also-manga

[sage temple]

I think it will play out with Loki being the main player against Harald

[stone tulip]

Yeah and Luffy is 19 right now too

[sage temple]

Yeah so Loki would be 3 years younger than current Luffy

[pine scaffold]

Gaban and Shanks are support imo

[stone tulip]

Makes me wanna see Loki confronting Imu right now

[sage temple]

Yeah they're support with Loki being the main player

[stone tulip]

Yeah even tho he is now older for sure

[pine scaffold]

I think their goal is to make enough time for Loki to arrive

like Jarul told them

[stone tulip]

Yeah that sounds about right

[sage temple]

Like Bonney, Franky, and Sanji supporting Luffy against Yokai Mars

[pine scaffold]

cant let Harald get to Loki rn

[sage temple]

Yeah exactly

[muted hedge]

Shanks and Gaban came after Loki had run off

so i don't think they even know that Loki is involved right now

[sage temple]

Yeah they're just trying their best to stall him

[pine scaffold]

Harald was about to chase after Loki if it wasnt for gaban/shanks

[stone tulip]

Kinda like what happened during Wano with Luffy being key player and everyone else is support against Kaido

[sage temple]

They do know that..?

[pine scaffold]

Yeah

[unique lagoon]

ok this dialog adds more importance to ragnir

[muted hedge]

Shanks and Gaban are trying to break the control, without having to beat Harald

[pine scaffold]

This is a team battle, but Luffy/Loki are the main fighters

Harald is like a boss fight lol

[sage temple]

They definitely know about Loki being there

[pine scaffold]

''PLEASE... STOP HARALD!! DON'T LET HIM GO AFTER LOKI''

thats Jarul telling them to stall Harald

[muted hedge]

Shanks is thinking about how to break the control the whole time

[unique lagoon]

compare to the other translation

[sage temple]

Yeah, but they have no idea to do that right now and nothing says they do

[brittle basin]

I'll I read is "seaking upscale."

[sage temple]

Truee

[stone tulip]

Yeah these two are definitely aware of the full situation and there has to be good reason why they allowed Loki to end up being scapegoat again.

[muted hedge]

Loki doesn't want to blame his father, it's easy really

[frigid gulch]

If anyone doubted it was Shamrock

[stone tulip]

That hammer is definitely special for sure

[frigid gulch]

[sage temple]

Yeah and they're trying to stall Harald so Loki can take over and kill Harald successfully

[urban lodge]

Idk why people doubted

[frigid gulch]

Cope

[unique lagoon]

i think its very important
not just some strong ass weapon

[brittle basin]

Did the hammer eat a DF is the real question? Is it magic? Or could it be related to the science of the 3000-year old facility on Elbaf?

[stone tulip]

Possible but wonder if there is something else cause in beginning of the arc Loki wanted to be free and why Shanks ended up imprison him ?

[muted hedge]

i think it's just some strong ass weapon to be honest

[stone tulip]

That’s sounds about right

[pine scaffold]

Harald tells Loki straight up, hes the ONLY one who can do this

[muted hedge]

if it was very important than there would probably be more people searching for Ragnir

[stone terrace]

Oh its confirmed now

[muted hedge]

like people are for the Ancient Weapons

[stone terrace]

Well it was either shamrock or hinokizu

[pine scaffold]

idk why people are being so silly about it like

just read the story bro

😭 😭

[shadow vault]

If the theory about the hammer is not a zoan df then that hammer literally magic bullshitery 100% ancient weapon that power up by ancient energy

[muted hedge]

Loki was rampaging and probably got too close to Shanks friends, endangering them

[royal orchid]

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FixupX · Dec 19, 2025, 12:30 AM

[stone tulip]

Never did

[unique lagoon]

the leaker was kinda right i guess
ge ge ge
gek gek gek

[sage temple]

Yeah it seems like Loki is being emphasized as the only one who can do this

[stone tulip]

Could be Enma type of situation tho

[sage temple]

Interesting

[stone terrace]

Those thighs

[pine scaffold]

Viz makes it much more clear

[stone tulip]

Could be like Enma

[sage temple]

True

[stone tulip]

Maybe but I do wonder if there is more to it than that

[shadow vault]

Well yeah could be like enma but that hammer move on its own and thats crazy as hell

[muted hedge]

Harald didn't know that Gaban and Shanks were close when he said this but yeah

[unique lagoon]

nah enma still just a strong weapon for fighting
im talking about something else

[muted hedge]

could be, but i don't know what it would be

[sage temple]

Yeah but nothing says Gaban and Shanks are able to actually kill Harald right now

So yeah

[shadow vault]

But 100% that hammer was like mjolnir

[muted hedge]

you're right, since they don't want to kill him

[sage temple]

Right now all we know is Loki is the only one hinted as capable to kill a regen user

[tranquil blade]

Yeah it's pretty good

[unique lagoon]

i wonder why viz dint have the "legendary sword" part

[brittle basin]

I need to see this in action 'cause I'm still doubtful about it. What makes it need an entity of a very large size for it to work properly? It makes me double doubt it's the Nika fruit 'cause Luffy is doing just great with it and he's not a giant. Or maybe it is the Nika fruit and these giants just have some goofy myth about the Nika fruit only being useful for giants.

[sage temple]

Yeah but they likely have no choice

Loki himself said he had no choice but to kill Harald

[brittle basin]

[muted hedge]

maybe Shanks will figure out a way to break the control, but Loki goes through with the final blow since he doubts Shanks or something

[pine scaffold]

oh wait thats not viz

my bad

[muted hedge]

that would be an Oda way of writing this, lol

[unique lagoon]

tbf its not really easy to just invade elbaf for the hammer or the df

most people dont even know sun realm exist

[sage temple]

Shanks himself said there is no way to do so and I doubt he'll just find out a way

[muted hedge]

you're right, but it's not easy to invade anyplace where ancient weapons are stored either really

[sage temple]

This is pretty unlikely

[pine scaffold]

Holy knights > Domi Reversi

[sage temple]

Just slapping the "Oda glazes Shanks" label on everything doesn't mean that'll actually happen

[unique lagoon]

im not even mentioning forgotten history/information

[sage temple]

True

[pine scaffold]

Domi reversi can be stopped

[mighty shell]

peak

[pine scaffold]

but not HK

[sage temple]

Yeah the HKs are concrete

[unique lagoon]

rocks dint even mention ragnir
mf dint know

[muted hedge]

i think it's very likely

[sage temple]

I think it's very unlikely

But you're entitled to your own opinion

👍

Also beautiful clash right here

[pine scaffold]

Harald and Loki's haki is crazy

look at the size

[unique lagoon]

i still dont know if imus end game is the king he controls eats the DF

cuz imu can still make a giant army with just herald

[muted hedge]

they're planning on getting rid of Jarul right now

[sage temple]

Controlling the DF is likely what Harald needs to make a giant army

[unique lagoon]

well not really

he can just fool them as is

change policy

[muted hedge]

they'd probably believe him

given they praise Harald as a god

[unique lagoon]

if you talking about the 100 frozen giants thats another topic

[muted hedge]

it's pretty funny though, given Imu just made all of Elbaph into their personal army right now

by turning the giants with domi reversi, he did what he asked Harald to do

[pine scaffold]

Why did Imu wait 14 years to send the holy knights

I dont get it

[sage temple]

It's kind of implied. These are Imu's orders and Harald must follow them

[unique lagoon]

cuz my idea atm is the 100 giants can make more pluton
the king and who ever wield ragnir can command them
i can even go as far as ragnir the magic weapon is needed to create pluton

[sage temple]

If he wants the fruit and Ragnir, he likely needs them to follow Imu's orders

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/toki-oden-one-piece-whitebeard-pirates-kozuki-family-gif-27527878

[brittle basin]

I don't think any of us do. It feels like an oversight on Oda's part.

[unique lagoon]

what are you saying again? i feel like you are talking about a different thing

[stone terrace]

Because the world went to shit

[pine scaffold]

yeah......................................... cuz the abyss circle was there all this time

[stone terrace]

Imu didnt need elbaf yet

[pine scaffold]

like whats stopping them

[tranquil blade]

My only guess is they waited until they felt like they needed to bring the giants under them

[royal orchid]

there's no gifs showing the frozen punk hazard giants ;(

[brittle basin]

It's more than that. What about the past 800 years?

[sage temple]

You were wondering what Imu's endgame is in having Harald eat the fruit

[unique lagoon]

my point is with or without the DF or ragnir
herald whos controlled by imu can still make an army

[hoary steppe]

Helo chat

[sage temple]

And it's likely just because Harald needs it for Imu's orders

[brittle basin]

I'm starting to think it's related to the prophecy of the third world and Imu is aware it's coming and is preparing right now.

[sage temple]

Possibly not in the way Imu wants

[tranquil blade]

Which makes sense now because Dragon has started to cut off resources to Mariejois and Joyboy has returned

[muted hedge]

definitely

[stone terrace]

Have your ultra powerful giant soldier become even more powerful

Not rocket science

[brittle basin]

We're getting Prophecy Piece whether we like it or not.

[hoary steppe]

It always been The prophecy

[muted hedge]

given what Gunko said about the giants being the key to victory in the final war

[sage temple]

If Harald wants to eat the fruit, it's because Imu wants him too

[grand flower]

You get more long term control by convincing them to join diplomatically than by force

It just took a long ass time because being so powerful made the giants independent and defiant

[tranquil blade]

Well they didnt have a summoning circle in Elbaf which probably made it hard to take over

[brittle basin]

my point is Imu had 800 years to put one there

[hoary steppe]

The way thy kept nika fruit already showing us that imu trying to prevent The prophecy happening

[unique lagoon]

imu wants an army and a fleet
he can already do that as is

[tranquil blade]

Yeah but Imu would need a king willing to put one there

[brittle basin]

I think this might be a prophecy Imu is aware of somehow and is thus preparing for it finally. It's the only thing that remotely makes sense to me

[tranquil blade]

and Elbaf was almost as closed off to the world as Wano was before Harald became king

[hoary steppe]

This only half of it

[unique lagoon]

it boils down if imu knew about ragnir and the df and its purpose before taking over herald

[brittle basin]

Do we know much about Elbaf's royal line before Harald?

[muted hedge]

the World Government has tried to conquer Elbaph many times, like Shamrock said

[sage temple]

Also about that, it's interesting that when she says this, the camera cuts to Loki.

Could be hinting to something

[tranquil blade]

We know very little except they clearly must not have been as interested in peace as Harald was

[sage temple]

I don't know

[brittle basin]

such a poor excuse to me. it's fucking IMU

the WG could easily conquer Elbaf with Imu alone. he literally just proved it in front of our eyes

in fact. he did it with a proxy

[stone terrace]

Yeah thats why he didnt do it imo

If he needed elbaf he couldve done it any time

And he just did now because he needs it now

[muted hedge]

Imu doesn't want to do the things themselves

[unique lagoon]

basing on these
looks like WG has been trying all this time herald just took the bait finally

[brittle basin]

yeah it has to be because he needs elbaf specifically now

[sage temple]

The previous kings of Elbaph were probably too strong-willed for Imu to capture Elbaph

Since it's an "opportunity" it seems like Imu has been waiting for a chance to take control of Elbaph but wasn't allowed because the kings were too tough

[hoary steppe]

Good point

[stone terrace]

More that harald wouldve built an even stronger elbaf

[brittle basin]

this brings up the question: why a king specifically? Does it have to be royal blood? can no peon be taken control of and write the abyss mark?

[unique lagoon]

cuz the giants reputation of taking over the world back then
so thats enough reason

[hoary steppe]

Elbaf bcome soft cuz harald

[tranquil blade]

I mean the WG could probably topple the 4 emperors within a month if Imu just showed up with a few holy knights and maybe one of the gorosei and went to defeat each emperor one by one but for whatever reason Imu just doesnt want to do that

[lofty fern]

I'm just kinda done withthe "this person will meet this person" whatever, whatever. And while laughtale and the man marked by flames is exciting, Oda's has never been that trustworthy on time, so it could be next year or the year after or even longer

[sage temple]

Not legendary

✅

[lofty fern]

Not sure what you pinged me for?

[sage temple]

Hmm I don't know

[brittle basin]

Build an army? I'm not sure you have to build a giant army. They're giants. they're massive and strong by nature.

[sage temple]

Maybe because of the fact they have conquerors Haki

[sage temple]

You were trying to invalidate the legendary fruit of Elbaph just because Harald's sword was called legendary in TCB

[pulsar path]

Lol Imu trying to recreate redacted anime

[sage temple]

The Viz now proves that wasn't the correct wording

[pulsar path]

Viz be wrong too

All the time

[sage temple]

TCB be wrong too

[lofty fern]

https://tenor.com/view/nobody-cares-nobody-cares-we-dont-care-i-dont-care-gif-22597963

[sage temple]

All the time

[cloud adder]

trust in stephen paul

[brittle basin]

bring meek and feeso and see how they feel about viz this week

[sage temple]

Ignorance is bliss

[pulsar path]

Right so don't gloat one way or the other

[craggy vapor]

ye

[pine scaffold]

Cold line from Harald

[sage temple]

Viz is still more reputable

[unique lagoon]

this line is very interesting
100 shipwright giants can make that fleet

[sage temple]

Which is what's to be trusted until otherwise

[craggy vapor]

I like TCB more tbh

[stone tulip]

I guess but this time he is surprisingly more specific about that person, like the meeting this time would be for two people that never met before and we straight up have confirmation about what next arc is

[sage temple]

Meek himself says legendary wasn't the correct wording either

[pulsar path]

It's kinda not they guess as much as tcb most the time I woulda argue vol releases I would put for stock in

[sage temple]

Meek said legendary wasn't the right wording either

[pulsar path]

Things change in both versions

[sage temple]

So from what I've seen, everything points to Viz being correct

[lofty fern]

It's an adjective. No more, no less. Stephen felt it was so superfluous that he left it off. He didn't put ANY adjective even though there was one in the Japanese

[pulsar path]

Right but what meek was saying isn't what viz did ether

[sage temple]

Or at least the use of "legendary" being wrong

[muted hedge]

i think Imu is just refering to the giants of Elbaph, they're more than capable enough to become a navy core which would rival the Marines

[pulsar path]

Famous was the word meek was using

[sage temple]

Yet Meek himself said Legendary wasn't the correct wording

[sage temple]

Yeah, not legendary

[craggy vapor]

even so, with that blade he slayed many foes and did many haki clashes so it earned being legendary in its own sense over time

[pulsar path]

Right they didn't use that either bro

[tranquil blade]

It's because likely no one else but the king of Elbaf would be able to convince the giants to basically enslave themselves for the WG, sure Imu could just go in and Domi Reverse the entire island but I'm assuming he doesnt want it to be obvious to the world that Elbaf was unwillingly taken over like that

[frigid gulch]

I don’t think Viz should’ve left it out

[sage temple]

Meek wasn't the one translating

Meek said if he was, famous would be correct

[lofty fern]

Yeah and VIZ has NO word, so it really means nothing?

[frigid gulch]

My impression is that it’s a “meito”

A famed sword

[sage temple]

It kind of does that both Viz and Meek don't use the word legendary

Yet you seem so faithful in the use of legendary yourself

[pulsar path]

Viz didn't use famous ether tho maybe you gotta do some research on what translation means

It's not one to one

[craggy vapor]

does it matter if it’s legendary or not tho?

[pulsar path]

It's impossible to put Japanese straight into English

[hoary steppe]

Nope

[muted hedge]

it doesn't matter at all probably

[unique lagoon]

yes true
but im talking about the amount of man power 100 legendary shipwrights can do
imagine the skill

[sage temple]

How come we should bet on legendary but not the plentiful of sources that say otherwise

[frigid gulch]

I mean it could technically still be legendary too but that’s probably a more Elbaf centric thing

[muted hedge]

it's just a sword passed down from Jarul to Harald

[sage temple]

I have and legendary wasn't the correct wording either

[pulsar path]

No one's getting on ethe rim saying I wouldn't say ones right over the other and virtually nothing. Is changed one way or the tier

[lofty fern]

I think so, DR seems to be a last resort for him, because even with what he's doing on Elbaph now, that was him finally just taking things into his own hands because no one was getting it done. They tried, Harald, then Loki, then the kid hostages and finally Imu said "screw it, I'll do it myself!"

[pulsar path]

No your not understanding is Japanese don't have one to one words to English so you have to make things for

Fit

[sage temple]

It kind of does since Heart was trying to disput the worth of the word legendary as if it's definitive

Since according to you, maybe we don't know

[pulsar path]

Well take that up with them not me

[unique lagoon]

whats the relevance of herald having a legendary sword again?
where is that leading to? whats the point

[sage temple]

Well you inserted yourself in the conversation which is the only reason I mentioned that to you

[muted hedge]

there's no relevance other than proving a point

[hoary steppe]

[pulsar path]

I just wouldnt take anything non Japanese as straight fact

[lofty fern]

Soc has this obsession with the word "legendary" because supposedly it make Loki super special

[unique lagoon]

eh

[stone tulip]

Also @sage temple @ashen perch btw the more I think about that the more I realize the whole “two people never met before will finally meet” might be about Mosa and Loki cause how it was stated in beginning of the arc, this may suggest that Mosa is actually on their way to Elbaf if that’s the case.

[sage temple]

Yet Meek and Viz say Legendary isn't the correct word to be used

[unique lagoon]

i guess it could be another supreme grade sword

[hoary steppe]

Its lily and imu

But i cant proof it yet

[sage temple]

So Harald calling the sword legendary in TCB shouldn't be used as reference

[pulsar path]

Mosa said they were in danger so something is going on in fishmen island

[craggy vapor]

From now on, I’m gonna write everyone’s name who spelled Harald wrong to toilet paper and use it.

[sage temple]

It doesn't dispute the word usage of legendary at all since we don't know what type of adjective should actually be used

[hoary steppe]

Harold

[muted hedge]

why would she be on the way to Elbaph?

[sage temple]

According to Illmatic

[brittle basin]

A few hundred years ago they would've been far more ripe as a powerful force to enslave for military use. So I'm left curious why not take them over then for continued personal use. I want to doubt they could resist Imu. Rocks was flipped without a second thought, for example, despite his great power and openly defying Imu to their face. And I don't know what communications tech existed back then to allow the world to find out about the giants being domi reversi'd (Morgans' organization is very new).

[lofty fern]

Yay, Shirahoshi and Loki!

[hoary steppe]

Ew

[pulsar path]

It's either her or her father

[sage temple]

Yeah it really seems like Mosa and Loki are the ones Oda is talking about

[lofty fern]

Yeah, though why would Shira be going to Elbaph? She told Loki she couldn't contact him for a while. Why not just tell him that she's coming to see him?

[sage temple]

I hope we get to see them meet

Does that mean Elbaph may end this year?

Arsal the theory might be cooked

[unique lagoon]

world destroying DF + World destroying ancient weapon

[lofty fern]

Haven't they said the voice is that of a nervous unsure female. Why would Neptune sound anything like that?

[sage temple]

[pulsar path]

Who said that

[lofty fern]

I think Artur

[pulsar path]

What was the context

[prisma idol]

Its from the Japanese community and we know about it from Artur

[ashen rose]

Loki is still twice her size btw

[lofty fern]

Actually, all of them have said it sounds like a nervous female

[prisma idol]

Manner of speech is delicate iirc

[pulsar path]

Them?

[craggy vapor]

Mosa is Shirahoshi!

?

[unique lagoon]

that guy

[stone tulip]

You mean Vivi and Imu ?

[pulsar path]

I mean did I not say it was ether her or her father wtf

[hoary steppe]

Yep

[tranquil blade]

I think the idea is the WG wants to dominate the world, but in a way where they dont have to expose that the world government is basically ruled by a demonic cabal to everyone, and an army of demonic looking giants being weapons for the government may expose that. Could be the reason that Imu waited until he had to before taking over Elbaf

[strong wadi]

my first thought after reading it was also vivi and imu

[lofty fern]

Eh, hard to tell until they're next to each other.

[strong wadi]

but that's also cause im looking at the context of the story and that pair fits elbaf the best

[tranquil blade]

Basically I just dont think they want the world to know the government is basically ran by satan, causing everyone to panic

[lofty fern]

Neptune is no way sounds delicate

[pulsar path]

Yeah but things can change

[craggy vapor]

What was Mrs Wednesday’s special ability?

[hoary steppe]

What

[ashen rose]

Although size was always inconsistent in one piece so who knows

[hoary steppe]

Isnt oars bigger

[lofty fern]

We literally just saw him not that long ago

[stone tulip]

They didn’t exactly say they are in danger but rather they told Loki they won’t call him for a while cause “they have their hands full”

[ashen rose]

Nope

[pine scaffold]

Harald upscale

[hoary steppe]

How u got loki scale

[lofty fern]

Hard to say, since Loki's about the same size as Jarul here

[ashen rose]

Google

[hoary steppe]

Bruh

[pine scaffold]

Scarred the legendary mountain eater

Scopper Gaban

[stone terrace]

What the fuck do you mean upscale

[pulsar path]

What was loki reaction after this " is everything okay " because that's abnormal

[stone tulip]

Could be holy knights related cause of “nasty business” Loki mentioned and we don’t know the full picture between the two

[stone terrace]

You cant upscale against someone weaker than you

[tranquil blade]

The only idea of scale we have is Zoro saying he's as big as Oars

[strong wadi]

Scarring EoS Sanji level opponent, Zoro fans are so cooked

[muted hedge]

i don't know, i feel like they're pretty busy on Marijoa

[hoary steppe]

Mmmehh i think oars bigger idk

[brittle basin]

I'll give you points for the horned giants looking weird. We're probably still going to agree to disagree to some extent though. 'cause for some reason they're clearly OK with the giants looking demonic with Morgans organization being around today. Now, you could be right on why historically Imu chose not to bother with Elbaf; this leaves me to think it's because of the prophecy. I can't figure out any other reason to wait until now to flip them all into an army.

[sage temple]

[pine scaffold]

well

Idc its a feat

Harald W

[stone tulip]

Don’t think it Shirahoshi cause of inconsistency

[frozen aspen]

ok I finally read official release, Jarul is definitely lying about not remembering what happened in the castle

[stone tulip]

We don’t even know about that tbh

[unique lagoon]

meanwhile

[muted hedge]

it seemed to be pretty urgent given Shamrock was sent back

[frozen aspen]

he is 100% conscious

[stone tulip]

He definitely panicked cause Mosa may about to do something drastic

[hoary steppe]

I wonder…

[unique lagoon]

oda did it again
confusing readers

[craggy vapor]

wait, I’m larger than Luffy?

[frozen aspen]

oda forgot

[tranquil blade]

Well yeah I think Imu just doesnt care anymore about the government looking bad, because to him things have gotten bad enough that the exposure of the true nature of the WG is worth it if it means Imu can guarantee victory in the upcoming war.

[stone tulip]

I meant Mosa’s connection to all of this and maybe they too have some ties with Imu ?

[ashen rose]

TALLER, IT'S TALLER

[brittle basin]

I thought some general consensus was that either Oda screwed up or they're all lying to protect Harald's legacy.

[frozen aspen]

is that really so suprising

luffy is tiny

compared to everyone else

[ashen rose]

Also yeah I'm almost taller than Luffy also

[brittle basin]

I think it's all worth it to see Imu go scorched earth policy.

[ashen rose]

1,70 is not tiny

[craggy vapor]

make me say it if you can

[frozen aspen]

the average dude in one piece is 3m tall

[stone terrace]

-guy who is 170

[prisma yacht]

Did anyone watch today's episode?

[brittle basin]

Now do Sanjuan

[ashen rose]

Yeah if we're talking one piece world then yeah he's miniscule

[frozen aspen]

Luffy would be the average in japan maybe

[tranquil blade]

Imu is probably banking on another void century situation; where he wipes out his enemies and erases all records of it from history, but of course Imu cant win this time for obvious reasons

[lofty fern]

"Gaban! The umbilical cord is caught around the baby's throat. We need you to go in there and cut it. Can you do that?"
"Of course, Let me get my axes!"
😓

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/hayao-miyazaki-anime-mistake-otaku-weeaboo-gif-9307885

[leaden rivet]

5 5 is the shorter end of a man I think

Unless you’re like East Asian

[ashen rose]

Still in growing phase, gonna surpass 1,80 soon, hopefully

[prisma yacht]

So it was no good?

[craggy vapor]

Loki could use Kaido as a football

[leaden rivet]

People always say this

You may just stay that height forever

[stone terrace]

Im actually sorry if i triggered an insecurity

[stone tulip]

I mean obviously something was off about Loki’s situation so they are definitely lying

[leaden rivet]

Don’t be sorry, be better.

[brittle basin]

I think Imu is also aware the world is flooding? I wonder if they intend for only Marijoa to exist when all is said and done? Not sure how that logistically works but I didn't think that far into it.

[ashen rose]

Is everyone here in Brazil tiny then? 1,70 is considered tall

[pine scaffold]

Harald could too

[ashen rose]

I'm taller than most people my age

[pine scaffold]

Harald and Loki same height

[leaden rivet]

170 cm right?

[stone terrace]

Yeah south americans are on the shorter end i do believe

[leaden rivet]

Thats 5’7

[strong wadi]

I'm like the shortest person in my class at 175cm

[hoary steppe]

Imu aware of it, the gigantic bridge , mariejois up high

[craggy vapor]

Rocks too

[strong wadi]

it's 5'5.7

[ashen rose]

Loki could use dragon form Kaido as a jump rope

[leaden rivet]

The average height of a Brazilian man is 5 9

[brittle basin]

Oh shit I forgot about Tequila Wolf.

good catch

[pine scaffold]

Harald can as well

[stone tulip]

The way Luffy interacted to Loki is a hint that something was off

[ashen rose]

Are you studying with giants bro?

[hoary steppe]

Oh it has a name

[tranquil blade]

Yeah I dont really get Imu's plan at all either tbh. If all the people who serve the WG die and it's just the celestial dragons and the few places that can get to higher ground left, then what will the WG even rule after all is said and done?

[brittle basin]

King of the Ashes.

[hoary steppe]

The world ?

[leaden rivet]

Adam are you white

I mean, are you American sorry not white

[unique lagoon]

dint gunko already did a long monolog about flooding the world again

[brittle basin]

Adam is blue

[stone tulip]

Considering how there is implication about Imu being sea devil may have confirmed not just he is aware of the flood but is the one who caused on purpose in the first place

[tranquil blade]

Yeah but if everyone's dead who are you really ruling?

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/tobias-funke-david-cross-blue-myself-arrested-development-face-palm-gif-3567424

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/mean-girls-karen-white-ask-gif-5661579

[tranquil blade]

You're basically the king of nothing

[brittle basin]

Icon....are you gulps French by any chance?

[hoary steppe]

The cd’s is his minion , like hes literal god

[pine scaffold]

I'm 6ft 7

[leaden rivet]

Our AI says different things

[ashen rose]

Luffy really is Brazilian

[lofty fern]

I think it's more of a repopulate the earth with our own image kind of thing. And don't worry, it doesn't matter who it is, there will always be a class system and people serving others

[craggy vapor]

Imu will lower water levels after everyone dies and reproduce a new civilization to rule over

[strong wadi]

There are like 6 guys over 195cm/6'4 but i'd say most people are in the 182-185cm/5'10-6'0 range

[stone terrace]

I dont even know where france is

[hoary steppe]

Why france

[ashen rose]

They stole half life 3

[craggy vapor]

average murican moment

[hoary steppe]

That god damn bastard

[lofty fern]

Across from England

[strong wadi]

Pacifista/seraphim slaves

[frozen aspen]

the later is more likely. Which would be really ironic coming from Loki. He spend the last cpl of decades looking down on Harald for his pacifists ideals but in the end he's willing to take the blame to protect his image and everything he has built

[brittle basin]

This reminds me of this Full Metal Jacket joke lol

[stone tulip]

@grand flower thoughts ?

[leaden rivet]

That’s literally where you were born

Oui oui

[stone tulip]

Yeah that makes sense the most just to spare Harald’s reputation from being ruined.

[brittle basin]

A true, red-blooded American. 🫡

[tranquil blade]

All of the people who were smart enough to even make them are kinda dead though, so like either way it's kinda over. Imu basically has to recreate civilization again even if he were to win

[frozen aspen]

and ppl still wanna tell me Loki is evil bc he acted out as a literal child lmao

[strong wadi]

York over here like...

[hoary steppe]

What

[sage temple]

Vegapunk clone

[tranquil blade]

I did admittedly forget about York but she isnt gonna live forever

[sage temple]

This shit pisses me off the most ngl

[unique lagoon]

i like the idea that imus body is stuck in pangea castle

[strong wadi]

She's a robot

[stone terrace]

Loki being wrongfully imprisoned for 6 years has earned a crash out icl

[sage temple]

Loki destroys a village a few times 50 years ago and he's somehow evil

[strong wadi]

And probably a robot that can keep transferring consciousness to more and more upgraded forms

[hoary steppe]

Bro

[sage temple]

People act like he's stagnant and doesn't change

[hoary steppe]

Hes destroying his mom killer houses

[sage temple]

I'm not gonna name names but they know who they are

[hoary steppe]

Blud aint evil at all

[pine scaffold]

people think xebec is evil lmao

[unique lagoon]

i think loki will always be an edgy asshole

[pine scaffold]

like they STILL think hes evil

[hoary steppe]

He is evil

[pine scaffold]

here we go

[pulsar path]

People don't know what evil is

[unique lagoon]

not evil just an asshole

[pulsar path]

Evil is like killing kittens

[hoary steppe]

Thats satan

[frozen aspen]

there were a lot of ppl who'd pretend that Loki didn't grow a s a person since his childhood and that he is still the same destructive child he was at like 5. Like yeah obviously he still got his issues but he is gree a s a person. He is willing to take the blame for what happened wven though he despises the Elbaf Harald built

[hoary steppe]

No no, i read ur prev comment as Sa 😭 like wut

[unique lagoon]

im not sure if loki and law has the same personality

[pulsar path]

Kicking a kitten your just a piece of shit lol

[frozen aspen]

typo on my part

[hoary steppe]

Oky

[frozen aspen]

i meant as a

SB thinks beating little children isn't evil

[unique lagoon]

maybe loki has more warrior honor bit

[hoary steppe]

Law is soft bruh

[strong wadi]

I mean if you consider allowing slavery under your watch "profoundly immoral" then yeah, he's evil.

But being evil doesn't mean he doesn't have some good qualities.

[frozen aspen]

[unique lagoon]

soft how?

[frozen aspen]

Law is actually evil

[hoary steppe]

It wasnt that bad, but idk

[unique lagoon]

laws backstory is a lie
he made it up

[frozen aspen]

he made up his whole backstory just to take down doflamingo and destroy Dressrosa

😔

[unique lagoon]

🤝

[hoary steppe]

Duhhh

[unique lagoon]

both loki and law has a toughguy exterior while also being kind

tho loki is more outspoken with his asshole ways

[lofty fern]

In what way?

[pine scaffold]

Rocks dont got slaves

??

[hoary steppe]

I think law wouldn’t kill, but loki straight up destroy ur entire people

[frozen aspen]

u gotta read up

[unique lagoon]

oh you mean law wont kill an entire village

[frozen aspen]

lol

[brittle basin]

Anything for Ida.

[lofty fern]

Oh Law totally would kill

[frozen aspen]

they probably deserved it

[stone terrace]

I mean

Law started out wanting to like kill everyone

Super angsty

[hoary steppe]

No like

Remember when hes become schibukai?

He just stole those pirate heart, not the head

[unique lagoon]

ngl law looked like a guy to kill anyone to get revenge on doffy

[stone terrace]

He changed for the better but i doubt he'd be above that

[unique lagoon]

guy was on a war path

[hoary steppe]

He stole 100 pirates heart, they’re still alive btw

[stone terrace]

Change corazon from doffy killing him to a village doing it

[lofty fern]

Law is someone I can see would do whatever he needs to do to get his goals

[craggy vapor]

Law should’ve be the one to finish Doffy off

[hoary steppe]

Bros weak

😭

[unique lagoon]

maybe loki is more kidd type

[hoary steppe]

Yeaaa

[lofty fern]

Sure, he's not a mass murderer, but if he was pushed, he's kill someone

[hoary steppe]

Oh for sure

[lofty fern]

Especially if it was to protect his own

Law and Sabo always feel similar to me, though Law is more stoic

[hoary steppe]

Sabo is just ace but calmer

[stone terrace]

Less daddy issues

[hoary steppe]

[unique lagoon]

not wrong ace has major daddy issue

[lofty fern]

Sabo's more crazy than Ace, in a creepy silent way

He's also smarter which makes him more dangerous

[craggy vapor]

Sabo would’ve killed BB in Ace’ sted

[lofty fern]

Oh he would

[brittle basin]

He has no issues now.

[hoary steppe]

[lofty fern]

Though I think Ace would too

[hoary steppe]

Bb didnt kill ace

[brittle basin]

he kind of aided in it

[hoary steppe]

Well

[unique lagoon]

its still happening

[iron oriole]

BB indirectly killed Ace by essentially putting him on death row

[hoary steppe]

Blud

Ace was free

😭

[stone terrace]

Sabo completely forsook his lineage while ace was haunted by it

[craggy vapor]

ace is too soft. Sabo would make short work of BB before he gets the chance to use yami

[unique lagoon]

ice died still hating roger

to fixing that issue

[iron oriole]

Sure...

[frozen aspen]

tbf sabo did probably have daddy issues as a kid but the amnesia made him forget

[lofty fern]

Sabo had no DF so he's used to not using it. Ace kinda relied on his too much. But BB threatened Luffy. Both Ace and Sabo would kill him

[hoary steppe]

Dont blame bb for ace death smh

[frozen aspen]

also his father was some minor rich guy in east blue ignoring his existence is easier than fucking rogers lol

Bb is the catalyst for a lot of bad things though

[craggy vapor]

Ace killed Ace

[lofty fern]

Also, I'm now 99% sure Sabo is going to fight Akainu in the end

[hoary steppe]

Exactly !

Marineford plan was succesful

[lofty fern]

Eh, he had help

[frozen aspen]

Akainu is too weak for luffy

[unique lagoon]

im an ace hater

[iron oriole]

True but Admiral fans don't want to have the convo

[frozen aspen]

sorry admiral fans your goat is not important enough for luffy to fight anymore he got bigger fish to fry

[stone terrace]

Ace chased after bb who wanted nothing to do with him

Bb then gracefully gave him a chance at life by turning him over

[craggy vapor]

Sabo got no chance unless he upgrades to blue flames

[stone terrace]

And then he threw it away anyway

😭

[unique lagoon]

could have just ran bro

just saying you bum

[hoary steppe]

Bb didnt kill him instead, bro got schibukai , business man

[frozen aspen]

bb killed his own crewmate lets not give that guy excuses

[hoary steppe]

I mean i didnt excuse that one 🗿

[strong wadi]

True, i confused him with blackbeard. I'd argue this is evil enough though, but you'll probably say all those places deserved it somehow

[hoary steppe]

What the hell even article 18

[unique lagoon]

WB approved ace hunting BB right?

[stone terrace]

No

[craggy vapor]

tbh Thatch deserved it

[hoary steppe]

Hes not

[unique lagoon]

oh he dint? im mis remembering then
cuz he dint care for shanks warning

[frozen aspen]

he also went and trashed the revs headquarters. Yeah Ace can be a hotheaded idiot but we shouldn't write bb involvement in marineford of bc of that. Keep in mind that bb originally wanted to give the WG luffy for that Warlord spot

[iron oriole]

Tbf... if the M Bezel group island was anything to go by, they're probably not all good/innocent

[stone terrace]

He didnt want ace to go but he wasnt gonna have anyone telling him how to run his crew

[tranquil blade]

He told Ace he had a bad feeling about it and to let it go

[distant vine]

Did you consider Luffy deserved that

[unique lagoon]

damn could have pulled rank on ace then

[distant vine]

Worked out really well for him

[frozen aspen]

no I haven't y r right

[hoary steppe]

*son

[frozen aspen]

should have caught luffy instead and gotten him executed

[hoary steppe]

Son sins is the father to blame

[stone terrace]

His one flaw besides abandoning xebec

[lofty fern]

[tranquil blade]

Ace probably would've sneaked off ship anyways

[distant vine]

Shanks tried to advise both WB and Harald but nobody listens smh

[hoary steppe]

Lmaooo

[thick mango]

Shanks do be giving petty good advice

[hoary steppe]

But hes too late on harald

Bum ass

[shadow knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/chrollo-lucilfer-chrollo-lucilfer-1999-hxh-gif-16928957668416418915

[frozen aspen]

these old men think they are tough shit and immediately die as a result of their ignorance

[strong wadi]

shanks never got the chance to advise him, actually

[distant vine]

Im still unclear on how much he told Harald

[pine scaffold]

it's interesting how Oda shows one of these instances being a corrupt place

[craggy vapor]

I’m sorry y’all I was paid off by @lofty fern to post this.

[pine scaffold]

so I mean idk

[lofty fern]

Uh, Shanks was super later in both instances

[unique lagoon]

i mean ace listened to WB when he wanted to invaded Wano
but i guess thats in different context

[hoary steppe]

Yeah

[shadow knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-bite-kitten-bite-paw-paw-bite-eepy-kitten-kitten-yawn-gif-26965510

[hoary steppe]

Lowky shanks always too late

Except aura farming

[frozen aspen]

he didn't get the chance to tell him too much I think. Harald was foolish to accept but he was admittedly not aware of the Imu can take over his will part

[unique lagoon]

he really annoyed the old man here

[stone terrace]

Ace needed an acoc belt whooping

[lofty fern]

https://tenor.com/view/leave-me-out-nope-no-leave-me-john-wayne-gif-17680511

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/john-cena-belt-john-cena-belt-gif-4903678367962176266

[steel stirrup]

BELT TO ASS

[glacial bear]

Lmaoo

[unique lagoon]

you see the angry veins popping

[frozen aspen]

I genuinely think ppl gotta stop glossing over the fact that Ace going after BB helped luffy

[steel stirrup]

That doesnt sound like Irene

"Thatch deserved it"

That sounds like something I would say tho

[stone terrace]

I mean it did but that wasnt his intent

[frozen aspen]

Bb literally says he was after Luffy's bounty in order to become a warlord

[tranquil blade]

I mean yeah if it wasnt Ace it would be Luffy dying

[stone terrace]

It just was circumstance

[lofty fern]

Indeed, She is WAY too small in that picture

[hoary steppe]

Wut when

[frozen aspen]

well yeah maybe it wasn't intentional

[hoary steppe]

Jaya?

[steel stirrup]

Either way niggas' days are numbered

[frozen aspen]

but in the end it helps luffy so

[unique lagoon]

oda used ace to luck out luffy 😔
luck tool

[lofty fern]

They revealed that in Dressrosa I think

[hoary steppe]

Yeah jaya

[hoary steppe]

Uhm

[frozen aspen]

When Ace finally confronts BB and they talk. Bb says that he was originally going to waterseven to get luffys bounty

[craggy vapor]

Irene paid you off to pay me off to post this

[hoary steppe]

Bb want to go to water7?

[frozen aspen]

also yeah he tries to go after luffy in Java as well

[lofty fern]

https://tenor.com/view/aladdin-genie-al-what-are-you-doing-why-are-you-bringing-me-into-this-gif-6859073406971211980

[frozen aspen]

yeah he wanted to go after luffy and his crew

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-minecraft-menu-menu-minecraft-minecraft-121-minecraft-1218-gif-15532629258152953914

[unique lagoon]

BBs ship got owned by the water

dumbass

[hoary steppe]

Ehh

Good thing its ace

[unique lagoon]

should write on his grave
"hot headed idiot"

[frozen aspen]

It wasn't ace intention to help luffy but he did

[craggy vapor]

That was gangsta

[tranquil blade]

[frigid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-joyboy-haki-monkey-d-luffy-joyboy-supreme-haki-gif-11723934246479876182

[sage temple]

[olive sigil]

💧

[pine scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twitter-monkey-sad-depressed-bored-gif-14632661802414689947

[distant vine]

That doesnt make sense to me

They should have had all the time to chat

[unique lagoon]

only could mean shanks was late knowing that info

again

[distant vine]

Unless Shanks learned later I guess

[olive sigil]

Why is Luffy sad?

[unique lagoon]

tag shanks as
late man

he really is the next gen roger
also late

wait thats wrong roger was too early

[distant vine]

Its so funny to me that Kizaru fans hypebeasted off the "Someone strong is coming!" panel

[olive sigil]

@shanks

Did it work?

[unique lagoon]

they dint consider depressed kizaru

[distant vine]

These desperate kids scramble for anything as soon as Shanks gets some screentime 😂

[cloud adder]

theyre half right because shanks actually has a supply of his own haki knots to distribute to crew, allies, etc

[sage temple]

Cool coloring

[cloud adder]

they did the horns wrong

[distant vine]

Socrates ass post

[craggy vapor]

this moment was so epic in the anime and then the scratched “to be continued”. Peak

[distant vine]

R/OPPowerscaling is funny

[proud pivot]

loki was nerfed so he doesnt one shot imu

[craggy vapor]

Doesn’t Oda do it all the time with top characters?

[blazing depot]

Imu is NOT next generation 😭

[distant vine]

You know after all this

[steel stirrup]

Lmaoooo

[distant vine]

Maybe the Revos do have a shot vs HK's

[vale heath]

I think Imu just looks like that

[steel stirrup]

Nigga the Grand Fleet could handle these mfs

[distant vine]

Dawg they were calling Garling the "Strongest Man Available" in the powerscaling sub

😭

[gloomy tree]

WG takes this picture as proof that it was Sham who talked to the Gorosei

[glacial bear]

https://x.com/sandman_ap/status/2002814788175565051?s=61

sandman (@sandman_AP)

The following 2 male sketches by Oda seems to depict the true face of Imu !!🔥🔥 This is because he says:“The crime of the young queen who unleashed the Poneglyphs upon the world! On that day, she betrayed us. Alabasta’s sin was allowing words to be left for the future!!”🌏

X · Dec 21, 2025, 6:53 PM

Is this real

[muted hedge]

maybe

[glacial bear]

Hmm this sorta makes me think of Nico Robin because of the nose

[muted hedge]

reminds me of Enel oddly enough

[tranquil blade]

I mean it's sandman so I'm already suspicious

[glacial bear]

If one throws water at sandman, won’t he become a mudman

[vale heath]

https://x.com/sandman_AP/status/1937321823181648078

sandman (@sandman_AP)

Imu, who might be the final villain in One Piece, has been spotted in a Japanese arcade. Words fail to describe the scene.😭😭

X · Jun 24, 2025, 1:28 AM

[craggy vapor]

I thought this was someone but it’s just Garling’s coat

[prisma yacht]

you really want eneL to come back

[muted hedge]

i do

[grand flower]

Dodge lmao

[grand flower]

“Words fail to describe the scene I just described rather succinctly”

[vale heath]

Another sandman L

Very common

[distant vine]

Bro really is a Vermicious Knid

[lofty fern]

Hasn't he been in a bunch of those things? lol

[grand flower]

Yeah I'm with you there

It's either Loki/Shaggy, Vivi/Sabo or Luffy/Dragon

I'm hoping for Luffy/Dragon most

[lofty fern]

fascinating, I like the eyebrows at least

[vale heath]

I can’t believe that Oda stated two characters who never met will meet

This doesn’t happen literally every arc!!!

[trim lily]

pizarro and woop slap will finally meet next year

[muted hedge]

has to be Zeff and Kureha

[distant vine]

Whats crazy is he would do this and immediately get slammed by Law in this scenario

[muted hedge]

what even is that image

[lofty fern]

Foolish mortal, Imu is every generation

[vale heath]

This happened in DBS I think

[blazing depot]

Guys was Imu a girlboss

[trim lily]

imu does gaslight and gatekeep

[distant vine]

Found a new Shanks hype image

[muted hedge]

has we had anyone in One Piece who use a sword and shield?

[urban lodge]

Dorry

[muted hedge]

doesn't he wield an axe?

[prisma yacht]

Also

[steel stirrup]

Thats Broggy

[prisma yacht]

Don kreig

[muted hedge]

ah

https://tenor.com/view/thriller-bark-silver-axe-one-piece-silver-axe-one-piece-kyo-gif-12130598943274448522

i wish we had more who wore proper knight like armor

Gan Fall looks so sick

[steel stirrup]

You dont like the HK armor?

[glacial bear]

Ganfal’s action figure is pretty cool

[muted hedge]

i do, but i mean more medieval knight armor

[tranquil blade]

I mean it's a cool outfit but it's not really armor

[muted hedge]

the holy knights wear more modern types of armor

look at how hard these medieval knight outfits go

[tranquil blade]

The Gods Knights wear more like a ceremonial type of outfit, definitely fitting for their noble status though

[prisma yacht]

Yeah

And gunko

Well nvm

[vital heart]

Holy shit hey guys

Imu’s face got revealed

[prisma yacht]

Hey meek

[vital heart]

Anyone else see that sandman tweet

[prisma yacht]

Yeah

[tranquil blade]

It's sandman I dont trust it

[vital heart]

The text is translated right tho

Who else could that be

[muted hedge]

the Holy Knights are more 18th century

while the armor i was refering to, is 12th century

[tranquil blade]

Well yeah they actually had pants by the 18th century, and it does more like royal outfits of that time

[glacial bear]

Ye @vital heart

[muted hedge]

a lot of tailcoats as well

[lofty fern]

If that's him, its totally a guy

[lofty fern]

Meeks

[glacial bear]

I’m convinced Imu needs a queen of the world as his bride since he’s pretty lonely at the top

For 800 years haha what a sap

[final trench]

Perhaps

[muted hedge]

i don't think that Imu wants anyone by their side, at least not as an equal

[pine scaffold]

https://x.com/DawnStussy/status/2002764226771976290

Stussy Sama - Dawn&Dusk (@DawnStussy)

Could this be a hint about “Imu’s face”?

ポーネグリフを世界へ解き放った罪。
The crime of releasing the Poneglyphs to the world.

“あの日”裏切ったんだ。
She betrayed us THAT DAY

X · Dec 21, 2025, 3:32 PM

[stone tulip]

Another option it’s Imu related with either Luffy meeting him for first time or it’s Vivi when she shows up on Elbaf, it could be anyone really.

[pine scaffold]

Imu is actually revealed lmao

[muted hedge]

i wouldn't say that is the same as being revealed

[glacial bear]

Ya @pine scaffold

[muted hedge]

it's for sure a nudge in the right direction though

[pine scaffold]

idk how to feel about their design

[glacial bear]

Yeah looks like a sketch

Well I mean it is lol

But like- not 100% set in stone

[muted hedge]

yeah, for all we know it could be scrapped

[pine scaffold]

I think the design is okay

[muted hedge]

not much of a design, lol

[final trench]

Mordred type beat

[stone tulip]

Vivi ????

[pine scaffold]

yeah and wapol below

and then theres some designs of Imu

[stone tulip]

What is it saying tho ?

[pine scaffold]

its talking about the crimes of the poneglyphs being spread

and Imu says ''SHE BETRAYED US THAT DAY!''

[muted hedge]

it's probably Lili

though who knows, she is identical to Vivi

what does this text say?

[fast pagoda]

Looks like garling

[stone tulip]

@vital heart translate please

[stone tulip]

Maybe but I wonder

[muted hedge]

wait, isn't that just this guy

[vital heart]

Talks about cobra and wapol and how wapol saw cobra gettig killed and all that

[stone tulip]

We also see Wapol too

[steel stirrup]

Shanks vs Blackbeard just dropped

[fast pagoda]

Oda admitting hes going at a fast pace is nice but

I wish we had this Oda during Wano and Dressrosa

[final trench]

#nextarc 🤫

[stone tulip]

What about this part

[muted hedge]

ah ok

[stone tulip]

That’s Chaka

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/tony-soprano-sopranos-soprano-noiatwt-minions-engraçados-gif-8461420720252983033

[muted hedge]

yeah, it looks almost identical to the one i posted

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-james-lebron-champ-lebrom-lebron-cigar-gif-18776667

[muted hedge]

the one here looks like Chaka

[fast pagoda]

I always predicted Imu woukld be an adrogynous man with a buddha like face

[stone tulip]

definitely emphasize more about releasing poneglphy which may hinge on why Imu wants Vivi and it also seems to treat it as generational sin here.

[tough dust]

2026 lodestar is real

[vital heart]

Youngest queen on the left. Alabasta queen on tje right

I think

[glacial bear]

I’d love that

[stone tulip]

So it’s Lili ?

[glacial bear]

We need more androgynous villains imo

Like HIM from Powerpuff girls

[urban lodge]

Could the Chaka looking guy be Lily's brother who took over after she disappeared?

[muted hedge]

good thinking, maybe

[stone tulip]

Found this too https://x.com/dawnstussy/status/2002760116077224431?s=46

Stussy Sama - Dawn&Dusk (@DawnStussy)

🚨It turns out that on top of the Red Line, there’s an area known as the
“Red Desert”🏜️

【Translated by a Japanese Native Speaker 】
In front of the Holy Land, you can see manicured forests, waterways, and Pangaea Castle rising up in the center. And that label, “Red Desert,” is

X · Dec 21, 2025, 3:16 PM

[glacial bear]

Could be

Ooo

And Alabasta was like a desert kingdom

HMMMM

[stone tulip]

That might be just Chaka maybe

[urban lodge]

Yeah maybe it's just him

[prisma yacht]

Who was chaka

[muted hedge]

i wonder if Imu will look like the face of Arc Maxim

[glacial bear]

One of the Alabasta guards

[prisma yacht]

Ohh

Yeah

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-chaka-chaka-one-piece-cobra-cobra-one-piece-gif-11943579268210864268

[stone tulip]

One of head guards

[prisma yacht]

yeahhh I remember now

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/pell-pell-one-piece-chaka-chaka-one-piece-door-gif-1393607842676348869

[glacial bear]

OOOO MAYBE

[distant vine]

Did Oda draw for Jump Festa?

[stone tulip]

Yeah there is more to mariejose than that apparently

[glacial bear]

Honestly I wouldn’t mind Imu being scary looking

Like cool ugly

[runic dock]

https://youtu.be/azibyMmVdu0?si=F8svOje87dMaTiXQ

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-imu-imu-one-piece-world-government-crown-gif-11226116781559785824

[muted hedge]

the type of design which Enel has, would be perfect for Imu in my opinion

[distant vine]

Gunko and Shamrock walk to Imu post Elbaph and his full reveal looks like this:

https://youtu.be/ZBJyNU_YlpY?si=dkeIqoI2IitfaHQc

[glacial bear]

LMFAO

[royal orchid]

https://fixupx.com/sandman_AP/status/2002816190570508397?t=ifP3KztNXMBzFaE5HDyloQ&s=19

sandman (@sandman_AP)

This is an illustration of the full view of Mary Geoise drawn by Oda. What stands out is the “Red Desert” written in the upper left.🤔🤔

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FixupX · Dec 21, 2025, 6:59 PM

[prisma yacht]

Wkw

Wow

[royal orchid]

I was actually hoping for a little diagram like this from oda for a little while now

[glacial bear]

So that’s how the original homeland looked for the Lunarians. It was just plain desert

[stone tulip]

I do wonder where did they even get that from

[glacial bear]

Probably slave labor

[muted hedge]

maybe before the first flood the whole world was just a giant desert

[distant vine]

"Listen Gunko, I know we're in a pact with this guy and everything, but he's obviously a lost cause. Why don't we pretend to go on a mission and try to join up with the Revolutionary Army?"

[glacial bear]

There’s a long river. That leads down the red line like a waterfall. Could that be potentially how a one piece villain with a DF dies?

maybe BB drowns idk. But that’s a cool way of drowning

[distant vine]

That would be kinda funny tho. After Imu finishes aura farming about being all powerful he goes back to his room and sulks in self hatred

[runic dock]

Oda has no balls , i better see a df user explode from trying to eat two fruits and a user drown , by the end of the series

[royal orchid]

goes to flower room
aura farms in flower room
walks around
goes to empty throne
sits on empty throne
aura farms on empty throne

[glacial bear]

Imu cries over killing Saturn lol

[muted hedge]

i don't think Imu cares about anyone but themselves

[hazy echo]

https://x.com/wsj_manga/status/2002827277437108349?s=46

Shonen Jump News (@WSJ_manga)

Weekly Shonen Jump March 2026 Volume List.

· ONE PIECE 114
· SAKAMOTO DAYS 26
· WITCH WATCH 25
· The Elusive Samurai 24
· Hima-Ten! 8
· Ichi the Witch 7
· Ruri Dragon 5
· Harukaze Mound 3
· Jujutsu Kaisen Modulo 2
· Someone Hertz 2
· Gonron Egg 1

X · Dec 21, 2025, 7:43 PM

[fast pagoda]

I did think Imu would be younger though

[distant vine]

"Man if I wasn't such a loser I'd get some useful minions weeps "

[hazy echo]

Next volume in March

[fast pagoda]

I thought he would be around Luffy's age

In physical appearance

[royal orchid]

march 2026 for 114?

[hazy echo]

Yea

[craggy vapor]

red desert huh

[royal orchid]

damn I'll be dead by then

too long

[muted hedge]

we haven't seen their appearance

[vale heath]

I’d imagine red desert just refers to the non-developed areas of the red line

[hazy echo]

You doing ok

[royal orchid]

yeah just the rest of it

interesting to me is how it's completely empty behind the Pangea castle

[frozen aspen]

red desert is probably where lunarians used to live

[glacial bear]

Red hair shanks upscale

[vale heath]

I’d imagine it didn’t use to be desert, if I had to make my stake

[glacial bear]

Film Red: The Desert

[royal orchid]

the whole structure of marijoa is the castle, underneath it and in front of it
behind it is red dry death

[frozen aspen]

CDs turning it into a wasteland is also a possibility and fitting

[glacial bear]

I want to see the red sand

Red desert sounds cool

Also- possible Sir Crocodile upscale?

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/crocodile-one-piece-gif-21581409

Red ESPADAAAAA

[fast pagoda]

I think that the red line and elbaph had beef

[stone tulip]

@vital heart found the source https://x.com/wsj_manga/status/2002758750457962786?s=46

Shonen Jump News (@WSJ_manga)

ONE PIECE Mini Magazine - Legend & Next included in Issue #4/5.

X · Dec 21, 2025, 3:11 PM

[royal orchid]

crocodile and morley would obliterate marijoa in minutes if left unattended

[craggy vapor]

nah I think as others pointed out Red Desert is just the red rock floor of Red Line without anything on it

[steel stirrup]

Facts

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-revolutionary-army-morley-morley-one-piece-giant-gif-9200577573027181772

[craggy vapor]

why is he wearing a skirt tho

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[tawny panther]

we need someone to translate these pages ASAP

[dense rapids]

So Holy Land Mary Geoise and the red desert

[vale heath]

https://tenor.com/view/moon-earth-globe-space-netflix-gif-17110972

[dense rapids]

That’s probably just Edom

[vale heath]

I imagine it looks like this but red

[dense rapids]

Like the holy land irl

Edom means red

[vale heath]

No red means red

Dummy

[royal orchid]

red means blue

[vale heath]

The burn scar man is Sarge

Oda crossover with red vs blue

[stone tulip]

Those who can’t see everything

[royal orchid]

one piece is a very clever reference to Spy VS Spy from Cartoon Network

[stone tulip]

Part 2

[stone tulip]

@vital heart do you guys think you can translate all of these ?

[royal orchid]

the demon in oda's ear telling him to draw a fullbody kuja shakky in the second page of the mag

surprised he held on for one page

[stone tulip]

That was taken from actual manga, there isn’t any new drawings other than concept artworks

[royal orchid]

oh it's just a composite?

[dense rapids]

Where is meek

[royal orchid]

that sketch of marijoa man it's so nice to visualize it

idk I'm a visual learner more than anything

[trim lily]

oh shit we got garlic concept art

[stone tulip]

Yeah it is

[stone tulip]

Possibly Imu too

[pine scaffold]

YO WE NEED MEEK ON THIS ASAP

This looks really fucking good

[steel stirrup]

Shit its Sunday, maybe he has some free time

[pine scaffold]

doubt it

ngl we are so lucky to have meek

😭

need this translated

[tawny panther]

this one too

[stone tulip]

Already pinged him about it

[grand flower]

what do the kaido part say

[craggy vapor]

Thanks so much for posting.
I need this translated, colored and printed asap

[stone tulip]

Also is that Vivi with ponytail again 👀

[dense rapids]

Fuck it I’m using gpt

[stone tulip]

No problem, coincidentally I just found it on my timeline and had to save it here lol

[dark stream]

BuggyGPT?

[tawny panther]

chapter coming early next week and translators now have to translate all these magazine pages lol

[grand flower]

the chapter doing whatn ow

[dark stream]

Why is chapter coming earlyt next week

[royal orchid]

tune on meekgpt

slave labor powered

[dark stream]

slavelabor? You mean make peoples electricity expensive bill

power

[craggy vapor]

This dude looks like a rat, doesn’t he?

[dark stream]

Shanks Rat Confirmed.

[trail pilot]

scans always come early on these types of breaks iirc

[tall wharf]

imagine if elbaf ends and we would have chance to see imu reveal

[tawny panther]

holiday break for magazine next week

[stone tulip]

Post time skip ponytail Vivi is real

[royal orchid]

suspiciously rat ear shaped curve on the hair

[stone tulip]

Shamrat

[craggy vapor]

Oda will leak the chapter to the internet himself

[frozen aspen]

they print the chapter before the holiday break whichbis why its early

during christmas

[digital spear]

Yes, side profile = rat

[tall wharf]

So Merry Early Christmas for One Piece fans like me!

[steel stirrup]

Even Toei is getting in on it

[fast pagoda]

Btw, Oda is talking about Lodestar

[stone tulip]

@digital spear look ponytail Vivi

[fast pagoda]

Not Laugh Tale

[dense rapids]

Doesn’t really seem to be new information

[digital spear]

Looks cute

[dense rapids]

Just Oda going over stuff we already know

[tall wharf]

looks he getting depressed 😭

[stone tulip]

Hopefully this is a hint we are gonna see her again with that hair style soon

[digital spear]

Would be great

[stone tulip]

It’s fluffier than pre time skip ponytail

[digital spear]

Like Robin changed hairstyle for Saul

[frozen aspen]

https://fxtwitter.com/i/status/2002747422012018809

MastaMunsta (@MunstaMasta)

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[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-vivi-vivi-one-piece-nefertari-vivi-nefertari-d-vivi-gif-17179149843688543528

[craggy vapor]

but she didn’t change her skin color, zehahaha

[tall wharf]

to be honest i like her hairstyle and im only one isn't bother?

[dense rapids]

So this Red Desert kinda confirms Marie Geoise arc will be like alabasta arc

Something that’s been theorized for years

[craggy vapor]

also it doesn’t make any sense that a hot desert tribe like the nefertaris have light skin. They all should be black.

[digital spear]

The ice cutting looks so satisfying so Mihawk wins

[royal orchid]

I liked robin going back to her original hair I thought it was unexpected but nice

[stone tulip]

Yeah plus Vivi’s hair was always symbolic so seeing her back with ponytail would mean she is back to being straw hat again to set sail and stop bad guys again but this time she is saving the world

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/heheheheh-fishie-fish-nico-robin-one-piece-silly-gif-14462808752607174864

her best hair anyway

[frozen aspen]

ok but consider

oda doesn't like drawing black ppl

[stone tulip]

As Arab myself not everyone has the same skin tone and not everyone is black and white, some people have shades of olive and brown too.

[craggy vapor]

but Imu is black

[digital spear]

so glue. its the hairstyle in which she met Saul and this fish.

[frozen aspen]

bc he is a shadow

[stone tulip]

He draws black people, just it’s racial stereotype unfortunately

[stone tulip]

It is impactful and wholesome for me which I like it

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/nico-robin-enies-lobby-one-piece-anime-seastone-cuffs-gif-20035280

[craggy vapor]

fair, but Vivi looks like she is living on the south pole

[frozen aspen]

yeah but he draws them incredibly light skinned. Look at how bb and rocks are colored

or usopp

[stone tulip]

I mean there are plenty of Arab had the same skin tone as hers, no big deal

[frozen aspen]

absolutely assassinated him not only character wise but design wise too

[royal orchid]

https://fixupx.com/sandman_AP/status/2002812505752821900?t=U_mLNG23JzFGFNozN8EUkg&s=19

sandman (@sandman_AP)

🌏According to Oda idea book, there were several candidate names for Garling: Garland, Gastra, Denham, H-Beth, and Surridge. Do you think Garling sounds the coolest? The 1st illustration shows an early design of Shamrock and Garling.💪

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FixupX · Dec 21, 2025, 6:44 PM

you guys saw this?

[stone tulip]

I think it isn’t just Oda’s issue but also other mangakas too cause I notice that this happens especially when they draw it traditionally

[royal orchid]

Garling used to look like a normal person before oda turned him into a crescent moon

also his name could have been H-Beth

[stone tulip]

Somehow he is even uglier

[vale heath]

Is he though

[stone tulip]

Yes

[craggy vapor]

how fitting that Oda went with bum

[stone tulip]

Especially that banana hairstyle

[digital spear]

Tf is H-Beth

[royal orchid]

you just need a nice angle that's all

https://tenor.com/view/garling-garling-one-piece-figarland-garling-one-piece-god-valley-gif-6779252170843509990