also-manga

[digital spear]

Can I be both

[tranquil blade]

Yes...

[trim lily]

yc isnt a knower...

[woeful moth]

HAHAHAHA

[tranquil blade]

You can theoretically also be both...

[digital spear]

Honestly I wasnt thinking, of course theres a difference lol

[vital heart]

hey guys

[digital spear]

Sorry people

[vital heart]

can i be hon est

[upbeat yarrow]

cavendish is both twink and femboy

[woeful moth]

they overlap but you can be just a femboy or just a twink

[trim lily]

can you

[mighty shell]

you can be hon in any timezone

[digital spear]

So if im a really buff femboy im not a twink

[vital heart]

this is the best and my 2nd favorite color spread in op ever.

[mighty shell]

it's missing someone

[digital spear]

STOP POSTING THIS I always think theres someone added

[tranquil blade]

Not me tho y'all stay safe

[mighty shell]

feels incomplete without him

[digital spear]

Just add someone atp

[vital heart]

zeff and hiruluk?

[digital spear]

Yes

[snow locust]

Correct

[vital heart]

zeff and hiruluk?

[upbeat yarrow]

its missing vinsmoke romeo

[digital spear]

I like how all the lurkers come out to help me with this

[woeful moth]

Ochoku

[trim lily]

its missing claw guy

[tranquil blade]

Honestly can I say it? Wang Zhi has aura in that color spread

[vital heart]

zeff and hiruluk?

[trim lily]

where is he

[vital heart]

no

where are zeff and hiruluk?

[woeful moth]

[tranquil blade]

Oda retconned him out of the manga

[snow locust]

I just opened discord lol this is the first convo I saw

[mighty shell]

the baratie and heaven respectively

[trim lily]

hatsune zhiku

[vital heart]

?????????????????????????????????/

[tranquil blade]

Fuck u

[mighty shell]

actually hiriluk could probably be in hell

[upbeat yarrow]

also gil bastar isnt there wtf

[mighty shell]

dunno

[vital heart]

oh are u talking about harald lol

[trim lily]

gil bastar was banished back to the one shot

[snow locust]

But for some reason Barbel is

[mighty shell]

no meek i'm referencing something from twenty minutes ago

[vital heart]

fuck

[snow locust]

Who never did anything

[vital heart]

you

[mighty shell]

don't worry about it

[vital heart]

?????????

?????????/

??????????

[trim lily]

barbell was an iconic original member

[tranquil blade]

Oda just forgot about gil bastar

[snow locust]

I like his design but what did he do lol

[digital spear]

chat cycle theory

[tranquil blade]

Claw guy was erased intentionally

[trim lily]

i mean you can say the same about don marlon

[tranquil blade]

I know this

[trim lily]

he got literally one line and died

[upbeat yarrow]

did barbell even have dialogue?

[dense rapids]

Who was the navigator of rocks pirates

[snow locust]

At least he died. Which is memorable

[tranquil blade]

2 lines

[woeful moth]

you can say the same about more than half of them

[trim lily]

barbell talked about splitting up shakky and exposited in hachinosu

[woeful moth]

its funny because there's like just 5 of them that did something

[upbeat yarrow]

what a player

[digital spear]

With Claw guy I get it Oda doesnt care for him, but why does he specificially bring back a 30 year old oneshot character for this but then doesnt really show him

He just triggers me with it

[trim lily]

for fun

i hope we get to see god from his other one shot next

[dense rapids]

And gives him perona fruit from no reason

[digital spear]

Oda KNOWS ME he knows this ragebaits SPECIFICALLY me

[snow locust]

Tell Murata we need him to draw another OP side story and it needs to be abt Barbell and Don Marlon

[tranquil blade]

Didnt even have Gil Bastar say a line or be given a textbox it looks like he's photobombing them in every panel he's present in

[maiden charm]

Chill bro 😎

[woeful moth]

there is a reason and its a funny reference

[digital spear]

NOOOOOOO

[woeful moth]

he's dead so it can perfectly be on other people

[trim lily]

wait i just noticed hes doing the blackbeard

goda foreshadowed it

[vital heart]

wdym

[digital spear]

It makes a lot of sense, read the oneshot

[vital heart]

whats the blackbeard

[dense rapids]

[vital heart]

OH

[dense rapids]

I know about the ghosts

[trim lily]

its just a fun nod to who the previous user was

[digital spear]

well yeah thats the reason

[dense haven]

yall liked the chapter?

[trim lily]

like why did john get kid's fruit or ganzui the explosion one

[digital spear]

I cant believe Perona didnt have her fruit 13 years before she was born

[dense rapids]

Moria knows how to take fruits like Blackbeard

[tranquil blade]

John having Kid's fruit is plot relevant but I cant explain why because the haters will sabotage me

[trim lily]

ill trust you

[dense rapids]

Kidd doesn’t like buggy
Buggy wants captain john treasure

[dense haven]

jonh having kids fruit and also getting one shot is some of the funniest shit

[woeful moth]

explains why he has special compass for his treasure... probably some magnetism explanation

[prisma idol]

Proof?

[digital spear]

Ganzui one seems random but I guess Oda wanted booger bomb back

[dense haven]

oda is such a silly goose

[prisma idol]

Proof?

[dense rapids]

Read the manga

[vital heart]

Shimon agrees witih you'

[prisma idol]

See this is how you show proof

[dense rapids]

I wonder when they encountered each other or if they even have before

[vital heart]

TCB\

TCB

[prisma idol]

They haven't, kid just thinks buggy till his spot doesn't a yonko and also is too bombastic/showy

[tawny panther]

it’ll be funny if while Buggy has the map to captain john treasure but only Kid can reach it due to his DF lol

[trim lily]

yeah i think kid is just annoyed at the existence of buggy

[prisma idol]

Ch 1156, so that meek doesn't get a big head i use the officials

[tawny panther]

idk why kid would be annoyed at that though since everybody who doesn’t know Buggy believes the rumors about him .. unless Kid met Buggy before and saw how he really was

[trim lily]

why did he make a coin sound effect

[dense rapids]

^

[tranquil blade]

Well he has a lot of metal on him pretty much constantly

[prisma idol]

Kid is a cash register

[digital spear]

Who says he knows how he really is

[hollow dove]

Anyone that watched the Sabaody broadcast during Marineford that isn’t drugged up on Buggy hype could see through the facade at how much of a fool Buggy truly is

[tranquil blade]

but maybe he just has money on the mind

[hollow dove]

Kid was one of those viewers, back on Sabaody

[prisma idol]

Kid actually wants to kiss buggy, and really love him

[digital spear]

is that why he hates Shanks

[tawny panther]

lmao but iirc Buggy never looked fraudulent on camera, it was always when it was turned away .

[prisma idol]

Yeah

Shanks stole buggy attention from Kidd

[trim lily]

wow

[tawny panther]

the marines saw Buggy in person at marineford and still believe the rumors about him lol

[dense rapids]

First IRL Streamer

[digital spear]

it doesnt matter, Kid is annoyed because Buggy became a Yonko, not because hes a fraud

from his pov some other person randomly became yonko

[tawny panther]

right that’s my point .. i’m saying i don’t think Kid knows about how Buggy really is so i don’t think he would be annoyed about that

[prisma idol]

And the reason Kidd really dislikes Buggy as a yonko is because he has the cross guild polycule and now Buggy's attention will never go to Kidd

[formal wagon]

egghead ends this month btw

just an fyi

[trim lily]

oh does saturn die next week

[tawny panther]

i think so

[prisma idol]

Congrats to everyone on being the first to read this original sentence

[trim lily]

egghead really did end in december...

[dense haven]

when elbaf end

[digital spear]

And the reason Kidd really dislikes Buggy as a yonko is because he has the cross guild polycule and now Buggy's attention will never go to Kidd

[tawny panther]

we get saturn death and see what people around the world are doing

[digital spear]

I STOLE your sentence

[prisma idol]

Tommie
Tomorrow

[barren token]

Hey everyone what did we all think of this chapter of one piece

[prisma idol]

Well mine was the original and yours is a cheap knockoff

[trim lily]

oda did say...

[prisma idol]

Mid

[barren token]

Fuuuck

[prisma idol]

No luffy and nami kissing

[trim lily]

this will be the big announcement at jump festa

[tawny panther]

it’s a nice set up chapter , and of course Oda has to get his Ace post death glaze in lol

[digital spear]

pls tell feeso to make a better chapter next time

[tawny panther]

lol it’s like Oda be trying to tell the fans “ hey Ace was really strong & had great potential !! he just fought the wrong people “ lol

we get it Oda but he’s dead now so it doesn’t change much lol

[prisma idol]

At Jump festa they will announce the next OP movie about Nami and her past and it will include at the end a Scene of Nami and luffy falling in love and kissing before getting a memory wipe so that it can happen in the epilouge

[tranquil blade]

Ace is like potential man or however the meme goes

[digital spear]

ive been telling you people ... post mortem buffs will push Ace to admiral level ...

youre not ready.......

[dense haven]

corpsescaling

[tawny panther]

lol by the next arc Oda will give Ace a post mortem admiral level feat

[hot cairn]

yep

[dense rapids]

Should’ve never went after the the goat’s son

[tawny panther]

im surprised Oda didn’t say Ace visited Elbaf when he was captain of spade pirates lol

[digital spear]

soon Lokis flashback will reach the point where he lost to Ace in a fight

[prisma idol]

But shanks had a daughter not a son

[hot cairn]

twas pretty good but I’m pissed Oda is blue balling us with the fruit reveal

hope it’s next chapter

[pulsar path]

So if shanks and buggy are ace older brothers, than that makes Luffy also buggy's lil brother

[dense rapids]

Last chapter of the year revealing ragnir and the legendary fruit would be perfect

[pulsar path]

Sabo too man these guys don't even know their own lineage

[tawny panther]

2 chapters ago theories : “ Harald recognizes Shanks cause he met Roger Pirates ! why did Oda skip that !! “

Oda this chapter : he knew him cause of the red hair pirates lol

[hot cairn]

well this is the last chapter of the year (officially)

[vital heart]

no, 1170 is coming out next week

[dense rapids]

Pulled up to save their brother

[trim lily]

i dont know why shanks being part of the red hairs would be a secret

[vital heart]

leaks are coming out early

[hot cairn]

not on Viz or Mangaplus, TCB might drop it tho

[trim lily]

you mean to tell me not a single knight or WG associated person has seen a bounty poster of shanks

[pulsar path]

Yeah where the d is shanks!

[hot cairn]

we’ll have to wait 2 weeks for 1171

[dense rapids]

Ngl as long as we get the fruit reveal next chapter I can wait

[barren token]

post death glaze
Gaban saying he doesn't care that Ace is rogers son his ass isnt gonna be pirate king

[hot cairn]

Oda keeps making the WG super incompetent lol

[digital spear]

And Roger is Luffys father

[hot cairn]

ngl same

[pulsar path]

I freaking love that whole moment of them showing up

[ocean totem]

None of the knights knowing it makes sense, but also no casually government associated person would be allowed within 100 miles of Shanks without a lot of permission

[pulsar path]

I would say half brother like half Roger half dragon or maybe dragon is Garp and really Roger love child

[ocean totem]

It's not like Shanks was just some higher up agent, dude was a second only to Imu and the Gorosei

[dense rapids]

Ace’s brothers

[lofty fern]

Nah, Oda gives Ace so much post-mortem hype, its ridiculous

[pulsar path]

So wait

[lofty fern]

Kind sad that Buggy had 0 reaction to Ace's death

[pulsar path]

I gotta reread ace meets shanks now

Shanks didn't know? Or he did?

Or he didn't know till Marine Ford

[trim lily]

my old theory was that they discovered shanks' existence by seeing his bounty poster but now im kinda confused on how he wouldve even gone to mariejois if they were completely unaware he was a pirate

[pulsar path]

But that kills the theory that ace was being brought the Nika and I don't like that 😭

[trim lily]

maybe the secret was that he was still heading the red hair pirates rather than that he was one

[digital spear]

The final ability of the mera mera will be the previous user reincarnating and showcasing god tier strength and acoc so Oda can still put Ace in top 10 eos

[lofty fern]

Hard to tell, Gaban never told Shanks Ace's name

We don't even know if Gaban knew

[hot cairn]

good, that theory should die

[pulsar path]

Yeah but you could make a really educated guess by knowing Garp knows anything about it

[vital heart]

Oda just dickriding Ace posthumously, exhibit #1000000

[tranquil blade]

Ace wouldnt be able to awaken that fruit anyways

[lofty fern]

How would that tell you ace's name?

[digital spear]

He WILL do it

The fruit will awaken HIM

[lofty fern]

Give him time

[pulsar path]

No it's beautiful because shanks respected Roger so much he wanted to make him king just like white beared but when shanks realizes he was trying to hard to create a destiny when luffys eats the fruit and becomes the true future and that's exactly why shanks saves him because he now understands !

[tranquil blade]

I guess I will wait for him to rise from the grave

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/york-one-piece-york-vegapunk-punk-06-yosuyosudraw-qazira-gif-211912794502877691

[ocean totem]

Yeh, he's still their captain there

[tawny panther]

reminded me of this meme

[lofty fern]

Don't tempt him

[tranquil blade]

You can tell it's an accurate meme because he's in hell

[hot cairn]

I’ll be honest Ill, I don’t like that

[ocean totem]

Shanks saved him because the alternative was Luffy dying lmao

[pulsar path]

Not his name but where he would be

[lofty fern]

Oh yeah, he could know he was at Dawn because of that

[pulsar path]

Right but that the future is more important than the past

[lofty fern]

But he might have not connected "Portgas D. Ace" with Roger's son until much later

[pulsar path]

True

I forget about that

[lofty fern]

Especially because of Ace's name change

[woeful moth]

yeah they'd think its Gol D. Ace too

[lofty fern]

And I don't think anyone knew Ace's mom's name

[ocean totem]

But the present though

with the dead kid

[wet condor]

Will Rouge ever become relevant outside of being Ace's mother?

[glacial bear]

They probably knew Rouge but not the Portgas part

[lofty fern]

Watch her be Lady Akagami's sister

[wet condor]

Will we actually get to see what she thinks? Did she know about the Will of D

Did Roger tell her? Surely he did yeah?

[wet condor]

This p standard in OP lol

[lofty fern]

I don't think they knew any of it. It's like Roger just started this new chapter in his life

[wet condor]

Or who can be surprised if they knew each other somehow

[ocean totem]

This fight will be interesting

'cause Shanks, at this point, is apparently weaker than Shamrock

[wet condor]

Loki and Harald clashing made me laugh

[lofty fern]

Hard to tell with Roger

[wet condor]

Like one of them has a fucking mallet and the other guy a sword

[ocean totem]

Which means Shamrock may actually be a significant problem later

[pulsar path]

Let me reiterate shanks made a bigger mistake because he was overly upset about Luffy possibly dying because he knows Luffy can be the thing Roger was waiting for. But he would have saved him regardless maybe not made the mistake of loosing his arm

[wet condor]

Loki, just break that shit lol

[sage temple]

Looks like Loki is going to be the main fighter here

[vital heart]

Source?

[vital heart]

Garling was delusional when he said that btw. He underestimates Shanks btw

[ocean totem]

If saving Luffy required him giving up his arm he was going to do it every time, Luffy being saved was the #1 priority

[wet condor]

Roger Pirates MO. Know something, tell nothing

[tawny panther]

is he really weaker though ? you think Garling knows how strong Shanks really is or Shanks showed them his full strength (i’m not denying it just curious if while shanks was undercover he revealed all of that)

[sage temple]

Wait maybe Gaban was so scared of Loki was because Loki beat Harald out of the mind control like Rocks but kept going or something n killed him

[sage temple]

Shanks hasn't shown much ability to bypass or hurt any Holy Knight so far

[lofty fern]

I wonder, since Shanks could have gotten all his info from Shamrock, it seems that the HKs only find out about the disobey clause if they in fact disobey. So could Shamrock have learned that he can't resist no matter where he is, because of experience?

[tawny panther]

he did 1 attack so far .. nobody in this chapter was even shown using CoC haki even though at least 3 people in the castle can (harald shanks gaban )

[ocean totem]

Nah, Shamrock being immortal was part of why he said it

[lofty fern]

Eh, I don't think Shanks is super strong right now

[woeful moth]

also that'd kill thei Ego of how is a surface dweller stronger than them... like Shanks' literally undercover and his MO is that being a surface dweller is shit

[lofty fern]

Well no one has really

[vital heart]

Immortality has no bearing on strength in battle. That's just a quirk

[ocean totem]

Or they were just told this too

[wet condor]

Shanks here isn't Yonko Shanks, yeah

[sage temple]

Loki is the most we've seen of anything like that

[tawny panther]

it’s not like shanks & gaban were goin all out in that attack lol

[pulsar path]

I just didn't know that small ass seaking was stronger than bb

[vital heart]

My friend. I want to say this to you in the most gentle way possible.

Shanks right now is stronger than Act 1 Luffy.

[ocean totem]

Sure it does, means your strength isn't going to run out before the other guys'

[sage temple]

Loki, admittedly killing Harald, eating the fruit and wielding Ragnir

[ocean totem]

And they get apparently a sizable power boost on top of immortality

[sage temple]

He's built up to be the main fighter against Harald right now

I don't see Gaban or Shanks doing that

[tawny panther]

it’s gonna be all 3, Oda not gonna sideline his golden boy Shanks lol

[ocean totem]

It was just bigger, it would've taken anyone's arm if they were more focused on doing what they're doing

[lofty fern]

It feels like something Imu would only tell you when you decide to be rebellious. You should be happy to serve the Great One

[ocean totem]

Barring the obvious folks

[sage temple]

Yeah I'm not saying he's sidelined

I'm saying he's just not doing as much as Loki because of how built up Loki's DF is as a counter to the Abyss

[pulsar path]

Couldn't he have just used coc faster and before regardless ?

[ocean totem]

Well the Gorosei seem to be the ones who explain it, maybe they give the guidelines when the deeper pact happens?

[lofty fern]

Also, meek. They call Imu "Lord Imu" in the chapter. Is TCB going with him being male finally?

[sage temple]

Loki himself says he can handle the Holy Knights because he's dealt with them before

[tawny panther]

we’ll see .. it’s Shanks & Oda so i’m not putting anything past that

[pulsar path]

Like obviously ik why it didn't happen but I feel like NOW it need some more context

[ocean totem]

Also I'm so glad we got confirmation that the Ope Ope has nothing to do with any of the Gorosei's longevity

[dense haven]

shanks wanted to get rid of his mark and he didn't need that arm anyway

[vital heart]

what? lord and great imu are used by both us and viz interchangeably

[woeful moth]

there's also a chance Imu comes to Elbaph right now and also control Shanks too right?

[dense haven]

shanks doesnt have the mark

[tawny panther]

Shanks being here fighting against harald changes a lot for how i thought this incident would go down cause we all know how Oda is when Shanks is involved

[ocean totem]

Apparently no, but Shanks was also panicking lol

[lofty fern]

Imu seems to be the one to do and explain level 2

[wraith mantle]

looks like shanks and gaban gonna help loki beat harald

shanks stealing other people's feats again

[vital heart]

i prefer great imu, but feeso wanted to go with lord imu. just based off of vibes basically. but viz has done the same

[sage temple]

Yeah sure we'll see but it's also narrative evidence supporting it so I believe it completely

[lofty fern]

Usually you guys say "great imu"

[sage temple]

Shanks here also recently got scarred by a fruitless Blackbeard

[vital heart]

the sentence doesnt sound as nice with the word great instead of lord

[woeful moth]

yeah Lord is overused... give him Great i prefer it

[tawny panther]

lol right , like go back to your crew !

[ocean totem]

Also true yeh, maybe it really is just they have to fuck around and find out

[dense haven]

lord is wrong because imu is a woman

[lofty fern]

You mean pre-TS? Sure

[dense rapids]

Blackbeard just stronger

[vital heart]

No the shanks we see right now in the castle is stronger than Act1 Luffy

[dense rapids]

Davy Blood

[lofty fern]

It's been a year...

[hot cairn]

wdym?

[woeful moth]

Act 1 of Elbaph or Act 1 of Wano?

[dense rapids]

Blackbeard beat shanks

Shanks beat Loki

Blackbeard beats Loki and shanks

[vital heart]

Wano my friend

[woeful moth]

SEE I GET HIM

[lofty fern]

BB is a disgrace to the Davy name

[dense rapids]

I agree

[ocean totem]

For the longest time people tried to push really hard that the Gorosei were given immortality through the Ope Ope's eternal youth operation

[vital heart]

HOLY SHIT

[lofty fern]

Eh, have yet to see it

[dense rapids]

I will retract this statement if Davy is evil like Bb

[tawny panther]

BB gonna be the only Davy able to fulfill Davys promise & he’s the only special one

[stone terrace]

Shanks becomes worth a billion 2 years later

[hot cairn]

ahh yeah that’s not true

I disagree with that

[vital heart]

Harald's mind was corrupted by the Deep Sea contract right? He turned evil.

What if - hundreds of years ago - the original gorosei...

WERE NICE PEOPLE???

Void Century Warcury, Venus, Saturn, etc... -- WERE ALL KIND PEOPLE.

[hot cairn]

but what in the chapters confirms it isnt true?

[vital heart]

@hot cairn @lofty fern @ocean totem thoughts?

[sage temple]

Yeah, leading on the assumption that Shanks got that much stronger

[dense rapids]

That’ll be Buggy

[ocean totem]

I just kind of assumed this would be the case

'cause we see them sweating over the things Imu has them do sometimes

[digital spear]

I mean at the time it seemed like the only option how someone becomes immortal and that was true just not with the fruit

[tawny panther]

I forgot you think Buggy is a Davy lol

[hot cairn]

I think you’re cooking

[vital heart]

Holy shit. When Imu gets defeated... the gorosei will have redemption arc in EoS.

OMG

[sage temple]

Warcury4Nakama

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-one-piece-one-piece-jack-mammoth-beasts-pirates-gif-27069576

[sage temple]

He's a teddy bear

[ocean totem]

No lol

[sage temple]

Warcury was Santa Claus in his past life

[digital spear]

Soooo true

[sage temple]

Warcury was a baby once

[digital spear]

Warcury did nothing wrong

[hot cairn]

I’ve never forgotten their reactions to calling in the buster call in the Ohara flashback

[vital heart]

Wb shamrock or shalria

[digital spear]

We saw Gunko break free too

[sage temple]

That man was someone's baby boy

[digital spear]

Shes mind controlled

[ocean totem]

It was, but back then we didn't even know that they were immortal either yet

[ocean totem]

Yep, and Saturn choosing to spare Bonney because she was a child

At least a couple of them will be nice guys, but Jupeter probably won't

[fallen meteor]

eos imu dies and all the CDs get really nice and apologetic and then we learn he was letting his void in the CD water so they all were influenced and thats how Oda solves the 'thousands of racist CDs EOS problem'

[dense rapids]

Saturn redemption gonna go crazy. He was being manipulated like Harald

[tawny panther]

lmao

[hot cairn]

Saturn is dead

[dense rapids]

A dead man can be redeemed

[digital spear]

I know but it was a theory that became true and the ope ope was just the means how that could be possible. Like I dont think it was important to people how they became immortal just that they are

[ocean totem]

I always thought they'd all be relatively weak old men, 'cause the whole point of the Celestial Dragons at first felt like they ruled out of entitlement and just duped the world into following

[lofty fern]

Brago was thinking that, but I don't think you get that corrupted unless you rebel. I think the Elders and other knights were just seduced by the promises of the power and avarice. They're more so themselves pretty much all the time and have various personalities. All of Imu's corrupted minions talk the same way. Harald currently has the same personality as DR Dorry and Broggy

[dense rapids]

Gunko and Harald aren’t the only ones being mind controlled imo

[digital spear]

Finally we can absolve the Gorosei

[tawny panther]

the others probably just do what Imu says since they’re trash CDs

[digital spear]

Redemption arc hype

[tawny panther]

so no need to control them

[lofty fern]

I will drop this series harder than a boulder over the grand canyon

[still mason]

[fallen meteor]

[sage temple]

Mars donated millions to charity in 3014 BC

[vital heart]

REAL QUESTION

We know what the SHALLOW SEA CONTRACT and the DEEP SEA CONTRACT do pretty well now in depth. We know their abilities such as abyss pentagrams, immortality, power boosts, ETC.

Why is the ABYSSAL CONTRACT still kept a mystery? Clearly, they're saved for the gorosei.

What are the additional powers gained from this contract? How do you get it? Besides turning into a Yokai, is there anything else?

Discuss.

@fallen meteor @lofty fern @digital spear @dense rapids

[dense rapids]

Soon

[ocean totem]

Now we know that the actual devil is at the top and is this monstrously powerful, immortal evil literally making contracts with peoples' lives and probably souls

[hot cairn]

ah you were one of the people that thought they wouldn’t be fighters? I always thought they were, this is a shonen after all

[dense rapids]

Nusjuro was kidnapped from Wano

[glacial bear]

Sommers was always a good guy deep down

[hot cairn]

old men strong

[ocean totem]

Although if this is the Gorosei after a power boost, they low key were pretty weak

[blazing depot]

I assume the abyssal covenant is five elders

[ocean totem]

This would work if the organization they were heading wasn't a bunch of horrific weaklings lol

[blazing depot]

I assume it comes with a demon beast form

[vital heart]

You dumbass didnt read my question PROPERLY

[fallen meteor]

uhhh they get a yokai demon monster form and even more power/regen
idk what else

[ocean totem]

That's why it made sense, they were the heads of weakling nobles

[vital heart]

What are the additional powers gained from this contract? How do you get it? Besides turning into a Yokai, is there anything else?

[lofty fern]

I assume it's the same but with more perks

[dense rapids]

Yokai form

[tawny panther]

that’s how i was feeling about the HKs when that contract stuff was reveled lol how weak were they before the power boost if even with it they aren’t that impressive

[vital heart]

LIKE WHAT

Besides Yokai

[blazing depot]

Telepathy

[dense rapids]

Eternal youth

[blazing depot]

Remember the elders could contact one another

[digital spear]

Yeah I think thats how you get the yokai forms. Discussed.

[vital heart]

Deep Sea gives you 3+ new abilities. Abyssal one must give you like 5+ new abilities

[lofty fern]

knights get that

[fallen meteor]

oh
maybe more of everything so far? idk if the age freeze would be there too

[blazing depot]

Whoops

[vital heart]

Oh

[lofty fern]

Oh yeah, the non-aging is a HUGE plus

[formal wagon]

😭 i didin't consider this

[vital heart]

• Yokai Form
• Eternal Youth / Age Freeze
• More power boost
• ???

[vital heart]

what else

[vital heart]

cuz why do you get more abilities from being a deep sea contract, than an abyssal contract

[hot cairn]

this flashback is never ending

[vital heart]

lol

[fallen meteor]

even better regen i guess

[lofty fern]

That's a lot

[vital heart]

no its not

you get more from deep sea contract

than from abyssal contract

??

[digital spear]

A chair (Mars only has deep sea)

[vital heart]

that doesnt make sense

[lofty fern]

You get to live basically forever, I think that by it self is huge

[fallen meteor]

they are not exclusive so you get all the other tiers before + the yokai thing and the other stuff
i assume the numbers part is important, even more power, regen etc

[vital heart]

hmm

ok

i wonder if theres more abilities tho

[fallen meteor]

you also get to view Imu's videos 3 days earlier, behind the scenes stuff and once a week livestream where they game with you

[glacial bear]

Also Happy Kiku Thursday everyone

[lofty fern]

quality over quantity
Its not about how many, it's about how powerful those bonuses are

[hot cairn]

tier 3 patron members

[vital heart]

Is it just me

OK

[dense rapids]

Who do you expect is also being mind controlled

[vital heart]

Bear with me

Bear with me

[ocean totem]

The deepest pact

[vital heart]

I'm about to say a crazy take.

[ocean totem]

is probably what lets Imu manifest through them

Monster form + full possession and power transfer

[digital spear]

Someone save meek from the bear

[frail kindle]

I think gunko for sure

meek

[vital heart]

WHAT

[fallen meteor]

lmao

[vital heart]

THATS NOT A SPOILER

[frail kindle]

meek

MEEK

you know better

[vital heart]

???

thats not a spoiler

[sage temple]

So is that a warn

?

Can we get to punishment

[digital spear]

You want one?

[dense haven]

punish socrates

[formal wagon]

yeah

[sage temple]

No I was watching that series

And it ruined it

[digital spear]

Thats a series?

[sage temple]

[blazing depot]

What series

[sage temple]

Uh

[digital spear]

The famous MCU series

[sage temple]

That one

Well I didn't get a chance to see it

[hot cairn]

this flashback is quite long

[ocean totem]

The last few episodes have been lacking imo

[sage temple]

I lowk didn't see what he posted

[digital spear]

https://tenor.com/view/three-glasses-gif-24249833

[ocean totem]

But that's a conversation for another place

[blazing depot]

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-have-any-idea-how-little-that-narrows-it-down-that-narrows-it-down-clear-now-its-clear-now-i-understand-now-gif-21256627

[olive sigil]

Marin I have bad news

[dense haven]

it wouldnt be long if oda didn't spend that much time glazing rocks

[grand flower]

My homeboy just cooked something insane

[olive sigil]

My computer crashed. I need 2 hours and then you’ll get your chapter

[sage temple]

I could see Oda glazing Loki as an extension of Rocks here

[olive sigil]

Sharon I feel a little bad for Harald after this chapter for the first time

[ocean totem]

AS HE SHOULD HAVE.

[grand flower]

Imu speaks with multiple voices

Voices come from being alive, according to Gan Fall

Haki senses voices

Haki makes things black

Imu is all black

Imu is an amalgamation of multiple souls

[hot cairn]

what show?

[hot cairn]

LOL

[pulsar path]

Or.....dreams

[ocean totem]

The MCU movies lmao

[ocean totem]

Only if the people Imu kills through the connection to them takes their soul

[hot cairn]

you’re not a fan of Harald?

[vital heart]

BTW - I have one more thing to say

[hot cairn]

ahh

[vital heart]

Please bear with me again

[grand flower]

Yeah, or maybe the souls in the underworld

[tough dust]

why in the hell will they put regnir next to him 😭

[ocean totem]

meek

Let me stop you right there

[sage temple]

Ragnir would literally kill them

[grand flower]

I don’t think they could take off him

[sage temple]

If they took it away

[digital spear]

^

[pulsar path]

It has a devil fruit and/or is alive so if they didn't it would free Loki or make mass destruction

[ocean totem]

It probably chose him

[sage temple]

Ragnir could highkey burn that place down if given the reason to by itself

[vital heart]

Long time ago - I made a theory. My theory was that Rocks is the man marked by flames. I think this chapter gives a slight nudge nudge if you know what I'm getting at. Check out the color spread. Nuff said.

[sage temple]

Oh shittt wait

This changes a lot

[hot cairn]

nobody but Loki can lift Ragnir

[tough igloo]

I need Oda to show how Loki almost escaped recently

[digital spear]

So glue. Harald is the man marked by flames

[tough igloo]

dont skip that

[ocean totem]

Probably makes itself way heavier if it doesn't like you

Or it'll be actually lore accurate for once

[pulsar path]

Would been cool if he had the Mera

[ocean totem]

And Loki's just that strong

[grand flower]

@ocean totem nah. I got one even better

[olive sigil]

I like the character but not the person. I don’t really feel bad, I feel his frustration though. He’s very human, his mistakes make him look interesting

[grand flower]

Imu is the product of the personality transplant surgery. They put the 20 kings into Lily’s body

[woeful moth]

watch G5 Luffy lift it and play with it and say "this isn't even that heavy"

[formal wagon]

what if there was a seven sided die

[grand flower]

“I am legion” type shit

[lofty fern]

I love this. Which one would you pay for?

[dense rapids]

Maybe there’s moments we see the Gorosei or knights falter and that’s a sign they’re being controlled?

[formal wagon]

and you rolled it with a six sided die

[hot cairn]

yeah now that we know it’s kinda sentient it might be something like that

[formal wagon]

just an idea

[sage temple]

Ragnir was probably pissed asf here

😭

[grand flower]

You gotta chill lol

[ocean totem]

Okay calm down lmao

[hot cairn]

yeah he’s a really intriguing character

[pulsar path]

Ermac

[scenic dirge]

Finally getting to see Loki at full power is gonna be so satisfying. Feel like the last time a characters legendary power was this consistently hyped up was like… Kaido? lol

[hot cairn]

LOL

[tough igloo]

yeah

[vital heart]

Shanks lol

[ocean totem]

Besides Xebec?

[sage temple]

Wdym I feel like it's sentient

[vital heart]

Yeah Kaido, BM too

[ocean totem]

Shanks really doesn't get it like that

[grand flower]

Nah, Imu got all the biblical demonology references going down

[scenic dirge]

Shanks power has been hyped up since chapter 1 what

[ocean totem]

He's like the least hyped Emperor tbh

but he's not a villain so naturally he would be

[sage temple]

Loki is the only legendary power user other than Luffy

[tough igloo]

Shanks haki got compared to joyboy .. he gets it unlike the others lol

[vital heart]

Unironically: Jack.

[grand flower]

It def is I meant how you empathizing with it just cause it’s Lokis

[hot cairn]

I’ve been waiting for so long, Oda better cook next chapter

[tough igloo]

Oda don’t even glaze the legends haki like he does shanks lol

[leaden rivet]

Shanks is more all action than hype

[ocean totem]

The kings didn't die, though. There's a decent chance at least one of the Gorosei is one of the originals too

[sage temple]

Oh alr I'm not trying to say Ragnir would one tap Gunko or smth

[scenic dirge]

Yeah but I think the difference was that Xebec was really only referenced a few times in total before his appearance in this flashback. Feel like every other chapter during Elbaf says something to hype up Loki lmao

[hot cairn]

mf has been hyping up Loki since October 2024

[leaden rivet]

Like shanks showing up is just guaranteed to change the powerscaling in some way

[ocean totem]

Why is every answer so bad come on now

[lofty fern]

Considering how much you love the word "legendary", you should be happy to see another "legendary" weapon in the chapter

[ocean totem]

You're not wrong Feels like Elbaf considers him legitimately the second coming of Kaido

[sage temple]

Yeah in fact I'm ecstatic to see another "legendary" mention this chapter

[tough igloo]

that’s why i’m curious to see what Oda does here since Shanks is involved in this Harald fight .. perfect chance for Oda to glaze him some more lol

[ocean totem]

Or second coming of Big Mom at least

[vital heart]

are you talking about the sword

[sage temple]

Loki and Luffy are the only legendary power users in the series

Oh yeah the sword is called legendary

I forgot

Thats sick

[ocean totem]

Yeh they are not

[sage temple]

Legendary DF power users in the series

Yes they are

[grand flower]

That’s right. They didn’t die. They live on as Mu

[sage temple]

The fruits themselves are named legendary

[vital heart]

Legendary sword was an interesting choice that TCB went with this chapter. I would've went with Famous Sword. but alas, out of my hands this week.

@sage temple @lofty fern

[sage temple]

Oh

[lofty fern]

Cause if all legendary things are as equal as you make them out to be, then Harald's sword alone is as strong as Luffy lol

[sage temple]

So it looks like Haralds sword isn't legendary

[hot cairn]

Oda really likes introducing new characters

[sage temple]

Huh

Interesting

[dense haven]

meek throwin shade at the other translator

[sage temple]

Comparing legendary apples to legendary oranges

🤦‍♂️

Loki and Luffy are the only ones with legendary devil fruits in the series

[lofty fern]

eh, they're all "legendary" 😆

[ocean totem]

They are not

[sage temple]

Who else

[ocean totem]

"Legendary" is relative, but Kaido, Yamato, Whitebeard, arguably Enel, obviously Imu, possibly Shamrock, Sengoku

[dense rapids]

Law’s fruit is greater

“Ultimate Devil Fruit”

Argue with Oda it’s the word he used

[vital heart]

Marco too

[sage temple]

I've never seen any of their fruits called legendary

Only mythical

And sure Law with ultimate and BB with evil

[tough igloo]

true i forgot Law fruit is called the “ Ultimate Devil Fruit “ which does put it in a class of its own cause ultimate is viewed above all else compared to legendary

[sage temple]

Imma need a panel

[dense rapids]

究極の悪魔の実

Translate meek please

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/daniel-craig-james-bond-foksrun-gif-18802120

[ocean totem]

Any big name deity fruit would be legendary

[tough igloo]

which makes sense with how broken Law fruit is lol

[sage temple]

You can't show me a fruit being called legendary though

[ocean totem]

like Yamato's was a guardian deity, and Kaido's made him worshipped as a god

[sage temple]

Yeah making it a mythical zoan

[woeful moth]

have they even called Human Human Fruit Model: Nika a legendary fruit? i know they call it the most ridiculous power... idk if someone ever called it legendary... it is a legend tho

[sage temple]

The fruit itself isn't called legendary

[sage temple]

Yes it is legend

Legendary is the status of being a legend

[stone terrace]

Who cares about these adjectives

[vital heart]

This word + Devil Fruit

[sage temple]

It's just the adjective form

[woeful moth]

then model Buddha is a legend, dragon are legends

[hot cairn]

Socrates does

[woeful moth]

etc etc

[sage temple]

Oda does

[stone terrace]

Can it fuck shit up yea nay or bollocks

[formal wagon]

legendary devil fruit powers by real ability and not silly narrator false hype: Alvida, Barto, Luffy, Akainu, Blackbeard, Marco, Zoro, Greenbull, Dragon, viola

[dense rapids]

Strongest devil fruit in OP

[sage temple]

Why else would Oda only use legendary with Loki and Luffy's Devil fruits out of the entire series

Coincidence?

I think not

[lofty fern]

Also, Elbaph seems to just call a lot of things "legendary". A legendary tree, a legendary warrior, a legendary fruit, a legendary sword. I think they just like that adjective

[sage temple]

I will only rest my legendary point case if someone shows me another fruit being called legendary in One Piece

[dense rapids]

It could mean they’re just the same fruit

[olive sigil]

String fruit is fun not the best fruit

[dense rapids]

[sage temple]

It could mean they're seperate

[olive sigil]

Their cows are legendairy

[vital heart]

the sword is objectively a diff word tho

[lofty fern]

https://tenor.com/view/boo-gif-19787475173016375

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/kisaru-caminando-gif-21645789

[subtle salmon]

Ragnir moving like mjolnir

[hot cairn]

also, they just call the fruit “legendary” once in chapter 1130, they mostly call it “forbidden”

[sage temple]

Apples and oranges

[lofty fern]

which of the legendarys are alike then?

[wraith mantle]

no sign of imu or the god knights showing up on the castle incident

[hot cairn]

like in this chapter

[wet condor]

What if it's all legendary though?

[hot cairn]

as expected

[wraith mantle]

looks like its just controlled harald, no domi reversi or possession

[lofty fern]

Not really, it's just showing that Elbaph just uses that adjective a lot.

[wraith mantle]

3v1

harald is goated, rocks level indeed

[lofty fern]

Possibly

[wet condor]

Elbaph does have a lot of world lore surrounding it lol

[sage temple]

True

But the devil fruit of Elbaph being legendary seems purposful considering how little Devil Fruits are even called legendary

[vital heart]

um idk

[lofty fern]

I just think a sword and shield world like this, probably would call a lot of things legendary

[sage temple]

Also I don't really think Elbaph is really that willy nilly with the word legendary

[hot cairn]

so he was talking about Harald here, interesting

[sage temple]

The only other time they speak about legendary stuff is with Nika

[dense rapids]

Ngl the word legendary has been used like a 100 times this arc

[sage temple]

That's their main religion

[wraith mantle]

true

[sage temple]

And it does kinda support the Elbaph Nika fruit claim although boring

[wraith mantle]

so loki was able to beat a god knight harald

[sage temple]

Yeah I mean with describing objects

[lofty fern]

They also just call their home legendary

[wraith mantle]

broggy's legendary arm

[dense rapids]

“I’m the legendary Sun god”

“This is legendary war land Elbaph”

[ocean totem]

I don't think the term "legendary" is supposed to mean anything except well known here

[woeful moth]

oldest kingdom with some of the oldest shit in history... all of it is some legendary shit

[sage temple]

Can I see a panel

[dense rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/lil-yachty-drake-laptop-duh-gif-8033838636860661307

[sage temple]

Well it sure is a bit interesting that no other Devil Fruit is called legendary

[ocean totem]

Not directly, but plenty are held in similar regard historically

[sage temple]

And swords are different from fruits

[ocean totem]

That's really the thing

[lofty fern]

I also think it's the only way Oda can keep the fruit's name hidden without telling us what it is and yet letting us know we're talking about the same one all the time

[sage temple]

So that isn't really something to pay much to

[vital heart]

Just shoot me examples and I'll tell you which japanese word is used in that case. The only 'legendary' i remember is when they called elbaf's devil fruit legendary. I don't remember any other cases.

@sage temple @lofty fern

[sage temple]

Especially since the topic is fruits

[sage temple]

Yeah I need to see some panels too

[tawny panther]

Ope Ope - Ultimate Devil Fruit

Yami Yami- Most Powerful/Most Dangerous DF (depends on which scan you read idk which one is more accurate )

Luffy & Loki DFs - Legendary DF

[sage temple]

I don't remember them saying Elbaph itself is legendary

[woeful moth]

all we know its probably a strong df that can possibly neutralize Harald now

[sage temple]

Yami is the most evil too

[sage temple]

Yeah and it's something Harald needed to unify the giants and turn them into an evil army

This was his larger goal I believe

[honest garden]

Gura gura was also said to be able to destroy the world

[sage temple]

So I'm just inferring that

[wraith mantle]

maybe the df has mind control abilities

[tawny panther]

i only saw the anime say most evil .. i’ve seen the manga scans say most powerful & most dangerous so idk which out of the 3 is right /more accurate

[wraith mantle]

i am starting to think its not a zoan

[vital heart]

gimme ch num

[tawny panther]

441

[sage temple]

The Nika fruit too

I think that's more about Nika itself

[ocean totem]

I don't think the Nika fruit was said to do that

[sage temple]

And also what's interesting to me is when Gunko is talking about world agenda, when she says "whoever the giants side with will be able to determine the world's fate" it cuts to Loki

[pulsar path]

I love how they don't miss at all with the coloring like they do everything nothing is ever left out

[honest garden]

I like the gag of Jarul having a sword embedded in his skull but how cool would it have been if he died here

[sage temple]

Oh I must be thinking about Nika itself then

Also I want to wait for officials about the sword thing since Meek said it could be interchangable

[woeful moth]

Magma Magma - Highest Offensive power or something likethat

[vital heart]

This is the word described. "Within the history of all devil fruits, this is the most [x] power" is how i'd translate it. Substitute [x] from the image I posted.

[honest garden]

I thought it was that Nika could either destroy or save the world

[wraith mantle]

this throwaway line about some random legendary sword is gonna do a lot of damage

[sage temple]

I remember an entire group of DFs being called the most destructive

[hot cairn]

Oda aint killing the oldest man in the world he doesn’t have the balls

[honest garden]

It's probably just a graded sword no?

[wraith mantle]

probably yeah, poor tashigi

[honest garden]

A bird will perch on it one day and it'll finally slice his breathing center

[tawny panther]

yep his vivre card said it’s in the highest tier of offensive AP

[vital heart]

@honest garden

[sage temple]

Yeah that

[hot cairn]

Usopp hit it while drunk and Jarul was okay LOL

[sage temple]

So it could easily just not actually be legendary

[lofty fern]

Every reaction I've seen has been stuck at this one thing 🤣
It took more of the conversation than anything else in the chapter
This all powerful helmet

[sage temple]

I'll wait for officials before saying Harald's sword is legendary anyways

And I'm still waiting for other instances of the word used legendary in Elbaph

[vital heart]

Are you blind?

[honest garden]

If only bro had the same helmet

[sage temple]

Are these officials?

Mb

[lofty fern]

You might call it a legendary helmet 😏

[woeful moth]

Legendary is literally just means it has history and possibly strong...

[sage temple]

Wait these aren't officials

[sage temple]

Wdym

[lofty fern]

I think the giants just need a better thesaurus

[sage temple]

[woeful moth]

it has legends written of it and some shit... we will see next chapter anyway

[formal wagon]

hot take: [fire breathing dragon gif]

[tawny panther]

Fiendish is a interesting one since that can mean “devilish” & Teach saying it can absorb the Devil’s power

[woeful moth]

in the famous words of Kaido: "DRAGON!!"

[dense rapids]

Imu Killer

[lofty fern]

Oh, I just found this. Which is hilarious

[sage temple]

I wonder if Ragnir has the Shiki fruit

[tawny panther]

Shiki was dead back then lol ?

is he even dead now

[pulsar path]

If we see someone with his fruit yes

If not idk ....

He's just in limbo piece with enel

[woeful moth]

he's not confirmed dead...

[sage temple]

No we don't know if he's dead

[wet condor]

So far, inanimate objects consuming fruits has only happened with Zoans. I'd be doubtful that it's Shiki's considering his fruit is a paramythia

[woeful moth]

the last time in the timeline shown of shiki is that he's pretty much alive

[sage temple]

It's just because we haven't seen him recently

[ruby moat]

Socrates

[sage temple]

Yeah this is just to the Shiki isn't coming back theories

[ruby moat]

https://tenor.com/view/aiws-aiwscloud-goat-agentia-ia-gif-9527744392332076987

[tawny panther]

if only Shiki knew who was standing right behind him .. would’ve been a funny. reaction to see from him lol

[ruby moat]

What if Loki does this with ragnir

What’s ur reaction

[sage temple]

I'd learn how to do it too

[somber rivet]

So...did the Gorosei are just mental washing like Harald or What?

[ruby moat]

Learn it rn so u can be ready

[tawny panther]

i think Harald only got that treatment cause he tried to go against the orders

[elder tide]

Real

[wet condor]

Same

[elder tide]

What y’all think the one piece is

[wet condor]

Those other fellas are willingly serve Imu

They're Gorosei because they're true believers

[tawny panther]

gorosei & HKs likely just follow the orders the first time without talking back so they never have to experience that lol

[wet condor]

Yeah

[somber rivet]

Yeah, better that way

I want real baddies in this story

[wet condor]

Imu probably never has to do that really

[woeful moth]

funny how Jarul sword on the head is more plausible than what Shiki has

[tawny panther]

yeah the CDs still trash people lol Harald was just a outsider who tried to join them and won’t with it

[woeful moth]

tf you mean a steering wheel is stuck on his head?

[leaden rivet]

Gunko becomes more innocent every chapter

[wet condor]

Gunko's the only person I think as of right now who's will and thoughts are being influenced, as well as he memories being suppressed

[tawny panther]

yeah Gunko situation seems to be the worst

[dense haven]

still not as innocent as rocks

[somber rivet]

Shame

[leaden rivet]

We are on our way to absolving her of all her crimes

[somber rivet]

She looks better as a bad girl

[tawny panther]

Gunko seems brainwashed/mind controlled 24/7

unlike harald who just experienced it for a day lol

[woeful moth]

Imu won't let another blue haired woman escape him

[wet condor]

Looks like lol

[tawny panther]

Harald was really a HK for like a day then died lol has anyone else in the story ever had a shorter time with a group than that lol

Shanks was with the CDs longer than that

Teach was a warlord longer than that lol

[dense rapids]

Scooper Gaban doesn’t know about Imu

Imu didn’t know the power of Elbaph

Are we missing something from the VC? Why don’t they know anything

[somber rivet]

Ace was a freeman for like ten minutes before dying

Not the same, but hey

ironic.

[vague pollen]

That scene was tragic cause it almost looked like as if he reverted back to his young violent self again

[sage temple]

Harald looked tuff as a mind-controlled version though

He looked like an extreme version of the man Rocks wanted him to be

Just on the wrong side

[vague pollen]

Well except serving Imu was the last thing Rocks wanted for Harald

[grand flower]

@ashen perch @hot cairn @stone tulip

Those burdened with expectations often fail to reach the top.

Luffy WILL reach the top.

Luffy won't be burdened by expectation

Being Joy Boy won't dictate Luffy's final opponent

[vague pollen]

Yeah

[somber rivet]

WAit, maybe Killingham is also under control of this evil malefic Demon. A hot guy like him can´t be evil.

That´s for bums like Sommers

[leaden rivet]

I was hoping they’d wrap this specific business up this chapter

[tawny panther]

first chapter out of the flashback oda reveals killingham is the worst one lol

[leaden rivet]

I dread long flashbacks

[tawny panther]

starts throwing slurs around elbaf

[sage temple]

I'm glad Oda used this one on a good character

I hated the Yamato one

[honest garden]

I think we're almost there, just need to see Loki's fruit

[sage temple]

Or Oden

[honest garden]

Yamato's one wasn't that long right?

[leaden rivet]

And Loki getting rejected

And Loki getting sonned by shanks

[sage temple]

That one was the longest and Loki broke that record

[glacial bear]

I honestly think we won’t even touch the subject of Loki & Lola

[sage temple]

Yeah

[honest garden]

No fucking way lol

[sage temple]

Yeah I'm pretty sure

[leaden rivet]

Whatever honestly don’t care

Let’s wrap this up

[sage temple]

I lowk hope for the sake of yall the flashback ends

[glacial bear]

It’s not relevant anyways at this point tbh

[dense rapids]

With how Gaban and Shanks spoke about Ace

I won’t be surprised if the flashback continues and we see Loki adventures as well as shanks going to the east blue

[sage temple]

I swear there's more chapters

I remember that being said

[honest garden]

Probably, I dunno when this graphic was made

[sage temple]

By some dude

[keen quiver]

Yeah this seems outdated ngl

[honest garden]

2 months ago

[glacial bear]

Ace made it to Elbaph & befriended Colon. That’s how we see him in the flashback lol

[keen quiver]

💀

[vital heart]

my furendo, what is the difference btwn the top and bottom graph 😭

my

tomodachi

XD

🤣

😂

yare yare

[honest garden]

Ok bro

[dense rapids]

Also are we getting a Cover Story next chapter

[vital heart]

no

[barren token]

Hope not

[vital heart]

next cover story is prob in like 20-30 chs my furendo

[somber rivet]

Oda really regrets killing Ace if he still puts him in every important story plot.

[barren token]

Top is in pages bottom is in days :)

[vital heart]

Viz:

next cover story is prob in like 20-30 chs my fulendo

[vital heart]

ohOH

[sage temple]

I don't think that's right

[dense haven]

damn oden flashback was a longboi

[glacial bear]

Mhm. Honestly I miss Ace too but it’s whatever. His story is done at this point. But it does seem like Oda likes to upscale him a lil bit like defeating a warlord, clashing with Yamato, etc

[dense rapids]

Random thing

But there’s a red nose clown where Ida was located

What if Buggy is actually from the Bunt Kingdom 😭

[vital heart]

This cant be accurate lol. It's been longer than 112 days. when was this graph made my furendo>?

[honest garden]

2 months ago

[vital heart]

oh.

[honest garden]

Stole it from reddit.com

[sage temple]

Oden 960-974 (14.5 chapters)
Loki 1153-1169 (17 chapters)

[honest garden]

To be fair, it's Loki + God Valley/Rocks + Harald

[sage temple]

Yeah

[vital heart]

• Shanks soon lmao. We're gonna see Loki's adventures after this incident is over then we'll see Shanks vs Loki... THEN go to the present

We got so much more content

[somber rivet]

The God Valley flashback will take like 50 chapters...

[honest garden]

3 more chapters at MOST

[dense rapids]

I think this as well

[vital heart]

?

[somber rivet]

Sorry.

[vital heart]

Can I give yall the sad and real truth?

[barren token]

Buggy fan seeing a circus for the first time:

[somber rivet]

Void Century

[vital heart]

Bear with me now

Get ready to bear with me

The Void Century flashback will be 50+ chapters.

[vital heart]

This is because the VC flashback will feature the 1st world flashback within it, as well.

[somber rivet]

That´s like more than...that´s like 2 years!

[vital heart]

This is because the VC flashback will feature the 1st world flashback within it, as well.

[grand flower]

The irony. He ended up just like Rocks did after he abandoned Rocks

[honest garden]

We're not getting a void century flashback

[vital heart]

💀

[somber rivet]

God protect us

[vital heart]

ur lucky u a mod rn

[somber rivet]

At least Ida is already dead

Imagine if Harald killer her

[barren token]

Void century will be told to us entirely within 2 pages via robin monologue

[tawny panther]

can’t wait for the panel in the next couple chapters with Harald thinking back to Rocks telling him about what the WG will do to Elbaf and Harald saying Rocks was right all along lol

[somber rivet]

People will be so mad that it will be funny at the same time

Or who knows. Maybe Oda will make a Cover Story

[grand flower]

Harald was cold this chapter im ngl

[thick mango]

I like lore but I also dunno if I want extended void century. Yeah it's the inciting incident of the world but any of the characters other than imu aren't gonna be especially relevant to the present. I do think there needs to be one but it should be short imo

[sage temple]

Loving this Loki fanart boom

[barren token]

9 chapter vc flashback I've seen this

[tawny panther]

Shanks using Divine Departure on a Harald who’s being control by a devil/demon

[vital heart]

Nah its gonna be 50 chapters

I hope so

Do you realize how much content is in 100 years?

This flashback took place over 95 years

Not even a century worth of time

A void century is even longer

Plus first world too

[somber rivet]

Like 5 years longer tho

[vital heart]

Thats not the point

[somber rivet]

Is a fun point

[grand flower]

NIGGA THIS SHIT IS COLD

[sonic herald]

any one now how to put a pickter or gif in chat with out it being a link

[grand flower]

I really wish Harald wasn't immortal and was doing this off the muscle

[tawny panther]

5 yr old Big Mom one shotting Jarul equal

Jarul surviving Imu amped Harald ..

LINLIN UPSCALE 😂🫡

[grand flower]

TBVH

YOU NOT WRONG RN

[dense pike]

hmmmm Kyō lookin kinda… familiar…

[grand flower]

https://tenor.com/view/and-i-oop-jasmine-masters-whoa-gif-14100703

[dense rapids]

And it does nothing

[tawny panther]

eventually all 3 will start landing meaningful attacks on Harald

[deep chasm]

was that divine departure?

[dense pike]

you see it too dontcha

[steel stirrup]

Holy shit

I do

[deep chasm]

yea no thats just a normal sword slash lol

[glacial bear]

I think you need to reach level 10 on here to be able to post a gif

Either that or a certain number of words, idk

[dense pike]

Another Rocks and Buggy connection

[steel stirrup]

Goddammit

I cant escape ts

[dense pike]

Daz Kyō

[sage temple]

"Take the throne Loki"

Throne is a bit vague

[stone terrace]

How

[dense pike]

ohhh true

[stone terrace]

Oh

Youre sick

[sage temple]

Could be foreshadowing

[grand flower]

harald doing the nika dance

[sage temple]

A little play of words if you will

[dense pike]

sick in the head or sick with it?

[stone terrace]

In the head

[sage temple]

With it

[steel stirrup]

If you can't beat em join em

Tell Buggy he wins

[grand flower]

@ashen perch @stone tulip @hot cairn

[steel stirrup]

There were so many better ways you could have expressed that but ok

[sweet kettle]

a 5 yr old big mom gets you hard?

[sage temple]

Idk about surviving being a feat

[harsh mason]

LOL

[lofty fern]

Is he his son?

[thick mango]

I don't think that's actually good. I think oda should pick and choose the most interesting developments. 50 chapters of completely different characters at the end of a story is not actually a positive thing imo

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/sips-tea-gif-10558867

[thick mango]

I just so fundamentally disagree with the fairly common take on here that more content is automatically more good

[steel stirrup]

I wasn't gonna say anything but wtf

[dense pike]

Theres a strong possibility

but nothing concrete other than resemblence

[steel stirrup]

Except their jaws

[sage temple]

We must mind the verbage

[sonic herald]

speciale technique 4 sword style

[harsh mason]

There’s no coming back from this is there?

[steel stirrup]

You're definitely not making it any better

[sage temple]

Comma between the hard and the me

Helps a little

[cosmic hamlet]

[steel stirrup]

😭

Where tf could a comma help

[sonic herald]

[cosmic hamlet]

Between this and is

[harsh mason]

Nah that’ll do

[honest garden]

Lets just move on

[sage temple]

Can't wait to see how Loki causes this

[hot cairn]

50/50 on who could be the final opponent but Luffy vs Imu is happening and Luffy WILL defeat Imu

[steel stirrup]

Yea its gotta be him now right?

[cosmic hamlet]

Oh wait you guys are talking about some other message which is deleted nevermind

[hot cairn]

LMAOOO

[harsh mason]

Like she killed jorul as a kid and then rocks trying to recruit harald. Come on bruu you got big mom already no need

[grand flower]

naw

[cosmic hamlet]

This is from blackbeard

[sage temple]

Yeah, nobody else in that castle has more potential to cause it than Loki

[hot cairn]

yuh

[grand flower]

that's dragon's ass

[sage temple]

Mhm

[steel stirrup]

So its looking like a Zoan

[sage temple]

Interesting

[sage temple]

Yeah

[hot cairn]

nu uh

[steel stirrup]

Mythical, even.

[sage temple]

Yeah almost definitely mythical

The hammer having a zoan is pretty unlikely

[steel stirrup]

Poor Logias

[cosmic hamlet]

If its a zoan then its mythical 100%, no other possibility

[tawny panther]

that man still walking , conscious , talking perfectly fine after a attack like that

5 yr old Big Mom slammed his equal one time and bro was dead immediately 😂

[steel stirrup]

Yea this late stage and to be able to beat an Imu Level 2 buffed Harald, it seems locked in atp.

[dense haven]

child bm is harold level

[hot cairn]

are u trolling or are you fr

[tawny panther]

*Imu amped Harald lol

[cosmic hamlet]

The fruit is probably after another legendary figure like nika

[grand flower]

Gaban and Shanks got to the castle quick

[steel stirrup]

True

[sage temple]

Yeah he didn't use any Haki

He's just lucky the helmet saved him

[tawny panther]

neither did big mom lmao bro is literally amped by Imu

[cosmic hamlet]

Child bm + hunger* is harald level

[tawny panther]

that’s a huge power boost and jarul survived

[sage temple]

I mean him living is based off of luck

Not his power

[cosmic hamlet]

Because shanks has both arms he can run faster

[sage temple]

Jarul got hit once by Harald and couldn't get up

[sweet kettle]

blackbeard pulled up

[tawny panther]

dying immediately > can’t get back up in that moment. but eventually does and is fine afterwards

[sage temple]

That's basically a 1 shot he was at 100% too

[sage temple]

He would've died he was just lucky that he survived

Literally being hit anywhere else

[cosmic hamlet]

I mean, a sword straight into a head is one shot for anyone

[sage temple]

Yeah how is this a power buff

This is a durability thing if anything

[sweet kettle]

nah id survive

[tawny panther]

it’s really just Linlin upscale knowing that the man she one shot was equal to jarul and she was only 5 yrs old

[steel stirrup]

A point blank range toss into the cranium is wild

[sage temple]

This isn't really an upscale

If I die from otama punching me

[tawny panther]

the same jarul who was able to hold down Imu amped Harald with Loki and survive a deadly blow from him

[sage temple]

If I die from otama punching me, me dying from an ACOC slash doesn't buff Otama