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Well, I still think there's a good chance the fruit is actually Luffy's fruit
that also connect with the convo earlier that those giants was in FMI ages ago
helped making noah
he must not think it’s important enough to know lol
so theres a hundred of em sailing around back then
thats a lot
i don’t think he cares as much about bounties as he used to
That's even worse tbh
So you think that Loki just has ragnir ? I was about to say thank shanks takes Nika but some how it gets into the hands of who's who
That fits
pre timeskip Oda would’ve gave Straw hats new bounties after egghead incident , now he’s just like ehh who cares they not getting new bounties lol
i’ll just reveal dorry & brogy bounties lol
It just wasn't time for new bounties
now that i think about it
They could have split up around the world
its not literally a whole fleet of giants
also its not mentioned they are warring giants
This picture kinda matches the one in punk hazard too the big guy in the back
yeah he has to show it here cause if he decides not to he would have to skip Loki vs Harald which I doubt he will
They seem to be working together, that's how they all got captured together
I think after elbaf we will get some bounty's? Unless they just killed every marine that was at egg head 😂
there's no way
Off screen price
nvm herald said they are hammer wielding warriors
Piece
he likes discussions
nah
it's not the nika fruit
how did Loki defeat Harald then?
ngl this is what i think
it feeds into fan discussion
Harald says the fruit is needed to defeat him
I think Loki is going to go on to lead the Galleria Giants, while Hajrudin is king of Elbaph, both will be partners with Luffy who will have the devil fruit
I'm curious tho just how it got into the hands of who's who that's all
so does that mean its not haki that kills herald here?
I think the Nika fruit just "got itself lost" in some way since it hadn't found the right person to eat it
it's not the nika fruit tho
Uhhh haki bloom type shit
Haki hasn't killed anyone so far. It didn't kill Rocks, a sword did that
But but I thought haki was the way like kaido said
Kaido is a liar
Kaido said that with one of the strongest fruits in existence I dont wanna hear it from him
I take anything a villain spouts as "truth" with a grain of salt
If Roger said it I would accept it
ok fine
haki wont be used to remove his immortality and kill him
Kaido’s metric was roger
Haki has been the answer to the powers twice thus far so we’ll see
God haki sucks
God haki!?!?
God Haki 🔥
Lol ik what you ment
Haki seems to be enough to halt the powers at least for a time, but it has yet to kill any one
tbf haki did remove rocks buff 
But God haki is next haki!
cant deny that
Haki did counter domi reversi yeah
God Haki could be a real thing unfortunately
So that says a lot really
A critical mass of haki seems to be needed
To me I feel like you need haki, devil fruit and battle IQ
And Joyboy’s
Yea
Forced them out of transformation and broke summoning
well are we assuming every demon will have the same haki defense as rocks
i feel like thats a rabbit hole of a convo
Cus remember like Zoro Luffy and Sanji are usually weaker than ther exponents but with strategy and power( or punching bigger ) they advance....I think
It's hard to see how far it goes. It doesn't do anything for the Elders other than disrupt them, Maybe smaller contracts are different
that dives into is Imu giving em haki defense?
It feels like different uses for different things
Like haki probably is the main way to beat imus powers but to defeat Imu you probably need a devil fruit
Imu seems to have like 20 different variations of contracts
Harald coating his body would be too OP
Still not sold that the goresei don't have different contracts too
So I think he won’t for plot reasons
Probably not but
sure its a combo of DF and haki
which what luffy has been doing all this time
Like if Shanks could have used haki to take off his mark, I think he would have
rocks also wanted 2 DFs
Gorosei may have the abyssal covenant since Oda seems to not be showing that one or what it does in this flashback
And Shanks had the lowest mark
thats the thing
even joyboys crazy amount of haki dint remove the mark
yeah i’m assuming that one gives you the no aging & yokai transformation
It wouldn’t remove the mark
Shanks confirmed what the shallow and depths covenant does, so there's just one other covenant to explore
It’s too deeply ingrained
I think shanks’ arm being removed by a sea creature is very intentional
im going with the 2nd and 3rd level of mark is permament
but theres fucking gunko who ruins that
Probably grant you the monster forms
But Domi Reversi can be reversed completely
Rocks is hard to guarantee because he never took into account the majority of Imu's powers, so he can't have counted if the DFs would have countered him fully anymore
Maybe? We don't know if it would have come back. But its possible
Wait why?
the best part is we dint get a chance to see rocks using the 2DFs so we will never knowe
Talk about yap
why what?
yeah I wonder when Oda will officially say what the 2 fruits are that’s needed
Did Gunko ruin it
Until were shown otherwise yes
cuz gunko was able to snap out of the braiwash = hope
We’ll know ome with the reveal of Elbaph’s fruit most likely
Well you ARE are on his Calm Belt channel. It's ALL yap. That's what its for 😆
Bro put it all together huh
yeah i feel like with how Teach talked about the yami yami & Eris surviving with Teach and knowing Rocks was too early and wasn’t ready .. the yami yami is the other one
so imu is already using a body thats already glitching out
Its supposed to be one of those things you can put on in the background
I think Gunko is a lil different than the others. I do think she has a contract but I think Imu also brainwashed her as well so there is like two steps to it but also we do se harold chime in and out as well?
Mmhmm I think that’s the answer with the best shit
Nika and Yami fruits
Shot* lol
But Gunko right now is the weirdest CD/Holy knight
yes but im going with gunko had the buff all this time
while herald was slowly being controlled
If that's what it was. It didn't seem to be anything that Gunko did, it was just that Collun's screams awoke a memory. It's very similar to when Sabo got his memories back
I wonder if the knights we've been seeing so far have all been their actual personality or some kind of twisted version of their original selves, because we saw this chapter that Harald clearly changed
Like is Shamrock actually like this or did Imu make him like this
sure but thats still some ray of hope they ca snap out of it
so its not really permament
yeah I do think Davy Jones had the yami yami
now can they remove the ability of imu turning you into bones like saturn? that i dont know
Illi think the consensus is most of them knew what they were getting into and wouldn't disagree with Imu anyways ?
Ohh maybe Imu cultivates such a horrible culture in the CDs so it’s easier for the knights to fall into line with the contracts making you worse
I don't think so, all of the people under Imu's mental control from Harald to Dorry and Broggy all act the same and have the same personality.
Gunko is very much herself. I think what it is is that Imu's power changes your thought IF you rebel against him. And that's what happened to Harald
when davy jones had the yami yami they just called it davy jones locker
Seems like it’s who you are, just an asshole now
You know what’s funny , if joyboy had the nika fruit , if that was the counter , why did he lose?
Logical fallacy
Returned to the future
betrayal .. like always
Time displacement wore off
He got betrayed
Not disproving what your saying but I have been seeing people say Davey Jones locker was in a big ass fish/ whale!

I guess lol
I'm just curious if that will play out in some way
Davy Jones messed up the plan I'm afraid...
Did you see morj’s theory about the one piece being sent to the future?
He fumbled
just maybe
Check this out
I don't think it's that easy. It's a deal with the devil, a contract that you agreed to. If someone could have gotten out of it, then you would definitely see people like Rocks and Harald get out of it. I guarantee Rocks was doing what ever he could to snap out of it and not hurt his family.
It seems he was betrayed or put into a situation where he couldn't possibly win
That’s because of a volcanic cataclysm I bet
When supervolcanos go off, they block out the sun
Hmmm
no i mean get out of the brainwash part
the contract in their body im still not sure
There’s been mass extinctions and periods of perpetual darkness cause of super volcanoes
Hellfire serpent = ring of lava = red line before it hardened
Okay wow that's crazy tho
Perhaps, though I'm still thinking it might just be a case of the usual amnesia
im telling you gunko will snap out of it again
ruins imus plan
Davey lore is awesome
If he had the nika and the nika was stopped by Davy jones aka darkness , then he must have had his powers turned off an didn’t have good enough haki to scrap with them afterwards 
The ring of fire is a real life string of volcanoes in the pacific
Laboon is coming back for the Final War confirmed
Nami says volcanoes make islands
Also, the red line is a bunch of combined islands
Also said by Nami
You said it, not me.
First verse is about how a magma disaster almost wiped out life on earth and created the red line
But his haki must be good because of the knot
Idk about the others but Gunko had her memories quelled for sure
So I still wonder how it happened
you know theres stuff that connects to this
the volcanic elements/particles that got stuck in the clouds in skypeia
the emperor cloud forever black clouds
Must not have been that damned good
Harald disobeys an order first
And he still seems to keep his memory
To some degree
Maybe that’s at first , maybe he loses them over time
Exactly
He keeps all his thoughts, it's very much like what happened to Dorry and Broggy, they sound just like him
When did we first see a mural of the past?
Enel’s covercstory
It was kinda funny the way he returned the sword Jarul gave him
mural of the past? wut
On the moon
Gunko is special in some way
Enel found a mural
Tossed that hoe like a football
thank Imu he had his helm
Someone from Skypeia
that was ages ago
More connections
enel found it on the moon
I'm here for it
I do wonder when he got that sword. He had it at the beginning of the flashback, but not as a kid
Point blank chucking it at a forehead by an ancient giant’s arm is some crazy shit
only robin red the writings iirc
He’s from the sky islands
Ye it’s basically evil Harald
well no that was parabolum or some shit
Why didn't she use purple or blue?
Maybe as a gift when he ascended to the throne
Those come from volcanic eruptions
Pyroglobin

yeah the old man told em that the guy they first met
Yup. All connected
yeah thats what i told you
the volcanic erruption from first world
made sky islands possible
also made the emperor cloud
Hemoglobin
Emo goblin
We’re gonna get told his sword in an SBS

Yea Harald calls it a “meiken”
Bro I need answers not in the sbs oda
How the FUCK is he not dead.
Same with onigashima
Usually it’s meito
watch oda ignore the elbaf sword same with wano sword
Its an SBS question
His helmet protected him
...
How
If Loki convinced Jarul to withhold the truth about Harald, he'll probably keep that the truth even past when the arc ends
He had a sword spiked into his head at point blank range bruh
Surely the giant sword will be asked about
That helmet must be made of Wapolmetal or some shit because wtf
He probably kept quiet too
U know
Imagine Rocks with the imu brain mentality
I bet oda does random stuff to encourage easy sbs questions
"Davy is a clan that must be destroyed"
Wait this is real 😭
Instead of the demonic af yeeeeeessssss
no its just cope

Like oh yeah I'm not going to tell them this cus someone can ask and I can fill sbs up with it rather than telling the real questions asked
Oda going to drop the one piece in an sbs
The name would normally be sbs/vivre card material
ignores the good questions in the back
" I wasn't going to tell people this here but ....the onepeice is "
And he decides to answer 5 nonsense questions
Half the sbs is just useless garbage
im not even sure who picks the questions
I could have sworn he does or atleast his editor because there was a question about shanks having a brother that was redacted
the zoro family history prob the biggest one he has done huh?
Plot twist: the editor does it because he knows oda will answer the insane plot stuff instead of saving it for the manga
Odas poor assurance don't even get to draw they just read sbs question all day
"Oh yeah so the one piece is"
"ODA SHUT UP"
Wait what redacted whatchu mean
"Actually the mihawk WSS happened because of"
"SAVE IT FOR ZORO"
Like they released it at than took it back
They put a black square over it
Or blacked it out like how our government hides stuff in documents
"Put the dirty ones on my desk, then a handful of real ones but toss the rest."
wait this is real? thats hilarious
Thats not real
I won't blame ya if you don't remember but do you know what sbs it was
But its a funny idea
morning
now whats in the elbaf Box
That coffee cup is the equivalent of doing an 8 ball 😂
What would happen if someone drank all of this in one sitting
Shawty off to the side is bad asf whats her @?
Typical IG comment
nothing. the hammer is the fruit.
I wonder which character would have a theme song like Stelio Kantos in One Piece
severe anxiety attack depending on speed and amount of carbs consumed
In the box is a picture of Loki haj and Ida
i know from experience
I was more assuming like heart failure
this is contradicted in two ways
ngl i really want ragnir to be the fruit
cuz that be a great twist
The hammer probably does have a fruit tho maybe nidhog?
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harald mentioned wanting to get the hammer and the fruit
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loki is weakened by seastone confirming he ate some fruit
Isn't ragnir a dragon name?
see my explanation for this is simply
the giants forgot what really is in that room
the thinghas been there for so long it was lost in history
The only other ragnir that comes up is a dragon from brawlhalla
really?
when the giants live for so long
and they still cant translate the harley properly
im talking about ancient history
Is this not obvious?
sure something very old
like how neptune and odens dad forgot some parts of history
Google say ragnir is the combo of rangorok and mojnir or how ever thor hammer is spelled
Fun fact my pops wanted to name me Thor
Mjolnir
yeah but the concept of a DF user wielding a df weapon is conceptually gross
it sounds merchanty
so you try to avoid it
Beast mode
in reality its a big cope that ragnir is the legendary DF
but i still want it to happen
I dead ass think I would have been made fun of in grammar school but by middle and high I would bee the coolest guy 😎
Oh shit let's see
Who would you have given the mvp to?
Probably. I made it up with zero thought put into it.
Ngl no idea
Jarul? Maybe Loki? But i feel Jarul did more
Yea I can’t remember if it was an Sbs or another interview
Too much onepeice info spawning out I get ya
man i have another crackpot theory
if the giant shipwrights all use hammer
and if ragnir former user was a shipwright
you need ragnir to make another pluton
With enough tolerance you can probably stave something like that off, but you're not going to have a good time regardless.
Tbh I still think pluton is a living being made into a battle ship
And the blueprints were a mecha pluton
whale pluton theory?
I just really want Godzilla monster
Sorta yeah but I kinda hope it's like a Kaiju
@fallen meteor
Elbaf MVP rankings after 1169:
1-Loki 1972
2-Harald 1780 (chapter MVP)
3-Monkey D Luffy 1650
4-Davy D Xebec 1501
5–Scooper Gyattban 1320
6-Gunko 1266
7-Nico Robin 1234
8-Nami 1192
9-Road 1158
10-Shakuyaku 1156
I think Pluton was Davy Jones ship and the original “ Flying Dutchman”
I’m on the pluton mole theory
Teach may feel like it’s his birthright which is why Oda only ever bothered giving Teach logs for his ship cause he was always gonna upgrade to another one
if its literally flying
then its uranus ship
That's the DF Kong ate. It's represented by his spikes. Goda.
Yeah can see that one too I remember there being alot of evidence
But tbh you probably right the shipwrights giants are needed to build pluton
I felt like giving it to Harald
Yea thats like a hat on a hat
you gave it to Harald? i guess he did do a lot 
Xebec is weird that he didn't specify say he wanted the weapons or one-piece even tho the onepeice wasn't a thing yet
You gotta check out my Uranus theory thou if ya haven’t it’s a banger
Makes sense really
i think this is Davy Jones
Oh yea that’s a great one
it depends though
It posted in theorys?
messages stuck in limbo
the blue print could be from them tbh
just before they got captured
if they are shipwrights
and they where friends with FMI
thats connection enough for tom to get the BPs
imagine like having a fire weapon and an ice fruit
It’s the best Harald chapter
That's actually pretty interesting
ok maybe im sold now on Giants help making Noah
I think with Noah and all that the connection is there for sure and it seems giants gave always had a good relationship with the fishmen kingdom
yeah its really cool
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I changed my mind
That's dope!
Damn so Davy was using slave labor
That sucks for the slaves
those giants also travel alot as jarul say
so it makes sense
i swear they got captured cuz of pluton tech
Oda did say he was a horrible person in that SBS , Joyboy also wanted to take his spot as King .. I think Davy was more like Teach than he was like Rocks
i feel it in my gut
Ayee Joygirl mention
Makes sense
Inherited will and all
Do you think that's them at punk hazard
remind me where did moria found oars body again
yep we going back there somehow
Wasn't it in a block of ice ?.
I think he named the sea
She is the best pls go check that video out
I was introduced to her by the banana podcast lol
yeah I think Davy Jones was a wild King but even crazier as a pirate
which is why Joyboy wanted to be King
One theory I have is Davey was the king and Imu usurped him once joy boy was killed or something
Also I think Imu is a dream eater and gets there powers from that
If vegapunk idea of devil fruits are real
How does it connect to the First World?
there is that crowned Imu-like figure near the First World in the mural, yet we know Nerona Imu was a real person.
so ragnir is a horny hawk-frog creepily laughing like a gross insect that coughs
stacked df
ngl davy jones being king of the world as rocks said threw me into a loop
i'm trying to think what a similar sound effect would be in English that can accompany so much subject matter
i still dont know how he will fit into the story
here’s how I see it
First Word - Davy Jones was King , Joyboy became the first pirate
2nd World - Davy Jones was usurped as King and became a pirate , Joyboy bwas aiming to become King , Imu became King
3rd world - Imu is usurped as King
oh its just called the land of ice
wherever that is
i guess i just assumed its OP version of north pole or antarctica
For me I don't think the mural depicts different worlds I think it's all the second world battle but that's just the way I interpret it?
same location chinjao hid his treasure maybe?
first time I'm hearing that. The city on the right is the Ancient Kingdom for you then?
This is a direction I'm currently leaning in. Joyboy and Imu worked together to take down Davy, but then Imu double crossed Joyboy and became King himself.
Vegapunk said that clones will bring peace to the world in egghead.
We might be luffy clone soon
im also betting Jones was from first world
but the timeline here is iffy
i think first world was tens of thousands of years ago
See*
I'm thinking the First World has connections to the 3000-year old facility on Elbaf. So, I'm wondering if it existed long ago.

Does joyboy clone exist somewhere? Since clone exist now in one piece
Y'all thoughts?
My initial idea was that Imu teamed up with Davy but I think this is totally possible as well
cuz first world will still end
big end of the world event
Teach lol
I thought that was just a factory like in wano to power the serpent or who I suspect is pluton lol
Does no one want to jump on the relationship drama train?
Teach gonna look just like Davy Jones , Luffy gonna look just like Joyboy , Shirahoshi gonna look just like OG Poseidon , Vivi looks just like Lily
Vegapunk getting revived as a clone rn
he already did
Oda dgaf anymore
lilith has a 100% clone of VP
Original vegapunk I mean
inside some box
Yes
We were told nothing about it so I just assume that because they didn't know anything about it and it's super old that it was Oda saying "check out the First World remnants."
now i dont know if that version of VP has a DF also
We might get luffy cloning session too
I really don't know how Oda will write this, consiering D's are the enemy of celestial dragons but that the nefertari (a D family) was one of the 20 nations that worked together and formed the celestial dragons
Oh I think this was punk hazard
Multiple clone of luffy
nah cant be
Vegapunk df power is still in effect after death.. Idk how

Maybe you need to kill the brain
cuz we have seen the area chinjao was in
that part of the world was just ice
same way Boa , Big Mom & Law DFs do the same thing
To erase it
some fruits effects can remain after the user dies
This is what I love about the mural tho it literally can be interpret as of right now in so many ways
Ngl I hope big mom is alive
This image is meant to be sarcastic. But if we were to go on a serious note, one has to wonder about Imu's "desire" involving Vivi yet hatred for Lili. Unless we go down the route that Imu is in Lili's body and wants a new body via Vivi.
Don't put heavy expectations on murals
Thats all I say
Nah it can be Vegapunk perfected his wether tech which he failed on his first island because he lacked funding the geo thermal energy system and on egghead he used the motherflame
Some people getting too mystical with mural stuff
Nah, go full tinfoil on the murals, it's the only way to really have fun.

Dayum
but why moria calls it the land of ice when the island has a name

Too wordy tbh.
Slander must be short and efficient
also oars being found on the same place the giant crew is frozen?
That’s simply oda he’s hiding things from us really also this was way before he planned that arc
u could cut the bracket and it would still work

If you must explain your slander you have failed
Maybe they are taking too much time to do shit
For example “meet potential man” is so simple but effective
Imagine being part of agenda piece
Guys
Do u think imuharald > rocks
Dead ass cringe fest
we still dont know why imu took so long to go back and take elbaf
This would have been great if Franky mentioned he went to his home town
He needed herald like king to manipulate
I'd say that's the natural conclusion
But technically he could domi reversi
Wdym I am confused 🤔
Probably cuz he needed harald to have that influential pull and straight up open their doors
With harald dead, he has to do it the old fashioned way
The answer to all of this is Oda is just one man getting on in age writing a massive story that is borderline impossible to keep track of when it comes to the nitty gritty details. Thus, mistakes happen.
I love onepiece the the mural was the most fun I have had almost ever with one piece
i guess imu was just that patient
betting on them making a new king
then groom that king into being a WG dog
then convert the country
Like when he met vegapunk talked about how he went to his island and stuff with him
Rewrite the sentence and replace mural with Ripley and it's me.
do you see gear 5 luffy turning other people into nika?
Wanji > Loro
Yea that’s the panel I was pulling from
It probably is just Imu feels rushed to accomplish the goals now due to unforeseen circumstances instead of just waiting patiently
This is a current theory. I hope it doesn't happen, but it's possible.
I just wish Franky talked to vegapunk about it or even mentioned I met that old guy
It's most likely will happen to parallel imu power. I hope I am wrong

The mural also speaks as if the third world is part of some prophecy and maybe Imu is aware of it and preparing? Though that makes you wonder why they didn't just prepare long ago.
He never met Vegapunk at punk hazard or really knew where his lab was
I do agree there was a lot Vegapunk missed in egghead with Franky
Gorosei and imu already knew about the upcoming great war right ?
which is the mural
Might have something to do with the promise
One thing I am really bitter about is oda shafting usopp observation haki skills?
3rd world part
Where the training?
Realistically with how beloved harald was, it was probably decently possible to convert the country into a war nation
Probably just never thought of anything as a threat until awakened nika came into the picture
i mean herald died already
Sorrry I gotta go thou it was fun talking with everyone @pulsar path definitely check out that Uranus theory video when you get chance
I will! For sure it's in my history so I can watch it a bit later!!
I mean like
Imu resorted to children kidnapping because the easier alternative was harald convincing the country to swap to war nation, since harald was so beloved
Man, maybe Imu really is just a NEET. They are not escaping any of the allegations at this point.
Like Imu does seem like a lazy bone
Won't do anything without a good body
someone post the Imu is a gamer image
sure but still took em multiple years to start kidnapping kids
did shamrock convince them to finally move?
Why does imu power get negated just by acoc? Shouldn't his power get negated just by haki?
"Yes I needed harald because my real body is actually Higuma tier"
Unless he is not df user
Would Imu be considered employed?
Maybe. Could be a timing thing.
Do we consider King Charles employed? This is a serious question, I have no idea.
Maybe it’s haki in general but acoc is stronger
I think Imu is a dream eater and because of that can some how take fruit powers and re distribute them
Fr, bro is just the world’s biggest procrastinator. Hes so relatable
It's advanced conqueror like gaban said
my point is just
it dint look like imus plan for elbaf was top priority for some reason
I think cuz he's been so patient until harald came along
Harald died he's like "fuck it. I guess I have to wait a bit longer"
Don't one of holy knight has the same power
Sengoku fans would finally have something to hype them
He’s not employed
and now they waited until pirate jesus luffy is in the island
plot convenience i guess
Yeah sorta but I'm talking like full on absorbing dream like power
By this logic, I'm considering Imu an unemployed bum because by constrast he doesn't do much of anything really, right?
Well yes
Cuz we won't have a story


Yeah I always find it weird they didn't go after Luffy sooner or some shit lol
In an alt timeline
Kidd is at elbaf
Cuz he was slowed down in traveling
And just barely escaped shanks
The most Imu has done is fight in Elbaf via a proxy. Which isn't nothing. Still unemployed.
There are reason tho
Omg its soo good
Maybe but i doubt it. I think imu is a straight up monster and one of the reason why df exist
Even rocks said to imu to not underestimate humanity
He doesnt deal with the day to day of the WG that’s the elders. He only performs ceremonial duties every once in a while and sometimes may direct the elders (like lulusia)
The curse of wisdom...
Imu basically not human
😔 😔
So yea he’s an unemployed bum
Why would this be pinned over the color spread that we got
these gorosei went out of their way to assassinate luffy in wano that failed
luffy finally in egghead and they dint straight up gang up on him
Yeah I'm not so sure Imu is human but I do think they need a human host
What will kidd do in the future?
He directs, but does he perform ceremonial duties? I guess once every 75 years a new God's Knight is chosen. Conclusion? Barely functioning unemployed bum propped up by tax dollars.
Hopefully he'll become relevant again
Yeah but other times I feel like they had better opportunities to eliminate him but also maybe it's safer to know where the Nika is rather than let it be reincarnated and taken by a unknown
imu was baited into focusing on the motherflame
ignored the highest threat nika
This confirms that shamrock and buggy are older btw 
my cope is imu dont find luffy that much of a threat atm
I have something to make kidd relevant again.
Just kill kidd entire crew and make him a broken man who want to go after shanks.
Imu give him power for that and he become holy knight
Imu is, and may god forgive me for saying this word, a pensioner
Like, what the hell is Imu's day-to-day? Someone give me a rundown, Charles Miner style.
Yea just having it and being able to control it would be end all of their problems
Would be best case scenario for his future character
RIIIIIIICH
But I doubt oda do it
This is kinda the consensus is they are kidna full of them selfs and don't take threats serious till it's too late?
imu is like
ive defeated joyboy back then
i can do it again now
Wake up, play with butterflies, sleep, repeat
Wow true didn't think of this
And rage when they don't get what they want. Is Imu a simpleton? Smoothbrained? Is the hamster wheel broken in their brain?
i paused my skyrim to be here
its generic villain overconfidence
Imu was shaking like orochi feeling joyboy haki lmao
Living for 800+ years will do that to you
“I paused my bird watching to be here”
That’s how Imu felt during god valley
Conclusion? Immortality is hell.
butterfly watching
do people still think imu was alive during the first world timeline?
Not even close to confirmed but it’s certainly possible
possibly if they were there for the First World. But that would mean Imu is something beyond Nerona Imu. Like a demon.
Space devil
Most likely scenario I think
I think is really likely
It's only possible if Nerona Imu is simply a vessel for whatever Imu truly is. Spirit, demon, etc.
Imu, the 800-year old virgin
Lets go new Frankycolafan banger dropped
i mean we do have the personality switch magic
First world introduction changed a lot of things
Cavendish?
I don't think Imu is a zoan but tbh maybe nerona awakens there fruit and Imu takes over
7am: Wake up and get ready for the day
7:30am: feed his favorite pet Gunko and make sure she goes outside
8am: play with butterflies
12pm: Lunch with Gunko
1pm: Back to the Butterflies
7pm: Eat Dinner with Gunko
8pm: Tuck Gunko into bed and kiss her on her blue haired forehead and say "Goodnight Lili"
10pm: Convene with the dark forces and plan out the future
11pm: Check Bounty Poster collection
11:30pm: Sleepy time
no laws df
Was df there in first world?
Was haki there in first world
What was first world like
probably not, probably, idk
im not even mentioning the advance tech they had back then
a lot of questions
This is a real possibility, since it's more or less confirmed via Ivankov the immortality surgery was performed on Imu.
Possibly first world just had powers or gods
Oh yeah the "Shanks got Imu Boost" allegations are over now LMAO
I feel like Haki could have been idk about DF tho
Seeing the lab in elbaf which existed for 3000 years
I do think zoans are beings turned into devil fruits
is this considering the moon people going down on earth?
Wild ass sentence lmfao
First world was technological advanced too
"good night Gunther"
Wait...what if thats really what Imu has her around for
😭
surely the moon people is 1st world stuff
"My name is Lili, its Gunko"
"Thats nice Lili, goodnight!"
I forgot about them. Idk if they brought the tech it's highly possible they created the ancient kingdom
But Gunko having blue hair cements the fact Imu is addicted to Lili who he seems to be pissed at for the poneglyphs. Love makes you do crazy things.
Imagine if Imu is a gamer in his free time. Like he has a PC in the room of flowers
It's weird how her hair gets longer when Imu controls her
And I will not let any of you forget it
Imu is the simpest simp to ever simp
this has been a very real theory ever since Gunko's hair color was revealed
Imagine if void century flashback will be it's own story with it's own extended multi chapters first world flashback
That would be crazy way to write the story of void century
oda might just combo first world and second world flashback
He puppets her to look even more like Lili. WTF Oda.
That’s why Imu is so strong. Gaban and Sanji were right there. Garp as well. The power of love, fist of love. Love is what makes haki bloom more than battle
This is a natural Sanji upscale btw.
I cant see Shuiesha or Toei approving of that.
He cant even make the WSJ cover without including Luffy somewhere
I think this is the best way, it will make the void century flashback stand out among others
Man, Imu's gonna be a fucking freak.
I cant wait
Void century movie so they can have an extended flashback fight. Calling it now
im betting on imus body dont look normal
The Ancient Kingdom flashback is gonna open up on Imu in a strip club.
Yea he should do something different for void century. It's monumental flashback literally building up from ch 1
hell we dont even know if the imu body we see is the real imu
what if its just another vessel

The only thing I can say as a anti theory to this is if Imu is also Neftari lol maybe Lili was there daughter or mother? Sister? But na I am in the camp that Imu was in love lmao
In a perfect world we would get the first canon movie with that but again I doubt Toei or Shuiesha would approve it without Luffy being the center of focus for the story
That would be a much nicer, not weird and sexual way to write Imu. Does Oda have it in him? Or will the G-slur inside of him come out?
you saw how imu stared at that painting
Oda should approve rocks flashback into a movie
I'm fully believe he's going to go.....full g word lmao
Oda isnt the issue its Shuiesha and Toei
this should be shanks and loki reunion
but instead they were fighting 😭
is imu looking at his love
or looking at herself
100% love.. I thought oda wouldn't dive into love story but seeing rocks flashback changed my opinion
Shanks haters are really starving for anything

"God, I was so hot back then"
Loki was crashing out so Shanks had to park him for a sec.
I think god valley could work if they put a huge focus on Roger for the movie
"this new body is the best one so far"
nothing will humble loki more than a one shot by shanks
I think whatever Imu is has Lili possessed.
Could be daughter ?
vale on face
Unless he took over her body at a late time
and voice changer for some reason
Oh yeah ig get what you mean
If he took over her body, that's lame imo
I mean Imu probably is more than one of something
When they talk it's like multiples speaking
Nobody want to see main villain looking like vivi
Imu Nerona could’ve been a Uta situation. Where the king is possessed by a higher demonic entity like the demon king

If we're being honest, not a single thing we've seen involving Imu has shown them in a normal, non-creepy light.
you could say
its almost alien
This is from Oda's desk.
This is why I think its Lili being possessed
Moon Piecebros, where you at?!
we could go with my cool theory
Imu was an Ai back then that took over the world
Yeah but we can't be totally certain what the AI upscale shows. The original is super blurry.
We going there EoS trust
Nah, no blue hair
Keep in mind that's ai upscaled
God king shanks was selling haki knots to useless Craptain mid (he scammed him and only poured a little bit to give him commoners haki)
So the ai just made that up
That’s the real reason why kid went after shanks
Yea yea yea
the main vilain being Ai would be very topical
people would love Oda doing Ai = bad plot
Yall not gon deny me my immortal pure evil waifu
Imu being in Oda's desk means he's hinting that Imu's face reveal is going to be Oda.
imu already erasing his notes (history)
Even from here it still looks the same to me as the upscaled image
Idc what you say I want my 900 year old baddie
You're not getting her
it's like a figure-ish. but what the details or sex is I can't really tell
Ink Ink fruit believers
Rise up
You're getting a 900 year old twink
We’ve seen members of the Manmayer, Figarlands, & Shepard Family. I wonder if there’s any Nerona family members in The Holy Land besides Imu at all
Thats more than enough
YESSSSSSS

Even better
If Imu looks human at all, he is gonna be a Twink
Probably bums
For some reason it looks like Shanks to me which might just be from the horrors that red haired man has put me through but that's what I see
I already bought in fam you can stop selling me
prob killed all of em
there could only be one
We’ve never had a twink primary antagonist. It would feel good to have that representation. We can be evil too.
Evil Shanks
imu is a femboy
ancient kingdom wasn't tolerant of femboys, joyboy and davy bullied him, but he was also very strong
very strong femboy
When Rocks called Imu the king of Rats. It made me think maybe Imu is a collective entity of all 20 kings into 1
Nero was like what, 30? When he died. And 16 when he became emperor. So Imu will physically be anything between that
Caesar
Like the one piece guy?
what if imu is actually a rat race
LETS FUCKING GOOOOO
No
Emperor Nero smh
Master Splinter ass mf
Shorororororo
Very specific
One piece fans don't know real history lol
Myf I had to troll a bit
I didnt know it got that deep
I take my homosexual subcategories very seriously
was emperor nero the psycho emperor
That’s just an elaborate way of saying twink
I was vastly under prepared for this sentence
No he’s between an otter and a fake bisexual
No, he was Vergil son's
There is no twink there
What does that last part mean man
😭😭
Crazyy
Pete Davidson types. Scummy greasy line cooks that still manage to make it work and be hot.
that looks so cool
Us one piece fans are getting the animation quality we deserve
I still hope we meet Emeth again i hope he doesnt get disassembled
Pete Davidson is hot?
I do feel bad for one punch man fans tho
that guy looks like a dealer
I hope Emet comes back riding on Zunesha to the song Ol Town Road
To every gorgeous woman I know yes
Bro has pulled some of the baddest bitches to ever exist
He's in the mural so yeah
Rich I wanna send that hands on shoulder gif so bad
Frfr
I dont think I understand straight people sometimes
emets gone bro
imu wont let him get away this time
Straight?
In 2025?
IMU is a bum ass
Bottoms also fall over themselves for those guys
put him on a black hoodie and knockoff doc martens and he's selling you oxy
We can’t clean their hands too much. I know some twinks who love some nasty lookin’ greasy ass skinny dudes 
Nah he got the fake percs laced with fent for sure
They gave me that shit for a surgery I had recently and I gotta say bro
you know whats weird
with all their advance tech back then
why a rope to store haki?
LMAOOOO
I mean maybe it's just because I have no attraction to men but even in like a hypothetical that I did I dont feel like I'd get it
Honestly I could see Imu looking like Emperor Palpatine with the long hooded robe & tall crown
but who knows
Murata siphons the animation out of the unborn OPM episodes to fuel his manga pages
That’ll probably do it yeah
"animation"
There’s women analogous to it as well for sure
2 years clean so I understand this more than you know
powerpoint transition
The manga has more frames than the anime
Netflix Original ahh animation
I'm not even kidding
There's pages and panels in the manga that convey motion better than the anime
Greasy ass failgirls who do opioids and post to Facebook still is the lady equivalent to line goblins @tranquil blade
failgirls
Gah damn this is facts
Bro they even did that lollipop censor 😭
And we loooooove our greasy failgirls don’t we folks we love our failgirls it’s true folks
Failgirls need love too, Cam
if boa was a man, do you think people would still consider her well written?
Amen Rich. Amen.
to Facebook? 
Hmm. With the same exact backstory?
The type of coworker that asks if you know anyone who has hydros on day one lmaoooo
yeah
“Or like bars or like whatever”
I can't believe people still use facebook
Nope
You’re starting to get it
I think the SA part of her past would still hit as hard if she were a man
Hydrocodone. It’s like qaludes, grandpa.
But an island of warrior men is kinda trash
So that would definitely impact her backstory for me
I know what those are, just never heard it as a shorthand before
We just call those islands
Exactly
Really? That was common shorthand when I was young still.
why is that trash lmao
You’re a good man, Buffy
Because every other island fits that damn description. It doesnt stand out as much as the Amazon's would imo
Umm I don’t think he’s hot so obviously not
My point stands
your mother's name ida?
She's not that good.
Wtf???
Merry Christmas Rokaya!!!!!!! 💜
Rokaya: If you wanna know what women want, talk to a woman!
Cam: That's brilliant! Where can I find one?
Jolly posting
Rokaya is a mouse
But every other bad bitch has a ting for Pete Davidson
Happy Birthday rokaya
Favorite Christmas movie
The nostalgia
Rush Hour
IN THE GRINCH, DAWG???
Is Rush Hour a Christmas Movie?
I'm not sleepy


Is home alone the best Christmas movie
Definitely up there

harry potter are better xmas movies
Lmaooo
?
The best Christmas movie is John Wick.
Ooooh dark horse
There's a reason but it requires spoilers
A Year Without Santa Claus is peak too
whats the reason
i can't say
I dont really care just elf isnt top 100
fuck da mods
Its ight
jk can you send in western-series?
One thing to note: the guy who directed Home Alone directed the Sorcerer's Stone, as well.
It’s top 1
I feel like most of them came out around that time of the year at least here where im at
I do really like the grinch and home alone
oh i see
The og animation and the Jim Carrey version always hit for me
Either one, well not the newer animated one
ohh
The best Christmas movie is the one we made along the way
but the old animated one of the live action are good
Its a wonderful life
This one is goated
How old are you
Nah im just surprised its usually so anti old in here
By the way the villains name is Mr. Potter in that one. Another HP reference. And it's a Christmas film. @wraith mantle The rabbit hole of Harry Potter=Christmas goes deeper than we know.
I like the movie White Christmas
Fine then my favourite Christmas movie is le voyage dans la lune
Even though Chevy Chase is an asshole the National Lampoon movies are funny to me but I wouldn't put them on my Top 50
Why would you go to the moon on christmas
Christmas Vacation
say the full thing
Because it’s made of cheese
National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
Loki should go on a Christmas Vacation
big cinema really want us to fw HP smh
To Drum Island
The Christmas Vacation movie is decent
PEAK
get this thing off my screen
I also like A Christmas Story
FUCKING PEAK
Delete
lmao we watched it one xmas
it was actually such a goated movie
Cousin Eddie had me crying
And stay there
might fuck around and rewatch
@cloud adder
Imagine Loki and Dr Kureha
The polar express is a classic
Oh shit my heart
Batman Returns is a solid Christmas movie
LMAOOOO
Oh I LOVED THAT MOVIE
The polar express is good but still looks kinda uncanny to me even now
i don't get the reference, i've not seen much of simpsons
It scared me because of Tom Hanks
ok how in the hell can you connect that to xmas
I didnt know that was tom hanks until much later
It's from one of the Treehouse of Horror (yearly Halloween episodes) where Bart learns he has a "evil" twin.
Also, watch the Simpsons.
oh
This meme still kills me
😭
watch the beginning
Is that Travis Scott on the right?
LMAOOOO
Close enough
damn
I never could get into holiday movies
FIND SOME SPIRIT
I mean they're fine but rarely good
saw the guy in black and white and it reminded you of his apology video lmao
Michelle Pfeiffer
My beloved
The best Christmas movie, if we're being honest, is a toss up between Home Alone, Nightmare Before Christmas, and a Muppet Christmas Carol.
Oooh crazy list
I do like Muppets
TRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
It has Michael Cain
get on klaus



