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Joyboy the man with the strongest haki lost to imu. And you think Luffy is top tier?
And better than kizaru
it might just be limitless on how powerful haki can be
Luffy's haki is nothing compared to joyboy
Kaido is just a physical monster
Haki improvement is just something oda would add suddenly in major fights
Joyboy is the pinnacle
top tier dont mean top 1 so yea Id say luffys haki is top tier
Top tier is more vague
Luffys had top tier haki since the end of wano
Luffy does have a ways to go with haki, but yea the stamina issue is his glaring problem
Well the top 1 lost to the final villain so what's the point of being anything in the top tier at all?
right now especially with how luffy uses g5 in every fight, him getting like 5 minutes is horrible
Kaido's own words: "haki triumphs all"
if he could sustain g5 he'd be way stronger
what
It’s also important that you don’t faint 5 minutes into your fight
did luffy give a timer on G5 already?
Haki’s ceiling is proportional to the user
Luffy went from katakuris haki hurting his hands to having top tier haki in one arc
Loki and Joyboy are about to be the only ones to counter the Abyss cant waitt
Stamina is build through more usage and more battles, not training.
Haki triumphs all but you need to be able to fight for longer than an opening and recap
I don’t think Haki is uncapped
which is limitless
You can say Luffy has top tier haki but if someone like joyboy lost to imu, then are you gonna say Luffy's haki is enough?
Yeah and it still needs to be improved way more than his haki
Tho, Seraphim might be the only ones with endless potential
Haki is essential.
Due to the fact they always improve in combat
Tbf we still don’t know how joyboy lost
Being awake is more essential
@coarse fjord the guys with the strongest haki after joyboycouldn’t even damage imu btw
Or if he in fact lost
But it's the fact that they lost
nb4 joyboy also got CoCancer
I think joyboy losing was deeper than just ohh imu is stronger
We don’t even know if haki is what beats imu
You mean xebec?
We still don’t know the crime zunesha committed
It might be fruit powers
Yes
I'm talking about joyboy
We don’t even know if haki beats imu
Yes
Joyboy has the strongest haki
well Im not saying thats enough, if anything id say thge g5 time limit is the more glaring issue
It’s more likely fruits are how it’s done
Haki alone will not be enough but haki is essential. Luffy needs an extremely strong haki so his gear 5 can beat imu
Ts don’t even bypass the hk regen
Just a temp halt
Joyboy was the previous Nika that's why I can use him as an example.
He needs to be awake long enough to maintain gear 5 because that’s the key to defeating imu
Gaban claims the hk aren’t immortal yet we still ain’t seen a single one acc take lasting damage
Imu might be immune to haki to some extent
Joyboys gear5 is likely more essential than his haki
Which is why devil fruits are needed
theres more unlocks to nika guys dont worry
Exactly
(Rocks’ plan)
He can last a whole day with gear 5 but if his haki is weak then he would never best imu.
The time issue is a stupid thing oda added to move the plot, he would just remove it like in gear 3 or 4
luffy still dont know how to harness the energy he gave emet
When did he last a whole day
Please
I mean if
His projection or whatever it was on GV instantly recovered
cuz nika can make somekind of energy we dont know what that is
While Saturn’s regeneration was slowed
He can have Joyboys haki but if he cant fight for more than 5 minutes he would never beat imu
He can have the greatest haki ever but if he can’t maintain gear 5 he loses so much quicker
Gear 5 is clearly more important
Also it's been teased from the beginning of egghead anyway that Luffy will obtain mother flame in other words eternal energy, and that's his fuel for stamina
Then it's chicken or egg
yeah you need to count nika powers here
Yes but considering haki hasn’t shown anyway to bypass imu Nika is clearly more important
holy ass
what is haki even essential for , for fighting imu that luffy doesn’t already have
I want to know
If luffy's gear 5 just becomes limit less, that would already make him just lesser than imu or shanks in strength
nah i dont think it was motherflame
Stronger acoc isn’t going to damage imu more
How can you be so sure of this
?
Idk bro maybe because we saw imu regen from 4 acoc attacks from garp Roger wb rocks and regen like it was nothing
Oh really
mystery energy VP cant figure out
VP cant figure out what powered emet
So does that mean that their acoc attacks aren't strong enough or that acoc attacks are useless?
Lmaoooo like for real 😂 love the meme usage too lmao
So you think shanks acoc > rocks Roger wb and garps acoc all at the same time
Why shanks?
Because joyboys haki was compared to shanks
That's just not true
the giants did
Wow
then again what do giants know
thats a different haki they just experienced
not only the user is dead its stored haki also
I think the idea that joyboy has the be 100x stronger than any of the current top tiers gotta go
Joyboy can be the strongest pirate yet but still comparable to current top tiers
I think what made him so much more of a threat to imu compared to everyone else wad the Nika fruit
The giants was saying if joyboy's haki was even stronger than shanks, how did we reach a conclusion that shanks = joyboy in haki
It didnt have hostility to it, thats why
Ye and as we know the nika fruit got some kick to it
I think he was stronger but not by that much
us readers can say thats not close to shanks haki
cuz that shit teleported gorosei back
estrid lowkey a baddie
It’s more of a thing where even though joyboy wasn’t so much stronger it’s that the Nika fruit is imus weakness
Yup
That’s what I’m saying
Joyboy’s weapon is the Nika powers
Exactly
true he did weaponize it
How did the fandoms say that it's equal
Accompanied by strong haki
The community everyone just decided joyboy has to be out of everyone’s league and no current top tier can touch him
Probably the best haki
we talk about back then how many robots joyboy powered up for war
It’s because of what we just saw imu do
But imu only looked that powerful because no one had a way to bypass the regen and domi reversi
Which joyboy most likely did through the Nika fruit
This is probably how ppl felt about logia’s years ago
Some hax are usually involved
We don't even know the condition for domi reversi
Niggas prolly thought smoker was gone be tearing shit up for the whole story years ago
Because agenda piece is strong
Haki has countered the summonings and reversed transformations
But fear not, next arc i can say bb> joyboy when blackbeard kills shanks so im never worried
Smoker > Roger agenda 🥹
And also blown off the Reversi contracts
And so far the only way to negate Regen, or at least halt it.
LMAOOOO
He still gotta chance
It doesn’t quite negate it
😭😭😭
But we’ll have to see more
So if haki can’t negate it I wonder what can
Smoker will be on kobys side so he’s surviving regardless
smoker is on a different path now
closing on civil war level
Harald dying here should give us a clearer picture

Go ahead with your headcanons
I’m just confused on why gaban says the hk aren’t immortal and haki can beat them if we ain’t seen a single hk die and still ain’t seen any hk take any lasting damage
You literally started this headcanon shit 😭
lol ngl loki can one shot imu
What did I say that was headcanon? I'm confused
What if you need to use a fuck ton of haki
I feel like w'ere just getting ahead of ourselves. For all we know its as simple as using the ability scopper/rocks used but for more attacks
2 people killed them
Maybe
So did Roger and Garp
You started using headcanons first I just asked a rhetorical question
But you wont like my answer
heres what i think
roger and garp dint really hone their haki attack
they just did a sloppy big release of haki
And I ask, what did I say that you think is a headcanon?
Loki and Dragon
so if you magnify or compress your haki properly
you can deal damage to them using less haki
Ye
This one right here
Loki killed a HK getting his special bounty
Dragon killed one and became the worlds worst criminal
Haki is simply one method
most awaited loki df
if it can kill a HK
I acc forgot harald is really dead and was a hk
If this is headcanon to you then anything that's Luffy gonna learn about haki proficiency in elbaf rn is useless?
i mean i think it’s more likely he became the worlds most wanted criminal because he leads the greatest revolutionary force in the world
Domi Reversi can likely be undone by Gear 5
I let you forget? I must not be doing my job correctly.
Let's just make Luffy spam g5 on imu and win guys!! Let's not master our haki, strengthen it and control it.
And also by following the rules of the ability
it feels all but guaranteed
This guy just had a meltdown about Harold lmao on Facebook
But also haki works too
literally the white to imu’s black reversi tiles
Can we get any higher
Wocks
wait for viz i guess
Let me just make it clear you were essentially presenting the idea that Luffy needed superior or equal haki to joyboy to defeat imu when like you said haki doesn’t negate regen and not only that we have no idea what joyboy vs imu looked like to say that
not sure if viz version will improve that
Immortal with regen
Somehow beaten by a teenage Loki
That DF must be crazy brazy
maybe it just ends up being the idea of using a haki that stays where its placed. Like Joyboy imbued haki onto this rope for 800 years. Maybe its the concept of htting the HK with haki that stays for a long time and so they cant regenerate
I think it’s time for some uncomfortable conversations
Loki gonna go too stupid in the upcoming chapters
A quick question. Do you think haki is useless in any of Luffy's attack?
About what in particular
sure why not
or both
more powerful haki with less haki usage
training for efficiency
Do you think when Luffy uses g5, his punches aren't done with haki?
frog zoan is locked in
Give me Jormungandr
do NOT disrespect the ant zoan
People always used to theorise rocks was a buggy type character now they theorise rocks is buggy daddy
they are its just not shown because it wouldnt look good
The odd thing is how Sommers said he was in agony even while regenerating. Idk why that would be brought up if they can just regen infinitely, it makes it basically irrelevant
its a shame we dint see rocks fight garling and his crew
I really had a whole theory before rocks was revealed that carabou was rocks son
Am I people
I didn’t say it’s useless I’m saying that Luffy needing stronger haki than joyboy isn’t a necessity especially because we don’t know what imu vs joyboy looked like and since we don’t know if haki can bypass imus powers
Niggas never let shit go
They aren't ready
LMAOO
also not all demon mode has the same CoC defense as rocks
I've been on this train since FUCKING APRIL
Loki the goat tho
Wdym it's not a necessity? Haki is literally what HURTS the enemy??
That df gonna have some serious kick to it
some people are desperate to connect buggy to anything
Davey D. Buggy has such a great ring to it
But can u blame them for this😭😭
i can and i will
This isn't demon mode
I think you need better reading skills I said better haki than joyboy isn’t a necessity
This is literally just a stronger Harald with Regen
Figarland Rayleigh
Not every demon has conquerors lol
His mind is clear as well, Harald is completely taken over
im just saying in general
not all of em would haev crazy CoC defense
If xebec, garp and Roger's all out conquerors attack can't even defeat imu what makes you think Luffy would? By gear 5 alone? So we should just ignore haki atp?
unless you going for Imu gives all of em powerful CoC defense
Depending on this next chapter we might have to start calling Loki and shanks top 5
I doubt Rocks only gained CoC defense while being Domi Reversi'd. Rocks and Harald were equals directly before the God Valley incident
Haki not enough to beat these niggas
^
It can be equal it can be stronger it all depends on Luffy
like i said in general
the giant demons + all hks
He doesn’t necessarily need to guard
You’re a fraud
There’s been Loki fans since wci
Oh ok
Fuck was they fans of😭😭😭
So you see if shanks with presumably comparable haki to these guys is also compared to joyboy what makes you think joyboys is so much greater than everyone else’s

The silhouette.
Truly ten toes down
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Bro
cuz rocks was able to easy defeat his demon family + 2 HKs
so clearly those guys dint have enough Haki defense
Man I been locked in joyboy #1 fan since his introduction
Fuck no
Doubt it
That’s easy agenda though
We gotta deal with mjlonir first
He might leave it for the present
Quality over quantity. I don't say anything until I have something to support it
I think Loki will eat the df in the last panel
We know joyboy is gonna be a tough character
its the same with sommers
his haki defense was not strong enough to block gabans
Just gotta say it first so I can say I been on the train before everyone else
I feel like if Loki actually eats the fruit he’s gonna reveal it against Imu
His family prob couldn’t even use it
But idk how he does that when Loki has to fight Harald
Loki and Joyboy are so far the only ones to beat deep Abyss contract users/Abyss regen
Holy blue balls
yes my point is it wont be that hard to deal with the giant demon army
Rocks erasure
He better not leave it for the present
Ahem
because they wont have a strong haki defense
Joy boy hasn’t beat shit
Rocks couldn't counter regen
“Loki and joyboy”
Here he go
LMAOOOOO
Joyboy un-transformed the Gorosei
Goodnight fam
I'm not calling them equals but so far they're the only ones to actually counter it
Bro acting a damn fool
Might as well put me and Lebron in the same sentence bro 🥹
Simple, joyboy has nika
?!??
LMAOOOOOOOOO
are you reading for the impending
loki carried by DF slander?
"Bro acting a damn fool" tell me how what I said is invalid
u not on our level gang
So is Luffy
Me and gucci mane got the most money
?
Luffy is actually more reliant on his df than Loki is
So going back to the original argument luffys fruit is the decisive thing
Agreed
loki, Gaban, shanks, and their dog hammer*
this is unreasonable slander coming soon
Yeah sure I'm just not talking about them and Luffy hasn't shown that yet
Agenda piece crowd likes Loki they won’t slander him
Witnesses say Loki killed Harald
“Our”
Shanks and Gaban don't show any level of proficiency in disabling regen
Especially at this time
They have no idea
And they say so themselves
The only witness is Jarul and we know eveyone is lying about the situation
Why brock fried as shit
That's not how it works my man
oh im waiting for that
see how much haki gaban and shanks throw at herald
And Loki himself says he doesn't kill Harald in cold blood
We know they wouldn't include shanks and gaban
You said it not me
oda showing shanks weakness ? will it happen?
Shanks and Gaban don't know how to counter regen
They will know soon
If that were the case then Gaban should've been able to kill the Holy Knights already
I'll give you a simple example then. Would gear 5 Luffy defeat kaido if Luffy didn't learn to do acoc attacks and just use his devil fruit?
that doesn't mean they didn't help loki anmd loki did all the work. plus the dog hammer
And LOKI HIMSELF says he has the power to combat against the Holy Knights
Loki upscale is all a big shanks upscale which is all a mihawk upscale
Help Loki do what?
They can't disable the regen so what are they helping
It all comes back to Blackbeard
youre saying currently?
kill his dad
Not if his dad has regen
shanks and scopper dont know how to cancel regen in the flashback, they do now lol
Since they presumably can't
You can help fight someone who has regen
No, they don't
im telling you shanks wont have the balls to finish off herald
reason loki calls him a coward
And nothing says they do, Laww
They can block attacks and cut limbs to give loki an opening
Wait I just realised
They can cut limbs just for them to regenerate instantly
Unless you're assuming based off nothing, Shanks doesn't know how to counter the HKs
Nah
I realised it like 10 mins earlier too😭😭
Gaban could attack Harald in the next chapter too
i mean loki already admitted killing herald
whats the debate here
clearly you don't know how team fights work. they don't need to do permanent damage to help loki kill harold
I deadass forgot harald and ts just happened
And I'm talking about at the castle incident
To prevent him from going after Loki
you sure are something
If they don't do permanent damage then they're insignificant
Agenda
Yeah I was thinking back to your message
So are you

i'm > something. you could say i'm something more
People just hate Loki and Joyboy being the only ones to do something so far lmao
they already were able to slow him down from getting to loki, clerarly you are igniring any contribution they make in the fight
Gaban will attack Harald to stop him from going after Loki
That’s where he’ll learn conquerors works
You act as if loki was in the castle alone
Yes but they definitively can't kill Harald since they can't counter regen
To halt regen
its because of something
sounds like oda
Loki can counter regen
They always hating on Loki and joyboy and sanji for carrying😭😭😭
If anyone should know how to counter regen, it’s shanks who was part of that elite fighting group
No I'm not
Yes you are
No I'm not
😭
He doesn’t
Shanks and gaban are stronmg enought o fight harald and help Loki put him down
tbf they are fighting someone on par with rocks
He’ll learn it next chapter as well
kinda spooky
He probably does
I'm making a point to show how Gaban and Shanks don't show proficiency in attacking the Holy Knights like ever
Based on
You are acting like they sat against the wall and didn't help loki at all
you know the battle barely started
Clearly this was a team effort
I'm saying they can't help Loki nearly enough because they can't counter regeneration
Like 4 or 5 people who matter to put down harold
Majority of the work was likely just Loki
they like what? 1 attack on herald? looks like no haki also
If he knew, he should’ve attacked Harald with it straight away in this chapter
Just as a means of stopping him for a little
Same 5 sparks of black
You're acting like it was a Law and Kidd vs Big Mom type of match
They can make opening for loki and block attacks for loki
Based on the fact he was a God’s devoted blade, was next in line to become a full knight
He knows the conditions of the contract, you think he doesn’t know what the counter to regen is?
He probably doesn’t have mastery of it if it requires high level of haki mastery but he probably knows what the counter is
you haven't even seen the fight and are just assuming they actually did nopthing at all
Not if they just can't damage Harald
No because getting that info is different to knowing conquerors works. That coulda just been intel he gathered
I'm assuming they can't because they don't show anything that says they do
see that face? thats saying "i dont want to hurt this guy"
From eavesdropping
How does them not damaging harold mean they can't block or parry at all
Or if you subscribe to Shamrock telling him
Just imagine how hard it would be to hurt your only living family member left
they buds
how is harold immune to getting parried or his attacks blocked
It means they do little to nothing compared to Loki
I mean yeah we are just speculating
But it’s a very fair assumption to say shanks probably knows how to counter regen, given that he knows quite a bit about the deep sea covenant
look at em bonding
now he force to kill this mf
Well it doesn't look like Haralds attacks even need to be blocked
Loki clashed with him
You are telling me that they can't make opening for loki at all? In any way shape or form
Maybe a little but not too significant
Since they can't fight regen
I wonder if Roger taught his crew the counter to regen
This is crazy even for you
maybe roger pirates have better communication than SH
I don’t necessarily think so unless it was outright mentioned by someone in the Holy Land. I believe we’ll learn about it next chapter
Not really, and the fact that they dont know how to counter regen or even given any type of hint to makes me think they won't do much in the fight
If Shanks pins harold's arm down and makes an opening for loki or gaban parry's his weapon, that hasd nothing to do with regen
I don’t think anyone there actually knew conquerors counters regen
and loki can still attack
hold up true
herald is basically a robot of imu now
and we ain't even including the dog hammer
Didn’t gaban stop Sommers from regenerating briefly in elbaf?
Yes
The reason Gaban will know is because he attacks without it first in this chapter presumably
Does this factor in the fact that Harald is stronger than xebec at this form
And then will attack with it
this guy gets it
put ragnir in that equation
Am I being stupid what’s dog hammer
If giants like Jarul can't pin Harald down I doubt Shanks can
Especially since he isn't even Yonko
And the difference will be clear to him because Harald won’t regenerate immediately
Far from it actually
the hammer at the end of the chapter, I think it ate a dog fruit
we all know ragnir is the real legendary DF
better accept that now
Fr how come
Madness
shanks is stronger than those guys
Yeah a dog fruit that can somehow levitate
we all know ragnir is the real legendary DF
better accept that now (but louder and funnier)

The hammer jumped at loki like a dog jumps at it's owner returning home
They usually need legs to do that
the hammer was excited to see someone

Not the first time a weapon has acted up
It's fenrir by the way
Thats actually adorable
to be fair oda made the cerberus a missile kinda thing that flies
yall liked the chapter?
I mean I guess but Loki is still the main player against Harald
Loki and fenrir vs Shamrock and cerberus
so a dog can levitate
Do u know the lore about fenrir
some
Idk much is that the wolf that got chained or something
Shamrock and Loki
Both have weapons with DFs
Both will probably have very strong fruits as well
I mean Shamrocks sword detached its heads and then spun around in the air
it's mythical fenrir it can probs do a lot
Yeah and that had something actually propelling it
Ragnir is just flying
No transformation at all
oda can do it
it's a zoan my guy
Yeah and according to you a dog zoan
What dog can just fly with no limbs
you telling me fenrir hammer will have a hammer for a head?
but i dont support it
ragnir is a homie made by carmel
I got more of my money on a Homie
Up dog can
if cerberus can fly
a mythical one
Cerberus has rockets propelling it
fenrir dog transform its pawns into hammers
that be kinda cool
Ragnir is just in it's normal state
ah yes the famous rocked propelled dog from greek myth
Yeah just bullshitting
You know I am right socrates
Not even gonna entertain theories like that
thats how cerberus hunted in ancient times
and just mad I predicted it
Is the hammer really a df? We literally didnt see any df form in that hammer when loki use it and it also doesn't speak again when he smashed the adam tree hell even bm soul is not one of it
TRUE
Ahh I wasn’t aware of this
I got my money on a Homie
Yes but it actually had something propelling it
it's a doggo
Jorul homie
Ragnir is just a hammer right now
That would be cool too
how ancient do you guys think this hammer is
It makes the most sense
So is ragnir protecting the legendary df?
Also why would Ragnir have a dog fruit, fly, and release lightning
Hammer
Well if its a homie the hammer shoulda talk tho and plus there should be some face on it
Mythic dog fruit
What myth
this is so funny
They tend to have extra abilities
mythical
im betting ragnir been around since the first world
What myth
I am sure there’s a mythical dog out there that can fly
Me too
I already went over fenrir
NIGGA THIS IS LITERALLY RAGNIR
smh my head
What myth
Previous user of that fruit may have got the hammer forged... likely 800-900 years ago
Why not
Yo that’s me
loki and fenrir vs shamrock and cerberous is peak
I would be okay with a Zoan fruit hammer too. Although giving Loki a Zoan and giving one to his hammer as well seems like putting a hat on a hat but eh, fuck it.
I'm asking "what myth" and I'm hearing crickets
SOCRATES
You ignore me
A Raiju is a dog like creature
Like you ignore the manga
Armenian aralez
Anyways I hope we get to see what methods Loki and Joyboy used to counter the Abyss regen/transformations
To fund your aganda
🫣
The hammer could be Magical bullshitery too and ancient weapon or some shit
Am I invisible guys?
There can be another possibility, like legendary Devil fruit is so op, psychically controlling the hammer to attack Loki, to test him.
Maybe enel ate the hammer hammer fruit and is the 2nd person that has eaten 2 df
Fenrir doesn't fly, and we don't know if the cerberus sword is a devil fruit power
must be the wind
how are you gonna definitely say that fenrir can not fly
But even if it is, Cerberus actually has to transform before it flies
Keep going
Can Loki get a logia or something
Nah
I want loki get something silly
why didn't ace notice blackbeard was evil here is he stupid
You know damn well its gonna be a Mythical Zoan
Like the jacket fruit but for hats
decoy fruit in the box
cope but maybe
I wonder if Loki's DF granted him a Haki technique that lets him counter the abyss like Joyboy could
it can be cool if it's not another animal we already seen
Only explanation for him being able to kill Harald imo
Also pretty cool how Loki got his first clash in the series 🥹
WDYm? Like another azure dragon?
ragnir was made with love
real
i dont want any canine/lupine/dragon/person mythicals
maybe even birds but birds are kinda ok to me still
what is this guy saying
they can do cats
snakes
horses
Everyone gave up on the power of love cause of what gaban said but I still haven’t
I still believe the power of love holds the real key
Cats 💔
everyone and their mom gets a clash
Loki gonna get something big lol.
Imagine fruit is being treasured since 800 years? And they are not using it, but waiting for someone worthy to use it..at the time of necessity.
So it gotta be something huge..one of the most op df there is.
cloud logia...
an unga bunga zoan like kaido is boring but when the zoan is basically a souped up paramecia like luffy's or killingham's it's pretty cool, hoping loki's falls into that category
Cap i didnt
its a mythical something
that can suck stuff
suck out imu inside body
Shakky got the power of love too
"What is this guy saying" as if I'm lying
Stand strong with me brother
You really just pick and choose what to react to
bro when oda reveals that loki's df is the fuckass wolf from nordic tales and ruins my cloud logia thing i'm going to be so sad
i have so much fun just quoting people that dont know about it
Sanji kills sommers
🙁
and ignore other factors
Raiju tbh it’s canine-esque and uses lightning
U speaking some fax
wait true
sanji will just hear nami and robin and just run there
I knew i was right to call u brother
Rob he hates theories that go against his own
So that crack appeared coz of clash between Herald and Loki. 
Raiju is called Thunder Beast
Ragnir is Iron Thunder
Iron Thunder Beast
He knows for a fact that fenrir can't fly so my theory is wrong
Yet Ragnir is in it's base form and all of the other transforming "DF weapons" need to transform to use their abilities
mega pikachu?
my crackhead schizo theory is that loki's fruit is the earth god zoan with power over the sky, but also based around thor and equipped with a powerset based around construction
thunder baguda
almost
You're laughing. There's a break next week and you're laughing.
it's gonna kill me
Raikou😭😭😭
True
How dare you respond to me after I ping you with a message

Ong the smile on my face just dropped
we have 2 weeks to talk about this
Anyways I need to see Loki's DF powersss
this shit is ruined for me bro lmao
You ignored my very next statement, I never denied he had a clash. I was saying it was nothing special cause eveyone gets one
Why
Mythical don’t need to transform to use their abilities they can be in base form. Kaidos scales protected him in base form, luffys body is made of rubber in base form and Marco could use his blue fire in base
Because ace is dead
Clash piece
thoughts on ragnir being a requirement making pluton?
I'm not saying it's special I'm saying it's his first

You do realize Oda doesn’t copy paste myths right?
Yamato’s fruit is based on a mythical deity that didn’t actually have freezing powers
theoretically if he eats it and instantly disappears in a cloud how would you react
So Loki can fly with his hammer too, just like Thor. 
And Ragnir just has everything in base form
Ragnir the goat
I bet Kinemon's sword was also a Devil Fruit with the fire god but it never transformed and it was always in it's base form
maybe that explains loki landing from the air
You tearing up seeing it says other wise, like a dad seeing his kid hit a home run

I guess hammer can change its form too
Apologies for using the wrong emoji I guess?
ah yes, the exaggerated claim to try and make our sensible theories look crazy
if loki spins the hammer fast enough he can fly
I wonder if the hammer could carry it's own weight
which fruit?
@woven talon We were right!
What where
physics lesgoo
?
Am I remembering wrong
I swear I remember someone on elbaf stealing something or some shit
The hammer
This just wasn't said 👀
Bean
nah that was all theory
You saw dreams 
I say it ate a dog fruit
Or whatever his name was
Oh ye someone laced my shit
No black figure was said to steal anything
It was happy someone visted it
Why dog?
It jumped at loki like a dog jumps at it's owner coming home
Now I gotta reread elbaf to see what I’m remembering wrong
Ooooooh, true lmao
Bruh
Oda can't let the fruit stolen now, that it has been kept for 800 years for Loki. 
what if it's a guard dog and it's protecting the fruit
I also just say it's fenrir
I just finished that movie Monkey King, this whole plot makes me think it might end up something like that
TRUE
I'd say whatever it is was capable of killing a Rocks equal
A GUARD DOG
about what

Plus loki and fenrir vs shamrock and Cerberus
Loki killing Harald
It’s a fucking wolf df isn’t it
Bean, I really be cooking
Shit is gonna be mid
oh shit ragnir dog also is an up for cloud logia since those can be from ragnir and it leaves loki free from the mythical zoan curse
could be
or anything with claws
There’s no way I just made up something getting stolen from elbaf
What tf am I remembering WHERE DI I GET THIS FROM
thats why the dragon one is kinda possible
3 claws
Loki
What is bro reading 💔
what has 3 claws anyway
Ragnir is meant to guard the fruit and if loki eats the fruit it helps protect loki
ok i have to say something
if we are doing fenrir vs cerberus we should just do orthrus vs cerberus
ahh
Someone deffo laced my blunt💔

surely a wolf has more than 3 claws
maby those scrachis iare from king harld turning into a demond like rocks did
Orthrus btw
Loki gonna spend all of next chapter fighting the hammer 💔
He’s valid
funny you say that
demon rocks dint have claws iirc
or any of the giants
that is cookin as well
That shit was ridiculous and honestly the beginning of the end
I would love that even. Wanna see Loki fight
dog fruit stays winning
It's like worse Cerberus wow
LOL
Bro I don’t wanna see him fight a hammer
thats 4 claws
what the hell more heads isnt better
Cerberus if he was a bumass fraud
the end of one piece ?
its his sibling 
His sibling sucks
It would be cool , need to know what are the abilities of hammer
No wonder they chose cerberus
Shamrock wins again?
ragnir and fenrir is close enough
aha! found lokis DF
3 perfect claws
Eh no, Loki is not a bum like this
BB claws
Do they have a connection in the mythology?
NO CLUE
Crying is insane
he really likes Kid
This was the first major sign in recent one piece that shanks is the all knowing godking peacekeeper who patrols the seas and makes sure all pirates are on good behavior (while he indulges in said behavior)
I get it lowkenuinely
That's actually kidd's #1 fan
I didn’t watch the video but I support him
I think the legendary fruit may have some Psychic abilities too. It is time Oda will introduce it
the goat fr
most awaited western dragon
imagine the size of a dragon if its loki
Interesting
Man shanks is a bit of a bum for an all knowing god king
He let ace, his “brother”, die
it's haki
Would genuinely be the size of a realm
it's always haki
That was calculated on his part
it's never not haki
Hm so Loki and Joyboy must've used a certain technique
Bro is NOT the captain of the 5th company
finally prophesy fulfilled
Will there ever be a point in time when Shanks isn't too late?
Will he ever make it in time?
Imu is dragon
Fuck no
Ace called Whitebeard his dad, so situation had changed. They no longer brothers
Maybe Loki's DF granted him Haki proficiency with the same technique as Joyboy's
Why can everyone find bb except shanks
Shanks was late on purpose then 😭
Someone gotta be lying
He was probably late because he ran into some rookie pirate crew and decided they must be obliterated for no good reason
Who's ready for my idea
No you didn't meek
Brace for impact....
I’ve braced
I guess that’s what him and Mihawk bond over though
Meek you have never figuired anything out ever
Also it's kinda cool how unreliant Loki is on his fruit, the guy has gone through so much for 6 years and is still chilling
They both spawn camp the same sea
Good catch
Yo why do shanks and Mihawk only turn up on people they 1000% know they 1 shotting😭
bro, you gotta chill
like lmao
I wonder if Loki will ever choose to just not use his fruit like Kaido does at times
Kidd has surpassed rookie at this point
SEE
The whole plotline about Loki discovering the hidden treasure of Elbaf and the fruit inside the chest is a MICROCOSM (or should I say MACROCOSM) of the whole story - The chest represents the OP treasure as a microcosm of the whole story. The plotline is a macrocosm of the Gaimon arc - the treasures on his island were empty.
**THERE IS NO FRUIT IN THE CHEST. **
It makes sense tho. Ace wanted only one dad, not all Roger pirates as his dad. Can't blame Ace for his choice.
bro
Shanks we know u know where bb is 😭😭
Wdym
@hazy turret @sage temple @wet condor
He's only been out there for a few years but he's way ahead of people who've been doing this their whole lives
I fw this
Yikes
Fun fact: shanks don't have conq haki, he was borrowing knots from rayleigh and gaban
Those things were like Rudolph's nose in that one scene
THE CHEST IS EMPTY
Is rookie not determined based on time?
why is meek talking about gaimon
The elbaf treasure is a parallel to the OP treasure and Gaimon's treasure
Imagine Shanks appeared in Elbaf now, and he has to follow IMU orders..it would become Shanks vs Luffy.
u saying he gone mad till that chapter drop and we get kung fu pandad
So both evil and pushover Harald just don't know what's inside his own castle
You are hurting yourself
Yes
i told you meek
ragnir is the DF all a long
This is true
It is lol. He's better than most OGs
meek can spam all he wants huh

Meek stand on your shit 💯
Yeah he can for some reason
I will credit you with this if it happens
You guys just disagree with my theory - calling spam on it
And if you talk about it the mods will punish you instead of Meek
He really does, I wish he got muted sometimes for it

dude that guy reacting to kidd getting destroyed was SO funny
oi
ig if you produce slop translations on a weekly basis you get protection or something
Meek deserves these privileges
Dude never stops spamming
Damn why everyone hate meek😭😭💔
we play favorites here
I wish there were at least some equality
😭😭💔
most sane kidd fan
They still can't lift the hammer. Only Loki can.
He's been providing server entertainment for years at this point
but it's very valid they destroyed his goat
Lets stop before the mods tell us to stop talking about the rules Meek has broken
cause he does stuff like this
aite man probably for the best
I ain't afraid of any mod
It's like the police telling you not to talk about someone committing murder
these 3 mfs hate my guts bro. this is some garling behavior

bro self reacting now 😭
I'm trying to get on their good side so I'll stop for now or will I 
Meek, I don't hate you. I just hate your theories and your liked youtubers
I MISS KANG
Lmfao!
WHERE MY NIGGA KANG TAESHIK
what happened to kang
💔💔
btw I was lowkey cooking back in the day
He needs to get people to support him easier

Oh there's Rokaya I wonder if he's here to enforce rules or not as a mod
You cannot rage bait me
No, no you were not
i kinda like this guy he funny sometimes
Nah u right
he actually banned?
@kangtaeshik
rokaya breaks more rules than anyone here
what rules did bro break
Rokaya's a woman lol
I think he left cause they kept telling him to stop posting gfs and self reacting

They took away his freedom of expression
I ask you guys what her gender is every month and it's always different
what if rokaya is lying about that like everything else
I was told it was a he in november I swear

I'm being deadass. I'm not pulling your leg actually
It is crazy
The biggest Garp fan
how many layers of lies is rokaya on
he?
👎
Do they even like one piece
Imagine hating Warp
Is it ur birthday
“My Justice”
That man literally just living life as he pleases 
Tough ngl
morality police
Are we rocking with the colorspread?
Why
It rocks
is that supposed to be a joke
The color spread is lowk basic
That wasn’t on purpose I just didn’t want to say “fucking with”
The MC
I often think about things that extend further than humanity allows
Man what the hell that mean
See?
Youre sooooo funny
You think about meek?
That wasn’t on purpose ☹️
I rock with Big Mom sharing food with her bestie
That was Oda telling us they are the otp of the old gen
Wasting her time chasing Roger btw
she is an elder now
big mom is so bad
chill on her
I was laughing for a good 3 minutes lmao
she got her shit together
I mean she is an antagonist yes
Present BM Stussy and Gloriosa..
Meek is immortal

Oda massacred
Say it
How so
Let a nigga like me handle em
the only big mom gif
Its a safe color spread
they lost the alt reality roulette
How couldnt this be good
only this and bonney pops up for prime big mom 😭
Well he shrunk two of them
Who wants to hear a fun fact about the color spread
Gloriosa won her heart btw
And BM well
I’m all ears
If he oda wanted to swing for the fences he wouldve had them playing beach volleyball
Anyone saying it isn't good is just being a contrarian
no
People are saying its bad? Lmao
He’s saving that for the blackbeard pirates
HAAHAHAHAHA
I think most like it
Like that one Artist on Twitter
This is legit one of those times I think you could only say if you're hating just to hate
Yeah but a fanartist already did it Oda would be stealing