also-manga

[vale heath]

Helluva-Beth

[craggy vapor]

he has a punchable face, doesn’t he?

[wraith mantle]

imu a freak

[sage temple]

Ngl now that I think about it

[wraith mantle]

shanks said it too

[sage temple]

Loki could kill Garling

Since he can bypass regen

[vale heath]

He was telling the truth the whole time…

[pine scaffold]

I'm gonna tell u this rn

if Loki did most of the work against Harald

hes low diffing Garling

[vale heath]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-anime-nami-wake-up-sleep-time-gif-16584687

[sage temple]

Yeah and that seems like the most likely thing

"My own power" sealed the deal imo

[pine scaffold]

tbf Garling is a punching bag lol

😭

the top tiers bully him badly

[sage temple]

Yeah which is why Loki could kill him

[pine scaffold]

thats what im saying

[dense rapids]

All this new info and Socrates still talking about Loki

https://tenor.com/view/stressed-gif-7048057395502071840

[pine scaffold]

I dunno where Garling scales ngl

[final trench]

MMBF pendingggg

[pine scaffold]

is he an admiral lvl fighter

[vale heath]

He was only a central character…

[pine scaffold]

or below

[golden valley]

Rough Translation, but the Sanji pages gives him respect

“He is a first-rate chef who supports the Straw Hat crew’s stomachs, and a combatant who fights gracefully with kicking techniques. Though his bounty falls short of Zoro’s, his actual strength is on par with him, making him worthy of being called one of the two wings.”

[dense rapids]

Blud not even a conqueror hang it up

[sage temple]

It's almost like he's the focus of this most recent chapter

[final trench]

Soon

[vale heath]

You’re telling me the guys that are portrayed as roughly equal are indeed roughly equal????

[dense rapids]

Is he one now?

[final trench]

Soon

[low copper]

I'm just as shocked as you are

[golden valley]

NoNo, the zoro fans said he low diffs sanji!!!

[grand flower]

yeah nigga

[final trench]

SHs gonna have 4 conquerors

Maybe 5

[grand flower]

YEAH NIGGA

[grand flower]

Luffy, Zoro, Sanji and Usopp for sure

[final trench]

Bingo

[low copper]

Whoa, Sanji being the third in line makes him as strong as Zoro, who could have thought

[final trench]

Glad i aint have to specify

If oda’s a troll he might give it to nami aswell

[grand flower]

I can see the east blue five ending up with it

it'd be a sign of how real luffy is

four supreme kings all willing to follow him

[final trench]

Jinbei had a line about her having it, or questioning if she had it

[sage temple]

Idk how to scale regen ngl

Any top tier can ring-out him though

[grand flower]

that turning out to be foreshadowing is oda's sense of humor fr

[dense rapids]

Also Ju Peter being a sand worm makes sense now with the red desert surround the holy land

[final trench]

Ju peter lead the charge against the lunarians 😞

He must pay

[pine scaffold]

u think admirals can?

like Kizaru etc

[sage temple]

Yes

[low copper]

That bit after Wano is funny because you can't tell if Oda was bullshitting or he was just casually dropping why Nami can still do a lot of damage to Luffy

[sage temple]

Not his current version

He's a Gorosei meaning Yokai powers

[pine scaffold]

talking abt HK Garling

not gorosei

[final trench]

Also me personally i look at rogers and rocks pirates as THE top pirates and overall they had 4-5 conquerors

[sage temple]

Yeah Admirals def can

[pine scaffold]

ngl I think Shamrock is overrated

[cunning narwhal]

Where is this from

[final trench]

Rocks
Whitebeard
Kaido
Big mom

Roger
Gaban
Rayleigh
Shanks albeit he was a kid for majority
Oden was temporary

[grand flower]

yeah exactly luffy having a bunch of supreme king's under his flag would be a good way of showing him surpassing them.

[pine scaffold]

I bet hes only slightly stronger than HK Garling but weaker than Gorosei Garling

[final trench]

So strawhats should have as much if not 1 more

[pine scaffold]

Cerberus is strong, but it was only used against a nerfed/weakened Loki

so its not that impressive

[final trench]

If shamrock nice with his fists, it can be

Unless bro watches his sword do everything

[pine scaffold]

HK stocks arent the best

so I do think Shamrock may be weaker than people think

[hot cairn]

where is this from?

[pine scaffold]

he def isnt Shanks lvl

there is no shot lol

[final trench]

If he knew muaylang or sum shit

I trust in shamrock because shamrock is the reason i go so hard for these theories

He started it

[final trench]

Cursed

[golden valley]

@cunning narwhal @hot cairn the mini-series magazine they just released

Also this one seems to talk about Imu fearing Joyboy’s Haki and it saying that Joyboy went on adventures like Luffy and his friends

[pine scaffold]

Shanks > Gorosei Garling > HK Shamrock > HK Garling

[golden valley]

Not particularly new crazy info

[grand flower]

cause he is luffy

[final trench]

Joyboy please have a tiger mink on your crew

Please

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-kasai-no-kingu-king-the-wildfire-king-one-piece-gif-5686607617361622438

Let king and the seraphims jump his ass

[cunning narwhal]

Is there any really big info from the magazine

[dense rapids]

Joy Boy name is Tiger

[golden valley]

“Joy Boy has been on adventures just like Luffy and his friends, and traces of him can be found in various places. He also had words for those who reach Laugh Tale.”

[final trench]

Tiger D [Redacted] ?

👀

Or [Redacted] D Tiger

[dense rapids]

Tony D. Tiger

[final trench]

[hot cairn]

oh nice

https://x.com/newworldartur/status/2002740669530697808?s=20

Artur - Library of Ohara (@newworldartur)

Eiichiro Oda's full message at Jump Festa 2026! #OnePiece

X · Dec 21, 2025, 1:59 PM

this translation makes me think he’s talking about lodestar

[distant vine]

https://youtu.be/FarxAKAVy6c?si=_e8Hjs2fGV-ecrsA

Im intrigued. Watching

[hot cairn]

that channel is underrated

[final trench]

Possibly

That new episode with luffy getting a summoning circle in his eye may be the key

[hot cairn]

@ashen perch @grand flower

[final trench]

After luffys fight with gunkmu he’ll have a better understanding of his powers

[distant vine]

He's getting on my good side

[hot cairn]

the video under that is my same idea with Loki

[final trench]

A OPtuber worthy of watching? I might consider

But yea either nika’s locked inside here

Or luffy can use this to sorta find a way to lodestar

[stone tulip]

Zoro fans are gonna have meltdown over this and Sanji fans are gonna be so annoying about this lmao

[scenic dirge]

Yooooooooo

That’s actually so hype

[distant vine]

Wrong.

Loud incorrect buzzer

[stone tulip]

Now everything makes sense

[distant vine]

https://tenor.com/view/ema-skye-ace-attorney-apollo-justice-eating-ignoring-gif-16655002

[scenic dirge]

Real sand worm dune battle

[stone tulip]

Also this might be about Vivi in the bottom

[scenic dirge]

Don’t even care who the opponent(s) are

[final trench]

The lunarians

Or maybe the strawhats up there

[stone tulip]

@golden valley can you speak Japanese ?

[grand flower]

I feel like this another one of them mountains out of mole hill things

OP has never showcased full fights in flashbacks

that's always saved for the present of the arc

[distant vine]

He mentioned that yeah

[grand flower]

Clashes before the real final battle is also just what OP regularly does

[distant vine]

God Valley is kinda different though

I can understand people being sad about it

[scenic dirge]

Wait did it actually say something about Ju Peter leading the Lunarian extermination?

[final trench]

Nah i just believe ju peter most likely lead the charge against them

[scenic dirge]

Oh lol

[final trench]

Since the lunarians used to live there

[vital heart]

Later tonight. I got you

[celest mauve]

@prisma idol saw this on twitter

[prisma idol]

Oh they finally got to that scene lmfaooooooo

[distant vine]

Ass out two arcs in a row is crazy...

She had to walk in the cold too 😭

[distant vine]

I liked the video. His head is on straight

I think stuff like Heart Pirates vs Blackbeard Pirates and Gunko vs SH's show that Oda still has it in him sometimes

[grand flower]

Yeah i understand wanting Me valley to be different and showcase full fights I wanted it too

I'm not surprised tho

[frozen aspen]

God valley was ne er gonna be full fights

With all these big characters being involved it would take way too many chapters to draw fleshed out fights

[golden valley]

Got someone who does somewhat. The D Line says

“The surprising similarities between Luffy and Vivi, and what happens to Vivi as she is pursued by the government!”

The middle section seems to talk about Nefertari Lily being the only one that didn’t become a celestial dragon and the last bit says something along the lines of:

“What is the meaning of the “mark” printed in the newspaper?!

“Proof that Princess Vivi and Luffy and the others once adventured together the “mark of comrades” is clearly imprinted on Luffy’s arm in the newspaper photo, giving off the scent of someone’s deliberate intention.”

[dense rapids]

Elbaph ends and Loki tells Luffy shanks is on Lodestar

[grand flower]

I thought Rocks vs Roger and Garp may have been a chapteer longer

[stone tulip]

So you guys are gonna translate it then ? Cool and if you are done please ping me

[thick mango]

Isn't it possible that loki is just lying

[stone tulip]

So they deadass confirmed the newspaper was done by Vivi let’s gooooooooo

[runic dock]

Oda’s jump festa message is crazy

[dense rapids]

doubt it

he met with shanks

[thick mango]

Why would he even know shanks location being chained to a tree

[runic dock]

Vivi reunion soon

[stone tulip]

Ended up being very blunt compared to last year

[runic dock]

The island that only PK visited is laugh tale right? Or possible lodestar too?

[stone tulip]

I deadass hope that’s what Oda meant by “two characters come face to face”

[runic dock]

Just it being a year of encounters (another translation was reunions) is enough for me to believe vivi soon

[mighty shell]

wait he just straight up said the new movie isn't going well LOL

[strong wadi]

Itll just be Luffy and Imu and Imunko counts 😭

[vale heath]

“Two characters come face to face” has been true for literally all 1169 chapters.

[stone tulip]

I think it could be Lodestar too cause it’s the only other island that mentioned it never been visited by anyone else before Roger pirates, plus I think that’s where they meet man marked by flames cause that’s where Roger found out about poneglphys

[trim lily]

i still don’t believe only roger has been able to reach lodestar

[runic dock]

That makes more sense , lodestar is the last “official island” on the grand line and even that wasn’t visited ever

[trim lily]

that’s so dumb

[glacial bear]

COOK

[strong wadi]

I doubt it’s lodestar. If Roger is the only pirate to ever reach it in the current time, then honestly, every pirate crew ever is just an L

[formal wagon]

vira bros we won

[scenic dirge]

Getting baited by Oda’s troll jump festa messages in 2025 🥹

[runic dock]

Others could have without making it news sure

Secret visits

[trim lily]

this got said in zou iirc

[urban lodge]

We know no one reached lodestar either besides Roger

[stone tulip]

I do hope that’s the case and Oda better stylize her hair like that with ponytail like this concept art.

Although one of possible encounters could also be Mosa and Loki, heck it could be Imu related too.

[trim lily]

anybody who makes it through the grand line should be able to reach lodestar but oda is a hack

[formal wagon]

Guys is mosa shirahoshi

[trim lily]

perhaps

[formal wagon]

guys is harald maybe loki AND hajrudins dad 🤔

[runic dock]

I mean you’d be arguing with what was plainly stated as fact in the manga texts but secret visits are possible , eitherway it’s suggesting lodestar just as much as laugh tale

[strong wadi]

Give panel

[scenic dirge]

Lodestar is a bit of a weird place conceptually for sure. I think there’s definitely more to it tho. Like something unique about it because logically it doesn’t really make sense why more people haven’t been

[stone tulip]

That’s true and all but I mean in beginning of the arc Oda did set up potential encounters that is important that would end us happening in this arc

[runic dock]

Pink already posted it

[strong wadi]

That doesn’t show what yall said lmao

[runic dock]

“Where no one had reached before”

lmao bro

[glacial bear]

What if Bluff Island is Lodestar

[stone tulip]

Yeah it’s weird only Roger went there before so clearly something is up with that island too

[vale heath]

Also true for literally ever arc

[strong wadi]

That doesn’t mean BM, Kaido, shanks, etc haven’t reached it in the past 30 years

That specific panel doesn’t, at least

[stone tulip]

Oda messages had been accurate, what isn’t is the shitty timing he has lmao

[trim lily]

i think it was garfield who said it

[runic dock]

That would have to be a new revelation , the story so far is telling is it’s the island only Roger visited up to this point in the story

[trim lily]

but it’d also be weird if literally only the last 30 years people could reach it

[vale heath]

It’s very easy to be accurate if you just never use a specific noun

[trim lily]

what happened to the other 770

[stone tulip]

I guess but that seems far more important I suppose

[strong wadi]

Not really

[vale heath]

“Tomorrow those people will meet”

Omg Mimzee so accurate

[strong wadi]

I thought it was common sense people had already been to lodestar after Roger made it there

[runic dock]

Nothing has suggested otherwise I think , you could show me a panel if you want

[runic dock]

That’s just your assumption I guess

[strong wadi]

But I guess I thought wrong

[stone tulip]

Doesn’t mean it’s 100% confirmed tho to be fair cause we still don’t know what’s up with Lodestar island

[hot cairn]

this is my theory

[urban lodge]

I mean they could, but we have no reason to think anyone did

[hot cairn]

[strong wadi]

It's only emphasized roger was the first one there. There has been no emphasis that he was the ONLY one there

[hot cairn]

he already said he’s not

[urban lodge]

If anyone did it's probably Shanks

[scenic dirge]

Ok but why had no one reached there before Roger? Surely if it’s reachable by log poses then more people would still be able to reach it even if it’s a really difficult and harsh environment to trek through.

[runic dock]

If we learn later that tons of people visited after Roger did , that’s possible , but I mean up to 1169 were just led to believe it’s Roger

[grand flower]

Technically that's not true. It only tells us that only Roger reached the island up to that poibt

[red lagoon]

Regarding reaching lode star until told otherwise Roger the only confirmed person who reached

[runic dock]

Yes I stated that

Th story so far has only told us that Roger fact

Not anything after

[graceful grove]

Shanks is never fighting BB

[grand flower]

Yeah it's possible others reached it after Roger did

[red lagoon]

U can assume shanks or kaido or bm or whoever has been there but until told Roger is the only one who has been there

[grand flower]

Especially since they know about the OP now

[urban lodge]

I don't think we can assume that

[stone tulip]

Or maybe Gaban was the one who suggested straw hats to meet man marked by flames by end of the arc cause remember Gaban wanted to tell Luffy something before he leaves the island if Elbaf isn’t destroyed.

[red lagoon]

U can assume anything u want

[runic dock]

But since the story hasn’t mentioned anything about that yet , I think Oda’s Jump festa message can definitely still be talking about lodestar

[red lagoon]

Life

[grand flower]

that's true

[urban lodge]

It's a possibility, but we have no reason to think anyone did

[runic dock]

He’s using current kknowledge to gives hints

[graceful grove]

yea. Gaban can tell him who he is and where to find him

[grand flower]

we do, the fact that knowledge about the red ponegliffs has spread beyond the Roger pirates

[stone tulip]

Yeah there isn’t any confirmation about someone else going there so we shouldn’t rule out Lodestar as next arc yet

[scenic dirge]

I think it’s pretty clear that it’s a place that only the greatest pirates can reach. But Roger also only went there because he didn’t know that Laugh Tale was the true final island he needed to get to

[grand flower]

Inurashi says you learn about the red ponegliffs from Lodestar

[scenic dirge]

So maybe people like Kaido and BM just didn’t find it worth the hassle

To go to Lodestar lol

[grand flower]

Unless the Roger pirates have been telling people about the red gliffs, others had to have gone there to learn about em too for the info to spread

[urban lodge]

Yeah and it could have been a Roger pirate who spread that information

[stone tulip]

It’s most likely case scenario and would explain why straw hats would go there cause it’s the island where Roger found out about poneglphys

[grand flower]

Sure, but it could also be that other people went there after Roger said the message about the OP

[urban lodge]

I agree, but I don't think we can assume anything because of the many possibilities

[graceful grove]

they are going to Lodestar 100%. my money is on that being the location where BB v SH clash goes down

[runic dock]

Inurashi was on Roger’s crew anyway

[grand flower]

Many possibilities is why it can only be an assumption, i'd say

[hot cairn]

Lodestar Arc Soon

[stone tulip]

Considering how Roger pirates don’t like spoiling the fun doubt they would immediately spread it cause where the fun is that ?

[hot cairn]

you better believe it

[graceful grove]

with final glyph and Robin on the line

[grand flower]

You'd basically have to pick which one you're feeling because it could go either way

[stone tulip]

Maybe or even Shanks reunion, but either definitely man marked by flame is there

[grand flower]

Yeah I think they'd leave it up to adventure like it was for them

Rayleigh approved of Luffy but didn't tell him about the Gliffs after all

[leaden rivet]

Retired mod staff?

[stone tulip]

Yeah so it makes sense that nobody knew about Lodestar or even go there

[urban lodge]

There's like 30 of them, it's very possible not all of them share that mindset

[stone tulip]

Plus if people knew about poneglphys then one piece would have been found by now

[runic dock]

He could have , but luffy stopped possibilities of that when he shut Usopp up

[stone tulip]

But clearly it didn’t cause Roger pirates were withholding stuff

[graceful grove]

island Oda mentioned gotta be LT right?

[urban lodge]

Maybe some of them are trying to rush things and guiding people to find the one piece

[grand flower]

That's different from telling them there's a map to the final island

[runic dock]

Let’s say Usopp wasn’t stopped , Rayleigh could have went on to give hints and also talk about glyphs

[stone tulip]

If Luffy didn’t stop him Rayleigh would have said the same thing to Robin too so the answer would be similar towards one piece treasure too

[grand flower]

Rayleigh could have still told them about the gliffs

Luffy stopped him from talking about the OP directly

Telling them about the red gliffs wouldn't have infringed on Luffy's boundary at all

[runic dock]

Maybe that gave Rayleigh a hint to read the room

Don’t say anything else

[grand flower]

Nah

We know that's not it because Luffy readily accepted being told about the red gliffs

[runic dock]

Ok true

lol

[grand flower]

There's a big difference between Rayleigh spoiling the OP itself, and being told "this is how to find laugh tale"

Because the adventure is still there,

[glacial bear]

Imagine Rayleigh did tell everything and Luffy quits the adventure. The world would be doomed lol

[restive wedge]

Buggy would just have more work to do

[dense haven]

yall happy laugh tale is the next arc

[runic dock]

“What?…it’s just that?…fuck this”

[runic dock]

Yeah lodestar should be a fun pitstop

[dense haven]

fuck lamestar man

[distant vine]

The Child of Destiny would take over

[dense haven]

op is ending

[runic dock]

It’s been ending that don’t mean rush

[dense haven]

oda is clearly rushing tho

post wano oda is different

[leaden rivet]

I don’t think we want Blackbeard taking over

[runic dock]

He’s not rushing he’s taking 50 breaks

[strong wadi]

If we assume lodestar is this hard to get to place, I imagine it wont be a fighting arc unless they all just 1v10 burnscar man or let luffy 1v1 or whatever. If only Roger has been there before, it would be extremely convenient if multiple pirate crews would be able to get there at the same time

[dense haven]

because hes tired of this shit

so hes rushing

[red lagoon]

He not rushing

[dense haven]

bruh

[red lagoon]

Are we forgetting vegapunk speech and goon piece

[leaden rivet]

Spice what are you talking about

He wasted like 10 chapters on rocks instead of getting with it

[runic dock]

It ca be the next arc without needing to be an island that only Roger visited , due to later revelations being possible

[strong wadi]

Oda is rushing yet turned Egghead into like a 70 chapter arc when it coulda been 20 🧘‍♂️

[red lagoon]

I’m saying😭😭😭

[dense haven]

the manga pace has never been this fast since we left wano

[leaden rivet]

This is the second longest flashback in the series

[grand flower]

idk why yall entertain spice

[red lagoon]

Nigga gave us whole chapters of goon piece

[urban lodge]

It's the longest now

Already surpassed Oden

[runic dock]

He’s 90% trolling but sometimes it’s fun to entertain it

[frozen aspen]

true

[dense haven]

this is also the second most important flashback in the series only behind void century

so what

[graceful grove]

they are not going to LT next year xd at most they will have the last glyph so they can technically have everything set for that

[prisma idol]

Thats how it is when talking to some of the people here in general not just spice

[runic dock]

Until the next flashbsck that’s not void century happens

[grand flower]

"oda is sick of op" is just the written equivalent of watching brain rot slop tbvh

[red lagoon]

😭😭😭

[leaden rivet]

The most important part in which you’re referring to happens mostly in 2 chapters

[runic dock]

Lmfao sometimes you just gotta entertain this shit

[leaden rivet]

Which is really all the Imu and rocks stuff

Oda loves taking his time

[prisma idol]

Would they count as what's the word... lolcow I think? Or am I mistaking it for something else

[dense haven]

bruh

[prisma idol]

Its the longest

[runic dock]

He’s not sick of it , he constantly reinvents it when we move from island to island , he accomplishes all his desires that way , op his his child hood magnum opus , he wants to get it right

[stone tulip]

I just found out a popular Sonic streamer finally watched one piece and became a Vivi fan based https://x.com/gamescage_/status/2002775190317719724?s=46

GamesCage - Hype Guy (@GamesCage_)

FINALLY FINISHED ALABASTA.

First time I TRULY felt fully invested in the series now for a full arc LOL.

Sometimes there’s *too* much yaps, BUT Each of the straw hats getting their own moment & fight, Crocodile is a FIRE VILLAIN & I LOVE VIVI, DON’T LEAVE MEEEEE VIIVI😭

X · Dec 21, 2025, 4:16 PM

[dense haven]

there is so much more than goon valleyy in the flashback

people cant see past the rocks wank

[grand flower]

exactly why i'm like, why are yall entertaining this foolishness

your time is worth something else

[prisma idol]

Too much yap?

[grand flower]

even socrates'

[prisma idol]

There is never enough yap

[grand flower]

well maybe not socrates'

[stone tulip]

Oda’s timing is shit anyways so not guaranteed we would end Elbaf next year

[dense haven]

I love how shuron be like "dont entertain this shit" while hes actively entertaining this shit non stop

[leaden rivet]

Discord beef

[prisma idol]

Can't believe oda made 10 chapters of uninteresting content in this flashback, so much bloat smh smh

[graceful grove]

he is in for a surprise when he learns who Vivi ends up with

[dense rapids]

at most 35 chapters per year

[pine scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/elbaph-rocks-rocks-one-piece-rocks-d-xebec-xebec-gif-7921250111547198384

[dense haven]

there is 15 ekbaf chapters left

[glacial bear]

I love Xebec

[dense rapids]

elbaph can def end next year

[grand flower]

VIZ W

"You were our sons"

[pine scaffold]

Xebec is the best character in OP

[grand flower]

VIZ DOUBLE UUUU

[prisma idol]

At what point do we consider sb posting this consistently like this as spam?

[dense rapids]

the only thing left in the arc is the final fight

[red lagoon]

Manga animations go too crazy 😮‍💨😮‍💨

[dense rapids]

thats not gonna take 60 chapters

[red lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/loki-one-piece-gif-6066045990477841212

[pine scaffold]

JJK is the king of manga animations

[stone terrace]

If oda wants it to be dogshit itll take that long

[dense haven]

we are in the final fight already and luffy is getting shat on

[stone terrace]

Have luffy lose 3x

[prisma idol]

What did TCB say?

[grand flower]

Viz makes Gaban and Garp talking sound even more casual

[stone terrace]

😭

[stone tulip]

Idk what he meant by that although funny how I got a like on his tweet lol

[distant vine]

Wonder how many Rocks fans would take a fleshed out Rocks flashback in exchange for skipping Elbaph like rumored

[grand flower]

"you were like our sons"

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-loki-one-piece-loki-loki-one-piece-elbaph-gif-15061034807844986502

[grand flower]

I like this better

[runic dock]

You know when a final battle happens , more elements are always introduced and a ticking clock element appears

[grand flower]

Gaban just definitively says "you are our sons"

it's so cute

[glacial bear]

OU THAT SONIC GUY

[leaden rivet]

Really doubt Luffy fights Imu

[stone tulip]

Vivi isn’t marrying Wapol at all

[glacial bear]

He’s funny

[dense haven]

imu is the ticking clock

[glacial bear]

IMU will give them 3 minutes

[pine scaffold]

which is 300 chapters in our time

[red lagoon]

Speaking of 3 mins this flashback was men’s to be 3 minutes

[dense haven]

also yes luffy is not fighting imu hes getting dog walked

[red lagoon]

I don’t know how many months has passed since this flashback started

[prisma idol]

Loki is ass at story telling and got sidetracked

[pine scaffold]

I wish Xebec was still alive

[stone tulip]

Yeah the same guy who hyped Sonic since 2020’s and got a shoutout from the Sonic official account (even though it was mostly slandering him lmao)

[pine scaffold]

imagine if he took over the story and was the MC

[prisma idol]

Now all of elbaf is dead

[pine scaffold]

OP would become the biggest manga ever

[prisma idol]

Nice bait sb

[red lagoon]

Deadass everyone finna be dead by the time he finished

[glacial bear]

He was even at that Sonic 3 movie premier

[urban lodge]

JJK Piece

[leaden rivet]

How did it come to this

[red lagoon]

He gone tell Luffy how to beat the Hk’s and we gone cut to everyone on elbaf dead

[dense haven]

@pine scaffold would you put op above jjk if rocks was the mc

[graceful grove]

he is her savior, her hero. its a perfect match

[prisma idol]

Whatever do you mean?

[pine scaffold]

Okay actually this is tricky

[leaden rivet]

I remember people used to swear up and down to me that SB wasn’t baiting and he actually believed what he was saying, now no one is buying his stuff lol

[pine scaffold]

I really like jjk tho bruh

[stone tulip]

Yeah he was there too plus he even is hyping Megaman up right now, saw his reaction on live too

[distant vine]

Rocks MC posting is several months old lil bro

[red lagoon]

I just can’t trust someone who puts Jjk over op

[stone tulip]

Nah uh

[leaden rivet]

We’re leaving rocks in 2025

[prisma idol]

Well I do believe he actually believes it to a certain point, but the extent and consistency show signs of it being more bait than him actually believing it

[glacial bear]

Nah rocks merchandise will be POPPING in 2026 🔥

[dense haven]

this cover page was odas final farewell to rockbros

[glacial bear]

We will all be rocking the Xebec haircut

[dense haven]

actually yea rocks will be in the anime in 2026 so nvm

[urban lodge]

I'd rather kill myself

[graceful grove]

he is coming back when we get BB flashback in 2026

[dense haven]

its all gonna happen again

[pine scaffold]

all year long

[dense haven]

but this time with normies

[pine scaffold]

btw

[rose rune]

thighbreaker mentioned

[tough dust]

2027

[glacial bear]

Xebec’s English voice actor is the guy who voiced a villain in kingdom hearts

[pine scaffold]

Harald is gonna think abt Rocks in his final moments

[glacial bear]

And Kurama from Naruto

[pine scaffold]

I think

[tough dust]

the anime will only have 24 eps a year

[urban lodge]

He won't

[distant vine]

"Why Luffy Needs to Become More Like Rocks - A One Piece Video Essay"

[prisma idol]

It would be really fucking funny if he doesn't

[urban lodge]

He will think of his sons and Ida

[glacial bear]

Rocks is integral to the story like Roger

[distant vine]

Its hilarious you have to say this

[prisma idol]

Penny post the Rocks OC image please

[glacial bear]

There will be more scenes of him, especially in Blackbeard flashback #TRUST

[prisma idol]

I need to save it for later

[pine scaffold]

We are 100% gonna see how Roger and Rocks met

[urban lodge]

I'm on mobile, I only have it saved on pc

[graceful grove]

sons? only son he is thinking about is Loki. he probably don't even know who that other guy is now

[urban lodge]

Sorry

[urban lodge]

I think spice has it

[red lagoon]

Man who care how they met

[pine scaffold]

if Roger is crying over having to kill Rocks

we need to know their relationship

[frozen aspen]

secret lovers

[stone tulip]

Confirmed ?

[red lagoon]

Man they both dead as shit we don’t need more flashbacks on there life

[graceful grove]

thats Garp

[rose rune]

this needs some work before it can be an actual character

[frozen aspen]

threesome

[prisma idol]

Saved

[red lagoon]

How Roger and rocks met doesn’t benefit the story at all

[glacial bear]

Yeah

[pine scaffold]

HOW ARE U ALLOWED TO SAY THIS

[stone tulip]

@runic dock btw where did you see translations that it said it could be mean reunions too ?

[pine scaffold]

☠️ ☠️

[stone tulip]

Source ?

[frozen aspen]

why wouldn't I

[graceful grove]

Xebeck was their side nikka

[distant vine]

Rocks definetly feels like a hypebeasted aura farming MC and I really dont mind that

[frozen aspen]

my nickname is literally a poly ship

[urban lodge]

In my 3 minute edit I forgot to give him his eye mark thingies

[rose rune]

not inherently sexual

[prisma idol]

I wouldnt mind if it was another series

[urban lodge]

I need to make a better one

[dense haven]

rocks stole rogers entire career

[pine scaffold]

actually yeah

[runic dock]

It’s Paul St Peter

[pine scaffold]

thats true

[prisma idol]

But I dont really like those characters in OP

[red lagoon]

Why

[pine scaffold]

Tho I dont ever see people saying that

or calling it that

😭

[dense haven]

oda ruined roger for nothing

[rose rune]

because the other use of the word is waaaay more common

[frozen aspen]

annoying fans probably

[red lagoon]

How he ruined he still the goat

[prisma idol]

They are boring in all honesty. I like my slop MCs separate. Also the fans are ass

[distant vine]

Its just kinda fun to have someone run into Mariejois and threaten Imu

[urban lodge]

And unexplainably just leaves

Amazing

[distant vine]

I really wanna see how Rocks plan with the Devil Fruits would have turned out. Maybe he really would have won

[red lagoon]

Fr

[dense haven]

roger is only pk because rocks let him

[red lagoon]

I can never get tired of them aura farmers

[graceful grove]

OP is a story about an incel getting cucked and he decide to take over the world. nothing is off limit buddy. its all OP related

[leaden rivet]

Rocks was just kinda everything all at once

[urban lodge]

(sarcasm)

[glacial bear]

https://x.com/realpaulstpeter/status/1956500680027558350?s=61

Paul St. Peter (@RealPaulStPeter)

Yes; it's official. I AM ROCKS XEBEC IN ONE PIECE!!!!!

X · Aug 15, 2025, 11:38 PM

[prisma idol]

When will the Incel Imu stuff stop?

[leaden rivet]

Once Imu gets a woman

[graceful grove]

he had it coming. rest in piss

[frozen aspen]

the gorosei are just that wasted no wonder garling became one

[glacial bear]

Blackbeard > Imu

[prisma idol]

No

[rose rune]

Roger was dead on arrival

[glacial bear]

Yes. Imu is a BB victim

[graceful grove]

why would it stop when its cannon ?

[frozen aspen]

*future bb victim

[pine scaffold]

I think looking back on OP once it's ended and seeing BB be the final villain will be a good thing

like when manga series end, people think about the villains

the main villains

[distant vine]

You dont have to call Imu an incel, but can we call him a NEET?

[glacial bear]

There’s a sketch of Oda drawing Imu saying Wallahi. Mhm It’s true

[frozen aspen]

when we get smth else to slander him with

[urban lodge]

I'm not gonna think about that boring ass fate merchant

[dense haven]

people are gonna regret asking for bb final villain when hes just gonna be imu 2

[prisma idol]

Well NEET wouldnt work, he is self employed ruler of the world

[frozen aspen]

fake job

[distant vine]

He doesnt do anything lmao

[red lagoon]

Why is niggas hating on bb

[steel stirrup]

Oh big facts

[glacial bear]

Fr, and what better way than an actual Pirate that existed in real life to be the endgame antagonist of One Piece. A story about pirates!

[prisma idol]

I've always been vocal about my dislike for BB

[red lagoon]

But why

[distant vine]

Blackbeard would be a more iconic final villian. Absolutely.

[steel stirrup]

Who cares

[glacial bear]

Because he’s a Davy 😓

[frozen aspen]

I also really think bb>imu in terms of final villains

[red lagoon]

I 100% prefer bb over random secret ruler of the world as the final villain

[long basin]

that's robin's nose if I ever saw a robin nose

[dense haven]

well tough luck buddy thats what oda wants

[glacial bear]

He kinda has Denjiro’s face

https://tenor.com/view/denjiro-gif-21973777

[dense haven]

luffy is the secret pirate jesus all this time

[red lagoon]

Bb and Luffy got real beef

Imu forcing the beef with luffy he to old to be beefing 19 year old

[pine scaffold]

Yeah, when a manga ends people always think about iconic final villains

I can see BB's name popping up in those convos

[glacial bear]

Imu needs to go to a retirement home

[urban lodge]

Don't BB fans want him to be king of the world

[steel stirrup]

This is a family affair

[pine scaffold]

I dont feel the same with Imu

[urban lodge]

And also his ancestor was apparently king of the world

Though I don't buy it

[steel stirrup]

Of course you don't

[red lagoon]

Ye but bb and Luffy got real beef

[frozen aspen]

ppl who say Imu should be the final villain suffer from recency bias. Bb was there first. Od a didn't spend decades building him up just who have a guy who showed recently relatively speaking be the final boss.

[distant vine]

This could change but Imu would need a lot of character work to shift the tide

[red lagoon]

Imu just a nigga with ptsd

[pine scaffold]

I think its unfortunately too late

[red lagoon]

Luffy gotta get back for ace

[pine scaffold]

Imu was just introduced way too late

like we are gonna get a flashback abt them duh

[urban lodge]

Stop with that shit

[pine scaffold]

but its too late

too close to the end

[urban lodge]

You idolize Rocks and he was introduced at the same time

[steel stirrup]

Ace's brothers will get that mid villain out of the way and then the real final fight will begin

[glacial bear]

Rest In Peace Ace

[red lagoon]

But rocks not final villain contender

[glacial bear]

Luffy gotta do this for him

[red lagoon]

Rocks just a cool character

[distant vine]

Let Sb cook, he can be right about this

[pine scaffold]

He's not a relevant character tho in terms of current OP

[urban lodge]

He's a non-character made to hype up the guy who is

[glacial bear]

LMFAO

[red lagoon]

Rocks just a nigga wit hella aura

[brittle basin]

What is this drawing on the right from?

[red lagoon]

We been hearing bout bb in the back since drum island

[dense rapids]

New magazine

[brittle basin]

Rocks was also a man of action.

[glacial bear]

Rocks was a family man

[brittle basin]

What magazine specifically?

[pine scaffold]

BB has had tons of moments throughout the series, has much more of a presence

[long basin]

Rocks was a hoodlum.

[pine scaffold]

this helps a lot

[red lagoon]

Imu only just started feeling like something

Before he was just there

But bb name been ringing bells

[dense rapids]

Idk the name the one that release today

It’s Imu talking about lily’s mistake

[dense haven]

rocks was a better family man/pirate/friend/captain than roger

[red lagoon]

All the way back from drum island

[long basin]

Ace kinda lives like Rocks and failed, therefore BB will live like Roger and ... fail as well

[brittle basin]

Problem is - and this is the nature of just having a long manga - that it's spread thinly throughout the entire series that it's easy to just kind of forget BB is a main antagonist at times until Oda reminds you.

[prisma idol]

I dont really find BB interesting as a character. Its honestly hard to describe what I dont like. People glaze the shit out of the guy and I just dont see the hype thats all.

I also dont like the constant need for Blackbeard in Pirate media. It's overdone. So there is a bit of meta distaste as well

[steel stirrup]

Introduced in the same arc as Rocks but BB has been here since Drum Island

[pine scaffold]

Yeah this is just a length issue

[brittle basin]

it is

Goda

[red lagoon]

Niggas been waiting for the Luffy and bb real fight

[dense haven]

people been waiting for zoro vs mihawk too

who cares

[red lagoon]

And ts got some real beef behind it

[urban lodge]

Rocks' real successor Buggy has been there since Orange Town

[dense haven]

imu is the final villain

[steel stirrup]

HA!

[red lagoon]

👀

[brittle basin]

I think the backstory and desire to fulfill his father and/or mother's desires will make up for any of you're feeling.

[red lagoon]

Now u speaking my language

https://tenor.com/view/buggy-gif-19915850

[keen quiver]

Love every single fiber of this man's being and the hustle.

[pine scaffold]

Oda wrote this scene for nothing then

This was the moment I knew BB was final villain

[red lagoon]

Bb really got it out the mud

[steel stirrup]

That part

[dense haven]

"imu is introduced too late" well guess what luffy was made pirate jesus too late too

[steel stirrup]

Stayed down for 20 years

[brittle basin]

Imu was my final villain until this chapter.

[red lagoon]

Gang WHAT are u even saying

[steel stirrup]

Bro fighting demons

[keen quiver]

I love character's that grind, rise from nothing at any cost. The planning and just brutally of it all is just so interesting.

[restive wedge]

The inevitable moment when Buggy actually clutches up in the perfect moment is gonna ignite my brain with dopamine

[pine scaffold]

see even Buffy agrees lmao

aint just me saying this

[dense rapids]

Indeed

[long basin]

Imu is the opposite of adventure. he is the mother

[prisma idol]

My hottest take will be i do not care about the interpersonal beef between BB and Luffy. I could give a rats ass about Ace and so the beef just already felt meh.

I'm more interesting in the geopolitics and World story and history that happens and that happens to tie more in with Imu. Even with the recent Davy stuff, which by the way I dont like.

[keen quiver]

Teach is a man who will do anything to see his dream come true.

[red lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-just-typing-shit-bro-just-typing-shit-gif-18336060238854257551

[keen quiver]

Unlike his father

[steel stirrup]

Its willful ignorance or just blindness

[keen quiver]

Who had limits

Who din't have what it took to abandon it all for his dream

[red lagoon]

Bb really got it out the mud too

[prisma idol]

Probably not, I dont care for Rocks or Davy and im not huge on revenge stories unless they are isekai slop

[pine scaffold]

Xebec's one weakness is being too early

[keen quiver]

And caring for his family truly

[glacial bear]

Blackbeard started from humble beginnings and worked his way up

[keen quiver]

A child is a parent's greatest weakness

[dense haven]

rocks fans are never truly gone they all gonnna join the bb bandwagon

[steel stirrup]

Thats your opinion and you're entitled to that

[brittle basin]

Yeah, I don't think Oda could've hit us over the head any harder with BB=true final villain like he did with this flashback. Of course, Imu will be a major villain, but there will come a chapter of reckogning in which BB fulfills his father's will and literally kill Imu and possibly take their DF (if it is a fruit).

[prisma idol]

Thats why I said its my take

[pine scaffold]

its fucked up we gotta say these are weaknesses 😭 like bruhhh

thats op for u tho

[long basin]

he joined WB at the age of ... 3?

[grand flower]

I'm reaing into this for sure

[red lagoon]

Real niggas was wit bb before rocks

[grand flower]

reading

[urban lodge]

Blackbeard being fed that dream genuinely kills his character for me if that's the case

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/son-of-a-bitch-chris-farley-saturday-night-live-god-damn-it-aw-come-one-gif-18069882

[red lagoon]

Why

[glacial bear]

That’s high IQ play by young Teach 🙏

[steel stirrup]

First of all

I've loved BB since Jaya. This Rocks shit is just extra sauce for me

[red lagoon]

Op all about inherited wills

[urban lodge]

Dreams are integral to his character

[dense haven]

rocks fans they're like those divorced mothers who put her daughter in ballet class because she could never achieve anything during her youth so she tried to relive that again using her offspring

[keen quiver]

In the end teach is gonna fail due to luffy, nobody thinks he's gonna win vs him.

[pine scaffold]

it just wouldn't make sense for Oda to write all this just for BB to lose like his father

like man

[keen quiver]

But teach and luffy are big dreamers

[sweet anvil]

The real person who inherited rocks will

[trim lily]

the only thing that can kill blackbeard for me is how much his dream/goal is connected to xebec

[steel stirrup]

Hell nah

[urban lodge]

Yeah but it's never this on the nose

[brittle basin]

To be fair, these are weaknesses in real life. People can have their families threatened and held hostage.

[prisma idol]

I mean I'm going to read what happens, I just have a preference on what would happen, which would be us ending with Imu and the WG over BB

[golden valley]

Except Rocks fans (the majority) don’t actually like Bb

[keen quiver]

But not before he puts down the king of rats

[steel stirrup]

But everything up until that point is what im here for

[red lagoon]

I mean Luffy we know got the exact same dream as Roger

[steel stirrup]

FACTS

[red lagoon]

I guess they just mirroring

[golden valley]

Rocks fans who dont like bb are red flags

[prisma idol]

And I'm sure Oda will make BB have an interesting story, but it probably wont be something I will like to high heaven

[dense haven]

rocks fans dont need to like bb, they just riding the aura because they gonna transfer all his feats into rocks feats

[red lagoon]

Ong

[brittle basin]

I was originally Imu over BB until the Rocks flashback, now it seems Oda is reminding us why he introduced BB so long ago.

[urban lodge]

Yes, but it's not because Roger is his parent and told him to be pirate king

[red lagoon]

If u like rocks and not bb stays away from me

[urban lodge]

He has the same dream completely independently

[keen quiver]

Gonna say it was all due to the Davy blood btw

Watch

[trim lily]

i’m still not super interested in imu as a current villain

i’m very interested in their past though

[glacial bear]

Ever since I saw Imu face reveal, I’m glazing Blackbeard ngl

[steel stirrup]

How is Luffy having Roger's will not one the nose but BB having Rocks will is?

[pine scaffold]

oh I aint shitting on it, its just sad but realistic

[sweet anvil]

I like everyone except shanks and the holy bums

[red lagoon]

Ye I was finna say

[urban lodge]

I explained above

[red lagoon]

Imu just interesting cause of the mystery

[keen quiver]

Davy clan was the biggest hit to imu stuff since the joyboy panic attack.

[red lagoon]

But as a villain bb interest me more

[brittle basin]

In hindsight, Oda can make this so BB is thinking about Rocks here.

[sweet anvil]

I don’t think any one piece characters are unlikeable ngl

Except for a few

[steel stirrup]

Exactly

[red lagoon]

EVER SINCE HIS INTRO HE HAD AURA

[glacial bear]

I hated Absalom

[red lagoon]

Bb the fuckin goat

[graceful grove]

no matter how badly some ppl want BB to be final Villain, it won't happen.
Both of their goals are on the same destination. both need OP and there will be only one clear winner there.

[prisma idol]

Man I hate the word Aura

[glacial bear]

And Dr hogback

[keen quiver]

Carrying on where his father left

[steel stirrup]

Glad he's dead

Wish I could've seen it

[keen quiver]

Inherited will

[urban lodge]

That would make this scene so much worse

[distant vine]

But Maya has aura

[brittle basin]

Very auraless statement of you, Bluko.

[steel stirrup]

Thats just rage bait

[prisma idol]

No maya has whimsy not aura

[golden valley]

Blackbeard wants the world, I do not see an implication where he has a false dream, someone as ambitious as Blackbeard doesn’t make sense if they were doing it just for Rocks.

[prisma idol]

Major mistake there indi

[red lagoon]

Exactly

[brittle basin]

Possibly, but this has now become a very understandable interpretation after the Rocks flashback.

[keen quiver]

@brittle basin almost like this is a story of inherited will and dreams

[red lagoon]

U don’t wait 30 years tryna find a df cause ur dad wanted too

Nigga unless ur heart really in it

Ur not doing ts

[glacial bear]

Blackbeard has a supreme grade sword

[steel stirrup]

Well what are the odds of ts

[prisma idol]

I would rather have no aura than have aura

[urban lodge]

Oh we doing the Socrates thing of calling everything we disagree with ragebait?

[steel stirrup]

Thank you

[brittle basin]

Dragon upscale soon.

[brittle basin]

my farts have aura

[sweet anvil]

Inherited will is reincarnation in disguise but we aren’t ready for it

[dense haven]

dragon sadily is gonna be a garling match up

[steel stirrup]

Saying that would make the scene worse has a malevolent vibe to it

[glacial bear]

THAT FACELMAO

[prisma idol]

I think you should get thag checked out at the doctor

[pine scaffold]

Davy D. Jones being introduced was Imu fans biggest nightmare

[dense haven]

dragon vs garling is gonna be extreme diff and dragonfans are never recovering from that

[urban lodge]

It's my honest opinion, you're free to disagree

[keen quiver]

Every dream is valid in its own way

Luffy just tends to clash with people's dreams

[steel stirrup]

I'm gonna pray that Nika can free your heart from this hatred

[sweet anvil]

If dragon goes extreme diff with garling I might cry

Wragon going extreme diff with bumling is the ultimate downscale

[glacial bear]

Unfortunately I do see that happening

Because of demonic powers

[keen quiver]

Very likely to happen

[steel stirrup]

"Now there are two of them"

[red lagoon]

Imu fans?!?

[graceful grove]

Oda will hype Dragon even if its only to glaze Luffy xd Dragon will be fine

[red lagoon]

Brother eughh

[sweet anvil]

Shamrock will defeat garling

[final trench]

Lowkey

[prisma idol]

Fuck it

Shanks wins
Shanks gets the One Piece
Shanks kills BB and Luffy
Shanks destroys Imu
Shanks is the Child of prophecy so Shanks always wins

[urban lodge]

But this isn't introduced too late apparently

[final trench]

Possibly

[keen quiver]

Davy jones and joyboy are here ? I better keep my ass in the flower room or I'm finished !!!

[red lagoon]

U saying it like ts a joke

[final trench]

WHOAAAAAAA

[long basin]

Rocks had the Ope Ope no mi and transferred himself into Teach.

[final trench]

WHAT IN THE FUCK DID I JUST WALK INTO

[steel stirrup]

800 year old Haki had bro trembling

[glacial bear]

Garling in the end will be defeated by Dragon to conclude Dragon avenging Shanks momma.

[keen quiver]

Davy and joyboy had this man pressed for 800 years

[sweet anvil]

And then you wake up

[golden valley]

When Garling is confirmed the strongest Gorosei and 2nd to Imu 😱😱

[keen quiver]

Kind of demon timing were they on

[pine scaffold]

His existence supports BB being the final villain

[long basin]

op op no mi stance. canon

[final trench]

Davy was the king
Joyboy was spreading war

[steel stirrup]

Sis, 800 years later is WILD

[red lagoon]

Deffo gone be some shi like this

[sweet anvil]

In your dreams maybe

[dense haven]

wtf is this hair color man

[final trench]

They both can damage imu, but they didnt work together so he’s still alive

[dense haven]

buggy erasure

[pine scaffold]

Yes hes being introduced late, but hes not going to be an actual major player in current OP similar to Rocks

[brittle basin]

Evil Boy

[red lagoon]

I forgot ppl thought rocks had a df.

Ppl thought rocks had laws fruit and even buggy fruit

[prisma idol]

It doesn't if anything it more hints at a final 3 way fight. Or even Bb and Luffy teamuo

[keen quiver]

What kind of opposition has you moving like this

[leaden rivet]

Biggest gorosei downscale ever if true

[long basin]

buggy's fruit as well? brilliant !

[glacial bear]

Who defeats Shamrock. Buggy?

[red lagoon]

Ye but like awakened or something

[golden valley]

So you must have a low opinion of Dragon then, is he really Wragon?

[pine scaffold]

yeah, but then once the fight is over it'll be luffy vs bb to decide the fate of the world

[keen quiver]

People finally gave up on teach being beaten before imu

[brittle basin]

This is also a possibility since Luffy will have Shirahoshi, Imu Uranus, and BB Pluton.

[keen quiver]

You love to see it

[steel stirrup]

They must have been stuffing Imu into lockers and giving bro swirlies and shit

[graceful grove]

loki

[red lagoon]

Rocks was cutting the top of the mountains off just to aura farm

[leaden rivet]

No they haven’t

[pine scaffold]

cuz theres no way BB is gonna be alive EOS

[long basin]

he could even split his crew apart

[sweet anvil]

He’ll 2v1 gorosei members just wait

[leaden rivet]

Dressrosa Zoro level

[urban lodge]

I think we're way past that already, but my preference is to have Blackbeard, the guy who was introduced talking about dreams, to have his own dreams, not some "accomplishing what his father failed to accomplish" thing or some stupid revenge plot

[golden valley]

Sad reality

[keen quiver]

Got me skipping in a field of daisies

[steel stirrup]

I think Imu is great in a vacuum, I just think BB is better in every way

[keen quiver]

Imu only cares about luffy due to joyboy

[steel stirrup]

Thats it

[sweet anvil]

Blackbeard kills imu

[keen quiver]

Teach has way more legit history

[brittle basin]

BB is currently better narratively, but the Ancient Kingdom flashback could change that for all I know.

[keen quiver]

With luffy

[steel stirrup]

Luffy gives zero fucks about Imu but BB they got reallllll bad blood

[glacial bear]

Mariejois will transform into Blackbeard Kingdom

[keen quiver]

Also heavy ties with shanks not just luffy

Curious

[sweet anvil]

What if bb vs Luffy vs imu is a three way fight

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/faints-fresh-prince-fell-down-falling-down-fall-gif-17320032

[graceful grove]

Luffy in LT reading bold text written by Joyboy telling him to finish what he failed to do 800 years ago

[prisma idol]

I keep my ideas simple.

Bb isn't the final villain simply because he is aiming for the OP. He will fight Luffy for it on laughtale and that is where his story ends, at most he will come back as a cockroaxh at the end to try and fight against Imu with luffy, which isn't impossible but not what I would prefer by a long shot.

Imu has to be fought after the VC flashback which can only happen after we find the OP and learn the true history. This is simply because of Imu's connections to all of that.

[steel stirrup]

Imu dying first

[sweet anvil]

Triple threat match

[keen quiver]

Nastiest teach upscale of all time

[pine scaffold]

Imu dying first

[steel stirrup]

YESSIRRR

[sweet anvil]

I lowkey wouldn’t hate it

[pine scaffold]

has Oda ever did a three way fight

like

can he even do one

😭

[leaden rivet]

He isn’t just aiming for the op

He wants the world

All of it

[keen quiver]

Telling me teach can hang with no limit gear 5 and imu ???

[steel stirrup]

We gon put a pin in this and come back to it Ina few years

[brittle basin]

Yeah I think this has been one of the leading theories for a long time 'cause when the OP is found is extremely important based on an SBS or something, right?

[keen quiver]

I'll take that upscale

[leaden rivet]

He wants to be king of the world

[sweet anvil]

The mural says they will meet again in the 3rd world referencing bb imu and luffy

[brittle basin]

However, BB can undo all of that.

[leaden rivet]

So he’s going for Imu just as much as Luffy is

[steel stirrup]

Too much sauce they gon really hate my goat then

[sweet anvil]

They’ll meet again and have the final battle of the final war

[ashen perch]

Yea I pointed this out too, it's definitely them.

[leaden rivet]

I don’t care who dies first I just want a Blackbeard vs Imu fight

[keen quiver]

"Luffy carried teach in the fight"

I can already see it

[pine scaffold]

BB fighting Luffy twice could def happen

[sweet anvil]

No one will be carrying anyone

A 3 way fight

[steel stirrup]

Blackbeard wants the entire world not just the One Piece so you kinda fucked up already, sis.

[sweet anvil]

All of them fighting eachother

[brittle basin]

We may not even get that. There is the possibility he assassinates him or something. The way he killed WB was cowardly after all.

[pine scaffold]

like BB loses and u think hes done but comes RIGHT back at the end and its a huge moment

it'd be so fucking hype

[keen quiver]

Being king of the world puts him in opposition to luffy

[dense haven]

1v1?

[leaden rivet]

Yes

[steel stirrup]

Direct, even.

[ashen perch]

The official translation (pinned) implies that too yeah

[leaden rivet]

Blackbeard and Luffy teaming up is dumb

[leaden rivet]

I can only see this working if Luffy defeats Imu and Blackbeard deals the final blow

[steel stirrup]

If its that or death, what are they to do?

[leaden rivet]

And then after Blackbeard is defeated the aliens can show up

[urban lodge]

BB will get defeated before Laugh Tale and magically survive like a roach and come back 200 chapters later to team up with Luffy against Imu or just to sneak Imu

[sweet anvil]

Imu vs joyboy vs Davy in the second world then imu vs Luffy vs Blackbeard in the third world

[ashen perch]

Wdym after, Imu is the alien

[golden valley]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-rayleigh-silvers-old-man-tears-gif-19898148

[dense haven]

if by some miracle bb wins vs imu I assume people gonna want him to absord imus powers? that would just be imu again with extra steps

otherwise I dont think bb vs luffy will be much harder

[sweet anvil]

One piece modulo 🥹

[steel stirrup]

Flower Moon Princess again

[ashen perch]

Have you guys seen the supposed sketch that shows Imu's face

[red lagoon]

I deffo see it happening

[pine scaffold]

no cuz its BB

[steel stirrup]

No

[urban lodge]

I really don't think that's Imu lol

[ashen perch]

I don't but it ngl, I think Oda wouldn't have left that in

Yeah me neither

[steel stirrup]

Lemme see

[urban lodge]

It's some random guy

Or Garling

[red lagoon]

Is it the picture of the women with the crown?

[ashen perch]

Nah one sec

[frozen aspen]

looks too lame to be imu

[sweet anvil]

Do you guys think imu is a woman or man

[red lagoon]

Woman

[dense haven]

woman

[pine scaffold]

Man

[steel stirrup]

Nah thats old they're talking about something from Jump Festa this morning

[red lagoon]

I think imu a man Ina women body

[red lagoon]

Ohh

[sweet anvil]

Yeah

Took over lilis body

[ashen perch]

https://fixupx.com/i/status/2002814788175565051

sandman (@sandman_AP)

The following 2 male sketches by Oda seems to depict the true face of Imu !!🔥🔥 This is because he says:“The crime of the young queen who unleashed the Poneglyphs upon the world! On that day, she betrayed us. Alabasta’s sin was allowing words to be left for the future!!”🌏

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FixupX · Dec 21, 2025, 6:53 PM

[steel stirrup]

I think Imu is a man or a demon that is possessing Lili

[red lagoon]

Ye

[sweet anvil]

Wait

[frozen aspen]

How did u get acess to Oda's secrwt dream ending ?

[ashen perch]

Doss it show two images, if not click it

[urban lodge]

Sandman is so irritating

[steel stirrup]

Either a woman or a twink

Either way I win

[sweet anvil]

We know there’s a monarch called imu nerona

[red lagoon]

Ye I see 2

[sweet anvil]

Right

[prisma idol]

I talk to oda on a daily basis

[frozen aspen]

damn

[graceful grove]

BB is essentially on same path as Kid. he is not going to give up and let luffy run off to LT. that means they have to clash before LT. i do believe BB will crawl back to final war somehow. who knows maybe as a Imu domi reversi soldier?

[ashen perch]

That definitely doesn't seem to be a woman lol

[sweet anvil]

So imu is a devil inhabiting that monarch

[red lagoon]

He’s never mentioned u to me

[urban lodge]

He's making a huge assumption and people are just gonna run with it

[prisma idol]

Because you arent his actual buddy

[red lagoon]

??

[steel stirrup]

Thats what im doing

[brittle basin]

Oda's a slave driver confirmed.

[sweet anvil]

Haven’t people made theories that sandman is Odas wife

[grand flower]

I’m crying bruh this is obviously Garling in the first ome

[sweet anvil]

I wonder if that’s true

[pine scaffold]

is it possible Imu is just a kid whos immortal

[steel stirrup]

Yes

[ashen perch]

Yea its the 2nd one I dont get

[steel stirrup]

I think they are a child as well

[ashen perch]

Could it be, whats his name uh

[steel stirrup]

Mad childish

[frozen aspen]

he should take op to mappa ,he'd feel at home there

[ashen perch]

Chaka?

Chaka kinda looked like that

[red lagoon]

Is about what?

[sweet anvil]

Imu is an umibozu that took over the body of the monarch imu nerona

[urban lodge]

It's probably Chaka

[brittle basin]

So, we don't get burn scar man until Laugh Tale?

[sweet anvil]

Come back to this in 5 years

[red lagoon]

Where can I read all this jumpfest shit

[sweet anvil]

It’s lodestar trust

[steel stirrup]

Very immature and impatient

And DR and the CDs and HK always make things into a "game"

I think Imu is a child ngl

[sweet anvil]

To get to laughtale you need the burn scar guy first

So it has to be lodestar

[pine scaffold]

apparently the way they speak is childish in japanese

[dense haven]

@brittle basin dude next arc is laugh tale

[ashen perch]

Yeah, I really really really doubt Oda would let them just show Imu's face like that, they have always meticulously edited this stuff out from Oda's notes

[red lagoon]

Is it?

[golden valley]

Yeah and its just because the average One Piece fan can’t comprehend that Sandman just does information digging on officially released things about Oda

[brittle basin]

it better be.

[red lagoon]

It sounds like imu talks hella proper

[steel stirrup]

Also they love turning genocide or anything else they do into a "game"

[graceful grove]

well one thing for certain is its not a little punk kid. we good

[red lagoon]

Or maybe that just the translation

[steel stirrup]

Its a mix

[sweet anvil]

Fr what child is using terms like dominion of God

[prisma idol]

OMG I JUST REALIZED WHAT THIS FINAL VILLAIN ARGUMENT REMINDS ME OF

[sweet anvil]

Or whatever imu said that one time

[red lagoon]

Ts too advanced

[sweet anvil]

What

[red lagoon]

For a kid

[prisma idol]

We are just doing the Battle Shounen equivalent of Waifu wars

[red lagoon]

Unless I was a stupid kid

[golden valley]

Apparently not true

[steel stirrup]

Very child like but also uses old word language like "thee, thou art, etc"

So imagine a noble child

[ashen perch]

More specifically like the romcom triangle/harem debates

[steel stirrup]

From 900 years ago

[wraith mantle]

If Oda was based he would leak the chapter as Xmas present

[red lagoon]

Mm maybe

[prisma idol]

Thats why it felt so similar because I've been in so many of these

[ashen perch]

"my girl is DEFINITELY going to end up with the MC" - Imu/BB debaters

[prisma idol]

I felt the same anger I felt so many years ago....

[wraith mantle]

Fuck is a waifu war bro

[red lagoon]

😭😭😭😭

[prisma idol]

Newgen....

[sweet anvil]

Shanks vs Blackbeard is also similar to another fight but I can’t say without spoiling

[pine scaffold]

https://x.com/sandman_AP/status/1664484365844488192

sandman (@sandman_AP)

The first page of chapter 1085 is officially out. Imu refers to himself/herself as Mu (ムー), which gives us Japanese fans a somewhat *childish* impression. BTW, Mu is a mythical lost continent introduced by Augustus Le Plongeon, who identified the "Land of Mu" with Atlantis.🔔

X · Jun 2, 2023, 4:09 AM

[glacial bear]

Blackbeard my favorite waifu

[red lagoon]

Waifu war sound crazy😭😭

[steel stirrup]

Time is a flat circle

[tranquil blade]

What's funny is one piece kinda doesnt have this in terms of romance

[pine scaffold]

Imu could be like Sugar

[prisma idol]

A waifu war is people arguing for a Female lead to win a romance story, usually where there is more than one romance option for the Male lead

[steel stirrup]

Crazy but true

[pine scaffold]

stuck as a kid

[steel stirrup]

Yep

[sweet anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-stream-ishowspeed-stream-speed-nod-gif-1082323842437565509

[wraith mantle]

Sounds kinda lit

[prisma idol]

You find it more in harem anime

[wraith mantle]

It’s agenda but for romcom

[tranquil blade]

This is like something the other 2 of the big 3 went through

[pine scaffold]

Also Sugar's abilities are very interesting and could connect to Imu in some ways

[steel stirrup]

There's a theory that Imu was a sick child and needed the immortality surgery to live

[pine scaffold]

like wiping history

etc etc

[ashen perch]

Well technically you could say that the material for a debate like that definitely exists

[prisma idol]

Hell no keep the word agenda out of romcom anime

[sweet anvil]

Cook

[ashen perch]

Nami/Boa/Vivi/etc

[sweet anvil]

One problem I have

Is it imu is a kid

[wraith mantle]

Buddy stop being in denial

[sweet anvil]

How tf did they get those powers

[red lagoon]

That means imu was a child as a king

[glacial bear]

Kill that kid

[prisma idol]

I can tell you arent in the shipping community

[wraith mantle]

You were pushing agenda

[red lagoon]

What the helly

[sweet anvil]

That has to be the power of a devil right

[red lagoon]

I mean a king as a child

[tranquil blade]

The problem is only one person actually likes Luffy in that way, and Luffy himself does not care about romance at the moment

[tranquil blade]

Yeah...

[sweet anvil]

The sea devil possessed the child monarch (imu nerona) ✌️

[pine scaffold]

Who knows really, maybe they got forced the powers upon them?

[sweet anvil]

Trust

[steel stirrup]

Imu means "void" but it can also be translated as "avoid"

If Imu was a sick child with a very contagious disease, that could be why they were named that.

But being the child of royalty they still were cared for.

[pine scaffold]

or maybe they are possessed

[glacial bear]

Probably an Uta situation. Nerona is possessed by the devil

[ashen perch]

You don't really need much for those debates lol

[red lagoon]

He doesn’t care about romance but we need two piece so he gotta do what he gotta do ✌🏾

[sweet anvil]

Don’t we know that imu was a monarch as well

saint imu nerona