also-manga

[tawny panther]

cause shanks ended the convo saying this

[frigid gulch]

Swordsmanship is loosely defined in OP too so it encompasses all sorts of stuff

[tawny panther]

WB felt disrespected lol

[stone tulip]

Pretty ironic cause if it’s Whitebeard or Kaido they would try to invalidate their titles cause of Imu yet somehow Mihawk is the exception smh.

[timber glacier]

think Loki is more of Davy dude then a Nika head

[golden valley]

Shanks is highlighting that BB is hiding his strength, he uses the scar as a metric. If Blackbeard could scar Shanks and felt like jumping to a squad leader, Shanks is saying he could do that.

[hot cairn]

I prefer not to speak, if I do I’m in big trouble

[golden valley]

On the basis of his strength

[sage temple]

I wonder if Shanks told Loki not to go for the WG yet similar to how Shanks told WB not to go for Blackbeard

[frigid gulch]

Ngl it just seems like you’re tryna say his title is invalid

Which wouldn’t be good

[hot cairn]

not at all

[tranquil blade]

Look Mihawk has a divine departure level attack in there somewhere is all I'm gonna say

Maybe a few

[frigid gulch]

So then what’s the problem

[stone tulip]

Yet you can’t apply to same logic as Kaido being stronger than Imu ? Kinda hypocritical ngl.

Not saying Kaido is stronger than Imu, just saying using Imu to invalidate Kaido’s title doesn’t count due to the nature behind Imu’s existence.

[frigid gulch]

As it pertains to swordsmanship

[leaden rivet]

He’s talking about his strength but he’s really just highlighting his opportunism’s. The strength coincides with each other.

[maiden charm]

This shouldn't be a crazy take

[leaden rivet]

No…Kaido’a rifle isn’t narratively necessary

[hot cairn]

yeah he does probably

[tawny panther]

what’s so funny about WB getting mad at Shanks for telling him to leave Teach alone … WB said the same shit to Ace lol

[leaden rivet]

Mihawk not being the strongest swordsman ruins Zoro’s story, Kaido it does nothing

[tranquil blade]

Yeah but WB got ego, he isnt gonna let someone else tell him what to do

[frigid gulch]

Swordsmanship in OP can incorporate elements

[stone tulip]

@sage temple thoughts on this ?

[frigid gulch]

Brook’s is from a fruit

[tawny panther]

lol true , especially someone who used to be a little cabin boy on his rivals crew

[frigid gulch]

So Law’s sword attacks are a form of swordsmanship

[tranquil blade]

Yeah Shanks is still relatively young so it makes it even more disrespectful to Whitebeard

[pine ridge]

imu is a weaker swordsman than mihawk. and by that I mean if imu for some unknown reason limited himself to swordsmanship only, mihawk would have the advantage

[golden valley]

Ok, sure, but that still highlights the point Im making. Anyone notable can sneak and scar Shanks if hes not on guard, he wouldn’t tattletale just because they can. In BB’s case, he’s highlighting his strength by saying “Even I wasn’t careless and he scarred me.” That does not read as being offguard or being impressive for taking Shanks offguard

[craggy vapor]

u sure about that?

[frigid gulch]

Basically whatever counts

[pine scaffold]

This would be great ngl

[tawny panther]

WB : you don’t tell me to don’t go after Teach !
I say don’t go after Teach !! 🤬

[frigid gulch]

That’s what Mihawk’s title is concerned with. It should be valid unless Zoro is supposed to be a fraud EoS

[hot cairn]

I think him and Shanks are equal in strength (don’t kill me). It’s one of those things I think Oda will never answer lol. I think Shanks has more expertise in Conquerors Haki and Mihawk has more expertise in swordsmanship and armament.

[tranquil blade]

tbf Whitebeard also willingly helped the guy in the end, and Xebec basically scouted him while he was still a rookie

[stone tulip]

What kind of logic is that ? Like come on either you invalidate all titles due to Imu’s existence or you acknowledge all titles are legit and the fact that Imu is special case due to his circumstances.

You can’t just have both ways especially in regards to Mihawk.

[tough dust]

lol

[frigid gulch]

Naw you’re fine. I personally believe this too

[pine scaffold]

Maybe the reason Loki calls Shanks a coward is due to Loki not really understanding that he cant just rush and try taking on the WG too early

He gotta wait for Luffy (Nika)

[tawny panther]

my only problem with it is Zoro was with Law for weeks on the same ship and not once asked him or tried to talk to him about swordsmanship but did with Kinemon .. it’s like Zoro doesn’t consider Law a swordsman or something .. that’s always been weird to me

[hot cairn]

oh

[frigid gulch]

Oda probably won’t answer it

[sage temple]

Characters who've never met before actually doesn't seem like Loki and Luffy, I thought this before but now it doesn't make as much sense. Loki and Luffy still are important to have met but not as much right now as Loki and Mosa.

And the repitition of the fact that they will finally meet in this world makes me think Poseidon and whatever weapon/being the arrow pattern means will finally come in contact with eachother now

[tawny panther]

Law even got a cursed blade and still no convo

[pine ridge]

I think shanks could be slightly stronger while being the weaker swordsman

[frigid gulch]

That’s what he does

[hot cairn]

thought for sure I would get jumped for that

[leaden rivet]

Your entire argument rests on the fact that Imu is a swordsman when you have no evidence of such

[stone tulip]

It doesn’t ruin Zoro’s story cause Mihawk is the one who has the official title regardless plus pretty sure the climax may end up having all straw hats fight Imu anyways.

[hot cairn]

yeah that’s his thing which kinda sucks but alas

[hot cairn]

me too, well

[leaden rivet]

The official title doesn’t matter

[frigid gulch]

When did he talk with Kinemon

[hot cairn]

it’s debatable

[leaden rivet]

What matters is Mihawk being the strongest when Zoro defeats him

[frigid gulch]

You mean when he said he was interested in his fighting style ?

[gloomy tree]

i guess they are assuming since Zoro knew the flame sword style they talked about it

[leaden rivet]

It would be so dumb for Zoro to beat someone who’s not actually the WSS on a technicality

[golden valley]

Imo, I think Mihawk should be the greatest swordsman in history so there isn’t discussion on the strongest swordsman of all time

[stone tulip]

While I am still not sure about Mosa being Shirahoshi I do buy the possibility that Oda was referring to Mosa and Loki in that message for sure

[hot cairn]

I do believe those theories about Shyriu killing Mihawk and becoming the strongest swordsman are LAME AF

[gloomy tree]

which is a stretch, for all we know Zoro might have just watched him and copied it

[frigid gulch]

Oh that

Judging by the way Zoro said it

I assume Zoro learned through observing

He didn’t ask him

[golden valley]

He did

Learn it from observing

[gloomy tree]

yeah he said he stole it

[frigid gulch]

He just saw his technique a couple times

[somber flare]

Nothing has ever been labeled as the strongest of all time I don’t think anyone in universe cares about that

[shut ginkgo]

We’ve seen how imu can attack, why are we assuming there a swordsman?

[dense haven]

its his sharingan in the closed eye

[frigid gulch]

[stone tulip]

I do have evidence with his introduction scene at least, but you missed my point with how illogical your argument is cause Imu is meant to be an exception here, it doesn’t invalidate any other titles at all due to his existence and these titles are meant to be at specific categories anyways.

[sage temple]

Yeah true and this gives potential for Mosa to be crazy important now

[pine scaffold]

@sage temple It's possible Loki secretly respects Shanks and hes just trying to act tough in front of Luffy, since he calls him a ''great pirate'' in front of Shamrock

Maybe it wasn't that much of a ''fight'' than we thought, but just Shanks trying to talk him out of things

[woven talon]

Man shanks sucks at warning people. He’s always too late. Ace and Harald died because he was chilling somewhere instead of hurrying

[leaden rivet]

And now Luffy qualifies since he used a sword more than Imu

[frigid gulch]

Yup

[sage temple]

This could definitely be the case

[leaden rivet]

So now Zoro will never be the strongest swordsman

[sage temple]

I wouldn't mind them coming to an agreement instead of a fight

[stone tulip]

Yeah that shit is lame, Zoro is only one allowed to beat Mihawk

[frigid gulch]

That’s the one thing

[sage temple]

I think they might've made it look like a fight ngl

[formal wagon]

zoro one piece

december

[pine scaffold]

it reminds me of Harald and Rocks's meeting at sea, them both talking to each other

[frigid gulch]

Weevil Piece

[craggy vapor]

it’s funny how bad Luffy is with a sword tho

[sage temple]

Yeah, Harald and Rocks or Shanks and Whitebeard for sure

[pine ridge]

zoro beats luffy if luffy has to fight with a sword

[stone tulip]

Missed my point cause Imu could have knows swordsmanship cause again we never saw him fight in physical way yet, like he could have been skillful in swordsmanship for example

[pine scaffold]

They all are similar scenes tbh

[frigid gulch]

Because Luffy has no finesse at all

If he even learned slightly

Hed beat Zoro

[golden valley]

Well what does that exactly mean

A sword in hand?

[leaden rivet]

He could’ve but you’re just making this all up. You can’t use hypothetical headcanon as a response to an argument

[sage temple]

And this could mean the "old friend he thought was dead" could be Loki

[frigid gulch]

I think “technique” has become less relevant

It’s all just coat with haki and swing

[stone tulip]

I can definitely buy Loki being tsundere towards Shanks cause it reminds me of how Buggy talked about Shanks plus Loki does seem to treat everyone he cared about the same way too

[frigid gulch]

As long as you can use a sword to some degree

[golden valley]

But that’s considered technique

[pine ridge]

basically limited to sword attacks/techniques

[tough dust]

same chapter he wanna kill em both in future lol

[craggy vapor]

isn’t that basically what all OP fans do?

[golden valley]

Ah then yeah

[leaden rivet]

Maybe the haki infusion works differently?

[frigid gulch]

Yes but my point is the way people go on about technique

They assume a higher level

[leaden rivet]

Like Luffy may not be able to infuse his haki with a sword as well as Zoro?

[frigid gulch]

I only think a basic amount is needed

[stone tulip]

I mean I could say the same to you too cause again we aren’t even sure what the hell Imu is anyways hence why I used that logic against yours, but let’s all agree to disagree then

[leaden rivet]

I don’t agree to disagree. Especially not when I’m right.

[pine scaffold]

Loki is a good person at heart, it's just the way he goes about things is a little reckless

He's learning tho and people like Shanks are steering him in the right direction

[leaden rivet]

Imu isn’t a swordsman so he can’t be an exception to something he’s not included in.

[frigid gulch]

Yea if that’s a thing then it’s fair

[stone tulip]

@pine scaffold thoughts ?

[frigid gulch]

It doesn’t seem like a very high level thing to me though

Cause of how some Marines were doing it

[leaden rivet]

Well I suppose if hakifying your sandals works the same as hakifying a sword

[pine scaffold]

interesting tbh

[golden valley]

Maybe you have to will the sword to use your haki on it

[pine scaffold]

I think its Mosa and Loki

[frigid gulch]

Idk if I can think of someone just picking up something random to coat it in haki

[stone tulip]

Yeah I always knew Loki was good from the start anyways not just during what Lola said about him but also how Luffy interacted with him too, if he was evil then it would have been more clear imo.

[formal wagon]

thats a good catch

[frigid gulch]

Preferably they don’t regularly use a weapon

[pine ridge]

gaban with the key

[frigid gulch]

He uses axes normally

[stone tulip]

I do think so too cause how early in the arc Loki emphasized that too

[pine scaffold]

Luffy wouldn't have been so friendly with him if he knew shit was up lmao

[frigid gulch]

So he’d be able

[stone tulip]

Yeah so whatever Mural is mentioned is another candidate too

[pine ridge]

oh you mean someone tha doesn't use a weapon

[frigid gulch]

Yup

[tough dust]

if fodder marine can do it i don't see why luffy can't

[pine scaffold]

if Mosa is Shirahoshi, Loki and Shirahoshi might be the two sovereigns

[frigid gulch]

But it’s basically the same for all weapons I think

[stone tulip]

Yeah Luffy is emotionally intelligent and when he bonds with someone he can fully understand their emotions well so immediately knew something was up when we saw Luffy vibing with someone who is meant to be “pure evil”

[frigid gulch]

So idk if it really matters that you use a sword

Coating is coating

[somber flare]

I’m sure luffy could do it when he’s seen zoro do it a million times

[tough dust]

the only issue is that luffy will just be bad at swinning the sword thats all

[frigid gulch]

You can coat a farking key

Among other things

[pine ridge]

melee weapons for sure. guns and stuff are separate even from them

[frigid gulch]

If you have the concept down, you can coat anything under the sun

[stone tulip]

I still doubt that Mosa is Shirahoshi due to inconsistency with speech pattern and what Shirahoshi has stated to Luffy, but Mosa might have some connections to her tho

[pine scaffold]

I think the whole ''shaggy' line between Harald and Neptune was too on the nose

[frigid gulch]

Even that, coat the gun and then it seems like the bullets come out coated too

[pine scaffold]

its like Oda's screaming it at you imo

[stone tulip]

Could be but it also could be a red herring too

Which is 50/50

[pine scaffold]

we'll see

[sage temple]

This just doesn't refute anything he said

[stone tulip]

But if it is Shirahoshi Oda would need to explain the inconsistency

[tough dust]

the fact that loki never met mosa at all kinda makes me hold on to that

[stone tulip]

Yeah Loki is petty person too

[pine ridge]

but if we look at why shira was called shaggy it was because neptune was shaggy himself so his kids would be as well. so it could just be one of the other kids

[sage temple]

Not any more petty than Luffy

[stone tulip]

Yeah I think Loki and Mosa being the one who Oda was referring to is very possible especially if it’s related to this arc alone

[stone tulip]

Also another two pairs could be related to Vivi reunion too cause Luffy may run into her at some point in the arc if the X message was indeed once again the same gag as Ace and Jinbe too.

[stone tulip]

Oh for sure

[pine scaffold]

Cute scene lol

[frigid gulch]

I feel like this discussion is fairly similar to the Elbaf fruit

Which has a pretty good chance of simply being the Nika fruit

But theorizing otherwise is alright

[somber flare]

I hope not

[stone tulip]

Wonder what’s happening to Mosa that may possibly lead to them to arrive at Elbaf if it is what Oda is talking about

[tough dust]

the idea of loki having broken fruit is fun

[pine scaffold]

Thats what im thinking

[tough dust]

hence why i don't wanna it to be nika

[sage temple]

[stone tulip]

I mean it’s either the Nika fruit or it’s a whole new fruit that Loki ate. No other possibilities

[frigid gulch]

Yea

[pine ridge]

kidnapped and loki has to go save them maybe?

[pine scaffold]

I will admit I used to hate the idea of Loki having a softer side

but im warming up to it now

[frigid gulch]

But those possibilities are endless

[olive sigil]

Green bit is being attacked and he goes with Leo and the rest of the boys to elbaf with the rest of the grand fleet

[stone tulip]

Yeah like it’s implied that Mosa is about to do something drastic too

[frigid gulch]

You see all sorts of ideas

When they say it’s a different fruit I mean

[pine scaffold]

I think shit is going down so they gotta evacuate

[stone tulip]

I am looking at the angle that if the two people that never crossed path will finally meet in this arc is Loki and Mosa, so if it is then it’s less about Mosa being kidnapped and more like something happened that may lead them to Elbaf.

[stone tulip]

Who are you talking about?

[stone tulip]

Who knows

[olive sigil]

Mosa

[stone tulip]

What’s up with green bit ?

[olive sigil]

Well mosa lives there

[stone tulip]

Not confirmed at all ??

[olive sigil]

I guess something is happening on green bit or dressrosa

[olive sigil]

The guy who I think is mosa lives in green bit

[golden valley]

I remember the pure evil Loki beliefs

[pine scaffold]

when Elbaf started I wanted Loki to be a badass

[golden valley]

Final Villain of Elbaf being Loki got rebranded into Domi Reversi Loki

[olive sigil]

He’s not pure evil, just a bit evil

[pine scaffold]

like just pure stoic/whatever

[proud pivot]

@pine scaffold jolly your name now

[olive sigil]

I made the mistake of looking at SB’s pfp

[frigid gulch]

Evil Rocks

[stone tulip]

Ok

[pine scaffold]

but now I understand that it's okay for characters to show a goofier/sillier side

[olive sigil]

You’re not going to ask who?

[pine scaffold]

and to be compassionate

[stone tulip]

A rare sb w, he is finally learning 🥹

[stone tulip]

Who is it ?

[olive sigil]

I think him

[pine scaffold]

@proud pivot W OR L NAME

[olive sigil]

Look at the beard

Same as the snail

[proud pivot]

W

[olive sigil]

Not bad

I also put my Christmas name

[sage temple]

Reminded me

[pine scaffold]

W

[olive sigil]

Come on Socrates you could have gone with mosanta claus

[pine scaffold]

W too

[olive sigil]

Thanks

[glacial bear]

We all feeling the holiday cheer

[frigid gulch]

Make this your pfp Sb

[pine scaffold]

I think imma make it christmas Sukuna ngl

[olive sigil]

Do it SB

[pine scaffold]

I know yall hate jjk but 💔 😭

[olive sigil]

Remove the sukuna

I don’t hate jjk, the picture is just scary

[pine scaffold]

HOW

dw im getting a new one now

[olive sigil]

Can I tell you a jjk character for you to use in private?

[pine scaffold]

actually gonna have to be tmmr

since its late

[pine scaffold]

ping me in #other-series

[olive sigil]

Will you do it?

[pine scaffold]

I will do it

[olive sigil]

[pine scaffold]

IF NOT HIM, it'll be someone else other than Sukuna

[olive sigil]

It has to be him

[proud pivot]

Damn I just noticed how oda is setting up Imu vs Luffy, Blackbeard and Loki

[pine scaffold]

😭

[proud pivot]

It's really gonna be a boss fight huh

[olive sigil]

Don’t forget buggy shanks and Coby

[proud pivot]

What are buggy and coby doing 😂

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/luffy-and-loki-luffy-gear-5-loki-one-piece-luffy-one-piece-gif-12298915513185338849

[olive sigil]

Representing whitebeard and garp

[pine scaffold]

Goodnight chat

[wraith mantle]

gn

[proud pivot]

Goodnight sb

[olive sigil]

To recreate the god valley scene

[wraith mantle]

oh its you sb

fuck you then

[sage temple]

Possibly

[olive sigil]

Good night antimony

[pine scaffold]

DUDE?

[wraith mantle]

jk

[pine scaffold]

thanks to everyone else

[pine scaffold]

😭

[olive sigil]

Khalid

You know sb doesn’t like jokes

He’s very serious about his hate of goofiness

[pine scaffold]

no

[pine scaffold]

@olive sigil not anymore

OKAY NOW GOODNIGHT

[olive sigil]

Sb character development?

[tawny panther]

damn no Dragon ? lol

[olive sigil]

Hi rich

[digital spear]

me when I feel the aura

[glacial bear]

Yuppp. I’m feeling the aura rn

[proud pivot]

I didn't feel the need to mention Dragon since everyone probably knows he's gonna be there

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/loki-onepieceloki-elbaph-elbaf-one-piece-gif-3322664052929498843

[olive sigil]

Me too. In my left elbow

[tawny panther]

so Luffy Teach Loki Dragon , will any marine join ? or just Pirate & Rev & Giant

[olive sigil]

Dragon is going to be replaced by Sabo in the new generation

[tawny panther]

a scary but possible reality

[glacial bear]

Me when that aura is absolute peak cinema

[tidal ice]

loki is pretty insane huh

[glacial bear]

He’s so beast 🔥

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/view/apple-dog-plankton-battle-duel-fight-gif-7688109332376548358

[proud pivot]

Not sure, any other don't make sense rn

[tawny panther]

agree

[tropic hound]

[grand flower]

I love this point

[dense rapids]

In a alternate reality

[thick mango]

Buggy clown mom will be the most tragic character in the story

Kuma who

[olive sigil]

After losing her husband on god valley and already raising a little boy, she eventually ends up learning she was pregnant with another child and buggy is born on lulusia

[olive sigil]

Kuma is the reason buggy was sent flying on god valley

[obtuse imp]

Anyone else think the “two people who never crossed paths will finally meet” is bait and isn’t Shanks and Luffy

[stone tulip]

Sounds so random tbh

[obtuse imp]

Even though sounds like we’re heading to Lodestar soon

[olive sigil]

It’s definitely not shanks and luffy but I could see shanks and luffy being the second people who meet

[thick mango]

His tragedy will be nothing compared to lady d clown

[stone tulip]

Yeah like it’s weirdly fitting somehow and it may narrow down who it is too

[obtuse imp]

My crack theory is BB meeting Imu

[dense rapids]

Probably just Imu and Luffy

[tidal ice]

anyone subscribe to that referencing shirahoshi and loki

[obtuse imp]

Imu and Luffy are meeting in Elbaf though

Unless the Gunko possession stops

[dense rapids]

Yea

They haven’t met yet

[obtuse imp]

Oh cuz technically it’s next year

Fair

[dense rapids]

Yea

[obtuse imp]

Was thinking next arc

[hazy echo]

https://x.com/dappi936/status/2002718134088908850

DAPI (@dappi936)

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X · Dec 21, 2025, 12:29 PM

[stone tulip]

If you mean Mosa and Loki this is most likely case scenario

[obtuse imp]

Then yeah it’s probably Luffy finally meeting Imu

[olive sigil]

The whole believing that Loki is a good guy is very tontatta like. The fact the den den mushi looks like gancho. The name shaggy/mosa meaning hairy. I think it all makes sense

[dense rapids]

Two who never met - Imu and Luffy or Loki and Shirahoshi

Two who will finally meet - Luffy and Shanks or Shanks and Blackbeard

Those are my guesses

[stone tulip]

Imu and Luffy is also very likely too or even Vivi related like meeting Imu or Sabo.

It could be mean Luffy and Dragon too. Or Loki and Mosa too. Could be anyone that is relevant to the arc really.

[dense rapids]

Out of all those Loki and Shirahoshi are who I care for less

Luffy and Shanks or Shanks and Blackbeard breaking the internet

[stone tulip]

The dendenmushi was because it looked like that tho

[olive sigil]

It looks just like him. And we know mosa means hairy

That’s like the hairiest dude in one piece

[stone tulip]

The another pair could also be the Vivi reunion too cause how Oda also seemed to allude to that in beginning of the arc too like her meeting straw hats again or at least Luffy first.

[dense rapids]

Yea I forget about Vivi

[stone tulip]

Shanks and Luffy is also very possible too

[dense rapids]

Makes sense seeing as she was foreshadowed at the beginning of the arc

[olive sigil]

Oh maybe it’s Karoo and Vivi

[stone tulip]

Would be nice

[olive sigil]

No Karoo no crew

[thick mango]

Karoo is back in alabasta

[glacial bear]

Oh my goodness

[olive sigil]

He saw the X mark

[thick mango]

If it makes you feel better call him the guardian diety of alabasta

[olive sigil]

That’s Pell and Chaka

[dense rapids]

Red Line Desert arc gonna be crazy

[glacial bear]

Chopper vs Doc Q. Karoo vs Stronger

[dense rapids]

Empty battlefield for the final war

[thick mango]

Pell shouldn't be alive and I refuse to acknowledge him

[glacial bear]

Vivi vs uhhh- Jesus Burgess yeah

[olive sigil]

Karoo stealing Brook’s fight?

[grand flower]

Ochoku shares many similar design elements with the brothers Caribou and Coribou, having similar pointed ears, cheekbones, nose, and even facial shape as Caribou while having similar dark lips and circles around his eyes like Coribou. Any relationship between the brothers and Ochoku is yet to be confirmed.

Ochoku's status as a "pirate guru" (海賊教祖, kaizoku kyōso?) is also rather similar to Caribou's own belief in God.[10]

[glacial bear]

Brook not gonna fight the horse

[grand flower]

https://media.tenor.com/iTFnuEwLkmMAAAAM/flight-reacts-shocked.gif

[olive sigil]

Come on they’re both basically dead. It’s the grim reaper and his horse vs chopper and Brook

[glacial bear]

I mean Brook could fight Kuzan cuz ice powers

[olive sigil]

If carrot doesn’t join, Vivi can have vasco shot

[olive sigil]

That’s for Jinbe

[glacial bear]

Jinbe is gonna fight Vasco shot because water vs liquor

[thick mango]

Jinbe is honorable and vasco is bb's biggest scumbag

[olive sigil]

That’s such an easy fight. Give Jinbe a challenge. We don’t need another who’s who

[glacial bear]

Jinbe vs Shiryu of the rain

[olive sigil]

I like that more than vasco but that’s Zoro’s fight

[ruby moat]

BBP just doesn’t line up well with SHP for matchups

[glacial bear]

Zoro will fight Pizarro because he’ll remind him of Pica

[brittle basin]

What the hell did they do to Kaku?

[glacial bear]

Ez pz lemon squeezy

[thick mango]

It's gonna be a shifting mix up of team fights not a series of static 1v1s

[glacial bear]

Tbf it’s either Vasco or Sanjuan wolf

[stone tulip]

Yeah so what truly think it is if we are talking about this arc alone:

1. “Characters who'd never met before will finally meet!” = Loki/Mosa, Imu/Luffy, Imu/Vivi, Luffy/Dragon, possibly Luffy/Shamrock, Luffy/MMBF the two individuals that the Murals hinted at.

2. “Another pair of characters will come face to face!” = Vivi/Luffy, Vivi/Robin, Luffy/Shanks, Shanks/Blackbeard, Shanks/Shamrock, Shanks/Garling, maybe Shanks/Dragon, maybe Blackbeard/Garp.

[stone tulip]

Yeah people need to realize that especially with Kuzan too

Like even if the crew is even, it won’t be 1 vs 1 plus Blackbeard pirates specializes in jumping on people

[glacial bear]

I can see Luffy vs Blackbeard & Kuzan

[prisma idol]

I thought this was shipping LMFAOOOOOOOO I WAS SO CONFUSED ABOUT SOME OF THESE

[glacial bear]

Then Kuzan vs Sanji

[thick mango]

Exactly it's not their style to begin with

[glacial bear]

Then Kuzan vs Zoro

[thick mango]

They don't care about honorable duels

[glacial bear]

Then Kuzan vs Jinbe

[stone tulip]

Fuck no this isn’t about shipping lmao

[thick mango]

They would scoff at honorable duels

[brittle basin]

I'm gonna call this "shiprot" or "shippingrot." Where that's all your brain sees.

[stone tulip]

Luffy vs Kuzan is pretty likely if we go with idea that Luffy is fighting all the OG admirals cause he already fought Kizaru and he still never had a W against Kuzan too.

[grand flower]

Lafitte is Hatori btw

[prisma idol]

Shiprot? Thats the going merry

[thick mango]

Look at garps attack. Did they stand by while kuzan duels him? Not really. Shiryu stabs him. Wolf tries to swat him. Pizzaro tries to leverage implicit hostages against him

[stone tulip]

@grand flower though on this ?

[glacial bear]

Blackbeard vs Chopper because BB has finally found the human human fruit he’s been looking for in Drum Island

[stone tulip]

Although I may remove Blackbeard/Shanks cause it doesn’t seem to be clash thing

Also added MMBF on the list too

[trim lily]

the rare blackbeard/garp pull

[grand flower]

I fuck with all of these I think we're bound to see all of them

[glacial bear]

Omg WAIT

WHAT IF BROOK MEETS DR KUREHA

He’s like 90 something and she’s like 100 something

[stone tulip]

Yeah it matters of when it will happen cause Oda alluded that in this arc.

But if I had to chose which one Oda was referring to the most that is important then the former is Loki and Mosa cause the emphasize that these two had while the latter is Luffy and Vivi cause how the Vivi reunion was foreshadowed in beginning of the arc.

[glacial bear]

how old was Dr Hiriluk?

[stone tulip]

Who knows, would be interesting if he did

[stone tulip]

68

[glacial bear]

Oh damn

[stone tulip]

Yeah he was old

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-one-piece-movie-9-op-movie-9-episode-of-chopper-bloom-in-the-winter-miracle-sakura-gif-13777123316765803785

[stone tulip]

Almost made a joke about 67 number lol

[glacial bear]

I still cry everytime

[glacial bear]

I was lowkey tempted 😭

[somber flare]

It better not be Luffy and Vivi who gives a shit about that

[grand flower]

Yeah I think so too, I wanna hope for Luffy and Dragon but these make the most sense because they're the most relevant.

What if Vivi is Shaggy

[glacial bear]

Ooo

[stone tulip]

Really one of saddest thing

[stone tulip]

I do

[grand flower]

so do i

[glacial bear]

I care

[grand flower]

that's the tenth straw hat nigga

put some respeck on her name

[somber flare]

I would like to think he’s referring to characters that have met in canon but not really in any way we’ve seen in present before

[stone tulip]

Well I did entertain that possibility briefly and Vivi does speak politely too in Japanese according to Sandman when I asked him one time, but one issue I would have is how Vivi would get her hands on the den den mushi let alone even contact with Loki.

[glacial bear]

What if Sogeking finally meets Soba Mask

That would be crazy

[olive sigil]

Even when I bring up team fights people say it can’t happen

[stone tulip]

It’s pretty much a similar issue as Shirahoshi too, but it may not have that many plot holes tho

[dense rapids]

Luffy and Vivi met before

That first line makes me things these characters never met or crossed paths

[glacial bear]

Kidd & Loki perhaps

[dense rapids]

Like Buggy and Dragon or something

[grand flower]

Oda seems to be describing a set who've never met

and a set who have met

but also

[dense rapids]

Yea

[stone tulip]

*4.5th straw hat aka the real 5th crewmate

[grand flower]

@stone tulip I think you can read these as potentially multiple steps

sets*

[stone tulip]

I meant another pair which could mean someone have met before really

[dense rapids]

Loki and Shirahoshi make the most sense considering this tbh

[stone tulip]

The first part is most likely case that it’s about them

[dense rapids]

Yea

[stone tulip]

That’s how I interpreted it too

[dense rapids]

My other option is Imu and Luffy

[stone tulip]

Sets ?

[glacial bear]

What if Vegapunk & Dragon meet again?

[stone tulip]

Anyone with Imu is possible whether it’s Luffy or Vivi, another possibility is man marked by flames, or even whatever the mural is talking about

[grand flower]

multiple sets of characters

[stone tulip]

Maybe but this is referring to this arc alone

[glacial bear]

Ohhh

[dense rapids]

Yea the mural would just be pushing Loki and Shirahoshi

[thick mango]

it like i said in subsequent msgs, it would extremely out of character for bbp. They dont take a single 1v1 fight in the entire series

[dense rapids]

Two sovereigns

[glacial bear]

Honestly it could be Shamrock with Shanks or Dragon meeting again.

[stone tulip]

Possible cause I remember Oda did something similar with Egghead too with battle royal and who is fighting who

Either way it seems like we may have multiple encounters and meet ups for first time or even outright reunions too.

[grand flower]

Yeah exactly

[stone tulip]

Still not sure about Mosa being Shirahoshi due to contradictions I had spoken about before but this is possible the mural being about them maybe

[hazy echo]

He went over the Egghead one pretty fast though with the Seraphims

[stone tulip]

I mentioned that possibility too or at least Shanks and Dragon

[glacial bear]

What if Gaban & Rayleigh reunite, that would be cool

[stone tulip]

I meant something related to outside world which is pose seraphim stuff if I recall which we did get somewhat a battle royal on not just egghead but also outside world with arc literally ended with setting up “the finalists”

Which is related to one piece race

[stone tulip]

I think that might happen in final war tbh

[stone tulip]

Although gotta ask why do you think Mosa is Vivi tho ?

[glacial bear]

I would cry seeing the old Roger crew back together for a short while

[dense rapids]

Yea right

[grand flower]

immediately fight over who's number 2

[dense rapids]

Drunk Rayleigh gonna be watching from the sidelines again

[grand flower]

Could be the two sovreigns who are to meet again. Also a good way to get Vivi into the Elbaph arc

[glacial bear]

I think they would be smiling seeing Buggy & Shanks again

[dense rapids]

This time it’ll be shanks getting a hole punched in his stomach

[glacial bear]

Lmaoooo

[dense rapids]

He cares more about Shakky than Ace

[stone tulip]

Plus Shanks and Buggy too

[glacial bear]

Rayleigh shows up with Shakky & the Kuja Pirates, Gaban can show up with Ripley & the Giant Warrior Pirates

[dense rapids]

Bro speed ran to Amazon lily but didn’t go to Marineford

[olive sigil]

Every time I’ve brought up team fights people get mad

[glacial bear]

Mhm! I can see all the Roger crew members be happy to see Buggy & Shanks being great Pirate captains in their own right

[stone tulip]

I mean Vivi already has good way to get involved in the arc regardless through Imu’s involvement who is the same person who killed her father. But any other reasons besides what you said tho ?

[stone tulip]

Would be pretty wholesome and maybe this is how Buggy and Shanks would make up and become friends again.

[somber flare]

That’s only cause Blackbeard pirates usually outnumber people

[thick mango]

tag me in ill back you up

[glacial bear]

That would be perfect

[fast pagoda]

I dont think Gaban and Rayleigh will fight in the final war

They seem to not want to get involved in major conflicts

[restive wedge]

Is Momo in fighting condition yet?

[fast pagoda]

Though if Shakky and/or Colon get threatened that changes

[glacial bear]

I think Momo will be in due time, yeah

[fast pagoda]

I need a Momo and Bonney duo

[stone tulip]

Probably he will be in final arc for sure

[muted hedge]

Momo is training

[glacial bear]

I’d love to see Dalton back in the frame too

Awakened Dalton would be awesome

[fast pagoda]

I want to make my theory on what the major factions will be during the final war

Who do yall think will join Cross Guild

[restive wedge]

we need all the child soldiers we can get at this point let the Giant kids join the war too

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-dalton-dalton-one-piece-king-kureha-gif-9244333231924896504

WYPER TOO

[fast pagoda]

Yes Wyper!!!

He's so cool

[olive sigil]

Brook and chopper vs doc Q and Stronger

Back me up

[muted hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-onepiece-op-shipwright-galleyla-gif-6577548107241409577

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/wyper-wyper-one-piece-one-piece-skypiea-sky-island-gif-16313086313398335948

[fast pagoda]

It will be crazy seeing Skypeians and Shandians finally descend back to the Blue Sea to help Luffy in the final war

[restive wedge]

Those two are gonna be crazy hype when they show up

[glacial bear]

Mhm

[fast pagoda]

Moria and Perona are the only ones I feel more sure about

The rest could be anything tbh

[outer flax]

Why did they made chopper la voice actor a girl man

This sum bull

[grand flower]

youre not gonna believe this

[hot cairn]

in the anime it’s a woman too

[glacial bear]

Chopper’s voice actress has always been a girl lol

[fast pagoda]

You know Chopper is voiced by a girl in both Japanese and English anime right?

[outer flax]

Yea but it's doesn't sound like a girl

[grand flower]

you sure?

[outer flax]

Yea

[fast pagoda]

Doesn't change the fact he's voiced by a girl either way lmao

[outer flax]

I didn't believe luffy also had a girl va

[restive wedge]

What does a girl sound like anyways I've never seen one before

[thick mango]

Haha poor chopper can't beat the pet rap. Though I would love if stronger was secretly some kind of very serious independent threat

[stone tulip]

My pick

[outer flax]

Oh I wonder what

[glacial bear]

What if Neo M.A.D.S helps assist Cross Guild?

Cross Guild has resources & could help fund them

Thanks to Sir Crocodile criminal underground connections

[fast pagoda]

Neo Mads I can see assisting lots of people

[olive sigil]

Actually it would be Brook who would mainly fight the horse

[restive wedge]

Is the consensus that Doflamingo will not return?

[stone tulip]

I can see that too and would be good way for Weevil to get involved

[fast pagoda]

He will return for sure

I don't think he will join Cross Guild though

[glacial bear]

Neo MADS can modify the buggy balls

[fast pagoda]

He would conflict too much with everyone else

[glacial bear]

And maybe mr 3 mecha wax suit

[thick mango]

What do you imagine stronger can do? He didn't show up too much for law v bb mostly comedic relief of barely holding up bb fat ass

[fast pagoda]

I could see Law end up fighting Doflamingo again and easily defeating him

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-3-one-piece-mr-3-one-piece-galdino-galdino-one-piece-gif-9579835412582261586

[restive wedge]

He might just have to stay in the prison if he's not joining Cross Guild. He's too much of a wildcard unless BlackBeard wants him

[fast pagoda]

Also I could see Doflamingo killing off Celestial Dragons

[glacial bear]

Wapol joins cross guild maybe?

[thick mango]

I am looking forward to what other creative diseases oda might come up with for doc q

[fast pagoda]

The one disease he had was bad so

I hope the fruit improved

[thick mango]

Only if you're a hater

[fast pagoda]

It might be Oda's most sexist moment

[restive wedge]

Next disease better not be the "I'll die if I don't take off my clothes" or something

[stone tulip]

I do think he we will join cause it would be good call back to Marineford and Oda did draw them together one time, plus Oda did want these two to show up in film red too yet that didn’t happen.

[thick mango]

In what way? I don't remember it that specifically maybe there's a part I'm.forgetting

[stone tulip]

Good possibility if he ends up leaving Morgans

[fast pagoda]

The disease specifically turns them into women it doesnt just flip genders

And Law says "I feel weaker"

[fast pagoda]

I guess but right after this they started fighting each other

[glacial bear]

Weevil is definitely joining Cross Guild

[tranquil blade]

I mean it's a little funny lol, the idea that turning into a woman is a disease to Oda, but it's pretty uh in bad taste I guess if that's how it's supposed to come off

[fast pagoda]

Crocodile's goal of "utopia" doesn't seem to align to with Doflamingo's goal of seizing control of Mary Geoise

[leaden rivet]

Kuina gets proven right every arc

[thick mango]

Utopia is a propaganda name it's only utopia for croc and his allies

[fast pagoda]

I know but Crocodile and Mihawk don't want world domination

[muted hedge]

Crocodiles goal is to get a nation, which will be able to rival the World Government hence 'Utopia'

[fast pagoda]

Yes

Meanwhile Doffy wants the WG

[muted hedge]

Doflaming wants Imus throne

yeah

[hazy turret]

Gen Z is trying to what? Cancel Doc Q?

[tranquil blade]

It's really unfortunate that shonen authors consistently suck at this for the most part, there's a little more promise in some of the younger mangaka but it's still an issue even now

[formal wagon]

I

[leaden rivet]

Little 12 year old boys don’t like to see strong women

Is I think the idea behind it

[muted hedge]

unfortunately

[olive sigil]

I think back of the times Brook has been a support taking rides out. Like him cutting down Zeus while Franky took down Linlin. I think stronger with the flying around, maybe get in shape with one of doc’s meds will be able to outrun chopper and put them in danger then Brook cuts him down doing some air walk and his speed. Leading to chopper being able to finally get to doc Q. Add that with him being able to counter sickness by being dead. I think it would be a cool fight. But I do think they’ll all meet at various points of the fights but I think Brook will be the one who puts stronger down and chopper doc Q

[fast pagoda]

Then we should start punching 12 year old boys #tbh

[restive wedge]

Then you're just giving them brain damage and turning them into JJK fans

[hazy turret]

I choose to interpret that as because they were in an unfamiliar body they, they haven’t adjusted and felt weaker

[tranquil blade]

That's true

[restive wedge]

Honestly I just thought it was cause females usually have less muscle mass per body weight

[tranquil blade]

I mean like yeah but should it matter much when everyone's superhuman in one piece anyways lol?

[hazy turret]

Idk I still think because they were put into new untrained bodies that’s why they were weaker

[fast pagoda]

This exactly

Big Mom is like more physically powerful than 99.99999% of all men in the OP world

And anyone can learn haki and rokushiki

[hazy turret]

Also let’s be real guys

[fast pagoda]

Or get a devil fruit

[tranquil blade]

I mean if we went by muscle mass Harald should be objectively stronger than someone like Rocks but he isnt, or Sanjuan Wolf should be way stronger physically than anyone else

[hazy turret]

This was an excuse for Oda to draw fem law and sell merch of fem law

[tranquil blade]

but like neither of those things are true

[thick mango]

I can see what you mean but I guess it didn't bother me I'm happy to give some leeway I'm not looking for this to be prefect on every societal issue

[fast pagoda]

This is true

[olive sigil]

Fem law merch was there before that. But man that chapter really haunts my dreams. It was the must disgusting thing I’ve ever seen

[restive wedge]

Well obviously we don't compare muscle mass cause Haki/ training / weird genes but it does still make a difference in the One Piece world, it's just hard to write it to make sense when it's this whimsical and non-realistic

[olive sigil]

I have only fat

[hazy turret]

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/luffy-and-loki-luffy-gear-5-loki-one-piece-luffy-one-piece-gif-12298915513185338849

[hazy turret]

Like I said, they were put into bodies that didn’t have all their muscle memory, experience, and training making it harder to be able to do the things they would normally be able to. I think that’s the kindest way to take it

[golden valley]

Never post something like that again

[hazy turret]

Nice ai slop

[formal wagon]

😭 bro luffy's long ass freak legs

[restive wedge]

Man I wish we could see Loki's fruit already

please be a logia

[prisma idol]

Its all they post now🥀

Ai slop consuming animanga

[muted hedge]

embarrassing

the ai can't even get his hair and helmet right

[shadow knoll]

im not sure that's the porblem

[leaden rivet]

This is a bit silly

They’re weaker because women are weak and men are strong. Unless you have something special going on with you like Yamato and Big mom you’re cooked.

Being a woman in shonen is like being a man in a lesbian story.

[muted hedge]

misogny in its prime

[light hamlet]

[muted hedge]

who are the strongest females right now

Boa and Gunko come to my mind

Catarina Devon, sure, though we've not seen her do anything

[sage temple]

Yamato probably top 1

[prisma idol]

If anything of the HK women are still alive

[tranquil blade]

lol

[muted hedge]

sure, depending on how you view them

[prisma idol]

So maffey, gun girl and blonde girl

[leaden rivet]

Though really, it’s a bit crazy cause I’ll be reading a Yuri manga and then 70% through I’ll realize I haven’t seen a single man the entire story. Quite crazy.

[sage temple]

Yeah like most op characters

[muted hedge]

strange that we've not seen them

[tranquil blade]

I think blonde girl was the one people were trying to hype

[prisma idol]

She was because she has a lance

But we saw nothing of her yet

[muted hedge]

i mean specifically in Yamatos case, since the gender debacle which plagued Wano act 3

[sage temple]

Oh that

[tranquil blade]

Oh well I remember a certain someone saying she was admiral level and a Robin opponent

[sage temple]

I thought you meant like how you view their strength

[tranquil blade]

Though that was one person

[sage temple]

🤦‍♂️

[muted hedge]

no, lol

[prisma idol]

Maffey will show off later trust

Since she is still alive

[muted hedge]

people make their headcanons too fast

[tranquil blade]

I wanna read a yuri manga at some point but at the same time I haven't really read much of any romance manga

[muted hedge]

'this character is sure to be at least emperor level'

turns out to be subpar

[leaden rivet]

Romance is the worse manga genre so you made a good choice

[tranquil blade]

This person in question is a mod btw

[muted hedge]

oh

[prisma idol]

FALSEEEEEE

[muted hedge]

i don't see how that makes a difference, but sure

[leaden rivet]

There are mods that rage bait consistently on staff, there’s no standards to those roles

If you pretend to be relatively normal and you’re active you can be a mod

[tranquil blade]

I mean I dont think it was ragebait I think it was just a big robin fan in that case

[prisma idol]

Arsal?

[tranquil blade]

uhhhhhhhhh

[leaden rivet]

Im just saying there’s no standards to it, is it Arsal

[tranquil blade]

well theres a possibility it was

[prisma idol]

If its Arsal the admiral level comment was a joke

[leaden rivet]

Arsal also thinks there will be 5+ strawhats with conquerors

So they’re just quite unique in their takes

[prisma idol]

Arsal just loves Robin so as a fan they will hype them

[leaden rivet]

Even the like legendary ones, are just incredibly mid

[prisma idol]

Its nothing to different from what others here do

[leaden rivet]

I tried

[leaden rivet]

I am very reasonable even if it’s a character I love

[prisma idol]

You have to find the ones that match your flow, but I always read slop so I tend to enjoy anything

[muted hedge]

i don't see mods, helpers in any different light than i do normal users at this point

[tranquil blade]

The worst romance I had ever seen was this side romance in a boxing manga I had read when I was like 14, took 1000 chapters for anything to happen

[sage temple]

Half the mods have false opinions

[prisma idol]

I mean they are normal users, they just prevent anything absolutely heinous from happening. They are chill

But I have a bias is what people will tell you

[muted hedge]

yeah they have more of a duty, as silly as that sounds

[hazy turret]

Stop projecting

[muted hedge]

though some keep it up and some don't

[tranquil blade]

They're okay I guess, some staff are more strict than others and they used to be much more strict

[muted hedge]

honestly, i think i prefer a more strict staff

[leaden rivet]

chill

Yeah sure

[sage temple]

Forgot you were a mod

[muted hedge]

compared to staffs who just play around

[sage temple]

Me too I fw Red

[prisma idol]

Thats comes naturally have people have different levels of tolerance, which is why there is more than one

[muted hedge]

but of course there should be a middle ground

[leaden rivet]

Okay. I won’t do it again.

[sage temple]

Red and his mighty arm and iron fist

[leaden rivet]

Zip his pants up when you’re done.

[prisma idol]

Red is cool

[sage temple]

There's a reason he's an admin

[leaden rivet]

I didn’t say anything about Red.

[prisma idol]

Rokaya what did you think of the last chapter?

[thick mango]

The movie not going well was a let down I was hoping for a movie announcement

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-gif-27532263

[hazy turret]

Can I be honest?

[thick mango]

No positive vibes only

[hazy turret]

I haven’t read it yet

[prisma idol]

Spit whatever it is

[prisma idol]

Want to hear something as well?

[tranquil blade]

[prisma idol]

I haven't either

[muted hedge]

for sure

it was the thing i was most excited about

[hazy turret]

[leaden rivet]

Glazing red will not save you from getting banned

Your timer is running out

[tranquil blade]

No one actually reads the manga in this server they just ragebait each other

[hazy turret]

I have an excuse this time

I’m incredibly sick

[sage temple]

I'm gone by the end of the year now?

[prisma idol]

Smh just dont be sick

[leaden rivet]

If I say I haven’t read it either and I only know what happened because of the leaks will you guys judge me

[hazy turret]

I haven’t discussed anything about the new chapter

[tranquil blade]

Are you resting at least

[sage temple]

!vent

[tropic nova]

DON'T VENT YOUR ISSUES HERE

[tranquil blade]

It wasnt directed at you specifically

[leaden rivet]

Im not sure but you definitely will be gone by January. Of that I’m sure.

[hazy turret]

Yes I’ve been sleeping a lot

[sage temple]

Don't answer that Rokaya

Or I'll use it again

[hazy turret]

LIKE ZORO HAHAHAH

[thick mango]

It's true being sick represents a weak character and lack of discipline

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/whiplash-movie-stare-meme-jgmm-ragebait-gif-10607227570464337469

[proud pivot]

i think i am gonna take a short break from onepiece, havent read the last two chapters and i dont feel like reading them

[frozen ravine]

I can't believe there are sick people here 😬

[hazy turret]

don’t get too close or you’ll catch it too

[prisma idol]

All the power to you

[leaden rivet]

Honestly been thinking about dropping for a while

[prisma idol]

Better to take a break if you arent feeling it rn

[vital heart]

Hey guys

What's goin on

[sage temple]

I've gotten more in trouble for trying to get mods to punish Meek than actually breaking the rules

[prisma idol]

We are quiting one piece and becoming a JJK server

[leaden rivet]

I don’t really like any of the characters in the flashback. I’m not that interested in what’s going on. And Shanks.

[vital heart]

@stone tulip Hey guys

[sage temple]

Aw

[vital heart]

@hazy turret Hey!

[leaden rivet]

You were trying to do what?

[vital heart]

@frail kindle @vestal mural Yoyoyoo

[prisma idol]

Meek stop

[leaden rivet]

Get the mods? To punish? Meek?!

[tranquil blade]

I dont like Shanks but idk if I can drop the series because of sunk cost and all that

[thick mango]

Ping terrorism

[sage temple]

Yes, I know, herculean task

[vestal mural]

Sup meek

[sage temple]

I have made it my objective in my server to do so

[leaden rivet]

Whats wrong with you

[stone tulip]

Yo, how the translation going ?

[vital heart]

Havent started.

[prisma idol]

How do you plan to do that

[vital heart]

Can you resend me them all in DMs. I'll do it rn @stone tulip

[stone tulip]

Okay hold on

[sage temple]

Become a mod and do it myself

[hazy turret]

Socrates the same way you complain about meek others have complained about you so idk what your thing is

[prisma idol]

[leaden rivet]

Yes Rokaya

Ban him

[sage temple]

I just haven't been breaking rules and he has

[leaden rivet]

Please

[sage temple]

That's the difference

[hazy turret]

Others would disagree lol

[dense snow]

[prisma idol]

HEY ROOM

[leaden rivet]

Yeah people complain about you the most of everyone here

[prisma idol]

https://tenor.com/view/waving-emoji-yellow-waving-emoji-fast-waving-yellow-emoji-gif-2616820770356227063

[dense snow]

heyaaa

[leaden rivet]

Many would love to see you gone

[sage temple]

What rule exactly

https://tenor.com/view/i-can't-help-but-be-defensive-vince-mcmahon-mr-mcmahon-i'm-a-defensive-person-wwe-gif-3802199567826207962

[thick mango]

Don't ban Socrates yet ima win a bet soon

[wraith mantle]

he just had a fresh hairdo

[prisma idol]

Rokaya make me mod real quick so I can fix the schedule in spoiler news real quick, its out of date

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/holding-a-basketball-michael-jordan-mj-jordan-chicago-bulls-gif-16999943

[leaden rivet]

According to recent developments, he wouldn’t honor the bet anyway

Speaking of bet

Rokaya!

I have a bet, that you will participate in

[hazy turret]

Idk if I can give mod but helper should be fine I think?

[frail kindle]

what the fuck do you want

[prisma idol]

Yeah

[hazy turret]

Okie :p

[stone tulip]

Speaking of bets you all should make the Shanks and Shamrock debate on which one who talked to Gorosei into actual bet lmao

[thick mango]

That has a high risk of never being revealed imo

[sage temple]

What developments? Nobody explained to me why I lost the bet that first time until recently so I was completely in the mindset that it was wrongful

[muted hedge]

Oda has made it obvious already

[leaden rivet]

Are you in school

[ruby moat]

hell yea

[leaden rivet]

Yeah aight

[thick mango]

There's not really any ambiguity in loki getting reversi'd

[prisma idol]

Let me know if that seems right with the current schedule real quick

[sage temple]

Idk what to tell ya

[hazy turret]

Looks right to me

[sage temple]

True it isn't really comparable to my previous bet at all

[leaden rivet]

Ok let’s make a bet

[prisma idol]

Nice now I feel better about that

[sage temple]

BLUKO OUT OF RETIREMENT?

https://tenor.com/view/drake-ateez-woosanfleur-reactions-drake-screaming-gif-23885772

[leaden rivet]

If you get banned by the end of January I win

If you don’t get banned by the end of January you win

Im rather confident this time

[hazy turret]

Soooooo

[leaden rivet]

Hyping up Bluko is not going to save you

[sage temple]

Win what

[leaden rivet]

Not rokaya ignoring my question

[sage temple]

[leaden rivet]

Satisfaction

[tranquil blade]

So Rokaya when do helper apps open

[hazy turret]

ONE SECOND

[tranquil blade]

If ever

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

[leaden rivet]

But I suppose if you win 3 week name change

[prisma idol]

Yes?

[leaden rivet]

Are you applying Avery

[sage temple]

So if you win I get banned but if I win you get a 3 week name change

[leaden rivet]

Yes

[sage temple]

This is equality

[tranquil blade]

I'm really thinking I might

[hazy turret]

I will forward this to rob (self proclaimed bets guy)

[sage temple]

I'll think on it

[glacial bear]

What do helpers do

[hazy turret]

Yes

[vital heart]

Meek is going to translate the OP mini magazine.

Stay tuned

I'll post translations of each page as I make progress

[sage temple]

If I don't get back to you that means I decline

[glacial bear]

Like what’s the difference between a moderator & a helper?

[leaden rivet]

They warn without context from the outside

[stone tulip]

He did but people are still in denial for that lol

[prisma idol]

I feel like I missed something

[hazy turret]

Idk when tbh just keep an eye out

[prisma idol]

Whats the minimum magazine

[muted hedge]

like everything

[leaden rivet]

Okay nvm

[prisma idol]

Mini

[tranquil blade]

They do mutes and warns, just moderate the chat so they dont do some crazy shit or say awful things I guess

[tranquil blade]

Mods can ban helpers cant

[formal wagon]

wait no i thought of a good server bet the other day

[glacial bear]

Oh, I see.

[stone tulip]

Good 👍

[leaden rivet]

There is no downside for you

[stone tulip]

W Meek

[formal wagon]

oh the chekov's second giant sword

[sage temple]

Yeah I'll think on it

[glacial bear]

Hope you get the position if you do apply @tranquil blade

[tranquil blade]

Your January nickname

[tranquil blade]

Thank you :)

[formal wagon]

oh yeah

[hazy turret]

Bluko your DMs are closed

[leaden rivet]

Until they make you start talking in anime

[prisma idol]

Oh let me do this then

[tranquil blade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/850784215774789655/1448773333251391689/IMG_0459.gif

[sage temple]

Yeah kaya open the apps for me rq

[dense haven]

yall ready for one piece to end?

[tranquil blade]

Actually anime channel cant be worse than manga so its fine

[sage temple]

AIIJOC's fate

[leaden rivet]

Anywho, yeah I do think I should drop for a while, maybe until end of January so I can see Socrates get banned. One piece isn’t hitting like it was in Wano anymore.

[shadow knoll]

im not sure one piece likes to hit people...

[sage temple]

I won't allow myself to get banned until Meek does

[tranquil blade]

Bye Illya :(

[celest mauve]

hard to stay that invested when the straw hats haven't been around for months now

[leaden rivet]

Meek won’t ever get banned, but for you,

[shadow knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-cute-kitty-sleepy-kitten-sleepy-cat-goodmorningkay1-gif-1313677591443335660

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/view/tuff-ai-baby-speaking-tuff-baby-niche-niche-baby-baby-ai-gif-16372307054709064847

[celest mauve]

last time we saw the straw hats was in june

[prisma idol]

I miss luffy...

[dense haven]

good

heres to one more year

[prisma idol]

Spice HATES One Piece

[celest mauve]

this'll read far better on a binge, but I'm so fucking bored of harald, loki and all this past stuff

like please let's get back to luffy and loki teaming up to fight imu in the present

and hajrudin ig, participation medal for him

[shadow knoll]

imu bouta one hit KO them

[sage temple]

Hajrudin's involvement this arc is gonna be so weird bro

Oda makes him fight Imu after he was 1 shot by Gear 2 Luffy literally months ago

🤦‍♂️

Ussop needs this buff more than him

[shadow knoll]

Hajruddin is like that one good guy in your school who says, "Sir, you forgot to check our homework."

[celest mauve]

"powerscaling is useless" mfs when things need to actually make sense in a story so focused on combat as well as adventure

[shadow knoll]

still waiting for crocodile to use haki

[prisma idol]

He will show off

Trust

[sage temple]

Genuinely, I don't hate Hajrudin at all but it feels kinda un-natural when someone like Hajrudin gets a buff like this after doing almost nothing and Ussop stays virtually the exact same since Timeskip after going against Gorosei and Ulti

[shadow knoll]

who is the character in your pfp

[prisma idol]

Maya fey

[celest mauve]

it's part of the larger issue of oda just refusing to make any of the giants actually impressive besides loki and his dad who's long-dead

[sage temple]

Ussop after seeing the man who called him god take away all his potential

[celest mauve]

keeps telling us about how they're the greatest military might when their heir to the throne is a dressrosa G2 luffy victim

[shadow knoll]

never heard of her

[blazing depot]

A real man does not disrespect Hajurdin, one of God Usopp’s most loved prophets

[celest mauve]

oda already disrespected him

[blazing depot]

Think of the narrative lore

[sage temple]

Yeah I do feel like this could be because the giants just don't have enough showtime but the only giants that have any promise right now are:

Loki Dorry Brogy Saul and the rest of Dorry&Brogy's crew

[shadow knoll]

why was hajruddin in dressrosa again?

[sage temple]

To get the Mera Mera fruit

[blazing depot]

We did not know he was the Elbaph king’s bastard son until this arc

[shadow knoll]

can't do anything without fruit powers

[celest mauve]

man even in this arc, fully grown adult hajrudin was left bleeding with teeth missing after bouncing off of luffy while his brother survived a much worse fall and killed huge animals as a baby 😭

[sage temple]

Realistically Hajrudin wouldn't have even won if Luffy wasn't there so it's not like Luffy stopped him

Don Chinjao, Sabo, and a few others that might be contravertial could've won against him

[blazing depot]

On everyone’s souls Don Chinjao would’ve swept

[shadow knoll]

the dude who powers up for a single punch was also there

[sage temple]

Oh yeah he'd kill Hajrudin lmao

[trim lily]

his famously yonko tier punch

[sage temple]

Logically Hajrudin never had a chance lmao

[shadow knoll]

the fight with imu depends on what loki's df power is

[sage temple]

True can't wait

[sage temple]

Brogy mighty arm vs Yonko tier punch

https://tenor.com/view/luffy-vs-lucci-one-piece-luffy-lucci-monkey-d-luffy-gif-1057018533276692615

[prisma idol]

Guys could elizebelo with prep time beat rocks?

[glacial bear]

Hmmmm 🤔

[celest mauve]

he'd make roger and garp look like bums

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-elizabello-one-piece-elisabello-one-piece-king-punch-one-piece-pica-one-piece-gif-24812110

Look at all that acoc

[sage temple]

Possibly on the level of that Linlin/Kaido combined attack

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-hakai-kaido-big-mom-conquest-of-the-sea-zoro-hakai-hakai-one-piece-gif-26231804

I see no difference

[shadow knoll]

man i wish Oda didn't slander the hypnosis devil fruit and give it to a dumb marine

that fruit had so much potential

[glacial bear]

Jango?

[shadow knoll]

yes

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-jango-jango-one-piece-michael-jackson-hypnotize-gif-14579297118147724533

Ohhh

[trim lily]

i see no reason he couldn’t

rocks is just a guy at the end of the day

[shadow knoll]

the michael jackson inspiration goes hard though

[glacial bear]

Trueee

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/view/jango-one-piece-dance-anime-cool-gif-16871322

[prisma idol]

He just happens to swing his sword strong

[shadow knoll]

im praying that zoro finally will be able to use conqueror's haki in elbaf fight

[shadow knoll]

okay that's going too far

[prisma idol]

Isnt it boring how all the Old gen top tiers were just people who swung things hard. Garp with his fist and Roger and Rocks with their swords

The Yonko at least were interesting and Shanks is shanks

[shadow knoll]

it's cuz of their haki...

[prisma idol]

Haki is boring

[shadow knoll]

yeah, i agree with that take a lot, but Rocks had a good character development

[fast pagoda]

Steam haki

[shadow knoll]

unlike Roger and Newgate

[trim lily]

amazing how rocks had the most boring power out of his whole crew

[shadow knoll]

so did roger

[trim lily]

well none of his crew had gimmicks either

boring ol group of guys

[fast pagoda]

I'm fine with acoc but it bothers me almost all the top top tiers only have that

[shadow knoll]

I have always wondered why Oda gave Haki a higher respect than df powers, but made Luffy fruit so strong

like even lucci's df power got downscaled

[proud pivot]

luffy is the mc

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/whiplash-movie-stare-meme-jgmm-ragebait-gif-10607227570464337469

No funni factor

[fast pagoda]

Im ngl the Roger pirates are kinda boring

Except BUGGY ofc

[shadow knoll]

rayleigh and oden were kinda tuff

[trim lily]

considering how legendary they are we sure haven’t actually seen them that much

[muted basin]

Oda needs to hurry up and reveal Kaido and Harald are related somehow

[fast pagoda]

And I dont get why there are so many Roger pirates when only like 7 of them have names and screentime

[prisma idol]

Crazy how the two most interesting people on rocks crew were Big Mom and Gil baster of all people

[trim lily]

i do love MAX marx though

glad we found out he’s the chef

[fast pagoda]

True

I like the bat guy

And Sunbell

[trim lily]

i can’t support this needless gil bastar gassing up

[prisma idol]

Oh and I guess barbell if we ever find out what his name is

[blazing depot]

I liked Shiki just being an asshole

[fast pagoda]

We were robbed of Sunbell vs Barbel

[prisma idol]

He has perona's fruit which is inherently interesting

Because it ties in with his one shot

[trim lily]

we never found out what was up with silver axe

[fast pagoda]

Gil bastar was a cameo

[sage temple]

Me too I fw Shiki heavy

[blazing depot]

Not even a traitor he tries to teamkill for fun

[trim lily]

why did he suddenly grow in size that one time

[fast pagoda]

I hate Oda for that

[prisma idol]

Oda gassed him up and did nothing

😭

[muted basin]

What was the name of that girl in wano that ate a smile fruit

[fast pagoda]

Silver Axe is the coolest guy ever and he didnt do anything

[fast pagoda]

Toko

[prisma idol]

Also the last week see of Wang Zhi is him having a scar

Horrendous typo

[muted basin]

one sec ima show u something

[trim lily]

that was a bad typo

[blazing depot]

Honestly Silver Axe has the potential to become this

[blazing depot]

https://tenor.com/view/tien-awesome-fkin-tien-shinhan-cool-tien-edit-gif-7171693473668315713

[trim lily]

i honestly loved most of the rocks pirates except for the namesake himself

[prisma idol]

I should just leave the server for that

[fast pagoda]

I do like Wang Zhi design

I will say I dislike Barbells colors

[prisma idol]

Marlon.... how we never saw you do anything but you still died

[fast pagoda]

Would be better with dark skin like an actual catfish

[blazing depot]

In this house Don Marlon is a hero end of story!

[trim lily]

poor don marlon

[blazing depot]

He died for our sins

[fast pagoda]

Why was don marlon even included

[prisma idol]

He was part of the main crew

[fast pagoda]

Other than a random Bege reference

[trim lily]

i bet he had a family waiting for him

[blazing depot]

His design goes hard as fuck

[prisma idol]

I think Gil just happened to be on Hachinosu

[blazing depot]

https://tenor.com/view/the-god-father-marlon-brando-vito-corleone-talk-to-me-gif-4462663

[fast pagoda]

I do really like John

[muted basin]

I came across this and then remembered the Moria and Wano connection

[fast pagoda]

Ganzui was meh

[trim lily]

i liked ganzui

he was fun with a great design

[fast pagoda]

I dont get why Ganzui wasn't on the spread in chapter 1160

[shadow knoll]

Roger: "I am gonna die soon."

Rayleigh: (drinks sake) "What am I supposed to do?"

[blazing depot]

I wouldn’t count on it. In the black and white manga Perona’s hair is white but Toko’s is black

[trim lily]

gloriosa really deserved better

[prisma idol]

So trueeeeee

[muted basin]

ngl, the fact that rayleigh didnt show up to save Ace is still inexcusable, especially since he knew Ace was rogers son