frozen aspen]

kissanime dies years ago

😔

[warm fossil]

people have said so but its not true

[finite knoll]

There's still other versions of Kiss Anime around

[pulsar path]

I mean neftari could have married one of there's to a manmayer making manmayer DNA neftari

[warm fossil]

yeah no this shit is still up

[frozen aspen]

dunno how reliable those mirror versions are

[pulsar path]

Probably wasn't uncommon in the old kingdoms

[warm fossil]

literally first search result works

[graceful grove]

chosen piece out in full force now

[pulsar path]

I see it more like Nika and Luffy aligned

[frozen aspen]

the original kissanime got taken done . This are like mirror versions and they are usually more sketchy but u can go ahead and try them if you want

[warm fossil]

yeah i don't like it

[graceful grove]

it didn't have to be in the first place. Oda could've gone in any direction

[warm fossil]

its like how the original streameast got taken down but there's a million other streameasts so no one cares

[pulsar path]

Like what? From the day sengokus fruit was introduced this was probably planned

[cold steppe]

It was planned since luffy was rubber while unconscious

[finite knoll]

I think Oda had some version of Gear Fifth and Nika in mind but didn't finalize it til around Wano

[pulsar path]

I would argue when sengoku was received to be a hito hito no mi and was the first successful awakens fruit

[warm fossil]

that's still a solid 12 or something years and 550 chapters after the start of one piece

[finite knoll]

Bc some aspects feel like they were thought out especially looking back at Skypeia, but other things feel last minute or like retconning

[pulsar path]

He knew he was going to do Nika

[pulsar path]

I mean I could argue it goes back to skypia but personally I don't think so I think Oda just retcon that connection

[finite knoll]

i think the thing with Shanks arm is more of a retcon😭😭

[pulsar path]

You mean the contract

[cold steppe]

I think skypiea is too detailed to be retconed

[finite knoll]

With Skypeia there were multiple connections with Luffy and his family

[finite knoll]

Yea

[royal orchid]

what's that about retcons

[pulsar path]

Like it's homage to skypia but don't think Oda was like this is going to blow people's minds in 15 years

[royal orchid]

skypiea is in the elbaf mural that arc is as important as they come

[graceful grove]

Sengoku DF itself is enough reason to go in a different direction. his DF is ass

[pulsar path]

Yeah idk how much of shanks back story was thought up by that time but who knows really. If anything we should take it as a way of Nika saving shanks rather than shanks saving Luffy

[pulsar path]

That's not the point the point is it was awakened and was a hito hito based on a god

[runic dock]

Agree , hopefully during Roger’s personal fb

[pulsar path]

Also dont disrespected Siddhartha

[graceful grove]

yes and that's why i'm saying god dfs were a bad idea. it didn't look good then either

[pulsar path]

How old were you when Marinedford dropped lmaon

Not even god really " mythic" is the title and tbh I have had the theory that devil fruits with wills are trapped beings made into devil fruits and with mythical zoans becoming more and more common with awakening I can't help but still think this is the case Ie probably the ancient kingdom started tracking down mythical beings an stealing their powers

[pine scaffold]

Peak scene right here

[graceful grove]

i'm 32, you do the math xd

[pulsar path]

Anything with xebec is peak

[hazy turret]

DAMN

[prisma yacht]

broo

😭

[graceful grove]

it's about what Oda did with it.

[hazy turret]

Unc r8

[pulsar path]

My unc surpasses his unc

[graceful grove]

thanks. i actually like being old

[hazy turret]

Oh hell nah it’s unc hours in here

[prisma yacht]

Ilma how old r u ? 40?

[pulsar path]

No 😭

[prisma yacht]

😭

[pulsar path]

35 lmao

[hazy turret]

Gahhhh

[prisma yacht]

Damnnn

[finite knoll]

10 years ahead of me💔🥀

[prisma yacht]

Bro u old too

🥀

[graceful grove]

barely

[finite knoll]

It's okay I accept it

[hazy turret]

JK old people are cool anyways ✌️

[prisma yacht]

And chill

[finite knoll]

Im still younger than Hancock when she started flirting with Luffy #LockHerUp

[pulsar path]

We try to be

How old was Hancock trying to riz Luffy?

[pine scaffold]

@wraith mantle @steel stirrup Rocks constantly thinking about his family and being loyal is something you'd never see in OP

[finite knoll]

She was like 29 when Luffy was 17😭

[steel stirrup]

Every other nigga leaves their family to go get milk and never come back so yea Rocks is an anomaly

Milk or cigarettes

[pulsar path]

Sis big mom know about irsi and teach or just iris

[muted basin]

i can't believe someone on twitter genuinely said, "base zoro"😭

[pulsar path]

Damn.

[steel stirrup]

Is that like Zoro with one sword or some shit

[graceful grove]

what if 17 is legal age in her country 🤓 ☝️

[pulsar path]

Tbh tho she didn't let Luffy touch her till time skip ?

[steel stirrup]

WHAT THE FUCK IS BASE ZORO

[pulsar path]

Oh wait NVM

[prisma yacht]

Big mom was a big fucking bully bro

[graceful grove]

his ass was under her dress xd

[barren token]

Base zoro is when he doesn't have the bandana on

[pulsar path]

Yeah lmao

[pulsar path]

Like wtf lmao

[runic dock]

No swords

It’s a style

[golden valley]

Yeah Base Zoro has to be no sword zoro

[graceful grove]

it's like a plan sanji would make but gender is reverse + it worked

[golden valley]

3-sword style isn’t Base Zoro

1-sword style isn’t base zoro

[final trench]

If he dont got on a bandana he aint tryin

[barren token]

No sword zoro is sub base zoro

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-zoro-gif-19696995

[prisma yacht]

This power scaling sounds like what sd used to do

Did I get his name right

[final trench]

And if king of hell aint mentioned thats definitely base zoro

[runic dock]

He was born sub base?

Smh some people

[barren token]

Baby zoro is sub sub sub base zoro

[muted basin]

theres no such thing as base zoro bro😭 lets stop being silly now

[pulsar path]

Lmao true omg so Hancock is really just a female Sanji smh

[barren token]

Sub sub sub base zoro is still > base sanji though

[final trench]

No bandana= base

Sorry bud

[runic dock]

Sanji doesn’t kick dogs

[final trench]

Dont make the rules just enforce em

[graceful grove]

he is one

[pulsar path]

But he would kick a man without hesitation

[barren token]

Keep lying to yourself kid

[graceful grove]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-sanji-ep1107-funny-gif-6000318421656694977

[runic dock]

Definitely

[runic dock]

Definitely

[pulsar path]

Lmao just different likes and dislikes I guess 😂

[barren token]

Zoros bandana is spiritually a power up

[muted basin]

i see why people hate one piece fans now

[scenic dirge]

Better kicking technique than that other guy

[latent hamlet]

Is sanji powering up when he smokes or doesnt

[pulsar path]

Damn.

[muted basin]

can't even read their own manga😭

[tranquil blade]

base Zoro > base Sanji = swordless Zoro

[graceful grove]

what if he store haki in it

[muted basin]

"base zoro"😭 ✌️ no wonder one piece gets slandered

[barren token]

Based zoro

[prisma yacht]

Nicotine boost

[muted basin]

acting like zoro has a transformation 😭

[pine scaffold]

Thoughts? https://x.com/sandman_AP/status/2003025109913948213

sandman (@sandman_AP)

My translation💡: Although Sanji’s bounty is lower than Zoro’s, the two are *evenly matched* in terms of strength, making Sanji truly worthy of being called one of the “two wings.”🧡

X · Dec 22, 2025, 8:49 AM

[latent hamlet]

U may not like it
But this is sanji at his strongest

[scenic dirge]

Wdym thoughts lol

[pulsar path]

Bro yapping forgetting. About ashura

[latent hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/sanji-one-piece-hey-gorgeous-gif-24751083

[pine scaffold]

like thoughts on them being equals

[latent hamlet]

Lolipop sanji

[scenic dirge]

Lmfao

[latent hamlet]

Lolipop doesnt ruin his lungs

So he can breathe more

[graceful grove]

luffys real wings are Robin and Nami

[prisma yacht]

I was gonna type ashura

[muted basin]

Ik about ashura but i still find it ridiculous to say zoro even has a base form

[pulsar path]

I mean it is tho right???

[prisma yacht]

Kindaa

[barren token]

Ashura isn't a form its a move

[muted basin]

Zoro is just a powerful character, i dont wanna hear base and all that bs, just say zoro is an insanely strong character😭

its a friggin sword skill not an entire transformation

[scenic dirge]

I’m closer to 30 than 20 now. If I’m spending mental bandwidth on something like that then it’s probably over for me

[barren token]

Ashura doesn't make zoro enter into a different permanent state like the bandana does

[latent hamlet]

Remember when zoro decided the only time to use asura is against kaido
But not nusjuro

Sus

[pine scaffold]

alright

[pulsar path]

I mean he didn't want to disrespect the goat Kaku

[hot cairn]

true

[muted basin]

He was going all out and didnt care about dying in that fight

[barren token]

Pussy

[muted basin]

he was on the brink of death and didn't care to worry about all that

[tranquil blade]

It's okay 30 is like the 20's part 2

[scenic dirge]

But with that said

Zoro >>>>>>>>>> Sanji and it’s not even CLOSE

[barren token]

Sooo fucking true

[scenic dirge]

He is just a chef

[barren token]

Just a CHEF

[latent hamlet]

So nusjuro threatening the entire sunny along with the crew isnt enough

[ashen perch]

deep down he has accepted its already over for him

[muted basin]

i guess not

[prisma yacht]

Just a chef who is as strong as zoro

[pulsar path]

What I'll say is Zoro is more battle oriented and Sanji well Sanji is also the cook and the fighter

[muted basin]

I mean the Gorosei are lowk overrated, they're just immortality merchants

[latent hamlet]

Guys
Zoro is stronger
Cuz he makes more cubes

[tranquil blade]

Just a chud cook thinking he's an equal to Zoro

[pulsar path]

Technically Sanji is more important and necessary but probably not stronger than Zoro cus he can't train

[hazy turret]

Don’t care, height pattern never lies

[pulsar path]

But than he is a DNA modified human

[latent hamlet]

Sanji trains
In the kitchen

https://tenor.com/view/sanji-sanji-one-piece-cook-one-piece-cooking-gif-6806460246265418756

[tranquil blade]

Can you remove those middle ones please

[latent hamlet]

Can zoro stir a good fried rice

[ashen perch]

also its funny that people need some databook or magazine written by somebody else to understand what Oda has very clearly shown already lol

[hazy turret]

No

[pulsar path]

Yeah but that doesn't increase his attack state but it does increase Luffys?

[cold steppe]

Zoro can't cut sanji

[hot cairn]

[muted basin]

I'm convinced Oda hates a part of the one piece fanbase😭 especially the dudes that lack reading comprehension

[latent hamlet]

Which means
Luffy dps is actually sanji dps

Sanji gets the support credit

[tranquil blade]

Yknow Sanji's cookbook fucking sucks so are we sure this guy is even a good cook? Much to think about

[latent hamlet]

[pulsar path]

He does!

[pine scaffold]

Oda def knows about the memes/agenda piece of the community

he leans into it sometimes

[hazy turret]

Zoro always fights the number 1’s of the enemy crews and sanji always fights the number 2’s
Do with that what you will

[barren token]

Its funny that people need a databook or magazine written by somebody else to try to prove sanji comes close to zoro

[pulsar path]

What was in that book that was released this week

[latent hamlet]

They call zoro supporting luffy but I dont see luffy getting a damage boost from zoro

[hot cairn]

well some people like to debate that it isnt clear by Oda

[ashen perch]

Oda knows that Zoro and Sanji have a rivalry that translates to real life, ofc he does

[muted basin]

why do people still feel the need to debate whos stronger between zoro and sanji

are people that dense

[scenic dirge]

I have no enemies

[ashen perch]

this all precedes agenda piece, this is ancient

[hot cairn]

couldnt be any more clear

[pulsar path]

Sanji is more valuable than Zoro I think over all sadly but Zoro is probably stronger by a bit .would have really enjoyed them taking down big mom....

[muted basin]

we all know zoro is stronger than sanji, sanji probably knows it himself, they're rivals who push each other to get stronger, but zoro will always be stronger by a bit

[pulsar path]

Unless Sanji uses knifes

[latent hamlet]

Meanwhile in reality

Oda: they keep talking about whose stronger its so annoying! They're both the same!

[barren token]

Zoro is one inch bigger than sanji that's all that matters

[ashen perch]

Zoro is like a .01% stronger than Sanji but who really cares

[pulsar path]

Bro was a beast during enis Lobby

[muted basin]

we're prolly gonna see zoro and sanji vs dorry and brogy

[scenic dirge]

“More valuable” guys it’s SH value scaling time

[hot cairn]

worst topic of all time

[dense rapids]

A word I can’t say

[hot cairn]

more like 1%

[latent hamlet]

Nami top 1 not even close

[ashen perch]

theyre meant to be virtually equals, the difference doesnt matter

[hot cairn]

percent scaling

[latent hamlet]

Nami is the reason they have a story

They'd be lost at sea otherwise

[pulsar path]

Ohh hell yeah tho you know what would be greAt? Usopp stopping them

[tranquil blade]

100.01% yeah

[hazy turret]

.01 is such a cope

[hot cairn]

it's def more than that

[cold steppe]

Not always
Luffy fought both buggy and his n2
Sanji fought don krieg's n2
Sanji fought arlong's n2
Sanji fought wadatsumi > Zoro's opponent
Sanji fought vergo > Zoro's opponent
Also sanji fought stronger threats on egghead

[ashen perch]

the difference matters when its like, Shanks or Mihawk, because one of them is clearly the World's Strongest Swordsman but with Sanji and Zoro there is no meaningful difference between them

[pulsar path]

Hear me out tho Sanji cooks for the ship Zoro protects it but we got multiple people who can do that still valuable but straw hats would die and Luffy would be 1000 percent weaker. Like that was the plot of whole cake lmao

[scenic dirge]

What Arsal meant to say is that Zoro is 1000000000000x stronger than Sanji

[cold steppe]

Thanks to sanji's food

[sturdy steeple]

Yeah, that’s fine, one is just a top 1 and another is Mihawk

[barren token]

Sanji fans need to scrounge around in databooks and whatnot that aren't even written by oda while the humble zoro fan simply reads the manga to know zoro is 6.1% stronger than sanji

[prisma yacht]

Based

[hazy turret]

Sanji fans will always argue that strength doesn’t matter and writing is more important but will fight tooth and nail to convince you sanji is just as strong as Zoro

[hot cairn]

LOL

[graceful grove]

6.1 seems low. id go for 10

[hot cairn]

this topic is always so funny

[pulsar path]

I'm literally a Zoro fan girl(not a girl but I'm still a Zoro fan girl)

[sturdy steeple]

Sanji fans are greedy as hell. Good writing and as strong as Zoro? What else do they want?

[barren token]

After wano they realised they cant argue about being well written anymore unfortunately

[prisma yacht]

[graceful grove]

some bitches

[ashen perch]

okay well 181 is 0.55% greater than 180.

[scenic dirge]

Lmfaooo ok?? You think Luffy thinks like this? “Hmmm Zoro and Sanji are similar in strength so I’ll give them 10 Nakama points each for that, but Sanji cooks for me so I’ll give him another 10 Nakama points. Hmmm chopper has saved our lives a few times, he can have 5 Nakama points. Brook’s music has been a little off lately, might have to deduct some Nakama points from him”

[ashen perch]

sure, Zoro is 0.55% stronger than Sanji, thats fine

[barren token]

Maybe get 181 bitches

[sturdy steeple]

SHs have social rating for sure

[pulsar path]

Sorry had to clarify so my inbox didn't end up like Arsals

[sturdy steeple]

“That guy cooks for me so I like him more. Can’t even become PK without him”

[graceful grove]

Luffy is an idiot according to Oda. he don't know how to powerscale

[hot cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/usual-suspects-spongebob-meme-gif-23137103

[pulsar path]

That's how Luffy be winning

[ashen perch]

not saying strength doesnt matter smh, I was saying the difference in their strengths is so little that it doesnt matter

[scenic dirge]

Does Luffy give an annual bonus to the crewmate with the most Nakama points that year?

[tranquil blade]

Yeah

and Zoro wins every year because he's the coolest

[barren token]

He does do this but it goes like "hmm usopp played sumo with me today plus a trillion nakama points" "Sanji said i couldn't eat all the meat minus a billion points"

[pulsar path]

Yeah like NamI would let Luffy touch anything of value

[sturdy steeple]

Bruhhhh
SHs getting all that package and social bonuses
Good job offer ngl

[hazy turret]

Yes the story makes it a point several times in the story to have Zoro fight the stronger opponent

[ashen perch]

no it doesnt

[hazy turret]

OK

[sturdy steeple]

Some day people will stop paying attention to magazines and in general additional sources crap

[hazy turret]

This is blatant canon denial

[barren token]

Its all sanjibros have man don't take it away

[tranquil blade]

Zoro could kill Queen but Sanji could never scar Kaido, I think that's the main takeaway here

[hot cairn]

arsal probably was one of the people who thought sanji would fight King

[ashen perch]

King and Queen are also practically equals, their titles reflects this too, unless you really dislike women

[graceful grove]

say what

[barren token]

Take it up with poker buddy

[hazy turret]

Huh???

[sturdy steeple]

Bro isn’t it the other way around

Seriously

[tranquil blade]

"Practically equals"

[scenic dirge]

I really dislike women. Now what

[tranquil blade]

https://tenor.com/view/lectyres-speed-stream-speed-laughing-ishowspeed-speed-gif-9612557955943858519

[ashen perch]

you dont need to announce it I know

[hazy turret]

Literally where did that last line even come from

[barren token]

Even from

[graceful grove]

now you are a true OP fan.

[ashen perch]

When Zoro and Sanji clashed against the same Gorosei in Egghead, that was another indication they are equals. There wasnt some difference there

[scenic dirge]

Finally

All it took was a bit of misogyny

[tranquil blade]

but Sanji got hoed and Zoro had an equal clash

[barren token]

sanji is circumcised and zoro isn't the winner is clear

[tranquil blade]

I think Zoro won

[pulsar path]

Yeah but haven't you guys seen the Internet

[hot cairn]

got it, what's the reward?

[golden valley]

For whatever reason, somethings need to be said blatantly

[ashen perch]

Zoro got knocked away when his attack was boosted by Jinbe lol, and then he ran

[hot cairn]

"practically equals" LOL

[sturdy steeple]

I do think Oda introducing Gaban kind of shifted the idea of wings in favour of Sanji but it’s fine if they’re not equals. I don’t think you can have a civil discussion about that here though.

[ashen perch]

and when they fight against Dorry and Brogy, that would be yet another indication of them being equals

[prisma yacht]

Random sidequest spawn

[pulsar path]

Peak she's so pretty

[tranquil blade]

He didnt run he just knew it would take too long to kill Venus

[frozen aspen]

boring bait, do better

[prisma yacht]

Guys make sure to claim it

[cloud ember]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-anime-nico-robin-no-pissed-gif-16624645

Dont ever make that face in vivis body again

[scenic dirge]

These are some of my favorite anime community “memes”. Gifted vs hardworking shit never fails

[scenic dirge]

😭 😭

[golden valley]

The Roger and WB one isn’t really backed by anything

[ashen perch]

no he ran lol, he knew he cant handle all that

[tranquil blade]

Zoro's never ran from a fight in his life

[pine scaffold]

I actually did this btw

[scenic dirge]

Bonney is so naturally GIFTED. Fucking nepo baby. She didn’t endure the grind and hustle that Luffy had to

[tranquil blade]

Also Sanji wouldve DIED to Lucci

[barren token]

They are rivals and they are on a similar level but to say oda doesn't make it a point to always have zoro slightly better than Sanji is cope

[cloud ember]

did u color these?

[graceful grove]

ok i was wrong. Sanji is stronger

[hot cairn]

agreed with everything

[sturdy steeple]

Oda js being hilarious about that.
He introduces Gaban, says he stands toe to toe with Rayleigh and then another character says he’s prolly like top 3 in the crew. He knows that powerscalers discussing that brings numbers, lol.

[pulsar path]

It's so bad like honestly I think it's funny for Sanji and Zoro but white beared and Roger we don't even know lmao

[barren token]

Wrong

[ashen perch]

WB "hardworking" - strongest paramecia of all time
Roger "gifted" - just has Haki

[craggy vapor]

Understood 🫡

[ashen perch]

???

[pine scaffold]

@high void

[cold steppe]

No

[pulsar path]

Facebook is dumb lol

[scenic dirge]

Yeah where the hell did they pull that one from?? 😭

[golden valley]

Rught

[scenic dirge]

They just be making shit up

[pulsar path]

Omggg it's canchome!!

[cold steppe]

Wait

[pulsar path]

Where by zatch bell fans at

[hot cairn]

Oda literally used a drug to make Zoro fight the strongest Kaido subordinate

[graceful grove]

Karoo pov

[hot cairn]

what are we doing here

[high void]

Good work

[tranquil blade]

WB is probably also like 60-70% buccaneer too it's kinda cheating tbh

[cold steppe]

Bruh I thought we were on #manga it always happens

[tranquil blade]

Roger and Garp are the hardest working ones

[hazy turret]

All these people are gifted, where’s Kid???

[cloud ember]

Oda will never explain why people in One Piece live so long or get so large

[high void]

I think that's because lots of the Marines don't actually believe in their mission

[craggy vapor]

What’s her name?

[graceful grove]

i don't know about them but i'm just wasting some minutes before i'm done with work

[scenic dirge]

My teachers said I was gifted in elementary school and put me in a special program for gifted kids

[cloud ember]

Frobin

[pulsar path]

Ranki?

[barren token]

Dream power (power of dreams)

[sturdy steeple]

Zoro will almost every time fight a stronger opponent because it’s in his character to take on challenges.

[high void]

I'm not convinced that the WGs brand of justice is supported by all of the big figures

[cloud ember]

or Frabin

[tranquil blade]

That program was such a scam I remember it

[cloud ember]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-marineford-zoro-robin-zoro-one-piece-zoro-gif-27056396

[hot cairn]

the story is pretty clear by putting Zoro fight the no. 2 and Sanji the no. 3

[cold steppe]

Not to mention it's his main role

[sturdy steeple]

Fuck
Robin low diff

[hazy turret]

I wanted to be in the gifted program so bad and by the time I got to that level it got cancelled

[barren token]

I'm BORED of zoro vs sanji talk about something else NOW

[scenic dirge]

I got to play games on an iPod touch. That’s all I remember

[pulsar path]

You know what he did work hard during him and luffys training arc wtf was law doing that's why he doesn't have coc dude just got a good as fruit and sailed

[craggy vapor]

Zoropp is cursed

[ashen perch]

I didnt say there isnt a slight difference though, I said its a difference that is basically negligible. I hate to use this one but the clearest indication of the gap between their opponents was actually from Enies Lobby, where Kaku had a higher Doriki than Jabra by only 20 points.

[pulsar path]

Bro after doflaminog and kid going after shanks and yonko

[sturdy steeple]

Yeah, he literally fought an opponent in a packed arc. Oda wants to see him fighting, lol.

[cold steppe]

He looks alive

[scenic dirge]

Clearly just not gifted enough 🤷‍♀️

[hazy turret]

Honestly…you’re not wrong at all

[hot cairn]

you should drop the best argument to finish that topic

who's stronger cunk

[hazy turret]

😕

[pulsar path]

When your sword takes over your body

[sturdy steeple]

I like how both Law and Kid wouldn’t be able to do shit with their fruits If not for their knowledge on medicine and engineering.

[cloud ember]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-zoro-one-piece-usopp-amit-gajare-gif-3912512494606799311

[golden valley]

King vs Queen
Who wins

[frozen aspen]

mihawk vs Shanks

[ashen perch]

King and Queen's bounties are also kind of in the same boat, 1.39B v 1.32B bounty in spite of King being a Lunarian is an indication of how close they are in strength.

[craggy vapor]

Jack

[hazy turret]

Hold on now

[tranquil blade]

King eats him alive I'm afraid

[barren token]

Sanji is stronger because hes trained himself through cbt

[strong wadi]

That’s when you go big brain and explain doriki doesn’t count devil fruits and since Jyabra is more experienced with his devil fruit, the Jyabra of enies lobby > kaku of enies lobby

[tranquil blade]

Base King = full power Queen

[hazy turret]

Idk about law’s privileged ass, but we don’t know if kid had any engineering background

[sturdy steeple]

Queen becomes invisible
Low diff

[ashen perch]

truuuuuuuuue

[scenic dirge]

If each SH were to be from a unique US state, where would they be from?

[sturdy steeple]

What do you mean background? He’s proficient in it.

[craggy vapor]

is this canon?

[pulsar path]

Law needs to catch up

[ashen perch]

Usopp would be from America, just America

[pulsar path]

Yes lol

[cold steppe]

Not a fair comparison
Sanji defeated queen easily while zoro literally nearly died after king

[hazy turret]

Before the devil fruit??

[barren token]

If each SH were to be from a unique Melbourne suburb, where would they be from?

[hazy turret]

Don’t

[graceful grove]

good thing Fats accepted you into that program years later. it's never too late

[hazy turret]

Arsal

[ashen perch]

LMAO

[hazy turret]

Arsal DONT

[craggy vapor]

I need to rewatch pre-TS OP

[ashen perch]

no I wasnt smh

[hot cairn]

where is fats

[sturdy steeple]

Well dude was seen with robot toys and stuff in his childhood. He was building things since day one, yeah

[pulsar path]

Enis Lobby is the peak of peak

[tranquil blade]

Kid learned how to build through trial and error idk if he knows how to do that math though

He kinda just does it

[hazy turret]

Well either way, we know devil fruits choose their user

[tranquil blade]

That's a zoan thing

[barren token]

Does kid need to know how to build the shit he makes

[hazy turret]

I know

[barren token]

Isn't it all held together through magnets

[fallen meteor]

isnt he an engineer

[sturdy steeple]

Kind of

[hazy turret]

You’re not ready for the df to be a mythical hito iron man df

[tawny panther]

lmao

[pulsar path]

It would have been nice if kid was like a robotist

[sturdy steeple]

You can’t move a robotic arm if it’s attached like shit lol

[barren token]

He's not like operating a robot hes just moving metal in the shape of a robot

[sturdy steeple]

He also built an entire rail gun

[frozen aspen]

isn't he an orphan

[hazy turret]

Yeah normally I’d be on your side cunk but giant laser gun

[barren token]

He does have giant laser gun

[craggy vapor]

yes it’s suuuuperrr

[tranquil blade]

I dont think Kid has any formal knowledge on engineering I think he just puts shit together until it works

[tawny panther]

yep , entire island & family died in front of him

[sturdy steeple]

It’s not laser but yes

[hazy turret]

I think so

[graceful grove]

can't wait to see what cool upgrade oda gives Franky in Elbaf.

[hazy turret]

Oh you mean law?

[pulsar path]

The beginning of super every week 🥹

[tranquil blade]

Well Law lied about his backstory

[tawny panther]

oh right i forgot about that meme.. didn’t know it was still a thing