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I would actually argue he’s got better durability because he’s taking all those attacks from g5 Luffy and even though luffys given him everything he’s still able to get up
Manko*
I dont think there will be a rescue arc for gunko, I believe her story will be touched on when we truly fight the HKs and the WG in the final battle
Gunko will fight brook
The only durability feat from Kizaru we have is him getting one shot by Luffy but kid also got one shot.
So if we ignore those we have kid tanking several of big mom’s punches and attacks and still getting up
Kizaru doesn’t really have anything in comparison
Kizaru didn’t get one shot
Well he did
But he got up
To give Luffy food
The way I see it, these guys like Zoro, Shanks, Mihawk all have “normal” dura. With haki it changes but
It’s pretty clear he wasn’t actually out of commission
As far as endurance goes kid taking that beating being put to near death and still coming back and fighting but mom is more impressive than any Kizaru endurance feat
kidd doesn't have anything over kizaru max i can give him armor haki
Then he didn't get oneshot
Endurance is what allows them to take many
As far as outright power I think damned punk is stronger than anything in Kizaru’s arsenal
Yeah my point is he faked getting one shot
Why didn't Kid use CoC armor 
Too bad it doesn’t hit
Doesn’t matter
can't even use normal coc
As for endurance, I think it’s dubious because there’s reason to believe Kiz wasn’t at his best there
He was probably somewhat telling the truth, the attack probably did rock the fuck out of his brain & he needed a min
Durability is how much something damages you, endurance is how much you can fight through that damage
Yup
But he wasn't oneshot like how Kid was
Eh I disagree
Yeah so kizaru was able to actually take pretty much everything Luffy had and still got up
I understand the sentiment
still not sure whose haki this is
Idk I feel like that’s reason to say he has better dura
He was put out of commission by one punch
it's loki and harald clashing
It's just Loki and Harald's clash
And then he got punched again and was put out of commission again
there is no admiral getting one shotted by divine departure
He wasn't out though
And then he got turned into a pancake and got put out of commission again
He got up to go give him food then went back to pretending he couldn’t move
not even shanks most powerful move
He literally fed Luffy
What does Kid possibly have over Kizaru in that aspect ? How are you judging how much something damages Kizaru relative to Kid
He was able to move etc
He doesn’t need to move his entire body to feed Luffy
Thats not down & out
is one piece jump festa today ?
ig its their clash
He can seperate his hands from hisself and yeah luffy food
This makes much more sense than risking his entire job to feed Luffy
this what arguing to argue actually looks like
The attack rocked Kizaru don't get me wrong but he wasn't down & out
He was definitely out imo
Welcome to op discord
Wdym
!me?
Loki clashing with a buffed Rocks equal at 16 is crazy
nah illy
You’re saying you disagree with Kid’s durability vs Kizaru
Una😭
How are you judging that
Im saying outside of their respective one shots
pause?
This is lowkey justified glaze though
Kid has shown to be more impressive by tanking big moms attacks
"Glaze" and it's literally just what happened
Hush
wsp gng
But outside of that there’s such a small sample size for Kizaru
Loki ragnir named attack one shots Kid
Like this
When Loki clash with buffed rocks equally
It almost is just tough to gauge
DF-less and Ragnir-less Loki was able to clash with a buffed Rocks equal
Forget this stuff
And that's literally just what happened
What we have is mostly every Luffy punch forcing him to the ground for a period of time. Theres lacking evidence for both but I think Kizaru has shown more.
I just want to know why you think Rayleigh beats Whitebeard
Girl
Like what’s the wincon
21st 5pm jst
I don’t care
How does it happen
thanks
Np
I think a more appropriate comp with what you posted is him being grabbed by Luffy. He bled but he likely would’ve been able to fight if he wasn’t sulking
Plus you said “outside” of their respective one shots
So I don’t count those
He was coughing up blood and Luffy didn’t really crush him
I’m pretty sure he did
I wasn’t talking about the one shot
He squeezes him
U talking bout kizaru?
Yes
Man Luffy crushes ts outa that nigga
Holy moly that’s tomorrow! WIT PIECE TRAILERRRR 
Who has better durability kizaru or Kidd
Wit Piece trailer or next movie announcement 50/50
HELLYEAHHHH
Prolly Kidd
I meant this king
Yep
what do you think would happen to kidd if he revieves a gear 5 punch in the face ?
I think there’s a difference because Kizaru is doing something else there. He can only see it but can’t react just like Kid with Shanks
Something about op heroines
wit piece (pls pls pls)
elbaf anime
Idc about the movie
1 white star gun and it’s wraps
He eating it
Same thing that happened when Shanks hit him with a Kamusari
On OUR souls he’s not eating it
I was gonna get my sister the Heroines novel for Christmas and then I read some of it and I was like yeah I’m not giving her this lmao
if its a named a attack then not
i used to think kizaru was a glass cannon but he explicitly says in the same arc that his defense is still pretty good too
Specifically me and you
SPECIFICALLY?!?
but i think he will recover quick regadless like lucci and kizaru
Whyyy
I haven't read it so idk
Kaido was also knocked on his ass by a similar punch
It’s not they’re lying
if harald ate this fruit, it would be the end of the world
what is this fucking fruit bro
It’s weird
Kidd is lowkey dying to a white star gun 🥹✌️
The perfect defense refers to their acoa not their durability because Lucci just straight one shots sentimaru
it would make a lot of sense if it was the quake quake fruit, because in the hands of an ancient giant it could probably destroy earth
Kizaru didn’t get hit a lot iirc
The first story is Nami’s story and it’s entirely about her wanting to go shopping and some little girl who’s following her around. It’s like fan letter but worse and more patronizing lmao
so thats the thing Kizaru literally tanked it a bit he wasnt defeated
This shit is cooking Kid
Yeah
so Kizaru endurance better
I think this true
More of it’s hard to get past my acoa but if u get passed it
Then them niggas ain’t shit
Star gun was definitely stronger than the Kaido variation
Ouuu so not fun enough?
Man I was excited for its adaptation
Yes much stronger
It def was
There was flames and shit and visible Acoc
Someone drop that star gun panel rq
The rubberizing also seems to add an extra kick to the attack
That’s why they grab their faces after

The anime adaption may make it more compelling. Idk. The Robin and Perona stories are supposedly good.
Mm wishing for the best XD
Can't wait
the ugly barnacle fruit
What indicates acoc cause sometimes I don’t be knowing when it’s used
lightning sometimes
Luffy was probably using Acoc in both
but other times it’s just vibes
Because Kaido says he was
These days it’s the lightning
Despite the fact it wasn’t shown
But I remember everyone arguing if Koby used acoc
what yall think bout the bb 3 soul thry
Cause it has black lightning
Nah
Yea that’s why it’s arguable
Among other times lightning is used for non haki related things
Oda need to make ts clearer
this page has a supposed nice composition:
5/Go (Ni + ka = kanji of Five) + rou (elder luffy) + sei (star) ->
Gorousei
nah i think they can tank it but ye kizaru is jacked
They don’t rank it
They don’t die though
For big attacks that use conquerors
A lot of the time, Oda has lightning explode from the point of impact
ye
do u think bb has 3 souls?
I don’t think so
No
maybe not die cause its one piece
but they can't move in a day
i can lit prove it with so many reasons
But idk rocks seems too nice of a guy to just invade his sons body
Bb has 3 souls
His own
Eris
Rocks 
He also seems to believe in inherited will
So I don’t think he would inhabit his sons body
3)only bb jolly roger in whole series to have 3 skulls
Evil Rocks is cooked
I can see why he would have 3 souls
???when did we ever see him changing his personality
His personality in Jaya is different to other times for example
sometimes hes scared sometimes confident/smart etc
i hate that theory actually
let rocks be rocks and teach be teach please
Fr
Ehhhhh
maybe
That's just him
After seeing rocks die I don’t think there’s a possibility of this anymore
Ffs
Rocks talks about how he’s practically inherited davys will and wants to fulfill his promise
tru
Him inhabiting his sons body contradicts the idea of inherited will
BB "never sleeps" too which could be the different personalities/souls swapping & taking control
do yall hate how op is becoming naruto like me
No it isn’t lmao
I get what your saying ngl
One piece has good writing and tension still
They can change the terminology and use the word inherited will
nika-joyboy-luffy
davy-xebec-bb
Naruto’s writing dropped off a cliff halfway through the series
But I still kind of see it as similar to reincarnation ngl
i give you the good writing the tension mmm
yeah
If you don’t feel narrative tension after the past chapter then I don’t think we have a basis for discussion tbh
naruto writing quality is a sine wave
ngl elbaph is kinda mid
Aight bro
Elbaf is very good
People like zunesha and imu go as far as to call Luffy and rocks joyboy and Davy
hot take
My ass
It’s like it’s something more than just inheriting their will
On god man lmao
its just same as naruto
not my problem when you put the 5 gorosei and no one dies and kaido strongest creature can't even kill Kinemon
I'm not having this convo lmao see y'all after a few mins
Oda needs to begin killing important characters
Well in Luffys case at least, its also the drums & the white form that make Zunesha/Emet call him Joyboy
Outside of flashbacks
not my problem either then I suppose, no? Lol
i would love to think some bad things can happen oda just dont give me the proofs
elbaph makes op more similar to naruto, the holy knight raid was mid as crew didnt do anything, rocks is goated but
its good but not better than other arcs
like dressroca enies lobby wano
What
Mfs get too meta with it
Lol
Wano wasn’t that good
Elbaf clears
Nah thats fr bait
Badly
Rocks is the only thing dragging the arc down
onigashima was
Okay Penny....
Still a 9/10 tho
Gotta get the Rocks diss in
and the other arcs are a 10
Some are
There’s no one piece arc that’s a 10 lol
Every OP arc is a 10
Outside of like sabaody and enies imo that are close
You're all fake fans
penny with the Rocks hate is the same as Socrates with the Loki stanning
Wow
it’s all kinda subjective
That might be the most disrespectful thing anyone has said to me
do you see that imu demon king the holy knights the monsters... i can gurantee the only person dying this arc is jarul
I’m sure everyone here has something that means something incredibly profound to them that someone else can annoyingly debate as being dogshit
i got you
So fishman island was perfect
Because that’s kinda what media discussion is now but I’m off it
I'm a necessary evil
Every OP arc is a 10

Rocks gets glazed too much
Anything being a 10 is dumb to me though
then dislike the glazers and not the character
like what
Yeah and that’s fine. It’s one piece man. The tension doesn’t come from death for me. Like- lol
I don't like the character either
ye
"i have to dislike him because others love him too much"
Stop trying to pick fruit from a dead tree big dawg
The tree’s been dead since 2005
If you think that's all there is to it

But I've written many paragraphs about why I don't like him
I hope there’s another Rocks mention soon for your sake Penny
This reminds me. Remember that Artur fanfic comic where Rocks and Imu are the same guy
"Many paragraphs" is wild ngl
I don’t get why people need to explain disliking a character though
I think penny already disliked rocks, the glazing just made them hate rocks more and become more vocal about it
Does he really live rent free like that Penny?
Yeah it's both
Sometimes you just dislike someone for no reason
Nothing wrong with it
Can you blame me when he's being shoved in our faces constantly
I can understand it
its his/her pov
Sometimes the glaze gets too much
Though I feel like if you just blocked or ignored the people glazing it wouldnt be as bad
nothing to wry
I get it
I ignore most rocks shit because I dont find them interesting
It's his time it'll die down as more chapters come out probably
I wonder when barbell will come back
Sb will have a new goat in like 2 weeks
Isn’t SB a Harald glazer now
Indeed
I like Rocks for the Buggy stuff & he gave me this so he's good in my books
Yeah he switches idols like I do shoes
Sb switches his glazing targets more than his underwear lets be honest
I dont hate on the characters, I hate on the users
Idk Rocks is dead and Sb still championing
Only cause it wanks rocks
I don't think so, but if he is it's only because he sees it as Rocks upscale
LMFAOOOO
rare instance of me agreeing with chrissy
SB is the least loyal and most devoted follower one can have
Aura
You switched up on Imu after a few months
It takes you time to find your next glaze target
cuz of Rocks
It's only a matter of time. You were a gorosei fan then a shamrock fan then a loki fan
Exactly
same tbh
I'm thinking of glazing both harald and rocks since they are both equals

They still lose to shanks
Shanks always wins
Never have seen a more fitting pfp
do you choose characters to glaze based off strength?
Harald > Rocks js
or like based on whether you like their character writing
Switching up on agendas is the equivalent of snitching on an innocent person
Hype, aura and writing
The holy trinity
Those first two....

Truly a jjk fan
I glaze Harald too because he was a wise king who always decided right, never made a mistake
Aura def determines it too

W Harald W Speed
he never made questionable decisions you are right
Just like you
❤️
havent visited piratesfolk in a while
real consequences if we have literally imu in elbaph the least i hope is something bad can happen but when you see the Gorosei in Egghead and the only consequence is Emet a robot who is introduced in the same arc dies how can i make myself into tension
what are their thoughts on recent chapters
You are so sweet ❤️
i mean why would you unless you hate yourself
They havent been that vocal lately tbh
Piratefolk is chill atm
Great Imu guided Harald down the right path before he was convinced by the scum and bum Rocks, and now his rebellious evil son and horrid Elder are leading rebellious soldiers in his castle to prevent Harald from leading Elbaf in the right direction
Harald is stupid but still better than oden
Again, I don’t care about the deaths. The deaths don’t give me tension.
I don’t care about them
Maybe One Piece is actually peak then
damn they really dont fw oden huh
I used to be like you
Barbell kills Garling
And then I rebuilt myself better
breaks pacified them
Oden is the most hated character on that sub so it’s no surprise
They wont be ready for Dragon, Barbell and I finally making our move
I forget piratefolk is where sb gets his opinions, no wonder he is stuck on rocks glaze
“And I”
Crazy
He actually was a wise king bro wdym😭
You're not ready for YC to make his move
YC is literally above YC1
YC solos your favorite dont disrespect them
He’s YC Prime
When YC does that thing at that place.... watch out
I am a Yonko Commander ... I command Yonko
literally said consequences not even deaths but okay stay cool

He said it not me
Idk man I already said I don’t care. Sorry. Lol.
that's what makes him even more wiser
You can keep replying if you want tho. I love chatting with my friends!!!!
😭
Chat is this true
He’s so wise he got scammed by the government even though it was the most obvious trap oat
Its WG propaganda
If only he just married rocks like the elders wanted
thats okay i like to criticise that things cause i feel one piece can be even better
I mean uh
Elders were probably homophobic
oh
Elders in fiction are usually every phobia possible
I mean
Yeah again I just don’t care man
It's crazy cus Luffy loves bugs
If you were a giant would you consider humans bugs
No
A beetle is probably more important than humans for him
Yeah but like cute ones that still deserve life and stuff
Like if a beetle walked on to my hand and was like Hello, I’m James, what’s your name
I'd consider them puny
I’d be like holy fuck man yeah get this guy an ID and citizenship now he’s like alive
He’s talking and shit
That would be so cute I'd probably cry
- Gerd
Time to reread this flashback
Well almost the whole world depends on them surely it wasn't as obvious as you make it sound
Guys thigh dropped new masterpieces
But its not time
6 more chapters to go
I’d be like Gerd yeah

The "x messages blocked" when you block someone annoys me more than their presence
also Harald 
they are basically the roger and wb
Idk.... throne thats not supposed to have someone sitting on it, is seen with someone sitting on it but he's just like "this is fine"
He was literally not fine with it
This is the best clash pose
Among the big haki clashes imo
10 km right?
thats very optimistic
He barely questioned it & just went along with it
He was so deeply fucked he was out of options
Yeah just erased everything in 5km. Imu died from this
I just know
Even in his final moments, Harald knew who the better choice was.
It blew away everyone within 5 km
glad toei going seasonal before animating rocks content
unlike egghead where the whole traitor thing was so unpleasant im willing to see what happens in the present
oda can cook
He is just so good and smooth
Even wayyyyy back then when they first met, Rocks told bro, "They will make you a slave"
And then he still had the nerve to be surprised

Our starboy
Loki smarter than WB, BM & Kaido
Younger than Koby there btw
One of the strongest 16 year olds in the series
Shirahoshi is probably 1st for that though
Tf are you yapping about
I think Loki is one of the smartest characters in One Piece. And I am not even exaggerating
He's probably lower than Rayleigh and Gaban
thank you google ai very cool
I think loki is sharper than big angry dude wants to bring down the world
Wdym
One piece doesnt really have too many "cunning" characters id say
"What are you yapping about" and I'm just stating facts
Theres guys who have very high raw intelligence like the scientists
Which big angry dude
Blackbeard?
Nobody i was speaking in general
Same
LMAOOO
Finally
The look of terror on his face made me so happy
I think Loki has always been one of the strongest in his age group ngl
Is this how loki vs shanks wld go 
Jake Paul when he can't beat up a decrepit old man
interesting info here
loki and hajrudin are the paul brothers of opverse
Jake Paul is lowkenuinely the Garling of boxing
The extent of Loki and Harald fighting
sb are you a loki fan now?
on steroids
For sure
I glaze Rocks/Harald
But they're both Loki upscale
I am rereading some old chapters to get a better insight on Harald's power level
Its crazy though Loki is only 16 moving like this against a prime buffed Harald
and what it means for Loki

Wait I gotta update the feat list
I loved it
Best thing to happen in 2025
it seems even with Loki using the fruit and Ragnir, Harald was able to hold his own
eventually he did get defeated tho
Him trying to clinch with his knees was hilarious as well
but it wasnt a one sided battle even with the fruit and ragnir
Bro is studying the ancient scripts of One Piece powerscaling

Ancient Scripts is wild
I hope next chapter is like Rocks vs Garp/Roger
Doing this after switching to a JJK pfp...
no itll probibly be even crazyer
No shit
its what everythings been leading towards
The whole point is "what happened that night"
Thats like saying, "did you know grass is green"
another opportunity for Oda to draw Divine Departure lol
wait so Loki and Harald fought throughout the entire castle
@digital spear Remember the Fortnite anime thing from yesterday
ONE PIECE FORTNITE CONFIRMED???
Nah Bleach just one upped everyone
Lmao
Wym they got a BMW COLLAB?! 😭
WAIT THIS SEEMS HUGE???
even the ceiling got obliterated
maybe Loki sent a thunder strike down
and it destroyed the celing
I think that was cause of the Knights
Sb is like an archeologist going around in the Elbaf ruins
wait...
They teleported in
They visit the castle after the Knights teleport in
Loki's Feats
- Survived being thrown from realm to realm at the age of 2 minutes
- Beheaded a bear at the age of 3 minutes
- Climbed half way up the World Tree at the age of 4 minutes
- Tanked an ACoC slash from Rocks D. Xebec at the age of 5
- Made the underworld his personal playground at the age of 10
- Killed & tamed countless beasts of the underworld at the age of 10
- Clashed with a prime, buffed, Xebec equal without a DF or Ragnir
- Killed a prime, buffed, Xebec equal with regen the age of 16
- Proved to be too much for middle-aged Gaban according to Gaban
- Sailed the New World for 8 years and accumulated the special bounty of 2.6 billion at ages 16-19
- Seemingly close match against Yonko Shanks at the age of 19
- Survived crucifixion against the entirety of Elbaph's warriors at the age of 20
- Survived being beat on by the captain of the HKs and a future Imu vessel at 21
- Still a century until his prime according to Oda so this is basically 2/3s of his real power not including his Devil Fruit
:OOOOOOO
ngl I dont see any destruction sfx
I’m pretty sure the lightning is the path of the travel
We got a Loki scholar and Sb is in the process of becoming a Rocks and Harald scholar
I think the ceiling was already gone
The lightning strikes the pentagram
What a time to be alive
Yeah
But I guess either way is fine
but Loki had to have used Ragnir right
Yeah
and thats hella destructive
Most definitely
Along with a legendary DF which can cause the end of the world
Loki is gonna have to be put in some very uncomfortable conversations
No Haki used here according to seastone debuff
I dont think so
Imagine bro
The school was founded after he was grown up, it's not his fault
Dude can just send endless lightning bolts
I dont think Seastone stops haki
No, it does for DF users
Luffy said so
ngl this might be a cold take but since Elbaf is so big, couldnt ragnir theoretically wipe out smaller islands
like look at the size of the lightning
It definitely could in theory
Elbaf might have to suffer some damage
Sb sizescaling again...
Ragnir is easily comparable to ancient weapon level firepower
sb is glazing loki, yall know what this means
1 bolt is island level if not near-island level
Uh oh
And we haven't even touched on Loki's glowing eyes
I'm not glazing Loki, im just looking at the manga
They give potential for a link to the Hellfire Serpent
Me too ngl
I hope this all gets revealed next chapter
"Glaze" and it's just interpretting what Loki has already done
I wanna see Loki's kit
Same
but also how Harald fairs against it
He's so stacked rn
I think Harald may hold his own against Loki, but ultimately lose
"This person is talking about the strength of a character i dont like"
it'll be a high diff fight
You think I dislike Loki?
Laughable ngl
Nah but when the convo is about Loki and we get called glazing for just making observations, times have gone mad.
Oh ye
Im not talking about you im just talking to you
I think Ragnir is severely underrated
Socrates' Feats
- Survived being kicked from the server at the age of 2 minutes
- Beheaded a hacked account at the age of 3 minutes
- Climbed half way up the off-topic channel at the age of 4 minutes
- Extreme-Diffed by Okama Lieutenant Basicbean at the age of 5
- Made #also-manga his personal playground at the age of 10
- Killed & tamed countless beasts of #also-manga at the age of 10
- Clashed with a prime, buffed, Bean equal without helper or mod role
- Killed a prime, buffed, Bean equal with mod powers the age of 16
- Proved to be too much for middle-aged Arsal according to Arsal
- Sailed #manga for 8 years and accumulated a Mee6 message count of 2.6 billion at ages 16-19
- Seemingly close match against Admin Snodlop at the age of 19
- Survived a ban against the entirety of r/OnePiece's warriors at the age of 20
- Survived being beat on by the captain of the helpers and a future Fatsumo vessel at 21
- Still a century until his prime according to Oda so this is basically 2/3s of his real power not including his captain role
Nah I see your point
you sharing the same name colour as socrates doesnt help
This is Rocks role🤷🏾♂️
😭
It’s just like I’ve prob seen it so many times just today alone

Whether it’s Rocks Shanks
Etc
Had this role before Loki was revealed, just turned out to be even better because it portrays that I enjoy Rocks and Loki
I've colonized this name color
Type shit
literally
No longer Rocks' but Socrates'
youve succesfully made me associate it with you
😭
Does that color even fit Rocks
Lowkey
tbh not really
It's his hair color
I guess sorta
Well half of it
If Loki forms his own crew this flashback will we get a Loki pirates role
the colour was chosen before Rocks was introduced
rocks' famous purple hair
so like
His hair is pretty purplish
So it's kinda a big coincidence
It does now, he has the hair color. Honestly insane future sight
Its kind of his hair color which is a crazy future sight feat for whoever chose the color code
Same thought
look at the size of these lightning bolts dude thats why hes the ggg (goat gangster gastino)
thats why hes the egg
No diffed Katakuri
Bb
Yeah and the fact that Ragnir can move by itself kinda changes things
Please no
i've gotta get off this server i read colonized as colon-ized. like the giant kid
Ragnir could kill Elbaph by itself ngl
probably yeah
It might be over for u
or the hammer chooses him or whatever
But yeah Ragnir does seem to have an honor system
YEET
Yeah it does
I wonder if they’re a pair
Strange
I wonder if Loki can command it, like tell it to go attack something by throwing it
He might be able to make fights 2v1's 😭
That would likely make them not supreme grades
and thats a huge advantage in fights
He did not have to throw it this hard point blank
The helmet saved his life
But the sword went thru the helmet and hit his brain
Literally went thru it.
But ok
The hammer in mythology does return to the owner when thrown
The helmet still saved him
How
Like if he got stabbed in the head with no helmet on he'd die
thats what helmets do
loki could do a combo where he throws the hammer, starts attacking someone with the fruit then the hammer comes back
thankfully the helmet saved him
crazy
Right right
Lmao and he has a Devil Fruit
Hajrudin could end up wielding that sword
I seen the crazy shit Thor can do with mjolnir
Imagine he can send Enel level beams of light
After Jarul dies
sb do you think usopp can use the hammer now that we know it moves by itself
Ragnir is Enel's fruit on steroids
Usopp lifting it would be so laughably bad
Not if it's presumed chosen owner is Loki
cuz I dont think even Enel can do lightning the size of Elbaf
He genuinely could since the hammer can swing on it's own, so it'll do all the work and Usopp can take credit for it
he quite easily could
he could
Maybe idk
Only thing I’d care about is Usopp taking it from Loki
Loki when Zoro starts lifting the hammer:
"why do people think I dislike Loki"
But he should get something else
Usopp gotta use Ragnir
Not really
its kinda funny that the mjolnir worthy thing is a marvel exclusive
^
How about you wait until I finish bud
True but who knows if Oda saw any of those movies with his daughters and said "I like that"
if oda went off norse myth all usopp would need was some special gloves (and his own strength) to use mjolnir
But it can move by itself
So I have hope
Harald mentions ragnir too, not just the fruit
I wonder if they both augment each other
Usopp should get a different hammer
seems like they're a packaged deal
I remember reading this story where thor got his hammer repo'd by some giants
Something that could be crafted for him
like Loki could use the fruits power to boost Ragnir
you probably need to eat the fruit in order to wield ragnir
or something
yeah he had to dress up as freya and attend the marriage to get it back
maybe this too
(because he sold out freya to get his hammer back i think)
What a time to be alive
Norse mythology did Freya wrong
if oda truly cared about norse myth we would have mpreg loki by now
real
The only person who can wield Ragnir is the user of the legendary fruit
checks out
maybe
i wonder if Harald could wield it
I mean with the nature of devil fruits this is theoretically not impossible
otherwise how did it end up being placed in the treasure room
harald said he'd pick it up, but also that he'd eat the fruit as well
Still haven't seen Valkyries flying around, Oda is fumbling.
Well evil Harald thinks he can
so its interesting
i mean even without the fruit, i wonder if Harald could wield it
i think he might just want to take the legendary treasures too
Is ragnir stronger than Yoru
not that he specifically needs or even knows what they are
No
definitely not
Arguably yeah
Yoru is probably the most powerful weapon in the series, bar none
It’s already known as the strongest sword in the world
^^
loki vs mihawk who wins
Mihawk
Well Ragnir isn't a sword
Yoru is the strongest SWORD
Ragnir is the strongest weapon
objectively i feel like ragnir would be a more powerful weapon but idk swords can be silly in one piece
We don't know specific on that
thats how I see it
Better question would be like Loki vs Greenbull
A sword is a weapon
So that makes no real sense
greenbull hype
you know it wasnt
Ragnir is stronger then
Therefore you can't judge off of it
knowing Oda it probably wasn't
Nobody knows if it was or wasn't
We don’t technically know if Yoru has an ability either
Yoru being a black blade doesnt match up to the destructive potential of Ragnir
at all
this is probably going to be yet another upscale for Shanks to be honest
So you can't judge off of it
i do 
It could be equally as crazy
He put in good work against a shanks of 6 years ago. What a guy.
Exactly
Anyway Loki vs Greenbull
Ha ha everyone laugh
greenbull wins
we haven't seen Yoru in action
Okay so he still is in the conversation
I mean we kinda have
yeah, but i mean full on action
He is in competition with Greenbull and Fujitora
No way Ragnir is stronger than an Ancient Weapon. Maybe out of weapons you hold in your hands
jozu is also a strong guy
Jozu is the most durable man yeah
!wss
Not really and nothing says that considering how Greenbull was put to any difficulty against Momonosuke
This would’ve killed Whitebeard
it could arguably be relative to an ancient weapons power tho
Man we really need a Mihawk fight
The only time you can argue is probably against Luffy
Canon?
definitely
Extreme diff either way
So true
jozu vs loki who wins
I highly doubt it could do what Uranus* did to Lulusia
Yeah so Loki could be put in between Shanks and Mihawk since we don't know the specific of Loki vs Shanks yet
Extreme diff either way but I got Jozu
Mihawk intended that slash for WB, not Jozu
Ragnir could definitely be the next best thing to an ancient weapon
I mean if Jozu targets an ankle he might got it
Look at the size of Elbaf, its absolutely destroying an island
Jozu was the perfect person to handle that attack just like Marco handled Kizaru’s
This is definitely destroying an island
look at the size of those lightning bolts
All it meant was that the commanders were willing to step in first
it would probably be more revered and known about if that was the case
Also all of a sudden when it comes to Ragnir nobody wants to size-scale
people would've probably saught it
I could tank it
Rob Lucci vs Loki
Not if it's been locked away for centuries
Also this is a nerfed Loki wielding Ragnir
Imagine its full potential
you mean like the ancient weapons also have?
Discord please
Shamrock & Loki feel in the same boat to me right now where they can fall in Yonko/admiral tier or can fall in the tier between yonko/admiral & top tiers
Exactly he's only 16 going against his dad
Well Lucci is faster and has awakening...
Ragnirs full power unleashed would be catastrophic
lucci is probably too nimble to be hit
I think
For sure
Garling yapped about Shanks reaching Shamrock’s level with a Deep Sea contract but it’s clear he ain’t know shit

Exactly and not sure why illee is baiting for Loki to go against average tier players
Since we don't know the specifics of Loki vs Shanks
what if oda specifically says "shanks obliterates loki next year" in his letter tonight
Loki could definitely be right next to Shanks soon
Shanks seemed to be hiding that he was from the Red Hair Pirates
Oh yeah that's tonight
What if Oda specifically says "Shanks almost dies to Loki next year"
wym tonight
What I wanna know is why does Herald eatting the fruit end the world but not Loki? Hes not fully ancient giant?
Can't wait for another super vague message
that would definitely be surprising
What time exactly is the letter
anyone got the link?
which is interesting as well that he was a captain with his crew too .. cause how tf did Teach manage to fight against Shanks while he had his crew and WB pirates didn’t know about it
these are in JST but one piece is last
a new movie feels like a must
i saw that jjk jojo's and hell's paradise had announcements yersterday but my dumb ass thought it was just a coincidence
My idea is his division was assigned to a mission
I think we shouldnt bother talking about this fight yet, since Oda time and time again proves to just wait
Like GV was a lie, whats happening to Harald was a lie
so more like tomorrow early morning
we just dont know what went down at all
is it on Youtube?
unless Teach vs Shanks happened while Shanks was a God Blade
yeah live streamed
i need to be on that
3am est
Exactly so Shanks vs Loki shouldn't really be used for reference as powerscaling until we see specifics
It was seemingly just before he returned to Marijoa
Someone inform me about the most important One Piece news from the Jump Festa
i really pray that we get a movie
Cause Tiger ripped off the bandage
this year for sure 
sb you more than anyone else should know better than to doubt shanks
And it bled
and if we do get a movie, i am certain that the God Knights will be in it
after GV, I cant trust Oda until we see what goes down
Cuz everything Sengoku said was a lie
Why do you want a movie 😭
Pray for wit piece
True true
why not? it's a fun time
^^^^
We all want that
i need to see who the next movie villain is
I pray it gets cancelled
im so excited

Shanks def beat Loki, but how he won is a mystery
For all we know, other characters could have been involved
i am not that excited for WIT piece, given it's going to be a recreation of what we've already had reanimated and adapted
Movies are evil and need to be eradicated because they love spoiling future canon things
For any extra canon bits
yeah it’s hard to tell the timeline cause idk how long Shanks was already in Mariejois by the time the Fisher tiger thing happened .. was it his first day , was he there for weeks , maybe a month cause with how fresh the wound seemed , it happened a couple days ago (Oda doesn’t leave bandages on for long after fights )
we WILL be getting the imu face reveal in the next film
i am a bit sour on the pre-timeskip getting all these recreations, but i get why
Film Red had quite a lot
@pine scaffold did you think kid was gonna have a clash with shanks
What I want
- One Piece movie announcement
- Wit Piece is cancelled
- New One Piece game thats actually good
- One Piece in Fortnite
Booo
Can staff do one of those cool countdowns with th4 precise time
One Piece Battle Pass
lmao
we'll probably get a sneak peak for Elbaph arc as well
Might happen, hopefully happens, wont happen, wont happen
i hope we get the one piece manga end announcement
he said it would be ending in 2025 so he better not lie
Sb was the #1 Kid supporter back then lol
that's fs
In 5 years
2/4 would be good enough
maybe we'll get the next DLC pack for PW4 after Enel, Zephyr and King
!rmd list
skin emote for Luffy where he turns gear 5 and spoils every single person on the map
2 months yc
Film hunter
Wit piece January
Fighterz
One piece is highguard
Ill be gone then
make fun of Adood because Sanji vs Sommers did happen
what would a Fighterz be named if it was One Piece?
Big Mom returns as a skeleton
Loki life size action figure PLEASE
i do think theres a good chance they do a one piece collab with the live action release
Where are you going
Nobody thought Loki would clash with Harald
🧒🏻
to a better place
It happened
Battle will
Loki clashing with Shanks isn't impossible at all
wasn't that a given, since we know that Loki was responsible for his death