also-manga

[formal wagon]

[brittle basin]

nuh uh, AI gave me the right answer.

[unique lagoon]

Nash is such hip name

[cloud adder]

ill never forget the peak of loki's intro chapter, my goda

[formal wagon]

im gonna be honest i miss iscat

[runic dock]

See so a homie hammer is equally as possible as a df hammer

[unique lagoon]

Nash sound like he would do a kickflip

[fallen meteor]

Svallin hype

[rose rune]

canon

[runic dock]

Sounds like he would play basketball

[cloud adder]

draugr incoming

[brittle basin]

i think it's related to wrestling. I want to say the WCW or WWE had a character named Nash. 'cause Goldberg was also a wrestler from the WCW

[tranquil blade]

There's already been a Draugr

[unique lagoon]

hold up

[vital heart]

hi

[unique lagoon]

kevin nash?

[cloud adder]

oh wait, it was one of the nightmares right?

[fallen meteor]

draugrnir

[vital heart]

HOLY SHI

HOLY SHIT

NEW NAME

[unique lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/kevin-nash-entrance-wcw-champion-wcw-nitro-gif-17081805

[runic dock]

Yes Kevin

[vital heart]

Ragnir = JB (Joyboy) VC (Vice Captain)

[hot cairn]

Ragnir is not a homie anyway

[tranquil blade]

Yes

[vital heart]

Ragnir = JB (Joyboy) VC (Vice Captain)

[tranquil blade]

SHhhhh

[runic dock]

Goldberg an Nash is some WCW shit for sure

[unique lagoon]

i have no idea how i still remember these names
but i do

[formal wagon]

hmmmmm

[cloud adder]

flashback so long, ill need to re-read the pre-flashback when we're back in current time

[brittle basin]

@random hinge My best friend fell for the Mortal Kombat joke hook, line, and sinker.

[runic dock]

We’ll see

[random hinge]

it's a good one

[brittle basin]

Kevin Nash! Yeah, that was it!

[unique lagoon]

aint no way big mom got hold of ragnir

[runic dock]

This is as close as I’ll get to homie wheel jinbei

[hot cairn]

we already got confirmation that it wasn’t laughing check the pins. It’s just spoiler provider agenda

[runic dock]

Oh yeah that part doesn’t matter

It doesn’t need to laugh to be true lol

[urban lodge]

It's kinda crazy how often this happens

[runic dock]

Be true*

Like that’s hardly relevant

[hot cairn]

but it isn’t tho

[runic dock]

The point is it moves on its own

[runic dock]

That’s fine idc if it laughs lol

[unique lagoon]

ragnir is actually ancient tech
ragnir is uranus all along

[cloud adder]

[hot cairn]

nah I mean that it isn’t a homie

[final trench]

Wouldnt mind it tbh

[runic dock]

We don’t know that , the point being since it moves on its own , that already narrows it down to two options

[unique lagoon]

what if imu just has a second pluton flying in the air

[runic dock]

Homie or fruit

[hot cairn]

btw earl you’re earl of 50 what?

[runic dock]

Both equally fun and possible

[hot cairn]

50 earls?

[runic dock]

50 cent

[thick mango]

I wouldn't mind injecting some one piece silliness into edgelord serious business loki

[unique lagoon]

the silliness is ragnir is the DF

invest in this

[brittle basin]

what if ragnir is a mysterious rock?

[formal wagon]

THIS TBH

[runic dock]

Boring!

A rock!?

Come on at least add fortnite to it

[brittle basin]

What if Ragnir is a mysterious sock?

[runic dock]

Now we’re talking

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/mick-foley-sock-mask-wrestling-wwe-gif-16242957

[fallen meteor]

thats better but you can elevate it

[thick mango]

If ragnir and the df are awesome I wonder if "carried by df and weapon" slander Will start about loki

[brittle basin]

it will

it always does

and Socrates will lose it

[runic dock]

Loki vs shamrock

Df weapon frauds

[unique lagoon]

yeah thats def happening

[cloud adder]

loki is already nepo baby, whats a little df merchant on top

[blazing depot]

My favorite obscure One Piece fact is that Mick Foley knows of Spandam’s existence

[unique lagoon]

we dont even know what his special eyes do

[brittle basin]

wait. that is a neat and obscure fact.

HOLD ON

[unique lagoon]

surely that will pay off later

[brittle basin]

waitwaitwait

this whole time, was Spandam based on Mankind and my slow ass just now realized this?!

[fallen meteor]

yeah

[cloud adder]

loki probably doesnt even know if his eyes give him some special ability since he's been hiding them for so long

[brittle basin]

omg......

[runic dock]

Imagine Loki gives one eye to Zoro

That would be so cool

[brittle basin]

I might be mentally handicapped.

[unique lagoon]

you havent seen the OP comparison before?

[fallen meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/mick-foley-mask-wwe-wrestling-gif-16242958

[fallen meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-enies-lobby-cp9-water7-water-7-gif-9778754411785017174

[brittle basin]

i've known mankind all my life and I just now made this connection

[unique lagoon]

very old image

[blazing depot]

Half of this is bullshit lol

Like MJ is not Hody

[brittle basin]

a good chunk of these I know. but. are we sure about the George Clooney one? Also, I thought Jango was MJ?

like yeah everyone knows enel/eminem

[unique lagoon]

oh theres a bigger one

[brittle basin]

but a few of these I don't know and can't confirm

[final trench]

The big wise inspired ivankov

How bout it

[unique lagoon]

most of these are fan made anyway

[runic dock]

This exact same image has been circulated ever since Enies lobby lol

[brittle basin]

The Daft Punk one is especially funny after VP's reveal

[unique lagoon]

yeah it is ancient

[runic dock]

Michael Jackson being hody will always be peak

[brittle basin]

All these stars should sue Oda even from the grave smh.

https://tenor.com/view/he-cant-keep-getting-away-with-it-fed-up-done-upset-angry-gif-15272555

[runic dock]

Paulie being one random but specific Hugo Boss model is hilarious too

[unique lagoon]

like Atlas looks like shes from an old cartoon

[runic dock]

Very jojo

[brittle basin]

Astro Boy

[dense rapids]

Heehee

[runic dock]

Definitely Astro boy just not like exactly but the vibe is the same

[unique lagoon]

yeah that works

[digital spear]

You can see how Bon Clay and Franky are two versions of Jim Carry because they were both voiced by Kazuki Yao

[blazing depot]

Franky is definitely Ace Ventura

Idk about Bon Clay

[runic dock]

Oda really went schizo with Steven Tyler , he gave half of his style to Jango but also gave Michael Jackson to jango , but also gave Steven Tyler to diamante

[digital spear]

https://tenor.com/view/dumb-and-dumber-dumb-and-dumber-gif-dumbanddumber-jim-carrey-jimcarrey-gif-8891008071798009013

[blazing depot]

I mean bowl cuts aren’t exclusive to him

[blazing mantle]

https://x.com/preterniadotcom/status/2001807052868362468?s=46&t=xqTRFjOpGPXvspMEXJrHhg

preternia (@preterniadotcom)

Bandai S.H.Figuarts Lakers Luffy, preorders coming soon.

X · Dec 19, 2025, 12:09 AM

[brittle basin]

it's definitely Jim Carrey from Dumb and Dumber, it's too similar.

and the dates kind of match

[runic dock]

Back then it was

[brittle basin]

early-mid 90s film and then OP is started a few years later.

[runic dock]

Now every Gen Z is getting it unironically

[digital spear]

yeah thats why I said two versions of Jim Carrey

[unique lagoon]

ok i found an even bigger list

[sage temple]

Early sketch proves rat traits?

[blazing depot]

Where is that concept art from

I keep seeing it

[unique lagoon]

[runic dock]

Probably op magazine

[brittle basin]

Bro. BRO. When my wife and I saw fucking mullets of all things making a comeback, objectively the worst hairstyle in the history of mankind, I genuinely couldn't believe what I was seeing.

[dense haven]

lmfaooo where is that kid picture from

[runic dock]

I suffered with my bowl cut so these mf’s could show it off 😔

[urban lodge]

It's Sabaody Kid

[brittle basin]

every kid in the 90s was forced to endure that shit

[dense haven]

no I mean the irl

[brittle basin]

it looks like a power rangers bad guy

[digital spear]

I thought he and the tiger were talking first

[unique lagoon]

steve buscemi as sanji is wild

[pine scaffold]

Rocks is the goat

[dense haven]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/576037931999952919/983595314546085918/974200922412572682.gif

[digital spear]

Oda said that in an

[unique lagoon]

wait real?

[runic dock]

Koby being young Leonardo DiCaprio is such bs lmao

[brittle basin]

Sanji was based on Taz, the actor, from the future.

[blazing depot]

I assumed Sanji was based on Leo no?

[digital spear]

Yeah Sanji is based on Mr. Pink from Reservoir Dogs who is played by Steve Buscemi

[dense haven]

sanjis og name was naruto

[runic dock]

No , but there really is a Mr pink quote somewhere about him

[blazing depot]

The domino effect of Naruto being a thing causing the quadruples plotline 20 years later

[runic dock]

Senor pink and Sanji could never meet for this reason

[unique lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/smallest-violin-funny-lol-booger-gif-14983807

[runic dock]

😔

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/naruto-one-piece-club-one-piece-gif-21047792

[digital spear]

D: Oda-sensei, hello. In regards to Sanji, I feel that he looks like Leonardo DiCaprio-san from the western movie, "Romeo and Juliet". My friends say I'm dead wrong. Is Sanji's appearance based on someone in particular?? P.N. Noel

O: People used to guess DiCaprio a lot, in the past. But the truth is that Sanji has a much more unusual model. I might not go as far as to say "model", but I hoped to have a bit of this person's vibes come through. It's Steve Buscemi, as he appeared in the movie "Reservoir Dogs". Cool, huh? Someone at Bandai was the only one to guess correctly, a while back.

[brittle basin]

no way

[runic dock]

An then Oda was like fuck it I’ll do it again with Senor Pink

[brittle basin]

i would've never guessed

[unique lagoon]

look at barto

[digital spear]

Is that just made up

[unique lagoon]

prob

[runic dock]

Mr pink was actually somewhat handsome

Tbh

[unique lagoon]

even DMX is there

[brittle basin]

it's not even handsomeness, it's just that I never expected young buscemi

[fast pagoda]

I better see Harald breaking down in tears next chapter confessing his love for Rocks

[pine scaffold]

Please Oda I need this

[digital spear]

Fact: Tarantino broke up with Steve Buscemi because he found Leo hotter and used him for his future movies instead

[pine scaffold]

We need more Rocks

Show us a scene of Harald and Rocks

[graceful grove]

Slim Mom looks so cute here

[unique lagoon]

time to purge my YT history i guess

[fallen meteor]

man if joyboy doesnt have a full beard this might be the wrongest theory of all time

everybody that wants to draw him does a big full beard

[fast pagoda]

Why is he green

Why is mars blond

[unique lagoon]

who knows dint click

[fast pagoda]

Why is saturns hair black

Who tf colored thsi

[digital spear]

Theyre supposed to look young but they dont have the skills to make them actually look young

[graceful grove]

oda is saving this version for Gear death. i knew it

[digital spear]

So they just gave up on Nusjuro

[pine scaffold]

wheres topman

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-saint-topman-warcury-intro-title-card-saint-topman-warcury-topman-warcury-st-warcury-gif-5414042910152365497

This pose is so clean

[digital spear]

Too fat for verical

[pine scaffold]

HE AINT FAT

its muscle

[frail kindle]

fat

[pine scaffold]

isnt this bodyshaming?

[unique lagoon]

queen said the same thing
but he was made of metal

[rose brook]

hes big boned

[pine scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-emet-emet-one-piece-emeth-emeth-one-piece-gif-14538905301935927081

[tranquil blade]

Why are they so big

I swear the gorosei just get bigger every single chapter in Egghead

[pine scaffold]

Oda pisses me off sometimes

[tranquil blade]

It becomes like comical by the end of the arc

[fallen meteor]

https://fixupx.com/Dannymans66/status/2001812243579801796?s=20

Danny🍓|Comms full| (@Dannymans66)

Big Mom looks so cute #ONEPIECE1169

Quoting Pookie (@PookiePiece)
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FixupX · Dec 19, 2025, 12:30 AM

[dense haven]

awooga

[tranquil blade]

I need her

[pine scaffold]

what

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-drool-gif-24399822

[urban lodge]

Holy

[craggy vapor]

beginning of fat big mom

[tranquil blade]

You wouldnt get it

[pine scaffold]

PLEASE STAY CONSISTENT WITH SIZES

[pine scaffold]

Yeah I literally wouldnt 😭

[fast pagoda]

This fanart is so peak

[grand flower]

Ugh the voices are homicidal today

[fallen meteor]

his cloud aura

[fast pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/brook-heart-eyes-one-piece-anime-funny-anime-gif-26589010

[sage temple]

One of the most aura we've seen radiate from a One Piece character ever ngl

[graceful grove]

strussen will pay for his crimes

[pine scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-egghead-cipher-pol-fire-sandworm-gif-2037019773706193679

[dense haven]

worst design ever

[pine scaffold]

Rocks, Shanks and Loki

Biggest aurafarmers of One Piece

[graceful grove]

slither.io looking ass

[pine scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-egghead-luffy-gear-5-gear-fifth-gif-6092594160336271519

[prisma idol]

Sb complaining about Scaling this far into One Piece...

[frigid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/egghead-one-piece-gear-5-gear-fifth-luffy-gif-9132945308222486717

[pine scaffold]

The gorosei in particular are egregious tho

[dense haven]

oda has to pay for his mistakes

[pine scaffold]

like not even the anime bothers with the sizes

https://tenor.com/view/gorosei-dorry-and-broggy-egghead-one-piece-gif-14619775225793918249

[prisma idol]

Oda has no control over the anime and if they follow his Scaling (pr lack there of)

[pine scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/egghead-one-piece-gorosei-five-elders-sandworm-gif-14995644640442635894

like look at this

[tranquil blade]

I mean thats not that egregious

[prisma idol]

All oda cares about is "is this character bigger than this character" not that they are consistently the same size as long as they stay bigger. There may be a few times where he does genuinely screw up scaling but for the most part he keeps characters bigger than others

[pine scaffold]

bad example my bad

[digital spear]

people of manga we need to rally up

[prisma idol]

Sb just wants to complain rn

[digital spear]

we need to wage war against fortnite

[pine scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-emet-emet-one-piece-emeth-emeth-one-piece-gif-5119047408128849278

[digital spear]

they will put everything in fortnite except one piece

[digital spear]

us pulling up to fortnite hq

[prisma idol]

The reason there isn't a OP fortnite collab is because they are making 2 full seasons of fortnite dedicated to OP pre and post ts

[pine scaffold]

if you're in fortnite, you are in the big leagues.

https://tenor.com/view/clober-gojo-gif-7922651183500592436

[tranquil blade]

one piece not being in fortnite is a sign it fell off

[digital spear]

One Piece deserves this. Fortnite is disrespecting us.

[tranquil blade]

Who is this

[pine scaffold]

even JJK my fav manga ever is in Fortnite

[frail kindle]

fortnite? more like snorenite

[digital spear]

didnt they do this with others

[prisma idol]

JJK is such a snooze

[prisma idol]

Not that I know of

I know they do full seasons with themes but not to specific series

[blazing depot]

Ok JJK being your favorite explains so much about you

[prisma idol]

Except maybe the simpsons...

[pine scaffold]

?

[frail kindle]

dunno why you're questioning it, Sb

it does make sense

[grand flower]

I think

Ima def read into Gaban and Garp being in touch

[prisma idol]

Therefore you are

[grand flower]

Honesty impact- orca

[prisma idol]

Gaban and Garp are close frfr, Gaban saved garps in GV and started their friendship life frfr

[digital spear]

-cipherpol agent spying on Garps suspicious activities

[tranquil blade]

Is Garp his sneaky link

[pine scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/franky-fortnite-one-piece-fortnite-franky-victory-royale-one-piece-victory-royale-gif-5438025852796863419

[digital spear]

old man yaooi

[hot cairn]

it says a lot about you really

[digital spear]

one piece invented fortnite and they wont even look at us

WE MADE FORTNITE

[pine scaffold]

Ngl I dont like this attitude

[tranquil blade]

Tuff

[hot cairn]

do something about it

[digital spear]

YOU AND I, YES SB, YOU AND I CREATED FRTONITE WITH OUR VERY HANDS

[craggy vapor]

Fortnite is doomed

[tranquil blade]

You almost made a dastardly missspelling of fortnite

but it is cooked either way fortnite fell off

[prisma idol]

What is Frtonite? And is it fun?

[blazing depot]

I’m a Fortnite boomer tbh

[digital spear]

I dont dont know what you mean

[blazing depot]

I haven’t played since like 2019

[pine scaffold]

wat

[blazing depot]

Back in my day we didn’t have collabs

[tranquil blade]

I havent played since 2018 tbh

[prisma idol]

I played for about 3-4 seasons starting with season 3

I havent played since like 2018

[urban lodge]

I haven't played since that Thanos event back in like 2019

[blazing depot]

Back in my day we all rushed tilted

[glacial bear]

That’s a cool sticker

[rose rune]

I played like one game, and took over the controller for someone going to the toilet once

[craggy vapor]

I hate Fortnite and it needs to die (only because I’m bad at it tho).

[tranquil blade]

Back in my day it took 15 minutes for something to happen unless you dropped in tilted

[prisma idol]

Indeed I was a bit worried

[blazing depot]

It’s super funny seeing these 6 year olds begging epic to bring it back 😭

That mode is older than you

[hot cairn]

me neither

[pine scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-satoru-gojo-fortnite-dance-clober-gif-14608657973290298062

[urban lodge]

Lmao

[hot cairn]

I used to play in high school with some friends

[tranquil blade]

I'm a fortnite aunt but the game really wasnt my thing

[hot cairn]

JJK is in fornite? Wtf

[craggy vapor]

can u stop post this annoying gif?

[tranquil blade]

Who is this

[pine scaffold]

yes bruh its the biggest manga ever

[pine scaffold]

HOW IS IT ANNOYING

WHATS ANNOYING

[urban lodge]

Oh yeah Bleach is in Fortnite now

[tranquil blade]

Sb can you answer my question

[hot cairn]

is it the only manga/anime in Fortnite?

[hot cairn]

oh

[prisma idol]

The worst written character in fiction

[pine scaffold]

nah

theres tons more

[craggy vapor]

THE STUPID DANCE

[pine scaffold]

just not One Piece lol

[pine scaffold]

its funny

[craggy vapor]

no

[prisma idol]

Mods can we ban SB for other series

[urban lodge]

They have standardized heights so some characters get made taller which is really fucking funny

[tranquil blade]

I'll take your word for it

[prisma idol]

I am never wrong

[tranquil blade]

That might be true

[pine scaffold]

in terms of writing, that character clears One Piece

Goodbye!

[brittle basin]

What are you gonna Goku about it, you little Naruto?

[tranquil blade]

Who is that character sb

[prisma idol]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-dog-laughing-rabid-dog-angrefacecolon3-silly-dog-gif-14515200268283964253

[blazing depot]

Mogged

[tranquil blade]

That's a really scary dog

[glacial bear]

I love Sunny in Philly

[wraith mantle]

we getting a chapter next week?

[digital spear]

Dragonball MHA Naruto JJK Demon Slayer COWBOY MOTHERFUCKING BEBOP and now Bleach. and STILL NO ONE PIECE. thats why im mad

[prisma idol]

No

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/blowing-gif-26376931

[wraith mantle]

i heard something about them being leaked early

[runic dock]

Charlie would have CoC and not know he has it , just like zoro

[tranquil blade]

They recognized the peak that is cowboy bebop but still no one piece is an L

[blazing depot]

I’d argue he’s like Sanji since he’s always trying to get with the waitress

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-kirk-gguh-trending-meme-charlie-kirk-gif-260876314022351132

[prisma idol]

Possible but not garunteed, for example we didnt get any last year

[wraith mantle]

garunteed

[digital spear]

this means war

this is a declaration of war

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/view/tuff-ai-kitten-ai-kitten-larry-larry-ai-gif-5850789617517185518

[digital spear]

their tower of babel will fall

[prisma idol]

I spelled it wrong enough times my autocorrect fixes it to the wrong spelling

[tranquil blade]

I kinda wish the tower of babel was real it would be cool

[prisma idol]

Which is hilarious

[wraith mantle]

yeah ngl fuck that word

[brittle basin]

I was there.

[dense haven]

we should try to make another tower of babel

[brittle basin]

A digital tower of babel.

[dense haven]

maybe god will smite everyone for real now

[runic dock]

Made of RAM

it’s already happening

We’re doomed

[wraith mantle]

ok but like

[tranquil blade]

Someone's probably already made it on like roblox

[wraith mantle]

can oda hire more assistants

[tranquil blade]

Theoretically

[wraith mantle]

and stick to a proper weekly schedule

[brittle basin]

NO

[wraith mantle]

cause like fuck these breaks

[digital spear]

wait .. this is what the internet is leading to. all the hints are there...

[prisma idol]

Guys if rocks was really that cool and strong, why did he die? Only bums die, every last one of them.

[wraith mantle]

you calling WB a bum?

[prisma idol]

Yes

[runic dock]

He didn’t have enough Usopp aura

[digital spear]

we are becoming international but also degenerate

[blazing depot]

Weren’t people calling Whitebeard a bum for running from Garp??

If I’m not mistaken

[wraith mantle]

in your quest to slander rocks, you made yourself look foolish

[tranquil blade]

More like hubris is kicking in

[digital spear]

we destroy ourselves

[tranquil blade]

They were calling him runbeard

[prisma idol]

WB is a bum, he ran from helping rocks out in GV, and then died a bum to the Marines in Marineford

[blazing depot]

https://tenor.com/view/syndrome-incredibles-and-when-everyone-is-super-no-one-will-be-gif-3791257052170976251

And when everyone is a bum… no one is…

[prisma idol]

We need to learn to stick to our ideas

[tranquil blade]

and they were saying the reason he never got a coward's wound was because he ran so fast no one could ever hit him

[runic dock]

@grand flower https://youtu.be/6EiaCYumODs?si=K-RN-h9jXLDFQ32H

[tranquil blade]

Shuron has seen it before I believe

[prisma idol]

Bellemere? Bum
Hiriluk? Bum
Olvia? Bum

[vital heart]

a

[urban lodge]

Olvia one is true

[runic dock]

I wasn’t there

[vital heart]

fuck

[tranquil blade]

Watch it on the burn scar man

[vital heart]

fuck

[runic dock]

Every mother? Bum

[prisma idol]

Did Shuron send his theory enough times to morj he finally did a video on it?

[prisma idol]

Yes

Ida is a bum

[runic dock]

This is a reverse of his theory

[prisma idol]

You know which Mom isn't a bum

[runic dock]

Luffy isn’t involved in time traveling here

Just the op itself

[prisma idol]

DADAN

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/rocks-pirates-one-piece-god-valley-flag-pirate-flag-gif-18117803035050589656

[blazing depot]

https://tenor.com/view/4lokogangemperor-coal-gems-soyjak-soyjack-gif-11252992701973331860

[runic dock]

I thought you were gonna say big mom

[prisma idol]

Nah they all are bums as they all are dead

[wraith mantle]

anyone else thinks god valley was pretty low stakes?

[prisma idol]

Only Stussy isn't a bum

[wraith mantle]

bro doesn't know big mom and kaido are still alive

[tranquil blade]

https://tenor.com/view/coal-wojak-cold-coal-mine-gif-10545465178443960870

[prisma idol]

Big Mom and Kaido are dead

[runic dock]

Rocks whole family lineage was on the line , what you waffling about?

[haughty saddle]

Stussy is a bum now tbf

She can’t do shit

[tranquil blade]

Stussy is an actual bum

[blazing depot]

Yall aren’t ready for Molten Big Mom

[prisma idol]

Big Mom fans ability to cope that she is still kicking impresses me

[wraith mantle]

yeah but we know teech survives

[blazing depot]

Put more respect on Whitebeard’s beloved baby mama 😤

[haughty saddle]

I wonder if this is how far Oda planned on going with the character. When was she even first introduced?

[wraith mantle]

as readers it was pretty low stakes

[rose rune]

time to post a gif that looks like ai, but isn't

[runic dock]

They could have wiped out the bucanneers and the Davys in one fell swoop here , and almost did except for 1 member of each

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/hungarian-damascus-goat-hungarian-dinner-weird-animals-gif-15805375

[prisma idol]

WE DONT READ

[tranquil blade]

Whitebeard dont fw her like that she's trying to force it

[runic dock]

Knowing they survived doesn’t erase the stakes given

[haughty saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/wizard-cat-cat-fat-cat-witch-cat-funny-gif-17184002081031284995

[glacial bear]

Cat

[wraith mantle]

hmm i see

[haughty saddle]

Not AI if you can believe it

[prisma idol]

Our information only comes from the Auraful pictures and the wiki we read 6 months after release

[tranquil blade]

I cannot believe you cam

[wraith mantle]

i kinda disagree but its probably subjective

[prisma idol]

And our opinions are formed by the shitters on Piratefolk

[runic dock]

I only read chatgpt it’s pointless to look at the wiki

[wraith mantle]

who hurt you

[prisma idol]

So true and based

[haughty saddle]

You just don’t know any magic cats

[brittle basin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/738580480437387264/1319474878851846268/ezgif-5-ed8d47a120.gif

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/mom-jeans-aquad-tina-fey-amy-poehler-gif-11199478

[tranquil blade]

I luckily havent ran into anyone who just uses chatgpt 24/7 but I'm gonna be really disappointed when I do

[brittle basin]

oof, those short 90s haircuts

[wraith mantle]

no one does that

internet just loves to hate on imaginary things

[brittle basin]

real chatgpt response

[tranquil blade]

No some people definitely do that

[prisma idol]

Have yall heard of the reverse slander technique in where they put the sora ai logo on an actual feat to make it look made up

[tranquil blade]

That's definitely a thing

[wraith mantle]

how do you know

[runic dock]

My mom and her friends in the 90s

[brittle basin]

oh god

i've never watched sora outside what one friend showed me i'm proud to say

[runic dock]

A lot in my generation use chatgpt as a third arm

[tranquil blade]

I've heard experiences about it from people I know I just havent met someone like that myself

[prisma idol]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-storm-scream-monkey-scream-flying-monkey-gif-3986330502538701283

[wraith mantle]

use it for what tho?

[brittle basin]

so this is real but they added sora to it?

[wraith mantle]

as a substitute for google?

[runic dock]

Like any random thought they have or question they look up

[prisma idol]

Yeah it's real

[tranquil blade]

No that's for sure ai

[runic dock]

Yes but a little more than that

[prisma idol]

Avery is lying

[tranquil blade]

Bluko is probably not telling the truth

[runic dock]

They go into specific questions Google used to not be able to answer , but probably can answer now with AI search

But everyone is on it

[prisma idol]

I dont lie

I could never

[wraith mantle]

ngl after i asked chatgpt about stuff that i am knowledgable on, i realized it is fucking trash

[brittle basin]

i'm starting to think the real joke is you say it's real stuff with sora added onto it to trick people but then you post actual ai to further the joke and mess with me even more. i'm onto your shenanigans. the gulags await thee.

[runic dock]

Lmfao

[tranquil blade]

W Buffy W Perceptiveness W Speed

[runic dock]

The median response is not always the correct one

[wraith mantle]

it looks really neat and formatted but the content is dogshit wrapped in catshit

[blazing depot]

AI is actually forced as hell especially in big corporations

[runic dock]

They gathered enough data for you to conclude people don’t know what they’re talking about

[prisma idol]

Well the reverse slander technique applies only to anime, so let's say they take the scene where law cuts punk hazard, they slap a sora Ai logo on it and boom RST

[blazing depot]

I did a tour of a Microsoft office a few months ago and they’re all forced to hit copilot quotas

[rose rune]

I am sorry that you haven't gotten to experience a person that only replies using chat gpt 24/7 — chat gpt is a useful tool that can both help someone with dyslexia, and make life easier for your average person
— some even find love through chat gpt

[tranquil blade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/850784215774789655/1448773333251391689/IMG_0459.gif

[blazing depot]

The Microsoft CEO is insane too. He doesn’t listen to podcasts he has AI summarize them

[wraith mantle]

probably useful for software prototyping

[brittle basin]

To be fair, One Piece fans deserve to experience this.

[tranquil blade]

They'll do anything if it means they can fire workers

[fallen meteor]

@grok please summarize the last 2 hours of #also-manga

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/uffa-gif-27431770

[rose rune]

had to google the long ass chatgpt lines before I typed that

[blazing depot]

There’s a few use cases but they literally have copilot and agents vibe code everything

[wraith mantle]

i mean

specialized AI is probably cool

[fallen meteor]

yum, icecream

[prisma idol]

I LOVE DESTROYING THE PLANET AND USING ALL THE WATER IN MY AREA

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/shit-shit2-bald-spin-dance-gif-20345206

[blazing depot]

I think the issue is a lot of business and executive people think AI can do everything and everything

[sage temple]

That's just saving time though

[prisma idol]

https://tenor.com/view/maya-fey-ace-attorney-maya-happy-sway-gif-4602274179908409081

[fallen meteor]

whats one piece log again

anyways cool art

[blazing depot]

It’s like a scalpel but they’re treating it like a Swiss Army knife

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/ice-cream-ube-ice-cream-dessert-sweets-gif-26778815

[blazing depot]

Basically blu ray boxsets of arcs

[wraith mantle]

hmm does AI actually have a big impace on water consumption?

[sage temple]

Can you write an essay in 5 seconds

[fallen meteor]

this is probably good as fuuuuuck

[brittle basin]

amazing

[prisma idol]

Yes

[rose rune]

I recognize these colors. it's a poison type pokemon

[brittle basin]

my favorite flavor: purple and green

[wraith mantle]

really?

like how

[sage temple]

It doesn't feel like it. Virginia has the most data centers and it's not like we're going through a drought

[fallen meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/green-green-goblin-spider-man-spectacular-spider-man-gif-9207925802807557150

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/miss-goldenweek-color-trap-purple-one-piece-goldenweek-gif-26837745

[blazing depot]

I used chatgpt to draft a final paper a few weeks ago and it literally made up and hallucinated citations. It’s bad at that stuff

[brittle basin]

supposedly. i have not actually looked into it. but i'm sure videos and news sources exist explaining how bad it is.

[wraith mantle]

yeah i am really skeptical about these claims

[sage temple]

It lowkey depends on what you ask it exactly

[sage temple]

Me too and it's coming from people who barely live around data centers

[blazing depot]

The issue is that AI is an ass kisser, it will lie to you to not frustrate you

[brittle basin]

did the teacher figure it out?

[prisma idol]

Billions of gallons by 2027 i believe is what I saw as projections and it to cool the systems in the data centers

[sage temple]

That isn't an issue though, most of the time it will be correct

[wraith mantle]

AI can do a lot of the grunt work in your line of work

[blazing depot]

I only used it to create an outline to write it from basically. I still wrote the whole thing from scratch

[wraith mantle]

you dont use AI to come up with a whole business strategy

[blazing depot]

I got like a 92% on the essay

[sage temple]

If they pay for it whats the problem

[blazing depot]

I only ran it through AI to mock grade it, fix grammar. I still had to proofread and rewrite cuz AI has a specific pattern of writing

[prisma idol]

It also sends out a bunch of carbon emissions and drives up the prices of water in the areas the data centers are located

Anyways

[honest garden]

I only ever try using it for complicated things, like physics theory and coding, it will kiss my ass as it lies to my face. Sometimes you need to handhold it to the truth

[sage temple]

Well that was the case even without AI

[wraith mantle]

i mean that sounds like a lot but on the scale of the US, is that supposed to be a code red?

[blazing depot]

The worst part of the AI boom is that consumer tech is skyrocketing

[prisma idol]

Even if it was the case we shouldn't be speeding this shit up 😭

[sage temple]

My AI must be smarter than yours then

[blazing depot]

RAM shortage, NVIDIA is making less GeForce cards cuz Sam Altman really needs to hoard them

[honest garden]

All of my professors who do essay assignments have seen a shift in grades upward

[sage temple]

Well I've never seen anyone complain about factories whenever they see a manufactured product

[wraith mantle]

ngl i used AI this week to fix something in excel

saved me 30 minutes of googling

[honest garden]

Ask yours to generate a structural relaxation calculation for monolayer graphene in quantum espresso and I doubt it'll be all correct first try

[wraith mantle]

probably consumed a few gallons of water

[brittle basin]

Is it suggesting they are using AI to write coherent essays to the point it allows better grades on average?

[wraith mantle]

but yeah

[prisma idol]

BUT WE DO

[tranquil blade]

I used ai like one time for basic concepts on this short essay I had to write but I havent used it before or since that

[prisma idol]

We always are complaining about factories and emissions

[sage temple]

Ask yours to generate a java program to do plenty of things given instructions and I doubt it'll give you a wrong answer

[wraith mantle]

do you want to shut down factories?

[sage temple]

You just dont dawg

[honest garden]

Yeah, that the low grade tail end is gone. Also it's very recognizable but professors are too busy to raise 10 academic misconduct investigations per semester

[hot cairn]

there’s no way cowboy bebop is in Fortnite but not One Piece lmao what

[sage temple]

Especially not as much as you do with AI

[wraith mantle]

it is the trend and hype to hate on AI, hating on factories is so 1990

[prisma idol]

Yeah not as much as Ai because factories at least contribute something meaningful into society with products that can be used

[blazing depot]

One of my professors for a CS class I was in bragged about writing up 20 students using AI in that class last semester so it depends

[sage temple]

Whenever you see a One Piece action figure, do you complain about the carbon emissions of the factory used to make it

[brittle basin]

Now I feel bad for the professors. I wonder how they combat it? Replace essays with a different kind of assignmen that is in-class only?

[honest garden]

I've made it work on data processing in Python and it needed a bit of help, but it still did it 100x faster than me alone

[honest garden]

Yeah pretty much, essays just don't work now. More presentations for everyone!

[sage temple]

Yeah and major AI companies don't claim to always be right either it just depends on the person using it

[wraith mantle]

it should be really easy to catch AI essays no?

[honest garden]

True. Mine are chemistry professors who barely have time for lunch

[blazing depot]

AI is good at Python more consistently than other languages

[sage temple]

Yeah it is very easy to catch AI

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/im-nervous-anxious-stage-fright-uneasy-tense-gif-15396988

[sage temple]

I wonder how they even do that though

[wraith mantle]

like not even using tools, ai essays just feel weird you can easily tell

[sage temple]

It's always correct about something being written by ai

[blazing depot]

AI has a distinct syntax so it’s very obvious if you don’t correct it

Like em dashes but also extremely formal

[sage temple]

True true

[blazing depot]

It’s cuz the language model is trained on high academic papers

[honest garden]

Well they have a flag that says they can't be trusted, but I just hate the personality of most genAI where it kisses your ass and will lie to you to please you

[sage temple]

I mean you can adjust how it speaks

It's tone, punctuation, and line of reasoning are all like customizable

[prisma idol]

If its on Google docs isn't there software to check the writing habits and if the typing seems natural

[brittle basin]

yo just like my local red light district!

[sage temple]

There def is, even if you just copy and paste it in as a txt file or something

[tranquil blade]

Makes me wonder if it actually gets harder to tell what essays are ai as you get further in education, if it uses high level academic papers would that make it hard to tell in a graduate school class?

[honest garden]

When I tried that instead of being a peppy annoying tone it begins every message with 'ok, let's get right to the point'. And nothing will change the fact that bad user input will exacerbate bad machine output

[tranquil blade]

Like high school you should be able to catch it pretty easy because kids in high school generally are not very good at writing essays

[brittle basin]

I was.

[brittle basin]

I think.

[woven heron]

https://tenor.com/view/the-goat-gif-4115569673926897153

[distant vine]

To use a comparison, imagine Ethanbaron letting Umit buy up wood on mass, leading to consumer production of logs for ship building dry up.

[sage temple]

But it's just a little dumb when someone would see an AI made piece of art and calls it slop but when they see a set of jewelry they don't think about the factory pollution it came from

[distant vine]

A natural resource probably isnt the best to compare to RAM but I tried my best

[honest garden]

There are some folks who still can't right in uni. And besides, people still have diverse writing styles

[prisma idol]

How many more times am I going to have to see this boring color spread

[honest garden]

What's the point of art, and what's the point of a gemstone

[sage temple]

[woven heron]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-shut-up-shut-it-shush-shut-your-mouth-gif-14195072583773268462

[distant vine]

Well those are too different arguments. People call it slop because they believe it lacks human expression and is therefore worthless.

[dense haven]

this human expression discourse is so tired

[prisma idol]

I know you need to keep rocks relevant somehow but posting the color spread over and over is....

[sage temple]

Either of those things are subjective nobody can just say so

[dense haven]

what a bunch of pretentious shit

[woven heron]

https://tenor.com/view/waltergotme-gif-18867690

[rose rune]

honestly I think Oda did a piss poor job coloring this one

[distant vine]

OdaGPT would finish the series if we let some of yall in charge

[brittle basin]

Wocks will always be relevant.

[woven heron]

[wraith mantle]

the fucking goat

[fallen meteor]

i've been thinking this but i dont want to be weird
like big mom's face...

[wraith mantle]

god we need more rocks

[prisma idol]

You're goat is dead

Typo...

[woven heron]

[tranquil blade]

We dont need more rocks

[prisma idol]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-gif-21179057

[dense haven]

yea we need more rocks glaze

[tranquil blade]

We got like 10 chapters of him

[dense haven]

rockbaf

[brittle basin]

You mean Ida? Yeah.... I know.

[tidal rune]

The animal should be goat instead of tiger tsk

[tranquil blade]

Why is she green

[rose rune]

ask oda

[prisma idol]

[dense haven]

green mom

[fallen meteor]

it looks so much like she has a five o'clock shadow

[rose rune]

oda went for a lot of petrol colors

and this hideous sweater

[prisma idol]

Where is the sweater?

[dense haven]

oda truly fell off

[rose rune]

shirt

[blazing depot]

Shoutout Stussy for giving us femcel representation

[rose rune]

or whatever

[honest garden]

Well artificial gemstones are a cheaper alternative. Anyway, there is a lot of hysterical arguments surrounding AIart which makes it annoying to discuss. I just don't find it very interesting, most people who use AIgen to make art don't have much to say

[sage temple]

When a robot cuts a diamond into art or a robot uses plastic to fill up a Luffy figure mold it's fine just because yall just like it more. Disliking AI art is just kinda hypocritical if you don't treat stuff like those as the same

[distant vine]

Why is it hypocritical? You see the reasoning there no? I like it more.

[rose rune]

I even get corrected in my native tongue when I call stuff a sweater and they go "well, technically it's a jacket because of the zip 🤓 "

[sage temple]

Yeah but you try to validate it because it takes up water and pollutes the air

Which is what's hypocritical about it

[honest garden]

Art is traditionally human expression, so what's the point otherwise

[frigid gulch]

Rocks bros..

[honest garden]

Idgaf about the environmental argument because that's a lost cause

[prisma idol]

Well while she is wearing a jacket, I feel like you were pointing towards her long sleeve shirt and overalls

[honest garden]

Same as plagiarism arguments

[distant vine]

The premise assumes that both are equal. But I wouldn't say that. There's a lot of things I think take up energy that are worth it, and things I don't.

[rose rune]

oh lol, I didn't even notice the jacket

[indigo yacht]

The world government would engage in NFTs

[distant vine]

If I think the thing is worthless, I think its energy use is a bigger issue

[prisma idol]

We are fucked i guess anyways in that department

[distant vine]

But I dont know exactly how expensive AI is in that matter so I cant get much deeper than that

[wraith mantle]

isn't it kinda cool that gloriosa is currently on amazon lily as an elder? taking care of her people and stuff... rare case of getting your shit together

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/ares-god-of-war-xwp-xena-warrior-princess-kevin-tod-smith-gif-20982181

[prisma idol]

I cant wait for in a couple of years where we get studies on the brain on how AI effects it long term

Rn we only have a few short term papers

[dense haven]

brainrot

[wraith mantle]

probably as bad as social media

[honest garden]

Ai would teach you how to use the correct 'affect'

[rose rune]

finally we can build a city on top of the great barrier reef

[honest garden]

Obligatory conversation derail to gloat about grammar

[prisma idol]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-radar-gif-6949941861230371666

[honest garden]

Hits a little too close to home...

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-ai-130-backpack-supreme-backpack-baby-tuff-baby-meme-gif-2218754133828871165

[prisma idol]

Fucking hate this gif

[dense haven]

I only care about my ram prices

[urban lodge]

Every time ai baby is posted a kitten dies

[tranquil blade]

Yeah humanity has got like 250 years left max

[prisma idol]

What is it even supposed to display, what emotion

[wraith mantle]

i was gonna buy a pc next year...

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/view/tuff-ai-kitten-ai-kitten-larry-larry-ai-gif-5850789617517185518

[distant vine]

What if the real agendaposting all along was counting up the amount of people addicted to Nami AI chatbots vs Robin AI chatbots to decide who's better?

[tranquil blade]

but at least now you can make slop in less than a minute

[fallen meteor]

https://x.com/pewpiece/status/2002000949045305582?s=20

Pew (@pewpiece)

Eiichiro Oda comment this week :

"In order to communicate with the cast of the OnePiece Live-Action , I started using the “WhatsApp” application. Has the LINE application become the least used one now…!?"

X · Dec 19, 2025, 12:59 PM

whatsapp oda 😮

[blazing depot]

What if Oda had WhatsApp

[dense haven]

the best time to buy was 2 months ago but the second best time is now

[fallen meteor]

not an what if

[dense haven]

do it before you regret

[tranquil blade]

Just download ram online

[fallen meteor]

ai made this impossible

[prisma idol]

Trueeee

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/think-bro-gif-22403438

[rose rune]

luckily it's kinda dead already. people seldom post it now

[brittle basin]

Forsake computer.
Return to monke.
RAM? There are plenty of rams to hunt in nature.

[tranquil blade]

No wonder Akainu is crashing out all the time

[wraith mantle]

ok i am against ai now

[rose rune]

good thing this was here so that I knew I had to laugh

[sage temple]

Not 1 but 3 emojis

You better laugh

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/lmao-lol-xd-gif-6972117878448025061

[brittle basin]

crying emoji losers should be get solitary confinement

[sage temple]

Brand new Second hand parts

[fallen meteor]

really interesting how oda had a kiki gear design but went with a bouba gear design

[tranquil blade]

I like how this implies Akainu himself set Kizaru's name on Whatsapp as "Big Business Borsalino 🍃 "

[wraith mantle]

yall think toki is alive?

[blazing depot]

GEAR HATE IS REAAAAAAAL

[dense haven]

holy shit its gear death

[prisma idol]

"Lowkenuinely" is apparently the joke rn, right?

[olive sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/larry-larry-child-gguh-baby-laugh-gif-6155286057470724104

[tranquil blade]

Gear Evil

[prisma idol]

Gear death

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-shakky-shakky-one-piece-shakuyaku-shakuyaku-one-piece-gif-5185197243883976799

[tranquil blade]

lowkenuinely, scp i wish i knew and gloving I guess

Which is all shit but

[dense haven]

gear death is real

[rose rune]

I miss the days when AI made stuff like this

[fallen meteor]

what is scp i wish i knew

gloving i'm aware

[dense haven]

he will reuse that design for sure

[prisma idol]

Sliding, gloving, contact juggling and a few more

[sage temple]

Flowkenuinely

[fallen meteor]

isnt this just german

[tranquil blade]

It's like on tiktok if you search it on there you'll find it

[fallen meteor]

thats how the language works

[fallen meteor]

i dont have tiktok

[tranquil blade]

Oh uh

[sage temple]

Flow State + Lowkey + Genuinely + Gloving = Flowkenuinling

[craggy vapor]

the most unattractive woman of the Kuja tribe for real

[rose rune]

no one believes you mean that kratos

[pine scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-rocks-d-xebec-rocks-blackbeard-i-need-you-so-bad-gif-9788633819536281733

[rose rune]

we know you're different

[craggy vapor]

I do. The cigarette ruins everything

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/call-out-shout-out-ken-jeong-gif-3856558617789280823

[fallen meteor]

the most attractive woman of the Kuja tribe

[rose rune]

you can drop the charade, we love you for who you are

[blazing depot]

Receding hairline

[grand flower]

Nah I may watch it to farm proof for Luffy going back in time but chances are I won’t

[blazing depot]

It’s over

[grand flower]

https://youtu.be/Jr9Kaa1sycs?si=H6HgUAl6y5tNr6j-

[fallen meteor]

i lied

[indigo yacht]

Where on the Hamilton-norwood scale does she fall under

[prisma idol]

Lowentologicalichelowstate

Low key + genuinely + ontological + niche + flowstate

[hot cairn]

yoo it’s gear death

[brittle basin]

I LOVE this song. In fact, this whole album is perfection.

[fallen meteor]

i lied so hard

[rose rune]

true

[fallen meteor]

she's getting there

[grand flower]

Now I gotta listen to it

[craggy vapor]

nah man, I’m traumatized daily by disrespectful smokers to the point where I simply don’t like smokers at all

[blazing depot]

https://tenor.com/view/marguerite-one-piece-margaret-amazon-lily-gif-5241138159262261814

[sage temple]

Lowentologicalichelowstatingly True Eve right here

[indigo yacht]

Unironically sandersonia and marigold have the second best zoan designs

[blazing depot]

Criminally underrated

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/حضن-بو-gif-873756486592965272

[brittle basin]

Watch the movie it's based on too. "Popstar: Never stop never stopping." Underrated comedy.

[urban lodge]

Marguerite will be the next empress

[rose rune]

anyways, Ida best girl

[fallen meteor]

oda needs to pivot the story in a way that she's one of the main characters

[indigo yacht]

Mainly because of neither of them have that luchador mask

[celest mauve]

the next up in a succession line of mid

[prisma idol]

Who? I only care about characters who live

[wet condor]

Everyday?

You not exaggerating at all?

[brittle basin]

[rose rune]

Ida best corpse

wait

[craggy vapor]

6 days a week okay

[indigo yacht]

I know it’s ragebait but why am I so angry

[rose rune]

not ragebait, just a joke.
I love Ida

[wet condor]

Ida's death did good for the story

https://tenor.com/view/druski-shrug-idk-iono-hands-up-gif-7122581203490458147

I'm just saying

[hot cairn]

I GOTTA TERRORIZE THAT P

[wet condor]

Of course irl a woman like he doesn't deserve to die like that. But made for good emotional weight

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/kosmos-kosmos-xenosaga-xenosaga-gif-7059181785303898647

[hot cairn]

holy peak

[celest mauve]

this is oda's go-to to make a sad backstory and it sucks

[wet condor]

This is why I tell folks deaths can be good

[prisma idol]

I dont know what you expected making a Mother who had only appeared in a backstory your favorite...

[wet condor]

Well how're you gonna make a sad story if some folks don't bite it?

[brittle basin]

I love Ida and Oda hates me. It's as simple as that.

[wet condor]

Someone's gotta be the sacrifice lol

[sage temple]

Hope Loki has a lunarian fruit

[wet condor]

Or are you talking about the mom killing thing specifically?

[celest mauve]

oda: "hmm I wonder what I should include to make this character's backstory sad and get people rallying behind them? oh yeah, let's kill their mom!"

[wet condor]

Yeah that's an Oda specialty

[prisma idol]

No

[rose rune]

is Oda's mom still alive?

[wet condor]

Like a flashback Mom is as good as dead in this story

[proud pivot]

what?

[sage temple]

Oh that clears up everything thanks a lot for the context you provided so helpfully

[distant vine]

I feel like her death feels very forced

[wet condor]

Really no mom is safe. Not even present day moms

[celest mauve]

last I heard yeah, dad too

[tranquil blade]

Wow

[prisma idol]

You're welcome

[distant vine]

You may say they all are but I feel it most with Ida

[wet condor]

This would've maybe explained some stuff if she was

[sage temple]

He has wing tattoos and thinks he's the sun god

[prisma idol]

Where tf does he have wings

[sage temple]

Wing tattoos

[distant vine]

Some guy just poisons her. How? We dont know. Why? Well Loki came over and just now he's decided its too much

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-sun-teletubbies-gif-19804594

[olive sigil]

That’s just a mix of Zoro and Robin

[wet condor]

I remember someone saying that Oda believes mothers hinder childrens growth or something. I don't know if that's true

[distant vine]

That is real

[urban lodge]

He said that they're the antithesis of adventure

[distant vine]

Its kind of like how most children protags have dead parents

Theyre kind of a block to the child doing whatever they want

[celest mauve]

I hate this statement so much

[wet condor]

There is more adventure to be had when kids are parentless in a way. I do agree with that

[distant vine]

It is kinda funny to have that limitation focused on moms while Dragon is like "Hell yeah man do what you want"

[distant vine]

I can agree with it generally but Oda's definetly biased by his perception of motherhood

[sage temple]

He prolly just keeps fathers there for the aura moments and hype farming

[wraith mantle]

i think moms die a lot because they stand on business the most

otohime, bellemere, olvia

[icy wolf]

loki fruit merchant

[brittle basin]

Buffy had a mom and she still slayed. Write better, Oda.

[urban lodge]

Oda is a fake pokemon fan

[wet condor]

I think it is reflective of the real world to an extent. Men are less coddling. But there are mother's who do encourage a child's sense of adventure. If we're talking about the story he's included Ripley

[wraith mantle]

good cause pokemon is ass

[distant vine]

Pokemon is kinda unique in that regard lol

[celest mauve]

this is the funniest thing, because pokemon moms are totally chill with their 10 y/o's setting out and doing whatever

[distant vine]

Since its a game that takes place in a very stable and peaceful society it makes sense the parents get to live there lol

[urban lodge]

Yeah it's actually kinda absurd lol

[wet condor]

She encourages Collun engaged in old Viking traditions

[celest mauve]

and the dads are non-existent besides burch and norman

[wet condor]

Lol, yeah

[blazing depot]

Dread it. Run from it.

[sage temple]

Just doesn't make sense but alr

[pine scaffold]

Nah he still has insane haki tbh

[grand flower]

Let’s see

Momo lost Oden

Robin lost clover and the other scholars

Sanji lost the orbit

Luffy lost Sabo then Ace

Franky lost Tom

Brook lost Yorki and his other gay lovers

Kizaru lost Vegapunk 5 times

Kuma lost Klapp

Jamesbei lost Fisher Tiger

[pine scaffold]

His observation haki is ridiculous

and he clashed with Harald HK boosted

[wraith mantle]

we lost two dads this arc

[celest mauve]

man I'm not discussing this with you

[pine scaffold]

acoc haki

[grand flower]

I wouldn’t wanna do that with me either

Not with all these counter examples in my face

[celest mauve]

I know oda kills dads too, it's more noticeable how the moms die so consistently though

[brittle basin]

How about this, what mom's have not died?

[wraith mantle]

because moms have a higher tendency to protect and stand on business

[celest mauve]

no it's just cos it's a pain to discuss things with you when we disagree on so much

[grand flower]

Dadan

[brittle basin]

Makino is alive

[grand flower]

Yeah I bet that’s hard when manga facts are in your face

[runic dock]

I mean calgara backstory was emotional for vastly different reasons but okay

[celest mauve]

you list all those examples and it's like, can two things not be true at once?

[grand flower]

I promise Yall it’s okay to just go “that’s a good point, I didn’t consider that”

[dense rapids]

A mom died in Kalgara’s flashback

[wraith mantle]

i think oda is pretty diverse in how he writes tragic backstories

no two backstories are the same

[runic dock]

Yeah I don’t think he’s pigeon holing himself here or anything

There’s just a lot of dead parents

Riddled about

[grand flower]

You can’t call it a go to, with tje connotation that has, when Theres just as many examples of not that thing

[celest mauve]

momo lost his mom
robin lost her mom
sanji lost his mom
luffy's mom doesn't exist
franky's mom doesn't exist
brook, ok
kizaru
kuma lost his mom
jinbe, ok

[grand flower]

Yeah people lose their mothers

[wet condor]

Even if it was, I don't see why it matters

[grand flower]

Losing mothers isn’t a “go to” tho

[celest mauve]

it is

[runic dock]

Luffys mom not existing doesn’t add any emotional weight to anything

[wraith mantle]

sanji's moment with zeff is more tragic than his mom

[runic dock]

It’s a non factor so far

[grand flower]

No it’s not dawg

[dense rapids]

She exists she’s just dead like all the others

[grand flower]

The most you can say is people dying is his go-to

[runic dock]

It’s not adding to luffys sad backstory

[celest mauve]

yeah, which lends to my thought that oda doesn't care for moms as much as he does for dads overall

[runic dock]

At all

At least so far

[grand flower]

It’s not a go to if you have just as many examples of another thing lol

[dense rapids]

It adds to Dragon’s

[runic dock]

Probably

[brittle basin]

Maybe more accurate to say he likes to use the death of familial members to pull at the heartstrings.

[runic dock]

lol maybe he’s projecting feelings of his own mom

[celest mauve]

nami, shirahoshi, rebecca, shanks, loki & hajrudin, the list goes on as far as dead moms go

[runic dock]

Makino got death flags rn

[brittle basin]

nuh uh

what if Oda kills the baby instead

[wraith mantle]

the WG will kill makino

[runic dock]

I’m sure

[wraith mantle]

and that will trigger gear death

[runic dock]

Smh

[dense rapids]

Ripley dying soon

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-1984-gif-8433559455380317911

[grand flower]

You’re not hearing me. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen frequently enough that you can pretty much associate it with OP

[dense rapids]

Ripley knows how the abyss works she’s gonna die as she’s explaining it

[celest mauve]

vivi's mom was dead too but that wasn't really used for a sad backstory I'm pretty sure?

[grand flower]

But saying “that’s his go to ans it sucks” as though it’s a tired formula just isn’t true

[celest mauve]

it happens quite frequently

[grand flower]

Cause we have more than that

[grand flower]

Sure

I’m responding to “and it sucks”

[celest mauve]

and the man has outright said moms are anti-adventure

[grand flower]

That’s a little inflammatory

[celest mauve]

ok? I'm not allowed to feel a certain way about it? should I have clarified "and it subjectively sucks"?

like come on shuron

[wraith mantle]

oda does execute this "formula" really well tho

like you see it coming but damn its still good

[brittle basin]

Someone is gonna have to make a list of fathers vs mothers that are dead for a real comparison.

[distant vine]

I think he follows the principle in general with parents but he definetly would have moms in his mind the most

[grand flower]

You can feel how you want, idc

I’m responding on principle so to speak

How you feel? That’s whatever

[runic dock]

That is pretty funny and why I think he’s projecting , but I would hope that’s not a real message in his story , just a fun side thought because “it looks that way”

[celest mauve]

ok then why are you getting on my ass for this?

[wraith mantle]

he flips a coin when he writes a backstory

[grand flower]

Why you feel that way? I disagree

I don’t think your “why” applies to OP at all

[distant vine]

Ugh thats a lot of counting...

[olive sigil]

I wonder how his own mother feels about it

[grand flower]

We get a very healthy of mix-it-up with what makes backstories sad

[distant vine]

I would assume his mom would fit that anti-adventure idea. It's certainly something real in traditional households like that

[craggy vapor]

BB, Shamrock/Shanks, Ussop, Nami and so on lost their moms as well

[celest mauve]

we do get a mix of what makes backstories sad, but moms being dead has been a pretty consistent factor and I dislike it immensely

[brittle basin]

Rocks lost his parents at GV?

[wraith mantle]

speaking of mothers, i wonder, with shanks' mom, how oda would twist it and make it mother-centric tragic

[craggy vapor]

One Piece is like a mom slaughter fest

[distant vine]

Ok, I do think we need to seperate "This character's mom being alive would limit how much they can do" and the character's mom just dying cause its sad

[brittle basin]

Is Sr Pink's wife considered dead?

[wraith mantle]

shanks and shamrock dont know her at all

[olive sigil]

But like mothers in one piece are either evil or dead. Sometimes both

What did his mother do to him

[craggy vapor]

I bet Oda has mommy issues

[distant vine]

Probably keep him from wandering out of town or something idk

[wet condor]

I don't know about all of that lol

[olive sigil]

And daddy issues

[wet condor]

Maybe he does

[dense rapids]

This

Maybe Oda is just projecting

[wet condor]

Well the thing is both of his parents were in hsi life

[distant vine]

I don't think Oda killing off moms is necessarily bad

[wraith mantle]

yeah he executes it very well, kinda hard to be mad about it

[olive sigil]

Like his father seems to have been present but this makes it seem like if his dad was a deatbeat

[distant vine]

He certainly kills off dads as well. Sometimes it truly is easiest for the story for both the caretakers to go so the kid is on their own

[brittle basin]

Oda treats moms like Eminem wanted to treat Debbie Mathers.

[olive sigil]

It’s not bad just his own mother must wonder what she did wrong

[grand flower]

What sets it apart from people dying in backstories in general?

[dense rapids]

Didn’t he say his parents didn’t want him to be a mangaka

[wraith mantle]

like ginny's death was probably the saddest death i witnessed in this manga

[vital heart]

Holy shit

Insane take incoming

Bear with me

Brace for impact

Tekking is lowkey fine

[fallen meteor]

ragnir is luffy's mom

[wraith mantle]

nigga stfu

[fallen meteor]

woah

[distant vine]

I mean I wouldn't be shocked if his mom was more involved in the active raising. I don't wanna just assume but that was kind of the norm. That could just be me being American though, but it seems Japan did that too

[brittle basin]

Send this to Morj

[fallen meteor]

i feel he just needs like a good haircut

[runic dock]

I’m convinced , but we’ll never hear about it in articles , that shit is extremely private in Japan lol

[celest mauve]

what kind of question is this? it's the mother of the character concerned dying rather consistently, yes we do get dads, friends etc dying too but I don't get the impression oda kills these other character roles off as much as he does with moms

[wet condor]

I think he has moms die a lot because they're closest thing that people really get to someone loving them unconditionally. Not even necessarily because they're less willing to let children be adventurous but just it means losing an frequent place of refuge

[distant vine]

No he doesnt have mommy or daddy issues lol

[vital heart]

This is the best message ive ever seen in this server

[wet condor]

Mom dies, that's it. Ain't no place to really go to for comfort in the same way a lot of the time

[runic dock]

Tera brought up the point too though how they just always happen to be dead even if it doesn’t pull on any emotional weight for the still alive characters

[distant vine]

Its just that moms in his mind will not want their kid adventuring, so either the kid stays home or the mom goes...one way or another

[runic dock]

So there’s that too

[wet condor]

There are certainly better messages lol

[distant vine]

Like imagine typical moms like Bellemere and Sora living while Nami and Sanji go through what they do

[dapper tree]

Meek has short term memory loss so he can only hold in the last 30 messages he sees

[celest mauve]

yeah, like shanks's mom being dead even if it had no emotional impact on him
luffy obviously too

[dapper tree]

He'll forget that message soon enough

[vital heart]

https://tenor.com/view/pixar-finding-dory-cute-gif-7949581374841055593

[vital heart]

https://tenor.com/view/im-so-excited-excited-so-excited-yay-spectacular-gif-3443031193853918043

[wraith mantle]

Chou-Chou's owner was not a mother

[dapper tree]

Meek is that old

[distant vine]

It is silly of Oda to generalize mom's as "anti-adventure" when he can obviously craft the character to allow it, but it is real in a way, for both the mom and dad

Similar with Shanks' mom.

[wraith mantle]

i think the anti-adventure thing is a meme answer

thats not why he actually kills off mothers

[runic dock]

I could see shanks mom having an effect later on , but I don’t think luffy will ever feel anything about his own moms info , he’ll get confused someone is talking about dadan lol

[distant vine]

Well, I guess she could just go to the Holy Land with Garling

[celest mauve]

this makes sense, but I still dislike how bluntly it's put by oda that moms are anti-adventure when they could easily be supportive of adventures and still be loving and caring (and it's not that he never puts them in that role, kureha exists)

[brittle basin]

The mom in Pokemon was all for your adventure in the original game. WTF Oda?

[grand flower]

I ask because it can’t just just be frequency or consistency, otherwise you probably wouldn’t be enjoy a story like OP that repurposes beats this much in general

[runic dock]

Maybe a bit too much

He’s 10 fucking years old girl

[brittle basin]

Ash's mom>OP moms

[celest mauve]

it is frequency and consistency for me, and there are many things to enjoy about OP so I don't hinge my whole enjoyment on how oda constructs sad backstories

[distant vine]

Doesnt it make sense though? Imagine the character's lives going the intended route with mothers that are invested in their safety

[wraith mantle]

loki wouldn't have changed

[runic dock]

Mothers will always want the safe route for their kids unless they’re big mom

[celest mauve]

there are things I like and things I dislike about OP, moms being either frequently killed off or just outright irrelevant falls under the latter

[runic dock]

[distant vine]

He definetly brought up mothers here because he's imagining a housewife lecturing his characters

He applies the rule in general, he just answered the question here cause thats how he imagines it

[runic dock]

Big mom single handedly proved every stereo type wrong associated with her

[wraith mantle]

estrid too

[runic dock]

Estrid just wanted to give Loki some adventure!

Tossing him to underworld

[wraith mantle]

underrated mother

[trim lily]

if you think about it, if estrid was a good mother loki wouldn’t have turned out the way he did

[distant vine]

Well I guess Estrid would be the opposite in that she doesnt care about Loki staying home, would prefer the opposite actually lol

Ida would definetly interfere with his jailing though

Harald as well

[grand flower]

I think it’s also a play in the trope/stereotype that mothers are the sensible and responsible parent while the father is the goofball that would encourage dangerous shenanigans

[runic dock]

https://tenor.com/view/whoah-woah-gif-20545190

Me thinking about it